Latest / I Do, Part 2 / Love Island Love Lessons: Why Won’t You Believe In Love #brinity #toogoodtobetrue
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Saturday, June twenty seventh, and we
- 0:04Speaker 1: are watching a love story unfold right before our eyes.
- 0:10Speaker 1: It is the story of the season of Love Island.
- 0:14Speaker 1: They already even have their own nickname, Grinity. So why
- 0:20Speaker 1: is it some people, plenty, some loud voices are calling
- 0:24Speaker 1: bs on their love story with that welcome to this
- 0:28Speaker 1: Love Island love lesson edition of Amy and TJ. I
- 0:32Speaker 1: did not know there were this many voices and this
- 0:36Speaker 1: many loud ones saying that the story of the season
- 0:39Speaker 1: for me ain't real.
- 0:41Speaker 2: I'm shocked.
- 0:42Speaker 3: To be honest, I get it. Reality TV isn't reality.
- 0:46Speaker 3: I understand the healthy skepticism we should all perhaps view
- 0:51Speaker 3: these types of shows through it's a healthy lens. But
- 0:56Speaker 3: I am Call me a sucker, call me naive, call
- 1:00Speaker 3: me somebody.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Who just loves love.
- 1:02Speaker 3: But I believe in the real feelings being shared between
- 1:07Speaker 3: Bryce and Trinity.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Okay, how can we not? What signs? What signs do
- 1:11Speaker 1: we have that it's not true? And the only one
- 1:13Speaker 1: I'm seeing robes is that it's too good to be true.
- 1:18Speaker 3: That's exactly what folks are saying, that they don't believe
- 1:21Speaker 3: that they each could be crying separate from one another,
- 1:25Speaker 3: pining away from one another.
- 1:27Speaker 2: No one's ever seen.
- 1:28Speaker 3: They claim a man, a male contestant on Love Island
- 1:33Speaker 3: literally pout and be depressed and.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Cry during Casa amore.
- 1:37Speaker 3: That is the opposite of what has happened typically with
- 1:41Speaker 3: almost every other man, regardless of the relationship they're in.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Okay, so it's just unbelievable, is what some are saying.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Now you can add to that a little bit, and
- 1:50Speaker 1: that the suggestion we see him cry, but it was
- 1:53Speaker 1: the fact that both of them were crying separately, robes.
- 1:55Speaker 1: That's not just a suggestion. This is unlikely or performative
- 1:59Speaker 1: but planned.
- 2:00Speaker 3: Yes, there is a suggestion by a whole group of
- 2:03Speaker 3: people online who believe this is all they're playing us,
- 2:06Speaker 3: that Bryce is pretending to win, that there's no way
- 2:11Speaker 3: that they have this deep of a feeling for one another,
- 2:14Speaker 3: and that this is all put on to win the
- 2:16Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars. So people are very skeptical that
- 2:20Speaker 3: Brinity is for real because they just won't believe that
- 2:25Speaker 3: true love can happen on television that quickly.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Okay, so can I ask, though this isn't the biggest
- 2:32Speaker 1: point of us talking here, but what if they are
- 2:35Speaker 1: playing us, if they are playing a game so they
- 2:37Speaker 1: can win that money and get out of there and
- 2:39Speaker 1: get the biggest endorsements in all this, Is there anything
- 2:41Speaker 1: wrong with that?
- 2:42Speaker 3: It is a game, Yes, But I do think to
- 2:44Speaker 3: fake how you feel and to misrepresent how you feel
- 2:47Speaker 3: to win money is not something that is admirable or
- 2:52Speaker 3: likable or in any way encouraged in the show. Now,
- 2:56Speaker 3: we love the show because we like its authenticity, even
- 2:59Speaker 3: when it's ugly, even when it's messy, even when it's
- 3:02Speaker 3: a dramatic. And some people would say especially when it's
- 3:05Speaker 3: all of those things, but I would say especially when
- 3:07Speaker 3: it's when you find love, when someone finds a connection. Look,
- 3:10Speaker 3: people are comparing them to last season's Nick and Landria,
- 3:14Speaker 3: and their people doubt their love.
- 3:16Speaker 2: You want to know why.
- 3:17Speaker 3: A Maybe because it's inter racial and a lot of
- 3:19Speaker 3: people have talked about how that could be. There's a
- 3:21Speaker 3: level of skepticism that uh that two people from different
- 3:25Speaker 3: races black white could actually fall in love with one another,
- 3:28Speaker 3: which is sad that that is still a conversation.
- 3:30Speaker 2: And number two, that they were.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Such good friends first, both Nick and Orlandria and Bryce
- 3:39Speaker 3: and Trinity it.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Was a slow burn. It wasn't some immediate fireworks. It
- 3:43Speaker 2: wasn't lust at first.
- 3:45Speaker 3: Sight, it was hmm, this is interesting, and then they
- 3:48Speaker 3: built it. And I think that's why they actually have
- 3:51Speaker 3: such deep feelings for one another that seem very genuine.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Okay, so what we are what they're teaching us at
- 3:59Speaker 1: this point is are they teaching us something? Are we
- 4:02Speaker 1: learning something here about ourselves as the audience? It's I
- 4:06Speaker 1: think both are people reacting in this way and we're
- 4:10Speaker 1: not saying it's the overwhelming attitude out there, but it is.
- 4:15Speaker 1: There's more of a drumbead than I thought robes. Are
- 4:21Speaker 1: they showing us just how what unhappy we are? How
- 4:27Speaker 1: are they showing us how disappointed we are in our
- 4:30Speaker 1: own lives, our own relationships, how our own relationships have gone.
- 4:34Speaker 1: That we see something happening in front of us, and
- 4:36Speaker 1: we refuse to believe it. We just don't think it's possible.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Sadly, I think there is a large portion of this
- 4:43Speaker 3: country and I have been there. I know I believe
- 4:46Speaker 3: you've been there too, where yes, you're unhappy, it's not
- 4:49Speaker 3: that you're rooting for anyone else to be unhappy or
- 4:52Speaker 3: as miserable as you might be, but you need to
- 4:54Speaker 3: believe that this kind of display isn't real, that it's
- 4:59Speaker 3: fake and it's a put on, because no one could
- 5:01Speaker 3: actually feel that way.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Number one.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Number two, you also just want to believe Okay, fine,
- 5:06Speaker 3: that's now, but wait till they get outside the villa.
- 5:08Speaker 3: People love to say they won't last more than one week,
- 5:12Speaker 3: you know that, because we need to believe that. I
- 5:15Speaker 3: think sometimes to justify or at least to not feel
- 5:18Speaker 3: as bad about our own situations or our own relationships.
- 5:21Speaker 3: So I think there are those people who just choose
- 5:24Speaker 3: to not believe it because to believe it would be
- 5:26Speaker 3: too painful to recognize where our own relationships are.
- 5:30Speaker 1: That is something that in recent years, this wasn't us,
- 5:34Speaker 1: but this is People talk about this all the time.
- 5:36Speaker 1: But doctor Jeff Gardier is somebody that helped us through
- 5:40Speaker 1: some of the difficulties we had to pass several years
- 5:42Speaker 1: as roads. But he talked about and I stopped and
- 5:45Speaker 1: thought about it, and it makes you have a more
- 5:47Speaker 1: sympathetic ear and kinder when you do hear people. Last out,
- 5:52Speaker 1: when you do hear people, they're not bad folks who
- 5:56Speaker 1: have these attitudes, who are doubting this relationship, not at all,
- 6:01Speaker 1: But it does say something about where we are, where
- 6:04Speaker 1: we sit, and the lens through which we view other relationships.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Love the possibilities. It's that's fascinating to me. Bro, didn't you?
- 6:15Speaker 1: I asked you to grab them for me? Here? You
- 6:17Speaker 1: you were reading all the comments, you were We were
- 6:19Speaker 1: in the kitchen a little while ago, having breakfast, and
- 6:23Speaker 1: I was cooking per usual, and you were looking at
- 6:27Speaker 1: the computer. I kept hearing you just laugh out loud.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, I actually am just so surprised
- 6:33Speaker 3: at how.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Skeptical people are.
- 6:36Speaker 3: But this is where we are. Yes, So it's this
- 6:38Speaker 3: whole question. Do y'all think Bryce and Trinity are playing
- 6:41Speaker 3: it safe? Or do they genuinely miss each other? Do
- 6:44Speaker 3: they genuinely like each other? People are like it's giving
- 6:47Speaker 3: they plan this. Someone actually said this, damn can two
- 6:51Speaker 3: people not really like each other? Have y'all been so
- 6:54Speaker 3: damaged to where you can tell if someone is genuine
- 6:57Speaker 3: or not? People have said that this is hilarious. They
- 7:04Speaker 3: actually think that they've gone and done a deep dive
- 7:08Speaker 3: on Bryce's social media and its that he hasn't followed
- 7:10Speaker 3: one black woman.
- 7:12Speaker 2: This is all an act.
- 7:13Speaker 3: He doesn't really like her, and so they're really more
- 7:16Speaker 3: than questioning Trinity, They're really questioning Bryce. They're questioning his
- 7:22Speaker 3: They're questioning if he likes men or women. They're questioning
- 7:25Speaker 3: if he likes black women. It's like anything they can
- 7:28Speaker 3: do to poke holes in this relationship that, I'm sorry
- 7:33Speaker 3: brought me to absolute tears.
- 7:36Speaker 1: And I guess some of that should be said as
- 7:37Speaker 1: well and understandable. Some of this is folks trying to
- 7:41Speaker 1: protect her, like she is the fan favorite on the show. Here,
- 7:46Speaker 1: she is the star of the show, and I think
- 7:49Speaker 1: she's building her her audience in her little army, and
- 7:52Speaker 1: I think some of that might be just they're looking
- 7:55Speaker 1: out for her.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Maybe. So Bryce is a trickster. He's not tricking me
- 7:59Speaker 3: though he's tricking y'all. Someone said they both was crying
- 8:04Speaker 3: and the confessionals you can't fake that.
- 8:06Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I go with that too.
- 8:09Speaker 3: They had no way of knowing what the other person
- 8:11Speaker 3: was doing. And look, they have not had No one
- 8:16Speaker 3: has a private moment to have words, to have a discussion,
- 8:21Speaker 3: to make a plan that I'm aware of the way
- 8:23Speaker 3: I understand this program to exist, you don't even when
- 8:26Speaker 3: they go away and they whisper, and they hide and
- 8:28Speaker 3: they kiss.
- 8:29Speaker 2: We can all still see them in America. We can
- 8:32Speaker 2: all hear their mics.
- 8:33Speaker 1: I didn't think of it. Is there any way to
- 8:35Speaker 1: get a private conversation in with your partner?
- 8:40Speaker 2: I don't think so.
- 8:41Speaker 1: They do at night, don't. They take their microphones off
- 8:43Speaker 1: and they hang them to sleep at night.
- 8:45Speaker 2: I believe I still hear them kissing, do we Yes?
- 8:50Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think that's the only way to whisper in
- 8:54Speaker 1: somebody's ear and late at night. But to your point, Bro,
- 8:57Speaker 1: it's highly unlikely they could have a long conversation to
- 9:00Speaker 1: coordinate this plan to fool America. It's hard to believe.
- 9:05Speaker 3: It's impossible for me to believe. And look, some people
- 9:07Speaker 3: are saying, y'all are haters. This is exactly why hay,
- 9:10Speaker 3: y'all lonely in these comments, Bro, y'all be miserable. Y'all
- 9:13Speaker 3: was on the same shit with Nicolandria and they're still together.
- 9:18Speaker 2: So but everyone's entitled to their opinions.
- 9:20Speaker 1: I guess, okay, that was what I was trying to
- 9:23Speaker 1: say earlier, and that's a different way. But yes, bro,
- 9:26Speaker 1: but it's okay, you do if you if you're sitting
- 9:31Speaker 1: there right now in a miserable relationship that you think
- 9:33Speaker 1: you can't get out of, and you've been in, and
- 9:36Speaker 1: to see someone else fullnd love and to be happy
- 9:38Speaker 1: and to make different choices and to choose each other,
- 9:41Speaker 1: that's the Yeah, it can sting.
- 9:44Speaker 3: Just ask yourself if you ever said, y'all give them
- 9:46Speaker 3: two months just because they're madly in love.
- 9:49Speaker 1: That's mean and me and it's really not.
- 9:53Speaker 2: And we've been given so many timelines.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Oh how many people said, I'll give them six months
- 9:57Speaker 3: or give them one year, This will be funny when
- 9:59Speaker 3: they break. It's like to root for someone to break
- 10:02Speaker 3: up because you don't believe their love is real, or
- 10:06Speaker 3: you don't like how their love makes you feel.
- 10:09Speaker 2: And that's really what this is. Isn't this all about projection?
- 10:12Speaker 3: You don't like how their love makes you feel, whether
- 10:14Speaker 3: it's because they're interracial, whether it's because you don't believe
- 10:18Speaker 3: that can exist, whether you don't believe a man can
- 10:20Speaker 3: actually cry and miss a girl on public television without
- 10:24Speaker 3: being performative.
- 10:25Speaker 1: I have to say his reactions, we've almost seen him.
- 10:31Speaker 1: We've seen him spiral rope since he got to CASA Amore.
- 10:34Speaker 1: He looked like he wanted to get out of Casa Amore.
- 10:36Speaker 1: It just he was uncomfortable there. It wasn't hiss thing.
- 10:38Speaker 1: He clearly wasn't immediately attracted to anybody in a major way.
- 10:42Speaker 1: And Rood, do you remember they sent those postcards and
- 10:44Speaker 1: those pictures from the other camp. Everybody was looking all
- 10:47Speaker 1: around and gathered around. They was showing him kind of
- 10:50Speaker 1: shy and kind of down, and Robes, this was he
- 10:54Speaker 1: was impacted.
- 10:54Speaker 3: He won me over in that moment because instead of
- 10:57Speaker 3: getting mad and wanting to get even, which is that's
- 11:00Speaker 3: what the typical response has been from most folks.
- 11:03Speaker 1: And we saw that.
- 11:04Speaker 2: He instead just said, wow, that really hurts. That's amazing.
- 11:10Speaker 3: I don't know many men, no matter how old they are,
- 11:13Speaker 3: whether they're twenty nine, nineteen or fifty nine, who are
- 11:17Speaker 3: able and confident enough to react that way when they
- 11:21Speaker 3: see their woman with another man.
- 11:22Speaker 2: That's remarkable. That actually is love.
- 11:26Speaker 1: But Robes, it's also human nature. And he just Robes
- 11:30Speaker 1: he handled his emotions probably better than anybody in the
- 11:37Speaker 1: show because he was just honest about them.
- 11:41Speaker 2: And sat with it and it was so refreshing.
- 11:43Speaker 1: And I'm not going to push back against it. I'm
- 11:45Speaker 1: not going to try to explain it. I'm not going
- 11:47Speaker 1: to try to retaliate. I'm not going to try to
- 11:49Speaker 1: make myself feel like damn.
- 11:51Speaker 3: This this sucks and Babe, that's why people think it's
- 11:54Speaker 3: an act because people aren't used to seeing a man,
- 11:57Speaker 3: especially react that way, and so it can't be real
- 12:00Speaker 3: to being hurt, not to being hurt, to express that
- 12:04Speaker 3: hurt in real ways instead of reacting, he actually expressed
- 12:10Speaker 3: it instead of reacting to it and behaving badly, which
- 12:13Speaker 3: is what we're.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Used to seeing.
- 12:14Speaker 3: So it's almost it's offensive to men that people don't
- 12:17Speaker 3: believe Bryce because he actually is reacting in an emotionally mature.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Way, but it's not the way that we're accustomed to
- 12:26Speaker 1: men reacting, and therefore we're now questioning how he's reacting.
- 12:31Speaker 1: You're not questioning Casey's reaction because he reacted.
- 12:34Speaker 4: The way we would expect a lot of men to react.
- 12:37Speaker 4: He's just as hurt as Bryce is. These two men
- 12:42Speaker 4: are reacting and expressing that hurt in two different ways,
- 12:46Speaker 4: and one of them is doing it terribly. Bryce is
- 12:48Speaker 4: doing it correctly, but it's it's causing him to be.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Getting backlash, get him backlash saying he must be gay.
- 12:55Speaker 3: They're saying he must not really be that into her,
- 12:57Speaker 3: because if he really were, there's no way he could.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Just be sad and be a lost puppy dog.
- 13:02Speaker 3: No, he's going to be a man. He's gonna get
- 13:04Speaker 3: all angry, he's gonna get even. So it's interesting to
- 13:07Speaker 3: know that I saw his reaction is so sweet and
- 13:10Speaker 3: genuine and beautiful and pure, and it's interesting to see
- 13:14Speaker 3: some people view it very differently.
- 13:15Speaker 1: I just said it was authentic. That's an authentic reaction.
- 13:19Speaker 1: He's hurt. And the thing is, Robes, everybody else felt
- 13:22Speaker 1: their hurt. They just expressed it differently. I applaud and
- 13:25Speaker 1: I appreciate. But he showed what vulnerability. Some others would
- 13:29Speaker 1: say it was weakness, but.
- 13:31Speaker 2: That is I think that's strength.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Strength to sit and recognize what you're feeling.
- 13:36Speaker 2: And that's hot by the way.
- 13:37Speaker 1: I'm recognizing it.
- 13:39Speaker 2: That's attractive.
- 13:40Speaker 1: And then what does he decide to do do about it?
- 13:43Speaker 1: Sprint to his woman? So that's okay. Yes, see that
- 13:47Speaker 1: little noise, you male, that's where some of us sit,
- 13:52Speaker 1: and some of us are optimistic and some of us
- 13:54Speaker 1: are hopeful. Robes. It's I can understand if someone has
- 13:58Speaker 1: had different relationship experiences to sit there and go no way,
- 14:03Speaker 1: to be jaded, to say this is inauthentic, and then
- 14:05Speaker 1: to explain it away and that helps you understand and
- 14:08Speaker 1: feel better. Okay, that's why I don't have that because
- 14:11Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. Yep, that's not real either. My experience
- 14:16Speaker 1: is the reality. This is just some bs so that
- 14:19Speaker 1: kind of thing, and that's you. You get it, Robes,
- 14:22Speaker 1: and you got to leave some space for people feeling
- 14:24Speaker 1: those things I just right now, and it could swing.
- 14:29Speaker 1: That would be really hard if it did. But right
- 14:32Speaker 1: now they're the darlings and one of the best at
- 14:36Speaker 1: this moment. Robes one of the best stories I've seen
- 14:38Speaker 1: on Love Island any of the seasons I've seen.
- 14:40Speaker 2: I agree.
- 14:41Speaker 3: And when we come back, we're going to talk about
- 14:43Speaker 3: the other lesson we learned from watching Brinity, because it
- 14:49Speaker 3: was the opposite of what we've seen from so many
- 14:52Speaker 3: other couples on Love Island and in real life, the
- 14:55Speaker 3: anti love bombers.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Well, welcome back everyone here on Amy and TJ.
- 15:09Speaker 3: We're talking about the love lessons we've learned from one
- 15:13Speaker 3: of the most dramatic Love Island USA episodes ever last night.
- 15:18Speaker 3: But yeah, we're talking about Brinity, Bryce and Trinity. We
- 15:23Speaker 3: are obsessed with them, and for the record, most of
- 15:26Speaker 3: America is. But wow, there is a loud group of
- 15:29Speaker 3: folks online who are questioning the validity of it, even
- 15:33Speaker 3: suggesting that these two colluded and planned this that they
- 15:37Speaker 3: could win. And maybe if they don't throw shade at Trinity,
- 15:40Speaker 3: they're definitely throwing it at Bryce, saying he is manipulating,
- 15:43Speaker 3: he's performative.
- 15:44Speaker 2: There's no way a man would be crying like that in.
- 15:47Speaker 3: Costs More unless he's gay, or unless he is pretending
- 15:52Speaker 3: to like black women. I mean really, it's like, I
- 15:55Speaker 3: feel like so unwarranted. Some of the criticism that's being
- 15:58Speaker 3: leveled without any sort of proof, just based on people's
- 16:03Speaker 3: unwillingness to accept that he actually might really be into
- 16:07Speaker 3: this girl and have fallen in love with her.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Well, what is the criticism of Sincere and case.
- 16:13Speaker 2: C Oh, they just think they're dogs?
- 16:14Speaker 1: And Zach from cosa amore?
- 16:16Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but that's expected behavior.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so this guy, isn't he doing the thing
- 16:24Speaker 1: that everybody complained that k C and Sincere didn't do
- 16:29Speaker 1: staying considerate. Yeah, he was missing.
- 16:32Speaker 2: I thought it was so sweet.
- 16:33Speaker 1: Isn't he doing the things that everybody said they wish
- 16:36Speaker 1: k C had done and sincere had done, But now
- 16:39Speaker 1: he's doing it, he's still being questioned.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't win, right, But I thought this was interesting.
- 16:43Speaker 3: Someone there's a lot of comments, and someone pointed this out,
- 16:46Speaker 3: and this was there in the in the camp of
- 16:48Speaker 3: Loving Brennandy.
- 16:49Speaker 2: They said, I don't care basically what all y'all are saying.
- 16:53Speaker 2: I love them two together.
- 16:55Speaker 3: Bryce might be fancy, but I think they're slowly building
- 16:58Speaker 3: their relationship that allowed them to like each other for real,
- 17:02Speaker 3: instead of love bombing like everyone else did.
- 17:06Speaker 2: I feel like that's why everyone else's.
- 17:07Speaker 3: Relationship started falling or failing, because they came in too hot.
- 17:11Speaker 3: And I actually think there's a really good point to that.
- 17:15Speaker 3: It's interesting they did slowly build a friendship. Trinity even
- 17:18Speaker 3: complained early on that she didn't know that he was
- 17:21Speaker 3: that into her, that she felt like maybe he was
- 17:22Speaker 3: friend zoning her.
- 17:24Speaker 1: What qualifies as love bombing that you saw in this show,
- 17:26Speaker 1: And actually, when you go back, this is something I
- 17:30Speaker 1: never fully understood the definition of love bombing is what exactly.
- 17:33Speaker 2: When you basically over.
- 17:37Speaker 3: Compliment, over gush on somebody in order to get them
- 17:41Speaker 3: to like you.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so who would you say, I mean,
- 17:44Speaker 1: even if you can't remember specific examples or anything, would
- 17:47Speaker 1: you say this happens? Why I have been on this show,
- 17:49Speaker 1: this is what some of the guys, well.
- 17:51Speaker 3: It does, I actually think, not just the guys, the girls.
- 17:53Speaker 3: I think Kenzie love bombed a lot of folks. I
- 17:56Speaker 3: think Corbyn loved bombed a lot of folks. The two
- 17:58Speaker 3: of them are two peas in a pod. So they're
- 18:00Speaker 3: sitting there and honestly, Sincere is maybe the poster child
- 18:04Speaker 3: of love bombing, like he basically just puts all these compliments,
- 18:08Speaker 3: loves up all these girls, tells them how great they are,
- 18:10Speaker 3: how awesome they make him feel.
- 18:12Speaker 2: But he's doing it to everybody to.
- 18:14Speaker 3: See where he gets the most feedback from.
- 18:16Speaker 2: He wants to get it returned.
- 18:18Speaker 3: So you bomb someone with love so that they make
- 18:21Speaker 3: you feel good too in return.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Okay, and that's not what these two did at all.
- 18:25Speaker 3: No, So the only purpose it's manipulative to love bomb somebody,
- 18:28Speaker 3: you're manipulating them to fall in love with you. And
- 18:31Speaker 3: that is the opposite of what happened between Bryce and Trinity.
- 18:34Speaker 2: And I actually thought Bryce took his.
- 18:36Speaker 3: Time and then it was only I feel like I
- 18:38Speaker 3: didn't really fall in love with their couple and their
- 18:43Speaker 3: maybe budding romance until they were apart. And to see
- 18:46Speaker 3: Bryce genuinely begutted and missing her, yes, I thought that
- 18:51Speaker 3: was so genuine because I felt like he was being genuine.
- 18:54Speaker 3: He wasn't putting on, he wasn't being overly physical with her,
- 18:59Speaker 3: and that was making me think maybe he wasn't that
- 19:01Speaker 3: into her. And after you saw his emotional it seemed
- 19:05Speaker 3: true emotional reaction to being away from.
- 19:07Speaker 2: Her, it clicked for him.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Okay, well he's got to stop dry humping Zack.
- 19:11Speaker 3: That's a little weird, and that is why a lot
- 19:13Speaker 3: of the comments have certainly bubbled up, as you might imagine,
- 19:17Speaker 3: questioning his his heterosexuality.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Okay, but I mean nothing wrong with that. It's a lot,
- 19:26Speaker 1: but sweetheart, I have please correct me if I'm wrong here.
- 19:31Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. But I have seen him do
- 19:34Speaker 1: more intimate things I swear with Zach than I see
- 19:38Speaker 1: him do on a regular voluntary basis with Trinity.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Yet they have a bromance going, a real full fledged bromance,
- 19:46Speaker 3: and Zach participates just as much as Bryce.
- 19:50Speaker 1: I'm sure somewhere there was somebody who could have said
- 19:53Speaker 1: I was in a bromance of some kind or appeared
- 19:56Speaker 1: to be with somebody else. Tight with you maybe, but
- 20:00Speaker 1: it never included.
- 20:02Speaker 3: You're not really into physical touch with another man. I
- 20:05Speaker 3: do think that they're this, these these Zoomers, these young folks,
- 20:10Speaker 3: they are like even think about some of Anna Lisa's
- 20:13Speaker 3: friends like they the boys are way more touchy feely
- 20:16Speaker 3: with each other than I have ever seen heterosexual men touchy.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Feely with each other.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Babe, these two are under the covers together on a
- 20:26Speaker 1: regular basis. There was a weird image of Bryce was
- 20:29Speaker 1: standing and Zach was sitting and he was gesturing with
- 20:33Speaker 1: his head show him his junk, yes, and then they
- 20:37Speaker 1: yet the episode yesterday literally like simulated sex on top
- 20:41Speaker 1: of each other. So fun boys being I don't know,
- 20:46Speaker 1: I don't know, fine, but that doesn't take away from
- 20:50Speaker 1: how he could be feeling about correct.
- 20:52Speaker 3: I think, look, he feels really comfortable with Zach. I
- 20:56Speaker 3: don't know any of that, but I that aside, I
- 21:00Speaker 3: understand why some people are saying some of that stuff
- 21:02Speaker 3: that there is a reason for it. We have seen
- 21:04Speaker 3: things that I have not used to seeing, but I
- 21:07Speaker 3: did believe.
- 21:08Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 21:10Speaker 3: I do believe Bryce's emotions when he's talking about Trinity
- 21:14Speaker 3: and Trinity talking about him are real.
- 21:16Speaker 1: So he was sitting in this little confessional booth by himself.
- 21:19Speaker 1: If you want to say he was performative or putting
- 21:22Speaker 1: on good job, he is going to get calls when
- 21:25Speaker 1: he leaves the eye on them because that's a good performance.
- 21:27Speaker 1: And it just seemed Robes one of the things we
- 21:30Speaker 1: say we liked about him from the beginning. He's just
- 21:33Speaker 1: his authentic goofy self.
- 21:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
- 21:36Speaker 1: And that comes across in that booth and talking about her.
- 21:39Speaker 1: Robes his body language, he was slumped over kind of
- 21:43Speaker 1: his Oh there's.
- 21:44Speaker 3: Memes of him everywhere online of the love Sick Puppy.
- 21:48Speaker 2: It's hilarious.
- 21:49Speaker 3: Honestly, they have both of them, so they'll show him
- 21:51Speaker 3: like looking all dejected and sad Withterei eyes and her
- 21:55Speaker 3: doing the same.
- 21:56Speaker 2: They have memes of these two everywhere. But I love it.
- 21:59Speaker 3: I think it is adorable, I think it's genuine. I
- 22:04Speaker 3: am absolutely one hundred percent all in for Brinity.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Okay, last thing I wanted to ask her I had
- 22:10Speaker 1: a note here, meant to ask it earlier. But the
- 22:12Speaker 1: question about the slow burn, people don't necessarily believe it
- 22:18Speaker 1: because at the beginning it wasn't hot and it wasn't lustful.
- 22:22Speaker 1: What would your suggestion, your recommendation, your advice to women
- 22:26Speaker 1: be in looking out for this particular thing, because there's
- 22:30Speaker 1: a complaint you've heard on this show. Even he's not
- 22:32Speaker 1: all hot and bothered off the top, he must not
- 22:35Speaker 1: be attracted to me. He is not touching me, he's
- 22:37Speaker 1: whor you hear that. And then on the other hand,
- 22:40Speaker 1: I'm being friend zoned. What is preferable or just give
- 22:45Speaker 1: some kind of counsel there. Look, but the lustful we
- 22:48Speaker 1: just met thing versus taking it slow and we're seeing
- 22:51Speaker 1: it pay off.
- 22:51Speaker 3: I can just tell you that lustful almost never works
- 22:54Speaker 3: if it's just immediately lust let it play out, have
- 22:57Speaker 3: your fun, but don't get invested.
- 22:59Speaker 2: I just I don't know. That's been my experience.
- 23:01Speaker 3: And then I do think that you can have and
- 23:05Speaker 3: there's a place in space for that in your life.
- 23:07Speaker 3: But if you are looking for a lasting relationship, I
- 23:10Speaker 3: personally believe having that friendship, that friendship foundation has proven
- 23:15Speaker 3: to be everything. And when you have those tough moments,
- 23:18Speaker 3: and you have those moments of distrust, and you have
- 23:20Speaker 3: those moments of Holy hell, who is this person? If
- 23:23Speaker 3: you can fall back on that friendship, it will carry
- 23:26Speaker 3: you through the tough times.
- 23:27Speaker 2: And yes, obviously you have.
- 23:28Speaker 3: To be attracted to one another, but I do believe
- 23:31Speaker 3: there can be one of the most amazing, passionate romantic
- 23:35Speaker 3: relationships can be built on a foundation of friendship.
- 23:38Speaker 1: We will see what happens to Brennandy. No, we're going
- 23:43Speaker 1: to leave it there. I have other issues with the
- 23:45Speaker 1: show from the last episode, but we're going to keep
- 23:48Speaker 1: it positive here. I always appreciate Jell spending some time
- 23:50Speaker 1: with us as we go through these Love Island love lessons.
- 23:55Speaker 1: I am TJ. Holmes on behalf of my dear Amy Robot.
- 23:57Speaker 1: What's help? Then the kitchen pass, the