Latest / Paramount Wealth Perspectives / Tariffs, Tech & Tight Margins: What’s Really Driving Record Market Highs? - 7/28/25
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- 0:00Chris Coyle: Intro song
- 0:12Hello everyone.
- 0:12Welcome to Paramount Wealth Perspectives, your go-to podcast for the latest updates on global markets and current economic events.
- 0:20This is your host, Chris Coyle.
- 0:21I am the marketing director and a financial advisor here at Paramount Associates Wealth Management.
- 0:26And today I'm joined by Scott Tremlett, chief Investment Officer here at Paramount Associates Wealth Management.
- 0:32We've seen a series of record breaking market highs recently, even as trade policy tensions resurface.
- 0:39Scott, what's your take on why investors seem so unfazed?
- 0:44That hits the nail on the head, Chris.
- 0:46Despite the potential expirations of tariff pauses, investors remain remarkably calm.
- 0:52In fact, the s and p 500 has hit of new record highs several times this month alone.
- 0:57This reflects the market that's banking on economic endurance and downplaying.
- 1:02The risk of renewed tariffs, but I think that complacency is really risky.
- 1:07Only four trade deals have been secured.
- 1:10Vietnam, Japan, Indonesia, and the uk, and the effective tariff rate would rise above 20%, plus the 8% drop in the trade weighted US dollar hasn't even begun to show in inflation numbers.
- 1:25So you're saying inflation risks aren't off the table?
- 1:28Not at all.
- 1:29June's core goods inflation, excluding autos, jumped 0.5% the fastest in three years.
- 1:36Imports from China saw prices surging over 20% annualized, especially on consumer goods like toys and electronics.
- 1:44And while equities shrugged this off, bond markets have not.
- 1:48One year inflation swaps rose 50 basis points or 0.5% signaling of 3.5% inflation forecast.
- 1:58So no, the coast is not clear on inflation.
- 2:02Got it.
- 2:03Let's talk earnings.
- 2:04Where do we stand so far in quarter two?
- 2:07Well, so far we're about one third of the way through quarter two, uh, reporting season, and the results are really mixed.
- 2:13On the positive side, 80% of us.
- 2:17S and P 500 companies have beaten.
- 2:20Earnings estimates above the five year and the 10 year averages.
- 2:24But the size of those SUR prizes is smaller than usual, averaging just 6.1% above estimates, which is definitely below historical norms.
- 2:34However, for market purposes, there is a lower bar to beat.
- 2:40So companies are beating expectations but not by much.
- 2:44Exactly, and, and while earnings are coming in higher.
- 2:47Than they were a week ago, or even at the end of the second quarter.
- 2:51The blended earnings growth rate is just 6.4%.
- 2:55If that holds, it'll be the lowest year over year earnings growth since the first quarter of 2024.
- 3:01Still it would mark the eighth straight quarter of growth, so there is still momentum.
- 3:07Which sectors are driving that performance?
- 3:10Well, communication services, tech and financials are, are leading on earnings if you're looking at the broad market.
- 3:16But overall, it's a split field.
- 3:18So five sectors are showing growth while six, you know, really led by energy are in the decline.
- 3:25I see.
- 3:25And what about revenue trends on the revenue side?
- 3:30You know, also 80% of the companies have beat expectations with overall revenue up, you know, five, 5%, 5.1% year over year.
- 3:39That's the 19th consecutive quarter of revenue growth.
- 3:42Most sectors are growing with tech, healthcare, and communication services leading.
- 3:47Again, the only sector showing a drop in revenue right now is energy.
- 3:52Got it.
- 3:52So most sectors are growing.
- 3:54What about looking ahead?
- 3:56Analysts are expecting earnings growth to pick up, uh, the shooting at right now, 7.6% in third quarter, 7% in the fourth quarter, with the full year growth expected at 9.6%.
- 4:08However, in my mind, valuations are rich.
- 4:11The forward price to earnings multiple for the s and p 500 is now 22.4, and that's well above historical averages.
- 4:20Understood.
- 4:21And which sectors are you, would you say are shining or struggling?
- 4:25Financials and communication services have been the primary drivers of upside surprises in the general US stock market within our portfolios.
- 4:35International equities and select individual stocks, you know, particularly in aerospace, alternative energy, cybersecurity, and specific software companies have really led on performance.
- 4:46We're broadly outperforming the s and p 500 by over two to one year to date.
- 4:52On the flip side, uh, energy earnings have really dropped 24% drop, and the worst really among all sectors are at this point, and that's largely due to a 21% decline in oil prices year over year.
- 5:05Sub-sectors like integrated oil and gas and exploration and production have really got hit hard.
- 5:12So would you say there are any bright spots in energy or utilities?
- 5:16Yes, definitely.
- 5:18Uh, energy infrastructure is a strong investment right now due to the rising global demand for reliable power, driven by AI growth, electrification and reindustrialization.
- 5:29Uh, governments and companies are, are really committing significant capital, uh, to expand and modernize grids, pipelines and LNG facilities.
- 5:40These assets offer stable inflation, linked cash flows and long-term growth tied to the energy transition.
- 5:46We're also seeing encouraging performance from a group of more innovative utility companies.
- 5:52Those focused on grid resilience, energy technology, and supporting power demand from both AI and data infrastructure.
- 6:00Names in this category have held up well in our.
- 6:03Really viewed as a growth pocket within an otherwise defensive sector.
- 6:09Got it.
- 6:09And switching gears, how are global macro conditions influencing your positioning?
- 6:15Great question, Chris.
- 6:17Uh, I mean, while the global economy continues to expand, investors face a more, let's say, fragile, uh, backdrop heading into the third quarter.
- 6:25Policy uncertainty, especially around potential US and EU tariffs, uh, which we may see news this weekend and, and shift shifting.
- 6:32Fed dynamics is weighing on sentiment, uh, even as earnings beat expectations and, and major indices.
- 6:39You have hit new highs recently, with growth risks.
- 6:43You know, tilting downward and headline numbers masking underlying weakness.
- 6:48I'm interested really in, in non-US equities and real assets, uh, particularly in infrastructure plays as some more resilient allocations in this environment.
- 6:58You know, countries around the world right now are in an earlier economic cycle than the US and many central banks have begun, you know, accommodative positioning, and I, I recently rebalanced my equity allocation to equal weight as it had really grown to an overweight position.
- 7:13That makes sense.
- 7:14And, and how about sector leadership in the United States?
- 7:19Well, in 2025, US market leadership has really been driven, like I said, technology, industrials and selective areas within utilities and communication services.
- 7:28You know, tech continues to outperform on strong AI and cloud demand, while industrials really benefit from infrastructure and reshoring trends.
- 7:36Right now, uh, utilities tied to grid modernization and power demand.
- 7:40Are really gaining momentum and communication services has rallied on strength in streaming and digital media.
- 7:47Despite index highs, the rally remains really narrow.
- 7:51You know, highlighting the importance of stock and sector selection and really concentration risk is back in the focus, the top 10 stocks really now make up about 40% of the s and p 500 with mega tech names like Nvidia, Microsoft driving a disproportionate share of the returns this year.
- 8:09That makes the market very vulnerable when these names stumble, the whole index feels it.
- 8:15And finally, before we wrap, let's zoom out a bit.
- 8:19How are international markets performing relative to the United States?
- 8:24They've been surprisingly strong.
- 8:26In fact, international equities broadly outperform US markets in the first half a year.
- 8:31And this was really driven by several key factors, a weaker US dollar, improving sentiment in Europe and emerging markets, and continued monetary easing and really abroad.
- 8:42Europe has really led the way with double digit gains.
- 8:45Fueled by renewed fiscal stimulus and falling rates, especially really in Germany, and, you know, emerging markets, particularly in Latin America and Asia, posted gains with Latin America rising over 12% in the first quarter despite volatility.
- 9:01Where the performance has been driven.
- 9:03It's not all equities.
- 9:04And we've seen private credit, private equity, and infrastructure step up.
- 9:08As you know, effective diversifiers this year, private credit is benefiting from elevated yields.
- 9:15While private equity has added value through selective growth opportunities, infrastructure with inflation and cash flows has shown real resilience this year, and even money markets are back in play.
- 9:26They're offering solid yields and helping manage short-term volatility.
- 9:30Takeaway here is clear global diversification is working again.
- 9:36Well, thank you, Scott, for taking the time to share your thoughts.
- 9:39Thank you to our audience for tuning in, and remember to please submit your questions to General at Paramount as SO c.com.
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