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Cubs fall, Rookie of the Year Odds, Kentucky Derby thoughts, Joe O'Donnell on the Wild & Stanley Cup Playoffs · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon On a
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Tuesday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network back at it for the next
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block of 6 hour programming. Trent Condon, myself, Ken
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Miller, we'll start things off and take you until just before
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2:00. After that, off the bench come
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Sean Roberts and Lucas train until 5, overtime Iowa 5 until
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6. That's what's coming up in the
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next couple of hours. If you're an NHL fan, if you
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like Stanley Club playoffs, if you're a fan of the Wild or the
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Stars, we will take take a long look at that series as it's all
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knotted up at 2 apiece with the radio voice of the Minnesota
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Wild. Joe O'Donnell will join us from
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Dallas just after they're getting off the bus.
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I don't know if they're coming back from the morning skate,
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which I assumed that they would be doing, but we'll talk to Joe
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O'Donnell. They being the Wild from Dallas
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coming up here 12/30, 12:35, depending on traffic.
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So Joe O'Donnell will join us. We're going to play his
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game-winning call from the other night as well as he called the
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overtime goal. Matt Boldy thought it was a
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pretty good call and Joe O'Donnell having a great, great
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time calling hockey and living a dream and happy for him.
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He's a good guy. Of course, he was here in Des
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Moines for years as the voice of the Iowa Wild before he too got
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the call up in our number 2. We're going to take a look back
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at the NFL Draft with Vinny Iyer who covers it for The Sporting
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News. We'll get Vinny's thoughts on
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what teams he thought did well, what teams were swung and
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missed, just some of his thoughts on the three day NFL
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draft that took place this past weekend.
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Look forward to catching up with Vinny on that.
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Maybe some other topics as well. And then finally, Sloane Pyva
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will join us. He's our NBA kind of our go to
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guy from Athlon Sports and we'll take take the temperature of the
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NBA and where we're at here. Orlando wins again last night.
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You had Orlando nice pick on the magic last night, but departo
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when the NBA waters is Denver smacked the T wolves around
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pretty good last night. Could see that one coming.
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And and it's so important as to what line you get and when you
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get it, because there were 12 and a halfs out there.
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That's a loser. There were 11 and a halfs out
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there. That's a winner, depending where
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you shopped and what number you got, what side obviously you
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were on. If you had the T Wolves and took
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the 11 1/2, good for you. If you took 12 1/2, well, not so
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good. Anyways, how did you do with
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your plays last night? We pushed four and four.
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Pretty boring night overall. Was waiting to the end.
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We got Joker under on the rebounds, assists and Jamal
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Murray had an assist that it was inside the Joker.
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It put him over to seven. It was 6 1/2 was the number.
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I thought that thing was going to fall off the rim as he was
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followed going up and it just rolls in and there's the assist
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that pushes it over the over late in the game in that one to
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get us away from a winning night.
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But overall, fun night of sports kind of different.
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Yeah, it was good, I thought. Cubs.
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Bullpen stinks. Yep, they did last night.
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Last night, boy. Steros behind the plate, Yes,
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his first. His first opportunity to catch
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this year in the majors, and apparently there's going to be
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more of this. Yeah, what did you?
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I think, you know, other than the, we challenged a pitch that
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was clearly a ball and it was their second challenge.
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They'd lost one early. So they are out of challenges
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after middle of the third inning.
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But other than that, I didn't think it was bad by any means.
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I'm I'm anxious to see I don't know how many times he's going
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to get the opportunity to catch, but good God, I mean, you saw
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the Grand Slam. This guy, this guy's bat is
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absolutely MLB legit. And you know, Sal Stewart's
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still the favorite. What what is bought by his
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stairs today to win the rookie of the year.
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He was 12 to one yesterday. I'm wondering if the Grand Slam
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moved those numbers anywhere and the fact that, you know, longer,
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no longer is he kind of button holed as ADH against
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right-handed batters only. A, if they're going to hit him,
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hit lefties and B, you're going to actually use him behind the
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plate. That maybe increases his value
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there. And I'm saying this in Full
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disclosure, I've got him at 30 and one.
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So I'm going to obviously, you know, maybe pay a little bit
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closer attention to this. But look, the Cubs move the
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needles here and buy steroids as a hit machine.
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That guy can swing and you know that and we talking about like
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15 games behind the plate this year, if that's.
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Probably, I would say. Something like that and then the
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DA. Cuz Amaya is the guy.
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Now, I asked this to Kathy last week.
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You got to give him some opportunities though against
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lefties. Without a doubt, it can't be.
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He's too talented to just be a strict platoon guy.
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I get early in his career setting him up for success.
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I understand that. But some playoff time, oh,
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sorry, we got a tough lefty out there.
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We're not going to have her bias tariffs out there.
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Like you just can't, right? He's too good, too talented.
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You've got to start to get him a bats and I think that will
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happen. That's not a negative at this
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point. Looking at the Padres last night
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though, and I didn't see a ton of it, but he didn't look out of
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place. No, I didn't think so.
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I didn't think so at all. Not one bit.
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Boyd wasn't great and maybe that's something you point to.
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Well, new catcher. The other thing you mentioned
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the challenge and I did see that and I do wonder how many pitches
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is he actually tracking? Like how many times has he been
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working behind the plate? I'm sure some, but.
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Right, but not with that tool at his disposal.
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And with guys full throttle in a game, all the movement, all the
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speed, like all that part of it, it was just something that kind
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of lingered in my mind last night when I saw that.
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Like, I really can't kill him. I don't know how many balls he's
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actually tracked and knowing the strike zone from back there as
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opposed to being at the plate because he just hasn't done it
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very often. But overall, that is a good
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thing. You have that guy now it's about
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finding some health because. The pitching stuff is, I mean,
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it's, it's, it's almost laughable, right?
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Because if you don't like I mean, it's just awful the the
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number of injuries and to the pitcher both and and here as
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pointed out yesterday, Matt Snyder pointed out yesterday
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reminded us how many guys are hurt in Iowa.
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So it's we'll we'll see where it goes.
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It's going to be a heck of a race.
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The Cubs are by no no way shape or form as since to win this
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division. They just aren't now if health
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if they were healthy, maybe that's another story.
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There was a manager fired this morning, Rob Thompson walk the
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plank in Philadelphia. We talk about the Mets in their
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underachieving start. The Phillies had the exact same
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record as the Mets. Mets have decided to stick with
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Mendoza, so within the last four days is 3 or 4 days.
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Anyways. We're not even at the end of
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April. We've already had two managers
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fired right in Cora with Boston, who their team is
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underachieving. A lot of folks like the Red Sox
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and the American League East this year and the Phillies were
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going to be a major, major threat to win the National
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League East. Well, they're off to a terrible
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start. Don Mattingly and his kids, the
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GM, did you know that? No, I didn't.
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Either yes, until this morning. I didn't either.
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That was news to me. All right.
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First ever Father, son, manager, GM.
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Interesting Alex Cora was offered the job.
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He was very quick. I'm not surprised.
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No, not at all. Got a World Series ring, you
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know, he's very well respected in the game, but says, you know,
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he's just going to take the take the euro.
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And and I had to on one hand, I mean, this is the Phillies.
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This is a pretty good ballclub. And this isn't like a, you know,
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every 10 years they pop up and make a find their way into the
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wild card, right? This is a good ballclub and A
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and a fan base that wants Philadelphia.
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They're passionate about their sports teams with without a
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shadow of a doubt. So that's the baseball from last
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night. You're twins.
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You got it done. Twins in a big way.
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Yes, swung it well again. Castillo looks cooked.
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He does doesn't. He.
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Been around a long time. It has not gone well throughout
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the course of the season. This isn't just a blip on the
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radar. This has been continuously now.
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I was looking at his game log before last night and he gave
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up. Seven earned last night as many.
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Have one good start recently. He did.
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He gave up one earned run. He gave up four runs also in
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that. Game.
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Oh, did he? He did.
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So you can, well, OK, there was errors behind him still.
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It looks like that we are trending towards the back end
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for Luis Castillo. Still only 33 though.
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I was a bit surprised by that too.
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I was going through it last night.
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But the twins going to win. Look, they're going to be not
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competitive. They're not going to be chasing
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anything this year. It's going to be decisions.
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What do you do with Joe Ryan, Byron Buxton, what kind of hall
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you could get if he makes the decision that he wants to move
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on? So that's really what it's going
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to be here because we got wild tonight.
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He will steal a game away. Unbelievable.
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And, of course, the Vikings. Yeah, let's see where this goes
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with with Minnesota Brendan Soarsbeat, right?
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I'm starting to believe that he'll never, ever play a a snap
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for the Texas Tech Red Raiders. I'm starting to feel like that
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and it and it goes back and and I want to pass me the tinfoil
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hat. OK, here you go.
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So. We should get 2 he.
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Should yeah, instead of passing it back and forth.
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So yesterday it came out that that Brendan Sarsby, obviously
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he's in, he's in rehab. And I'm, I'm not making fun of
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the circumstances. This, this seemingly is an
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addiction when it comes to Sarsby.
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But I was kind of taken aback by how the information was able to
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be put forth when it comes to him actually going to Cincinnati
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Reds games and betting every pitch.
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That tells me they're trying to they're trying to, you know,
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this guy's really sick. This guy's, you know, have some
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sympathy for him. NCAA, he's really got a problem.
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And and if obviously, if he's doing that, he clearly does.
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I mean, you're sitting at a Reds game and you're betting ball
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strike every single pitch that comes.
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So I just wonder if they were trying to maybe play the
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sympathy card when it comes to Soresby.
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Like, let's have a little compassion for this young man.
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He's he's got a he's got a sickness right now.
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And and apparently he does. But I, I, I was surprised we got
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that little nugget of information.
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Yeah. Absolutely.
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I think you're where you started.
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The conversation is absolutely right.
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He's not going to play a Texas Tech.
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Because if you bet on your team, yeah, it's it's black and white,
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I think. And we have been steadfast going
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back to the Iowa and Iowa State thing.
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By the way, how did Dan Wetzel not include that in his piece?
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Did you see that I did the first major gambling scandal to hit
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and see to hit the hit college football.
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Happened. No, it didn't.
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No, absolutely not. And then he comes.
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So I didn't see if there'd been a a retraction or an edit to his
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original piece, but he did put the Iowa story in there.
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But then he went on to throw a little, I don't know, throw a
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little dirt on the I when Iowa State.
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But this is Soresby we're talking about here.
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Excuse me, 100 Deckers was going to be the starting quarterback
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for Iowa State, right? Yes.
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A team that had some expectations.
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Absolutely. Iowa lost a couple of pretty big
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pieces in their own right. Iowa State lost a running back
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in Jairal Brock, a good one, a good one.
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They so anyways, do a little homework.
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That wasn't the first one And and Sarsby is a blast.
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He was a first round pick. You know what I didn't check
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yesterday? Who's got Heisman odds out?
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Oh, absolutely. Does DraftKings have them?
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They do, yeah. Is he still listed?
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Speaking of, I did not see awards at DraftKings.
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I did see a FanDuel for your rookie the year question.
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Oh yeah, and it was he up still. By esteros is down 2 + 550 there
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is he perfectly Sal Stewart plus 135 don't win McLean in between
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them at plus 350 in the American League Marikami plus 155 as he
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does it again last night it's. Unbelievable for them.
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Yes, and I'm not sure if there's many other options.
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What do you think of the Akamoto Kid for your Blue Jays?
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Okay, he's 27 to 1. Is he?
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27 to 1. He's okay.
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It didn't. I didn't see no winking over
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there anything. But I had Bob Bouchet.
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Yeah, right. Yeah.
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Understand that most definitely I think source me the career is
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over at the collegiate level and.
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So what does Texas Tech do? There's no transfer portal.
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Well, what are their player quarterbacks from a year ago?
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Will Hammond Yes. Will Hammond is getting healthy,
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right and will be potentially ready by August camp.
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That's Will Hammond. That's all you could do because.
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Potentially. With the ghost trains for rule,
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if you go out you get a guy A. Major penalty.
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That means that what the head coach has to sit out 50% of the
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season, the player has to sit out 30.
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Percent of the season. And if you don't know, ghost
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transfer, so this is a new thing.
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This is what the Lucas kid right from that went from Wisconsin to
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Miami. He did not enter the portal.
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He just left because Wisconsin wasn't going to let him out.
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And this was the direction that they went.
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You you can still do that, but there are major ramifications.
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You also have to prove that there is not tampering involved
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in order for that to happen. Yes, you can enroll in another
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school. You can still do that, but
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you're going to sit out as a player 30% of the year and the
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do. They get to pick the games.
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I'm guessing it's non con, non con, non con.
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I think it's just the beginning of the season, first three games
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of the year. That's.
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Unfortunate that's a farce of its own right, too.
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Yeah, I agree. I agree.
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Get to pick the games. Sisters of the Poor, right?
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No, we'll see. We'll see where that goes.
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But man, I'm starting to they're they're and that's $5,000,000.
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So will they have to pay him? That's a.
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Cody came, right? Yeah.
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And I'm guessing he's got some pretty good attorneys on his
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side. Here's the baseball, Betty.
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What's on your mind? Well, maybe Soresby was.
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Maybe it was a Red Indians game and Class A was keeping them
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off. Yeah, good one, Betty, Good one.
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Bought a bank? No, but how about the start the
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Braves have gotten off to even with a Cunha not doing anything
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and Riley not really doing anything yet they still have the
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best run differential in baseball.
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And yeah, the Dodgers are still sure been held a beat.
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But the Braves have gotten off to a good start and really all
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they have at the front end of the rotation of Strider, they
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now are giving not going to pitch Strider.
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And in Colorado this weekend, they're going to give him more
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rehab start instead of having him pitch in the friendly
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confines of Coors Field. So his first start is
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tentatively scheduled for next week.
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Now against the Dodgers, I don't know.
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Do you want to pitch against the Dodgers or do you want to pitch?
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Colorado, I'd rather pitch, although the Rockies are red hot
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as they sweep the Mets. All right, never, never mind,
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never mind that. What?
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So who's going to win the Derby? I don't know, I I like the one
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that was it been 50 years since the one holds. 1/19/1986 But
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it's different circumstances with the old gate in the new
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day. I'm hearing some bad things
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about him, Betty. I'm hearing some very
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questionable health, potential health issues when it comes to
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1/4 crack in his hoof which may prevent him from running.
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So pay attention. To that I like, I like Puma as a
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as a oh. By the way, did you do you know
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who bought that horse yesterday or bought a piece of that horse
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yesterday? So Puma was going to be probably
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the third or fourth choice, maybe 8:00 to 1:00 or so.
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Puma's about to become the favorite in the Kentucky Derby.
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And who could who? Who within who within their
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powers has that much behind them to change the fortunes of a of a
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Kentucky Derby betting pool? Probably the guy that.
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No, it's a woman. It's a, it's a woman.
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It's a woman. Who's the who's the most famous
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woman in the world right now? Taylor Swift.
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She bought the Puma, She's got a Kentucky Derby horse.
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Her and Travis Kelsey bought the Puma.
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Puma is going to be the favorite in the race, which I love
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because all those Swifties are going to bet.
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And that frustrates me because I thought I was going to get them
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at 10 or 12. You're going to get them at 3:00
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or 4:00 to 1:00. Choice.
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That's that's brutal. That's just, you know, yeah,
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'cause you're going to get your casual $2.00.
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Yeah, they're going to just all bet.
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Oh, I had a Swifty ticket and then not cash the Dang thing.
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Well, they're not going to get a an opportunity to cash in any
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ways because emerging markets going to win the race.
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Betty, we'll see you later. Have a good one.
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See you bud. Emerging market the 15 yes.
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Chad Brown Yep. And.
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Flavian Pratt. Flavian Pratt.
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All right, who are the jockey jockeys I need to know?
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Pratt. Pratt.
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I rat Ortiz. Those are the two best in the
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world. OK, Ortiz is on the one
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renegade. He's the favorite.
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He drew the one post. It's kiss a death.
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It it is now. It's not as bad as it used to
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be, but it's still really bad because you've got nineteen
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horses on. You're outside as you try and
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navigate a trip. It's a long stretch before the
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first turn, but it's still really unfortunate where he
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drew. And as a guy who doesn't bet the
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favorites, I love where he drew because it's it's going to be
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almost impossible. I think if he wins, tip your
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cap, tip your cap. It's a, it would be a great ride
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to navigate your way through all of that traffic trouble.
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But B are clearly the best horse and the best horse won the race.
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I won't bet him. I I never bet the favorites.
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Never. I like emerging market.
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I like the horse on the outside, full effort.
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He's 20 to 1. And there's another Dannon
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bourbon. He's a Japanese horse.
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OK. We've talked about this often
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the year these last few years. And Japanese horses are making
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huge impact. They haven't won the Derby yet.
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The only thing that worries me about this is obviously when you
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run a race in North America, you're running counterclockwise,
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and you run a race in Japan you're running clockwise.
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Really. Yes.
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I don't remember ever hearing that.
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A lot of tracks. He's in Europe and a lot and
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certainly outside of North America do run that way.
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But I think he's really talented and he's, I shop for prices.
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Shop for prices. By the way, the race goes off at
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6:00. I'll be at Prairie Meadows.
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We're going to run we as I'm part of Prairie Meadows.
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And you're happy about? That I'm full circle, Yeah, full
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circle. We're going to run a race maybe
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2 prior to the Derby, then stop, and then we're going to come
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back and run a couple more races.
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There's not going to be a lot of races on Saturday night, but
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we're going to have some live racing.
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If you're out there, come up and say hey to me, I'll be on the
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4th floor. The Derby goes just about 6:00,
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our first live race at 5:00. So looking through the list and
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going through really for the first time took a peek.
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Is our guy going to come on from the Philadelphia?
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Yes, yes, we're going to get him potentially tomorrow or
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Thursday. We'll get him on.
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Is Bob Baffert now? Was back last?
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Year last year and he's got 2 long shots in.
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Here 2 long shots. I mean is it worth at least a
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gander or a little bit diving in or is has the?
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I don't start. Past about that, well.
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This year it goes in cyclical. I always see Pletcher too.
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Definitely. Pletcher's got, he's got the
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favorite Renegade, he's got the favorite Renegade.
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I like emerging market, I like full effort and I like Dan and
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bourbon. Those are my 3 long shots.
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I'm going to tie them up. And my partner, Mr. Executive
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Leon, we're going to fire at it as we always do.
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Some we'll get Some years are better than others.
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And the Oaks on Friday. But you don't get.
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I know. But you know what this it's,
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it's going to be run at night. Oh, really?
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830 I think 830 our time. Oh yeah, I see that right now,
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840. 840, They've never run it night before, yeah.
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That's usually normal middle of the afternoon.
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I the afternoon you got a name and I'm I'm open up the app real
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quick and try to get something in there right as they're
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getting ready to race there. Is that good thing or is it just
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going to lead to more debauchery and I?
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Don't know about debauchery, but I I it's going to lead to I
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don't think the people that are. Look, if you'll have 120,000
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people that are on Friday and get ready for 175,000 people the
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next day, that's a pretty quick turn around A.
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Lot of clean up dude. A lot.
20:16
Of clean up and get ready to to to open it up again if you've
20:20
never been and you want to go it truly is worth it now it's
20:23
unbelievably expensive. It's it's priced itself way out
20:27
of the common man's budget. It really has.
20:30
It didn't used to be the case. I mean, you can still afford to
20:33
get into the infield, but if you're a 20 something, that's
20:36
where you want to be. You want to be in the infield
20:39
drinking. It's a huge party.
20:41
Won't see much of the race, but who cares, right?
20:45
You're you're there just for the experience.
20:47
But it really is a a slice of Americana.
20:52
It's first Saturday in May. It's the world's most famous
20:54
horse race. They call it that for a reason.
20:56
I wanted to also pose to you, I sent this article to you and I
21:00
know something that you know very well.
21:01
Dan Wilkin over at Yahoo had an article talking about how
21:05
algorithms are changing horse betting and outraging gamblers
21:08
in the. Computer assisted wagering.
21:10
So help me out here what this kind of all means and what it
21:13
means to everyday joes, even the baseball bennies that like to
21:16
bet but they're not putting down thousands of dollars.
21:19
What this means to most of our listeners that want to even bet
21:22
on the. Well, I don't think it'll infect
21:24
the Derby because the pools are so big.
21:26
But but what it does do is so when you make a bet, say at
21:30
Prairie Meadows on a race, it, well, I'll just, I'll just
21:32
choose Churchill Downs. Your bet gets placed at Prairie
21:37
Meadows and then it's got to go through.
21:38
It's all electronics and pretty quickly it transfers in there.
21:42
But it's, it's just it, there's a couple of stops before it gets
21:45
into the betting pool. So the race, when the race, when
21:48
the starting gate opens, the betting shuts off, right?
21:51
Betting shuts off. The algorithm right up until
21:54
before that shuts off, tries to find a vulnerability in the
21:58
market. Now, I don't know the actual
22:00
algorithms, but what pisses betters off is they'll bet a
22:04
horse that when the gate opens, and if they put him up on the
22:08
board and he's in front and #4 he's 12 to one.
22:11
Well, as the horses get closer to the turn, all of a sudden he
22:13
drops to 6:00 to 1:00, right? Oh, what are they doing?
22:17
How are they fixing this, This is rigged, blah blah blah.
22:21
Sure. No, it just takes time for it to
22:23
cycle into the pool. And these people aren't betting,
22:27
aren't handicapping a race, they're handicapping what they
22:29
think are vulnerabilities in the pools.
22:33
They call it cause computer assisted wagering and it's like
22:38
probably half of a track's handle.
22:40
It's a huge amount of money and every dollar that's bet, some of
22:45
that goes to the purses that these horses race for.
22:48
But betters don't like it, and tracks are starting to, you
22:52
know, realize that, that we better find another way to make
22:55
some money now. Prairie Meadows did that a long
22:56
time ago, in 1995 when they opened up a racino, the first
23:00
one in the country to do so. What a time that was.
23:04
What a time. I can imagine that'll be a fun
23:06
story time here coming up here in the next couple of months.
23:08
Yeah, absolutely. I want to go through that one a
23:10
little bit. I want to play Prairie Meadows
23:12
most famous race at some .0. Absolutely know that one well.
23:16
November 5th, 1989. Remember it like yesterday?
23:19
I do absolutely. All right, we'll take a time
23:21
out. We'll come back and talk to Joe
23:26
O'Donnell now. We're probably going to be a
23:28
couple of minutes before we get to Joe because Joe would like I
23:30
say he's on a bus. They're coming back from from
23:33
the morning skate. This is such a great series,
23:35
Trent. This is a pivotal, pivotal Game
23:38
5 tonight. Game six will be, I want to say,
23:41
Thursday night back in Saint Paul.
23:43
What do they call that? The Grand Casino.
23:45
The Grand Casino? Is that what it is?
23:47
I think it is. Do you know where that is?
23:49
Is that in Saint Paul? The Grand Casino I.
23:51
Don't know, I don't think unless.
23:53
I don't think they do either. Now the one in that's not,
23:58
that's not Grand Casino, I don't think.
24:01
Grand casino Hinckley. OK, that's Minnesota.
24:05
That is, where's Hinckley? Don't know, but they sponsored
24:08
the name. They bought the naming rights
24:10
for the arena. It's on the water.
24:12
Oh, it's up there. It's way up there.
24:14
It's up, up, up there it is. Like Canadian border up there?
24:19
No, not that far, but it is up past.
24:22
I mean, it's in between Minneapolis and Duluth, is that
24:25
right? Or in Casino Hinckley, that's
24:28
what it says. Spend some money.
24:30
Yeah. See Paul.
24:31
Maybe not a lot of opportunities in Hinckley to advertise.
24:34
I guess. Maybe you've got that market
24:36
already. Now we do have one other local
24:38
note from that just happened right before we went on the air.
24:41
OK, the Iowa women did get another commitment.
24:43
They are up to now nine players on their roster.
24:46
Joslyn Faison, who was also at Georgia, is that connection
24:50
continues. She was top 100 player out of
24:52
high school, just played a little bit this year during her
24:54
freshman year. A six one guard though, pretty
24:56
good athlete. Got some work to do offensively,
24:59
but that's your ninth player. It's pretty good.
25:02
I said at the beginning of this process I was not concerned
25:04
about Jan Jensen going out there and finding I didn't think it
25:08
was going to be the number three player in the portal and Danny
25:11
Carnegie, but they were going to find a couple of good players.
25:13
That wasn't a problem. They found a real good one.
25:15
Her and Whiting, I mean that's that's really nice.
25:18
I and I didn't think that that was going to be an issue.
25:20
It's these spots. We don't have much playing time
25:23
for you. We got a ton of players coming
25:24
back. Getting 910-1112 maybe is what
25:28
you want to go roster wise, fighting those players that are
25:31
willing to come in. We don't got a lot of money for
25:34
you. You're probably going to have to
25:35
take the minimum What? Is the minimum.
25:38
Any idea? For would you make 75?
25:41
Is that too high maybe? Yeah, that's, I think that's a
25:44
fair maybe a little bit lower. OK, what?
25:47
What would the minimum be on Mccollum's?
25:48
Roster probably 150. Would it be that much?
25:52
I think so. Good for them, absolutely.
25:55
I mean football just three years ago now I think the was like 50
25:59
and that is definitely bumped up.
26:02
Well, I ever get my wish that there's a a clearing house where
26:05
we can go and find out how much everybody's making.
26:07
Probably not. Probably not until it's
26:09
unionized and until they become athletes.
26:11
That will be the time we get that.
26:13
I'd love to know what source be going to do.
26:15
Are they going to fight him for that $5,000,000?
26:17
Is there a clause in his contract?
26:19
Apparently goes back to last year's.
26:21
Cincinnati was aware he's got a gambling problem.
26:24
They let him play. They let him play.
26:27
I, I honest to God, I'm convinced that that little
26:29
nugget of how sick he is and if you're at a ball game and you're
26:33
betting every single pitch, ball or strike, you got a problem.
26:36
Yes. You've got a problem if they're
26:38
not trying to, you know, invoke some sympathy amongst maybe some
26:41
people because is Texas Tech cooked?
26:46
To be a national championship contender.
26:48
Well, they're the overwhelming favorite to win the Big 12 with
26:51
Soresby. If it's Hammond, who do you like
26:53
more than them? Well, BYU, maybe.
27:00
Texas Tech did it with defence a year.
27:01
Ago they did they That's where they spent their money.
27:03
They spent their money on defence.
27:06
Where will they? And how different this would be
27:09
if we had a spring portal all of a sudden Texas Tech and what
27:12
they'd be doing with whoever was eligible and the opportunity
27:16
there. I kind of do miss the spring
27:18
portal a little. Bit I do too a for content.
27:20
So I'm looking at DraftKings right now at their Heisman odds
27:27
and I don't see him listed, so they must 'cause he would have
27:33
been shorter than 70 to one, wouldn't he?
27:36
Yeah, for sure. Oh absolutely.
27:37
Yeah, so will Hammond's now. On the list.
27:39
There you go. So he's 50 to 1.
27:42
So, so they they've taken, they've taken Sorsby off, which
27:45
is the prudent move. They just have wins up.
27:49
Let me see, let me go through here.
27:51
Wins there. They got a lot of teams listed.
27:54
Let's go to the Big 12. Texas Tech win total is 11.
28:00
Still 11, still high. They're losing 2 games this
28:04
year. Hard to see. 11.
28:08
And to win the Big 12. This is from fee and dual.
28:10
They are still the betting favorite.
28:12
Are they? +105 to win the conference, plus
28:15
606 to one for BYU. Are you, are you making that bet
28:18
without knowing who's quarterback?
28:21
I just will. Hammond's OK.
28:22
I don't want to make it sound like he's brutal.
28:25
He's OK, but he had a major injury.
28:28
I would take a shot on Houston at 14 to one.
28:30
OK, I got a lot more work to do. What's?
28:34
Iowa State's win total at DraftKings.
28:37
They're 70 to 1 to win the conference.
28:39
They are the second to last betting choice them in
28:41
Cincinnati. Both 70 to 1.
28:43
Colorado. Boy, how that star has fallen.
28:46
100 to one now for them to win the Big 12 this season.
28:50
You got win totals up there. They got the They got a variety
28:53
4 1/2, five and a half, 6 1/2. I got win totals here.
28:57
Let's see. That's all SEC.
28:59
Let's get to the Big 12. Iowa State 5 1/2.
29:04
How do you bet? How do you know?
29:07
No clue on the. You really don't under.
29:10
What place is it under heavily juice?
29:12
-132 plus one O 8 if you think the Cyclones are going to be
29:17
bull eligible this year with six wins.
29:19
Hockey talk next. The voice of the the Minnesota
29:22
Wild, Joe O'Donnell joins us next Game 5 tonight, Dallas,
29:25
Minnesota. Joe O'Donnell joins Miller and
29:27
Condon when we come back on the Iowa Sports Radio Network. 1235
29:40
Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network, Our number 2.
29:45
If you're a fan of the NFL or the NFL draft, Vinnie Iyer
29:48
covered it for The Sporting News.
29:51
Vinny will join us at 1:00, talk about some of the teams that he
29:55
thought did very well give our opinions as well.
29:57
It was pretty fascinating weekend watching it all unfold
30:00
if you're into the draft. So we'll do that at 1:00.
30:02
And then Sloan Piva, who covers the NBA, also sports wagering
30:07
wise, will join us at about 1:35.
30:10
All right, so we're going to head down to Dallas.
30:12
The voice of the Minnesota Wild series tied up at 2 apiece.
30:17
Just a phenomenal end to it. Let's get Joe O'Donnell on here.
30:20
While we do it, we're going to let him listen to himself.
30:22
Here's Joe O'Donnell, our next guest, as he called the game
30:25
winner to even the series of two absorbs.
30:28
Fires went in, Boldy hustling to it in 40 seconds, going
30:30
overtime. Boldy dumped in the corner by
30:32
Myers. Boldy gets back to his skates.
30:34
A puck battle here over the left shoulder of Ottinger.
30:37
Boldy trying to stab it free, bumped by Myers again, racing to
30:40
a Capri saw up high for Spurgeon.
30:42
Spurgeon has shot this guy. The Wild win Game 4, three to
30:56
two and we've got a series. It's all not.
31:00
Enough, that's who. Appease.
31:03
Well, Well done, Joe. Donald, do you?
31:05
Do you like hearing yourself? I mean, you like to know that
31:10
you hopefully got the call right?
31:12
You did you did you know what I. Mean some.
31:14
Sometimes you don't know in the moment, sometimes you know,
31:17
sometimes I feel like you don't know.
31:18
So to hear it back, occasionally it's OK.
31:21
I was on that one. Or darn, I wish I'd said
31:24
something different or whatever. So thanks for having me on.
31:27
As always. Been a fun series so far and
31:30
it's shaping up to be a long one, which I think a lot of us
31:33
expected. Absolutely.
31:34
You know what, in sports we seldom you know when we promote
31:37
and think this is going to be such a great series.
31:39
I can't pick the winner. These two seldom doesn't live up
31:42
to it. So far so good for this one Joe.
31:44
It has absolutely been phenomenal.
31:46
I don't know who has an edge at this point.
31:48
I I know Dallas has home ice advantage with two of the last
31:52
three in Dallas, but I I honestly don't know who has an
31:55
edge. Yeah, it's, I think both coaches
31:59
will tell you the same thing. You know, a lot of respect for
32:01
the other side. And it has been sort of a coin
32:03
flip the last couple games. The power play for Dallas has
32:07
been the difference for them. But five on five, Minnesota's
32:10
been the better team as far as at least producing offense.
32:13
So it should be, you know, fun essentially best of three.
32:17
I just saw that, you know, the NHL puts out a lot of little
32:20
Nuggets and stats, of course, this time of year.
32:22
And you know, it shouldn't be much of a surprise if it's the
32:25
best of sevens tied to 2, the Game 5 winner, you know, about
32:29
80% of the time they move on. So this is as pivotal as it
32:33
gets. Doesn't mean you're done if you
32:34
lose it, but obviously put yourself in the driver's seat
32:38
whoever wins this one tonight. Well, I was noticing because we
32:41
had the audio clip for radio, but the video clip on X.
32:45
Do you ever use the monitor? Are you strictly on the ice?
32:48
Also didn't see any binoculars as you were keeping an eye on
32:51
it. So I have broadcast a lot of
32:53
sports, anything from soccer to tennis, but I've never done
32:57
hockey and everything in between.
32:59
So fill me in a little bit as a play by play guy and and how you
33:02
keep it because watching on television as a hockey novice
33:05
boy, that feels incredibly difficult.
33:08
Almost never used the monitor, Trent, unless I'm looking for a
33:11
replay. You know, most times we're in
33:14
buildings with pretty good sight lines.
33:17
And even if we're far away, I don't ever really use the
33:19
monitor for player identification.
33:23
And maybe a really rare instance, I feel like for me to
33:26
be looking at that as opposed to the actual action on the ice and
33:31
it just wraps, man. Like I guess unfortunately or
33:35
fortunately, I'm not sure which way to look at, but doing this a
33:37
long time. So, you know, you call over 1000
33:40
minor league games and then get a chance in the NHL.
33:43
You feel like you've seen a lot. I will say, though, this time of
33:46
year, like, I'm still getting used to the Stanley Cup Playoffs
33:51
from the standpoint of like just how emotional it is, just how
33:55
roller coaster ride it is from a broadcast perspective.
33:58
And I probably need to do a better job of trying to like,
34:03
distance myself from that, if that makes sense.
34:05
Kind of just let the game come to you.
34:08
Don't, you know, get too ramped up because that's when you're
34:10
probably, you know, miss something.
34:14
Or I try not to tell too many stories or dive into too many
34:17
stats that require me to look down at my notes because that's
34:20
when you miss something as well, if that makes sense.
34:22
So trying to just take a deep breath in those overtimes and
34:25
double overtime and just tell the story of what you know, what
34:29
a great game is kind of unfolding in front of us.
34:31
And it was an awesome game the other day.
34:33
I I've seen Brock Faber play a lot of hockey.
34:36
I am not sure I've seen him play.
34:38
He's good, don't get me wrong. I think he's taking it to
34:41
another level. Faber's been unbelievable so far
34:44
in this series. Yeah, he's probably been the
34:47
best player for either team and that's saying something with the
34:49
star power that's out there. Ken, just talking with John
34:52
Heinz and, you know, kind of our little broadcast exclusive
34:56
broadcast chat that we get prior to almost every game, really.
35:00
John does a great job of giving us some additional time to kind
35:03
of add some stuff that's not in front of the general media.
35:07
You know, the ESPN 2 crew was there as well today to sort of
35:10
do the same thing. And Katie Storm from FanDuel
35:14
just said, hey, Rock Faber, you know, like he's been so good.
35:17
What? And John Hines said it's the
35:19
skating and his attention to detail and he's playing like
35:23
he's seen Faber play it, you know, the Olympics and obviously
35:26
last year in the Four Nations for Team USA and just how good
35:29
he is. So these big moments, these big
35:31
games, you're getting the best from Rock Faber internationally.
35:34
And now for the Wild as well. He has just been excellent.
35:38
We look forward and we already know the winner of this series
35:41
is going to move on to take on Colorado.
35:44
Now, there were some tight games in there against the Kings, but
35:46
a sweep is a sweep. Knowing that this is going to be
35:48
a minimum 6, probably seven games between these two teams,
35:52
banked up the physicality that we've seen throughout the course
35:54
of the playoffs. Colorado's really good.
35:56
What kind of shot do you give either of these squads though in
35:59
the next round against Colorado? Well, they present, you know,
36:04
depending on who comes out of here, right, it's going to be a
36:06
different type of opponent. Colorado, Dallas and Minnesota,
36:10
a lot of similarities in the regular season.
36:11
You look at some of the numbers you dive into, you know, some of
36:14
the deeper stats as well. They're pretty evenly matched.
36:17
Colorado was such a strong team out of the gate, you know,
36:21
basically putting themselves in upper echelon NHL history as far
36:25
as the way they started the season hit a little bumpy patch
36:28
kind of in that March territory, ended up winning the President's
36:32
Trophy, best record in hockey. And now they are rested and
36:36
they're a little different team. Like I I look at Dallas and
36:39
Minnesota and I think about, you know, obviously not just the
36:44
goaltending, but the star power. And then you look at Colorado
36:47
and you go, oh, man, they they check a lot of boxes too, right?
36:50
McKinnon, Mccarr, Martine, nature's had a great year.
36:54
Landis Cogs healthy play. Well, you know, it'll just be
36:58
kind of, I think whoever comes out between the Wild and the
37:01
Stars is going to be, you know, how quickly can you get back to
37:05
your game, right? It's going to be an emotional
37:07
series. Is there a let down there for
37:08
either of those teams? Are they still revved up for
37:10
game one where maybe Colorado's a little rusty or not at that
37:14
high octane level to start another series?
37:16
So I think early in the series, whoever comes out of this one,
37:20
you know, will there be an advantage there for the ABS
37:22
being rested or will they be a little rusty?
37:25
That probably be the first thing I'm looking for.
37:26
And then it'll be the goaltending match not show If
37:29
it's a wild that emerge, you got Volstead and Gustafson.
37:32
If it's the stars, we know it's Ottinger, although Casey
37:34
dismissed certainly played well at times when called upon for
37:37
Dallas. And then it'll just be for
37:39
Colorado. You know, they had Wedgwood and
37:41
Blackwood both going all year long, basically alternating
37:44
starts. And then Wedgwood was excellent
37:45
in the first round series. So but but he's a little
37:48
unproven. So that'll be certainly
37:51
something you'll probably the start of the series and the
37:53
goaltending matchup depending on who comes out.
37:55
Wilder stars be something I'll be looking at.
37:58
Miko, I beg your pardon? Heiskinen, the defenseman, did
38:01
he practice? Apparently he missed practices.
38:04
Is there a concern there if you're a Dallas Star fan, or is
38:06
there just maintenance day for him?
38:08
Do you know anything about what's going on there?
38:12
Yeah, he's kind of just maintenance.
38:13
Yesterday he missed the tail end of the regular season after he
38:17
got hurt in the final game with the Wild in the regular season
38:20
on April the 9th. Came back in time for game one.
38:23
He's logging his normal minutes. They seem to think the stars do
38:25
that. He's getting better by the game,
38:27
get healthier by the day. So he just had a day off
38:30
yesterday. The one change for Dallas will
38:32
be Ilya Labushkin comes in on defense.
38:35
Neil's one quest took a very scary situation.
38:38
Michael McCarron skate cut him. Yeah, it's a deep cut there.
38:43
Glenn Galton, the star set coach said, so you won't play tonight.
38:47
Questionable return, some point in the series for the Wild.
38:50
Matt Zuccarello and Yakov Trentoner game time decisions
38:53
both skated yesterday before the team headed to Dallas.
38:57
Those will be two huge boosts for the Wild and then get either
38:59
of both those guys back. Of course, Zuccarello more
39:02
offensive trending. Obviously a Wrecking Ball out
39:06
there leading the NHL and hits in the regular season.
39:08
So it'll be the first time that either of those players is in
39:12
the lineup. Trenton got hurt early in Game
39:15
2. Zuccarello got hurt but finished
39:16
Game one. So the Wild has kind of gone a
39:19
couple of games here without two of their key pieces up front.
39:22
Both could be returning tonight. I saw an incredible stat, the
39:26
wild since they've made a couple of deep runs some 20 years ago,
39:29
a chance to take either A31 or tonight A32 lead.
39:33
They've had 12 opportunities over the last 18 years.
39:36
They're one in 11 in these kind of, I don't know if that's a
39:40
stat that's been out there in wild community for you, Joe, but
39:43
just crazy. They've had plenty of chances
39:45
like this to take control of a series and have come up short.
39:49
Why was this year? Why does it feel different to
39:51
you this year? Well, just for me personally,
39:54
Trent, I've, you know, the few playoff seasons I've been up
39:57
here for, they've had a 21 series lead and haven't won
40:02
another game. You know, Saint Louis and 22
40:04
Dallas and 23 Vegas last year. You know, 21 series leads.
40:08
You're trying to put your stranglehold on that series.
40:11
And then not only do you not win that next game to go up three
40:14
one. In fact, the wild never had a
40:16
three one series lead in franchise history, but they also
40:18
have won another game the rest of the way.
40:20
So. It was nice to see them respond
40:22
with that game four win against the Stars, right, because Dallas
40:26
could have gone up three one. And then let's be honest, it's
40:29
it's a tough Rd. if that's the case.
40:30
So this year he's been so close to answer your question.
40:35
You know, I think this is a different team.
40:38
You can just tell by their demeanor.
40:39
You know, maybe they've got, you know, some hard lessons they've
40:43
learned in previous playoff years.
40:46
Just felt like, you know, losing double overtime game three could
40:50
have easily, you know, gone the other way in Game 4.
40:53
But they found a way to get W trail trailing in that game,
40:56
tying it up in the third. Just feels like this team is
40:59
more committed. They've learned some lessons
41:02
over the last couple of playoff series that haven't gone their
41:04
way. And they've got a lot of
41:06
veterans in that locker room. You know, that maybe weren't
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part of the Wild the last couple of years, but the guys that have
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been around the block, I think you'll see a committed, really
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competitive Wild team here tonight and the rest of the
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series. And I think they've got a better
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shot now than maybe the last couple years because of their
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depth and just that experience. Joe O'Donnell, radio voice of
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the Minnesota Wild. I know the players try to get a
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nap in the afternoon. Does the radio broadcaster.
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Yeah, get that accomplished here at some point, Kenny.
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Don't you worry about that bro. Could be a late.
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One, yeah, because hopefully, hopefully that's phenomenal,
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phenomenal, phenomenal sport. Good stuff, Joe.
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Thank you, man. Appreciate it.
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We'll talk to you down the road. OK, Joe, thank you for doing
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this. Good to talk to you, Joe Donald,
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radio voice of the Minnesota Wild.
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Good guy, spent some time here in Des Moines.
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Doesn't forget his time here in Des Moines, too.
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Left a lot of friends in the Des Moines area and series is tied
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up at 2 apiece. It gets the ESPN two treatment
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tonight. I saw it.
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What's going on? I have no idea.
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What does ESPN have? Do they have NBA Tonight?
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No, they don't have NBA, I don't believe.
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Shouldn't say that they do they. Go to NBA.
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Yeah, that Trump's it. But guess what?
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It's not going away. I mean, it's still on
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television. Yeah, it is.
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And and you have it on Directvi. Do Trey, yes, we get on two O 9,
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yeah, 'cause TNT's got there's three games tonight, TNT has two
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of them and ESPN 2 has the marquee game of the night for
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Edmonton. Conor Mcdavis game time
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decision. They have no choice.
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They have no chance if he doesn't play.
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I don't think they have a chance if he does play.
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There's teams, they're just tired, they're on fumes.
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You go seven games and lose the Stanley Cup in back-to-back
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years, takes a toll, man. That's a lot of extra hockey.
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So what are they rooting for? What's the final that?
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That the league would want to see.
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Oh, good question. They want, do they want Buffalo
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just because of the story? Maybe, but I don't know.
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Does that Buffalo never wins anything, football or hockey?
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But does that story resonate nationwide?
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It's a fun story. Do they want Sidney Crosby?
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He's a Canadian, right? In a Pittsburgh plays in
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Pittsburgh, obviously. He's a star though.
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He's a *. Vegas, Utah, Philly, Tampa, They
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all in Montreal. Nope.
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The league as a whole when we include Canada, definitely wants
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that. Sure.
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I think now what about the West? Do they want Minnesota or Dallas
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or Colorado? I think Colorado.
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Yeah, I think Colorado, the most marketable I think out of the
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out of the West is Colorado, Colorado against the winner of
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Pittsburgh, Philly. Well, you know what it's liable
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to be. What about what about Colorado?
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Columbus? I mean, Colorado, Carolina.
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And the worst scenario is what's the worst Mammoth versus
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Montreal? Mammoth, Montreal That sounds
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like something completely different than a Stanley Cup
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Final. And it does in a lot of ways,
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although Montreal certainly got a lot of banners, but it's been
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a long time. They are, however, the last team
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from up there to win the Stanley Cup.
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Will take a time out. Trenton, I'll come back, finish
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up the hour. NFL talk to kick off our number
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two NBA talk in the middle of it and then Trent's Plays of the
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day, Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.