Latest / The Avid Indoorsmen / A.I. EP. 212: “Earn This…Earn It” - Saving Private Ryan 25th Anniversary
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- 0:00Dead and Maiden. The sun is shining, not a cloud in the sky.
- 0:05We wouldn't know because we're so happy inside. Some people boot on some
- 0:12skis, but we would rather sit on down and talk some movies. We're
- 0:17the Abbot Indoorsmen. Gun, listen to our show. We're the abod Indoorsmen
- 0:24at home on the go. We're the Avid indoors Man. So come on
- 0:32in and stay. We'll do our best to make you smile. We're indoors
- 0:38man. What is happening? I'm Rob Lundquist and I'm Be and we are
- 0:45the Abbot Indoorsman. We really are. Hello, Hello, how are you,
- 0:49sir? You know I'm doing great, pal. I'm a little a
- 0:53little sniffley today, so folks forgive me if I'm sounding a little stuffy.
- 0:58I don't know if it's a polym or what my deal is, but I
- 1:02don't know. I'm sorry you're going through that. That's okay. I don't
- 1:03feel bad. I just I've been sneezing an awful lot today. It's a
- 1:07really well I didn't yeah, I didn't notice you doing that when we hung
- 1:14out this last weekend. Good job, good job man. That was so
- 1:19fun. Buddy. It was really fun for the listeners. We got together
- 1:26in our old college town of Duluth, Minnesota, crazy and we watched the
- 1:30Bayfront where we were down at Bayfront and we watched Trampled by Turtles, which
- 1:37was kind of awesome. So fun. Man, what a day. Rap.
- 1:42We met up with a bunch of old pals that we haven't seen in
- 1:45so long. I got to hang out with you when we had like nothing
- 1:49really planned, which was kind of fun. It was really fun. We
- 1:53ate a lot, which is not a huge surprise. I felt actually ill
- 1:59at one point, and I was just like, what are we doing to
- 2:00ourselves here? So bad? Because you had to drive home. I bet
- 2:04you were just like I feel like I ate a thousand pounds of dough.
- 2:09I did feel that way, but we did it early early on in the
- 2:14day, and so I was actually okay on the drive home. That is
- 2:17true. I had a lovely evening that night. I camped in my car
- 2:22right along the lake Superior. It was awesome. I bet, Oh,
- 2:27it was so lovely. It was cold. I'm glad I brought a blankie.
- 2:30Yeah, what did it get down to? Like fifty? Yeah?
- 2:35We were staying in so that week in my family, we were staying at
- 2:39my in laws cabin on a lake and we stay in the camper when there's
- 2:46a lot of people there, which there wasn't. One of the nights it
- 2:52got down to like forty five. Well we need to kick that furnace on
- 2:55right. Yep. It was like that was a wee bit chilly, we
- 3:00but yeah, it's it's fun to be back here. I spent about a
- 3:05week and a half up north and it was awesome, but I was like,
- 3:09I need to get back. Yeah, I need to be back to
- 3:12routine, back to everything being where you know, it is totally heating,
- 3:16normal ish things at least that really needed to happen. Yes, same,
- 3:21I gotta lock it down here a little bit again, lock it down really
- 3:24good to go for it. But yes, yeah, yes, yes,
- 3:28but you know, losing weight sometimes can feel like an impossible mission, which
- 3:32just happens to be the movie that I saw most recently, Rob that's amazing.
- 3:38I saw it too. Oh stop it. I actually didn't know if
- 3:40he saw it or not. We haven't really talked about it. I literally
- 3:44watched it yesterday during the day. Fun. Yeah, we're talking about mission
- 3:46impossible. Dead Reckoning Part one, part long title. I look forward to
- 3:52memorizing that for games in the future. Uh yeah, I guess I'll go
- 3:58first. I really liked it. I thought it was great, super action
- 4:01packed, as we've come to expect from all those movies. The like plot
- 4:06is fine, which is really all you need you know from them. Um,
- 4:12Tom Cruise is crazy and like kind of wants to die doing stunts.
- 4:15I guess, I don't know, but he's still super good dude, and
- 4:19he looks great sprinting still, so like, get after it, bro,
- 4:24do what you gotta do. Um. It was a touch long for me
- 4:29at place. It was on the longer side. Yes, yeah, but
- 4:30not like you know, I'm bored, just like I have to pee and
- 4:33like I got places to be. Let's get this thing go, Like how
- 4:36this is a lot of story. Um. But yeah, overall, I
- 4:41think if you like an action movie or any of these mission impossible movies,
- 4:45you're gonna love it. I didn't end up doing the full rewatch, which
- 4:48I wanted to. Um, I only watched one actually, and then just
- 4:54was like, I'm not gonna be around enough to make this happen, so
- 4:58I'll watch it for a part two, which will be the next one.
- 5:00Honestly, though, I don't think you really need to. Yeah, I
- 5:02really don't. I don't think so. Either they're not like super connected or
- 5:06other than the people. But I knew all the people were in it.
- 5:10I knew many people. Yeah, they explained like what they're doing there,
- 5:13and they lead people along they know not everyone has seen all these recently.
- 5:17I feel like, so, yeah, yeah, I really liked it.
- 5:19What did you think of it? Almost the exact same take. I think
- 5:26I really liked it, So I don't know if you really liked it.
- 5:29Um, I really like it. I always want a little bit more plot
- 5:33from those Mission Impossible movies than they want to give me, which I think
- 5:36is unfair in some ways, but I still do kind of want it.
- 5:42So it's maybe it's part of the It's part of the whole thing right now
- 5:46with AI taking over, that's like the main plot, yes, rum,
- 5:49which is you know, which is everybody's kind of doing that. Yeah.
- 5:55Yeah, But I was very impressed with the cast. M Haley at Well
- 6:00was awesome, pretty great addition to the Mission Impossible squad. Yeah, and
- 6:06it was really fun seeing Palm Clementeeth do like a like a nasty role.
- 6:13She was brutal and I did not see that coming. So that was received
- 6:17her face for most of it, Like it was, Yeah, that was
- 6:20super cool. I think she's really good. Continues to do Yeah, yeah,
- 6:27I think she's great for sure. So I was all about it and
- 6:30I'm I'm very excited to see the next one. And yeah, man,
- 6:33you see all these stunts that he does, Like they usually talk about it
- 6:38a lot, but it's still so impressive once you are actually there in the
- 6:44theater watching it. Well, and we went to uh it was like a
- 6:47I don't know post like made us reservations for an early early one because we
- 6:50didn't Monday night or something. Yeah, so they had like videos of it
- 6:55beforehand of like how it was made and stuff some like caeser stuff, and
- 6:59that was really neat to see because it's, yeah, it's crazy, dude.
- 7:02Everything they had to put into these is just wild. It is.
- 7:06And I've also heard, um, I think it was on the Simon peg
- 7:11SmartLess episode they were talking about how they don't really have the script completely down
- 7:16while they're filming. I just listened to that as well. That blew my
- 7:19mind. Yeah, and also maybe be like, well, maybe I shouldn't
- 7:24expect someone from the plot, you know, like because clearly they're thinking about
- 7:28it, but they kind of just let it come to them. That's really
- 7:30cool. It's crazy, man. It's kind of reminded me of die Hard
- 7:33because it sounded like they were making stuff up shooting. That's a full time
- 7:39too, you know. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. That's what
- 7:42the plan is on these Mission Impossible movies. And that's just they can do
- 7:46that. That's pretty neat. Although who knows. Now everybody's on strike now,
- 7:50so at least adds of recording this, so like, yes, and
- 7:55I don't think they I don't think they started filming already or anything, right,
- 7:59so they gonna have to. I couldn't tell you. Yeah, I
- 8:01mean they're gonna. It's gonna be at least a little bit. Yeah,
- 8:05bummer. Hopefully good for them. Get get get money you deserve. I
- 8:09saw some tweets that were like they wanted background people to just be able to
- 8:13be like fully scanned and then in one day of shooting and then they own
- 8:18the rights to their image and that in likeness for all time in future movies.
- 8:22And I was like Okay, that's that's a little wild, guys,
- 8:26let's calm down on that. Holy cow. Yikes. Yeah, pretty well,
- 8:31anyway, nobody cares about my thoughts on that. Well, I care
- 8:35about your thoughts about what The last thing you were streaming was Oh my gosh,
- 8:39so nice. Well this came directly from you. You told me I
- 8:43would love this show, and dad gum at, you're correct. I watched
- 8:46Platonic on the CV plus. Yeah, I've seen the whole thing now.
- 8:52It worked out very nicely for me. I still I'm the last one I
- 8:56watched is episode seven. How many more are there? I think there's ten?
- 9:01Cool, I don't actually know that for sure, but I adore this
- 9:05show. I think Rose Byrne might be the funniest person on earth. Like,
- 9:09I love her so much. She's so great. Can I know that?
- 9:13People that I haven't seen it are not gonna like this aside, But
- 9:16when she when she gets her job at the lawyer's office and what happened to
- 9:26where she doesn't have it for very long? That episode was so cringey and
- 9:31hard to watch you feel embarrassed for her. It was incredible. Yeah,
- 9:37a lot of like why are you doing this? Stop us stop. Just
- 9:41tell them it was an accident. That's all I have to do. But
- 9:46it's so funny, dude, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Hysterical. I
- 9:48love it. Their chemistry is so great. I loved all the like all
- 9:52their folks that were in it, which I think you even said to you
- 9:56were like, I didn't really know a lot of them other than her best
- 9:58friend is in Super Bad, right, Yeah, she's been in a few
- 10:03of those. Yeah. I think her name's Carla Gallo and she she showed
- 10:07up a few times. She's spot I like her a lot. I hope
- 10:09she keeps getting to do stuff like, well, this is like the biggest
- 10:13role I've ever seen her. Same, and she was delightful. So hopefully.
- 10:18But yeah, you're gonna love the ending. It's really fun um and
- 10:22yeah, I just I really liked the show. It doesn't I don't know.
- 10:26It's just a beautiful I just love it. I think it's great.
- 10:28I think it's true to life and also just very silly and fun. Nice.
- 10:33Yeah, yeah, for sure. What have you been streaming? I
- 10:37went over to the Disney Plus machine and I watched Raiders of the Last Dark
- 10:41Temple of Doom in the Last Crusade to get ready for the Dial of Destiny.
- 10:46Oh nice. Um, I did not watch Crystal Skull yet. I'm
- 10:52not sure if I will, but yeah, I probably so good is it?
- 10:58No, it's it's I remember I saw it in The Hater and I
- 11:01didn't need it as much as everyone hated it. But it wasn't good like
- 11:05it? Yeah? Um, and hot take, I don't think I ever
- 11:09saw a Temple of Doom. What. I watched it and I was like,
- 11:15I don't think I've ever seen this movie. Really, Yeah, I
- 11:18think I saw Raiders in the Last Crusade. That's okay. Temple is my
- 11:24other than Crystal Skull, my least favorite. Agreed, Yeah, I would
- 11:28have that exact same, yeah, agreement there, and I will talk about
- 11:31this later, but I think it is also behind the newest one. I've
- 11:35said too much. You've said too much. I said too much. Yeah,
- 11:41I'm excited for Dial of Destiny now, Yeah, very very fun.
- 11:45I've seen a lot of like things on the new one and I'm excited for
- 11:48it. So yeah, you'll you'll have a nice time and we'll talk more
- 11:52about that next time for sure. Together. But what do you think should
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- 13:03a top five draft on there that pertains to the movie we're talking about.
- 13:07And for this one, we're doing our top five favorite World War two films.
- 13:13That's gonna be fun. There's a lot to choose from. Some tricksters
- 13:16in there. Well I get mine are a very not trickster, but I
- 13:22don't remember because I don't remember what I put. But I'm gonna pretend there's
- 13:26tricksters. So yeah, coming attractions. Next film we'll be talking about is
- 13:31We're the Millers pretty much, you know, Saving Private Ryan that we're the
- 13:35Millers. It's the same pame, same fame. It is the sorbet to
- 13:39cleanse all of our palettes after we sob to death today. So we'll see,
- 13:46we'll see what happens. But that should be super fun. So stay
- 13:48tuned for that. If you want to pre watch it, get it after
- 13:52it got But we're here today to talk about Saving Private Ryan has previously discussed
- 13:58it is the question Mark anniversary Rob I don't remember twenty five twenty five years
- 14:05nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, suppes, that makes sense. Twenty five years.
- 14:09Dang crazy and it's going to be super fun to talk about. And
- 14:11we decided we needed a salty old dog to come in here with us,
- 14:15our old pal from back in the day. You guys know him and love
- 14:18him. Welcome back, Eric, pat Node, what's up buddy? Hello,
- 14:24How good to see in. Thanks you guys. I'm really happy to
- 14:28be back on. Yeah, man, I feel happy have you. We
- 14:31have you on for pretty intense movies. Yeah that is true. Huh.
- 14:37Yeah. The last one was Unforgiven, yeah, which I hadn't seen,
- 14:41which was a brand new movie for me. This one, yeah, I
- 14:43had seen it a long time ago, probably when it came out, so
- 14:46I had a few preconceived notions about it. But it was fun to watch.
- 14:50Great, great excuse to watch it again. So lovely man. How's
- 14:54life everything good? Yeah? Guess I think it was about a year ago.
- 15:00I don't know exactly when, maybe August that we did our last podcast.
- 15:03So since then, my newest son, Soren is now over one year
- 15:11one year old, exciting, and I have a graduated senior eighteen year old
- 15:16daughter as well. The ages on that that's really spread out, I know,
- 15:22right. But other than that, just working at General Mills making the
- 15:26cheerios for you guys or what everybody bugles, What do you guys eat the
- 15:31General Mills Nature Valley Valley, We definitely get good. I was scared.
- 15:39I don't it was sugar cereals anymore because well, I'm like, it's the
- 15:43healthy ones though, don't they they do. I can't be trust fiber one
- 15:48is the problem. Fiber one. I mean cheerios, plane old cheerios is
- 15:52healthy. There's barely any sugar and cheerot sugar on a cheerio if I'm having
- 15:56a cheerio, like I know, I know who I am. Nut was
- 16:00my jam back in the day. Oh yeah, my mom my momster likes
- 16:04them. That's sure likes. At some point, like ten years ago or
- 16:07something like that, honeynut cheerios did surpass cheerios as the best selling cereal in
- 16:14America. Yeah, I get that. I think we have number one.
- 16:15Two. I've never had it part. What's number two? Yeah, I
- 16:21was gonna say. I mean it was cheerios and honey nut cheerios. That
- 16:25is okay, Wow cool. I don't know what the next cereal is.
- 16:29It's probably not General Mills. It's probably like, I don't know, oh,
- 16:33Prosted flakes or something like that. I like a Prosted flake, but
- 16:37I don't. I don't admire the company at all. No, no,
- 16:40no, we can all agree with that. Keggs, I don't know.
- 16:44I just was trying to go General Mills, like, we love General Mills.
- 16:48I like, yeah, generally in favor of killings stinks. Yeah,
- 16:53dumb Kelloggs. Which idiots? Germans? Yes, like the Germans who were
- 17:03heavily featured in today's film, Saving Private Ryan. I love it. We
- 17:08did out there, We got there right. But yeah, I think we
- 17:12should get started chatting about this, Rob, Why don't you get us started?
- 17:15It was just a rough synopsis, okay. Captain John Miller takes his
- 17:19men behind enemy lines to find Private James Ryan, whose three brothers have been
- 17:25killed in combat. Surrounded by the brutal realities of war. While searching for
- 17:29Ryan, each man embarks upon a personal journey and discovers their own strength to
- 17:33triumph over an uncertain future with honor, decency, and courage. Nice decency.
- 17:44I like that. Let's go to Rotten's mottoes and hear what they have
- 17:47to say. Critics have this coming in at a rock solid really yeah,
- 17:52that's real good. That's real good, and audience members one tick above that
- 17:56at ninety five. I kind of I kind of thought that for this movie.
- 18:00It really did. I'm I'm also like a tiny bits of who is
- 18:04not liking this movie? What part of it is not? I mean people
- 18:08that are not into violence and seeing gory things there is, I mean it's
- 18:12intense, dude, that is true. At first half hour is hard to
- 18:18watch. I read a little blurb about that this movie actually would have been
- 18:25NC seventeen, but there's this like rule or something like a masterpiece rule that
- 18:30allows something that's beyond Rated R to be classified as rated R if it likes
- 18:37high enough, has high enough artistic standards or integritithing. Yeah, because I
- 18:42mean yeah parts. And I read something also that like he wasn't going to
- 18:49change it. He was like, if they give me NC seventeen, We're
- 18:52going with NC seventeen. I don't care. I'm not shirls and swirls like
- 18:56we're going for it. Very similar vibes. Uh, well, let's go
- 19:00in and talk about what we think about this movie. It's time for our
- 19:04hot take. Hot take. Oh, very spicy, that's a hot take.
- 19:12That's a hot take. The whispering out really got me. I liked
- 19:18that a lot. I will go first on this with my hot take.
- 19:22I think this movie is phenomenal. If it was, you know, on
- 19:26a baking show, we would call it a triumph. Uh. It's fantastic,
- 19:30and it does something that I didn't appreciate enough before, I think on
- 19:34previous rewatches. It starts obviously, well we have like a little bit of
- 19:38a prelude with the walking to the to the cemetery, but it starts with
- 19:44this massive, like set piece battle scene that took weeks and weeks to film,
- 19:48and you know, it's it's insane. Like we said, those first
- 19:52thirty minutes are wild, and then it has some of the like most personal
- 19:57person to person in or action scenes that are the smallest and the most beautiful
- 20:03and like the most fragile and lovely, and then ends with another massive scene
- 20:07after that, and I just think, I don't know that a lot of
- 20:10movies can do that can sort of bring us on that those huge swings of
- 20:15accomplishing really definitely all these different kinds of movie making, and I think that's
- 20:19super gorgeous and lovely. I have my own feelings about this. The older
- 20:25I get, the more I'm like, any movie that depicts war makes me
- 20:29a little squeamish because I get scared that people are going to be like,
- 20:32oh, this is like it. We're kind of romanticizing it a little bit.
- 20:34I understand that this is a very brutal depiction of war, though,
- 20:38so like, you know, it's just my own personal stuff coming into things.
- 20:44But yeah, I just think this movie is perfectly acted. The music
- 20:48and the score is all phenomenal. It's just yeah, well, yeah,
- 20:53tell me. I'm sorry. I was just gonna say this is like one
- 20:56of the few John william scores where I really like, I can't, like
- 21:00tell you a theme, Yeah I can't. I agree with that. I
- 21:03was going to challenge you guys, like, hum the hum the theme of
- 21:06John William I can't do that. But it is still lovely. I found
- 21:08myself like, listening back to it a couple of times, I rewound a
- 21:11couple of scenes I'm just to listen, and I was like, okay,
- 21:15yeah, it's still beautiful. I'm guessing that that had to be on purpose.
- 21:18I think having a strong theme wouldn't have fit, like it would have
- 21:22felt like you're capitalizing too much on like the paint. I don't know,
- 21:27but I guess There's list had a theme so and it was so beautiful.
- 21:32Yeah, and that didn't take away Yeah you're I don't Yeah, I wonder
- 21:37I wonder if you wanted to like not take over, or or maybe just
- 21:41the crazy scenes where the theme would have been really active were just so crazy
- 21:47that he was like, well, it doesn't eat it, or it was
- 21:48overshadowed. I'm not sure. It's a good question. The stuff I heard
- 21:52I did really like, obviously, um, but yeah, I also just
- 21:56I just love that we showed a pretty wide range of humanity in this Even
- 22:02the people who are heroes are dirt bags at one point or another. We're
- 22:04all callous in our own way, but we're also all very beautiful and care
- 22:08about each other in a lot of other ways too, And I think it
- 22:11showed a real nice cross section of humanity in both the good and bad.
- 22:18And yeah, I guess I just overall, my hottest take is I love
- 22:22this movie. I think it's fantastic. Oh man, that's hot. Hot
- 22:26Hot Take. I have always thought this movie was a masterpiece. It is
- 22:30currently number twenty four on IMDb's Top two fifty Nice. It was nominated for
- 22:37five Oscars, Best Original Screenplay, Best Cinematography, Best Actor, Director,
- 22:41and Best Picture. It won two for Cinematography and director two lost. Yeah,
- 22:48the only one to two, which is surprising. It lost to Shakespeare
- 22:52in Love for Best Picture, which, in hindsight is crazy. I feel
- 22:56like it is that all the one of the biggest snow. Yes, and
- 23:00I do think a great top five would be movies that should have won Best
- 23:04Picture that yes we should. Tree of Life, I don't think so Tree
- 23:12Watch list, But yeah, I love this movie. How Spielberg and Yanush
- 23:21Kaminski shot this is masterful. There are a few shots in this that I
- 23:25completely geek out about. That landing on O Muhamma Beach is unbelievable. All
- 23:30of that's incredible, but there are a few shots that have stuck with me
- 23:33throughout the movie. We get that wide shot when they're waiting to see if
- 23:37the tanks will come down the road that they planned for them to come down,
- 23:41and you can like barely see the tanks in the distance and all of
- 23:45that tension that brings the scene with that completely still wide shot is so effective.
- 23:52And that entire Bell Tower scene with Barry Pepper when he's switching from the
- 23:56scope in this like to snipe all these dudes and then back to his face
- 24:00when he's like praying out loud, and then we slowly we get to see
- 24:04the tank that slowly pans up to the tower. Yeah. I just love
- 24:07it so much. But I love the actors they got in this, even
- 24:12small roles from Ted Danson and Paul Jaboti and Denistrated. Everybody crushed it yea.
- 24:19And I thought it was written beautifully by a guy named Robert Rodat,
- 24:22who also wrote The Patriot, which I like. He also wrote one of
- 24:27the worst Marvel movies, thor Dark World. Oh yeah, yeah. But
- 24:34I loved how he peppered in the captain's backstory and how there was a bet
- 24:38to see who could get him to talk about his life before the war.
- 24:42I also loved the recurring like fo bar Bit with up him not knowing it.
- 24:47I just I thought he did a lot of really cool things. I
- 24:49adore this film. My hot take, I have one kind of cringe e
- 24:55part in this movie that I've always felt, Oh, I hope it's a
- 24:59cringing mine. It's Tom Hanks have to do with saving Pevate Ryan Ryan himself,
- 25:04it has to do with Private Ryan. So I realize this is super
- 25:07nitpicky, but it comes from Matt Damon. It's a beautiful scene and was
- 25:14written great, but I don't believe Matt Damon when he is telling the story
- 25:18about his brothers to Tom Hanks. Yes, and it's not like the whole
- 25:22time, it's just when he's getting to the end of the story laughing while
- 25:27talking, it feels like I'm watching someone who has memorized monologue and I'm watching
- 25:33like an acting class. Like it takes me out. Guess what I read
- 25:37about that? It was that was completely uh, that was completely unscripted.
- 25:41He was making it all up, were doing it off the cuff. Well,
- 25:45it feels not generally, it caught me out of the movie, like
- 25:49probably the only time where I was like really, same, same, And
- 25:53I felt that way every time that I've seen it, because like, part
- 25:57of it's great, but it's just when he's like it's it feels like it's
- 26:02a rehearsed like I'm gonna laugh in this spot. It's just it's weird.
- 26:07It's really weird. Did you read anything about that, bugs, because I
- 26:11read something about that that helped helped me with the scene make it more palatable.
- 26:14Did you read it? No, I don't think so. So the
- 26:18cast hated it too, apparently, and or they were like, yeah,
- 26:22they're gonna have to redo that. But Spielberg thought of it like it was
- 26:26just like an unformed young man, if about his age, would act and
- 26:30some kind of a story that like a stupid nineteen year old would tell.
- 26:36And then I thought about, you know what, that's kind of true,
- 26:38like what I'm seeing as Matt Damon, and I want Matt Damon to give
- 26:42a performance that's worthy of Matt Damon, sort of like he's gonna be cool
- 26:48or he's gonna But if you think about it that way, that no,
- 26:52this is going to be an awkward story that's not well delivered by like a
- 26:56barely a you know, graduated teenager. Then I thought, well, I
- 26:59can why they kept it, but it still took me out of the movie,
- 27:02and I agree with I don't like it. To find myself thinking that
- 27:07I thought it was like a good example of how grief is sort of like
- 27:11it's sneaking about how it shows up. You know, I don't think you
- 27:15guys are wrong, But it's just the line reading. It's how he it's
- 27:21how he does it. And I love after he says that he's ends,
- 27:26like, oh man, that was that was the last the last time I
- 27:29saw him before we all had to go or my brother went to basic or
- 27:32whatever. Um, And I thought Tom Hanks was great opposite him. It's
- 27:37a great scene, but that line reading takes me out every time. I
- 27:41gotta go rewatch this now and see if I like really zero in on it.
- 27:47Yeah, it's and I've just I love that there's that bit though I
- 27:49didn't know that trivia because I've always felt that every time I've seen this movie,
- 27:55I'm like, what, why am I feeling gross? All of a
- 27:56sudden? That was your and I was so sad from cast Away from Kay
- 28:02exactly. It was the same kind. Huh. That's funny. I love
- 28:07huh. So that's my that's my hot take. Hot take. Rob hated
- 28:11this film. I love this movie so bro Nazi take from Rob. I
- 28:17don't know, I'm just kidding. That is not our clip. I get
- 28:21to pick the clips that is not our clip. I might cut it up
- 28:25from the pot. I already feel bad about it. Hot take, Bunny,
- 28:27hot take? Uh, Pat Node, what do you think? What's
- 28:30your hot? Well? Yeah, I don't. I don't disagree with you,
- 28:34guys, I really I guess. First off, watching that first twenty
- 28:40five minutes scene, um, yeah, like you just feel you feel sick,
- 28:45you feel awful, you feel kind of disgusted, you feel like you're
- 28:49in shock a little bit. And and I had myself or I was wondering
- 28:55to myself during that. I think it's like twenty five minutes like could it
- 28:59really have been? And this bad? Like and I'm sure it was,
- 29:03if not worse. Yeah, into the degree that this movie making gets you
- 29:10into that to have some empathy and some you know, yes, some some
- 29:15sort of experience a little bit, what if it's you know, what I've
- 29:18been like to be in in a warlike that or any war, and then
- 29:21maybe to also then have some empathy for anything like PTSD where imagine if you
- 29:26were just exposed to that kind of trauma for days and days and days and
- 29:32how it would just unwrite a lot of your brain. But so, yeah,
- 29:34I agree, it's crazy to go into that scene and just watch the
- 29:37complete like industrial war machine in humanity of it all. But then to see
- 29:44outside of that and after that war finally kind of subsides, to to see
- 29:49like the little grass shoots of you know, humanity coming back between the soldiers
- 29:55and their friendships and trying to hold those bonds together and soul, make jokes
- 29:59and still you know, show some love, compassion, care and all of
- 30:03it. I mean, and even too with the German soldier scene, which
- 30:07and ultimately turns out to be kind of a difficult twist when he you know,
- 30:14that actually is probably one of my harder moments. Like I don't know
- 30:17if up him. I felt like I felt uncomfortable that he shot him at
- 30:22the end, I got it. I mean, sometimes revenge feels good,
- 30:26and he certainly maybe deserved it, but it just that felt weird to me.
- 30:32It felt like he is like innocence was dying in that moment. Yeah,
- 30:36that's like what that was supposed to show or something maybe, Yeah,
- 30:37and I think that happens and it was probably very realistic. There was part
- 30:42of me, though, that wanted him to be that sort of hero that
- 30:48never never, I will say, I do have a little bit of trivia
- 30:52later on about that scene that might shift that a tiny Oh yeah, so
- 30:56we can talk more, or maybe you read it, but yeah, I
- 30:59hear you. I read a little bit about other casting decisions in the movie,
- 31:03and I guess it was going to be like Mel Gibson or who else
- 31:07was it? Harrison Ford? Yeah? Wow? And I'm actually not like
- 31:11a huge Tom Hanks fan necessarily. I mean, I love him, he's
- 31:15great, and I love a lot of the movies he's in. But I
- 31:19do think like this was the perfect casting for this role. Like Mel Gibson,
- 31:26he would have been too masculine, too strong, basically Harrison Ford,
- 31:33I just think. I mean, he's great, but again, he's got
- 31:36that cocky something to him or whatever. Tom Hanks just has this soft like
- 31:41you can believe that he was an English teacher. Yes, and there's something
- 31:48really special about having a man like him in that role because he is tough,
- 31:52he is a good commander or whatever his role is, but he's also
- 31:56like, I don't know, you can just imagine it is your English teacher,
- 32:00and then that just puts that just puts that, you know, that
- 32:04relief of wartime and peacetime sort of there and kind of accentuates some of the
- 32:08stuff that he says about who he was before the war and saw super good
- 32:14casting and I think probably one of his best movies, if maybe not his
- 32:16best. And he yeah, and he lost out to Roberto Benini, right,
- 32:20is that right? For that beautiful Yeah, which is crazy because maybe
- 32:24that was actually appropriate because that performance by for Benini was pretty awesome. Yeah,
- 32:30but I would have I would definitely have said that given him a third
- 32:35Oscar. Yeah, so yeah, I mean, I don't know if there
- 32:39are many better war movies in terms of yeah, just that sharp relief of
- 32:45the nasty in humanity of it, but the karaderie and the brotherhood. So
- 32:50yeah, I love it. And it has aged well, Like there was
- 32:53nothing about this movie that felt like it was twenty five years old, or
- 32:57however it was. It still still plays. Is great. The effects and
- 33:02everything are wonderful. So right, because it's all practical, right, I
- 33:07mean, for the or at least the great amount of it's all practical.
- 33:10Pretty straight. That helps, But yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I
- 33:14love it. That's a great take. Man. Well you were talking about
- 33:17Tom hanks performance. I feel like we should all say what our favorite acting
- 33:22performance is, and let's pick the dude, dude, the dude, the
- 33:27dud an I'm the dude, so that's what you call me, you know
- 33:31that? Or his dude nous or duder or you know, l dud reno.
- 33:37If you're not into the whole brevity thing, Pat note who you got
- 33:40for the dude? I was. I was thinking about this during the moment.
- 33:44I didn't want to pick Tom Hanks just because you know, it's kind
- 33:47of obvious. I mean, my favorite character overall was Barry Pepper. What's
- 33:52the what's the what's his character's name? Oh? Yeah, what is the
- 33:55dude's name? Barry Pepper's name is Private Jackson at Jackson Hanks, And yeah,
- 34:00I don't know. He was. He was sort of my favorite.
- 34:04Maybe it's a little bit of the comic relief or whatever, not necessarily the
- 34:07best actor. Tom Sizemore was up there too, like some of the scenes
- 34:12that he had with Tom Hanks where the critical, yes, like humanity scenes
- 34:17where you just you know, I identify. But yeah, I mean I
- 34:22gotta give it to Tom Hanks for sure. I'm with you. I'm with
- 34:27you. I had to give it to Tom Hanks, and I also can't
- 34:30really imagine a better actor for that role. It was pretty complicated role.
- 34:35He needed to be respected, need to be a leader for these men.
- 34:37When you can tell that he didn't really believe in the mission they were carrying
- 34:42out, but then he comes around and ends up giving his life for the
- 34:47mission. I thought he was wonderful and in a film with really really great
- 34:52performances, I thought he's shown the brightest. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
- 34:57that's a clean sweep all the reasons you I said. I just thought
- 35:00I loved those spots, like you guys both said, where he was unsure
- 35:06but had to sort of act the part. He had to play his part,
- 35:09at least when he was around the other the other guys, because he
- 35:15sort of saw that, you know, they were drawing some strength off of
- 35:20him, even if it was you know, we have to kind of hate
- 35:23this guy because he's telling us to go do it, you know what I
- 35:27mean. Like, I felt like he took on that responsibility, and I
- 35:31just I thought he did that super well. So yeah, Tom Hanks,
- 35:35forever clean, sweet, clean, sweet. Let's go and talk about the
- 35:38rest of these folks. Let's name the Tucci Ucci, What what do you
- 35:45have for that one? Pat Note, Uh, well, not Stanley Tucci,
- 35:49although he probably was in the cast somewhere. Yeah, he's probably one
- 35:53of the extras. He was driving one of the tanks. I think.
- 35:57Yeah, for me, that's hard. That's hard. Um, I think
- 36:04I think I'll have to give it to Even though even though Private Jackson or
- 36:08Barry Pepper was maybe my favorite character that just kind of helped keep me like
- 36:14grounded in sort of the humanity of the film, I think size more.
- 36:20I mean, for one, he's just he just looks kind of like a
- 36:22mafia boss a little bit, and so so so when you see his honesty
- 36:27and tenderness coming out in those scenes to his superior, and his superior wants
- 36:31his humanity and basically asked him like those those are some heartbreaking and beautiful scenes
- 36:37and I think he really nails nails those. So I'd probably give it to
- 36:42Sizemore. I am right there with you. I was really debating giving him
- 36:47the dust, like because this is for sure my favorite thing Tom Sizemore has
- 36:53done, and he's done He's done some really cool things. Um, but
- 36:58man, those scenes that those pivotal scenes you were talking about. He was
- 37:01so good in. But when he gets shot and then just throws his empty
- 37:06pistol at the dead guy him, he's just pissed. Man. Yeah,
- 37:12he's so mad about it, you know. It was so good man.
- 37:15And he chucks his helmet at that one dude. And that scene before he
- 37:19gets shot too, the other guy chucks his helmet and he's like, you
- 37:22know, yeah, so amazing. I was really into him. But to
- 37:27mention somebody else, I think my runner up is Edward Burns his private ribin.
- 37:34I always laugh whenever he comes up because my dad cannot stand his voice.
- 37:37He has this like kind of high, weird voice, and my Dad's
- 37:42like, it's such a weird get him out of here. I hate it.
- 37:45But I thought he played his role very well. He was the guy
- 37:49that disagreed with what they were doing in the first place, and when his
- 37:55guys start dying carrying out the mission, he hits breaking point. They have
- 38:00that yeah incident. Yeah. I just said I thought he was great,
- 38:06and he had a lot of the comic relief, which I always enjoy.
- 38:10That he was one of the he was one of the actors that I was
- 38:15like everybody else I could place their face in a different show or a different
- 38:19movie almost, but not so much him. I don't know if I might
- 38:22have been one of the lesser known actors in the whole cast. Yeah,
- 38:27I mean he's been in some things. He's been in one of Biggs's favorite
- 38:30rom coms called The Holiday. Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot he was
- 38:35in that. He was in that, and I've seen him in a few
- 38:38other things. But yeah, yeah, he's all right, for sure.
- 38:43He was good good. I think I would pick well, I'd probably pick
- 38:47the guys you guys did, but to say someone else, Giovanni Rubisi I
- 38:52thought was lovely. Yes, he's my third number three again, Like you
- 38:59know, you sort of alluded to it. Pat Node would be like we
- 39:01wanted the one guy what was his name, Jeremy Davies up to be like
- 39:07that sort of astant rock paragon of what we want things to be, you
- 39:12know, But um, I think I sort of felt that way about Giovanni
- 39:16Ribisi as well. Like he he he just wanted to help, you know,
- 39:22and and like I just really loved him, and that scene he gets
- 39:27where he after he gets shot is I'm a phenomenal the hardest boof for me
- 39:35throughout the bo second hardest booth right. Um. But I also loved his
- 39:40monologue in the in the church where he's talking about like, why why did
- 39:45I not just wake up and talk to my mom? We just wanted to
- 39:50know my story. So I don't even really know what that story is supposed
- 39:54to tell us, but grant it makes me feel so many things. Yeah,
- 40:00and his how he acted that out and it was beautiful, perfect,
- 40:05great cho Yeah, I really, I mean I like him in everything basically,
- 40:08but man, he's so good in this. He picks a lot of
- 40:12really weird roles and this one, this is my favorite. I'll say this
- 40:19is almost like the like least weird role. Seriously yea, like great roll
- 40:24or whatever. Um and then shout out, Rob you said it. The
- 40:29like cameos from the like higher ups that sort of send them on their way.
- 40:34Ted Danson was awesome seeing him for a hot minute, and they weren't
- 40:37distracting cameos somehow either from that weird maybe it was back in ninety seven or
- 40:45whenever, but but now it didn't feel that way. They didn't feel like
- 40:50token cameos. It just felt like actors. Well and he actually like added
- 40:54a bit to the movie because now we have somebody on the side of hey,
- 40:58we need to he should go back to his mom, like, you
- 41:01know, get him back home. It's where you needed more of that,
- 41:05because it seemed like most people are like, dude, we're all dying to
- 41:07go get this. We can all be against this or whatever. He in
- 41:12particular was. It was good to have him in there. Totally. Paul
- 41:15Giamatti in one of those roles. He was pretty fun. Yeah, he
- 41:19was just kind of being crazy out there. I might have missed the fact
- 41:22that it was Paul Giamatti if I didn't kind of already know that he was
- 41:25in there. Sure, Sure, it took me a while to even notice
- 41:29that that was him, and then I kind of I could hear the voice,
- 41:30since you can hear his voice for sure. Yeah, totally, yeah,
- 41:35totally, super super fun. There's so many more. Dennis Farina came
- 41:38in for a little bit him. I love, always loved him. Nathan
- 41:43Phillion has such a great little cameo. This is before he was Yes,
- 41:51yes, exactly, Yes, I love that scene. That scene is so
- 41:54rough. Minnesota, Ryan, Yes, Minnesota Ryan, I've got Brian Cranston
- 42:00was in it. Yeah, I didn't even know that same. Remember the
- 42:05Titans is in it too. I forgot to look at van Hurst. Is
- 42:07his name? Thank you? Thank you? He needs to speak up.
- 42:13No, no, James Francis Ryan for beating everything he's saying. Oh,
- 42:17it's so funny. The chief of staff for the White House is or whatever
- 42:22it is. M. Harvey Presnell is his name from. But he's been
- 42:25Yes, your dad, Yes, it's a good call. I's a great
- 42:32speech too, right, Yeah, it's good. I couldn't I couldn't look
- 42:37that. That was actually the most distracting role in the whole movie for me,
- 42:39because Fargo is my favorite movie of all time, and his role in
- 42:44Fargo is so epic and how stoic and just you know, like he has
- 42:49no humanity in that movie. He's just a complete like businessman who doesn't have
- 42:52any empathy or care for anyone. So in this, in this scene where
- 42:57he actually like his heart goes out, Yeah, that's not that's not I
- 43:00don't buy I love that. And then it was really fun seeing Vin Diesel.
- 43:08This is like the first thing I ever saw him in and he was
- 43:13great. Yeah, he was really good in it. Yeah. The only
- 43:15other guy we didn't mention was Adam Goldberg him at all. Yeah, Yeah,
- 43:22and it's I thought he did great. I thought it was really fun,
- 43:27really fun part to have to have sort of that guy of Jewish faith
- 43:31be there and sort of have that yeah the edge of things as well,
- 43:36you know, like that's that's in his death scene is so I was I
- 43:42don't I didn't remember that, and I did not expect for it to end
- 43:45that way. Yeah, so brutal man when he's just yeah, Davies is
- 43:51just there with all that AMMO, just like he could. Yeah, that's
- 43:55like the hardest part of the movie for me to watch, like just yea
- 44:00dude, go up there, help him out, like that last moment where
- 44:05he's like no, no, no, stop stop stop stop, like we'll
- 44:07work it out. You know. It's just like, yeah, I suppose
- 44:10though that that just brings out the reality of the ambiguity of war. And
- 44:15I mean not everybody's a hero every every moment, and sometimes you sometimes you
- 44:22just you just are color just a coward, you just lose it. So
- 44:28yeah, and then I I never really I didn't quite understand what the what
- 44:30the deal was with the German soldier then walking down the street right past up
- 44:35him just m oh, these guy's got bullets all over his neck and he's
- 44:38just gonna love him alone. I thought that was so Yeah. I thought
- 44:43it was supposed to be like, you're not a threat to me. Yeah,
- 44:46well, like partly that and partly him being like, I listen,
- 44:51I just want to get out of here. That's the only reason I did
- 44:53that, to like some extent, and also him being shook by giving having
- 44:59to kill someone that way. I mean, it's one thing, right,
- 45:02Yeah, it's one thing with shooting at someone. I mean, obviously that
- 45:07would still be a lot, but it's different up close and personal. I
- 45:10have to imagine. I hope I never find out. Obviously, I can't
- 45:15imagine I would win in any fight. I'm pretty sure that if you got
- 45:19shot, you'd be just like Sizemar though my weapon at him. Yeah,
- 45:29it would take a lot of bullets turning me down. I'm a big man.
- 45:31You would just started singing, just started scared everybody. That's good.
- 45:43But yeah, that's everybody in the movie. That's everybody. It's such a
- 45:45great cast. Crazy again, let's talk about some of our favorite scenes it's
- 45:51time to name the da Das Dings is quite simple. Really ingas Dings.
- 45:58I could talk about my dingas all I longed to dam By the way,
- 46:01I should know this, forget the reason why it's named the Dinghis. It
- 46:07comes from our buddy Max who when we had him on for The Hateful Eight.
- 46:13Yes, our favorite scene in that was the monologue where Samuel Jackson talks
- 46:19about his dinghis for some time, and it was like, it would be
- 46:22so funny if you just name this award the Dinghis after because I'm talking about
- 46:27like, I think it has to be the Dinga scene, and he was
- 46:30like on board. So the Dingus, Pat Node, what do you have
- 46:38for your favorite scene? Tough one, Yeah, there was something early special.
- 46:47Maybe it's because I'm a dad, and then this one's not gonna be
- 46:50anyone else's favorite scene, I don't think. But when Vin Diesel takes the
- 46:53girl and then and then you know, all the chaos and sues, he
- 46:58ends up losing his life. But when when the girl goes back to the
- 47:00father and she slaps him, and she's slapping him, she's angry at her
- 47:05father for trying to save her, that just it just it kind of made
- 47:09me cry and laugh at the same time because it's you know, you know
- 47:13why she's mad, but you know, you know, it's it's just such
- 47:15a beautiful, complicated little vignette that I'd love that little part. That's one
- 47:21of my favorite anyway. Yeah, that's definitely that whole scene is is a
- 47:28runner up for me. And I mean, if we're taking out the big
- 47:30action sequences like beach ramel Bridge bit, because it's it's hard, um So
- 47:38I kind of was thinking more like scenes with so for that, um,
- 47:45I would say when Captain Miller is diffusing the tension between Horvath and Robin by
- 47:52telling his story of being an English teacher before the war, and Robin's pissed
- 48:00they're doing this mission and the medic Wade just died and he's saying he's done,
- 48:06and Horbeth pulls a gun on him and it's getting very Yeah, that's
- 48:08brutal, it's so brutal. But then out of nowhere, he's just like,
- 48:14you know what, what's what? What's thet shows how resourceful he is,
- 48:19right, he's been holding that card for you know, right when,
- 48:22but he'd need it at some point or whatever. Absolutely, and I thought
- 48:25that was a beautiful scene. Yeah, that is great. I love that.
- 48:32I love both of us a lot. Uh, if we're if we
- 48:37include Giovanni Ribc dying, I'm happy to pick that as my number one because
- 48:42those rutals very high. But also the scene you talked about Rob the when
- 48:47they're all in the church, yes, um, just hanging out and they're
- 48:52just they're just talking and we're really kind of getting to know all of them,
- 48:55and then Giovanni talking about his mother and he's like, I don't know
- 48:59why I did that. I don't know why I pretended to be asleep and
- 49:00all that like that, that really hit something raw in me. I don't
- 49:06know what, I don't know why, but it was I loved that scene
- 49:08so much, so much stuff in there. Yeah, yeah, I was
- 49:13gonna say. I also loved earlier in that when you have Tom Hanks talking
- 49:17to Tom size more and that's where you really do get to understand that,
- 49:22like Tom Hanks is like, hey, I wouldn't trade ten vechios or whatever.
- 49:28That story and when they were laughing together about that felt so real like
- 49:31they were And I've been in that exact conversation when I'm talking with a buddy
- 49:37with an old friend. That's funny like and that, Yeah, that human
- 49:39moment was amazing too, especially when it's as we get older and like they're
- 49:45not around anymore, you know what I mean, and you just get to
- 49:46be like man, you know, like that that joy into again, grief
- 49:52is such like a nasty, like sneaky little guy, you know, like
- 49:57it'll it'll sneak up on you even in those happy moments, you know that
- 50:00Just that that was great, or just people you lose touch with too,
- 50:04I mean, I mean I tell stories about like Vecchio all the time,
- 50:12or I'm just peeing ours into people's used to pee in the conversion ban.
- 50:23Yeah, that's good. That's good. Also obviously we said if we're not
- 50:30picking, but like the storming of the beach is insane, is insane,
- 50:34and it's just the cinematography and that is just so nuts and all of the
- 50:38planning that must have taken. It's just it's mind boggling. And I really
- 50:43like the ending scenes as well. They like they kind of almost set up
- 50:49like the whole game plan and then they storm the city and all that,
- 50:52they fall back to the Alamo and then we have that end you know of
- 50:57what are you talking about the ramel Bridge scene? Yes, yes, love,
- 51:00that would be into I mean that last scene is the hardest. I
- 51:06cried or that's for sure. For sure, did either of you feel like
- 51:10so? I didn't feel like the first twenty five minutes was too long,
- 51:15or maybe it was too long, but but it was too long because it
- 51:17needed to have the effect of just yea like beating you to death with its
- 51:23awfulness. I was feeling in the second half, in the in the last
- 51:28twenty five minute sequence war sequence, I was feeling like it was dragging or
- 51:32I didn't want to see any more war like in in a different way than
- 51:37I didn't so that that was like when you're seeing all these you're seeing all
- 51:40your like favorite characters. Maybe that's it. Yeah, maybe that's it.
- 51:44I'm just like, you're going to do that, just just do it more
- 51:47quickly or something. But yeah, I wasn't that the second half war scene,
- 51:52although it was great, it just like, do we really have to
- 51:57spend all this time in war? I was just getting tired of it.
- 52:00But maybe maybe that's the point of why they did it that way. Sure,
- 52:05but yeah, I definitely found myself I forgot how extensive that end that
- 52:08like sort of final stand was for sure, but yeah, crazy did uh
- 52:15had there been any real war scenes quite like that? I mean, what
- 52:21are some other war movies that would have been comparable in terms of the battle
- 52:24sequences saving Private Ryan before Saving Private Ryan? Like maybe some Vietnam movies like
- 52:31whatever, Popular Platoon had a few pretty gross ones, But this is maybe
- 52:37the First World War two, Maybe that really really captured some of the yeah
- 52:46what it was like, Yeah, well it's hard, right because we also,
- 52:51like it is on this pedestal of firm good versus firm evil. Yeah,
- 52:55like you know that we really like we really the idolized these people.
- 53:01I mean, we call them the greatest generation for crime, you know,
- 53:05because we there was a lot going on. So this is and not even
- 53:09that this is putting that in a bad light, but it's putting it in
- 53:12a more realistic light, I think, and that you know, probably a
- 53:15lot of movies didn't do that up until that point, like we had to
- 53:19be away from it a little bit more maybe or something. I don't know.
- 53:23I hesitate to bring this movie up, but I watched and like I
- 53:27think in the last year or in the last two I think though only war
- 53:31movie maybe i've seen since that has a similar awe inspiring sort of cinematography or
- 53:40just something special was nineteen seventeen. Did You Guys Are So Hard But So
- 53:47Great? I think that was the last movie I watched before everything at the
- 53:52Pandemic starting, Yeah, the last thing I saw in the theater anyway,
- 53:55and just that, you know, that's that whole continuous take movie or whatever.
- 53:59Yeah, thats how that just you know, basically it prevents you from
- 54:04every getting out of yah of take a breath. And to me that that's
- 54:09that the way they did that, um just does something to the war movie
- 54:15that you know, no other war movie can do like it just never lets
- 54:16you to stop. And World War One is nuts duwed like they went from
- 54:22you know, horse and buggies to machine guns and airplanes by the end of
- 54:25that war, like craziest time frame anyway, It's all aside, but yeah,
- 54:32yeah, sorry about that. I just had to incredible for sure,
- 54:38cinematography in that movie. I don't know what did we pick one, I
- 54:45don't know. I don't know that we need to for this one. There's
- 54:49so many, so many ingredies. I mean, it is a mostly male
- 54:52cast, so it's it makes sense that it would be a lot of dinguses
- 54:54around, so we're many think a lot of Dingay, let's go and talk
- 55:00about some of these quotes and talk about our favorite quotes. It's time to
- 55:04show me the money. Show a pat No, you can say a couple
- 55:14of these if you want. Pale Yeah, the first one that comes to
- 55:16mind. It just struck me as I don't know something kids that grow up
- 55:22in the farm would say or something, but they're in between. I think
- 55:25they get to the first location where there's some airborne unit, there's a bunch
- 55:29of casualties and a bunch of people that are injured, and it must have
- 55:34been it must be u uh Ribisi maybe who's like, hey, can you
- 55:38go, I think smell that leg over there find out South of Cheese.
- 55:44Yes he does, and then he's like, oh, yeah, I don't
- 55:50know. I mean that's girls. But that quote, like that stuck with
- 55:53me, and then I looked. I looked for some time. This is
- 55:57not my favorite quote because it was I'm with Rob that this is like one
- 56:00of the worst parts of the movie for me, But I was I was
- 56:02searching was the ugly tree metaphor original to Private Ryan, Like, was that
- 56:08the first time it was ever? Because I've used the ugly tree? Yeah,
- 56:14for sure. Wow, that can't be, can it? That would
- 56:16be amazing if it was. I love it. That's definitely the first time
- 56:21I'd ever heard that quote. Yeah, dude, I guess I didn't think
- 56:23about it face first, from the ugly tree or whatever. Yeah, hid
- 56:29every branch all the way down, dandy. You're a young man, I
- 56:34am trying to remember. Yeah, I'll stay with those. They're just more
- 56:37like comic releaf ones, but those ones stuck out to me. I love
- 56:39you guys can do the serious ones. Yeah. The serious one for sure
- 56:44is when miller Is is dying and he leans in he said, James earned
- 56:52this, earn it, wolf wolf um, and then we have old James
- 57:00Ryan at the end. That makes you boohoo's hard, which it makes me
- 57:04boohoos so hard as well. Says my family is with me today. They
- 57:07wanted to come with me. To be honest with you, I wasn't sure
- 57:09how i'd feel coming back here. Every day I think about what you said
- 57:13to me that day on the bridge. I tried to live my life the
- 57:16best that I could. I hope that was enough. I hope that,
- 57:21at least in your eyes, I've earned what all of you have done for
- 57:23me. His wife comes over, says James, and that says Captain John
- 57:30H. Miller. Tell me I have led a good life. What tell
- 57:35me I'm a good man? Yeah? You are? Oh dude, cry
- 57:38right now. Oh it's so amazing. And we didn't talk about that actor,
- 57:45but that is maybe that's maybe the best like older version of its actor
- 57:52that I've ever seen, how it like morphs into him. Yeah, and
- 57:59believe bol once they did that, Yeah, I loved that. I also
- 58:02believe that I forgot, probably because I've seen it so many times now,
- 58:07but I forgot that like we didn't know that was Ryan, right, Like
- 58:12that was kind of a reveal of sorts, you know, and all that,
- 58:15like because we kind of think we go from the the old guy in
- 58:20the cemetery into John Miller's eyes into Tom hanks eyes, so like at the
- 58:24when they're storming the beach, so like we don't know that's him, you
- 58:29know, and all that, which is which is kind of fun. I
- 58:30forgot about that part, but yeah, that's great. Another one is when
- 58:37Tom Sizemore is talking to Tom Hanks about, you know, maybe they should
- 58:42stay and help Ryan's crew out at their mel bridge. He gets to say
- 58:47the you know the title of the movie where he's like, someday we might
- 58:51look back on this and decide that saving Private Ryan was the one decent thing
- 58:54we were able to pull out of this whole god off mess. Like you
- 58:59said, Captain, maybe we do that we all earn the right to go
- 59:01home. Love that, Yeah, I love that. I want to throw
- 59:07some out bugs. H Yeah, a silly one. Uh. When they're
- 59:13listening, up Him is explaining the like the song that they're listening to,
- 59:17and he's like again and this is uh Goldberg, I think Adam Goldberg.
- 59:23Adam Goldberg. Yeah, he's like again up him. Uh, to be
- 59:28honest with you, I find myself curiously aroused by you. That's a whole
- 59:35thing. And then size more. I think it's right before that or whatever,
- 59:37He's like, Jesus up him. They play a few more of these
- 59:39songs I'm Gonna shoot myself and that whatever. But also he loves it,
- 59:45which I think is such a fun part of that character is like he tries
- 59:50to be really tough, but he is so sensitive, Like you get said
- 59:52earlier, you know, I think he's just this big old softie. I
- 59:55love that when he says I can't see my brother's face, that is crushing
- 1:00:01in so many ways, really brutal. Identify with that, though sometimes sometimes
- 1:00:07you are you know, you know someone's face, but for for a little
- 1:00:12while you just can't pull it up. It's happened. This is how dramatic
- 1:00:15of a kid I was, and probably makes sense why I cry a thousand
- 1:00:19times a movie. I was away from my mom for like a week,
- 1:00:22and I can remember saying that to my brother when I was like ten.
- 1:00:25I remember what mom looks like. It isn't that funny, funny? I'm
- 1:00:34dying. I also love this, and I forgot it was there. When
- 1:00:39he's like, what do we tell your mother, He's like, tell her
- 1:00:42that when you found me, I was here with the only brothers I have
- 1:00:45left, and there's no way I was going to leave them. I think
- 1:00:47she'll understand that. You know. It's just like, that's a that's a
- 1:00:51case in point a cult like that doesn't fit with the story. He tells,
- 1:00:57Yeah, that's just two that's just two points niant and mature. So
- 1:01:00yeah, be one guy or the other. Don't don't be this, especially
- 1:01:04because he does that right away. I don't know, maybe he's in shock
- 1:01:08or something. And then this one is kind of a speech, but it's
- 1:01:13Captain Miller when he does say that he's a school teacher and all that,
- 1:01:17and I won't I won't borry with the whole thing. But the oh,
- 1:01:23sometimes I wonder if I've changed so much my wife is even going to recognize
- 1:01:27me whenever it is that I get back to her, and how I'll i'll
- 1:01:30ever be able to tell her about days like today Ryan. I don't know
- 1:01:34anything about Ryan. I don't care. That man means nothing to me.
- 1:01:37It's just a name. But if you know, if going to Ramel and
- 1:01:42finding him so that he can go home, if that earns me the right
- 1:01:45to get back to my wife, then that's my mission. And then he
- 1:01:46talks about you want to leave, you want to go off and fight the
- 1:01:50war? All right, all right, I won't stop you. I'll even
- 1:01:52put in the paperwork. I just know that every man I kill the farther
- 1:01:55away from home I feel. And I was like, dang, that's a
- 1:01:59line. It's great, great dialogue. Man. Love that. Yeah,
- 1:02:05there was a fu bar thing. I didn't know about food bar before this,
- 1:02:07I don't think. Yeah, I know, I didn't. I didn't
- 1:02:12for sure. Sorry, go ahead, Benna. Oh there was a scene
- 1:02:15where where someone was saying like, I don't know, it just just doesn't
- 1:02:19feel right, and he's like, when was the last time you felt right
- 1:02:21about it? Yes? Yeah, I loved that. Yeah, that's a
- 1:02:24super good quote. Good call. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at it
- 1:02:29here. It was I got a bad feeling about this one. Yeah,
- 1:02:34when was the last time you felt good about anything? Yeah? Fair point.
- 1:02:40I also really liked the when they it's right before Vin Diesel grabs the
- 1:02:46kid from the parents and stuff, and they shoot the guy. The messenger
- 1:02:51goes, they shoot him, and then they shoot him again when he's on
- 1:02:53the ground. He's like, why would they do that? He's already you
- 1:02:55know whatever, he's like, and he's like, as long as he has
- 1:02:59you know, he's still got the message, we would do the same thing.
- 1:03:02And he's like, no, we wouldn't. And I just thought that
- 1:03:05was such a like the captain knows they would do the same thing, so
- 1:03:09he understands the lack of humanity. You know that war brings out where these
- 1:03:15other guys don't even though they you know, everybody's permitting atrocities right like they're
- 1:03:20all it's all happening. So I thought that was great one that always kind
- 1:03:27of it's funny and also heartbreaking. When that German soldier is dicking digging the
- 1:03:34grave and he's like, please, I like America. Fancy schmancy, what
- 1:03:38a cinch, go fly a kite, cat, got your tongue, hill
- 1:03:43of beans, Betty boop, what a dish, Betty gray ball, nice
- 1:03:47gams, just all of that. He's saying every American phrase he knows.
- 1:03:54And I say, can you seek? Yeah, so it was funny and
- 1:04:03awful. Yeah. I think Home Free should do a version of that condition
- 1:04:09next time you guys get the chance. Yeah, right, that would be
- 1:04:14great. This is taken from the German and saving I say, can you
- 1:04:18see? I say, uh. Also, I never realized this before,
- 1:04:26but this was a really fun one. It's the the high pitched voice guy
- 1:04:29that your dad doesn't like, Robin it burns. He tells the story about
- 1:04:34measuring the lady before they go, and like he makes her a size smaller,
- 1:04:40so she's like, you know whatever, that was weird. But then
- 1:04:43he's like, whenever, whenever you're over there, if you're scared or nervous,
- 1:04:46just think of these And I never thought about he tells that story because
- 1:04:51he's scared and nervous, and that's why he does think of that, you
- 1:04:56know what I mean, Like it's such a simple thing. I probably should
- 1:04:58have got it, but that was really poignant to me. It was him,
- 1:05:01especially him as a guy who doesn't show a lot of fear, like
- 1:05:05he kind of has that gruff exterior to protect himself and in that moment,
- 1:05:10you know, and weirdly, he's the one that wanted to go on this
- 1:05:13least and one of two people that survived, you know, from the company
- 1:05:17or whatever. So it's just crazy. I don't know why thinking of a
- 1:05:23couple big torpedoes would make you feel any better in war, though that's fair.
- 1:05:27I mean they're on land, yeah, land torpedoes, they're less worrisome.
- 1:05:31Yeah, I guess that. Though. Yeah, I didn't have any
- 1:05:38yet. Well, I did like the I just more like the response,
- 1:05:42not so much the quote, but just the after Matt Damon goes through that
- 1:05:46story. That makes me cringey um. He then goes, you know,
- 1:05:51tell me about your wife in those rosebushes. Yeah, no, that one
- 1:05:55I say for me. Yeah, I love that sentiment. Dame. We
- 1:06:01haven't done that once yet. Good call good. It's like I read about
- 1:06:06that too. And and to Spielberg's credit, Matt Damon wasn't Matt Damon when
- 1:06:11he cast at him right, he was a nobody, but then Goodwill Hunting
- 1:06:15came out right before saving Private Ryan, so therefore completely obliterating his nu noboddy's
- 1:06:23status. Because I would say that that was a mistake a little bit like
- 1:06:29I didn't. I just it was the speech and that it's that it's him,
- 1:06:32But I read that there are a couple other casting options for him.
- 1:06:36I think it was Ed Norton was one of them. Oh wow? And
- 1:06:42who else was there? Hawk? In Ed Norton were both other options to
- 1:06:46play well Ethan Hawk was definitely very well known. That's surprising that he was
- 1:06:53up for it. But yeah, he had already been in like or maybe
- 1:06:57it was. I don't know if it was before or after. But wasn't
- 1:06:59he in one of the other fear wasn't it was? It wasn't he in
- 1:07:02one of the other better best movies of all time World War Two, Pearl
- 1:07:06Harbor, or was that was he? That's a good call. He wasn't
- 1:07:12in there, Ethan Hawk Maybe, I don't know. They had a pretty
- 1:07:15extensive cast. I don't remember that. I don't think so. M but
- 1:07:19yeah, Ed Norton doesn't really feel like he's from Iowa though, Like you
- 1:07:24gotta give Spielberg credit. Sure, Matt Damon looks like an Iowa kid.
- 1:07:29Yep so, and probably a really good casting call. It's so surprising to
- 1:07:33me because, like, when I saw that monologue that I don't like very
- 1:07:36much, I was like, the reason that he got that movie was for
- 1:07:42this monologue because it's so like his other stories and good Will Hunting. Yeah,
- 1:07:46because amazing and good Will Hunting. He goes through a bunch of stories
- 1:07:50and you believe every word of it. Yeah, it's surprising to me that
- 1:07:56that was ad libbed um and that then I don't like it. It's just
- 1:08:00it's it's weird. Neil Patrick Harris was another one that was being for that
- 1:08:06role. That would be I can't really see that. He would have definitely
- 1:08:11been unknown. I could have seen him be more of the givonny RBC role.
- 1:08:15Yeah, Doogie Houser in Oh yeah, I guess that's well yeah,
- 1:08:18good call. No, you're right, I won't be the doctor. I
- 1:08:25refuse to do. You had that Dogie theme, just this little click click
- 1:08:35yeah yeah, yeah, his little his little journal at the end of the
- 1:08:39day. My just last of this aside. But yes, I have teenage
- 1:08:44daughters and they're watching. I saw them watching. There's like a Doogie Howser
- 1:08:48remake. Now it's like a you're doing it? Yeah that it plays on
- 1:08:55the theme, like cool, it was pretty not as at a Dukee Houser.
- 1:09:00Well, Turkeyhouse was amazing. Well, I think we should move to
- 1:09:04bugs boohoo moments when strong men also cry, strong men also crying game because
- 1:09:16I think it's going to be quite extensive. I wrote down eleven possibly twelve.
- 1:09:23Um, it's probably way more than that. So I'm gonna start going
- 1:09:26through him hit me right out the gate, just with the old man Ryan
- 1:09:31bringing his family to the cemetery. Um, I just wrote the Omaha Beach
- 1:09:36sequence, seeing the red waves come in filled with soldiers blood. Yeah,
- 1:09:42there was tears in there. I don't know exactly what it was for just
- 1:09:45the terror of war. I don't know. Yes, absolutely, when we
- 1:09:48see mother Ryan fall on her deck, when the officers come to her door
- 1:09:53with the priest, Yeah for sure. When the chief of staff says,
- 1:09:58are you actually confirm that all of these moments, yes, yes, that's
- 1:10:04tears. I have a real issue kind of thing. And I've I've witnessed
- 1:10:11this a few times. When when the chief of staff says, the boy
- 1:10:15is alive and we're going to need We're going to send someone to find him
- 1:10:18and get him the hell out of there. Yeah, yes, and included
- 1:10:23in that, just like the sight of all those letters being typed out to
- 1:10:28the families, that was rough. That's crazy. Yes, the scene that
- 1:10:30Patna brought up when the French father tries to hand the soldiers's daughter, and
- 1:10:34then so there might there might be a couple there, but I thought I
- 1:10:40was just I guess counting it as one because then Vin diesel dies, then
- 1:10:45she comes back and slaps him like, yes, figure, there's crank through
- 1:10:48all that. Um the Giovanni rabc death. Oh yes, um, just
- 1:10:56know every man I kill the farther away from home I feel, yes,
- 1:11:00Um, there's no way I'm leaving this Bridge when Matt Damon says that,
- 1:11:05Yeah, when Malish who was Adam Goldberg when he dies because Upham gets so
- 1:11:12scared and doesn't help. Well, yeah, that scene, man, I
- 1:11:16know we talked about it, but holy crap. Yeah, that scene is
- 1:11:19raw. It's really really tough. Visceral. Yeah, um, James earned
- 1:11:26this, earn it? Toma God, Yeah, absolutely, And the old
- 1:11:29man telling his wife to tell him he's led a good life, that he's
- 1:11:31a good man. Yeah, probably should count for ten boom. Yeah,
- 1:11:35I mean that. I can remember the first time I watched this that crushed
- 1:11:42me. It was just like, oh, it's unbelievable that those lines.
- 1:11:46Yeah, yeah, for sure, So that is what I had. Were
- 1:11:51there more Booze, I don't think so, No, I don't think so.
- 1:12:00It's hard because, like you said, a lot of them are muddled
- 1:12:02together. But that I think you're right. I think that was perfect Boom.
- 1:12:08Good work. I'll take it. I'll take So what was it eleven
- 1:12:12twelve? It was eleven twelve was going to be if you split up the
- 1:12:15Vindie soul. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
- 1:12:19Eleven is pretty good. Yeah, not bad, not bad for it's a
- 1:12:24long movie. I'm a crier. I cry at movies pretty frequently, but
- 1:12:29suspiciously or interestingly, did not cry during this movie. Really, no,
- 1:12:33even at the end. Dude, are you okay? My good? Well
- 1:12:38you said you were kind of getting sick of the war stuff by the end.
- 1:12:41Yeah, Well, I've never felt that way with this movie. I'm
- 1:12:44always like right there, like hoping, you know, these underdogs are going
- 1:12:47to come back and whatever. But one one motif that always gets me,
- 1:12:55or one theme is when someone sacrifices themselves or dies or puts in that Actually,
- 1:13:01I don't know if that happened that. I mean, they did overall,
- 1:13:04but there were it wasn't ever any poignant scene where someone like goes out
- 1:13:09in front takes the bullet for someone else, like all heroically. That's a
- 1:13:14point, that's a that's a whatever you call that. I guess. Tom
- 1:13:17Hanks kind of does at the end when Bridge, Yeah, but a little
- 1:13:24bit. He doesn't actually save them, I guess, so maybe it doesn't
- 1:13:27count, you know, I mean, did you see his sucker for it?
- 1:13:30He's able to blow up the tank with his pistol. He didn't see
- 1:13:34how was that? Because he's cool? Because he shot it through the the
- 1:13:38actual like cannon or was he shooting at the ignission thing? I didn't I
- 1:13:43didn't get what he was shooting at. Now was the plane dropped a bomb?
- 1:13:45The plane dropped a bomb. It was just okay, yeah, whole
- 1:13:49thing they make it look like which like that because even he's like, what
- 1:13:55wo huh, Yeah, should we do a little movie trivia? Yes,
- 1:14:03please, we've hit some already, we have. We have for sure.
- 1:14:06The two German soldiers quote unquote who are shot trying to surrender at the very
- 1:14:12beginning of the movie, we're actually speaking Check and they were saying, please
- 1:14:15don't shoot me. I'm not German, I'm Check. I didn't kill anyone.
- 1:14:18I'm Check. And I thought this was really cool because they were members
- 1:14:25of what the Germans called the Post Battalions, which was mostly Check in Polish
- 1:14:30people taken prisoner in Eastern European countries invaded by Germany and then forced into the
- 1:14:35German army. And I think that's really important to know. And it was
- 1:14:40actually one of I wish they would have hit that point with the guy that
- 1:14:45they let go a little bit, just to make it a bigger plot point,
- 1:14:48just because it was really prevalent. But that's like a personal, you
- 1:14:51know, wish that I have. But I thought that was super cool that
- 1:14:55they were speaking a different language. And it even says that in the the
- 1:14:59Blue st Yes. Yeah, gives extra meaning to the check yourself before you
- 1:15:03wreck yourself. Yes, exactly. The checks are nice, people's let's see,
- 1:15:13Oh, this was fun. All the principal actors except for Matt Damon
- 1:15:15underwent several days of grueling army training. Damon was spared so that the other
- 1:15:20actors would resent him and would convey that feeling in their performances. That's pretty
- 1:15:26amazing. Actually, love that incredible. Yes, that was brilliant. Let's
- 1:15:33see. We said the thing about good Will hunting coming out before this movie
- 1:15:39came out, which is fun. The Omaha Beach scene cost eleven million dollars
- 1:15:44to shoot in and of itself, and it involved up to a thousand extras,
- 1:15:47some of whom some of whom were members of the Irish Army Reserve.
- 1:15:51And of those extras, twenty to thirty of them were amputees that were issued
- 1:15:57prosthetic limbs to play the soul jers who had their limbs blown off. And
- 1:16:01that's just I love. Yeah, that's so smart. It was filmed in
- 1:16:05Ireland on a beach France. Did you say that didn't miss it? No,
- 1:16:11just that it was the Irish Army Reserve, So yeah that makes sense.
- 1:16:13Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. It's so cool. But like what
- 1:16:16a cool I don't know. That's just a great idea. I mean it
- 1:16:19saves it saves some CGI budget to not have for suah, I mean for
- 1:16:24sure. And when that one gets that much job, which is great.
- 1:16:27You know, like when that one guy gets his arm blown off and then
- 1:16:31he just looks like he's in shot and he goes and picks up his arm
- 1:16:35and starts walking so wild. Yeah. Yeah, so that's such a great
- 1:16:40little part of that. Yeah. I agree. Also that that beach battle
- 1:16:45was filmed in sequence over a four week period and they would just move the
- 1:16:49action up the beach shot by shot, day by day, which I think
- 1:16:54is so cool. Um, and apparently none of it was storyboarded in advance.
- 1:16:59They just kind to let it happen and go from there, which is
- 1:17:02crazy to think about too, but yeah, uh, this is crazy.
- 1:17:06Tom Sizmore was battling drug addiction during this production. Uh, and Spiedberg Spielberg
- 1:17:12gave him an ultimatum that he would be blood tested every day on set,
- 1:17:15and if he failed the test once, he'd be fired and the part would
- 1:17:19be recast and reshot with someone else, even if they were at the end
- 1:17:23of production. Sizemore agreed and managed to pass all this tests. But unless
- 1:17:28he relapsed later, I wish he would have kept casting him. Yeah,
- 1:17:32yeah, he I mean he just eventually died, right, Yeah, I
- 1:17:38just died. I think it was March. Yeah, And I had actually
- 1:17:42noticed right before that I had looked up his cameo. Um, Tom Sizemore.
- 1:17:50I just think he's so great, but you watch these cameos of him
- 1:17:56sending messages to people and he is clearly in toxicated with something. I don't
- 1:18:01know what, but it was just like heartbreaking to watch. Yeah, that's
- 1:18:05tough man. Yeah, I read about about him. He was also invited
- 1:18:12by Mallick Terrence Malick to do Thin Red Line, and he had had that
- 1:18:15invitation already out there, and Spielberg called them and said, do you want
- 1:18:21to spend you know, six months with Terrence Malick in Australia or with me
- 1:18:27and Tom Hanks in the UK. And Ireland, and he picked He picked
- 1:18:30the UK in Ireland. Tough choice though, Yeah, I mean maybe we
- 1:18:35were up for oscars. That's awesome that this was funny. Some critics complained
- 1:18:43that the scene where the rangers were throwing the mortar rounds by hand at the
- 1:18:46German soldiers was unrealistic, but in fact Medal of Honor recipient Charles Kelly actually
- 1:18:53did this during a battle in Italy in nineteen forty three, So that was
- 1:18:56like a factual based on factual events. Which didn't you catch Walleye up and
- 1:19:01bought it like that? Yeah, for sure. We just threw bombs DNT
- 1:19:06wherever we could find. Really, no, I can go on record as
- 1:19:12saying I never caught a Walleye. Never was that in doc Hollywood where they
- 1:19:16blew up yeah the lake? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
- 1:19:23Effective. Uh, let's see when the camera shakes during explosions, Steven Spielberg
- 1:19:30used drills attached to the side of the camera which were turned on when required
- 1:19:33while shooting this effect. To the cruise photographer, let Spielberg know there was
- 1:19:38a shaker of lens or a shaker lens for the camera that did the same
- 1:19:42thing. Already, and he said in an interview that he thought it he
- 1:19:45was sad because he thought he invented a great new technique and there was already
- 1:19:48something else out there, which I think it's funny. Uh. Matt Damon
- 1:19:55ad libbed everyone's favorite scene in the movie, um Rich, Yeah, let's
- 1:20:02see. Oh this is kind of fun the German. As the German soldier
- 1:20:10stabs Mellish to death, he says to him, give up. You don't
- 1:20:15stand a chance. Let's end this here. It'll be easier for you,
- 1:20:17much easier. You'll see, it will be over quickly. And they're spoken
- 1:20:23in German. I thought that was intense. And then during the ending sequence,
- 1:20:28when Upham emerges from hiding, he speaks in German without subtitles but roughly
- 1:20:31translated. He says, hands up, lay down your weapons several times.
- 1:20:35One of the German soldiers, when we find out is the guy who we
- 1:20:39saw previously, says, I know this soldier, I know him, and
- 1:20:43then he basically tells him to shut up, and the German soldier replies up
- 1:20:46him, and then after a pause, Upham shoots him, as we know,
- 1:20:50and then he says to everyone else, scram and vanish. So I
- 1:20:56don't know. Maybe he was trying to say, like, if you get
- 1:21:00shown mercy, you actually have to do it, you say, and leave
- 1:21:04and don't come back and kill people. Otherwise you don't get mercy twice or
- 1:21:10something. Yeah, that's I just don't. I don't buy that, because
- 1:21:13like if if you flip the roles, if you've been captured by the Germans
- 1:21:17and they show you mercy and they tell you to walk a thousand paces and
- 1:21:20you find your troops again, you're gonna go with them and you're gonna I'm
- 1:21:26sure you're not going to Oh sorry, I promised them that I wouldn't go.
- 1:21:30I'm gonna go and be a pow get tortured, you know. So
- 1:21:35that was another reason I was like, I don't. Yeah, I mean
- 1:21:39I get it, because he's pissed and all this stuff that just happened to
- 1:21:42him as awful and for you know, so maybe that's stripped a little bit
- 1:21:45of that humanity he had or that those those high values. But I still
- 1:21:49wish you wouldn't have done it. They just wanted him to have like a
- 1:21:51little redemption maybe or something too. I guess after that horrible scene of him
- 1:21:57just hid to stare away that battle, right, but then he could have
- 1:22:01been courageous then, but this felt cowardly. Yeah, agree, I agreed,
- 1:22:06And maybe that's what you know, maybe it was like raw cowards at
- 1:22:10the end of the day or something. I don't know. Yeah, I
- 1:22:13get you. Um, that was all the trivia that I had, these
- 1:22:18discussions, these discussions though, the fact that where we struggle, and that
- 1:22:24that's part of why it's such a great movie. Yes, it's not.
- 1:22:27It doesn't tell you how to think. It's a little ambiguous. There's a
- 1:22:30lot of stuff there. He's just like, so it's just a fog of
- 1:22:32war sort of concept for you know, what's right, what's who's Who are
- 1:22:36we rooting for? Who's the good guy? Who's the bad guy? You
- 1:22:39know? So sorry the answer is no one. Oh that's great. Um.
- 1:22:45I saw when Captain Miller tells the rest of the unit what he does
- 1:22:48for living back home. His speech was much longer in the original script,
- 1:22:53but Tom Hanks felt his character wouldn't have said so much about himself, and
- 1:22:58he told Steven Spielberg that, and Spielberger greed and they good call. Yeah,
- 1:23:03Um, I saw that Billy Bob Thornton turned down the role of Sergeant
- 1:23:10Horvath, Yeah, because he did not want to film the Normandy beach scenes
- 1:23:15due to a phobia of water. Yeah, oh yeah, that wouldn't work.
- 1:23:18Then I don't think I love him. He's one of my favorite actors.
- 1:23:23I think Sizemore better. Absolutely. He's physically intimidating enough to be that
- 1:23:27sort of second in command kind of thing. And maybe that's just because Sizemore
- 1:23:30was the part, and I'm you know, yeah, I would have felt
- 1:23:33differently, but I like he can certainly do intimidating. Like I think the
- 1:23:38Fargo TV series that you see, he was so good that was like on
- 1:23:45par with like Javier Bardam and no kind of roll man. I agree.
- 1:23:49Yeah, dude, good call um. The one guy that was offered the
- 1:23:55role of Horrorvath who turned it down who I could see doing it was Michael
- 1:24:00Madson. Oh, similar, similar cast. Absolutely, they have a similar
- 1:24:04vibe those two. Yeah, good call Um. But otherwise I think you
- 1:24:10hit the other ones. Yeah, yeah, that's all I got. Nice
- 1:24:15Pat. Now, do you have any other stuff that we didn't say?
- 1:24:17No, I think you you basically covered all the things that I had kind
- 1:24:20of seen but nice. There was a moment and you guys maybe watched the
- 1:24:25opening again. But in the only time I noticed the music and the whole
- 1:24:30the whole movie, the only time it actually registered to my consciousness was the
- 1:24:33opening scene, and I was listening to it and I thought, this sounds
- 1:24:39like Show Shank Redemption music. Oh. Interesting. I would listen to it
- 1:24:43again because I think Show Shank was earlier as well, so I didn't research
- 1:24:47it or I mean super close the same, the same. Yeah, I'm
- 1:24:56gonna I also try to do some side by side comparisons because it's loose.
- 1:25:00I'd be interested to hear that too, because actually I noticed one of the
- 1:25:03ascending lines melodic lines sounds a lot like Lord of the Rings as well,
- 1:25:09yeah, which is Howard Shore. Yeah, Howard Shore, right, yeah,
- 1:25:13And it was like one of the I mean, it was just a
- 1:25:15part, right, But I was like, oh, that's that's fun,
- 1:25:17because I guess that would also be that would be because Lord of the Rings
- 1:25:21came up like two thousand and one, so that would be Howard Shore plagiarizing
- 1:25:27Williams lifting lifting a little bit. You know, there's only so many notes
- 1:25:30and all that stuff. I've heard, I've heard classical music. I find
- 1:25:34that John Williams he steals a lot like Gustav Holst the Planets. Listen to
- 1:25:44the Planet Symphony and it's actually there are parts where it's just like, okay,
- 1:25:47yeah, yeah, this is this is stealing, right, you know,
- 1:25:50stealing with pride. Though maybe maybe not stealing like plagiarism, but just
- 1:25:54like this sounds great. I'm gonna take this idea and run with it.
- 1:25:58I don't know if John Williams ever talked about it, but there are definitely
- 1:26:01parts rightly. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, nice judgment day. Will
- 1:26:08there be a sequel? No? No, no, that he probably could
- 1:26:12have just would be awful here. Well, I think, you know,
- 1:26:15maybe like we're up up him becomes like a heartless assassin, like finding finding
- 1:26:20all of the hidden Germans that are escaping, and he just shoots them all
- 1:26:26in the head like he doesn't matter families or anything. He just blood bath,
- 1:26:32you know. I think interesting. Oh I would watch that big time.
- 1:26:39That sounds very Tarantino esque. That is funny. Man. He looked
- 1:26:45familiar to me too, so I had to google him. I know he's
- 1:26:47probably been in other things, but the reason that. Yeah, the reason
- 1:26:50I recognized him was because he wasn't lost. That's where I know him from.
- 1:26:57I actually did the same thing, and I was like, I don't
- 1:26:59see anything that's out at me. Yeah, took me one movie called The
- 1:27:03Laramie Project. That's the only thing I could think of. But okay,
- 1:27:06oh, which is also a play? Oh yes, m that's a it
- 1:27:14was heavy or the young man that got killed? And my only is that
- 1:27:21what it was? Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, yeah, shoot,
- 1:27:25I feel terrible that I can't think of his name right now. It's
- 1:27:28a great play. I'll look it up while Rob explains what we're doing next.
- 1:27:31The next thing we're gonna do is a game. Do you want to
- 1:27:34play a game? No? I do? Please please play a game with
- 1:27:39with us? Can do I have a chance of winning? Yeah? You
- 1:27:43definitely have a chance. Guys, it's Matthew Shepard. We should have Yeah,
- 1:27:45thank you? Sorry, got you that sad stories. If you've never
- 1:27:49seen that play, go see yet because it's awful but great. At the
- 1:27:54other time, um so I did a starting five for you guys, and
- 1:27:59I'm not sure if you played this with us last I remember this a little
- 1:28:02bit. So it's the five actors in my movie. They're all in a
- 1:28:08movie. Once you know the name of the movie, you ring in with
- 1:28:10your name, and um, all ten of these movies have something in common,
- 1:28:15okay, and if you know what the theme is, you can ring
- 1:28:18in at anytime. Um. I also have another theme. There's two themes,
- 1:28:26so if you come up with the other theme as well, you can.
- 1:28:31Yeah. So that this has to do with war, I mean does
- 1:28:35it? Does it have to be at least tangentially related to saving Private Ryan
- 1:28:41somewhat? Yeah? Yeah, well I got it. Then can I pre
- 1:28:44guess the theme? You're gonna pre guess the theme? It's motion pictures that
- 1:28:48have a great porno title that comes off. Yes, yes, you got
- 1:28:57it. Okay, nicely done. What are some other ones? Let's go
- 1:29:01through? Also, good on you guys that it took that long for that
- 1:29:06to getting to be so mature. We're so mature, all right, you
- 1:29:13guys? Ready? Yes, sorry, yes, let's go to number one.
- 1:29:16The first name Kate Blanchet, m hmmm. The second name Philip Seymour
- 1:29:26Hoffman, one of my favorite actors of all. I love him. Number
- 1:29:31three Jude Law. Okay, Number four Gwyneth Paltrow. Oh is this uh?
- 1:29:45Eric yep? Is it the movie that beat this movie for the Best
- 1:29:48Picture? Oh the Romeo. I forget the name. No, no,
- 1:29:56no, it's in Shakespeare in Love. Shakespeare in Love. It is not
- 1:30:00that. That's a good guess that right, Yes, you've never seen us.
- 1:30:04Okay, it's actually pretty great. It should not a beat saving Private
- 1:30:09Ryan for Best Picture. It's a pretty great movie. Wait, uh,
- 1:30:13bugs, yes, is it the talented mister Ripley? It is? And
- 1:30:19that's the last name. Yeah, Philippins great in that boat scene. Oh
- 1:30:26my gosh, yes, oh man, I could have got that one.
- 1:30:30Okay, I'm not feeling bad yet. Okay, good, so bugs on
- 1:30:34the board with two points there the Karnton mister Riffrey number two. The first
- 1:30:44name is Michael chern Us, which I don't think anybody would know his name,
- 1:30:49but I have seen it a few times. Okay. Um. The
- 1:30:53second name is PhaSeal Ahmed. The third name, though, you guys,
- 1:30:59Catherine Keene. The fourth name barcad Abdy Oh bugs, uh uh Captain Phillips.
- 1:31:13Captain Phillips is correct, Tom Hanks to two more, I'm the captain.
- 1:31:17Now he's a Minnesotan throwout the first pitch when Home Free sang at the
- 1:31:25Twins game. Yeah. Same, Yeah, he's great in that movie too.
- 1:31:33He is super super good. All right. Yes, movies with like
- 1:31:40the main character's name in it in the close, yes, not quite.
- 1:31:46It is. It is that it's just more specific than that then, just
- 1:31:54the name and the title. They are all movies that have a title like
- 1:31:59a captain or mister and the name of it. M that's a good yes,
- 1:32:02but that is not it, all right, I don't know. I
- 1:32:08mean that we should very kissing. So what you're saying, well, well
- 1:32:14you'll you'll see here number three. The first name is Andy Garcia, the
- 1:32:21second name mc Damon, bugs, Oceans eleven, Oceans eleven is correct?
- 1:32:30Okay, three names Clooney, yes, Brad Pitt. Yes, Wait did
- 1:32:42you say Matt Damon? Matt Damon and Andy Garcia. He was the second
- 1:32:45one. Yeah. Uh, Julia Roberts, you got it. Okay,
- 1:32:50point you got it. Yeah, you got four points for that. So
- 1:32:56it's been the Townshend, mister Ripley, Captain Phil Lips, and oceans eleven.
- 1:33:01Are we going in order of the alphabet No, no, R,
- 1:33:05O, tco No not, I was thinking Ripley an um. Just their
- 1:33:15last names. There you go, that is what I was looking for.
- 1:33:19It's only their last name, it's not their heirst name. Got it?
- 1:33:25So that is one theme. Let's go to number four. The first name
- 1:33:30is Jason Schwartzman. I was just thinking of this is this is I've never
- 1:33:36seen it. Sorry, go ahead. The second name is Paul Jamadi.
- 1:33:45The third name is Colin Farrell. The fourth name is Emma Thompson, and
- 1:33:55the fifth name is Tom Hanks. Fine. Really for bus saving mister Banks,
- 1:34:06saving mister Banks. I've never seen it. You got oneis is going
- 1:34:12to be a disaster. It's a very good movie. You should check it
- 1:34:15out. We just talked about recently. It's the only reason I knew.
- 1:34:18Alrighty, let's go to number five. The first name Brian Cox. The
- 1:34:28second name Chris Cooper. Oh yeah. The third name I know Julius Stiles.
- 1:34:40The fourth name Franca Potente. That's what I had for dinner. Biggs
- 1:34:46Biggs, Yes, Bigs, lucky you uh? I lost about the born
- 1:34:55identity, the Bourne identity man Man Damon is the last name. Yes,
- 1:35:01very good? All right, this has been five what are we through?
- 1:35:08Five? Yes, there's still another thing. I'm gonna run it out.
- 1:35:12I'm gonna get the rest. Think twelve and pat Old has got the rest.
- 1:35:16Have you noticed anything similar with any of these? Uh? Attention at
- 1:35:23all? Can you save them again? Towns of Mister Ripley, Captain Phillips,
- 1:35:28Oceans eleven, Saving Mister Banks, good Bourne identity. It has nothing
- 1:35:33more to do with the title. Yeah, yeah, Matt Damon and Door
- 1:35:38Tom Hanks movies. Yes, yep, you got it? Wait really yeah,
- 1:35:42they're all Matt Damon or Tom Hanks movie. Great, easier to get
- 1:35:46the rest? Yep, it should be. It's all right. I haven't
- 1:35:50been in many Acapella traveling vans where we play the movie games, so I'm
- 1:35:57rusty heard. I just thought it was so amazing that these two guys have
- 1:36:03done enough movies where I could do this movie game with just last names.
- 1:36:08And that's a good point. So I kind of came up with it.
- 1:36:13I was like, did they all possible? So it gets Kenna hard towards
- 1:36:16the end. So let's go to number six. The first name Reginald Velle
- 1:36:20Johnson. Oh, I love him me too. The second name is Craig
- 1:36:28what you got it? I remember that he was in it. Yeah,
- 1:36:33I don't know anyone else but Tom Hanks. So I got Tom Hanks.
- 1:36:39Also Hooch, it's it's actually he actually has a name, but yes,
- 1:36:46yeah, I'm so sorry his name. Do you know his name? Pat
- 1:36:51None, the dog's name in real life? Yeah, I wouldn't have ever
- 1:36:55known that. His name is Beasley the dog I had. That's the kid.
- 1:37:00But there's two other people in Turner and who you guys have it at
- 1:37:02all? I can think of the VHS cover for that movie that's it,
- 1:37:08Saw lamps Down. That's all I remember. Clamps Down. Craig T.
- 1:37:13Nelson is one of the day and Mayor Winningham was his love interest in that.
- 1:37:19So I got Tom Hanks and Turner and Hooch. Let's go to number
- 1:37:25seven. The first name is Anna gun Uh huh. She said I'm breaking
- 1:37:31Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say I know her from Breaking Bad exactly.
- 1:37:35Yeah. The second name, don't tell her, don't tell her,
- 1:37:39don't tell her, don't tell her, tell him, don't tell him an
- 1:37:45um. The second name is Michae O'Malley. The third name is Laurel Lenny
- 1:37:53Good old Laurel Lennykay, Okay. Number four is Aaron Eckhart. The fifth
- 1:38:00and final name is Tom Hanks five year. I don't know, it's within
- 1:38:11the last eight years, don't know. Also, this is a nickname of
- 1:38:18this person's last name. Oh got it is that the this is just the
- 1:38:25one word, yes sell Sally it was, so that's one seither. It
- 1:38:35was Okay, ivies the Denzel one or the Tom Hanks light is incredible.
- 1:38:43I know, I don't know why I never saw it. The thing I
- 1:38:45didn't love about Sully was that they really tried to put this whole drama about,
- 1:38:50like if they were going to find fault with Sully, they have this
- 1:38:54trial, sure, and it's just like that part Yeah no, because everybody
- 1:38:58knows the story so well and it's like I'm always a hero, Like what
- 1:39:01are we doing here? Yeah, but they had to dramatize it a little
- 1:39:03bit. Okay, Um, let's go to number eight. The first name
- 1:39:08is Tracy Letts. The second name is Josh Lucas m. The third name
- 1:39:17is John Byrnthal. Wow. The fourth name is Christian Bale. The fifth
- 1:39:28and final name is Matt Damon five four three two one. This was like,
- 1:39:41in the last three years I've been paying attention to Manda. This was
- 1:39:46a great movie called Ford Versus Ferrari. Oh, yeah, that movie is
- 1:39:51fun. It's a really good movie. That's one that's worth watching. Pat
- 1:39:57note for sure. It's really I got such a bad bat gets insane.
- 1:40:00It's really way more interesting than I thought it was going to be our same.
- 1:40:03It was way better than I was expecting. And these two are going
- 1:40:06to be tough. So number nine. The first name is Monica Bellucci.
- 1:40:11Oh, Monica, it's my mom's name, it is. The second name
- 1:40:15is Lena Hetty, Oh, I know her. The third name is Jonathan
- 1:40:20Price. The fourth name is Gamon. The fifth and final name is Heath
- 1:40:30Ledger. Nice time, it's good guests. It's incorrect, is it the
- 1:40:38Oh? No, that one had Johnny Depp on it stuff? Oh the
- 1:40:42one they made after he died yeas or something? Yes, something, yeah
- 1:40:47not that. Yeah, yeah that would have maybe worked, but yeah no,
- 1:40:53this was the amazing the Brothers Grim film. Oh we didn't either.
- 1:41:01And here's number ten. The first name is mad Damon. I didn't remember
- 1:41:08him even being in this movie. The second name is f Murray Abraham oh
- 1:41:15yeah, I hate Murray Abraham him as him Eric. Yes, no,
- 1:41:21it's probably too early, but if you don't remember a minute, was it
- 1:41:24Amadas? No? God, he is amazing in Sally or as Sally Harry
- 1:41:30one of my favorites. Yeah, for sure. Um. The third name
- 1:41:35is Anna Paquin the piano. These are yep movies they were in the fourth
- 1:41:45name is Rob brown Erica in the fifth and final name, I'm just playing
- 1:41:55like Eric. Pet is Sean Conry. I don't know. Four three Celebrity
- 1:42:05Jeopardy. You'ld the man now dog. This was a movie called Finding Forrester.
- 1:42:15Oh, I remember I watched that movie started dash she was his She
- 1:42:20was the girl main guys love and love interest. She was wasn't She was
- 1:42:24kind of like egging somebody on to be a better student Navy or something exactly.
- 1:42:30Yea, all right, what did Mattaman doing that movie? Not a
- 1:42:32clue, but he is in it. He plays someone named Sanderson and my
- 1:42:40bonus, my bonus one was gonna be uh this, let's see if you
- 1:42:44guys would have got it. It's number one is Josh Hartnett. The second
- 1:42:48name is Robert Downey Junior. The third name is Matt Jamon, the fourth
- 1:42:58name is Emily Blunt, and the fifth name is Killian Murphy. And it
- 1:43:03comes out next week. Openheimer nice another last name movie? He does so
- 1:43:13many? Yeah, that's bizarre, all right, anyway, I thought that's
- 1:43:17man. So next time, like a year from now, and to do
- 1:43:19this again, Rob, tell me some of the answers and fad bugs,
- 1:43:24got you, got you, got you? Then it'll make for better TV.
- 1:43:28Yeah, I got it's it's good. It's fun. No, you
- 1:43:32know, so you know so many actors names. I thought I thought,
- 1:43:36maybe you'd be ruck. Yeah I don't. Yeah, I mean literally the
- 1:43:43beginning of the list. If maybe we would have had a couple more names,
- 1:43:45I would have got them bugs just had the head was fairly quick today.
- 1:43:50He was fairly quick today, surely. But it was fun, Yeah,
- 1:43:58super fun. It was lovely your back on, sir, Thank you
- 1:44:00so much for joining us. You're wonderful. That was very fun, very
- 1:44:05good just to have a good old chat with you guys. Yeah, I
- 1:44:09love it. I have to catch a movie sometime, Yes, dude.
- 1:44:13If Karen Smille comes out with a new movie, we will all go to
- 1:44:15it together. Great, Rob, I need a good nap, I buy
- 1:44:19all your concessions, Rob friend now and nice. You don't know what you're
- 1:44:30signing up for, but yeah, thanks again to air Patto for coming on.
- 1:44:34If you guys need a bass to fill in for your acapella group,
- 1:44:36give him a call around. We can do it. Check it out and
- 1:44:42stick with us. Next time we're going to cover We're the Millers, which
- 1:44:45will be very fun and very much on the same vibe as today. So
- 1:44:50let's stick around for that war h Yeah, same same kind of thing.
- 1:44:55But that does it today for saving Private Ryan. I'm Rob Lindquist, I'm
- 1:45:00Bux. Thank you guys so much for listening. Until we talk to you
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