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Cutting the bovine excrement surrounding the Tate case | HBR Talk 332 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: So let me switch back to that page. Hello, and
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  Speaker 1: welcome to HBr Talk three thirty two, Cutting the bovine
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  Speaker 1: excrement surrounding the tape case. I'm your host, Hannah Wallen
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  Speaker 1: here with the personification of perceptivity of Mike Stevenson and
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  Speaker 1: nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks, and tonight we're going to dig
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  Speaker 1: through a lot of bullshit to find a few scant facts,
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  Speaker 1: because there's really not a lot of factual stuff published
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  Speaker 1: about this. There's a lot of hype and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of posturing and a lot of narrative control, but not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of here's the bear facts, and this is
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  Speaker 1: what the actual implication of these bear facts would be.
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  Speaker 1: And I could not find anywhere where the actual ruling
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  Speaker 1: was published. If somebody else has that, I would appreciate
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  Speaker 1: a copy of it, because then we can go over
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  Speaker 1: that in another show. But we'll go over what what
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  Speaker 1: is available. And I will say this ahead of time.
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  Speaker 1: We are neither here to hate on Andrew Tate or
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  Speaker 1: promote Andrew Tate. I don't give her rat's ass about
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  Speaker 1: his philosophy's beliefs and all that stuff. That's that's his business.
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  Speaker 1: And anybody that decides they want to listen to him.
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  Speaker 1: That's their business. You know, I don't necessarily advocate for
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  Speaker 1: or against people selling what they consider to be self
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  Speaker 1: help stuff and other people choosing to buy it. You
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  Speaker 1: are responsible for yourself if you make those decisions. But
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  Speaker 1: but when it comes down to it, the guy could
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  Speaker 1: be the world's biggest asshole. He could be the dumbest
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  Speaker 1: guy on the planet. He could be the biggest scam
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  Speaker 1: artist on a planet. He could be all of those things,
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  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't care care when it comes to discussing
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  Speaker 1: due process, because none of those things apply to a
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  Speaker 1: person's right to the same processes in the court system,
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  Speaker 1: unfettered by bias that everyone else has. So we're going
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  Speaker 1: to discuss that tonight. We're going to discuss the implications
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  Speaker 1: of the way his case has been handled, and we're
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  Speaker 1: also going to talk a little bit about if you
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  Speaker 1: face a false allegation, what's the one thing you can
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  Speaker 1: do to discourage future false accusers, And because that's mister
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  Speaker 1: Tate did that, and it's it looks like it's going through.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into all of that.
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  Speaker 2: To some degree, we're here to talk about whatever people
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  Speaker 2: are talking about yeah, if we're not quickly enamored with
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  Speaker 2: whatever subject people are talking about, the chat is saying
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  Speaker 2: they can hardly hear me. I'll wait for the chat
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  Speaker 2: to confirm that I they can now nod.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's important because from I don't have anything on
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  Speaker 1: OBS telling me that you're too quiet. So OBS is
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  Speaker 1: actually telling me that I'm too loud quite frequently. It's
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  Speaker 1: going up into the red So I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I actually.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say that you're a little loud for me,
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  Speaker 3: So maybe it's a comparison thing, but yeah, no, I
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  Speaker 3: can hear you both.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of weird.
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  Speaker 2: Try to help us out. Okay, it's better now talk.
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  Speaker 1: Is lower, but better now, that's good. Mister three or
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  Speaker 1: three is like pointed out that. Okay, so I'm minimize
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  Speaker 1: this and this and re I have like a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of tabs open here, so bear whip me a second
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  Speaker 1: because I can't find the one has the restream chat.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I closed it there it is okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't tell what the restream is saying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a song said he's had that issue with OBS.
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  Speaker 1: Do you do concrete shoes? I don't know what that's
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  Speaker 1: in reference to Richard Vierre, but it sounds ominous one
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  Speaker 1: of these days. No, I probably won't explain the family
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  Speaker 1: member I had that was actually killed by the mafia.
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  Speaker 1: I will just say that a part of my family
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  Speaker 1: is firmly entrenched in New York. We'll leave it at that.
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  Speaker 1: But in any case, you had to mention concrete shoes,
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  Speaker 1: and they don't always that's stereotypical, though sometimes they like taxis.
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  Speaker 1: But in any case, let's get into the rat killing here.
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  Speaker 1: are going to get to the rat killing. This is
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  Speaker 1: this is the most accurate thing that I have seen
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  Speaker 1: published about the story. It says this is this is
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  Speaker 1: from a k U l R eight dot com. It's
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  Speaker 1: a I believe television station's website. And this is just
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  Speaker 1: AP feed. That's a bunch of things that AP sends out.
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  Speaker 1: This to all broadcasters they said out, you have to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times people radio stations in particular will
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  Speaker 1: just like read it off verbatim. I used to do
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  Speaker 1: We actually broadcast through the phone lines and you could
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  Speaker 1: all the things that you would have to do. And
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  Speaker 1: it was actually a school that was started and run
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  Speaker 1: by the Mennonite Church. Wasn't You didn't have to be
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  Speaker 1: Mennonite to go there, because I wouldn't have been able.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 1: So it had a lot of restrictions. It actually had
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  Speaker 1: more restrictions. But one of the things we did used
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  Speaker 1: to do was we got this ap feed. And the
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  Speaker 1: reason I know that you have to pay for it
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  Speaker 1: to get it is because when the university decides that
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  Speaker 1: decided that it wasn't worth it, they quit paying for
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  Speaker 1: it and then we quit having access to it. So
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  Speaker 1: but this says Buchareste Romania. A court in Romania has
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  Speaker 1: ruled that prosecutor's indictment against influencer Andrew Tait contains multiple irregularities.
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  Speaker 1: It gives them less than a week to amend or
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  Speaker 1: withdraw the case of alleged human trafficking, rape and forming
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  Speaker 1: a criminal gang to sexually exploit women. The ruling by
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  Speaker 1: the Bucharest Court of Appeal is a major setback for
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  Speaker 1: Romania's anti organized crime agency, which much must act within
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  Speaker 1: five days. Tate and his lawyer are celebrating. Tate has
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  Speaker 1: denied all the allegations, so all of these things are true.
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  Speaker 1: The lawyers are faced with having to recollect a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of statements, they can't use a bunch of things they confiscated,
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  Speaker 1: and there are some other things that have been basically
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  Speaker 1: thrown out that they're going to have to replace, and
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  Speaker 1: doing that in five days is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: hell of a challenge.
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  Speaker 2: It would be nice if the mainstream media who reports
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  Speaker 2: on this had to add a sort of legal clarification,
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  Speaker 2: like Sonny Houstin did on the View recently twice when
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  Speaker 2: she repeated a bunch of bullshit about Matt Gates. It'd
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  Speaker 2: be nice if every mayde amestream out there that goes
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  Speaker 2: has been accusable, if they there had to come back
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  Speaker 2: two minutes later and say, our lawyers have told us
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  Speaker 2: to say that has denied all these allegations. Wasn't that
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful moment?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, being accused doesn't make you guilty right now, What's
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  Speaker 1: what's interesting is, uh, feminists will claim this man is
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  Speaker 1: represented a representative of all men, right, and they'll claim
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  Speaker 1: he's popular, and they'll cite him as an example of
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  Speaker 1: masculinity and why masculinity is toxic. Right. They will ignore
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  Speaker 1: billions of other men to focus on this guy while
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  Speaker 1: doing nothing to counter any popularity that he is actually acquiring. Because,
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  Speaker 1: to be fair, he is popular, and he's popular partly
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  Speaker 1: because he is calling women on their bullshit. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whether we like the way he's doing
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  Speaker 1: it or not, doesn't matter whether we like what he's
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  Speaker 1: marketing or not. If you create a void where boys
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  Speaker 1: are constantly told that their masculinity makes them bad and
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  Speaker 1: that girl's femininity makes them good, and that they have
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  Speaker 1: to defer to women in girls' sensibilities at all times,
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  Speaker 1: but theirs don't matter. If you create a circumstance in
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  Speaker 1: which they have no pathway to forming relationships with the
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  Speaker 1: opposite sex that seems legitimate and is going to not
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  Speaker 1: result in them getting into some kind of trouble. If
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  Speaker 1: you create a circumstance where there is no right thing
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  Speaker 1: they can do, and there is no good thing they
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  Speaker 1: can do, and there's nothing they can do to avoid
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  Speaker 1: being browbeaten by the women around them and greater society
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  Speaker 1: in general, the men that are older than them, and
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  Speaker 1: so on. You create a void by denying them all
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  Speaker 1: sense of positive identity and all sense of positive masculinity.
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  Speaker 1: The first guy who seems popular with the ladies and
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  Speaker 1: who talks tough and has very much confidence in his
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  Speaker 1: proposed solutions to their problems, they're going to listen to him.
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  Speaker 1: It's the one thing, the one and only thing that
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Peterson and Andrew Taate have in common. Well, there's
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  Speaker 1: two things. Actually. They both have said things that are wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and they both have said things that are correct, So
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  Speaker 1: they've got two things in common. And unfortunately, in both cases,
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  Speaker 1: people's reactions have been dumb, in my opinion, to a
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  Speaker 1: lot of what they've had to say. So that's our
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  Speaker 1: first thing, is we've settled the bare facts are that
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  Speaker 1: the court has ruled the prosecutor's indictment contains irregularities. A
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  Speaker 1: bunch of evidence was thrown out. They're given they're being
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  Speaker 1: given the opportunity to fix that and then bring the
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  Speaker 1: case back to court. And they have five days from
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  Speaker 1: the date that this occurred, so they're they're already into
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  Speaker 1: that five days, and so we'll see if they can
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  Speaker 1: do it or not. There isn't anything else that applies here.
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  Speaker 1: There's not some other bit of information that has come
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  Speaker 1: out that changes anything about this. But let's look at
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  Speaker 1: what the lawyer for the Tape Brothers has to say. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: just I wasn't one hundred percent sure. I haven't really
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  Speaker 1: been following the case that much. When various social or
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  Speaker 1: not social media but search engines promoted what this guy
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  Speaker 1: had to say, It's like, why why is it are
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  Speaker 1: they promoting this guy specifically? So I finally went to
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  Speaker 1: the Tate Brothers feed and no one behold Tristan Tate
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  Speaker 1: tweeted this out as the most accurate description of what happened,
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  Speaker 1: and he does introduce himself as their attorney. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he had tweeted it if he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: their attorney. So that's how I That's how I confirmed
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  Speaker 1: this before I go into it for anybody else that
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  Speaker 1: was really not following the case, you know, like because
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  Speaker 1: I really was not following the case, that's confirmation that
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  Speaker 1: this is the official statement from their camp. So let
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  Speaker 1: me and you guys are watching my screen, right, Mike
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  Speaker 1: and Lauren. Okay, yep, Let's see if I can get
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  Speaker 1: this to play. We may have the same problem we
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  Speaker 1: had before because I didn't download this. See what happens.
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  Speaker 1: It's not very long, it's three minutes, so it shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be a big problem.
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  Speaker 4: This is Joseph McBride, counsel for Andrew and Tristan Tape.
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  Speaker 4: Andrew and Tristan have maintained since the inception of the
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  Speaker 4: nefarious Romanian criminal case against them for human trafficking that
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  Speaker 4: they are one hundred percent innocent and that all the
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  Speaker 4: allegations against them are unequivocally false. Today, a Romanian judge
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  Speaker 4: ruled that the lions share of the evidence against them
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  Speaker 4: will be excluded from the trial phase. This is huge news, folks.
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  Speaker 4: This means that the vast majority of the allegations, especially
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  Speaker 4: the allegations by the female co conspirators who lie through
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  Speaker 4: their teeth and out of their rear ends about the
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  Speaker 4: allegations against Andrew and Tristan, cannot be used.
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  Speaker 2: They do have teeth down there.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, they probably have more teeth than ninety they're younger,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Throw their teeth and out of the rens.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean they.
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  Speaker 2: Say women have teeth down there, and.
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  Speaker 1: You've heard of vagina dian Todd. Oh, well, you know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Suppose they'll chew it off. It's true.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: This torpedoes explodes, decimates. It is a fatal blow to
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  Speaker 4: the Romanian prosecution against Andrew and Tristan.
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  Speaker 1: So the one thing I'll point out here just from
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  Speaker 1: because I've I've been involved in way too many court
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  Speaker 1: cases for one person, and yeah, they spelled innocent is
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  Speaker 1: innocent and innocent. But let's let's point out here this
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  Speaker 1: this sounds more like the monologue in a you know,
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  Speaker 1: of one of the wrestlers in a pro wrestling match
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  Speaker 1: than an attorney, and I'm aware of that, but it
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  Speaker 1: does this sounds it doesn't. There are different ways that
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  Speaker 1: different lawyers handle things. Some lawyers don't want you to
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  Speaker 1: talk about their case at all. Right, it was like,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna keep mum about this until we go to trial.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want media bias and we don't want media
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  Speaker 1: influence in the court. And I've seen that a few times,
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  Speaker 1: more than a few times, like everything can come out afterward,
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  Speaker 1: but keep mum about it until till that happens. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times that's when they're defending a client
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  Speaker 1: that is accused of something serious, very you know, very
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  Speaker 1: serious like this, where they're fighting a hard case. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of evidence that is substantial, and it's one
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  Speaker 1: of those where a prosecutor is trying to parlay a
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  Speaker 1: preponderance of evidence into beyond a reasonable doubt when the
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  Speaker 1: preponderance of evidence is all flimsy. And I've seen that
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  Speaker 1: more than once in cases that you know, Like, I've
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  Speaker 1: talked to guys about what they can do to help
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  Speaker 1: their lawyer make his case. And the thing that my
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  Speaker 1: biggest piece of advice to guys is never stop documenting
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  Speaker 1: on once you know you're dealing with someone you can't trust.
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  Speaker 1: Keep receipts, keep recordings, keep all communications, emails, text messages, everything,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, make sure it's organized. If you get
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  Speaker 1: paperwork from the individual or from the other side, keep that.
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  Speaker 1: It's all very important that you have all of the
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  Speaker 1: information that you're attorney needs to draw on in order
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  Speaker 1: to fight your case. And I even I've even recommended
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  Speaker 1: to guys get yourself a loose leaf binder, maybe like
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  Speaker 1: two inches thick or more, and every piece of paper
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  Speaker 1: that is remotely related to your case, even if it's
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  Speaker 1: something that actually, uh probably isn't going to be usable,
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  Speaker 1: you know, have it, keep it, keep it in plastic
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  Speaker 1: cheating put it in that binder, put a label on
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  Speaker 1: it that says what it is and when it happened.
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  Speaker 1: Organize it by date or topic, the things that you
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  Speaker 1: are using, the things that you aren't. Work with your
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  Speaker 1: lawyer on organizing it if necessary. Like in one instance,
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  Speaker 1: I had a guy who was written up at work
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  Speaker 1: because his false accuser came in and raised a ruckus,
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, she was obviously terrified, so terrified of
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  Speaker 1: him that she had to be wherever he was right
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  Speaker 1: and he got the write up. He got his copy
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  Speaker 1: of the write up, and I was like, Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: should go in your file. Because if she's arguing that
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  Speaker 1: she's so scared of you that she needs a restraining order,
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  Speaker 1: and she showed up at a workplace that she didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to go to because she knew you were there
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  Speaker 1: in order to start an argument with you in public,
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  Speaker 1: and it affected your standing at work, that's relevant to
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  Speaker 1: your case. Your attorney might want that information, might want
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  Speaker 1: to hand that information and say, she's so scared of him,
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  Speaker 1: why did she show up here? And it turns out
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  Speaker 1: the attorney did want that information and it was used
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  Speaker 1: in the case, and it did part contribute at least
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  Speaker 1: in part to the dismissal of the restraining order. Because
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  Speaker 1: if you need a restraining order to keep someone from
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  Speaker 1: coming near you, that means that you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be near them, And if you go near them, then
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  Speaker 1: you're proving that you're not averse to being near them. Duh.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, this is it is not what I'm accustomed
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  Speaker 1: to as like the norm, but I've seen it before
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  Speaker 1: and it does not indicate an attorney that doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: what he's doing or isn't professional. I think it's in
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  Speaker 1: it's connected to the personality of the people he's representing.
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  Speaker 1: They probably had the money to shop around and they
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  Speaker 1: found an attorney that they liked and probably an attorney
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  Speaker 1: that they could identify with somewhat. So this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: his style is similar to their style play.
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  Speaker 4: The Romanian court gave the Romanian prosecutors five days. The
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  Speaker 4: clock is ticking, folks five days to cure the defects
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  Speaker 4: in their evidence, whether it has to do with the
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  Speaker 4: integrity of the evidence, how the evidence was obtained lawfully
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  Speaker 4: versus unlawfully, or the absolute barrage of inconsistencies of the
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  Speaker 4: witness statements against Andrew and Tristan. Folks that are not
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  Speaker 4: going to be able to cure these defects. The Romanian
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  Speaker 4: case has been falling apart for a long time. It
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  Speaker 4: was just dealt a fatal blow. It is not going
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  Speaker 4: to be able to recover. Andrew and Tristan Tate are innocent.
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  Speaker 4: This is why they sued for defamation in Florida against
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  Speaker 4: the female co conspirators who defamed them both in Florida
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: and in Romania and in other places throughout the world.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: So before we go on with more of his statement
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that brings up Now this is from Radio Free Europe.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's showing. It doesn't show on
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the screen up here, but the it probably shows for
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: my co host. It's not showing for the for the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: live stream. So everybody's asking, who's the third Badgeral, I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: don't know which ones are the first two? But uh
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: so uh, to repeat the introduction here, it's it's me Hannah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Then we have the personification of perceptivity, Mike Stevenson. Who
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: is who is the panda in the image?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Aunt famous?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd you'd have to know the cartoons that that
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Mike made for us, And actually if you haven't seen them,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you absolutely have to go watch them. They're great.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: No, they're not.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: The hilarious but uh. And then and then we have
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: lan Brooks, the nonsense annihilator. No one cuts through bullshit
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: better than Lauren. So so that's so you guys know, Uh,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the article. By the way, yes, the chat can see
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the article. I don't know if they can see the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty head header at the top
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: though I think they can't because it's covered up by
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the more Badger banner. Yeah, but so that's where this
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: comes from. That's the source. And and actually it says
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: by ap so defamation case filed by Tape Brothers can proceed.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Florida Judge rules. If you thought Florida man was interesting,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: by the way, sometimes just go through and look up
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Florida Judge. Florida Judge has to have never ending patience
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: because of how frequently Florida Judge has to deal with
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Florida man and Florida woman.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Oh god, yeah, the body cam footage that comes out
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: of that state absolutely proves it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: It's we rag on Florida. But I'm from Ohio and
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't do that because Florida man. Florida man might
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: try to eat your face, right, but Ohio man will
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: plaster it with a hot pizza as by means of assault.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: So Florida man is weird and scary. Sometimes Ohio man
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: can be kind of just ridiculous. Although it was Ohio
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: woman will bite your balls off, so that's a little
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: weird too.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Don't get me started on British man. He will he will.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Wait, I thought that was Asian man.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: No, it's a British man in the media.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Uh well, in any case.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Ironically, we're talking about right here. There are there are
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: many reasons I don't like.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: And J and yeah, yep, this picture looks like he's
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a teacher in federal classroom full of students that all
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: did the same bad thing at once, and he is
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: just about to unload on them. But that's just not
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: who this guy is in any case. So a judge
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: in the US state of Florida ruled on July twenty
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: fourth that a defamation lawsuit filed by internet influencer everybody
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: calls him internet influencer, all this stuff he did before
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: he was an influencer doesn't matter. Andrew Tait against a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Florida woman who accused him of imprisoning her in Romania
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: can go to trial. So he's suing her in Florida.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And if I understand correctly, she's in Florida. So I
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: don't know how she's in prison in Romania. She's in Florida.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: The judge ruled that the former professional kickboxer finally they
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: actually mentioned his previous existing stuff and his brother Tristan
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: thirty six, So the thirty seven and thirty six can
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: present their allegations to a jury. That the woman in
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two engaged in a plot to extort money
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: from them. The British American brothers say the woman falsely
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: accused them of trafficking, human trafficking and rape, costing them
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: their freedom and millions of dollars in income from their
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: social media ventures. The brothers are currently awaiting trial in
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Romania on charges of human trafficking, rape, and forming a
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: criminal gang to sexually exploit women. So yeah, here, here
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: we go. Everybody's talking about whether or not we're on
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the right. Everything that isn't communist is on the far right. Now,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: if it's not out and out full on communist, you're
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: on the far right. And communism is apparently on the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: on the you know, the the cusp of the left,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: or it's uh, it's centrism. Communism is centrism. That's that's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: what we get told by the media.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: See, if you can describe politics without using the highly
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: reductive false dichotomy have left and right, it's actually not
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: that difficult, folks.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: So my my political position is chaotic neutral. It doesn't
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: have anything to do with left and right. I'm just
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: chaotic neutral.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: How is a chaotic It's neutral.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Chaotic neutral means you're not chaotic good or chaotic evil.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You function up for no particular reason.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Yes, there we go, hell Lloyd Devine, you nailed it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Oh my god.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: That is the most accurate statement about the way women
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: treat intimate partnership today. Every relationship is trafficking to women.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: In fact, it's not even limited to intimate partnership. The
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: women who experienced motherhood will treat their experience of motherhood
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: as being enslaved. If they have to get a job,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: getting a job makes them enslaved. If they don't have
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: to get a job, being a homemaker makes them enslaved.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: There is no pathway you can open up for a
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: woman that women will not call being trafficked one way
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: or another. But by that, if you consider being being
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: drafted a form of human trafficking, if you consider that enslavement,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: they have all kinds of nasty things to say to
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: you about it. How dare you so? Yeah, they have been.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: This is where I'm gonna come in though, and say,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: if you get accused of something and you didn't do it,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and not only is the individual who accused you unable
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to manufacture a case against you, that puts you in
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: danger of being conveyed falsely, but you can conclusively prove
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: your innocence. For instance, in the seven Years in Hell case,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the accuser at one point claimed that on a certain day,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: at a certain time, the victim broke into her residence
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: and violently raped her. And then he was able to
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: present video evidence proving that during that day and that
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: time he was in a pharmacy at another location nowhere
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: near her residence. Like under that circumstance, that should result
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: in a lawsuit every single time, every woman who does that,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: every accuser who does that, everyone who goes to the
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: cops and tells a lie about another person that results
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: in any kind of investigation, arrest, any prosecution, anything like that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: The victim, if they can bring forth evidence that the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: accuser not only lied but undeniably knew that what they
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: were saying was false, should sue sue for the maximum
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you can sue sue for. And if you're in the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: United States, the stalking and harassment part of the Violence
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Against Women Act applies here because it is it's reasonable
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: to expect that if somebody accuses you of a heinous
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: crime that you didn't commit, that that would result in
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: substantial emotional distress, and if they pursue a case, that's
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: a course of conduct. It's not just one thing, it's
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: not something they do in the moment. So somebody engages
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: in a course of conduct that could be reasonably expected
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: to cause the victim substantial emotional stress, substantial emotional distress
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that makes them guilty of stalking and harassment under the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Violence Against Women Act. And there is a clause in
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the Violence Against Women Act that says that you can't
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: discriminate as law enforcement or as a prosecutor against the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: victim for being male. So once the victim proves that
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: the allegation against him is false, he should then file
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a complaint for stalking and harassment. So Tate did half
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: of what my suggestion is. He sued, and that's the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: easier half because you can file a complaint with police
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and they can just choose not to bring a case.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: You can sue the department for discrimination if they choose
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: not to bring a case because you're a man. But
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: when it comes to civil suits, the department cannot turn
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: around and say no, we're not we're not filing a complaint.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: So if you face this situation and you can make
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a case for defamation, do it. If you can make
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: a case for harassment, do it. If you can make
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a case for stalking, do it. And if the state
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: discriminates against you in terms of prosecution for these things,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: sue them too. That's the only way to create consequences
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: for this for false accusers.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Have to.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: That's why they get away with it, because people don't.
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: They won't pursue it.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: It's like the people who call the cops, but then
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: when the cops get there, oh, I don't want to
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: press charges. Well, what in the world are you calling
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: in there for? You know what I mean? These people
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: that don't face consequences, they do it over and over
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: and over again.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: Yep, you know.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If a few women get bankrupted because they lied
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: about a guy and he came back and held them
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: accountable for it, pretty soon it will have a chilling
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: effect on false accusers. It won't have any effect at
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: all on victims of actual violent crimes, because there will
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: be evidence for their cases when they report to police
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: what has happened. That evidence will be collected and it
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: will be used against the perpetrator in court. So feminists,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: when they complain about this and they say oh, let's
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: love a chilling effect on victims. No, it won't. It
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: will have a chilling effect on perpetrators. Filing a false
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: allegation with police. Filing a false complaint with police is
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: a crime, at least in the United States, it is,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and it is in the UK, it is in Canada
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: anywhere that English common law was the influence behind the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: development of the legal system. There is some definition or
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: standard under which filing a false complaint with police is
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: a crime. Whether it's because you lied to police, whether
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: it's a law against filing a false complaint, whether it's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: a law against wasting police time, all of those it
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: qualifies as all those things. And then if you present
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: false evidence, if you manufacture evidence. The accuser in the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: seven Years in Hell case did that too. She made
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a recording of another guy's voice and then tried to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: turn it in as evidence of something that the victim did.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: And it was such a lame effort that the accent
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: made it obvious that not only was it not the victim,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: but it was a guy who was a different race
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: than the victim. It was that bad. So yeah, and
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the courts do not hold these women accountable for this,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: right she broke just about every process law. She committed
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: just about every process crime she could commit under US law.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And every time his attorney said, is she going to
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: be held accountable by the court for perjury for submitting
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: manufactured false evidence, for lying to police during an investigation,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: for filing false complaints? Nope. The local domestic violence victim's
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: advocate that was assigned to her case strong armed the
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: court and basically threatened to sue the court for discrimination
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: against the domestic islen's victim because she's a woman if
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: if they hold her accountable for breaking the law in
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: this case, so the only recourse that you have is
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: filing a lawsuit. And the seven years in Hell case,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: what they did was they gathered every last shred of
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: paperwork that they had to deal with because of this
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: woman from the courts. For those who haven't read this,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: this is a case that I wrote about in twenty
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: thirteen in on a Voice for Men website, So you
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: probably can find it by searching you a Voice for
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Men website for my name and seven years in Hell
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: with seven spelled out, but if not, my original A
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Voice for Men account name was Gloria Sass. It's an
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: old prank name. If you don't know why it's funny,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: say it fast. And there's a story. I'm not gonna
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: tell behind that, but I did tell it on the site.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I've told it here before too. But in any case,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: that case was the reason that I went from just
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: being you know, anti feminist to being a men's rights
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: activist because that case demonstrated to me and I actually
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: it's the reason that I ended up looking into the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: policy and the law to figure out why I kept
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: seeing this happen to people. I knew that. I realized
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: that activism needed to occur to get people to get
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: behind changing the law because the law is facilitating this
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. I don't know. Romania is a different story.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not intensely familiar or intrinsically familiar with the court
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: system or the legal system in Romania. I know that
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: it has in the past been entirely corrupt, and my
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: impression is that it still is very corrupt. So I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know how this is going to turn out.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen, but it's interesting.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting turn of events.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: They were ravaged by the communist revolution along with every
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: country in Russia's vicinity. Yeah, and all that, but that
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: they're coming off the back of it, which is what
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: makes them so different from countries like the UK and
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the USA, where they're just coming into it, where they're
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: just discovering, well, the government's in charge of our countries
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: are just discovering all the things that communists do. But
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: they don't call it communism. They call it anything but
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: communism because it's it's conducted along the lines of sex
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and race rather than along the lines of class. Right,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: And despite everything we've yelled at them for the for
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: the past ten eleven, twelve years or so, they're not
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: quite getting it. And even even those who are just
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: open nominal communists, they still think this isn't communism, This
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: is just they call it progress, they call it political correctness,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: they call it woke, they call it all kinds of things,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: anything to disguise it from the thing that has destroyed
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: every country it's it's ever ravaged. And yeah, this is
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the difference between these Eastern European countries like Romania and
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: these Western European countries like US and like USA and
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Canada are basically Western European countries at that point, and
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: and it's it's gonna take us longer to get over
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: it because we're much bigger countries with much more geopolitical influence.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, at some point we're going to suffer the
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: same fate. We're gonna we're going to see we see
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: our countries utterly destroyed, and we hope we come out
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: of the end of it by realizing that communism is
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: to blame for all of this, or some iteration of communism,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: some retranslation of communism. But yeah, in in in Romania,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: they've they've they've begun to escape the communism and they
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: and they recognize what it did to them. But at
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the same time, there's these there's there's these left over
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: authoritarian well the corruptions that that it's difficult for any
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: government to let go of, because governments love corruption, they
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: love anything that that that can give them the wherewithal
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: two to enact absolute totalitarian power over their citizens. And
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: and and to some degree they're still doing that, and
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: they don't call it communism either. Now in Romania, they
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: don't realize that they're still working with the leftover scraps
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: of communism, while in in Western Europe you don't realize
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: we're dealing with the the the the leading chunks of
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: of of communism, and is it's all hideous. It's all
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: very difficult to describe, but there it is.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: MH. It does one way to help understand this, and
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: it does always help to understand this, is to remember
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: that every government is a corporation. Government is corporatism without competition.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: In fact, government is owing your soul to the company store. Ye. So,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: so there you go, and communism is basically a pyramid scam,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: at least authoritarian communism. I've never seen communism work without
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: authoritarianism for even a short amount of time. So you
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: have idealist communism that has never actually been tried, and
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: then you have real world communism, which is government run
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: authoritarian communism, and that's a pyramid scheme. So but my
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: ultimate point is, men, you gotta fight back. You cannot
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: take this laying down. And like I said, it doesn't
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: matter whether other people think you deserve it. You don't
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: have to be popular. You don't have to be the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: guy that everybody loves and appreciates because he's done something great.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: You can be the biggest asshole who has no friends
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and has alienated everyone around him. And if somebody lies
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to police about you and you get arrested for something
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: you didn't do, you still should be entitled to do process,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and you still should retaliate. Once you are able to
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: prove a case, you should retaliate by filing a lawsuit.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: And in most cases that's going to be a lawsuit
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: for defamation, stalking, or harassment or both all three. Maybe
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: in the seven years in Hell case, what they suit
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: for was vexatious litigation. When they took every piece of
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: paper that had gone through the system targeting this man
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: in for that case, they had four two inch loose
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: leaf binders. They had basically four reams of paper from
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: two county court systems and four police departments. Because when
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: one police department stopped accepting her bullshit, she just started
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: with another one. And when one court system stopped catering
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: to her bullshit, she started with another one. And so
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: she started the case in Montgomery County and it ended
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: in Green County, and that's when she was found to
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: be a vexatiously again. The judge ordered that she couldn't
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: do anything else to him under the law. No allegations
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: to police, no cases brought against him, for any reason.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: She couldn't even pursue a child support case against him.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: He had custody of the child, so she couldn't even
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: do that. The only thing that she could do was
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: file for reduction of her child support obligation, and that
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: pretty much turned her into nothing but an angry noisemaker.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: And the last that I heard of her, she showed
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: up at their child's graduation and had a childish temper
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: tantrum in front of all the other parents, and everybody
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: just kind of stared at her until she left, and
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: that was it. That was all the power she had left,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: was the power to humiliate herself in public. So that
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: that is what needs to happen now. This method, documentation, organization,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and fighting back only works for the innocent, So there
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be anybody objecting that this is an attack on victims.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: This is a means for victims to fight back against criminals.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Filing a false allegation with police as a crime, Pursuing
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: it in the court system is another crime. Presenting false
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: evidence is a crime. Lying in court is a crime.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: So the target of those actions is the victim of
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: a crime or multiple crimes. The person perpetrating those actions,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: is not a victim and is not associated with victims,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with victims, and victims are not
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: a shield for her. So back to the attorney here,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: we have, like I think, a minute and a half left,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: maybe two minutes, depending on whether he just goes back
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: to posturing.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: We published the truth regarding what happened in Romania and
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: the falsity of the allegations against Andrew and Tristan some
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: time ago. The case is moving well through the Florida
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: courts right now. The Romanian ruling today corroborates everything that
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: we've been saying. These people, these women have been lying.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Andrew and trist and Tate are innocent. They have in
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: fact been defamed. They were wrongfully accused, wrongfully canceled, wrongfully incarcerated,
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: and they are entitled to damages. It is unconscionable that
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: two good men, two men who loved the country that
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: they were born in the United States of America, who
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: loved the country that they had grew up in the
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: United Kingdom, have been the targets of horrible character assassination
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: attempts that have sought to take away their money and
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: their freedom simply because they have a message of male
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: empowerment that gravitates toward young men across the world.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: So I do believe that that's why they were accused.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily make a judgment call as to whether
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: they're good men or not. We'll say that, yeah, that's what.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I would not describe the Taste as good men, and
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't describe them morally speaking as innocent men. That
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: would be that would be a naive thing to say.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: But legally speaking, they are innocent. The people they've exploited,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: more than anything, are the men that they deceive into
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: into simping for these for these whores on on their
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: online enterprise or whatever. These these women knew exactly what
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: they were doing, They knew exactly what they were getting
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: themselves in for, but they opportunistically decided to try and
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: press charges. Perhaps not on their own, perhaps they were
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: goaded into it by by certain legal officials or whatever.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: But far too many people overlook the the stark fact
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: if if the Tates are exploiting anyone, it's men, it's
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: it's these' it's these online simps who who fall for
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: their bullshit. I think I'm legally allowed to call it bullshit.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: The the the prostitutes that they're employing, and I think
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I can call them prostitutes are willing prostitutes, and they
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: were always willing prostitutes. They always had the option not
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: to do this, but they they went in and did
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: it anyway for the same reason only fans prostitutes to
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: do this, And I think I could legally call them
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: prostitutes too. There's there's no shortage of women who are
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: ready and willing to sell their bodies for extortionate amounts
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: of money, and that's that's what's going on here. They
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: did that to exploit men, and then they thought, oh,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I could exploit the tats as well.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: So I'll put I'll point out this all right. I've
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: worked in two bakeries, and in both bakeries we sold doughnuts,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: and we sold cakes and pies and cookies with way
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: too much icing on them. This one type of brownie
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: recipe that involved three layers of brownie with basically crack
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: in icing form in between them, and it was all
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: horribly unhealthy stuff that nobody should ever eat, right, And
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: so I sold things to people that are the things
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: that that are basically responsible for causing people to gain
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the weight that that then triggers metabolic disorders that they
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: might be genetically predisposed to have, like right.
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: Is gonna come and geech you.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I worked in two different bakeries. One of them
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: one of them was a standalone bakery. I didn't own it,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: but I did learn a lot there. And the baker
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: was absolutely highly skilled. His stuff was delicious and marvelous
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: and great, and I miss it very much because, you know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: the guy retired and then the bakery closed. But I
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: also worked at a grocery store bakery, and that stuff
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: was pretty formulaic. It was a lot of the items
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: that we made, we pre manufactured parts of the recipes
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and so a lot of what
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I did there was open up big bags of the
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: dry ingredients already mixed and dump them into a bowl
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: and then add the wet ingredients and mix it up
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and and and everything. Uh So, so I was the
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: one that made the donuts, getting up at you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning to get to the get
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: to the bakery, or arriving at the bakery at two
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning time to make the donuts for
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: all the gen xers that remember those commercials, Right.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: I definitely remember that commercial.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: So what was I exploiting? Was I exploiting sugar addicts?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Or are people responsible when they consume something that is
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: not healthy for them? Like, so I don't necessarily state
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: approval for all of that in terms of yeah, there's
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: stuff that people should at least moderate their consumption of.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: If you want to eat a donut, eat a donut,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Eating twenty seven of them is a bad idea. Eating
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a donut every day is a bad idea. But you know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: having a donut now and then isn't necessarily that big
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: of a deal, right, And donuts are just bread that
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: is sweetened and fried. There's not a whole lot of
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: difference between used donuts and vignettes, So like, it's not
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: that big of a deal now. The big deal then
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: is when they put other things in the donuts that
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: are unhealthy that you wouldn't put in when you're baking
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: them at home. That gets into a whole new ballgame there, Right,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: But when it comes to porn, I have the same opinion.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: All right, if you have a lack of control over
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: your consumption of this, seek help, you know, go to
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: a doctor and get help. People do that when they
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: have a lack of control over their consumption of sugar
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: and other foods. They do it when they have a
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: lack of control over their consumption of alcohol or drugs,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: or their lack of consumption of any type of media. Right,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: it's all pretty much the same type of weakness vulnerability,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and a rather large portion of the population has that
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: type of vulnerability to something, even if it's not all
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: the same stuff. It's not. It's not the fault of
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: the people who who create it and sell it. When
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: you consume it more than is healthy. I don't think
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that it's necessarily unhealthy for for people to enjoy and
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: appreciate sexuality and nudity and all that. What I do
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: think is unhealthy is when it is your soul outlet,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: when it's something that you can't keep yourself from doing,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and in circumstances, is where you experience negative consequences for
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: doing it. And when it comes to the women involved,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of those women made a lot of money, right,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: A lot of those women had the benefits of living
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: with a rich man, and they seem to be able
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: to go wherever they wanted to do, and go and
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: do whatever they wanted to do. Right. That's that's not
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: being imprisoned. And a lot of those women came forward
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: and said, we're doing this voluntarily. We're with him because
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: he makes us money, he makes us rich. Right, that's
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: pretty straightforward. That's not a victim. Right, These women are
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: not being exploited, and I don't consider the consumers of
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: their product to be exploited either. Now, it doesn't necessarily
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: mean that. It's also it's the smartest idea, the best
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: idea to get involved in that profession, in that industry
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: unless you are prepared to handle the consequences of being
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: involved in that industry. You have to be ready to
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: deal with the fact that people have opinions about your
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: character related to being in that industry. It's not something
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: that you can dictate, right. You have to be ready
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: to deal with the fact that people who consume the
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: products of that industry and the services of that industry
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: can have boundary issues, and so can the producers, the
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: people that produce the products. You have to be prepared
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: to stand up for yourself and set and defend your
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: boundaries and enforce your interests, and you have to be
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: prepared to deal with the fact that you're not going
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: to be You don't get to do that and then
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: be viewed as a sweet, innocent virgin, a little little girl, right,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: And it should be understood that if you're going to
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: be a star because you're sexy and you're willing to
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: get naked, that you're going to lean into that and
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: enjoy the attention because you're seeking attention, and enjoy the money,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: and set your boundaries and you know, you define how
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: you are going to form bridges of respect between yourself
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: and the people around you. So it's not a profession
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: for everybody. But I don't believe that it's an exploitative
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: thing in and of itself. Now, that's that's the imagery.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: That's the imagery end of it, all right, But when
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you get into I don't know if the Tate brothers
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: do this or not, because I've deliberately not become familiar
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: enough with them. I know that only fans does a
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: lot of only fans models do this. The girlfriend experience,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: all right. If you are peddling the girlfriend experience and
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: you become aware that the person you're peddling it too
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: has mistaken it for a real relationship girlfriend relationship, it
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: is unethical for you to continue to pedal that experience
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: without drawing clear lines and making sure that your your
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: consumer is aware that the relationship is a pretense, that
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: it's roleplay, and that when you when when a woman
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: or a man, it's usually women that do this, but
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: when a seller of sexual material or companionship material or
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: sex pedals the girlfriend experience, markets the girlfriend experience and deliberately,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: knowingly and wilfully allows someone to mistake it for a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: real intimate partnership in order to make money from them.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: That's exploitative. If you know that you have somebody coming
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: in and demonstrating boundary issues and demonstrating a lack of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: control over their consumption and appearing desperate and showing symptoms
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: of mental health conditions in relation to their consumption, and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: you don't cut them off. It's as exploitative as a
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: bartender who continues to serve drinks to someone who is
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: so drunk that they can't grasp the cup or the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: shot glass to pick it up and drink it all right.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: The person who administers illegal drugs to the buyer because
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: the buyer is already too high to do it for themselves, right,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: that's exploitative and it is the same thing with selling
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: sex and selling relationships. Once you get into pretending that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: it's a it's something that it's not, then you're a predator.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: And my understanding is that where even if the Tape
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Brothers are not having women do that, they are selling
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: men formulas for success with women that a lot of
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: guys think this is one hundred percent or close to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent effective, and that they're protected from consequences
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: of being with the wrong woman if they follow these
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: rules and so on. And I don't think that the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Tape Brothers are unaware that that's not true. I think
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: they're fully aware. I think they were before they were
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: falsely accused. I think they were fully aware that any
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: man can face a false allegation. But by golly, they're
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: aware of it now. So they if they are still
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: selling this idea that you can engage in a set
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: of behaviors and practices that will prevent you from suffering
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: the consequences of trusting the wrong woman, then that's exploitation.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Every guy they sell that too. They're lying to that
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: guy and they know it, and they're taking his money
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: and sending him off into an experience that while they
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: had the money to fight it. The vast overwhelming majority
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: of falsely accused men do not. Funding a defense is expensive,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: and it honestly needs to be part of your defense
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: to file that suit, because you won't be able to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: afford to do it after you're done. And so, yeah,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think the production of porn is exploitative. I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: don't think that selling sex is any more exploitative than
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: selling donuts or beer or cigarettes. But lying about it definitely.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: And if you're lying about it in any way, shape
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: or form in order to increase the chances that people
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: will buy it from you, then yeah, that's exploitative.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: And yeah, prosecuting your employer for giving you a job
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: when you could have got a different job, that's.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Pretty exploitative another film. Yeah, Yeah, And that's the thing. Hey, Like,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I've had a lot of different jobs in my life
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: because I'm interested in too many things to just have
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: one job. Right, There's there's a lot of neat things
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: to do in the world, lot of a lot of
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: stuff to try out in a lot of ways to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: engage with people and interact with with people. It kind
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: of sucks that it has always been tradition for people
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: to tie themselves to one thing and just do that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: for thirty years and then not try something else. Right,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: But I mean, everybody has their own way of handling stuff, right.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: But in any case, yeah, there's there's no reason that
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: you know, if you don't like what you're doing in
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: your job, whether it's retail or porn, which both of
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: them can be equally degrading, and both of them can
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: be equally rewarding, you find something else, do something else.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: There's a gazillion other things out there to do. I
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: have not been the secretary of fight club. Well, we
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: won't talk about how many fights I was in when
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I was a kid. Though not good.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: I don't much care for like the you know, the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: whole porn thing. Like, if you are going to buy
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: into whatever Educate is selling, it's you're gonna be hard
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: pressed to try to talk that person out of doing
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: what they're about to do, right.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: I'm not.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: I don't care if that's what.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: You want to do, If that's how you want to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: spend your time and your money, it's a free world.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: You have free will go go enjoy whatever it.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: Is, right, but be smart about it.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Obviously, for me, it's the accountability, it's the lying, right,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: because now we are in a position in society where
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: it's offensive to even suggest that a woman could be
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: lying about something like this when they so very often do,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: you know. So that's why I'm really glad that they
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: are suing these women or whatever the hell ayre doing,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: but holding them accountable, right, because that's that's the only
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: way that you stop this.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Women just feel like they have they can do whatever
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: they want, you know what I mean, it's it's just
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: free rated.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 7: Who's gonna stop me?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: Right, They keep they and they push.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: It further and further further until someone actually puts their
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: foot down.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: They don't like that, but it's tough, tough titties, you know.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: What I mean.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: You do the crime, you do the fucking time.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Yep, you know. Uh, we got it. We got a
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: salient a rumble rant from nova fan here gave us
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: a dollar and said, people that solely blame tape for
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: men and boys listening to him is like blaming McDonald's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: when a vegan child discovers McDonald's burgers. It's unhealthy. But
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: we can't pin all the blame on the result. I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: guess that the bottom line is is this, Yeah, if
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: you're not lying, if you're not telling somebody something that
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: is not true, promising things that you can't deliver, and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: and then shaming people into not holding you accountable when
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: it doesn't pan out, all right, then it's it's the
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: buyer who needs to take responsibility for choosing the product.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Something that I would say in regard to this is
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: there is only one real solution to the simping problem,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: and that is to arm boys intellectually and psychologically against
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: the vulnerabilities that lead to simping. And our society has
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: spent decades programming those vulnerabilities into them. And I think
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: that the real reason that that the establishment is so
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: angry with Tate, I don't think it has anything. He's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: citing Trump as the reason why he's start starting to
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: suddenly get better treatment in the court system. And that's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: a possibility because the due process violations. They can get
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: away with due process violations against an American if you
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: have a president in the White House that doesn't care
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: about Americans in foreign countries. But in terms of the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: actual targeting, I think they targeted him because he while
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: he's not giving necessarily giving boys the best tools. He's
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: giving them some tools, you know. And it's if you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: have a nail that needs to go into a board
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: and you have nothing to hammer it in with. The
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: guy that hands you a big rock may not be
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: as good as a guy that comes along with a
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: hammer or a nail gun and says, here, let me
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: show you how to do this correctly. But he's better
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: than nothing in the eyes of the person who needs
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: that nail to be in that board. And that's basically
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: what young boys are seeing. What young men are seeing.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: It's not about whether or not the guy is giving
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: good advice. He's giving it in a vacuum. He's giving
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: his advice in a vacuum where they are I think, no,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: I was gonna say, just the the publicity of the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 7: whole case, it does wonders, you know what I mean,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 7: because actually seeing a man hold these women accountable, maybe
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 7: it will make something.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Click in their brains.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't have to just you know, lay down,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: lay back and take it, you know what I mean.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we have returning to the theme of McDonald's.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Donald's used to cook their fries and beef tewel, and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: they ended up changing it. I because vegans and vegetarians complained. Nope,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: but it was not disclosed to them that the that
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: the fries were cooked beef it.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Wasn't vegans and vegetarians it was. It was actually practitioners
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: of a religious belief that precludes the consumption of any
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: product that has beef in it or has touched a
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: product that has beef in it.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: All right, but rather than go on to tell people,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: by the way, our fries are cooked beef tallow, they
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: changed what they cooked it in. And you know what
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: they cooked it in from there on after, right, seed oil,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: favorite seed oils, and and and ever since then they've
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: been feeding people engine oil instead of beef tallow. And
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: and yes, seed oles are basically engine it was it
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: was used as as an engine oil long before it
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: was ever considered fit for huge and consumption. Which it
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: sort of just goes to show you if you complain
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: about the wrong thing in the wrong way, you'll end
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: up getting poisoned even worse than you ever were. Like,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: for whatever reasons you thought beef tallow was bad for you,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: is nothing like as bad for you as seed oils.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: And this is This is all rather emblematic of everything
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: else we're talking about, Like you're you're sort of authoritarian
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: needs to change things just for the sake of changing things.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: When you have no idea why you're changing things or
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: what you're changing them to, can wind you up in
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: a far worse situation. And I guess I say this, try.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: You guys like I.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: Like RFK in a lot of ways. I don't like
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: him in a lot of ways. He's a politician. At
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: the end of the I still get to take the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: piss and yeah, and get that opens a whole the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: tangent of of should should the government be allowed to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: to disrupt private companies in this way? And and and
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: sort of and sort of tell them what they can
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: and can't. It's cooked their frising And in a way,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of it's much like the doughnuts thing that
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: they're selling people sugar thing like, or indeed selling people
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: cigarettes like. Uh, it's as long as people know that
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: cigarettes can kill them, it should. It should be perfectly
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: fine to sell people cigarettes. As long as people know
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: that sugar and seed oils will make will make them
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: fat and kill them, they should they should be allowed
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: to do that. But they should. If you can enforce anything,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: it should be like letting people know, like giving them
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: informed consent, as I believe it's called.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: Any Any trade relationship that does not include informed consent
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: is exploitation by the individual that's hiding shit. Very very simple.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Somebody didn't tell you the whole story in order to
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: persuade you to buy something that you wouldn't buy if
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: you had the whole story. You just got exploited. They're
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: scamming you. That includes feminism. They aren't telling you the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: whole story either. In fact, they aren't even telling you
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: the true story with the part that they are telling you.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, in the case of McDonald's that I never
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: really understood how that lawsuit was taken seriously because if
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I thought that if I was going into a restaurant
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: for you know, I'm going to go out to eat,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: get some food and everything, and somebody was like, Hey,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: let's go to Blood Diner. What do they serve.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: Well, they have.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Soup and sandwiches, they have crackers, they have donuts, they
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: have human flesh. Wait what you said human flesh. No,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. Well, you could get
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: other stuff that's not human flesh. No, I'm not supporting
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: a place that sells human flesh. That would be my response,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: real simple. I don't care what else they sell. The
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: minute you mentioned something that I find absolutely taboo, morally
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: repugnant and horrifying, I'm not going in there. Well, everybody
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: goes there, and if you want to socialize in this country,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: you got to go to Blood Diner. No, no, no,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: I'll eat at home, thank you very much. You can
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: come to my house and have dinner with me if
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: you like. I will not be serving human flesh like
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: That's how I would handle it. It takes work, but
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: that's but yeah, that's just my opinion on the subject.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Suing suing Blood Diner would not be in my purview
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: because it's not my relationship with them. I don't I
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: just simply won't support them. Right If if you don't
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: get the joke, look up Blood Diner. It's an old
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: movie and it's ridiculous, but you should see it at
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: least once.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: That's that's easy enough to do with something that you
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: find morally repugnant, right, or or just against your belief
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: your religious beliefs or whatever. Right, But when it's something
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: that is highly addictive. That's a different story, you know
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: what I mean, Because.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: People listen, I can't.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: I know McDonald's is crap, and I.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Have heard that human flesh actually is highly addictive. I
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: have no idea because I find it morally repugnant and
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: to engage in cannibalism like that's just horrifying, right.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: But you know, I know, oh, I shouldn't eat mcgonald's,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: but that doesn't stop me every once in a while
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: from getting it. You know, some fries every once in
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: a while, even though I know that they're not good,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: and the cooking that crap. You know, it's it's it's
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: hard to do, especially with things like food, and when
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: it comes to sex.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I actually can't chew their fries anymore. If I want
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: to eat fries, I gotta get steak fries and make
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: them at home so that I can eat them without choking.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: That's pretty bad, but it is what it is. But
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: back to back to the situation. I personally, I'm not
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: going to accuse the Tape brothers of exploitation for something
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: they've done. It's legal. If it's illegal, that's a different story.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: I will if I find that they are misleading people
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: into purchasing products or services that they're told is going
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: to be one thing or have one effect, when in
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: fact the truth is it's going to be a different
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: thing and have a different effect, very much like selling
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: somebody a placebo and telling them is going to cure
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: their cancer or their their bacterial infection or stuff stuff
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: like that. So albatross human meat being addictive is one
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: of the concepts behind the wind Togo myth. The Wind
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: to Go is a it's a Native American myth. It
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: has is an individual who indulged in human flesh and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: got so addicted to it they couldn't need anything else,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: and like even chewed off their own lips, like the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: you look up the mythology around the wind Wind to Go,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: you'll you'll see what I'm talking about, terrifying creatures like
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: living zombies basically mh. But that said, we still have
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: a few seconds here, lift I think he's just going
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: to be posturing, but we'll go through it.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Everything that we have said about Andrew and trist and
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: Tate is true. They are innocent. A Romanian court has
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: now found the allegations against them are based in fiction
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: and we're improperly obtained and that there is a multitude
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: of problems with the credibility of the female witnesses against them.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: That case is about to be finished. The American case
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: is about to get a lot stronger. And if you've
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: been on the wrong side of this since day one,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: I encourage you now to get on the right side
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: of history.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: I just most of the posturing I'm not a big
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: fan of, but I just love that people on the right,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: or associated with the right, or using the illusion of
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: being on the right to bolster their popularity or their
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: cases or whatever, taunt the left with that right side
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: of history statement every time. So yeah, I think this
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: is it. He's just posturing. Now he's gonna make declarations
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: because he's an attorney and this is this is the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: case that he's supporting. He's gonna make it make declarations
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: that aren't necessarily supported by what's been reported about the case.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: He also is going to know things about the case
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: that haven't been reported, so you know, he may be
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: confident making these declarations. And I guess in a few
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: within a few days, we're gonna find out what the
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: prosecution does, whether they are able to actually duct tape
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: and bail wire their case. Back together, whether they can
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: get all of this stuff replaced that that was taken
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: away from them in terms of you know, you can't
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: use this, you can't use that, or whether their case
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: is wrecked and they're just gonna drop it there really
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna see a bunch of news articles
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: come out of this too, and see I already did
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: the defamation case thing. I don't know if we're gonna
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: go through and try to read through the whole, this
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: article gives more of a if I remember right, more
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: of a listing. This is the Daily Mail, so grain
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: of salt, guys. But that's true about any establishment media,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: and it's hard to find anything that isn't straight from
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: the Tate Brothers camp versus established media. There's there doesn't
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: seem to be any independent coverage of this. So let's
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: see the court's decision to exclude key evidence and demand
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: rectification of the indictment demonstrates the lack of STI substantiated
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: claims against them. Is what the lead council said. Let's
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: see if it I always sure it gave a list
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: of specific things that some of it was the witnesses
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: that they basically said, you know, these witnesses. Statements were
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: made improperly, and you have to get them under the
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: proper circumstances, Like they got statements from women without telling
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: them that they were making statements about a man who
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: was being charged with human trafficking, and so the women
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: didn't get the opportunity to refrain from incriminating him, if
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: by inference or implication, without you know, overt statements of incrimination,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: if they had wanted to be careful of their words.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: So let's see all everything they appealed. Apparently that got
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: given to them. But I was sure this is where
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I saw, and it might be and it might just
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: have been changed, did you Nope, it's not so. Andrew
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Tait himself did give a list and I read that,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: but I was looking for a different source. So this
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: is probably what we're going to see a lot of
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: whether the case continues or not, whether the prosecutors refile
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: or fix stuff and pursue further or not. What we
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: are going to hear a lot of is fact check.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Andrew Tait human trafficking case has not been dismissed. Andrew
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Kate Tait has not been found innocent. Whatever comes up
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: in the news. If they don't pursue a case it's
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: dropped because they had they lack sufficient evidence. Will be
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: told that it wasn't that there was not sufficient sufficient evidence,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: it's that the evidence all got thrown out of court.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: So here's where due process is of vital importance, absolutely
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: vital importance. Right, this man is never going to be
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: able to fix his reputation. Mhm. He is never going
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: to be able to get people to accept a claim
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: of innocence in regard to this charge, this charge, this
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: set of charges unless they already accepted it from the beginning,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: or unless they've at least already accepted it at this point. Right,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: if the case is dropped, everybody that was gunning for
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: him to be convicted is going to uh declare him
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: a guilty man who got away with a heinous crime. Right,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: That's that's what's going to happen. And because processed crimes
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: do not get prosecuted in cases where women make allegations
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: of violent crime against men, this kind of reputational damage
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: and permanent, permanent reduction of somebody's reach, somebody's ability to
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: engage with the public. That that women get away with that,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: and they will continue to get away with that as
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: long as men allow there to be no consequences, and
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: I can assure you even if I'm seeing he doesn't care.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: He just wants his freedom. The men that I know
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: personally who have been through allegations that were false, defamatory,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: and damaging to their reputation, their earning capacity there they
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: have all suffered for years afterward, seven years in hell.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Guy has post traumatic stress disorder from his experience. He
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: cannot hold a job. He has been eminently disabled by
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: this experience. It's like saying you don't care you want
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: to survive a car accident. It's okay if you lost
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: your legs. The fact that you want to survive and
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the fact that you're you're glad that you didn't die,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're okay with the injuries that you experienced.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah right. It means that you know something being something
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: could have been worse. But even if it wasn't, it
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: was still bad. You know. I like, I've seen guys
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: go through suicide attempts because of false allegations. I know
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: guys who have lost all of the relationships that they
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: relied upon in their lives because of false allegations. You know,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: I know one guy who lost his children, lost his
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: ability to live in the community where the allegation happened,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: had to move, lost his ability to relate to his wife,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: his current wife, and is now getting divorced years after
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: the ordeal. I know guys that have sat in jail.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: I knew a guy that sat in jail for a
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: year on an allegation that basically was I committed a
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: crime against him because I was afraid of him, and
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: it took a year for his appeal to free him.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: He lost family, heirlooms that were near and dear to
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: his heart, and the hearts of other members of his family.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: He lost his whole career path. He ended up having
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: to do something else because even just being arrested for
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: what he was arrested for, having that on his record
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: kept him from guilt, continuing to pursue his career path
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: even after he was acquitted. His conviction was overturned on appeal.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: So the damage that happens to men, you know, men
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: who are not wealthy, men who have very little resources,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: even men who are middle class. It's it's not the
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: same for those guys as it is for somebody like
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, who has millions at his disposal. He runs
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: a media conglomerate and can be his own advocate, and
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: you know, can afford whatever lawyer he wants. The average
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: falsely accused guy, his whole life changes. It's split between
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: before the false allegation and after the false allegation, and
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: it never goes back to just being the same, just
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: being the way it was before. So with that said,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: let's see what Newsweek has to say about this, and
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: this will be like the last little bit. Romania appeals
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: court has found in favor of influencer Andrew Tait this week,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: who is facing multiple charges in Romania, including human trafficking
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: and rape. On Tuesday, the Bucharest Court of Appeal accepted
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: Tate's appeals and those of Tristan Tate. Okay, I don't
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: know how to pronounce this guy's last name, Manuel is
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: it Negel? Okay? Manuela Nagel and Luana Radeu. In their
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: case against Buchareste Tribunal's decision to advance their case to trial,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: the court cited significant irregularity, so even in trying to
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: control the narrative, Newsweek still had to The irregularities were significant.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: Right in the prosecution's case and violations of the defendants'
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: legal rights. Those legal rights are due process. However, in
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: the wake of the decision, misleading claims began appearing on
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: social media overstating the outcome of the court's ruling. The
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Appeal Court's.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: Ruling, misleading is one of those words, a bit like misinformation. Yes,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: when you can't call it false or true, but you
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: know it's true, but you want people to think it's false,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: you use these buzzwords like misleading or misinformation. They know
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: what they're doing that the ironically, they are delivering misinformation
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: by muddying the water as to whether it's false or
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: true when they know that in this case, the allegations
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: off falls, but they want you to think they're true,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: or vice versa or whatever.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Iconra Yeah, So here we go multiple posts on x
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: formerly Twitter, and the link just goes to their topic Twitter,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: not to any Multiple posts posted on November nineteenth, twenty
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: twenty four, claimed that Andrew Tate's human trafficking case had
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: been dismissed. A post on x so their social media
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: posts is what they're reporting on. Newsweek is reporting on
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: social media posts. This is allistical in Newsweek that would
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: be uh, buzz week. We can start calling them buzzweek
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: from now on, right, I don't know who these people
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: are that they're citing. A post on X by Solimon
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: Hakhamed viewed four hundred and fourteen thousand times said, breaking
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: the Tate Brother's case has just been officially dismissed.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: Dict.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it stands for. So Diecott was
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: proven guilty of creating fake evidence against the Tate brothers. Congratulations,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: and then the acts. Another post by doctor Anastasia Maria Lupis,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: viewed eighty six thousand times included the same message as Ahmed, adding,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: people who knows the Tate brothers told you this from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: With grammatical yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Not somebody whose first language is English, I don't know. Weird, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a weird grammatical error. American political commentator Jackson Hinkele,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: who I also have never heard of. It's loop. It's
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: never loopis set into post viewed two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: nine nine hundred times. Breaking the fake human trafficking case
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  Speaker 1: against Andrew tait Ats and Tristan Tate Ats has been dismissed. Congratulations, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that they've cited three posts that and by
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: their definition, went viral. This is a lot like what
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: the hash or the subreddit shitreddit says used to do.
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  Speaker 1: They'd get mad and bitch about posts that got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of views that said things they didn't like these claims.
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  Speaker 1: These claims are inaccurate. Well, the Bucharest Court of Appeal
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  Speaker 1: has ruled in favor of Tate, as reported by readers
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  Speaker 1: from Bucharest. It's ruling states that some evidence from the
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: case file, including victim statements and witness testimonies from the Tates,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: both deemed inadmissible, should be removed. The indictment file contained inconsistencies,
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  Speaker 1: improper descriptions of acts committed by female suspects, and missing
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  Speaker 1: details on the seizures of assets. That sounds a little
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  Speaker 1: corrupt right there. The court ruling states that the investigation
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: office Dykatt has five days to fix these irregularities and
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: decide whether to send the case to trial or withdraw it.
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  Speaker 1: So the description that the Tape brothers have been giving
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  Speaker 1: is that they crippled the case and then gave them
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  Speaker 1: only five days to fix it, if you know, if
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  Speaker 1: they want to continue. A lot of people are calling
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  Speaker 1: that dismissed and dismissed might not be the technically accurate term.
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  Speaker 1: But if the description that the case was crippled by
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: the court and the prosecutor was given insufficient time to
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  Speaker 1: uncripple it, if that's accurate, then that's a way to
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  Speaker 1: dismiss the case without overtly dismissing the case.
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  Speaker 7: Sounds like a win to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take it. They go on in the article
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  Speaker 1: to just describe the allegations here and the fact that
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: there's a lawsuit and there's a UK or arrest warrant,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: so they're not out of the woods. And then they
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  Speaker 1: rule the claim which they could only find three people
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  Speaker 1: on the entire platform to cite as evidence that this
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  Speaker 1: claim is out there. And I imagine that Newsweek probably
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  Speaker 1: published this article because they couldn't They couldn't get a
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  Speaker 1: community note put up.
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  Speaker 2: You needn't believe anything that the UK courts bring against you.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's pretty much known at this point that the
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  Speaker 2: UK has run but not just communists, but full on stalinists.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean the UK Court. The UK Court, in
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: the civil suit that took place there, ruled against dep
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: in that defamation case on the basis of the court's
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: opinion that he was guilty of the abuse. He wasn't
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: found guilty of the abuse, but the court's opinion that
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: he was guilty of the abuse, and therefore it couldn't
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: be defamation, if I understand correctly with that ruling. And
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: then in the American case, the evidence that was presented,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: the evidence that came out, in fact, even the evidence
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: that his accusers side provided made it blatantly obvious that
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: she was the abuser and he was the victim. Like
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty hard to trust anything that the
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: UK courts do after seeing that.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, it's lucky that I'm going to be leaving the
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: UK in two days, bound for the Land of the Free,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: given that Putin could start fucking bombing us any day now,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: as you may have discovered in the Look and in
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: the news recently, because given that the UK government supplied
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: the rockets that were thrown into Russia and Putin went
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: all right, well, this gives me authority to start bombing you.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Darma, fucking awesome, like I I wove for my
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: fellow country man. It's a potty good thing that I
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: will be in Connecticut forty eight hours from now, as
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: long as everything goes to plan I hope yeah. It's uh, it's.
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  Speaker 1: A terrifying prospect. And I mean gen X grew up
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: under in the United States, grew up under constant Russia
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: is going to bomb us any day now, Russia is
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: going to bomb us any daya to the degree where
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: our popular media included music with titles like I hope
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: the Russians love their children too. It's really kind of
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: a depressing If you ever heard that song, it is
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: it's intended to point out that, I think, to point
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: out that mutually assured destruction acts as a deterrent to
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: nuclear war. And it did act as a deterrent. It
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: never you know, played out that we were going to
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: you know, the bombing that we were going to experience
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: never happened. In fact, the only nuclear only nuclear bombs
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: that were ever dropped anywhere in the United States were
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: dropped by our own government. It's just pregnant. Pause there
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: as you do, right, But but we did have that
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: constant Yeah you're all gonna die. You ever you ever
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: want to hear the way that we reacted to it,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: listen to where elves we'd al Yankovic's Happy Birthday.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: It's worth watching out that the UK did nuke the
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: USA a couple of times. All those nuclear tests that
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: were going on in Nevada, the UK dropped a couple
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: of nuclear bombs on on Nevada.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those were part of the nuclear tests. But that
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: was really our own government's doing, because our own government
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: gave that was permitted, permitted, right, so it was in
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: conjunction with the US government. I still blame my government
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: for that. The only the only people that have ever
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: uh dropped a nuke on our country, it's our own,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: our own protectors.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: The vast majority have been dropped on America by America,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: on Russia, by Russia.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: And that's not that's not too.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: That's that's the bombs, right. There's also nuclear accidents that
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: we won't talk about.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: Not to mention all the ones that are yet to happen.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: So there you go.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, uh, I think we're gonna call
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: it at this I don't want to go in any
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: further into it. We do have a bit of information
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: that we're going to go into in a future show,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: uh that I I found it while I was looking
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: for the Tate stuff. And it's it's a pdf. It's
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: it's huge. If I if I'm what I'm seeing is
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: correct when I look at it, it's it's it's a
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: big file. It's not a small file, but it's uh
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: it is. A anti bullying organization has a publication that
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: is intended to be disseminated to schools, to educational facilities
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: and educators to use to combat the influence of the
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: men's rights movement, of pickup artists and of Tate, like
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: the then these guys are all dangerous. I think they
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: might mention Jordan Peterson in it too, because you know, obviously,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: telling young men to take responsibility for themselves and uh
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: clean up their act is just as bad as telling
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: them that women are stupid and it's okay to take
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: advantage of them because they're they're too dumb to to
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: defend themselves, which I don't know if Andrew Tate actually
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: said that, I get I keep getting told by feminists
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: that he absolutely did. The only only people that I've
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: seen actually say that are the people quoting it as
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: something that Tate said. Uh so, so yeah, we we
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: uh we are gonna have to dig into that and
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: see what what they're telling your kids. Teachers to say
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: to your sons and due to your sons, in order
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: to prevent them from listening to anyone with an alternative
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: viewpoint on how to be men from what the school
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: wants to promote. So let's see we also have one
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: more rumble rant Nova fan twenty one gave us a
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: dollar and said, I always found it silly when feminists
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: and lefties claim all work is unethical slavery because my capitalism,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: but also support porn because sex work is real work,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: which is it? So let's look and see if we
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: got super chows because we always get super chows, all right,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: and I am way too far down in the list
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: of one thousand channels here chats, okay, you all right?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: A lot of these are from yesterday. Nope, we don't
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: even have Meredith G's usual super chat or super Chow.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: So everything there is done unless they're not coming through
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: and when they should. I'm gonna look on my laptop
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: because my desktop I have chosen not to upgrade to
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: a newer computer. As long as that one's working, I'm
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: not spending the money, so it's it uses System eight
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: and discord and System eate aren't friends anymore. So let's
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: see here, super cho super chose. My laptop's mad at me.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: Now Nope, nothing showing. Okay, so hopefully nothing is missed.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it's not hiding stuff from me that I should
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: be seeing. But it appears that we do not have
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: any super chows and I don't think we got any
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: super chats either from YouTube. I didn't see any go
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: flying by in our chat, so hm, oh yes we did,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: and I missed it. Master Rogue gave us two dollars
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: USD and said I simp for no one, and then
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: in brackets, Prim smiles my queen. So I'll be honest.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Like I've hung out with Prem at different events and everything,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to not simp for her. She's
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: a sweetheart and she's adorable, and she's got that combination
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: of just being a genuinely nice person and also being attractive. Like,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a pass on that one.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: I've been to her house. We played board games. Yeah,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: myself and such, we played board games with her and
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: her husband. Yeah. I can't, as much as I want to,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: sort of to sort of say no, she's not older,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: she seems.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: No, she's she's lovely. Miss test If you hang out
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: with Prem and and somebody meets her and then later
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: tells you that they don't like her. Don't trust that person.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Her house is huge, by the way, good and it's
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: three fucking stories. It's amazing how she's doing so well.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: I'm glad, glad she worked so hard to get there.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't have she doesn't have to to to
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: rely on a Budger radio. She's she's living the life,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: and I wish her well.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad to see that she really studied hard,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: she worked really hard to get through school and and
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: her work is very helpful to the people that she
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: provides care for. So yeah, I I am. I'm really
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: glad to hear that. But but yeah, I don't think
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: there's anything wrong simping for Prim. Just just be aware
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: that she's not gonna sent back. So but with that,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's everything. Actually, while we're at it, since
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: we're talking about her, she does have a YouTube channel
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: just called the Prim Reaper. It is linked in our
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: low bar. So if you scroll down in our low
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: bar and find where we have put the link to
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Prim's YouTube channel, we have a bunch of links in there.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: People that have been associated with us or still are.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think mine's in there because I think I
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: think I took it out of the list since I'm
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: not adding anything to it. I haven't added anything to
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: it in a long time. But yeah, no, Prim does
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: therapy for men and she's she's very very perceptive, so
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: very very smart, so that that makes her very able
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: to help people. But yeah, definitely check out her YouTube
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: channel and she even sounds cute. But with that, we
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: will go ahead and call it the end of the show.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for listening. I know that takes a controversial topic,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: and I know that there are people in the movement
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: that really want to defend him, and there are people
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: in the movement that really want to hate on him.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: But for us, it's it's really about due process and
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: how to handle false allegations, you know, I mean, this
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: is this is one of those situations where if somebody
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: actually does what he's accused of doing, due process is
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: important because you need confirmation so that they can never
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: lie about being innocent effectively enough to con any more people.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: But if he's innocent, if he is innocent of what
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: he's accused of, do the process is important so that
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: the state where he's living does not waste a bunch
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: of money and time and energy wrongly jailing a man
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: for something he didn't do. And it's important that no
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: man gets thrown into that rabbit hole and no taxpayer
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: has to pay for that kind of abuse to be
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: done to somebody. So there you go it. It doesn't
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: matter whether we like him or not. It matters whether
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: he was treated fairly in the court system. Yes, So
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: with that, thank you all in good night, and see
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: you next. Well, we won't see you next Thursday because
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving. There will not be an HBr talk next Thursday.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: I might be yeah, might be doing something else on Friday,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: depending on whether or not the other badgers come up
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: with something. But if not, we will see you next Tuesday.