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FIND HIM: Missing Tot Dane Paulsen, 2, Vanished From Front Yard · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Find thankstores with me. It's a missing topboy.
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  Speaker 2: Dane Paulson, just two years old, vanishes from his own
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  Speaker 2: front yard. I means he grace. This is crime stories.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: A two year old Oregon boy vanishes from his own
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  Speaker 3: front yard. Authorities intensify the search for Dame Paulson, and
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  Speaker 3: this is what.
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  Speaker 2: We are learning from Sheriff Adam's Shanks.
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  Speaker 4: At the time of Dane's disappearance, he was playing in
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  Speaker 4: the front yard of the residence, out of sight of
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  Speaker 4: his parents. Three hundred and eighty two acres have been
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  Speaker 4: searched thus far, as well as two hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 4: three miles covered.
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  Speaker 2: That is Sheriff adam Is Shanks from Lincoln County Sheriff's
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  Speaker 2: Department speaking. The search is on a co continuing as
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  Speaker 2: we go to air. Right now for those of you
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  Speaker 2: just joining us, A two year old little top boy
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  Speaker 2: goes missing from his own front yard.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is what we know so far.
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  Speaker 5: Parents of Dame Paulson realize he has been out of
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  Speaker 5: their site for too long. They look around the yard
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  Speaker 5: and inside the home and every place he could be hiding,
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  Speaker 5: but not finding him quickly. A call is placed to
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  Speaker 5: the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office and deputies are sent to
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  Speaker 5: investigate a missing toddler call around four twenty five pm.
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  Speaker 5: Deputies immediately begin a search of the house, surrounding yard,
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  Speaker 5: as well as the banks of the Silitz River. A
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  Speaker 5: search for two year old Dane Paulson is hindered by darkness,
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  Speaker 5: and the Lincoln County Sheriff's Department quickly organizes a search
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  Speaker 5: for the following morning at SONA.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me in addition to an all star panel is
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  Speaker 2: a very special guest. Cecily Cook is joining us. When
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  Speaker 2: she heard the call, she immediately responded to try and
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  Speaker 2: find top boy Dane. Guys, for those of you just
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  Speaker 2: joining us, a two year old little boy is missing.
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  Speaker 1: The search is on.
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  Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about this
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  Speaker 2: little boy just two years old. Five four one two six'
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  Speaker 2: five o six six' nine repeat five four one two
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  Speaker 2: sixty five oh six. Six, nine cecil thank you for being. With,
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  Speaker 2: us cincily tell me exactly what happened when you Found
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  Speaker 2: out day was missing and what.
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  Speaker 6: You did i'm like an acquaintance to.
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  Speaker 7: THE family i Wouldn't say i'm a, close friend but
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  Speaker 7: we had a lot of mutual, close friends and so
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  Speaker 7: it came across my social media within thirty minutes of him.
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  Speaker 6: GOING missing i had, seen it and, you know it's a.
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  Speaker 7: Rural area people let their kids play in the yard all.
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  Speaker 7: The TIME so i thought, to myself, you know they'll.
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  Speaker 7: Find them he'll be somewhere tonight and by morning they'll have.
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  Speaker 6: FOUND them i woke up at.
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  Speaker 7: Five thirty the next MORNING because i just couldn't SLEEP
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  Speaker 7: and i wanted, to KNOW and i got on social
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  Speaker 7: media and Saw that celettes was asking for community volunteers to,
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  Speaker 7: come OUT and i jumped right out of bed. And,
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  Speaker 7: went thankfully my husband was off of work, that DAY
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  Speaker 7: so i was able to get out there Really early,
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  Speaker 7: sunday morning and we waited around for, some instructions and
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  Speaker 7: around nine o'clock they started organizing.
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  Speaker 6: Civilian searches and THAT'S when i.
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  Speaker 1: Joined them when you, join them tell me what. You
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  Speaker 1: observed we.
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  Speaker 7: Had been standing around for, a while kind of up
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  Speaker 7: on the bridge and across the way in the community,
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  Speaker 7: boat park and, you know just discussing and looking around
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  Speaker 7: at what we were allowed to look around at in,
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  Speaker 7: that area and just kind of throwing theories back, and
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  Speaker 7: forth and there was a lot of, speculations happening a
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  Speaker 7: lot of people trying to get.
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  Speaker 6: A straight story of what was.
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  Speaker 7: Going on and we were standing up at the bridge
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  Speaker 7: and they had just brought out the sand heunds down
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  Speaker 7: to the.
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  Speaker 6: River bank it roughly about. EIGHT thirty i, WOULD say i.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't have my phone.
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  Speaker 6: ON me i don't have service, out there so that's
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  Speaker 6: just kind of a guess at.
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  Speaker 7: The time and they were bringing the dogs down to
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  Speaker 7: the bank and the dogs were going off and then
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  Speaker 7: they went, back, up so, you know they were digging through.
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  Speaker 7: THE brush i kind, of thought, you know maybe they
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  Speaker 7: had found something and that, you, know unfortunately, you know
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  Speaker 7: but it turns, out that, you know they still wanted us,
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  Speaker 7: to search so they started putting together search parties and
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  Speaker 7: we all started on if.
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  Speaker 6: It would be the north side of.
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  Speaker 7: The bridge so if you're facing, the property the bridge
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  Speaker 7: is to the right side of, the house and we
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  Speaker 7: were on the other side of the Bridge Where elk's lodge.
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  Speaker 2: Campground Is dave MOYER With US georgia k Nine tracker,
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  Speaker 2: master trainer program Manager At military contracts and very IMPORTANT
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  Speaker 2: deputy k nine Instructor With San Bernandino Sheriffs, dave moyer.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that so much time was lost in the.
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  Speaker 2: Dark hours that's a problem because you saw the map
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  Speaker 2: very very. Densely forested when they realize the baby is
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  Speaker 2: gone from the, front yard it's quickly, getting dark so
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  Speaker 2: a real full on search could not ensue till, the
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  Speaker 2: morning although. They tried it's really hard to conduct a
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  Speaker 2: search for a tiny tot in.
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  Speaker 8: The.
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  Speaker 1: Night.
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  Speaker 9: Agreed agreed one of the benefits of that of being so,
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  Speaker 9: heavily forested is that the scent of if he had
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  Speaker 9: wandered off into, the woods is certainly going To be
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  Speaker 9: it's a far more productive environment for his scent to.
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  Speaker 9: Last longer so getting the trailing dogs out there trying
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  Speaker 9: to track to where he might have wandered even the
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  Speaker 9: next morning would probably would probably have been beneficial if
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  Speaker 9: in fact he had wandered off into. The woods it's air,
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  Speaker 9: productive ENVIRONMENT so i suspect that his his odor trail
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  Speaker 9: would have lasted a lot longer in.
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  Speaker 1: That, environment wait why do you, Say, that dave what these.
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  Speaker 9: Dogs, are following or that the theory behind the scent
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  Speaker 9: theory behind what they're following is as a person is
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  Speaker 9: moving around you have all, the oils some of the
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  Speaker 9: sweat raining, off you and also the dead skin cells
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  Speaker 9: also called. Skin rafts what the dogs are able to
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  Speaker 9: pick up on is that human to breed and is
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  Speaker 9: constantly being generated by your body as they're leaving a trail,
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  Speaker 9: and walking and they're actually able to differentiate a mild
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  Speaker 9: decomposition of just that those of those little tiny body
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  Speaker 9: particles that fall off, of you and that's how they're
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  Speaker 9: able to determine. The direction so a welcome very easily
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  Speaker 9: locate somebody in. That environment but again time is so
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  Speaker 9: the essence because, biological DICTATE and i mean not just for,
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  Speaker 9: the trail it happens, very rapidly even In a christine environment.
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  Speaker 2: Like that Mag To sicily cook volunteer searcher who wakes
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  Speaker 2: up at around five am in the morning it takes
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  Speaker 2: off to Help.
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  Speaker 1: Find dane did You see dane's mother? AND father.
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  Speaker 10: I did.
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  Speaker 7: They had been out searching and had walked past me on,
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  Speaker 7: the BRIDGE and i gave the mom some, weal wishes
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  Speaker 7: but they're just really not in the headspace to hear
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  Speaker 7: from anybody. Right now they're so concerned about where their.
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  Speaker 1: Son, is sicily please describe their.
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  Speaker 11: DEMEANOR upset i mean when the mom walked, past me,
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  Speaker 11: YOU know i had tried to kind of, you know
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  Speaker 11: some some, old wishes and it was like just staring into.
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  Speaker 6: A void she's just so, stressed out.
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  Speaker 7: So tired she's, not eating she's, not sleeping she's, you
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  Speaker 7: know it's so rough on a mom to be going,
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  Speaker 7: through that and she's just on autopilot. Right now she's
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  Speaker 7: doing everything she can to find. Her son what about.
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  Speaker 1: The dad the DAD is i.
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  Speaker 7: Think he's really playing a strong role for the family.
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  Speaker 6: Right now but you can just.
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  Speaker 10: It's all over.
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  Speaker 7: His face, you know they they're not handling this so
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  Speaker 7: well emotionally as any.
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  Speaker 6: Parent would.
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  Speaker 7: You know they love, their kids their local, business owners
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  Speaker 7: they're very, you know they're very prominent in, the community
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  Speaker 7: and they love their family and they love, their community
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  Speaker 7: and so this is something that's hit, them really.
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  Speaker 2: Really hard joining me right now is a long time
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  Speaker 2: colleague AND dare i say, Close Friend, anne bremner high
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  Speaker 2: profile lawyer out Of the. Seattle area she's at An
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  Speaker 2: less she's the Author of justice In the Age. Of
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  Speaker 2: judgment you can find Her At anne bremner. Dot com
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  Speaker 2: she's on every. Social platform and you Know why i'm asking.
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  Speaker 2: These QUESTIONS and i don't want to ask, these questions
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  Speaker 2: but from all my training as.
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  Speaker 1: A prosecutor, and investigator you have to ask the. Obvious.
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  Speaker 2: Question now, other sources in Addition To, cicily cook have already,
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  Speaker 2: told me but they were, not eyewitnesses that the parents
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  Speaker 2: are distraught and they are out on foot looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Their child And as i'm, Saying, That anne i'm getting
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  Speaker 2: Chills because i'm, You Know john David and lucy. MY
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  Speaker 2: children i can only imagine what these parents are going.
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  Speaker 2: Through outlooking but it heartens me to know they're out
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  Speaker 2: looking and they're not hiding behind the walls of. Their
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  Speaker 2: home Remember Like susan smith did after her horrible plea
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  Speaker 2: where she's snotted, and all that they're, not hiding they're out.
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  Speaker 2: There looking that means a lot, To, me.
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  Speaker 10: Well it means. A Lot, and nancy if there's one,
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  Speaker 10: child missing it's one child. Too many and you've been
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  Speaker 10: shining a light on missing children and people, for decades
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  Speaker 10: and so you're asking all the, right questions and of
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  Speaker 10: course they are looking for. THEIR child i Live, in
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  Speaker 10: seattle This. IS oregon i have a Place in bend actually.
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  Speaker 10: An organ we are like almost two thirds for us in.
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  Speaker 10: These states and this is a pretty. RURAL town i
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  Speaker 10: mean they're right on a river with all those trees and.
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  Speaker 10: Everything else so you've, got drones you've, got divers you've.
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  Speaker 10: Got dogs they're doing everything they can do to find this.
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  Speaker 2: Precious Child and bremner explain to me. Your understanding and
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  Speaker 2: YOU and i have seen. It before YOU and i
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  Speaker 2: have investigated, it before we've analyzed, it before we've brought
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  Speaker 2: down hell on everybody that was. Responsible before How did
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  Speaker 2: dane go missing from the?
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  Speaker 1: Front yard what was the out? There playing did he
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  Speaker 1: have siblings with somebody? Watching him? What HAPPENED and i.
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  Speaker 1: GET it i grew up in the middle Of.
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  Speaker 2: Rural georgia we could play all day until six pm
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  Speaker 2: till we heard the chimes And the. Methodist staple then
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  Speaker 2: we need to, go, Home right and that, Was fine
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  Speaker 2: and there are still Places in america where that. Is
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  Speaker 2: okay this is not an attack on, the parents as
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  Speaker 2: a matter, of fact it's the commendation that they are
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  Speaker 2: raising their children in a place where there's little to, no,
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  Speaker 2: fear right. Very rural everybody knows. Each other so what
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  Speaker 2: do we know about how he disappeared from the.
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  Speaker 10: Front, yard well that's exactly EXACTLY what i wanted, To,
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  Speaker 10: know NANCY and i kept Going on google and, you
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  Speaker 10: know circumstances of, his disappearance what was happening before four thirty?
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  Speaker 10: That Day and i'll tell YOU someday i couldn't.
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  Speaker 8: Find.
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  Speaker 10: Anything now it doesn't mean there are details that were
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  Speaker 10: given to the police at, the time but the fact
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  Speaker 10: is it's just playing in the yard and then they
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  Speaker 10: did lost track, of him and then he's not. There anymore,
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  Speaker 10: YOU know i grew up like. YOU did, i mean
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  Speaker 10: my mom whistled at. Dinner time we were out there
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  Speaker 10: In Our steing ray bikes in, the neighborhood and my
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  Speaker 10: parents didn't necessarily know where any of us were for a.
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  Speaker 10: Few hours but this. Is different the, POPULATION there i
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  Speaker 10: think is about, twelve hundred and of course there's forest
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  Speaker 10: around there in. A river but how long was he
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  Speaker 10: missing before they noticed what was? He doing there's an
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  Speaker 10: older siblings to, understand it and these parents are. Very
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  Speaker 10: distraught but it's, really important as, she said to know
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  Speaker 10: exactly what happened when he, went missing exactly what time,
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  Speaker 10: that was to try and figure out where.
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  Speaker 2: He, is now, you Know and i'm bringing up other
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  Speaker 2: cases where children have, just disappeared literally snatched out of the.
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  Speaker 2: Front yard and the first case that YOU and i
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  Speaker 2: investigated together was that A Little.
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  Speaker 1: Samantha, runyon listen.
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  Speaker 6: She was labating.
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  Speaker 1: Literally across. The path he's literally across. The path he purposefully.
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  Speaker 12: Exposed Her In, Orange, County California samantha runyon is playing
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  Speaker 12: a board game with a friend in the front yard
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  Speaker 12: of her apartment when a man approach is Asking if
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  Speaker 12: samantha can help him find. His dog as the, man
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  Speaker 12: talks he edges Closer to samantha until he's able to
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  Speaker 12: grab the five. Year old samantha is kicking. And screaming
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  Speaker 12: as the man is able to throw her in his
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  Speaker 12: car and. Drive Away aaron runyon begins pleading for the
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  Speaker 12: return of her DAUGHTER on. Tv news she holds Pictures
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  Speaker 12: of samantha and promises she doesn't want bingas just. Her
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  Speaker 12: daughter three, days later and fifty miles from, her home
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  Speaker 12: the Body Of samantha runion is recovered in a rugged
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  Speaker 12: Area Of. Riverside county this is the case used to
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  Speaker 12: push Through the amberler system we. Know today we first.
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  Speaker 2: Saw our, Now Colleague aaron runyon. Speaking out that was
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  Speaker 2: from our Friends At Orange county Register.
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  Speaker 1: AND bremner i recall all.
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  Speaker 2: Those nights in the studio that we worked On The samantha.
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  Speaker 2: Runion case and she was literally taken out of the.
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  Speaker 1: Front yard and remember the grandma was in.
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  Speaker 2: The kitchen, looking out looking right out in the kitchen
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  Speaker 2: window at, the baby and the guy, comes up grabs
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  Speaker 2: the baby.
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  Speaker 1: And leaves there are other children Playing.
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  Speaker 2: With, samantha uh everything, was fine and in, a moment it's,
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  Speaker 2: all over and the grandma runs out and it just hell.
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  Speaker 1: Breaks loose it happens just. Like that and do, You, Remember, samantha, YEAH.
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  Speaker 10: Oh i remember like it, was yesterday and as it was,
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  Speaker 10: so horrible and you're exactly right and making it happen just.
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  Speaker 10: A heartbeat it's Just like i'm At. Am walls, you
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  Speaker 10: Know It's, john walls, you know shopping and, a store
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  Speaker 10: and all of a sudden you turn around and they're.
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  Speaker 10: Not there and the little kids can get, pretty fast pretty,
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  Speaker 10: far away. Pretty quick but this is basically an induction
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  Speaker 10: in Front of god and everybody in playing sight and look.
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  Speaker 10: WHAT happened i remember it like it. Was yesterday what, a, tragedy.
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  Speaker 2: Guys just like you heard Our Guests ciceley cook describing
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  Speaker 2: waking up around five thirty am and rushing to Help.
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  Speaker 1: Find dane the.
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  Speaker 12: Search is on bond here show up at sun up.
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  Speaker 12: To help look forward to Your Old, dane paulson who
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  Speaker 12: has now been missing since around four thirty pm the,
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  Speaker 12: previous day and law enforcement again setting up a command
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  Speaker 12: post for search efforts at a boat launch across the
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  Speaker 12: river from the. Toddlers home in a heartbreaking Post, On facebook, Dan's,
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  Speaker 12: mother shaumette pleads with the public, for, help, saying quote
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  Speaker 12: our baby. Is missing his Name. Is dane he's two.
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  Speaker 12: Years old he looks like he's three. Or four he
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  Speaker 12: was wearing navy blue shoes with, two stars, white sox
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  Speaker 12: black sweats with a dark blue zip up hooded Fleece
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  Speaker 12: With teddy bear ears on the hood of his. Zip
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  Speaker 12: up hundreds.
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  Speaker 3: Volunteer to search for a two Year old. Oregon boy
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  Speaker 3: the toddler last scene playing alone in his front yard a.
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  Speaker 3: River nearby.
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  Speaker 2: How did this little boy disappear from his own? Front
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  Speaker 2: yard you? Know what that may be neither here, nor
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  Speaker 2: there because. It's done the search is what's happening, right
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  Speaker 2: now and there is a chance to.
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  Speaker 1: Bring this child.
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  Speaker 2: Home alive this little boy playing in the front yard
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  Speaker 2: when mom realizes.
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  Speaker 1: He's gone the search expanding at.
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  Speaker 12: This hour as the Search For dame, paulson expands officials
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  Speaker 12: ask that volunteers remain out of certain areas and to
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  Speaker 12: treat all areas as a possible. Crime Scene The Lincoln
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  Speaker 12: County sheriff's office is being assisted By The Oregon, State
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  Speaker 12: Police Lincoln City, Police DEPARTMENT, NEWPORT, Pd Fbi Celets, Valley
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  Speaker 12: Fire Lane County, Sheriff's Office Clacamus County, Sheriff's Office Polk County,
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  Speaker 12: Sheriff's Office Corvallis, Mountain Rescue MARY'S, peak Sar and REGION three.
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  Speaker 12: K nine multiple search and rescue Teams and sheriff's pose
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  Speaker 12: is along with the community volunteers are following search, area
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  Speaker 12: guidelines as marine teams and divers are searching, the river
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  Speaker 12: And The Lincoln County Major crime team AND the fbi
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  Speaker 12: are also assisting with. Investigative leads with me.
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  Speaker 2: Now from Crimeonline dot com Investigative Reporter.
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  Speaker 1: Dave MATT the fbi is Involved.
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  Speaker 12: Absolutely nancy this case garnered a lot of attention in
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  Speaker 12: legal communities and everybody. Joined in they picked up the
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  Speaker 12: phone and, called saying we. Need help we've got a
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  Speaker 12: huge area. To cover it's. Very difficult we need, every asset.
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  Speaker 12: Every resource AND the fbi popped right in and started
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  Speaker 12: Assisting The Lincoln county sheriff's Office, and remner a.
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  Speaker 1: High profile lawyer out of.
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  Speaker 2: This jurisdiction, and again YOU and i have dealt with
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  Speaker 2: so many searches for children THE fb i brought and
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  Speaker 2: what does that say?
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  Speaker 1: To you something?
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  Speaker 10: MULTI state, i mean YOU and i also Talked about
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  Speaker 10: lindsay baumb remember, In, McClary washington kind of about, a thousand,
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  Speaker 10: you know she was abducted and playing side off. The
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  Speaker 10: FREEWAY so I mean i looked at something, like this
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  Speaker 10: and although those cases of abduction are, pretty rare they're
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  Speaker 10: out There like samantha and like And like lindsay and maybe.
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  Speaker 10: This CHILD so i think that that might be one reason.
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  Speaker 10: They're involved. Everybody's involved like we just heard in the
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  Speaker 10: list that is so many Asiancies in oregon and Outside.
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  Speaker 10: Of oregon it. IS unbelievable, i mean the attention to
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  Speaker 10: this is amazing, and GREAT but i would think it
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  Speaker 10: has something to do with some kind, of travel maybe Outside.
• 16:49
  Speaker 10: Of oregon i'm not sure what else it. Could be
• 16:51
  Speaker 10: i'd have to think about.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: That, one yeah, multi story.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: They're there they are looking at a multi state investigation,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: right Now and i'm trying to figure. Out why, of Course,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: and bremner it could be as simple AS the fbi
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: has been called upon to use. Their, resources sure we
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: don't know WHY the fbi, is involved but this is
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: what we're Learning From Sergeant, Jason Spano Franklin.
• 17:11
  Speaker 9: County sheriffs we are, using, drones, divers, watercraft canines and
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: even a sign cutter to thoroughly cover. THE area a
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: sign cutter is a highly trained individual on tracking techniques
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: that involve finding and following signs left behind by people.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Or, animals okay that's for our Friends THAT. Kate G
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: W hearing spano speaking. Day lawyer are you familiar with a.
• 17:35
  Speaker 9: Sign, cutter yes it's something that is, commonly incorporated and
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: ACTUALLY the us military used to use this back In
• 17:42
  Speaker 9: the vietnam era for some of the long range teams
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: where they go out and do the long range tracking teams.
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: UTILIZING canine a sign cutter is usually a visual tracker
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: is another name, for it and there's just varying levels,
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: of expertise and you're looking for anything, left, behind footprints,
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: overturned pebbles, broken twigs matted down for ass any number
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: of things that if you grew Up on WESTERNS like,
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: i did you used to See the indian practors talking
• 18:09
  Speaker 9: about on the movies all.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: The time they a sign cutter looks for any trace they.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: LOOK at I Know cecily cook has. Been outlooking she's
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: a volunteer searcher Searching for dane all sorts of hours of.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: The, morning noon.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: AND night a sign cutter looks, for things try to
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: send them in ahead, of volunteers even AHEAD of la.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Law enforcement they look for things like a. Broken twig
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: they look for things.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Like, a thread a sock and an.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Odd location, for instance in the case we've just brought,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: To you Abby.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: And libby the two little girls murdered off the trestle Bridge.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: In delphi portions of, their clothes like, a sock were
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: found downstream from where their body bodies.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Were found so when a sign cutter sees.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: A that may mean nothing to, some people it will
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: mean everything to a. Sign cutter they look for subtle
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: irregularities that the rest of us may. Not See, cecily cook.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Volunteer searcher when you were let loose with all of the,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: other volunteers were you given? Any instructions did you see the?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Sign? Cutter no we.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: Were told to try to stay in a.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: Grid pattern unfortunately a lot of people out there didn't
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: really know what they, were doing and it is unfortunate
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: because a lot of places just, got TRAMPLED and i
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: don't know that that first couple hours was. Very effective
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: so they did gather everybody, back Together And, dan clinton
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: who is actually another local, business owner is the one
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: who organized all of the individual little search parties and
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: sent them out in. CERTAIN directions i had actually kind
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: of broke off on my own and went and looked
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: on my OWN until i have my own group.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: Of friends show up and then we all. Look TOGETHER but.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: I wanted to be able to kind of go off
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: on my own because a lot of people were being.
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: Very loud they're talking about soccer practice last week and things,
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: like that and you couldn't hear anything if, you tried
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: AND so i kind of went in an opposite direction
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: of where everybody. Else went and those were the THINGS
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: that i was, looking, for, threads clothes handprints in, the
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: mud slidemarks where, somebody slipped, broken brush pushed, down brush,
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: You Know and i'm going and all the little tiny
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: holes a two year old could.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: GO in i actually have, a BEAGLE and i let
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: him lead.
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: The way anywhere.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: HE went, i, WENT sorry i have a little.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: With me place, your baby especially at a moment, Like this, Hey,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Baby yeah i'm thinking.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: About old and a one. Year old i'm glad they're
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: both home.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: With me crime Stores With Nancy.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Grace cicily what is the closest highway or roadway To
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: where dang's.
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: Home is It's A, Kernville Highway so i'm not actually
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: sure what the highway number is.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: On that twenty nine? Or two is that what? This,
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: is yeah two. Twenty nine so we around here we
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: call It The Kermville.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: Selects highway it takes Us From Lincoln city kernville area
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: all the Way through selects and Out. To toledo it
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: connects all the way through and it runs in front of.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Their house so it does connect From The selet's bridge
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: where Like The salashan. Resort is it's kind of right in.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: That area and then it goes all the way over to,
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: you know straight. Through.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Street, selects okay well you're saying all the Way to
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: toledo are you Referring To?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Toledo street?
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Of, course yeah that's highway where two twenty.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Nine, connects, yeah gotcha it's. To sell It's highway highway two.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Twenty Nine, and brendman you Know where i'm going, With
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: This and i'm sure.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: You recall as we, all do in the Case of
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Shasta And.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Dylan gronie and of course at the beginning everyone thought
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: somehow family.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Was involved.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: They weren't they were massacred. AS well perv was driving down.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: The interstate It, Was, cordlane.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Idaho and if you look at, it above.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: It looks very similar to what YOU and i are
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: looking at. Right now it reminds me very much OF
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: when i was camp counselor at a national forest and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: when we would have campers come through with practically hold
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: onto them so they wouldn't get lost in. That forest
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: this guy driving along the interstate happens To see Shasta
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: and dylan brother sister in an above ground pool and he,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: pulls over lays, in weight kills a family and takes.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: The children shasta.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Alone survived So what i'm saying is this connects To.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Is Sell it's highway two.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Twenty nine how fast did somebody get to an interstate
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and be Gone?
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: With?
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: Dane, well absolutely and that case was, So tragic and
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: again it was In The, pacific Northwest. Like oregon it
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: Was in idaho and At, cart lane a beautiful resort
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: where this is or The missing Tuddler Is. Sela shan
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: the resort is. Stunningly gorgeous and you're talking about the
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: basically the coast Sign of oregon and this highway right at.
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: Their house it could be just Like The shasta. Grony
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: case it could be Just like Melissa And lindsay baum.
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: And McCleary that was like basically an exit and going
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: back on the freeway one oh one Here in. Washington
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: state and she was found many many years later In.
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: Eastern washington of course she'd. Been murdered so right at,
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: the river, you know right at the. Highway, there absolutely
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: it's like some, other cases some of the tragic cases
• 24:05
  Speaker 10: we've seen here In the Northwest.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: And oregon toddler playing alone in his front.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: YARD vanishes a mystery car, Seen nearby please question. The
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: owner where is two Year Old?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Dane paulson.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: What, if anything does a gold station wagon have to
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: do with the search for this?
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Little Boy dang investigators canvas the area searching for any
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: clue or tip that may lead Them To dane paulson
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: and come up with a. POSSIBLE suspect a suspicious vehicle
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: and an adult male were noticed near a bridge close
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: to the family residence and the family is not familiar
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: with the man or his gold station wagon that was
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: parked nearby around thirty minutes Prior To dane. Paulson's disappearance
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: as law enforcement gets the word out about the gold
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: station wagon and the unknown, mail inside a tip comes
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: in with more info about the man and.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: His car straight out To Doctor angela arnold joining me
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: psychiatrist In the. Atlanta jurisdiction can be Found At ANGELA
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: arnold md. Dot Com. Doctor angie that right there strikes
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: fear in every. Parent's heart why if your child is
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: missing in, the woods you got a good chance of
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: finding the child right with a tracker dog or just
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: by calling the child unless it's. Been hurt but if
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: somebody takes a child in a vehicle that's a whole,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: another scenario and pervs have. It down they know what,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to do as in the Case that ANN and i
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: were just Talking About lindsay Baum Or samantha Runyon Or Face.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Sweat lick they know what, they're doing and they often.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Watch the child for a period of time before they
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: absconde with the child in.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: The vehicle then you're looking at.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Sixty mph it's nearly impossible to get your, child back, You.
• 25:50
  Speaker 13: KNOW nancy a couple of QUESTIONS that, i Have and
• 25:52
  Speaker 13: i'm sure some of the viewers are wondering.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: About, this also.
• 25:56
  Speaker 13: Is this typical for the child to play out in
• 25:58
  Speaker 13: the yard around? THIS time a BIG question i have
• 26:03
  Speaker 13: is how far could a child could a little bit.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Eat to your old.
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: TODDLER go, i mean they're talking about all of these
• 26:10
  Speaker 13: miles and miles that. They've searched how could a little
• 26:13
  Speaker 13: guy have gone that many miles in a short period.
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: Of time you would think he would lay down and
• 26:19
  Speaker 13: maybe fall asleep at night or something.
• 26:20
  Speaker 12: Like that so, to me.
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: Those, those things unfortunately lend to the thought that he.
• 26:29
  Speaker 13: Was taken and oh, My, GOD nancy, I mean i
• 26:32
  Speaker 13: am so sorry for these parents because if he. Was
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: taken it's like finding a needle in, a haystack isn't?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: It well the tip regarding the gold station wagon hits.
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: A wall following up on a tip that comes in from,
• 26:45
  Speaker 12: the community the gold station wagon and the man inside
• 26:47
  Speaker 12: are located by local, law enforcement thinking this could be
• 26:50
  Speaker 12: a break in. The case officers follow up everything and
• 26:53
  Speaker 12: determine that the man and his car are not involved
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: in the Disappearance Of dane paulson and thank the community
• 26:59
  Speaker 12: for sharing in for me. So quickly they also use
• 27:01
  Speaker 12: this as an example of how tips related to the
• 27:04
  Speaker 12: investigation will, be treated and asked for the public to
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: continue providing information that could lead them to.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: The toddler the search still active and gaining traction and
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: joining Me. Sicily cook, what instructions, if any were. You
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: given you said that it started off as a, grid
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: search but then it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: All changed what? Exactly happened you've told me the demeanor
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: of the mom, and dad and that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Corroborates what i've, already learned that they are destroyed and
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: they are out searching for. Their child what were you
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: told any instructions?
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: At all we were told.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: That if we, found him not to, touch him to
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: cover him up with our hoodie or jacket and to going.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: At help.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: We were given some light instructions that's a grid searching
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: space out at an, equal space stay where you can
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: see each other within three or four feet of, each
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: other and continue on. That way we were told that
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: if we find any of the clothes that he was
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: described to be seen wearing when he, went missing not to,
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: touch it to go and, report it leave it where,
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: it's at take a picture of it on your phone if.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: You can even after the signing of a Goal station
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: wagon as it relates to the Disappearance of dane that
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: ended up as a, dead end.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Questions arise as to lack of an.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Amber alert as the first forty eight hours have passed
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: with no Sign Of. Dane paulson memories of the community
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: want to know why an amber alert has not been
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: pushed out regarding the. Missing Toddler The Lincoln County sheriff's
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: Department explains dane's disappearance does not meet the criteria to
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: use the amber.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Alert, System okay.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Dave matg what does that mean no amber alert went
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Out On dane pauls and why.
• 28:54
  Speaker 12: The real reason they? Mentioned criteria but the biggest one
• 28:58
  Speaker 12: is there's not enough descriptive in information about the victim
• 29:01
  Speaker 12: and the abduction for law enforcement actually ISSUE an amber
• 29:05
  Speaker 12: alert to assist in the recovery of, the child and in,
• 29:07
  Speaker 12: this case there was. No vehicle the gold station wagon,
• 29:12
  Speaker 12: checked out but there was no description, of, car person,
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: or anything so there was nothing to. Go ON an
• 29:18
  Speaker 12: amber alert would have actually not been able to do
• 29:22
  Speaker 12: any more than say we have a, missing child and
• 29:25
  Speaker 12: that's not enough.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: To issue three hundred eighty two acres have been searched
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: and two hundred eighty three miles have, been covered but
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: the numbers for areas searched continues to grow as the search.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Is ongoing in the first twenty four Hours Of dane,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: paulson's Disappearance The Lincoln County, sheriff's office in coordination with, other,
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: local state and, federal entities have deployed eighty eight certified
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: search and rescue members, for watercraft, four divers, four drones
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: six human, trailing canines, forty investigators one hundred and thirty eight,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: community volunteers AND the fbi is providing family resources Through
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: Their Victims.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Services Division crime Stories With nancy grace.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: In, rural oregon a two year old vanishes playing in his.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Own yard please ask for help from.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: The public, right now the search goes on for this,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Taut Boy dane paultz and last scene in his own
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: front yard and now words to.
• 30:28
  Speaker 14: The searchers as the Search for, dame continues law enforcement
• 30:31
  Speaker 14: is clear they would like to hear from the community,
• 30:33
  Speaker 14: with tips but are encouraging volunteers to limit their searching to.
• 30:36
  Speaker 14: Daylight hours the professionals are out, at night but it
• 30:39
  Speaker 14: isn't safe. For volunteers those interested in volunteering are asked
• 30:42
  Speaker 14: to check in at the staging area At The Elks
• 30:45
  Speaker 14: Dakoti ilahi Campground On selects Highway, In. Selects oregon dave
• 30:50
  Speaker 14: moy you're.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Joining, Me Tracker MASTER trainer k Nine tracker and it
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: goes on.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: And on why do they say it's unsafe forolunteers to search?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: AT night, i mean this child is just two and he's.
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: Out there that might be a liability driven for the
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: policy of the department and the search and rescue teams
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: that are. OUT there a lot of volunteers that aren't
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: trained to stomp around in the woods at night can,
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: easily fall get themselves hurt and then create another situation
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: where they would have the employee of the resources to
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: extract those people and give them. Medical care so obviously
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: the point is not to injure and kill anybody else
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: while looking for this.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Young boy as a search is expanding at, this hour
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: we UNDERSTAND that la law enforcement has used every tool at.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Their disposal as the Search For dane.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Paulson continues the technology being used to find the toddler
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: is as good as, it gets with the use of
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: heat seeking drones high overhead monitoring the river running one
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: hundred feet From where dane was.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Last seen joining me right now Is Being Dobrin Emergency,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Medical Services Marine dive Team, expert dane And The Henry
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Watt School professional Studies And Professors. Social work ben thank
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: you for being. With us how would a water? Search
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: go are they selects river it opens directly to the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: ocean at.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Some point the.
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: Water search would be very INTERESTING because i don't know
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: that body of water if. It's, moving obviously the first
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: place they'll search is, the closest the last known point
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: or the point where they would think that child would,
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: go in so they would. Search close AND then i
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: mean it's, a river so the water is going, TO
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: flow i just don't know what the flow. Rate is
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: you're gonna want to go downstream obviously, do that but,
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: you know if the water is not moving, too much
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: you'll search, that area whether it's going to be with.
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: Sonar first oftentimes you'll put boats in the water with
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: sonar to see if you find some sort, of anomaly
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: some sort, of target and then you'll put divers in.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: THE water a river like that is so, you know
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: even even if it's one hundred, yards across it's still
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: miles long side. To side so at, a waterway you
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: can put divers in right where you think the child
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: went in to clear. That area but then you know
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: you've got miles and miles downstream and you can just
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: start putting, divers in but you're going to burn out
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: your resources, relatively quickly and so unless there's some sort
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: of reason why you think the target is in, an
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: area you're going to keep looking. With sonar or on,
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: the shore you can have a lot of shore. Based
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: resources the walkers who are looking on. The shore we
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: had a we had a child drowned recently in, my
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: city and that's we had walkers on. The shoreline, you
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: know in the reeds and in the trees and in
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: the grasses right on, the shoreline to see if something
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: will get. Washed up it could, be clothing it can be.
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: A shoe, you know those are, All clues those are
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: all pieces. Of evidence so You're not you're just you're
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: looking for anything that will give you a clue where,
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: where this where this Child is and so divers are a,
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: great tool but you know you can only cover a
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: very small area at a time with.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: A diver Missing Toddler dame paulson last scene wearing a
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: gray fuzzy hoodie, with ears blue and white shoes and
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: black pants with his family desperately begging.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: For Help.
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: Dane paulsen is big for. His age he's, only two
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: but it looks to be three or four years old
• 34:14
  Speaker 12: as he plays in the front yard of the. Family
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: home dane is a friendly and outgoing child living in.
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: The country dane plays outside in the yard around, the
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: house even out of sight for a. Few minutes his
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: parents aren't too Worried as dane is probably exploring around.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: The yard many people have been attacking the. PARENTS online
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: i think that's totally uncalled for in. This area it's
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: routine practice for children to. Play outdoors, it's rural very
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: very practically non existent, crime rate and it's certainly not
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the first time a child has gone missing from the.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Front yard these parents distraught out searching for their child
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: again not the first time this. Has happened does The
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Name athenis strand ring? A BELL because i will never.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Forget it The.
• 34:57
  Speaker 15: Joy athena gave, her family and the joy sh you
• 35:00
  Speaker 15: Felt on christmas is something we will never fill with.
• 35:02
  Speaker 12: Her again.
• 35:04
  Speaker 15: That delivery driver admitting to kidnapping and killing, my innocent
• 35:08
  Speaker 15: free spirited seven year old Daughter, On friday. December second
• 35:11
  Speaker 15: at the Time of, athena's abduction she was staying with
• 35:15
  Speaker 15: her stepmother and Father, In, paradise texas doing what, kids
• 35:18
  Speaker 15: do playing within the bounds of her father's property on
• 35:22
  Speaker 15: the same land he grew up and.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Played on that from our FRIENDS At, cbs texas, of
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: course we're talking About Little, athena strand just seven.
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: Years old seven Year Old athena strand is at her
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: father's House, In, paradise texas three Weeks, before christmas. Playing
• 35:36
  Speaker 12: outside when she's called to, Come inside athena. DOESN'T respond
• 35:39
  Speaker 12: a quick search of the area turns up no sign
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: of the child and police. Are called for, three days
• 35:44
  Speaker 12: the search becomes a. National story Investigator's interview FedEx Driver,
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: tanner horner who delivered a package at, the home and
• 35:50
  Speaker 12: he admits to Backing into athena that day and claims out,
• 35:53
  Speaker 12: of fear he threw her Into his FedEx truck and.
• 35:55
  Speaker 12: Took off He strangles athena and leads police to the
• 35:59
  Speaker 12: creek where he left.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Her body at, This hour dave mac the search is
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: going on for two Year. Old dane what does? The
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: search what's it comprised of?
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: Right now the search is comprised, of, land, sea air
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: using every, Resource. Available nancy they are targeting the area
• 36:19
  Speaker 12: around the house, and beyond looking using heat seeking from
• 36:24
  Speaker 12: above where they could see like if we've got the
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: little boy in, the woods they would be able to
• 36:30
  Speaker 12: spot a. Heat signature they're putting boats on, the water
• 36:34
  Speaker 12: divers in the water, as well and of course there's
• 36:37
  Speaker 12: crews that are grid searching areas around, the woods but it's.
• 36:40
  Speaker 12: Very thick that's why they've talked about how difficult it
• 36:43
  Speaker 12: would be for a two year old to be able
• 36:45
  Speaker 12: to go through the woods when adults are having trouble
• 36:47
  Speaker 12: moving things out of, the way.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: The search All The saltz river, going On and bremner,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: with me high profile lawyer out of, this jurisdiction who
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: was dealt with so many. Similar cases what is your
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: advice to searchers and to the.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Parents tonight keep.
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: THE faith, i mean they've, got dogs drones. And divers
• 37:09
  Speaker 10: just keep, it going one foot in front of. The
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: other that's all they can do and hope for. The
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: best and we really hope to find. This child but
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: they're doing everything they.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Can Do, cicily cook are you going to? Search, Again
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: yeah i'm actually going back.
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: Out Today so i'm an avid Kayaker and i'm an
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: avid camper of. THAT area i Kayak The slits river
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: three four times, a week maybe more during.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: The summer and during the. Warmer season so me.
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: And my best friend today are going to go put
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: in an, equit park which is more down towards the
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: bottom of.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: The, river currently, right.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: Now a professional search and rescue is focusing on the
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: point of.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: The home and then two.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Miles downstream they're saying that the water temperature is about forty,
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: four degrees it's moving about five to ten miles, per
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: hour and you can see about five to ten feet
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: in front of you under.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: The water and.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: To You, dave moyer children have been found after. Several
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: days it's not, over yet, That's.
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: Correct and it really kind of depends on what the
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: canines they're able. To employ there's a couple of different
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: a couple of different disciplines out there in this case
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: that the trail is going to be pretty much gone
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: with the time that, has elapsed but you can do
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: it's called area search dogs and live search dogs and
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: search large areas. Very quickly and there's a piece to
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: THIS that i wanted to. Bring up nobody's really. Mentioned
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: it i'm not that familiar with the area for what
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: kind of wildlife might be. Out there he's small enough
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: that it is, possible that, you know perhaps a wild
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: animal managed to pick. THEM up i worked a case
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: where a two year old was picked up by a
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: coyote and drug into the wood once several years Ago. In,
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: CALIFORNIA so, i mean these are. ALL options I don't
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: i just don't have any information for what these guys
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: are seeing on. The ground if there's any evidence whatsoever
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: to point them in.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: That, Direction Well, dave moyer none of us, want that
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: but it's, a possibility and in our line, of business
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: we have to look at. Every possibility being That Was,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: dave moore you're, joining us And Now, BEN dobrin i
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Mean There's sean hornback And being omby that were found
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: years after. THEIR kidnaps i don't want that here for
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: that time to. Go by my point is there.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Is hope it's not, Over, Yet, ben.
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: Oh absolutely it's not. OVER yet, i mean. You're right
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: they have found kids who've been out in the woods,
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: for days, you know and they're just kind of them
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: down into a hole or in a gully or somewhere
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: and there's waiting for somebody to. Find them one of
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: the things as a public safety is this kid going
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: missing is. Very important we just heard from the volunteer
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: search and rescue person In. The kayaker everybody in the community.
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: Wants this everybody wants. To help you better believe that
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: police and fire and in that's are out there and
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: they are not going. To stop they want to find.
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: This child they want to find in, the happy healthy
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: and well, you know but they're going to keep looking
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: until they find no matter what. That means they're not
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: going to be giving up. At all this is the
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: focus of public safety in that county and the multiple
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: counties around it and around the country. Right, now people this.
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: Is important when there's a, missing child we have an instinctual,
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: you know we want. To help we want to find.
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: That child in the, fire police the search and rescue folks,
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: out there they're not going. To rest the, problem is,
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: you know after this goes on for two or three or,
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: four days you've got to make, them rest and you've
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: got to tell people take care. Of yourself you got to.
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: Start staggering people, go home. Eat something but the community
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: is pulling together and the community is not going to.
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: Stop there They're going they're going to. Keep going, you
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: know they're putting people out in the woods and those are.
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: Gense woods, it's tiring if, it's exhausting but people want
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: to help and they're not going. To stop they're not
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: going to stop until they until there's a reason.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: To stop if you know or think you know anything
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: about the disappearance of this, Top Boy, dane paulson please
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: nile five four one two six five o six. Six
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: nine now we Remember an american hero Police Officer Nathan HEIDELBERG,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Middlan pd texas, twenty eight shot and killed in the line.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Of duty survived By Parents Nathan, england, Dean Sisters Amy
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Molly heidi american hero Police Officer. Nathan Heidelberg nancy grace
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: signing off goodbye friend