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EPISODE 379 - Is That an Osmo 3 in Your Pocket? · TechtalkRadio

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The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Welcome to another
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episode of Techtbok Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanward, I'm Matt Jones,
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and I'm justin leme. All right. We are the show that talks
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about computers, technology, and the Internet. But wait a second. Yeah,
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there's a new there's a new voice in here. Matt Jones. That's
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a great name. That's like a secret agent name. Are you double eight?
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So I was. I was in this class my freshman year of college
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in like two thousand and six, before like geolocation everything like came into social
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media. And I had a professor who goes, who doesn't think they have
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to hide their online activity? And I'm the only person who raised my hand,
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and he goes, why not? And I was like, I'm a
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nondescript five foot ten white guy and my name is Matt Jones in America.
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Okay, anyone besides John Smith and the over there him for anonymity and we
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all know what he's gonna do when he grows up. So yeah, anyone
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else who doesn't want to destroy the point that I was just trying to make.
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All right, Man, I got we gotta ask it, like,
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so, what got you into technology? Probably when I was When I was
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a kid, we we had computer lab and everything, and I loved it.
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But when we got our first computer in the house, I definitely had
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a lot of fun playing with it. But what it really was was when
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it died and my my dad was in the navy, and you got a
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buddy who was big into technology, and he brought a new computer into the
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house and got everything set up. I was like, what are we doing
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with the old one? They were like, we have no plans with it,
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and I just pulled out like a screwdriver, a power drill, and
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I broke that thing down into its very basics. Since then I was just
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like, Nope, this is it for me. That's the best way for
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the kids to learn is to actually do it. That's why I like those
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kids. Have you guys ever seen those kids that they make for kids where
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they can build their own computer. It's raspberry you know, but Raspberry pies.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, Well that's a great idea. There's there's another
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not not necessarily a computer per se, but like, uh, you guys
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a'll probably know. Mark rober on YouTube, famous engineer used to work for
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NASA, built the Mars rover, and now he does a YouTube channel.
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Are you serious, Andy, You don't know who Mark Robber is? No?
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I don't. Oh wow, Mark Rober is amazing. He's an amazing
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youtubeer. He does some amazing engineering videos on YouTube. I love his channel.
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He's the guy that did the glitter bomb when what the people that are
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stealing packages? See everybody knows the glitter bomb. Now I know him,
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yes, yeah, yeah, he's the guy that engineered four of that.
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Now oh well he he I think he did V four and then he just
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stopped. He was like, look, we're done with the glitter Bomb.
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We're gonna move on to other things. But anyway, he has another company
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called crunch Labs and they provide a monthly subscription box where you can build some
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of a toy and it can be a lot of Every month is different.
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But also it includes an exclusive YouTube video that is not public that you can
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watch and you're and it basically it's Mark Robert walking your kid through how to
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build this crunch Labs box and what it can be used for, and so
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it teaches your kids engineering. It's it's it's strictly stem So if you're if
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your kids are into STEM, uh science, technology, engineering, math,
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If you don't know, it's a great little thing. And I'm I'm kind
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of thinking of getting that for Eric for Christmas. That's a good idea.
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I was gonna ask you guys, because you have kids, Sean Justin.
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I'm not sure about Matt, but oh he's got dogs. Dogs you can
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teach them. I mean, can you teach dog STEM? I wonder?
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But but I mean, you guys have kids, would you like entertain the
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idea of getting them into STEM as soon as you could? Absolutely? Yeah?
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I mean serious world of technology. That's the world we live in,
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right. It's we would put our kids at such a disadvantage if we don't
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encourage them to adopt technology. Right. But that isn't saying don't learn other
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things. But technology is going to be the forefront of well are but the
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next ten years of our life in the future? Right? Yeah. But
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see, that's the thing is that you're when you say technology, Sean,
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you're only talking about one fourth of what STEM stands for, you know.
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So STEM is teaching you, Science is teaching you, technology is teaching you
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engineering, and it is teaching new mathematics. All four of those topics are
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extremely important in today's society. We don't necessarily need French or home economics,
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which I don't even think they teach that anymore, to be honest, But
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like, I don't they need STEM. I disagree. I'm I'm with you
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on that one, Andy, I I do disagree. I think that home
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ech, wood shop, metal shop, things like that. I you know,
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I did that when I was in middle school. And I also think
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it's thing that we need to continue. And it's it's kind of two fold.
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So when you're like, we don't need French, the place that I
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went to school, I want to say about five years ago, they actually
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adopted a change to the language requirement could now include coding languages instead of just
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yes, oh yeah. I thought that was awesome. But I know this
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is tech talk radio. But I think we also do a mild disservice to
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the future generations by saying you need to do STEM, you need to be
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in technology, you need to go to college. We are also in the
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US facing a massive decline in our skilled trade workforce because we keep telling them
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you have to go to college to be successful. You need to go get
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a four year degree and get the debt equivalent of a small crew with you
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to be successful. And I think we need to put those things back in
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school for home economics, wood shop, metal shop, autoshop, because there
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are people who are not going to be technology oriented, but they might have
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an innate talent to do welding or carpenterers. And I think that's something that
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Germany actually does very well. Is part of your education. You actually have
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to go do a small apprenticeship in a trade. You have to work inside
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that workforce, and I think that's something we're definitely missing. So absolutely,
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I don't completely agree with the remove it, but I do think we need
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to increase the focus as well as the traditional trade style jobs, but also
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do things like the school district did where hey, you prove proficient proficiency in
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Python Java. Those those complete your language requirements because you are still technically learning
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a new language. Right, we can we just agree on one thing?
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What would that be? Can we can we just please get rid of common
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core math? Oh? God, yes, it's like that thing from The
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Incredible Math is math. Here's here's one of the one of the things I
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don't like about this. You see the ads on television for services like chime,
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and you see these others where they're trying they're trying to get the youth
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to understand, Hey, you can get in advance on your paycheck, live
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without your meat, live beyond your means, but don't worry. We're gonna
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front you two hundred bucks and then we'll take it. It will take a
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small fee out of that. And that's the worst kind of economics to think
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about it, Like we need well with homech I remember you learned how to
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balance a checkbook, make a budget? Do I never got that in home
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X see I did, and I thought that in civics, yeah, yeah,
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or to understand, you know, finances and how they work. The
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problem is, no, I don't think the kids learn that unless the parents
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sit down and teach them. But you've got these ads now social media directing
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them to go ahead and you know, hey, live live beyond your got
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a credit card when you're eighteen exactly, And that scares me. It's because
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all of this education at this point is not driven to teach. You are
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driven to perform on test scores, and ever since we adopted that where the
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metric of how well you're doing is how well you do on a test.
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Shockingly, not everybody's a good test taker. And with that we one or
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two people in here who are like that because you know, I know,
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justin. But we need to go back to actually educating, teaching financial literacy,
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teaching basic life skills. You know, people don't know how to yeah,
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people don't know how to balance a checkbook anymore because no one really carries
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a check book, true, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
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to create a bounce a budget, yeah, how to find your means,
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how to live inside of those means. We need basic life skills. Here's
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how you do taxes, because God, that's all God, figure out what
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you're an adult for the first time. You don't think that's gonna go away.
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There are certain things that are guaranteed life, death and taxes. Yes,
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we need to go back to truly educating. As you know, here's
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here's basic life skills that we just don't teach them. I mean, I
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remember going to college and walking into the launder room and there was this girl
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just staring utterly confused at the washer and dryer and she was like, I've
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tried to draw my clothes like four times and it won't dry. And I
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pull out the link trap and outcomes like a link claude, like the size
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of Encyclopedia Britannica. I'm like, it's not drying because there's no air going
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to the dryer. And when the building burns down, this is gonna be
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the cause. That's the cause. Yes, there's so many life skills that
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we just don't teach anymore, and you got to figure it out through YouTube.
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I mean there's a YouTube channel that is this guy who is just being
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a dad and he's like yeah. It was like, it's like I know
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that channel. He's like, hey, it's dad. He you're in today,
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I'm gonna teach you how to I'm like, we should. We are
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failing utterly as a society for not teaching those basic life skills to these kids.
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If you need a YouTube channel on on what from your from your virtual
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dad, that's how bad we are right now. Yeah, yeah, well
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awry When it comes to technology, though, what do you guys think about
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this? And I've thought about this. I've got and this is my argument
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for having so many old computers in the garage, right because I've been asked
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about them and I said, I'm saving them for August. August is my
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grandson, because one day I'm gonna show him how to build a system.
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Well, those aren't gonna be there's there's nothing to it. But and I
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said, but then to learn the basics, to learn from the start hard
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drive, motherboard, CPU, memory, video card case, and how to
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like install it even and Shi, it's not even gonna be in use anymore.
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You know, I was gonna say, none of that's going to be
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around us. Ye, he's three, he's there or two right now,
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so you know, in ten years when he's ready to start learning, probably
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it's gonna be just a glowing cube. Like it's just it's like it's gonna
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be all AI infused. I mean, that's my excuse right now too for
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all the computers I have, is that I gotta teach Max how to build
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computers at some point. Yeah, Matt, what is I don't have a
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kid, so I don't have an excuse when my wife's like, why do
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we still have all these computers? I'm like, uhh reasons. Yeah,
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It's like it's like that big box of tangled cables. It's because one day
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I might need it. And as soon as you get rid of that box
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of cables. You're gonna find a cable that you need. I found a
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cable the other day. I have no clue what it goes to. It's
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a USB USB cable, but on the end of it you've got the you
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know, USB and then the other end is a phono plug, Like you
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mean like the plug three five millimeters. Yeah, but I have no idea
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what it would what I've used, what I would have used it for.
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If memory serves and we're going back to to uh the dark times, which
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is what I referred to when I worked for Best Buy. Yeah, those
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cables were usually used like the the USBO going your computer, the PHONEO,
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We're going to like uh uh walk something like that, and it would be
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used to help record the analog into digital. Ah, there you go.
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But there would would there have to be like some sort of a DAC in
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line, a digital analog converter or vice versa. Potentially we're going back like
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ten years at this point, so I I don't know, Man, some
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quick google fo right, what at this is it's used for? In car
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audio? In car audio, Oh yeah, it would go into the back
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of the audio deck and then come out into like your glove box and you
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plug your iPod or something into that and then it comes through your speak mail
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oox audio jack to the USB two point zero that would So they basically took
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the USB cables that are in the USB line that would be used for data
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and they just use those for analog. Ah, look at that. How
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much can I sell it? For sean seven dollars? Nice seven? A
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nice find you can get that's actually of a Starbucks coffee for the cost of
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that cable. There you go, Yeah, they gotta ship it to hey.
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But they do make USB adapters that will take in They're very small,
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right, and I have one. I have one at my desk, I
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think, but it'll take in analog audio and convert it to digital my audio
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board. It's so weird because you know, I'm in radio over thirty years
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and it used to be you know, everything was wired just a wired to
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a wire to a wire, and now it's all Ethernet. It's Ethernet to
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you know, uh, to phono too. I mean, it's just it's
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so bizarre, but that's that's how we do audio now. The new HDMI
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is how you know, if you look at the new HDMI cables or listening
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HDMI with Ethernet built into it. And speaking of you know, audio over
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Ethernet. You know, we were just talking. This is something I do
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at work, So you know, I've mentioned on the show before that I
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worked for water World, America's largest water park. And add the tag in
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there, hey, because it's true. We have an audio system that goes
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throughout the whole park, but we're using basically, all the amplifiers are up
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at one part of the park and then they just used you know, regular
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cable to take it all the way down to the bottom of the park.
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So the audio nearest to the amplifiers is nice and loud, but when you
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get to the very bottom of the park, that audio is super faint and
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kind of raspy and staticky and everything because there's signal loss because you're taking it
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so far. So actually, what we're doing now is this next season,
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we're going to be putting networked amplifiers in throughout the entire park. So we're
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gonna be putting network drops, and then that network drop will then feed and
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amplifier with the data of the audio, and then that amplifier then turns it
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into analog and feeds it out to the local speaker's nearest to the amplifier.
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That way, we get a more concise sound throughout the entire park. So
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yeah, going back to your you know what system are you using? I
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have no idea. Yeah, I mean I'm going to guess. I'm going
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to guess it's Dante. I've heard the word Dante come around. Yes,
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it might be, it might be if it's if it's audiover networking, it's
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either going to be Dante or Crestron. I was gonna say, please don't
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use Crestron. Yeah, we're not billionaires. First off. Does that mean
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I have to listen to your voice in crystal clear audio everywhere across the park?
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I'm never going yep yep. More and more companies are using this kind
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of thing now to yep to kind of send their audio. I remember Disneyland.
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It was all wired. You know. I'm wondering if they're doing it
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differently now. Oh, I'm sure they probably are. I mean you talk
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about Disney, I mean, Disney is always at the top of their game.
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To get a buddy. He specializes in av work, and you know
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he started uh he was a sound engineer major at Virginia Tech and his first
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real big job was at one of the mega churches back on the East coast,
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McClean Bible, right, And I mean they had satellite campuses all over
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the place, and he and I would be talking and all of a sudden
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you'd be like, yeah, and then we ran the eternet cable and did
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this, that and the other, and I'm like, this is it's wild
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that audio is now having that AV is having that conjunction with you know,
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general it to where he's reaching out, you know, every now and then
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you'd be like, I got a networking question. I'm like, why do
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you have a networking question for like a v And you'd send me a picture
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of his stack and I was like, oh, no, nope, that
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is not touching it. In the last six years at my job, I've
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learned more about networking than I did in the first ten years of my career.
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Yeah, because all of my work is going into the network. Well
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yeah, over network, video over network. It's it's crazy, so video
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over network that always that just mind boggles me because again you're doing like high
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quality video that is all, but it's all being done over a network connection.
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Man S. R. T is the future. I'm telling you right
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now. Wait, hold on, that begs the question. VOIPE stands for
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voice over I P. What is video over I P? Then that can
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also be called VOIPE the A V I P I don't know what there's or
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v I O I P view up. These are the things we talk about,
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Matt. I'm like googling it. I'm like video over I P.
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I mean that makes sense, right, I mean because you think everybody coined
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the term voipe for voice over I P. But now it's like, well,
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now are you talking about videover audio either a V slash I P or
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a V O I P. Yeah, that's so. I'm thinking a V
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O I avoy would be the term for that. So all right, I
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don't know that this is not really correlating to this, but I do have
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a question for you. A couple of weeks ago, we had Tableau TV
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on the show and we had you know, one of the CEOs on talking
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about what they do. And I have had a chance to experience it and
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I absolutely love it. The quality is amazing for what I've been able to
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get. My problem is I need a better antenna. Now with the Tableau
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set up, I got an antenna, but then I so I thought,
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just not cutting it. I'm getting I was getting about seventy two channels,
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but I'm missing ABC. I'm know I'm missing NBC, I'm missing Fox,
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and I'm missing a few of the other local channels. Wait with with an
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antenna? With an antenna, So, okay, have you rotated your antenna.
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I've got one of the flat wall antennas that can go onto the wall,
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and I've got the Turk Howard and Tennis. Yeah, it's power.
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I've had that. I'm still just not getting Fox, which is what I
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want to get. So I have an idea behind that. So I had
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the same problem when I worked for Fox thirty one here in Denver. I
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could get if I had my antenna in my window, the same kind of
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thing that you're talking about, like a little flat, thin one, and
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I even had it plugged into an amplifier, like an actual coax amplifier.
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Yeah, that's what I've got. I did that, and I could not
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pick up which one was it? I could not pick up ABC in town.
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I could pick up all the other ones. And when I went and
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talked to the chief engineer at Fox thirty one. He goes, there's a
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very easy explanation explanation behind this. He's like Fox, CBS, NBC,
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They're all using vertical wave on the RF on the RF spectrum. So think
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about, uh, for those of you can't watch the video, think about
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how when you stick your car or your hand out the car window when you're
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driving down and you kind of tilt your hand up and down and your your
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hand will move up and down. Right, that's vertical wave, all right.
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Now, rotate your hand ninety degrees, so you got kind of a
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knife hand. This is what ABC is using horizontal waves. So if your
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antenna is oriented in a certain fashion, you're only going to pick up the
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vertical waves, which is what ninety percent of the TV broadcasting companies use as
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vertical wave. But there are some, due to licensing constraints or something else,
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that have to use horizontal polarization. And that's what ABC was doing.
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So when I would rotate my dish, my little antenna my window ninety degrees,
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all of a sudden, I could pick up ABC, no problem.
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But I couldn't pick up NBC, Fox or CBS. So what I ended
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up having to do, which was super stupid, is I actually had to
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rotate my dish forty five degrees and like put tape on the window to keep
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the antenna a forty five degree angle. So therefore I could pick up both
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Fox, CBS, NBC and ABC. Well, I was wondering. I've
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seen these desktop in Tennis where you can put them on your desk. They're
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powered. I'm wondering if that would be a better solution than this one you
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stick on the wall that's got powered. I mean, it's it's it's again,
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it's all about the polarization of the RF frequency because I've seen them on
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Amazon for like sixty bucks and they're saying they've got a two hundred mile radius.
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But again, that's not a difference. Is that is not gonna No,
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it's not. Now, there's a website out there, I want to
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say, and maybe Sean, you can do your Google foe because you're so
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fast at this. But it's like it's like a TV tuner or TV and
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I tried the FCC's website for DTV and didn't during the break, I'll find
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it. But there's a website you can go to and you can type in
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your area code or you in your address and it will show you a map
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of where your local TV stations transmitting towers are located, and then it will
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tell you where to aim your intenna for the best reception. Yeah, yes,
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please find that. We'll take a break. We come back with more
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of tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Duward, I'm Matt
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Jones, and I'm Justin. Let me find us on the web at tech
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Stick. If you are technically challenged, if you got trouble with that computer
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ears, because lord knows I do, you need to listen to tech talk
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Radio. So, before we jumped to something else, something that I was
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thinking about as we were talking about, you know, horizontal versus vertical waves.
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I know, you know when I when I had my first Nintenda,
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it was rabbit ears, you know, you little telescoping things that you plug
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in. Depending on the way the wind was blowing, you had to adjust.
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You know, I can't see Smallville. Tom Wellington's too fuzzy for me
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to tell what Superman's doing. I know they've gone like the panel style that's
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got a fractal design inside of it, but for that it's just a two
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D fractal. I guess it's going to pick things up better, but I'm
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really curious to see if with horizontal and vertical being in play and the evolution
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of manufacturing and micronization of technology, I'd love to see if they're not doing
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like internal three D fractals, which is going to vastly increase your reception surface
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area, but also if it's going to take care of that horizontal and vertical
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problem. There's there's one minor little thing though to that real quick is the
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introduction of ATSC three. You're now cramming what used to be in a particular
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RF band maybe a dot one, a dot two, and a dot three.
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Right, those are like the channels, like, for instance, if
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your channel was seven seven, dot one was your primary, seven dot two
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was the secondary used to maybe carry me TV uh seven Dot three would carry
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like Comet TV or whatever. Right that fit into the standard spectrum. Now
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we're talking about ATSC three, which is now taking dot one, dot two
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and dot three and expanding it to dot one to dot twenty five and you're
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fitting all those extra channels into that tiny little space using a different uh modulation
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algorithm. How is that gonna affect your reception because now it's gonna have to
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be even more precise, wouldn't it. Wow? Yeah, it's it's gonna
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be interesting. But getting back to the fractal side of it, right,
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it's just you have all these crazy designs for fractal antennas, and it's just
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a mix of different patterns and designs to help grab those radio waves and reflect
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them back into each other, so you're picking them up on their main frequency
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and then they're harmonics. Either it's polarized harmonic or it's normal harmonic. Uh.
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There's a lot of fractal antennas in HAM radio because it's easier to do
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fractal antennas with HF bands because the wave links are bigger. But it it
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is. It looks like they are miniaturizing it, right, It's just based
25:03
on my quick Google food. There are some di wise for HGTV fractal antennas
25:10
and it it kind of looks like bow ties. Yeah yeah, I've seen
25:15
those, yeah, and star shapes and some other weird looking shapes just using
25:21
copper so it'd be interesting to see what somebody with a three D modeler that
25:26
could three D model in metal could do. Or I kind of wonder,
25:30
do you I remember growing up, you know, in Orange County, California,
25:33
and we had the old style roof antenna, you know that thing went
25:38
up. I kind of went, would that be still be a better situation
25:42
to have that? Yeah, So you could get a yagy. Those are
25:45
called Yagi's right, it's multi beam but depending on you know, it's UHF
25:49
or VHF, right, but they make multi beam yagis for both VHF and
25:55
UHF. I have one for my Ham radio stuff, which I that's how
25:57
I used to talk. That's what I used to talk to the space stations.
26:02
But yeah, you could get one of those, but it depends on
26:06
all of your Those are very directional, oh they are. So are all
26:10
of your TV stations near the same spot, Like the Grand Rapids Market where
26:15
I did most of my career at the beginning of my career in all of
26:18
the antennas are in the same three tower section near whalesm Michigan with Denver,
26:25
meaning I could swing my antenna straight south from my apartment and pick up all
26:29
the stations because they were all radiating from that same location. Got it.
26:33
But then if I wanted to get the stations in northern Michigan, I could
26:36
just rotate it one hundred and eighty degrees the points straight north. And yes,
26:40
the bottom edge of northern Michigan regis the TV stations. So this is
26:45
this is how most most cities are designed this way, where the transmitting towers
26:51
from your TV stations are usually on top of the same mountain, usually the
26:56
highest point. But then when you get into things like Los Angeles, New
27:00
York, Chicago, that's when you're going to have to have You're going to
27:06
have TV stations coming from every different direction because you have so many different places
27:11
you can place a transmitting tower. Right. I remember when on TV came
27:18
to California that that changed. That changed the game, and we went from
27:22
an antenna to suddenly you had something that came into your house and you were
27:26
able to pick it up and you have this long string for your remote and
27:30
they are long cord, and that that's how you change the channel. I
27:33
mean, it was amazing. And I know we've talked about this before,
27:36
right, and we talked about the reduction of AM radios and cars. Right,
27:40
we talked about this halfu of months ago. We are going to I
27:42
this is my opinion. I believe we are going to see a reduction in
27:48
broadcast television. You think so wow. I completely agree with Sean on that.
27:53
As the as the broadband Internet spectrum grows and grows and grows and grows,
28:00
and the FCC gives more of the radio wave bandwidths to cell phone manufacturers,
28:08
there's going to be a desire to squeeze out those bandwidths well that TV
28:14
stations are using. That's why they move to ATSC three, is to fit
28:18
more content within a smaller bandwidth. I just the money is not going to
28:23
be there. The money is going to be in broadband and streaming. There's
28:29
not going to be an incentive to do traditional over the air television anymore.
28:34
Now. Granted it's gonna be there, it's going to continue to be there.
28:37
Always kind of mandated by the federal government, isn't it? It is?
28:41
It is, But there's no requirement to put content there. Right,
28:47
There's requirement to do emergency services, there's requirement to do public access. There's
28:52
no requirement from NBC, CBS, ABC to actually put content on the air.
29:00
So are you saying that our local Fox station could eventually just lose its
29:08
Fox license and therefore they could not show any more Fox content. I'm just
29:14
giving Fox as an example. They could not show any more Fox content.
29:18
So basically now they're just down to public access basically. Okay, a little
29:23
bit. You might be able to understand this a little bit more in terms
29:26
of relativity to the location. KUSI. They're just a normal news station that
29:33
has no affiliate, that's true, but they do out of San Diego.
29:37
Yeah, it's the San Diego station. There are a lot of other stations
29:41
that are like that. Right. The government is giving money to Fox to
29:45
have the license to the space. They give them the space for free and
29:48
say use this space. But there's nothing that's stopping them from putting not putting
29:55
good quality content there and forcing subscribers to move on to a paid premium place
30:02
to get the content they want to watch. I do know that we're starting
30:07
to see some of our local channel. I'm starting to see more news broadcasts.
30:11
Yes, I was just going to we're you know where Normally you've got
30:15
maybe a block a half an hour or a half an hour and uh,
30:18
and that then it was you know, your national news or NBC their they're
30:22
big program Today show, et cetera. But you're starting to see now they're
30:26
extending that we have like for KLD, which starts early four thirty in the
30:32
morning and we'll go on and now they've added they've bumped one show and they've
30:36
added an hour news block. There. The reason why, and some people
30:40
have asked, is, yeah, they're providing for the community, but also
30:44
that's where they make their money. They're making their ad dollars and they're not
30:48
having to I mean other than having to pay for the talent and uh to
30:52
be a part of that. That's really that's it. And they can recycle
30:56
that news. Yeah, local local, local news. When I was working
31:00
in the news industry, local content, whether it be your local newscast or
31:04
like a local variety show or something that was local to your community. That's
31:10
where they could sell one hundred percent of their advertising and make one hundred percent
31:15
of that revenue. Whereas when you're in primetime, when you're doing Fox,
31:22
CBS, ABC, NBC, whatever, even morning primetime, which is like
31:26
Good Morning America, Today's Show, whatever it is, right, you're splitting
31:32
that revenue with your your main carrier, like your CBS, your ABC or
31:37
NBC, Fox, whatever. So when they do that, and I've noticed,
31:41
yes, you're right, I've noticed even our local one they start at
31:44
four thirty am. They used to go to ten. Now they're going to
31:48
one pm. Wow, And then they have a two pm broadcast from two
31:52
to three, and then they have their four thirty till seven broadcasts. And
31:57
that's the thing that they can recycle those elements. They've already shot them,
32:01
they've already put them together in packages. Then you can recycle it pretty easy.
32:05
Sean, you were in the industry, you know, you go out
32:07
and you shoot a package that's going to air throughout the day, maybe even
32:10
later on in the week. Well, and if you haven't seen them on
32:15
the internet, just google it and look for that. The stories that are
32:20
told on every major market news station, because a lot of that stuff is
32:25
a subscription that companies pay for to get the news that's generated for them.
32:30
And Sinclair, all these large corporations that own the majority of the news stations
32:37
pass this along. We should all have their subsister stations and they have to
32:40
air the content. And the content is the same. Yeah, So they
32:45
have their corporate offices, they do these news segments and they just get pushed
32:50
down on the server. You download it, you run it. There is
32:54
a and it's funny because on k Weld there is another tech guy. And
33:00
I remember when when I saw it for the first time, I said a
33:05
note to to Andrew Capasso, who I will say has announced that he is
33:08
going to be leaving k Weld and Chemi sp a great guy. I just
33:14
I love working with him. When I said in a note and go,
33:15
hey, I'm I being bumped out and he says that, No, he
33:17
says, it's the corporate thing. So they're doing it corporate, this tech
33:22
segment. And again it's like you said, it's being pushed to all the
33:25
gray stations or all the stations, and that's sold as a package. So
33:30
again they just produce it one time and it's just it's all over the place.
33:35
Well look at look at what's his name, rich on Tech? Right,
33:37
Yeah, rich rich Demiro. Rich Demiro. He used to be based
33:42
out of KTLA. Is he the guy that took over Filio too? Yep,
33:45
That's where I was going with this, is he was just a KTLA
33:49
guy. Now. Now, granted, KTLA is a massive station, even
33:52
though it's not one of the top four like in terms of the big broadcasters.
33:57
It's a CW affiliate. Yeah, but KTLA News is one of the
34:01
highest rated news programs in the Los Angeles market. And this guy does the
34:07
text of me and all of a sudden, now he's doing it for San
34:09
Diego. When I was working there, he did it for like a bunch
34:13
of other stations. And now look at him. He's now taken over for
34:16
Leo Laporte, the tech guy. It is now Rich on Tech. He
34:21
does a good job, he really does. He's not He's no Leo,
34:23
though he's uh, well, Leo had a certain way of doing it.
34:27
Leo's been on the show, and I you know, I have a lot
34:30
of respect for him. He did a good job. And I think his
34:32
wife still runs the whole thing, right and uh, Lisa, and I
34:37
think Rich. I don't know, Rich is a part of that. So
34:38
I don't know, I don't know how they're working that, but yeah,
34:40
I mean that's the whole thing is again, it's we're seeing them stretch it
34:45
because that's where their dollar comes in. And it's all about making money.
34:49
But let's face it, when you get ready for work in the morning,
34:52
you turn on the local, don't. I don't turn on CNN, I
34:54
don't turn on Fox or MSNBC, you know. I'll turn on the local,
35:00
know, Fox eleven or KOLD, you know, and see what's going
35:02
on. And I think that's that's the habits for most people. They want
35:07
to know what's happening right there in their community. Well, I mean weather.
35:09
Weather is a big draw. Weather is a big draw to local news
35:14
because people are looking at what their weather's going to be like for their day
35:19
or their week or whatever it is, and that's what they want to see.
35:22
So when you tune into the morning news, there's a reason why they
35:24
have weather jeckins every ten minutes or ten to fifteen minutes. Yeah, is
35:30
because that's what the normal person's news cycle is. They've got ten or fifteen
35:34
minutes while they get their coffee and their breakfast, get the kids out the
35:37
door, and get ready for work. That's how much time they've got.
35:40
So they want to hear the latest news and then the weather. That's it.
35:45
Yeah, that's and that's why I see what was it meant? And
35:49
I was gonna say, and it's it's interesting that you make the point of
35:52
like local versus national, because you know, I'm I'm a corn cutter.
35:55
I don't. I don't have broadcast TV in my house anymore, haven't in
36:00
you know, ten years or so. But if I want to wake up,
36:07
I can wake up. And I'm not actually gonna say the company name,
36:10
but it rhymes with uh loogle because like eight devices will go off in
36:15
my office if I do. But if I say, you know, like
36:19
okay, Loogle, good morning, it'll tell me the weather, my itinerary,
36:24
and then like the top five news stories of the day. But it's
36:28
all national or global news. I don't get any of that local information unless
36:34
I find some way to dial into a local news source. Yep, yeah,
36:37
it'll get me my traffic update, but that's from Google Maps. I
36:40
don't have somebody. You know. Hey, this is Johnny from the helicopter
36:44
taking a look. And we see a jackknife trailer on I twenty five.
36:47
Looks like the drivers slowly climbing out of the cab doesn't make So there's a
36:52
workless voice that's like your drive will take fifteen minutes. So there was a
36:58
big push for a while where you could tie in local news stations to Alexa's,
37:05
Google's or whatever, so you could say, hey, give me my
37:08
local news from Fox, and it would actually read and scrape the information from
37:14
the local news stations and give it to you as if you were getting your
37:16
local news instead. But Google stripped those APIs away, then that kind of
37:23
just crumbled because it was ad revenue that was being taken away from other places.
37:28
Doesn't make you wonder, though, is that an opportunity for a broadcaster
37:31
that it wants to do their own for their local market. I mean,
37:36
I'm I mean, I get in I That's why I think radio has missed
37:39
the mark in some big radio conglomeration corporations. And I've worked for them,
37:45
or you know, I've worked for one of the big guys, and they
37:49
don't They don't want time checks, they don't want weather, they don't want
37:52
this. And the problem is I get in my car if I can tune
37:55
to the local station and I get a DJ that's sitting in that studio that
38:00
can tell me just like they do here at this station, but can tell
38:04
me the weather, what's going on in the local roads, what time it
38:07
is. I appreciate that. That's what I want. I want, that's
38:10
the information I want, And there's only one station in Denver that does that
38:15
right now. Everything else is tracked. There's a British guy that does the
38:22
show. I swear to god England. He's tracking it from England. When
38:27
I listened to this, I'm thinking, no, I swear, I'm thinking,
38:30
hold on, is this guy doing BB one or what is it bb
38:32
BBC one, BBC one Radio one, Radio one out of out of England?
38:37
Like, what the heck, dude, I mean, I'm listening in
38:40
Denver, Colorado. This guy's like, oh, you know what, I'm
38:44
not even gonna do it. I can't. I can't do a British accent.
38:45
I can't, I can't. But this guy's like straight up British.
38:49
Like I'm wait, wait, hold on, what am I listening to?
38:52
Whatever happened to Rick Lewis? Is he still in Denver? Oh? Rick
38:54
Lewis? Yeah, Rick Lewis? And uh yeah, no, yeah,
39:00
no Rick Lewis. And now it's Dave Logan. They do they do an
39:05
afternoon show and then they're also the two of them are the voice of the
39:07
Broncos. So so Rick Lewis does the color commentary and then Dave Logan does
39:13
the play by play on the radio. Yeah, I remember it is Lewis
39:15
and Floor Wax. They were hilarious and Rick Rick did some time in Orange
39:20
County when I lived out there and was great. So yeah, good,
39:23
So Rick Louis still does it. Yeah, all right, got to take
39:24
quick break, come back more of tech Talk Radio. We've got a little
39:29
challenge coming up a little later on. We're going to see who is the
39:30
sharpest, coming up the fastest with the anagrams? Is that what you call
39:36
him? Anagrams? Anagrams? Yeah, yeah, yeah, acronym. You
39:43
send your cousin Anna, all right, Yeah, Hi Andy Taylor, I'm
39:46
sean to hear. I'm Matt Jones and I'm justin le me. You can
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us a message. Thanks. Now back to tech Talk Radio. So it's
40:01
not a drone, which would be surprised by because it's not a drug.
40:06
They announced drums like once a week. All right, Yeah, it's the
40:08
DJI pocket Osmo. All right, so what is that? What is it?
40:12
It's not a drone. I have one of those something that you have
40:15
a you have a pocket Osmo. So it is a palm sized camera that
40:20
is three axis stabilized and it's made by DGI and you pair it with your
40:25
phone and you can record clips and it's incredible. So it's been great,
40:30
right. They first announced the Osmo back I want to say, two thousand
40:34
and ten eleven. You pair it to your phone. It had there's this
40:37
big bulky thing that worked out great. It worked out great, but it
40:39
was big and bulky. Then they announced the Pocket Osmo form factor, very
40:45
small, but it only had I think a one in one thursday inch very
40:47
tiny sensor in it. But it actually comes with a camera, comes with
40:52
the camera on it. Yeah, it comes with the camera. It's a
40:52
gimbal. It's you can joystick control, pan till all the whole thing.
40:57
Then they announced the two, which had a larger sensor. I have better
41:00
low light performance with their their hyper smoothing or whatever they call it. I
41:04
don't remember between GoPro and them. I can't nember keep those too straight.
41:07
They announced a couple of weeks ago they announced their Pocket three and the biggest
41:10
jump was they went to a one inch sensor, which is huge it's a
41:16
big sensor. It's huge for a number of reasons. The sensor is actually
41:19
physically big for a one in censor to be crammed into a pocket sized camera
41:24
allows you to get really great light low light performance and a good pixel density
41:30
which I had to look up the actual pixel density on this said, don't
41:34
see it off the top of my head. But it's for of those people
41:37
that don't want to take their DSLR with them to get stabilized footage on trips.
41:44
You know, if you have a DSLR, you hand hold it,
41:45
you're not gonna get nice smooth footage. But you can pack this in your
41:50
bag, you can pull it out, get your nice, crispy smooth footage.
41:54
And it's relatively inexpensive for about four ninety nine I think is for the
41:58
pocket three Oh wow. Yeah, so just their dj I is known for
42:06
their three acts stabilization, right, they have that's they have the road in.
42:09
They've got a couple other stabilization systems that they have for their broadcast level
42:15
stuff. But h three ninety nine on Amazon is what I see right now,
42:19
three ninety nine or four ninety nine three on Amazon. Okay, because
42:24
I have the Pocket two and I love it. I love the pocket too.
42:29
The only gripe that I have and is this is probably me is A
42:32
is A is an old man. But the screen, the preview screen size
42:39
was just so small, like I had to wear my reader glasses just to
42:44
be able to see what I'm trying to film, which then forced me to
42:49
look at the screen and not at the surrounding what I'm actually experiencing in real
42:53
life. I would love it to have. It's a it's a two inch
42:59
size screen now, so the screen is larger also, that's that's nice because
43:02
this one is like probably less than an inch screen, and it was just
43:07
so it was nice and small. I mean, it really does fit in
43:09
your pocket. And the stabilization and it records at four K video four K
43:15
at sixty frames a second or ten EIGHTP at one hundred and twenty. The
43:20
Osmo Pocket three will do four K one in sixteen by nine, So it
43:24
doesn't use it doesn't use the full one inch censer, right, because I
43:28
think that'd be like a I don't know what the aspect ratio and that would
43:30
be if they use the full censor. But yeah, for if you,
43:35
like I said, if you want nice, good, stabilized footage for a
43:39
relatively pro sumer level budget. This is gonna be where you want to go.
43:44
All right, now, you had mentioned that you can tie it to
43:46
your smartphone, right the footage is it recorded onto the Osmo three itself or
43:53
is it recorded onto the smartphone? Is recorded to your phone? Well wait,
43:59
so wait, so the three doesn't have an SD card anymore because the
44:01
Osmo two has an SD card, it says, and I haven't don't have
44:06
it because the way the Osmo two worked was that you would use your phone
44:12
as the controller. So you could actually plug the Osmo two into the USB
44:17
port on the side, and then you could hold your phone and the OSMA
44:22
would hang off the side and then you could look at your phone was a
44:25
much bigger screen. But then you're kind of always constantly wondering is the ospco
44:30
gonna fall out of the USB slot? So you're kind of like walk around
44:34
with two hands. And that kind of sucked. So I quickly I was
44:37
quickly skimming this said, did misread right? It has no built in storage,
44:40
so you do have to supply a micro SD card. Okay, good,
44:44
good, But it doesn't have any built in internal storage on its own.
44:47
Yeah, so you have to provide a That's okay, that's the way.
44:52
Yeah, that's what DJA always does. Yeah, this article made it
44:53
seem like it didn't have any internal storage. I couldn't believe. So I
44:57
kept scrolling through it and finally read that. But if you, if you
45:00
I want to, you could have it a stream to your phone and then
45:02
you could edit the video on there and then post it, I mean,
45:05
if you're Yeah. So, actually DJI was one of the This is a
45:08
fun fact I did this when I was at Fox is DJI was one of
45:12
the first companies to allow you to do RTSP streaming out of the osmouh.
45:19
So originally, and this is a whole nother level of nerd for me,
45:22
right is I took the ASMO, connected it to the station network, put
45:28
out an RTSPS RTM RTSP stream, had a a server running Engine X pulling
45:36
in that RTSP stream, spinning it out a DeckLink card via FFmpeg. So
45:40
I was taking a live stream from the OSMO over the station network and getting
45:46
it into baseband into the switcher. Can I just say something real quick,
45:52
I'm looking at this DGI website. This dgi ronin four D looks amazing.
46:00
This is like Hollywood level. What is steady. It's a steady can,
46:06
but it's like it's a full on like camera with a gimbal attached to it.
46:10
That looks amazing. Yeah. So if you start getting into the DJI
46:15
stuff with their with their DJI transmission and their dj ronin UH, you can
46:20
actually do control wireless control and actually do you get You can get steering crank
46:25
wheels and stuff for like full on cinema level quality pan tilt zoom from remote
46:34
they did. They went very quickly from a moderate level drone company to a
46:40
industry leading gibble uh stabilization company in in a matter of a decade. And
46:46
it's kind of crazy how they just shot up so fast and they want one
46:50
of these. They've been able to keep the competition away. You think about
46:53
how competitive that got, you know, just six years ago go Pro uh
47:00
some of those other companies they were able to really kind of fend themselves off
47:02
because GoPro got into the drone cameras as well, and you know, just
47:07
it failed miserably, h is what happened. Yeah, And it's funny because
47:12
I like to bring this up every time because if I told you that GoPro
47:15
made a drone, you wouldn't believe me. Yeah, I remember it,
47:17
and people people listening on the radio are gonna be like, GoPro makes a
47:20
drone. We were at c C right justin you were at CS number that,
47:25
Yeah, and they go Pro had it locked in. They were the
47:32
first ones to do it to where you could just take your GoPro, jam
47:35
it into a drone and take it off and fly it and get stabilized video.
47:39
And they just they I don't know what they did, but they missed
47:44
it. Okay, you said you found it for three ninety nine on Amazon,
47:52
Okay, because on the official website for Dji it's five nineteen, right,
47:57
So why I'm gonna put Tecorador on blast? The article stinks. So
48:01
I'm ready to tech Radar review of the Osmo Pocket three right because I was
48:07
about to buy one until I saw that. Now this article is a mess,
48:12
and it's got links for the Action three in here where it should be
48:15
for the Pocket three, and it's the stinks. This article stinks, all
48:22
right, so based but on Amazon, what did you find it for or
48:25
you didn't nine five nine, five ninety nine. All right, so you're
48:30
gonna spend a little more. And there's there's one thing I'm seeing on this
48:32
that you know, we're not quite talking about. Is an eighty percent charge
48:38
in sixteen minutes. Wow. And the Dji pocket too was an eighty percent
48:45
charge in forty eight minutes. For as much as we use the technology and
48:49
everything, you know, the worst thing you can imagine is the dreaded low
48:52
battery or you know, you you know, you took a trip and you
48:58
were out later than you you get back, you forget to plug it in.
49:01
You wake up in the morning and you're like, ah, crap,
49:02
now I'm stuck here for like an hour, or I gotta plug it into
49:07
some external battery. That's you know, I got a cable coming out of
49:09
my pocket. A sixteen minute charge to eighty percent. That's ridiculous. That
49:15
is really hot. Yeah, yeah, right, that is actually a really
49:22
good idea. All right, So we're gonna take another quick break. We
49:24
come back. Somebody here on the show is gonna win themselves something, uh,
49:29
and we're gonna see pocket Osimo three no no, uh, but well
49:34
we'll tell you about that when we come back with more of tech Talk Radio.
49:37
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49:42
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49:46
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49:52
and now back to tech talk Radio. So he said it, tell me
49:54
I haven't done it in a long time. Normally we'll do it like a
49:57
website of the week or product of the week. I think our product of
49:59
the week probably be the Dji Pocket three the from and now everybody wants one.
50:06
So but we're gonna We're gonna give away something very cool bone conduction headset
50:10
from Mojawa, which is very cool. You can wear it underwater, you
50:15
can wear it while you're working out. It doesn't go in your ears,
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so you can hear the open air sound around there. Has the charger with
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it and the whole bit. So what we're playing today, guys, is
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what's the anagram? What it called? It? You no acronym? What's
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the acronym? All right? So I'll give you. I'll say what it
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is. I'll say the short and you've got to call out your name when
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you know the answer, and say what it is in long form, Like
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if I said lol, somebody would justin. Justin would say laugh out.
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And the thing is, you can't just call it out. You gotta say
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your name. If you just call it out, it's not gonna count.
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No. Okay, well maybe you did, and I'll qullified you. All
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right. Are you ready? Here we go. The first one I A
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J B O L I j b O L. No google in it,
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Sean, I don't know that one. W O L I j b O
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L. I never heard that one. I just I just yount at too
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much tween radio. Matt. I just busted out laughing. I just busted
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out laughing. Is it? Oh my god, Oh my god. All
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right, I didn't know that one, so I looked it up. All
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right, here's the next one. A F A I K Matt, Matt
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as far as I know, as far as I know Matt for two points.
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Here we go, come back on the show. Next one, C
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B T M c B. I thought terms, Yeah, I was waiting
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for tech terms. It was like your anagrams things, acronym thank you,
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CB T m B. I don't even now he's looking about his phones,
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so we can't come on guys, I don't know. Did we pass on
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that one? I'll give you the first letter. Could c B Could this
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be me? No COG, could c BT? I have no idea.
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All right, well we'll pass on this one. The answer was, could
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be the move. All right, here we go. Gotta be fast on
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this one. F W I W Matt for maggot, Matt, what is
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it for what it's worth? For what it's worth? Matt for three?
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Here we go? And the next one m y O B Matt, make
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your own beer. No Matt at the native point, uh m y o
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b uh, Justin, move your own body. Justin. You are minus
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one Sean. I'm not even gonna answer because I don't want to mind this
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point. Well, the answer was, mind your own business. Let me
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tally up the points here. See we get to Sean the zero Justin with
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a negative one, Matt two. Matt is our winner today. You won
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yourself a bone conducting headset. So kindly, I'd say, just Gordon ship
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it to Justin, but I know I'd never see it. So all right.
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That wraps up this week's tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm
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I'm Matt Jones, and I'm Justin let me thank you so much for joining
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us and have yourself is a great week. Find us on the webed tech
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