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Ian Furness 9/17 H2: Vince Dunn, Eno Sarris and more! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Hour 2 starts right now. Back at the 32 Bar
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  Speaker 1: and Grill. Day 1 of Kraken training camp. Ian Furness
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  Speaker 1: with you. Eno Saris is going to talk to us
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  Speaker 1: and the Rates and Barrels podcast. Always good to catch
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  Speaker 1: up with Eno. A lot to discuss with him today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask him about Kate Anderson. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to ask him about Kate Anderson. Does he have number
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  Speaker 1: one stuff? Eno's got that whole stuff plus stat metric
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  Speaker 1: he uses.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, two months ago, everyone would have said
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  Speaker 2: yeah before he got here. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But he's a kid in the major for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: But does he have the stuff to be a one?
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  Speaker 1: It's not even so much the results. So we'll ask
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  Speaker 1: him about that coming up because it is time to
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  Speaker 1: look ahead with our baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Team, like it or not.
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  Speaker 4: Sad.
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  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Kraken finishing up. They just finished their second on-ice
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  Speaker 1: session of the day, so they're done on ice doing
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  Speaker 1: some off-ice stuff. We're hoping to hear from Lane Lambert
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  Speaker 1: today at some point popping up here, Kraken coach, once
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  Speaker 1: he gets through all of his obligations for the Kraken.
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  Speaker 1: In the meantime, I have some new leadership here for
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  Speaker 1: the Kraken. They announced the other day that some new
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  Speaker 1: captains and alternate captains have been named, and I caught
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  Speaker 1: up with one of those players, an original member of
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  Speaker 1: the Kraken, earlier today.
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  Speaker 2: All right, year six of the Seattle Kraken. We're here
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  Speaker 2: at the 32 Bar and Grill.
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  Speaker 1: Day one of training camp, year six of the Kraken,
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  Speaker 1: and year six for one of the original members of
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  Speaker 1: the Kraken, number 29, Vince Dunn, is sitting down with
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  Speaker 1: me right now as we get things going this season.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm great, man. Thank you. Good to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Good to have you here, and good to be back
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  Speaker 1: in Seattle. Can you wrap your arms around that? What,
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  Speaker 1: six years has gone by? I mean, you were one
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  Speaker 1: of the original guys coming here way back when and
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  Speaker 1: how things have changed, but here we are six years later.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's flown by, and I think what they've done here,
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  Speaker 3: creating such a dominant franchise that's just done so well,
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  Speaker 3: bringing the community together, I think that's something that we've
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  Speaker 3: really harped on is we're all in this together, and
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  Speaker 3: it's been really cool to be a part of right
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  Speaker 3: from the start. It grew really fast, and you start
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  Speaker 3: to see more and more cracking gear being worn around
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  Speaker 3: the community, more people talking about hockey, having their kids
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  Speaker 3: start to skate and learn hockey, just those things that's
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  Speaker 3: so new to me, being Canadian, everyone plays hockey.
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  Speaker 2: So to be able to teach it, to be able to.
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  Speaker 3: See the diversity that it's created around here, it's really
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  Speaker 3: cool to see that everyone's been a really big part
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been fun watching it. I mean, for someone
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  Speaker 1: like me, I grew up in Seattle, grew up a
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  Speaker 1: hockey fan. My parents are Canadian, so, I mean, Hockey
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  Speaker 1: Night Canada was a religion for us, but not having
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  Speaker 1: a team here, and then I moved away, came back,
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  Speaker 1: and this is home to get an NHL team is,
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  Speaker 1: for so many of us, awesome. But there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: to discuss hockey-wise. Let me first start with the cool
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  Speaker 1: thing that was announced yesterday. You are one of the
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  Speaker 1: alternate captains now, part of the leadership group. You and
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Montour, both wearing A's this season along with Maddie
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  Speaker 1: and Adam, and obviously Jordan Eberle is the captain.
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  Speaker 2: What did that mean to you?
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  Speaker 3: Means everything to me. I wear the jersey with pride
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  Speaker 3: every single day and as a person I tend to
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  Speaker 3: think I'm wearing the jersey at all times just when
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  Speaker 3: I'm out in the community or things like that. I
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  Speaker 3: try to display myself as a good person especially for
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  Speaker 3: the younger generation not just within the locker room but
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  Speaker 3: the kids that you see learning to skate or the
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  Speaker 3: people that follow along on TV or through the radio
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it might be so I take a lot
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  Speaker 3: of pride in being a leader. Obviously the The A
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  Speaker 3: means a lot to me to have it on the jersey,
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  Speaker 3: but I think just the group we have together as
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  Speaker 3: a leadership group is very important, and it's not just
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  Speaker 3: the guys with the letters for us. It's going to
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  Speaker 3: take all of us to lead this team the right way,
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  Speaker 3: and it started today and day one at camp.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Vince, one of the things in our market, again, still,
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  Speaker 1: it's a relatively new hockey market. We're six years in,
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  Speaker 1: even with the junior teams and everything else. It's really
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people still learning the game. One of
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  Speaker 1: the things I've tried to explain over the years is.
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  Speaker 2: That in hockey... that means something more than other sports.
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  Speaker 1: Like you'll see in football, you'll see guys in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: they'll have a C on their jersey, and they just
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  Speaker 1: all see like three or four guys. The guys that
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  Speaker 1: walk out for the coin toss at midfield, sometimes they
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  Speaker 1: change every week. In baseball, it means next to nothing
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  Speaker 1: to be a quote-unquote captain or part of the leadership group.
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  Speaker 1: And NBA, I don't think it even matters at all.
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  Speaker 1: In hockey, it means something. What does it mean? Whether
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  Speaker 1: you're playing youth hockey or juniors or college or what
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  Speaker 1: have you, or all the way to the pro's, Why
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  Speaker 1: do you think it's so important to have that letter?
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  Speaker 2: What does it mean? What does it symbolize?
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  Speaker 3: Well, for me, I think hockey is such a team sport.
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  Speaker 3: And I think having a leadership group that can hold
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  Speaker 3: guys accountable and keep everyone together and achieving the same
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  Speaker 3: goal or trying to achieve the same goal, it's really important.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not meaning that whatever they say is right.
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  Speaker 3: There's going to be room to converse. And we want
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  Speaker 3: to be open for the younger guys or the people
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  Speaker 3: who may not be wearing letters to speak to.
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  Speaker 2: We're all an open book.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's really important to be able to
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  Speaker 3: communicate back and forth within the team and to obviously
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  Speaker 3: lead by example and um to be the guys that
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  Speaker 3: maybe when things are a little sticky they can lean
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  Speaker 3: on us to try to guide them the right way
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  Speaker 3: so um back to the team thing like a lot
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  Speaker 3: of sports you can maybe get away with a couple
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  Speaker 3: dominant players or you know i'm not too familiar with
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  Speaker 3: football quite yet being canadian but i you know you
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  Speaker 3: kind of see like okay there's the o-line team there's
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  Speaker 3: the d team i'm watching um the games at the stadiums,
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  Speaker 3: and they're completely split on the field, right? You've got
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  Speaker 3: the guys in the locker room. We're all one. And
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  Speaker 3: on the bench, we're all one. We're all feeding off
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  Speaker 3: each other's energy. And if the D-line and the O-line,
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  Speaker 3: as a hockey team, they're working together. But if one's slipping,
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  Speaker 3: it really affects the overall progress. There's just no way
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  Speaker 3: of winning if one's not pulling their weight. So for me,
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  Speaker 3: I see it as an opportunity. If those guys are
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  Speaker 3: keeping everyone in line and everyone's able to work together,
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  Speaker 3: then usually success follows.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is very different. Vince Dunn joining us right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in football, like, we're asking guys at, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks camp and practice yesterday, like, defensive guys, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think about when Sam Darnold goes down,
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  Speaker 1: your starting quarterback, and what can Drew Locke do?
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  Speaker 2: And these guys are like, I don't know. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: even in that meeting, right?
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  Speaker 3: We're all in the same meetings most of the time.
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  Speaker 3: So we're all one as a team. So it's a
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  Speaker 3: very different dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I talked to Monty at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the year about the same thing, about, hey, like,
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  Speaker 1: I felt like just watching, those of us watching, we're
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  Speaker 1: not in the locker room, but watching, it's like there's
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  Speaker 1: guys on this team, you being Monty, you being Vince Dunn,
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  Speaker 1: that seem to be leaders and ready for that next step.
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  Speaker 1: And I asked him about that, and he said, I
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  Speaker 1: want to be. I want to have a letter because
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  Speaker 1: I can talk, but it gives you a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more juice, especially with the young guys.
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe that? Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I've always wanted it, and I think now that I
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  Speaker 3: have it, uh, I demand more of myself to even more.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to push myself to, to be better
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  Speaker 3: and to be, to learn. I still have so much
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  Speaker 3: to learn too. So it's not like I'm at the
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  Speaker 3: top of the tree and now I'm kind of in
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  Speaker 3: my own kind of world. Now at the top being
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  Speaker 3: a leader, um, I'm still in it with the team
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  Speaker 3: and I don't want to create that separation. And that
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  Speaker 3: should never be like that in the locker room. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we're all as one, uh, we all have voices to share,
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  Speaker 3: whether you're two games in in your career, 500 games in,
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  Speaker 3: EBS at 1,000, Lars at 1,000. So, you know, we're
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  Speaker 3: all in it together. And I think when you have
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  Speaker 3: an open book like that dynamic, I think that makes
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  Speaker 3: the team just so much stronger.
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  Speaker 1: Ian Furness, Vince Dunn with me right now at the
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  Speaker 1: 32 Barn Grill. Day one of training camp for the
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  Speaker 1: Kraken right here on your home for the Kraken 93.3
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  Speaker 1: KJR FM. First game of the preseason is coming up
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday, both on the radio here on KJR and
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  Speaker 1: also we'll have it on the TV side on the
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  Speaker 1: Kraken Hockey Network too on the KHN as well. So
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  Speaker 1: we get things going. Vince, I mentioned I grew up
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  Speaker 1: here in Seattle, and I grew up a hockey fan
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  Speaker 1: in Seattle, which was kind of a rarity, but mostly
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  Speaker 1: because of my parents, and then did the travel. I
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  Speaker 1: did the tour, the media tour that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: you can relate as a hockey player. I ended up
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  Speaker 1: going to working in Tri-Cities in junior and in the
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  Speaker 1: American Hockey League and Salt Lake and different places doing play-by-play,
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  Speaker 1: and I've always had great pride for this city. We're
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  Speaker 1: not perfect by any means, but I love this city,
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  Speaker 1: and it's my home, and I'll be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: it pissed me off this summer. watching our town and
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  Speaker 1: the organization that I also work for get trashed by
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  Speaker 1: people and, you know, mostly national media. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like we were like some, for some reason, Seattle's like
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  Speaker 1: an easy target. Jason Robertson didn't want to go to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of places, but that became a Seattle thing.
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  Speaker 1: You just mentioned the pride you have for Seattle and
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  Speaker 1: for the Kraken and wearing that jersey. What was going
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  Speaker 1: through your mind when you're hearing people say, ah, nobody
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  Speaker 1: wants to come to Seattle and they don't want to
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  Speaker 1: play here. And I'm going to look down here in
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  Speaker 1: this phenomenal facility in CPA. What was going through your
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  Speaker 1: mind as a guy that's been here since day one?
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  Speaker 3: Well, for me, I've loved every moment of my time here.
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  Speaker 3: I hope to finish my career here. And I think
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  Speaker 3: the news and the noise all about that, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's very easy to create a situation out of something
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  Speaker 3: that never really was something, like you said. there was
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  Speaker 3: a lot of no's to a lot of teams but
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  Speaker 3: I think just we're an easy team to pick on
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  Speaker 3: I guess there's not a lot of noise I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why it is but there's a lot of noise
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  Speaker 3: with other teams you know they're bouncing off article after
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  Speaker 3: article you know this situation you know there's so much
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  Speaker 3: more media focus around other teams and then when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to us probably on the little bit of a
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  Speaker 3: lighter side so whatever they can kind of grab onto,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to. And for the summer, for the most part,
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  Speaker 3: it was Bobby and then went completely quiet. And then
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  Speaker 3: they focused on the whole free agency thing that, however,
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  Speaker 3: in their eyes didn't go well. That probably was never
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  Speaker 3: going to happen in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: Is there motivation at all for you guys in that room? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for sure. Kind of us against the world type of thing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. I think we're so happy with our
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  Speaker 3: team and we know we can improve. within ourselves and
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  Speaker 3: to be better. We have a lot of pride in
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  Speaker 3: the locker room and everyone is very happy here. Everyone
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  Speaker 3: enjoys coming back here. You can see if you are around,
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  Speaker 3: we were all back very early before training camp. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure if it was a bad place to be, that
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't be such the case.
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  Speaker 2: I did a show here a couple weeks ago and
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  Speaker 2: it was packed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, full team basically three weeks before camp. What does
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  Speaker 3: that tell you about the team and the attitude coming
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  Speaker 3: into the season? I love the commitment. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: very easy to fail and to come back and just
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  Speaker 3: kind of weep around and kind of go through the motions. But, um,
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  Speaker 3: it's quite the opposite. Actually. I see a very motivated team,
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  Speaker 3: a very fit team. Um, day one was pretty great
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  Speaker 3: here around training camp. I know it's a really different
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  Speaker 3: dynamic and very confusing for all of us to piece
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  Speaker 3: this together with such a short training camp. Um, so
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  Speaker 3: I think just whatever we've done over the summer and
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  Speaker 3: the excitement and the energy we've brought into the locker
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  Speaker 3: room has been off to a great start.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think happened last year after the break?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and I, I do, like, I'll laugh again. Like,
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  Speaker 1: people want to trash the team. It's like, this is
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  Speaker 1: a playoff team, and then things didn't go so well
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  Speaker 1: in the final few weeks of the season. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like it was a whole season catastrophe.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think happened?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, we were a playoff team and a serious
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  Speaker 3: playoff team at the break.
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  Speaker 2: Call it a fluke, call it whatever you want, but.
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  Speaker 3: We were really happy with our game and where it
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  Speaker 3: was at. And I think that just comes with a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a maturity level, and I think, for
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  Speaker 3: the most part, the second half of the season was.
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  Speaker 3: Not losing games to getting pushed out by other teams
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  Speaker 3: because we were unable to compete with them but kind
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  Speaker 3: of beating ourselves up and um finding ways yeah special
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  Speaker 3: teams finding ways to lose games that were very achievable
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  Speaker 3: um and that's kind of been a weird little situation
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  Speaker 3: with our team we beat teams that people will probably
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  Speaker 3: count us out right from the start and then um
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  Speaker 3: you know when when the odds are more in our
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  Speaker 3: favor are in our favor we kind of come up
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  Speaker 3: short a lot of those games so that's a maturity
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  Speaker 3: thing for me, and that's a mentality, especially being ready
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  Speaker 3: at the start of the games. We come out flat
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, and we've got to find a way
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  Speaker 3: to change that and to make sure that CPA's a
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  Speaker 3: place and advantage for us. We've got the best fans
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  Speaker 3: in the league right now. They're super loud, and the
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  Speaker 3: dynamic of the arena feels a little weird, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 3: for some teams, just the shape of it and all,
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  Speaker 3: so that should be quite to our advantage every single night.
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  Speaker 2: Last thing for Vince Dunn.
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  Speaker 1: What would you give, give fans a little insight when
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  Speaker 1: you've been skating here the last couple of weeks, when
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  Speaker 1: you've seen guys come back, who were maybe some of
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  Speaker 1: the young guys that popped to you and said, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I can, you were that young guy back in the,
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  Speaker 1: you know, 2017, 2018 season, many years ago, right. That
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  Speaker 1: probably stepped into St. Louis and people go, wow, like
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  Speaker 1: Vince Dunn took that next step in the off season.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see that from any of the young guys.
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  Speaker 3: And who day one was pretty simple. Um, I think
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  Speaker 3: when a lot of the younger guys start to get
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  Speaker 3: to town, you're kind of split off. So I haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen a lot of them. Um, Super excited to see Reed,
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  Speaker 3: see his game a little bit. We're watching that on
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  Speaker 3: TV this year, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. How's Berkeley look?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess we'll just feed off the young
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  Speaker 3: guys from last year. Berkeley, or some of the newer faces.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably an easier way for me to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Berkeley or Oscar, guys like that. Yeah, sure, sure.
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  Speaker 3: Looks great. Burke looks fast, strong. Really nice to see.
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  Speaker 3: Curtis Douglas in person. We don't really see eye to eye.
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  Speaker 2: He's quite up there.
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  Speaker 1: For people to know, Curtis Douglas is 6'8. True heavyweight.
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  Speaker 1: But can play. That's been kind of cool to see.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: The old school mentality. A guy fights, he can't play.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: There's no way you can play in this league if
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: you can only fight. You have to be able to play.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: He's got great hands. He's got a great personality. You
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: probably would never pick that he wants to fight a
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: lot of the time when talking to him he's very
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: soft very uh happy and and very all smile so um.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: That's kind of a cool energy to see you gotta.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Like this yeah yeah like like like like for a
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: long time it's like well 29 is gonna have to
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: go answer the bell.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Or something like that sure i love it um so
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: that's been cool to see um and all the guys
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: that were um up and down or kind of around
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: at the end of last year everyone looks great so
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: um i'm excited to see the new pieces like i
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: said it was kind of a weird practice today just
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: kind of get into it for everyone and The dynamic
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: of the skates before camp started were kind of split off.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I'm excited to see everyone. Listen, congratulations. Did
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: you have a good offseason?
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Great offseason.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Did you do some stuff? Lots of golf.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: What's the handicap down to? Somehow a five.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: The gin system's rigged.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're telling me that it should be higher
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: or more? Because you're the guy that cheeses strokes.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: I'm just getting abused. No, you're cheesing strokes from guys.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Who's the worst offender of that? I'm not going to say.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not a rat. Is it Flurry?
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: No, he's good.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: McMahon? I'm not going to say who it is. I'm
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: not going to say it.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: You tell me off the record. I got taken to
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: the woodshed yesterday in our weekly thing, so I'm not happy.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I feel your pain. Vince, we'll do this again. Again, congratulations.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: The A is well-deserved. Thank you. One of the fan
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: favorites here in Seattle.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Appreciate that.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Welcome back for year six. Great to be back.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: There you go. Vince Dunn joining us a little bit
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: earlier right after practice in between workouts and everything else
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: that they're doing today. If anybody's a golfer out there,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: you know everyone thinks the gym system's rigged for different reasons.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't hate it if my handicap was a five,
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you that.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I would gladly give guys strokes if mine was there.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: If I was like, yes, I am that much better
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: than you.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I've progressively gone up this year. I blame it on
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: bad knees and bad back. Progressively gone up. I do
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: know that golf for hockey players, period, is a huge deal.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I think back to the end of the season, one
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: of the things that, and I should have asked Vince this,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: that one of the things that they did at the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: end of the year was they had a big golf outing.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I think it went to Gamble Sands. And a bunch
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: of the guys did. And I remember that Cale Fleury
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: was the defenseman. He kind of organized it. But a
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: big part of it was to recruit Bobby McMahon. He
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: was a pending free agent. And they said, we're bringing
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: McMahon up there. We're going to recruit him. We're going
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to hotbox the guy.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Put him in the corner. Let's go. We've got to re-sign.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: And it worked. It worked. He re-signed.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: That was their one big thing of the offseason, I guess,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: in some ways. But, yeah, I love the handicap system.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: All right. Coming up in just a few minutes. You know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Saris is going to join us.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And I had somebody text me the other day and say, hey,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: what the hell are we doing? We're doing too much baseball.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I always like that. You're doing too much hockey. You're
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: doing too much baseball. You're doing too much college football.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Yes, the NFL is king.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I can't do 24-7 NFL. I've got to take a break.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you like this. I was done.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I needed two days off from the NFL this week.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, I needed a rest, but then I
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: did find myself on Wednesday being like, oh, so there's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: no football?
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: There's no football. And unless you're just totally jonesing to
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: watch the Mariners.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I still had them on.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I just love to punish myself.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: That's what we do. Luckily, I had golf last night,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: so I did not have to watch them. And so
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: that was fine. But yeah, no, I think.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about the baseball team
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: in a second with Eno Saris.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Want to get his thoughts on Just some overall things.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: We'll ask a little bit about the manager. I'm going
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to ask about roster construction, too. He knows that stuff
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: really well. He joins us every week. I think, you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the Ken Rosenthal story today that insinuated that Jerry is staying,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: which means probably Justin is staying, but everyone else is gone,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: like coaches and manager. I don't think that would be
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: a surprise, and I think if we're being honest, we
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be surprised at all if that's all that happens.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And the damn thing will just be, is he going
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: to step down on his own Or are they, you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be a, quote, mutual decision. You know
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: where it won't be a mutual decision is when they
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: replace the entire coaching staff.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: That won't be a mutual decision. And, you know, I mean,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys you probably have to look at. Seitzer,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the main hitting coach. We fired third string
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: hitting coach earlier this year.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: That was good.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: But kept Seitzer, and Edgar's not going anywhere. He'll just
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: be stepping back, I'm sure. The problem is that we
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: fired the third string hitting coach, and the hitting actually
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: did get better.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: It's just the pitching got worse. Pete Woodward, ladies and gentlemen. Oh,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: and I love him. No, I don't want him to
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: go anywhere.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Everyone likes him. And people like Perry Hill. Perry Hill
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: gets a lot of credit for being this defensive infield guru.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Do you see anything in the defense and the infield
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that makes you think that that's been a good thing
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: so far?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Not so far. Not so far.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Eno Saris coming up. Hoping to
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: hear from Lane Lambert as well this hour. And then
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Brandon Funston, 2 o'clock, 93.3 KGRFM. Rates and Barrels podcast,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: The Athletic as well, joining us, weekly visit. Big thanks
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to our friends at Georgetown Brewing. We're looking across here
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: at the 32 Bar and Grill. Where we're at today,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I see a little Bodhisattva tap handle. Fantastic beer, my favorite,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: that's out there all the time.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Hello, sir. How are you?
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I'm doing great. How about you?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: We're licking our wounds in Seattle right now with the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: local Major League Baseball team.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: We're licking our wounds.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's... It's alright. It's interesting because I think
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: there's a dynamic here. Every time they squeeze out a win,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: they're like, well... The math doesn't math, though, does it?
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're The wild card's for sure done. There's
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: no way they're going to do that. And you're five
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and a half behind the Rangers and the Astros with
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: nine to go. I don't know how the math can
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: math out. Do you?
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, supposedly by the playoff odds, they have,
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: what is this now, a 0.5% chance to make the playoffs.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: So we on Rates and Barrels did something that we
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: call closing the tab, which means.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Basically the autopsy on a team. We did the Mariners today, sorry.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the reality is this.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: If you can't beat the A's and the Angels, and
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that's what's happened the last 10 days, if you can't
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: get those wins, Major League Baseball handed them a schedule, right?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: And you can't get that, that just tells me they're done.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And they maybe are thinking they're done in that clubhouse, too.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and, you know, we– listen, there's still a great
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: core here, and there are obviously some questions. We've talked about, like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: the home away splits on the pitchers and the strikeout rate.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: We talked about Cal and Julio struggling all year. But,
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: you know, there's only two teams in baseball that saw their–
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: that saw three players miss their projections by more than
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: 20 points of WRC +. It's like OPS +. And
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: one is the Phillies, and the other is the Mariners,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: with Colt and Julio and Cal all missing by more
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: than 20 points. And Cal and Julio are the engines
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: that make this go. They're going to miss some names,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: but there's a lot of this core returning. There's a
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: lot of good stuff. Cole Young, finding Cole Young was good.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Dominic Canzone is coming to his own. There's a lot
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: of good stuff going on. And I don't know if
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: this is any solace to you, But me and DVR,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: we did pick the Mariners to win the division next year.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Well, and hopefully we have a next year that starts in,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, March or April. But we'll cross that
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: bridge when we get to it along the way. You know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Sarah's joining us here. I'm going to come back to
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the future in a second. I'm going to ask about
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the present. And this is a world that we live
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: in with social media, as you well know, that You know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it's about results, it's about the present, it's about the immediacy,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and it's about instant overreaction oftentimes. Cade Anderson is a
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: guy we've been waiting on for, you know, I guess
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it would have been about 14 months before he got here,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and all the excitement, all the hope, you look down there,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you see what he's doing in AA, and you're like, ah,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: can't wait until Cade comes up here. The results, you know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: have been so-so in terms of the numbers, in the
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: basic numbers, in terms of ERA and the wins and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. But what I'm worried about, not worried about,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: what I'm wondering about is because you look at the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: deeper numbers, the stuff plus, and you can kind of
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: explain that again, and everything around a pitcher. What does
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: all that tell you about what Cade Anderson is and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: what he can still be?
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I think the big thing is that the fastball wasn't
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: as dominant, not as dominant in the major leagues. And
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: that's something that stuff plus catchers by looking at arm angle, uh, movement, velocity,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: and all those things. And, um, you know, it just
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: says that this is not like, um, you know, Peyton
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: totally has a dominant fastballs, 97 miles an hour, surprising
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: movement given his arm angle. Um, you know, Chris sale
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: has a dominant fastball. These are, those are dominant fastballs.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: So Kate Anderson, you know, In the minor leagues, he
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: had a good fastball that he could command. He had
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: great secondaries that he could command. He had a wide arsenal,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: and he just looked so polished that against inferior competition,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: he totally carved them up. That transition to the big
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: leagues is so hard because in the big leagues, if
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: you have a big arsenal and you can command it,
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: you can be okay. But if you want to be
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: better than okay, you have to find the dominant thing
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: that you do, and you have to kind of extrapolate
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: that out. And I do think his changeup is his
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: best pitch, and it's a very good pitch. And I
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: think his command is the second best aspect of him.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: So I tried to look at other young lefties across
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: the league that have below-average fastballs, and have good location
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: and have good change-ups. And the list is interesting. Parker
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Messick is on this list. Parker Messick is going to
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: be the runner-up in the Rookie of the Year, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: he's had a great season for Cleveland. Noah Cameron for
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: the Royals is on this list. He doesn't throw as
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: hard as Kate Anderson, so he could be better than
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Noah Cameron. Connor Prelitz for the Twins is on this list.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: He's been very up and down, but he does something similar,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: something that I think Kate Anderson can do, which is
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: he throws a lot of his breaking balls to set
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: up his fastball and uses breaking balls to lefties and righties.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: And then also, but his changeup is not as good
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: as Kate. And then somebody who's a little bit older
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: and more established that kind of fits this is, is
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: McKenzie Gore. But I would say that Kate Anderson has
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: much better command than McKenzie Gore. The group as a
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: group has a four ERA for the season. And that
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: may not be super exciting, but it is a, I
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: think a way to kind of think that Karrison is
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: going to belong. He's going to be in the big
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: leagues and he's a top five. He's a, he's a
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: top five starter in any arsenal. Like he's like, I mean,
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: in terms of like, you know, in a, in a
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: team's rotation right now, he's probably like a four or five.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: But there's a couple of different avenues for him to
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: come forward, which is to maybe improve the breaking balls
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: so that he can really pitch backwards and Maybe throw
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: a second type of fastball, throw a cutter or a
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: sinker on top of that and confuse people with multiple
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: types of fastballs. And this is the hardest thing to do,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: and this is why this stuff matters. The hardest thing
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: to do is to change your fastball. It's to change the,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: you know, you could maybe add some ticks, but you'd
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: expect he's done the weighted balls, he's done the beefing up.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: If he was going to add velo, he would have
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: done it already. And so, you know, if he comes
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: back next year and he's throwing 95 in spring, that
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: should turn a lot of heads. If he's throwing a
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: cutter or sinker in spring and everyone likes it, that
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: should turn some heads. You know, but he just doesn't
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: get a ton of ride out of that fastball. And
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: so it plays down a little bit. And that's been
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: where the initial disappointment may have come from. But that's
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: not something you can't overcome. My list proves it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: You know, thank you. You know, Sarah's joining us. I
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: want to just reference back to something we talked about
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: early in the year. You brought this up by talking
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: to some of the Mariner pitchers and we've heard them
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: talk about it as well. There's a lot of collaboration
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: on that, that starting staff, right? Like there's a lot of,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you know, guys are working with each other and Hey,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: try this. And I, you can kind of expand on
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it more, but as you're going through that and talking, well,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: does he have a cutter next year? That this is
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: an organization or a staff that that's probably a perfect for, right?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: He has that opportunity because he has the resources and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the other guys on the staff to help him develop
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: those things, right?
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, yes and no. The one thing I want
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: to throw no in there is that those guys are
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: really nerdy when it comes to pitch movements and track
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: man and all that. My favorite thing in the world
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: is to be in spring training with the Seattle Mariners
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: starting pitchers. I mean, Ryan Divish makes fun of me
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: for it, but I come every spring. Seattle's the first
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: place I go, and I just sit there and talk
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: with all of the starting pitchers about what's their new
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: pitch this year, what have they done in the offseason,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: what are they looking at, and they all cross-talk. They
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: all talk about, you know, I learned this from him,
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: and I really liked his splitter last year, so I'm
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: going to try and take that from him. And, you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Cade has come up and said that he doesn't really
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: look at those numbers like that. I don't know if
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: it'll rub off on him and he'll just get there eventually.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: But there is a little bit of a mentor waiting
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: for him, which is Logan Gilbert, who he came up,
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: he got destroyed his first year. You know, he was bad. Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Logan Gilbert did a few things where he changed his
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: arsenal completely, but he also changed his composure on the
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: mound and, like, you know, created that alter ego and,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: you know, did all sorts of things. So, like, if
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Cades needs to be more of a bulldog, you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Logan can talk to him about that. Logan's arm angle
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: is probably the closest to Cades as well. And I
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: know they're righty-lefty, but, you know, arm angle is everything. Like,
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know that Cade Anderson can learn a lot
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: from Brian Woob. because Wu's arm angle is like 30
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: degrees different. But Logan Gilbert's more over the top, and
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: I know that Logan Gilbert has a dominant fastball, but
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Gilbert has switched from, you know, a changeup to a
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: splitter and back. He's through both a changeup and a
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: splitter this year. He's changed his breaking ball a million
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: times over. So that's what I would love to see
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: is Cabe talking to Logan Gilbert.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Great stuff as always, my friend.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Next week, maybe it'll be a 1.5% chance, and we
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: can get to that point.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, tell folks about the Rates and Barrels podcast.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, we did the Mariners today. If
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: you want to give us a listen, we talked about
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: what went wrong this year and what we like about
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: them going forward. We also ranked the playoff bullpens last
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: And I think there was particularly an interesting discussion about
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: the park and what it means on hitting and pitching
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  Speaker 5: sides and what we might do with the pitching staff
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  Speaker 5: going forward if we were coaching them. So we had
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  Speaker 5: a lot of fun with that.
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  Speaker 2: You're the best, man. I'll talk to you next Thursday. Thanks, Eno.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: That's Eno Saris from the Athletic Rapes and Barrels podcast
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: joining us. And, Ashley, we're pivoting here, if you're good
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: with that. I don't like to keep this guy waiting.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to. He's got a look, and I'm telling
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  Speaker 2: you right now, the look, you don't want to see
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  Speaker 2: the look.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to see the look.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: I know exactly what you're talking about. I can picture it.
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  Speaker 2: We saw it too much last year. Yeah. We did
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: see it too much last year.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Lane Lambert is the head coach of the Kraken sitting
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: down with us right now, finishing day one of training camp,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: day one of practice.
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  Speaker 2: How are you? Good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I thought it was a successful day for sure.
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  Speaker 4: You probably saw that look last year more towards the
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  Speaker 4: end of the year than the beginning of the year,
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  Speaker 4: but certainly– I thought day one was a success. The
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  Speaker 4: guys have prepared. You know, there was some good compete. And,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a building block. Obviously, day one is always,
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  Speaker 4: you know, an exciting day. Get the nerves out, this
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  Speaker 4: and that. With the short training camp that we have,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: game in two weeks, regular season. You know, we've, I
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: think we've hit the ground running. but certainly you can't
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: build Rome in two weeks kind of thing. But it's
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: nice to have a first year under the belt with
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  Speaker 4: our coaching staff and with most.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Of our players.
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  Speaker 4: And so we have a pretty good idea of what,
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  Speaker 4: or they have a pretty good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Of what I expect.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my producer Ashley gives me that look, the end
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  Speaker 1: of the year look you just referenced. I get that
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  Speaker 1: pretty much daily.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She cracks the hard whip hot. Lane Lambert is here
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  Speaker 1: with us. So the training camp, I was actually, the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: show before me is Greg Bell. He's the Seahawk beat
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: writer for the Tacoma News Tribune. And he was asking
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: me about, he's like, wait a second, there's a preseason
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: game in two days and two weeks from now? Because
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: we just, all of us on the station, we just
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: came out of a month and a half of training
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: camp for the NFL. Like they start in mid-July. They
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: don't play a preseason game until mid-August. And then, I mean,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: it's forever, right? with the 84 game schedule, the short
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and preseason, how much of a challenge and how different
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: is it from, let's go back to your playing days
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to the last three or four or five years.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: How different is it right now?
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Back to my playing days. See, we, we, we had
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: two ice sessions a day and they probably lasted about
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: an hour and a half to two hours per session.
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  Speaker 2: That's been collectively bargained out. I do believe.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Well, it was certainly was collectively bargained out, but that
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: was eons ago. So, um, you know, this, this training camp,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: it's not, completely unfamiliar territory for me because it reminds
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: me of the bubble training camp. So when we went
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: back and everybody went into the bubble to play in
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, it was a 10-day training camp. What it
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: does for us is, you know, you have to be very,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: very careful of trying to kind of cram everything in
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: and you don't want to have players feeling robotic about
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: trying to you know figure out oh gee should i
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: be here or should i be there right having had
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: last year you know there shouldn't be a lot of
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: that but we you know we did make some changes
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: that we believe will help our hockey team become a
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: better hockey team with our systems a couple things and
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: um you know so we have to dial those in
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: but you you have to let them play And you
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: have to let them compete right now. There's a different
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: level of compete today than they had when they were
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: here skating for the last couple of weeks on their own.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: And you have to let them play and you have
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: to let them compete a little bit more in the
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: short and training camp and not try and cram too
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: much in. Let them be hockey players.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: A lot of it, Lane Lambert joining me, one of
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the things that kind of jumped out is that, and
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I've heard this from a lot of people, and you know, again,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I'll reference other sports. We hear this in Every year
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: in football, college and pro, we hear about baseball. Everyone's
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: coming into the best shapes of their life and all
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: these things that is.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: The cliche in sports.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: But in hockey, you have to come into shape because
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you hit the ground running for two days and then
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: you're playing a game. And what I did understand from
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: all reports, and actually I just did a show here
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, you've had a hell of a
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: turnout of guys that maybe back in the past would
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: have still been on a golf course or a lake somewhere,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: have been here at the KCI working out.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: What did that tell you about this group?
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Well, it tells me that the group wasn't happy with
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: the way the season ended last year. And they've had
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: enough time off. And I think that our leadership group
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: that we have encouraged guys to come back, encouraged guys
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: to come back early so that we can give ourselves...
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know what other teams are doing. It doesn't
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: matter to me. But I can pretty much believe that
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: on August 24th, we had more guys in town than
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: most other hockey teams in this league. Now, that gave
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: them the opportunity to have some really solid practices. We
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: can't go on the ice during those times, but have
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: some solid practices and things like that. But again, nothing
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: is quite the same as some of the competitive drills
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: that we had out there today with the coaches on
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: the ice.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: So that's good.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: But they've prepared themselves, and what it says to me
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: you know, as there's a commitment level and a little
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: bit of an irritation for, you know, how it finished
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I looked down at one point below and I saw,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I think it was one of the first two guys
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to go out and kind of the corner drill on
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the wall, Hayden and Montour, and they went at it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Which kind of sets the tone, right? Like, you need
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: guys like that to set the tone. It kind of
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: felt like I saw that a lot today.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: 100%, yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: No, and I think, you know, I mean, John Hayden's
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: a guy, he's a He's just a quality, quality character individual. And,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: you know, Monty, you know, he's been a part of
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: the leader of this hockey team since he got here.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: You know, he's going to wear an A and rotate
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: an A. You know, he's taken his leadership skills to
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: another level. I don't think that he wasn't in the past, but,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: you know, it's good to see these guys get out
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: there and compete with each other. And they know that
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: In order for our team to get better, they have
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: to compete with each other to make each other better.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Lane, for this team to take that next step, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I had Vince Dunn on earlier, and I think one
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: of the things that's forgotten sometimes when the entire country
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and the national media across the country is bashing this organization,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I think one of the things that's forgotten, you.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Guys were a playoff team up until the last few weeks.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: You had, and it was the same core of guys.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: And.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: but for this team to take that next step without
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: big free agency in this league anymore with no movement
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: clauses and all those things that happen, young guys have
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: to take that next step. I'll throw a couple of
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: names at you because I've, I've just, what you see
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and what we hear Berkeley cat, what do you see
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: from him early for compared to last year?
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Uh, I wouldn't say I, I would, I would hesitate
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: to use the word completely different, but he's, you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: the decision was made last year. Um, To keep him
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: and have him play against men, practice against men on
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: a daily basis. And with the intention that he was
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: going to be much better this year coming to training
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: camp than if he would have got sent back to
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: junior last year. It's night and day for me right now.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: It was a great decision. Berkeley, you could argue that
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Berkeley is... probably the best player or one of the
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: best players at seeing the ice and making plays. So
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, obviously he's still, it's his second year,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: he's obviously young, whatever, but, you know, the sky's going
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: to be the limit for this guy. I see so
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: much potential for this young man.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I'll wrap it up with this.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: What do you, and we'll do this again as training
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: camp in the preseason, which lasts like for a second, continues.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: What do you want to see this weekend?
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: From guys. And actually, let me open this up.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I know you're not going to give me a specific answer.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Are there roster spots to be won over the next
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: week and a half?
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: There's always roster spots to be won. I think the
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: way that you build a culture in an organization is
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: you open up competition and whoever's the best player wins.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: place and it's sometimes difficult in professional sports you know
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: with different things contracts and what not but there's always
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: spots to be won I would never ever uh say
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: there isn't you know if you look at where our
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: hockey team started last year to where our hockey team
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: ended ben myers was on our team jacob malanson was
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: on our team uh you know i i like to
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: go with uh if you earn it you get it
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: and you deserve it um As far as this weekend goes,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: we're going to play a couple of younger lineups. There's
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: only four exhibition games, too, which is wild. And then
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: if you've played a certain amount of games in the
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: National Hockey League, you can only play two. So it's
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: going to be interesting coming out of the gate. But
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: what we're looking for is we're looking for guys to
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: take a step, compete, and showcase themselves. I don't want
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: anybody to do anything that's out of character. just play
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: their game.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Love it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Lane Lambert, head coach, Seattle Kraken joining us. We'll take
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a quick break. Funston, top of the hour. More to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: come at 93.3 KGRFM. Bear with us, but that's what
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: we do during training camp, whether it be Seattle training
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: camp or Kraken training camp. You've got to juggle things.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: You've got guys, coaches, and players sitting down. Ash, that's
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: what we do.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: We juggle. We juggle. We juggle.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Always.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: And we're juggling. Here's what's coming up. Brandon Funston just
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: a few minutes away. Ashley, tell me, can people call
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: in now?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Is that good? Yes, people can call in now. I
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: just am not keeping people on hold for 20 minutes.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I ain't doing that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: You guys are crazy, but we love our crazies. All right, 206-286-9595.
• 41:00
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• 41:02
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• 41:04
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  Speaker 2: So stand by for that.
• 41:11
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• 41:14
  Speaker 1: for Funston questions. We've got a bunch early. We'll get
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: a bunch late. We'll mix them in there. So we'll
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: get you all taken care of today with Funston. We'll
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: all be all good. I do want to– there was
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: one text I want to get to just for a
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: second here because I thought.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: It was interesting. It came in just a moment ago.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Keith Miller.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And usually Keith kind of busts our chops, has some
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: fun ones and all that. And we love that, Keith.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Please keep that up for us. But he says, Lane
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: is the man. I feel good things coming for our Kraken.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: One of the things that I just would say for
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Kraken fans who are frustrated, and there are many that
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: are frustrated.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I get it. I get your frustration.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Hell, I want to do a broadcast every night where
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: games are relevant and they're playing well and they're in
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the thick of the playoff race and all those things.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: And by and large, for about three quarters of the
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: season last year, that was the case, and then things
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: kind of fell apart. But one of the things I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: feel really confident about is Lane Lambert. I think the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: guy is a hell of a coach. I think we
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: saw that last year. I think he got the most
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: out of these guys with a lineup that was both
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: young and somewhat flawed at time, but a core that
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I think is interesting.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: In the NHL, you've got.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Top-line guys, which are 1, 2, 3, so the top three,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: top six, or the top two lines, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: your center, right wing, left wing, your top six guys
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: at those positions, and you talk about their top six guys.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: And then you have a middle line, a third line,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: which is, you know, then you're a top nine or
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: a bottom six, however you want to look at it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Seattle has a lot of guys that are second and
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: third line guys by NHL standards in terms of what
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: their productivity is, what the analytics say, what they project
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: to be. And so that, you know, this is a
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: league you probably need superstars. Well, they're not going to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: get a superstar for a while. Maybe a guy develops
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: like a Berkeley Caton or someone along those lines, but
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: you're not going to get the guys necessarily because So
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: you've got to win with a system, and that's how
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: they got to the playoffs the first year. Hack had
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: them playing a system. They also had some guys that
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: had career years in terms of shooting percentage, but it
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: all kind of came together. Great goaltending is going to help.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Special teams have to be better, especially on the penalty kill.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: But I think those things will come up. People have
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: listened to this show since the start of the franchise.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you if I don't think things are going
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: well with this team. I will be as honest and
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: hopefully insightful as, say, Chuck is with the Mariners.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I'll be the same with this team. Perfect.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: And I.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I don't, listen, I don't love the roster at all.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I don't love the roster. I think it's, I think
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: there's still some massive holes. I like the coach and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I like the coaching staff and I like the goaltending.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: They've got to find a third pair of defensemen and
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: they've got to have, and guys have, here's the thing.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: We talk about this with the Mariners all the time.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: You've got to have guys take a step forward, right?
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: You've got to take a step forward.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, 100%. Cole Emerson, Cole Young, take a step forward.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Berkeley Catton, Oscar Frisco, Yanni Newman, whoever it is.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Take a step forward, and I think we'll see that
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: this year. All right, let's do this. Take a quick break.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Come back. Brandon Funston, moments away.
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