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Phillies Dodgers Series Ends in CHAOS · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts. Right now.
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Welcome back to the three O take presented by Chinook Cedry this
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episode 575. I'll be your host Kyle Korne.
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I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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Nate. That the look you're giving me
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right now, it could mean so many things and I'm I'm very excited
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to dive into what it actually does mean.
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Or maybe it means nothing and you're just just had a long day.
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Maybe that's all it is. Or maybe it's a combination of
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both? All the above.
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All the above. D All the above.
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Yeah, which is always the choice, by the way.
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If it's there, you have to take it.
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Right. Come on, have you ever think
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about it in any test scenario? Have you ever encountered in all
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of the above and it wasn't all of the above?
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Genuinely asking, Think hard on that.
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In fact, you probably don't need to think too hard on it, because
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I think the answer is pretty obvious.
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Unless they hit you with AD all the above and then an E, none of
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the. Above none of the above.
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Well, that's a flip of the coin I got.
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It really. Actually, sometimes that's
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usually when it's like B, It's like, oh.
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Yeah, yeah. Weird.
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It's 32. How did I get 129 anyway?
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How did we get here? Speaking of, how did we get
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there or here this this day of baseball, I'm thinking of one
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game in particular that's really sticking out to me.
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And boy, did I'm glad we waited to record tonight.
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For those wondering like, oh, like, where was the Thursday
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drop or no, yeah, where was the Thursday morning drop?
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Wow, With the way that this division, these division series
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have played out like, ah, let's just kick it to Thursday night,
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buy us another day, see if we can get some more tickets
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punched. We did.
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And boy, was a ticket punched. I don't know that I necessarily
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want to start there, though. Let's go back.
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Let's let's just go chronologically here.
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Sure. No, honestly.
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And you can thank you can thank Orion Kirk Green.
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Not that I'm putting blame on him, but you can thank the
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ending to that Phillies Dodgers game.
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No stop. You can thank the ending of that
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Phillies Dodgers game for defusing any any real emotion
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that I was going to bring to this conversation about the
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Yankees and Blue Jays. So you're a.
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Proud mother over there. You're off the hook.
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You're off the hook. I, to be quite honest with you,
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the fact that we didn't do it right after the game last night,
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I, I kind of slept on it. I woke up and I was like kind of
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kind of fizzled out, truth be told.
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And I feel like it's probably the same with you not having to
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record after your team gets, you know, bounced.
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We did have the we, we had the dialogue.
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We said that if the Dodgers won, we would have because that would
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have been 2 tickets punched, right?
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Yeah. But the Phillies won, so.
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Phillies. Appreciate the Phillies on that,
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honestly, personally. That's what I'm saying a lot of
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a lot of thanks to be given here.
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On a personal level, thank you, Phillies.
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Yeah. So now, I mean, it's, it's sort
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of a disservice though, because you don't get the raw emotion
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from Nate. I'm sure it'll it'll, we're
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here. We'll get it going a little bit.
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Cheers. But let's let's let let's start
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there. Blue Jays Yanks Game 3.
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It's really where this conversation starts.
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Aaron Judge signature playoff moment.
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It's about time. I mean, come Nate, come on,
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you're shaking your. I'm not going to take the bait.
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No, no, no. Come on.
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You're shaking your head, but you got it.
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Like meet me in the middle here. Like, come on.
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What? What was there before that?
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As far as a moment goes. Signature moment for a Signature
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player playing for a Signature franchise.
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What was it before that? And I'm not necessarily looking
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for, I'm not, I'm not even looking for an answer.
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But the fact that you or anybody else that hears me ask that
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question, the fact that you have to think about it.
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No, I'm not. I'm not saying it's not.
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Something. I'm not saying it's unfair, I'm
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not saying it's unfair, but whatever.
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Game time three run Homer to notch it at what was it 6 in
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game three against the Jays I. Mean.
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Proved to be the boost the Yanks needed to push it one more day,
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but. 100 Oh, my hands was insane, I think.
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I think the difficulty of the pitch made it that much sweeter.
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You know, like it was 8 inches inside at 100.
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It was nuts. Who's even on the bump?
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I'm already I'm already drawn a blank.
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The What's his face? Who started Game 4?
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Opened for Game 4. Forget his name.
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Who's that reliever? Drawn a blank.
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Varland. Varland.
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Oh, Louis Varland. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
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Yeah. 100 boring in on his hands.
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It was a big moment. It was good.
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Pretty cool off the foul pole. I was stoked when it happened.
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I was pretty checked out. I won't say checked out.
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I turned the volume down when it was like 6-1 and I was like, I'm
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just. I don't have like the I don't
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have like my heart can't take any more of Joe Davis getting
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excited about more Blue Jays positive things.
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So I was like, I'm just going to turn the volume down a little.
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And Johnson also is pissing me off.
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So I turned it down a little bit.
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And then like it started like the as they started to creep
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back into it, like the volume got like like a little higher.
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And then when he hit it, it was sick.
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I froze. And then I turned the volume up.
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I was jumping. It's cool.
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I mean, let's not act like Fox Sports is rooting for the
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Toronto Blue Jays in this scenario.
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No, no, no, I just no, I'm not saying that in any way.
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I'm just saying I Jon Smoltz gets under my under my skin all
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the time. But I Joe Davis does a good job.
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I just, I don't like hearing him get that excited.
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It's so odd. And this was a very good
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argument that I saw on social media today.
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And honestly, it's probably being talked about every year.
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But like I, I do wish that you could listen to I I wish we had
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a broadcast with our normal crew.
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You know, we spent our entire year listening to our crew that
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knows our team, that knows the nuances of situations of
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players. They can tie into a full season
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of context. And then you have you have guys
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that come in and and don't get me wrong, I think Joe Davis does
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a good job. I think John Smoltz does a good
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job at times. But like they're not tapped in
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the whole time. So like when they say stuff it
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like us fans know better in certain scenarios.
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So that's all I meant. But yeah, sick, sick moment.
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Really cool. Honestly, the only negative
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thing I can say about is Marlins Man sitting in the in the first
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row. Everyone's standing up with
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their hands in the air in the in the freeze frame of it.
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That idiot's just sitting there, bright orange, like just ruining
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a moment in history. But thanks.
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The Marlin the Marlins Man run has has run its course.
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I do believe. However, I will say I I have to
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think that when we're like 80, there is something.
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Something you remember that way. Yeah, like we're going to be,
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we're going to be flipping through.
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I mean, if they even have books when ready, who knows?
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They're going to be like flipping through books,
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watching, watching. Paper.
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Watching highlights and the kid, the the kids are going to be
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like this is stupid. What is this?
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And then we're going to get like old man defensive like you do or
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like old men do. We find ourselves defending
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Marlins Man and. We're going to be like, hey, you
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won't even know. Let sit sit down here on Pop
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Pop's lap and let me tell you about the lore of Marlins Man I.
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Told you he's a prick, right? I met him.
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Yeah. I met him at Yankee Stadium.
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I don't remember. It was the 2017 or 2018 run.
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I whenever, whenever Jeter stepped in for the Marlins and
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like, I didn't know about the beef when I met him and I was
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like, let me go take a picture with him.
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I think I can. I still have the picture.
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I was like, I'm going to go take a picture with him.
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And then when I was standing there asked and I was like, So
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what do you think of Jeter down there?
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And he goes, guy didn't even graduate college and has like AC
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average in high school. Why is he owning a sports team?
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And I was like, thanks, take care.
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I'm not getting into this with you, loser.
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Anyway, yeah, game three. Good, good game, Exciting game.
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Pretty pretty neat. Sorry, I was just looking for
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this tweet where he was like clapping back on Twitter some.
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I think somebody was like, this guy's a loser and he tweeted a
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picture like from his view from behind home plate.
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And he was like, I know or something.
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I don't know. He's just having fun with it,
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but. I do want to know where the
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money comes from. That's what I don't know, like
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for this long, dude, this this has been a historic run.
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Just yeah, in terms of events he's been at.
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Enough. Enough is enough.
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Enough is enough. But yeah, not to not to take
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away from from the Blue Jays, obviously Blue Jays did what
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they had to do. Vladdy Guerrero, Yankee killer,
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even contributing in Game 4, even though it was not, even
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though he didn't go deep, which I think at this point, at that
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point in the series, you're just sort of, Yep, there he is.
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There's, there's Marlins Man. Stupid Continue.
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Wait, in Game 4, you kind of you, you kind of had the
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expectation, like he could literally. 2019, Yep.
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The Yankees proved that they were not smart enough to just
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put them. On I don't understand.
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There's like, why do they keep pitching to let's keep pitching
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to them? So you have the expectation that
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like any one of these at bats could be going over the fence.
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But like I said, even though he didn't do that in Game Four, he
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still contributed with a run or with an RBI.
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Excuse me? And the Yankees did what they
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had to do. It was definitely A2 strike
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count. I don't think it was full.
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I think it was like O2 or 1/2 and it was like a cutter way off
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the plate. And you can tell when that
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dude's just like super locked in because he that's the aspect of
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his dad that he has in his game is the plate coverage.
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And he can still find a way to get a barrel on a ball.
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And he just smoked this ball to right field that was well off
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the plate. And you're just like, stop,
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Like, stop putting this anywhere near him.
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Put up four fingers. And it was a man on second,
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first base open. I don't understand.
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How about, how about Boone's response?
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I mean. I didn't.
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I have no I haven't watched any post game interviews quote.
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I haven't seen any quotes. I haven't seen anything so so
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after the game you're about to read off.
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I have, it's new for me. After the So let me preface it
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by saying I like, I, I understand why he would respond
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this way, but I guess just the timing of it was interesting or
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I don't know, maybe it was the tone in which he was, I don't
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know. There's just something about it
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where I'm like that kind of, I don't know if that's going to
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sit well with people, but they said, do you, I'm paraphrasing,
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but they're basically just like, do you expect to be back as man,
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as manager next year? And he was like, yeah, I mean,
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I'm under contract. It's like Boone, you know, we
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know that's not what what's being asked here.
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The question, Sir, that's that like, yes, you, you answered it
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quite literally, but that's not what's being asked here.
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But anyway, I thought that was funny.
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But again, the Jays won the series, so I, I, I don't want to
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lose sight of that. I the Yankees.
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Couldn't hang. It's that's.
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It's just plain and simple. They couldn't hang.
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And I said it before, I said it on our last, last pod.
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I said at this point, let's get weird.
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Give me a what did I say? Brewers, Blue Jays, World
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Series. I'm so in at this point.
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I'm not like I'm not actively pulling for the Jays, but I
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just, I'm, I'm thinking of it through the lens of of potential
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entertainment and I just, I feel like there's something special
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happening with this Jays team right now.
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And watching these game, watching their games at home has
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been very, very fun. Here's here's the here's why.
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It's because they play the baseball that we grew up playing
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and learning. It's not, it's not even a style.
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They play baseball. Most of these other teams don't
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play, especially the Yankees. It's the true 33 outcome BS that
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we're just, it's horrendous. We're numb.
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To at this point. It's not baseball.
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It's not. It's hard to watch, dude.
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And what's refreshing about the Blue Jays?
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What's refreshing about the Brewers is that they can they
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can play a complete game. They cover all aspects.
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They don't strike out. There's value in putting the
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ball in play. And we saw it in Game 4 where
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it's a routine one hop to Jazz Chisholm that should have ended
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the inning with a double play and it clanks off of his heel,
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goes into center field and they I think they get two runs that
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inning and it kind of just seemed to snowball from there.
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It's we'll get into it later, but it's putting the ball in
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play with bases loaded. Never know.
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And and the Phillies are going home because of it, right?
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That's the way baseball needs to be played.
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It can't just be a swing all the time.
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It can't just be one through 9. You guys all have the same
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identity. It's exhausting and and the
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Yankees, what I don't think they're alone in this, but
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they're absolutely proud of of their game plan and the way they
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go about it. Guess what, It's not working.
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This isn't working. The boom era, the front office,
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this philosophy. And I don't want to just slap
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like analytics across it. It's the reality that like
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they've somehow flip-flopped in developing pitchers properly,
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but they don't know how to develop hitters.
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And the only reason Judge has found the success that he has is
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because he went and found his own hitting coach and he left.
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Whatever philosophy is being taught there, it it doesn't make
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any sense. And it's it's quite literally by
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definition, insanity because they just rinse and repeat and
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they gaslight all of us fans saying that this is going to be
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different. And Anthony Volpe is probably
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going to be the opening day shortstop next year and Aaron
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Boone's going to be at the helm. Because it's just what happens
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over and over and over. And the only positive thing I
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can look at it say, well, hey, at least Garrett Cole's coming
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back and whatever, man, Brutal. I wanted on record that I tried
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bringing this back to the team that's moving on multiple times.
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No, I know. But to be fair, I no, no, no,
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that's what I was going to say. I know that's, that's what I was
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going to say. To be fair, you you needed your.
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You need the floor. What did I say a month ago?
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I said I was ready to get my heart broken again because they
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started to get hot. They started to try and chase
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down the Blue Jays in the division and it started to get
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close and like, yeah, let's let's do it again.
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Let me sign up. Let me sign up again.
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We all get our heart broken. 29 fan bases get their hearts
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broken this time of year. That's what people like we're we
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like to pretend like that's not the case like oh your team, how
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far did your team make it? Nobody cares how far your team
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made it unless you won the last game of the season.
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We're all losers except one team and that's the team that wins
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the whole thing. The.
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Problem is the hope, the aspect of hope.
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Well, some of us. Lost hope In July, some of us
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lost hope before first pitch of Opening Day.
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Some of us, some of us have never experienced hope.
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It's the ones that have that late disguising hope,
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mischievous hope where the real sickos I think.
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I it we're we're past due to get some sort of sicko merch.
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I think so too. We need it. 162 sicko.
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I like that. I'm down, I'm down.
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Talking about hope, you know, a team that has no hope now
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because they are going home. Philadelphia Phillies.
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Let's talk about it. We don't.
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Look, we can sit here and talk about game three.
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Yeah, the Phillies came out swinging well even before that.
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The the IT. Was tight for a bit.
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That game wasn't. It yeah, but not for long.
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And when I say that, I mean like, yeah, it was tight, but
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then it it snowballed very quickly.
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Like through 3 or 4? Yeah.
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But even before that, the whole the which this is the kind of
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news or like the, the news that intrigues me this time of year.
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I'm like, I I don't care about analytics.
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Give me, give me, give me the news on the Mojo.
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What what are we, how are we Like, what are the news and
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updates as it relates to the Mojo?
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And when I saw the update about the powder Blues that they were
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bringing out to LA, I'm like, I like this.
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I really like this they had. The special request, right?
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Yeah, I was going to say they had to, they had to ask Major
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League Baseball that if they could replace their Rd.
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Graze. And I was like, oh, this could
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be something it ended up not, but I was like, this could be
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one of those weird things that I always like to talk about where
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it's just, it's insignificant, inconsequential, but it's a
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thing that you can kind of rally behind.
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And they said, we're only bringing the powder Blues.
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We're not taking another uniform with us and we're coming back.
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This is basically the message. It was, you know, that that came
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from that. But as I mentioned, not to be.
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So we really don't need to talk about game three.
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I mean, yeah, like I said, they, they they put up an 8 spot.
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I'll, I'll, I'll put my hand up. I was talking.
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I was talking noise on Aaron Nola.
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Job well done. Good start.
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Yeah. Respect.
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Respect. A strong two.
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Big moment. A strong, strong two for Noah.
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Yeah, I was just. Yeah.
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That's all my notes from Game 3. No, sorry.
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I laugh because I agree with you.
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But in the moment I'm like, I was with you.
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I was like, what? Why not just?
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Why not let it run? However, that is very easily one
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of those scenarios where if he goes, if he goes out for the
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third, out for the 4th, gives up a three run bomb.
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They're calling for his head. We've seen that play out way too
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many times. So I'm not going to sit here and
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and ridicule that decision. It ended up working out great.
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Ranger Suarez, who generally this year had been very good for
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you, was able to harness that and and bottle that up and and
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we saw it play out for his for his out.
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And what do you go 55 innings? Yeah.
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But yeah, that's game three-game 4 is really the the talking
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point of this series. Still raw.
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Honestly, for me as an honorary Phillies fan, still trying to
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digest what I saw, feel. Like everyone reacted the same
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way. Did you put your hands on your
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head? Oh yeah, I I let out an audible
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like, what are you doing? Yeah, I think everyone watching
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that game did that. All right, well, let's talk
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about. It Dave Roberts didn't even know
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what to do. He just took his hat off and he
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was like, Nah, what is? First of all, let's just let's
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all make sure we're on the same page here.
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Unless you're a Dodgers fan, if you're a fan of any of the other
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29 teams, or just a general baseball if you're a Rob Lowe of
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baseball fans, which is kind of a weird place to be.
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I don't know how you're just a general baseball fan, but if
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you're a general baseball. Fan He thinks he's a Dodger fan,
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but I don't think he's. Again, if you're not a Dodgers
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fan, we can all agree that was a stupid ending to a a a good
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game, an entertaining game. I don't wish that ending on
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anyone. That was brutal.
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I don't wish that ending on anyone.
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I was, I was and I, I told our resident Philly fan in our
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fantasy group group chat. I was like, I had to apologize.
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I'm like, I'm pissed and I don't have a dog in the well, I mean,
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honorary Phillies fan, but you know, objective objectively, me
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small dog Chihuahua of sorts, not not having really a dog in
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the fight. And I was pissed.
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I like, I was angry at the way that that game ended because I'm
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like. No season deserves that's.
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What I no, no season that involves 162 and change of
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however many postseason games you know, you play to get to get
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to that point should end the way that that game did.
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That was horrible. And honestly, if you're the
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Dodgers, you're not going to be like, can we redo that?
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We want to earn it the right way.
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Like I'm not saying that, but you got to think that there's
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like a weird, I don't know, there's maybe I'm way I'm
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looking into this way too much, but I'm just thinking like, at
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least initially you're going, we kind of feel slimy.
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I don't know, because like you said, Dave Roberts didn't even.
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He's like, what just happened? Took his hat off and put his
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hands straight in the air and started jumping like a child.
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Literal child. Literal child.
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And I, I don't think I ended up saying this.
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I didn't I don't think I verbalized it, but I was, I had
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the thought where I'm like, I would have rather just been like
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a Shohei walk off or something like just just end it, end it
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clean. But this, this made me so mad.
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Just as a fan of like good baseball, just just pissed me
25:24
off. Well, I think that's the side of
25:30
this, right? Like that's the side of it's the
25:35
downside of being on this side of the argument.
25:40
You know where we're going to sit here and say like, let's
25:43
let's start trying to limit strikeouts.
25:46
Let's start trying to put the ball in play.
25:50
And when you put yourself in a scenario like this where you
25:53
don't necessarily have a dog in the fight and you're just
25:55
watching a game, balls being put in play, there's this is bound
26:02
to happen at times weird, funky unforced errors and one team
26:11
absolutely gets embarrassed over it.
26:15
Right. Like I, I, I hate that it
26:22
happened that way. Like, there's probably a better
26:26
way. Like, say it's, I don't know,
26:29
say it's first and third one out and it's a comebacker to the
26:33
pitcher and he tries to go to 2nd and he just sails it to
26:37
center field. Like I'd almost rather have
26:41
that. I'd almost rather have you gun
26:44
it and just completely airmail whoever's trying to catch it.
26:49
This was like a shot put. I can't even get my fingers on
26:55
this palm ball. Yep, because let's face it, even
27:01
at the velocity it was thrown, I don't think it would have been
27:04
on time. No, no, in it it.
27:08
There was no play at the plate like you said, even with a
27:12
perfect throw. You saw Rio Muto pointing the
27:15
first. Yeah, and you saw?
27:16
Bone pointing at home, by the way, I don't know if you saw
27:18
that view. I did not see that view.
27:21
And that's what made me wonder because he was kind of in the
27:24
peripheral of the, of the pitcher too, like when it
27:27
clanked around by his ankles. Like you can see that there's
27:30
like a look up, see where the runner is.
27:32
And Boehm's pointing towards home.
27:35
And I, I can't, I'm not going to sit here and blame Boehm.
27:37
There's like, yeah, there's, it's just unfortunate there's so
27:42
much we haven't even like gotten into the actual play.
27:45
There's so much to to break down about this play.
27:51
For those of you who are saying stop making excuses for him.
27:59
He should have thrown the ball to 1st obviously.
28:04
Obviously he should have thrown the ball to 1st.
28:06
That's the point of the play. My problem though, I was just
28:15
dealing with complete and utter incompetence in the comments.
28:20
When I when I put this post out, I I could have I sort of told
28:23
you about it and you were I want.
28:25
To find one. You were dabbling in the
28:26
comments. I put out this tweet immediately
28:29
after the play, after the game ended.
28:31
I said it's easy to say quote. He had all day to throw to 1st.
28:37
End Quote. But when you boot it, the crowd
28:40
roar intensifies, the game speeds up 100 X immediately, and
28:44
you see the winning run in your peripherals.
28:46
It's easy for panic to ensue. And everybody just hit me with
28:52
the yeah, but he should have thrown it to 1st.
28:56
Again, obviously he should have thrown it to 1st, but let's not
29:01
pretend that there's not nuance here.
29:04
Guy 3/4 of a way through a sleeve of Oreos on his couch
29:09
who's seen the replay 12 times in slow motion.
29:14
Could go for some Oreos. There's so much that happens
29:18
there to the people that say, well, he, he booted the ball,
29:21
but he still had time. OK, let's stop right there.
29:26
If you've played baseball at any competitive level, you will know
29:30
and and shout out to the people that were backing me up on this
29:33
element of it. If you've booted a ball, your
29:37
sense of time immediately becomes skewed because you
29:41
think, shoot, I just booted the ball.
29:43
In your mind, the guys basically like 2 steps from first base in
29:47
this moment, he's not thinking, oh, I still got time.
29:51
He, you know, what he sees is high Song Kim 3/4 of the way to
29:55
home and he's going well because I booted it.
29:59
The guy running to 1st is probably presumably already
30:02
there even though he wasn't as we know he's thinking he's
30:06
probably already there at first. I have, I have short of throw.
30:10
I have to make this play that's right here in front of me.
30:12
That's what happened when when he booted it.
30:17
OK, so then the next element of it, people saying, well, he
30:25
should have seen JT Realmuto, he should have heard him.
30:29
He he was probably shouting to throw it to 1st.
30:33
You think that's what he's focusing?
30:35
You think that's where his attention goes in the middle of
30:39
what does Dodger Stadium hold? 30.
30:45
You think 56,000 people? You think 56,000 people
30:51
shouting? They're lying.
30:53
Is that Wikipedia? You think 56,000 people shouting
31:00
in a moment where you're you basically black out because
31:04
you're going. I I just booted the ball.
31:07
I likely just cost us our entire season.
31:09
This is likely everything is going through his mind as it's
31:12
happening, just. Have a second or third deck in
31:15
the outfield. Sheer panic.
31:17
Sheer panic. The comment about the PF PS By
31:21
the way, look, that was 8 months ago first of all.
31:29
Second of all, it's not the same and and I'm not going to sit
31:38
here and act like I've played at this level or anywhere near this
31:42
level. No, but you've at least played
31:44
baseballs. But I have.
31:46
These people have not exactly. It's so clear, so obvious to me
31:49
tell you that there is this, there's an inner clock
31:55
specifically as an infielder, I'm sure pitchers have the same
31:58
way. There's an inner clock that you
32:01
don't necessarily have to make eye contact or even see the
32:06
runner going down the line that you know, I'm running out of
32:10
time and it's not PF. PS Because fungos being hit in
32:16
Florida in February are not clanking around your your
32:23
ankles, you're not panic mode during PF.
32:26
PS It's impossible to simulate this.
32:31
You can't. Have you seen footage of these
32:34
guys taking PF? PS They could not care less.
32:37
That's what I'm saying about the.
32:39
They do then, yes, but they do not care.
32:41
And practicing that it's it's just never going to happen.
32:44
You can't simulate this moment. And I'm telling you, PF PS are
32:50
one thing where you feel it cleanly.
32:53
You can set your feet square your shoulders and make a good
32:56
throw to 1st. It is a whole different thing
32:58
when that rhythm is messed up with a large amount of Dodger
33:04
fans. I'm not buying into that number.
33:05
A large amount of Dodger fans yelling and and you're panic
33:11
mode and there is this corner of your eye picking up this dude
33:15
barreling down the line. I'm not saying that the play
33:21
shouldn't have been made. Obviously the play should have
33:23
been made like that play should have been routine.
33:27
Maybe the Phillies going to win that game.
33:28
I don't know. Maybe he goes on for maybe it's
33:32
still going. Maybe it's the 16th inning.
33:34
I don't know. But the truth of the matter is
33:38
it's like this is the whole point of baseball.
33:42
This is the whole point of putting a ball on play is for
33:46
these types of mistakes that could happen.
33:50
That's why you are if you're on that side of the argument, if
33:54
you're if you have a normal functioning brain and you don't
33:58
sit there enjoying a 27% strikeout percentage, whatever
34:02
the league's at 22%. I have no idea what it's at, but
34:06
it's in the 20s, which is insane if you don't enjoy that type of
34:09
baseball. This is the caveat.
34:12
This is what happens. You have to understand that if
34:16
you force balls to be put into play that you can force errors,
34:20
you can force issues and we saw incredible plays, we've seen
34:27
incredible plays. I'm I'm actually kind of swaying
34:30
a little bit closer to like there are some athletes on the
34:33
mound, There are some incredible athletes by with pitchers.
34:37
Christopher Sanchez tonight made it one heck of a play on a
34:41
comeback and throw to 1st. It just is what it is man.
34:47
These are these are relievers by the way, don't do a ton of PF.
34:50
PS It's mostly starters. Relievers aren't the more
34:55
athletic defenders when it comes to the pitching group.
34:59
It's starters. This was just the worst
35:03
nightmare, perfect storm situation and it hit.
35:08
And I, I genuinely feel for the Phillies.
35:11
I genuinely feel for the Philly fans.
35:13
That is a that would haunt me. I I'd rather have the
35:19
embarrassing blowout loss that the Yankees had in the World
35:22
Series last year then have my season end that way.
35:31
I'm I'm just going through the other takes that I've seen in
35:35
response to this play that just make my blood boil.
35:41
I've I like, I've already seen countless people say, well,
35:47
pressure's pressure. He's a professional.
35:49
He just has to make the play. No kidding.
35:51
He has to make the play. It's his job.
35:54
But to sit there at the whole. Point of the game that's why we
35:58
literally play the game why did he strike out he he knows the
36:02
pressure he's a professional like shut up Susan go get me
36:05
another bag of Cheetos the. My, my, my point and why I get
36:12
so frustrated about this is that people, hey, no disrespect
36:16
people, people try to look at this through a vacuum where
36:19
they, they try to I, they, they boil this play down to just the
36:23
fact that a guy muffed APFP and they say, well, this is his
36:28
fault. Fire caught him, make him walk
36:32
home. No disrespect to anybody that we
36:34
may know that told him, told him that he should walk home.
36:37
I got what's funny. I get the I get the immediate
36:41
rage and frustration from Phillies fans.
36:43
However, there's so much more at play.
36:49
And if, and again, neither of us have played at that level, we
36:53
can hand up. We can acknowledge that.
36:55
Mexican League. Don't look up those stats.
36:59
They're not us. If you know, you know.
37:00
If you know, you know, but my point is, is if you have played
37:07
baseball and I've even had, I even had people, they were like,
37:10
yeah, I played softball and I can, I can, I can jive with what
37:13
you're saying. To your point, you mentioned the
37:16
internal clock, the the added pressure of the literal winning
37:22
run of the game that would send you home coming down the line.
37:27
And you pick them up there. Like there's so much at play
37:29
that that it's goes so far beyond just, well, who should
37:34
have thrown it to 1st, obviously.
37:38
Yeah. But that's in a perfect world.
37:41
There's more at play there that led him and I'm not I'm not like
37:45
I'm not defending. I'm not justifying it.
37:47
I'm not saying he made the right call.
37:49
It was a bone headed play. But to sit there and act like it
37:52
was just him going Oh, I booted the ball.
37:55
Oh, I looked up. Oh, I see JT Rio Muto.
37:58
He's he's pointing to first base, but I'm going to throw it
38:00
home anyway. Oh, I overthrow it.
38:02
Oh, our game's over. Oh, our season's over.
38:05
It's it's not, it's but people, people, people assume.
38:09
So we got a lot. I will say we got a lot of
38:12
people in the comments that have a lot of post season experience
38:17
on the resume. I was, I apologize, I was
38:20
unfamiliar with your All's game. I did not realize we had so many
38:23
people who have dealt with this kind of pressure and know how
38:26
easy it is. It it truly my apologies.
38:31
I'll, I'll say that we've watched games and in you, we're
38:40
all obsessed with the, with the player reaction, right?
38:44
We're all obsessed with like the, the players that hang in
38:46
the dugout after and watch the other team celebrate because
38:49
they're, they're a little bit of a sicko, which is cool.
38:52
I like sickos, but we see reactions after, hey, look, you
39:01
gave up a home run. Hey, look, you know,
39:05
game-winning double like what? Whatever, you know, stolen base.
39:08
Like there's other scenarios where you've seen where it's
39:12
like that's just kind of the game.
39:14
That's how the game unfolds sometimes and it didn't go our
39:17
way, right? And then you see stuff like this
39:22
where there's obviously an unforced error and it's just
39:25
like this kerfuffle of a moment, right?
39:31
Watch how the other teammates react around that that guy.
39:38
Because they know, like, Rob Thompson stopped him at the top
39:41
of the stairs before he went down, pat him on the chest,
39:46
spoke to him in his ear. He sat on the bench and another
39:48
teammate sitting next to him. And it's like, it's not just
39:53
this level of like, oh, yeah, his teammates care about it.
39:55
No, it's like there is this worst nightmare deep pit in our
40:02
stomach that that could happen to any of us as a player because
40:07
it has happened to all of us at some point on one level or
40:11
another. And it's the worst, most solo
40:15
feeling ever. And so when you watch his other
40:19
teammates around him, it's like, I know that's not you.
40:23
I know you make that play 9 times out of 10.
40:28
And I know what it's like to not make that play.
40:31
And I'm here to support you, man.
40:32
I'm here to like kind of throw my arm around you and make sure,
40:35
you know, like it. There's consoling when your team
40:40
loses. And it's a natural way where
40:42
it's in an unnatural way. You can tell that it's like that
40:47
moment just got the best of them.
40:49
And it's like that shows how big that moment is, shows that it's
40:54
just like sometimes that's the way stuff happens.
40:59
You can't just sit here and say that like he should.
41:01
It's not a video game. Like if if you lost that way in
41:06
a video game, a controller be through the screen and your
41:11
fatty is at home playing that like you're this.
41:13
It's not a real person with real heartbeat, real emotions, real
41:17
pressure. Like, it's just an insane moment
41:20
to expect that everything should be done perfectly, just not how
41:25
it goes. Philly fans hope, I hope, take
41:33
it easy on them. They did have a rough.
41:36
There's some. Vile human beings out there.
41:38
And I'm not, I'm not just like I'm not, I'm not.
41:40
I'm sure, I'm sure there's a a fraction of Phillies fans that
41:43
right now are just viewing the most vile.
41:49
Yeah. Content at this guy right now
41:52
online, but I'm just saying like generally I think.
41:55
There's there's just, I genuinely hope not vile people
41:59
when it comes to. Crap like this.
42:00
I definitely get the frustrations, trust me.
42:03
But like, yeah, that that level, that next step is crazy to me.
42:08
If you're pinning, if you're pinning the fact that you're
42:11
going home on Kurt Green, why don't we first start with Bryce
42:14
Harper? Like, where were you, buddy?
42:16
Let's get into. That a little bit.
42:17
Like there's where, where were you?
42:20
We did have a couple bobs from Schwarber.
42:22
One of them, my goodness, I don't believe that was just 453
42:28
feet. I think that was 700 feet.
42:31
I the ball that he hit in Game 3 was insane.
42:34
But there were superstars that did not show out, man.
42:38
They didn't show. Bryce, I love you, but what was
42:41
this? What was this?
42:44
And it was like a nonchalant effort, too.
42:47
It's just like you're in first gear.
42:49
That's what I'm saying. And like, and we we talk about
42:52
this, this World Series window for the Phillies and for me at
42:58
least my my humble opinion is that you're not as long as Bryce
43:04
is still in this, you know, elite category of, of production
43:08
that I think I believe he's still in.
43:10
Yeah, you are not going to be able to win a World Series if
43:16
you're the Phillies unless you have a fiery Bryce Harper giving
43:22
you that production. You're just not if you're going
43:27
to have this like nonchalant, you know, just happy to be here.
43:32
And I've made this comp before recently, but I, I stand by it
43:36
because I, I so like, I'm, I'm not AUFC guy, but I like
43:40
following the, the trajectory of Conor McGregor's career because
43:44
I like, I just, I just liked, OK, this guy, this guy can run
43:48
his mouth, but he can back it up.
43:49
But then he reached a point in his career, and I'm, I'm not
43:52
saying they're the same in that way, but he reached a point in
43:55
his career where it's like, OK, he's gotten to a point where
43:59
he's more than comfortable with just where he's at in his life,
44:03
his career, his earnings that you just don't see that hunger
44:07
there anymore. And I, I, I fear that we're
44:09
getting to that point with Bryce because I just did not see it
44:13
this year. Like you just did not see that
44:15
fire and you did not see the production.
44:18
And so like, I going back to my original point, if we're going
44:20
to, if, if, if Phillies fans are just general baseball fans are
44:24
going to pin this loss on Kirk Green for his his throw.
44:28
Like what maybe maybe back up first earlier in the game and
44:33
maybe let's ask some questions of like where the rest of the
44:35
lineup was was. What?
44:41
Year and look what while you're looking up whatever you're
44:43
looking up I just like I I I I need to drive this point home
44:47
because I've been called out for it is like oh like can't talk
44:52
about the dodgers no matter what they do this like this is this
44:57
is a very unique situation the way that the this series ended
45:01
it's like OK yes let like let's acknowledge I'm not I'm not
45:04
taking anything away from the dodgers they're the ones moving
45:06
on and we. Should be talking about them.
45:08
I'm just. Kidding.
45:11
We should be talking about the Dodgers.
45:13
They're they're the ones moving on.
45:15
But like, this is a very, very bizarre situation that ended
45:19
this series. And it just not to mention this
45:22
was the this was the number one seed.
45:24
You know what I mean? Like this was the team that got
45:26
the first round by this was a a World Series favorite by many,
45:30
many people, including myself. I think you did you pick them to
45:34
win it all. At the start of the postseason,
45:39
when. We did a bracket.
45:40
When we did that bracket, we burned our $20 up.
45:45
No, I think I actually had the guy had the socks and the
45:47
Brewers in in the World Series. Actually I had them losing in
45:51
the NLCS. Yeah.
45:54
Either way, I was just it, there's a lot of expectation.
45:57
What I was looking up was how many years were left for Mr.
46:03
Bryce on this contract and. I saw a TikTok today where it
46:08
was at the first slide. It was like a it was a a
46:11
carousel. The first slide was thanks,
46:15
you're fired and it was a picture of Rob Thompson.
46:17
And then the next slide was a picture of Bryce and it was like
46:19
if you didn't have a trade, a no trade clause, you'd be out of
46:21
here too. I'm like, what?
46:23
What are we doing? Calm.
46:25
Down. What are we doing?
46:28
Some people shouldn't have phone service I.
46:34
What is left in the contract? Six years I'm going to.
46:44
I'm going. To go as close, because it's 13
46:46
year deal, we're as close as the halfway point as we can be.
46:50
But it's the back half and it's the aging half and it's the half
46:55
that everybody who follows baseball would have expected him
47:00
to have a ring by now half and he doesn't.
47:06
And moving forward, I don't know what this team looks like
47:11
because they have to get younger and they have to get more
47:12
athletic. Yeah, it's not this.
47:14
This was it. It had.
47:15
It has to be. This.
47:18
Is not working. I I'm on the I'm on, I'm in the
47:23
camp. That Couch Rover needs to move
47:25
on. I don't think I think it would
47:27
be a mistake for them to bring him back.
47:29
I think the team needs, I think Bryce needs to be able to
47:32
utilize that DH spot. I think Castellanos, I know he
47:37
had a couple double s in this series that were big, but like,
47:43
I'm, I'm out on that. They need to get more athletic.
47:51
Trey Turner just snuck in and won a batting title.
47:55
Where was I? Did you pay attention?
47:57
Did You Know? That I I, I heard it.
47:59
But I I heard it. During the postseason, but I was
48:01
like, I had no idea. Wasn't on my radar, yeah.
48:06
But to your point about this team and how it's constructed,
48:09
we always say like all you got to do is get into the dance.
48:11
But there there's this active regression happening.
48:15
We like, we talk about all the time.
48:18
World Series in 2022 appearance, 2023 NLCS, 2024 DS, 2025 DS, and
48:29
then you'll lose it the way you did.
48:31
Like, it's just that you're not you're not going in the right
48:35
direction and you're you're only getting older.
48:40
Unless you had any other thoughts on Phyllis.
48:41
I feel like we got to move on. Last one, Realmuto, I think
48:46
probably. I think there's just moves it.
48:49
I don't know what their farm looks like.
48:51
This is the Dombrowski downfall. This is the Dave Dumb Dave
48:55
Dombrowski downfall. Triple D.
48:59
He's going to empty the tank. He's going to empty the bank.
49:04
Sometimes it gets you a ring, sometimes it doesn't.
49:06
And now we're at the end where it's like this don't look so
49:10
great because we don't have a ring.
49:12
I'll go to my grave defending Dave Dombrowski.
49:14
I think I love that approach. I'm not coming at him.
49:17
I think this is just the downfall of when you don't have
49:20
one right for sure. You know, so it looks good if
49:24
you if you get a ring, it looks good and you're like, you know
49:27
what hauled all the respect to the world of how you went
49:29
through it. You like you, you spent, you put
49:31
the chips in the middle of the table and that's what we
49:33
constantly ask for. But he did that and now it's
49:39
it's kind of it's full on panic mode of how they can try and
49:43
save this and salvage something out of this contract for Bryce,
49:49
specifically in the commitment to Trey Turner.
49:52
And they're starting rotation, which is still excellent even
49:55
with not having Wheeler moving forward for next year.
49:58
So I don't know about Wheeler next year, I don't know when
50:03
he's supposed to be back, but they they still are enough to
50:08
add some pieces. I don't think Schwarber, Rio
50:10
Muto and Castellano should be coming back.
50:12
It's just my opinion, moving on. Moving on, Tigers, Mariners,
50:25
this has been quite. I got this one right.
50:29
I think you did too. Right.
50:30
We say five games back and forth.
50:33
I think so, yeah. Yeah.
50:36
Good for us this. Has been a heck of a heck of a
50:40
series. And is this just me or the has
50:43
the DS lasted 6 weeks? Dude, I know I was literally
50:47
think I had this thought before, like as I was coming down the
50:51
stairs to my office down here, like to record and I'm going
50:57
what, how many episodes have we recorded that have related to
51:02
this division series? Like I don't remember ever
51:05
having to do this many. And and you know, it's probably
51:08
only been what like a a preview, a check in and now this.
51:16
But like, if we if we followed the division series, you know,
51:21
in a vacuum, we would still be having to do a recap, which I
51:24
don't even think we're, I mean, the, the CS starts on Sunday.
51:31
So like, I don't even think that we're going to have that.
51:33
But if we if we followed it, you know, like I said, in a vacuum,
51:36
we'd still have to do another, which would be like four or five
51:39
episodes for this thing. Yeah, I'm out.
51:41
I'm out on the division series. However, I'm not out on game
51:44
five between the Mariners and Tigers because this is going to
51:48
be, I mean, talk about talk about cinema, my friend.
51:53
The fact that this comes down to a Game 5 where you got to well,
51:58
I don't I don't have to, but you have the luxury of being able to
52:01
roll Terek Schuble out there. You know, you're kidding me.
52:06
And for those that are like, well, how did he fare against
52:08
the Mariners earlier in the year?
52:10
I mean, I get that I and I hear it and it's a valid point and
52:14
I'll take it. I'll take it under advisement,
52:17
but I feel like I would rather have Terek Schuble going for me
52:24
in game five then not regardless the opponent.
52:29
Yeah, just a thought. I mean, unless, unless, unless
52:39
this is unless we're talking like Garrett Cole going up
52:42
against the Red Sox pre Rafael Devers trade, then it's like
52:48
maybe history's not on your side here.
52:51
Maybe we go with, maybe we go with Carlos Rodon.
52:53
Like I maybe that that'd be a scenario.
52:56
Any other name, please? Goodyear just crumbled under
53:02
pressure. Louis.
53:04
Heel whoever was whoever was in the rotation pre Devers trade,
53:09
that could have been a viable option for you.
53:10
Anyway, I'll take my chances with scuba in game five and
53:17
we're heading back to see what did I say?
53:19
I said. Yeah, you're going to be at a
53:24
wedding. Yeah, we'll see.
53:27
Can you? Skip it.
53:30
Well, it's my brother's wedding, so.
53:33
Probably not. Maybe.
53:34
We'll see. We'll see.
53:37
Congrats, I got to go crazy. No, we're supposed to just miss
53:43
the bridesmaids first. I got to go.
53:45
I got to go. I'm a school, you're in IT
53:49
school. 'S coming out for the 8th like I
53:50
have to go yeah, I'm in it, yeah, I'm in it, yeah.
53:56
Dang, that's tough. But what did I say, though?
54:01
I said a game five at T-Mobile would go.
54:06
I believe the word I used was bonkers.
54:09
I agree we're just sounds so stupid saying T-Mobile.
54:13
Yeah, Safeco. Game five at Safeco would go
54:18
stupid. Yeah, game five at the King
54:22
Dome. Yeah, it's going to.
54:25
Be Griffey and the boys. It's going to be, it's going to
54:28
be sweet, man. It's going to be good stuff.
54:31
And it I'm, I'm kind of proud of the Tigers for putting up a
54:35
fight. I, I mean, I feel like everyone
54:37
just kind of sharpied in the Mariners and especially after
54:43
just the way the season ended for the Tigers.
54:46
And like it felt like they kind of stole it from Cleveland in a
54:52
way. They just somehow had to lead
54:54
every game in a no disrespect way.
54:56
I just, I don't know how they won.
54:59
I don't know how they're here going forcing a Game 5 like it's
55:03
they're kind of just hanging around.
55:08
The way I see it is they they they put to bed the collapse
55:17
narrative when they beat Cleveland to move on to the DS.
55:23
Yeah, I think they're buying them.
55:25
But then like, they put the narrative to bed, they put the
55:31
narrative in the bed, but then they turned out the lights
55:35
officially. By the door.
55:38
By making it to Game 5. Frankly, I don't even care.
55:40
I don't care what happens to Game 5 whether they win it or
55:43
not. I think getting to Game five in
55:47
the fashion that they've done it completely like you, we should
55:52
we should have, like I said, we should have forgotten about it
55:54
after the Cleveland thing anyway.
55:55
But for any like any still hanging around, yeah, any like
55:58
fringe opinions that are like, well, you know, they still could
56:02
get knocked. No, this is for pinions.
56:06
This is this has been impressive to watch.
56:11
And you know, I'll be the first to put my hand up and apologize
56:15
to the Tigers. I don't want them to win.
56:19
I, no, I think the Blue Jays would sweep them.
56:23
I I think it would. But would they though like
56:26
that's what they like? We're we're getting to that
56:28
point where it's like, OK, enough momentum has, I feel like
56:31
has built up both with the fact that they were able to get into
56:35
the dance. You're able to not Cleveland out
56:38
the team that put you in that position in the 1st place and
56:40
now you've pushed Seattle to Game 5.
56:44
If they, I'm just going to go ahead and say if they do win
56:47
game five, I would be very hesitant to just pencil in
56:51
Toronto. I really would, although what if
56:56
geographically though, what a fascinating match up by the way,
57:01
if that if that pans out, you realize how close Toronto and
57:05
Detroit are way closer than people might think.
57:08
I. Really struggle with the
57:10
northern part of the, the center of the country, the N center of
57:16
the country. It's a bit of a struggle for me.
57:19
I don't know. I mean, is, is Michigan and like
57:22
North Dakota pretty close? Detroit, I think they're pretty,
57:26
They're pretty close to each other, right?
57:30
I don't even know where Toronto is.
57:32
Dude, you can get to Toronto or, excuse me, to Detroit from or,
57:36
you know, vice versa in under 4 hours, in under 4 hour drive.
57:43
That's how close they are. I, I, I, I think Blue Jays fans
57:51
would travel and I don't think Comerica would be a.
57:57
Lot of logistics. Solely, solely the Tigers fans.
58:01
IA lot of passport logistics I. Want the Mariners.
58:05
I want the Mariners and Blue Jays.
58:06
That just feels like a good matchup.
58:08
No disrespect to the Tigers, I just no well that that rotation.
58:14
I'm going to disagree with you versus.
58:15
The Blue Jays lineup, I need that.
58:19
I want that. I would have agreed with you
58:22
before this series, but it's like they're they're just
58:25
continuing to show up and figure out ways to win.
58:28
And like I said, this momentum continues to build on itself.
58:31
If they cap this series with a game five win with Scubal on the
58:38
bump having LED you to that point, I'm not going to, I'm not
58:44
going to necessarily go out of my way to bet against the Tigers
58:47
at that point. I'm really not.
58:49
And he's not throwing again till game 3.
58:53
Clearly they've been able to figure it out otherwise.
58:58
Yeah, but I'm with. The whole different set
59:00
situation, seven games, best of seven, I should say.
59:04
That changes everything. I think we kind of forget that
59:06
every year. Do you like the structure?
59:11
I don't. I haven't asked you that in a
59:12
while. Do you like the 3577?
59:17
The if if like a timeline wasn't an issue because like obviously
59:21
like six or seven weeks of playoff baseball is kind of
59:27
insane. But like if that was not a part
59:30
of the equation. Do you like the structure of
59:32
this? I the the 5-7 sevens all I feel
59:38
like I've ever really known and I know, I know for the longest
59:42
time I was like, you can't have 162 come down to A1 game wild
59:46
card series. But the one game wild card
59:50
series looking back is so much better, so much better.
59:54
And I I I get why they did it. One more money, two, it it
1:00:02
builds in a little bit of a buffer.
1:00:03
You kind of have to prove it in a three-game versus A1 game.
1:00:06
You could just get lucky, but man.
1:00:10
A1 game wild card was I hated it, but I loved it.
1:00:15
Yeah. And maybe if 20/21 went
1:00:17
differently, I'd have a different thought on it.
1:00:19
But that was just a great baseball game.
1:00:22
I hated it. Just a great baseball game.
1:00:24
Any news? Yeah.
1:00:27
Shout out Javi Baez, shout out Riley Green.
1:00:32
Honestly, shout out Cal Raleigh. We've been shutting him out all
1:00:34
year. But dude showing up and it may
1:00:40
not be via the Homer every AB but he's he's putting back the
1:00:45
ball. Get on base, J Rod showed.
1:00:50
Up now he's he kind of went cold after he dropped the the looks
1:00:56
like he's figured it out quote. It's kind of gone cold.
1:01:02
That was one game. In fact, most of the lineup, I
1:01:04
think outside of Cal Raleigh and the JP Crawford kind of, kind of
1:01:15
been a little absent. Yeah, whoa.
1:01:21
JP Crawford in the 9 hole hitting three O 8 Cal Raleigh
1:01:25
hitting 438. See Bryce Superstars supposed to
1:01:32
hit. I hate that it came to me having
1:01:36
to to get on my boy Bryce, but it had to.
1:01:39
Like had to be done. I got to got to hold him
1:01:41
accountable, you know? Yeah, let's go, Mariners.
1:01:48
All done. Cubs.
1:01:51
Brewers, they burned. We haven't talked about them
1:02:00
yet. Oh, this is the last one.
1:02:04
This is. The longest series ever.
1:02:10
Two tickets have been punched, 2 have yet to be determined.
1:02:15
TDB. Feel like the Brewers are losing
1:02:18
momentum? Oh yeah.
1:02:23
Cubbies have started to get it going.
1:02:26
Yeah, I'd say so. This is a classic example of,
1:02:31
yeah, we're going back home for Game 5, but if it were up to us,
1:02:36
wouldn't want to have to do it. Don't feel great?
1:02:38
This way. Yeah, yeah.
1:02:42
Not responding. Sticks were not there tonight at
1:02:45
all. What are the final end up being?
1:02:48
Was it 6 O? Yeah, and they burn Freddy
1:02:54
Peralta. Oh, what a detrimental blow.
1:03:03
Not good, Pat, Not good. It's not Pat's fault.
1:03:07
It's not Pat's fault. I think that's the right.
1:03:09
It's Ian Hap's fault. Shout him out.
1:03:12
I think it's the right play to. Would you have pitched Freddie
1:03:15
saying like, hey, let's just get her done, Let's get out of here?
1:03:17
Yes, because you don't want to like save him for a game.
1:03:21
No, you don't want to like that. Just sends to me, at least, that
1:03:26
just sends the wrong message. When you're like, well, we'll
1:03:29
save them for game five. It's like, oh, so what's game 4
1:03:32
then? We just might.
1:03:34
Should we just pack our bags now?
1:03:35
Like, so? Yeah, go for it again. 4 They
1:03:41
did. They are.
1:03:42
They are packed. They're coming back home.
1:03:44
They're on a plane. They're on a plane as we speak.
1:03:48
Or one one could imagine. One could guess, One could.
1:03:53
Assume they're they're probably back in Milwaukee.
1:03:55
It's What's the distance between Chicago?
1:03:57
Back in Milwaukee, dude, the game just ended like less than
1:04:02
an hour ago. What's the distance?
1:04:04
You didn't answer my question. Over or under the distance
1:04:10
between Detroit and Toronto. Under for sure I'm.
1:04:14
Going to say over surprise, over surprise, over whack, lack of
1:04:20
geographical knowledge, I'm going to say.
1:04:22
Surprise way under way under. Dude, that's an hour and a half
1:04:26
drive. Shoot.
1:04:28
What did I say? I think it was like 345 from
1:04:31
Detroit to Toronto. Yeah, it's got to be pretty
1:04:33
nice. It's got to be pretty nice.
1:04:37
Be back in their own beds pretty soon.
1:04:40
And I can be sleeping. Well, I'm telling you, dude,
1:04:43
this is the the home field advantage only works.
1:04:48
You don't have your backs up against the wall.
1:04:50
And this just feels like a situation where the Brewers kind
1:04:53
of have their backs up against the wall.
1:04:56
It does, but it gets loud in there.
1:05:00
It does and it all it takes is a is a good a a quick start, punch
1:05:05
him in the mouth right right off the top.
1:05:08
Who goes for the Cubs? Matthew Boyd look great tonight,
1:05:10
by the way. Let's get credit where credit do
1:05:18
allergies, man, that isn't until Saturday.
1:05:23
It's it's an hour and a half away.
1:05:26
Just play tomorrow. Unbelievable.
1:05:32
No probables yet, according to ESPN.
1:05:37
Interested to see who. What's his face?
1:05:42
Priester maybe? We haven't seen him much.
1:05:47
They have him in the pen though. Fuck, I should.
1:05:50
Yeah, but I could see it. I could see it being a pen game.
1:05:56
I could see it is even healthy right is.
1:06:01
Even healthy right now. Yeah, Kyle Tucker woke up.
1:06:06
Yep. Sure did love that.
1:06:10
Yeah, Ian, have I? I mentioned his name.
1:06:13
I feel like, I feel like Ian Hap gets slept on man.
1:06:16
Big time slept on like he's up there with Rizzo and Chris
1:06:20
Bryant for me and I I just yeah, I know the same thing being
1:06:25
attached but like I. Yeah.
1:06:27
He's been around for a minute, I bet.
1:06:30
You'd be surprised how long he's been around.
1:06:35
But yeah, like I was saying. Eight years.
1:06:37
Like I was saying, dude almost had three jacks tonight.
1:06:41
Yeah, yeah, well, he had one. He had the three, three run
1:06:44
Homer in the first to to really get that place coming unglued.
1:06:48
But then like the next two ABS warning track 11 I think like
1:06:53
rode the Ivy in down into the glove.
1:06:57
You said eight years, nine years.
1:07:01
Oh, told you. There's your surprising over.
1:07:05
Yeah, it's a good call, Good call.
1:07:07
I had it in there. I just, it wasn't associated
1:07:09
with the right thing. Also, Carson Kelly, like I know
1:07:13
we talked about like how insane he was to start the year and
1:07:16
then he kind of just like came back down to earth a little bit.
1:07:23
Dude's good. Who had who?
1:07:25
I've I've already drawn a blank who had the Homer it because his
1:07:29
got called back but who had the Homer after that?
1:07:32
Kyle Tucker. No, there's another one.
1:07:36
I think it was after Tucker's. You're just making stuff.
1:07:42
Up dude, I'm literally not I I saw I saw him.
1:07:45
I can see him. I sent it.
1:07:50
Oh, it's Michael Bush, another guy that well, I've I've been
1:07:55
I've been singing his praises this year, but generally
1:07:58
speaking has been slept on. Yep, I'm excited, man.
1:08:05
We're going to have a couple couple game fives that I do not
1:08:12
feel are going to disappoint. It's time to buckle up.
1:08:18
Yeah, it's going to be good. Wow, They really kind of mapped
1:08:25
this thing out perfectly because the Sunday is the start of the
1:08:28
ALCS, but Monday's is the start of the NLCS and then game two of
1:08:32
the ALCS. You know, I'll figure it out
1:08:37
sometimes. That game tomorrow, 58 Eastern,
1:08:42
I'll be there. I might be in the clear man.
1:08:45
Might be in the clear. When's that wedding starting?
1:08:47
Things are 4. You're good.
1:08:50
I'm so. Good.
1:08:51
At that point, I think it's socially acceptable to put it on
1:08:54
your phone. Oh yeah, yeah.
1:08:57
I mean I may have been man I help breakdown break stuff down
1:09:01
but like. Kind of sweating on the dance
1:09:03
floor a little bit. 4 hours. How long is is this?
1:09:07
Is this like a? It's a smaller wedding.
1:09:10
Yeah, it's very possible. I'm I'd be in the clip.
1:09:13
Not that I'm like rooting for it to be done faster, but I'm just
1:09:16
I'm I'm thinking through it. Yeah, well, I mean no
1:09:19
disrespect. I don't see Michael as being
1:09:22
monster. Much of A dancer, no.
1:09:25
That's what I'm saying. Like that's that's what I'm
1:09:28
that's, that's a factor, that's a play here.
1:09:30
Then I'm like, OK, I might be, might be all right for this Game
1:09:32
5. He, he might be ready to go at
1:09:35
that point. He might be like, let's let's
1:09:37
pack this thing up. Let's hop in the car and get out
1:09:39
of here. Yeah, we'll see.
1:09:42
Yeah, we shall see. Who you got?
1:09:50
Don't do this to me which I I. Want Brew Crew?
1:09:56
Yeah, yeah. Casseroles.
1:09:58
Blue collar, Calloused, calloused fingers, Hands.
1:10:02
Yep, because that's that's all we know about Midwesterners.
1:10:07
That's I just imagine the whole city works in a factory with an
1:10:13
assembly line like. What do you think happens it
1:10:16
like it if Milwaukee were to win a World Series?
1:10:20
Like in your mind, do you just envision like everybody making a
1:10:23
casserole and like walking to the end of their driveway and
1:10:26
like sharing recipes? Like, is that is that how you
1:10:29
envision Milwaukee celebrating the championship?
1:10:32
Yeah, like people are like drinking milk.
1:10:34
And there's just like, you know, those like small town, like
1:10:38
sharing the July parades. That's what it's going to be
1:10:41
like. Just popping, popping chairs,
1:10:45
sitting down. Yeah, just having the casserole
1:10:48
tray in front of them with a big serving spoon, but just for
1:10:50
themselves. Yes, yeah, that's what Milwaukee
1:10:55
is. That's what we're rooting for
1:10:57
when we say we want Milwaukee to to.
1:10:59
Take. And they're like, yeah, they're
1:11:01
like you. I just caught this fish.
1:11:03
I'm going to cook it up for the parade.
1:11:09
And they're like what it is. Let me let me help you there.
1:11:12
Yeah, 100%. Yeah, you got you got extra
1:11:16
gravy. Yes, always.
1:11:19
I have extra gravy. This is an extra gravy household
1:11:23
that's look. Oh.
1:11:25
Let me take some of that gravy off your hands.
1:11:27
Yeah. Oh, I I was about to take your
1:11:30
parking spot. It's yours.
1:11:32
You keep it. Yeah.
1:11:36
Good people, good people out there.
1:11:39
Wait, is that Minnesota? Am I getting?
1:11:41
Am I getting a mixed? It's a little.
1:11:42
You got a little Minnesota in there.
1:11:44
You got a little Minnesota in there, but.
1:11:46
That's fair, yeah. Not to lump all Midwesterners
1:11:50
together, but. Kinda.
1:11:54
Like East Coast bias is kind of unfolding.
1:11:56
My in laws are from Minnesota and that's pretty accurate.
1:12:01
Yeah, everything I know about Midwesterners in Minnesota, I
1:12:03
learned from How I Met your mother.
1:12:05
So. Tough, yeah.
1:12:09
They. Are all Vikings fans?
1:12:11
That's 100%. That's how they do it.
1:12:14
That's. 100% accurate. A lot of.
1:12:16
Tim horton's. And hey, don't sleep on Tim
1:12:20
horton's, all right? We got to get out of here.
1:12:22
You asked for the Blue Jays talk.
1:12:24
You asked who I'm pulling for what?
1:12:26
I didn't say anything but the Blue Jays.
1:12:28
You said Tim Horton's. They have.
1:12:30
There's American Tim Horton's. I'm out on those.
1:12:34
Sure, yeah, I agree. I'm just saying they do exist.
1:12:38
That's like the McDonald's in China, like you're serving
1:12:42
squid. That's This is not McDonald's.
1:12:44
Well, I think it's, I think McDonald's elsewhere is a lot
1:12:47
healthier for you. But I'm, I'm with you.
1:12:49
I'm. Neither here nor.
1:12:50
They're saying that's not a part of the.
1:12:52
That's not a part of the discussion.
1:12:54
You asked me who I'm pulling for.
1:12:56
Yeah, everything I feel. Like Brew Crew?
1:13:00
I'm not happy with the Brew Crew right now, but I'm I'm not still
1:13:04
going to pull with the pull. I'm still going to pull for him.
1:13:06
We play 5 for a reason. Look.
1:13:11
I said this, I said a while ago is going to be my last statement
1:13:15
about the Yankees, but I have one more statement and it's pro
1:13:19
Blue Jay and it's pro It's pro Blue Jay,
1:13:35
pro Brewer, pro brew, pro Blue Jay, pro Brewer in the in the
1:13:42
angle that this is good baseball, This is proof this is
1:13:50
I think this is going to help cleanse our game in a way.
1:13:53
If those teams can continue to move forward and prove that
1:13:57
analytics aren't the end all be all and that they can just play
1:14:03
good baseball. The Brewers and the Blue Jays
1:14:07
have an anti analytic, anti 2025 style baseball to them and I
1:14:16
think if they keep moving forward, I think it helps
1:14:18
cleanse these teams and I think that the the Yankees were taught
1:14:22
a lesson and I. There it is.
1:14:24
OK, I was wondering where the where you're connecting the
1:14:27
dots? Here, But that's what I think.
1:14:28
There's a lesson that's being taught and I hope that there's
1:14:31
these teams specifically in the postseason this year are being
1:14:35
taught that lesson. And I don't know if I can sit
1:14:38
here and speak the same way about the Tigers or the OR the
1:14:43
Mariners and how they operate. The Mariners feel a little that
1:14:47
way. They just have really good
1:14:49
pitching. But it is this aspect of like I
1:14:54
let's just watch good baseball, man.
1:14:57
Let's put put bad on ball, run fast, take advantage, play good
1:15:05
defense, Just play the game. We grew up watching Go Brewers.
1:15:16
Let's go Brewers and I'm going to say Mariners.
1:15:23
However, I'm going to, I'm going to give a lot of weight to to a
1:15:30
Tiger's pick, a lot of consideration to a Tiger's pick
1:15:34
if they figure out a way to pull this off in the ALCS.
1:15:38
I'm I'm going to give consideration to an ALCS Tiger's
1:15:41
pick if they figure out a way to pull this off.
1:15:44
So I'm trying to say. I'm all I, I don't, I don't
1:15:50
really care what happens on the outside anymore.
1:15:53
I want the Mariners to win because I think the match up
1:15:56
between them and the Blue Jays would be better, but I am full
1:16:01
on Brew Crew. I'm with you.
1:16:03
I think the Mariners Blue Jays series would be better
1:16:08
objectively, but I I'm telling you, we're getting dangerously
1:16:13
close. I I haven't assigned the team of
1:16:15
destiny thing yet, but we're getting close to the tigers just
1:16:18
being a team that figures out ways to win defies all logic.
1:16:23
If they can, like I said, if they figure out a way to win
1:16:25
Game 5, what's the? Deadline to assigning that, by
1:16:28
the way. It doesn't.
1:16:31
It doesn't always have to be assigned.
1:16:32
We may, we may just go through this postseason and then not
1:16:35
really be the case actually. OK, you know what?
1:16:40
I don't love that. Fair.
1:16:41
It's a fairpoint. That's a fairpoint.
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Well, I said I stand by what I said.
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There doesn't always have to be a team of destiny.
1:16:48
If the Tigers win Game 5. If Tigers win Game five, that's.
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Team of Destiny. That's my team of destiny.
1:16:53
But you can't there's there's no other pick that satisfies those
1:16:58
conditions. I mean, look at the track, look
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at the path that they took to get here.
1:17:02
Not even the pocket pancakes get you.
1:17:06
No, we just talked last episode about the fact that the Brewers
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just good. They're like, so good they've
1:17:13
been. Good all year, but that's what
1:17:15
I'm you could argue that the Destiny has gone back a while.
1:17:19
It did for the Nationals. I mean, I guess.
1:17:22
Right, we can. Retroactive Destiny.
1:17:26
No, the no, the Brewers have literally been good from the
1:17:30
jump. The Nationals, What was it?
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What was that? They they?
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Lost the They got swept by the Yankees.
1:17:37
We're a perseason team. That was the Torpedo Bat stuff
1:17:41
and. They, oh, I was, I was listening
1:17:44
to Milwaukee radio often after that.
1:17:47
Series, no doubt. They were like, we're done,
1:17:51
might as well. Get the cheese heads out.
1:17:53
We're focused on the Packers. That's rational.
1:17:56
That's what happened. And then what was the what was
1:17:59
the Nationals? It was like night.
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Was it, what was the the record that everybody talked about?
1:18:04
Was it 19 and 32 or something like that?
1:18:07
They had played like 50 games. Same thing.
1:18:11
Brewers been goods from the jump.
1:18:13
That's all I'm going to say. All right, it's time to get out
1:18:16
of here. Yeah.
1:18:18
I got to go to bed. It's literally one in the
1:18:19
morning. Hello.
1:18:22
We'll see you guys after the CS has started.
1:18:27
Yeah, we'll have to just, I'm going to have to text you, get
1:18:30
your picks so I can put the graphic out because we're
1:18:32
there's no way we're doing a pod.
1:18:34
On a wedding. Saturday night, I mean, maybe,
1:18:38
who knows, Maybe we'll get weird.
1:18:39
Oh, real quick, though, Speaking of CS, we are.
1:18:44
We're finally in Seattle. We we are going to be live
1:18:53
streaming. Yes, we're.
1:18:57
Going to be live streaming. We got to pick a day.
1:18:58
It took us a minute, took us a minute, but we're going to be
1:19:01
live streaming at some point during, during the, the CS.
1:19:04
We'll we'll figure it out. We'll put it out there.
1:19:07
Yeah. We'll just be watching ball
1:19:09
hanging out, so come hang out with hang out with us.
1:19:12
Roll right into a pod up. Maybe.
1:19:16
Maybe. Maybe not.
1:19:20
See you in Seattle. Nope.
1:19:26
Let's go, Brewers. Yes.
1:19:29
Favorite casserole? Broccoli cheese, Chicken.
1:19:34
Oh, so glad you didn't say green bean.
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I was. I was.
1:19:38
I'll leave it, it's just it's not my favorite.
1:19:40
Not my favorite. Super overrated.
1:19:44
Super overrated. You want to just hang out for
1:19:47
another like half hour and just talk casseroles?
1:19:49
You get in on that a little bit. Yeah, I, I.
1:19:53
No, we're not doing this. We're not doing this.
1:19:56
Chicken, broccoli and rice. And then there's like.
1:19:59
A Oh yeah, sorry, throw rice into mine, whatever.
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I. Say, yeah, the rice in there and
1:20:03
then like like a cream of like a cream of mushroom and saucy, put
1:20:09
that sucker in there for 45 minutes.
1:20:12
Yeah. That's it.
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That's all you got to do. That's it baby, you can eat for
1:20:18
a week. What happened to us?
1:20:21
Where did the casseroles go? What happened to this country?
1:20:25
We need more casseroles. Milwaukee the The look the
1:20:30
casseroles fall solely on your shoulders.
1:20:34
The future of casseroles fall solely on your shoulders.
1:20:37
Yeah, let's go Brewers. Don't go chasing.
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Go balls, love. You and as always, looking
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forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
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Until next time, stay filthy.