Latest / Bussin' With The Boys / Best of the Bus: Nickmercs Opens Up About Streaming Journey, Getting Banned From Twitch, & Dr. Disrespect
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Over here. We got him here perfect timing, perfect, You're
- 0:04Speaker 1: just worth three minutes into our intro, get on introducing
- 0:08Speaker 1: Nick Merks.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Comeing, what's up, brother, Get in here.
- 0:15Speaker 1: We got you a seat.
- 0:18Speaker 3: I was hoping to come. Come. I was telling you
- 0:24Speaker 3: will Yeah, that's what we were just.
- 0:35Speaker 2: One taking note for an answer, got twisted?
- 0:42Speaker 3: What are we man?
- 0:43Speaker 4: Living?
- 0:44Speaker 3: Live and listen?
- 0:46Speaker 2: Give me one second to re collect my thoughts. I'm
- 0:49Speaker 2: high on a lucy right now. Let me get dialed in.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Like I was saying, he came at a perfect time.
- 0:58Speaker 1: We're breaking down Michigan.
- 1:00Speaker 2: So so when you win, when you win so much,
- 1:06Speaker 2: the world gets used to you winning the regular season.
- 1:09Speaker 2: People feel it all the time. My another Michigan Saturday
- 1:11Speaker 2: mission's gonna win all Misian's away.
- 1:13Speaker 3: They're gonna win with that.
- 1:15Speaker 2: You stop, you stop knowing that feeling with losses, you
- 1:18Speaker 2: stop understanding why you play the game. Because you win
- 1:20Speaker 2: all the time. What makes the win so great anybody
- 1:23Speaker 2: the losses, because when you know what it's like to lose,
- 1:26Speaker 2: the winning, the feeling that Will Compton has right now,
- 1:30Speaker 2: it wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for the last
- 1:32Speaker 2: ten years of his life. If it has stopped over everybody.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Every single day being Colorado fifty billion to zero, it'd
- 1:39Speaker 2: be like, yep, another day at the office. But because
- 1:41Speaker 2: Will's done the trials and tribulations, he understands these boy,
- 1:46Speaker 2: you only get so many opportunities every fall, and you
- 1:48Speaker 2: got to make the most of them. Now your team's
- 1:49Speaker 2: sitting at two and zero and you guys are in
- 1:51Speaker 2: the top twenty five. That's incredible. Now, Michigan losing is
- 1:59Speaker 2: the best teacher you can have. It's the best teacher
- 2:02Speaker 2: because now when we get back to winning, it's gonna
- 2:05Speaker 2: make it that much more of a better feeling. You're
- 2:07Speaker 2: gonna walk in those saturdays because I guarantee you them
- 2:11Speaker 2: boys when they when they won last couple of years,
- 2:13Speaker 2: it's kind of like, yeah, we knew we were gonna win.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Of course, we knew we're gonna win. Blake Korn, he's
- 2:17Speaker 2: been eating corn his whole life. That those types of time,
- 2:20Speaker 2: that kind of arrogance that you get, that's a teacher.
- 2:23Speaker 1: In hype video for Michigan that was a tough and
- 2:27Speaker 1: said you couldn't motivate me to get out of bed bro.
- 2:29Speaker 3: That was a tough one.
- 2:29Speaker 2: I hope the Boys pull it up a little bit
- 2:31Speaker 2: because it was you'd have some fluctuation in your.
- 2:33Speaker 3: Voice when you do it.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Do I think Michigan's dead?
- 2:35Speaker 3: No?
- 2:35Speaker 2: Are we as good as we were last year?
- 2:37Speaker 3: No?
- 2:37Speaker 2: But guess what. That's what happens when you leave your loser,
- 2:40Speaker 2: uh head coach, your DC, your DB's coach, your wide
- 2:43Speaker 2: receiver coach, your head stringth coach, and eighteen players to
- 2:46Speaker 2: the draft. You're gonna have a step take a little
- 2:48Speaker 2: step back now, Sharon Morris, he's the right guy to
- 2:51Speaker 2: have in there. You're gonna keep that boat motoring. You
- 2:53Speaker 2: got five new offense linemen. They're gonna continue to gel.
- 2:55Speaker 2: They didn't have the best game, but I will say this,
- 2:57Speaker 2: I thought protection was pretty good. And if Colston Loveland
- 3:01Speaker 2: hit catches that ball and stride that Warren missed him
- 3:05Speaker 2: on in the second quarter, might be talking about a
- 3:07Speaker 2: whole different game. We might be talking about a long
- 3:09Speaker 2: horn loss. That's what we might be talking about.
- 3:12Speaker 5: Now.
- 3:13Speaker 2: He's going horseshoes and hand grenades right close. Doesn't cut
- 3:16Speaker 2: it in the game of football. It doesn't fucking cut it.
- 3:19Speaker 2: So we're just going to keep on moving forward. We
- 3:21Speaker 2: got our Kansas state coming up this week at home.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Thank God love you called it ar Kansas because that's
- 3:27Speaker 2: what it is.
- 3:27Speaker 3: That's what it is.
- 3:28Speaker 2: That's what it is. Is it Kansas? Yes, at ar
- 3:31Speaker 2: ar Kansas. Boom will play them. They're twenty eight and
- 3:34Speaker 2: a half point favorites. I don't know if we're covering that,
- 3:37Speaker 2: but I know that Dub's coming. I don't know if
- 3:39Speaker 2: we're going to cover that, but the Bully's going to
- 3:41Speaker 2: continue to gel. They need to continue to gel. Here's
- 3:44Speaker 2: what I'll say about the trip. So we were just
- 3:46Speaker 2: breaking down our trip.
- 3:47Speaker 3: Yeah, right, we were able to. We were able to.
- 3:51Speaker 2: We were able to fly private from from National. Flex
- 3:56Speaker 2: is necessary because it's it's it's only a flex. If
- 3:58Speaker 2: you're not, you don't have gratituy behind it. And it
- 4:00Speaker 2: was an epic and epic twenty seven hours go from
- 4:03Speaker 2: Nashville to an arbor and arboral Lincoln, next morning, Lincoln.
- 4:06Speaker 3: In to National things. That's what I want to interjeg.
- 4:10Speaker 3: But he's cooking right now, so you're thinking let him him.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Thinking to myself, like do I post about the private jet?
- 4:17Speaker 1: And then and then quickly I was like fuck, yes
- 4:19Speaker 1: you do. Like we don't do this everywhere. When we're
- 4:21Speaker 1: eating wings from mister Spots on the jet Lincoln, I'm
- 4:25Speaker 1: had that thought process. We had ice cream waiting for
- 4:28Speaker 1: emotional ice cream. Emotional you really needed that.
- 4:31Speaker 2: We're flying back. He's like, hey, the drivers asked if
- 4:33Speaker 2: we could put think about ice cream caramel sprinkle. Get
- 4:39Speaker 2: right my feelings the entire because it is like people
- 4:43Speaker 2: do get weird about the whole posting about a private jet.
- 4:46Speaker 2: If you get on a private jet, it's an experience.
- 4:49Speaker 2: It's an experience, and what we want social media to
- 4:51Speaker 2: not show experiences all of a sudden.
- 4:53Speaker 3: That's the line you got.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Of influences that would go and just runt a space
- 4:57Speaker 1: that looked like a private jet, would flex about it. Yeah,
- 4:59Speaker 1: people were all to that.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Right, Oh that's the thing.
- 5:01Speaker 1: I think you.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Did it a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, real holy
- 5:06Speaker 3: feld pops. Yeah, remember we used to we would do
- 5:09Speaker 3: the PJ to the helicopter. Yes, sir, who's's weird type ship?
- 5:15Speaker 3: The bang? The bang PJ to.
- 5:16Speaker 2: A helicopter is a weird transition. You're just helicopter to
- 5:18Speaker 2: p J.
- 5:19Speaker 3: What were you doing? Went from the went from the
- 5:20Speaker 3: big island to like the big island to the little islands.
- 5:23Speaker 4: You get it.
- 5:24Speaker 3: Dang, dang, dang, you know, and then you're on the beach.
- 5:29Speaker 2: What the islands are we talking about here?
- 5:31Speaker 1: Billionaire's playgrounds?
- 5:33Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I heard about there. I had a weird
- 5:36Speaker 3: thing about aviation.
- 5:37Speaker 2: I know that little landing strip when you kind of
- 5:39Speaker 2: go down.
- 5:39Speaker 3: It was dangerous. You're gonna go right, and then you
- 5:41Speaker 3: just duck in.
- 5:42Speaker 2: You're like, oh, okay, it's good, cool twin prop going in.
- 5:46Speaker 3: It's worth it. Yeah. All the food, yeah, it is
- 5:48Speaker 3: worth it.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Do you have mister spots wings?
- 5:50Speaker 3: There no.
- 5:53Speaker 4: Wings?
- 5:54Speaker 3: Billionaire chicken. Wing's gotta be asked. There's no way billions.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Everything's good. That's good. I'm happy you took your boys
- 6:01Speaker 3: in the PJ.
- 6:01Speaker 4: Man.
- 6:02Speaker 3: That experience had to be fucking nuts, man, And at
- 6:05Speaker 3: least we ended the day on it on a high, because, dude,
- 6:08Speaker 3: if both teams would have lost, don't ever get out
- 6:10Speaker 3: of PJ.
- 6:11Speaker 2: No, no, back at the plane on the way home,
- 6:14Speaker 2: commercial commercial. We might even walk back.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Well, crazy man, how are you feeling about what you
- 6:19Speaker 1: saw from Michigan?
- 6:20Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm popping down. Hold man, Yeah, Pops
- 6:22Speaker 3: is down. Horrible it's all bad. Is that the peak?
- 6:25Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a big Michigan guy to
- 6:30Speaker 1: coach man coach, oh yeah yeah, get the like yeah yeah.
- 6:34Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about watching the Michigan Wolverines
- 6:37Speaker 1: and secular because I feel you guys lost a lot
- 6:39Speaker 1: on they look back. Georgia they had fifteen draft in
- 6:43Speaker 1: twenty twenty two before they repeated in twenty three. So
- 6:46Speaker 1: the it's like the fall from being on top of
- 6:49Speaker 1: the world. It just feels like that's not an outfiture.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Happy about putting alcohold up.
- 6:54Speaker 3: To a be autimistic on the podcast. You got to
- 6:57Speaker 3: be real keeping no.
- 6:57Speaker 2: No, but before you keep it real, before you keep
- 7:00Speaker 2: it real, understand this. Georgia Alabama, those teams get five
- 7:03Speaker 2: stars every single day. We are three, We get the
- 7:06Speaker 2: three stars and the four stars and a sneak couple
- 7:08Speaker 2: five from down south, and then we developed those cats.
- 7:11Speaker 2: So the drop off.
- 7:14Speaker 6: Over here, and you know, we're used to seeing Corum
- 7:18Speaker 6: and and and and and.
- 7:21Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, all of them.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Man.
- 7:23Speaker 6: You know, even on the defense sand we're still and
- 7:24Speaker 6: all these guys make their plays and then and then
- 7:26Speaker 6: they're not there this year and the smallest, and it's
- 7:31Speaker 6: just we're not used to that.
- 7:32Speaker 1: It's how are you feeling on Saturday? Because if you're
- 7:36Speaker 1: holding a lot in right now, I gotta here, I
- 7:38Speaker 1: gotta feel. This is a pod where you feel your emotion.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Actually, I actually actually kind of left for a while
- 7:43Speaker 4: and walked around.
- 7:45Speaker 3: He gets a little sad. You know, well, we get beating
- 7:48Speaker 3: up for bro. Look, hey man, you gotta you gotta
- 7:50Speaker 3: live off that championship. They don't come around often. Come
- 7:53Speaker 3: on championship. We're still the fucking reigning defending champions. Eat
- 7:56Speaker 3: a dick, bro, you know what I mean. Sorry I'm saying.
- 8:00Speaker 3: You know, they can know they want right until until
- 8:02Speaker 3: there's a new champion. It's it's us.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Yeah, that's who listened to the port Noy video and
- 8:07Speaker 1: he's like, he's right, we are defending man.
- 8:10Speaker 3: By the way, what are you? How what's it? Are you?
- 8:13Speaker 3: And him? Like? You guys are cool?
- 8:14Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?
- 8:15Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about that ship too, man, Okay, I
- 8:18Speaker 3: talked about it. Well, sometimes sometimes I feel like he
- 8:21Speaker 3: he loves you, but he hates you. That's sure. Yeah,
- 8:23Speaker 3: it's like a weird thing.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Just love language, loves to be mean. Okay, he loves
- 8:28Speaker 1: to try to get under your skin. He likes to
- 8:29Speaker 1: get you going, get you active.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave openly gets on this guy. Yeah, well he does.
- 8:36Speaker 3: He gets on.
- 8:37Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's like the easiest card to
- 8:40Speaker 1: pull when something happens. You just gotta eat. You're not
- 8:45Speaker 1: gonna make every point.
- 8:46Speaker 3: What a rock.
- 8:48Speaker 2: What a rocky say? It's not about how hard you
- 8:50Speaker 2: can hit. It's about hard you can get hit and
- 8:53Speaker 2: keep moving forward to that. That's what it's like when
- 8:54Speaker 2: you're for like cringey, like cringe.
- 8:58Speaker 3: It's a cringey. It's too early in the pipe. By
- 9:00Speaker 3: the way. You know what I love about this pod?
- 9:01Speaker 3: When you move, I feel you move, man.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's just the vibrations that we're really in it.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we're actually in the Yeah, Like if you.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Get I'm gonna feel it, you know, right on.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a tough game. It was a tough
- 9:18Speaker 2: game on Saturday. It was a tough game Saturday at noon.
- 9:22Speaker 3: Boys didn't look good.
- 9:23Speaker 2: There's not there's not a whole lot of ho to
- 9:26Speaker 2: hang our hat on. As far as like we can
- 9:27Speaker 2: get excited because of X Y and Z. Kicker got
- 9:29Speaker 2: a good kicker. We got a damn good kicker, right.
- 9:32Speaker 2: I don't think anybody in the nation's best with our kicker.
- 9:34Speaker 3: But you gotta stop man.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Half quarterack right now, here's my here's my number.
- 9:39Speaker 3: To lose half the games this year? What are you doing?
- 9:42Speaker 3: I'm just being real.
- 9:43Speaker 2: You can't go with this whole war then national champions
- 9:45Speaker 2: until it.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Was a great year. But but if we're looking at
- 9:48Speaker 3: this one, man, we we can't score points. Can't score points.
- 9:52Speaker 3: That quarterback is not ready yet. The offensive line is
- 9:54Speaker 3: not ready yet. Yeah, they'll gel throughout the year. But
- 9:56Speaker 3: we're gonna lose to the Ohio State. We're gonna lose
- 9:58Speaker 3: the m s U. We're gonna lose the and Stay.
- 10:00Speaker 3: We're gonna lose the Oregon, Illinois. We might even lose Illinois.
- 10:05Speaker 3: We're gonna lose. That is the most ridiculous thing I've
- 10:08Speaker 3: ever back to this pot Look. Part of being fans,
- 10:11Speaker 3: you gotta be real, man, just expect expected to be bad.
- 10:14Speaker 3: That was really bad.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Every week you got to go in thinking you're gonna win.
- 10:18Speaker 2: As a fan, here's the problem. Michigan fans are like
- 10:21Speaker 2: you because when we we had to leave the game
- 10:23Speaker 2: earlier We knew that going into it. So in the
- 10:25Speaker 2: third quarter we did leave, and as we're leaving, traffic's
- 10:28Speaker 2: beatifictly we had to make the we had to make
- 10:31Speaker 2: that was already it was already.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Taylor. Taylor wanted to Taylor wanted to stay the entire time,
- 10:38Speaker 1: and even leading up to say, hey, we gotta get
- 10:41Speaker 1: time out to give Taylor, give Taylor credit this the
- 10:47Speaker 1: entire At first, like a couple of months ago, it
- 10:49Speaker 1: was gonna be all Nebraska that day, like that was
- 10:51Speaker 1: the game. We're gonna go to Nebraska. Then we were
- 10:53Speaker 1: gonna go to the walls. It was just hanging in
- 10:54Speaker 1: front of Michigan USC. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna go to
- 10:58Speaker 1: Michigan USC and split it up. But once we combined them,
- 11:00Speaker 1: it was like, hey, the priority was always Nebraska on
- 11:03Speaker 1: week two in Colorado. So when we snuck that in
- 11:06Speaker 1: and figured out how to do it, he wanted to
- 11:08Speaker 1: stay the whole game, and I was like, Bro, we cannot.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to be positive here today, bro,
- 11:14Speaker 3: Nebraska kind of looks they look good. They kind of
- 11:16Speaker 3: looked good. They look good, they look good, and.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Here's they got it all, man.
- 11:20Speaker 3: They got they got a good defense. You know you
- 11:22Speaker 3: had them people fired up. Man fired up, Bro, they
- 11:25Speaker 3: were fired up. You saw a little bit. Oh my
- 11:27Speaker 3: stands are going nuts, Bro.
- 11:28Speaker 2: I need to feel you.
- 11:33Speaker 3: The stadium of the Go Big Red.
- 11:35Speaker 1: It was truly like one of the greatest feelings in
- 11:37Speaker 1: my life.
- 11:38Speaker 3: Yeah, because we all Husker.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Fans just laid on the line and like Taylor saying
- 11:44Speaker 1: earlier for the last decade, like this place wants something,
- 11:48Speaker 1: a good product to root for it. And it seems
- 11:50Speaker 1: like the culture that coach rules building and just the
- 11:54Speaker 1: engagement that they had from the first quarter through the
- 11:56Speaker 1: fourth quarter, like the songs they're playing, the stuff they're putting,
- 12:00Speaker 1: like even the little Hamster in the fourth quarter.
- 12:02Speaker 3: To keep everybody in game. The Hampster.
- 12:03Speaker 1: So everybody just dialed in. Like the optimism and the
- 12:07Speaker 1: juice right now in the city is real cusser fans
- 12:10Speaker 1: all over the country, and you know that's what everybody's
- 12:12Speaker 1: fired up about. Like, yes, we're two and oh we're
- 12:15Speaker 1: all we got got our chest out, we're smiling, we're
- 12:17Speaker 1: feeling good. But it's like more than that, it's like
- 12:20Speaker 1: we've been down for a minute and we know that
- 12:23Speaker 1: we have a brand that you can root for and
- 12:25Speaker 1: believe in if you just get the right guys, the
- 12:26Speaker 1: right coach, the right players, and like that's building up.
- 12:30Speaker 1: So there's a lot more pride outside of just being
- 12:32Speaker 1: to No, it's just that you're feeling it all come
- 12:34Speaker 1: together for real.
- 12:36Speaker 2: There's a couple of passes in the game where Rayla
- 12:40Speaker 2: kind of missed the guy or the dude dropped it.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Anything Rayla did, you could just hear it with me
- 12:45Speaker 2: and Will kind of joking about it, but also everyone
- 12:47Speaker 2: around like, man, he's just got it. One of his
- 12:49Speaker 2: office he ran up and help was like see team
- 12:52Speaker 2: guy as halftime, like guys are running in rails walking.
- 12:57Speaker 2: He looks at he was saying, hey, stay here a
- 13:00Speaker 2: year As he's walking, it's just like kids walking up.
- 13:02Speaker 3: Kids, a freshman talking with him and the coach. He
- 13:06Speaker 3: wanted to go for it and the coach is like, no,
- 13:07Speaker 3: come on, go for it. Coach like get go over here,
- 13:10Speaker 3: and then he has calm down, calm down. The kid
- 13:12Speaker 3: wanted to go for it. Man, it was like I
- 13:15Speaker 3: forgot how much they needed ready to go.
- 13:17Speaker 2: He's he's getting dangerous towards like kind of creepy with
- 13:22Speaker 2: his Patrick Mahome stuff though, yeah, yes, yes, but even
- 13:26Speaker 2: the pregames. Have you seen the clip of him, him
- 13:29Speaker 2: and Mahomes right next to each other and Mahomes is
- 13:31Speaker 2: doing his.
- 13:32Speaker 3: He's right, he's right, and he does this.
- 13:34Speaker 2: It's the same thing, and it's the same dress.
- 13:36Speaker 3: He's inspired, he's inspired, he's inspired.
- 13:39Speaker 2: If he does this, if he does this, he's gonna
- 13:41Speaker 2: end up in a Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant situation where
- 13:43Speaker 2: he can never be the goat now because he basically
- 13:47Speaker 2: did the same thing. What watch his clip. That's Patrick
- 13:53Speaker 2: Mahomes the same number, same number.
- 13:56Speaker 3: God, that makes it now.
- 13:57Speaker 2: The kids, the kids are stuff.
- 13:59Speaker 3: Star man are no question, no question. You had you
- 14:02Speaker 3: had your poster and your quarterback in the league right
- 14:05Speaker 3: now right.
- 14:06Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's he's the baby guilt right now, at
- 14:08Speaker 2: his stage of his career.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Only one Tom, Yeah, well right now in the league,
- 14:13Speaker 3: right now, in this many years in the league, and Tom,
- 14:16Speaker 3: you compare those side by side?
- 14:17Speaker 2: Pat is better.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Oh, he's right. Super Bowls, I think touchdown for so long.
- 14:25Speaker 2: It's scary, it's scary. And you kind of got the
- 14:27Speaker 2: Josh Allens and Lamar Jackson's the Joe Burrows. These guys
- 14:30Speaker 2: are kind of like the Mannings in a way where
- 14:32Speaker 2: it's like you gotta beat Pat or Tom Brady and
- 14:36Speaker 2: you know they they're gonna get there.
- 14:38Speaker 3: They I hope they do.
- 14:39Speaker 2: I hope they do.
- 14:41Speaker 1: The first team we got it backed up for a
- 14:43Speaker 1: second because we glossed over it.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go back to it. Use no fucking way.
- 14:48Speaker 2: We're losing to Michigan State. You gotta stop with that talk.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Is that what you're talking about? Gloss and over? Yeah,
- 14:53Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about. You cannot go and just
- 14:56Speaker 2: start pepper and we're gonna lose. I think you said
- 14:57Speaker 2: Penn State. We don't play Penn State this year? Like
- 14:59Speaker 2: we you just start glossing over.
- 15:01Speaker 3: I'm just throwing Listen.
- 15:05Speaker 2: We've lost a lot of guys and there's a lot
- 15:07Speaker 2: of development to happen. But Sharon Moore is the guy.
- 15:09Speaker 2: What I don't like. Here's what I don't like. Wink
- 15:11Speaker 2: came from the Giants. I played Wink multiple times when
- 15:15Speaker 2: he was with the Giants and in other places. The
- 15:17Speaker 2: exotic blitzes and all those things. It's great when you're
- 15:19Speaker 2: playing a quarterback that can't dissect the defense. The way
- 15:22Speaker 2: that I keep sucking up his last time, quitting yours
- 15:25Speaker 2: the way he did. But if you if you throw those,
- 15:28Speaker 2: you need to sometimes you just need to go.
- 15:29Speaker 3: Man.
- 15:29Speaker 2: I mean he's the best, right He's impressive. It's an
- 15:33Speaker 2: impressive cat. Look at this, that's you right now, that
- 15:35Speaker 2: was me on Saturday.
- 15:36Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, you get in the sauna, you
- 15:39Speaker 3: have a fucking iced tea in your back. But you
- 15:41Speaker 3: got to remember, that's what it was.
- 15:43Speaker 2: That's what it was, was past tense. Now we got
- 15:46Speaker 2: to look towards the future. And I'm not listen. Am
- 15:48Speaker 2: I gonna sit here and say we're gonna for sure
- 15:49Speaker 2: win the Natty? No, but we can sit there and
- 15:53Speaker 2: say one lost. Teams can still go to the playoffs.
- 15:56Speaker 3: Twelve one loss.
- 15:57Speaker 2: But you're you're putting the car before the horse. You're
- 15:59Speaker 2: just putting l's in our category. Right now, there's only
- 16:01Speaker 2: one Okay, right now, there's only one. And we got
- 16:04Speaker 2: our Kansas State next week.
- 16:05Speaker 3: Let's let's go. Then we got another muffin around the bus,
- 16:08Speaker 3: and let's just everybody say how many losses on the season,
- 16:11Speaker 3: just for fun. No, that's not fun. Are you a
- 16:12Speaker 3: Michigan Are you a Michigan.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Thoughts when you were a schedule, publish schedule and let's just.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Go around the bus man.
- 16:18Speaker 2: You know, you know how hard it is to take
- 16:19Speaker 2: a video for a minute a half and flex that
- 16:21Speaker 2: hard the whole time. You know how hard it is
- 16:22Speaker 2: to do looking though, man, thanks brother, I was doing
- 16:25Speaker 2: the trappecially after that loss. You know it right now,
- 16:28Speaker 2: My hair is my hair is telling you we lost.
- 16:30Speaker 3: You see that. Yeah, the song and the t's got
- 16:32Speaker 3: you back in the game, though, Yeah, you get your back, you.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Keep sure and we can get the schedule.
- 16:35Speaker 3: And I appreciate.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Yet's not let's focus on not being nasty, all right,
- 16:40Speaker 2: let's focus on.
- 16:41Speaker 1: It's not listening. If we say a loss, it doesn't
- 16:44Speaker 1: mean nasty.
- 16:45Speaker 3: No, no, no no. But if you're a couple of weeks,
- 16:46Speaker 3: yeah we just not.
- 16:47Speaker 1: I would say, you guys, your assholes should be tight
- 16:51Speaker 1: against USC Illinois Oregon, Dude, I'm bro. Illinois is is
- 16:57Speaker 1: not like maybe it's not a walk in the park. Yeah,
- 17:00Speaker 1: Kansas is ranked and they have a good team. Bro, Like,
- 17:02Speaker 1: we have Illinois in two weeks and that's not a game.
- 17:05Speaker 1: I am sleeping on, bro.
- 17:06Speaker 3: They gotta go out to to the to the Northwest
- 17:10Speaker 3: to Man at Washington. It's not the same team. We're
- 17:14Speaker 3: not either rights. That might be a hard game Washington
- 17:17Speaker 3: true first awaken. I'm just saying that we have a
- 17:21Speaker 3: really hard schedule, and to lose to Texas the way
- 17:24Speaker 3: we did at home like that, I see five losses
- 17:29Speaker 3: soon possible here.
- 17:30Speaker 1: That's that's what I wanted to go back to, like
- 17:33Speaker 1: defending national champions The high that Michigan fans were on
- 17:38Speaker 1: for the majority of that stadium to leave early.
- 17:41Speaker 3: In that actually happened was that, Oh, I didn't know
- 17:45Speaker 3: that you were waiting to talk of.
- 17:46Speaker 1: People leaving the same pace and as good as and
- 17:51Speaker 1: you know, he's ruined my day a couple of times.
- 17:53Speaker 1: On College Football twenty five. Mason Graham Graham, Mason Mason Graham,
- 17:57Speaker 1: Mason Graham, some of his body language as one of
- 18:00Speaker 1: the best players on the team and a leader, some
- 18:04Speaker 1: of his body language was not exciting.
- 18:09Speaker 2: It was tough contrast that an animal.
- 18:12Speaker 1: You need your animals to be corraling cats like you know,
- 18:15Speaker 1: you remember.
- 18:15Speaker 3: Do the whole time that that offensive line, I mean
- 18:18Speaker 3: you you mean, you know.
- 18:19Speaker 2: But so they got a kid, they got a kid
- 18:22Speaker 2: that might be a first.
- 18:24Speaker 1: It seemed like they were calling it in. Yeah, it
- 18:26Speaker 1: seemed like they were packing it in walking to the sideline.
- 18:29Speaker 1: And that's just me being real about it, Like I
- 18:32Speaker 1: I think that kid is a stud.
- 18:34Speaker 2: I didn't like I didn't like Mason Graham's energy.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Uh.
- 18:38Speaker 1: There was one where the second quarter.
- 18:40Speaker 2: This was on the other side of the field, away
- 18:42Speaker 2: from the student section and the second quarter and they
- 18:45Speaker 2: called the time out and they started walking over. Defense
- 18:48Speaker 2: kind of jogs over and Mason was walking and that
- 18:50Speaker 2: bothered me.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Defensive huddle himself outside of after.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Halftime, I walked back. He's on the bike.
- 18:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I walked past Bile.
- 19:00Speaker 2: It just you brought up a good, great point during
- 19:02Speaker 2: the game, Indian Hutchinson would have been losing his fucking mind.
- 19:05Speaker 3: And then the.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Contact, by the way, God, every play all over the place. Hey, listen,
- 19:11Speaker 2: we've saitt on this Pocket White guys are making a comeback.
- 19:14Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 19:14Speaker 3: I love I love your all White. I love that.
- 19:19Speaker 3: I think we're getting cooked, but it's but it's getting better.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some good stuff to be Alex Angeloni. Yeah,
- 19:25Speaker 1: he was catching everywhere. Yeah, he was everywhere. But I'm
- 19:29Speaker 1: building that up there a lot of hair.
- 19:32Speaker 4: It's pretty crazy.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Now the contract contracts between Mason Graham and then number
- 19:36Speaker 2: nine which I don't remember his name for Nebraska.
- 19:39Speaker 3: Yeah, tie tie, mm hmmm.
- 19:42Speaker 2: So this kid number nine for Nebraska, he was playing
- 19:45Speaker 2: like a hell like they'll hold that he's he's like
- 19:50Speaker 2: a nose three technique type of guy. But the kid
- 19:52Speaker 2: was just playing with his hair on fire the entire day,
- 19:54Speaker 2: high energy, keeping the guys around him. You and it was,
- 19:58Speaker 2: it was it's tough for me to admit, but you
- 20:00Speaker 2: watch Michigan. The energy didn't seem there. And then the
- 20:03Speaker 2: perfect contrast was an hour and a half later, I'm
- 20:05Speaker 2: in Nebraska and I'm watching a Nebraska team that seems
- 20:07Speaker 2: like they're playing for a national championship and it's in
- 20:09Speaker 2: like every snap matter to them, every single moment. And
- 20:12Speaker 2: I didn't, I didn't necessarily feel that after the first
- 20:14Speaker 2: couple of series.
- 20:15Speaker 3: And let me ask you to a question, because you
- 20:16Speaker 3: guys played NFL. You play college high level, the highest
- 20:19Speaker 3: level you can play. When your team changes a lot,
- 20:22Speaker 3: you go from having a stacked team to then having
- 20:25Speaker 3: like you know, you got a lot of guys have left,
- 20:27Speaker 3: it's gonna be really, really different. You prepare for this game,
- 20:29Speaker 3: but you know the team you're going against is damn good.
- 20:32Speaker 3: Do you know you're gonna lose?
- 20:35Speaker 2: I think it's different.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Is there ever a game that you know you're gonna lose? No,
- 20:39Speaker 1: not a game you go in thinking we're gonna lose
- 20:41Speaker 1: this game. You go in knowing that you know this
- 20:43Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough, tough team.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe after like the first quarter, do you
- 20:48Speaker 3: start kind of like the first sure, for sure those thoughts.
- 20:54Speaker 1: That team knew that it was about to be a
- 20:56Speaker 1: long day.
- 20:57Speaker 3: That's what I'm asking.
- 20:57Speaker 1: I mean similar like even last year, what you guys
- 20:59Speaker 1: are saying, you're saying, she was killing us against uh Nebraska.
- 21:02Speaker 1: It's like second boys quit, tip pass happen. It's like, oh,
- 21:06Speaker 1: here we go again. You kind of just get used it.
- 21:07Speaker 1: But what's surprising is that you go from a national
- 21:10Speaker 1: title team, like the culture there is still a culture
- 21:13Speaker 1: like Sharon Moore, he was an internal upgrade or he
- 21:15Speaker 1: was an internal higher, so the same cultures there. Like
- 21:18Speaker 1: when you're a young guy seeing everybody else play well,
- 21:21Speaker 1: like you can't wait for your opportunity in the next year,
- 21:23Speaker 1: Like yeah, you might feel like fans might feel like
- 21:25Speaker 1: you're down in talent, but as an individual, you don't
- 21:28Speaker 1: think like you're a laughs and how you just think,
- 21:29Speaker 1: oh now it's my time. Like that's how you train
- 21:31Speaker 1: all off season.
- 21:32Speaker 3: You're like, Yo, this is my moment, right.
- 21:34Speaker 2: I think when I think when you're in college, you
- 21:36Speaker 2: drink the kool Aids so much. When I was at Michigan,
- 21:38Speaker 2: we were nine to thirteen. We we were not a
- 21:41Speaker 2: bad team. We never won the games we shouldn't win,
- 21:44Speaker 2: but we never lost the games we should love. Well,
- 21:47Speaker 2: we yeah you know what I'm got so anyway, but
- 21:50Speaker 2: you go to all these games. Yeah, you go to
- 21:52Speaker 2: all these games and you're like, Yo, we're gonna we're
- 21:54Speaker 2: gonna dominate ball ball. As you get in the NFL
- 21:55Speaker 2: and you get older and you start to see the
- 21:57Speaker 2: talent level on teams, like you kind of realize like, Okay,
- 22:00Speaker 2: we got to play really well to beat this team.
- 22:02Speaker 1: The NFL might chalk up some back half. You might
- 22:05Speaker 1: look at him and like, all right, this one.
- 22:09Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Week I remember Week ten, like twenty nineteen, we were
- 22:14Speaker 2: playing Kansas City at home, and I remember being like,
- 22:18Speaker 2: no way, Like we got to play with our hair
- 22:20Speaker 2: on fire. I can't say was on such a such
- 22:22Speaker 2: a role. They're up ten zero after the first quarter,
- 22:24Speaker 2: and we came back and won that game, and that's
- 22:26Speaker 2: when we had a big run. But that was like
- 22:28Speaker 2: one of the only few games I was like, man,
- 22:30Speaker 2: I don't know about this one.
- 22:31Speaker 3: Yeah, because you guys and four.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Yeah, we started off tough and we were just, you know,
- 22:34Speaker 2: not really gelling as a team. Here's a bugs me
- 22:36Speaker 2: about Michigan. The most they've got talent. They're lacking at a
- 22:39Speaker 2: couple of very key areas right now, right that sounds
- 22:42Speaker 2: very very key areas. But they've got talent. Like when
- 22:45Speaker 2: I when.
- 22:46Speaker 3: I I also when I watched when I watch quarterback thing, man,
- 22:50Speaker 3: I really think I know, the two quarterbacks thing is
- 22:55Speaker 3: just the stupidest thing. It's not differ doesn't work, man,
- 22:59Speaker 3: When does it work?
- 23:00Speaker 1: You know it does to.
- 23:01Speaker 2: A tongue of I loa for like a play. I mean, no,
- 23:05Speaker 2: he was Jalen Jalen Hurts was in the bench him
- 23:09Speaker 2: for two No, they benched him and they put him
- 23:11Speaker 2: in during the National Championship.
- 23:12Speaker 3: And came back and won. No, that's not but that's
- 23:14Speaker 3: not that's not what I'm talking about you're talking about
- 23:17Speaker 3: balancing two playing two quarterbacks like on purpose throughout the game.
- 23:21Speaker 3: Fuck that man. As Orgie goes in and and they
- 23:23Speaker 3: all know what we're doing, and.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Then we do it every time.
- 23:26Speaker 3: Yeah the fuck, I know, I know what he's doing.
- 23:29Speaker 2: A third and one, we had a third and one
- 23:31Speaker 2: in the red zone and org Orgi came in. They
- 23:34Speaker 2: call a timeout. Orgi goes back out. He sends a
- 23:36Speaker 2: guy in motion direct snap and then runs forward for
- 23:38Speaker 2: like a two year loss. In my mind, I was like,
- 23:42Speaker 2: what the fuck are we doing. That's when the angry
- 23:44Speaker 2: fan of me came out, and I was like, bro,
- 23:46Speaker 2: can we not? Can we not not do that? But
- 23:49Speaker 2: like it's tough man like this Davis Warren kid. You
- 23:52Speaker 2: know he's gone, he's beat leukemia, he walked on, he
- 23:55Speaker 2: went to starting job. He's got a hell of a
- 23:56Speaker 2: story and he can throw the ball a little bit,
- 23:59Speaker 2: but he just he's just.
- 24:00Speaker 3: Stories heard about the story.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Org I mean, I haven't seen him throw enough to
- 24:06Speaker 2: know whether he could throw it out. And there was
- 24:07Speaker 2: a couple against Presno State where he rolls out he
- 24:10Speaker 2: has a guy open those at his feet and it's
- 24:11Speaker 2: just like it's just something thes just not jelling right now.
- 24:13Speaker 2: But there's talent on that team. And here's why. Here's
- 24:17Speaker 2: why this is this is gonna be Matt Rules's greatest
- 24:19Speaker 2: season right now. Here's why because because next year they're
- 24:25Speaker 2: gonna get five star recruits and they're gonna be guys
- 24:26Speaker 2: that come in that are of the talent level similar
- 24:28Speaker 2: to Rayola, where they're gonna start to match receivers with him,
- 24:31Speaker 2: match an offensive line with him. Defensive players, guys are
- 24:34Speaker 2: gonna want to start going to Nebraska. This is gonna
- 24:36Speaker 2: be the season we look at for Matt Rule where
- 24:39Speaker 2: he goes, look what Matt Rule did with what he had,
- 24:42Speaker 2: and that's not a shot at Nebraska. But what I
- 24:43Speaker 2: stually saw against Colorado was what I saw against Colorado
- 24:47Speaker 2: is a young quarterback who's going to be elite, probably
- 24:49Speaker 2: a first overall pick eventually, a running two running backs
- 24:52Speaker 2: are playing with their hair on fire, and then the
- 24:54Speaker 2: rest of the guys playing eleven dudes playing as a
- 24:58Speaker 2: united front. And that's what that is what's so cool
- 25:01Speaker 2: about Nebraska.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Bro, I'm sorry, what does that mean? Nebraska? No, none
- 25:07Speaker 3: of these none of these five star cats from down
- 25:10Speaker 3: South man, those fucking swamp beefy mother. They do not
- 25:14Speaker 3: want to go play away from their mama and their
- 25:17Speaker 3: papa and their family up in Nebraska. You want how
- 25:20Speaker 3: I know? I game with these guys. Okay, I break
- 25:23Speaker 3: bread with these guys. Man. They tell me they don't
- 25:24Speaker 3: want to go to Nebraska. They're gonna play LSU, They're
- 25:27Speaker 3: gonna play Alabama, they gonna play Georgia, They're gonna play
- 25:29Speaker 3: in Florida, Michigan. I mean, even that's hard to getting
- 25:34Speaker 3: to go up there, man, it really is. It's tough.
- 25:36Speaker 3: So tell me what it's way up here. They don't
- 25:37Speaker 3: want to go play it there. It's cold, bro. It
- 25:40Speaker 3: sucks half the year, if not more, in Nebraska. There's
- 25:43Speaker 3: nothing going on but Nebraska.
- 25:45Speaker 1: This staff is going to bring balance back to us
- 25:47Speaker 1: being a blue blood.
- 25:48Speaker 3: You really believe that, Yes, bro, Look I hope it
- 25:51Speaker 3: for you. I wish I've seen the vision.
- 25:53Speaker 1: For a weekend.
- 25:53Speaker 3: You would, I'm sure fun because you're you, but like,
- 25:57Speaker 3: but you.
- 25:57Speaker 1: Would see you would also see the vision. I mean,
- 26:00Speaker 1: we're still getting transfers, like we're getting cats there. If
- 26:03Speaker 1: you start, yeah, I was, I was schmoozing one up
- 26:07Speaker 1: over the weekend. Really yeah, five star Lineman Jackets, a
- 26:11Speaker 1: kid that was boy Jackson and Dawson Marrit who's committed
- 26:14Speaker 1: to Bama. Right now, I say, hey, brother, you look.
- 26:16Speaker 2: Good in red, Crimson, Actually you look good in red.
- 26:22Speaker 3: One of them's.
- 26:22Speaker 1: Crimson grabbing the biceps. Yeah you you you play at
- 26:26Speaker 1: Bama Georgia like you're gonna go wherever you go and decide.
- 26:29Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great decision. But you go to Georgia, Bamon,
- 26:31Speaker 1: these other schools, you'll be a cog in the machine.
- 26:33Speaker 3: You come and win. Here it's before and.
- 26:37Speaker 1: This class will look just two and oh right now,
- 26:40Speaker 1: maybe got a trap game with Northern I will coming up.
- 26:43Speaker 1: You can hear the preview of that on the locker
- 26:45Speaker 1: room on Thursday when we drop that. But it's just
- 26:48Speaker 1: it's one game at a time. But this class, this
- 26:50Speaker 1: team does have a chance to be remembered forever for
- 26:54Speaker 1: bringing it back to what Taylor talking about, where you
- 26:56Speaker 1: start getting more guys in.
- 26:57Speaker 3: I'm telling you can I have a quick time out.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Respect the time out. Now, let's you and I just
- 27:02Speaker 2: talk like Nick's not here, Okay. I don't like how
- 27:04Speaker 2: this guy is coming in here and making us have
- 27:06Speaker 2: to defend our schools.
- 27:07Speaker 3: This is that's okay, this is, this is, this is,
- 27:10Speaker 3: this is we should be able to I thought we
- 27:15Speaker 3: were just having a real.
- 27:15Speaker 2: Con What time out?
- 27:17Speaker 3: What the time out? Okay, you're not here?
- 27:19Speaker 1: Can I tell you something on your end on Michigan's in. Yeah,
- 27:23Speaker 1: he's been a fan of Michigan.
- 27:24Speaker 3: I know.
- 27:25Speaker 2: And he's being disrespectful. Yeah, like you got like to
- 27:28Speaker 2: be a fan is to have delusion. You have to
- 27:31Speaker 2: have in a sense delusion. You know that better than anybody.
- 27:34Speaker 1: But I know that we're building something right. People just
- 27:37Speaker 1: had tote patience and.
- 27:39Speaker 2: I can sit here and consciously say, you have missions
- 27:40Speaker 2: going missions obviously because we've lost all game has taken
- 27:43Speaker 2: a step back this year than we have in years past.
- 27:45Speaker 3: That's the reality.
- 27:47Speaker 2: Other than that, the schedule, That's what I'm saying.
- 27:49Speaker 3: That's why he's that's.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Like crazy, guys, and I hate I truly I want
- 27:53Speaker 1: this to land as soft as possible. You guys might
- 27:55Speaker 1: lose five games this year and you've got.
- 27:57Speaker 2: To be right And I'm not getting I need time
- 27:59Speaker 2: back in. You're back in, Nick, go ahead, I'm not prepared.
- 28:03Speaker 3: Can you pulled up Michigan the back of the bus
- 28:05Speaker 3: field Jack waiting to go around.
- 28:07Speaker 4: Man.
- 28:07Speaker 5: Yeah, I just look at Michigan schedule. Hold on, so
- 28:12Speaker 5: you guys have aar state next week. I think you
- 28:14Speaker 5: guys will probably pull that one out. Yeah, Usc most
- 28:18Speaker 5: likely y'all are gonna get that.
- 28:22Speaker 1: That's that's.
- 28:26Speaker 2: With all due respect.
- 28:27Speaker 3: And then.
- 28:28Speaker 5: Yeah, Minnesota, Minnesota. I think you guys have opportunity to
- 28:33Speaker 5: win Washington.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Opportunity.
- 28:36Speaker 5: I don't think. I think Washington because it's a West
- 28:38Speaker 5: coast game. Like Nick said, that's a tough travel schedule
- 28:41Speaker 5: to be tough to win Michigan state.
- 28:46Speaker 3: You went paston.
- 28:47Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked. I do think Illinois is gonna be
- 28:49Speaker 5: your tough program for you all to face.
- 28:51Speaker 3: They're good.
- 28:52Speaker 5: So do you think y'all are gonna beat Indiana in Northwestern?
- 28:57Speaker 5: Everything else is up in the air. Ohio State obviously
- 29:00Speaker 5: the scariest game of y'all season, being the last and
- 29:02Speaker 5: your biggest rival. But I think you'll have Northwestern Indiana
- 29:06Speaker 5: and possibly Minnesota in the back.
- 29:12Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of improvement, There's just so much work
- 29:17Speaker 4: to be done. I'm I don't feel comfortable.
- 29:19Speaker 2: Do you mind grabbing the mic?
- 29:21Speaker 4: I don't feel comfortable.
- 29:22Speaker 1: Over under seven and a half wins this year.
- 29:24Speaker 3: Come on, oh, man, just say it. Man, who cares
- 29:27Speaker 3: what people think?
- 29:27Speaker 4: Man? Just say my heart is with Taylor, though I
- 29:30Speaker 4: want I want to be.
- 29:31Speaker 3: Like me too. But but you just looking at the schedule.
- 29:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think five losses is real.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Yeah, that's potential.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Don't count a just potential, don't don't don't.
- 29:44Speaker 2: I see three potential losses on the schedule, which ones
- 29:47Speaker 2: with THEE. The three potential is oh yeah, we already
- 29:52Speaker 2: have one. I see organ and I know that. Listen crazy.
- 29:57Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, dude, I'm telling you when it
- 30:00Speaker 2: comes to rivalry games, but you gotta throw you gotta
- 30:03Speaker 2: throw records out the window.
- 30:05Speaker 4: That's when I was there.
- 30:06Speaker 2: When I was there twelve, twenty twelve season or twenty
- 30:10Speaker 2: thirteen season, they were better than us. We were a
- 30:13Speaker 2: seven and five program and we went for two at
- 30:15Speaker 2: the end of the game for the win and didn't
- 30:16Speaker 2: get it. And they were they were the top five team.
- 30:20Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we we can. You guys can say
- 30:22Speaker 2: all the things you want now, extremely disrespectful that we're
- 30:26Speaker 2: talking about Minnesota. That's crazy.
- 30:28Speaker 1: They've had they've they've done solid.
- 30:30Speaker 2: They they played North Carolina in Week one, missed a
- 30:34Speaker 2: field goal and sent off their fireworks. Will you're not
- 30:37Speaker 2: gonna tell me that programs got their ship together. Okay,
- 30:40Speaker 2: by the way, you're just talking about it. By the way,
- 30:43Speaker 2: that's a rivalry game as well, that's why we go.
- 30:45Speaker 2: That's for that's for the brown job, that's for the
- 30:47Speaker 2: Brown So once again, okay, okay, So I.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Respect that, by the way, And.
- 30:53Speaker 1: Also he says Minnesota throw records out.
- 30:55Speaker 2: The window, especially the hold on organ. Respect that you're
- 30:58Speaker 2: gonna look me in the eyes and tell me Idaho
- 31:00Speaker 2: State and Boise State are a couple of good ball
- 31:04Speaker 2: programs because they because I'm pretty sure Boise of State
- 31:07Speaker 2: was winning at one point against Oregon, and I'm pretty
- 31:09Speaker 2: say went down to the wire with both those teams.
- 31:11Speaker 2: So you're not gonna look me in the eyes and
- 31:12Speaker 2: tell me all of a sudden that they're gonna walk home,
- 31:15Speaker 2: yeah home. Michigan State, listen, Michigan State is utter dog ship.
- 31:21Speaker 3: I know they're dogship, but again.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Records dog ship, and we have the mental we have
- 31:29Speaker 2: the mental fortitude on them because we've been dusting that ass.
- 31:32Speaker 3: The last three years what I see, guys, So he's
- 31:34Speaker 3: feeling good.
- 31:37Speaker 2: I like Jackie to get away from the microphone because
- 31:39Speaker 2: we weren't gonna be nasty. Then all of a sudden
- 31:41Speaker 2: we said dog walk and we said I hope you
- 31:43Speaker 2: guys will pull on. And I know it feels good
- 31:47Speaker 2: because of how I act like I know it feels good.
- 31:50Speaker 5: I'm not saying I enjoy seeing like this at all,
- 31:53Speaker 5: but I like seeing This is what true fandom is
- 31:57Speaker 5: is dying every week because a team that you have
- 32:00Speaker 5: no control over dictate your mental health. And that that
- 32:03Speaker 5: is college football. That's fandom. It's not winning a national
- 32:06Speaker 5: championship year one.
- 32:08Speaker 3: Is a fan.
- 32:09Speaker 5: This is truly how you become a Michigan fan. Obviously
- 32:12Speaker 5: you have all of the the whatever you played there.
- 32:16Speaker 2: But this is what fandom is, backbone of the program.
- 32:19Speaker 2: But yeah, per but this is what fantom is.
- 32:21Speaker 3: So you have to.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you of all the people in here,
- 32:26Speaker 2: of all the people in here, Nick, I'm most disappointed.
- 32:29Speaker 2: I know, I know, because you should know better being
- 32:32Speaker 2: a fan, you would have been one of the fans
- 32:33Speaker 2: that left in the third quarter two for you the
- 32:38Speaker 2: Minnesota Minnesota win Kansas win. Let's just say USC doesn't
- 32:43Speaker 2: go away. We'll just we'll play to the masses here
- 32:45Speaker 2: and say it doesn't go away. So you know what
- 32:47Speaker 2: I think, because my math is for whatever reason, getting
- 32:50Speaker 2: really bad. So we're one and one, two and one.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Now we're two and two. Minnesota, Yeah, three and two,
- 32:55Speaker 2: Washington four and two, Illinois five and two, Michigan State
- 33:00Speaker 2: six and two, Oregon. I've already said my piece. In Oregon,
- 33:03Speaker 2: I'm gonna say seven and two, Indiana eight and two,
- 33:06Speaker 2: Northwestern nine and two, and then I've already talked about
- 33:09Speaker 2: Ohio State. Dude, you throw those records out out the window.
- 33:11Speaker 2: And in USC played a LSU team. You USC played
- 33:16Speaker 2: an LSU team who historically loses their first game against big,
- 33:19Speaker 2: big opponents historically. So I'm not taking USC off the
- 33:24Speaker 2: board either. I'm we could win there, We could went
- 33:27Speaker 2: out and it just depends on the boys jelling. They
- 33:31Speaker 2: got a gel. But you can look at this schedule
- 33:34Speaker 2: and be like I listen, in Ohio State, we might
- 33:38Speaker 2: have the same record because they're gonna lose in Nebraska
- 33:40Speaker 2: and they're gonna lose the Penn State, so we'll have
- 33:43Speaker 2: a better record than them.
- 33:45Speaker 3: They're gonna lose.
- 33:46Speaker 2: The Penn State I love. See that's how you know
- 33:49Speaker 2: Nebraska's made it. You just looked. You just looked over
- 33:53Speaker 2: my coming about Nebraska and say that's gotta feel good.
- 33:56Speaker 3: Penn State horrible. I mean that quarterback. I'm sorry, man,
- 34:01Speaker 3: but he's just not him.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Hey, let's let's say give me a positive take about something.
- 34:07Speaker 3: Okay, I want a lot of sports bets. Lot let's
- 34:11Speaker 3: go NFL college you name it.
- 34:14Speaker 2: I was your best win.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:15Speaker 4: I was gonna say, what were you most I put?
- 34:17Speaker 3: I put like eight grand on the Cowboys to win
- 34:22Speaker 3: money against the spread.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you took him with the points? Are you bet?
- 34:26Speaker 3: I gave away points? I gave away points. It seems
- 34:29Speaker 3: like you beat the ship out of the Browns and
- 34:31Speaker 3: we made so much money off that. Meet me Tim,
- 34:34Speaker 3: everybody and we all bet him.
- 34:35Speaker 2: I didn't get to say.
- 34:37Speaker 3: It's just like the SHAWNE has done depends on he
- 34:41Speaker 3: seems like he's like there's some real kinks in his
- 34:43Speaker 3: game and he needs to get that uh k off field.
- 34:47Speaker 1: Yeah, get back on the table.
- 34:49Speaker 3: Every since everything. Here's what I said, played a little bit.
- 34:53Speaker 2: You know what I heard is Bill O'Brien was running
- 34:56Speaker 2: Clemson's offense at Houston because he couldn't conform to any
- 35:00Speaker 2: other NFL offense. And now the Browns are trying to
- 35:02Speaker 2: get him to go and run that offense, and he's
- 35:04Speaker 2: just he just can't do it. That's why you see
- 35:06Speaker 2: Joe Flacco come in and do what he did last year.
- 35:08Speaker 3: I don't see the Browns, man, I still see it.
- 35:11Speaker 2: The Browns are in a tough spot and they give
- 35:12Speaker 2: so much money.
- 35:13Speaker 1: He's still like the number two.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Do you see part of my takes take on it?
- 35:18Speaker 2: It is really good. Big Colt and p f T
- 35:22Speaker 2: were saying that, I think we're at the point where
- 35:25Speaker 2: we can say that Deshaun Watson as good of a
- 35:28Speaker 2: player he is on the field, he's been better off
- 35:30Speaker 2: the field.
- 35:30Speaker 1: He's a better person.
- 35:34Speaker 3: That's crazy. Well they kicked out and they sent him
- 35:37Speaker 3: down to Tampa, right, yeah, yeah, now he's bawling. Yeah yeah,
- 35:41Speaker 3: you're a Bucks fan too, you think, Yeah, he's he
- 35:45Speaker 3: plays with with with such attitude. Man, it's hard not
- 35:48Speaker 3: to love, you know. He just that he just wants
- 35:50Speaker 3: to play football. Man. Yeah, he's not going to be
- 35:53Speaker 3: as accurate as maybe like Bro that boy, Dak Prescott, man,
- 35:57Speaker 3: he can put the ball anywhere. He's a psychle Dak. No,
- 36:01Speaker 3: I think he's overrated. But but during I think, I think,
- 36:04Speaker 3: I think people don't give him playoffs, like the team
- 36:09Speaker 3: always falls so short. But during the regular logo is unbelievable.
- 36:13Speaker 2: The logo on the logo on his helmet. Dude, you're
- 36:15Speaker 2: behind the eight ball every single time. If you don't
- 36:17Speaker 2: play perfect.
- 36:18Speaker 3: Well, it's you know, he's not as accurate as a
- 36:20Speaker 3: guy like Dak, but he plays football tough and I
- 36:22Speaker 3: think that the team that he's on they enjoy that.
- 36:25Speaker 3: I love Mike Evans. He scored two touchdowns the other day.
- 36:28Speaker 3: That's my guy. You know. Uh, I think they got
- 36:30Speaker 3: a lot going on down there, a lot of good things.
- 36:33Speaker 3: But Dallas, if they can just win a game in
- 36:36Speaker 3: the fucking playoffs, man, this could be a scary team.
- 36:39Speaker 3: I just don't know if they're gonna be able to
- 36:40Speaker 3: do it.
- 36:40Speaker 2: Man, that's just that he just never That's the conversation
- 36:43Speaker 2: after they got killed by every year at home in
- 36:45Speaker 2: the come on.
- 36:47Speaker 3: But green Bay, green Bay was the worse than your
- 36:50Speaker 3: stream with I mean we played with Hakwon Barkley, great guy,
- 36:54Speaker 3: I remember we were scheduled to do like a two
- 36:55Speaker 3: hour stream and we played the whole day together. Yeah,
- 36:58Speaker 3: Like I was supposed to go do up and he
- 37:00Speaker 3: was supposed to go do stuff. But we just played
- 37:03Speaker 3: and we were the whole time just like this. He's
- 37:05Speaker 3: actually not bad and he's like this shot. He's got
- 37:08Speaker 3: a kind of a calm demeanor, you know what I mean.
- 37:09Speaker 3: And we were just kind of gaming and chatting. We
- 37:12Speaker 3: played like eight hours. We were scheduled for two. It
- 37:15Speaker 3: was really strange.
- 37:16Speaker 1: Who's an NFL guy who you respect their game the most?
- 37:19Speaker 3: Mike Evans, He's better than me a lot of those games. Man,
- 37:22Speaker 3: No ship, I'm kidding, because I mean I took a
- 37:24Speaker 3: big step back. I stopped playing so much. And this
- 37:26Speaker 3: this guy, when he's always playing and he's cracked and
- 37:29Speaker 3: he's unbelievable. Man, he really is. He's unreal. He's very
- 37:33Speaker 3: very good at the gatter than Fortnight. He's better than
- 37:36Speaker 3: me I now.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Actually, Mike Evans is better than you at Fortnite.
- 37:39Speaker 3: He can build and edit like a keyboard guy. I can't.
- 37:43Speaker 3: I can shoot, but you know that game now you
- 37:45Speaker 3: gotta build and edit the builds and stuff. He can
- 37:48Speaker 3: do it all. And it wasn't always that way. When
- 37:50Speaker 3: we first started playing, he was a bot and he
- 37:52Speaker 3: was really mad about it, and I could tell it.
- 37:54Speaker 3: We were with together, No, he was just horrible. He
- 37:56Speaker 3: went to terms together and uh, we did super well.
- 38:01Speaker 3: But he would get irritated that he couldn't keep up
- 38:04Speaker 3: in these big tournaments. And I kept talking to Mike
- 38:06Speaker 3: have the lobby or pro gamers, like it'd be like
- 38:08Speaker 3: me going on the on the field with YouTube and
- 38:09Speaker 3: getting mad that I can't keep up. I'm not gonna,
- 38:11Speaker 3: you know. But he had just look in his eye, man,
- 38:14Speaker 3: like that competitor ship. And he would go home and
- 38:16Speaker 3: practice on the low and eventually got to a point
- 38:19Speaker 3: where he's he's no joke now, man, it's crazy.
- 38:22Speaker 1: I love that.
- 38:23Speaker 2: I love It's I've never played a game of Fortnite
- 38:25Speaker 2: in my life.
- 38:26Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't.
- 38:27Speaker 1: I was I was more pub g Are you not
- 38:29Speaker 1: a gamer?
- 38:31Speaker 3: I love like.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yeah, RPG shooters, No, dude.
- 38:37Speaker 3: I played a little bit of.
- 38:38Speaker 2: That Call of Duty with the zombies.
- 38:40Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 38:40Speaker 2: I had a good time. I thought that was really fun.
- 38:42Speaker 3: By the way, he just said that that he doesn't
- 38:44Speaker 3: played a ship.
- 38:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it like my dad Nintennessee's four
- 38:52Speaker 2: Super Smash Brothers. I was filthy with fire fire filthy.
- 38:56Speaker 1: You were best in the locker room with Super Smash bros.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I control you guys have little lands
- 39:01Speaker 2: in there ship.
- 39:02Speaker 1: When I got to Tennessee, like it seemed like they
- 39:04Speaker 1: had a little thing going. Maybe it was mostly old women.
- 39:06Speaker 2: Yeah, we would play after every practice and stuff like that.
- 39:08Speaker 4: I brought it in.
- 39:09Speaker 2: The thing that sucks is I broke this thumb and
- 39:11Speaker 2: it doesn't really I can't know left. So my my
- 39:15Speaker 2: moving left is my game has gone down on the
- 39:17Speaker 2: turn left. No, I stay turned left. I'm posentually Zootlander.
- 39:20Speaker 2: But we got the boys in here. We we hooked
- 39:22Speaker 2: it up one day and they did stop wanting to
- 39:24Speaker 2: play with me for like twenty minutes.
- 39:25Speaker 3: But I was putting that much work.
- 39:27Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, No. My freshman year at Michigan, one of
- 39:30Speaker 2: my hallmates at West Quad, he was like all about
- 39:34Speaker 2: Super Smash and I would go in his room all time.
- 39:35Speaker 2: We would just play for hours. Yeah, and he like
- 39:37Speaker 2: kind of put me on game of how to play
- 39:39Speaker 2: well and eventually ended up.
- 39:40Speaker 3: It's crazy, like when your brain gets that into a
- 39:43Speaker 3: game time just the time just you blanket. It's been
- 39:45Speaker 3: like eight hours, no doubt it. I'm so. I'm so.
- 39:48Speaker 2: That's how it was for like Red Day redemption for me. Yeah,
- 39:50Speaker 2: because I did that after my second ACL surgery. I
- 39:53Speaker 2: played that game and beat it in seven days.
- 39:54Speaker 3: They say that's one of the greatest games of all time,
- 39:56Speaker 3: but I've never played. You've never played. You want to cry? Yeah? Yeah,
- 40:00Speaker 3: that's why I heard like the jo moving type thing, man,
- 40:04Speaker 3: Like it's like it hurts.
- 40:05Speaker 1: What's this? What's the newer game that you've been streaming
- 40:07Speaker 1: a lot?
- 40:08Speaker 3: Elden Ring?
- 40:08Speaker 1: Yeah, elden Ring? Is that like an RP same.
- 40:11Speaker 3: Thing, same thing as that, same thing as Kiram too. Yeah, okay,
- 40:14Speaker 3: they called RPG one percent. Need to stream red there. Yeah,
- 40:17Speaker 3: people were telling me to do that, man, I just
- 40:18Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it's haven't been gaming as much lately,
- 40:20Speaker 3: rob and just enjoying time being a father and just chilling.
- 40:22Speaker 3: You know. I've been streaming for like twenty years straight, NonStop,
- 40:25Speaker 3: just games, games, games, So how we're gonna take a
- 40:27Speaker 3: fat break?
- 40:27Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 40:28Speaker 1: Absolutely? How's that shifted for you? Like since becoming a dad?
- 40:31Speaker 3: It's awesome. It's just I mean, I you know, I
- 40:33Speaker 3: work from home, so that's super cool. I'm there all
- 40:35Speaker 3: the time, you know, and I mean, he's he's the
- 40:38Speaker 3: best man. It's so fun to I mean, but you
- 40:39Speaker 3: guys know it like not everything changes, but the way
- 40:42Speaker 3: you look at everything changes. And it's just been a
- 40:44Speaker 3: lot of fun. Uh, this this period of my life,
- 40:47Speaker 3: you know, was it hard?
- 40:48Speaker 1: Was it was it hard transitioning away from gaming? And no,
- 40:52Speaker 1: hell no, Like with the wife for you guys ever,
- 40:54Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, the schedule, I need you to
- 40:56Speaker 1: shift it around a little bit.
- 40:58Speaker 3: She she's the gold man. She she just she just
- 41:01Speaker 3: handles it all. If she needs help, she'll you know,
- 41:03Speaker 3: have a conversation or whatever.
- 41:04Speaker 4: You know.
- 41:05Speaker 3: But at first I was streaming a lot, you know,
- 41:06Speaker 3: when we had just had him, so there were times
- 41:09Speaker 3: where she needed me. I took a little bit of
- 41:11Speaker 3: time off, you know. But dude, she's a tank man.
- 41:13Speaker 3: She just takes care of I have a great one,
- 41:16Speaker 3: you know. That's awesome. Yeah, he had a good team.
- 41:19Speaker 3: Twenty years, bro, twenty years.
- 41:21Speaker 1: How long have you been streaming at at like a high?
- 41:24Speaker 1: You kind of exploded with Fortnite twelve.
- 41:26Speaker 3: Yeah, twelve years now, what so twenty twenty years I was.
- 41:29Speaker 3: I was big before that too, man. I mean you know,
- 41:32Speaker 3: I was one of the first partner streamers on justin TV,
- 41:35Speaker 3: which is now twitch tv. So way back when when
- 41:39Speaker 3: streaming was really really difficult to break into. I had
- 41:41Speaker 3: a buddy who was who was a nerd, who knew
- 41:43Speaker 3: all about it, and I mean I didn't. So he
- 41:45Speaker 3: came out, he set me all up, and uh, there
- 41:47Speaker 3: was really only maybe like ten or twenty people streaming then.
- 41:51Speaker 3: You know, you couldn't make any any cash off it.
- 41:53Speaker 3: It was just kind of for fun and I'm playing
- 41:55Speaker 3: and there's a chat, and it's all it's this new experience,
- 41:57Speaker 3: you know, I'm having fun with it, and then it
- 42:00Speaker 3: just kind of evolved into everything that it is today.
- 42:04Speaker 3: But dude, I've been I've been gaming since I was
- 42:06Speaker 3: like a kid, I mean competitively gaming. I was like
- 42:09Speaker 3: ten or eleven. I remember begging him to take me
- 42:11Speaker 3: to a small tournament like an hour away from my
- 42:13Speaker 3: home and he wouldn't do it. And I told him,
- 42:15Speaker 3: I like, oh, look, I promise you that there's like
- 42:18Speaker 3: four hun cash prize. I'll win that thing. And he
- 42:20Speaker 3: wouldn't do it. And then finally he cracked and he
- 42:23Speaker 3: took me to one and I won, and I had
- 42:25Speaker 3: like four or five hundred cash. I'm like see, and
- 42:27Speaker 3: he couldn't fucking believe it. He drove me to a
- 42:29Speaker 3: Bank of America and we made a bank account. I
- 42:30Speaker 3: was like twelve years old and he had to be
- 42:32Speaker 3: there because I can't make an account. Yeah, and then
- 42:34Speaker 3: he so he's trying to. He was super We we
- 42:37Speaker 3: had a lot going on, uh, just because you know,
- 42:41Speaker 3: he coached college ball and you know that environment man,
- 42:43Speaker 3: like you know, and my family. I mean, I know,
- 42:45Speaker 3: you know Alex Brad, those guys that playing in the end.
- 42:47Speaker 3: I got cousins in the NFL. Cousins will played high
- 42:50Speaker 3: level college. My little brother is an athlete. He was
- 42:52Speaker 3: an athlete he coached. So for me to not go
- 42:57Speaker 3: down that route and start doing this gaming shit, he
- 43:00Speaker 3: was having a breakdown.
- 43:01Speaker 5: Man.
- 43:01Speaker 3: You know, he had no idea how to fucking handle it,
- 43:03Speaker 3: you know, but we I promise him, I mean, look,
- 43:06Speaker 3: I'm the best of this Gears of War Halo shit,
- 43:08Speaker 3: So just take me these tournaments and I'll just cash out.
- 43:10Speaker 3: He goes, all right, So we start going all these
- 43:12Speaker 3: tourneys and I'm just four hundred, eight hundreds, five hundred
- 43:15Speaker 3: four hundred just cash, cash, cash, fucking twenty grand. I'm
- 43:19Speaker 3: fourteen with twenty K in my bank account.
- 43:22Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine, could not imagine that fote.
- 43:25Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, I just want to go buy shit,
- 43:26Speaker 3: you know, but he won't let me, you know what
- 43:28Speaker 3: I mean. But we got twenty K in there. And
- 43:30Speaker 3: that's when I just started getting crazier and crazier. Man,
- 43:32Speaker 3: that there was like one hundred k and then one
- 43:34Speaker 3: hundred and fifty k. By the town, I was eighteen,
- 43:36Speaker 3: one hundred fifty grand. You're bank count eighteen from gaming,
- 43:39Speaker 3: and I'm like, what the fuck do I do with this?
- 43:41Speaker 3: I'm sitting down with the tax lady with the you know,
- 43:43Speaker 3: it's nuts, man.
- 43:45Speaker 4: I'm doing it my.
- 43:46Speaker 3: Whole life before you in twenty twelve. How wow was
- 43:52Speaker 3: I with twenty?
- 43:53Speaker 1: Fuck man?
- 43:53Speaker 3: Twenty? Maybe?
- 43:55Speaker 1: Okay, right. I think it's perfect that dad is on
- 43:57Speaker 1: the bus because him being from the football mole. It's
- 44:00Speaker 1: like it's even still happening, like your kids, like your
- 44:04Speaker 1: kid wants to be a streamer or a gamer. The
- 44:06Speaker 1: parents at the time, like even myself it's like, yeah,
- 44:08Speaker 1: these dudes who are trying to make money streaming, Like
- 44:11Speaker 1: is there anything in it? Like would you guys go
- 44:12Speaker 1: toes about him him spending way too much time on
- 44:15Speaker 1: the game, like I would love to hear dead so much.
- 44:18Speaker 1: There's no doubt, There's no doubt. Here was a guy
- 44:20Speaker 1: knocking the door, like bro, even coaches like, hey, stop
- 44:23Speaker 1: playing fucking video games.
- 44:24Speaker 3: You play telling by when my high school coach came
- 44:26Speaker 3: to well, no, I mean the breaking point for me
- 44:28Speaker 3: was we were in Dallas for MLG, remember yeah, and
- 44:32Speaker 3: you guys won that tournament, and I'm standing there looking
- 44:35Speaker 3: at you.
- 44:36Speaker 6: Holding the cardboard check that says forty grand on it,
- 44:38Speaker 6: and I'm going, damn, hm, maybe I better get fully
- 44:42Speaker 6: behind this, you know. Yeah, I mean no, there we
- 44:44Speaker 6: went at it many times. To answer your question, I mean,
- 44:46Speaker 6: she's fighting breaking xboxes. I work for him now, but
- 44:56Speaker 6: I talked to his high school football coachaid, please, man,
- 44:58Speaker 6: you got to talk to him.
- 44:59Speaker 4: You just just come to the house. You know. He
- 45:01Speaker 4: doesn't listen to me, And he's.
- 45:04Speaker 6: Knocked on the door and strolls up there from his
- 45:06Speaker 6: gaming console, you know, and the guy's trying to talk
- 45:09Speaker 6: him into coming to practice, and it's like, yeah, you know,
- 45:11Speaker 6: maybe I will, maybe I won't.
- 45:13Speaker 1: You're pissed, so brout your future into gaming, Like there's
- 45:22Speaker 1: no future in that, I'm sure you're feeling at the time.
- 45:24Speaker 6: Of course, exactly, course, because there was nobody to emulate,
- 45:27Speaker 6: nobody to follows.
- 45:30Speaker 3: Basically, like we literally didn't talk for a couple of
- 45:32Speaker 3: years after that point. No, that's how bad he got, Like, yeah, bro,
- 45:36Speaker 3: we would go at, it would yell, and then you know,
- 45:38Speaker 3: your dad's getting disciplined, you know, kick kick my ass,
- 45:41Speaker 3: you know. And then but he, like from my POV,
- 45:44Speaker 3: he just didn't understand that this is what I love
- 45:46Speaker 3: to do at the end of the day in life,
- 45:48Speaker 3: you know, I think it's really important to just be
- 45:50Speaker 3: passionate and follow your heart. If you love something, get
- 45:53Speaker 3: after it. And this is what I love to do.
- 45:55Speaker 3: But I'm skipping my high school practices, I'm skipping school.
- 45:58Speaker 3: My grades are falling behind school. Yeah, because I was
- 46:02Speaker 3: up to like three four in the morning every night
- 46:04Speaker 3: playing and I was getting really good, and we were
- 46:06Speaker 3: winning online tournaments too. That's when they were pushing out
- 46:08Speaker 3: those game battles online a tourneys, so now I'm cash
- 46:10Speaker 3: now on these like two b two little side gigs.
- 46:12Speaker 3: I'm making like three hundred bucks in my room. The
- 46:15Speaker 3: fuck I'm gonna go to algebra before, bro, you know,
- 46:17Speaker 3: I don't care. And then I would go to school
- 46:19Speaker 3: and I'd be so tired that I can't even perform
- 46:21Speaker 3: here anyways. Man, So I'm sleeping. My teachers are kicking
- 46:23Speaker 3: me out. It's this whole thing. So they're thinking about
- 46:26Speaker 3: kicking me out to like army camp like for kids,
- 46:28Speaker 3: and shit, yeah, you got.
- 46:30Speaker 1: A son that's not going to doing all the things
- 46:32Speaker 1: that you should be doing.
- 46:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I look back at it all. I don't follow
- 46:35Speaker 3: him at all. I mean, I don't have any any
- 46:37Speaker 3: weird shit in my heart. He was confused and he
- 46:39Speaker 3: and he and he should have been and he was
- 46:41Speaker 3: just trying to steer his son in the right direction.
- 46:43Speaker 3: And I mean, me being the dickhead and I am,
- 46:46Speaker 3: you just can't tell me what to do, man, So
- 46:48Speaker 3: I just kept and eventually, you know, it popped off
- 46:51Speaker 3: for me. But the truth is is, back then, I
- 46:53Speaker 3: was throwing my life away, you know what I mean,
- 46:55Speaker 3: just because I love to do something that wasn't popular, right,
- 46:59Speaker 3: And it just so happened. Then when the whole thing
- 47:01Speaker 3: blew the fuck up, because it blew up, I was
- 47:03Speaker 3: right in the front, man, I was already one of
- 47:05Speaker 3: the bigger guys. So my ship overnight went from fucking
- 47:08Speaker 3: you know, okay, I'm making like one hundred k year.
- 47:10Speaker 3: Now I'm making like mill No, I me and him
- 47:13Speaker 3: got Now we got to try to understand all this.
- 47:16Speaker 4: You know.
- 47:17Speaker 3: And I mean it's great. I love that, you know
- 47:19Speaker 3: what I mean. But it's a pretty it's a pretty
- 47:20Speaker 3: crazy childhood in our family dynamic. It was. It was
- 47:23Speaker 3: tough to grow up that way, you know, because because.
- 47:26Speaker 1: You're sounds like you got his dad.
- 47:29Speaker 3: Yeah, his fucking dad hated me for a long time. Man,
- 47:32Speaker 3: he did, he did. He can stand me.
- 47:34Speaker 2: But your dad sounds like every single dad would have
- 47:38Speaker 2: been the exact family. If I skip, if I skipped football.
- 47:41Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my little brother was the two times hate
- 47:44Speaker 3: champion because I did that ship. But I started skipping
- 47:46Speaker 3: those practices as well. He's so angry. But yeah, I mean,
- 47:50Speaker 3: you know, look, I just loved it. I fucking loved it.
- 47:54Speaker 3: Like when you like someone when you're come off the
- 47:56Speaker 3: head and bang it. Did you just get that feeling.
- 47:58Speaker 3: You know. I I felt that too when I played football,
- 48:00Speaker 3: when I played bad. I played all kinds of sports,
- 48:02Speaker 3: and I was good at him too. I mean I
- 48:03Speaker 3: was all right. I wasn't as good as you guys,
- 48:05Speaker 3: but I was. I was decent. I had fun. But
- 48:07Speaker 3: when I'm playing gaming, I clutch up and the crowd
- 48:10Speaker 3: goes nuts. I mean there was times a beround Land
- 48:11Speaker 3: where I make a big play in the fucking ground
- 48:13Speaker 3: shaken and that this ship falling from the healing and stuff.
- 48:16Speaker 3: I mean, I got clips of eight and I popping
- 48:18Speaker 3: off and we're winning like fifty grand just by getting
- 48:21Speaker 3: these kills, and I'm killing them and the crowd's going
- 48:23Speaker 3: fucking crazy cardboard checks, which I mean, that's what I
- 48:27Speaker 3: live for, man, you know, so I just it took
- 48:30Speaker 3: a while to get there.
- 48:31Speaker 2: What so you guys you said you two didn't talk
- 48:33Speaker 2: for a couple of years, well, and eavily brought you
- 48:35Speaker 2: to back together.
- 48:37Speaker 3: Is it like I don't I don't remember. I just
- 48:39Speaker 3: remember him, and I really not see an eyed eye obviously,
- 48:43Speaker 3: And I think that. You know, I love my dad
- 48:46Speaker 3: like my dad, you know, to me, this is my person, man,
- 48:49Speaker 3: this is my guy. You know, I got my but
- 48:51Speaker 3: this guy that I wanted to I want to be
- 48:53Speaker 3: like if I could be half the father he is
- 48:55Speaker 3: some day great. Not to be too emotional, keep going,
- 48:58Speaker 3: keep going. Yeah, you know you seem to have to
- 49:01Speaker 3: break up getting to let you know, so I really
- 49:04Speaker 3: wanted to get that relationship back, and he did too. Man,
- 49:07Speaker 3: I'm his first son. You know, we we got you know,
- 49:09Speaker 3: a lot going on. There was a lot. It was
- 49:11Speaker 3: a tough situation, and we both are smart enough to
- 49:13Speaker 3: know that that's not his fall or my fall. It's
- 49:16Speaker 3: just Wow, this is a really interesting like position that
- 49:19Speaker 3: we're both in and we can't go anywhere for help
- 49:22Speaker 3: because I don't have anybody to show him, like, hey, dad,
- 49:24Speaker 3: here's this gamer that I can be liking. He doesn't
- 49:26Speaker 3: he doesn't have a parent to go to, like, hey,
- 49:27Speaker 3: here's this kid that skips everything important in his life
- 49:30Speaker 3: is doing is doing this. Yeah, so we're in this
- 49:32Speaker 3: weird place. But ultimately, you know, we just said, Okay,
- 49:36Speaker 3: enough's enough, man, you know, let's just be let's just
- 49:39Speaker 3: be dudes about it, you know what I mean, Let's
- 49:40Speaker 3: let's just and.
- 49:41Speaker 4: We just I think right about them with seal.
- 49:43Speaker 3: Training, Yeah, then it was weird man training.
- 49:48Speaker 4: I coached him.
- 49:49Speaker 6: Okay, so to go to Buds to try to be
- 49:54Speaker 6: a Seal, you have to get a Buds like contract.
- 49:56Speaker 3: You can't just go. So you got to do a
- 49:58Speaker 3: push up test, a pull up test, sit up test,
- 50:01Speaker 3: two mile run like a swim, all back to back
- 50:03Speaker 3: to back to back to back, and then you get
- 50:05Speaker 3: a certain score and they only really draft the top scores,
- 50:09Speaker 3: you know, every what two months or three months, I
- 50:12Speaker 3: can't really remember. So we trained for like two years,
- 50:15Speaker 3: and at this point in the trending you wanted to
- 50:17Speaker 3: be a Seal. I stayed This is gonna be a
- 50:20Speaker 3: really quick story, but I'm sure you guys can relate.
- 50:22Speaker 3: I stayed up too late one fucking night and I
- 50:26Speaker 3: clicked on too many bad links and I saw stuff
- 50:29Speaker 3: that was happening out there, and I went to him.
- 50:32Speaker 3: I tried to talk to him about it, and he goes, Nick,
- 50:34Speaker 3: I know, man, it's it's a crazy world sometimes we're
- 50:36Speaker 3: living in and it ate me alive, man, Like for weeks.
- 50:39Speaker 3: I couldn't get that night out of my head, just
- 50:41Speaker 3: seeing that some of the stuff that goes on, and
- 50:43Speaker 3: I wanted to do something about it and and I
- 50:47Speaker 3: it was that night, and then I started to hook up,
- 50:49Speaker 3: like who actually goes and deals with some of these people,
- 50:51Speaker 3: and all the all the Google searches just can't see.
- 50:54Speaker 3: You'll see, you'll see, you'll see. I'm like, So I
- 50:56Speaker 3: went to a fucking recruiting office. I sat down with
- 51:00Speaker 3: the guy. I told him I wanted to be a SEAI.
- 51:02Speaker 3: He told me how, and then we had to train
- 51:03Speaker 3: for a couple of years to get that bid, and
- 51:04Speaker 3: we got it. And then I went into uh, you know,
- 51:07Speaker 3: I went into boot camp in like an eight hundred division.
- 51:10Speaker 3: It's like a sped up boot camp, a little bit harder.
- 51:13Speaker 3: It was pretty easy, though, you know, people don't quit there.
- 51:16Speaker 3: And then you go to pre Buds, which is like
- 51:18Speaker 3: a two or three month and you know what, it
- 51:19Speaker 3: was like kind of like a college football camp, like
- 51:22Speaker 3: you're just lifting weights, you're doing track sessions, all your
- 51:25Speaker 3: trainers are collegiate trainers. It was super cool. David Goggins,
- 51:29Speaker 3: he actually came. He actually came back to our class
- 51:32Speaker 3: and I remember him screaming in all of us before
- 51:34Speaker 3: we went on like some twenty mile fucking thing in
- 51:37Speaker 3: the snow, and he said, if you. If you don't
- 51:39Speaker 3: hang with him, then you're cut. I didn't hang with
- 51:42Speaker 3: him and I didn't get cut. But yeah, it's hard.
- 51:45Speaker 3: He's kind of hard to keep up with. But yeah,
- 51:47Speaker 3: then I went out to Buds and it lasted about
- 51:49Speaker 3: two weeks and I had I had a lot of
- 51:52Speaker 3: trouble with everything underwater. And they give you demerit chits.
- 51:56Speaker 3: A chit is like a like a blemish kind of
- 51:58Speaker 3: on your contract. So if you you if you're not
- 52:01Speaker 3: performing in certain areas and you're holding the group back,
- 52:04Speaker 3: you get a chit. And if you get hurting amount
- 52:06Speaker 3: of them, you got to go in front of the
- 52:07Speaker 3: board and like address that. And I was getting all
- 52:10Speaker 3: these chips for underwater stuff, and finally the chief just say, hey, listen, man,
- 52:13Speaker 3: like you know, if you're struggling with underwater shit, you
- 52:16Speaker 3: want to be a seal. That's a problem. Yeah. So
- 52:18Speaker 3: he told me to meet him, you know, super early
- 52:20Speaker 3: at the pool, just him and I, and he's gonna
- 52:22Speaker 3: give me another chance to pass this underwater stuff. I
- 52:24Speaker 3: couldn't do it. So he kicked me out.
- 52:26Speaker 2: What was the underwater stuff? Like, what what was the
- 52:28Speaker 2: underwater things that were so difficult?
- 52:30Speaker 3: They see. Yeah, they tie they tie your feet together,
- 52:34Speaker 3: tie your hands behind your back, and that's fine. You
- 52:36Speaker 3: got you gotta like bob up and down the bottom
- 52:38Speaker 3: of a twelve foot pool. Then you got to do
- 52:40Speaker 3: a fifty yard swim. And I was having a lot
- 52:43Speaker 3: of trouble with that. I couldn't go the whole way
- 52:45Speaker 3: because the way they make you do it is you
- 52:47Speaker 3: got to dive off into the deep end like pencil dive.
- 52:50Speaker 3: When your feet hit the bottom, you got to do
- 52:52Speaker 3: a front flip, no push off and go and you
- 52:55Speaker 3: got to go all the way without popping up. And
- 52:57Speaker 3: I could not fucking do that. I even passed out twice.
- 53:01Speaker 3: That's weird, super weird. Yeah, so you.
- 53:04Speaker 2: You pass out underwater and you're woking.
- 53:06Speaker 3: Up on the side of the fucking pool deck.
- 53:08Speaker 2: They just mouth and mount to fuck up, no shake
- 53:12Speaker 2: to fuck up. Yeah, because the cat's died during this stuff, right, No,
- 53:17Speaker 2: not during that part.
- 53:19Speaker 3: People people have people people have died in buds, but
- 53:22Speaker 3: I think they died from from different parts of me.
- 53:25Speaker 3: Like you know, hell, week is crazy. I never even
- 53:26Speaker 3: got to that point. That's like week four, I think,
- 53:30Speaker 3: or week five maybe what week were you like, all right,
- 53:33Speaker 3: this is it. The moment it began, I was like,
- 53:36Speaker 3: holy shit. Really, you start at three am. You go
- 53:39Speaker 3: to the Blacktop, and I mean they're getting you up
- 53:42Speaker 3: with LMG with blank rounds, because the inside of a
- 53:45Speaker 3: like a like a dorm room thing. We're all running
- 53:48Speaker 3: outside with our boots, our belts hanging. We get down
- 53:51Speaker 3: to that blacktop and there's just this fucking jacked instructor
- 53:55Speaker 3: up on the podium. Easy, all right, we're gonna take
- 53:57Speaker 3: it to a fucking workout. If anybody relax or anybody struggling,
- 54:01Speaker 3: you fucking butch your helmet over there, you ring the bell,
- 54:03Speaker 3: get the fuck out, and I'm like, holy shit, and
- 54:06Speaker 3: we and then we fucking begin. I mean you're getting
- 54:09Speaker 3: your dick kicked in for two hours, and you know,
- 54:10Speaker 3: periodically every ten to twenty minutes, they're sending you over
- 54:13Speaker 3: the sand dune, down the sand dune to the ocean,
- 54:16Speaker 3: and you gotta get wet, and then you get sand
- 54:18Speaker 3: all over you. If you come back with any spot
- 54:20Speaker 3: that doesn't have sand, you gotta go again. And it's
- 54:23Speaker 3: just this. The sand sticks to you, your skin chafs,
- 54:26Speaker 3: and it's just this experience that's meant to weigh on you.
- 54:31Speaker 3: It's just over time, man, it just gets harder and hard,
- 54:33Speaker 3: and then you see people quitting. And that's a shitty
- 54:35Speaker 3: part too. I remember that. I remember like being up.
- 54:39Speaker 3: You be up at three four am, and that Pacific
- 54:40Speaker 3: Ocean is fucking freezing, man, and we're sitting in there,
- 54:43Speaker 3: you know, there they got us all in the ocean.
- 54:44Speaker 3: We're freezing our fucking asses off. And we're seeing people quit.
- 54:47Speaker 3: They're standing up and just being there, going to a
- 54:50Speaker 3: van and they wrap them in a blanket and they
- 54:52Speaker 3: give them a hot coffee. It's okay, buddy, It's okay,
- 54:54Speaker 3: little buddy. You know you're like that coffee would small.
- 54:58Speaker 1: I was saying, You're like, man, this could be so
- 54:59Speaker 1: e yeah, just go get this blank I'm gonna say
- 55:04Speaker 1: something like no, cap bro.
- 55:05Speaker 3: I used to piss on myself to stay warm like
- 55:08Speaker 3: during those times, and I literally just start peeing for
- 55:10Speaker 3: a second. I feel warm, like okay, the fuck man.
- 55:13Speaker 3: Yeah that that That two weeks was probably the hardest
- 55:15Speaker 3: two weeks in my entire life. But I learned a
- 55:17Speaker 3: lot about myself. You know, I got some friends that
- 55:20Speaker 3: made it all the way through. I don't regret any
- 55:24Speaker 3: of it, you know.
- 55:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 55:25Speaker 2: And the thing too, is like you stay up, you
- 55:27Speaker 2: watch all these links that make you want to do this,
- 55:29Speaker 2: and you're like, I want to make a difference. Yeah,
- 55:30Speaker 2: going through those couple of weeks, whether it work it didn't.
- 55:32Speaker 2: Obviously didn't work out, but the guys that did work
- 55:34Speaker 2: out for you guys feel pretty good about the country.
- 55:36Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you know, those dogs are out there, seals
- 55:38Speaker 3: the ship they go through, and that's just the beginning.
- 55:41Speaker 3: You know, you have to get through buds, which I mean,
- 55:42Speaker 3: I'm I tapped in two weeks. These guys are going
- 55:45Speaker 3: through eight months of training, then s QT Seal Qualification
- 55:48Speaker 3: training where they put it all together up there in
- 55:50Speaker 3: Alaska for another eight months, and then you go pick
- 55:53Speaker 3: your job, like your specific job sniper, uh this or that,
- 55:58Speaker 3: and then and then you go to school for that
- 56:00Speaker 3: another I mean, bro, you are just you just dial man,
- 56:04Speaker 3: it's the machine.
- 56:05Speaker 1: And when you got cut, are you bummed? Are you
- 56:07Speaker 1: kind of relieved?
- 56:08Speaker 3: I remember calling him the only place you can get
- 56:10Speaker 3: service from is the top of the fucking building. I call,
- 56:13Speaker 3: Oh my god, one of the worst phone calls in
- 56:16Speaker 3: my life. Man, I called. I couldn't even get the
- 56:18Speaker 3: words out right.
- 56:19Speaker 4: It sucked works so hard. Man.
- 56:21Speaker 3: We did, we did. I just should have done more.
- 56:24Speaker 3: I should have done more preparation on the underwater stuff.
- 56:26Speaker 3: And I really fell short there, you know, And it
- 56:28Speaker 3: was just it was an area. And the thing about
- 56:30Speaker 3: going through seal training like that is those instructors, the
- 56:33Speaker 3: entire program is designed where they they're doing all that
- 56:36Speaker 3: on purpose, so as soon as they see the crack
- 56:38Speaker 3: in the armor, they just attack it. So so they
- 56:41Speaker 3: had my ass in the pool extra like just screwing
- 56:43Speaker 3: with me, you know what I mean, because they knew
- 56:45Speaker 3: that they're trying to break you. That's that's what they're doing.
- 56:49Speaker 3: And they did. But it makes you better man. Look
- 56:52Speaker 3: like I mean, I firmly believe that everybody should should
- 56:56Speaker 3: go through some of those things and then you appreciate
- 56:58Speaker 3: little things a lot more.
- 56:59Speaker 4: Man.
- 56:59Speaker 3: I mean, you know we super small like having your phone.
- 57:01Speaker 3: I mean, fuck, you know right, you never know it,
- 57:04Speaker 3: but it's crazy.
- 57:05Speaker 2: My senior year, we went to like San Diego and
- 57:07Speaker 2: we did like we went with the Navy seals and
- 57:08Speaker 2: did like three.
- 57:09Speaker 3: Four hours with them.
- 57:10Speaker 2: Ye do that, And I was like, at the end
- 57:12Speaker 2: of the three four hours, I was so I was done.
- 57:14Speaker 3: There's no way I.
- 57:15Speaker 2: Was gonna do anything doing. We were carrying the boat,
- 57:18Speaker 2: we were doing over, we were going over that same
- 57:19Speaker 2: hill into the water, rolling around the sand. They had
- 57:22Speaker 2: that little obstacle course making guys doing that. It was
- 57:26Speaker 2: it was nuts. Now Michigan, Michigan does like Team one
- 57:29Speaker 2: thirty one. We were Team one thirty four yea, because
- 57:32Speaker 2: we did the Navy seal thing and they jumped off
- 57:34Speaker 2: and we started doing that.
- 57:36Speaker 3: It's like all the seniors as my helmet as the boat.
- 57:40Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a dog.
- 57:44Speaker 1: That's me and pre buzz on my buddy Gardner, that's you.
- 57:47Speaker 3: No, that's I'm filling on asking what he's doing. He
- 57:50Speaker 3: had to clean all this ship off your belt and
- 57:53Speaker 3: there's even like a spec on it. In an old
- 57:54Speaker 3: class that's push up and they do that on purpose.
- 57:57Speaker 3: You know. It's like pee wee football, Like you know
- 57:58Speaker 3: when that kid did the cot on the team and
- 58:01Speaker 3: he's on the team and it sucks because his mom
- 58:03Speaker 3: is he's forcing him to do it. He doesn't want
- 58:05Speaker 3: to be there. He's got to play like eight plays
- 58:06Speaker 3: or eight plays. He gets killed every fucking time. And
- 58:08Speaker 3: they they get ten yards so everybody's just mad about
- 58:10Speaker 3: this one fucking kid right well, in practice, that same
- 58:13Speaker 3: kid because he just doesn't want to be there. Now
- 58:15Speaker 3: we all got to run around that tree it's two
- 58:17Speaker 3: miles away, because this kid can't keep up. They are
- 58:22Speaker 3: the best at that yo.
- 58:23Speaker 1: If we would have loafs at Nebraska my senior year,
- 58:27Speaker 1: like say I had three loafs, I would have to
- 58:30Speaker 1: sit on the chair while the rest of the linebacker
- 58:31Speaker 1: room would have to run three guests exactly, though, a
- 58:36Speaker 1: loaf is ultimately like not finishing to the ball, like
- 58:38Speaker 1: if you're not the way that they would do it
- 58:40Speaker 1: is if you're not on the screen at the end
- 58:42Speaker 1: of the play, or if you get out ran by
- 58:45Speaker 1: you know, if you're a dB and you get out
- 58:46Speaker 1: ran by a linebacker to the ball, or if you're
- 58:48Speaker 1: a linebacker you get out ran by a D lineman,
- 58:50Speaker 1: or you change your you change your tempo at all,
- 58:53Speaker 1: like you start to slow down because you think it
- 58:55Speaker 1: might be an incomplete best officer they catch and then
- 58:57Speaker 1: you start sprinting. That would be considered a loaf. So
- 59:00Speaker 1: if you get loafs, if it got bad enough, they
- 59:03Speaker 1: would make the person sit on the chair while the
- 59:05Speaker 1: rest of the linebacker room would run terrible feeling.
- 59:07Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you you, right, that feeling sets in.
- 59:10Speaker 3: Now everyone knows is your fault and you because everybody's.
- 59:14Speaker 2: Getting better for it's you when you're not getting punished
- 59:17Speaker 2: everybody else's It's the worst way to get punished in cold.
- 59:19Speaker 1: Absolutely, bro bought in.
- 59:21Speaker 3: Bought in.
- 59:22Speaker 1: It's this group called the Program where they're either former
- 59:25Speaker 1: seals or form or something in the military, and they
- 59:27Speaker 1: would come in and we just basically had forty eight
- 59:29Speaker 1: hours of this training to where you'd be there to
- 59:32Speaker 1: like pass midnight and then have to wake up before
- 59:34Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. And then you're in the pool
- 59:36Speaker 1: like at the Nebraska in the Nebraska swimming area, we'd
- 59:39Speaker 1: have full sweats on, having the tread water, and then
- 59:42Speaker 1: your teammates, like guys who couldn't swim, like they would
- 59:45Speaker 1: have to trust the guy next to them that we
- 59:47Speaker 1: would hold them and you would have to like take
- 59:50Speaker 1: off your hoodie and the other person would have to
- 59:51Speaker 1: put it on. You're like treading water. Having to put
- 59:53Speaker 1: all this stuff on it. Water was fucking nuts. Carrying
- 59:56Speaker 1: logs like all the detail like somebody left a cup
- 59:59Speaker 1: in the team meeting. They brought us all down, they
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: made us warm up, and then the guys motherfucked us
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: for leaving a cup out. That whole team would have
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: to They would have to run up. You have to
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: run up to the team meeting room as a group
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: and then run back once it was all cleared, and
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: they would give you like an assignment, like say I
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: was the guy from my group. They would tell me
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: all the instructions and then I would have to be
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: the one to explained it to the team. Nobody says
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: anything like even if you get an instruction wrong. You
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: go throughout the entire process like compete, do all this stuff,
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: and if you got something wrong, then they tell you
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: after the fact and then you got to basically redo it.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: It's fucking nuts, bro.
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: A lot of super common things across the board. You know,
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: Dad's the best part of being on a team, you know,
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Dad.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: For you when you got the phone call when he
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: got cut, Are you disappointed? Are you thinking he wasn't
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: put in the effort?
- 1:00:44Speaker 6: Yeah no, no, no, I wanted you to accomplish your goal,
- 1:00:47Speaker 6: but I wasn't disappointed. Listen, It's like the UFC and
- 1:00:49Speaker 6: tapping or not tapping. You didn't tap. You gave it
- 1:00:51Speaker 6: everything you had and you passed out under the pool twice.
- 1:00:55Speaker 6: I mean you didn't come up and breathe. I no regrets,
- 1:01:00Speaker 6: super proud.
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: Of the effort.
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: Looks Yeah, he's the most supportive father in the world, bro.
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: But he's he's chilled out quite a bit over the years, man,
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: that's for sure.
- 1:01:07Speaker 4: And answer.
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: It would be a lot different twenty years ago, No question.
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: My old man as well.
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: I mean he was pretty it's crazy, and yeah, like
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: now they're the best, and when you were going to father,
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: now you're so od When we were kids.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Man, I think there's like a there's a something as
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: a father coaching his son as he's getting older. You
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: want him to be good so bad that it's like
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: you're like, it's like squeezing the baby too tight. You're like, man,
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: I just want this kid to be the best version himself,
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: and I know he's fucking thinks up. And then immediately
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: when you become an adult, it's like all right, man,
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: like I did the best I could. I can no
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: longer tell you what to do.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: If you're on like a good track.
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're on a good track, but then as
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: soon as like the good track and like you're of
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: an age where you're essentially responsible, responsible for yourself, then
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: as a father you could sit back and be like, hey,
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: this is the product that helped make like it's up
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: to them.
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: That's got to be a great feeling. Yeah, to have
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: a son that's doing well.
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because my dad was pissed when I
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: didn't want to like wrestle, I quit after like six grades.
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: That's right, he wrestled that.
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: Yeah. My brother was a stud senior national champion, went
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: to Nebraska on scholarship, but he was a stud. So
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: we had like a wrestling family, older brother, a younger brother.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: I'm the oldest, so my younger brother, he was a
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: you know when it was it wasn't football season, Cody
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: was ultimately like the favorite because wrestling is like all
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: year round, like you know Cliff Keen kickoff, like the
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: Triple Crown going around when you're young. Cody was a monster.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: And my junior year I said that I would either
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: I said one like that I would play baseball because
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: my mom was pissed that I wouldn't play like sports
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: all year round because after football season, I would love to,
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: you know, whether it just hang with the boys, video
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: game stuff like that. And then when I didn't play baseball,
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: my parents basically said I either wrestled my junior year.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: My dad was like, you're either wrestling or you're grounded
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: for the entire winner. So ultimately, I wrestled at two fifteen,
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: at like two hundred pounds and just.
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: You know, gritted it out.
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: I hated every second of it, but my dad always
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: wanted me to wrestle because he's like, you know, it'll
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: be better, it'll it'll translate to football, which he's right,
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: it does. My pro agility went down like you live it.
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: You live it like you live this tall for three
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: months out of the year, just being in that fucking stance,
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: and I would get my ass whoop by this dude
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: named Jason went who was a scholarship cat to Cornell,
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: and like it was, you know, I hated it, but
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: my dad was always pissed. I didn't want to wrestle
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: every year because Cody was really good.
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: Did your dad do it?
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: No?
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: My dad didn't. He wish he had. He was like,
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: I mean, I wish they had wrestling.
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: You wish you would have done too, I would, Yeah,
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: but I was too.
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: He was a great basketball player.
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: To basketball.
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad's like, I wish they had wrestling back
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: when you know.
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: He was young. They didn't even have it. Did you
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: have it in school?
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: Of course you didn't, think. I think.
- 1:03:30Speaker 6: I think as a father, all you want to do
- 1:03:32Speaker 6: is make sure that they're trying to you know, they're
- 1:03:35Speaker 6: they're they're they're creating the opportunities for themselves, and like
- 1:03:38Speaker 6: by not wrestling, you're eliminating that possibility. You know, it's
- 1:03:41Speaker 6: like what are you doing?
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love this was open.
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: Just give it, give the kid an opportunity and then
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: go get it.
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta feel it.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: When I when I was a freshman in high school
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: in eighth grade, I got like a lot of trouble
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: and so my dada hate you're playing football because I
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: got to quit playing all sports. And it was like
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: middle of July and Arizona and this the head coach.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: They were doing like camp guy freshman through senior, like
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: that big camp for all the kids to kind of
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: like get acclimated, and we're like going around in groups,
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: and halfway through I go up to my dad and
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I'm done. I want to quit.
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: I'm over it.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: And my dad's like, all right, that's the head coach
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: of the varsity team. Go tell them you quit. I'll
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: meet you in the car. And I literally I looked
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: at that coach. My dad walked and sent in the car.
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: I was like, man, all right, so I finished the
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: entire day. I get in the car and my dad goes,
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: I just want you to know what it feels like
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: to be on the other side of the hill. If
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: you could just feel what that's like, I promise it's
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: going to work out. And I was like, damn, yeah,
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: it was awesome.
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: That's a good dad.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: That was a good moment. That's Chaparo High School though. Yeah,
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: that's when your boy was falling.
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: A man.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: Old Tommy timon right number four.
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: I need wrestling videos, dude, bro.
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: Growing up when my boys, when my friends would come
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: in the house, my dad would talk about the weekend
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: from wrestling back you want to watch them ape, and
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: then they'd be sitting there. We put a tap in
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: on the VCRD of that day recorded from being on
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: the mat. We just have to sit there and watch
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: our wrestling because my dad would like force people to
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: watch wrestling. He loved wrestling. You and my dad.
- 1:05:11Speaker 6: I got a I got a van out there with
- 1:05:12Speaker 6: four hundred thousand miles out of because me and his
- 1:05:14Speaker 6: little brother traveled the country and all those tournaments.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: Yeah, so you.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Know, Tulsa, Oklahoma.
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: Out there. He wants all three know.
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that was so fun, great, so fun. Yeah, Bro,
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: Cody was.
- 1:05:29Speaker 4: But then then then Steam would be in some wrestling tournament.
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: Nick would come to watch him, and half the stands
- 1:05:35Speaker 6: are going to get autographs from Nick and not watching
- 1:05:36Speaker 6: the damn wrestling.
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: And you're thinking, hey, that's a solid feeling that long
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: days wrestling.
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: Now, it's a long day. Long days are up at
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: two three and you're not done till eight.
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: But when you're bro is when your brother's good and
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: when they finally you know, the matchups finally start having.
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: You know, it's something different about that sport. I hope
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: we're talking aim a lot about football, you guys, you're
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: both NFL guys and stuff, but it's just wrestling.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: Bro.
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: When you watch your little brother go ahead like that, man,
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: like you look at the parent across and the brother across,
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: and there's just this there's this.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: Energy man, like our family versus we used to Yeah,
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: that definitely makes a person, you know him.
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: So like a lot of the parents never really had it,
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: but but there were a couple of parents that had
- 1:06:15Speaker 3: some ship to say, and we would we would we
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: would give him a look and we'd be like, hey, man,
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: you fucking be careful with the way, with the way
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: you're talking right now. It's like, even pinned this. I remember,
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: I remember you pinned this kid, and uh, the kid
- 1:06:27Speaker 3: got up and like pushed him. And Steven's super humble.
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: My little brother is a fucking tank. But you never
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: he's really nice guy. He's a big baby. You know,
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: he really want to hurt nobody, you know, so so
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: he's you know, all right, fine, cool, gonna be a dickhead.
- 1:06:39Speaker 3: He praised his hand and his fucking dad starts talking
- 1:06:42Speaker 3: to him. And I was a lunatic at the time. Man,
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: I was like full fucking gym, just and you can
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: see it on your fight anywhere. Man, So I start talking,
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: You're talking to him like that came here, motherfucking and
- 1:06:53Speaker 3: big thing in the middle of the mat. You know,
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: it's just crazy.
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: It was good times.
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: I was ready all the times right then.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: Yeah, wrestling.
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: It's a good seeing him go at it like that.
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: It's just different energy, you know.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: That's why.
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: Like when we go to the m m A Fights
- 1:07:07Speaker 3: and ship, could you imagine that, Like you guys play football,
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: but like, bro, imagine your job is to go fire
- 1:07:12Speaker 3: your families. Families with the family wives are there.
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: It's sports and one of the other wife is like
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: beat his ass.
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: You know. The crowd like like looking at that, like wow,
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: this is really it.
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: Once those gates closed, bro, in that octagon, like got
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: the one other person.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: That Alex pri that Alex Prayri fight that was supposed
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: to be McGregor Chandler. The face off he had with
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: that Croatian dude for five minutes. They just year at
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: each other. Eerie the best you have ever seen. Have
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: you met that guy, the Croatian cat?
- 1:07:42Speaker 3: Yeah? No, oh my god. I met Eerie with Pops,
- 1:07:46Speaker 3: you know. And he goes, Nick, nice to meet you man,
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: and he goes, uh, Paradigm Agency. I go that's your agency.
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: That's cool man. Yeah, well that's a Connor's thing, right,
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: and he goes, uh uh a dime ag that's right right,
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: really nice meeting.
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: Way man.
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: Oh there's the big dog.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: Miszoom wrestler.
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: There he is. We were just singing your prices is
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: that's when he won the state championship. I think something
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: like that.
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: Right back to back him, I'm him.
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: Yeah, ye remember when you won the States? Though it
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: was against that kid that was talking a little ship.
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: You had to put him down. His mom was crying.
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I was getting cussed out.
- 1:08:41Speaker 3: I was chanting to cry, cry, cry how bad you
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: beat him?
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: So it was a match.
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, whatever dogs are coming, remember heavyweight,
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: Like it's.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: Never oh yeah, we're to take that wins yeah or
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: yeah he gets a tossome over under getting over under
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: on somebody. Yeah, Like it's that kind of thing.
- 1:09:02Speaker 3: So, I don't know. Stevie was an animal, man. I remember,
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: like I remember, it was so weird when he was
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: a kid too, because he was the sweetest kid.
- 1:09:10Speaker 5: Man.
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: He's still, like I say, he's the nicest guy, you know,
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: and uh he's not like me, I'm a fucking dickhead,
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: but him, he's the nicest guy and you never know it.
- 1:09:19Speaker 3: And I remember when he started doing this ship. He
- 1:09:22Speaker 3: go to these tournaments and he he's this cute little kid.
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: This kid, my Grandma's there, you know, and we're all
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: hanging out and he's laying on grandma's you know. And
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: then he goes out there on the mat and he
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: just pin pin pin pin gold gold thing, you know,
- 1:09:36Speaker 3: And and he comes back and he puts he puts
- 1:09:39Speaker 3: his head on on grandma. You know, what the fuck
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: is going on? Man, figure it out. It's awesome, Grandma.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: We grew up in that era where it was like, uh,
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: the Palmers. Do you remember the Palmer Brothers out of
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: Ohio Logan Steiber, Yeah, Stevers, Yeah, the Steeverers. That was
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: like kind of Cody's Cody's a in generation. The Palmer Brothers.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: Their dad was an absolute psychopath. Like if they didn't tech,
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: if they weren't teching kids in Tulsa and everything else,
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: like they were getting motherfucked. On the side of the
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: Palmer Bros. They'd be I remember calling crying because he
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: was like the magazine but he was like the cat
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: who won everything, and they didn't necessarily came out there
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: as much.
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: Lance.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: Lance I think had a better career than Colin.
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: Was like arm bro.
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Bro, they were. That was a different family.
- 1:10:27Speaker 6: My parents they're not They're not doing the job. They're
- 1:10:30Speaker 6: just they're just look at Ferrari's parents. Yeah, right, craziness.
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's the wrestling world. It's a different culture.
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: Man, he's a little wild, a little wild.
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: I don't know anything about wrestling. Wrestled Will three times.
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: He's bodied me every single time. Really, body, When I
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: was a kid, When I was a kid, I saw
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: one video of some kid getting slammed and snapping his elbow,
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm never fucking doing that. That
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: sounds like the dumbest thing ever.
- 1:10:55Speaker 4: Do you have, Like the how much did you way
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: in high school?
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: Fucking you're looking at it too. Well is my senior
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: year I was like two fifty four to fifty five.
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: But before that was I think my freshman year of
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: high school, I was like maybe two hundred and two ten.
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: So freshman year, sophomore year, well, you put on about thirty.
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I just kind of, I guess. So if I
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: was like two ten fifteen every year with Mike Oh
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: he's talking about college. Yeah, college was Mike Barwis. That
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: was my coach for the first year. I played my
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: retrot freshman yet two eighty five and the big ten
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: I was like tiny holding on for dear life. I
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: played Adrian Claiborne, Ryan Carrigan, JJ Wall actually didn't play JJ,
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: but he was on the schedule.
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: Oh Man, Cameron Hayward, bro it was.
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: I remember my freshman year being like this is insane,
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: this is this is the Big ten, and it's like
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: first round pick, first round pick, first round pick. There's
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: a Buchane and a kid from Illinois.
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: Yeah, he was nice.
- 1:11:44Speaker 3: He was nice.
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: He was a first round pick. Played against him too.
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: I remember thinking of my when I graduated, I will
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: my sophomore be from my retro sophomore year to my
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: senior year. I was right around that three hundred and
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: then to senior three. Tend to wake up in the morning,
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: go to was It wasn't Peter with pizza hut. There
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: was a pizza hut like downstairs in the common area
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: in the morning. Well no, I would go in the
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: afternoon and get the h Alfredo pasta with chicken chicken
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: Alfredo pasta, put it in the fridge, and then wake
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: up at three in the morning, smack it, go back
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: to sleep. Wake up at five point thirty, go get
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: the workout, throw up, get a big shake, go to
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: class just constantly eating, dude, constantly.
- 1:12:25Speaker 4: There was nuts pizza.
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: Bell's Pizza for the boys.
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: Dude, you get a twenty four pack of Hams, you
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: get twenty a warm twenty four pack of Hams in
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: college and then a slice of Bell's pizza.
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: Can't beat it.
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: Yes, that was run across on Packard Street.
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, that was That's unrecognizable. Yeah, that's super tight. Yeah.
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: I mean Taylor's globe is like, it's got to be
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: a top three.
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: You've had a nice glow up. It's strange. It's strange
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: how the bigger dudes skinny out like when they get
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: done in the league. Because we we know, like Uncle Mark, ye,
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: you know, we have an uncle that played at U
- 1:13:12Speaker 3: of M. He was an offensives guard at tackle.
- 1:13:15Speaker 4: Yeah he was.
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: He was just the same thing.
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, love your old man.
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: He's great. You just see it.
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: In his eyes.
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: That's his dad that I know very well.
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, our dad trust me, trust me.
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: So when you get cut from the Seals, is that
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: you already knew. Plan B was going all into streaming.
- 1:13:41Speaker 3: I was trying different things, throwing darts at the board,
- 1:13:44Speaker 3: you know, because gaming hadn't really taken off at all,
- 1:13:49Speaker 3: you know, and we just we all knew that what
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: we kind of assumed that it just was never going
- 1:13:54Speaker 3: to And I was playing Gears Award at the time,
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: and it was on that MLG Pro circuit where you
- 1:13:59Speaker 3: could go to a bunch of big tournaments and you can,
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: you know, if you're good enough, you can win a
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: bunch of money and you might come out okay, you
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: know what I mean. And we were they kicked it
- 1:14:09Speaker 3: off the pro circuit, and that's when it was like
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: we wi we WIO, like we got to do something
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: with our life now, because there's nothing else out there, okay.
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: And that was when I did the Seal thing. And
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: then when we had failed, and when I had failed
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: and I came back, I was doing community college. I
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: was part time at a powerhouse gym and gaming just
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: with the boys, like for fun on the side, and
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: we didn't have anything to grind or get after. But
- 1:14:32Speaker 3: then Call of Duty had come out with Call of
- 1:14:35Speaker 3: Duty Ghosts, so I bought that, played that and I
- 1:14:38Speaker 3: started playing these little small tournaments on the side and
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: I'm streaming them, and my viewership starts going from like
- 1:14:44Speaker 3: twenty people to like eighty to like one hundred, and
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: then like four hundred, five hundred people. And now I'm
- 1:14:49Speaker 3: starting to have this little, this little swallow ray, and
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: I mean every night it's a fucking party. And I
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: got five hundred people coming in there. We're playing tournaments. Man,
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: we're locked in, We're doing the end. She drinks and
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: that that was the true beginning. I mean I had
- 1:15:03Speaker 3: been streaming before that, but it's only for fun. When
- 1:15:06Speaker 3: I had five hundred people in there, and the industry
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: was starting to turn a little bit, like there was
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: more fire on it, there was more cash coming in.
- 1:15:15Speaker 3: I was. I was in community college. Man, I just
- 1:15:17Speaker 3: did not I was just doing it to check the box,
- 1:15:19Speaker 3: like yeah, I'm trying to do something dead, you know, Yeah?
- 1:15:22Speaker 4: Right?
- 1:15:23Speaker 3: How it off? Yeah?
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: How did the industry start to evolve? Like was there
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: a platform that that came out at the time?
- 1:15:30Speaker 3: Was it?
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: Because I remember when I think it was like twenty eighteen,
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, when I felt like Roger staffold Katy Vacaro.
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: They started to like invest people started to.
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: Yo started a company for all gaming.
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I forget what it's called, but
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: educate us on how that.
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: Also Jack and the boys keep bringing up Tyler and
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: Tinja big big shout out to him, man, because I
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: will talk about him in a second. But let's let's
- 1:15:54Speaker 3: back up, because this was great for gaming, and it
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: catapulted gaming to where it is today. But gaming was
- 1:16:00Speaker 3: already on fire pre this. I mean in my opinion,
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: and I can give you some stats and you might
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: you might be like, damn, But when we were playing
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: Call of Duty, like I got that five hundred people
- 1:16:09Speaker 3: in the stream every night, you know, that was called
- 1:16:11Speaker 3: Duty Ghost and aw, what was happening was the technology
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: was getting better. So what we're doing here like the
- 1:16:17Speaker 3: podcast stuff like you remember the podcast Boom. Now everybody's
- 1:16:20Speaker 3: got the mics and we're all talking about ship like
- 1:16:23Speaker 3: kind of like that with gaming, like it started to
- 1:16:24Speaker 3: become super accessible to be a streamer to stream, so
- 1:16:27Speaker 3: everybody starts doing it, and then everybody starts trying to
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: create content. But only so many people can actually go
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: and play these games at a high like we gangs compete,
- 1:16:35Speaker 3: right like these these these lines that fucking.
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: Suck and have personality. I say that too.
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: A lot of the people that are so good are dark,
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: like talking to a fucking wall like there's.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: Is nothing there, right, they got that touch.
- 1:16:45Speaker 3: So I'm in this weird little area where I'm like, okay,
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: you know, I got I have a personality, but I'm
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: also fucking cracked, you know, so, so my viewership is
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: just going saying that it's dude, I mean, that was
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: a big a couple of years man, calldy ghosts into
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: AW no sorry, call to the Ghosts into uh yeah
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: into into AW into Black Ops three?
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: What's AW advanced to Warfare?
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: Stee right?
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: Yea, okay, oh yeah, okay, got you guys.
- 1:17:14Speaker 3: Just like new call Due games are coming out and
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: we're playing them, and the viewership is just growing because
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: we're just we're winning tournament after tournament, and it's getting
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: crazier and crazier, and it gets to this point where
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: you know, you got like two three, four, five thousand
- 1:17:28Speaker 3: people in the stream every night, and you got like
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: ten k people paying you X amount per month plus donations.
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: I mean, now you're scoop. You know, you're doing like
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: one hundred two hundred K and you don't even know
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: how how the fuck you got here. You're just a
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: kid that was playing games. You're good at them. You win,
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: you're passionate, so they're in the stream being entertained by it.
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: You're you're thankful for that. You're now I'm now I'm
- 1:17:49Speaker 3: finding ways to give back, like we're doing giveaways, we're
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: doing community tournaments. Like hey, listen, you might be a
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: smaller streamer without an audience. Okay, like a smaller podcast group.
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: You bring the small podcast guy on your podcast, and
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: your podcast gives him great exposure, right you just you
- 1:18:03Speaker 3: just hooked him up. So now I'm doing I'm doing
- 1:18:06Speaker 3: much like that. And then you know, at that point,
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: that's when Fortnite came out, and I mean I was
- 1:18:14Speaker 3: already averaging like five thousands, six thousand people and Fortnite drops.
- 1:18:18Speaker 3: I had never played a BR and a BR is
- 1:18:20Speaker 3: where like you know, the gas closes everybody for themselves,
- 1:18:24Speaker 3: whoever is left alive at the end, you know, it
- 1:18:26Speaker 3: gets to win. And I didn't play a BR because
- 1:18:29Speaker 3: you know, PUBG was out. H one was out, people
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: were playing that. But that wasn't for controller. I'm a controller.
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: I fucking can't play keyboard mouse. I'm just ass. But
- 1:18:38Speaker 3: before Nite had come out and I hopped on it
- 1:18:41Speaker 3: real early because I was just super excited to play
- 1:18:43Speaker 3: a br and dude, it was just it was it
- 1:18:48Speaker 3: was just a good decision in hindsight. I mean, the
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: game just fucking blew up. And Tyler's a big, a big,
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: you know, catalyst of that.
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: And I hate to sound dumb, Tyler's ninja.
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, he's a good buddy of mind me
- 1:19:00Speaker 3: him go way back.
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like one of the first streamers as from
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: a cat Like I don't I don't know anything about
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: the streaming game, but that's like one of the people
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: that were like the face of streaming right.
- 1:19:09Speaker 3: When he was the face of stream because of like
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: the streams that he did, like when this game took
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: off and took gaming to a whole new like just
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: a whole new he he was the guy in the
- 1:19:18Speaker 3: front that did that. But like, look he's up here.
- 1:19:22Speaker 3: All of us are down here. But I'm in this bitch, man.
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: I mean I was. I was told my own thing,
- 1:19:27Speaker 3: low ki like really nice. I mean that those those
- 1:19:30Speaker 3: those five thousand people were twenty k, thirdy k fucking
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: moving man, But he was up like one hundred k,
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: two hundred k streaming with Drake. That Drake stream had
- 1:19:39Speaker 3: like eight hundred thousand people in it or some shit
- 1:19:42Speaker 3: wild man, you know, those but those are those are
- 1:19:44Speaker 3: things we never thought we'd ever see.
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: When you're doing eight hundred k or three hundred k
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: people streaming, what kind of money is that?
- 1:19:50Speaker 3: I had two streams in the history of my career
- 1:19:53Speaker 3: that went over four hundred thousand viewers. And I mean, like,
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: you do you do eight hours of that with ads
- 1:19:59Speaker 3: and subs? I mean, do you're you're legitimately making in
- 1:20:04Speaker 3: a day, you're making like twenty to fifty k. It
- 1:20:07Speaker 3: just depends on how many ads you run, how many
- 1:20:09Speaker 3: people sub you know, man, yeah, insane? How did it?
- 1:20:13Speaker 3: We didn't know what to do. Bro. You guys might
- 1:20:16Speaker 3: understand because like you got it on the podcast thing
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: and like you know, you got to build it up
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: and you understand from that point. But like your people
- 1:20:25Speaker 3: and the people that tune into your poet like they
- 1:20:26Speaker 3: were there. You know, the football has been a thing
- 1:20:28Speaker 3: for a long time, like gaming is just it's like
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: some trailblazing shit Like these last ten years we've seen
- 1:20:34Speaker 3: gaming go from this to that, and it's like, really
- 1:20:37Speaker 3: it was just hard to digest and take it all
- 1:20:39Speaker 3: in and how to move like you got to you know,
- 1:20:42Speaker 3: you can't really go to anybody like, hey, how do
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: I do this? They don't fucking know.
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I want to ask about, Like how
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: as you're becoming a streamer or as you you know,
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: you're a video game guy, you love streaming, how did
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: you learn how to start building a business out of it?
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: Cause I assume that's really I assume that really hard
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: to do. Like again, you got you're probably gonna have
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: young kids now that want to know.
- 1:21:04Speaker 3: How to do it.
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: How did that start to develop for you and you're like, Okay,
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: I'm getting all this money, like building content, like having
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: the cameras.
- 1:21:12Speaker 3: It's gonna sound crazy, man, But I think when people
- 1:21:15Speaker 3: focus too much on the business side of things, even
- 1:21:17Speaker 3: maybe in podcasting too, Like you guys got your thing
- 1:21:19Speaker 3: to do here, you're with your homies. You guys are
- 1:21:21Speaker 3: all real passionate about this stuff.
- 1:21:22Speaker 4: You're on your.
- 1:21:23Speaker 3: Bus, you know, like this feels good, man, It feels
- 1:21:26Speaker 3: like grassroots, Like fucking let's go man. We started from here.
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: We're just fucking slinging it. You know, like when you
- 1:21:31Speaker 3: lose that, it can it can get weird. Quick. You know,
- 1:21:35Speaker 3: you got to remember that you were that kid playing
- 1:21:38Speaker 3: that call of duty in your room at two am,
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: and you got to hold onto that. So like the
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: creative business thing, like, yeah, I see where you're going,
- 1:21:46Speaker 3: and you're right, it is a business. But like my
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: first foot forward with anything is not truly ever about
- 1:21:52Speaker 3: the business. It's more so just like passion, you know,
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: like if I'm into something, then I'll do it, you know,
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: like I didn't come on this podcast for business. I
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: came on the podcast because I like you guys, and
- 1:22:01Speaker 3: I like football. I like our conversations, I like our relationships,
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: and I thought it'd be fun to have a conversation.
- 1:22:07Speaker 3: You know that. Now I'm not gonna be ignorant that
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: this could help my business. There could be people out
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: there that tune into this and that will now for
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: sure or back and forth. Right, So that's good and
- 1:22:16Speaker 3: you shouldn't ignore that, you know, you should put a
- 1:22:18Speaker 3: percentage of thought process into that. It's just you got
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: to be careful with how much you dump in there.
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: But as you're developing and people are running a sponsor,
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: are you the one having these conversations?
- 1:22:27Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I have a guy that takes
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: care of a lot of that stuff too, you know,
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: but we talk about it all the time, justin you know,
- 1:22:33Speaker 3: and he he's my agent. You know. We're real particular
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: about who we work with, especially nowadays, man, you know,
- 1:22:39Speaker 3: and I mean now that I'm a father, you know,
- 1:22:41Speaker 3: the companies that represent the people I want to do
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: business with. You know, it's it's not as open, you know.
- 1:22:47Speaker 3: I got I got a little kid. I gotta you know,
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta play my cards, right. I can't
- 1:22:51Speaker 3: be just partner up with anybody, you know. I got
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: to make sure it aligns with my views and how
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: I see things going, you know, the direction I want
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: to not only this country, but this planet to go in.
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: You know, right, I got another one. If you I
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: was gonna ask explain this Twitch universe you are you
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: currently banned on it?
- 1:23:11Speaker 4: No?
- 1:23:11Speaker 3: I did get banned though, for saying a derogatory term tranny.
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: It was tranny, you know, and true and truth be told,
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: I really did not know that I was ever used
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: as a derogatory term for those people. I really didn't,
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: But it's just you're you're you're so well spoken, and
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: then you were obviously in a hairy, like watery situation,
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: and you're like, I just don't you just want to
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: say the right thing here?
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: Yeah, you do. You know, I think I've stopped caring
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: as much about what people think about my opinions. You know,
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: I believe the things I believe, and if people ask me,
- 1:23:48Speaker 3: I'm going to share those things. I'm confident. And then
- 1:23:49Speaker 3: you know, I'm always eager to learn more and to
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: explore the other side of the coin. But at the
- 1:23:55Speaker 3: same time, I strongly disagree with all of that stuff.
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: You know, I think it's in inherently unhealthy and it's
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: a scary precedent to set going forward for young children
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: to say, hey, listen, if they're feeling a type of way,
- 1:24:06Speaker 3: they can do this, this, this, and that I believe,
- 1:24:08Speaker 3: you know, through the way I was raised and now
- 1:24:11Speaker 3: being a father myself, that there's other ways to combat
- 1:24:13Speaker 3: that that if at the least the first thing that
- 1:24:16Speaker 3: we should do is try to find a healthier alternative
- 1:24:20Speaker 3: than the things that we're doing. So, you know, I
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: spoke about that, and there's a lot of trans people
- 1:24:26Speaker 3: out there and LGB people that probably think that I
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: hate them, but I don't, you know, the real truth
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: is is that I feel bad. You know that they
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: feel the way they do, and I want what's best
- 1:24:38Speaker 3: for them. I just don't think that it's smart to
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: pedal and push the things that they're doing. Yeah, I
- 1:24:44Speaker 3: really don't. I think that that's bad, and it's been
- 1:24:46Speaker 3: proven to be bad. You know, when you make those
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: kinds of changes to your body and then you encourage
- 1:24:50Speaker 3: them at a young age, that is just I can't
- 1:24:53Speaker 3: believe that we live in a world that does that.
- 1:24:55Speaker 3: So I spoke out about that. I did use the
- 1:24:57Speaker 3: word tranning. I did not mean to be derogatory, but
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: make no mistake about it. I was talking shit like
- 1:25:06Speaker 3: I I don't want to sit up here, and I
- 1:25:08Speaker 3: was talking ship. But I'm giving it as good as
- 1:25:10Speaker 3: I get it, because you know, when you open up
- 1:25:12Speaker 3: that door. I mean a lot of these people, you know,
- 1:25:15Speaker 3: they live online, man, and they're about it online.
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going.
- 1:25:19Speaker 3: To ask Patrolling.
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: Did you did you become more passionate about this stance
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: once you had a kid?
- 1:25:26Speaker 3: Yeah? I became more passionate about the stance, and I
- 1:25:28Speaker 3: also became more comfortable speaking about it because, like I
- 1:25:31Speaker 3: said earlier, man, I think having a kid and being
- 1:25:33Speaker 3: a parent. A lot of times you hear parents say that, like,
- 1:25:36Speaker 3: you know, having a kid changes everything. I don't know
- 1:25:38Speaker 3: if I believe that, you know, I haven't been a
- 1:25:40Speaker 3: parent for too long, right, but I do believe that
- 1:25:43Speaker 3: having a kid changes the way you think about everything.
- 1:25:45Speaker 3: So and look, look, I kind of always thought this way.
- 1:25:49Speaker 3: I just I wasn't as passionate, right.
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: Right, because it's not necessarily affecting or has a potential
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: to affection.
- 1:25:54Speaker 3: Who cares, right, just keep it going. But I mean,
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: you know, you're seeing a lot more of it, and
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: you're seeing it become an issue in schools, especially here
- 1:26:01Speaker 3: in this country, and I just you know it if
- 1:26:04Speaker 3: and when, hopefully someday, we look back on this time
- 1:26:07Speaker 3: and it's a lot different. I would have been super
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: disappointed in myself that I never said anything right straight up,
- 1:26:13Speaker 3: that's what I thought about it. I spoke to my dad
- 1:26:15Speaker 3: about you know, dad, am I making the wrong decision?
- 1:26:17Speaker 3: And like you you know, business wise, yeah, I'm burning
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: all kinds of cash, but I'm set. I'm set. I'm good.
- 1:26:22Speaker 3: So that's also a different It's a little caveat in
- 1:26:25Speaker 3: the conversation too. You know, you might ask yourself, you know, hey, Nick,
- 1:26:29Speaker 3: should you have said something way sooner?
- 1:26:30Speaker 4: You know?
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: Did you hold out because of the bread? I mean,
- 1:26:32Speaker 3: the truth is is that I had a kid. That's
- 1:26:34Speaker 3: the truth, and that was a big turning point for me.
- 1:26:38Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:26:39Speaker 3: But it's definitely the combination of a lot of things. Man.
- 1:26:41Speaker 3: You know, either way, I have a community that strongly
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: believes in me. There's so many people out there that
- 1:26:46Speaker 3: agree with me on this topic as well. They're just
- 1:26:48Speaker 3: afraid to talk about it, speak about it because you
- 1:26:50Speaker 3: get in big trouble.
- 1:26:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:26:50Speaker 3: Really, you gotta hop around, man, I mean, how do
- 1:26:54Speaker 3: you guys feel about that? If you know?
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: I loved everything you say right there, I'm interested too.
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: Like you you refer to speaking your old man like,
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: I'm sure it's kind of difficult to try and maneuver
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: your words when you when you're like in a world
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: where it's just chat online. How are people thinking about me?
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: How are people feeling to where you get to a
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: point of freedom of like, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: let it ride. I'm gonna speak on this. I don't
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: I you you give less fucks about what people think?
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: Was that like a difficult balance when you finally like
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: kind of found that footing.
- 1:27:24Speaker 3: Yeah, man, like a big, a big, a big hurdle,
- 1:27:28Speaker 3: you know, because you don't want to make people mad,
- 1:27:31Speaker 3: like I don't want to wake up every day and
- 1:27:33Speaker 3: piss people off at the end of the day. The
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: guy that's tweeted me the paragraph when he's upset, like,
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: I don't want him to be mad or disappointed in me.
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: I'm sorry that he feels the way he does about me,
- 1:27:40Speaker 3: and I wish I could do something about it. And like,
- 1:27:41Speaker 3: if he could really just rip the truth out of
- 1:27:43Speaker 3: my fucking chest and put it in front of him,
- 1:27:45Speaker 3: he would see that I'm not this enemy unless he
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: wants that being taught to kids in school, than you
- 1:27:50Speaker 3: are my enemy, right, So you know, it's it's just
- 1:27:53Speaker 3: this thing. It's it's it's.
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: Logically everything you said I align with. Especially having kids,
- 1:28:00Speaker 2: you run of those issues with things being taught to
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: kids in school. And when it's like, hey, you're going
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: to school to learn the things you need to learn
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: at school, not the thing, not what you think the
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: kids should learn, but just like the math, the science,
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: the history, all those things, and then let me go,
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: let me go Hay and then and then it's up
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: to us as parents to go in now instill these
- 1:28:20Speaker 2: beliefs that we want. If you're a religious cat, you
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: want to instill religion, if you you know, all those things,
- 1:28:25Speaker 2: because it's very difficult for me to understand, like my
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: children's opinions are really like the opinions they have are
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: kind of the opinions I have and that they've heard,
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: and so they just feel that way as well. So
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: like it's it's a it's a it's just Harry. When
- 1:28:39Speaker 2: you start messing with kids and not allowing them to
- 1:28:41Speaker 2: develop and grow the way you want them to, it
- 1:28:43Speaker 2: just becomes more difficult. It it's more difficult to like
- 1:28:46Speaker 2: stand by this letter, right. I struggle with that all
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: the time.
- 1:28:49Speaker 3: Yeah, man, And I mean, you know, people people like
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: to say that, oh you throw you throw being a
- 1:28:54Speaker 3: parent around, you throw being a parent, you know what
- 1:28:56Speaker 3: I mean, Like anybody can have an opinion even if
- 1:28:58Speaker 3: they're not a parent. I agree with that. I just
- 1:29:00Speaker 3: think that there's a perspective that's gained after having your
- 1:29:03Speaker 3: own kid, which I'm sure you guys can agree with, right,
- 1:29:05Speaker 3: And it's just you know, you know how impressionable your
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: kids are, and you know how impressiable your kid is.
- 1:29:12Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:29:13Speaker 3: It's like I know as well, Like when I do
- 1:29:15Speaker 3: stuff in front of my little boy, you know, he
- 1:29:16Speaker 3: does it back and vice versa. Like we play all
- 1:29:19Speaker 3: the time, we hang out all the time, so we
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: know how impressionable these young minds are because we were
- 1:29:25Speaker 3: young too. Man Like it like, it's just not it
- 1:29:29Speaker 3: doesn't make sense to encourage these kinds of things when
- 1:29:33Speaker 3: we know how kids are.
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: When you get banned, is this somebody from Twitch reaching
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: out to you, letting letting you know?
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I said that. I said that, and they banned
- 1:29:41Speaker 3: me for before it is a week.
- 1:29:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:29:45Speaker 3: I found out when I was on the way to
- 1:29:46Speaker 3: see you guys in Vegas no ship. Yeah, it was
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: like three in the morning and we I woke up
- 1:29:52Speaker 3: to being banned. It was like, okay, you know I
- 1:29:53Speaker 3: didn't really care.
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: Man, is there not like a like some strike system
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: or anything.
- 1:29:57Speaker 3: It's just kind of they're usually is man, and I
- 1:30:00Speaker 3: don't have any strikes. But I will say, uh, they
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: take that very seriously at twitt, you know, like look,
- 1:30:07Speaker 3: I mean Twitch and just the gaming world in general
- 1:30:09Speaker 3: is very pro all that so I'm kind of like
- 1:30:11Speaker 3: a dinosaur. I'm off on my own, you know, but
- 1:30:15Speaker 3: you know my community. I was gonna say, your audience,
- 1:30:18Speaker 3: there are they. I think the majority of them aligne
- 1:30:21Speaker 3: as well, but but there are some that have not,
- 1:30:23Speaker 3: and they've spoken about that, you know. But it was that.
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: Now was that, and I'm sorry for being ignorant about this,
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: was that when you were like, we're gonna, uh, we're
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: gonna boycott call of duty.
- 1:30:32Speaker 3: I never called for a boycott.
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: That was the audience that people were doing what people do, right.
- 1:30:37Speaker 3: I never said like, hey, don't play god.
- 1:30:38Speaker 2: It has to make you feel good though, knowing your
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: audience is like that.
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's crazy. It's like the
- 1:30:43Speaker 3: internet though it lives for two weeks and then it dies.
- 1:30:45Speaker 3: It's weird. Yeah, it's very strange.
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: So that's another thing that people need to read, almost
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: like a far wines on the internet.
- 1:30:50Speaker 3: When things are.
- 1:30:51Speaker 2: Good, it's like, hey, this in a week, this will
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: be gone. When things are bad, you think the world's
- 1:30:54Speaker 2: coming out, it's like this is gonna be over twenty four.
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: It's gonna be something new there.
- 1:30:57Speaker 3: But something always something to it about, you know, or
- 1:31:01Speaker 3: be happy about it's it goes up and it goes down, man,
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: you know, right, but that was a big moment in
- 1:31:04Speaker 3: my career. Man. I mean, I've never been in trouble
- 1:31:07Speaker 3: like that. I've never been in heat like that, I
- 1:31:08Speaker 3: guess per se, you know. And uh, I think currently
- 1:31:13Speaker 3: today I feel real good about it all. Man. I'm
- 1:31:15Speaker 3: very proud of myself that I said what I said.
- 1:31:17Speaker 3: I know it's not an easy thing to say. And uh,
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: as time goes on, I'm getting I'm getting more and
- 1:31:22Speaker 3: more confident speaking on this. I've done a lot of research, man,
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: I really I've spoken to a lot of people on
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: both sides of it too. Man. I think ultimately we
- 1:31:29Speaker 3: all agree that we want that we want what's best
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: for people, you know, and me. You know, I'm I'm
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: a pretty healthy gamer. And that's where a lot of
- 1:31:37Speaker 3: this comes from. Man, It's just overall health, you know, Like,
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: do you take care of yourself? Is this taking care?
- 1:31:42Speaker 3: You know why I signed off on every fucking stream,
- 1:31:44Speaker 3: every YouTube video I do. I say, take care of yourself,
- 1:31:46Speaker 3: take care of each other piece of love.
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:31:48Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that take care of yourself? And is
- 1:31:51Speaker 3: that taking care of yourself, cutting off pieces of your body,
- 1:31:55Speaker 3: taking fucking drugs that are horrible for you, your mind
- 1:31:57Speaker 3: and your body. It's inherently, no matter how you spin it,
- 1:32:01Speaker 3: a very unhealthy thing to do, you know. And I
- 1:32:05Speaker 3: just can't. I can't sign off on that.
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: Right after the week, band, what's your relationship with Twitch?
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: Like?
- 1:32:10Speaker 3: Now, it's okay, you know, they understand there's going to
- 1:32:14Speaker 3: be different flavors on Twitch, you know. But at the
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: same time, man, if I had to guess, there's some
- 1:32:19Speaker 3: people in that office that really don't mess with me.
- 1:32:21Speaker 3: But it's like, look, look, I don't have any weird
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: shit in my heart about it, you know.
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate you speaking on it too.
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't mind.
- 1:32:28Speaker 1: Yeah, you do a good job.
- 1:32:30Speaker 3: No doubt.
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: There was the doctor and the notes here that shrim
- 1:32:33Speaker 2: get me doctor disrespect.
- 1:32:34Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough one right now too. Man, I'm
- 1:32:37Speaker 3: not gonna lie to you. It's tough.
- 1:32:38Speaker 2: And you obviously know him personally, good dude.
- 1:32:40Speaker 3: I know him. I know him. I know him personally,
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: I do. I mean we met in person twice briefly,
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: you know, and we've played a lot of games together
- 1:32:49Speaker 3: throughout the years, there's this people think that we're like
- 1:32:55Speaker 3: best friends. That's not true, you know. And then people
- 1:32:58Speaker 3: also say, oh, they only game a couple of times.
- 1:33:01Speaker 3: That's not true either. We're somewhere in the center. Like
- 1:33:03Speaker 3: when he text me, when you used to he would
- 1:33:05Speaker 3: text me in character, you know, like the doc does
- 1:33:08Speaker 3: what the doc wants. Man, I mean, that's the truth,
- 1:33:16Speaker 3: you know, and when he, uh, when all this stuff
- 1:33:18Speaker 3: came out about him over the past few months or whatever,
- 1:33:22Speaker 3: you know, it's been real hard because the internet hates, well,
- 1:33:27Speaker 3: the gaming world hates a guy like Doc. They hate
- 1:33:29Speaker 3: a guy like me. They hate a guy that represents family,
- 1:33:33Speaker 3: you know, being a dude's dude. You know, uh, you
- 1:33:37Speaker 3: got to dance to the beat of their drum and
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: we don't. We just don't. So he he you know
- 1:33:43Speaker 3: when he when that stuff came out, originally, everybody just
- 1:33:47Speaker 3: immediately jumped on board with canceling this guy. Let's get
- 1:33:51Speaker 3: this guy the funk out of here, man, stat I mean, everybody.
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: Did, and everybody who hates him. When you're ready to
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: see somebody fall and they start to fall, right you
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: sing narrative possible to put this.
- 1:34:03Speaker 3: You know, pedophilia and and underage stuff. I mean that's
- 1:34:06Speaker 3: a slam dunk, right, yeah, I mean so, so the
- 1:34:10Speaker 3: internet went crazy. But this was before we had not
- 1:34:12Speaker 3: a single ounce of proof. All we had was an
- 1:34:15Speaker 3: ex Twitch employee that had said that this was going on.
- 1:34:19Speaker 3: We didn't even have a comment from Doc. You know.
- 1:34:22Speaker 3: So people are on Nick, how come you don't text
- 1:34:24Speaker 3: him on the side, motherfucker. I fucking did. But he
- 1:34:27Speaker 3: couldn't tell me anything because he's bound in this big
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: suit with with Twitch, so you can't say anything. He
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: sent me a texting. I can't really say much, man,
- 1:34:36Speaker 3: I'm sorry. So that goes on. The Internet's canceling this guy.
- 1:34:42Speaker 3: Everybody because the trans stuff just happened. Everybody's like, oh, Nick,
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: how about this guy? This is your boy? Huh.
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: You have a strong stance here exactly.
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: I I go on, I say, listen, man, I understand
- 1:34:55Speaker 3: what people are saying. Let's wait till we get some facts.
- 1:34:58Speaker 3: Let's wait till we hear what's actually going on, and
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: then and then we'll make a decision. I was one
- 1:35:02Speaker 3: of the only ones that fucking did that. Everybody else
- 1:35:06Speaker 3: just jumped to conclusions.
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: Now to me, and let's put let's put a time
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: out real quick. The way you handled it maybe the
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: most logical way to handle it. Right, someone accuse somebody
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: or something, you would think instead of just being like
- 1:35:16Speaker 2: righte judicial system and it's and I could be I
- 1:35:21Speaker 2: could be talking out of my ass right now because
- 1:35:23Speaker 2: I actually don't even know the full context of the
- 1:35:25Speaker 2: situation with doctor disrespect. But any of these things you
- 1:35:29Speaker 2: look at and you're like, all right, Like we talked
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: about de Shan Watson earlier. One thing comes out like,
- 1:35:34Speaker 2: let's get the facts. The one comes out you're like,
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: all right, let's get the facts. We start rolling down
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: a little bit hill, like all right, now we understand
- 1:35:41Speaker 2: now the doctor's that. So I want to say, like
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: that is a great logical way of handling a situation
- 1:35:46Speaker 2: like that when you're being thrust it into essentially something
- 1:35:48Speaker 2: that's not your business.
- 1:35:50Speaker 3: I mean, in any light, when somebody says that a
- 1:35:52Speaker 3: person did something, you can't just throw them down the hill.
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: You got to prove it, man, It's gotta be something there, anything, something,
- 1:35:59Speaker 3: So I wait too, You're I got a bunch of
- 1:36:01Speaker 3: shit for waiting. Everyone's like, fuck you man, speak out
- 1:36:05Speaker 3: and your boy, what the fuck me? You know, I mean,
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: I got I got railed on social but I was
- 1:36:09Speaker 3: the only one that didn't, so I waited. Then he
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: comes out with a statement, do you guys know about
- 1:36:14Speaker 3: that tweet? So this guy comes out, tweet up, comes
- 1:36:17Speaker 3: out this tweet, and which is now deleted by the way,
- 1:36:20Speaker 3: it's his tweet of like a bunch of different paragraphs.
- 1:36:23Speaker 3: And it was the worst tweet that I have ever
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: seen from somebody in trouble. Not only was the original
- 1:36:30Speaker 3: the worst, Get this, This motherfucker edits that same tweet
- 1:36:35Speaker 3: like six times. He edits like key words out of
- 1:36:41Speaker 3: the tweet. But you can go back and see the
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: original tweet on the fucking thread. So there's no point
- 1:36:46Speaker 3: of editing out if you can just see it, right.
- 1:36:49Speaker 3: So he's just making this horrible. So this comes out me,
- 1:36:53Speaker 3: Tim Denny. We all get together. It's like, fuck, man,
- 1:36:56Speaker 3: I can't believe it. He and and he admits in
- 1:36:59Speaker 3: the tweet to talking to somebody inappropriately who was underage.
- 1:37:08Speaker 3: Now let's just make sure the whole bus. Let's get
- 1:37:11Speaker 3: a time out in the bus, time out, hard time out.
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: But a bunch of dudes in here respect we all
- 1:37:18Speaker 3: everybody agrees that if that's a case. It's done done
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: no matter how it. I mean, if you if you're
- 1:37:24Speaker 3: speaking inappropriately with a fucking with an underraged person, it's
- 1:37:29Speaker 3: done for me. But that's that, that's me done. I
- 1:37:33Speaker 3: don't care what the fuck it is. You guys agree,
- 1:37:35Speaker 3: everybody agree, agree, Anybody don't agree agreed, So like anybody
- 1:37:40Speaker 3: else would in this bus, I go on there. Everybody's pressed.
- 1:37:43Speaker 3: The whole world's pressing me, right because they can speak
- 1:37:46Speaker 3: out on trans stuff. But when his own boys with
- 1:37:47Speaker 3: the underrate, you're right, okay, go on to Twitter, I say, look,
- 1:37:51Speaker 3: facts came out basically, you know this sucks fucking ass.
- 1:37:55Speaker 3: We didn't know about this obviously, and we're gonna cut
- 1:37:59Speaker 3: ties and we don't condone or agree with any with
- 1:38:01Speaker 3: anything like this. They're not happy with that either, So
- 1:38:10Speaker 3: why are they not happy with it? Because like, oh,
- 1:38:12Speaker 3: so you can go hard on to leave the kids
- 1:38:14Speaker 3: a loanship, but when it's your boy, it's just like, oh,
- 1:38:17Speaker 3: you're not happy about it? What the fuck do you want? Man?
- 1:38:20Speaker 3: I said, I don't condone, it's disgusting and and we're
- 1:38:24Speaker 3: cutting ties. Done. So weeks go by. This guy deletes
- 1:38:30Speaker 3: that tweet and then says that it was all a
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: joke and he just was He put out that tweet
- 1:38:36Speaker 3: as bait to see who his real friends are. Oh yeah,
- 1:38:41Speaker 3: so so he got his community reactivates the old nick
- 1:38:46Speaker 3: you turn on your boy, yadada, YadA, YadA, you know,
- 1:38:48Speaker 3: and that's this whole fucking thing when like we know
- 1:38:50Speaker 3: that's not true. I mean, he sent a text to me,
- 1:38:52Speaker 3: Timmy and Clock as well, saying like, hey boys, I'm
- 1:38:55Speaker 3: sorry that this. I'm sorry that you guys are in this.
- 1:38:58Speaker 3: You know, I wish I wish it wasn't this way.
- 1:39:01Speaker 3: I apologize, you know, for that. And I mean he
- 1:39:04Speaker 3: never we don't really text like that like crazy, so
- 1:39:09Speaker 3: but putting that aside, man, like it's enough for me,
- 1:39:12Speaker 3: you know, to cut ties. And you know, the situation
- 1:39:15Speaker 3: sucks Dad in the bed that well, he feels some
- 1:39:19Speaker 3: type of way because we met him his wife and
- 1:39:21Speaker 3: his daughter at the super Bowl, you know what I mean.
- 1:39:23Speaker 3: And I got all of his fans on my dick, like, Yo,
- 1:39:26Speaker 3: what a fucking great friend you are. Yeah, bro, you
- 1:39:29Speaker 3: meet his wife and his daughter at the super Bowl
- 1:39:32Speaker 3: and then find out this forty four year old dude
- 1:39:35Speaker 3: is sleezing around with some seventeen year old, you know,
- 1:39:39Speaker 3: and we already know he cheated on his wife. He
- 1:39:40Speaker 3: went on the stream and admitted that, and it was
- 1:39:43Speaker 3: run the same timeline as all this stuff is coming out.
- 1:39:45Speaker 3: It's like, dude, you know, like, get fucking real, man.
- 1:39:47Speaker 3: You can't win with these people. That's what I'm realizing. Like,
- 1:39:50Speaker 3: the Internet is the Internet. It's gonna internet. You know,
- 1:39:54Speaker 3: you do what you do. You keep your fucking nose forward,
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: stay out of trouble, keep it popping. Real, be fucking real, man.
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: Too many motherfuckers are fake, not only in this world,
- 1:40:05Speaker 3: but especially in the gaming scene. Man. A lot of
- 1:40:07Speaker 3: two phase people. They pretend to care about things they
- 1:40:10Speaker 3: really don't care about. You know, this ship's fucking crazy
- 1:40:14Speaker 3: stock stuff. I mean, that's that's so fake. I mean, look,
- 1:40:17Speaker 3: the guy gets on stream every day in a fucking costume,
- 1:40:19Speaker 3: So I I guess it makes sense, you know, but
- 1:40:23Speaker 3: what the.
- 1:40:23Speaker 2: Fuck playing a character, playing character.
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: About being fake? He's he's he's fucking look at him. Look,
- 1:40:33Speaker 3: you know, look I'll throw I'll throw his community a bone,
- 1:40:36Speaker 3: you know, and I will say, and it shouldn't it
- 1:40:38Speaker 3: shouldn't go without I mean, it shouldn't go without saying, man,
- 1:40:42Speaker 3: I mean what he did for the streaming world and
- 1:40:43Speaker 3: gaming community as well. I mean, that's one of the
- 1:40:46Speaker 3: biggest entertainers online in the history of the industry forever.
- 1:40:51Speaker 3: I mean for fucking ever, his production, the work he
- 1:40:54Speaker 3: puts in his next heleble. But you just can't do
- 1:40:57Speaker 3: things like that, and and to say that your friends
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: are expected to stand by you as you make those
- 1:41:02Speaker 3: kinds of mistakes, and when these are the same friends
- 1:41:04Speaker 3: that got kids of their own. Man, I mean, it's
- 1:41:06Speaker 3: not like me and doct are like you two. We
- 1:41:08Speaker 3: don't live in the same town again, the same fucking bust.
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: No.
- 1:41:11Speaker 3: I mean, this guy's in California. I'm in Florida. We
- 1:41:13Speaker 3: play games together, but he's in a fucking costume and
- 1:41:15Speaker 3: speaks with an accent. I mean, we're not really best
- 1:41:19Speaker 3: buddies here, right right. People were mad about that too,
- 1:41:22Speaker 3: that was playing down the relationship, But that's the reality
- 1:41:24Speaker 3: of the situation.
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: Well, I think too. It's like, you know, up until
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: that point, it's like somebody in the streaming community, you
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: see him as like one of your boys, not like
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: best friends or nothing like that. But when something like
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: that comes out you're all the facts are now. You
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: ultimately want to believe the best and who you're kind
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: of seeing at first, and then when it's not, you're
- 1:41:41Speaker 1: kind of like, that fucking sucks. I feel kind of
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: dumb that I got looped into that and believe in
- 1:41:46Speaker 1: this and that. So yeah, it's just all around it is.
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: It's a shitty situation.
- 1:41:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean hard. You're not gonna win. That's the
- 1:41:52Speaker 3: truest part is that this situation is just shit because
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: he's claiming that Twitch was after him, and there really
- 1:41:58Speaker 3: might be some truth to that, like they didn't like
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: him and there was some contractual things that lined up
- 1:42:04Speaker 3: that makes sense with his But at the end of
- 1:42:06Speaker 3: the day, he admitted to doing what people were saying
- 1:42:10Speaker 3: that he did right, and then edited the tweet seven times,
- 1:42:13Speaker 3: and then the lead of the tweet, bro, we're done.
- 1:42:14Speaker 3: Say we're done. You know you're done.
- 1:42:16Speaker 2: Say we're done.
- 1:42:17Speaker 3: We're done. Man, that's it.
- 1:42:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough deal.
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: Man or Hot topics today on the bus Man.
- 1:42:22Speaker 2: Hot Tops the last twenty minutes Hot topics. We can
- 1:42:24Speaker 2: we can pivot?
- 1:42:24Speaker 3: What do you hold on? I want to know what
- 1:42:26Speaker 3: do you enjoy?
- 1:42:26Speaker 2: More sports gambling or playing cards, playing back.
- 1:42:30Speaker 3: Roun blackjack jack with all that is unreal. Man, it's
- 1:42:34Speaker 3: a fucking out there. No, No, we went up the first.
- 1:42:38Speaker 2: Well last time I saw you, you were no I
- 1:42:41Speaker 2: thought you murdered.
- 1:42:42Speaker 3: No, we did the first time. Yeah, both of us
- 1:42:45Speaker 3: went up there. Yes, second time tunnel chaos slaughtered tunnel.
- 1:42:49Speaker 2: Okay, you know who is one of the more impressive
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: human beings just putting their nutsack on the table. Is
- 1:42:56Speaker 2: that exposed Cody Man? He is a lunatic because me,
- 1:43:00Speaker 2: like you know.
- 1:43:01Speaker 3: Did he sends you there tonight with Lions?
- 1:43:03Speaker 5: Oh?
- 1:43:03Speaker 2: But the way he sports cables is crazy.
- 1:43:06Speaker 3: One hundred K on the Lions to win.
- 1:43:09Speaker 2: The Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure you wont eight hundred
- 1:43:11Speaker 2: thousand dollars on the Super Bowl betting the Chiefs.
- 1:43:13Speaker 3: No, that was the MMA fight. Then we all went
- 1:43:16Speaker 3: to that's right. There's a story behind that super quick
- 1:43:18Speaker 3: he put four zero. He was trying to do forty
- 1:43:23Speaker 3: k out of parlay and he added another zero, put
- 1:43:25Speaker 3: four hundred K on the parlay to win eight hundred
- 1:43:29Speaker 3: and he he hit it and then they wouldn't let
- 1:43:31Speaker 3: him change it, and we rode it out. We rode
- 1:43:33Speaker 3: it out and it won. Yeah, I'll never, I'll never.
- 1:43:38Speaker 2: Just insane the way he operates. And then when we're
- 1:43:40Speaker 2: when we're playing on the table too, like when I
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: play solo or I don't have I don't have Dana. Yeah,
- 1:43:45Speaker 2: my numbers as far as big cats go away way lord. Actually,
- 1:43:49Speaker 2: the biggest bets I was ever doing was you, me
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: and Cody that one night we mess we were out.
- 1:43:53Speaker 2: I just wanted to win ten k. Gets the pizza.
- 1:43:55Speaker 2: Couldn't fucking do it and get the pizza. Couldn't get
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: the pizza.
- 1:43:57Speaker 3: Pizza. We're just trying to get ten k. Then pizza break. Yeah,
- 1:44:00Speaker 3: two hands.
- 1:44:03Speaker 2: And they were sitting right behind us to just yes.
- 1:44:07Speaker 3: Good yes, good times, good times.
- 1:44:09Speaker 2: But this guy, Cody Man, he will go out there solo,
- 1:44:12Speaker 2: just him and his boys and play and I just
- 1:44:15Speaker 2: he's awesome, dude, too good guys.
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: Some people are just don't they just play hard million.
- 1:44:23Speaker 2: Well, I heard I heard the same thing about Aiden Ross,
- 1:44:25Speaker 2: the way he goes about his game playing. I've been
- 1:44:27Speaker 2: We've obviously been around him in that setting. I'm never
- 1:44:30Speaker 2: played with him, but apparently the kid puts massive amounts
- 1:44:33Speaker 2: of money x QC. I don't know who xx.
- 1:44:36Speaker 3: QC is one of the biggest streamers in the Can
- 1:44:38Speaker 3: you pull up x q C. If you saw his.
- 1:44:41Speaker 2: Face, you probably know the streaming, the follow me around
- 1:44:44Speaker 2: streaming thing. I just I haven't fully wrapped my head
- 1:44:46Speaker 2: around that.
- 1:44:47Speaker 3: What do you mean, Like, like, who's the neo then?
- 1:44:50Speaker 3: Is that Neo? Yeah? Neon?
- 1:44:53Speaker 2: Like he's he's constantly streaming himself, no disrespect. I don't
- 1:44:58Speaker 2: know why I had one interaction with Neon.
- 1:45:01Speaker 3: Dad's gone, he goes, he goes around. Yeah, he's out.
- 1:45:03Speaker 3: He goes around with bodyguards and purposely he's like purposely
- 1:45:07Speaker 3: provocative and then when it's ready to happen, the bodyguards
- 1:45:10Speaker 3: come in. That bothers me and he's that UFC really problematic.
- 1:45:15Speaker 2: The UFC fight we were all at last time. Apparently
- 1:45:17Speaker 2: he was like talking about you know, try Trump or
- 1:45:19Speaker 2: something like that and the Gate. Yeah, and I'm a
- 1:45:22Speaker 2: I could be fucking this whole thing up, but they
- 1:45:23Speaker 2: don't let him in.
- 1:45:24Speaker 3: Well, there's a new era of like content creation, and
- 1:45:28Speaker 3: you're seeing it like that's what you're seeing. It's this
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: like anything for some clicks and and clips, and like
- 1:45:35Speaker 3: when I say anything like he literally threatened Trump's life
- 1:45:37Speaker 3: outside of the UFC, like you can't.
- 1:45:40Speaker 2: They try to get in the UFC like on the
- 1:45:43Speaker 2: floor as well.
- 1:45:44Speaker 3: Right, Its a lot of that. Man.
- 1:45:46Speaker 2: I like this Neon guy. I met him one time,
- 1:45:49Speaker 2: shook his hand.
- 1:45:50Speaker 3: You met Neon, I believe so.
- 1:45:52Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve gave me a watch because me and Dana
- 1:45:55Speaker 2: got him out of a pinch one night we played.
- 1:45:57Speaker 2: We got his money back. The next day he gave
- 1:45:59Speaker 2: me a role X Neon, if I'm saying that correctly,
- 1:46:02Speaker 2: was there, Oh yeah, I was. Hey, he's a hey man.
- 1:46:05Speaker 2: Great to make you seem like a really nice guy.
- 1:46:06Speaker 2: Bull of them wipe my hands and I left. So
- 1:46:09Speaker 2: my one experience I've had fine, but I don't like.
- 1:46:13Speaker 2: I don't like how these cats are ripping around with
- 1:46:17Speaker 2: big black security guards.
- 1:46:19Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:46:19Speaker 2: And they're fucking essentially being the Internet out in the
- 1:46:24Speaker 2: real world, but with protection.
- 1:46:26Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of people spiced they want to
- 1:46:29Speaker 3: and then people want to try them.
- 1:46:30Speaker 2: Would all of a sudden the security guards come in.
- 1:46:31Speaker 3: It's important. It's important to note though, for your audience,
- 1:46:34Speaker 3: Aiden Ross is not like him. Yeah.
- 1:46:37Speaker 2: See here's what I say about Aiden. I've only been
- 1:46:39Speaker 2: around him a handful of times. We saw him in Miami,
- 1:46:43Speaker 2: and I've seen him a few times before, and I
- 1:46:44Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, we don't think we've officially met.
- 1:46:46Speaker 2: And he was real cool in that moment. The times
- 1:46:48Speaker 2: before that, he'd always kind of walk in the room
- 1:46:50Speaker 2: with his crew not really say anything. So I didn't
- 1:46:53Speaker 2: know what to think of him. But one time I
- 1:46:54Speaker 2: spoke to him, I was like, Oh, this kid seems
- 1:46:56Speaker 2: like he got it.
- 1:46:57Speaker 3: What's weird?
- 1:46:58Speaker 4: Man?
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: Like with NFL and like this kid, who's this kid
- 1:47:01Speaker 3: right here?
- 1:47:01Speaker 2: That the white kid, that's Jack.
- 1:47:03Speaker 3: He's one of the worst.
- 1:47:04Speaker 2: He does the same thing right, horrible.
- 1:47:07Speaker 3: They're both horrible. The point I was getting at though,
- 1:47:10Speaker 3: like pro ballplayers, you know, like you guys live in life.
- 1:47:13Speaker 3: It's really interesting in a way in a lot of ways.
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: But something that's kind of hard to deal with is
- 1:47:18Speaker 3: getting popular and getting fame so young, Like you're mad young,
- 1:47:22Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you got all this cash,
- 1:47:24Speaker 3: you got all his fame. How do you deal with it?
- 1:47:26Speaker 3: And you see guys in the NFL struggle with that
- 1:47:28Speaker 3: every year. Right Well, streaming is getting to the point
- 1:47:31Speaker 3: now where kids can do this like a pop off
- 1:47:33Speaker 3: stream can set a kid up for another huge year,
- 1:47:37Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, you're this kid, and
- 1:47:39Speaker 3: if you don't handle it right, if you don't have parents,
- 1:47:45Speaker 3: and he's just right there, like on the mat, I
- 1:47:48Speaker 3: don't care. You want to flex, and you flex. But
- 1:47:49Speaker 3: like it's just the things they do, like when they're
- 1:47:51Speaker 3: provocative on stream, they're going around there being disrespectful to
- 1:47:53Speaker 3: people that don't even deserve it. Like, you know, his
- 1:47:56Speaker 3: father should smack him in the head for that, you know,
- 1:47:59Speaker 3: because if I did that, he beat the hell out me.
- 1:48:01Speaker 3: If I did some shit like that, if I go
- 1:48:03Speaker 3: up and screaming like I saw some other guy fucking
- 1:48:05Speaker 3: screaming a little kid, like, you just can't. You don't
- 1:48:08Speaker 3: do certain things, you know what, great power comes great responsibility.
- 1:48:11Speaker 3: Spider Man, Yea, I love it. I just it's a
- 1:48:17Speaker 3: new age. It's a new thing. It's becoming pretty popular,
- 1:48:20Speaker 3: and these kids gotta be careful.
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: Man, he's got a massive I mean that kid seems
- 1:48:23Speaker 1: like a loser.
- 1:48:25Speaker 3: He is, man, he really is. It's the but you
- 1:48:28Speaker 3: know what, Like it's hard to fault him too though,
- 1:48:30Speaker 3: because now this success is so is so prevalent, so
- 1:48:33Speaker 3: he's in this mode and he's cooking. He's fucking cooking
- 1:48:36Speaker 3: right now. So so, now, how do you tell a
- 1:48:39Speaker 3: kid like that that's cooking and he's making all his bread,
- 1:48:42Speaker 3: putting it.
- 1:48:42Speaker 4: I'm sure he's.
- 1:48:43Speaker 3: Putting his mom and his dad on, you know what
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: I mean. I'm sure his parents are probably.
- 1:48:46Speaker 2: Proud of Him's got a good ecosystem around him.
- 1:48:47Speaker 3: Right, So how do you slow a kid like that down?
- 1:48:50Speaker 3: How do you say, hey, the way you're acting is ridiculous?
- 1:48:52Speaker 3: He go, what the fun are you talking about? Look at
- 1:48:53Speaker 3: this Ferrari right here? Yeah, I mean it's hard to
- 1:48:57Speaker 3: teach him.
- 1:48:58Speaker 1: It'll catch up to him at some point.
- 1:49:00Speaker 3: And it's ultimately like, how old is this kid? How
- 1:49:02Speaker 3: old is he? What was his name? Jack?
- 1:49:06Speaker 4: I think?
- 1:49:07Speaker 3: How old is this kid? Probably? I mean he's a
- 1:49:10Speaker 3: young man, eighteen, and I really don't know the things
- 1:49:13Speaker 3: you do when you're young, right, I look back at
- 1:49:15Speaker 3: I'm bro I would have Jacket were having this conversation, Uh, Jacket,
- 1:49:20Speaker 3: are having this conversation when we landed in Michigan.
- 1:49:22Speaker 2: Was you always think back, like, man, if I could
- 1:49:24Speaker 2: go back to high school football or college football with
- 1:49:27Speaker 2: my the mindset and the understanding I have now, Like, man,
- 1:49:30Speaker 2: that'd be so fucking sick. And then you reflect on
- 1:49:32Speaker 2: some of the dumb shit you didn't you're like, man,
- 1:49:34Speaker 2: if I just didn't do those things. The problem is
- 1:49:36Speaker 2: with these streamers who have their entire life on tape,
- 1:49:39Speaker 2: is they're going to be thirty forty years old and
- 1:49:41Speaker 2: look back, have kids try to teach them a lesson
- 1:49:44Speaker 2: and then be like, but dad, you see this right here.
- 1:49:46Speaker 3: That's a good point. But but you are right, it's
- 1:49:48Speaker 3: just part of life, right, being a dumb ass kid.
- 1:49:50Speaker 3: And we all were, no question. I don't want to
- 1:49:52Speaker 3: sit up here on this podcast, and it make no mistake. Man,
- 1:49:54Speaker 3: these guys all know that we were boneheads. But but
- 1:49:57Speaker 3: I think the point that I'm trying to make in
- 1:49:59Speaker 3: the point we should if you, if you're in a
- 1:50:02Speaker 3: position like this kid, is you are now obligated to
- 1:50:06Speaker 3: act a certain way. That's it. I don't care if
- 1:50:08Speaker 3: you're young, same you get an NFL, right, you gotta
- 1:50:12Speaker 3: flip it on. I don't care if your little last
- 1:50:14Speaker 3: kids still because these guys.
- 1:50:15Speaker 2: Are, man, they're so hard. Just this one video we're
- 1:50:17Speaker 2: watching right now, him popping the champagne with the girls.
- 1:50:20Speaker 3: If you're eighteen, nineteen years old, how do you not
- 1:50:23Speaker 3: think this kid will listen to this? He's gonna fucking
- 1:50:26Speaker 3: die laughing.
- 1:50:26Speaker 2: Yeah, retarded, these old freaking guys.
- 1:50:31Speaker 1: Sunday look back. Yeah, I mean it catches up to everybody. Yeah,
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: you can just tell this kid's never been in an
- 1:50:35Speaker 1: Oklahoma drill.
- 1:50:37Speaker 3: Hey you know what I mean? Yeah?
- 1:50:39Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you can just tell some of these kids who.
- 1:50:41Speaker 2: Were truly part of going up is you got to
- 1:50:44Speaker 2: get your ass beat a few times? Oh my, you
- 1:50:46Speaker 2: gotta get you what's the worst ass beat you've ever taken?
- 1:50:49Speaker 4: Oh?
- 1:50:49Speaker 3: God? Fighting school is young bro?
- 1:50:52Speaker 4: Man?
- 1:50:52Speaker 3: No, no fur year old?
- 1:50:55Speaker 2: Oh you got beat up by a fourteen year old
- 1:50:58Speaker 2: last month?
- 1:50:58Speaker 3: What happened? Man? I was nineteen. I was boxing and
- 1:51:02Speaker 3: I went to Cooper's gym in Detroit, really bad part
- 1:51:05Speaker 3: of Detroit, actually too man. And I'm a white boy
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: from Deerborn, and Deerborn's kind of like rich, he's got money,
- 1:51:12Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I pulled up I Toll,
- 1:51:13Speaker 3: the guy who just wanted to do boxing lessons. He's like,
- 1:51:15Speaker 3: all right, Well I started getting like decent, you know,
- 1:51:17Speaker 3: like I'm having some good some good training sessions. Whatever
- 1:51:20Speaker 3: I'm feeling myself, I start taking a couple of boxing fights,
- 1:51:23Speaker 3: amateur fights. They're really easy. Three rounds, two minute rounds.
- 1:51:25Speaker 3: You were a big fat headgear you barely even heal.
- 1:51:27Speaker 3: You're a little nervous at first. As soon as you
- 1:51:29Speaker 3: pop mouth at all. Just now you're flowing. Well. I
- 1:51:32Speaker 3: was doing pretty good. So I went over to Kronk Gym,
- 1:51:35Speaker 3: which is a famous gym on the same street as
- 1:51:37Speaker 3: Cooper's gym, and I went with my trainer, who primarily
- 1:51:41Speaker 3: spars there. He takes me the moment I walk into
- 1:51:43Speaker 3: a bunch of black dudes, they stopped me to let
- 1:51:46Speaker 3: all the other black guys go, and they make me
- 1:51:47Speaker 3: pay him twenty bucks come to the gym, So right
- 1:51:49Speaker 3: then I know it's fucking choked. I probably shouldn't fun,
- 1:51:52Speaker 3: but here's the twenty you know, pay him. I go
- 1:51:55Speaker 3: in and I put my hand wraps on and put
- 1:51:57Speaker 3: my shit on, and I went my trainer, Blue Blue
- 1:51:59Speaker 3: was a veessional boxer, great trainer. Name it blue Man
- 1:52:03Speaker 3: DeAndre Leandre is something. I forget his fucking name, but
- 1:52:08Speaker 3: he was a pro boxer out of crunk. Him and
- 1:52:11Speaker 3: three black dudes getting ready to spar in the big
- 1:52:13Speaker 3: fucking ring. So I'm thinking, I'm here to because I'm
- 1:52:16Speaker 3: getting good now. That's why they brought me. You know,
- 1:52:18Speaker 3: I'm fucking good now. So I'm doing my hand raps
- 1:52:20Speaker 3: and shit, and uh, long story short, they're like, yeah,
- 1:52:22Speaker 3: you're not sparking with us, man, you're sparking with them.
- 1:52:24Speaker 3: And they point over to like what would be like
- 1:52:26Speaker 3: a fucking kid corner and there's like little kids, and
- 1:52:29Speaker 3: there's this kid there who's like thirteen fourteen, and I thought,
- 1:52:33Speaker 3: I mean, I thought, I'm like, no way, a blue
- 1:52:35Speaker 3: blue come on. He's the little beast kid. And he goes, look,
- 1:52:37Speaker 3: you do good over there, and you can come over here.
- 1:52:39Speaker 3: I go. If I do good over there, I'm like,
- 1:52:41Speaker 3: all right, man, fuck you know, so I get so
- 1:52:46Speaker 3: so the bell goes on. Man I got, I got,
- 1:52:49Speaker 3: I got two hundred dollars gloves, I got my fucking
- 1:52:52Speaker 3: my boxing shoes, I got my fucking nice Grant headgear
- 1:52:56Speaker 3: and shit, man, all my mouth piece in this kid
- 1:52:58Speaker 3: had Haines socks. The white was gray. It was the
- 1:53:02Speaker 3: white and the gray, but it was all gray. They
- 1:53:03Speaker 3: were dirty as hell. The toe was coming through the
- 1:53:06Speaker 3: thing on the front and he had a head gear
- 1:53:08Speaker 3: that couldn't click with gloves no.
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: Hand wraps, and You're thinking they put me with this kid.
- 1:53:13Speaker 3: I'm a fuck this little mofucker up, you know what
- 1:53:14Speaker 3: I mean. So we started smarring. Shit, you know, this
- 1:53:17Speaker 3: kid hits me with a couple of jabs off the rib.
- 1:53:19Speaker 3: But dude, and I'm like, what the fuck I lock
- 1:53:22Speaker 3: in forget Holy shit, I'm trying and I'm thinking in
- 1:53:25Speaker 3: my head like what the fuck is going on? Man?
- 1:53:27Speaker 3: I'm trying and he's hit me, and uh, I remember
- 1:53:31Speaker 3: there was a point where I was up against the
- 1:53:32Speaker 3: wall because we weren't in the rings in the kid corner.
- 1:53:34Speaker 3: I'm up against the wall and he was hitting me.
- 1:53:37Speaker 3: And when he was hitting me, he was going, he
- 1:53:39Speaker 3: was going.
- 1:53:42Speaker 2: Like like.
- 1:53:46Speaker 3: He fucking hated me. Bro, I didn't even know he
- 1:53:48Speaker 3: fucking hates me. And I mean he's hit me, my rip.
- 1:53:50Speaker 3: He is beating his ship out of it. I slide
- 1:53:52Speaker 3: down the fucking wall like in real pain, and Blue
- 1:53:56Speaker 3: comes over and he goes, how you doing, man, And
- 1:53:59Speaker 3: I'm like dying And that was a real eye out
- 1:54:01Speaker 3: he moment for me. I'm like, remember I called you.
- 1:54:04Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I think I've known when the boxing thing, man,
- 1:54:06Speaker 3: he retired, you he retired. This kid went out to
- 1:54:10Speaker 3: be a gold Glove champion like four or five times
- 1:54:13Speaker 3: out of Detroit, and then he went to go fucking
- 1:54:15Speaker 3: He went uh Floyd's team in loss of Hagens. I
- 1:54:17Speaker 3: forgot this fucking kid's name. He was alright for a
- 1:54:19Speaker 3: little bit, but he dude, they pump him out over there. Man,
- 1:54:22Speaker 3: Really part of boxing is being hungry.
- 1:54:24Speaker 5: Man.
- 1:54:25Speaker 3: That kid had a different hunger in him than me.
- 1:54:29Speaker 3: Shots at the body I got.
- 1:54:31Speaker 2: I was nineteen, got fucked up by a fourteen year
- 1:54:33Speaker 2: old God the humbling experience, humbling.
- 1:54:37Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm a lot of things. Man. By keeping
- 1:54:38Speaker 3: a pancake with you always, I could be a douchebag.
- 1:54:42Speaker 6: Man.
- 1:54:42Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep real though. That was the worst. That
- 1:54:44Speaker 3: was the most degrading beatdown, the worst beatdown I've ever
- 1:54:47Speaker 3: had with my childhood buddy. When he picked that fight
- 1:54:50Speaker 3: with the two kids in high school, they beat the
- 1:54:52Speaker 3: ship out of us bad. Yeah, they they he my
- 1:54:56Speaker 3: my bigger buddy started. He was like you, he was
- 1:54:58Speaker 3: really big and I was really small. And he started
- 1:55:00Speaker 3: to fight with some kids that were older and I
- 1:55:02Speaker 3: had to fight because he's fighting, right. Yeah. Hey, he
- 1:55:04Speaker 3: started to lose, so I already knew I was losing,
- 1:55:07Speaker 3: so I skaved my best shot. Dude. They beat the
- 1:55:09Speaker 3: funk out of us. Hey, that's a huge move though,
- 1:55:11Speaker 3: and broke my horror bike. That spent four hundred dollars
- 1:55:14Speaker 3: cash on my silver horror bike. Oh my god. I
- 1:55:19Speaker 3: had pegs on the front end for your boy.
- 1:55:21Speaker 1: You knowing you're about to take with the pegs. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:55:25Speaker 1: two pegs on it in the.
- 1:55:27Speaker 2: Front and it really makes you a better human being
- 1:55:30Speaker 2: getting your ass need it, got to have it.
- 1:55:32Speaker 3: You can't got stupid ship and not pay for it,
- 1:55:34Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, no fucking doubt. Speaking of pain, remember
- 1:55:37Speaker 3: when you remember when you got in the fight after
- 1:55:39Speaker 3: the game. I wasn't gonna bring this up, but you
- 1:55:41Speaker 3: brought fighting. Remember when that guy fucking popped you. Dude,
- 1:55:43Speaker 3: I thought you were going to kill.
- 1:55:44Speaker 2: It during the game.
- 1:55:45Speaker 3: You have a Michigan state, No, bro, you were to
- 1:55:48Speaker 3: t you want a team, right, popped them Josh Norman.
- 1:55:53Speaker 1: So I popped him like, swung on him, like swung
- 1:55:55Speaker 1: on them.
- 1:55:56Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, you get the arrow, that's right the era
- 1:55:58Speaker 3: And then he swung on you.
- 1:55:59Speaker 2: Yeah, he tapped me in the back of the helmet.
- 1:56:02Speaker 3: That was you looked at I thought you were going
- 1:56:04Speaker 3: to eat him.
- 1:56:05Speaker 2: This this is the This is the funniest clip because
- 1:56:08Speaker 2: it's brought to me.
- 1:56:08Speaker 3: Everywhere I go.
- 1:56:09Speaker 4: I and he.
- 1:56:14Speaker 3: Be your greatest This is probably clip yours.
- 1:56:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that little pat the helmet, that one got me.
- 1:56:24Speaker 3: I was watching around You're about to do it.
- 1:56:27Speaker 2: Yeah, But the good thing is Ben was there because
- 1:56:30Speaker 2: I I don't know how to like stop once I
- 1:56:35Speaker 2: get kind of fire. We had a situation this weekend.
- 1:56:38Speaker 3: Who does that in UFC padan you were well, that
- 1:56:41Speaker 3: was that was Josh's that was his move.
- 1:56:43Speaker 5: The so nick I mean Josh Norman was also the
- 1:56:47Speaker 5: guy that Derek Henry stiff armed the life out of him,
- 1:56:50Speaker 5: and there was that viral photo of him like getting
- 1:56:52Speaker 5: flipped backwards a different team.
- 1:56:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that fourth and third and one or
- 1:56:58Speaker 2: second and four. Yeah, little little there, you got to
- 1:57:05Speaker 2: get the first on that buddy.
- 1:57:07Speaker 3: The first.
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: You see you see me come alive at the end
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: of this clip.
- 1:57:19Speaker 3: That game was nuts.
- 1:57:22Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh never had a good time with us. The
- 1:57:23Speaker 2: reason why I've told this a bunch of times. But
- 1:57:26Speaker 2: the reason why I went over to Josh at the
- 1:57:27Speaker 2: end of the game was because he was trying to
- 1:57:28Speaker 2: hurt Derek in a four minutes drill, you and that.
- 1:57:31Speaker 1: Put it down.
- 1:57:32Speaker 3: Just put it down with the boys.
- 1:57:33Speaker 1: Hell yeah you can have.
- 1:57:34Speaker 2: He says that you got to take that with you
- 1:57:36Speaker 2: when you leave.
- 1:57:36Speaker 3: Yeah, right it.
- 1:57:38Speaker 2: But getting your ass beat on a situation in middle school,
- 1:57:41Speaker 2: there was this kid I can't remember his name, but
- 1:57:44Speaker 2: I ended up like hitting him, knocking him out, and uh,
- 1:57:48Speaker 2: he's no, that was a different one and this kid,
- 1:57:51Speaker 2: so the kid goes to the teachers. He goes to
- 1:57:54Speaker 2: the teachers and he's and they were like, hey, what
- 1:57:55Speaker 2: happened blah blah. Was like, oh, nothing, a book fell
- 1:57:57Speaker 2: and hit me. Like he didn't snitch. So nothing really
- 1:58:00Speaker 2: came of it. I just went to class and then
- 1:58:03Speaker 2: in fitness class that we had this big loop is
- 1:58:05Speaker 2: desertating in middle school, we had this big loop you'd
- 1:58:07Speaker 2: go around like to warm up before like gym class,
- 1:58:10Speaker 2: but on like one part of the loop, there was
- 1:58:12Speaker 2: these bathrooms. You'd run around the loop. So this kid
- 1:58:15Speaker 2: was in the same class as me. I started on
- 1:58:17Speaker 2: the loop. He's behind me and I'm aware of him
- 1:58:19Speaker 2: back there because this happened like the day before. Turn
- 1:58:22Speaker 2: around that bathroom corner. Joey Latrell and three of his
- 1:58:24Speaker 2: friends were waiting for me and I kind of stopped
- 1:58:27Speaker 2: and they're like.
- 1:58:28Speaker 3: Are you ready?
- 1:58:29Speaker 4: And I was like, oh what?
- 1:58:30Speaker 2: And then one of them grabbed me put my arms
- 1:58:31Speaker 2: behind him, and this kid came and just beat the
- 1:58:33Speaker 2: fuck out of me for a minute and not like
- 1:58:37Speaker 2: an actual minute, but like.
- 1:58:38Speaker 3: It felt hurt.
- 1:58:39Speaker 2: Yeah. It was one of those where he was like
- 1:58:40Speaker 2: throwing a couple of shots in my stomach and I
- 1:58:42Speaker 2: was like, I'm kind of eating like a piece of
- 1:58:45Speaker 2: He was like, don't feel pain, and then he hit
- 1:58:47Speaker 2: me in the jaw and I was like, oh my god,
- 1:58:49Speaker 2: holy shit, like these are so fucking bad.
- 1:58:52Speaker 3: Please God make the stomach like they like let me
- 1:58:56Speaker 3: go or whatever.
- 1:58:56Speaker 2: And yeah, that was probably the worst I ever got
- 1:58:58Speaker 2: my ass beating in my life.
- 1:59:00Speaker 3: That was tough.
- 1:59:01Speaker 4: Question.
- 1:59:01Speaker 3: Are you gonna be the guy the guy that says
- 1:59:04Speaker 3: you never got your ass beat? I really haven't.
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been in a lot of fights. You can
- 1:59:08Speaker 1: tell you I'm not an asshole.
- 1:59:10Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not, no guy.
- 1:59:12Speaker 2: I'm surprised, bro, because when you get tired, you can
- 1:59:15Speaker 2: be grumpy.
- 1:59:17Speaker 1: Not like that. Cody gotten a couple. I mean, yeah,
- 1:59:23Speaker 1: you never like you guys know, you just don't want
- 1:59:25Speaker 1: to fuck with the wrestlers. Bro, I just cycled. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:59:29Speaker 1: I think all.
- 1:59:30Speaker 3: The sports and they have the highest uh excess and buds.
- 1:59:34Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there's no question. I'm pretty sure. You
- 1:59:37Speaker 2: go to a wrestling house like a Michigan. You go
- 1:59:39Speaker 2: to the wrestling house, no girls, all dudes, Bandana's on
- 1:59:42Speaker 2: top of the head, no shirts, playing pong for about
- 1:59:45Speaker 2: an hour and then everybody's in the lawn grappling going.
- 1:59:48Speaker 2: He's a little one hundred and forty pound catch like, hey,
- 1:59:50Speaker 2: you want to go? And I'm like, I guess.
- 1:59:52Speaker 4: Also Pretzel the worst?
- 1:59:57Speaker 1: Oh yeah, polar Bear. He was out there last year, Bro,
- 2:00:01Speaker 1: I mean doing both sports is insane. Who's this the
- 2:00:05Speaker 1: polar Bear?
- 2:00:06Speaker 2: Who's the polar Bear?
- 2:00:08Speaker 1: We interview him on the Spring Tour number zero? Oh
- 2:00:13Speaker 1: you got you got you too?
- 2:00:15Speaker 2: I had a couple of this podcast huge safe.
- 2:00:19Speaker 1: Yeah, but he he got done with football last year
- 2:00:22Speaker 1: and went right into wrestling.
- 2:00:23Speaker 3: Was he wrestled? How long is this pot? How long
- 2:00:25Speaker 3: is this possible thing? It was just like twenty.
- 2:00:27Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen, Yeah, twenty eighteen.
- 2:00:30Speaker 2: Was it twenty eighteen? We started twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen
- 2:00:33Speaker 2: when we met, that's right, Yeah, so twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, yeah, yes.
- 2:00:38Speaker 1: The summer of twenty nineteen.
- 2:00:40Speaker 3: How'd you guys decide to do this? Is this conversation
- 2:00:42Speaker 3: and the boom?
- 2:00:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is yeah.
- 2:00:44Speaker 2: I mean the way it kind of started was we
- 2:00:47Speaker 2: did a podcast together, the Official Titans Podcast, and we
- 2:00:50Speaker 2: kind of had some we had some nice litt chemistry.
- 2:00:52Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah yeah. Fire Will brought it to
- 2:00:55Speaker 3: Will really wanted.
- 2:00:56Speaker 2: To do it, and I was I was kind of like,
- 2:00:57Speaker 2: it's kind of lame.
- 2:00:58Speaker 1: Yet iways wanted to a pod Like back in Washington days,
- 2:01:02Speaker 1: I just thought to be sick because I was listening
- 2:01:03Speaker 1: to like Rogan and all those positive that went on,
- 2:01:06Speaker 1: and I just always thought to be sick because there
- 2:01:08Speaker 1: wasn't really any any pause, like JJ Reddick did it
- 2:01:11Speaker 1: with basketball, McAfee retires to do it with barstool. But
- 2:01:14Speaker 1: I just always thought it'd be cool, like all the
- 2:01:16Speaker 1: conversations that happened in the song and the cold tub
- 2:01:18Speaker 1: and everything else.
- 2:01:18Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, and.
- 2:01:20Speaker 1: Uh, fortunately talked Taylor into doing it.
- 2:01:22Speaker 3: Yeah, and then twenty nineteen, you guys kick off and
- 2:01:25Speaker 3: then Barstool brings you in.
- 2:01:27Speaker 1: Yeah, that happened. I was pretty signed with them in
- 2:01:30Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty. Yeah, we had varible comes on
- 2:01:33Speaker 1: and talks about cutting his dick off for a Super
- 2:01:35Speaker 1: Bowl that went viral w Jalen Ramsey talking about how
- 2:01:38Speaker 1: he would DM wide Receivers, their girl, their girls in college. Oh,
- 2:01:43Speaker 1: getting their head that the Jalen Ramsey one popped off
- 2:01:45Speaker 1: for us. Barstool DMed us in like July or August
- 2:01:49Speaker 1: and then flew out to sit and have a conversation
- 2:01:51Speaker 1: with us on one of his off days in training camp,
- 2:01:54Speaker 1: and then they wanted to stay in touch. We went
- 2:01:56Speaker 1: about our seasons that year. That's when I went out
- 2:01:58Speaker 1: to Oakland and then when we went out to the
- 2:02:00Speaker 1: Super Bowl in Miami in February twenty twenty, like, that's
- 2:02:03Speaker 1: when we locked everything up and signed a partnership with them.
- 2:02:05Speaker 1: Crazy or it was like two or three years at
- 2:02:08Speaker 1: the times, and then extended with them, what a year
- 2:02:11Speaker 1: or a couple of years.
- 2:02:12Speaker 3: Two it'll be two years and yeah, two years Barstool's
- 2:02:15Speaker 3: great man.
- 2:02:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:02:16Speaker 3: I mean they have a great group of guys. I've
- 2:02:17Speaker 3: been on PMT before. They're so they're so easy to
- 2:02:21Speaker 3: talk to.
- 2:02:21Speaker 1: They're like ww of media, all the different personalities, Like
- 2:02:26Speaker 1: they got all the shows they are.
- 2:02:28Speaker 3: They're pumping, They're fucking pumping. They really Now.
- 2:02:30Speaker 1: They got their h Q in Chicago, which is just
- 2:02:32Speaker 1: like a fantasy factory.
- 2:02:33Speaker 3: You've been out there New York Chicago. Yeah, that Jerry.
- 2:02:38Speaker 1: I've seen you go back and forme with Jerry Jersey. Jerry.
- 2:02:40Speaker 3: Yeah, we played some games together. Jerr's guy Fine tells
- 2:02:44Speaker 3: me that he used to be a crackhead. We were
- 2:02:45Speaker 3: like loading, remember that, we were loading into Call of Duty,
- 2:02:49Speaker 3: and he was just like, hey, hey, Nick, I used
- 2:02:51Speaker 3: to be a crackhead. You know. I was like, I like,
- 2:02:54Speaker 3: look at the camera. I was like what, you know.
- 2:02:56Speaker 3: I couldn't fucking believe it. It was the most nonchalant way
- 2:03:00Speaker 3: to tell me that ever. He's thought he was kidding,
- 2:03:02Speaker 3: but there's really something to joke around about Jerry, and
- 2:03:04Speaker 3: he stuck it though.
- 2:03:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:03:06Speaker 3: I like Jerry.
- 2:03:09Speaker 1: The bully.
- 2:03:09Speaker 2: Yeah, Jerry is a lot of funny guys.
- 2:03:12Speaker 3: And then they have that there's another homie two man.
- 2:03:16Speaker 3: We follow each other. Caleb guy. Yeah, conversation, they got
- 2:03:21Speaker 3: to use it. A good team, man, it's a good roster.
- 2:03:23Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of good guys.
- 2:03:24Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of somebody I don't like enjoy,
- 2:03:28Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure there's something.
- 2:03:30Speaker 2: If everything you deep enough, you'd find one.
- 2:03:33Speaker 3: There's so many, right, Yeah.
- 2:03:35Speaker 2: There's a lot offer personality of somebody that going to
- 2:03:37Speaker 2: the radar too.
- 2:03:37Speaker 3: There's Frank.
- 2:03:38Speaker 1: There's Frank the Tank.
- 2:03:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I've definitely seen him on there. Yeah. I hate
- 2:03:41Speaker 3: baseball and him would never get along. They don't think baseball.
- 2:03:44Speaker 3: You played though as a kid. Yeah, of course everybody.
- 2:03:46Speaker 2: That's like the number one American thing to do is
- 2:03:48Speaker 2: you got to play it one year at t ball.
- 2:03:50Speaker 2: That's like a bar mitzvah.
- 2:03:51Speaker 3: For an America. Have to have to got to play
- 2:03:53Speaker 3: a year. That's it. That's all you gotta do.
- 2:03:57Speaker 2: Let's twist the question. How long has this podcast been going?
- 2:04:00Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we could probably twist the.
- 2:04:02Speaker 3: Question whatever y'all want to do. Many I'm sorry about
- 2:04:05Speaker 3: being late.
- 2:04:06Speaker 4: Man. You good two v two one million dollar tournament
- 2:04:09Speaker 4: prizes on the line. Who is your partner and what
- 2:04:12Speaker 4: game are you picking?
- 2:04:14Speaker 5: Mmm?
- 2:04:16Speaker 3: I like that little one, Mili. That's a million bro.
- 2:04:22Speaker 3: All right, I gotta go Gears War. No, I gotta
- 2:04:26Speaker 3: go Gears of War. Man, that's where it all be
- 2:04:28Speaker 3: going for me. That's got that's cardboard checks, that's fucking
- 2:04:31Speaker 3: I was a tyrant on that game, Gears of War.
- 2:04:33Speaker 3: I go Gears of War two, and I'm going to
- 2:04:36Speaker 3: bring back my teammate, Predator, me and him. Predator is
- 2:04:41Speaker 3: the one, not the one the far right, but the
- 2:04:43Speaker 3: next one in with the weird little faux hawk. Things
- 2:04:45Speaker 3: got going on there. I don't know what he was thinking. Still,
- 2:04:49Speaker 3: I fucking hope not. But I'll go me and pred
- 2:04:54Speaker 3: two v. Two Gears of War two, and we're cashing
- 2:04:56Speaker 3: that fucking thing out easy money. If if there was
- 2:04:58Speaker 3: a line on that were the favorites by far, you're
- 2:05:02Speaker 3: the heavy favorite. We used to do that. That's what
- 2:05:04Speaker 3: we did. Yeah. Oh god, yeah, it's like riding a bike.
- 2:05:07Speaker 1: It wouldn't be hard to get back.
- 2:05:08Speaker 3: No, no, well, you know, give me a couple of days,
- 2:05:11Speaker 3: a couple of hours walk through the boys real quick.
- 2:05:14Speaker 3: Sure is great, man. We've done like three partnerships with them. Yeah,
- 2:05:18Speaker 3: they're all time they've sponsored like a couple of our
- 2:05:19Speaker 3: gauntlets and stuff. They're fucking awesome. Let's you rip it too. Really,
- 2:05:22Speaker 3: they don't care. I love that they don't care, because
- 2:05:24Speaker 3: when companies care too much, it like it just stricts
- 2:05:29Speaker 3: the creativity.
- 2:05:30Speaker 1: You can't say, and then you're not you're not actually
- 2:05:32Speaker 1: motivated to even it's the worst, wanting to continue to.
- 2:05:35Speaker 3: They're not them. They let you just go.
- 2:05:37Speaker 1: Here's here's a bonus question. Your friend gets knocked in
- 2:05:40Speaker 1: a two v two situation. Do you revive him or
- 2:05:42Speaker 1: push the enemy duo?
- 2:05:48Speaker 3: How weak are they are?
- 2:05:49Speaker 4: They weak?
- 2:05:49Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's say Predator goes down.
- 2:05:51Speaker 3: Yeah, Predator goes down to Well, if pred goes down
- 2:05:54Speaker 3: and we have a guy down as well and it's
- 2:05:55Speaker 3: just him versus me, I'm taking my one. Okay, I'm
- 2:05:58Speaker 3: not reviving. Ever, what if it's two, I'm gonna try
- 2:06:02Speaker 3: to do a lot of damage and get the reds
- 2:06:04Speaker 3: off quick if I can, like fucking hammer one and
- 2:06:06Speaker 3: then stick the reds real quick and then let me
- 2:06:08Speaker 3: get it sweet. If not two, be one, man, let's go.
- 2:06:12Speaker 3: I've done it before.
- 2:06:13Speaker 2: I have a senior eyeslight up to you. The passion
- 2:06:18Speaker 2: that we were.
- 2:06:19Speaker 3: I was at an MLG tournament. I was in the
- 2:06:20Speaker 3: championship twenty K was on the line. ME and three
- 2:06:22Speaker 3: of those guys that were in that picture, the two
- 2:06:24Speaker 3: on the right right here and the one on the
- 2:06:26Speaker 3: far left. We were playing for twenty K. It was
- 2:06:28Speaker 3: against my buddy as well, who we play against all
- 2:06:30Speaker 3: the fucking time, and he was really good. It was
- 2:06:32Speaker 3: me versus two of them on this pillar. And in
- 2:06:35Speaker 3: Gears of War, you know your three p so you
- 2:06:37Speaker 3: don't see the game from your gun, you see your
- 2:06:40Speaker 3: whole character, so you can take the camera and you
- 2:06:43Speaker 3: can see around things. And I'm on a big pillar
- 2:06:46Speaker 3: and they're both in front of me. It's me versus them, dude.
- 2:06:50Speaker 3: I worked that pillar like a stripper bro I was
- 2:06:52Speaker 3: on the left, on the right. I had him both weak.
- 2:06:55Speaker 3: I had him stuttering. They didn't know what the fucking
- 2:06:57Speaker 3: say or do, and I just shit on both of
- 2:06:59Speaker 3: them to keep us in it. And then we we
- 2:07:01Speaker 3: eventually came back and we won, and then we got
- 2:07:04Speaker 3: the whole tournament. And if I lost that to V won,
- 2:07:07Speaker 3: we would have been done. No ship, I remember, I
- 2:07:10Speaker 3: remember because we were fucking down big. I remember that
- 2:07:13Speaker 3: when I when I killed both of them, everybody turned
- 2:07:16Speaker 3: and they hooked at me all shit, good ship because
- 2:07:19Speaker 3: you know, we with the Gears Awards kind of like
- 2:07:22Speaker 3: S and D. So there's like a you know you
- 2:07:23Speaker 3: you went around, there's a big break. So we got
- 2:07:26Speaker 3: to win on the round. Everybody went crazy. I'm high
- 2:07:28Speaker 3: five of them, Ship. They all they look you see
- 2:07:30Speaker 3: look in their eyes. Everybody believed. It was like it
- 2:07:34Speaker 3: was like you're playing against a good football team and
- 2:07:36Speaker 3: they got the best player and your boy lit him
- 2:07:39Speaker 3: the fuck up helmet comes off. Yeah, well we can
- 2:07:42Speaker 3: fuck these guys up. Man, Right, That's what it was. Man,
- 2:07:45Speaker 3: That's what's gonna happen. Miche state. No one's gonna believe
- 2:07:50Speaker 3: we're not that hit. I hope, So, I hope you need.
- 2:07:53Speaker 2: To turn your fan card the way you've been talking.
- 2:07:55Speaker 3: I just I'm a sports gambler, you know.
- 2:07:57Speaker 4: I you know I'm gonna be.
- 2:07:59Speaker 3: Still be careful betting on the boys as a sports gamble.
- 2:08:01Speaker 2: You should, you shul plushuldn't been the team you like?
- 2:08:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought we were gonna keep it close. We
- 2:08:05Speaker 3: got fucking railed at home.
- 2:08:07Speaker 2: It was hard tough day for the Monday in Stride.
- 2:08:13Speaker 2: Totally different game, way, totally different game.
- 2:08:16Speaker 1: Did you go money line? Did you go money line
- 2:08:17Speaker 1: with Michigan Texas? Of course that is one that you go.
- 2:08:21Speaker 1: You believe in your squad, that's a that's.
- 2:08:22Speaker 3: A money line. Yeah, it got rail.
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: It would have been so over in like the second
- 2:08:28Speaker 1: it was.
- 2:08:29Speaker 2: The Michigan money line is going to be so huge
- 2:08:32Speaker 2: against the Hollow State. God, We're gonna make so much
- 2:08:34Speaker 2: money on that day.
- 2:08:35Speaker 3: I'm definitely hammering it.
- 2:08:37Speaker 4: Are you going to Vegas?
- 2:08:38Speaker 2: No?
- 2:08:38Speaker 3: I don't think sphere you're gonna go? Yeah?
- 2:08:41Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No. Your boys getting honored this week this
- 2:08:43Speaker 1: weekend high school?
- 2:08:45Speaker 3: Are you really congrats? Man? Congress?
- 2:08:49Speaker 1: Wave wave around, hold the room, wave around. Yeah, I'm
- 2:08:52Speaker 1: already in the Hall of Fame, just getting a little.
- 2:08:55Speaker 1: I think there's a sign, you know, first first ballot,
- 2:08:58Speaker 1: fish round right when they opened it up. But I
- 2:09:02Speaker 1: like sign put up. You know something I don't want
- 2:09:06Speaker 1: Compton Stadium. I don't want to say too much about it,
- 2:09:09Speaker 1: you guys know, I hate bragging.
- 2:09:10Speaker 3: Yeah this you you're having a month, bro.
- 2:09:13Speaker 1: I am having you see that museum that will Compton
- 2:09:16Speaker 1: Museum just opened last week.
- 2:09:18Speaker 3: I bet that I did see the music. It was
- 2:09:21Speaker 3: a great tour.
- 2:09:21Speaker 1: And last Thursday. Yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot
- 2:09:24Speaker 1: of memorabilia. The backstall in the bathroom is the will
- 2:09:27Speaker 1: Compton Museum at Barcel h Q in Chicago.
- 2:09:30Speaker 3: You gotta watch your pictures of him the toilet.
- 2:09:33Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be adding to it.
- 2:09:35Speaker 3: Will Comften shirts.
- 2:09:36Speaker 1: Hell yeah that is forever. But yeah, big month, big month.
- 2:09:41Speaker 1: Birthdays this month, Oh.
- 2:09:42Speaker 3: My god, I know what the fuck? Was? A great month?
- 2:09:46Speaker 3: Is a great month? I did, I did want I
- 2:09:49Speaker 3: did one of those. My ship was spinning, remember that, Lucy.
- 2:09:54Speaker 3: I put one up top and then I put another
- 2:09:56Speaker 3: one down low at the UFC. My ship was spinning.
- 2:10:01Speaker 3: Remember that.
- 2:10:02Speaker 1: Good time? It's a good time.
- 2:10:04Speaker 2: Yeah to your talk, Yeah.
- 2:10:06Speaker 1: Vintage gaming consoles. I love to pick this week.
- 2:10:08Speaker 2: Sure, I've already got mine.
- 2:10:11Speaker 1: Do we have a sponsor on tier Talk?
- 2:10:12Speaker 3: Are we good?
- 2:10:14Speaker 1: Are you familiar with tiar talk? No? Tier one, two, three?
- 2:10:17Speaker 1: If you got an honorable mention, go ahead and sling
- 2:10:19Speaker 1: that in there. Okay, but you'll start a tier three,
- 2:10:21Speaker 1: work your way up to one, but ultimately it's your
- 2:10:23Speaker 1: top three.
- 2:10:24Speaker 2: And also, don't just name it like paint us a picture.
- 2:10:26Speaker 1: Why is Tier three Tier three vintage gaming consoles?
- 2:10:32Speaker 3: You gotta start no way.
- 2:10:33Speaker 1: Okay, I kind of don't know yet.
- 2:10:35Speaker 2: Obviously we've already proven that I'm not a massive gamer. However,
- 2:10:39Speaker 2: as a child, I enjoyed plugging it in, sitting on
- 2:10:44Speaker 2: my ground, criss cross apple sauce and playing some games.
- 2:10:46Speaker 2: So this is what I'm gonna dive into the nostalgia category.
- 2:10:48Speaker 2: My Tier three is going to go to the og. Xbox. Now,
- 2:10:52Speaker 2: there's a lot of people like to but mounce back
- 2:10:53Speaker 2: and forth between Xbox and PlayStation. For whatever reason, because
- 2:10:56Speaker 2: of Halo, Xbox was my game. I just I really
- 2:10:59Speaker 2: enjoy what it was like. It was a mind that
- 2:11:02Speaker 2: experience to have Xbox there, you get the green and
- 2:11:06Speaker 2: the little thing pops up the x about really do
- 2:11:10Speaker 2: it put in your little time you're ready to go?
- 2:11:12Speaker 3: And then do you remember Xbox Connect? It was like
- 2:11:14Speaker 3: the first Xbox Live before.
- 2:11:16Speaker 2: Live they had the bar, right, no, okay, then no,
- 2:11:19Speaker 2: I don't that was all tell me that doesn't make
- 2:11:22Speaker 2: you get fired up.
- 2:11:23Speaker 3: That was also Connect though he's right, okay, maybe that's
- 2:11:26Speaker 3: a game. Okay, but Connect with a c It was
- 2:11:29Speaker 3: Xbox Live before Xbox live. That's how you know your crackhead.
- 2:11:32Speaker 3: If you know what that is, you were, you were crackhead. Sorry.
- 2:11:35Speaker 2: So that's my Tier three Xbox. My Tier two is
- 2:11:40Speaker 2: game Boy Color.
- 2:11:41Speaker 3: I think the game Boy. Is that a console?
- 2:11:45Speaker 2: Yeah it is, it's a pocket console. Okay, absolutely, double
- 2:11:48Speaker 2: a batteries and changes. The game had the purple Sea through.
- 2:11:52Speaker 2: You can see all the things, Pokemon, weird little lights,
- 2:11:55Speaker 2: you can see it, Pokemon.
- 2:11:57Speaker 3: Yellow link all that, Bro. That game.
- 2:12:00Speaker 2: You catch a little break in elementary school, you'd be
- 2:12:02Speaker 2: able to pull that thing out of your pocket, pop
- 2:12:03Speaker 2: it on real quick. Get that wire that was way
- 2:12:05Speaker 2: too short, Yeah, public school.
- 2:12:08Speaker 1: That's the light.
- 2:12:08Speaker 2: The light, yeah, the little light at night time. But
- 2:12:11Speaker 2: there was also a little cord that was probably five inches.
- 2:12:14Speaker 2: That's way more than five inches, like seven to eight
- 2:12:16Speaker 2: inches long, and you'd be able to plug it in.
- 2:12:19Speaker 2: Turn that cadabran into an alex exam because you can
- 2:12:22Speaker 2: evolve through trades.
- 2:12:23Speaker 3: Bro, you get that.
- 2:12:24Speaker 2: Thing done in the sand in the playground at elementary school,
- 2:12:28Speaker 2: you're showing all the boys to pull to sec what
- 2:12:29Speaker 2: you got. And then my Tier one is going to go,
- 2:12:32Speaker 2: this is my god tier and I've already mentioned it once.
- 2:12:34Speaker 2: That's gonna go to the Nintendo sixty four maybe the greatest.
- 2:12:38Speaker 2: Like we've all been in a place where the game's
- 2:12:41Speaker 2: not working. You have to pull it out and give
- 2:12:42Speaker 2: it the yeah, put it back in. Then it gets
- 2:12:45Speaker 2: a little bit older, so you have to go back
- 2:12:47Speaker 2: into the left. You have the JFK that thing the
- 2:12:49Speaker 2: way you have to move it just to get the
- 2:12:50Speaker 2: thing to turn on. Super Smash Brother Golden ID sixty
- 2:12:55Speaker 2: four though, huh yeah, I like those little things.
- 2:12:58Speaker 3: Yeah, they were great. They were weird dude, right, you
- 2:13:01Speaker 3: have to take that left out one. Mario sixty four.
- 2:13:05Speaker 3: It was just what was the greatest Ends sixty four game?
- 2:13:09Speaker 3: You think the best one for Super Smash, But if
- 2:13:14Speaker 3: you're playing Super Smash, great pick to.
- 2:13:16Speaker 2: Star Fox dude was also incredible.
- 2:13:18Speaker 3: Fox. Remember you could fight your boys in the fucking plane.
- 2:13:21Speaker 3: Remember Club Brett farv Nfelt Blitz remember that one, but
- 2:13:26Speaker 3: it's two thousands.
- 2:13:27Speaker 2: Blitz was people love, Yes, and the game always had
- 2:13:32Speaker 2: a way of like just equaling things out.
- 2:13:34Speaker 3: I feel like way better.
- 2:13:35Speaker 2: All of a sudden you'd have fumbles, interceptions, It should
- 2:13:37Speaker 2: just throw your way, just kept every zeld. I never
- 2:13:40Speaker 2: got into I don't know why.
- 2:13:42Speaker 3: It's one of those games where if you gave it
- 2:13:44Speaker 3: some patience, it's fucking incredible, really beautiful game. You go
- 2:13:47Speaker 3: back and play it now, so it's still it's still
- 2:13:48Speaker 3: kind of fun. My wife played this game, you know
- 2:13:51Speaker 3: about it?
- 2:13:52Speaker 2: The one you like have a little community of.
- 2:13:53Speaker 1: A garden and oh yeah, Harvest Moon Harvest, playing Starry
- 2:13:58Speaker 1: Valley game.
- 2:14:00Speaker 3: Make a little farm.
- 2:14:01Speaker 2: Oh yeah, run dude, you hit do hit a spin.
- 2:14:11Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great list, and sixty four is definitely yeah,
- 2:14:15Speaker 3: it's hard to beat. Yeah.
- 2:14:16Speaker 2: Oh so for Tier talk, now, we'll go around the
- 2:14:18Speaker 2: room and we'll do one word to describe how we
- 2:14:20Speaker 2: feel about the individual who just wants to tear talk.
- 2:14:22Speaker 3: Okay, amazing, thank you, incredible, and I'm blown away that
- 2:14:26Speaker 3: you knew all that. Thank you, Barrol, Barreroll, nostalgic.
- 2:14:34Speaker 1: Research solid. Oh yeah, I have no idea what you're
- 2:14:41Speaker 1: talking about.
- 2:14:45Speaker 2: All right, what's what do you all want to go?
- 2:14:47Speaker 1: I'll go kick it off, man. Game Boy really changed
- 2:14:52Speaker 1: the game for me. Game Boy is gonna be my
- 2:14:55Speaker 1: honorable mention. My Tier three is going to go to
- 2:14:58Speaker 1: my first love of video game, and that is the
- 2:15:00Speaker 1: Sega Genesis. I got Madden. It was either Mad ninety
- 2:15:04Speaker 1: five or Mad ninety six. That was the first console
- 2:15:06Speaker 1: I got for Christmas that my eyes just lit up
- 2:15:10Speaker 1: and I fell in love with video games. They would
- 2:15:13Speaker 1: have this combine that you could do where you're tapping
- 2:15:15Speaker 1: B and C. It's like this boxing where you're trying
- 2:15:17Speaker 1: to take out Evander Holyfield Mike Tyson, where you're battling him.
- 2:15:20Speaker 1: What was that? What was that one where you're trying
- 2:15:22Speaker 1: to your back's.
- 2:15:23Speaker 3: I remember the boxing game? It was incredible.
- 2:15:26Speaker 1: There they are a cross from in your little back
- 2:15:28Speaker 1: and you're kind of just dodging the whole time. It
- 2:15:30Speaker 1: might have been like Mike Tyson or something like.
- 2:15:32Speaker 3: I don't know, but it was incredible. I remember Ali Tyson,
- 2:15:34Speaker 3: holy Field.
- 2:15:35Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what was this Madden calls that ninety five
- 2:15:39Speaker 1: Madden ninety six. But that is when I felt love
- 2:15:43Speaker 1: fell in love with video games. My Tier two is
- 2:15:46Speaker 1: going to go to the PlayStation two. When you could
- 2:15:49Speaker 1: you know, that's when you had memory cards. I know
- 2:15:51Speaker 1: you had it on Xbox. I was never an original
- 2:15:53Speaker 1: Xbox I was a PlayStation two cat. I'm thinking to myself.
- 2:15:58Speaker 1: Game Day ninety seven, Game Day nine eight. Every year
- 2:16:01Speaker 1: on my birthday, I would get to skip school, go
- 2:16:03Speaker 1: to work with my dad. He'd take a half day.
- 2:16:05Speaker 1: Then we'd go to Toys r Us. I'd get the
- 2:16:07Speaker 1: latest edition of Game Day. We'd go home, and then
- 2:16:10Speaker 1: for the rest of time we would just play a
- 2:16:13Speaker 1: season with the Dallas Cowboys with each other. And then
- 2:16:17Speaker 1: also like PlayStation two is I was nice on WWE,
- 2:16:21Speaker 1: I was nice on. That's when n C Double A
- 2:16:23Speaker 1: I want to say it was like two thousand and four,
- 2:16:25Speaker 1: when the lights would start to shine off the helmet
- 2:16:27Speaker 1: and you just remembered the evolution of the video game
- 2:16:31Speaker 1: industry would start to take places, starting to get they
- 2:16:33Speaker 1: were starting to evolve. Yeah, yeah, n C Double A two,
- 2:16:40Speaker 1: Who's that Carson Palmer? And then also Grand Theft Auto
- 2:16:44Speaker 1: came out as an extricution, Yes, man Crash what.
- 2:16:49Speaker 3: Was it like?
- 2:16:50Speaker 1: Not Supercross, but it was like where they had them
- 2:16:52Speaker 1: both together Mix versus ATV versus eighteen Unleash, like just
- 2:16:56Speaker 1: phenomenal video games are in that generation. And my Tier
- 2:16:59Speaker 1: one I Air with Taylor the Ends the end sixty
- 2:17:02Speaker 1: four Harvest Moon, I lived and died by uh Pokemon
- 2:17:06Speaker 1: where you could plug that you could plug. You could
- 2:17:08Speaker 1: slide in the game. They had like a little Pokemon stadium.
- 2:17:11Speaker 1: Wait they take the picture Pokemon Stadium, that's Pokemon. But
- 2:17:15Speaker 1: you could also play in Pokemont Stadium. You could connect.
- 2:17:18Speaker 1: There's like something with memory on the car. You could
- 2:17:20Speaker 1: slide in your game boy. You were Pokemon Boy game
- 2:17:23Speaker 1: and you could face people with the squad you had
- 2:17:25Speaker 1: on the game boys. Pokemon Guy, Yeah, big Pokemon Guy,
- 2:17:28Speaker 1: massive cars won. I won a badge, what was the
- 2:17:31Speaker 1: very first one with it with brock and Onyx Pewter
- 2:17:34Speaker 1: Pewter City Badge, Boulder Badge. I won a Boulder badge
- 2:17:37Speaker 1: at a flea market back in the early days. Your
- 2:17:40Speaker 1: boy was nice.
- 2:17:41Speaker 3: Were a Pokemon Guy crack.
- 2:17:43Speaker 1: And then Double O seven my favorite. Oh it's great
- 2:17:46Speaker 1: Double seven. Double seven was like my favorite game of
- 2:17:49Speaker 1: this week this week. Talking about where you plug it
- 2:17:50Speaker 1: in Pokemon stadium.
- 2:17:51Speaker 3: Yeah, you could. You could fight other Pokemon that little
- 2:17:54Speaker 3: sixty four transfer pack.
- 2:17:55Speaker 1: Whatever you had on the game boy, like when he
- 2:17:57Speaker 1: said yellow, red, blue, whatever, you slide that in, you
- 2:18:00Speaker 1: get the roster you got.
- 2:18:01Speaker 3: On your game boy.
- 2:18:02Speaker 1: Play Pokemon Stadium.
- 2:18:06Speaker 3: You never that. Yeah, you could upload your Pokemon bro Yeah.
- 2:18:09Speaker 2: I remember is the Pokemon picture one.
- 2:18:11Speaker 3: I thought that was kind of I thought it was
- 2:18:12Speaker 3: kind of like the Pokemon snap.
- 2:18:13Speaker 1: Yeah photo you go around slow and try to take
- 2:18:16Speaker 1: you know, the rare pictures, right, my mom.
- 2:18:18Speaker 2: That I went through a little game like but that
- 2:18:22Speaker 2: I a little phase like a year ago where they
- 2:18:25Speaker 2: had these like little apps where people would be streaming
- 2:18:27Speaker 2: like opening games, opening Pokemon cards, and I bought a
- 2:18:31Speaker 2: few of them things, got myself some charge arts.
- 2:18:33Speaker 3: Dude, I had. We sold it for three hundred bucks.
- 2:18:36Speaker 2: Oh my god, I BET's were so much better card.
- 2:18:42Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I hated the poke he probably called them
- 2:18:45Speaker 1: pokey man.
- 2:18:46Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Pokemon yeah, Pokemon snap.
- 2:18:53Speaker 3: I never got on board my tear talk. Okay, okay, okay,
- 2:18:58Speaker 3: Tier three for me. I agree with words words for
- 2:19:02Speaker 3: one word. Sorry, okay, I'll start. I guess are you start?
- 2:19:07Speaker 3: Suit surprising man like you. I can't believe the Pokemon sorry.
- 2:19:15Speaker 2: Pokemon mm hmm.
- 2:19:18Speaker 3: Jolty on Oh wow, sports solid interesting. I didn't like it. Yeah,
- 2:19:32Speaker 3: you said it right too, All RIGHTO old school hyphenated
- 2:19:36Speaker 3: there you go. Also, you guys use hyphenated to get
- 2:19:38Speaker 3: around the one word. Yeah, make sure I do that
- 2:19:39Speaker 3: next time. Uh. Tier three probably the game Boy. You
- 2:19:44Speaker 3: guys bring up great points. I mean that was what
- 2:19:46Speaker 3: first got everybody into it. I used to get in
- 2:19:49Speaker 3: so much trouble playing that ship. You'd see the light
- 2:19:51Speaker 3: on from the crack of the door. He bust open
- 2:19:53Speaker 3: that door, and but what are you doing?
- 2:19:54Speaker 2: Man?
- 2:19:55Speaker 3: I had that little light on there, and I tried
- 2:19:56Speaker 3: to cover it with it with with the thing real quick,
- 2:19:58Speaker 3: you know, and never got away with it. Yeah, that
- 2:20:01Speaker 3: game Boy, but the see through game Boy, specifically the
- 2:20:03Speaker 3: one where I can see all the way that was
- 2:20:05Speaker 3: put together, the wires and the I just used to
- 2:20:07Speaker 3: love looking in that thing. Man. Yeah, it was cracked. Yeah, sorry.
- 2:20:12Speaker 3: And then tier tier two I'll probably go with I'll
- 2:20:19Speaker 3: probably go with the original Xbox because that's what got
- 2:20:22Speaker 3: me into competitive gaming, and that was when people would
- 2:20:25Speaker 3: download Xbox Connect on the PC was a program on
- 2:20:27Speaker 3: your PC, and then you could play people in Halo,
- 2:20:31Speaker 3: the first Halo around the World, and me and my
- 2:20:33Speaker 3: buddy would load up on two B two Halo one
- 2:20:36Speaker 3: and we beat Nash So I got real twisted at that.
- 2:20:39Speaker 3: And then that's Tier two. But Tier one the greatest
- 2:20:43Speaker 3: console of all time. I don't think it's debatable. It's
- 2:20:45Speaker 3: the three to sixty. You got Gears of War, Call
- 2:20:48Speaker 3: of Duty in Halo all on that console and arguably
- 2:20:52Speaker 3: all the best games from each from each one. Not
- 2:20:57Speaker 3: only that, but they had the best controller of any
- 2:21:00Speaker 3: of any controller in the history of gaming. The three
- 2:21:02Speaker 3: sixty controller was next level. And that was when you
- 2:21:06Speaker 3: They came out with this thing. You can make your
- 2:21:07Speaker 3: own avatar, like a character of yourself, and you could
- 2:21:10Speaker 3: customize it. You had like a bio. I put like
- 2:21:13Speaker 3: my placings in that. Then you had like a list
- 2:21:15Speaker 3: where you could add people to the list. I'd make
- 2:21:18Speaker 3: people pay to ad me because I was so good,
- 2:21:20Speaker 3: so he went on my list. It would be a flex.
- 2:21:22Speaker 3: You have me on the list, so you pay me
- 2:21:23Speaker 3: one hundred bucks, I'll add you for the whole year.
- 2:21:25Speaker 3: I was doing that scummy weirdship.
- 2:21:28Speaker 2: I was doing summy hey business man, business business.
- 2:21:32Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the dashboard man, look at your little
- 2:21:34Speaker 3: guy man. It's crazy, but yeah. Gears of War one,
- 2:21:36Speaker 3: Gears of War two, Call of Duty for the modern
- 2:21:40Speaker 3: warfare and the modern warfares, and then Halo Massive Halo
- 2:21:44Speaker 3: three came out on that one, and that's Halo two
- 2:21:47Speaker 3: and Halo three, I mean two K arguably the best
- 2:21:49Speaker 3: Halos two k's as well, Grand Theft Auto, I mean,
- 2:21:53Speaker 3: you name it. It was on the three sixty, and it's
- 2:21:55Speaker 3: just it took gaming to a whole other level in
- 2:21:57Speaker 3: my opinion, and the next Xbo didn't do it for me.
- 2:22:02Speaker 3: You know, it was like a bad equel, like the
- 2:22:05Speaker 3: Exist one. Yeah, the three sixty was way better than
- 2:22:08Speaker 3: the next one.
- 2:22:08Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I agree with you, okay with that
- 2:22:11Speaker 1: said my word horny.
- 2:22:13Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, pro.
- 2:22:21Speaker 1: Legendary, yeah, unreal the day in the.
- 2:22:24Speaker 3: Words, it's the winner, cash cracked.
- 2:22:30Speaker 4: And I agree, I finaded.
- 2:22:33Speaker 1: You're right about You're right about the three sixty, like
- 2:22:36Speaker 1: the hours put in on the three sixties.
- 2:22:38Speaker 3: I mean Red Dead one. That's where red no, no, no,
- 2:22:41Speaker 3: the first the first dead was Red Dead Revolver, right right, right.
- 2:22:47Speaker 1: But that was on three sixty. It might have been
- 2:22:49Speaker 1: on Xbox too, but I'm saying Red Dead Redemption one
- 2:22:52Speaker 1: came out of the three sixties like that series. To
- 2:22:58Speaker 1: throw back to the r But you're right, like the
- 2:23:01Speaker 1: Xbox three sixty is the greatest console of all.
- 2:23:03Speaker 3: Time and the controller underrated man like they started remember
- 2:23:07Speaker 3: the next one for the Xbox is fucking huge and weird.
- 2:23:10Speaker 3: But the three.
- 2:23:10Speaker 1: Still even those PlayStation motherfuckers though about it being better.
- 2:23:14Speaker 1: I was a guy who transitioned from PlayStation to to
- 2:23:16Speaker 1: three sixty. It took a little time, but once I did,
- 2:23:18Speaker 1: I saw.
- 2:23:18Speaker 3: The like I went from Xbox to PlayStation because competitive
- 2:23:22Speaker 3: call of duty did so we had to. We couldn't compete, right,
- 2:23:25Speaker 3: so kind of weird. I probably wouldn't stay at Xbox.
- 2:23:28Speaker 3: It just better, way better. Okay, Hey, this like the
- 2:23:34Speaker 3: tears Man.
- 2:23:34Speaker 1: This has been like the credible podcast.
- 2:23:37Speaker 3: It's been a great one. I appreciate you guys for
- 2:23:38Speaker 3: having me.
- 2:23:39Speaker 4: Man.
- 2:23:39Speaker 3: You know, the bus is real. The bus is real,
- 2:23:42Speaker 3: and it shakes, man, it moves. Yeah, when we get hyped.
- 2:23:44Speaker 1: This is an awesome pot Having your old man on
- 2:23:46Speaker 1: your brother. Yeah, having dad.
- 2:23:47Speaker 3: Chime man, shout out brother, you know what I mean.
- 2:23:50Speaker 3: But that's gonna be juice.
- 2:23:50Speaker 1: When we're on the wrestling segment. He's gonna be at
- 2:23:53Speaker 1: home because he watches every Wednesday, every Tuesday.
- 2:23:56Speaker 3: Your dad and his dad probably get a long there's
- 2:23:59Speaker 3: still a question.
- 2:24:00Speaker 2: I don't know a man that wouldn't get a lovel BI.
- 2:24:02Speaker 3: Make it out there.
- 2:24:03Speaker 1: You have to figure it out. You got to struggle
- 2:24:05Speaker 1: with him flying getting through the airport.
- 2:24:09Speaker 2: Can't go Why what's the deal?
- 2:24:11Speaker 3: I was gonna?
- 2:24:11Speaker 2: I want to bring that back up, wy, don't you.
- 2:24:13Speaker 3: I'm full swing right now at home and I'm streaming
- 2:24:16Speaker 3: a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot right now.
- 2:24:18Speaker 4: That's football?
- 2:24:20Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Yeah, going about to Vegas.
- 2:24:22Speaker 2: How many times now I've been out in two months?
- 2:24:24Speaker 3: Oh wow? I mentioned?
- 2:24:26Speaker 2: Okay, literally I was gonna fly out Thursday, like in
- 2:24:33Speaker 2: the morning. Will texted me, was like, you want to
- 2:24:36Speaker 2: do football show on Thursday? And I'm like you gotta
- 2:24:38Speaker 2: say yes. You can't just say no, just go to
- 2:24:40Speaker 2: Vegas five hours earlier, Like I gotta say yes to it.
- 2:24:43Speaker 3: So you have your podcast and you're also doing a
- 2:24:46Speaker 3: new show now.
- 2:24:46Speaker 1: The locker Room that is where we preview the week
- 2:24:49Speaker 1: a pro football that's barstool, Yeah, Bartols Pro football football show.
- 2:24:55Speaker 1: That's just strictly NFL. The locker Room. We do both
- 2:24:58Speaker 1: college football and the NFL. When we're gambling, we're making
- 2:25:01Speaker 1: our picks. Were previewing the weekend.
- 2:25:02Speaker 3: Talking all ball.
- 2:25:03Speaker 1: Take the top of this episode when we kind of
- 2:25:05Speaker 1: recap the weekend and just talked about our teams. Last
- 2:25:08Speaker 1: year we were try and cover a lot more. But
- 2:25:09Speaker 1: now we're putting everything into the locker room.
- 2:25:12Speaker 3: Like the sports stuff you're putting on there. Yeah cool, yeah,
- 2:25:15Speaker 3: very cool.
- 2:25:15Speaker 2: When we when we're done, we'll show you the studio,
- 2:25:18Speaker 2: the set that we made.
- 2:25:19Speaker 3: Yeah, you got turned off all lights so it's perfect here.
- 2:25:21Speaker 3: Ye sick you like it? But this is sweet?
- 2:25:24Speaker 6: Bro?
- 2:25:24Speaker 1: Thank you man. I know we've been trying for a minute,
- 2:25:28Speaker 1: but I appreciate you.
- 2:25:29Speaker 3: We appreciate you. I mean, Jack's my boy, the whole
- 2:25:36Speaker 3: crew man. You know you guys are you guys are
- 2:25:37Speaker 3: fucking awesome. Keep on doing your thing, man, best of
- 2:25:39Speaker 3: like the podcast stuff is cool, Man's grassroots turns me on.
- 2:25:45Speaker 2: Boy that boy right now, it's.
- 2:25:48Speaker 3: A it's a play of passion.
- 2:25:49Speaker 1: You play you play colle football twenty five?
- 2:25:52Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 2:25:52Speaker 4: All right?
- 2:25:53Speaker 3: You fair before you go?
- 2:25:56Speaker 2: You signed the summet?
- 2:25:56Speaker 3: Yeah? What is he? Number three? Are we loading this
- 2:26:01Speaker 3: thing up?
- 2:26:02Speaker 4: Who do we go? Right there?
- 2:26:04Speaker 1: You go. Appreciate you guys.
- 2:26:06Speaker 3: Saw that one.
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- 2:26:11Speaker 3: Love you guys. Some real ones up here, man, Real ones.