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Still Alive, Still Playing, Still Love You Nerds! · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Thank you much, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: But what's going on, everybody? I'm the one, the only,
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  Speaker 2: the W-O-O-K-I-E joined here. By two of the three misfits,
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  Speaker 2: we have the draft score of the draft score of
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: the draft score, also known as the choke show slash
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  Speaker 2: horse score.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all those things. Yeah, you remind me. I'll tell
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  Speaker 3: you why at Locals today. I definitely did.
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  Speaker 2: Are the horse score?
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  Speaker 3: No, it was more choke thing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Because you have.
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  Speaker 4: Well, now you just got to talk about this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I just have to talk about. All right. So.
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: so we're doing this thing where, uh, you know, my
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  Speaker 3: mom's like, Hey, we're gonna, you know, try some different
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  Speaker 3: rules for, um, uh, PV to see if you can, yeah. Prophecy, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, fine, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So, so I got my, you know, the one guy, uh,
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  Speaker 3: who's there. He's like, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We'll play.
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  Speaker 3: And, um, you want to do Archon, not as you
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  Speaker 3: can really do seal much really with PV. So, but whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I pull out my deck, I look at his list.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, that's not PV. So I'm using PV.
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  Speaker 3: He's not, but I'm like, all right, I guess it's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's got a, um, a house pipped Arcanometer. I'm like, Oh, okay. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember skies, but, um, I, I go through
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  Speaker 3: the list. I was like, okay, house pipped Arcanometer and
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  Speaker 3: he's got red line. So I have to, um, you know,
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  Speaker 3: worry about the red line, and I have to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: save my artifact control for the right moment. Well, um, uh, or,
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: you know, I've got Solok in my deck, but he
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  Speaker 3: also has artifact control, so I can't, you know, ultra counterattack. Anywho. Um,
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  Speaker 3: the we're going, we're playing, I'm, like, going to six, like,
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  Speaker 3: he keeps taking me off, like, we get, like, through
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  Speaker 3: his deck it's like towards the end and he plays
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  Speaker 3: against all flags sorry Brewers.
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  Speaker 2: Just tied it up everybody just so everybody knows this
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  Speaker 2: might be a shorter episode Brewers are in game for
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  Speaker 2: the NLCS get your brooms out it's time for a
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  Speaker 2: fucking sweep but uh sorry.
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  Speaker 4: If you just hear me if you just.
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  Speaker 2: Hear me just absolutely lose my mind at any given
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  Speaker 2: time it's more than likely about the Brewers I'm a
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  Speaker 2: huge I have been a Brewers fan So it's 1995.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell the story here in a little bit. But
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  Speaker 2: keep going, Drescore. I'm sorry to interrupt. You go. You go, bud.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he didn't write the punchline, too, which is
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  Speaker 3: the best part, right? So he plays against all flags,
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  Speaker 3: like takes me off check at six. I'm like, wait
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  Speaker 3: a second. I don't remember there being against all flags
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  Speaker 3: in that deck. So I look at it, and I'm like, oh, shit,
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  Speaker 3: there's no red line in this deck. I've been going
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  Speaker 3: to six the whole time. He's got all his capture.
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  Speaker 3: He's got no scaling ember control. I'm like, I've been
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  Speaker 3: playing around something that's not there, and it's like the
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  Speaker 3: end of the game.
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  Speaker 2: What deck list were you reading?
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  Speaker 4: No, that's what he's saying. He didn't read it.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't read the deck list. I looked at the
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  Speaker 3: deck list, and I was like, I remembered I need
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  Speaker 3: to worry about House Pipped Arcanometer, and I have to
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  Speaker 3: worry about it was against all flags, but my head,
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  Speaker 3: it was red line rotation. And I was like, he's
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  Speaker 3: got all this capture. I gotta be really careful. So
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  Speaker 3: I was playing like super tricky when I should just
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  Speaker 3: been bursting like crazy. And yeah, I lost because you know,
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  Speaker 3: I was playing wrong. Uh, so I did purge his house,
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  Speaker 3: picked our commander though. That felt good. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah but it didn't matter because i still
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  Speaker 2: lost wait a minute so what made you think there
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  Speaker 2: was red light rotation in this deck.
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  Speaker 3: Well it's when you read the uh archon card but
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  Speaker 3: you don't actually read the archon card because like you
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  Speaker 3: just play your local you just look at it real
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  Speaker 3: quick and you're like what i gotta worry about all
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  Speaker 3: right i gotta worry about this i gotta wrap that
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  Speaker 3: oh shit he's got okay that's what i gotta worry
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  Speaker 3: about whatever he you know and uh no.
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  Speaker 2: No no You just saw Skyborn, and you were like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Redline Rotation's in it, or what's it like? How does
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  Speaker 2: that work?
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  Speaker 3: I guess. I guess. I mean, the deck would be
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  Speaker 3: a lot better if it had it, but yeah, yeah. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, actually, I did learn an important lesson, because
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  Speaker 3: even if he actually had Redline Rotation, I probably should
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  Speaker 3: have just bursted like crazy all the time, right? Because,
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  Speaker 3: not like crazy, but I should have just gone. I
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  Speaker 3: should have just gone, because he had so much capture
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  Speaker 3: that At some point, he's really going to kill me
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  Speaker 3: one way or another if I can't clear his board.
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  Speaker 3: I just got to worry about clearing his board before
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  Speaker 3: he builds up too much.
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  Speaker 2: The lesson we learned today was when in doubt, blow
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  Speaker 2: your load.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Just rock and roll. Don't hold back. Yeah. Glad,
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  Speaker 3: glad I could offer this word of wisdom right here
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the show before we even introduced
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  Speaker 3: Senior Ewok.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Senior Ewok's here.
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  Speaker 5: Hello Key Forge community, glad to be here. Glad to
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  Speaker 5: be in story mode today.
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  Speaker 2: It is story mode today, because I'll give you guys
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: my brewer's story. For those of you, maybe you're not
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: a baseball fan, maybe you are. The Wookiee is a
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: big sports fan. I love my Packers, my Badgers, my Bucks,
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  Speaker 2: my Brewers. And for those of you who maybe remember,
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  Speaker 2: maybe don't, I've been a Brewers fan since 1995. I
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  Speaker 2: grew up kind of dirt poor, much like I am now.
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  Speaker 2: But I grew up dirt poor. We didn't have cable.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have nothing. So literally I would start after
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: the Simpsons because the Simpsons came on at 6 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: And the Brewers typically, when you are in the regular season,
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  Speaker 2: would come on about 7 o'clock, you know. So you
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  Speaker 2: get your half hour of Simpsons, you get like your
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  Speaker 2: 30-minute pregame show, and then you'd have your Brewers game.
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  Speaker 2: And there was really nothing else on at that point
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  Speaker 2: in time. There was nothing really else to watch. So
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  Speaker 2: I started watching the Brewers, and I became a big fan.
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  Speaker 2: And then I just, I've watched them ever since. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't watch all the games that's... I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to say it's the same. That's a lot of games.
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  Speaker 2: That's 162 games. That's a lot of games. I attempted
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  Speaker 2: that one year and I failed. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: say failed miserably. I did watch a good chunk. Watched
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: or listened to. Because sometimes when you play in the
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: middle of a season, you have a game at like
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  Speaker 2: 3 o'clock in the afternoon on a Tuesday for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to watch and or listen to. Sometimes it worked.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it didn't. but this is the year. They're up
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  Speaker 2: 3-0 on the Dodgers. They are.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they weren't doing so hot, and then they went
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  Speaker 2: in the bottom of the second. They gave up four runs,
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  Speaker 2: and now they've come all the way back to tie
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  Speaker 2: up the game. So I'm super excited. I was telling
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: the boys that I don't know. There may be a
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: point where I have to choose between seeing the World Series,
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  Speaker 2: which is like a lifelong dream of mine, going to
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  Speaker 2: Key Forge celebration. It's one of those things where choices
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  Speaker 2: might have to be made, and we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: But it is what it is. I'm super excited for it.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. I'm not going to get
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  Speaker 2: too excited. We still got one game to go. But
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: let's move into the Midwest Key Forge Open. This, I'm assuming,
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: December 5th. December 5th, 6th. I'm not really sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's 5th, 6th. So 5th, 6th of December. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to be happening over in Kirkwood, Missouri at the
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  Speaker 4: Nerd Merchant. So basically St. Louis area.
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  Speaker 5: And Nerd Merchant is putting on this year. So they're
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  Speaker 5: partnering it up.
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  Speaker 4: Different times. I know we've been looking at October in
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  Speaker 4: the past.
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  Speaker 5: But between the holidays, so between after KFC... And after
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  Speaker 5: Thanksgiving and before Christmas.
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  Speaker 4: Before Christmas.
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  Speaker 5: I know that's a busy time for people, but I
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  Speaker 5: think that it's... I mean, it actually.
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  Speaker 2: Works for myself. And a very money-taxing time. Good time
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  Speaker 2: to donate for charity.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking up Nerd Merchant right now. Okay, yep, I
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  Speaker 3: see it. Yeah, it's like the... Southwestern suburbs of St.
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  Speaker 4: Louis.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So this is the sixth annual Midwest Key Forge charity open.
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  Speaker 5: So if you've not seen, trophies are amazing. Prizes and
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  Speaker 5: swag is absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 4: So things definitely look forward to for this year.
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  Speaker 5: But I know with it being before KFC, that was
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  Speaker 5: kind of limiting me from being able to go. With
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  Speaker 5: it being in December, soccer's done. So Sheep and I
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  Speaker 5: were actually talking about being able to go to this one.
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  Speaker 5: We have another from the local that may be coming
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  Speaker 5: with us that you may hear of elsewhere.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll let that go.
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  Speaker 5: But I think it's pretty exciting to be able to
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  Speaker 5: have this as another event.
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  Speaker 4: And I actually think after KFC.
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  Speaker 5: Is done, after kind of the big world championship, having
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  Speaker 5: a fun event similar to like Neko being in February,
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  Speaker 5: you have some of these off season times where we
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  Speaker 5: can actually play Key Forge and have a ton of fun.
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  Speaker 4: I like the time.
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  Speaker 2: That was kind of the one I had my eyeballs
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  Speaker 2: on Neko. Cause I know you guys had a ton
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: of fun last year at Neko. Yeah. Um, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: get an opportunity to go and I'm kind of like,
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Oh man, maybe, maybe this is my shot to go
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  Speaker 2: to Neko this year. Um, I don't know how far
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  Speaker 2: of a drive Philadelphia is from me, but I could
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  Speaker 2: find out.
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  Speaker 3: That's like 11 or 12 hours.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, never mind. Maybe we won't be doing that.
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  Speaker 2: It's really that far? Damn.
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  Speaker 3: Milwaukee, let's see. From my house, Milwaukee is, let's see.
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  Speaker 5: Do, do, do, do, do, do.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, well, apparently if you walk, that's interesting. It's 360 hours.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly what I'll be doing.
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  Speaker 2: How did you know?
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: You have to swim. All right.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: I gotta, I gotta do it. It's like a, it's
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  Speaker 2: like a triathlon.
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  Speaker 3: Try again.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do driving.
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  Speaker 2: Zoom, zoom.
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  Speaker 3: So from my house to Michigan is 12 hours and
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  Speaker 3: 41 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Well, maybe that's not possible.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to save a small amount of time going
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  Speaker 3: to this place.
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  Speaker 5: Not much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a bit of a drive.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll look at the train or something. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: But NECA was the one I had my eyeballs on.
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  Speaker 2: And I know I know to Papa kind of like
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: cornered me at Tennessee and was like, you gotta come.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, well, you know, I do,
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  Speaker 2: I do enjoy my sealed events. So are you talking
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  Speaker 2: about Midwest key for Midwest key forge? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Cause that's the one he.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he, yeah, he's, he's had his hand in it.
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  Speaker 5: I think that it's for a great cause. The trophies
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  Speaker 5: are literally one of a kind and absolutely amazing. Were
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  Speaker 5: you there the first year wiki with us when we went,
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  Speaker 5: I thought, was.
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  Speaker 2: That the year it was held in Kmart? or okay
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: mark maybe i don't know it was like.
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  Speaker 3: A that's the i was there yeah that was.
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  Speaker 5: The first year yeah but i haven't been able to
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  Speaker 5: get back since then so i'm excited to be able
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  Speaker 5: to check it out so i did block it off
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  Speaker 5: on my calendar so hopefully i can see some it.
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  Speaker 2: Is a nice weekend event so like uh you know
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  Speaker 2: even though it is during the middle of like holiday
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  Speaker 2: season it is like one i could possibly like sneak
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: it because i'm assuming you guys are leaving after work
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  Speaker 2: is done on Friday. Yeah, we're going to leave after
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  Speaker 2: work on Friday night. So it's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: Friday night, go down, then we'll crash.
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  Speaker 3: Because St.
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  Speaker 2: Louis is only five hours away, so it's really not terrible.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's very possible that I make an appearance.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: I work retail unlike anyone else, so the holidays are,
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  Speaker 2: they prove an interesting challenge for me because that's, most
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  Speaker 2: places have a blackout enforcement for retail and my, my
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: store is much like all the rest where there is
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  Speaker 2: a blackout period. So I can't use any of my PTO,
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  Speaker 2: but I might be able to, uh, swing, swing a
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  Speaker 2: weekend in there. So it's, uh, it'll, it'll be a
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  Speaker 2: last second decision if I do make one. Um, especially with,
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: you know, just spent a bunch of money going to Nashville, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Bucky's has a lot to do with that and then
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  Speaker 2: obviously we're going to we'll be going to Minnesota in
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  Speaker 2: just what two three short weeks.
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  Speaker 3: One two three and a half.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll be going to Minnesota in three weeks and
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  Speaker 2: look forward to seeing everybody there so.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah Well, and you got World Series tickets, so you
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  Speaker 5: got to think positive there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking positive, right? But, you know, that's the
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: old sports adage, you know. Don't look past your opponent,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So they got to win this one first,
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: which they just put another run on the board. So
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: it's 5-4 Milwaukee. So, you know. Damn Brewers. They just,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: of course, this would be the time where they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're just going to do good now. They've done great.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: They've done great the past decade, really. You're talking about
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  Speaker 2: a team that was very, very, very bad in the 90s.
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  Speaker 2: Very bad. And now is done it the right way
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: with the new ownership. But go check out the Midwest
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Key Forge Open. Maybe we can get with the Papa,
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: have him on again. We normally have him on. We
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: had him on last year talking about it. Maybe we
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: can get him on talking about it again this year
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  Speaker 2: and give us some insights.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: I know that the hand does not know about the foot,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: but yes, we've already been in contact and we're setting
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: a future date.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: So don't stress it. And it was not necessarily even
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: our good friend DePapa, but I'm sure we could bring
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: him in too.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't told about it, but I figured somebody
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: might have reached out.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: Sometimes the wife just doesn't tell you, Wookie. We're just
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: going to roll with that.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: For our cast.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: It's okay. It wouldn't be the first time. But I
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: want to highlight one real quick thing. I did release
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the new Archons Corner website. ArchonsCorner.cards is now up and running.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: If you guys want to go check that out, tell
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: me what you think. I don't want to say it's
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: anything too special. Right, but you can find our most
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: recent episodes on there. It kind of gives a little
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: bit of the background for us. It's easy links to
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: find our merch, to find our Facebook, Instagram, TikTok threads,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Blue Sky, if you're ever wondering where to follow us
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: on any of our socials. It'll take you over to
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: DrazScore if you're looking to get some decks evaluated. But
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: one thing that we've done in the past, but It
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: kind of, I don't know, it kind of fluttered out
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: was articles. And Fig wrote the first article. You can
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: go over there. Break of Dawn is live now. I
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: know he's going to be writing some other stuff for us.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I am working on a field report for Nashville. We
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: will play chicken with Gigi to see who gets their
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: report out first. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they've done, what, Portland so far? That's what they've
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: done so far? You're good.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I think I have plenty of time, so I am
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: working on it. It's one of those things where I
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: guess formatting it has been kind of the trouble in
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: putting it up, so I'll get that figured out here
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: sooner rather than later, hopefully. And then the biggest thing
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: that I really wanted to, we talked about it way,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: way back in the day was having a calendar where
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: you're able to spotlight your local events. We've always had
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a calendar and a map to where you were able
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: to find things before. And that kind of went away
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: with GG. And then we said, we should do this
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: and then never did. Well, I did. So you can
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: head over to archonscorner.card slash local dash play and And
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: you can submit your local events. Obviously, they don't go
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  Speaker 2: in right away. They have to be, they get emailed,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: and then I will look at them just in case
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: anybody decides to get any cheeky ideas. And then I
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: will obviously input the vault tours that are on there
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: as well once they are announced for next year, which
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: will be done at KFC, right? I love that go
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: to confidence from everybody.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yep. Yes.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But once they're announced, I can put them in.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I'll also put in, like, the Nationals once we know
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: them and all that good stuff. But you can search
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: by zip code.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: But, Wookie, we were told we'd have a summer event.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It was 57.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: It's October 15th.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: So do we do the what comes first, KFC or
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the summer event?
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: I just don't know how much I believe what I'm hearing.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: And that's different versus our next topic afterwards.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I would have made that whole thing up about how
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: we're going to actually get events at KFC. I made
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that whole thing up. You'll get them.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, we should submit an event called the summer
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: event and then just have a card that you sit
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: at the table that says, please wait four to six weeks.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Do you think we could get DeadSync to do that? Like,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: do you think we could have him make a community
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: card called the summer event?
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, we totally should. It's kind of late now, though.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: They're already like, yeah, already printed. I was talking about,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: you know, how at kfc you can submit community events
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: yeah it should have been it should have been the
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: community summer event and then it would actually be nothing.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: It could be the name of the team's event the
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: summer event yeah perfect and then well But back to that,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: you can do it by zip code. So you're able to,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: you know, for new players, able to find. I haven't
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: found a way to get this out to new players yet.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: But you're able to enter a zip code. It'll show
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: you everything in your zip code that you're able to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: go to and so on and so forth. So go
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: over there, submit your events, and I'll get them up
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: as soon as they hit the inbox where I'm able
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to go get them rolling. Um, and if you guys
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: have a website or a Facebook account, um, for the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: game store that does it, I, I highly suggest putting,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: putting that in there for people to find. I think, uh,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that makes, that makes life easier, especially for some new
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: people looking to go, to go to events because, you know, it's,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I find it funny. Like every day I pop onto
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Facebook and I'm just, you know, you're just doom scrolling.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: And, um, You know, another person popped in there. They
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: did a Keyforge video today, and they're like, yep, new
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: to Keyforge. And I just opened a deck. And I
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: think it was like a mass mutations deck or something
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, they just opened a deck, and
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: they did something with it. So new people are coming
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: into this game. It is definitely a marathon, not a race.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Unlike Keyforge, it is a marathon, not a race. so
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: we kind of i.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Mean maybe it's like a slow walk down a long road.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It is a slow walk down a long bridge right
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: so i mean much like the pro much like the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: brewers trust the process right you just get you got
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: to trust the process uh you know make sure you're
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: if you are listening to this stuff, you know, share
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: it out, get it to people, you know, so other
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: people can find the game. Um, so that people finding.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: It, that website again, outside of discord, what, what was
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: that website?
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: That would be arconscorner.cards.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Arconscorner.cards. So check it out. Tell me what you think.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that did check it
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: out already liked it. Like I said, it's nothing special,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: but a little bit more content for maybe some of
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: those of you who do like reading articles. There haven't
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: been a ton of articles out lately. Bad Penny Press
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: is no longer a thing. So I know that that's
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a void that many people are going to miss. But
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: if you do like the reading aspect, you can go
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: over there. All right. What do we got up next? Neko.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Draz put in the dates for Neko.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. I just checked because I knew when the
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: dates were, but I was like, I thought they were
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: supposed to be announcing soon, but they did. They announced today,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: this afternoon, the dates for Neko 3, which will be...
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: on Saturday, January 30th and Sunday, January 31st, 2027. So
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: once again, in the winter between, uh, you know, between the, uh,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: the seasons, if you will, and it will be at
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: a similar location, not the exact same location.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Bless you. You okay? You blowed a lung or something?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I tried to lean away. I leaned real fast away
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: from the microphone. I don't know how well that helped,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: but you're welcome, listener.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It sounded painful, whatever it was. It did not sound
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: like it was friendly.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, sometimes you got to eject stuff out
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: of your nostrils. Sorry, everyone. Everywhere.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I'm glad the one thing we did do in all that, though,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: is we definitely 100% cleared up where we were ejecting
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: things from. So thank you for that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I mean, it could have been my bum.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Could have been a lot of orifices.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Could have been. Could have been. You know... So where
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: will be, it's going to be at the just play games, uh,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: mega store and play space at Lancaster PA. So this
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: is very close to where we had the last event. Um,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: but just up the road. So the place where we
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: had Neko one and Neko two was a, uh, board
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: game store that carries key forge, but, um, it's, it's
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: really a metal. So as local, uh, Well, they make
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: us pay full price for the decks there, which makes
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: it hard to get... There's no bulk discount or anything.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: So it's hard for Neko to get enough funds without
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: charging a lot to do anything extra cool. So we're
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: going to try something a little different just up the road.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: There's this... just post play, uh, mega store, uh, which
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: is a new venue, which has a table space and whatnot.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: They're not currently a keyboard retailer. They do have, um,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: like other stuff like video games and stuff too, I believe. Uh, but, um,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the owner there is apparently now very interested in Key
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Forge and maybe he's going to get into it. So we'll,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know, hopefully go and show him that.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I wonder what makes it, I wonder what the shift is. Like,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: what is this shift? There's been a shift of like,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: just people like, oh, not interested, not into it. Like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: has the, has the waiting period passed? Like, you know
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like there was, there was obviously FFG
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: burned a lot of people.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Right? Yeah.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Like, a lot.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Like, a lot.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't think the amount of people... You know,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and it's crazy, because FF... This is, like, par for
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the course for FFG. Like, this isn't their first time
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: burning people. But, like, Keyforge... Normally, when they burned people,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: it was... Well, we're just, like... When they burned people
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: with Destiny, right? Like, how did that not affect Keyforge
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: as much, I always wondered? Because, like, it's still the
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: same company, right? And, like... They did it with Destiny.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: They did it with the Game of Thrones card game.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: They did it with so many card games. And yet
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: somehow still they suckered people into buying stuff.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't know. My local, he's definitely Carl at
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: the Games Keep. Shut up, Carl. He's definitely suspicious of
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: anything FFG, any card game or miniatures game FFG creates
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: because you know, not exactly you can not exactly rely
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: on them for.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Making the game the way you want it to be.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: They're such a bag grabber at any run They'll grab it,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: it'll be hot, white hot, and then they just do nothing.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: And again, they've done this so many times, and still
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: somehow people still buy things from FFG. You'd think at
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: some point they'd be like, no, you've screwed me over
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: for the final time. But that never seems to happen.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: They're just like, oh, next FFG product. And just like
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Key Forge kind of experienced it differently where they screwed
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of people over. And it's like, maybe it's
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: just finally like that waiting period's done and over with
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: now where they're like, all right, I'm willing to give
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: you a second chance and see what happens.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Maybe. I don't know. I mean, this, you know, this store,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think they ever did. Key Forge.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: They definitely do Magic and One Piece and Pokemon and
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: whatnot now.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying there definitely feels like there's a
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: bit of a resurgence in people's curiosity with the game.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to turn into anything or
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: really going to go anywhere, but there's definitely this curiosity
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: with the game. I don't know if it's just like
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: it's stuck it out and it's lasted this long. It's
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the cockroach and now people are like, Well, I mean, shit,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: it's been through so much.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: If it can survive all this, it must be okay.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it survived, that's exactly where I was headed
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: with it. If it survived all of that, it's got
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: to be good, right? It can't be bad and survive
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: all that. There's got to be something to this. If
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: it's going to go through all the problems that it
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: had and still have this diehard community, there's got to
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: be something there, right?
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I've noticed this resurgence where I've seen a lot of
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: people talking about it online. Obviously, we just went to
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Nashville where they had what I guess we could say
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: was a pretty successful learn-to-play event.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: We did have some new people, like, just pop in
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: and be like, oh, what's this all about? And, like, just,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: you know, play. So, like, I don't know. Like, I just, again,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: it's just my curiosity has been, you know, has been itching.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm just kind of like, where is all of
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: this coming from? You know, for so long, people would
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: not touch this thing like it had the plague. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they're like, all right, fine. It's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: like that nerdy guy who asked the hot girl out enough,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: and finally she's like, fine. Fine, I'll give you a shot.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's how we all did it, right? Because,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: you know, no other way for us nerds, right?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I hid my nerddom, according to my wife. According to her,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: she didn't know, so. I was like, I'm pretty sure,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: but you know, my wife.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Had to take this class. It was on, she had
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: to take it. She had to take a history class. Right. And, uh,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: the way she tells the story, she's like, she's like,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I don't like history. I don't want to take this class.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: And she's like, you know what? I'm just going to
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: find the nerdiest guy in class to study with so
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I can do. Okay. Okay. On the, uh, on, on
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the test. And, uh, You know, I just attacked, you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: as the nerdiest guy in the class and the rest
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: is history.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Now, this this story, I can confirm there was also
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: a missing umbrella that was not returned.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: We did. We did celebrate.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: We did celebrate with drinks after Nashville. And it was
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: super sweet to hear the amazing story.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, we did actually. Here you can tell
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: how old a man I am now. So we did
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: just have our 20th wedding anniversary. So the reason I
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: actually wasn't on the last episode, because we were on vacation.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I sort of forgot what day it was. And until
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the next morning, I was like, whoops. But we were
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: on the Kentucky Bourbon Trail, and we drank a lot
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: of bourbon. And it was delicious and delicious. it was
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: a really good time and I brought home way too
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: much bourbon, uh, which I guess is a, not a
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: problem really. So it was a good ass time.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I was going to make a joke that you were
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: bringing home a new baby, but I had a.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Bourbon baby, you know, I can drink that much here. Sure.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: You can call your new child, whatever you'd like, sir. But, um, Yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: congrats to you guys. How many years you got in now?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: That's 20. How many years you got left?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, it better be better more than double it,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: otherwise that means I'm dying young.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Don't do that. But do you guys want to go
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: into some of the... I don't want to hit all
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: of these.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Um....
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: We've kind of stayed away from it. I know other
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: places are talking about it. We might run it short here,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: but KFO, obviously, coming out with updates, it seems like
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: all the time, every day, all day, every day, there's
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: new updates.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Which is amazing.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: This is why keyboard players want communication.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: No, I will say the communication has been great. I'll say, like,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Can I just say, like, I really love this team's moxie,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and I hope everything pans out the way they're saying
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: it's going to. This just seems... Now, I guess, Draskor,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you're the one to tell us. Because this seems like
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: a big undertaking. And we're looking at early 2028, I think,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: is the.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: They just said 2028. They just said 20. I thought
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: it was early 2028. Well, I think there was something
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: where there was some level of hoping to do earlier
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: rather than later. I don't know. And there was some
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: insinuation at some point that perhaps how well it's funded
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: on uh game found might drive some of that but
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: i you know none of that i didn't see anything
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: where any of that was locked in right they definitely
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: uh you know if they get more money certainly you
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: could yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: If you get more money you can get more people
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: more people equals things happen faster potentially faster so you
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: know it might not you gotta be careful because in
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: these things right The humans, paying the humans to do
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the things, that's like the most expensive part of the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: digital products, right? The humans.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, man.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Us humans are expensive.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Especially, you know, highly skilled humans. Expensive.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: They charge highly skilled human money.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Now, by doing it in Vietnam, they're going to
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: get a better rate on the labor. You know, and
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: then you've got the passionate folks who are passionate to
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: do it just because they love the game, right? So
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: you got that, all those things going for it. So yeah,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think we know. And even if they have
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: certain aspirations, I think they'd be wise to not make
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: those promises.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Not make too many promises. Yeah, that was kind of
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: my fear.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Is, don't, don't make too many promises, but I think
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: the talking this much about what you're thinking, I think is,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: is good. And it gives the opportunity, uh, to get feedback.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: And they've definitely already adjusted a couple of things based
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: on community feedback and responses. And I think that's, that's
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: the right move.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And, um, you know, I think it just seems like
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of the answers, like the, I think the, okay.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: So the biggest one that we have, um, uh, kind
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: of highlighted here is the deck cloning period, right? Originally
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: it was, it was set to a year. Um, and
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: then it was kind of like, well, okay, we'll see. Right.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And just to, to double click their backup slightly,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: just so people know what we're talking about, you will
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: in key forge online, be able to purchase digital decks
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: and they will be, um, you know, in the Master
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Vault and all that, the interesting question is, should there
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: be any restrictions around when you could clone that deck
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: or how you clone that deck, so on and so forth, right?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Because you can on-demand print just like any other Keyforged deck.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: So the initial line that they put forward was, hey,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: you're not, wait a year. And the concept was in
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: the section about preserving physical play and having a very
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: long waiting period does, in theory, potentially help physical play
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: because you know, a year later, what's the chances that
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: that deck you thought was cool 12 months ago is
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: actually still cool given the current, how everything's changed based on,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: you know, subsequent set development.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: So, you know, you're talking, you're talking cool, which I
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: don't have an issue with. We're talking from competitive player stance.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: That is this deck viable essentially. And that's what you're saying,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: but it is now a, on the timeline that's there,
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: whether that's one set or two sets later, is it
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: still applicable and viable? I will say the actual KFO
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: announcement that is there is the statement is digital Archon
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: decks will be required to undergo a waiting period after
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: being unsealed before a clone of it can be ordered.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: That's what the statement is at this point in time.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: But that's because, one, we have a passionate team who
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: is highly invested in the game, but you've also brought
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: in like many, many, many, many different key community members
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: from Key Forge who are then having a voice and
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: being able to provide feedback. And I think this is
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: something that honestly Gigi could learn from is that having stakeholders,
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: both in the competitive and non-competitive stance, go ahead and
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: provide some feedback and then doing something with that feedback
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: is extremely important. And that's what I give a real props.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Even though this is still over a year away, KFO's
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: leadership is going ahead and working with GG, but they're
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: also taking what the players of all different skill levels
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: and members of the community are looking for. And they're
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: sifting it very carefully to make sure that it allows
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: for a successful product, And I think that is one
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: of the best signs of a very successful product long
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: term is that they're listening to the community. They're providing feedback.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: And I'm very, very excited for this. So we'll have
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: to see.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: So the one thing I will say is I don't
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: disagree with you. Um, but drafts court brought something up about,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you know, not, I guess over promising, I guess was the,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: the best way of putting it. Um, because obviously like,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think you need to look very far except
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: for the, you know, these, this very podcast, which we
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: used to have a, a, a sister show called altered corner,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: which would come out every week. And that is no
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: longer available. Now, according to everybody, there's many reasons as
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: to why Altered failed, right? But the most prominent reason
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: that you'll hear people say is they over-promised and under-delivered, right? Like,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: when they came out and the Kickstarter was, you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: they originally said, you know, it was going to be very,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: very soon that you were going to be able to
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: order cards from the card market. You were going to
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: be able to do this. You were going to be
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: able to do that. And, like, it hit delays, right?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: And it was all tech stuff, right? It was all,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: you know, they had problems with conversion rates and the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: ability to be able to sell things because of different
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: international laws and so on and so forth. So, like,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: obviously not over-promising and saying, yep, you're going to be
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: able to do this, you're going to be able to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: do that, and you're going to be able to do this,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I think, obviously, is keeping it vague to a stance.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: And obviously, like... We're the community. We always want to
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: be listened to, right? Nobody's like, ignore me.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Well, no, but I don't know if you guys remember
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: when Gigi took over from FFG, we were super ecstatic
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: from the communication we were getting. And then as we
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: now progress down this journey... Now we've become a redheaded stepchild,
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: a hellbreaker. Well, no, but what I'm saying is the
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: communication has really died off. And so that's something... KFO, one,
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: having an online client is absolutely massive for this game.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: And with it being attached to Steam, which we didn't
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: even announce from the beginning, that opens up a completely
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: different marketplace in space for standard board gamers and people
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: who are very active online to have access to this game.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: So that alone is like huge.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Do you think releasing it on Steam versus like a
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: BGA is better? Like Steam is obviously a much bigger market.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: But BGA is a.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Much more focused.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: BGA has gotten pretty popular.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: I think both are absolutely incredible opportunities that are much
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: broader than the public that we have access now.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: And again, nothing against TCO.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: TCO has kept our game alive for so long as
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: an incredible asset for our game.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: However, if you don't know about TCO, you don't know
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: about TCO.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: this is.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: Where if we want to actually expand the game, we
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: have to get into BGA where it has a much
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: broader board game group that it's pulling from or steam.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: And so both of these are great options, but I think,
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: I think steam is perfectly fine.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I have no, I was just, I was thinking about
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: that the other day. I was like, I don't know,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: like steam, steam is fine.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Like it's a, it's a big market, right? Like anybody,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: if you're playing online, something, you probably have steam, right?
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: but that's more of a video game i don't want
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: to say like call of duty but that's like the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: best reference i have call of duty type market you
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: know what i mean it's not the board gamer i
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: guess i don't know how often people are using steam
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: to board game besides for like maybe like a tabletop
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: um tabletop.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Tabletop Simulator. No, no, no.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: I completely disagree. There are many, many, many games that
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: are being run on there. Dune Imperium right now, there
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: are so many great games.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: That people play. I didn't know, for the board game
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: side of it anyways, I didn't know how popular it was.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: So it just seemed like BGA might have been the easy,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: maybe not easier, but like the more focused choice, right?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Because like there's so many board games on BGA and
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: that's where it seems like most board gamers go to play.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: But if you're telling me Steam's, Steam's, Steam's hot shit,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I agree. I'll, I'll tell you you're right. Cause you're
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: more knowledgeable on that than me.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, definitely gives them more options when it comes
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: to visual effects and animation and, uh, sound effects and
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: all that. So I think it's a, right. In many ways,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: it's a good choice. Um, Now, you are tied to
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: more of a gaming PC, I guess. This doesn't have
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: to be a great PC or whatever. But you're tied
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: more to a PC than your mobile phone, right? But
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: to me, that's OK. It's hard to play Key Forge
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: on a really small mobile screen. certainly on tcl it
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: is now could you find a solution maybe but um
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: so this does mean not as much on your mobile
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: phone um it does mean you know our uh we
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: haven't seen custodian uh in a hot minute but our
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: resident uh steam deck salesman will maybe uh uh make
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: some sales or i have a steam deck i have a.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Steam deck i have a couple steam decks there you go.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: I do think that if you look through the fine print, though,
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: on GameFound that it talked about for KFO, if there's
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: enough money, a chance for it to be made into
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: a digital client that can be processed through a phone.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: So again, I think.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: That's absolutely amazing if we can go ahead and raise
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: funds for that. But just getting into Steam is a
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: huge first step. And then down the line, we can
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: look at other options.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the one reason I've kind of shied away
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: from this is I think maybe we talked about a
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: little earlier. It's just it's like nothing's nothing's 100 percent
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: until we're there.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Like we're a year away.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: It's super duper exciting. But there could be so many
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: changes between here and next year at this point in time.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: But even even being able to go ahead.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: And know Key Forge could not be a thing between
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: now and then.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: It's possible.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it's, I'm not saying it's going
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: to happen. I'm just saying like the possibility is like, we,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: we don't know, like ghost galaxy for all we know
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: could go under. I don't know. You don't know. We don't,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: nobody knows their financial situation. You know, we're like, we've
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: been told they're doing good and they're still hiring people,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: but like, we don't know. Right. Like just it's, everything
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: is up in the air. Right. So until an event
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: or until it's here, it's tough to talk. It's tough
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: for me to talk about and.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: See, and I'm, I'm completely the opposite here. Like they
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: have actually laid out a.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: Plan, which brings validity to a process that they aren't
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: just going ahead and throwing things out and seeing what's
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: going to stick. They're looking at, this is what we're
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: running with. And if you have not seen this, yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: but see, here's the deal. Like, uh, dress core, you've
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: been a manager of people for many moons, correct?
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: And I've been a manager of many moons, many, many,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: many times I have laid out a game plan and like,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: here's the game plan. And now we just need to
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: execute and we're going to execute. And the amount of
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: times that I've had to pivot from a game plan,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I can't, I don't have enough toes and fingers to
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: count how many times I've had to pivot because something
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: just goes sideways. And it's unforeseeable, and there's no way
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: you would ever have seen this happening.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: I hear you, and I see what you're saying, but
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: you're one listing very general. It's generalizations that are here,
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: and if you look at what they're talking about, these
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: are things like.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: One, we've had TCO.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: We've had Call of the Archons existing for the longest time.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: It provides a basis for the card pool for... for
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: key forge as a whole which is needed as we
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: go ahead and go on that was the five sets
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: we expect to support at launch i literally with that
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: i don't.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if call the archons is needed anymore.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: It no as as a as a base you need
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: it for you need it one it is for the
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: learn to play No, no, it's not even about that.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: It's about the card pool that is literally used with
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: all the other sets, Wookie. So if you're going ahead
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: and if you're producing a game that has actual graphics
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: and it's not just here's a card.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: What reprints are we getting from today's Keyforge that are
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: in Coda?
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: There's a bunch.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Rating Night?
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Hold on. Call the Archons. And what's that? I'm going
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: to DriveScore.com.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Go to like GR and forward. Go GR and forward.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Because Grim Reminders is still mostly FFG.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: So... Oh, you know what?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Like Routine Job, I guess, is still around.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: I think that you are.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: How many cards have been brought in from the initial pool.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, we definitely, and we've seen in the VM sets, right? Yep.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Eric Waters was posted VM 26, right? A ton, right?
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: You got like battle fleet brainstem, right? You've got not
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: a command is back. Uh, you've got neutron shark, right?
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Time traveler, TMTP, right? There's a whole bunch of cards, uh,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: good cards from, uh, the old set. That's that's, uh, back. Right.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: so graft right international graft um what else um yeah
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: routine job you already mentioned the schloppy lab work um.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: What was that are they are most of these in
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: vault master sets.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah there's a lot in vault master but a whole
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: bunch of these that i deemed have been in recent sets.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Wild Wormhole is there as well.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Arise was in a recent set.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Arise was for your Amber Skies.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: There are more cards that are foundational because our card
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: pool has dwindled and is smaller, which is something that
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: frankly has to go ahead and increase. We need a
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: larger card pool to bring some more variants. You can
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: reutilize or reprint a number of cards, but we need
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: to have a larger card pool. But this is here
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: for Call of the Arthans and our earlier sets are
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: being used pretty heavily. It's foundational for building a game.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: If they have to build that platform, they have to
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: go ahead and build, the cards are there. So it's
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: not a matter of that they're producing a game with, oh,
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: I have to make sure the game is balanced. Whether
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: we're arguing it's balanced or not, Key Forge exists because
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: of FFG and now GG. So now it's just, can
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: we put this into a digital version, which is a
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: a lot of work, but it is a different setup
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: versus creating a game from scratch. Regardless, I think that
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: Call of the Archons, they are two most recent released
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: sets at the time of Key Forge Online, because remember,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: this is a year from now, so we don't have those.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: We don't even know the name of the sets that
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: will be out at that point in time.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Correct, but realize that they have already talked with GG.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: They have gone ahead and created an agreement to make
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: sure that this is a process that is viable.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: They've created an agreement to not do any more PV.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Just kidding. We don't know that.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, even having digital decks that you can go
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: on and just crack a deck and play, like, okay,
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: I'm going to come home on said night. It can
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: be instead of your local deck. I hope that we
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: can build locals through this, but if someone doesn't have
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: a local, maybe it's a way that they can get
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: into the game and then find the game. Maybe we
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: can grow locals through it. But I show up on,
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: here's our Wednesday night, or here's our Sunday night. I
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: use a sealed deck token in order to generate sealed
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: deck token, and now I have a deck. I can
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: go ahead and play that for three rounds. It's a
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: wonderful experience. It's not, I have a full deck that
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: I love, all right, well, maybe I now start to
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: go do something else with it on the website. And
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: they talked about that. We talked about the deck cloning
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: that's there, but they used essentially a ranked system in
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: order to go ahead and put people so that when
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: I'm looking for a game, I don't just get randomly
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: paired up with the person who is just starting for
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: the first time. And that can bring a better experience
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: to that new player, but also to myself.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: So, This is something we've been kind of asking for
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: a while.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: ELO or something as to that matter.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: And so now you have access to that. They talked
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: a lot more about ranked matchmaking, but they have their
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: different tiers.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: And they listed it.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: Think of their NKFL that had existed for... different soccer
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: levels that's what i really picture um and so i
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: can go up or i can go down so now
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: i have reason to want to come back and invest
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: in this game and to invest in the deck or
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: invest in playing um i think that one of the
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: key things that was listed there andres you had that
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: it's only your own decks so that is very different
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: that's very different from tco where i can go ahead
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: Like I hop on TCO and I can see, okay,
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: here is person X. It's sealed and then it's locked.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: And then person, oh, wait, the names are literally very,
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: very similar. It's just someone testing against themselves. And that's important.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: But here I.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Can just run my own decks and I can go
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: out into the larger world. I think it brings more players,
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: which is great.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: But there's two different... So for the... You can only
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: play your own, right? That's for the ranked Archon. Correct.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: So to rank, to move up and down, bronze, silver, gold, platinum, diamond, radiant.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: But you can still play open Archon, right? You'll still
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: see Tootin' Carnage and not Tootin' Carnage playing against.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I forget his other account, but.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: It's like a similar name, right? So you'll still see
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: him out there. I'll go to TCO right now.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: He's probably out there right now.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: But that's open Archon versus the ranked Archon.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: So even there, there's a thought process.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's Chimera and Chimera 2? Way to go, bud.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: He's testing something.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Well, he's playing Alliance, so he probably had to do that.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Because, you know, nope.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, even on our team, how many people, he's
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: team AC, but how many people play Alliance with poor Khybera?
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I took top eight in Alliance.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Sure, but do you play on TCL?
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: No.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, there was nine players, so that is a feat.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: Drez, you're not here to hear this. Wookiee, by taking
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: eighth at Nashville, which again was our largest vault of
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: the year for total number of players. Wookiee, what was
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: your record.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: In that Alliance?
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: One and three.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: And the one win came from a bye. Okay.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Nice. Hey, don't you yuck my yum. I still placed
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: top eight. Why are you trying to take that away
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: from me?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Because you took it away.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: You took it away from one of Draskor's locals. That's
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: what you did.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it was their fault for playing Alliance.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: You should have just played Archon, like all the other
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: smart people.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: There will be like all the ABR games that are
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: odd sets of matches will be also applicable. So we
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: not only have ranked Archon and open Archon, but you
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: could play Reversal.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: You could play that shall not be named.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: No, but like, thou that shall not be named, that
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: other cast we talk about that.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Begins with an A!
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Thou that shall not be named.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, that is far more in the spirit of
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Keyforged than Alliances. It really is.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: But no, I like the idea. And to have these.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: things laid out that you can see, okay, this is
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: what I get to look forward to. Here's sets immediately.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: Here's I can play sealed, which is the best way
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: to play this game. Oh, I can go ahead and
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: I have reason to come back because I can try
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: and level up. Matchmaking is going to be then what
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: it's like. All these are amazing, amazing assets. And we
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: haven't even gotten to the last little bit that they've
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: talked about.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: So daily quests and weekly quests, again, reasons to come back.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Right now, we have a dwindling population.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: One, because there's no marketing and no local play, which
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: means that if you're finding out about this game, how
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: is that happening? Who introduced the game to you? So
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: even with KFO, when it was announced, the influx of
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: players returning and new who are hearing about this, it
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: is drawing attention and positive attention at that. So I
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: can see, now we get some people in and here's
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: your daily quest.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: Awesome.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: Something that I want to be able to do every day.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: A reason to come back, a reason to log on,
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: a reason to do this. And then weekly quests? Yes,
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: let's do this.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Again, more reasons.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: When people play the game, they love this game. So
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: let's offer options that incentivize people to come back. It
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: seems so simple, boys, and yet it seems like it's
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: been neglected.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: From others. And so that's why it's, it's difficult for
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: me to see this.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I, I do think it's awesome that they're now
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: going and doing these daily quests, these weekly quests. Right.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: I think that's the sort of thing you need to
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: keep you coming back. Right. Like I might play more
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: often because of that. Right. We'll, we'll see how it's
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: implemented or play more often online. Right. You know, I,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I like to play in person a lot more. Um, but, uh,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I'm playing online more often. Uh,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: we'll see. We'll see. I think definitely having those, those
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: daily situations will, will be interesting. Don't know what they'll
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: do for it. Like, you know, Key Forge is a
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: longer game, so you can't, you can't make it, you know, uh,
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: you know, win 10 games against 10 different sets, right?
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: You can't do that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: But I think more of this will be announced at KFC.
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: So there's time that DeadSync's going to be able to
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: talk about it. Riku should be there as well to
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: be able to talk about what KFO is going to add.
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: And there's things that we know we don't know yet.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: but they will be able to share and we hope
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: to be able to talk about. So I'm excited by that.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: I also think with Dead Sing's action and involvement with Keychain,
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: like some of the achievements that were brought in can
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: go ahead and be brought into KFO. So the merging
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: of passionate community members and an online presence can only
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: help this game. If nothing else, it can only help
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: this game.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm excited.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: I think we lost Wiki.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Did we lose him? He's muted.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I am muted because I am cramping. And I don't
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: want to hear anybody hear me in pain.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe the Brewers were doing particularly well.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Cramps on my right side. Brewers are up 5-4. We
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: have ended the eighth. We are headed to the top
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: of the ninth. I am hoping right now McGill is
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: coming in, and he's going to shut it down. No,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't be coming in. Brewers are going up because
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: we're in L.A., so Brewers are coming up. Maybe they
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: can add a couple insurance runs. This has been a
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: hell of a game, guys. Let me tell you, going
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: down 4-0 at the bottom of the second and then
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: battling all the way back. I mean, wow. Wow. This
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: is a Dodgers team. $ 330 million is their payroll.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that could bankroll. That's how I'm going
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: to spin this around here.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: That's almost as high as the Archon's Corner budget, right?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: It's about $ 330 million above our budget.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do this shit for free, bruh.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: We got all those seven patrons i'm doing it for
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: negative money with dry score.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Same i'm i'm not i'm right where i'm right where
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: you are too because i am also in the negative
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: money now that i have a website as well.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: So so we got uh but i've actually been working
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: on some new some some interesting new features i'm i'm
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: testing out so.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Did you guys talk about the daily and weekly quests
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: i kind of maybe we'll cap it off with this
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: you talked about that already.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: A little bit. A little bit. What are you hoping for?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: What are you hoping to see, Wookie?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering because like, okay, daily quests, weekly quests,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: like daily quests, my assumption is it's going to be like,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: it's got to be something that's somewhat easy, right? You know,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: play a deck from.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: X set or with X house or.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: That has a forge forge forge a key forge three
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: keys forge a key using a key cheat you know
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: Play x amount of creatures play x amount of right
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: actions artifacts operates things in the sword.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Um i know there's been talk about oh it's gonna
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: push you to play other decks I don't know if
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I want to see that or if I don't want
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: to see that, because, like, at the end of the day,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: I want to play what I want to play, right?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I don't want to have to go digging through my
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: collection to, you know, find trash. I'm not that player
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: where I'm like, let me go find that awesome deck
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: that has a key to darkness in it. That's not me.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: That's not who I am. You know what I mean?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. You know, that is an interesting thought. There are
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: different types of players, and perhaps they should have different
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: daily quest types for the different types of players, because
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: there's definitely players who want to play that random weird deck.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: And then I know there was talks about a pass,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: like a monthly pass or something. I don't know what
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: that would all... A lot... Again, it just... It seems
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: like they're taking on a lot very quickly, but maybe
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: this has been stuff they've been talking about for a
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: year already. I don't know. I don't want it to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: be a thing where it comes out and it's just like, well,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: you can play games on it. None of these other
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: things are ready. We'll release them as they're ready.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: So when you're talking about vault passives, Basically, it's something
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: for players to be able to climb. So seasonal vault pass,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: and it's not all flushed out yet, and that's okay.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: They're still in this development.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: See, because when I think of the passes, it's like
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: you've got a mobile game, you've got a season pass.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Think of like Marvel Snap, right? Remember that was real big.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's big anymore. Maybe it still is.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: I think people still play it. Yeah. Excuse me. You
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: got like an alternate art of whatever the hero of
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Spider-Man or whatever the hero.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: But that's that's that's what I was getting to.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: Basically, as a result of going through or passing through
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: a series of matches, you're going to get a mix
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: of digital or spendable currency in the game and exclusive
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: personalized items.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: So things to bling out.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: Your what you're looking at for your screen is might
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: be a different background might be like who knows what
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: all of that will entail and then spendable currency so
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: again more reasons to.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Another Brewers run let's fucking go boys let's fucking go sorry.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Maybe that'll be a Brewers season pass and then you
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: can get your you.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Know could you imagine a KFO collab with the MLB
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: oh my god I would play that season I'd play
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: the fuck out of that season.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: Thank you for all the donations tonight oh.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Man make it happen or if you could do like
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: a liquid death collab I just found out that flip
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: 7 has a liquid death collab so now I gotta
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: buy it.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: See so you're interested because of the collab that's there
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: oh absolutely I will.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: Say one of the things that.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: Has been met with some hesitation in the past was
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: talked about and that's data Um, so I've seen a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: little bit of talk online in regards to what will happen.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: So if, if games are being played and there's a
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: lot more games, what happens to the data that's collected?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: And they did talk about deck mastery.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: So one, we can showcase players proficiency with specific decks
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: through their playback history.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Um, so you can see how many times she plays fraud.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: Well, no, it goes a lot deeper than that.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: The intent to build a statistics page and log in
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: game stats from your matches. Um, So it's both cool
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: in that, like, hey, we saw who went ahead and
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: played the most actions or who had the most key
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: cheats or who was able to go ahead and achieve
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: this X task. That tracker that existed previously incentivized a
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: number of people. But it also really can be used
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: if it is not just how that data is collected
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: and allowed to be shared with everyone i as long
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: as it's openly shared with everyone i think that's fine
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: but that has been an issue in the past where
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: if information is not openly shared with everyone if just
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: let's say that's.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Okay but then the other problem is too if i
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: don't want my information shared i think that is a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: thing that needs to be recognized that's that's.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Where the concern is Yeah, I mean, so I don't
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: think it would be good if it's like, I want
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: to specifically look up, you know, all of Ewoks, you know,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: exact information for some specific deck he plays. Like, I
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: don't think that's good, right?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: But Drez, that's what it specifically says. The general idea
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: is that we want players and their decks to have
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: stats and histories that.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Can be viewed.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: Maybe even glean some insights about your own particular play style.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: It can help you if you're like, hey, I'm playing
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: this house most often. But it can also be used
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: against you in a vault where it's like, well, X
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: player is going to play this deck.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: And guess what? I just have to go ahead and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: make sure that....
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't be able to look up your specific information,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: but what I should be able to see, and I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: think everybody wants to see is what are, what's your
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: own information and then what's the global, uh, information. Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: How it relates to everyone.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like this card, how well, you know, um, how
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: well does this card do? Right. How well you can
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: break it down by, you know, versus, you know, set
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: on set or, versus other houses or whatever. I don't know.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: You can, you can break it down to some extent,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: but it shouldn't be personally identifiable.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: So, um, I think there's a lot of room to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: play in there. Um, like, you know, you, you guys have.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Asked me before, but again, if, if I don't want
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: any of my information collected, I should be able to
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: opt out of that.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: And there is time for those decisions to be made.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: Um, so we'll, we'll have to see, but that's why having,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: having a stance from.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: All of us as community members can talk is important.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: If you remember Kip, like that was, that was a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: huge thing. And there was, I mean, I'm just going
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: to go ahead and say it. There was shenanigans afoot, right? Now,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's just like, if I don't want
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: my information being used in your database, I should have
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: the ability to opt out.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: I don't want my information stored. I don't want it
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: shared with anybody. I don't, you know, so on and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: so forth. So, I mean, obviously that's going to have
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: to be something that's talked about at a later date,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: or maybe it's already been talked about. I mean, because, like,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: for me personally, it's like, yeah, no, I don't want
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: my information shared or stored anywhere.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so if your information is not saved or stored,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: then you probably also won't have access to your own information, right?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Right, and that's fine by me, right? Like, that's the trade-off,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: and that's a trade-off I'm willing to make.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: But I can't say everybody, and that's obviously, again, something,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: that's a choice everyone's going to have to make once
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: they get to it. But, you know, I agree with you. Like,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think, like, people should, there should be, like,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: I should be able to see mine and then, like,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: a global version where I can see kind of, oh,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: this is, you know, this card's win rate is this.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: This card's win rate is that. You know, so on.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: You know, like, we. We used to have a lot
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: of that data and now I don't know if we
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: still do. I think SAS used to have a lot
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: of it on.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I've always talked to the past about
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: how that's where a lot of inspiration for modification of
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: various scores and whatnot come from for, for cards and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: synergies and whatnot is those that came from FFG for
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: that in-person play.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: Without that, There's a number of reasons why one might
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: argue that SAS is maybe slightly less accurate than it
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: used to be, but that's probably a driver, right? You
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: don't have that feedback loop. We don't have that feedback
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: loop for, for draft score. All we have is our
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: community users telling us we're wrong about cards. So yeah, Um, yeah,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: which you should go do, by the way, you should
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: go to draftscore.com and we see log in, right? We
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: see a card that you don't like how we rated it.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Set your own rating. And then in the future, we will.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: And you can get there and you can get to
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: draftscore through archonscorner.cards.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: I will say, boys, I'm excited for KFC in a
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: few weeks to be able to see everyone from around
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: the world and to play some amazing Key Forge. But
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: I'm also excited that we're going to get to hear
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: more about the KFO. And so I'm sure we'll talk
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: about more in the future, but I think that is
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: a perfect spot to be able to see, hey, let's
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: see what else is going to come from it.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: More than likely, I'll stream most of these because that's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: what I do. I've streamed all the other past events.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I've tried to get the best audio I could. We'll
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: try again this year. I know it's been tough in
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: years past. They won't. For whatever reason, they won't let
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: me mic the talkers, but it is what it is.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: They say it interferes with their stuff, and I'm like,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how my mic interferes with your, like
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: it shouldn't interfere at all. Or do you, like, I
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: don't know, whatever. It is what it is, but it
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: is the bottom of the ninth. They're up six to four.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I need to go watch a celebration, it sounds like.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many outs are left in this game,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: but this is now getting exciting, boys.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Brewers.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: And with that being said, we will see you all
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Happy Forging, everyone.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: May the Forge be with you. See you at KFZ, everyone.