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Is Jeremiah Smith About To Make History Again? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Tuesday, July. First time
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  Speaker 1: your host Tom or the Texas game in sixty days,
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  Speaker 1: We are three weeks exactly away from the start of
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  Speaker 1: Big ten Media Days, and on Monday we found out
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  Speaker 1: which three players the Ohius Did Buckeyes are bringing to
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  Speaker 1: Las Vegas for Big ten Media Days, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be talking about that with our buddy Tony Gerdaman a
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  Speaker 1: Fuckehadle dot com because a lot of times those guys
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  Speaker 1: who end up showing up at Big ten Media Days
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  Speaker 1: end up also showing up on the list of team
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  Speaker 1: captains when those are announced. Tony three names going to
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  Speaker 1: Las Vegas feels like we this may be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of preview, and we're gonna talking about the captains
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  Speaker 1: on today's show, so let people know who will be
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  Speaker 1: joining us in Las Vegas in just three weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the Ohio State contingent going to Las Vegas. Linebackers
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  Speaker 2: Sonny Styles, safety Caleb Downs, wide receiver Jeremiah Smith, And
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  Speaker 2: I'm I was surprised, Yes, these are the three guys
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  Speaker 2: that should go, right, Like, these are the three guys
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  Speaker 2: that people want to talk to. But I was pretty
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  Speaker 2: surprised to see Jeremiah Smith on there because I cannot
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  Speaker 2: remember a sophomore ever going for Ohio State, even even
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  Speaker 2: when J. G. Barrett was a red shirt sophomore and
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  Speaker 2: a returning starting quarterback, he didn't go. But like, this
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  Speaker 2: was a bit of a surprise to me, and that
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  Speaker 2: the guys that you'd actually the people would want to
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  Speaker 2: actually talk to are the same guys that are going.
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  Speaker 2: It's a brand new daytime.
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  Speaker 1: It is, And you know, there's some stuff that's different
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  Speaker 1: this year. For sure. One of them is Ohio State's
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  Speaker 1: never sent a sophomore to Big ten media days, or
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  Speaker 1: hasn't for a long time anyway. Ohio State hasn't had
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  Speaker 1: a sophomore like this for quite a while as well,
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  Speaker 1: So that's one thing that's different. You also, you tend
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  Speaker 1: to have the stoic senior leaders on the team. Those
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  Speaker 1: are often the guys who go and you know, not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily the flashiest names, but the guys who are you know,
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  Speaker 1: been the good soldiers and stuck it out for four
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  Speaker 1: years or five years and you know, sort of stoic
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  Speaker 1: veteran leaders, and those are the guys who typically go.
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  Speaker 1: There just aren't that many of those on this year's team,
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  Speaker 1: because you got to remember, last year's team was loaded
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  Speaker 1: with those guys. You could have set twelve guys on
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  Speaker 1: last year's team, loaded with fourth year senior leadership types.
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  Speaker 1: This year it is a younger team. It is a
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  Speaker 1: very new team, a new look team. Some of the
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  Speaker 1: bigger names on both sides of the ball are transfers
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  Speaker 1: or our first year starters. So you know, the a sophomore,
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  Speaker 1: a true sophomore who has you know, twelve hundred or
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  Speaker 1: whatever yards to his name, well, that counts as a
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  Speaker 1: veteran on this year's team, even though he was in
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  Speaker 1: high school eighteen months ago. So so if we you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think there is a pretty decent correlation between guys
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  Speaker 1: who have gone to this event and guys who have
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  Speaker 1: ended up being captains, because these are sort of leadership
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  Speaker 1: roles and guys being rewarded for taking tam leadership roles.
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  Speaker 1: I think I look at these three guys and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it would be very unusual for a sophomore to be
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  Speaker 1: a captain. I also don't know that I want to
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  Speaker 1: ever get into the business as saying yeah, no, Jeremiah
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  Speaker 1: Smith can't do that. That feels like that is a
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  Speaker 1: losing bet. What do you think are all three of
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  Speaker 1: these guys ultimately team captains this year?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tom, I fear like I don't think Jeremiah Smith
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  Speaker 2: should be a team captain. You are the guy that
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  Speaker 2: is the one Baseball voter who doesn't put.
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  Speaker 3: The the automatic guy in, Like, ah, I think Aarin
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  Speaker 3: was good, but you know, let's just I need one
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  Speaker 3: more year to be convinced that he should be in.
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  Speaker 3: And that's kind of the way it is with Jeremiah
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  Speaker 3: Smith because he's the two time Iron Buckeye. He's I
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  Speaker 3: judge maturity and touchdown catches, and he's fifteen mature basically like.
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  Speaker 2: Everything that you could want from a player, he is.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the on field, that's the off field, it's
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  Speaker 2: the preparation. So all of these qualities you want in
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  Speaker 2: your captain, you and your captains. You see there, and
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  Speaker 2: so it's like, yeah, he's a sophomore, but even the
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  Speaker 2: upper classmen hold him in high regard and look up
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  Speaker 2: to him and realize, Okay, because he might be the
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  Speaker 2: highest paid player on the team. I don't think anybody
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  Speaker 2: nobody's bothered by that. It's like, you know, what has
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  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith done to earn this money? It's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: he's got highlights everywhere. You've seen it, Like you see
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  Speaker 2: the work, you see the iron bucket, you see this,
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  Speaker 2: you see the practices, you see all of this, and
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  Speaker 2: nobody begrudges him anything. So I think it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be fascinating to see how the voting turns out. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, and years past where they've had you know,
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  Speaker 2: six or seven or eight captains or whatever. I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if do they go back to that and get away
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  Speaker 2: from the four captains because like, yes, it's young, so
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  Speaker 2: maybe we need more to encapsulate that role or is
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  Speaker 2: it like yeah, but we're kind of getting into the
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  Speaker 2: weeds of who those eight are gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's kind of interesting because I think you've
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  Speaker 1: got a couple guys, you know, the other two guys
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  Speaker 1: before we move into that. Let's let's just real quickly
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  Speaker 1: touch on the other two guys who are kind of
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  Speaker 1: the two free spaces on the Bengo card. Fourth year, yes, somehow,
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  Speaker 1: fourth year linebacker Sonny Styles, who feels like he was
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  Speaker 1: just an early and rollly like eighteen months ago and
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  Speaker 1: is now going to be a senior this year. And
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Downs, who is very much you know, he was
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  Speaker 1: last year's version of the well he's only a sophomore,
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  Speaker 1: but boy, you know, probably being compensated fairly well, and
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  Speaker 1: no one seems to have any question about why, because
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  Speaker 1: you have the on field performance, you also have all
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  Speaker 1: the off field putting in, the hard work kind of
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  Speaker 1: stuff with him. He's in that Jeremiah Smith group where
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  Speaker 1: it's just I think the Jeremiah Smith group is a
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  Speaker 1: size of two, a population of two. But those are
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  Speaker 1: the two guys, so I think, you know, that's a
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  Speaker 1: guy who I think is sort of a free space
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  Speaker 1: on the Bengo card here as well. You've got on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, like unquestionably, these are
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  Speaker 1: the two guys who I think to me are the
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  Speaker 1: you know, going to be the guys there. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that you need a third guy there if you
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  Speaker 1: want to have one, that's fine on the offensive side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball. Jeremiah Smith will see he's he has
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  Speaker 1: typically not been the loud voice kind of leader. He's
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  Speaker 1: been the kind of lead by example kind of leader.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe making him a captain sort of almost pushes him
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  Speaker 1: into being the loud voice kind of leader. The really
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  Speaker 1: interesting question to me is if they do go with
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  Speaker 1: just four, who's the fourth guy. And you know, you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned Iron Buckeye earlier, and I wonder if the Iron
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  Speaker 1: Buckeye is kind of the tip off on who the
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  Speaker 1: other guy on the offensive side of the ball might be.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm going to go with Austin Seerveld here, who
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Days said in the spring. I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna be, but he's going to be starting on
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line, and I think from talk with people recently,
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  Speaker 2: he's just continued to be a standout. So I think
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about another young guy. He's a third year guy,
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  Speaker 2: and so as Caleb Caleb Downs and so this is
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  Speaker 2: going to be if it were to be Austin's Seafeld,
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  Speaker 2: or you could also Carson Hinsman was a former Iron
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  Speaker 2: Buckeye as well, and you'd love to have your center,
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  Speaker 2: your starting center, be a captain as well, because they
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  Speaker 2: basically are a captain of the offense having to do
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  Speaker 2: what they do. But if I'm picking one guy at
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  Speaker 2: this point, I'm probably going like sixty forty cierveld Hinsman.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, it feels like I mean, just let's
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  Speaker 1: talk for a minute about the way they typically do this.
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  Speaker 1: You're not typically going to have if you have two captains,
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  Speaker 1: you're not typically going to have two safeties or two linebackers.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to have guys in some different rooms. So
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  Speaker 1: you're not probably going to have two wide receivers on offense,
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  Speaker 1: so you're probably going to have someone from another group.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know who the starting quarterback is yet, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe the starting quarterback gets made a captain later or
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  Speaker 1: you know, becomes a fifth then later once you know
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  Speaker 1: who the starting quarterback is. Your running backs are a
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  Speaker 1: first year starter in James People's and a transfer in CJ. Donaldson.
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  Speaker 1: So those are you know, those are kind of the
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  Speaker 1: top two guys there, your tight ends. Could it be
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  Speaker 1: you know, Max Claire as a transfer. It would be
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  Speaker 1: a big surprise if you had a transfer, becoming captain
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  Speaker 1: before his first game. But I guess it's possible. Will Kasmerrick,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is a possibility. He's a senior this year,
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  Speaker 1: but again was a transfer. Only a second year at
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State. Offensive line Ethan o'leon well was a transfer,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Taker Shabola is a possibility. He's been a
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  Speaker 1: starter for a couple of years. Luke Montgomery, you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of a first year starter. He kind of was
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  Speaker 1: a starter last year. There's there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: gray area there, but yeah, I think to me, if
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  Speaker 1: it's four guys, it's the three guys you bring into
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  Speaker 1: Big ten media days. And as you said, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's an argument for Carson Hinsman or Austin Sierravel there,
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  Speaker 1: and you could, you know, your arguments for plenty of
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  Speaker 1: other guys as well. But what do you think is
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  Speaker 1: the most likely number? And who do you think it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be. Do you think it's for Do you
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  Speaker 1: think it's more than four?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I could see it being six to get
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  Speaker 2: a guy like Carnel Tate in there, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: because like you said, if it's four, you don't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: want two receivers, you know, that's just so I could
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  Speaker 2: see it going six, and that way you could reward
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  Speaker 2: defensively like a Davis Nickmunosen or Kenyada Jackson, because again
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  Speaker 2: I go back to the NFL combine the defensive lineman there,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about the leadership of Kenyada Jackson, so something
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  Speaker 2: like that. And he's a fourth year guy. So I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked if it's If it's six, just because
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  Speaker 2: maybe the votes are more spread out and they are
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  Speaker 2: as heavily weighted at the maybe they're not as top
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  Speaker 2: heavy over the course of you know, like just four guys.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll say six, but in a four seemed to
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  Speaker 2: work out last year, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, things turned out okay for the twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State football team. There's a hot take for you.
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  Speaker 1: But the way they do it is they it'll typically
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  Speaker 1: be is there a big drop off, It's almost like
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  Speaker 1: the Heisman voting. If there's a big drop off off
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  Speaker 1: between three and four, only three guys are going to
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  Speaker 1: get invited to New York for the Heisman. If the
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  Speaker 1: big drop off between four and five, four guys are
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  Speaker 1: getting invited. If there's a big drop off between four
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  Speaker 1: and five in the voting, you're probably gonna have four captains.
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  Speaker 1: There's a big drop off happens between five and six
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  Speaker 1: or six and seven. That's probably where the cut line is,
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  Speaker 1: to use a golf term. But that's so we'll find out.
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  Speaker 1: This is more of a fall camp thing usually, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're probably a little bit away from that.
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  Speaker 1: But the announcement of the guys headed two Big Ten
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  Speaker 1: media days certainly is the first kind of big tell
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  Speaker 1: here beyond the hey, Caleb Downs. You could probably have
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  Speaker 1: written that one in sharpie about middle of last season.
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Downs is going to be a captain in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, So you can now, right it's probably in that.
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  Speaker 1: You can go over the sharpie, trace it over again
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  Speaker 1: and write his name again, and then we'll have We'll
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  Speaker 1: let you know for sure when that announcement gets made.
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  Speaker 1: But between now and then, there's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. Is a busy recruiting week for Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: Got some potential commitments coming a little later on this week,
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of other players making disc in the
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  Speaker 1: coming weeks, and then yes, three weeks from today, the
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes will be in Las Vegas for Big Ten media days.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be a lot to talk about there, very very
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  Speaker 1: interesting year in the Big Ten and James Franklin and
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  Speaker 1: Penn State finally get over the hump, Ken Oregon finally
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  Speaker 1: get over the hump in the postseason. All sorts of
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  Speaker 1: questions plus cousive questions around the Ohio State football team
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  Speaker 1: as well. We'll be talking about all of that for
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  Speaker 1: That'll do it for today. Thank you guys all for
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  Speaker 1: joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to tomorrow.