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Stateside Episode 2 with Mark Anderson · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: And welcome to the second round, the second edition of Stateside.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your roving reporter, Mark Anderson for UK Column, and
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  Speaker 1: I have done extensive traveling lately. I mentioned that in
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  Speaker 1: the first round of Stateside, and that continued. Eastern Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: Western Ohio, across Indiana, through the boot heel of Missouri,
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  Speaker 1: through Arkansas, through the Ozarks, down to Texas. Talked to
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  Speaker 1: lots of people, saw lots of things, lots of ideas
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  Speaker 1: coming up. And one of my stops, as promised in
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  Speaker 1: the first stateside, was Saline Township, Michigan. It's about 25
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  Speaker 1: miles south of Ann Arbor in the greater Detroit area.
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  Speaker 1: And that, of course, was to see Godzilla. But, of course,
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  Speaker 1: that's a metaphor for for the Saline Township data center
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  Speaker 1: that's going up, and it's been called the barn. And
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  Speaker 1: is it Bain or Boone, that barn, right? That's the
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  Speaker 1: question to ask. Anyway, it's a $ 16 billion facility, as
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned, and it has an estimated demand of 1.4 gigawatts.
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  Speaker 1: That's a power requirement. And it's supposed to house what
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  Speaker 1: is reportedly called the Stargate project, And that, of course,
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  Speaker 1: is a cooperative thing between three-time Bilderberg attendee Sam Altman
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  Speaker 1: and his OpenAI and Larry Ellison's Oracle company. And it
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  Speaker 1: is a massive, massive thing. My wife and I, Angie
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  Speaker 1: and I, finally rolled into the Saline area. And we
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  Speaker 1: were wondering exactly where the construction site is for this monster.
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  Speaker 1: 250-acre footprint. up to 700 acres. There might be some
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  Speaker 1: land set aside, as I had mentioned before, for kind
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  Speaker 1: of a natural setting to appease or soothe the natives,
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  Speaker 1: the peasants. And at any rate, as we get into town,
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  Speaker 1: beautiful day, beautiful town, a quintessential American middle-class town, middle size,
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  Speaker 1: you might say. We get into town, and as soon
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  Speaker 1: as I get into the main drag, main street that
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  Speaker 1: goes through the middle of it, Here come the cement trucks.
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  Speaker 1: Here come the gravel trucks. I knew right where to go.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have to ask hardly anyone, except I talked
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  Speaker 1: to some people at the gas station there, the speedway,
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  Speaker 1: to try and get their take on things. And a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the people I talked to are ambivalent. On
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  Speaker 1: the one hand, they're kind of hoping, maybe even vainly so,
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  Speaker 1: that this thing will bring some needed jobs in a
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  Speaker 1: higher paying range. And yet they sense that something very
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  Speaker 1: unprecedented and somewhat hard to understand is happening. At any rate,
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  Speaker 1: I gather some opinions and I finally head west out
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  Speaker 1: of town following these large cement and gravel hauling trucks.
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  Speaker 1: And about four miles west of town, there it is,
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  Speaker 1: this massive piece of land. And residents, of course, are
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  Speaker 1: mad about the aggressive construction schedule. These trucks make quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit of noise. They stir up quite a bit
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  Speaker 1: of dust. And there's ongoing water and electrical capacity concerns,
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  Speaker 1: of course. We've heard about this. And I talked last
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  Speaker 1: time about something on the other side of the state
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  Speaker 1: in the town of Dowagiac, operational noise once these things
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  Speaker 1: are up and running. And that one on the west
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  Speaker 1: side of the state, this one being on the east side,
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  Speaker 1: is a smaller data center. So you can imagine the
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  Speaker 1: noise that the larger ones may make. At any rate,
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  Speaker 1: here is a video clip of me on the scene.
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  Speaker 1: You can hear me but can't see me, but just
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  Speaker 1: to get kind of a feel for the size and
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  Speaker 1: scope of this thing at the construction site.
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  Speaker 2: And this is Mark Anderson, UK column, on the last
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  Speaker 2: day of July 2026. Finally made it to what you
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  Speaker 2: can see is the Saline Township AI data center that's
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  Speaker 2: under construction, The Barn. That's to have three 550,000 square
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  Speaker 2: foot buildings and 250 acres minimum, up to 700 acres.
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  Speaker 2: Some of that supposedly will be set aside for a
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  Speaker 2: nature reserve type thing. or keeping things in a natural
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  Speaker 2: state as much as possible. I've seen lots of cement
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  Speaker 2: trucks going back and forth and gravel hauling trucks. You
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  Speaker 2: can see that in this video. And that is a
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  Speaker 2: good idea of what it looks like at this point
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  Speaker 2: in time as August 1st comes around.
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  Speaker 1: So you can see it covers quite a bit of
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  Speaker 1: land and that was latter July, early August, so you
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  Speaker 1: can imagine how much it's progressed by now when things
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  Speaker 1: are being built at that pace. Now, one of the
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  Speaker 1: upsides of this is you have many conservatives and independents
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  Speaker 1: joining the political liberals in questioning not just power capacity
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  Speaker 1: and noise and possible water pollution, but to some extent,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe not enough, looking at the larger philosophical questions
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  Speaker 1: of regarding these data centers, regarding questions of surveillance, regarding
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  Speaker 1: questions of privacy, regarding questions of whether these things will
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  Speaker 1: become an authority unto themselves. And when I talk to
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  Speaker 1: people about those sorts of questions, they're not quite as
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  Speaker 1: familiar with them. They don't seem to be thinking about
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  Speaker 1: those things quite as much. But a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: tell me that they are concerned and that sometimes that
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  Speaker 1: does come to mind. And at any rate, it does
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  Speaker 1: bring about some unity among people that would otherwise be
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  Speaker 1: political opponents. And of course, the powers that be don't
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  Speaker 1: want to see too much of that. So while the
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  Speaker 1: area residents around Saline Township are also angry at the
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  Speaker 1: township board for recently rezoning the land, which made this
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  Speaker 1: large open AI Oracle data center possible in the first place,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want that rezoning to happen. Nevertheless, the larger
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  Speaker 1: questions are looming. And of course, it's very important to
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  Speaker 1: consider those. And those questions have to do with AI companies,
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  Speaker 1: such as Anthropic, that are buying up massive amounts of
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  Speaker 1: classic books, old books, you know, original knowledge written by
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  Speaker 1: their authors, authors that felt that, of course, why wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: they that their work would be permanent, a permanent, unaltered
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  Speaker 1: record of what they cared about when they wrote those books.
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  Speaker 1: So at any rate, these larger questions are something that
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  Speaker 1: we have to look at, whether we're looking at data
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  Speaker 1: centers in the United States, in the UK, in Europe.
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  Speaker 1: And I mentioned on the first state side how these
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  Speaker 1: things are proliferating like crazy. It's practically a data center
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  Speaker 1: invasion on both sides of the pond. So let us
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  Speaker 1: not forget beyond all the noise concerns and capacity concerns,
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  Speaker 1: that we could be looking at something that will become
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  Speaker 1: a monster that we don't know how to tame or
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  Speaker 1: a monster that we don't know how to cage if
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  Speaker 1: we're not very, very careful. Like money, information must be
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  Speaker 1: our servant, not our master, and especially the way we
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  Speaker 1: archive and store information, epistemology as it's basically known. So
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  Speaker 1: AI companies, like Anthropic, through their Project Panama, have been purchasing,
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  Speaker 1: as I'm noting here, physical books in bulk, cutting off
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  Speaker 1: the spines, and scanning them high speed for AI training
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  Speaker 1: and other needs, and then recycling or destroying the physical copies.
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  Speaker 1: And Anthropic co-founders, it just so happens, Dario Omode and
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  Speaker 1: Jack Clark, each have participated at recent Bilderberg meetings, as
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  Speaker 1: has OpenAI's Sam Altman. So while you can't go too
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  Speaker 1: far with that and reach too many conclusions, it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: true that Bilderberg's fingerprints are involved in this, and that
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  Speaker 1: makes sense in terms of my analysis and UK Column's
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  Speaker 1: general analysis of Bilderberg, that Bilderberg has become much less
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  Speaker 1: about transatlantic relations and much more about infrastructure of the
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  Speaker 1: world governance system. the communication systems, the military systems, the
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  Speaker 1: command and control systems, the food systems, things like that,
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  Speaker 1: in association with the World Economic Forum, in association with
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  Speaker 1: various think tanks and movers and shakers and key intel
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  Speaker 1: and other government agencies. But the anthropic company, among many others,
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  Speaker 1: is involved in what is known or what's described as
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  Speaker 1: a destructive scanning process, There's a buying spree. AI firms
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  Speaker 1: and proxy buyers are purchasing thousands of used, out-of-print, and
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  Speaker 1: older physical books, partly because pre-2022 text is valued as clean,
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  Speaker 1: and that means basically unpolluted by AI-generated content. Now, we
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  Speaker 1: might think that they'll simply copy the physical books and
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  Speaker 1: they'll be JPEGs of those pages and not be alterable,
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  Speaker 1: but Diane Rasmussen, who of course is UK Columns, you
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  Speaker 1: might say resident librarian and reporter, who has a degree
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  Speaker 1: in library science, that sort of thing. Her and others
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  Speaker 1: I've spoken with recently and over the years about various
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  Speaker 1: issues have talked about the idea of going totally digital
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that physical books could become practically a
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  Speaker 1: thing of the past reminds me of a scene with
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  Speaker 1: Rod Taylor very distant in the future in the classic
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  Speaker 1: 1960 movie The Time Machine. At any rate, if books
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  Speaker 1: become basically a thing of the past or a total anachronism,
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  Speaker 1: and they're all recorded digitally and everything is housed in
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  Speaker 1: these libraries called huge data centers throughout the world, then
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  Speaker 1: if the original works are lost, you'd have nothing to
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  Speaker 1: compare them to with the digital works. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: as the digital works might be modified and history rewritten,
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  Speaker 1: we would have fewer and fewer of the original history
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  Speaker 1: books and other works by which to make a comparison
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  Speaker 1: and make sure that we still have an accurate record
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  Speaker 1: of history, as bad as our historical record is now.
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  Speaker 1: History is written by the winners, of course. So, there's
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  Speaker 1: a number of things going on with that. The courts
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  Speaker 1: have generally ruled that buying a physical book and changing
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  Speaker 1: its format through scanning and destroying the original copy can
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  Speaker 1: fall under the legal fair use protections. But there are
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  Speaker 1: a number of people, critics, historians, rare booksellers, and others
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  Speaker 1: who are challenging those notions. So this is the real
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  Speaker 1: issue with data centers such as Saline Township, Michigan, and
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  Speaker 1: others like it. And it's high time that we keep
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  Speaker 1: that in mind and focus our activism efforts in that
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  Speaker 1: general direction today. and not get lost in the more sundry,
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  Speaker 1: miscellaneous concerns, as valid as they may be, about noise
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  Speaker 1: and pollution and whatnot. Because sometimes that's as if to say,
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  Speaker 1: as long as you're not too noisy, as long as
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  Speaker 1: you don't kick up too much dust, we can just
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  Speaker 1: have this 1984 Brave New World kind of way of
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  Speaker 1: storing and assessing information and not worry too much about it,
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  Speaker 1: as long as you give us some jobs and throw
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  Speaker 1: us some scraps. We've got to be very careful about
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  Speaker 1: in terms of our mentality and our approach to this issue.
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  Speaker 1: So at any rate, of course, I'm having my English
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  Speaker 1: tea in an authentic English-made cup, I might add. Moving
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  Speaker 1: on to the next topic, what we have, and this
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  Speaker 1: hasn't gotten a whole lot of press in the alternative media,
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  Speaker 1: we have President Trump having passed Executive Order 14407, and
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  Speaker 1: it's entitled Delivering Gold Standard Childhood Vaccine Recommendations for Americans. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on here? Is the Donald actually distancing us,
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  Speaker 1: the American people in this case, from the vaccine regime?
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  Speaker 1: Is he trying to put in a firewall from a
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  Speaker 1: regime that did untold damage during the so-called COVID pandemic?
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to say for sure, and it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: say how long that these changes and recommendations will last.
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  Speaker 1: The Trumpster can only serve so much longer. Constitutionally, he's
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  Speaker 1: out around 2028 and can't serve again, and much of
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  Speaker 1: what he's doing now could be undone. Let's hope not,
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  Speaker 1: for it does seem to be a step in the
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  Speaker 1: right direction. Now, recall that President Trump, and this was
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  Speaker 1: often from some of his own MAGA supporters, was at
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  Speaker 1: times bitterly criticized for being instrumental, by all indications, in
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  Speaker 1: enabling Big Pharma to strengthen the vaccine regime, mainly via
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  Speaker 1: his May 2020 Operation Warp Speed public-private partnership to fast-track
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  Speaker 1: the COVID-19 vaccines. A very regrettable chapter. Anyway, evidently he's
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  Speaker 1: adopted a new and quite different vaccine policy direction. It
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  Speaker 1: appears so anyway. And Executive Order 14407 not only reaffirms
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  Speaker 1: and expands upon prior directives regarding core childhood vaccine recommendations,
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  Speaker 1: it also specifies that COVID-19 vaccines may be purely optional
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  Speaker 1: and relegated only to personal and family choice in conjunction
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  Speaker 1: with the clinic or your doctor. So it's basically unmandating
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  Speaker 1: the COVID-19 vaccine for childhood vaccine or immunization schedules. A
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  Speaker 1: move in the right direction, yes, credit where credit's due.
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  Speaker 1: The core change is that the order realigns and updates
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  Speaker 1: the overall federal childhood immunization policies to reduce the universally recommended,
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  Speaker 1: you might say mandated, routine vaccines from 18 down to 11.
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  Speaker 1: A notable change to be sure. Conventional medicine, however, like
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  Speaker 1: the American Academy of Pediatrics and many others, are in
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  Speaker 1: a tizzy. I was yesterday reading PBS, CBS, Reuters, and
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  Speaker 1: a number of other sources, of course, all of it's
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  Speaker 1: the same. The articles or the reports simply say very
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  Speaker 1: briefly what Trump did, and the rest of the articles
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  Speaker 1: are nothing but wall-to-wall criticism. So basically, they stand Trump
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  Speaker 1: up and just start taking potshots at him regarding this issue.
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  Speaker 1: At any rate, one of the key things besides what
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  Speaker 1: I've talked about, reducing the number of vaccines and all that,
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  Speaker 1: and unmandating COVID-19 is that the order elevates the overall
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  Speaker 1: concept of parental decision-making and really elevates informed consent pretty
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  Speaker 1: much across the board. The executive order also challenges states,
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  Speaker 1: and some of this is done through the Attorney General's office,
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  Speaker 1: it's challenging the 50 states to firmly uphold parents' religious
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  Speaker 1: objections to vaccinations whenever those are invoked. So we're looking
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  Speaker 1: pretty good here, all things considered. And in terms of
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  Speaker 1: separate jabs, because of course some vaccines involve more than
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  Speaker 1: one jab, when we talk about going from 18 to 11,
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  Speaker 1: some of those involve more than one shot. There are
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  Speaker 1: several vaccines to which American kids and adolescents are subjected,
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  Speaker 1: and the number can be very high. The number can
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  Speaker 1: in fact be as high as in the 80s or 90s,
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  Speaker 1: and that number could drop very significantly in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the number of individual jabs. And according to Children's Health Defense,
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  Speaker 1: for which Health and Human Services Chief Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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  Speaker 1: used to be the leader, he's the founder of it,
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  Speaker 1: according to Children's Health Defense and other sources, this executive
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  Speaker 1: order categorizes immunizations into three categories, universal high risk, which
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  Speaker 1: is the ones the government still says you really should have,
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  Speaker 1: and shared clinical decision-making tiers. Actually, it's three things, universal
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  Speaker 1: high risk and shared clinical decision-making tiers, to be totally
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  Speaker 1: clear on that. So those are the three, universal high
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  Speaker 1: risk and shared clinical decision-making. And MMR, the measles, mumps,
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  Speaker 1: rubella vaccine, and I'll mention this just briefly, traditionally since
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  Speaker 1: the 1970s has been one shot for all of it,
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  Speaker 1: a package deal. That, for good or ill, and it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to sort out just exactly how that will work out,
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  Speaker 1: but that one, under Trump's executive order and his recommendations
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  Speaker 1: and his appeals to the states, That one will be separated.
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  Speaker 1: You'll have separate measles, separate mumps, separate rubella shots. But
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  Speaker 1: the medical community, and maybe they're correct in this in
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  Speaker 1: a way, they're complaining that the actual separate shots for
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  Speaker 1: those don't actually exist right now and would have to
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  Speaker 1: be manufactured. So that would actually give the vaccine industry
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  Speaker 1: an incentive to up its production to make more vaccines
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  Speaker 1: for MMR, but as separate shots, And then there'd be
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  Speaker 1: more hypodermics needed and the shots would be spread out
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  Speaker 1: over long periods of time. So children, according to Trump,
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  Speaker 1: aren't getting so much vaccine at once. That seems to
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  Speaker 1: be the rationale on the Trump side of the equation. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: there's the hardships that the doctors and the medical community
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  Speaker 1: and the vaccine industry is talking about that I just mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: But Trump is saying if you spread it out, you're
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  Speaker 1: not giving all the kids so many jabs. at one time.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's how that's panning out. So it's all very,
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  Speaker 1: very interesting. And we have some other topics to consider. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: I'll mention, and I'll be picking this up next time
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  Speaker 1: on Stateside, there are some important immigration bills coming up,
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  Speaker 1: very pivotal ones that could grant More legal status to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: those who are here illegally already in return for more
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: border security and national security measures, kind of a compromise.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be looking at that very soon on the next
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  Speaker 1: state side, so stay tuned for that. There's border wall
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  Speaker 1: sections stacked up in yards and warehouses also. over the
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  Speaker 1: South Texas area where I live called the Rio Grande Valley,
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  Speaker 1: a four-county area that borders Mexico. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: those fence sections have been moved. We'll be tracking where
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  Speaker 1: they've went. Are they being re-erected? Are they being scrapped
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  Speaker 1: and thrown away? Hidalgo County, where I live, The county
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  Speaker 1: has done some drain work and has claimed that federal
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: work on the border fence has interfered with drainage work,
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  Speaker 1: and the county itself declared a moratorium on federal installment,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's done through contractors or not or by the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Army Corps of Engineers, on federal installment for border wall
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  Speaker 1: and border fence sections. So those are some other miscellaneous
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  Speaker 1: issues that are being worked out as we speak. At
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  Speaker 1: any rate, The other matters that I'll leave you with today,
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  Speaker 1: the main thing is that the late Congressman John William
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  Speaker 1: Wright Patman came to mind recently as I was traveling
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  Speaker 1: through South Texas. I got part of the way into
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  Speaker 1: Texas recently and I came across a Wright Patman Lake
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  Speaker 1: and it's named after that late Congressman whose death in
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  Speaker 1: 1976 was 50 years ago this year. And Wright-Patman was
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  Speaker 1: one of the towering figures in the U.S. Congress in
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  Speaker 1: the 1930s, and he had legendary debates with then Fed
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  Speaker 1: Chairman Mariner Echols. And Mariner Echols would insist to Wright-Patman
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  Speaker 1: that you cannot convert to a U.S. currency, a debt-free U.S. currency,
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  Speaker 1: as Patman suggested. and use that new money that itself
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  Speaker 1: was debt-free to reduce and eliminate federal debts and supercharge
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  Speaker 1: the economy without creating a bunch of interest-bearing debt. Echols,
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  Speaker 1: of course, as Fed Chairman, echoed the constant refrain that
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  Speaker 1: you hear from the central bankers, that being that any
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  Speaker 1: move like what Patman was suggesting, if that were to happen,
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  Speaker 1: then you would have runaway inflation, and all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden the dollar would be worthless and the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: would just grind to a halt. There's very little reason
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  Speaker 1: to believe that that's true, and Patman really stood up
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  Speaker 1: for the working man. When I was in Congress a
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  Speaker 1: few short years ago, and I still have credentials that
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  Speaker 1: are still active to cover Congress, I went often to
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  Speaker 1: room 2128 in the And that's where the former Banking
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  Speaker 1: and Currency Committee would meet. That same committee still exists
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  Speaker 1: under a much more generic sounding name. But there's a
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  Speaker 1: large picture of Mr. Patman. And we're looking at a
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  Speaker 1: picture of him here as we speak, along with a
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  Speaker 1: very interesting priest we'll talk about in a moment, Father
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  Speaker 1: Charles Coughlin. But there's a painting of Mr. Patman that
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  Speaker 1: closely resembles and may in fact be the very same
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  Speaker 1: picture you're seeing here, resembles the one that's on the
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  Speaker 1: wall in the Rayburn building in room 2128. And that's
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  Speaker 1: a very, very special place where some of the best
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  Speaker 1: congressmen the U.S. has ever had, Patman being among them,
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  Speaker 1: Louis McFadden of Pennsylvania being another before him, they fought tooth, fang,
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  Speaker 1: and claw, you might say, for the American taxpayer, trying
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  Speaker 1: to get a more people-friendly populist system put in. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the Reverend Charles Coughlin, who we just saw a picture
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  Speaker 1: of along with Wright Patman, now he, 110 years ago,
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  Speaker 1: was ordained a priest in Canada. He was a Canadian-born priest,
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  Speaker 1: and it was 100 years ago that his Royal Oak,
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  Speaker 1: Michigan parish near Detroit was established, of course, in 1926.
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  Speaker 1: And that grew to a magnificent number octagonal type church,
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  Speaker 1: a one-of-a-kind church called the National Shrine of the Little
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  Speaker 1: Flower Basilica. And it is a place to behold. It
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  Speaker 1: has crucifixion tower, a massive tower well over 100 feet
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  Speaker 1: tall that has the archangels, many of the key archangels
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  Speaker 1: chiseled right into it. And in that tower, some 100
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  Speaker 1: years ago, just under 100 years ago, Father Charles Edward
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  Speaker 1: Coughlin would do radio sermons that, in the tradition of Wright-Patman,
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  Speaker 1: in the tradition of Lewis McFadden, would reach out over
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  Speaker 1: the entire United States, ultimately with an audience of some
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  Speaker 1: 30 million people, when the U.S. population was, oh, roughly
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  Speaker 1: half of what it is now. Can you imagine the impact?
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  Speaker 1: At any rate, Father Coughlin battled the banking establishment and
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  Speaker 1: the governments that it corrupted while fighting for a just
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  Speaker 1: and honest monetary system for the poor and everyone else.
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  Speaker 1: Yet to this day, the Catholic Church at large and
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  Speaker 1: even the local diocese in Detroit tend to dismiss him
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  Speaker 1: or keep him at arm's length in terms of his
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  Speaker 1: radio sermon background, and they only acknowledge him for helping
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  Speaker 1: put together the blueprints and the plans. for that basilica
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  Speaker 1: that I have visited many times. And in fairly recent travels,
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  Speaker 1: say two, three years ago, I talked to a Mr.
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  Speaker 1: William Barnes there who was sitting in the sanctuary. And
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  Speaker 1: he told me that there are a number of older
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  Speaker 1: parishioners like himself who still believe in the legacy of
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  Speaker 1: Father Charles Coughlin, not just for founding that church, not
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  Speaker 1: for just, not for only being a very worthy and, um, um,
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  Speaker 1: inspiring man of God, but also for being the ardent
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  Speaker 1: activist that he was, really, really stepping up to the plate,
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  Speaker 1: unlike any priest before him and certainly since. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the pivotal things in the story of Charles Coughlin,
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  Speaker 1: before we see a very good video clip, is that
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  Speaker 1: his his priest at the Detroit Diocese at the time
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  Speaker 1: of Charles Coughlin's radio ministry, and the main years for
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  Speaker 1: that were 1930 to about 1942, the main bishop, that is,
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  Speaker 1: at the Detroit Diocese, Michael Gallagher, it was his support
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  Speaker 1: that kept Father Coughlin going. Father Coughlin would go on
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  Speaker 1: to found the National Union for Social Justice and Social
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  Speaker 1: Justice Magazine until finally FDR shut down the postal permit
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  Speaker 1: for the magazine, and the Catholic Church, after Bishop Gallagher died,
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  Speaker 1: a less sympathetic priest was put in in Gallagher's place
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  Speaker 1: who did not support what Charles Coughlin did, and that
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  Speaker 1: priest convinced Charles Coughlin, among other influences, to give up
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  Speaker 1: the radio ministry and the radio activism dealing with the
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  Speaker 1: Great Depression and and the banking and plutocratic machinations that
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  Speaker 1: brought that terrible event into being. And so with that,
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  Speaker 1: here is a clip of Father Charles Coughlin exactly 90
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  Speaker 1: years ago, 1936 in Cleveland, at a baseball stadium evidently,
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  Speaker 1: and as he would travel around the country away from
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  Speaker 1: his home base at the Royal Oak Church, he would
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  Speaker 1: fill entire stadiums. 10,000, 15,000 people would show up at
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  Speaker 1: a time. And sometimes he would be very exhausted from
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  Speaker 1: giving one live speech after another. And he would do
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  Speaker 1: it in conjunction with the Louisiana Kingfish, the well-known Huey
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  Speaker 1: Long at times, who became a U.S. Senator and was
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  Speaker 1: assassinated possibly for his financial and monetary activism. So with that,
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  Speaker 1: Here is Father Charles Coughlin speaking in Cleveland, Ohio. And
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  Speaker 1: when's the last time you heard a priest talk like this?
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  Speaker 1: Here we go.
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  Speaker 3: I dared you and challenged you.
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  Speaker 1: To organize things.
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  Speaker 3: So that the people, if not the president, would drive
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  Speaker 3: the money changers from the temple, and you did it!
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  Speaker 3: We are opposed to the printing press, and we are
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  Speaker 3: opposed to the fountain pens of the Federal Reserve bankers.
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  Speaker 3: Is that right? Who then is the inflationist? Roosevelt or
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  Speaker 3: the National Union?
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  Speaker 1: Roosevelt!
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  Speaker 3: More than a threat was required to gain our object
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  Speaker 3: of driving the managers from the temple? Why was more
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  Speaker 3: than a threat required? Watch the history of the 1934
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  Speaker 3: Banking Act In 1914, had been passed the Federal Reserve
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  Speaker 3: Banking Act, which handed over the right to coin and
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  Speaker 3: regulate money to a group of private individuals incorporated under
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  Speaker 3: the name of the Federal Reserve Bank. As we're still
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  Speaker 3: in our midst, shelterless children and shelterless men and women
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  Speaker 3: still knocked at our door for a pittance. The depression
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  Speaker 3: still waxed strong as the powers of deflation reached out
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  Speaker 3: to confiscate homes, to capture farms, and to keep that
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  Speaker 3: ever-marching army of jobless upon our streets. wondering when God
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  Speaker 3: in his mercy would lift his hand. Then came letters
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  Speaker 3: pouring into the offices of the National Union, asking for action.
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  Speaker 3: Then came November 1935, when motivated by your challenges, The
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  Speaker 3: American Federation of Labor has been going from factory to
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  Speaker 3: factory and door to door to build up its organization
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  Speaker 3: to help labor, and today they have less than 3
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  Speaker 3: million active members. And for 30 weeks, you ladies and
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  Speaker 3: gentlemen and more like you throughout this nation have been
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  Speaker 3: doing a similar job for a similar purpose and you
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  Speaker 3: have outstripped two American federations of labor. Oh, there was
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  Speaker 3: need for some action. You appreciate the fact, my dear friends,
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  Speaker 3: that among other things in the National Union for Social Justice,
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  Speaker 3: we are Christian in so far as we believe in
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  Speaker 3: Christ's principle of love your neighbor as yourself, and with
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  Speaker 3: that principle, I challenge every Jew in this nation to
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  Speaker 3: tell me that he does not believe in it. That states,
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  Speaker 3: to accept Christianity in all its entirety, but I am
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  Speaker 3: insisting since their system of a tooth for a tooth
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  Speaker 3: and an eye for an eye has failed to accept
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  Speaker 3: Christ's principle of brotherhood. Besides Christianity, we also lift aloft
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  Speaker 3: the flag of the United States, and swear all fealty,
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  Speaker 3: not only to the red, white, and blue, and those
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  Speaker 3: symbols within it, but to the Constitution which it represents
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  Speaker 3: in its entirety. the socialist who will amend it into nothingness,
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  Speaker 3: and the Republican and Democrat who will not admit that
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  Speaker 3: Congress alone has the right to coin and regulate money,
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  Speaker 3: I challenge one of the four of them to make
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  Speaker 3: the statement that I made. found on his accession to
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  Speaker 3: the presidential chair that the Federal Reserve Banks and their
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  Speaker 3: affiliates were, in the vernacular, broke. They had to run
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  Speaker 3: to the newly created Reconstruction Finance Corporation to borrow $ 2
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  Speaker 3: billion in order to keep the wolf from the door,
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  Speaker 3: and by the wolf, in their vocabulary, they meant the depositors.
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  Speaker 3: He and his propagandized news agencies accuse the National Union
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  Speaker 3: of being inflationary. How in the name of God do
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  Speaker 3: you fathers and mothers in this audience expect your little
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  Speaker 3: boys and girls 30 years from now, to pay back
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  Speaker 3: 72 billion hours of labor to those men who created
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  Speaker 3: it out of nothing. Are you going to leave this
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  Speaker 3: country worse than you found it, or are you going
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  Speaker 3: to fight for your children? from California to Maine, the
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  Speaker 3: people in the United States are still God-fearing, are still God-trusting,
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  Speaker 3: and are still willing to accept the theories of our
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  Speaker 3: Father who art in heaven? Indeed, if I may speak
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  Speaker 3: in plainer language of denying the right to private ownership,
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  Speaker 3: There is no need of communizing all the factories and
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  Speaker 3: the fields and the forests and the mines under a
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  Speaker 3: new kind of God made of flesh and blood and
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  Speaker 3: clay and hatred. When men become so prideful that they
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  Speaker 3: believe their destiny is to rewrite the eternal law of God,
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  Speaker 3: it's time for their fellow citizens to rise up in
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  Speaker 3: their wrath. The agency of ballots and not bullets to
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  Speaker 3: relegate them to the pages of the past.
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  Speaker 1: And you can see the passion there, the sheer determination
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  Speaker 1: by this priest to be heard, to get the people,
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  Speaker 1: to get their voices heard, to get the people motivated,
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  Speaker 1: to convince them that their actions at the time, through
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  Speaker 1: the National Union of Social Justice that he formed, which
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  Speaker 1: only lasted a couple years, but through that, he was
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  Speaker 1: having an enormous influence on Congress, and the people were
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  Speaker 1: actually being heard at a time before the internet, before
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  Speaker 1: television really had made any advancements at all. Radio and
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  Speaker 1: newspapers were the dominant media and yet 30 million radio
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  Speaker 1: listeners and people motivated, pretty much all in a concerted
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  Speaker 1: action about the same key monetary subjects, motivated to do
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  Speaker 1: the right thing and bring these plutocratic interests that had
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  Speaker 1: brought the Great Depression to bear. A very remarkable and
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  Speaker 1: almost forgotten chapter in American and world history, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: end with this note or this thought in this compendium
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  Speaker 1: of news and commentary known as Stateside, that thought being,
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  Speaker 1: that if AI becomes not a servant but a master,
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  Speaker 1: a force onto itself, and libraries that look like this,
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  Speaker 1: or data centers that look like this that are actually libraries,
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  Speaker 1: then become basically a thing of the past, and footage
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  Speaker 1: like what you've just seen could go down the memory
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  Speaker 1: hole or be altered in some way or destroyed, never
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  Speaker 1: to be seen again, and then things or activists like
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  Speaker 1: Father Charles Coughlin, people like that would be largely forgotten.
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  Speaker 1: And we can't let that happen. And that's why the
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  Speaker 1: AI story, the AI topic that I started with today
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  Speaker 1: is so important, way beyond just environmental and noise concerns
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  Speaker 1: and things like that. So thanks for listening to this
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  Speaker 1: second edition of Stateside. Stay tuned for the next one
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  Speaker 1: before too long. For UK Column, I'm Mark Anderson.