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I Drink And I Watch Things: Disclosure Day & Masters of the Universe · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  [music] Multiple nerdgasm.
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  >> I am going to apologize for my behavior today. [laughter]
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  >> What did you do? Something >> um I went to the movies three times.
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  >> Uh-huh. Okay, that's something. >> And when I go to the movies, I drink.
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  >> Oh, all right. Okay. >> So, I've seen three movies. So just that's like
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  what two and a half hours for the first one then like two hours for the next
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  two. So I've been at movies like six and a half hours today.
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  >> I see. And how many drinks per hour? >> I don't know per hour, but it's like
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  four per four per movie. >> Jesus. All right.
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  Do I want to ask how you get to and from the movies in such a situation?
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  >> I've you know those little kick scooters. >> Oh yeah. Okay. I I own one of them. So I
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  ride that to work. >> You can use one of those. >> I can use one of those. I just hop on
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  and off I go. You can use them with one leg. >> Yeah. Okay. All right.
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  >> So I ride to work. I park there and then I walk through movies. >> Okay. All right.
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  >> I could walk through movies, but that would take me like an extra seven minutes. So
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  >> yeah, don't want to waste seven minutes. >> Yep.
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  >> Also, their scooters are kind of cool. Uh for listeners or watchers who don't
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  know, Luke does have both legs. One of them's just not as useful as the other.
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  >> Yeah, the other one's pretty [ __ ] and I want to get rid of it.
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  >> Yeah, he's working on that. >> I'm working on it. I just got to find the right surgeon.
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  So, I've seen a lot of movies this week. >> All right, let's I mean, let's start
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  with some movie talk then. What have you seen? What I mean, you can choose the
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  order. I mean, >> I'll go in order of what I saw them.
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  >> All right, let's go. Scary movie. >> Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anna Ferris is back.
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  >> I love Anna Ferris. The actress who played her daughter
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  is I it felt like it was actually her daughter like >> Yeah. Right.
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  >> sounded the same with the way that she talism like acting like all hands down.
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  >> It's a scary movie. Movie. >> Yeah. It's I mean I you made it sound
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  like just oh you know the the actress who played her daughter you know so
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  convincing such a great I mean it's [ __ ] scary movie it's like
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  >> I haven't even seen it and I I know it's going to be silly.
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  >> I actually wish they had have gone further. I I think they sort of held back.
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  >> Oh really? >> Yeah. So the Wayne brothers are back cuz
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  they disappeared for a few and that was a bit of a joke throughout. Okay. They
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  weren't part of a few of the scary movies, but it was just a scary movie
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  movie. And the whole making fun of the whole reboot, not reboot, like the Did
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  they call it a rebootable? >> So, it's not like a brand new, they're bringing like I know
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  what you did last summer, but like they're bringing new characters in with
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  the old and that was a whole bit of a joke to it, but it's Yeah, you can
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  honestly you don't need to go to a movie to see a scary movie movie. No, the
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  first scary movie I watched uh I back
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  when Dave and I lived in Eastwood, we were borrowing cable from upstairs to
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  use their cable internet cuz this is this is in the 90s. Internet was not
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  what it is now. Um these guys had fast internet and the alternative for us was
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  dialup. Anyway, so I hooked up to and then I found some war's website and I
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  downloaded and I watched a cam >> filmed version of scary movie.
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  >> I remember when like like day one like now it's a lot different but back in the
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  day like if you were to download a movie which is wrong but if you download a
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  movie day one it was a horrible handy cam y >> people walking in front of it you could
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  hear the audience. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I was a horrible person. I downloaded a movie
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  >> and I watched it. Uh in my defense wasn't a great way to watch it. [laughter]
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  I don't I think that's that might be the first and only cam I I ever watched
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  because [ __ ] that. >> I've seen a few cams and I just what
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  what is the point of them? Like how are you enjoying watching it like this?
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  >> That's terrible. Especially if it's like a movie you really want to see, which I mean I
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  >> I'm fortunate enough that I could just go to the movies if it's a movie I
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  really want to see at the movies, but like you know what I mean? Like >> Yeah.
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  >> Then if it was like >> Project Hail Mary or something like why
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  why would you watch a cam of that? that >> or like Superman or something where it's like
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  >> just ruin it. >> Yes. Um >> people do. >> But yeah, so so I saw that.
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  >> All right. So Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right.
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  >> Second movie I saw He-Man or Masters of the Universe.
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  >> Go and see this movie. >> Okay.
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  >> It is fun. It makes fun of itself, but
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  not in a over-the-top way. Okay. All right. >> Like um
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  slight spoilers but not really >> for the [ __ ] He-Man movie.
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  >> Yeah. So, you know, like the characters were called like Fisto and >> Yeah.
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  >> Ram Jam and all this stuff. Ram. >> Well, in the movie that's just that
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  Adam's made up in his head that he's remembering from these people that he
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  grew up with. So when >> Oh, all right. When he goes back to >> Eternia,
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  >> back to the planet Estonia. >> Estonia. >> Etonia. >> Yeah. Estonia. >> Eternia.
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  >> Estonia. Eternia. He actually go, "Oh, there's Rayman." And he's, "What did you
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  just call me?" >> Oh. >> And it's actually sort of making fun of
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  like they were ridiculous names. >> So that that's not his name.
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  >> That's not his name. They were called >> they don't I don't remember them going
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  into that but it was just like what did you just call me?
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  >> He doesn't never say what's your real name and then he says it's Jeremy.
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  >> Like it's also like fisto like and he's what cuz you you fished people
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  >> my name's Michael. >> So yeah. No, that's it was actually I
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  think it was quite good how they actually did that joke like they
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  >> sort of made light of it but >> no it was a great movie. Jared Leto
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  >> didn't actually realize he was in the movie. >> Yeah, I seen a clip. It's the it's the
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  clip that's going around to show you Skeletor and it's uh it's got some of
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  that comedy in it. There's a bit where he's, you know, he's when his fist is
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  up, that means it's he's finished that that scene, whatever it is, that's going it's
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  >> Yeah. >> going around. >> Yeah. >> And you can see the
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  >> I think you can see the tone of it pretty well. And
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  >> I don't know. Yeah, exactly. I don't know why it's Jared Leto like
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  >> Yeah. Like I don't know why they cuz they would have paid more for him to do
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  the voice than >> uh I I don't want to sound bad like say
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  a normal voice actor, but another voice actor. >> Sure. But they would have paid more for
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  the name recognition. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But I don't think he added anything to
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  the movie [clears throat] >> and cuz it's heavily affected from what
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  I heard like the it's not like he's doing a just it's just him doing a
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  voice. It's him doing a voice and then they've also tweaked it.
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  >> Yeah. You don't actually hear Jared Leto. You hear Skeletor,
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  >> right? Hey man. But look, I I actually am really hoping
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  they make a sequel. >> They How's it doing? Uh, let's see. He
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  man box office. It is losing power. What does that mean?
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  >> Well, pointing. Okay. Well, >> oh, >> look.
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  >> Oh, not good. >> What?
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  It's pulled in. I'm rounding up here. This is Google AI. I'm rounding up here.
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  It's pulled in 30 million domestically and 55 million globally, but it cost
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  almost 200 million to make. That's very bad.
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  That's very, very bad. But it was a
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  good movie. >> 22 hours ago. It is a flop, man. >> Oh, that's kind of sad.
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  >> H >> cuz it was sort of fun. Like it was even a little bit of Well, not really. You
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  can't really spoil this, you know, like at the end of like a He-Man cartoon
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  where they all sort of do that big laugh. >> Yeah,
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  >> they did that at the end like the other characters in the background like doing
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  that type of laugh for a silly joke and it was just >> fun.
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  >> I mean, I'll watch it. Sounds fun. Uh
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  >> yeah. Okay. I guess I mean it's a hard
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  cell. I think I wasn't interested in this. If you hadn't literally if you're
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  not you're telling me right now >> I should go see this. It's fun and I'll
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  probably enjoy it. >> Yeah. >> If you hadn't, I wouldn't have bothered.
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  >> Yeah. Well, as I said, like when they first announced it, like it has grow. If
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  you go back and listen to the other episodes, I went, "This is stupid. This
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  looks stupid." Then >> hold on, it's starting to grow. And now I'm I'm all in. Like it's
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  >> Yeah. Well, you've seen it and you're all in. >> It's sort of the the audience. I think
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  it's a hard cell because it's not a the audience is us.
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  >> Yeah. Kids don't wouldn't know what this was, I don't think. >> No,
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  >> unless there was that series, right? The Kevin was the Netflix one, which I still
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  think was aimed at us. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's like the X-Men one.
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  It's like the sequel to the X-Men one we watched. Like, do kids watch that or do
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  do people like us watch that? >> Yeah. because like yeah the X-Men like
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  97 because like we grew up watching that and it just
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  >> at the time I didn't actually know it didn't end. I thought I just didn't see
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  it because >> well cuz we lived in a we grew up in Australia uh where you didn't get to
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  choose what you watched. You watched what was on television. I've
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  [clears throat] not seen all of the episodes of most of the things I watched as a kid.
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  >> No. And it wasn't until they actually came out and go, "Oh, we're going to
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  actually finish this that I found out that oh you didn't finish that series."
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  I thought it was just Yeah, we didn't get >> Oh, it had a had a plot, a through plot
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  and like Yeah. >> Yeah. Like things like Transformers and
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  all that. I mean, I know Transformers I don't think had a through plot, but they
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  would just literally just throw random episodes of [ __ ] on.
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  >> Yeah. And you might see the same episode within like 3 weeks of each other cuz
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  they did not care what they were putting on. >> Yeah. Very often the same episode was on
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  most of the time because I think they only paid for one episode or something.
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  >> Yes. cuz it was cheaper because we were just buying it from America and
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  >> free to air television in Australia in the 80s.
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  >> But yeah, look. Hey, man. Look, I I'm I'm a bit upset that it's not doing well
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  cuz it was >> Yeah, go see it. Should have seen it four times today, Luke.
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  >> I should have cuz it was a long movie as well. It's like two and a half hours,
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  but also didn't feel like two and a half hours. >> Yeah, right. two and a half hours.
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  >> Like you know when you go to a movie sometimes you go like >> oh yeah
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  >> you feel it. You go like >> oh yeah. Is this going to be over soon? Yeah.
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  >> Yeah. Do not feel it with He-Man. >> And then that brings me to today.
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  >> Okay. Wait there. Okay. There's a movie that's not in here then. >> Yes.
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  >> All right. I'll wait. >> Three movies today. >> I'll be patient.
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  >> So I started off I woke up at a sensible time for a change.
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  >> What time was that? May I ask? 9:30. >> Okay, that's pretty good.
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  >> Like it's pretty good cuz like for the last >> that's a sleep in for me, but that's
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  pretty good. >> Well, like for the last like I don't
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  know how many months I've been waking up like at 6:00 p.m. type of thing. >> Yeah. Right.
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  >> Actually, there was a weekend recently where I I I woke up at 9:30 and I was
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  like, "What year is this?" Because [laughter] it just never happens.
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  >> Well, [snorts] it's not that I'm sleeping in. Like I'll wake up and I'll
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  throw a YouTube video on and I'll go back to sleep and then I'll It's more
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  the I'm enjoying the dreams I'm having. So I'd like to prefer dreams.
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  >> You're a man of leisure. >> Yes. [gasps] But I saw disclosure day.
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  >> Okay. Okay. >> So as we all know I am not the biggest Spielberg fan.
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  >> No. in particular. Well, there's a movie that he made that people
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  have linked to for obvious reasons have have have likened to this one. >> Yes.
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  >> And you don't like that movie? Close Encounters.
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  >> I don't like that movie. And I did not see any bake uh any mashed potato in
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  this movie. So, I don't know where they're getting.
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  >> That's the only thing you remember about Close Encounters is that he builds a a a
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  mountain out of mashed potato. >> There was a lot of mashed potato. Was it just like
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  >> it's a big monument. It's a big volcanic. >> Who has that much mashed potato at a
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  table for three people? >> When you are trying to build the Devil's
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  Monument or Devil's Tower, what the [ __ ] is it called? I've got a >> Devil's Mountain.
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  >> Devil's Monument. Devil's Tower. Yeah, >> Devil's Tower. Yeah,
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  >> I've been there. I've got not supposed to admit this, but I've got a piece of
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  it somewhere on the shelf behind me. [laughter] >> Fell into my pocket. Have you
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  reconstructed that piece of mashed potato yet? [laughter] [gasps] >> Maybe. [snorts]
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  >> So, >> I'll eat the rest of it. [laughter]
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  >> But one thing I have found out is
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  spoiler. I'm going to give a big spoiler for the end of the movie.
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  >> Spielberg is a fan of Zelda, >> is he? >> Yep. That's what that whole movie was
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  leading up to. Spielberg coming out as a fan >> of Zelda. >> Of Zelda.
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  >> Zelda the princess or the legend of Zelda the video game.
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  >> One of the fairies in one of the games. That's all [snorts] I'm saying. >> Na'vi.
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  >> Yes. >> As in I think James Cameron is also a fan of Na'vi. >> Get it?
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  >> So that's all I'm saying. That is the >> Look, I
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  >> someone say, "Hey, listen." Is that what this [laughter] is about?
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  >> Yes. [laughter] >> All right. Okay. Listen. And that's what
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  I've just turned it into. Yeah. He's just a huge Zelda fan. That's what this
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  movie was about. >> Did you like the movie?
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  >> I think Spielberg, you don't like him. >> Is Spielberg not a I didn't mind the
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  movie. It's the ending I didn't like, which I can't get into because it's just come out.
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  >> Yeah. >> But it does feel like he's taking notes from Nolan. [laughter]
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  >> All right. All right. Well, well, I'll translate that for anybody who's not
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  familiar. Luke [ __ ] hates Christopher Nolan's movies because
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  >> at the end sometimes you have to decide for yourself what happened. Luke likes
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  to be told. Specific example is at the end of Inception, even though I've told
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  you now what Christopher Nolan said about it. Um, at the end of Inception,
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  >> it's unclear whether he's with his kids or not or whether it's a dream.
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  >> Yeah. However, Christopher Nolan did answer that, but
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  >> he shouldn't have to come out and say that after the movie.
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  >> He didn't come out and say it. >> Somebody uh somebody asked him.
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  >> And I also think >> I I question I don't question that
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  that's that anecdote, right? There's no reason this
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  >> there's no reason that they would lie about this. >> No,
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  >> but I do question whether like that's actually like that. I don't think there
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  is an answer, right? If it's not in the film, >> there's not an answer. It doesn't really
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  matter what Christopher Nolan says. It's like when >> he wants you to.
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  >> It's like when Ridley Scott comes out and says, you know, some decad was a
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  replicant in Bladeunner and then Harrison Ford comes out and says he
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  wasn't. It doesn't matter what they say. >> It's not in the movie, so it doesn't matter.
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  >> Yeah. So, and yeah, it's that. So, yeah, it's the ending is a Look, I didn't mind
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  it. It was was an okay movie. It's a movie I will see once. >> Sure.
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  >> I'm done. Never going to see it again. >> Emily B. Good in it. I've seen reviews
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  that say she's good in it. >> Oh, no. She was good in it. I I enjoyed her in it. >> Okay.
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  >> Yeah. >> You know what? I don't even know. >> Um,
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  was it Colin Ferrell? Was that >> Oh, yeah. Is he in it? >> Yeah. >> Colin Furth.
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  >> Furth. Sorry. I knew it was a Colin.
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  >> I don't know any of these people. >> Colin F and Elmery Blunt. That's all you
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  need to know. >> Yeah, I'm getting old. I don't recognize actor.
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  >> No, I don't think a lot of the act lot of people in I did not recognize except
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  for those two. >> Yeah. Right. Well, good on Spielberg for
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  branching out. It's not just Harrison Ford. And uh >> look, I will say
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  >> you like Indiana Jones, right? >> Yeah. What? Yes, but
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  >> I will say hang around for the credits. >> Mhm. >> Not for there's any after credits or
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  anything. It's just the score by John Williams is amazing. >> John Williams did this.
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  >> Yes. >> Oh, there you go. I mean, there's a reason to go see it, isn't it?
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  >> There you go. >> And so, yeah, like listening to the end,
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  just watching the credits, listen to music, that was that was good. like it
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  didn't and I cuz I knew there wasn't going to be an end credits cuz Spielberg
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  doesn't do that. Like even when he did Ready Player One, which is meant to be a
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  whole take on >> everything. There was no after credits,
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  which means that's where I went. Like he doesn't even understand people anymore. So,
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  >> well, let me ask you this. I know you're not a big fan of his, but people are
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  saying this is his best movie in a very long time. Would you agree with that?
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  >> I would agree with that. Yes. cuz there's not many. It's What was the last
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  movie he's done in a >> uh The Fableman
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  >> was it? No. >> Director director
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  previous. Yeah, the Fableman's. >> Yeah. No, I never saw that.
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  >> Um Marcus Mumford Cannibal. Oh, it's a music video. >> Ah, the [ __ ] that is.
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  >> Why is he directing music videos? >> Is he that hard up for cash?
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  >> Somebody asked him to maybe. Oh, West. He did Westside Story. Missed that.
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  All right. Uh and then um and then Ready Player One.
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  >> Oh, yeah. So, this is by far his best movie in a very long time.
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  >> I forgot the BFG did. Well, there's a bunch of stuff in there
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  that All right. Then you get back into Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
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  and then and then Munich. Munich is good. War of the War.
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  >> Yeah. Okay, look. I I'm still going like his
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  good to bad movie ratio is not the best. >> Nah, maybe let me look.
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  >> I even still go back to Jaws. I think Jaws he is lucky that is a good movie
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  because the shark didn't work. [laughter] >> I think if the shark worked that would
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  be a worse it would have allowed him to make decisions he wanted to make. Yeah.
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  >> Yeah. I was talking to someone about this the other day, that um episode of
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  Columbbo he directed. >> Mhm. >> It's a very good episode of Columbbo and
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  I would uh I'd recommend people check it out. Go see Disclosure Day and then go
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  watch an the episode of Columbbo. >> Well, also I do sort of call a bit of BS
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  when directors coming to do a special episode of shows because a lot of time
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  the shows just run themselves. Well, >> although back then maybe not,
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  >> you're right. Well, okay, he hadn't done anything before before this except TV
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  series, right? So, like if you look at his IMDb, Columbbo is is right before
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  Duel, the movie that made him famous. >> Yeah. >> Like same year. So, I think it was more
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  a case of he was >> just working as a director. He did a few
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  TV shows and stuff and then he became the guy who made Jaws like >> four years later
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  >> like with the like the CW shows like with Supergirl and stuff they've had
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  like guest directors like >> responsibility stuff coming in and it's
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  also but they're just coming in to just be there for the day. Everyone knows
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  what they're doing. Like they're just there. >> It's interesting, right? Because Yeah.
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  because like if you're Kevin Smith Kevin Smith has a style I would say like
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  whether you like it or not. And so to get him in to do a show that has a style
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  of its own seems weird because you've gota he's just got to make it like the show.
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  >> Like the show. Yeah. So while he maybe put a bit of a spin on some things, I
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  think they're just >> it's there for them to get a name
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  sometimes just to go, "Hey, we've got this guest director on." But
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  >> unless you're going to let them do >> it their way, like their style, but they
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  don't usually. >> No, because it's got to fit in. You
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  can't in the middle of a season go, "And now we're going to completely change the
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  story and do >> Yeah. Or just actors will start talking
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  like they're in a Kevin Smith movie kind of thing." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, but look,
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  >> I'm with you. >> Back to disclosure. Look. >> Yes.
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  >> It's It's okay. As I said, Spielberg's a fan of Zelda, especially
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  Na'vi. >> He also came out this week and said he thinks aliens are visiting Earth. So,
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  um, okay, he's lost that. >> A lot of people, there is a lot of
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  people on the internet who are thinking that this was uh they're getting
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  Spielberg to are about to come out and announce. >> Yeah.
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  >> Yeah. Well, the White House does did put
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  up recently a a a website about aliens.
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  I'm not joking. Can you guess what it's actually about?
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  >> I I have invading. They're invading. >> They're invading.
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  >> I have a feeling that they're like people that are south of the border mainly.
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  >> They're invading. They've been here all along. [laughter]
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  >> The thing I quite like about quite like [laughter] All right, we got
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  to get a little bit political is everyone is Trump's doing all this to
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  protect our borders. Whereas if you go back and Obama and Biden deported more
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  than he ever has. >> Yeah. But they didn't talk about it. >> Yes.
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  >> Because that it was a negative for them, I guess.
• 23:06
  >> Yes. But for Trump, it's a plus, but he's also doing less [laughter] than
• 23:11
  what they did. >> But everyone believes that he's doing more.
• 23:16
  >> Yeah. Yeah, but it isn't he actually at Didn't he just have a big birthday party
• 23:20
  at the White House or something with the UFC there or something? [laughter]
• 23:25
  >> Something like that. Honestly, I stopped looking. I cuz it's Yes, they built a
• 23:30
  big uh a big UFC arena on the lawn at the White House apparently. It was very
• 23:35
  very controversial >> because it's like the [ __ ] are you
• 23:38
  doing? Like you you've got everyone struggling with money and gas prices and
• 23:43
  all this and then you're just [laughter] building an arena to have a fight in
• 23:47
  front of the White House. >> Yes. And then he was there was some I
• 23:50
  think it's America's birthday celebration thing and uh a bunch of
• 23:56
  basically every band one band said I'm not going to do it. And then oh because
• 24:00
  they announced >> Oh yes. Yes. Okay. I think what happened
• 24:04
  is they announced all the acts without actually asking them
• 24:07
  >> and then and just said all these people are going to play and then some of them
• 24:10
  said no and then all the rest of them said well we have to say no now because
• 24:13
  everyone else said no. From what I heard, it was a little bit different
• 24:15
  that the axe had actually signed on thinking it's just going to be like a
• 24:18
  hey4 thing and then it became
• 24:22
  >> pro Trump thing and they've gone no we were just celebrating 250 years of
• 24:28
  America like we're not getting >> I think because it's and it's now it's
• 24:33
  become even bigger thing where it's like people I I think it was not even
• 24:37
  necessarily pro or anti Trump in a way. They're just like, "No, no, I just don't
• 24:41
  want to be involved in anything like that." Like, >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
• 24:46
  >> But anyway, back to my movie review. >> Back to movies. >> I saw another one called
• 24:50
  >> Back Rooms. >> Yes. I've heard that's very good. It's directed by a YouTuber.
• 24:55
  >> It's It's not. >> It's not. All right. >> It's It's not I don't understand the movie.
• 25:00
  >> I think it's the highest grossing horror movie of all time currently.
• 25:04
  >> Well, it'd be high grossing because I don't think it cost a lot. Yeah, that's
• 25:09
  Yeah, good point. >> Yeah, >> it's the same way like remember the first
• 25:14
  >> Ice Grossing A24 movie. >> Yeah. So, like remember like the first
• 25:18
  Paranormal Activity like that for the Blair Witch $20,000 to make or something
• 25:24
  like that was a >> Blair Witch was like made infinite money
• 25:28
  because it was like negative money. [laughter]
• 25:33
  But yeah, back room. I I think I'm I don't actually understand what the movie
• 25:38
  was about or how it ended or the middle or anything.
• 25:43
  >> Well, see, this is like a internet meme that they've made movie. So, maybe that
• 25:48
  maybe you're just not >> Yeah. >> into it like >> miss the internet meme I think because
• 25:53
  >> Yeah. Like because I mean I don't fully get it but the back rooms is like this
• 25:57
  concept of like the reality behind reality kind of thing. >> Yeah. So, it's sort of like
• 26:02
  >> these this guy finds he goes through a wall and he finds this room and it's
• 26:07
  sort of like >> a bit like real life but not and then he
• 26:11
  sort of like it's a memory of a memory type of thing. So, you see people that
• 26:16
  they're not quite what >> Yeah, I think >> it's like the scaffolding for for
• 26:22
  reality almost. >> Yeah, >> that's my understanding of it. Like I
• 26:26
  said, I've seen the movie and I I haven't followed it, but it's like, you
• 26:28
  know, when you say you're at like a movie theater and then you open a door
• 26:31
  and then all of a sudden you're in like a corridor and it's all the offices and
• 26:34
  [ __ ] and it looks just looks completely different to the movie theater and it's
• 26:39
  >> which is all dark and Yeah. And then you walk in and it's Yeah. >> But look, um,
• 26:44
  >> don't pay to go through the movie [laughter] just
• 26:49
  that A24. [ __ ] you. [laughter] [gasps] >> So that's all I've got to say for that
• 26:55
  one. I just didn't understand it. And the other movie >> scary.
• 26:59
  >> No, because I did not understand [laughter] it.
• 27:01
  >> I suppose hard to be scared if you don't know what's going on.
• 27:04
  >> Although that can be scary sometimes. >> Like I was expecting sort of like jump scares.
• 27:09
  >> Scare you because you like you're an old band now and you just don't understand things.
• 27:13
  >> Didn't understand. >> But look, the last movie I saw today was Obsession.
• 27:19
  obsession, >> which is basically a guy makes a wish that he wants this girl that he really
• 27:26
  really likes to love him more than anyone else in the world. Oh, >> okay.
• 27:30
  >> And actually, I quite like that. It was
• 27:36
  so I think it's been out for a while, so I'll give a few spoilers for this one.
• 27:40
  >> It says, [snorts] >> "Oh, so plenty of time then." I don't
• 27:45
  know why it's at my movies now then. But so he makes a wish and the girl starts
• 27:50
  off all nice and fine but then she becomes obsessed like you can't leave me
• 27:54
  like you can't go anywhere like >> like at one stage she like duct tapes
• 28:00
  doll out like >> oh if you're having trouble getting out
• 28:03
  you can just not go to work and stay here with me and then he goes no no it's
• 28:07
  fine I'll go and then she stands there and waits for him and pisses and shits
• 28:12
  herself just standing there waiting for him >> nice
• 28:15
  >> but then you also find out that it's not actually her.
• 28:21
  >> And I wish I had have gone bit more into that side of it, how she's sort of the
• 28:26
  person that has sort of been replaced. >> Interesting.
• 28:30
  >> So that person's been dragged away to somewhere else and she's
• 28:34
  >> and I wish I'd have focused a little bit more on that. I think that would have
• 28:37
  made a a better movie than what it was. I did enjoy it. >> Yeah. >> All right. [snorts]
• 28:42
  >> And it was nice. Like one time like they're asleep and he goes he gets up to
• 28:48
  leave and then you hear while she's asleep she's like please kill me. >> Right.
• 28:54
  >> And but it's like and she's sort of it's the real Nikki. >> Right. Right.
• 28:59
  >> Like the person that you've been with is asleep now. I'm you've not been with me.
• 29:06
  Please kill me. I don't want to >> Yeah. Right. >> Doing this. And no it's actually Yeah.
• 29:11
  No, I actually quite enjoy it and I highly recommend that as a movie to go see.
• 29:16
  >> Not maybe not movie worthy, but definitely you should see it. You should watch it.
• 29:21
  >> Okay. It came out in May apparently. I don't know why it says 2025. Oh, is
• 29:26
  there two of them >> anyway? What? >> Maybe. No, no. There's there's a recent
• 29:32
  one. And I I I think to me there's an alternate ending. >> Oh, yeah.
• 29:38
  >> So, in your head or in my head. Should I
• 29:42
  go for a spoiler for this ending or not? >> Oh, I don't know.
• 29:47
  >> Go skip ahead five minutes if you don't want to hear the >> spoilers for this.
• 29:52
  >> All right. >> Yeah. Next thing. >> So, at the end of the thing, like at one
• 29:56
  part they say like like if you want the wish to end, you basically need to kill
• 30:01
  yourself cuz she's going to keep doing this, >> right?
• 30:05
  >> And this is where they go like do you want to talk to her? And you hear the
• 30:07
  actual Nikki like screaming in the background. >> Right. Right.
• 30:11
  >> And that's the real person. But at the end of the movie, you hear he does
• 30:17
  attempt to sort of take his life, but then sort of throws up the tablets and
• 30:21
  stuff and but you hear her make a wish, >> right?
• 30:25
  >> And you start to see that he's starting to come out and go, "Yep, we're going to
• 30:29
  be together forever." But then he dies and then she breaks
• 30:34
  free of the curse and she's screaming like, "What the hell is going on?" I
• 30:38
  think it would have been I would have liked to have seen them both go, "Yep,
• 30:41
  we're now in love, going to be together forever." I would have liked to have
• 30:44
  seen where those two characters actually ended up in their sort of hellscape, not in
• 30:51
  >> because they've essentially been replaced. >> Yeah. Right. Okay. So,
• 30:58
  like if the they both did the wish and then it was like these two
• 31:04
  cursed things, whatever they are. Yeah. >> Demons, whatever they are,
• 31:07
  >> zombie versions of them. >> Zombie versions. >> And but then I'd like to also see what
• 31:12
  happened to the actual versions of themselves, [laughter]
• 31:14
  >> like what's actually happening to them in the background
• 31:17
  >> because I know that she was basically saying like this is not her. This is like
• 31:23
  >> I want to see what was happening on that side of >> the Wish demon type thing.
• 31:29
  >> That's just me. >> So that's that's it for my movies reviews this week.
• 31:34
  >> Wow. You have seen a lot of movies. >> I have. And I'm not going to go see
• 31:39
  another movie for two weeks. >> Yeah. Right. Okay. Two weeks. Why was
• 31:44
  that coming out in two weeks? >> Supergirl. >> Supergirl. Right. Right. All right.
• 31:51
  >> Although I did see a trailer and I'm saying I just got to say this. I like
• 31:57
  your McGregor and shorts. >> Wait, what? [laughter]
• 32:02
  >> There's a trailer that I've seen a few times now. It's called The End of Oak Street.
• 32:07
  >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I've seen that. He's even noticed that you and
• 32:10
  McGregor's in shorts in that. >> Yeah. You McGregor is wearing shorts.
• 32:13
  That's what I'm saying. I like it. >> Okay. Ean McGregor in shorts.
• 32:20
  >> I think Eil McGregor would have been a very attractive man in the 70s.
• 32:24
  >> I Googled it and uh there are pictures
• 32:28
  of of him and Anne Hathaway and uh people have also Yeah. noted that he's
• 32:34
  wearing shorts. So there you go. >> Yeah. >> All right.
• 32:40
  >> I don't know when that's coming out, but I'll go see that as well. But yeah,
• 32:43
  that's my movie reviews, which I don't normally do movie reviews apart from
• 32:48
  >> I liked it. I think I did well with these ones. >> Yeah, I
• 32:52
  >> actually had things to say. >> No, I was I'm uh I'm I'm excited to see
• 32:56
  uh He-Man uh and and Disclosure Day. >> Yeah, >> based on your uh your discussion, even
• 33:01
  though I know you're not a Spielberg fan and I >> I'm not. But
• 33:04
  >> I'll hold off on back rooms. >> Yeah, back rooms. I I think it's because
• 33:09
  I don't understand the internet thing of it because it's >> Yeah, >> it's the same as um
• 33:15
  >> it's a very Christopher Nolan concept, >> but it's the same as um other YouTube
• 33:20
  movie that came out a while ago by Markiplier, Iron Lung. >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:25
  >> I went and saw that and I did not really understand it at all.
• 33:31
  >> So, game Yeah. A game where you're in like a submarine and the ocean is blood
• 33:36
  or something. Yeah. And you're taking um >> not photos, you're taking x-rays of
• 33:42
  things. And yeah, >> I think if you knew the game, it might
• 33:46
  have been good, but without knowing >> that part of it, it's Yeah.
• 33:53
  >> All right. Well, uh there a little bit
• 33:56
  of Stephen Spielberg, James Bond news. >> Oh, really?
• 34:01
  >> Yeah. In the past, people have uh said, you know, Spielberg should do a Bond
• 34:05
  movie because people like Indiana Jones, I guess. >> Um,
• 34:09
  and I mean, the news is simply that Spielberg came out this week and said
• 34:13
  that he pitched them >> uh quite a few times >> and they always turned him down. Uh, but
• 34:20
  he said, "If they ask me now, his answer will be, you can't afford me." >> And
• 34:26
  >> I don't know. I reckon they could because he's had one like as we were
• 34:29
  just talking he's had like one good movie in how many years?
• 34:32
  >> Yeah, I I'm not sure they'd ask him now. But um so he's kind of safe to make that
• 34:38
  statement and I don't think I mean they've got Denny Vill. They don't need >> No.
• 34:42
  >> Yeah, they don't need to. >> Yeah, I think he's just I think he
• 34:45
  probably gave up on it long ago and he's just Yeah. Like whatever.
• 34:48
  >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean it might be true. Maybe they did. Maybe he did pitch him, but
• 34:52
  >> I could probably see him pitching especially like back then when like
• 34:57
  >> I am going to say Bond >> when when Spielberg was at his greatest
• 35:02
  >> Bond was bigger than he was now is now. >> Yeah, I guess he I guess when maybe he
• 35:09
  pitched like the Dalton era. >> Yeah. >> Or um or Pierce Brosman.
• 35:15
  >> Yeah, he'd definitely be around there is when he would have been pitching, I'd say. And
• 35:21
  >> the Dalton films are good. >> Good. >> What's that?
• 35:26
  >> I like them. All I like Golden Eye. >> Yeah, Golden Eye is good. The rest of
• 35:31
  them I don't know, man. I had some rosecolored glasses on when I watched.
• 35:36
  Although I'll say I mean maybe I've already done this. I was surprised. My
• 35:40
  favorite of them is Golden Eye. Second favorite is The World Is Not Enough,
• 35:43
  which is the one I always joke about because or used to joke about I think
• 35:48
  because Denise Richards is in it. >> Yeah. >> It became kind of a joke, but she's
• 35:53
  actually not bad in it. Like it's only because it's Denise Richards and
• 35:58
  >> Denise Richards especially at the time when >> Yeah. And it's like she plays a nuclear
• 36:04
  physicist and it's like she was just >> You're hot.
• 36:08
  >> Yes. like she was known for being hot and then she was like, "Yeah, she's a
• 36:12
  scientist and there's a Yeah, that >> Yeah, that's really the only reason that
• 36:17
  it was funny." >> Yeah, >> but like watching it, she's actually not
• 36:21
  bad in it.
• 36:24
  >> They call Sping um
• 36:30
  >> so they called him a few years later after release of Close Encounter to Kim
• 36:34
  cuz he wanted to use the M movie's famous five note musical note. See? Maker.
• 36:40
  >> Moonrakaker. >> And he went moon raker. I got it right that time, didn't I?
• 36:45
  >> He said, "I'll make you a deal. I give you permission to use notes if you let
• 36:48
  me direct a Bond film." >> And they went, "No." >> Yeah. [laughter]
• 36:54
  I uh I had never put that together until I watched Moonrakaker on this rewatch. I
• 37:00
  think we talked about it when I watched it. >> The the the code that opens the door
• 37:06
  >> to the um the lab. >> Yeah. Is that
• 37:10
  from Is that in disclosure day? >> No. Well, not that I heard. It may have
• 37:16
  been a background thing that I missed like
• 37:21
  >> some sticky, but I don't actually I and I also may have missed where it did tie
• 37:26
  into Close Encounters cuz I >> because you hate that movie and you've not rewatched it.
• 37:30
  >> I've seen that movie a few times. I just despise it. >> Okay. All right.
• 37:36
  All right. And then uh we've got some um news that's interesting to me, which is
• 37:41
  that uh George Miller has plans to do
• 37:45
  one more Mad Max movie and the TV series. >> Okay.
• 37:50
  >> And apparently that's it. He's going to hand it off after that. So
• 37:55
  >> I want him to make another game, honestly. >> Well, so you know, the game was
• 38:00
  originally supposed to be a TV series, but he couldn't get the TV series.
• 38:04
  >> Actually, the game was really good. I really enjoyed it. And I
• 38:08
  >> the interesting thing about the game to me is looking back at it now, it's got a
• 38:13
  lot of stuff that is in Fury Road and Furiosa just done differently. >> Yeah.
• 38:20
  >> Like uh and he's not he wasn't happy with the game. I saw an interview where
• 38:23
  he said that he wasn't happy with it, but they took all his notes and
• 38:26
  everything and the game is based on >> his ideas for everything. So when you
• 38:31
  look at the game and then you look at the movies now, it's like, oh yeah,
• 38:34
  okay, they went in a different direction, but it's the same kind of thing.
• 38:37
  >> I wonder if it's he's not happy with the game because he didn't get to make
• 38:41
  his show at the time. >> Maybe >> cuz I don't see him being a big gamer
• 38:48
  for some reason. >> No, I I wouldn't have thought so. The
• 38:52
  thing that worries me about the film thing, I talked about this when I saw
• 38:56
  Furiosa. I liked Furiosa, but I also think I specifically saw an article
• 39:01
  where somebody had convinced him to do more CGI tweaking of things and I was
• 39:06
  like, "Oh, okay. Yeah, he shouldn't have done that."
• 39:09
  >> So, I hope I hope I'm hoping he didn't learn that he should do more of it. I'm
• 39:14
  hoping he also wasn't that happy with it and he'll go back and they did Fury Road
• 39:18
  >> where it's just like all pract like you do need to have like some
• 39:23
  >> well the thing that annoy me the most is that that
• 39:26
  >> they said they filmed it all practically but then they convinced him to like
• 39:30
  enhance it and like move things around in the frame and stuff like that. And to me I think
• 39:36
  >> I my brain can tell when you've done that >> and I would prefer you just don't do it.
• 39:42
  I will go back to a few of the things with disclosure day that I didn't
• 39:45
  mention is this the special effects on it. Um, there's one time you see a fox.
• 39:52
  >> Yeah. >> And it I don't know if it was just me, but
• 39:57
  >> it looked horrible. Like you could tell like CGI completely. like and it felt
• 40:04
  very out of place which felt strange cuz it wasn't like a
• 40:10
  >> I think they could have spent more time on it to made it feel more ingrained
• 40:14
  into the movie into the scene but it just felt like it was just thrown in last minute
• 40:19
  >> instead of I don't know we seem to have gone backwards on CGI for stuff
• 40:25
  >> I feel like that too actually and then I watch something like the Sonic movies
• 40:28
  which I have a friend who [ __ ] laughs every time I mention the Sonic movies
• 40:31
  cuz I feel like Maybe I'm a little obsessed with them, but I I'm like, man,
• 40:35
  the special effects in Sonic are [ __ ] great. Like, >> well, I'm going back. I think the
• 40:39
  special effects in Jurassic Park Oh, yeah. >> were better than this fox in Disclosure
• 40:45
  Day. >> Yeah, right. >> Which >> interesting >> is insane when you go back to to
• 40:51
  Jurassic Park being late like ' 90s. >> Maybe the fox was like a late edition.
• 40:56
  He's not a main character, I assume. I don't It was No, no. I I don't think
• 41:02
  it was a late late thing. I think it was >> relevant to the plot.
• 41:06
  >> It was re It was relevant to the plot. It just looked terrible for some reason.
• 41:10
  And I don't know why they didn't >> I don't know throw enough of $10,000 at it.
• 41:15
  >> Yeah. Right. Yeah. Cuz my understanding of the Bad Max thing is that they still
• 41:20
  shot like all the action sequences, but then >> they moved it around.
• 41:24
  >> Move things and like enhance things and Yeah. I don't know. I feel like you
• 41:28
  don't need like if I look at Fury Road which also had some CGI stuff in it and
• 41:34
  I wish it didn't because like like the bit at the end where the truck crashes
• 41:37
  and the like the guitar flies forward towards the camera that looks like the
• 41:40
  guitar looks fake as [ __ ] but they actually crash the truck. You can watch
• 41:44
  the video of it and it's like get that CGI [ __ ] out of the way. Like let me
• 41:48
  look at the truck. >> Look, I could see them maybe making like
• 41:52
  explosions a little bit like fire and stuff a little bit bigger. I can
• 41:56
  understand that, but that's but smash stuff into other stuff.
• 42:01
  >> They inferior they blew up a tanker truck and just filmed it. Just do that.
• 42:05
  >> That's what I want. I just want you to do it because I feel like my brain can tell.
• 42:09
  >> But then but they did do it for Fudarosa, but then >> Yeah. >> And then move it around.
• 42:15
  >> That's why I was like, "This feels close, but like it's not this." Yeah.
• 42:19
  This it doesn't like I said, there's like an uncanny valley thing >> with when it's been
• 42:24
  >> tweaked like that. And then yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know. I think it it I just
• 42:29
  feel that special effects have just gotten lazier with CGI.
• 42:35
  >> I read an article that I don't know if it's lazier. I think it's like um
• 42:40
  there's just so many [ __ ] movies now that studios when they get hired to do
• 42:44
  the special effects, they don't have time to to like focus on it. Whereas in
• 42:48
  some cases they do when it's something I think like Transformers when it's like
• 42:53
  >> uh a showpiece for the studio then you get the result is like
• 42:59
  >> the best you can get because they spend all the time on it. Whereas if you're
• 43:02
  hired to do like remember the Ant-Man movie that came out and everyone was
• 43:04
  like why does it look so [ __ ] Apparently, it's because the studio that
• 43:08
  did the effects was just overwhelmed with >> Well, I think if you still see a lot of
• 43:13
  it goes through ILM still like, >> right, but it's not like
• 43:18
  what I mean is like ILM is doing the Transformers movie versus ILM has been
• 43:23
  hired to do this >> to do this part. >> You know what I mean? Yeah. I I maybe
• 43:27
  that's got something to do with I'm guessing. >> Yeah,
• 43:30
  >> I'm guessing based on some articles, [clears throat]
• 43:32
  >> but yeah, just Yeah, I don't know. CJ just seems to have got good and then got
• 43:38
  bad. >> Yeah. Yeah. I apparently from what I read it's because they don't have time
• 43:43
  to do it the to the the level that you would >> I could sort of understand cuz like they
• 43:50
  throw CGI into everything now even if it doesn't need it.
• 43:54
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll fix it in post. >> Yep.
• 44:00
  >> Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. So George Miller's Mad Max movie. Cool. MX TV series. Also
• 44:05
  cool. And then he's gonna step aside. >> And he's gonna give it to
• 44:11
  >> Yeah. And might be geek of a week. [snorts] >> He's 81.
• 44:15
  >> Yeah. I'm just saying he's getting up there. So I can actually understand why
• 44:18
  he's going like, I'm going to do this and this and then I'm out. >> Oh yeah. >> Like
• 44:23
  >> enjoy your retirement. I got when [ __ ] Fury Road came out and he had
• 44:29
  done like Happy Feet and a bunch of like [ __ ] It was like what is this going to
• 44:34
  be? And then I got to say Fury Road is still just like gold standard for
• 44:40
  [ __ ] action movies for me. >> Like incredible. like it's got CGI and
• 44:46
  stuff in it, but but >> yeah, >> like the you can tell when they actually crashed
• 44:51
  the cars, stuff like that. And you can go and you can watch the videos of the
• 44:54
  behind the scenes when they when they filmed it. And if you're wondering,
• 44:57
  >> like, yeah, they just crashed cars. Like that's why it looks so real because it
• 45:01
  literally is. >> But no, look, I'm happy that he sort of
• 45:05
  like I'm doing this and then I'm out. Like it's >> Yeah, it's fair.
• 45:10
  >> Enjoy your retirement. And I think I wish more people would actually get to
• 45:14
  enjoy their retirement instead of willing about in wheelchairs for the
• 45:18
  rest of their lives. >> Yeah. In this case, yeah, sometimes I
• 45:22
  wonder, do they need to or is it just like a a drive that they have?
• 45:27
  >> Like Stan Lee, I think, got [ __ ] over. But did he need to be working that late
• 45:33
  in his his life? Well, it's sort of hard to know because cuz you got to remember
• 45:38
  like remember like Marvel was nearly bankrupt before the movie started.
• 45:42
  >> Yeah. And that probably >> I think he was loving it for a while.
• 45:46
  >> But was he rich out of that? >> Yeah. I don't know.
• 45:51
  >> Yeah, fair enough. Good question.
• 45:54
  >> I know people got rich off of him.
• 45:59
  >> Uh I have a brief uh anecdote about my phone. You got a T1?
• 46:05
  >> No, I [laughter] No, I should have. I uh basically short
• 46:12
  version, if you have Apple Care, right, you can get Apple Care
• 46:17
  >> One now, which is a plan where you can keep stuff on Apple Care that should
• 46:20
  technically have expired. My phone is four years old now, but I'm able to keep
• 46:23
  the Apple Care thing on it because of this thing, >> this this Apple Care 1. And uh the
• 46:29
  reason I did that is because when your maximum battery charge capacity drops
• 46:33
  under 80% of the original like you know like you can only charge up to 80% of
• 46:38
  what the battery once was. >> Y >> they'll replace it for free and >> with a new one or
• 46:44
  >> new battery. New battery. >> Oh battery. Okay. Okay. That's
• 46:47
  >> and I was like okay cuz I I don't care about the new phones. Um,
• 46:51
  >> no that those days are gone for us where we used to
• 46:56
  >> I mean we can talk a little bit about the new Apple stuff after this if you
• 46:59
  want. There is some I I won't be able to use a lot of the new stuff, but anyway,
• 47:03
  we get to that. Uh, so I took a phone in to get a new battery put in. It's an
• 47:08
  iPhone 14 Pro Max and it's filming me right now. >> Mhm.
• 47:12
  >> And uh, I took it in to get the battery replaced. They put it on a little thing.
• 47:15
  and they did some diagnostics and he said, "Oh, actually it's failed
• 47:19
  uh some other stuff. There's one of the sensors for the the cell service isn't
• 47:24
  working. Is your cell service bad?" And I was like, "I don't think so." But he
• 47:27
  said, "Well, anyway, it's failed. So, we have to also replace the the mid section
• 47:33
  of the phone, which it means we also replace the back." And I was like,
• 47:36
  "Okay, so that's just like most of the phone." He said, "Yeah, really? They'll
• 47:40
  just just take the screen off >> and [laughter] use everything else."
• 47:45
  >> Says he put my screen on another phone. And I was like, "Oh, all right. >> Cool."
• 47:49
  >> Um, it's that's sort of weird because like do you actually use it as a phone?
• 47:55
  >> Not so much. No. >> So, that's probably why you haven't
• 47:57
  noticed that you've had like you might have been having cell phone.
• 48:00
  >> Yeah. I mean, is that how the I guess it gets internet to it as well. Is that how
• 48:04
  you internet to it? I don't know. I haven't noticed any issues, but
• 48:06
  whatever. it failed some diagnostic. So, uh, so I took it in. So, they had to
• 48:13
  order the the parts for that and then I took it in, uh, and I gave it to them
• 48:18
  and 3 hours later I had no phone for 3 hours, which was very strange. I had no
• 48:21
  music in the car. Um, >> three [laughter] hours. That's a sad
• 48:27
  state of affairs when you notice a phone gone for 3 hours.
• 48:30
  >> Yeah. I handed my I I had to wipe it first because they were going to erase
• 48:34
  it anyway. I was like, I'll I'll just do it myself. I'll take it back up and I'll
• 48:37
  wipe it. So, I wiped it. I went to went in, handed it to them. I went to go and
• 48:41
  do some stuff and it was just so many occasions where I'm like waiting in
• 48:45
  line. I'm like, "Oh, I'll just check. No, I won't. I will not. Oh, oh, maybe
• 48:49
  I'll look up." Nope, I will not. Oh, I should make a note to Nope, not doing that. Like,
• 48:54
  >> I'd actually have to be very careful cuz I don't carry a wallet with me at all anymore,
• 48:59
  >> right? >> All I have is my phone. So, if that was to happen,
• 49:03
  >> I'd be broke. I couldn't pay for anything or do anything. I'd be
• 49:09
  >> because even though because I'm in ACT again and I'm meant to carry my driver's
• 49:14
  license with me in New South Wales, it was an app on the phone. >> Yeah.
• 49:18
  >> But because [snorts] I got so used to not having my wallet, I just I live it
• 49:24
  on the edge without a driver's license. [laughter]
• 49:27
  >> You've got one not carrying it. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But anyway, so they were going to
• 49:31
  replace everything except the screen. But then when I went to pick it up, he
• 49:33
  said, "Oh, sorry." When he was doing the replacement, he damaged the screen, so
• 49:37
  we had to replace that, too. So, I have literally >> Did they replace it or just here's a
• 49:43
  brand new phone? >> It's from what I understand, I mean, it
• 49:47
  is a brand new phone because I the serial number is different. And when I
• 49:51
  got it back, it didn't work because it's not linked to my T-Mobile account. And
• 49:57
  so I had to call T-Mo from Jenna's phone and get on the chat or whatever and just
• 50:01
  con and convince them that it wasn't a scam because it's like I'm like, "Yeah,
• 50:05
  I need you to transfer my service to this." And then they're like, "What
• 50:08
  happened to the old one?" And I'm like, "It's got the phone got replaced."
• 50:12
  >> SIM card or anything. >> That's eim. >> Ah. >> And and the eSIM was not on this one. It
• 50:17
  was on >> it's on whatever >> Yeah. >> thing they put in the trash or whatever
• 50:22
  they did with it. Um anyway, so that's my anecdote. I've got a brand new iPhone
• 50:28
  14 Pro Max and the battery charge is it goes up to 100% now. The optimization is 100%.
• 50:34
  >> Which is maybe why they're doing more cuz I know my phone is very much a hey
• 50:39
  you put it on charge and we're going to do this special charging thing that it
• 50:42
  won't charge for the entire period. >> Ruins the battery. Yeah. >> Yeah.
• 50:47
  >> Yeah.
• 50:50
  But uh WWDC was this week. Uh it was not a particularly interesting one. I didn't
• 50:56
  even watch it because I knew it wasn't going to be the main thing. WWDC is when
• 51:01
  Apple announces all the new [ __ ] >> Um,
• 51:04
  >> new Siri is the the biggest thing. New AI.
• 51:09
  >> They finally released it cuz weren't they worried to not Oh, [laughter]
• 51:15
  >> and but they were careful this time. They got in a lot of trouble. literally
• 51:18
  got sued last time because >> they did this big video thing in in at
• 51:25
  WWDC where they said this is going to be the new Siri and they showed all these
• 51:28
  features of it >> that they obviously faked >> but that these are going to be the
• 51:34
  features. >> Yeah. >> Uh and then they couldn't do it so they
• 51:39
  never shipped it. I think it's a big thing. We have to actually thank Europe
• 51:43
  for this because Europe came up with a lot of laws to go like you can't do this
• 51:48
  and you can't just lead people on and >> this is not coming out in Europe because
• 51:54
  of all the the laws and stuff. So they like can't release it there at least not
• 51:59
  yet because >> until they can give what they promised.
• 52:03
  >> Well, I think until because this AI stuff is
• 52:08
  dodgy. [laughter] They're not dodgy in a in like, you know, like you know, I'm
• 52:13
  sure people have used them by now. You know, you kind of have to like
• 52:16
  >> hope that it does what you want. >> It's not like a guarantee that you're
• 52:20
  going to get the result that you asked for. >> Yeah. One of the funny thing I I was
• 52:25
  thinking about AI just recently this last week and the fact that we don't
• 52:29
  actually we've given up on like worrying about climate change and the environment
• 52:35
  now because >> well >> AI is there and we're just
• 52:41
  >> I don't know if it's given up given up but it just seems to AI just seems to
• 52:46
  have come along over the top of it and it just doesn't seem >> a bigger thing people.
• 52:53
  >> Maybe we solved it. >> It's probably what it is. >> I don't think we have because AI is
• 52:58
  costing a lot of energy. Like I've read articles where
• 53:02
  >> they've basically gone to some towns and gone, look, we're going to be devoting
• 53:06
  all your energy to these new data centers, so you're going to have to work something out.
• 53:10
  >> Yeah. There was I saw one the other day where something about there was like the
• 53:13
  taxes went up to pay for a new power plant to help with their struggling
• 53:18
  energy supply and then they said no it's all going to this data center like all
• 53:22
  of it like you don't get any of it and it's like yeah that's fine.
• 53:25
  >> Yeah. You're going to pay for it all but you you get none of the benefit or you do
• 53:28
  >> you can use [laughter] exactly.
• 53:33
  Yeah. Yeah. So the new uh the new Siri runs on um Gemini. It's the Google AI,
• 53:40
  not chat GPT, which is what they announced last time. Because I think I
• 53:44
  think we talked about this. One of the problems with this stuff is that you
• 53:48
  have to kind of ask an AI to do something and hope that it does. Like
• 53:53
  it's not uh it's not predictable in a way that you would ideally want. Like
• 53:58
  you could say, "Can you um" Well, my example that I actually did was like,
• 54:04
  "Can you recommend me some Formula 1 drivers to pick for my F1 fantasy team this year?"
• 54:10
  >> And it tells you drivers that don't exist or drivers that aren't on the
• 54:15
  teams that it says they are. And it's just it just the results you get are
• 54:19
  often questionable. And what like a famous example is if you ask chat GBT
• 54:23
  what is the population of a country, >> it will give you an answer. Yep.
• 54:29
  >> You then have to check if that's the correct answer because it just might
• 54:32
  have looked at the Wikipedia page and it told you the first number that it saw.
• 54:36
  >> Saw. And even if you call it out, sometimes you have to call it out like
• 54:40
  two or three times for it to go, oh no, you are actually right. When you said I was wrong.
• 54:45
  >> Yeah. I had to cla the other day. I said I I don't even remember the context, but
• 54:50
  it was like we're talking I was asking it to help with something and it
• 54:54
  suggested something and I was like no, no, I'm not going to do that. And then
• 54:57
  later on it said, "Well, maybe we could go back to that thing you suggested
• 54:59
  earlier." And I was like, "You suggested that?" And I said, "No." Like, [laughter]
• 55:03
  >> see, I am working on AI for some stuff, but the AI I'm working on is like very
• 55:08
  specific. It's like here is your data source that you're going to be reading from.
• 55:12
  >> Yeah. You've got to be really specific. >> So, if someone asks a question, you read
• 55:17
  from these articles. That's it. Like, you don't go off and make something up.
• 55:22
  Here, here here is your data set. That's it. And what my playing around with that
• 55:28
  seems to work quite well, but that's because it's >> very specific. >> Yeah.
• 55:32
  >> Like it's not go to the internet and >> right
• 55:37
  >> let me know what you think. And because when when the but they never launched
• 55:42
  the old Siri the the the first attempt at this but people were looking in you
• 55:47
  could see I think in the code the prompts >> that it was asking chat GBT and it's
• 55:52
  like this thing that you have to do where it's like okay
• 55:54
  >> please respond in uh you know in JSON format. >> Yeah.
• 55:59
  >> Also don't try to be funny. Don't do this. Don't do that. Please don't say
• 56:03
  anything racist. Like >> yeah, they had far too many rules for it to actually be useful.
• 56:08
  >> Like it's it like you just have to like say pretty pretty pretty pretty please
• 56:12
  don't do anything offensive. I am amazed that they're using Gemini now because
• 56:17
  >> I think Google made the promises that they required regarding probably you
• 56:23
  know performance and >> it just seems reliability for like Apple for hey
• 56:29
  >> we're going to use a Google product so you might as well just buy an Android.
• 56:34
  The other thing there's been a lot of talk about chat GP in particular open
• 56:38
  AAI have [ __ ] a lot of people over um like Sam Alman was I talked about the
• 56:44
  article about how he's he lies a lot and I in particular like they screwed over
• 56:49
  Microsoft and a lot of these big companies. So I think maybe Apple's like
• 56:52
  you know what let's go with like yes Google's a competitor but they're a
• 56:58
  business they're a professional business and they don't do that kind of [ __ ]
• 57:03
  Like if you have a contract with them, they'll honor the contract. They're not
• 57:06
  going to like weasle around it like no >> OpenAI keeps doing. So I think that
• 57:10
  might be why. >> Yeah, because also you got to look like
• 57:14
  if they're using Gemini, well that's what Google's using as well. So you
• 57:19
  can't really it's going to be sort of the same results you're getting across
• 57:23
  both. It's not going to be a >> like I go back to this might not be a
• 57:29
  onetoone comparison but remember when Google Maps and Apple Maps came out and
• 57:33
  Apple Maps was just completely useless. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yes.
• 57:37
  >> Now if they were using Google Maps at the same time well that's one to one
• 57:41
  like it's not >> Yeah. >> going to give you better now but yeah.
• 57:46
  >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm >> not better than Google Maps. I think Gomez is still better, but like
• 57:51
  >> I'm still I'm still also going back a long time ago that >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:55
  >> Yeah. Yeah. And uh so the new series is a is powered by
• 58:01
  Gemini and uh it will it it's I mean you have to watch go read what it does. It's
• 58:08
  so many things like you can like take a photo and ask it what what's this and
• 58:12
  you can have it read you it does lots of stuff. I have been actually meaning to
• 58:17
  go and use um Gemini cuz I still need to go and upload my photos for my trip last
• 58:21
  year and I wanted to Oh yeah. >> Some of the things I wanted to do is
• 58:24
  like for some of the photos I went to some like beautiful places like Anchor
• 58:28
  Watt and things like that. >> Mhm. >> And I like to go hey can you just remove
• 58:33
  the people from this photo [sighs and gasps] >> and stuff like that. So, let's talk
• 58:37
  about that because some of the things that this can do are photoreated
• 58:42
  >> and I don't know what I don't know where I draw the line on this because what
• 58:47
  you're describing I think is interesting and fine
• 58:51
  >> to a degree because let's say you have two photos of anchor watt. >> Yes.
• 58:58
  >> One with a they both have people in them but the people are in different
• 59:01
  positions. In theory, you should be able to stitch those together into one
• 59:06
  without the people because you can see the stuff that's behind the people in
• 59:10
  the other photo, right? >> Yeah, that makes sense.
• 59:12
  >> And and and when I'm taking photos, I'm like like taking a lot of photos at the
• 59:16
  same time, but when you go to somewhere like anchor, >> you're not going to be there by
• 59:21
  yourself. >> No, no, no. Like I've got I've got when
• 59:24
  we're in Mexico, right? I have photos of Chichinita that it's just Jenna and I
• 59:28
  and that's because we got there like [ __ ] early and it was we got really
• 59:32
  lucky. But all the other places like um and that >> there's people [ __ ] everywhere. So
• 59:38
  yeah, it's just it's hard. But where I
• 59:42
  don't like it is when you have one photo
• 59:46
  and you say remove the people and it just makes up >> makes stuff up.
• 59:52
  >> That weirds me out. And then the other one is even worse than that where you say
• 59:57
  >> like or or like we talked about the one the Samsung one where you take a photo
• 1:00:00
  of the moon and it just >> just generates a moon. Like that's
• 1:00:04
  [ __ ] stupid. Like I [laughter] don't understand. >> I don't understand why anyone
• 1:00:08
  [clears throat] wants that. Like Yeah, exactly. It's not a photo. It's like
• 1:00:11
  >> like Yeah, that that makes no sense to me. Like
• 1:00:14
  >> and then Apple have this thing now where you can reframe a photo like like turn
• 1:00:20
  the camera and stuff like that because and AI generates it and I'm like that's
• 1:00:24
  not a photo. >> No, it's not a photo. That's like Yeah.
• 1:00:27
  Like what I'm doing is I just want to
• 1:00:31
  >> make adjustments because I'm I can't use like Photoshop and stuff like that. I'm
• 1:00:36
  useless. I'm never going to be able to learn that. It's just those those little
• 1:00:39
  things like I've got a great shot, but I've got this one person that's caught
• 1:00:43
  in frame. Can you just get them out of that frame for me? >> Yes. >> And so I've got this
• 1:00:49
  >> Yeah. >> Great shot. >> And ideally, I I think you would do that
• 1:00:52
  by providing it another photo. >> Another photo >> that has the stuff behind the person
• 1:00:57
  that they can put they can so they can do it >> based on reality, not make it up.
• 1:01:02
  >> Yeah. It's not like I've gone like past yep out of the car, here's a photo, and
• 1:01:06
  moved on and gone, "Yep, now I'll make it pretty." You know, I I want what I've
• 1:01:09
  taken just just >> because I feel like >> if if you're going to to if depending on
• 1:01:16
  the degree of it, it's almost like you could just say just make me a photo of
• 1:01:20
  me at Anchor and then just make have it make one and then out of nothing out of
• 1:01:24
  [ __ ] nothing. And it's like you could >> difference at a certain point.
• 1:01:28
  >> Exactly. And that's not what I want. I want to
• 1:01:33
  >> cuz I was there and it was amazing but because it is such an amazing place like
• 1:01:39
  and it's like we're rated one of the top like five places to get the sunrise in the world.
• 1:01:44
  >> Yeah. >> So no matter what time you get there, there are people there and we were there
• 1:01:49
  at like 4:00 a.m. in the morning still pitch black and there were
• 1:01:54
  >> people everywhere. So, you're never going to get that >> one amazing shot that
• 1:02:01
  >> it's just you and the temple. >> Yeah. So, I just wanted to help me with
• 1:02:06
  that, but using the photos I took and me, not
• 1:02:13
  >> stuff up from other people's photos or anything. Like when they asked the CEOs
• 1:02:16
  about this, Samsung's CEO said they he thinks people want the memory,
• 1:02:22
  not necessarily like like they're not super worried about the
• 1:02:28
  photo being literally the photo they took. They want to be able to look at it
• 1:02:32
  and remember what it was like having that experience. And I kind of get I
• 1:02:37
  can't Yeah, I kind of get that too. But my I also I just can't get past this
• 1:02:42
  thing where I'm like, "But I took a photo." >> Yeah. I want
• 1:02:46
  >> That's not a photo. That's just fake. Like >> Yeah. I want what I took. I just need
• 1:02:51
  some help to tidy up. >> Yeah. >> Some of the stuff. But use all the
• 1:02:56
  photos I took cuz I took hundreds. >> Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  >> Like it's like And yeah, I I It's a hard thing. But yeah, I don't
• 1:03:04
  >> No, I think it's weird. I I'm I'm going to have to I I I assume I'm actually
• 1:03:08
  just going to get over it at some point because this is going to become so common.
• 1:03:11
  >> Well, here's the thing. We will eventually get over it. It's the same
• 1:03:15
  thing when Kindles came out. >> Okay. I mean, it's just not quite the same thing, but
• 1:03:21
  >> it is. When Kindles came out, a lot of people were, well, no, that's never
• 1:03:25
  going to replace me having a book. I'm always going to go to books. And then, >> yeah,
• 1:03:30
  >> the transition eventually came. And yes, people still like to go back to books,
• 1:03:35
  but the Kindle is >> sure, but I mean the I'm not opposed to the digital
• 1:03:41
  aspect of it. I'm opposed to the fact that
• 1:03:46
  that if the AI generates the thing, that's not that's not what was there
• 1:03:53
  when I was there. >> No, but I mean the whole thing of the
• 1:03:56
  where where I think where the the Samsung guys come is like it's it's the
• 1:04:00
  memory that you're going for. And I think that's going to replace what we're
• 1:04:05
  actually upset about in the future. >> You're right. I'm just I just have
• 1:04:08
  trouble with this particular thing for some reason. >> It's kind of become the norm in
• 1:04:13
  >> very quickly unfortunately cuz everything's happening so quickly at
• 1:04:17
  >> I know. I know. I know. >> The reframing I show this demo of it
• 1:04:22
  >> where it was like and he was like moving the camera and you could see I just like
• 1:04:27
  ah that bugs me. >> Yeah. cuz that's not that's just making stuff up.
• 1:04:31
  >> It's just like Yeah, exactly. It's like it's it's inferring it based on what's
• 1:04:36
  in the photo, but it's not real. >> It might actually crazy thing is it
• 1:04:42
  might actually be pretty correct with if you go to some famous places.
• 1:04:48
  >> Unless you know what, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it like takes a bunch of photos
• 1:04:52
  and does it based on reality. I don't know. I I just watched this demo and I
• 1:04:56
  was like, I don't like that because it's to me it's not
• 1:05:01
  >> we're in a different world to what your daughter is going to be experiencing in
• 1:05:05
  the next 15 years. >> To me, when I take a photo, I'm
• 1:05:08
  capturing a moment of reality. >> And when you start [ __ ] with it, I
• 1:05:14
  get uncomfortable. My I can't help it. It's like I think it's like the CGI
• 1:05:19
  thing in the movies. It's like I just feel like, no, no, no, just film the
• 1:05:23
  real thing. I when I travel now for like
• 1:05:26
  my big trips, I have camera with film now. >> Oh yeah.
• 1:05:31
  >> I'm actually going to try and go just completely old school.
• 1:05:34
  >> Really? Okay. That's expensive now. >> It is expensive. And the camera I
• 1:05:39
  brought was very expensive for a very old camera.
• 1:05:43
  >> But but and I haven't even actually got them developed yet. I need to go and do
• 1:05:47
  that. But I'm actually going to try and do that a little bit more and try and
• 1:05:52
  because yes, I've got my I've got my DSLR and I've got my phone where I click
• 1:05:57
  click click click, but I want to try and take some photos that I'm just trying to
• 1:06:02
  capture like this moment and it's going to be on film and that's that's it. Like
• 1:06:06
  there's no >> no messing around. >> No messing around. And yeah, it was on
• 1:06:10
  one of the trips I went on last year. There was a girl from England and she
• 1:06:14
  actually sent a photo like this is one of the photos I took on film
• 1:06:18
  >> and it was a great shot and it like >> and it was I think that means a little
• 1:06:22
  bit more because >> it's not something that you took 20 photos and managed to get one that
• 1:06:29
  >> that's thing too. I think when you when when when you only had what however many
• 1:06:34
  25 photos or whatever you can fit in a roll of film, you were more selective
• 1:06:37
  and took more time to take a nice photo whereas now you're just like [ __ ]
• 1:06:40
  taking photos of everything. >> Yep. And and that's what I'm trying to
• 1:06:44
  look at and try and hope that I can capture some of those more special
• 1:06:47
  moments in that like I've got one shot at this because I'm not going to take
• 1:06:51
  >> cuz film's expensive getting film expensive so I'm not going to take two
• 1:06:55
  or three photos. I'm going to take one. >> Yeah, just AI. You just scan it in and
• 1:06:59
  then have the AI fix it later. It's fine, Luke. >> Fix it in post.
• 1:07:03
  >> Well, look, if you need to pay that camera off, I think we're going to have
• 1:07:09
  to move over to the Patreon to the after. >> I cannot believe how quickly this
• 1:07:14
  episode has gone. >> It's cuz [laughter] we just This is one
• 1:07:16
  of those ones where I sometimes, this happens where we're chatting and it gets
• 1:07:21
  to the end and I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ] We didn't talk about much that's in the
• 1:07:23
  thing. People are going to hate this." And people always are like, "No, that
• 1:07:26
  was a really good episode." So hopefully that's hopefully that's the case.
• 1:07:29
  >> Yeah, because I think it's just one of this is one of those which is very
• 1:07:32
  natural just fun which is these these are the types of conversations which led
• 1:07:37
  us to start a podcast to begin with I believe. >> Yeah. Uh there's still a lot of stuff in
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