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Drive Thru News #34 - He’s as lost as a 10 millimeter socket! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Here we go.
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  This is going to be special, but before we get into all that, welcome
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  to the drive through episode number 34.
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  This is our monthly recap, where we put together a menu of automotive motor
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  sport and random car adjacent news.
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  Now let's pull up to the window for some automotive news.
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  We have to retract one of our statements.
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  We thought we were going to have a special guest host.
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  Instead, we have a special episode of The Drive Thru for you, where we
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  focus on finding things that were lost.
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  We found Tanya this month.
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  She's here with us.
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  Woo!
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  Not only did we find her, we found two of her.
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  Double Trouble.
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  Isn't there a song something Double Trouble?
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  Which Tanya do I address?
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  Well, there's Double Vision.
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  I'm seeing Double Vision.
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  I'm definitely seeing that right now.
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  Yeah, I think Double Vision isn't that, that's a foreigner song, right?
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  Yeah, I think so.
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  It's called Double Vision.
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  And you can only see that.
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  Yeah.
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  But you know what else, Brad?
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  This episode has a new sponsor.
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  Oh, yeah?
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  This episode brought to you by Gray Chevrolet.
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  Where you can pick up a 1988 Cadillac DeVille base model for 17, 988.
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  Get yourself down to Gray Chevrolet and tell them you heard it here on Brake Fix.
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  We've never started a drive thru episode with Lost and Found before.
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  So this is kind of fun.
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  And what set it into motion is not Tanya saying that she was going to
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  be here, but she came to the table with this really interesting article
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  about all things, the Titanic.
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  How is this car, Jason?
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  Was there a car on the Titanic?
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  Don't think so.
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  There were piano players on the Titanic.
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  We may find out after this 3d scan that there were cars on Titanic, but what's
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  brilliant about this is they have this new technology that is really, really
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  super accurate and they can 3d scan the floor of the ocean and all this fun stuff.
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  And yet.
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  All the pictures from space look like they were taken on a 1
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  megapixel camera from 30 years ago.
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  We still continue to find cars in barns month after month after month.
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  But hey, we can map the ocean floor in high res 3 dimensions, right?
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  It is Car, Jason, Tanya, and here's why.
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  It actually ties into, spoiler alert, a future episode where we sit down with
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  author Larry Jorgensen and we talk about a book he wrote called Shipwrecked and
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  Rescued, which is all about shipwrecks where it was carrying cars and
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  Michigan and all this kind of stuff.
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  Don Weaver from Garage Style and I sat down and interviewed
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  him and that was actually quite delightful conversation and it's.
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  Been pre released several times through other affiliates, but it's going to
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  be coming out here very, very soon.
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  So you can tune into that.
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  But I thought it was kind of funny that if we can map the ocean, we kind
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  of need to map Lake Michigan and some of the other things that Larry talked
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  about on that episode and see how many 1920s Chryslers are still sitting
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  at the bottom of the lake, or, you know, maybe they'll find Jimmy Hoffa.
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  I'm not sure which.
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  Along with all things lost and found, we're going to talk
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  a little bit about history.
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  It's a little bit of what should I buy as well.
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  So right at the top of that list, we're going to hit you hard with the
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  cheapest 300 horsepower cars you can buy.
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  You know, I've been looking through this list and the sad part is all
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  of them, except for the Camaro 1LT, they're all over 30, 000.
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  Yeah, that's the new base price these days.
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  If you're not paying 35 for a car, which is something I swore I'd never
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  do, you're not getting anything.
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  Where's the Golf R on this list?
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  That's because it's 45.
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  Is it?
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  Dude, it's so expensive.
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  And isn't it 400 horsepower now?
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  More than 300, I guess.
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  The GR Corolla's on here, Todd.
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  Yeah, it is!
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  For a meager price of 36, 995.
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  The four cylinder turbo Mustang's a good deal in here, an entry price of 29, 100.
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  And having had experience with one, I mean, we know that
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  they do perform really well.
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  I think it has better weight distribution than the V8.
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  Granted, people argue it doesn't have the power to get out of its own
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  way, but John's, he put that Ford performance package on there with
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  the chip from the factory and he was making like 378 at the wheels.
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  I mean, that's pretty substantial for a four banger.
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  Exactly.
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  That's really good.
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  I enjoy driving that.
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  I mean, I've driven the Coyote powered Mustangs as well.
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  I've been in plenty of Shelby 350s, the track, but you know, the four banger for
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  30 grand, if you want a two door coupe with a manual transmission and rear
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  wheel drive, it's sort of hard to beat.
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  We'll go around the horn real quick.
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  Which car on this list would you have?
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  You only get one.
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  Do I get two?
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  You get two.
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  There are two of you here.
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  That's true.
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  Eric, go.
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  Man, I'd have to go with the Kia Stinger.
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  Really?
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  That is such a surprise.
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  After you just waxed poetic about the Mustang 4 cylinder turbo, the SVO.
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  Mustang's the obvious choice.
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  The Stinger, because it's the precursor to the N74 Vision, which we
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  can't have yet and is going to cost 200, 000, I'll go with the Stinger.
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  Yes, because they look exactly the same.
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  Same car underneath.
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  Tanya Wan.
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  GR Corolla.
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  Pizarro Tanya.
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  The Mustang.
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  I would go with the GR Corolla.
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  Moving on.
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  To the hottest family cars that are genuinely fun to drive in 2023.
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  What the F is this Aston Martin DBX 707?
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  Whose family car is this?
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  For 235, 000.
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  This list is a hot...
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  Mess.
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  This is rich people family cars.
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  Yeah, I feel like this is in the wrong section.
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  This should be in rich people doing rich people things.
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  The first car is 235.
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  The next car is 123.
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  Then we got the bargain basement Taycan at 99.
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  Oh, then you get the Jeep Gladiator, which is a terrible, terrible family car.
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  What was this moron smoking?
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  Did the person who wrote this ever actually drive a Jeep?
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  Nope.
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  Because they ride like a medieval ox cart.
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  Ask me how I know.
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  The other things on this list, just, I don't get it.
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  A Hyundai Kona?
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  The Hyundai Kona, there's the WRX, Civic Type R, which is, yes, because
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  the Civic is as big as an Accord, but not the Type R, that's not a family car.
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  I don't know, the Camry has 300 horsepower, so it's...
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  The same.
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  This list is stupid.
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  So here's the problem with the word family car.
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  Unfortunately, there's stereotypes around that.
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  So you start thinking, quote unquote, mom mobile.
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  And I know it's not okay to say that.
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  No, I'm thinking you have children that you're carrying
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  this with your spouse or whoever.
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  And it's like, you're not going to go around unless you're a rich person.
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  200, 000 Panamera Turbo SE Hybrid Sport Turismo.
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  I mean, what kind of family car is that?
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  But if you're dad and you only have to haul the kids around
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  every once in a while, it's okay.
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  I don't know about you being a dad, Eric, but I can't afford a 235, 000 car.
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  Can you afford a 235, 000 car?
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  No, no.
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  This is why I'm a cartoon avatar this month.
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  I can't even afford the zoom payment.
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  Mercedes AMG E63 S Wagon, 600 horsepower, V8, all wheel drive, 122, 000, really?
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  This list just doesn't make any, there's no continuity between the list.
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  The Hellcat is not a family car.
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  There's no cohesiveness between the list.
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  The WRX and the Civic, even like the Civic Si, I think would have been
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  a better option for a family car.
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  What is a typical family car these days?
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  None of these.
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  They're all SUVs.
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  Exactly.
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  There's not a single SUV on this list.
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  That, that's...
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  Well, that's not true.
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  Not true.
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  Well, there's the Alpha.
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  There's the Alpha.
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  There's the Aston Martin.
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  Is that thing an SUV?
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  Yeah.
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  And then there's the I Pace something or other.
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  Isn't that an SUV?
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  That looked very squat.
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  If they had changed this list to Petrelhead Father's
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  Day Special or something.
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  When you win the lottery, this can be your family car.
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  Yes, but this is like...
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  What you buy the dad, who's a petrol head that sold his sports
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  car, you know, that kind of thing.
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  Like if you put it in that context.
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  Then it all sort of makes sense.
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  But to say, these are hot family cars.
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  Yeah, this is trash.
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  Now I will say we have to give a special hall pass to the Audi.
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  The wagon of all wagons.
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  Well, there's also an AMG 63 S.
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  Yeah, but it's not as cool.
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  It's not as cool as the Audi because the Audi has these flares.
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  It has these hips.
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  If you've ever seen one in person, it is the coolest station wagon.
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  In a long time for me as a long roof society member
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  myself, I really like this car.
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  Now, 123, 000 is a bit much, but it is probably worth every penny of it.
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  That's all I'm saying.
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  Maybe it should just say family car alternatives.
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  We're just subjectively nitpicking.
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  We don't like Brian Silvestro, I think is the thing.
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  Well, we're going to see a trend as we go through this drive through this month.
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  I noticed that a lot of the articles were coming from the drive and I'm starting to
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  wonder if they're turning into Jalopnik.
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  I'm not sure I can trust what I've been reading.
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  We'll get into that as we go along.
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  Also talking about what were they smoking?
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  The new segment, what were they smoking?
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  Best affordable sports cars of 2023 from money.
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  com.
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  And this was all broken down in different segments.
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  Like you can best family car, best this car, best economy car.
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  So I honed in on best sports car.
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  Cause I was really curious.
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  Here's how they broke it down.
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  Best overall value and best overall went to the Toyota GR 86 best for
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  safety, the burrs, which is the GR 86.
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  So the GR 86 took first and fourth place.
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  Apparently the Nissan Z best for features.
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  The Chevy Camaro best for technology, which I'm a little puzzled about.
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  And then finally, who won best handling the USS Dodge challenger.
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  Good night.
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  I love how there's only one kind of sports car ish.
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  Category.
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  No, I like that under the Dodge Challenger, it says
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  few standard safety features.
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  Wow.
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  It's got a seatbelt.
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  I didn't know what to think about this.
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  We've gone from like one extreme to the other, right?
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  We went from 300 horsepower cars.
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  Okay, great.
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  So the family car, okay, whatever.
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  And now this, how does it handle better than like a, 86 or BRZ.
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  There's no way.
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  Maybe if I'm pushing Matchbox around my table it handles better?
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  Like, who tested these cars?
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  All three of these articles almost infuriate me as much as the yearly
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  Consumer Reports thing, where it's so all over the map, where they'll
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  ditch one car like the BRZ and say how terrible it is, and then they'll
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  commend Toyota for how great the GR86 is.
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  And I'm like, do you people not realize it's literally the same car?
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  Stiffer badges on it.
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  It's notorious for stuff like that, and I just wonder who writes this stuff.
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  So the person that writes this stuff, her name is Jacqueline Trop.
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  She joined money in April, 2023.
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  So she's new and every single one of her articles is best.
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  The Best Subcompact SUVs of 2023.
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  The best electric SUVs of 2023.
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  The best plugin hybrid SUVs of 2023.
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  The best hybrid SUVs, 2023 Best three Row SUVs.
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  Best minivans, best large SUVs.
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  That's very specific categories.
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  Every single one of her articles for this, that's her thing.
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  That's okay.
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  Cause we're going to go over to MotorTrend where they know a thing or two about cars.
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  They know a thing or two cause they've seen a thing or two.
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  Yeah.
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  You think?
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  And I love the title of this.
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  Hell will freeze over before these cars become collectibles.
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  I mean, they're not wrong.
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  I have a problem with the first car.
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  The Chevy Lumina?
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  Was that the first one?
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  What is there not to like about the Cadillac Catera, also known as an Opel?
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  No, that's, that's just the cover photo.
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  Oh no, it's the Jaguar.
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  The first car.
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  The Jaguar S Type R.
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  You mean the Ford Mondeo S Type R.
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  Exactly.
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  What's wrong with the Mondeo again?
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  Absolutely nothing.
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  And maybe that's just it because it's built on a commodity platform
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  that it will never be desirable.
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  It doesn't really have any sort of specialness or rarity to it.
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  I look at it and go, that's awesome.
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  It means there's a ton of parts and maybe ability to modify it, do other things
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  with it, make it bespoke in a certain way.
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  And honestly, this Jag.
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  It's pretty handsome.
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  Yeah, I think it was a nice looking saloon.
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  To tell you a car that was god awful ugly is the Mercury Cougar on this list.
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  Yeah, that Cadillac wasn't very nice either.
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  No, I refuse to even acknowledge it.
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  I'm moving right to the Mercury.
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  And I remembered that little baby shoe of the Aston Signet was created
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  and then I immediately like deleted it from my brain because I was like,
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  why did Aston make a smart car?
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  Like I just don't that that will never be collectible ever.
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  The only one on here that I could see being collectible, but it would be a
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  niche collectors market, is the Subaru.
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  The Baja?
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  I could see that there'd be like some cult followers that would
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  like have 10 of them or something.
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  Those are the same people that buy the Pontiac Aztec.
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  Exactly.
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  But if you're gonna go down that route, I saw one even the other
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  day, you get an old Subaru Brat.
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  And there was like older gentlemen driving one around that was completely restored.
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  And I was like, look at that.
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  There's a Subaru from the eighties.
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  There's a survivor.
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  And that's cool.
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  The new Baja, which tries to be the brat.
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  You look at it and you go, that's a messed up look at legacy.
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  Yeah, that's all it is, but I will say there's one car on,
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  we're going to get to that.
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  Come on.
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  Am I, am I going to take your thunder?
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  I'll, I'll, I'll let you do it.
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  No, no, no.
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  I don't want to offend any of our fans out there.
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  Oh yes.
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  Yes.
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  Please do.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Now I know.
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  Okay.
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  Nevermind.
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  Before we get to that though, there are some other ones on here that
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  I think are arguably Interesting.
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  Like the 318 Ti, I think is a collector car.
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  People do a lot of swaps with those, the E36 based car.
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  So what makes it a collector car?
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  Making it a different car.
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  100%!
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  You take a car, you turn it into something else, and now it's a collector car.
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  Yeah, that's a collector car.
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  You know, I know a lot of people, they like gut these and
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  they take them to the track.
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  That's not a collector car.
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  No, it's a donor car.
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  That's a rolling chassis is what that is.
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  You're right.
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  It's a collection though.
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  I feel the Ford.
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  Contour.
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  Contour SVT actually.
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  I used to lust after those when I was back in high school.
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  I thought they were pretty snazzy.
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  And then the Ford Probe GT too.
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  No, that was so lame.
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  No, I drove a 24 valve probe in Europe and it was awesome.
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  I actually really enjoyed that car.
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  So which was the one we got?
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  The one I drove was a us spec car.
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  It was brought over.
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  No, it was great.
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  It's a Mazda six to six.
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  It's got all the Mazda things you expect.
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  It handles pretty well.
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  It's got good power.
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  They designed it.
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  Sort of to compete with the Corrado, but the Corrado will clean its clock
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  because it weighs so much less.
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  I mean, this thing is so lame looking.
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  No, it's cool.
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  The probe is cool.
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  The 318 TI is not backed into a wall or like a hundred miles an hour.
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  I did like the Mercedes Benz 320 compressor Coupa.
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  Well, how can you like that and not like the 318 TI?
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  I think the compressor looks weird because I'm not a BMW guy.
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  I'm not a Beamer guy.
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  It's terrible.
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  But there's one car we have not mentioned on this list.
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  And that's for a very specific reason.
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  Are we going to go there?
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  We can avoid it.
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  We're just going to skip it all together.
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  Should we just skip it?
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  No, I think our fans would be sad if we didn't, they would be remiss.
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  If we did not mention this, it is not a Tesla.
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  It's a car you've searched for many times on cars.
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  com and bring a trailer and other places.
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  It's a car we've talked about several times.
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  Craigslist is where you should be looking for it.
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  Craigslist.
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  Facebook marketplace marketplace.
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  What's a step below Craig's list?
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  A Facebook marketplace.
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  Yes.
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  You'll find it in the garbage bin on Facebook marketplace.
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  It is the Chevrolet HHR SS turbocharged.
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  You know, what's awesome about that?
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  Nothing.
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  This car is trash.
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  But they handle so well and they're very fast, I've heard.
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  You can get 500 horsepower out of them.
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  I mean, which is true, you can get a lot of power out of them, but still,
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  you're still driving a piece of shit.
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  Tanya 1 and Tanya 2.
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  Think about it this way, though.
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  This is why the HHR is awesome.
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  It made this list of terrible, uncollectible cars.
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  And you know, what's missing from this list and can now say it's second
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  place to this is the PT cruiser and the Dodge Dart and the Aztec.
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  Like all these cars we know are terrible.
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  Didn't make it on this list.
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  Maybe it's because whoever put this list together, didn't realize that
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  those cars were still on the road.
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  Cause I think those other cars are collectible and that's just it.
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  Right?
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  See the PT cruiser did it first and that's why it's collectible.
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  No, not at all.
• 17:23
  No, nobody tried to outdo the Aztec at whatever the Aztec was trying to do.
• 17:28
  You know what is super collectible and I hope that maybe one day I'll
• 17:32
  get 55 for mine, you know, which is 5 more than I ever bid on a car.
• 17:37
  I will give you 56 for yours right now.
• 17:40
  Oh, will you?
• 17:41
  All right.
• 17:41
  Car of the Week!
• 17:42
  According to Rob Report, ultra rare 1971 Porsche.
• 17:47
  914 6 was expected to fetch a cool 550, 000 at auction.
• 17:55
  I have a model car of this exact vehicle on my desk.
• 17:59
  Again, 55 bucks is where I'm at.
• 18:03
  But it's just a stock.
• 18:04
  It is a 914 6.
• 18:05
  There's nothing.
• 18:06
  There's something else special about it.
• 18:08
  Yes.
• 18:09
  The objective of complying with SCCA rules regarding production, Porsche
• 18:13
  made approximately 400 of the M471 conversion kit, blah, blah, blah,
• 18:19
  without getting into all the very technical Porsche stuff about this.
• 18:23
  I missed that part.
• 18:24
  Okay.
• 18:25
  It's some homologation competition option group package
• 18:30
  that they made for the 914 6.
• 18:32
  So the price goes up with every single one of those words that
• 18:35
  you just said, the price goes up.
• 18:37
  And what's deceiving about this is you realize it's
• 18:40
  basically the very, very first.
• 18:43
  914 six GT, it has the big flares, it accommodates the
• 18:47
  bigger wheels from the nine 11.
• 18:49
  And so when you first look at it, you're not really paying attention to it.
• 18:53
  You're like, Oh, it's a blue nine 14 big deal.
• 18:55
  It's that very, very early nine 14, six GT.
• 18:59
  And those cars, you know, obviously went on to win many races, Nurburgring
• 19:03
  things like that later on in life.
• 19:04
  Kind of cool.
• 19:05
  This is akin to the nine 24 DP.
• 19:10
  That Al Holbert and his team were building for SCCA as well.
• 19:13
  Like they had these option groups for the Porsche cars to be able to compete
• 19:17
  probably in classes by themselves.
• 19:18
  This is along those lines for the nine 14, but still half a million bucks for flares.
• 19:23
  That's a lot.
• 19:25
  Yeah.
• 19:25
  Okay.
• 19:26
  That's fun.
• 19:26
  Too rich for my blood.
• 19:28
  Other things, historical and fun and rich people doing rich people things.
• 19:31
  And it ties into formula one as well.
• 19:33
  Sebastian Vettel.
• 19:34
  Getting back behind the wheel of a Formula One car at Goodwood.
• 19:38
  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
• 19:39
  Who's he gonna be driving for?
• 19:42
  Haas?
• 19:43
  No, he's driving for Team Vettel.
• 19:45
  His own collection of F1 cars.
• 19:47
  Oh.
• 19:48
  This is really, really, really cool.
• 19:50
  And an autocross?
• 19:51
  Like, where's he gonna be?
• 19:52
  Goodwood.
• 19:53
  Ah, what?
• 19:54
  Festival of speed.
• 19:56
  Oh, that's actually kind of awesome.
• 19:57
  But the big thing that he's pushing, so apparently he's got like an
• 20:00
  ex Nigel Mansell formula car.
• 20:02
  He's got a McLaren MP4 that Senna drove.
• 20:06
  I don't know which of the ones he's going to drive or maybe he's driving
• 20:09
  several of them, but the thing about it, I guess it's cooler or whatever.
• 20:14
  more important is he's now on this sustainability kick and he was
• 20:18
  starting to go down that path while he was still driving in Formula
• 20:21
  One, recognizing the impact of fossil fuels and blah, blah, blah.
• 20:25
  He is going to run them on e fuels.
• 20:28
  Ooh, that's pretty neat.
• 20:31
  Is he going to get a haircut?
• 20:32
  I'd be nice, but you know, F1 and he is looking homeless.
• 20:37
  He had that hair in F1.
• 20:39
  So I think that's COVID hair, they call it.
• 20:42
  COVID hair.
• 20:43
  I mean, if you're buying old Formula One cars, you run out of money quick, I think.
• 20:48
  I had heard that he had bought Nigel's car.
• 20:50
  I didn't know about Senna.
• 20:51
  I think he also has like one of Mark Webber's cars, something like that.
• 20:55
  And then there's a bunch of other cars in his stable because he is a car collector.
• 20:58
  But I think that's kind of cool.
• 20:59
  And it's not the first time he's been to Goodwood.
• 21:02
  So something to look out for.
• 21:04
  Well, we might have a field trip in our future.
• 21:06
  Did you guys hear that Chip Ganassi tests race cars in our backyard?
• 21:10
  Uh, yep.
• 21:12
  I heard just now.
• 21:13
  Well, in southwestern Pennsylvania, out towards the kind folks of the Pittsburgh
• 21:18
  area, there is a 4, 500 foot long tunnel.
• 21:22
  That runs underneath Laurel Ridge.
• 21:24
  It has had many uses over the years.
• 21:27
  It was originally for railroads and some other stuff.
• 21:29
  And they were going to use it for diverting traffic.
• 21:31
  Things like that didn't really work out.
• 21:32
  And eventually it was abandoned and it found its new purpose in 2004.
• 21:39
  as a race car test center for the chip ganassi racing team lord knows what
• 21:44
  they're doing in the bat cave but i want to go check it out they're not
• 21:48
  building for gts but can you imagine what it must sound like with your own
• 21:52
  personal tunnel doing dino poles and top speed runs and other things like that
• 21:58
  i mean that's got to be pretty Awesome.
• 22:00
  Yes, it would be very awesome.
• 22:02
  I love this one little quote from the article.
• 22:04
  Tunnels railroad routes make it well suited for testing cars at speeds up
• 22:08
  to and perhaps over 100 miles an hour.
• 22:11
  Wow.
• 22:12
  100 miles an hour.
• 22:13
  Obviously you don't know how fast race cars are.
• 22:16
  And if you do venture out to the Laurel Hill Tunnel, you can also enjoy yourself
• 22:21
  on the Laurel Hill Hiking Trail.
• 22:23
  You can't actually go into it.
• 22:24
  At best, you can, like, see it from the outside.
• 22:27
  You could call and find out if they're doing tours and things.
• 22:30
  I think this would be fun.
• 22:31
  Based on the way the article was written, no, they're not.
• 22:34
  What?
• 22:35
  To get a tour of this facility, but it is part of Atlas obscura's collection
• 22:40
  of unique things in the United States and other parts of the world.
• 22:43
  So if you haven't checked out their website before you ever seen those
• 22:46
  books, like weird Maryland and weird Portland, oh wait, no, that's
• 22:50
  just the Portland yellow pages.
• 22:52
  You know, all those books.
• 22:53
  That highlight all the strange things in your state.
• 22:55
  So this is right along the, up there with it, uh, over on atlasobscura.
• 22:59
  com.
• 23:00
  Oh, and I moved to a new state.
• 23:01
  So all kinds of fun stuff for me to find down here.
• 23:04
  Down under?
• 23:05
  Down under.
• 23:06
  Crikey!
• 23:07
  I see that the value of dodge darts have gone up.
• 23:11
  Yeah, I don't actually think so.
• 23:15
  Dude, I love this meme.
• 23:16
  This meme is hilarious.
• 23:18
  In 2017, you could get a Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat for $65,000.
• 23:25
  In 2022, you could get a Dodge Challenger RT No Hellcat for $65,000.
• 23:32
  In 2030, you can get a brand new 2014 Dodge Dart.
• 23:37
  For 65, 000 with the prices, the way they're going these days.
• 23:42
  That is not far off.
• 23:44
  It's called an inflation.
• 23:45
  It's called insanity over and bring a trailer, right?
• 23:48
  There is something off the charts.
• 23:49
  So I've been scouring bring a trailer and I found something very peculiar.
• 23:53
  Oh, it is a 2006.
• 23:56
  Chevrolet Tahoe Z71 4x4 with 16, 000 miles.
• 24:04
  How much would you think this truck sold for?
• 24:06
  I'm gonna go with our obvious guess here.
• 24:09
  65, 000.
• 24:11
  Close.
• 24:12
  What?
• 24:12
  This truck sold for 40, 000.
• 24:15
  What?
• 24:16
  Some moron.
• 24:17
  And yes.
• 24:19
  I'm calling you a moron.
• 24:20
  Paid 40, 000 for this stupid thing.
• 24:26
  Oh my god.
• 24:26
  40, 000, I hate to say, you could pick up a couple year old pickup?
• 24:31
  Maybe a base model F 150 or a Tundra or 000, you can pick up like a 2017 Tahoe.
• 24:37
  Right?
• 24:38
  You don't need to buy a 2006, which has basically the same motor.
• 24:42
  They're both 5.
• 24:43
  3 liters.
• 24:44
  I'm telling you, you'll want the newer motor.
• 24:46
  Now that square bodies are so expensive, they have to move on to the round bodies.
• 24:50
  That's why that 2006 is desirable.
• 24:53
  It is not desirable.
• 24:54
  Whoever bought this is You dumb.
• 24:56
  Speaking of things Mountain Man Dan would be interested in, He
• 25:00
  texted us on Discord the other day, and he said he was considering,
• 25:03
  of all things, a station wagon.
• 25:05
  Can you believe this guy?
• 25:07
  So he said at one point, he considered it.
• 25:10
  I don't know why he would buy something so new.
• 25:13
  They didn't make a CTS V wagon in 1985.
• 25:17
  What they did is the family truckster.
• 25:21
  Buick Roadmasters.
• 25:22
  I didn't realize there was a square body CTS V wagon.
• 25:26
  Put a 454 in that Buick Roadmaster.
• 25:28
  You're all right.
• 25:29
  That's the CTS V.
• 25:30
  There you go.
• 25:30
  Yeah.
• 25:31
  And it's a square body, you see.
• 25:33
  Why was that not on the family haulers list?
• 25:36
  So Dan tells us that he's considered a CTSV wagon before, and he
• 25:40
  sends us a link to a new one.
• 25:42
  And you know what the price was on that?
• 25:44
  Our magic number of 65, 000 because it's a car that was 40
• 25:49
  when it was new and it's 65 today.
• 25:51
  So here we go again.
• 25:53
  I should just do a search on bring a trailer for anything 65, 000.
• 25:56
  That's the new price point right there, man.
• 25:58
  That's craziness.
• 25:59
  I scoured the internet and I found something you will find interesting.
• 26:04
  You can get either a brand new 2000 that's two zero zero zero
• 26:11
  Volkswagen Jetta, GLS TDI, or.
• 26:16
  A 2000 Volkswagen Jetta GLS VR6, both of them brand new, according to
• 26:24
  the site at Alexandria Volkswagen, just up the road from me, just down
• 26:29
  the road from you, MSRP, 23, 000.
• 26:32
  Oh man.
• 26:32
  The price of my car just went up through the roof.
• 26:35
  My God.
• 26:35
  So if anybody wants a brand new Mark four Volkswagen, either the gasser or
• 26:41
  the diesel, you can get one brand new.
• 26:43
  My left foot.
• 26:44
  6, 500 becomes 65, 000 really quick at a zero.
• 26:50
  Located in the scenic suburbs of Joseph city, Arizona, destined
• 26:55
  to fetch a high value here, I present you with the 2001 Acura.
• 27:01
  You know what, I think this is a steal.
• 27:03
  The cost of wood prices?
• 27:04
  I mean, shit, you buy this for the wood.
• 27:07
  Brad, how much Dogecoin would you give for this?
• 27:09
  I am still selling my Cybertruck reservation.
• 27:13
  If anybody wants to buy my Cybertruck reservation for 3,
• 27:17
  000, I will turn around and buy.
• 27:19
  The Acura Plymouth truck.
• 27:20
  You should, because you're guaranteed delivery on this Plymouth truck.
• 27:23
  I wonder what the, uh, insurance is on this.
• 27:26
  Do you have to take out, like, special insurance due to termite infestation?
• 27:31
  Is there special fire insurance?
• 27:33
  Yeah, exactly.
• 27:35
  But they'll include a camper attachment with it.
• 27:38
  Did you see those exhaust pipes?
• 27:40
  I love the interior.
• 27:43
  It's got the star interior from a Rolls Royce.
• 27:46
  The things people will spend money on and build just blow my mind.
• 27:53
  My question is, is there an actual car under there?
• 27:56
  The body is under there and it's just covered in geometrically aligned
• 28:02
  Cybertruck esque plywood panels.
• 28:06
  If you look at the interior picture and you look at the roof, that's wood.
• 28:10
  There is no, like, Acura MDX underneath this.
• 28:14
  Oh, what?
• 28:14
  You know what?
• 28:14
  You're right.
• 28:15
  It's Acura MDX chassis.
• 28:17
  There are no MDX body panels on this.
• 28:20
  You're right.
• 28:20
  The roof, from the inside shot, you can see the wood, so they cut the roof off.
• 28:25
  This was a unibody car.
• 28:26
  How the fuck did they do this?
• 28:29
  I don't know that any of that matters, because there's two important points here.
• 28:33
  First of all, it is a legitimate Tesla like product because the
• 28:37
  parts were sourced from the same place that Tesla sources its parts.
• 28:41
  The other thing is, I have to commend them on the precision of the alignment of the
• 28:47
  body panels and all of the color matches.
• 28:51
  Look at that panel gap.
• 28:54
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 28:55
  Elon better watch his back.
• 28:56
  Acura is coming for you.
• 28:58
  This is one of those moments when you're up at the mountain and Dan's
• 29:00
  like, I can do it for cheaper.
• 29:02
  The question is, is this going to be a collectible more than the HHR?
• 29:06
  I think this will be in a museum.
• 29:08
  You'll see this in like Ripley's Believe It or Not.
• 29:10
  By museum, you mean bonfire.
• 29:12
  Junkyard, same difference.
• 29:15
  I have a question.
• 29:16
  I guess in fairness, there's no rules around this.
• 29:18
  It's street legal.
• 29:20
  Yeah, because it's an Acura MDX.
• 29:22
  Yeah, it's titled as an MDX.
• 29:24
  But if the body panels have been removed, disturbed, I mean,
• 29:30
  clearly the front bumper, the crash brace bar is still there.
• 29:34
  So I guess structurally and safety wise, what if you get Hit in this wood box.
• 29:43
  Well, they put you straight in the ground.
• 29:46
  You're already in your coffin.
• 29:48
  Nobody light a match.
• 29:49
  Like you can't smoke it.
• 29:51
  This is a no smokers car.
• 29:53
  This thing is genius.
• 29:55
  That's all.
• 29:56
  Do you think this is like treated?
• 29:58
  Like If it's out in the elements, because it has no windows.
• 30:02
  It still has the barcode on the fender, like when he bought it from Home Depot.
• 30:06
  I mean, you can tell it's ridiculous.
• 30:08
  But did he splurge for the pressure treated outdoor grade?
• 30:12
  It's Arizona, it's there in the desert.
• 30:14
  It doesn't really, you're right.
• 30:16
  It doesn't rain, Sarazona.
• 30:17
  I like the added touch of the tire shine on the tire treads.
• 30:21
  Did you guys notice that?
• 30:22
  That's fresh to def, yo.
• 30:26
  This thing is awesome.
• 30:27
  But you know what?
• 30:28
  All jokes aside, it has something in common with a vehicle that
• 30:31
  we're going to talk about later.
• 30:32
  This thing is just amazing.
• 30:34
  Brad, I think you should give up your Cybertruck allotment for a Plybertruck.
• 30:38
  Three brand new Tesla Roadsters have been found sitting in a container for
• 30:43
  over a decade and that is where they shall remain because nobody wants them.
• 30:47
  How'd they get there?
• 30:47
  They found a shipping container in China with three brand new Tesla Roadsters.
• 30:52
  They used the 3D scanning from the Titanic now.
• 30:55
  X ray vision into the shipping containers, which I think we need actually.
• 30:59
  So many shipping containers that still, God knows what's in them.
• 31:02
  But we probably don't want to know cool.
• 31:04
  They're brand new.
• 31:04
  They're going to need new batteries.
• 31:06
  Guarantee.
• 31:06
  They don't work.
• 31:07
  I'm surprised.
• 31:08
  They haven't caught fire.
• 31:09
  I thought Tesla said you couldn't get the batteries for those anymore.
• 31:12
  So basically you had the 3000 pound paperweight, which is the scary part
• 31:16
  about some of these electric cars.
• 31:18
  What happens?
• 31:19
  When the battery technology changes, let's say we do standardize who uses D
• 31:24
  batteries anymore, as an example, anybody know you make the same power out of four
• 31:28
  double A's, you know, that kind of thing.
• 31:30
  And so what happens when you can't get the battery for your EV anymore?
• 31:34
  I think this is a classic case of brand new cars that are useless.
• 31:38
  I mean, maybe they'll end up in a museum somewhere.
• 31:41
  Yeah, it's sad.
• 31:42
  Are we sure they're really Teslas?
• 31:44
  Are they Turslers or Twizzlers or something like that?
• 31:47
  Are we sure they're Teslas?
• 31:49
  We're never quite sure.
• 31:50
  They could be protons for all we know, Malaysia.
• 31:52
  So kind of wrapping out our showcase here, talking about all things lost,
• 31:56
  found, historical, and just weird.
• 32:00
  Did you know that the Corvette finds its roots in, of all places, Watkins Glen?
• 32:05
  There's a little known story from the creator of the Corvette, Harley
• 32:09
  J Earl, who talked to the Detroit Free Press, I think it was, several
• 32:14
  years after the Corvette was built and is quoted as saying, I went to
• 32:18
  the Grand Prix at the Glen and it inspired me to build a sports car.
• 32:21
  Our friendly friends at the International Motor Racing
• 32:24
  Research Center have been digging.
• 32:26
  Into that story, going through the archives, fact
• 32:28
  checking, verifying, et cetera.
• 32:29
  And I actually got together with Kip.
• 32:31
  He did a presentation in preparation for the 70th anniversary of the
• 32:36
  Corvette this year and the 75th anniversary of Watkins Glen.
• 32:39
  And it kind of ties the two stories together.
• 32:40
  They're doing a big to do at the Glen celebrating the Corvette's birthday.
• 32:44
  It's all about Corvette this year, which is awesome.
• 32:46
  They're giving away a Corvette.
• 32:47
  Or here as we go along how you can enter to win that Corvette.
• 32:50
  We have hosted the story in a couple of different places.
• 32:53
  You can get it on Garage Style.
• 32:54
  You'll be able to get it over on gtmotorsports.
• 32:56
  org, stuff like that.
• 32:57
  And it's the little known story of how Watkins Glen influenced Harley
• 33:01
  J Earl into designing the Corvette.
• 33:03
  And the car that actually kind of sort of spawned the Corvette's beginnings
• 33:08
  is also quite interesting too.
• 33:09
  Carries the name Le Sabre.
• 33:11
  If you want to know more about the early, early, early days of the Corvette,
• 33:15
  head on over to Garage Style and GT Motorsports to check out that article.
• 33:18
  And there's one more little bit of history that we need to talk about.
• 33:22
  I think he's looking pretty damn good for 84 years young.
• 33:25
  What do y'all think?
• 33:26
  Indeed.
• 33:27
  Yeah.
• 33:28
  If you're just tuning into the show today, all you have to do is go back.
• 33:32
  One episode to know what we're talking about.
• 33:34
  In celebration of our three year anniversary of Break Fix, and 200 episodes
• 33:39
  later, and believe me, our foot is still heavy to the floor on the accelerator
• 33:43
  pedal around here, we had the legendary.
• 33:46
  If there is anyone that is the man, the myth, and the legend rolled up
• 33:49
  into one, we had Mario Andretti.
• 33:51
  On the show and a big shout out to our friend, William Ross over at exotic
• 33:55
  car marketplace for making a lot of that happen and being part of that.
• 33:59
  And I shout out to the IMRRC as well for helping us with some of
• 34:02
  the research, et cetera, but having Mario on the show was absolutely.
• 34:07
  Amazing.
• 34:07
  He is very sharp.
• 34:09
  He is very technical and he is raring to get behind the wheel of
• 34:13
  a modern formula one car again.
• 34:15
  And he talks about that on the episode.
• 34:17
  He also talks about the future of Andretti autosport and formula
• 34:20
  one and the relationship with Wayne Taylor racing as well.
• 34:23
  It wasn't just old stuff talking about dirt car or Indy or the Daytona 500.
• 34:28
  We talked about all sorts of really interesting stuff, a lot to do with
• 34:31
  his time at Le Mans in formula one.
• 34:33
  And also.
• 34:34
  If you're unaware, he ran Pike's Peak three times with Bobby Unser.
• 34:39
  So lots of really cool stuff in that episode, especially if you want to
• 34:42
  know some little tidbits about Mario's history that you might not already know.
• 34:46
  Well, that wraps up Lost and Found.
• 34:48
  Now it's time to talk about Porsche, Audi, and Volkswagen news.
• 34:51
  What do we have?
• 34:52
  We've already heard Audi's entering the Formula One fray.
• 34:55
  Gonna join with Sauber who is branded as Alfa Romeo right now, not until
• 35:00
  2026 when the new engine stuff changes.
• 35:03
  The announcement, the latest one was they're planning later this
• 35:07
  year to do bench testing on their proposed engine for the future.
• 35:11
  I would love to hear that.
• 35:13
  Rumor has it, after this episode airs, mark your calendars, June the 8th, on
• 35:18
  the anniversary of the iconic Porsche 356, Porsche is launching a new car.
• 35:24
  Another 911.
• 35:25
  Right?
• 35:26
  It's a new special edition 911 that will cost...
• 35:29
  Five million dollars on bring a trailer.
• 35:32
  Put some sort of, like, 356 badge on it then, like, I don't know, make it special.
• 35:36
  There's some interesting stuff in here, like a quote from Seinfeld
• 35:40
  that says they might be putting the flat eight in this car.
• 35:43
  I'm like...
• 35:44
  It's flat eight.
• 35:45
  What, what are we talking about here?
• 35:47
  Well, plus remember the race cars are mid engine now.
• 35:49
  Well, I guess they keep moving the six cylinder forward.
• 35:51
  They got extra space in the engine compartment.
• 35:53
  They can add two more cylinders now.
• 35:55
  So that gives them a lot more room.
• 35:56
  They could do that.
• 35:57
  I think Seinfeld's on crack, but yeah, that would be cool if they did that.
• 36:01
  Why does Porsche do the things they do?
• 36:05
  Why do they call it Ovaltine?
• 36:08
  He's got a license plate that says
• 36:12
  Plyberman.
• 36:13
  Do we need another 911?
• 36:15
  Do we need another livery package?
• 36:16
  Do we need another combination of letters?
• 36:19
  You know, whether it's the 911 ST that has been rumored.
• 36:22
  So Tanya's point, it's just going to be another 911.
• 36:24
  Where is the new 928?
• 36:26
  Where is the new 944?
• 36:28
  Where, where?
• 36:29
  Where the new 928 is the Cayenne and the new 944 is the
• 36:35
  McCann or whatever it's called.
• 36:36
  Portia do something different.
• 36:38
  I did find something interesting this month, a quick follow up as we
• 36:42
  kind of travel to Lower Saxony here.
• 36:44
  There's new news about the e ink that BMW is alleging for, you
• 36:51
  know, some of their concept cars.
• 36:52
  And you remember we heard about the e ink prism.
• 36:55
  It's that multicolor e paper film.
• 36:57
  They did it on a couple of BMW prototypes and it's like, you could have like
• 37:00
  grayscale, white, black, whatever.
• 37:03
  Now they're talking.
• 37:04
  Color changing.
• 37:06
  Whaaaaaaaaat?
• 37:08
  I don't know.
• 37:08
  Are we supposed to be surprised?
• 37:09
  No, but we speculated about this.
• 37:11
  How cool would it be going down the road and you get one of those cheesy
• 37:15
  little remotes like when you buy any Chinese LED from Amazon, right?
• 37:18
  With the little buttons that you hit in blue, green, red, yellow.
• 37:22
  Honestly, I think it's stupid and I hope it doesn't happen.
• 37:24
  Why?
• 37:25
  You don't want to automatically be able to repaint your car on the fly?
• 37:28
  It's not repainting though.
• 37:29
  No, not really.
• 37:30
  And the first rock that hits it, I'm sure, is going to F the whole thing up.
• 37:34
  Not to mention, there's just too many bad people in the world.
• 37:37
  I was about to say, what does law enforcement think about this?
• 37:39
  Oh, my car was yellow.
• 37:40
  Hit a quick button.
• 37:41
  Oh, uh, that wasn't me who just ran over an old lady on a sidewalk.
• 37:44
  That was that yellow car.
• 37:46
  My car is purple.
• 37:47
  Oh, you got to make the car red so it hides the...
• 37:49
  It's the blood.
• 37:50
  My bad.
• 37:50
  You're right.
• 37:51
  That'll all change in the future.
• 37:53
  I'm going to make a really old reference here, but it's going to be
• 37:59
  like the pilot episode of Sequest.
• 38:01
  It's going to be RFIDs and barcodes, and it doesn't matter what color your bike is
• 38:05
  or your car is or whatever, because you're not going to be able to change that tag.
• 38:09
  We're not going to need license plates in the future.
• 38:11
  Everything's going to be wireless and electronic.
• 38:13
  We're not even going to need roads in the future.
• 38:15
  Where we're going.
• 38:16
  We don't need them.
• 38:17
  Yes.
• 38:17
  I don't want that to happen either.
• 38:19
  It's going to happen.
• 38:19
  I'm telling you, we just deducted 250 from your bank account.
• 38:23
  Thank you for speeding.
• 38:25
  That's how it's going to work.
• 38:26
  I'm telling you it's coming.
• 38:27
  Sequest, but it's not going to be dollars.
• 38:29
  It's going to, we just took 250 credits from you or what's that new
• 38:33
  currency that they're talking about?
• 38:35
  That's supposed to rival the dollar muskets, muskets,
• 38:40
  the revolutionary wartime.
• 38:42
  No, Musk, Elon Musk.
• 38:44
  Oh, that's his new crew, Muskets!
• 38:46
  I like that!
• 38:47
  Well, you know what's not good, and I was a little scared the other day?
• 38:51
  A recall from Stellantis.
• 38:54
  And I'm like, luckily, thankfully, I read it very carefully.
• 38:58
  I'm glad you did because, you know, one of our members is very quick to
• 39:02
  point out whenever there's anything wrong with something that might be
• 39:05
  owned by somebody else in the group.
• 39:07
  So if you own one of these vehicles from 2014 to 2016, there is a recall
• 39:12
  for over 220, 000 Jeep Cherokees.
• 39:16
  Not Grand Cherokees where there is an issue with the power lift gate.
• 39:21
  There's like a drainage issue.
• 39:22
  It causes a short, the power lift gates might catch on fire.
• 39:25
  The recall states that you should park your car outdoors away from your home.
• 39:31
  But the recall is when the vehicle gets wet, it might short and catch on fire.
• 39:35
  So wouldn't it be smart to keep it inside where it's dry?
• 39:39
  I was a little confused on the resolution here.
• 39:42
  If you are out driving it in the rain, and then you came home and parked it in your
• 39:46
  garage, you probably shouldn't do that.
• 39:48
  Yes, just let it burn to the ground.
• 39:50
  I mean, it is a regular Cherokee.
• 39:52
  Maybe you shouldn't be driving it in the rain at all, because couldn't
• 39:55
  it spark and catch on fire while you're doing 70 down the road?
• 39:58
  That'd be cool.
• 39:59
  This is part of a long list of terrible recalls by Stellantis
• 40:03
  customer service right now.
• 40:04
  Kid you not, I have a series of them for the Pacifica.
• 40:07
  And the very first one is like, there's a problem with the transmission.
• 40:11
  Like that's all it said.
• 40:12
  He's just like, don't call us, we'll call you.
• 40:15
  I mean, that's like literally just the email.
• 40:18
  I have it taped to the fridge in the garage.
• 40:22
  I kid you not.
• 40:22
  And I look at it and I laugh.
• 40:23
  It's right next to the recall.
• 40:25
  I continue to get.
• 40:26
  For a 2000 Audi TT for the airbags, which, you know, I want to take the race car to
• 40:30
  the dealership and see what they think.
• 40:32
  I love these recalls, right?
• 40:34
  And then there was another one that came after it and it said, okay,
• 40:36
  we've identified that the transmission may fail and the car will just
• 40:40
  stop operating without warning.
• 40:42
  There will be no symptoms.
• 40:43
  I'm like, okay.
• 40:44
  And I'm looking for the resolution.
• 40:46
  Like, what are you supposed to do?
• 40:47
  And there's no resolution for them to call again.
• 40:50
  It's we will call you, right?
• 40:52
  Well, our people will call your people, but it doesn't say
• 40:55
  don't stop driving your car.
• 40:57
  It's just like, you know, your transmission just might stop working.
• 41:00
  Like, Oh, okay.
• 41:01
  That's cool.
• 41:02
  So we got the third one.
• 41:03
  And then it finally says nothing more than the previous two said, other than call us.
• 41:08
  To discuss your vehicle.
• 41:10
  So they've written us three times and my wife is like, isn't this the
• 41:14
  problem we already had where they replaced it like a while ago, because
• 41:17
  we did have an issue where it just suddenly bricked itself and Chrysler
• 41:22
  swooped in and they changed the trans.
• 41:24
  They actually put an upgraded transit and all this other kind of stuff.
• 41:26
  And it was all under warranty and it was great.
• 41:28
  So I'm wondering if we were on the front end of that particular recall,
• 41:31
  the absurdity to put that paranoia in any minute now, my car might just die.
• 41:37
  70 miles an hour on the highway, right?
• 41:39
  I mean, that's just insane.
• 41:40
  You know, I want to go back to your recall for the TT.
• 41:44
  I wholeheartedly think you should load it up on the trailer and take
• 41:47
  it down to the Audi dealer and say, yes, I've got a recall for airbags.
• 41:51
  I need new airbags.
• 41:53
  Can you please put them in my car?
• 41:54
  The best would be to hand them the airbag controller and the steering wheel.
• 41:59
  Yes.
• 42:02
  They're not attached to the car at all.
• 42:04
  Yes.
• 42:05
  Oh, that'd be great.
• 42:07
  Now that we've dipped our toe into our domestic news, let's continue
• 42:10
  on with the rest of Ford and GM brought to us by AmericanMuscle.
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• 42:18
  your Stellantis GM or Ford product.
• 42:21
  First one is the Ford F 150 Lightning, their EV electric pickup
• 42:27
  truck, catching fire at Dearborn.
• 42:30
  So actually three of them, I guess, were in the lot.
• 42:34
  There was some issue with battery cells, and they, I guess, spontaneously combusted
• 42:38
  because there was nobody in them.
• 42:39
  They might have been on chargers.
• 42:41
  Maybe they were actively being charged, and obviously if there was
• 42:44
  a problem with a cell, created a reaction, set it on fire, etc, etc.
• 42:48
  I found it funny, the responding officers, quote, were not putting this effort out.
• 42:54
  To look at it, they have to put like a whole effing lake on it to put them out.
• 43:02
  So it went full Chernobyl is what you're saying.
• 43:04
  All three of them pretty melted down from the photos.
• 43:08
  I mean, they're not completely down to like just nothing as we've seen.
• 43:12
  Some other EVs like some Teslas.
• 43:14
  There's been photos of that before.
• 43:16
  Like, I think they caught them in time.
• 43:18
  Did they confirm that all three of them spontaneously combusted or
• 43:21
  just one did and got the other two?
• 43:24
  Oh, chain reaction.
• 43:25
  I'm saying that.
• 43:26
  Because it looks like the one in the middle is significantly more damage.
• 43:30
  I'm wondering if That's the one, but then the left side of the one
• 43:34
  on the right is destroyed too.
• 43:36
  It's like the right most truck, the left side of it is more destroyed
• 43:40
  maybe than the side next to them.
• 43:42
  Yeah.
• 43:42
  So who knows?
• 43:43
  Yeah, it does look like they were charging too.
• 43:45
  It does look like they were charging.
• 43:47
  All it says is that they traced it back to a battery cell production issue.
• 43:51
  You made an astute observation there, Bradley, since you have
• 43:54
  your Indiana Jones hat on as well.
• 43:56
  You're looking for things here.
• 43:57
  You found a clue and this is something I've been thinking about for a while.
• 44:00
  So imagine you're at Sheetz or Target, Walmart, and they have Tesla
• 44:05
  chargers or they have whatever charges available and you're in a row of cars
• 44:09
  and maybe you go about your business and something like this happens.
• 44:12
  And the truck next to you melts to the ground in a pile of goo.
• 44:16
  Is it going to create a chain reaction with all the other
• 44:18
  EVs that are there charging?
• 44:20
  Technically, if the flames or the heat alone, yeah, that's a huge risk on any
• 44:27
  lithium battery, whether it's your cell phone or your laptop or whatever it is.
• 44:32
  You do not want to expose them to extreme heat or any sort of fire because you can
• 44:37
  fuck them up and then bad things happen.
• 44:41
  What happens?
• 44:42
  You can compromise them, right?
• 44:43
  And then they'll go off on their own.
• 44:46
  When a vehicle is charging and it explodes, it catches fire like
• 44:49
  this and you spontaneously combust.
• 44:52
  Does it do anything to the system that it's connected to?
• 44:54
  Does it send some sort of overload or something back through the system that
• 44:59
  could affect other vehicles that might?
• 45:01
  Be on the system as well.
• 45:03
  I hadn't even thought about that.
• 45:04
  And you're right.
• 45:05
  There's some sort of feedback.
• 45:06
  You know, maybe those systems have an emergency cut off.
• 45:09
  I would assume they've designed them because you can do that right in the,
• 45:13
  if you want to call it circuitry for probably lack of proper technical terms.
• 45:17
  Yeah.
• 45:17
  But when the circuitry is melting.
• 45:19
  They designed the cars to not spontaneous combust, too, but they still do that.
• 45:22
  You'll have blown some other capacitor in that circuit, right?
• 45:25
  So when you're charging anything, you can have a reverse signal where it
• 45:29
  faults and then will stop the flow into whatever it's trying to charge.
• 45:34
  It reaches a certain voltage and just shuts off or something like that, maybe.
• 45:37
  The article makes it sound like the growing risk of...
• 45:40
  of EVs and fire, right?
• 45:43
  And what we don't know is, and what other people will counter argue, is that
• 45:46
  plenty of ICE engines do catch on fire.
• 45:49
  You'll see them on the side of the road burnt down the same way as an EV.
• 45:52
  Of the vehicles on the road, what percentage of those are catching
• 45:56
  fire versus what percentage of EVs on the road are catching fire?
• 45:59
  I don't know what those numbers are.
• 46:01
  Are they higher in EVs?
• 46:02
  Are they less?
• 46:03
  Like if you normalize them together, which one has the higher risk?
• 46:06
  The bigger problem isn't any of them catching on fire.
• 46:10
  The bigger problem is it's really easy to put out an ice engine fire.
• 46:13
  You put the fire hose on it and you're done.
• 46:16
  The lithium battery fire is much more difficult to put out.
• 46:19
  Not all the fire people are trained and they don't have the proper foam
• 46:23
  or whatever other chemicals that they need beyond water to put them out.
• 46:26
  And my other concern with EVs would be what is all that doing to the
• 46:29
  environment if you're dousing all that foam and stuff and then it's leaching
• 46:33
  into your groundwater, into your drinking water and all that stuff.
• 46:36
  There's other ramifications.
• 46:37
  Is it like environmentally friendly foam?
• 46:39
  No, it's nasty stuff like halon and other things.
• 46:42
  In response to your ice engine cars on the side of the road, burning down.
• 46:46
  And I say, yes, I've seen that too, but have you paid close attention to those
• 46:50
  cars that are burning on the shoulder?
• 46:52
  They sort of deserved it.
• 46:56
  We can take Daniel's square body as case in point.
• 46:58
  We have video of that, by the way, if anybody wants to see it
• 47:01
  available free on our YouTube.
• 47:02
  Hit us up on discord.
• 47:03
  Speaking of General Motors.
• 47:05
  They're taking a step into 2015.
• 47:08
  They just hired an Apple executive to head up their new software division.
• 47:13
  I'm not an IT person, so I could care less.
• 47:15
  Yeah, same.
• 47:15
  It's sort of like when the Apple guy was waving the flag at that
• 47:18
  race and nobody knew who he was.
• 47:20
  Oh, is the point of this to show how General Motors is still
• 47:23
  constantly behind the times?
• 47:26
  I think so.
• 47:27
  Right.
• 47:28
  It would have been funnier if they had said that they had hired
• 47:30
  somebody from like BlackBerry.
• 47:32
  Like, yeah, bulldoze their cotton.
• 47:34
  Nokia executive hired by General Motors.
• 47:37
  Like, all right, you got a vision of the future.
• 47:41
  Again, lost and found all this stuff coming to the surface.
• 47:45
  Again, in the line of General Motors, over the last couple of years, we've
• 47:50
  talked about all the extensive issues.
• 47:52
  And recalls with the C8, some are funny, some not so much that, you know, need to
• 47:57
  be taken care of right away, especially if I'm an early C8, stuff like that.
• 48:00
  But now, as we've mentioned before, a lot of tracks are sort
• 48:04
  of bipolar on where they stand in terms of allowing EVs on track.
• 48:10
  Last month, I believe it was, we talked about how Summit Point has put out because
• 48:14
  of new insurance and things like that.
• 48:16
  No EVs.
• 48:17
  On the track of any kind, it doesn't matter who they're made by now.
• 48:21
  That doesn't mean you can't go as a spectator and be in the paddock and things
• 48:24
  like that, but you're not going to run your Tesla at some point on the track.
• 48:27
  You know, things like that.
• 48:28
  A lot more racetracks are taking that stance.
• 48:32
  And what's the hottest car on the market right now with an electric hybrid that
• 48:36
  everybody probably wants to take to their next hooked on driving event.
• 48:39
  Tracks are saying no way.
• 48:41
  To the E ray.
• 48:42
  Oh, well, it's like the NSX in a lot of ways, as we've joked about in the past.
• 48:47
  It's such a small hybrid.
• 48:49
  I sort of feel like the Corvette didn't need this.
• 48:52
  This article specifically touches on events sanctioned by the
• 48:57
  National Council of Corvette Clubs.
• 49:00
  They're the ones banning the E rate.
• 49:02
  You know, I'm not that big of an EV fan to begin with, but I feel like
• 49:06
  this is more of a political move to show their dislike for the fact that
• 49:11
  Corvette has gone E more than they want to just ban it because it's an EV.
• 49:17
  Are you saying this is a OK Boomer moment?
• 49:21
  Yes, in addition to the things you've already stated, like the cost
• 49:24
  of insurance and stuff like that, these people are running DEs and
• 49:28
  club racing and things like that.
• 49:29
  Yes, those costs go up, but my spidey senses are tingling and I feel like this
• 49:35
  is a political move for some reason.
• 49:37
  I don't know why.
• 49:38
  I'm just, my, my cynicism is getting the better of me.
• 49:40
  But haven't other Organizations also said no EVs on track.
• 49:45
  I don't know that organizations specifically have, but some
• 49:48
  racetracks specifically have.
• 49:49
  That's correct.
• 49:50
  But when, but when I saw this was events sanctioned by the National Council of
• 49:55
  Corvette Clubs, it kind of Triggered.
• 49:58
  I'm triggered.
• 49:59
  I feel triggered.
• 50:00
  Well, I don't know what to think about it.
• 50:02
  You know, I have said before that I think the C8 was a step away from the
• 50:08
  classic Corvette owner and no offense.
• 50:10
  We have plenty of friends in the Corvette club.
• 50:12
  We love Corvettes.
• 50:13
  I love going to NCM and coaching Corvettes and things like that.
• 50:16
  I still have yet to coach in a C8 that's coming.
• 50:19
  I think it's a step away from.
• 50:22
  What people are used to, and I think people are still trying to adjust
• 50:25
  to that, like anything else, there's early adopters, but if you look at
• 50:28
  the crowd of people that are buying Corvettes right now, the C8s, it's
• 50:33
  going to be younger folks, right?
• 50:34
  People that want that American NSX, or they want that, it's, it's like a Ferrari
• 50:39
  or like a Lambo, but it's got an LS under the hood, you know, kind of thing.
• 50:44
  Mid engine is a step in the right direction for Corvette.
• 50:47
  They've tried several times over the years, if we look at it historically,
• 50:51
  you know, there's been a lot of failed attempts at a mid engine
• 50:53
  Corvette and they finally did it.
• 50:55
  It may be a day late and a dollar short in some respects.
• 50:57
  I mean, would we be having the same discussion today if they had
• 51:01
  done it when they brought out the C5, kind of stepping away from the
• 51:04
  C4 instead of waiting until now?
• 51:06
  Who knows, right?
• 51:07
  We don't know.
• 51:08
  But.
• 51:08
  People are sometimes hesitant to change, reluctant to change.
• 51:11
  This is a microcosm of that versus let's say the greater EV discussion
• 51:15
  where people are still grappling with range anxiety and other issues
• 51:18
  and things that we're talking about.
• 51:19
  I mean, the fire is a real concern.
• 51:21
  This stinks a little bit.
• 51:23
  It's a little petty unless the track says, no, who cares?
• 51:27
  Or if your insurance company says no, right.
• 51:29
  But if the insurance company says we will allow it for X amount of
• 51:33
  dollars, then you increase your registration costs to cover it.
• 51:36
  Or you charge the people that want to bring in EV a little bit more money.
• 51:39
  If the E Ray is probably heavier than the stock C8 because of everything
• 51:44
  else it has to carry with it, yes, it's making more power, but let's say
• 51:47
  they left the brakes alone and it's anything like Andrew's C8 was, and
• 51:51
  it chews up the brakes and suddenly you've got nothing going into turn one
• 51:55
  at summit point at 150 miles an hour.
• 51:57
  The ramifications of that wreck, to Tanya's point from earlier, are
• 52:02
  you equipped to handle the battery fire and everything else that's
• 52:05
  going to come from that, right?
• 52:06
  So that's a scary reality.
• 52:08
  What about you as the driver?
• 52:10
  That lithium fire that they can't put out quickly, that's burning
• 52:14
  hotter, likely, than if your gas car had caught your fire suit.
• 52:19
  Probably isn't rated for lithium ion battery fire.
• 52:22
  Yeah, it's useless.
• 52:23
  So we'll have to have a conversation with our resident safety clothing
• 52:28
  and apparel company to see if there's any developments on changing the
• 52:33
  technology behind race suits to see if they're going to make something.
• 52:36
  And there might be, since don't they have Formula E, so those guys might
• 52:40
  have special million dollar race suits, but is that trickling down to OG?
• 52:45
  How many fires have there been at a Formula E event since
• 52:50
  the race series has started?
• 52:53
  If they do happen, it's not publicized very often.
• 52:57
  Although I don't know how much of Formula E is publicized.
• 53:00
  I don't know.
• 53:00
  I never hear anything about it and I don't follow it, so.
• 53:03
  You know, we talk about EVs and that they spontaneously
• 53:06
  combust and everything like that.
• 53:07
  Does it ever happen when they're moving or is it only when
• 53:10
  they're stationary and shut off?
• 53:12
  A lot of the ones that I've reported seem to be like randomly parked in
• 53:16
  garages and stuff, but I don't know.
• 53:19
  Which ones were moving, obviously, when they've suddenly stopped moving,
• 53:22
  there have been problems, fires.
• 53:26
  They once were moving and abruptly stopped.
• 53:28
  Isn't that what Clarkson said would always get you?
• 53:30
  It's that sudden stop.
• 53:31
  Yeah.
• 53:31
  It's not the speed that gets you.
• 53:33
  It's that stopping.
• 53:34
  Speaking of the Chevrolet Corvette E Ray, the first electrified Chevrolet
• 53:40
  Corvette E Ray just sold for over one.
• 53:44
  1, 000, 000.
• 53:46
  Did it come with lasers?
• 53:47
  You mean for the windshield wipers?
• 53:49
  Yes.
• 53:50
  A million bucks for a Corvette, really?
• 53:52
  I don't know what to say.
• 53:53
  Somebody with money that that was like 1, 000 to them.
• 53:57
  Rick Hendrick, C8 Corvette NASCAR team owner.
• 54:00
  Oh, Hendrick Motorsports.
• 54:02
  Yeah.
• 54:02
  Okay.
• 54:02
  Well.
• 54:03
  Oh, okay.
• 54:03
  Yeah.
• 54:03
  So it was like 1, 000.
• 54:04
  Yeah.
• 54:04
  He prints money.
• 54:05
  I mean, come on.
• 54:07
  Good for him.
• 54:07
  He can say he had the first one, right?
• 54:09
  And it's a Hendrick Corvette or whatever, blah, blah, blah, but a million bucks.
• 54:12
  I mean, it's still an expensive car at 150 grand or whatever it is.
• 54:18
  If that ain't enough, sounds like Audi's not going to be the only one
• 54:22
  bringing power plants to Formula One.
• 54:24
  Nope.
• 54:24
  General Motors.
• 54:26
  Supposedly Chevy is going to join up with Andretti if they get their formula team.
• 54:32
  So will this be the turbocharged HHR?
• 54:35
  Four cylinder or will this be a big ol thumpin LS?
• 54:39
  It'll probably be closer to the four cylinder turbo.
• 54:42
  But will it be a Chevy power plant or a Cadillac power plant?
• 54:45
  Cause Cadillac seems to be at the front end of racing for GM right now.
• 54:48
  I mean, it'll be Cadillac.
• 54:49
  They're so strong in the other racing.
• 54:52
  Course it's going to be.
• 54:53
  Cadillac is GM's racing division.
• 54:55
  Apparently it'd be one thing.
• 54:57
  If this was the old days of formula one, where you could bring anything to the
• 55:00
  party, four cylinder turbo V8 V10 flat 12, like Ferrari used to have in the
• 55:05
  eighties, you know, stuff like that.
• 55:06
  Yes.
• 55:07
  If they could pick up a Chevy V8 out of an IndyCar and say, yeah, we got
• 55:11
  a power plant for days because they can get those like a dime a dozen and
• 55:14
  drop it into a formula one chassis.
• 55:17
  Sure.
• 55:17
  They got to engineer this from scratch.
• 55:19
  Maybe the quad four is the answer, right?
• 55:21
  We know it can make in a billion horsepower and a cobalt and an HHR.
• 55:24
  So maybe that's the pedigree of the future General Motors Formula One.
• 55:28
  It's not going to be a Northstar motor?
• 55:30
  No, definitely not.
• 55:31
  No cylinder deactivation.
• 55:33
  Trash.
• 55:34
  Moving on to JDM and Asian car news.
• 55:38
  Toyota, again, the hotness.
• 55:42
  Says hybrid and a man in the Supra.
• 55:46
  Can you believe it?
• 55:47
  Go for it.
• 55:48
  Damn, right.
• 55:49
  It's about time Make that money, but is it about time or is this just old news?
• 55:55
  Because Honda did this with the CR Z.
• 55:58
  It was the first manual hybrid, if you check the history books there.
• 56:02
  I'm sure there must be differences in how the clutch works too between them.
• 56:07
  Toyota's got a plan to bring a hybrid to the manuals.
• 56:11
  Or the manuals to the hybrids.
• 56:13
  This is interesting.
• 56:14
  I want to stay on top of this story.
• 56:15
  I want to see where this goes.
• 56:17
  Would be really curious to drive one for sure.
• 56:20
  I can see this partnering probably with the small motor, the four cylinder turbo
• 56:24
  that they already had with the manual.
• 56:26
  So it's kind of the next logical conclusion to do that.
• 56:28
  I like the fact that.
• 56:30
  If they go in that direction, it's another step away from BMW for the
• 56:36
  Supra Toyota sort of making the SRA its own, even though it's still
• 56:40
  gonna have the Z four chassis.
• 56:41
  Next up, the Supra will be a station wagon, just like the Z four touring
• 56:45
  goop or whatever they're calling it.
• 56:46
  But hey, you know, we'll, we'll leave that where it is.
• 56:48
  Good for Toyota, again, the hotness, they are pushing the
• 56:51
  boundaries of what is possible.
• 56:53
  So in other Toyota news, apparently they've gotten the green light from
• 56:57
  the state of California to begin selling hydrogen electric semi
• 57:02
  truck powertrains in an attempt to push those trucks away from diesel.
• 57:07
  That's scary stuff for Tesla there, isn't it?
• 57:10
  I think it's a great idea.
• 57:12
  When is that electric semi coming again?
• 57:14
  It already came and then it got like towed or something.
• 57:16
  I remember seeing something recently, like they got delivered.
• 57:19
  Who took the first orders?
• 57:20
  Was it like Pepsi or something?
• 57:22
  It like broke down immediately.
• 57:25
  Wow.
• 57:25
  The first load they put on it.
• 57:27
  Did it get towed by a diesel?
• 57:28
  That's the best.
• 57:29
  I don't remember like what the.
• 57:32
  Failure was, was unfortunately broken down on the side of the
• 57:34
  road pretty soon after receipt.
• 57:36
  And they received a letter from Tesla that said, don't call us.
• 57:39
  We'll call you, but Hey, they got no issues.
• 57:41
  You know, what's great about this article is it's actually a little bit
• 57:44
  of foreshadowing for one of our guests that we had on, we had Carrie Weishar
• 57:48
  on here who actually works for Pactar and some other places where they do.
• 57:54
  Testing for semis, she's been in the business for a long time.
• 57:57
  She's worked for Peterbilt and some other big semi companies.
• 58:00
  And she actually talked about what the future of semis looks like and some
• 58:04
  of the hybrids and things like that.
• 58:05
  And her episode is actually available right now for pre release on her website.
• 58:09
  And that's trophy girl designs.
• 58:12
  So you can go check it out over there and listen to some really interesting
• 58:15
  information about the semi industry and also her adventure going to the
• 58:20
  top of Pike's Peak in a racing semi.
• 58:23
  Really cool episode to check out.
• 58:24
  Nod to Mountain Man Dan for co hosting that episode with me.
• 58:28
  You know, really excited to kind of keep the pulse on what's going
• 58:30
  on in the big truck world as well.
• 58:33
  Just remember that.
• 58:34
  Tesla's not the only one making changes out there.
• 58:37
  If you're a Canadian, beware, you could accidentally buy a Hyundai Ioniq 5
• 58:44
  Essential, which actually, you can't accidentally buy them anymore because
• 58:48
  only 30 units were Made and sold in 2022.
• 58:53
  If you did accidentally buy one of these and you haven't realized it
• 58:56
  yet, you cannot fast charge on them.
• 59:00
  Apparently, essential means basic, basic, basic.
• 59:04
  So I don't know if it takes like nine years to charge.
• 59:07
  It was like five hours.
• 59:09
  These essential units were actually just like compliance models.
• 59:13
  So I'm not sure why they were even sold.
• 59:16
  Like, why would Hyundai do that?
• 59:17
  It doesn't make sense.
• 59:18
  Like, we're going to give you something that takes a week to charge.
• 59:21
  It's unfortunate to spend 40 plus grand on something and then get it
• 59:25
  home and then realize I don't even think it's retrofitable to the fast
• 59:30
  charging system for whatever reason.
• 59:32
  Hyundai should just send all those people new cars and then
• 59:35
  flatbed the old ones out of there.
• 59:37
  That's just sad.
• 59:39
  I have to say, you know, we talked earlier in our showcase about hot family cars.
• 59:44
  If it's good enough for John Cena, it might be good enough for the rest of us.
• 59:48
  Would you like to guess what his daily driver is?
• 59:50
  2014 Dodge Dart.
• 59:53
  Oh, you wish he did.
• 59:54
  No, I know it's a Honda Civic.
• 59:55
  2020 Civic Type R with a manual.
• 59:58
  And he's on an interview.
• 59:59
  I guess he's on a podcast or something.
• 1:00:01
  And it's a short little moment that they clipped out of it.
• 1:00:04
  And it's actually a riot.
• 1:00:05
  He compares it to, I guess he owns a Countach as well.
• 1:00:08
  And just why the Countach is just complete garbage and the Honda is reliable.
• 1:00:12
  It gets in it.
• 1:00:13
  It'll do 140 miles.
• 1:00:14
  Blah, blah, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, all this kind of stuff.
• 1:00:16
  And I was just like, you know what?
• 1:00:18
  Respect props.
• 1:00:20
  Good for you, John Cena.
• 1:00:21
  promised earlier that we were going to find a tie to Brad's new Plyber
• 1:00:26
  truck to a new concept and EV car that Tanya is going to tell us about.
• 1:00:30
  And what's the relationship between those two?
• 1:00:32
  All star with no glass.
• 1:00:35
  The Plyber truck you couldn't see out the back of.
• 1:00:37
  It had no rear glass.
• 1:00:38
  So, does that mean it's got a camera?
• 1:00:40
  That's the thing with the Polestar, their new SUV, that they're claiming
• 1:00:44
  is gonna have no back window, is because it has 900 cameras on it.
• 1:00:47
  I'm exaggerating, but I'm assuming.
• 1:00:49
  Like, a lot of cars have the backup camera, so when you're in reverse
• 1:00:52
  and you go, Well, wait a second, I don't back up down the road.
• 1:00:55
  I still need to look out the back glass, which nobody does.
• 1:00:57
  So, I mean, why do you need a rear glass?
• 1:00:59
  They'll have the integrated camera in the rearview mirror, so you'd still have
• 1:01:03
  a rearview mirror, and when you look in it, you'll be seeing what's behind you
• 1:01:07
  without seeing what's behind you, which I guess is great till that stops working.
• 1:01:11
  But again, nobody uses their mirrors anyway, so it really doesn't matter why.
• 1:01:15
  You don't need the glass.
• 1:01:16
  You don't need the mirror.
• 1:01:17
  I was about to say, why is this news?
• 1:01:19
  Contractors and painters have been driving vans without rear glass for decades.
• 1:01:24
  Why is this news?
• 1:01:26
  That's great point.
• 1:01:27
  Although you're right.
• 1:01:28
  A hundred percent.
• 1:01:29
  This is race car technology.
• 1:01:31
  If you follow sports and endurance racing, they don't have rearview mirrors either.
• 1:01:35
  They use those onboard TVs with cameras facing out the back.
• 1:01:39
  You can't see out the back of the Ferrari 296 or the Huracan or any of those cars,
• 1:01:45
  especially with the roll cages and all the other stuff they have to have and
• 1:01:48
  onboard cameras for TV and all that stuff.
• 1:01:50
  So they've got cameras out the back and that's how they see
• 1:01:53
  who's coming up behind them.
• 1:01:53
  They've been doing that for years.
• 1:01:55
  I find this interesting in the sense that race car technology
• 1:01:58
  is finding its way to the street.
• 1:02:00
  Isn't that how it always works though?
• 1:02:01
  Doesn't it start in motorsport and then eventually, I mean for most, for
• 1:02:05
  some things it starts in motorsport and then trickles down to civilian life.
• 1:02:09
  I've driven a car with this technology, Andrew's C8.
• 1:02:13
  And I absolutely hated it.
• 1:02:15
  It was terrible.
• 1:02:16
  And I would never use it if I had the option.
• 1:02:18
  I would rather drive with not being able to see and just use my side
• 1:02:22
  mirrors than to use that crap.
• 1:02:24
  Here's a name that we haven't heard in a while.
• 1:02:26
  Sob.
• 1:02:28
  Sob?
• 1:02:28
  Ooh.
• 1:02:29
  Born from jets.
• 1:02:31
  Apparently, I guess, the company that they became or bought them,
• 1:02:35
  which there's like 20 people left in it, has been working on a new sob.
• 1:02:43
  For quite some time now, and they're alleging the, what
• 1:02:47
  they're calling the Emily GT.
• 1:02:48
  Saab 90, 000.
• 1:02:50
  Nevs Emily GT, because Nevs is the name of whatever this company is that
• 1:02:55
  owns Saab now, or at least the name.
• 1:02:57
  They've been working on their own EV that is claiming 600 miles of range.
• 1:03:04
  484 horsepower with honest to goodness torque vectoring, and even a performance
• 1:03:09
  variant that'll get you 653 horsepower.
• 1:03:13
  I really like the front.
• 1:03:14
  It looks like another car.
• 1:03:16
  The front looks like a Camaro.
• 1:03:17
  The back, whatever.
• 1:03:19
  These little spy photos that are like...
• 1:03:21
  taken in a dark alley closet with no lighting are really hard to this is like
• 1:03:26
  when DeLorean reimagined did that whole thing and we counted it down and all you
• 1:03:30
  saw was one third of the quarter panel.
• 1:03:33
  Yeah, this is the same thing.
• 1:03:35
  This is annoying.
• 1:03:36
  It's old now, but the interior Is where I'm stuck and I'm confused and I'm
• 1:03:42
  not sure the hole in the back of the seat for like, if this was your family
• 1:03:47
  car, your child to be like kicking you in the back of the head through
• 1:03:50
  that hole, throwing Cheerios at you.
• 1:03:54
  Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Are those for a massage parlor?
• 1:03:56
  Are you supposed to put your face through that hole?
• 1:03:58
  Like, I don't understand.
• 1:04:00
  It looks like a dentist's office inside of this car.
• 1:04:03
  You read the.
• 1:04:04
  Comments below and people are like, Oh my God, that interior is so gorgeous, bleh!
• 1:04:09
  And I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 1:04:13
  Sob people are weird anyway, so it fits the sob brand.
• 1:04:16
  Anybody who likes putting their car key in the floor to start the car, I mean, shit.
• 1:04:22
  I like the color though, this weird, goes back to the C70 Volvo, burnt copper.
• 1:04:27
  That color is having a resurgence and I'm okay with it.
• 1:04:30
  The only thing I like about this car is the front, but it looks like another car.
• 1:04:34
  We talked about semis earlier.
• 1:04:36
  I'm just kind of following along with that since we're talking about EVs.
• 1:04:39
  Diesel vs.
• 1:04:41
  EV.
• 1:04:41
  There was actually a recorded part of a congressional hearing that
• 1:04:44
  you can find as part of a TikTok video that Mountain Man Dan sent us.
• 1:04:49
  What is disclosed, as Brad would say, a dodoy moment, but also a reality of
• 1:04:56
  what's happening in that market space?
• 1:04:59
  Don't look on this guy's face.
• 1:05:01
  I mean, he gets shut down by this congressman.
• 1:05:05
  When he says the words, we're going to pass the cost onto the consumer.
• 1:05:09
  I was immediately like, bruh, we're done.
• 1:05:13
  I was like, damn your face right now.
• 1:05:15
  I didn't think they'd catch that part.
• 1:05:17
  Yeah.
• 1:05:17
  Right.
• 1:05:18
  Just this sheer audacity that some of these.
• 1:05:22
  Corporations have where they're like, pass it on to the consumer.
• 1:05:25
  We'll make it a subscription plan.
• 1:05:26
  Pay to play.
• 1:05:27
  Blah, blah, blah.
• 1:05:29
  It'll all come out in the wash.
• 1:05:30
  It's unfortunate because these new semis that they're proposing are three
• 1:05:34
  times what a standard semi costs.
• 1:05:37
  Not that a standard semi is cheap.
• 1:05:38
  So what's the cost of your Amazon Prime membership going to go up to?
• 1:05:42
  Is it worth all that free shipping now?
• 1:05:46
  The base model EV semis are starting at the high end of the petrol powered
• 1:05:51
  ones and they just go up from there.
• 1:05:54
  Who's going to recoup the cost?
• 1:05:55
  It's going to come on us.
• 1:05:56
  And this is where I get the environmental impact.
• 1:06:00
  Of continuing to run the old trucks, but if the old trucks are still running, can't
• 1:06:05
  we find ways to retrofit things like we've talked about synthetic fuels or whatever
• 1:06:09
  diesel the motor itself isn't necessarily as dirty as the stuff we run through it.
• 1:06:15
  There's arguments to be made.
• 1:06:16
  We've made them before, but there's got to be ways to maybe make some
• 1:06:20
  of those older trucks better.
• 1:06:21
  There's got to be a market there for people to develop parts and it's not.
• 1:06:25
  Yeah.
• 1:06:26
  Passing the cost onto all of us as consumers and making Pepsi
• 1:06:30
  or Amazon or whoever, like we've been talking about, buy all new
• 1:06:33
  trucks at three times their value.
• 1:06:35
  I think it's sad.
• 1:06:36
  And I think more people need to understand what's going on.
• 1:06:39
  Not just those of us that are in the car community, talk to your fellow civilians.
• 1:06:45
  And explain to them in simple terms.
• 1:06:46
  Maybe show them this video, get them to understand what's going
• 1:06:49
  on and what's being discussed.
• 1:06:51
  Sometimes I wish we spent more time watching C SPAN than CBS,
• 1:06:55
  Paramount Prime, get in touch with what's going on behind the scenes.
• 1:06:58
  Well, I don't know if this guy just got ripped off, if it really costs that much.
• 1:07:04
  It's another article from The Drive, that's what it is.
• 1:07:07
  I think we do know that when an EV is involved in an accident, the
• 1:07:13
  repair costs seem to be generally higher than your traditional...
• 1:07:20
  Ice powered vehicle.
• 1:07:22
  Which is why all our insurance rates went up, because they're
• 1:07:24
  passing on the savings.
• 1:07:26
  I love paying for other people's stupidity, but anyway.
• 1:07:29
  So this Rivian owner got rear ended, damaged the rear bumper.
• 1:07:33
  From the picture, actually, it doesn't even look like it's that
• 1:07:35
  badly damaged, but apparently it was 42, 000 worth of repairs.
• 1:07:40
  Where?
• 1:07:40
  Majority of its labor hours, because the shop literally took the
• 1:07:44
  entire rear of the vehicle apart and rebuilt the thing, basically.
• 1:07:48
  Which...
• 1:07:49
  Is part of the, did this guy get scammed or something because there
• 1:07:53
  was another person that said that they were involved in a similar accident and
• 1:07:56
  it cost them less than half of that.
• 1:07:58
  They paid 14, 000.
• 1:08:02
  For a pickup truck, for a rear bumper, they'd be like, I'm gonna go down
• 1:08:05
  to the junkyard and get one for 500.
• 1:08:07
  But for 42, 000, he could have bought any of those cars off our top list.
• 1:08:11
  What was that first list of?
• 1:08:13
  300 horsepower cars, that's right.
• 1:08:15
  300 horsepower cars?
• 1:08:17
  So, Tanya, does this change your mind about the Rivian?
• 1:08:20
  Do you want one still?
• 1:08:21
  I mean, I don't.
• 1:08:22
  I mean, I know you don't want one, but.
• 1:08:24
  Yes, yes.
• 1:08:26
  You like.
• 1:08:27
  But I don't think it's unique to Rivian necessarily because your
• 1:08:31
  Tesla go gets, gets rear ended.
• 1:08:32
  It ain't going to cost you 300 to fix.
• 1:08:36
  It's not going to be Toyota Corolla.
• 1:08:38
  Or Honda repair charges and you'll be out of a car for months, but part of this
• 1:08:43
  could be volume to take to Eric's point.
• 1:08:45
  You know, if one of us is in Iraq, we can go down to the junkyard
• 1:08:48
  and get a replacement part or something because there's so many
• 1:08:51
  more of those vehicles around.
• 1:08:54
  How many are on the road right now?
• 1:08:55
  I mean, I see them all the time, but that's just it.
• 1:08:57
  It's the barrier to entry.
• 1:08:58
  Right?
• 1:08:58
  And so obviously, we're not privy to their profit margins and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:09:03
  But if you're doing the math, 42, 000 for a repair bill,
• 1:09:07
  whether your insurance company is canceling you after that or not.
• 1:09:10
  I'd rather buy an F 150, gas guzzling, EcoBoost, whatever,
• 1:09:16
  than deal with this nonsense.
• 1:09:17
  Because at least if something happens, I can go to Ford, or I can go to the
• 1:09:22
  junkyard, or I can get the part after market, because it is the best selling car
• 1:09:26
  on the planet, even though it's a truck.
• 1:09:28
  But the point is, if Rivian reduced the cost, and it wasn't a 100, 000
• 1:09:33
  pickup, Maybe more people would buy them if it was a 30, 000 pickup,
• 1:09:38
  it'd be something different.
• 1:09:39
  There'd be more volume.
• 1:09:40
  Right?
• 1:09:40
  So they're playing this game and I have seen more Rivians on the
• 1:09:44
  road and I'm starting to actually dislike them in the beginning.
• 1:09:47
  I liked them because they were so niche and so different.
• 1:09:50
  But the more I see them, I'm just like, Oh, Oh, you have an R one T or you have
• 1:09:54
  the R one S I've seen the SUVs too.
• 1:09:56
  And I'm just like, okay, whatever.
• 1:09:59
  And then the fear that it's going to spontaneously combust.
• 1:10:01
  And who's paying for that?
• 1:10:03
  That's not unique to Rivian.
• 1:10:05
  It's not, but it's very expensive.
• 1:10:07
  And is Rivian going to give you a new truck when it burns to the ground?
• 1:10:10
  That's the thing that we haven't heard about these things either.
• 1:10:13
  And again, say in this case, this guy wasn't rear ended, he was
• 1:10:17
  front ended, potentially deadlier accident, but then it burned.
• 1:10:21
  Does it matter besides your hit anymore in EVs when you're sitting on top of it?
• 1:10:25
  In my truck, I sit on top of the fuel tank.
• 1:10:28
  That was any different.
• 1:10:29
  I don't sit on my fuel tank.
• 1:10:31
  No, my passengers sit on my fuel tank.
• 1:10:33
  It's in the back.
• 1:10:34
  Yeah, I mean, it's down the center of the cabin though.
• 1:10:37
  Because generally, when you're rear ended, your gas tank doesn't absorb the impact
• 1:10:44
  and crack open and then a match get lit.
• 1:10:47
  and explode under your ass.
• 1:10:49
  Well, I would like to think that with the electric vehicles, they're
• 1:10:53
  designed to where the battery does not take the impact of an accident.
• 1:10:58
  They should be, but you have to trust that something so temperamental like
• 1:11:03
  a lithium battery cell I wouldn't want to be in an accident in one of them.
• 1:11:07
  Yeah, I don't trust anybody anyway, so well no, but there's a lot more variables
• 1:11:11
  There's a lot more chemistry involved to tanya's point you crack open the battery
• 1:11:15
  like an egg There's other things that are happening You suddenly exposed all
• 1:11:19
  that stuff to oxygen or carbon dioxide or something else or some, you know
• 1:11:22
  moisture something happens It causes a react gasoline It pours on the ground.
• 1:11:28
  Yeah, it's bad, but it evaporates as long as you don't expose it to flame
• 1:11:33
  or spark on a rock or something.
• 1:11:34
  Yeah.
• 1:11:35
  I mean, we've seen that too.
• 1:11:37
  I mean, either has to be at a super high temperature that it auto ignites,
• 1:11:41
  which probably isn't or there needs to be a flame, whether it's coming from
• 1:11:44
  a literal flame or a spark, it's still a flame that creates the combustion.
• 1:11:49
  So.
• 1:11:50
  This is not unique to Rivian.
• 1:11:51
  I don't know if that guy got scammed.
• 1:11:53
  I think he kind of got scammed because it says there are only three certified shops
• 1:11:59
  in his location to work on the Rivian.
• 1:12:01
  So I, I feel like there's some collusion here.
• 1:12:04
  I mean, that doesn't sound absurd because to your earlier point,
• 1:12:07
  they make like three of them.
• 1:12:08
  So there's not volumes.
• 1:12:09
  You're not going to have a dealership on every street corner or service
• 1:12:13
  center that can fix these things.
• 1:12:15
  And if it wasn't a Rivian certified place, it might be Like in the contracting world,
• 1:12:19
  it might be one of those FU numbers.
• 1:12:21
  They threw it out there and they went, okay, well, we got to get it fixed.
• 1:12:24
  So that's what we're going to pay.
• 1:12:25
  And those guys are laughing all the way to the bank because they look
• 1:12:27
  at the complexity of the job and they make the quote really high.
• 1:12:31
  You got no choice, right?
• 1:12:32
  It is what it is.
• 1:12:33
  If it was me, I would have just left the bumper messed
• 1:12:35
  up and pocketed the 40 grand.
• 1:12:37
  That's how you do it with your Ford.
• 1:12:38
  Think I'd want to know that nothing was compromised around the batteries.
• 1:12:42
  But how do you do that without some sort of x ray vision?
• 1:12:45
  But that's why they took the car apart.
• 1:12:46
  Yeah, they took the entire thing apart.
• 1:12:48
  Are they going to have it certified by Rivian that this will not
• 1:12:52
  spontaneously combust as a result of this accident and the work that was done?
• 1:12:55
  It is under warranty.
• 1:12:57
  Who's taking the liability for this?
• 1:12:59
  Pass on the consumer, we already established that.
• 1:13:02
  Cause this brings me to, I used to watch the TV show Gas Monkey Garage,
• 1:13:07
  and they took on the challenge of rebuilding a totaled Ferrari F40.
• 1:13:13
  They went through so much painstaking work, and they even had to have
• 1:13:17
  the chassis recertified by Ferrari.
• 1:13:20
  Before they could sell it for the, you know, the amount of money
• 1:13:23
  they were trying to sell it for.
• 1:13:24
  I'm wondering if something similar has to happen with this, like if the shop
• 1:13:29
  is going to certify or Rivian is going to certify, yes, that the vehicle is
• 1:13:32
  sound now, because somebody is going to take on the liability for if this
• 1:13:36
  thing actually does blow up or still compromised, who's signing off on
• 1:13:40
  this saying, yeah, it's good to go.
• 1:13:42
  I'll just say this.
• 1:13:43
  Cause I saw a 2006 ish Tahoe Z71, like we were talking about earlier,
• 1:13:49
  going down the road the other day.
• 1:13:51
  And I, and by going down the road, I mean, almost sideways.
• 1:13:53
  Cause it was that severe crab walk.
• 1:13:55
  Cause the frame was bent.
• 1:13:56
  If you see a Rivian doing that, just pull over, just stop driving and wait for the
• 1:14:02
  mushroom cloud, because that is not good.
• 1:14:07
  And that's just it.
• 1:14:08
  That's the other thing that I worry about is when you buy a truck, I mean,
• 1:14:11
  we're not talking square bodies here, although they are still on the road,
• 1:14:14
  but a lot of people do keep their trucks for a very, very long time.
• 1:14:17
  And trucks are used and abused.
• 1:14:20
  And these Rivians, where will they be 10 years from now, 20 years from now?
• 1:14:24
  Will they even be?
• 1:14:25
  And that's What goes back to my point of we've made them so expensive, so
• 1:14:30
  expensive to repair, and it's not like it's something collectible.
• 1:14:34
  It's a pickup truck.
• 1:14:35
  Are there going to have to be special junkyards for these electric vehicles?
• 1:14:39
  Hazmat facilities.
• 1:14:41
  Decommissioned?
• 1:14:41
  It has to be.
• 1:14:42
  Are they going to go back to the manufacturer to recycle the parts?
• 1:14:45
  That's the talk from Volkswagen and other people that there's
• 1:14:48
  a whole recycling process.
• 1:14:50
  But nobody's actually gone through those steps yet.
• 1:14:53
  Everything's still so new.
• 1:14:55
  There's nothing to recycle.
• 1:14:56
  And I find it sort of like the same game they play with recycling a cell
• 1:15:00
  phone and some of the other electronics.
• 1:15:02
  Like you take it to those places and they end up just dumping it.
• 1:15:05
  Goes in a hole somewhere.
• 1:15:06
  It's like, you didn't really recycle anything.
• 1:15:09
  I don't see it.
• 1:15:10
  We would be remiss not to talk about Tesla.
• 1:15:14
  Oh, what's going on in Elon's kingdom this month?
• 1:15:18
  Tesla's new car making process, it's going to be revolutionary and all this stuff and
• 1:15:23
  honestly, I guess you'd have to go back and go to their investors day and find out
• 1:15:27
  the details of what was revealed because this article really doesn't explain
• 1:15:30
  anything other than some sort of different modular Construction and like, you'll have
• 1:15:36
  all finished parts done elsewhere that then get put together later, like, okay.
• 1:15:41
  Since we're talking about things historical, this actually
• 1:15:44
  harkens back to the 80s.
• 1:15:46
  It reminds me a lot of how the DMC 12 was built.
• 1:15:50
  All the body panels, everything were built off the car and
• 1:15:52
  then it was assembled later.
• 1:15:54
  But granted they weren't dealing with paint booths and painting and color
• 1:15:57
  matching and that whole process, they were stamping out stainless steel components
• 1:16:00
  and then assembling the car later.
• 1:16:03
  I've heard rumor that Musk is a big fan of some of the earlier generation
• 1:16:08
  entrepreneurs like DeLorean and Iacocca and others, and he's kind of stealing
• 1:16:12
  from their playbooks in some respects.
• 1:16:15
  We've built cars for a long time the same way because of the trial and error in the
• 1:16:22
  other processes that obviously failed, and we build cars a lot with robots,
• 1:16:27
  which are very fast and consistent.
• 1:16:29
  Why deviate from that?
• 1:16:31
  If you're not building a custom coachwork or some sort of hand built car, why go
• 1:16:35
  through this process of some guys on a Monday morning pumps out 1400 left
• 1:16:41
  front red fenders, and then next week when the temperature is different,
• 1:16:45
  he does the rear quarter panel.
• 1:16:47
  Another question is whether Tesla can produce multiple vehicle
• 1:16:49
  models of different sizes and body styles on the same production
• 1:16:53
  line with the unboxed system.
• 1:16:55
  What does that even mean?
• 1:16:56
  So you're going to have like a three coming down with a Y behind it with
• 1:16:59
  another three within an X within a roadster and somehow like you're
• 1:17:03
  assembling them all in the end.
• 1:17:06
  It's one thing if it was like all the same base platform and then like I'm
• 1:17:09
  sticking different body panels on it, but.
• 1:17:12
  They're not.
• 1:17:12
  Yeah, more like the MQ chassis Volkswagen, where it's like, well, a
• 1:17:17
  Golf's coming down and then a Jetta and then a TT and then whatever else.
• 1:17:21
  Maybe they are, and I don't realize it.
• 1:17:22
  I don't know.
• 1:17:23
  Maybe a Model Y chassis is exactly the same as a Model 3.
• 1:17:26
  I have a feeling they're very similar.
• 1:17:28
  If I'm reading this correctly, it looks like they're getting rid of the
• 1:17:30
  assembly line process, and they're probably literally going to just take
• 1:17:35
  Stuff out of a box and put it together.
• 1:17:38
  What does that mean?
• 1:17:39
  Like I just opened my Lego box and now I'm going to sit here and put
• 1:17:42
  all my parts together and then I'm going to open my next Lego box.
• 1:17:44
  How is that more efficient?
• 1:17:45
  This is Elon Musk.
• 1:17:46
  That's exactly what it means.
• 1:17:48
  How is that more efficient than an assembly line dedicated to a Model 3,
• 1:17:52
  to a I guess because you don't have to have separate assembly lines for each.
• 1:17:57
  You know, what it's going to require is less vacation and more work.
• 1:18:01
  You're definitely not going to be able to work from home.
• 1:18:02
  And Elon has thoughts on that as he tries to take over the world.
• 1:18:06
  He has lots of thoughts.
• 1:18:08
  He's the smartest moron I've ever seen.
• 1:18:09
  He's a tool.
• 1:18:11
  He's a 10 millimeter socket.
• 1:18:13
  Don't offend the 10 millimeter socket like that.
• 1:18:15
  Well, most of them are lost as well.
• 1:18:17
  Why can't we lose this one?
• 1:18:18
  Yeah, Elon Musk is as lost as a 10 millimeter socket.
• 1:18:21
  You know, what's funny is I listened to something the other day and I
• 1:18:23
  know there's the whole cancel culture thing, especially NPR and Twitter and.
• 1:18:28
  Elon and all that stuff.
• 1:18:29
  We talked about that already, but they played some clip of him talking.
• 1:18:33
  I literally held my head in my hands and I'm like, who is this
• 1:18:37
  tool that is talking right now?
• 1:18:39
  They're like, Oh, that was Elon Musk.
• 1:18:40
  I was like, Oh my God, seriously.
• 1:18:42
  Yes.
• 1:18:43
  He's pushing boundaries.
• 1:18:44
  He's challenging norms.
• 1:18:46
  He's looking for solutions where there are no problems.
• 1:18:49
  The assembly line thing.
• 1:18:50
  I don't understand.
• 1:18:51
  It worked for Henry Ford 130 years ago.
• 1:18:55
  It still works today.
• 1:18:56
  They've only made the process better.
• 1:18:58
  I don't see why this boxing process or unboxing, whatever, it'll turn
• 1:19:03
  into stupid TikTok unboxing videos.
• 1:19:05
  Yeah, I don't want to put my car together.
• 1:19:07
  It's not a Super 7.
• 1:19:09
  It's not a Caterham, right?
• 1:19:10
  No, it's not an erector set.
• 1:19:12
  I want my car to be the same color.
• 1:19:14
  I want it to be gapped correctly.
• 1:19:16
  I want seals that seal.
• 1:19:17
  I want a quality piece of equipment.
• 1:19:20
  Speaking of Elon Musk and saying stupid things.
• 1:19:22
  The vacation is morally wrong.
• 1:19:24
  Not that vacation is morally wrong.
• 1:19:26
  It's that working from home is morally working from home is morally wrong.
• 1:19:30
  I don't understand what morals have to do with that, but when you're king of
• 1:19:34
  the world, you can say whatever you want.
• 1:19:36
  Right.
• 1:19:36
  I mean, that's, that's where this is.
• 1:19:37
  My favorite part was Musk said he himself works almost every day, taking
• 1:19:42
  just two to three days off per year.
• 1:19:45
  I work seven days a week, but I'm not expecting others to do that.
• 1:19:49
  He said, cool, bro.
• 1:19:51
  You work 363 days out of the year.
• 1:19:55
  Wow.
• 1:19:56
  You want a fricking gold star?
• 1:19:57
  If I had a billion dollars in the bank, I would do that too.
• 1:20:00
  Give me a billion dollars a year and I will work seven days a week
• 1:20:04
  in an office and work as a hobby.
• 1:20:06
  At that point, you're not really going to work.
• 1:20:08
  They say, Oh, you You love what you do and you don't do it for work.
• 1:20:11
  Of course, when you're filthy rich, when you're rich people,
• 1:20:14
  thanks, everything is a vacation.
• 1:20:16
  Everything's a hobby.
• 1:20:17
  What do you care?
• 1:20:18
  You like print money.
• 1:20:19
  I mean, this guy's like one of the richest people on the planet.
• 1:20:22
  Why do we keep feeding this maniac more money?
• 1:20:25
  Every freaking rocket he puts up into space explodes or whatever.
• 1:20:28
  I'm like, come on.
• 1:20:30
  I mean, I wouldn't even have talked about this and the sole purpose to not give
• 1:20:33
  this guy more airtime than he deserves.
• 1:20:35
  But it's Tesla.
• 1:20:37
  The car is one thing, but the stupid stuff that comes out of his mouth.
• 1:20:40
  That's the disconnect.
• 1:20:41
  Do people not put those two things together?
• 1:20:44
  No.
• 1:20:45
  How can you ignore that?
• 1:20:46
  People do it all the time.
• 1:20:47
  If the president of Ford came down and said something like
• 1:20:50
  this, people would just, like, their jaws would hit the floor.
• 1:20:53
  No, they wouldn't.
• 1:20:53
  They'd go out and they'd rev their F 150 in the driveway and
• 1:20:57
  they'd go to the grocery store.
• 1:20:59
  Well, my expectations are...
• 1:21:02
  Thoroughly lowered.
• 1:21:03
  Lowered expectations.
• 1:21:05
  Ooh, he went deep.
• 1:21:07
  He reached down into his soul for that one.
• 1:21:10
  That was good.
• 1:21:11
  My deep soul.
• 1:21:12
  You channeling your Barry White right there.
• 1:21:14
  That was good.
• 1:21:15
  Let's get it on.
• 1:21:18
  This is one of those moments where you're just not sure what to say.
• 1:21:22
  I can tell you what to say.
• 1:21:23
  It's what the fuck.
• 1:21:25
  This car.
• 1:21:26
  Instantly made our on cool wall.
• 1:21:29
  Is this a Vern Troyer car?
• 1:21:30
  It looks like something that would go for him.
• 1:21:33
  Ha ha It's the Mini Mii Treadsamp!
• 1:21:38
  Ha ha Credit where credit is due, it's really well done.
• 1:21:41
  No.
• 1:21:42
  Negative credits.
• 1:21:43
  Take credits away from this.
• 1:21:45
  It's exceptional.
• 1:21:47
  It's a micro machine.
• 1:21:48
  No, it is stupid.
• 1:21:50
  Okay, folks.
• 1:21:51
  It's a 76 Beetle.
• 1:21:53
  That looks like a Camaro Z 28.
• 1:21:56
  It's really well done.
• 1:21:58
  It really is.
• 1:21:59
  It is Stew . It is morally wrong.
• 1:22:03
  This is what Elon Musk was talking about, . I love one of
• 1:22:07
  the comments in the comment block.
• 1:22:09
  It says, okay, you get one car.
• 1:22:12
  This for Pontiac Aztec.
• 1:22:17
  Wow.
• 1:22:18
  This is genius.
• 1:22:19
  Again, it's up on our own cool wall.
• 1:22:21
  You could check it out.
• 1:22:22
  You could vote for it.
• 1:22:23
  That's all I got to say about that.
• 1:22:25
  It hurts.
• 1:22:26
  It's so bad.
• 1:22:28
  It hurts to look at.
• 1:22:29
  It makes me uncomfortable.
• 1:22:31
  It's so good.
• 1:22:32
  A Camaro makes me uncomfortable anyway, but this, whatever it is,
• 1:22:37
  makes me uncomfortable to look at it.
• 1:22:39
  You remember the 3d viewfinders we had as a kid and you put in the little disc
• 1:22:43
  and you pull the arm, it's what a Camaro would look like through a viewfinder
• 1:22:46
  because it's always sort of distorted.
• 1:22:49
  It's a picture.
• 1:22:50
  On a Windows 95 computer, where it's a regular Camaro, but you do stretch to fit.
• 1:22:59
  It's designed for an 800 by 600 screen.
• 1:23:02
  It is trash.
• 1:23:04
  What else is trash?
• 1:23:05
  Again, another trailer for the Gran Turismo movie.
• 1:23:09
  Have we not learned our lessons yet?
• 1:23:11
  All I have to say.
• 1:23:14
  This isn't a movie about the video game, this is a movie based on apparently a true
• 1:23:19
  story of somebody who entered those Gran Turismo driving experience challenge to
• 1:23:26
  find the next great driver or something.
• 1:23:28
  And like, that's what this movie is apparently chronicling.
• 1:23:31
  So it's not like it's some weird storyline of the video game itself.
• 1:23:36
  It's that like, there is this real race car driver, that was a kid who
• 1:23:40
  was so good at playing Gran Turismo video game that he actually got a
• 1:23:44
  ride as a professional race car driver now out of this Gran Turismo Academy.
• 1:23:49
  And now he's home playing Fortnite, eating Cheetos and drinking Red Bull.
• 1:23:54
  No, he's not.
• 1:23:54
  He's still a race car driver.
• 1:23:56
  Where?
• 1:23:57
  Nobody's heard of him.
• 1:23:58
  What series?
• 1:24:00
  Brazil driving Chevy Cruzes.
• 1:24:02
  I mean, what he's not in formula one or sports car or anything.
• 1:24:05
  No, he's in Toyota racing series, FIA F3, British GT championship,
• 1:24:11
  different endurances, GT four, 24 hours of this, that, and the other Dubai.
• 1:24:16
  I think that was maybe like the first race after the Academy or something.
• 1:24:20
  Yes.
• 1:24:20
  He's achieved more than probably most of us will have ever done,
• 1:24:23
  but do they race at Maple Valley?
• 1:24:28
  I mean, I'm not saying this is going to be a great movie.
• 1:24:31
  I'm also just saying that it's not some weird video game movie.
• 1:24:35
  It's a movie that happens to have video game in it.
• 1:24:39
  It's not like Doom or whatever other trash you compared it to.
• 1:24:43
  What was the other one?
• 1:24:44
  The Need for Speed movie?
• 1:24:45
  Oh, that was terrible.
• 1:24:46
  Yeah, that was really bad.
• 1:24:48
  This is more like a docu.
• 1:24:50
  The Gran Turismo sort of takes the center stage on that, and then you
• 1:24:54
  immediately go into this bias against it.
• 1:24:57
  And that's what I'm trying to highlight here.
• 1:24:58
  It's like, it could have been truth in 24, but then maybe that's
• 1:25:02
  not going to pull the people.
• 1:25:03
  And so it's this weird game of marketing.
• 1:25:06
  And then when people get there, like, Oh, this documentary is boring.
• 1:25:09
  But the minute it steps away from being a documentary.
• 1:25:13
  I don't think we can make it a documentary.
• 1:25:14
  No, it's a dramatization.
• 1:25:16
  Even though he's been a professional race car driver since 2011 and
• 1:25:20
  even to today, he's still active.
• 1:25:22
  He's not a Max Verstappen.
• 1:25:24
  He's not a Michael Schumacher.
• 1:25:25
  So it's not going to be interesting to be a documentary, right?
• 1:25:29
  Like he's had some good finishes in different series, but it's
• 1:25:33
  also not earth shattering, right?
• 1:25:35
  Yeah.
• 1:25:36
  So it's a challenge.
• 1:25:37
  I guess we'll have to stay on top of it, see what happens when it comes out.
• 1:25:40
  I'm not saying I'm not going to watch it.
• 1:25:42
  Not going to pay money for it.
• 1:25:43
  Yeah.
• 1:25:44
  I'm definitely going to review it with Steve and Izzy.
• 1:25:46
  I mean, that's all I'm saying about that.
• 1:25:48
  Right.
• 1:25:48
  So it's sort of like, I'm trying to keep my expectations lowered in this case.
• 1:25:53
  Cause I don't.
• 1:25:54
  want to get into the hype machine.
• 1:25:56
  Who knows?
• 1:25:57
  Maybe it'll be interesting.
• 1:25:58
  Maybe it'll inspire other people to get off the couch and get
• 1:26:01
  behind the wheel of a car.
• 1:26:02
  If that is the moral of the story, that's excellent.
• 1:26:05
  I only issue with the storyline and it's based on a true story.
• 1:26:09
  So fine.
• 1:26:10
  I feel like it's one of those one in however many thousands of these kids
• 1:26:13
  were like, yeah, this Academy that it's like, the odds of someone who's
• 1:26:17
  never driven a car before they play the video game and suddenly they get
• 1:26:20
  in a seat and they can win a race.
• 1:26:21
  I don't know.
• 1:26:22
  I just have a hard time believing there's such a disconnect between, I
• 1:26:25
  don't care how good your simulator is.
• 1:26:27
  I don't know.
• 1:26:28
  Maybe if your simulator is like a hundred grand, it could be good
• 1:26:31
  enough, but I don't know that Gran Turismo, the video game is good enough.
• 1:26:36
  Then like, You're translating into real world driving now, and so he could just
• 1:26:43
  be raw talent of a person that had he came up through carding or something like that.
• 1:26:49
  Like, he could have gotten to the same place.
• 1:26:51
  So it's really less to do about the video game because clearly.
• 1:26:54
  Thousands of other people didn't make it.
• 1:26:56
  And even there in the races that he won in the academy, he's racing
• 1:27:00
  against other, let's say non drivers.
• 1:27:02
  So you're the best of the worst.
• 1:27:04
  Yeah.
• 1:27:04
  I don't know how all that worked, but and if you've got a hundred grand
• 1:27:07
  to spend on a simulator, get out of your house and just go buy a Miata.
• 1:27:12
  You're going to have more fun.
• 1:27:14
  That's the point of a lot of this stuff.
• 1:27:16
  Right.
• 1:27:16
  Geez Louise, 100, 000 rig.
• 1:27:18
  Well, I'm making up another No, you're not wrong because
• 1:27:21
  there are, I've looked at them.
• 1:27:23
  Some of these sim rigs are 80, 000 plus dollars by the time you're done.
• 1:27:28
  They got the gyroscoping, this and that, and the shock absorbers.
• 1:27:31
  Buy a car.
• 1:27:32
  You can buy a Miata.
• 1:27:34
  You could buy a race prepped Miata for less than 30, 000, turn key with
• 1:27:38
  a logbook, and go to the track, and you'll have money left over for YEARS
• 1:27:43
  because Miatas cost nothing to run.
• 1:27:45
  And you're gonna realize on lap two, your video game has nothing to do with reality.
• 1:27:50
  As good as it is to your point, Tanya.
• 1:27:52
  If you're spending that kind of money, get off the couch and just go drive.
• 1:27:57
  We've talked about rental cars before.
• 1:27:59
  We know that Hertz was going into a deal with Tesla in the past and there's
• 1:28:03
  been other movement for EVs and why I bring this up because amongst my Camp
• 1:28:09
  Lejeune, AARP and other spam mail that I am constantly wading through every day.
• 1:28:15
  Every once in a while, there's a golden nugget in the pile of turds.
• 1:28:19
  And Avis sent me a promotion to entice me to come rent an electric vehicle next
• 1:28:25
  time I need alternate transportation.
• 1:28:28
  And what do they show me?
• 1:28:29
  Cover of this ad saving me up to 10%.
• 1:28:32
  It's Chevy Bolt.
• 1:28:33
  Yeah, I will take the base model Corolla.
• 1:28:36
  Thank you very much.
• 1:28:37
  I watch a lot of Hulu and they have, there's a lot of
• 1:28:39
  Hertz commercials on there.
• 1:28:41
  And recently it's been Tom Brady trying to get a rental car, whatever, how easy
• 1:28:45
  it is to get a rental car at Hertz.
• 1:28:46
  The first ones were of him stepping into a Tesla, you know, at the end of
• 1:28:51
  the commercial, but the most recent ones are him getting into a Polestar.
• 1:28:55
  I don't know if anybody picked up on that.
• 1:28:57
  I haven't seen that one yet.
• 1:28:58
  Is it all the same leading up to that moment?
• 1:29:00
  No, no.
• 1:29:01
  So it's, the first ones are him.
• 1:29:04
  The Tesla ones are like, got annoying after a while.
• 1:29:06
  Cause he's always like, come on.
• 1:29:08
  Yeah.
• 1:29:08
  He's doing menial tasks.
• 1:29:10
  It's like, like he's, he's acting like an impatient jerk.
• 1:29:12
  Yeah.
• 1:29:13
  And then he gets to the rental car place and was like, let's go.
• 1:29:16
  Let's go.
• 1:29:18
  And he gets to the car, it's like, Let's go.
• 1:29:20
  Let's go, man.
• 1:29:22
  Yeah.
• 1:29:23
  Yeah.
• 1:29:23
  So, so the, the one with the Polestar, he's actually doing an interview
• 1:29:27
  talking about how he always just wants to, let's go, but he can't.
• 1:29:31
  And then the interviewer is like, well, Tom, we've got something for you here.
• 1:29:35
  You're gonna get to go wherever you want, do whatever you wanna do.
• 1:29:39
  And they spin some stupid wheel and like, where are you going, Tom?
• 1:29:42
  You're taking an EV and you're going to X, y, Z place.
• 1:29:46
  And then they put 'em in a white polestar.
• 1:29:48
  That was like, Oh, I'm sure Elon likes this commercial.
• 1:29:51
  Meanwhile, Gronkowski is doing commercials with horses.
• 1:29:54
  Yo soy Fiesta.
• 1:29:56
  Exactly.
• 1:29:58
  My choice in rental car is solely based on price.
• 1:30:01
  So if you're going to offer me an EV at the same price as a compact.
• 1:30:06
  Or maybe a subcompact, then I don't care.
• 1:30:08
  Sure.
• 1:30:09
  As long as I'm somewhere where there's a charging infrastructure and I'm not like
• 1:30:12
  driving into the mountains and the boons where I know there's not going to be.
• 1:30:16
  But if I was in a city somewhere that had the infrastructure and
• 1:30:19
  you're giving it to me at the same price as an ICE, I don't care.
• 1:30:23
  But I'm not going to pay extra.
• 1:30:24
  And if you offer me a Chrysler 300 for the same price, I'm going to take that.
• 1:30:27
  That used to be my go to free upgrade.
• 1:30:30
  You want a Chrysler 300?
• 1:30:31
  We got like six of them, sure.
• 1:30:33
  Whatever.
• 1:30:33
  Let me, let me upgrade.
• 1:30:35
  Upgrade.
• 1:30:35
  But then again, like, what is the insurance cost at the rental car on these?
• 1:30:39
  What if it spontaneously combusts?
• 1:30:42
  If you don't own an electric vehicle, is your insurance company, are you going to
• 1:30:45
  be able to just say, Oh, I want to use my own insurance for this electric vehicle?
• 1:30:48
  How does all that work?
• 1:30:50
  It's a good question.
• 1:30:51
  Well, you know what else is a good question?
• 1:30:54
  And it really is rich people thangs.
• 1:30:56
  I don't understand this article.
• 1:30:58
  It was written really poorly.
• 1:31:02
  No flow, disjointed thoughts, zero, like, reasoning, descriptions.
• 1:31:08
  It goes right in line with, basically, photo needs no caption.
• 1:31:12
  I mean, the summary here is Alyssa Milano, who's the boss, and many other things.
• 1:31:18
  She apparently owned a Volkswagen, and she's had quite the journey
• 1:31:21
  from her Volkswagen to her Tesla.
• 1:31:23
  From Tesla to Volkswagen.
• 1:31:25
  There was controversy when she made the switch, because Volkswagen
• 1:31:29
  was in fact founded by Hitler.
• 1:31:30
  But that's what I don't understand.
• 1:31:32
  None of this flows, because it was like, there's this controversy.
• 1:31:35
  Because Volkswagen was founded by Hitler, but then she criticized the
• 1:31:39
  car manufacturer, which now suddenly we're not talking about Volkswagen,
• 1:31:41
  we're talking about criticizing Tesla.
• 1:31:43
  And then Volkswagen threatened to sue her, and then Tesla's gonna sue her.
• 1:31:49
  And I'm like, what are we even talking about?
• 1:31:50
  First of all, is this the ID Volkswagen?
• 1:31:53
  Or is it like a fucking Atlas?
• 1:31:56
  Or is it a Mark IV?
• 1:31:57
  Like, I don't even know what Volkswagen she has that caught on fire.
• 1:32:01
  Now, if you keep reading, if it was an EV, it's not some oh my god, another EV
• 1:32:06
  like spontaneously combusted, I guess what they found out, maybe, I don't
• 1:32:10
  even know, are there facts that have been checked here, is there legitimate
• 1:32:13
  sources, I can't tell, but apparently someone left a bucket of diesel and lit
• 1:32:17
  that shit underneath her car and arsoned, is why her Volkswagen is so messed up,
• 1:32:23
  and apparently they wrote, F you Elon hater, Did she piss somebody off with
• 1:32:28
  whatever her comments against Tesla were?
• 1:32:30
  I don't know.
• 1:32:31
  Is any of this true?
• 1:32:32
  Who cares?
• 1:32:32
  Oh my god, this is all bullshit.
• 1:32:35
  It has to be.
• 1:32:36
  Three individuals wearing red hats were seen running away from the scene.
• 1:32:41
  Did you like them?
• 1:32:42
  Fleeing.
• 1:32:43
  In a pickup truck with fake nuts.
• 1:32:46
  This must have been written by ChatGPT.
• 1:32:50
  Nothing makes sense.
• 1:32:51
  I'm like, I tried to scroll up.
• 1:32:52
  Is there a date on this?
• 1:32:53
  Like, was this April Fool's?
• 1:32:56
  I'm trying to see the name of the publication, but I can't because
• 1:32:59
  of all the fucking advertisements.
• 1:33:01
  I don't even know if this is this?
• 1:33:05
  What is this?
• 1:33:06
  Like, I don't even understand this was like added malware on my computer.
• 1:33:10
  Probably by opening this link,
• 1:33:14
  whoever this in the person, Chaudhry, Bader, he's a small
• 1:33:20
  business owner and blogger.
• 1:33:23
  Just run your antivirus after you open that book.
• 1:33:27
  Online tabloid is what it is.
• 1:33:29
  It's terrible.
• 1:33:30
  Well, if that wasn't bad enough, we still have to go south and
• 1:33:34
  talk about alligators and beer.
• 1:33:51
  Florida beer!
• 1:33:53
  So this Florida People article is just stupidity at its absolute
• 1:33:59
  finest and could happen anywhere.
• 1:34:01
  And it's worth watching this video because this was so...
• 1:34:06
  avoidable.
• 1:34:08
  And then the poor person whose Tesla was catching all of this with the cameras
• 1:34:13
  that were recording was innocent.
• 1:34:16
  And the video is taken from this poor Tesla's vantage point.
• 1:34:21
  So dumb on so many levels, inability to zipper merge, impatience, not paying
• 1:34:27
  attention, distracted driving, raging.
• 1:34:30
  to rear end two cars.
• 1:34:33
  And not like you rear end one that rear ends the other.
• 1:34:35
  No, you've like simultaneously managed to rear end two cars at once.
• 1:34:42
  And it's almost like the second Tesla that's doing the rear ending
• 1:34:45
  was like accelerating through it.
• 1:34:47
  Like the person ever hit the brakes.
• 1:34:50
  That's Tesla on Tesla crime right there.
• 1:34:52
  I feel bad for the white Tesla.
• 1:34:54
  It did nothing wrong, except be present.
• 1:34:57
  What a mess.
• 1:34:58
  But also, I liked the Lexus or whatever it was.
• 1:35:00
  I was like, okay, first of all Try to duck out of the way.
• 1:35:03
  If you're gonna swerve off the shoulder Just swerve.
• 1:35:06
  Like, get the hell onto the shoulder, not like Stay like a quarter on
• 1:35:11
  in lane because you wouldn't have gotten rear ended and she would have
• 1:35:14
  plowed straight into the other Tesla.
• 1:35:15
  How much does this crash cost?
• 1:35:17
  That's a hundred thousand dollars of damage done right there.
• 1:35:19
  Those are total probably a hundred percent.
• 1:35:22
  I mean, the white one's probably totaled the front end collision.
• 1:35:25
  The airbags went off for sure.
• 1:35:27
  Yeah.
• 1:35:27
  They're both of them.
• 1:35:28
  The red one too, probably the front popped open.
• 1:35:31
  Whoever that was, a lot of clothes in that front.
• 1:35:33
  Now I noticed she was living in her car.
• 1:35:36
  She couldn't afford a house anymore.
• 1:35:37
  She's living in her car.
• 1:35:39
  But anyway, not really funny.
• 1:35:41
  More public service announcement, but it did happen in Florida.
• 1:35:44
  Now this next one.
• 1:35:47
  Also, really isn't that funny, but in Colorado, the title of
• 1:35:51
  this is the goal of some people.
• 1:35:53
  I don't even know if that's the right thing to say, but don't drink
• 1:35:56
  and drive always at public service.
• 1:35:58
  Now, please don't drive under the influence of any type of substance
• 1:36:03
  suspected DUI driver leaps from car.
• 1:36:06
  Implies the dog was driving Fido is the one responsible for the car
• 1:36:13
  accident supposed to be here dog ate his homework and drove him to school.
• 1:36:18
  I mean, yeah, you know, and he ran he fled.
• 1:36:23
  And guess how far he got?
• 1:36:24
  Not very far.
• 1:36:26
  20 yards.
• 1:36:30
  He made it two first downs and then was caught.
• 1:36:33
  He sucks.
• 1:36:34
  This guy cannot run for shit.
• 1:36:37
  I wonder if it was a straight line he was running in.
• 1:36:39
  In fairness, he didn't have a collision, but he was driving enough.
• 1:36:44
  Under the influence, the dog was responsible.
• 1:36:46
  Sorry.
• 1:36:47
  The dog that he allowed to drive the car was not well equipped.
• 1:36:52
  Just like cats.
• 1:36:53
  No opposable thumbs.
• 1:36:55
  Did the dog have his learner's permit?
• 1:36:58
  You know, you should have your dog taken away from you.
• 1:37:01
  I mean, that's protecting the dog at that point.
• 1:37:03
  I mean, I'm sure there's somebody in PETA who's like this man endangered the dog.
• 1:37:07
  100 percent dogs are not supposed to operate heavy machinery.
• 1:37:11
  Wow.
• 1:37:12
  I'm gonna.
• 1:37:13
  Venture a guess that a dispensary was involved at some point.
• 1:37:17
  It's time we go behind the pit wall.
• 1:37:26
  This first one confuses me, guys.
• 1:37:27
  What the podium, there is a Netherlands flag under which
• 1:37:33
  Charles Leclerc is standing.
• 1:37:35
  And Max Verstappen is standing on the third place podium with the
• 1:37:39
  name Charles Leclerc under him.
• 1:37:41
  Underneath the Monaco flag, that is not correct.
• 1:37:44
  So somehow the two of them stood on each other's podium.
• 1:37:48
  So it's just a little bit amusing, that's all.
• 1:37:50
  Did you also notice that it says Ferrari under all of them?
• 1:37:53
  Yes.
• 1:37:57
  They all drive Ferrari.
• 1:37:58
  It's a complete win for Ferrari.
• 1:38:00
  I mean, this whole thing is messed up.
• 1:38:01
  Wow.
• 1:38:02
  Good job.
• 1:38:03
  Good job.
• 1:38:03
  That's what you paid that formula one subscription for, right?
• 1:38:06
  The podiums and stuff like the words on them could just be sponsored through that
• 1:38:10
  because there's like four podiums there.
• 1:38:12
  Right.
• 1:38:12
  And they all say Ferrari.
• 1:38:13
  So it's not like there was a fourth place person.
• 1:38:16
  Brad Pitt.
• 1:38:17
  We've talked about him before.
• 1:38:18
  He's doing that Formula One movie.
• 1:38:19
  He's working with Lewis Hamilton to bring that to the table.
• 1:38:23
  I don't know what's going to be more realistic, that, or that Gran Turismo
• 1:38:26
  movie we were talking about earlier, but they say they're going to put Brad Pitt
• 1:38:30
  behind the wheel of a Formula One car.
• 1:38:32
  Yes, he's directing this movie or whatever.
• 1:38:34
  I think also like it's this is his brain child Hamilton's involved in at
• 1:38:40
  least a Consulting capacity for now TBD.
• 1:38:43
  I guess if he gets some sort of a role maybe driving another car or something
• 1:38:47
  it's a little bit of clickbait because it's like Brad Pitt to drive a Formula
• 1:38:51
  One car and it's like Not really, because like, yeah, that's right.
• 1:38:56
  Brad Pitt driving an F1 car from Silverstone onwards.
• 1:39:00
  He won't be on the racing against any other people on track, and the
• 1:39:04
  race car he's driving will really be a modified junior F2 or F3 car.
• 1:39:10
  Mmm.
• 1:39:11
  So I'm like, you're not really driving a Formula 1 car then.
• 1:39:15
  He's driving a Formula car.
• 1:39:16
  Yes, but not a Formula 1 car.
• 1:39:18
  This whole movie is just a Pet project for Brad Pitt to be
• 1:39:22
  able to drive a formula car.
• 1:39:23
  Which I'm sure he could do without doing this movie.
• 1:39:26
  Maybe.
• 1:39:27
  I mean, Richard Hammond did it and didn't wreck, so, you know, hey, whatever.
• 1:39:30
  It's true.
• 1:39:31
  Which is the moral and the point here.
• 1:39:33
  Don't forget, he who does his own stunts does his own crashes too.
• 1:39:37
  We'll see how that plays out.
• 1:39:39
  Speaking of seeing how things play out, Northern Italy is in a bit of
• 1:39:42
  chaos, which forced the Imola, formerly known as the San Marino Grand Prix,
• 1:39:47
  to be cancelled and or postponed.
• 1:39:48
  That's not what it was called.
• 1:39:50
  Isn't it some like 15 word name?
• 1:39:52
  It is now.
• 1:39:53
  It was San Marino.
• 1:39:54
  We had this argument once.
• 1:39:55
  They call it by the region now.
• 1:39:57
  So it's the La Emilia Romagna Grand Prix.
• 1:40:01
  There was something like the first state something or other, whatever,
• 1:40:05
  I don't know, there was a whole bunch of names and there were a ton of memes
• 1:40:09
  about the name being exceptionally long.
• 1:40:11
  Spaghetti Glinguini Fettuccine Ziti.
• 1:40:14
  It's TBD what happens, because on the Formula One site it's...
• 1:40:18
  Listed as postponed in the schedule and not canceled.
• 1:40:21
  So maybe they probably gonna try and force it in somewhere.
• 1:40:24
  I think somewhere down the line.
• 1:40:25
  There was still a canceled race, right?
• 1:40:27
  Like, they were supposed to be somewhere there.
• 1:40:29
  They're not going anymore.
• 1:40:30
  So maybe on 1 of those kind of open weekends, they can re slot it in.
• 1:40:34
  I guess tbd.
• 1:40:35
  It'd be nice to see them race there, but obviously if they can't, they can't.
• 1:40:39
  This weekend is Monaco, so that will be interesting because whoever basically
• 1:40:43
  is on pole there is going to win the race, so it won't be that exciting.
• 1:40:47
  Where you qualify is where you finish, that's.
• 1:40:50
  Pretty much, so it'll be a train and maybe like one person will get to pass
• 1:40:53
  somebody, but that'll be about it.
• 1:40:54
  And Miami was two weekends ago and that was really a snooze fest.
• 1:41:03
  Not even that, it's just the difference in the Red Bulls is just outrageous.
• 1:41:08
  He passed the Ferrari and the Haas, which is also a Ferrari.
• 1:41:13
  He was behind them.
• 1:41:14
  He came out from behind them when the DRS enabled and it was
• 1:41:18
  like, they were fucking parked.
• 1:41:21
  How many places did he make up?
• 1:41:23
  He made up like 10 places, right?
• 1:41:24
  Or something like that?
• 1:41:25
  No, that was Azerbaijan, wasn't it?
• 1:41:27
  I thought it was Miami because he didn't finish.
• 1:41:31
  Q two.
• 1:41:32
  They didn't send him out in time.
• 1:41:33
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:34
  So he didnt get that.
• 1:41:34
  He didn't get a lap in Q two.
• 1:41:35
  So it was basically Sergio's race to lose.
• 1:41:38
  Yeah.
• 1:41:39
  And then he lost again.
• 1:41:42
  The Red Bulls were out ahead, you saw like they were posting like the speeds, the Red
• 1:41:46
  Bull and then like the speeds of the far, and it was like 10, 15 miles an hour fat.
• 1:41:50
  Like what the hell?
• 1:41:51
  What?
• 1:41:52
  You're a good 10 miles an hour faster.
• 1:41:53
  There's no way.
• 1:41:54
  There's no way.
• 1:41:55
  How is anybody like, I mean, everybody else needs to get their act together.
• 1:41:59
  Again, you guys are not convincing me to watch Formula One.
• 1:42:02
  You are all psyched.
• 1:42:03
  You got to watch it.
• 1:42:03
  You got to do it.
• 1:42:05
  It just sounds like bull crap.
• 1:42:07
  No, I think what Brad's been saying is you should watch Drive to Survive.
• 1:42:11
  Not gonna happen.
• 1:42:12
  Not gonna happen.
• 1:42:14
  I have a confession to make.
• 1:42:15
  Uh oh.
• 1:42:16
  You know, is this a safe space?
• 1:42:19
  Can I speak?
• 1:42:20
  I did not finish the last season of Drive to Survive.
• 1:42:24
  Oh, the pot has blackened.
• 1:42:29
  Soon it will be the kettle.
• 1:42:31
  And I feel like I don't need to see it because...
• 1:42:35
  You just watched the season.
• 1:42:36
  I watched the season.
• 1:42:37
  I did watch the last season, but I didn't watch the season before it.
• 1:42:40
  Cause I'm like, I don't need to watch this.
• 1:42:41
  I literally just watched the season.
• 1:42:43
  Why do I care?
• 1:42:44
  I used to be all hot and bothered about seeing the stuff
• 1:42:46
  going on behind the scenes.
• 1:42:48
  And I thought it was really cool.
• 1:42:49
  And now I'm just like...
• 1:42:50
  I watched it unfold.
• 1:42:51
  I don't like Red Bull.
• 1:42:53
  Red Bull's okay.
• 1:42:53
  I don't like Verstappen.
• 1:42:54
  No, you like rich energy.
• 1:42:55
  We already know that.
• 1:42:56
  I don't like Verstappen.
• 1:42:58
  I think he's a toolbag.
• 1:42:59
  It was one thing when Lewis Hamilton was winning, but I thought he
• 1:43:01
  was a decent enough human being.
• 1:43:04
  But I don't like for it to happen at all.
• 1:43:06
  Well, there's also rumor now that Hamilton might be going to Ferrari.
• 1:43:09
  I'm like, what?
• 1:43:09
  I did see that.
• 1:43:11
  I, I, I heard.
• 1:43:12
  We'll have to see what happens.
• 1:43:14
  I can't see that happening.
• 1:43:17
  Is Ferrari that desperate?
• 1:43:18
  What?
• 1:43:19
  And I thought that was like a thing with Hamilton.
• 1:43:21
  He didn't want to be associated with Ferrari because he didn't want
• 1:43:24
  to be Schumacher's replacement.
• 1:43:25
  The optics on that look for him.
• 1:43:27
  He's already broken Schumacher's records.
• 1:43:29
  He's well ahead.
• 1:43:30
  He's, he's surpassed Schumacher.
• 1:43:32
  I think now is the time to do it.
• 1:43:34
  May, that may have been true before, but now he is his own legend.
• 1:43:38
  He's not under anybody else's shadow.
• 1:43:41
  I don't know.
• 1:43:41
  Maybe I'll feel differently in 10 or 20 years when Formula
• 1:43:44
  One merges with Formula E.
• 1:43:46
  It was different growing up with Formula One and characters and the people
• 1:43:50
  like right now, I, I have a hard time identifying with anybody or really.
• 1:43:54
  Getting engaged with any of the drivers and that's kind of kept me away.
• 1:43:56
  And I guess that's the same when we talk about rally, right.
• 1:43:59
  For you, Brad, as you're kind of learning the system over there.
• 1:44:02
  So, you know, we're on two ends of that spectrum, but as we wrap out formula
• 1:44:06
  one news, Tanya, you got a first kind of digital look at the track for Vegas,
• 1:44:10
  which is coming up in November, right?
• 1:44:13
  What do you think?
• 1:44:14
  It looks like Long Beach.
• 1:44:15
  I fell asleep on the straightaways it was like, Oh, there's Caesar's Palace, what?
• 1:44:20
  Um.
• 1:44:21
  It literally looks like Long Beach.
• 1:44:23
  The straight is so ridiculously long.
• 1:44:25
  Red Bull is just going to be lapping everybody, I think, because
• 1:44:30
  they're so much faster straight line that it's going to be...
• 1:44:34
  Boring.
• 1:44:34
  Yeah.
• 1:44:34
  And Brad, you're right.
• 1:44:36
  Kind of does lay out a little bit like Long Beach in a way.
• 1:44:38
  And having been to Vegas many times, Tanya, you've been there as well.
• 1:44:43
  The strip is pretty long.
• 1:44:44
  There's not a lot of places to kind of turn off.
• 1:44:47
  So if they're going to build any sort of straightaway, they're going to
• 1:44:49
  have to use more of the Vegas strip.
• 1:44:51
  And that's your point.
• 1:44:52
  It's a long straightaway.
• 1:44:54
  It's boring.
• 1:44:54
  And they're going to do that twice.
• 1:44:56
  Right?
• 1:44:56
  So you're like, okay, it's not the same configuration as the old Yeah.
• 1:45:00
  Vegas Grand Prix, which did use some of the city streets.
• 1:45:03
  We're going to actually talk and cover that more throughout the year.
• 1:45:06
  There's some episodes coming that talk about the history of Formula
• 1:45:09
  one in Las Vegas and stuff like that.
• 1:45:11
  So look forward to that.
• 1:45:12
  If you tune into the show every week, I'm glad there's another race
• 1:45:15
  coming, but, you know, honestly, I'd like to see Formula one cars.
• 1:45:19
  Back at the Glen or something like that, or, you know,
• 1:45:21
  somewhere else in the States.
• 1:45:23
  Eric's glad another race is coming, but he doesn't watch and he's not going to watch.
• 1:45:26
  And he's not going to go either.
• 1:45:28
  Can any of you afford to go?
• 1:45:29
  Nobody's going to be able to go to that race.
• 1:45:31
  If you haven't booked tickets three years ago, it ain't happening.
• 1:45:33
  Sure.
• 1:45:34
  Sure.
• 1:45:34
  Yeah.
• 1:45:34
  Same with Miami.
• 1:45:35
  Once those were put on the books, it's impossible for
• 1:45:38
  us normal human beings to go.
• 1:45:41
  Where are you going to go?
• 1:45:41
  Like, what's the point of going to somewhere like Vegas?
• 1:45:44
  Where are you going to watch the race from?
• 1:45:46
  The tallest building you can find.
• 1:45:49
  Are you going to walk down the sidewalk of the Strip to get to another turn?
• 1:45:53
  No.
• 1:45:55
  You go to pay for that, what, million dollar VIP package?
• 1:45:58
  Yeah, you try to get some, some penthouse room in the MGM or
• 1:46:02
  whatever, the hotel, so you can just.
• 1:46:04
  See you over everything.
• 1:46:05
  Yeah, good luck.
• 1:46:06
  Brad Pitt will be in that room.
• 1:46:08
  Yeah, when we do the Vegas recap, we'll put that under rich
• 1:46:11
  people doing rich people things.
• 1:46:12
  100 percent on that one.
• 1:46:14
  Well, we'll switch quickly to WRC News.
• 1:46:16
  Brad, did you watch anything since the last time we got together?
• 1:46:19
  You know, I haven't had a chance to.
• 1:46:21
  My family's been sick for the last three weeks and I've
• 1:46:23
  just been trying to survive.
• 1:46:25
  No worries.
• 1:46:25
  Well, I will pick up.
• 1:46:27
  Where we left off, if you don't mind a quick recap of Croatia and
• 1:46:30
  Portugal, as we reported last month, unfortunately, Craig Breen was killed
• 1:46:36
  during an accident before the Croatia rally in testing for the Croatia
• 1:46:40
  rally, I will say Croatia watching it.
• 1:46:44
  Was quite sad.
• 1:46:45
  It was very somber.
• 1:46:46
  It Red Bull did an okay job of sort of covering.
• 1:46:50
  I expected more of a tribute to Craig, some of his past exploits, some of the
• 1:46:55
  cars he used to drive teams he drove for.
• 1:46:57
  They didn't really go into all that.
• 1:46:59
  It was really like, what is everybody else doing to honor him?
• 1:47:02
  You know, maybe that was at the behest of the family and stuff like that.
• 1:47:05
  I don't know.
• 1:47:06
  I thought it was cool that Hyundai threw a livery on all the cars.
• 1:47:10
  It was an Irish flag in honor of Craig.
• 1:47:12
  I thought the cars look fantastic.
• 1:47:14
  I think they should kind of play into that maybe a little bit more.
• 1:47:17
  One of the drivers, the gentleman that replaced him, Danny Sordo is going to
• 1:47:22
  be running an Irish helmet all year.
• 1:47:25
  And then he's giving it to Craig's family at the end of
• 1:47:27
  the year, which is pretty cool.
• 1:47:28
  It's a spectacular looking helmet.
• 1:47:30
  It matches the car's liveries and stuff like that.
• 1:47:33
  So as you move away from that, you could tell all the
• 1:47:35
  drivers were pretty bummed out.
• 1:47:37
  The whole just attitude of the race was just watching it.
• 1:47:41
  I was just like, like, this is depressing.
• 1:47:44
  People were definitely not at their prime or at their peak.
• 1:47:47
  Croatia is generally really intense, really high pace, very narrow.
• 1:47:51
  It's fast.
• 1:47:52
  It's exciting.
• 1:47:53
  This one just was not there.
• 1:47:55
  On Friday, both of Toyota's suffered punctures in the same pothole,
• 1:48:00
  driving the exact same line.
• 1:48:02
  In your guy's notes, you should have noted not to put the car there.
• 1:48:05
  And that took them out on Friday.
• 1:48:07
  That was a, that was a pain in the butt.
• 1:48:09
  On Saturday, Terry Neuville wrecked his Hyundai.
• 1:48:12
  I mean, he slid out, hit the back of the car on a tree, and it snapped the
• 1:48:16
  car around and crushed the front end.
• 1:48:18
  And it was so fast, and it was so violent.
• 1:48:20
  And you're just like, wow, okay, that was cute.
• 1:48:23
  It was on a very narrow section of track where he really had no choice.
• 1:48:26
  It was like, hit the tree or go off the cliff.
• 1:48:28
  And that was that.
• 1:48:30
  There was an interesting battle between Robin Pera and
• 1:48:32
  Ogier, the two leading Toyotas.
• 1:48:35
  They did lead going into Sunday, but Elvin Evans was pretty
• 1:48:37
  much at the top of the race.
• 1:48:40
  It was his rally to lose.
• 1:48:42
  He's been in that position many times before, but then something.
• 1:48:45
  Catastrophically goes wrong.
• 1:48:46
  And then there goes his win for the overall of the rally.
• 1:48:50
  I will say congratulations to Takamoto.
• 1:48:52
  He didn't wreck.
• 1:48:53
  So another Toyota came home in one piece.
• 1:48:56
  That was pretty cool.
• 1:48:58
  The end result was Elvin Evans, Oittanik, and Esa Pekka Lappi, one, two, three.
• 1:49:03
  Terry Neuville, they were able to get his car back together enough
• 1:49:07
  that he scored an extra five bonus points in the power stage, which
• 1:49:10
  is the last stage of the event.
• 1:49:12
  Good for him that at least keeps him in contention gives him some
• 1:49:16
  points since he didn't do that.
• 1:49:17
  Well, overall, I will say Citroen came to the table to play in Croatia.
• 1:49:22
  They beat out the leading SCOTA in the WRC2 class.
• 1:49:26
  It wasn't a ton of coverage on that, but it was actually quite exciting.
• 1:49:29
  Those guys were going full send.
• 1:49:31
  In those Citroens and those Skodas.
• 1:49:33
  And if you watch some of the action, I mean, they were just destroying those cars
• 1:49:37
  coming off of jumps and stuff because they were just pushing really, really hard.
• 1:49:40
  And like I said, overall, the whole of Croatia was meh.
• 1:49:44
  It led into Portugal, not even two weeks later.
• 1:49:47
  And the big draw in Portugal is what they call the FAF stage, the F A F E.
• 1:49:52
  It's stage 16.
• 1:49:53
  It's the one with the jump.
• 1:49:54
  The one everybody recognizes, they show it in all the rally videos.
• 1:49:58
  You get massive airtime, couple stories off the ground, flying at full speed.
• 1:50:03
  One of the most famous stages in all of rally.
• 1:50:06
  Unfortunately, Evans wasn't able to capitalize on his win from Croatia.
• 1:50:10
  He wrecked the car so bad in Portugal.
• 1:50:14
  It also caught on fire.
• 1:50:15
  So he was out starting on Friday and that was the end of his weekend.
• 1:50:19
  Terry Neuville could not catch a break.
• 1:50:21
  I chuckled so many times something wrong with the gearbox.
• 1:50:25
  The car was stuck in third gear and then they took him out for
• 1:50:28
  a while to try to fix the car.
• 1:50:29
  They got that fixed and he had zero power.
• 1:50:32
  His turbo failed.
• 1:50:34
  The hybrid failed.
• 1:50:35
  And I'm sitting here going, why?
• 1:50:38
  father, he was going out and literally doing stages at like 30
• 1:50:42
  miles an hour, just so he could get points for the championship.
• 1:50:48
  Didn't he have turbo issues in Mexico?
• 1:50:49
  Yeah, he had issues.
• 1:50:50
  He's had issues with the car constantly keeps complaining about it.
• 1:50:53
  And I, and at first I was like, stop whining.
• 1:50:56
  You know, you're getting old, you're getting beat by the young guys, but
• 1:50:58
  he's legitimately having problems.
• 1:51:00
  The car's falling apart around him, but it was just pathetic.
• 1:51:04
  And during the The super stage at the end, they put him out first and
• 1:51:08
  you're just watching everybody else.
• 1:51:09
  And they're like, this is going to take forever.
• 1:51:12
  Cause it's like 40 kilometers.
• 1:51:14
  You can only do like 30 miles an hour.
• 1:51:17
  It's going to take him an hour to get to the end.
• 1:51:19
  And it's like, they sent him out first thing in the morning and said, all
• 1:51:22
  right, Terry, just make it to the end.
• 1:51:23
  He brought the car home, but it was just laughable.
• 1:51:25
  It was comical and absolutely ridiculous.
• 1:51:28
  Oittanic suffered.
• 1:51:30
  Problems with the Puma.
• 1:51:31
  He had hybrid issues where he was also down on power, not in the
• 1:51:34
  same way that Terry Neuville was.
• 1:51:36
  The end result of the race was Ruv and Para, Danny Sordo, So Esa Pekka
• 1:51:39
  Lappi taking home two third place podiums in a row, Croatia and Portugal.
• 1:51:45
  Skoda was back on top in WRC2.
• 1:51:48
  Then I found a parallel between Rally and Formula One.
• 1:51:52
  There's this kid, Pierre Louie Lube.
• 1:51:54
  I don't know if you paid attention to him or not, Brad.
• 1:51:56
  He is the DeVry of Rally.
• 1:51:59
  He shows up when he wants, his dad pays for him to drive.
• 1:52:03
  He wrecks a car.
• 1:52:04
  He does care.
• 1:52:05
  He goes home, and they focused a lot on him for some reason in Portugal
• 1:52:09
  because apparently, I guess maybe that's his favorite or, or whatever.
• 1:52:12
  It was just laughable.
• 1:52:13
  Right now, Robin Pera, who is Ogier's teammate at Toyota, he leads the
• 1:52:18
  overall championship going into the Italian rally at Sardegna.
• 1:52:22
  And even though Ogier kind of plays when he wants to, he's still
• 1:52:26
  in the top three right now in terms of points and everything.
• 1:52:28
  So really interesting to see if Seb takes it to the end and ends up winning,
• 1:52:33
  despite not putting in all the races.
• 1:52:35
  Kind of goes to show how the points work in rally.
• 1:52:37
  Moving right along into sports car and endurance racing.
• 1:52:40
  I don't have anything to report right now, but I will be reporting
• 1:52:45
  some in the coming weeks.
• 1:52:47
  So pay attention to social media, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, et cetera,
• 1:52:50
  because I will be at the hundredth.
• 1:52:54
  Anniversary of Le Mans.
• 1:52:55
  So I will be reporting for France, which also means we won't be having a
• 1:52:59
  drive through next month because going on vacation, we're all taking a break.
• 1:53:02
  We need one after three years and 200 and some odd episodes.
• 1:53:05
  So look forward to the next drive through in July, but there
• 1:53:08
  will be updates from Le Mans.
• 1:53:10
  We will be talking all about remote Le Mans, and I'm hoping Brad and
• 1:53:13
  Tanya catch the race from home or wherever they're going to be.
• 1:53:16
  And we're going to talk about it a lot more, but it's going to be exciting.
• 1:53:18
  16 cars in LMP1 or GTP, Porsche, Peugeot, Ferrari, Cadillac.
• 1:53:23
  And so on down the lines, seeing if they can take on the mighty Toyota.
• 1:53:28
  So I'm looking forward to being there in person to see that it's a kind of a
• 1:53:31
  once in a lifetime opportunity in some respects, I just want to remind everybody
• 1:53:35
  that our motor sports news is brought to us in partnership with the international
• 1:53:38
  motor racing research center and Watkins Glen, just so you guys know, there
• 1:53:42
  are more episodes that we've done in partnership with the IMRRC and the society
• 1:53:47
  of automotive historians coming your way.
• 1:53:49
  Each month on break fix.
• 1:53:50
  So stay tuned.
• 1:53:51
  And as a reminder, you could enter to win a 2024 Corvette E Ray through the
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  IMRRC's sweepstakes, there is a promo code E Ray launch that you can use, and you
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  org on how you can enter to win.
• 1:54:10
  This 2024 Corvette E Ray 3LZ convertible.
• 1:54:14
  All the proceeds go to the research center and keeping it going.
• 1:54:18
  If you don't want the Corvette, there is a cash option and they
• 1:54:22
  run promotions throughout the year.
• 1:54:24
  Buy more, get more of those kinds of things.
• 1:54:26
  Two for one.
• 1:54:27
  Ticket opportunities, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:54:29
  And really quick, they have a couple of events.
• 1:54:31
  As we mentioned, they are focusing this year on the Corvette celebrating
• 1:54:34
  its 70th anniversary alongside of the 75th anniversary of Watkins Glen, the
• 1:54:39
  hundredth anniversary of Le Mans and the 25th anniversary of the center itself.
• 1:54:43
  There's an upcoming center conversation called the American sports car and inside.
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  Look at.
• 1:54:49
  Corvette racing, and that's going to be on June 24th from 5 to 7 p.
• 1:54:53
  m.
• 1:54:53
  It's a fascinating behind the scenes.
• 1:54:55
  Look at Corvette racing by Richard Prince, the official photographer for Corvette
• 1:54:59
  race team over the last 27 years and author of the book Corvette 70 years.
• 1:55:04
  The one and only if you're in town for the sale in six hours at the Glen, don't
• 1:55:08
  miss the opportunity to listen to this presentation while you're there in town.
• 1:55:13
  On September 30th.
• 1:55:15
  The IMRRC is going to have their 25th anniversary party and more details on that
• 1:55:20
  to come so stay tuned to their website.
• 1:55:21
  GTN along with many others will be live streaming and in
• 1:55:25
  attendance at the annual Michael R.
• 1:55:28
  Artsinger Symposium on International Motor Racing History.
• 1:55:31
  That's on November the 3rd and 4th.
• 1:55:34
  At Watkins Glen international, the symposium provides an opportunity for
• 1:55:38
  scholars, researchers, and motor racing writers of all descriptions to present
• 1:55:41
  their work related to the history of automotive competition and the cultural
• 1:55:45
  impact of motor racing to their peers and the motor racing community in general.
• 1:55:50
  We were there last year.
• 1:55:51
  We live streamed the whole event.
• 1:55:52
  There's other episodes coming as a result of that.
• 1:55:55
  And it was a fantastic and fascinating event to be a part of.
• 1:55:58
  And we're really looking forward to being there.
• 1:56:00
  So if you're interested in meeting any of us from GTM, feel free to come on down.
• 1:56:03
  And if you can't make it, be sure to tune into our Twitch feed and we'll be telling
• 1:56:08
  you more about that as we get closer to the event, upcoming local news and events
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  We've got a couple of events that we want to highlight June 3rd.
• 1:56:24
  The Mopar show is going on at the Volo museum in Volo, Illinois.
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  June 10th, Radwood is coming to Philly at Subaru Park in Chester, PA.
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  June 10th and 11th, the 7th annual Chesapeake Bay Motoring
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  Festival at Kent Island Yacht Club in Kent Narrows, Maryland.
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  June 17th, Thunder on the River in downtown Columbia, PA.
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  This one really got me.
• 1:56:47
  June 17th, the McSherrystown Fishing Game, Pig Rose Car Truck Show.
• 1:56:52
  Unfortunately, it didn't give any details about where it is.
• 1:56:55
  Is that before or after the nudist car show that you're going to?
• 1:56:59
  I think this is before the nudist car show.
• 1:57:02
  But if you want to go to this on collectorcarguy.
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  I believe the guy's name is Gary and tickets are 30.
• 1:57:11
  On June 23rd through 25th, M Vading the Dragon at Tale of the
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  Dragon, where BMW enthusiasts are taking their M cars to Tale of the
• 1:57:19
  Dragon in Maryville, Tennessee.
• 1:57:22
  And it's great you brought that up because that's being brought to
• 1:57:25
  us by one of our other sponsors, which is ESE carbon wheels.
• 1:57:29
  So I want a big shout out to Mike Pippitone for letting us know about
• 1:57:33
  the invading the dragon event, along with other tale of the dragon events
• 1:57:37
  listed over at collector car guide on June 24th, the rocking chair Nats car
• 1:57:42
  and truck show at Mason Dixon, Dragway in Boonesboro, and tons more events
• 1:57:46
  like these and all their details are available over at collector car guide.
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  net.
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  That's right, Brad.
• 1:57:51
  And now it's time for our hbdjunkie.
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  com trackside report.
• 1:57:54
  So what's coming out here as we're going on vacation?
• 1:57:57
  Well, the Northeast Quattro Club is going to be at Palmer Motorsports
• 1:58:02
  Park on June the 15th and 16th.
• 1:58:04
  They're also making their annual run to Mont Tremblant in Quebec, Canada for
• 1:58:10
  a couple of days of road tripping and some HBDE fun on July 15th and 16th.
• 1:58:16
  The Audi club is also holding an HPD event at Watkins Glen on
• 1:58:20
  July 31st through August 1st.
• 1:58:22
  I'm actually looking forward to potentially going to that event,
• 1:58:25
  so more details on that to follow.
• 1:58:27
  Our friends at the Washington DC region of SCCA will be holding their sixth
• 1:58:32
  combined HPDE and time trial on June the 24th and 25th at Dominion Raceway.
• 1:58:38
  By the way, that's the same weekend as the sale in six hours for anybody
• 1:58:41
  that was trying to make a decision on what they wanted to do that weekend.
• 1:58:44
  Meanwhile, if you can't make that WDCR will return to Summit Point for
• 1:58:49
  the Shenandoah Circuit Time trial in HPDE on July the 15th and 16th.
• 1:58:54
  That's the seventh event of the season so far with a, I believe,
• 1:58:58
  a total of 10 or 11 for this year.
• 1:59:00
  WDCR will also be holding their Level two Autocross school on June
• 1:59:04
  the 25th at Summit Point Motorsports Park, Amira, the Eastern Motor Racing
• 1:59:09
  Association, will be holding their third event of the season at Pocono.
• 1:59:13
  on June the 25th and 26th weekend.
• 1:59:15
  National Corvette Museum has their fourth HPD on July the 21st at National
• 1:59:21
  Corvette Museum Motorsports Park.
• 1:59:22
  And there are details out there on how you can drive at Spa, yes that's Spa in
• 1:59:28
  Belgium, over the 4th of July weekend with our friends at Hooked on Driving.
• 1:59:33
  And since we mentioned Hooked on Driving, that reminds me as a thank
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  So thank you for being loyal supporters of all our efforts and tune in
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  throughout the year for more promotions.
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  In case you missed out, check out the other podcast
• 2:00:03
  episodes that aired this month.
• 2:00:04
  Practice makes perfect, which is why you need to maximize your track
• 2:00:08
  time with Charlie Stryker over at Max Track Time, the perfect blend
• 2:00:12
  of testing and track weekend.
• 2:00:14
  Jim Cruz from Classic Auto Insurance takes us through why we should look
• 2:00:17
  past regular vehicle insurance for our beloved classic collector and race cars.
• 2:00:22
  Colleen Sheehan recounts 52 years of Ferraris Online, now known as
• 2:00:27
  the Prancing Skunk, as she takes the helm and sets sail for another 50
• 2:00:31
  years in the collector car world.
• 2:00:33
  We celebrated Indy 500 month with two IMRRC and SAH episodes, Second to One
• 2:00:40
  by Joe Freeman and Harry Miller and His Machines by Gordon Elliott White,
• 2:00:44
  both pertaining to the early days and developments of racing at Indianapolis.
• 2:00:49
  And finally, we celebrated our 200th episode with the legendary Mario Andretti.
• 2:00:55
  Tune in to episode 200 for awesome insight into his amazing career and find some
• 2:01:00
  great behind the scenes and outtakes available on our new YouTube channel at
• 2:01:04
  GrandTouringMotorsportsMedia, as well as more extras over on our Patreon.
• 2:01:09
  And since we'll be on break in June, fixing to get back into more
• 2:01:12
  drive thru antics in July, here's a sneak peek into next month we chat
• 2:01:17
  with Rob Morgan from MPG Racing, home of the GT Celebration Series.
• 2:01:22
  Bob Gerritsen stops by to tell us about the genesis of
• 2:01:25
  the famous Apple Porsche 935.
• 2:01:28
  Kat DeLorean returns with Tony Vallelunga to talk about what it's
• 2:01:32
  like to bend stainless steel into pieces that resemble a vehicle.
• 2:01:36
  Jeff Willis tells us about his new book, Human in the machine and hear
• 2:01:40
  from John Summers about how social and modern media have changed racing.
• 2:01:44
  And finally, Kevin McDonald from Positive Talk Radio chats with Crew
• 2:01:48
  Chief Eric about some of the lesser known parts of the GTM origin story.
• 2:01:52
  Thanks again to everyone that came on the show.
• 2:01:54
  We'll see you in July.
• 2:01:56
  Thanks, Tanya.
• 2:01:56
  We do have some new Patreons for May.
• 2:01:59
  Big shout out to our new Patreon supporter and GTM er, as well as
• 2:02:03
  Northeast Region Co Chief Marissa Cannon.
• 2:02:06
  She signed up to support us on Patreon.
• 2:02:09
  Celebrating some anniversaries, we have Northeast Co Region Chief Shane Cease
• 2:02:14
  celebrating nine years, along with Ethan Pinkert, who's out in Colorado now,
• 2:02:18
  but originally from our DMV region.
• 2:02:20
  We get together with him at Rolex.
• 2:02:22
  We've done that a couple of times and we hope to see him next year
• 2:02:25
  at Pike's Peak and Matt Small celebrating four years with GTM.
• 2:02:31
  And if you'd like to become a member of GTM, be sure to check out the
• 2:02:34
  new clubhouse website at club.
• 2:02:35
  gtmotorsports.
• 2:02:36
  org.
• 2:02:37
  We didn't have any special guests.
• 2:02:38
  I'm sorry, Mark Hewitt.
• 2:02:39
  We ran out of time.
• 2:02:41
  And of course our co host and executive producer, Tanya.
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  Honey, did you know Eric was going to France?
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  Off to France.
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  Bon voyage!
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  Are you ready for me to start?
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  Yeah!
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  I didn't read the article, of course, because why would I do that?
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  This is, this is excellent.
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  See, I was thinking of the U2 song, um, and I still haven't
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  found what I'm looking for.
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  Well, that is the theme this month, isn't it?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  You were lost and now you're found, doo dah, doo dah.
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  You were lost and now you're found, oh, doo dah dee.
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  That was creepy.
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  1988 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe G50, 65, 000.
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  It's like that old TV show.
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  What's the 64, 000 question?
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  What's for sale in Bringer Trailer?
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  I didn't read the article.
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  I'm sorry.
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  You know, surprise, surprise.
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  I thought you were going to talk about Ron Burgundy.
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