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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, good afternoon, listeners. Thank you for listening to Lament
- 0:03Speaker 1: of Hope podcast. And I'm very grateful. This is going
- 0:08Speaker 1: to be a little unconventional, because if you're watching this,
- 0:10Speaker 1: you're going to see it's just the logo for the podcast.
- 0:14Speaker 1: But Dr. Katina and I really tried, and unfortunately, we
- 0:18Speaker 1: weren't able to do video, but that's okay.
- 0:23Speaker 2: I'll take whatever comes, and I accepted it in his
- 0:28Speaker 2: grief and pain. you know, the Lord gives, the Lord
- 0:32Speaker 2: takes away, blessed be the Lord. I think that's something
- 0:35Speaker 2: we have to keep remembering. We see a lot of
- 0:37Speaker 2: tragedy here. A lot of death, a lot of really
- 0:41Speaker 2: painful deaths all the time. And it's really agonizing. And
- 0:47Speaker 2: I have to keep coming back to that. The Lord
- 0:49Speaker 2: gives and the Lord takes away, blessed be the Lord.
- 0:51Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I don't know why this young
- 0:53Speaker 2: kid died and I'm frustrated. And, you know, we did
- 0:57Speaker 2: what we could and we just were inadequate in the test.
- 1:01Speaker 2: And it's so painful. And yet, at the end of
- 1:04Speaker 2: the day, we have to accept it and move on.
- 1:07Speaker 2: And say, look, let's try to do better, but I'm
- 1:09Speaker 2: not God. God's the one that decides the stuff. And
- 1:12Speaker 2: in his infinite wisdom, this is how it ended up
- 1:14Speaker 2: for this person.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Can I ask what that was like when you first
- 1:19Speaker 1: experienced that? Because here in the U.S., I mean, we don't...
- 1:24Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone die. You know what I mean?
- 1:27Speaker 1: I've had... person die or like relatives who have died.
- 1:32Speaker 1: I wasn't there. They were kind of in a hospital somewhere.
- 1:36Speaker 1: And as kids, you know, people don't tell you about
- 1:39Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And it's deaf is something shadowed
- 1:43Speaker 1: and far people don't sit and watch deaf. People don't
- 1:47Speaker 1: sit and watch births, you know, like we don't really
- 1:49Speaker 1: see when life begins. We don't see when it ends.
- 1:52Speaker 1: And so when it happens to us, it is very novel. Um,
- 1:59Speaker 1: So when you came from that, from America, and also
- 2:04Speaker 1: where we can keep people on these machines for days, weeks,
- 2:09Speaker 1: months at a time, and we feel so powerful in
- 2:13Speaker 1: some ways. It's like, well, I can choose when to
- 2:15Speaker 1: turn that switch off. Right. How did that feel when
- 2:20Speaker 1: you came to Sudan and you're like, whoa, I can't
- 2:24Speaker 1: do this?
- 2:26Speaker 2: It's very humbling. Very, very humbling. The problem is in
- 2:30Speaker 2: the U.S., if somebody dies, you don't see kids die
- 2:36Speaker 2: that often. It's like a shock. I remember a friend
- 2:38Speaker 2: of mine was a pediatrician.
- 2:40Speaker 1: She was doing her.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Training at Boston Children's Hospital, and they were talking. Yeah,
- 2:45Speaker 2: we heard this child died over at Boston Children's Hospital.
- 2:49Speaker 2: It was a huge shock that a kid at Boston
- 2:51Speaker 2: Children's Hospital died. They would see the most complicated cases
- 2:55Speaker 2: in the country, the kids with really bad cancers, and
- 2:58Speaker 2: yet a child died there. Unfortunately, here, it happens all
- 3:01Speaker 2: the time. I'm not saying that we like it or
- 3:04Speaker 2: that we encourage that, but it's just something that happens.
- 3:07Speaker 2: We have a lot of malnourished kids. We have a
- 3:09Speaker 2: lot of kids that are very sick with malaria, a
- 3:12Speaker 2: lot of kids with TB, and despite our efforts, they die.
- 3:15Speaker 2: So it's very, very humbling. And the other thing, too,
- 3:18Speaker 2: is