Latest / Motivation Mindset Podcast / Alan Watts on the Meaning of Life — The Answer Hidden in Plain Sight
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You and the universe are really the same process. You
- 0:05Speaker 1: as an organism are an operation of the universe. The
- 0:09Speaker 1: real you, though, is the whole thing. Your soul isn't
- 0:13Speaker 1: in your body. Your body is in your soul, and
- 0:17Speaker 1: your soul is the entire arrangement of forces constituting this
- 0:20Speaker 1: universe centered on your physical organism. So that's why the
- 0:27Speaker 1: astrologer took the time and place of a person's birth
- 0:32Speaker 1: and said, how are the heavens arranged around that? That's
- 0:36Speaker 1: why you are. The soul is in heaven, the meaning
- 0:40Speaker 1: that it is heaven. It is the total arrangement of
- 0:43Speaker 1: cosmic forces, the total pattern. Then when you wake up
- 0:48Speaker 1: to that and actually feel it to be so, I
- 0:51Speaker 1: assure you it's just great, and you stop worrying.
- 0:55Speaker 2: You still are.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Sensible enough not to walk into a fire, but you
- 1:00Speaker 1: get rid of that deep central anxiety because it's like
- 1:05Speaker 1: the universe has nothing to fall onto if it drops,
- 1:10Speaker 1: and a fall will only be disastrous if there was
- 1:13Speaker 1: a flaw of concrete down below. The universe has nothing
- 1:17Speaker 1: to fall on. Everything in it is dropping. The Earth
- 1:22Speaker 1: is dropping around the Sun, just as long as it
- 1:25Speaker 1: isn't a planet in the way or something like that,
- 1:27Speaker 1: nothing happens, and the system as a whole there isn't
- 1:32Speaker 1: anything else. So why worry size if you disappear as
- 1:38Speaker 1: an organism? Great, because if you went on too long,
- 1:41Speaker 1: you get tired of yourself, And so what always a
- 1:44Speaker 1: new surprise in store. The thing is a self surprising system.
- 1:50Speaker 1: That's why it goes on. When you know the future perfectly,
- 1:53Speaker 1: it's already passed. You've had it. When you know the
- 1:57Speaker 1: outcome of a game and it becomes certain, answer it
- 2:00Speaker 1: and begin another one. So to know too much gets
- 2:05Speaker 1: you nowhere.
- 2:08Speaker 3: The astrologer was right when he drew a map of
- 2:11Speaker 3: your soul. He drew a crude map of the universe.
- 2:16Speaker 3: He drew the universe as it was at the time
- 2:20Speaker 3: and place of your birth, the universe as it was
- 2:23Speaker 3: as seen from the point of view where you were born.
- 2:27Speaker 3: And that was your soul. So your soul, you see,
- 2:33Speaker 3: is not in your body. Your body is in your
- 2:35Speaker 3: soul because your soul is the entire network of relationships
- 2:39Speaker 3: in terms of which you live. Your soul is the
- 2:45Speaker 3: whole universe. But each one of us, as it were,
- 2:51Speaker 3: is a different point in it. But all these points
- 2:53Speaker 3: in it are the center. We can go way beyond
- 2:58Speaker 3: Ptolemy and Copernicus. Now, and if we think that space
- 3:02Speaker 3: is curved, every point of space is the center of
- 3:07Speaker 3: the universe, because any point on a ball is the
- 3:12Speaker 3: center of the sphere of the surface. See. You can
- 3:16Speaker 3: turn any point of a ball, and wherever you look
- 3:19Speaker 3: at it, it's the center, isn't it.
- 3:21Speaker 1: See So in the same way, take a crystal ball
- 3:24Speaker 1: in your hand, a crystal mirror, and no, I'm what
- 3:27Speaker 1: I mean. It's not a crystal mirror. I mean a
- 3:29Speaker 1: spherical mirror.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Look at it, and wherever you turn it, your face
- 3:33Speaker 3: will be in the middle. So, in exactly the same way,
- 3:38Speaker 3: every place in the universe is the middle of the
- 3:40Speaker 3: universe from a standpoint of curved space. So we go
- 3:47Speaker 3: back to an entirely new Ptolemaic view of the world
- 3:51Speaker 3: beyond Coponitus. Not that the Earth is that.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Yes, the Earth is the center of the universe, but
- 3:58Speaker 1: every other place is also the center the universe.
- 4:01Speaker 3: There is no absolute center. So this is an astronomical
- 4:08Speaker 3: way of saying in Sanskrit tat vaasi, you're it. Everyone
- 4:19Speaker 3: is rightly the center. You may think. My mother used
- 4:22Speaker 3: to say, you're not the only but in a way
- 4:27Speaker 3: everyone is the central pebble, and the feeling that you
- 4:31Speaker 3: have of being the center, which turns out into selfishness
- 4:35Speaker 3: and all the sort of conflict scrapping, is nevertheless based
- 4:41Speaker 3: on something true. What we do is we misinterpret it.
- 4:45Speaker 3: We don't realize that everybody else is the center too.
- 4:50Speaker 3: In that sense, you're not the only pebble on the beach,
- 4:53Speaker 3: you're not the only center of the universe. And yet
- 4:56Speaker 3: there is only one center. And that's why.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Who was it?
- 5:03Speaker 3: I think it was Saint Bonaventure who first thought up
- 5:06Speaker 3: the description of the definition of God as that circle
- 5:10Speaker 3: whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere. This
- 5:16Speaker 3: is called the doctrine of the mutual interpenetration of all
- 5:19Speaker 3: things and events. So it would be like there's lovely
- 5:25Speaker 3: drawings where you take a circle and you can play
- 5:28Speaker 3: with us.
- 5:28Speaker 1: It's a nice thing to play with.
- 5:29Speaker 3: And you mark out twelve equal points around the circumference
- 5:32Speaker 3: of the circle. Then you join every point to every
- 5:35Speaker 3: other point. You have a beautiful star. And incidentally, this
- 5:40Speaker 3: is the diagram of the notes of the twelve notes
- 5:43Speaker 3: of the scale bach we desire, And it's a lovely thing.
- 5:52Speaker 3: You see, it's a beautiful star. So this is the
- 5:58Speaker 3: diagram of the way it all fits together. Now, if
- 6:04Speaker 3: you study that, and by study again I mean not
- 6:09Speaker 3: just think about it, but feel it out, you will
- 6:15Speaker 3: find very strange things happening. You will find that the
- 6:20Speaker 3: present moment, with all its particularity, in which you live
- 6:25Speaker 3: and are functioning now, is exactly the same thing as
- 6:30Speaker 3: anything you could possibly conceive of as eternity. You will
- 6:33Speaker 3: find that your limited life, and remember what I said
- 6:38Speaker 3: about limits, you have to have something to push against.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Your limited life, with its frustrations and with its particular
- 6:45Speaker 3: problems at this instant, is the same thing as omnipotence,
- 6:51Speaker 3: and that your situation in space, it.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Implies the infant, the eternal, All the energy of the universe.
- 7:02Speaker 3: Is implied in any tiny hair on your skin. It
- 7:08Speaker 3: goes with it mutually implies.
- 7:11Speaker 1: This is the point.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Just as the kind of cosmos and atmosphere in which
- 7:18Speaker 3: we live, My existence implies that kind of an environment.
- 7:21Speaker 1: So the environment implies.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Me mutually, and it all goes together. Now, the only
- 7:28Speaker 3: reason for saying this, you see, this is really terribly obvious,
- 7:33Speaker 3: But the only reason for saying it is that people
- 7:35Speaker 3: don't know it and think instead that they don't belong
- 7:40Speaker 3: that this. You know, I'm just because the parents put
- 7:44Speaker 3: down the children and said little children to be seen
- 7:48Speaker 3: and not heard, who don't belong here. Like I read
- 7:51Speaker 3: the other day in some paper some young person's addressing
- 7:56Speaker 3: a girl and saying he was trying to make love
- 7:59Speaker 3: to he was trying to woo her, and she said,
- 8:01Speaker 3: you you you won't be friends with me because you
- 8:04Speaker 3: say I don't like your personality. Said, you don't have
- 8:08Speaker 3: to have a personality. A personality is it something you
- 8:10Speaker 3: had to put on because your mother.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Didn't know it and you had to make up. Really,
- 8:15Speaker 1: you don't need.
- 8:16Speaker 3: A personality because you're You're, You're the essential thing you see,
- 8:21Speaker 3: and the personality is just a way of them performing to.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Ingratiate yourself.
- 8:32Speaker 3: Well, we all do it because we put on personalities
- 8:34Speaker 3: when we act like clowns and entertain the audience, put
- 8:39Speaker 3: on masks, funny faces, but really and truly, the mask
- 8:46Speaker 3: covers the oneself.
- 8:48Speaker 1: That we all have and we all know it. Only
- 8:56Speaker 1: just like black and white, we are pretending to be
- 8:58Speaker 1: as different as possible.
- 8:59Speaker 3: While I'm in.
- 9:01Speaker 2: What there is and all that there is. You know,
- 9:03Speaker 2: it's interesting that in a view of the universe which
- 9:08Speaker 2: these space is curved, imagine for a moment this is
- 9:12Speaker 2: not quite correct, but that all objects in space are
- 9:15Speaker 2: on the surface of the sphere. Then you will see
- 9:19Speaker 2: at once that every point on the surface of a
- 9:23Speaker 2: sphere can be regarded as.
- 9:25Speaker 1: The center of the surface. Where is the central point
- 9:31Speaker 1: of the surface of the sphere anyway, So in this
- 9:36Speaker 1: way we can legitimately regard every point in this universe
- 9:40Speaker 1: as being the center of the whole thing. And it's
- 9:45Speaker 1: in this multi centered sense that every eye which looks
- 9:51Speaker 1: around and sees the world as something that spins around you.
- 9:56Speaker 1: If you're the axis, you're quite correct. But you know
- 10:01Speaker 1: how it is when you hold in your hand the gyroscope,
- 10:07Speaker 1: isn't it It always.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Feels alive, do isn't it? Because it surprises you.
- 10:12Speaker 1: It wants to move in a direction which you didn't predict.
- 10:17Speaker 1: And that movement of the gyroscope that you hold that
- 10:21Speaker 1: seems to be against you is the movement in life
- 10:24Speaker 1: we call other or what happens to us when we feel,
- 10:30Speaker 1: on the other hand, that I am moving the gyroscope
- 10:32Speaker 1: in the direction I wanted to go. That's what we
- 10:34Speaker 1: call self, that's what we call voluntary. And you can't
- 10:38Speaker 1: possibly know the one without the other. You don't know
- 10:43Speaker 1: what you mean by self unless you know what you
- 10:45Speaker 1: mean by other. You don't know what you mean by
- 10:49Speaker 1: the voluntary. What I want to happen, except in contrast
- 10:53Speaker 1: and play against the involuntary, what happens to me Two