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AM800 Roundtable with Kieran McKenzie, Peter Hrastovec, & Syx Langeman · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning everyone. Hope you're doing well. Starting off
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  Speaker 1: the show with a little bit of Metallica. Will knows
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  Speaker 1: how to start things off subtly, quietly, on a very
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  Speaker 1: gentle footing. It's the Dan McDonald's show. John Lydkey here
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  Speaker 1: on AM eight hundred CKLW Thursday round Table. This week
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  Speaker 1: is flying by. Heck. I can't believe I got in
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  Speaker 1: studio two in a row. Counselor Kieren McKenzie Ward nine,
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  Speaker 1: How you.
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  Speaker 2: Doing, Happy to be back. Thanks for having me. John.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, so I went down to the pole yesterday. I
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  Speaker 1: saw that I took a photo. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Did you post it on Instagram?
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  Speaker 1: I did post it for you. It's a pretty cool poll.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a beautiful monument.
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  Speaker 1: I really screwed up. It was just I'm just I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna blame it on whoever took the photo that was
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  Speaker 1: posted to the mayor's page. That I think is the
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  Speaker 1: only issue. Don't know if we needed to do two
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  Speaker 1: full segments on it because we had to do the
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  Speaker 1: follow up, but hey, it's cool, like.
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  Speaker 3: Way to talk about the Twin Cities program though. That
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  Speaker 3: was that was really great to you to to open
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  Speaker 3: up that opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. We have also in studio photographer
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  Speaker 1: extraordinaire director Municipal Rabble Rouser six Langman in studio six.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Hey, thank you very much, good morning, Thank
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  Speaker 3: you to be here.
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  Speaker 1: That's very subtle and quiet, just as much as.
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  Speaker 4: The Metallica put me in this sort of nice We're
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  Speaker 4: not quite the metal we we had at the Olympics,
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  Speaker 4: but you know it's metal.
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  Speaker 2: Nonetheless.
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  Speaker 1: We also have in studio lawyer, author poet laureate for
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  Speaker 1: the City of Windsor, Peter Harassovic.
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  Speaker 5: How you doing, I'm great, Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: John.
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  Speaker 5: Great to see everybody this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Great to be here, Great to have you here. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: can I call you like the flag guy?
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  Speaker 5: Well, no, it's our but let's say it's our flag,
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  Speaker 5: our flag guy, Yeah, because people will say I love
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  Speaker 5: your flag, guess No, no, no, it's our flag, it's
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  Speaker 5: the community's flag.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's all about all of us. Okay. Well I
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  Speaker 1: like that. That's very diplomat than you of you. Okay. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's dive right into things and I'm gonna bring your
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  Speaker 1: voice into this one. First here and news poll question
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  Speaker 1: today on AM eight hundred is have you lodged a
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  Speaker 1: dirty yard complaint against the neighbor text US five one
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  Speaker 1: nine seven nine two CKLW let us know. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: the show going counselor. I listen, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: ask you to come out in their dirty laundry here
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  Speaker 1: as an elected official, and you know, lose a couple
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  Speaker 1: of votes on each side of the House. That's not
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  Speaker 1: a good idea whatsoever. I'm sure you get phone calls
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  Speaker 1: about this one.
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  Speaker 3: I get phone calls, I get emails. And these bylaw
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  Speaker 3: complaints that that are, you know, neighborhood issues. They're challenging
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  Speaker 3: ones for any counselor to deal with. I will say this,
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  Speaker 3: and I really do love the approach that our administration
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  Speaker 3: takes Craig Robertson, I forget the clunky title that he has,
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  Speaker 3: but essentially the Commission of our by Law Enforcement group
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  Speaker 3: takes a very strong approach to bylaw enforcement on the
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  Speaker 3: education side. So, and I just had a conversation with
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  Speaker 3: a resident yesterday about this very issue. And there's a
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  Speaker 3: number of folks on History that, in his view, aren't
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  Speaker 3: doing a good enough job maintaining their property. They leave
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  Speaker 3: their garbage cans out in front of their home at
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  Speaker 3: the curb all week long and they just bring the
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  Speaker 3: bag out and whenever. So and he's of the view
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  Speaker 3: that those residents just don't know better. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that our by law enforcement folks are also of the
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  Speaker 3: view that we're not going to come in when we
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  Speaker 3: get that call that we have to respond to hot
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  Speaker 3: and ready to write some kind of work order or
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  Speaker 3: some type of citation. They take the approach of we're
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  Speaker 3: going to try to educate folks around what their obligations
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  Speaker 3: are as residents, property owners, or whatnot, to make sure
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  Speaker 3: that their yard is in compliance with the rules that
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  Speaker 3: we've all agreed that we kind of want to see
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  Speaker 3: have across the community. Cut your grass and make sure
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  Speaker 3: the yard is that you know, it was just a
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  Speaker 3: general level of like cleanliness if you will, and you
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  Speaker 3: know your garbage cans, bring them to another spot the
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  Speaker 3: side of the house outside is an appropriate place to
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  Speaker 3: to story to store uh trash can. So it's it's
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  Speaker 3: more of an approach, at least in the early goings,
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  Speaker 3: maybe the first or in or second time that they
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  Speaker 3: have to go to a particular home where we just
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  Speaker 3: again try to take that proactive educational approach if folks
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  Speaker 3: remain uncompliant. Look, I think it's only fair that we
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  Speaker 3: would have to take, you know, a higher level of
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  Speaker 3: enforcement and perhaps you know, show up cut people's lawns
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  Speaker 3: on their behalf and then we build them.
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  Speaker 2: Afterwards if it gets to to that other level.
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  Speaker 3: But the point is that I think it's a it's
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  Speaker 3: a it's a much better way to deal with these
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  Speaker 3: these types of issues to approach people from a constructive
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  Speaker 3: standpoint rather than a straight let's go straight to the enforcement, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and the highest level of of of trying to get
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  Speaker 3: people to get into a level of compliance. So I
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  Speaker 3: like the approach, and I understand why these issues come forward.
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  Speaker 3: We're just trying to keep all of our neighborhoods nice clean.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: There's infestation issues that that sort of result from some
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  Speaker 3: of these these challenges. So you know, I guess there
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  Speaker 3: you have it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's the safety and security issue of you know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know if there's someone potentially like hiding in
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  Speaker 1: someone's front yard waiting to you know, capture, abduct or like.
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  Speaker 2: Hurt inside the garbage can.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about like in a front yard that has
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  Speaker 1: grass that's way too high, Like there are issues related
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  Speaker 1: to security. I will bring you on at another time
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  Speaker 1: because I think there's a really interesting conversation we had
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  Speaker 1: about how well we try to do the education side
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  Speaker 1: of things. First, I will note that that's not how
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  Speaker 1: it works when it comes to parking enforcement, where we
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  Speaker 1: just ticke it and we use it as a revenue source.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe the same could be done on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: But that's a conversation the other day. And I want
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  Speaker 1: to keep you in my good books right now and
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  Speaker 1: have you not getting at me again for a second
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  Speaker 1: time this week? Six? How about you you call a
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  Speaker 1: three one one on your neighbors?
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  Speaker 2: Ever, I haven't.
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  Speaker 1: No. No, is that because you're being brave right now
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  Speaker 1: and not telling the truth on air?
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm actually being honest. I considered it earlier this
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  Speaker 4: year because there was so much neighbor who which they Why, Well,
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  Speaker 4: it was not Glenn. So let's just say that I
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  Speaker 4: take care of Glenn's lawn. I mean he's he's next door,
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  Speaker 4: Glen Donaldson with one of our city artists that does
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  Speaker 4: a lot of murals in the city. And on to Glenn. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: he's he's not around a lot, he's doing his own things.
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  Speaker 4: So I kind of take care of my lot and
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  Speaker 4: his lot, and he's got a corner lot, so that
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  Speaker 4: there is a big kind of you know, city property
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  Speaker 4: that that we kind of have to handle. But there
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  Speaker 4: was a neighbor who had quite a long lawn, like
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  Speaker 4: it was weird because half of it would be cut
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  Speaker 4: and then the other half not, and couldn't figure it
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  Speaker 4: out for a little while. And I think it was
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  Speaker 4: probably an extension cord issue because it was an electric
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  Speaker 4: just so maybe that person ran over their extension court
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  Speaker 4: and it didn't get a new one.
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  Speaker 2: For a couple of weeks. But I believe a little.
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  Speaker 4: Bit more in that education thing, I think that would
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  Speaker 4: be great. I think it'd be great if you know,
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  Speaker 4: I know, we get like a calendar scent at the
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  Speaker 4: beginning of the year for when you know, recycling gets
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  Speaker 4: picked up and stuff like that, and maybe those are
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  Speaker 4: places too where we should be putting some of the
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  Speaker 4: education story if that's already in those We.
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  Speaker 3: Have an app to the recycle Coach app so it
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  Speaker 3: can be right on your phone and all the collection
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  Speaker 3: schedule there you go.
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  Speaker 4: But would they send your reminders to maybe cut your lone?
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  Speaker 2: You can accept push it well, but you tell.
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  Speaker 3: You because that would be great toot or the yard
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  Speaker 3: waste is going to go out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know education in that sort of sense.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we get some some little notes from the
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  Speaker 4: city about, you know, what the city is doing and
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  Speaker 4: you know, the accomplishments of the last you know, sort
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  Speaker 4: of year. I think maybe at the beginning of the spring,
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  Speaker 4: it's just like here's a little reminder from the city
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  Speaker 4: that these are the things that you need to do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean in the winter that's also an issue as well.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, so snow on the sidewalk or ice on
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  Speaker 4: the sidewalk, those are things that we've got to just
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  Speaker 4: kind of keep up on. But I think it it
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  Speaker 4: you know, it does kind of come down to a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of like pride of your neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you if you like where you live,
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  Speaker 2: you know, take care of it.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, if you notice that your neighbor is
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  Speaker 4: not taking care of it, you know, the option is
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  Speaker 4: always there to ask them and take care of it.
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  Speaker 4: I can't send them a bill, city can.
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  Speaker 1: But where you can send them a bill, pay it,
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  Speaker 1: I could. Yeah, I could do what I do.
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  Speaker 2: Have a business.
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  Speaker 1: Pay for the next mo. You don't have to say
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  Speaker 1: that though, Peter, how about yourself. I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a contentious issue, right, because you want to be a
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  Speaker 1: good neighbor. You don't want to go causing problems on
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  Speaker 1: your street. But then sometimes things get to a certain
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  Speaker 1: point where it's like, I do need to dial those
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  Speaker 1: three numbers three one one, not nine one one. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, have you ever had to oh?
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  Speaker 5: I once, actually I had one person call me. They said,
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  Speaker 5: you know you're a lawyers. I don't want you to
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  Speaker 5: assume my neighbor because they're not cutting their grass. And
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  Speaker 5: I just directed them to the city. I said, look, now,
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  Speaker 5: save save, save some money, don't pay any lawyers. Call
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  Speaker 5: the city because the city is there to help you.
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  Speaker 5: I once had a situation on behalf of a vulnerable person.
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  Speaker 5: We called in their behalf to deal with not just
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  Speaker 5: long grasp, but there was all kinds of refuse, garbage,
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  Speaker 5: just you name it. Uh, And the city came by
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  Speaker 5: and took care of it, because again it was a
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  Speaker 5: concern about health and hygiene.
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  Speaker 1: All those things.
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  Speaker 5: But I think what counselor said is really important about
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  Speaker 5: Karen said about education, but I think it's information knowing
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  Speaker 5: who it is that you're calling about. Is the personal
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  Speaker 5: vulnerable person themselves? Is there some health issues? Do they
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  Speaker 5: need some assistance? Are the elderly for example? A lot
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  Speaker 5: of times I've seen, you know, in our neighborhood there's
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  Speaker 5: community support. People come out and help people who need help,
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  Speaker 5: and you never really see any issues. But you start,
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  Speaker 5: you know, investigating, ask questions. Do it politely if you can.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're shut down from the very beginning,
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  Speaker 5: they don't want to deal with you, and it becomes
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  Speaker 5: a problem that I can see, Yeah, bring the city
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  Speaker 5: in and they'll take care of things. But I think
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  Speaker 5: six set right. You know, you take pride to your community,
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  Speaker 5: taking prime your community, I think is also extending a
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  Speaker 5: helping hand when you can in those particular circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure Glenn really appreciates it.
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  Speaker 3: Before we go on from this, John, we have this
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  Speaker 3: snow Angel program the city of winsor where and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I at least could ask the question internally as to
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  Speaker 3: whether or not we can look at potentially extending that
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  Speaker 3: program into into the summer months for yard maintenance if
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  Speaker 3: there's a need. And especially Peter E raised the issue
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  Speaker 3: of vulnerable people who don't have perhaps even just the
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  Speaker 3: physical capability of maintaining their property.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's at least.
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  Speaker 3: Worth asking some questions about whether or not we can
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  Speaker 3: provide some support in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: Got the Snow Angel program, we could go with the
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  Speaker 1: Grass Saints program.
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  Speaker 2: Is that. Okay, we're working on the marketing.
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  Speaker 1: You got a finger marketing first. Otherwise, okay, we got
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  Speaker 1: two comments that came in on this. One. One says,
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand why homeowners need to be educated on
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  Speaker 1: keeping their property clean. You can't tell me that they
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  Speaker 1: don't know the difference another person sex in. I got
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  Speaker 1: to do a little bit of changing of some words here.
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  Speaker 1: I lodged the complaint of dumping through three one one,
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  Speaker 1: specifically the mayor dumping his may oral superpowers throughout windsor.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like that. So two different takes on three
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  Speaker 1: one one issues. I don't think three one one can
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  Speaker 1: respond to the.
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  Speaker 2: The falls within the that falls with the scope of
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  Speaker 2: three one one.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to call the province on that one.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break right now, just about
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  Speaker 1: nine to eighteen, John Lidkey here on AM eight hundred CKLW.
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  Speaker 1: We're back after this that the Hey, we're back a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of meon trees there as we're coming in
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  Speaker 1: from the commercial break up. You're all doing well. Nine
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  Speaker 1: twenty two keeping this Thursday roundtable going Ward nine Councilor
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  Speaker 1: Kieren McKenzie, lawyer, author, poet, laureate Peter Harrassovic also six Langman,
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  Speaker 1: photographer and municipal rabble rouser. That's the title you get now, six.
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  Speaker 1: I hope I like that. Enjoy it. Hey, so we've
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  Speaker 1: got like, I don't know, I guess we're just gonna
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  Speaker 1: go and call this a NIMBI issue. Right now. Mayor
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  Speaker 1: Dilkins is saying, look, we got that forty five million
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  Speaker 1: dollar facelift of Cabana Road. It's nearing completion. It's great.
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  Speaker 1: Now we've got to start looking at denser housing development
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  Speaker 1: along this road. Some south windsor residents are going, what
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  Speaker 1: the whoa? This wasn't ever part of why we were
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  Speaker 1: doing the road, to which the response is, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think why we're Why would we be doing this
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  Speaker 1: road if it wasn't for obviously accessing the lands that
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  Speaker 1: are in that area. Counselor, I bring your voice in
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  Speaker 1: first on this one. I mean we need more housing.
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  Speaker 1: The tough issue is when it comes to it is
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  Speaker 1: everyone agrees. Everyone agrees in the city we need more housing,
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  Speaker 1: we need to have taller housing, we need to have
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  Speaker 1: more densification, but not near me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know we're to your POINTO, We're in
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  Speaker 3: a housing crisis. But of course Cabana Road that's the
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  Speaker 3: easy one. Like there's a lot of more challenging housing
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  Speaker 3: related issues and related housing intensification related issues.
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  Speaker 2: That we're that are ongoing.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, if we can't do densification on main
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  Speaker 3: arterial roads that have significant vehicular capacity, that are on
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  Speaker 3: a bus route, that are attached to major shopping districts
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  Speaker 3: and commercial districts, schools and all of that, if we
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  Speaker 3: can't build mid to even high rise intensification in those corridors,
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  Speaker 3: that we can't do it anywhere. So of course Cabana
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  Speaker 3: is going to see intensification because the capacity is there
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  Speaker 3: for it for it to go forward and make sense
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  Speaker 3: and have minimal negative impact. If you actually look at
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  Speaker 3: the data and you care about what that analysis is.
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  Speaker 3: The traffic impact more than manageable given the given the
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  Speaker 3: capacity that exists along the corridor. And again there's all
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  Speaker 3: of those other amenities. This is where so Comanda is
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  Speaker 3: where you are most likely to see intensification because all
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  Speaker 3: of the services that need to be there are already
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  Speaker 3: in place, and the Mayor's right, there will be intensification
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  Speaker 3: and the developers and it's not that the city is
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  Speaker 3: really going to drive it.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be the developers.
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  Speaker 3: Who will come forward to the city with reasonable applications
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  Speaker 3: for rezoning along the corridor. It'll go through a vetting
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  Speaker 3: process to make sure it checks all of the boxes
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  Speaker 3: that it needs to check from a land use in
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  Speaker 3: planning perspective and infrastructre your capacity perspective, and a building perspective,
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  Speaker 3: and then they'll go forward as long as they meet
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  Speaker 3: all of those criteria.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the process that we have. Just we can't
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  Speaker 1: remain stagnant and have a mentality of everything is chiseled
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  Speaker 1: and stone and nothing can change, Peter. That makes for
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  Speaker 1: a society that doesn't progress. We know that we need more.
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  Speaker 5: Housing, absolutely, and I think that what we have here
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  Speaker 5: at the municipality. And I can tell you I've had
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  Speaker 5: cases against the City of Windsor, I've worked with the
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  Speaker 5: City Windsor. I've always been impressed with the people in
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  Speaker 5: the administration, They do their homework, they work with consultants.
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  Speaker 5: Just just recently we had that wonderful consultant come in
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  Speaker 5: from out of town, Jeff Speck, who did that fantastic
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  Speaker 5: thing talking about walkable You know, you know cities, and
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  Speaker 5: there's all kinds of great ideas and resources out there
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  Speaker 5: that we can latch onto. These decisions are not made
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  Speaker 5: just on the fly. There's a lot of effort that
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  Speaker 5: goes into them. You know, everything from you know public
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  Speaker 5: works looking at you know, capacity issues, to at like
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  Speaker 5: the density issues, how they're dealt with, and a great
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  Speaker 5: legal department that looks and covets their role with respect
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  Speaker 5: to how we're going to roll this out to make
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  Speaker 5: sure that everyone is taken care of. It can't be
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  Speaker 5: one of these nimby issues where we say no, not
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  Speaker 5: in my backyard. You can put this someplace else if
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  Speaker 5: it fits and if it works. Everybody has to work together.
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  Speaker 5: You can't just think about yourself. You have to think
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  Speaker 5: about community. We all have to think about community, you know,
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and ten percent.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you can also think about community through a selfish
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  Speaker 1: lens as well. If you are someone who has a
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  Speaker 1: kid who lives in the city and you want to
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: see them ever be able to afford a home. We're
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: going to need to build more homes, or you could
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I suppose do the thing that some levels of the
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: government to doing and just waiting for, you know, a
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: mass demographic change.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't know if that John, when I chaired
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  Speaker 5: the Chamber of Commerce, you know, several years ago, I
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: wrote a piece in the Windsor Star and I was
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: losing a daughter to the GTA because you couldn't find
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: work down here, and I said, I'd like to live
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: in a community where our children have choices either to
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: stay or go. Let them make that choice. Let's create
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  Speaker 5: those opportunities for people.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be great. Hey six, we're gonna bring your voice
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  Speaker 1: in when we get back after the break. I'm sorry
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: that I got to keep you sitting there in the
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  Speaker 1: corner all by yourself, but that's the way she goes sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Nine to twenty seven. Will be back right after this.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Thursday round Table on the on the Dam
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  Speaker 1: McDonald show. I'm John Lyd keeper back after this. Hey,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: We're back, John Letty here on AMA hundred CLW. It
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: is the Thursday Round Table joined around the table by
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Kary mackenzie Ward nine, counselor, Peter Harassvic lawyer, author, poet,
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  Speaker 1: laureate the City of Windsor for the next three years
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: still through twenty twenty seven, six Langman, photographer, municipal rabble
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: rouser six. I'll bring you in real quickly, just to
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: tie up the bow on that last segment we were
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: talking about when it comes to housing. Don't want to
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: leave you without getting your point across. Do we need
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: more houses?
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  Speaker 2: Yep? Absolutely, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: On to the next I mean, honestly, six as of
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: right would be good. Four as of right, Yeah, I
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: think I think we need more housing. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: no matter what I've kind of said in the past,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: because I've been very vocal about it, I think hearing
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  Speaker 4: the fact, like you know, at least the mayor is
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: moving a little bit more towards like just admitting that
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: we need some densification. You know, maybe this is going
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: to be a little bit more of a of a
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  Speaker 4: push in that direction.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to see it faster.
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  Speaker 4: I mean again, living in Vancouver for fifteen years, I
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: watched you know, when I lived in an apartment building,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I watched a whole apartment building be built within a year,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: you know, right out by window. And the speed at
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: which they move and they build buildings and they change
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: neighborhoods is it's mind blowing. And here, you know, this
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Cabana Road construction is on its wet night yere like
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's multi phased.
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  Speaker 3: And then once once we finished, once we finished the
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Cabana Division road project, we're going to start on County
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Road forty two basically from Walker all the way to
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  Speaker 3: the end. So by the time it's finished, that whole
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: stretch of road it goes but depending on where you are,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: it's all one road. But there's three different names for it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: It'll probably be good fifteen almost twenty years that will
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: have been working on that Ryeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I you know, I was born in Leamington,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: grew up in Whealy, so I mean the expansion of
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  Speaker 4: the Highway three out to that area been talked about
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  Speaker 4: for years and years and years, and you know, I'd
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  Speaker 4: like to see those things move faster. And I know
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  Speaker 4: that there's you know, due process and everything, but just money.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: The population growth is not going to slow because because
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: we don't have you know, that's that's what it's going
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: to move forward. So we need more homes than we
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: needed faster.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know something else that we also need in
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: the community, and we have such great people who contribute
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: is charity. And we are a community that really runs
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: off of charity in so many different ways. And we're
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: seeing right now that the Show Us Your Brave event
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  Speaker 1: raised three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars more than that,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: excuse me, And that was a repelling event. Ninety people
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: went down the side of the CIBC building downtown for
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the Windsor Cancer Center Foundation campaign for They're over the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Edge Urban Repelling event. They're the company that puts it on.
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  Speaker 1: I went down the side of Caesars once. Now, ever
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  Speaker 1: again would I do something like that. I find other
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: ways now to contribute and give back and to charity. Gosh,
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  Speaker 1: God bless everyone who goes down the side of the building.
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone should do it once and if you
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: can do it a second time, you are much better
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  Speaker 1: than me. Hey, Peter. Obviously, charity very important here in
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  Speaker 1: our community, and I just as I guess, I just
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: wanted to literally start things off there. And what are
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  Speaker 1: some charities that you really enjoy and what are some
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  Speaker 1: causes that you think are important?
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  Speaker 5: Well, John, You're absolutely right. First off, this is one
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  Speaker 5: of the most giving communities in Canada. There's statistics on that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: It's amazing how how much support there is. You know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: in the winter months, the fall and winter months, there's
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: it's like a cult galaxies and there's all kinds of
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: galleys and then all the golf tournaments that come up
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: in the spring in the summer to raise money for
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: various causes. For me, personally, I'm very active with my
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Rotor Club of Windsor nineteen eighteen and we do a
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: lot of you know, charitable work there too. I think
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: that I'm personally interested in right now and it started
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: actually today today is the the Great Canadian Cycle Challenges,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: a Great cycle Challenge raising money for six Children's hospital.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Now we raise money for our local hospitals and that's
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: great too, but these are the kids who from all
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: over Canada, they go to Toronto for the special treatments
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: they need for some of these kids cancers that are
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: just absolutely awful. This is my sixth year of doing
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: that and you know, you ember to see me repel
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  Speaker 5: down a building. You know, I repel the thought, but
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you, but I'll be out there in the
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: early morning hours and taking my chances with city traffic
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: riding my bike to raise money. We started actually today
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  Speaker 5: so so so again. But there's so many good causes,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: so many good charities. It seems that anybody with a laptop,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: you know, can start some kind of a fundraiser and
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: look at all the GoFundMe things that we see as
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: well too. But you got to pick and choose and
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: be careful in terms of that because a lot of
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: times they ask you for you know, you know, credit cards,
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: you know, over they got to make sure it's a
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: safe site and things like that. That's always a big
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: concern because some people are reluctant to get involved. But
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  Speaker 5: I think we have to continue to support charities and
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  Speaker 5: support a lot of the local charities because this is
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: another way of taking care of our community.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. So how about yourself, sex, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to charities and Windsor and you know
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  Speaker 1: the causes.
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  Speaker 2: That we have Windsor and surrounding area. Can I do that?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 4: Because I've been involved in the media side doing photos
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  Speaker 4: and videos for the Hogs for Hospice, which is you know,
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  Speaker 4: coming up again this weekend and they raise a lot
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: of money for here reshore hereshoors. Yeah, and I think
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  Speaker 4: it's important. I'm definitely not going to be dropping down
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  Speaker 4: the side of a building though, you know, I think
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  Speaker 4: there are other things that I could probably do without
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: causing a heart attack for myself. So I think you
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: had a segment, you know, it was just earlier, it
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: was two days ago, and talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Charity and donating.
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  Speaker 4: Time and service and yeah, like the statistics of this city.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of being a huge charity.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we raise a lot of money and this
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  Speaker 4: is where this is where it kind of is is
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  Speaker 4: a great part to be proud of.
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  Speaker 2: The community that you come from. So I like seeing
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  Speaker 2: those things, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, hogs for hospice, the Ride Don't Hide, which you know,
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  Speaker 4: Dave Hunter who passed a friend of mine, you know,
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  Speaker 4: having those sort of things around for the you know,
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  Speaker 4: Canadian Mental Health Association. You know you mentioned that even
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  Speaker 4: my small little record documentary when we did the release
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  Speaker 4: at the Capitol Theater, all the funds that were raised
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  Speaker 4: for that went to the CMHA as well. So I
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: mean even you know, little tiny events like like mine,
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  Speaker 4: and then all the way up to the large events
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  Speaker 4: like hogs for Hospice. It's great to see in our area.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, So how about your self, counselor.
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  Speaker 3: I've done a lot of work, actual professional work in
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  Speaker 3: the charitable sector. There's two charities that I've worked for
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  Speaker 3: and sat on boards for, specifically a Big Brothers Big
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Sisters of Windsor Essex is an organization that I've I've
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  Speaker 3: been involved with for for a long long time.
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  Speaker 2: And so let me just say this about.
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  Speaker 3: Charitable work and the financial support is absolutely crucial, and
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  Speaker 3: it's amazing that people dedicate their lives to facilitating those
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  Speaker 3: the opportunity for people to donate to worthy causes, the
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  Speaker 3: volunteers as well, the people that support those organizations and
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: and and many of them support them financially and volunteer.
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  Speaker 3: Some folks may not be in a position to be
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  Speaker 3: able to support them in a financial way, but they
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  Speaker 3: donate their time, they donate their expertise, and their their
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: their passion to supporting these causes. And that's one of
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  Speaker 3: the things when I, you know, Peter talked about our
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: community is such a giving community. It's there's there's all
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: of that that and you witness it in all of
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: these different charitable organizations than the work that they do.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, there's any number of organizations and different
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: type of different types of initiatives that uh that, uh
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  Speaker 3: that that you can talk about and things that are
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  Speaker 3: supported in our community. Just every time I see it
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  Speaker 3: and have the chance to participate and support in one
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  Speaker 3: way or another. It the the humanness of charitable work
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  Speaker 3: really really moves me and compels me. Is why I
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: work in the sector on a professional level as well.
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  Speaker 3: So it just constantly amazed by what we do and
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  Speaker 3: how giving we are in this community.
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  Speaker 1: It constantly blows me away when you see stories about
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: oh wow, look what happened. The hospital was able to
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: go and purchase a brand new machine or equipment or
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: diagnostic because of fundraising that happened in our community, or
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: there is a new series of houses that have been
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: built from the Community Housing Group because of donations. I mean,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: we know that Windsor is like the most economically depressed
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: city in the country quite frankly, like things are tough
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people here. The disparity and income
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: between those who have the most to those who are
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: trying to just get by is incredibly vast between the two.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And it is the charitableness of our community that helps
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: so many just get through their days quite frankly, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: helps put it over their heads and foods on, food
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  Speaker 1: on their plates, and enriches the community as a whole.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, charity's great.
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  Speaker 3: I could just mention one, John, the United Way, And
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the reason I want to single them out is because
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: they're that or The United Way supports so many different
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: organizations across the community and across sort of a bit
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: of a spectrum of different types of initiatives. So you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: you want to talk about who, where are the where
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the where are the do gooders? The United Way is
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: a good place to start.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: That is such an important point. We're going to put
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a pin in this right now, take a quick break.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: When we get back on the other side, we'll keep
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: this conversation going with Ward nine, Councilor, Kieran McKenzie, Peter
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Harassvic lawyer, author and poet laureate, as well as rabble
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: rouser and photographer six Langman. I'm John Lydkey. We're back
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: right after this and we just hey, we're back, John.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Here am eight hundred CLW we're wrapping up the eight
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: hundred the Few round table on this Thursday. We've got
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: joined around the table counselor Kieran McKenzie, Peter Peter Harassvic,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: as well as six Langman Hey. So, former President Donald
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Trump yesterday decided to have a bit of a Q
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and A with the National Association of Black Journalists, and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the conversation kind of went exactly I think as many
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: people would presume that it did. It really got into
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a weird place though, where former President Trump. I'll just
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna read the quote. I
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: don't need to tee this up at all. Quote. I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: didn't know she referring to Kamala Harris, the Vice president.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't know she was black until a number of
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: years ago when she happened to turn black, and now
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: she wants to be known as black. So I don't know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: is she Indian or is she black? What the heck
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: is going on down South six? Like, I mean, it's Trump, right,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: we expect weirdness from him, but like this is really weird.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: We mean, turn black. I don't know why I'm asking you,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: as in his head, yeah, I know, I mean, Trump
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: broke the world period.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I honestly think that. I mean, we had Reagan had
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: another kind of Hollywood star. I mean, we have somebody
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: who understands the theatrics of like media and wanting to
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: be out there and like say the stupidest things in
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: order to get like essentially ratings. You know, politics aren't
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: the way they were prior to Trump. There is like
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: no longer a respect for for one another. It just
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: seems like it's a bashing of bashing, a bashing and
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: a bunch of name calling. And I hope that, honestly
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the population down south wakes up just a little bit
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: and does not vote that way. I think that statement
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: is pretty ignorant and rude. I mean, I didn't know
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: he was orange until he turned orange, you know, so.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, what a what a what a what a guy?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: That guy is?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Hey, what a guy, Peter. I want to bring your
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: voice in as the poet laureate. You know, your your
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: job in that capacity is to bring people together through storytelling,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: through poetry, through art, and that whole idea. And I'm
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: not at all trying to link that directly to Donald Trump,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: other than in the sense of this what he said
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: is the opposite of bringing people together. Yeah, and I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: just I wonder what you think about, you know, from
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: your role about having to try to bring people together
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: through your artwork, what you think about the state of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: things right now when you you know, here's some comments.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: We don't have to focus on the Trump thing. Just
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: politics is it's heated these days.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: I think that a person who's in a position of
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: leadership has to act like a leader, has to stand
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: rise tall in that capacity, not to be better than
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: anyone else or when I say tall above everybody. They
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: have to be able to embrace, you know again, talk
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: about embracing our community, embracing the role they play with
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: respect to that one individual. I remember Howard Stern wants,
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: you know, talking about this on the Stephen Colbert Show,
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: when he was asked by Trump to and there and
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: the apparently their friends to endorse them, you know, for
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: the for the role. And he says no. He says,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: he says, you just don't you want the title, you
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: don't want to do the job. There's a difference, and
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: it's about doing the job. Apparently, as the story goes,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Trump hung up on him. Uh as I recall the story,
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: But but that doesn't matter. The fact the matter is
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: he was right. Stern was right. It doesn't matter what
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: the role is. If you're going to be a leader,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: you have to rise to the occasion. You have to
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: be all encompassing and be something for everyone. So this
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: isn't a question America, as I would say it if
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: they if they were to ask me, not a question
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: of whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. It's a
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: question of what do we need at this particular time,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: and who's going to lead us and do that specific
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: job and ensure that surrounding them they have the best
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: people as well too, because this is a community effort.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: It's not just just the one role. It's being able
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: to to to to to lead, to dictate, but also
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: to to absorb and embrace the information that you get
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: from from the right people, you know, who surround you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: That's true leadership. I don't see, you know, this happening,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: you know, with Donald Trump and with especially with his comments.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: And I know some people might pillary beat me for that,
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: but I'm entitled in my opinion just like everyone else's.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: But that conduct yesterday, I mean, that's just typical of
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: what we've heard for years and years and years, and
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: if it's to draw attention, he certainly did, but for
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: all the wrong reasons, and to me, that was absolutely shameful.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Act presidential, Act presidential.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: That's a good place to leave that. Hey, Karen, will
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: bring your voice in on this one. Just I mean
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: from an elected officials position, I can't imagine what it
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: looks like on either one of your two cell phones
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that you carry around at all times or your inboxes.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Things are getting heated, Things are always tense. Social media,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I think, is a very big contributor. Everyone wants that
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: dopamine hit. And if that means, hey, making Kieran look
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: bad today, I'm going to go yell at you in
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: a group on Facebook and hope that I get a
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: bunch of likes on that and I'll show.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: You so, you know, abhorrent behavior from an abhorrent individual
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: who's in a who has an extremely huge who has
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: a massive platform. And to Peter's point about leadership, it's
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: it's it matters. It matters a great deal, and people,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: i think, to a certain extent, take their cues from
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: the things that they hear from the people that they
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: perceive our leaders and it you know, that's you cite
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: that one example, and but you know we I can
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: bring that down to you know, the local level. There's
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  Speaker 3: many many times, even around the council table or the
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  Speaker 3: commentary that we see in the community, around different things
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  Speaker 3: we talked about, for example, the the discussion even on
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  Speaker 3: things that are good that are happening, like a public
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  Speaker 3: art unveiling for acknowledging the diversity in our community, and
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  Speaker 3: somehow that turns into something that's not a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that that's a function of a certain
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  Speaker 3: level of distrust that's been built up, that's been built
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  Speaker 3: up for.
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  Speaker 2: A long time.
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  Speaker 3: And to Six's point, the person we started talking about
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  Speaker 3: broke the system.
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  Speaker 2: I think you certainly put things on a.
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  Speaker 3: Path that you could trace where we are today. And
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  Speaker 3: that level of distrust for the institutions that really are
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  Speaker 3: supposed to bind us uh and and facilitate us coming
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  Speaker 3: together and doing great things, it's it's it's slowly, it's
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  Speaker 3: had I think a negative impact, a significant negative impact
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  Speaker 3: in our communities and our ability to come together and
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  Speaker 3: find common ground on the issues where we may have
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  Speaker 3: some disagreement, there's opportunities to find agreement within that and
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  Speaker 3: it's more of a challenge now because of individuals.
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  Speaker 2: Like the one that we're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's leave this conversation there. I appreciate all of
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  Speaker 1: your comments on it. Time for us to shift gears
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  Speaker 1: into our plugged in segment where we let everyone around
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  Speaker 1: the table shout something out that they think needs some attention. Peter,
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  Speaker 1: I'll bring you in first.
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  Speaker 5: Super Thank you very much. Well tonight August first at
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  Speaker 5: Ottimus Park. Uh, the you know off of V Prey.
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  Speaker 5: That's the the one of another the Jazz in the
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  Speaker 5: Park series that christ and Ciappis and Val put on
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  Speaker 5: the what are they're called? They're called the oh my god,
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  Speaker 5: just just cake production. Sorry, yes, it's the Coffee House Combo.
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  Speaker 5: They're fabulous. That starts at six o'clock tonight and it's
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  Speaker 5: a great family it's a free event. But consider making
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  Speaker 5: a small donation, even five dollars helps them, you know,
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  Speaker 5: promote you know, concerts you know in the future. And
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  Speaker 5: the other thing that I mentioned earlier, the Great Cycle
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  Speaker 5: Challenge for Sick Kids Hospital. If you go on there,
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  Speaker 5: look me up as a writer Peter Rostovic hr A
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  Speaker 5: S T O V E C. And consider making a donation.
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  Speaker 5: Donation you get a tax receipt and I'll be doing
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  Speaker 5: three hundred kilometers this month. That's what good for my
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  Speaker 5: sore knees and hopefully helping these kids in the cause.
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  Speaker 1: Three hundred kilometers this month. Yeah, that's wild. I've been
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  Speaker 1: doing a lot of walks and I I'm at like
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  Speaker 1: four hundred for the year, so that Peter really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go real, put myself into high gear six.
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  Speaker 1: How about you? What needs to be plugged in?
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  Speaker 4: We have Pride coming up and that happens on Ottawa Street.
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  Speaker 4: I happen to handle like social media and trying to
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  Speaker 4: get that information out there. So Pride Weekend, we have
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  Speaker 4: the Pride Walk on Ottawa Street on Saturday, so there's
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  Speaker 4: a tent sale in collaboration with Pride Fest. The vendors
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  Speaker 4: and merchants so Ottawa Street, so they'd be a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of people selling their goods. We'll have some entertainment. I
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  Speaker 4: think we have two areas of the closed Ottawa Street.
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  Speaker 4: There'll be two stages, different different entertainers kind of rotating
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  Speaker 4: through the day refreshments. We are also refreshing the Pride
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  Speaker 4: crosswalks and the paint. So big shout out to that,
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  Speaker 4: we are also accepting vendors I think until tomorrow night,
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  Speaker 4: so we have only five more spaces for vendors to
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  Speaker 4: apply for those very cheap twenty five dollars for your
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  Speaker 4: your booth, and you can be there from I think
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  Speaker 4: seven thirty in the morning until six at night on Saturday,
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  Speaker 4: August the tenth, for the Pride Walk.