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Claude Cowork Was Built By Anthropic's AI in 10 Days. Now It Can Do Your Job · In the Loop AI

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Ejaaz: This is going to break your brain. An AI model just built another AI model,
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Ejaaz: and it's probably the most important software launch in 2026,
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Ejaaz: worth billions of dollars.
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Ejaaz: I'm talking about Anthropic's latest tool called Claude Cowork.
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Ejaaz: It's basically vibe coding for everyone who isn't a coder.
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Ejaaz: And when you realize what this means for knowledge workers, you'll start to
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Ejaaz: realize why Anthropic is quietly the most important company in the world right now.
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Ejaaz: The way it works is you just connect it to your desktop or your browser and
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Ejaaz: you just explain in plain, simple English what you want it to do.
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Ejaaz: And the examples are pretty crazy. People have already used it to turn on their oven.
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Ejaaz: People are using it to monitor their plant growing by their windowsill,
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Ejaaz: as well as tidying up their desktop and even replacing their nine to five job.
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Ejaaz: It's doing the entire thing for them. And we'll get to that later on.
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Ejaaz: But it brings into question whether this is the end of jobs as we know it today,
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Ejaaz: or whether this marks the start of a new era where AI and humans basically do everything together.
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Josh: Yeah, it's hard to understate how profound the shift is. And I relate it to
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Josh: something that's very near and dear to me, which is photography.
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Josh: And you could kind of relate this to how,
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Josh: in early days the smartphone it kind of democratized photography where
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Josh: suddenly everyone was a photographer the bar to become
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Josh: one was low the cost of entry was very low and claude
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Josh: code work is doing the same for automation suddenly everyone
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Josh: goes from a novice at code to a full-blown system engineer just based on a single
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Josh: human-made prompt so previous ai assistants they were like having a really smart
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Josh: person on the phone they could give you advice but you still had to do the work
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Josh: claude code is kind of like having that person physically in your office with
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Josh: access to your files, your browser, and your tools.
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Josh: And then as I was going down this automation rabbit hole, and to your point
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Josh: about job automation, it led me to a study that shared that the average knowledge
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Josh: worker, they spend 28% of their work week managing emails and 20% searching for information.
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Josh: So that's nearly half of their team's work now that CloudCode can handle.
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Josh: Okay, so before we get into how this tool works, there's a really important
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Josh: story to tell about an unexpected surprise, Anthropic Discovered,
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Josh: which led them to building this product.
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Josh: So CloudCode, it launched originally in May 2025 as a terminal coding agent.
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Josh: Very intimidating, very difficult, very confusing for non-technical users.
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Josh: Less than six months later, that product was at a billion dollars of ARR.
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Josh: It's 10 times the usage. It grew 10x in three months, and it went completely
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Josh: viral. It was the fastest startup in the world to go from zero to a billion ARR.
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Josh: Companies like Netflix, Salesforce, KPMG, everyone was using it,
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Josh: and it was the biggest thing in the world.
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Josh: And software developers were starting to use CloudCode for other things.
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Josh: They got really comfortable, so they started using it for things like canceling
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Josh: subscriptions, tidying up their emails, vacation research, monitoring the plant
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Josh: growth, and turning on remote things in their house like ovens or lights.
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Josh: And it became a full-stack automation software. The problem was is that Cloud
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Josh: Code wasn't really built for this.
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Josh: But when users bend your product to do something you didn't originally design
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Josh: it to, that's normally a pretty high signal indicator of a problem that you
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Josh: need to solve for. So that's exactly what Anthropic did.
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Josh: Or rather, that's what Claude Code did because it built Claude Co-Work to do
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Josh: vibe coding for everything that isn't coding in 10 days with a team of four
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Josh: people written 100% autonomously.
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Josh: So it was this pretty amazing unlock that happened over the course of the last 10 days.
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Josh: And here we're seeing on screen the post from Boris, the founder himself,
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Josh: and how he confirmed that it actually was 100% built autonomously.
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Josh: And I think maybe we should double tap on that and see how exactly they were
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Josh: able to accomplish this.
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Ejaaz: Yeah, I mean, this is the craziest part of the entire tool, by the way.
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Ejaaz: It's the fact that it was built by another AI completely autonomously,
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Ejaaz: or rather with the aid of four humans, but they didn't really do anything.
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Ejaaz: They just kind of like acted as cloud code supervisor and just made sure it
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Ejaaz: was on the right track. And it only took a week and a half.
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Ejaaz: Typically, if you wanted to build a product like this, Josh,
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Ejaaz: I'm guessing it would take like months using traditional software engineering techniques.
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Ejaaz: So it is one of the coolest things that kind of came out of this.
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Ejaaz: And it's a sign that in the future, some of the hit products are going to be built purely by AI.
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Ejaaz: But I want to get into Claude Cowork itself now, Josh, and kind of give everyone
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Ejaaz: an explanation as to what it is, the rundown of the key features.
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Ejaaz: And then I really want to get into some exciting demos.
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Josh: The examples are going to be really fun. We have some good examples.
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Josh: We're going to do some live demos for you guys.
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Ejaaz: Exactly, exactly. But before we do that, let me talk to you about Claude Cowork itself.
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Ejaaz: The way it works is you can give Claude Cowork access to your desktop,
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Ejaaz: a folder on your desktop, or a web browser.
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Ejaaz: And you basically just tell it what you want it to do in plain English.
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Ejaaz: So write out your prompt, hit enter.
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Ejaaz: Claude Cowork comes up with a plan. It shows you the plan. It says,
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Ejaaz: hey, this is what I'm going to do.
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Ejaaz: Are you cool with this? And you just click yes, no, or can you just change this bit?
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Ejaaz: And then you're all good. Off you go. And then that's it.
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Ejaaz: Go for a walk, go make yourself a coffee. Hey, go watch a Netflix episode.
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Ejaaz: It's all done. And you come back literally 10 minutes, an hour later,
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Ejaaz: and suddenly all those tasks that you've been putting off for the last year,
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Ejaaz: It's me, I'm talking about me, is completely done.
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Ejaaz: And the way that all of this is enabled is pretty cool. They've got some nifty features here.
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Ejaaz: It's built on the same software stack that Claude Code is.
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Ejaaz: So it works very similarly to Claude Code, but it's for non-technical people.
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Ejaaz: You don't need to download a command-lined interface. You don't need to know
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Ejaaz: how to code. you just type in plain English and it's done.
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Ejaaz: The second thing is it runs on a sandboxed virtual environment.
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Ejaaz: What that means is when it operates your desktop, when it operates your web
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Ejaaz: browser, it's in its own environment in order to do that.
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Ejaaz: So it's siloed to the particular folder that you give it access to.
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Ejaaz: It can't just go rampant and start accessing anything and everything.
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Ejaaz: You specify what you want it to completely.
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Ejaaz: And then the final thing is you can pair it with your browser,
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Ejaaz: which means that you can do a bunch of web-based tasks, which Claude plugin
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Ejaaz: already allows you to do.
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Ejaaz: And so on its face value, this sounds interesting, right?
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Ejaaz: But like, I want to know what it can actually do in practice.
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Ejaaz: And some of the examples that I've seen so far and that I'm about to show you are pretty fun to do.
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Josh: Yes. And I want to start with these examples, particularly the first one in
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Josh: this post, which we're going to do live, which is a cleaning up of your desktop.
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Josh: So, EJS, you are notorious for having a slightly less than clean desktop.
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Josh: And it is normally full of content that most people wouldn't want cluttering up their desktop.
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Josh: So, what we have prepared is an actual prompt with Cloud Code that we will use
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Josh: to organize this desktop as a live demo and just kind of show you how Cowork works in the desktop.
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Josh: Production yeah so here's a live view for the unfortunate viewers
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Josh: who are watching on spotify or youtube of what this desktop looks
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Josh: like and he just i've just shared with you a prompt that i've actually
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Josh: worked with claude to create so this is the way
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Josh: i would advise everyone use it is instead of using your own prompts prompt the
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Josh: llm to create a full prompt that captures the entire scope of what you're looking
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Josh: for what this does is it will organize your desktop into a series of different
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Josh: folders based on productivity inbox projects finance and it will run checks
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Josh: to make sure that it's doing the right thing,
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Josh: make sure that it doesn't write the, delete the wrong files.
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Josh: And it will include organized file names as a way to index everything alphabetically.
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Josh: So it'll keep things very organized.
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Josh: And he created this, I mean, it's a fairly detailed prompt. There's a lot going
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Josh: on here. So if you paste this into Claude Cowork, you should see it start to
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Josh: get to work here and start actually
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Josh: organizing the files on your desktop without you touching anything.
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Ejaaz: All right, Josh, listen, I won't lie to you. I'm a little nervous about what
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Ejaaz: this is going to do to my desktop. What happens if your computer breaks?
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Josh: If the recording ends right here.
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Ejaaz: How do I know like Claude's not trying to nefariously get involved kind of maliciously here?
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Ejaaz: On our previous episode, we proved that or we suggested that it might be more aware than we think.
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Josh: Anyway, Claude was very high on the scheming index in our last episode.
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Ejaaz: So what you guys are looking at now is the main interface for Claude Cowork.
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Ejaaz: If you have a Claude Max plan, you have this neat little tab now on your desktop
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Ejaaz: app, which allows you to access Claude Cowork. and it starts off with a pretty
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Ejaaz: neat prompt which is let's knock something off your list and it gives you a bunch of ideas.
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Ejaaz: What I'm going to do is I'm going to paste that prompt which Josh created using
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Ejaaz: Claude into here to tidy up my desktop and you'll notice this little folder
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Ejaaz: section this drop down menu here where it says work in a folder.
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Ejaaz: I'm going to specify that it works in my desktop and I'm going to say allow
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Ejaaz: for this particular case because I don't quite trust it just yet. And let's go.
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Josh: Okay, so now how's this thing so we can kind of walk through how the best ways
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Josh: to interface with this are are.
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Josh: Which is plan, execute, and update. So the first stage that we did was the planning
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Josh: stage where I kind of prompted Claude to create a larger prompt.
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Josh: That was planning that outlined the scope of things.
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Josh: And then it's going to execute, which is the phase that we're seeing now.
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Josh: And then you can actually decide to update and you could push the update live to your machine.
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Josh: And we might want to take a peek at your desktop because it might be doing it right now.
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Josh: And that's the loop that happens with this. That's the recursive loop.
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Josh: It's the plan, execute, and update, which mirrors how a good human assistant works.
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Josh: They don't just do things. They show their work. they check in and they course
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Josh: correct as they go to make sure that the model doesn't drift as it goes on these
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Josh: long complex chain of thought processes.
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Ejaaz: And what I like about this step in particular is it doesn't just plan and then execute immediately.
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Ejaaz: It gets the humans not of approval first, which is very important towards like
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Ejaaz: AI working with humans in the future.
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Ejaaz: A few things I want to point out. It understood the prompt, it created a plan,
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Ejaaz: and it did this in its command online interface in its coded identified
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Ejaaz: what it needs to do and it gives you me
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Ejaaz: a little summary here it says you have 27 screenshots many older than
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Ejaaz: 90 days several pdfs 15 folders images
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Ejaaz: and media files and an installer claude would you like me to proceed with the
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Ejaaz: dry run as josh.eats prompt described so it even knows that you sent this to
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Ejaaz: me that's freaking hilarious uh so i'm just going to be like yes run it see
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Ejaaz: what happens and it works pretty quickly i think we're going to see this happen
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Ejaaz: in a second.
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Josh: Really quickly. And while it does this, maybe I could describe a different example
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Josh: that I used personally recently with Cloud Cowork.
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Josh: And it's, I use a tool called Obsidian, which is a markdown note-taking application.
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Josh: So the app is basically a harness for markdown files that organizes them in
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Josh: a really unique way that connects them via backlinks.
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Josh: And it's kind of messy. There's just a lot of notes kind of spread out everywhere.
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Josh: But because Cloud can ingest markdown files, it was able to ingest all of the
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Josh: notes that I've made over the last three or four years and then draw unique
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Josh: insights from them and organize them in a unique way.
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Josh: And it's a really nice file management system in a way that I would never have tried to tackle myself.
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Josh: So that's been fun. If we're looking at the process here, what is going on?
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Josh: It's doing a lot of stuff.
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Ejaaz: And it's doing it, if you noticed, in rapid speed. So basically,
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Ejaaz: it's identified all the files and folders that are on my desktop,
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Ejaaz: and it's created a bunch of categories that were You might wind up
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Josh: With a lot of folders.
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Ejaaz: I think you're just going to make my life better, but also worse.
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Ejaaz: And so we have a bunch of file moves that it's already actively doing, active projects.
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Ejaaz: You can see here what it's actually doing. And what I like about it is it is
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Ejaaz: just obliterating this.
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Ejaaz: It's given me a few that it needs to review. So this is a cool point to make, which is,
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Ejaaz: Typically, when people are uncertain about using these AI products,
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Ejaaz: it's because they don't trust it and that they think the AI model is going to
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Ejaaz: do something that they don't want it to.
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Ejaaz: Claude Cowork has a context about what those things might be.
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Ejaaz: And instead of doing it, prompts you to say, hey, you need to give me an idea
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Ejaaz: of what you want to do with this.
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Ejaaz: There's a movie folder that you have a bunch of movies that you watch on the
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Ejaaz: plane with. Is there something you want me to do with this?
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Josh: So type approve to proceed with these changes. And in fact, you may not want
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Josh: to approve this because this is going to create 16 folders. So perhaps you want
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Josh: to prompt it to compress that into four or five of the most common categories.
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Josh: That way it will actually organize it into a way that doesn't add more folders,
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Josh: it actually compresses things.
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Josh: So maybe, yeah, choose the four or five most common themes among the folders.
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Josh: And it will apply some more smart thinking to that and generate you something
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Josh: a little more neat than 16 separate folders.
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Ejaaz: Actually, I've decided to disagree with you. Approve.
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Josh: Let's see what happens.
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Ejaaz: Let's get this bad boy going. Come on. I want to see this done live.
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Josh: So while we're waiting, what other fun use cases have you seen?
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Ejaaz: Okay, so another fun use case that I've seen, and I wish I had the example for
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Ejaaz: me on here, is someone, to his wife's disdain, lost their wedding photos.
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Ejaaz: And then he found it, but it was in a file that was corrupt and unreadable.
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Josh: This story was amazing.
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Ejaaz: It was an amazing story. So what he did was he went to the original photography
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Ejaaz: company and they said, hey, this is the software that we officially use.
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Ejaaz: Download it and just run it to like get your wedding photos out.
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Ejaaz: One problem. It was a Windows only app and he has a MacBook.
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Ejaaz: So it never worked in the first place.
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Ejaaz: So he was like distraught. And then he realized, oh, I could use Claude Cowork to do this.
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Ejaaz: So he asked Claude Cowork to identify the file in his browser and then code up.
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Ejaaz: Sorry not in his browser in his desktop and code up a
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Ejaaz: custom made app just so he could access the photographs and josh i kid you not
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Ejaaz: two minutes later he had it running slicker and better than the actual official
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Ejaaz: software that the wedding provider gave it to him himself it's pretty insane
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Ejaaz: okay that's amazing organization complete complete are we ready for the grand
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Ejaaz: reveal like yeah take a peek drum roll please
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Ejaaz: oh nice wait that dude looking good what the hell that is actually insane and
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Ejaaz: what's the best part about that is all of you just got to saw that live pop
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Josh: Into something let's see what let's see how.
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Ejaaz: It did let's see what are we feeling it's wrong why is my inbox here okay let's
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Ejaaz: go into inbox okay it's got some random screenshots in there don't know why
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Ejaaz: that's done that uh projects
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Ejaaz: okay yes i love this because okay this is pretty cool because it's identified
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Ejaaz: separate hobby and projects that i actually work on in my spare time and what's
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Ejaaz: interesting about this is i have other folders that were on my desktop that
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Ejaaz: weren't projects but it was able to somehow identify that these were personal
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Ejaaz: hobbies and do this for myself that's freaking awesome we're we're one for one
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Ejaaz: right now we're one for two uh pick one more josh you see anyone that's getting you?
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Josh: Let's go with that second one.
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Ejaaz: Media?
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Josh: Yes, let's go with the media tab. What's in there?
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Ejaaz: Oh, Josh.
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Josh: Oh, look how adorable those guys are.
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Ejaaz: Look at us. I mean, come on.
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Josh: So it worked. That's a mission success. That is a really nice demo.
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Josh: And you could kind of think about how this scales out to larger corporations, right?
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Josh: There's this one crazy stat where the average employee spends two hours per
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Josh: month on expense reports, which is kind of an outrageous thing for a company
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Josh: of a thousand employees. That's 2,000 hours of productivity lost monthly.
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Josh: And something like Claude handles this with just OCR to read receipts,
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Josh: categorize expense based on vendors and the amounts. And there's so many ways
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Josh: in which you could automate a business.
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Josh: And there's this interesting example that I wanted to highlight,
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Josh: which was the spreadsheet and accountants in general, where if you remember
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Josh: not too long ago, before computers and calculators became a big thing,
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Josh: there were buildings full of people whose job it was to actually do math,
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Josh: to do long-form math, to calculate the accounting of a business.
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Josh: And that entire building of people got replaced by a single spreadsheet.
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Josh: And what's funny about these companies, and you think about MicroHard with XAI,
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Josh: their entire goal is to have photons in and then bits out in the terms of like
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Josh: building native and unique software.
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Josh: So if you think about a building full of humans in a spreadsheet today,
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Josh: the spreadsheet is far more efficient.
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Josh: But not only that, if you compare a spreadsheet that is 100% automated versus
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Josh: a spreadsheet that has a single cell that a human has to monitor,
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Josh: well, the single cell that a human has to monitor is going to compute much slower,
15:46
Josh: it's going to be a lot less accurate.
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Josh: It is going to just give you problems that an AI will not. And I think it's
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Josh: kind of a testament to how future companies will be structured.
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Josh: Because if you choose to do something like, let's say, expense reporting.
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Josh: And you don't use 100% AI for this, you don't use Claude Code or Claude Cowork
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Josh: to do something like this, well, anyone who does automate that part of the business
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Josh: will immediately unlock 2,000 additional productive hours.
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Josh: And this scales across the scope of pretty much any business that exists today,
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Josh: where so long as there is a verifiable outcome that you're looking towards,
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Josh: you can automate that in the world of bits at least.
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Josh: And this kind of plays out, you could see how this plays out over a long period
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Josh: of time. We're starting with bits where anything that you have to do on a computer.
16:31
Josh: Any bit of software can be automated so long as it has a verifiable outcome.
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Josh: Then the world of atoms comes next where, well, if you have to move physical
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Josh: objects, the cost of that comes down with human-eyed robots as we scale.
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Josh: And you start to see this job replacement type argument become a little more real.
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Josh: The other side of this, the flip side, is that accountants since computers have
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Josh: gone up, I think, 50 times.
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Josh: The amount of accountants that exist post-computer versus pre-computer has multiplied
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Josh: so much because of the Jevons paradox.
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Josh: I mean, now that there's an abundance of accounting capability,
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Josh: a lot more companies want this for their books.
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Josh: A lot more people want to, a lot more companies, one, exist,
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Josh: a lot more companies, two, are able to actually keep an accurate record of account.
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Josh: And the net-net is a positive. So while this probably reshuffles things around,
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Josh: I don't think the net is going to be as negative as a lot of people perceive.
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Ejaaz: Well, with that prompt, I kind of want to get on to the final part of this episode,
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Ejaaz: which is kind of like the bigger picture.
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Ejaaz: Where does this tool lead us? And I want to run through a few examples with you now.
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Ejaaz: So number one, I think this tool is going to be useful for millions of people.
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Ejaaz: And I really mean that versus a fad.
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Ejaaz: We've been sold a few lies from the likes of OpenAI and Google's agents,
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Ejaaz: which sound good in theory, but haven't really been productive.
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Ejaaz: This is something that my mom or sister can access today and it will add net
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Ejaaz: new value to their lives.
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Ejaaz: And some of the use cases that we've discussed already on the show is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Ejaaz: We haven't even fully explored what this tool can actually do at great lengths.
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Ejaaz: And if we were to hypothesize here and if it went the way that Claude Code did,
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Ejaaz: and I'm showing a tweet from Boris Churney where he described the creator of Claude Code,
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Ejaaz: where he describes the journey that Claude Code took, it started off slowly
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Ejaaz: and then super, super quickly.
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Ejaaz: My hypothesis is going to be an AI literally just wrote 100% of a tool that
18:25
Ejaaz: is going to be responsible for GDP's worth of economic value that is built on top of that.
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Ejaaz: And I don't think people have fully grasped how important that's going to be
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Ejaaz: for humanity in general.
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Ejaaz: The second thing, I need to throw a little bit of shade before we wind this episode up, Josh.
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Ejaaz: This tool was meant to be what Microsoft Copilot was going to be.
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Josh: We got to talk about Microsoft.
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Ejaaz: But instead, they spent one and a half years shipping absolute BS.
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Ejaaz: OpenAI dropped the ball completely when they should have been keeping tabs on Microsoft.
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Ejaaz: And Anthropic ate their lunch, or rather an AI model ate their lunch in 10 days,
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Ejaaz: a week and a half from scratch with four humans.
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Ejaaz: That is like a tiny fraction of a percent of Microsoft's entire workforce. Just insane.
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Josh: Yeah, so there's two points. On the FAD and the is this a FAD or not,
19:13
Josh: you can kind of put it through the utility test, which is,
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Josh: I mean, the difference between FADs and these real transformative tools over
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Josh: time is how you're able to use this over the course of your day,
19:24
Josh: over the daily work test.
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Josh: And these aren't really novel tasks. They're tasks that people actually need done repeatedly.
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Josh: So is it a FAD or not? No. I mean, this is what people need every day.
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Josh: And as this iterates, it's going to get better. On the Microsoft point,
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Josh: Microsoft has 220,000 employees and they had a three-year head start.
19:39
Josh: And what Anthropic did in 10 days with four people, fully assisted by AI,
19:42
Josh: is a testament to just how powerful it is and how unexpected I think it was
19:46
Josh: when you get a killer use case like this.
19:48
Josh: If you remember, ChatGPT was kind of an accident. It wasn't really supposed
19:51
Josh: to be the entire business of open AI.
19:54
Josh: A similar thing is happening with Anthropic and with, I guess,
19:58
Josh: companion agentic protocols because they certainly didn't expect this to be
20:02
Josh: as big as it was because they didn't have a large team on it.
20:05
Josh: In fact, after this went viral, they posted a bunch of job listings to join
20:09
Josh: this new kind of experimental team where they test these new things because
20:13
Josh: you never really know what that killer use case is going to look like.
20:15
Josh: And in the case of Anthropic, they've hit a home run. And it makes you wonder
20:20
Josh: what Microsoft is doing.
20:21
Josh: I mean, they have such a tremendous workforce. they have more money than they
20:24
Josh: know what to do with. And all they're doing is building data centers,
20:26
Josh: but have nothing to really show for it.
20:28
Ejaaz: And finally, the last two points I want to make is, okay, on the point of work,
20:33
Ejaaz: you kind of mentioned it, Josh, but I want to kind of like dig into like whether
20:36
Ejaaz: this is going to replace people's jobs entirely.
20:39
Ejaaz: The answer is kind of like yes
20:40
Ejaaz: and no, it's going to replace a bunch of knowledge work that people do.
20:43
Ejaaz: I'm showing this on the tweet that we have up here right now,
20:46
Ejaaz: where he describes he interacted with Claude co-work and two hours later he
20:50
Ejaaz: had done his entire week's worth of work so he didn't know what to do with himself
20:54
Ejaaz: when he logged on every day he didn't know what to tell his manager because
20:57
Ejaaz: all the work was done and he was just kind of like shipping it to him which was crazy
21:01
Ejaaz: it's reminiscent of a trend that I think we're going to continually see in 2026,
21:05
Ejaaz: which is something I'm calling recursive models or recursive language models.
21:10
Ejaaz: Basically, AI models are smart enough now to understand what humans actually
21:14
Ejaaz: want and to go and build it themselves.
21:17
Ejaaz: So previously, they had the tools to do it, but they were dumb.
21:20
Ejaaz: They kind of couldn't put context together.
21:22
Ejaaz: Now they have it. And we're seeing things like law code build tools like this,
21:26
Ejaaz: which I think are going to be worth billions of dollars, Josh.
21:28
Ejaaz: If it was its own startup, I think we're going to see one of the quickest ascents
21:32
Ejaaz: to a billion dollars in revenue. It might even be Claude Code.
21:35
Josh: I very strongly agree. Okay, so how do you try this? For Claude Code,
21:38
Josh: you need to get the Pro Plan, which is a $20 a month membership for Anthropic and Claude.
21:43
Josh: For Claude Co-Work, which is what we demoed today, that is their max plan.
21:47
Josh: That is $200 a month, which is a little more pricey. It's worth experimenting
21:50
Josh: at least with Claude Code.
21:51
Josh: I think as a person who is kind of working, if you're in the workforce today,
21:56
Josh: it helps to flex the muscle to reach for an agent versus reaching for the things
22:01
Josh: that you're used to, like Google or a manual work process.
22:04
Josh: And one of the things that I'm personally working on is figuring out,
22:07
Josh: how to retrain that muscle to know when to reach for the
22:10
Josh: ai to know when to reach for the agent and having cloud code
22:13
Josh: on my desktop on my phone it's been very useful in and
22:16
Josh: kind of massaging that muscle to so oh instead of going to google or watching
22:19
Josh: a tutorial i can actually just ask my agent to do it and it does it really well
22:22
Josh: so that's a fun practice i think maybe for the prompts today what cool stuff
22:26
Josh: if you have used these programs have you done what have you automated that we
22:30
Josh: should try because one of the most difficult things is figuring out where to apply this.
22:34
Josh: What part of your life can you actually improve?
22:37
Ejaaz: Extra points for creativity. For anyone, let us know what you've done,
22:41
Ejaaz: if you have access to this plan or to this product in the comments below.
22:46
Ejaaz: And please also, like, like, subscribe, and follow us because we're putting
22:51
Ejaaz: videos like this more and more.
22:52
Ejaaz: Josh and I are inspired by Cloud Coworks. We want to stop building apps,
22:56
Ejaaz: demos for you guys to show on the show.
22:57
Ejaaz: If that's something you're interested in seeing, please let us know because
23:00
Ejaaz: your feedback is very important for us.
23:02
Ejaaz: And Josh, I don't know what the time is, but we are trying to keep this tight
23:05
Ejaaz: under 25 minutes because it's on the latest resolution. We're close.
23:08
Ejaaz: I think we might've done it. So if there's nothing else to add from you, I think that's it.
23:12
Josh: That's a wrap. Thank you so much for watching. For the people who are regular
23:15
Josh: listeners, the roundup is coming early next week. There's just so much going
23:18
Josh: on this week that we wanted to cover.
23:19
Josh: We're gonna move the roundup to early next week. There's so much to be included
23:22
Josh: in that, along with things like Tesla autonomy, there's humans coming down from Earth.
23:27
Josh: There's a lot of stuff happening, so stay tuned for that. We will see you guys in the next one.