Latest / Best of Business / Simon Malpas: Kitea Health co-founder on the company winning spots on two FDA fast-track programmes
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- 0:17Speaker 2: Though. It's been a big start of the year for
- 0:19Speaker 2: Kiwi startup kitia here Health. The digital health company has
- 0:23Speaker 2: created a world first censorship which wirelessly measures fluid on
- 0:27Speaker 2: the brain. In the last three months, kitia has secured
- 0:31Speaker 2: a place in the FDA Fast Track Program, They've completed
- 0:35Speaker 2: a world first implanting one of their senses in the
- 0:37Speaker 2: brain of a child, and the company has opened up
- 0:40Speaker 2: to retail investors to raise capital. They're well on their
- 0:42Speaker 2: way to raising their funding target of ten million dollars.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Simon Malpass is the co founder of Kitia Health and
- 0:49Speaker 2: he joins me now, good morning, Goo, Good morning, Simon.
- 0:54Speaker 2: This is life saving technology. Talk me through why this
- 0:57Speaker 2: brain chip is so beneficial.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Yeah, so, people who have this conditioned hydrocephalist great, big
- 1:05Speaker 3: tough word, but it means too much fluid around the brain.
- 1:08Speaker 3: And it's what surgeons do is they place this tube
- 1:12Speaker 3: to drain this excess fluid from the brain to the stomach.
- 1:16Speaker 3: And that's all great, but it has the worst failure
- 1:19Speaker 3: rate of any medical device fifty percent of these tubes.
- 1:22Speaker 3: These shunts will fail in the first two years, and
- 1:25Speaker 3: the symptoms of when it fails are simply headache. Maybe
- 1:28Speaker 3: are feeling a bit unwell under the weather, and so
- 1:31Speaker 3: these poor people go after hospital repeatedly and it turns
- 1:34Speaker 3: out to be just a headache. So the problem is
- 1:37Speaker 3: there's no means to monitor the pressure within the brain,
- 1:40Speaker 3: and that's what we do for the very first time,
- 1:43Speaker 3: so these people can actually monitor their own brain pressure
- 1:46Speaker 3: at home and give guidance to themselves, their family and
- 1:49Speaker 3: physicians as to whether they're rarely got a life threatening
- 1:53Speaker 3: issue or it is just a headache.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Oh, guidance, and I imagine a huge amount of relief
- 1:58Speaker 2: as well.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Simon Ah, Yes, yes, we've met lots of families around
- 2:04Speaker 3: the motive who so you know, it's like we know
- 2:08Speaker 3: it train crash is going to happen, but we never
- 2:10Speaker 3: know when. And so what we do is we provide
- 2:13Speaker 3: guidance for those families, reducing anxiety, but also reductions in
- 2:18Speaker 3: the healthcare system costs because we reduce the needless hospitalizations,
- 2:23Speaker 3: the MRIs and the cts as well. So it's a
- 2:26Speaker 3: lot of positive impacts across the board.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Do you mind explaining to me sort of the size
- 2:33Speaker 2: of the chip and how it's implanted into the brain,
- 2:35Speaker 2: because it does sound a little bit scary, doesn't it.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely get it. It sounds very sci fi
- 2:41Speaker 3: and it is ten years of research in the University
- 2:44Speaker 3: of Auckland bio Engineering Institute before the company got started.
- 2:49Speaker 3: But it is based on semiconductor industry manufacturing about really
- 2:54Speaker 3: producing tiny, tiny glass microsensors that measure pressure. So it's
- 2:59Speaker 3: only point three of a gram and as such it
- 3:02Speaker 3: is the brain the world's smallest brain implant ever developed
- 3:06Speaker 3: at the moment, and we're so please to be in
- 3:11Speaker 3: our clinical trials in Auckland City Hospital treating treating kiwis.
- 3:16Speaker 3: So it's just a fantastic position to be in and
- 3:20Speaker 3: we just want to extend the trial next year around
- 3:23Speaker 3: the country and then around the world as well with
- 3:25Speaker 3: the FDA.
- 3:26Speaker 2: So talk to us about how the human trials are going.
- 3:29Speaker 2: How many people currently have these chips at the moment.
- 3:32Speaker 3: So we've finished all of the adults, they're all enrolled
- 3:37Speaker 3: and have have had surgery. They we don't we should
- 3:40Speaker 3: say we only add five minutes extra surgery, so they're
- 3:43Speaker 3: already having a piece of neurosurgery to replace this tube
- 3:47Speaker 3: that I mentioned. It's not like a special thing, and
- 3:49Speaker 3: that's great from a surgical perspective. So ten adults are
- 3:53Speaker 3: already underway that most of them have finished the trial,
- 3:57Speaker 3: and then we've also just started the children and now
- 4:00Speaker 3: done some very young, very young children as well. So
- 4:03Speaker 3: they will continue throughout the next few months gathering and
- 4:07Speaker 3: enrolling more children as they come into meaning surgery for
- 4:11Speaker 3: this condition. And then that all gets wrapped up and
- 4:15Speaker 3: reviewed independently, and we expect to be able to continue
- 4:19Speaker 3: the trial rolling out around the country later next year.
- 4:22Speaker 2: You've secured only one of sixty five places worldwide on
- 4:26Speaker 2: the FDA Fast Track approval program. How big is that
- 4:28Speaker 2: for a keewy company.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, it's We certainly are the first one to
- 4:33Speaker 3: do that. It's extreme. You go from meeting every three
- 4:40Speaker 3: months with the FDA to meeting every couple of weeks
- 4:43Speaker 3: if you want to, and people think they're the big
- 4:47Speaker 3: bad wolf. Actually they're not. They're terribly helpful. They want
- 4:50Speaker 3: to see our technology and they've said this is a
- 4:53Speaker 3: game changer for our patient groups, So they want to
- 4:56Speaker 3: see us get through quicker. They want to make sure
- 4:59Speaker 3: obviously it's safe, but they really are trying to help,
- 5:02Speaker 3: so it is totally a game changer. The other part
- 5:05Speaker 3: is that it enables us to connect with some and
- 5:08Speaker 3: ensures the payers as we call them, the people that
- 5:11Speaker 3: we're paying for the technology and make sure that not
- 5:14Speaker 3: only it gets regulatory approval, but someone will pay for
- 5:17Speaker 3: it as well.
- 5:19Speaker 2: And will you have to do trials in the US?
- 5:22Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we expect to start that and that's why
- 5:24Speaker 3: we're capital raising on Snowball at the moment. Yes, trials
- 5:27Speaker 3: do commence in the US next year with the FDA approval,
- 5:32Speaker 3: which we expect towards the end of the year. Yeah.
- 5:35Speaker 3: So the FDA does like you to have well wants
- 5:37Speaker 3: you to have US citizens enrolled in their trials, and
- 5:40Speaker 3: I understand that, but it's not a It will be
- 5:43Speaker 3: very similar to the New Zealand trials, looking at benefits,
- 5:46Speaker 3: health economics, a whole host of different things. But we
- 5:50Speaker 3: fully expect that we can be obtaining clearance into the
- 5:55Speaker 3: market to being able to sell in the US and
- 5:56Speaker 3: therefore the economic benefits coming back to the country for
- 6:01Speaker 3: really in the next couple of years.
- 6:03Speaker 2: And as you said, that's all sort of coincides with
- 6:06Speaker 2: getting more investment on board, and you've opened up two
- 6:10Speaker 2: retail investors. What has the interest.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Been like amazing, good, amazing, amazing. Yeah. I think medical
- 6:19Speaker 3: technologies like ours that are world first, and I think
- 6:22Speaker 3: they do resonate with New Zealanders. Also having an outcome,
- 6:27Speaker 3: you know, a health outcome and doing something good resonates
- 6:30Speaker 3: as well. So I'm just so stoked at having hundreds
- 6:34Speaker 3: of New Zealanders get behind us on snowball. It has
- 6:38Speaker 3: been amazing. There's still work to be done, We're not
- 6:41Speaker 3: there yet, but we're quickly getting close to where we
- 6:45Speaker 3: want to be and then the trials will be able
- 6:47Speaker 3: to go forward with security.
- 6:49Speaker 2: So this this funding, sorry, was this to help you
- 6:53Speaker 2: with the work in the US and with the FDA.
- 6:57Speaker 3: But both to be able to secure running the New
- 7:00Speaker 3: Zealand trial next year, which is really about getting it
- 7:03Speaker 3: out to New Zealanders. We received fifteen million dollars of
- 7:07Speaker 3: grant funding, taxpayers dollars in the university came into us
- 7:11Speaker 3: to develop the core technology. We have a moral responsibility
- 7:15Speaker 3: to get this out to New Zealanders and we are
- 7:18Speaker 3: very close to being able to have this on market
- 7:21Speaker 3: in New Zealand.
- 7:22Speaker 2: That was my next question. How soon can we see
- 7:26Speaker 2: this technology in practice?
- 7:27Speaker 3: No, that's right. Yeah. So the idea is we need
- 7:31Speaker 3: to do a follow what we call a pivotal trial
- 7:33Speaker 3: that shows the health economics to the health system that
- 7:37Speaker 3: it's not going to be cost a whole lot more.
- 7:40Speaker 3: That's really important. And then of course the US trial
- 7:44Speaker 3: we want to be able to fund as well. We
- 7:46Speaker 3: need to be able to do that.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Oh, Simon, great news. Thank you so much for talking
- 7:50Speaker 2: to us this morning. Really appreciate it. That with Simon
- 7:53Speaker 2: Malpass who was one of the co founders of Kittya
- 7:57Speaker 2: who have developed this world first this censorship which wirelessly
- 8:03Speaker 2: measures fluid on the brain. Simon was also shortlisted for
- 8:07Speaker 2: the Innovator of the Year the Kiwibank New Zealander of
- 8:09Speaker 2: the Year Awards, which have just taken place. So incredible
- 8:13Speaker 2: work that they are doing.
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