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REPLAY: Jingle Jangle: A Christmas Journey w/ Tessa Claire Hersh · Black Men Can't Jump [In Hollywood]

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: So do you want to talk about You're in the combo you have with your your nieces.
• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Please tell us about this, but a holiday season The hot so so I'm a pigeon is moving for a minute, but then my little nieces.
• 0:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, let me get their birth visit
• 0:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Five, three, and two, and three, two.
• 0:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: So basically, my niece is FaceTime the other day, and told me we had the first Django Django, and proceeded to tell me all about Django Django, and asked me, do I sing, and I said no, and they were great.
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's the point, and I can't say one and two to sing the song, because they were telling me, because they were telling me about like, I was hit as I didn't know, it was a musical.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: They're like, oh, they're talking about the songs and they were singing them and they're like, why aren't you singing it?
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, I don't know the songs and I don't sing and the disappointment.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: And like, we have one of the youngest one, Kaiya, uh, she has a very, um,
• 1:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: raspy voice, but she's like, very, very young.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm like, oh, man, you remind me of like, T-Bahs and shot A, it's a, it's a great singer voice.
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: And when she sings, it is so cool because she's not even two and a half a three yet.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm like, yes.
• 1:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I guess like, kids will like make fun of her.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: I guess when they have zoom classes because her voice sounds like that and I'm like, no, you gon' be in jinkled jankled because you got the singer voice to get in the jankled.
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it was great, man.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: They're texting me now, saying,
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that's that's that's that's I tried to get I'm sure they didn't want to podcast You know this is Whitney so my So there's my cousin's cell phone, but I'm assuming the oldest one is texting me from it
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's so, man, oh, thank you.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm like, look at Chah.
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: I love hanging out with him and then going home once they start going crazy.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, this is fun.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: When you take these kids back, I have a favorite holiday film growing up.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love the Grinch and I like the two Jerry Grinch and Nightmare Before Christmas.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: I watched both of those.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, those are good.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I liked the Muppets.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: Christmas Carol, which I felt like this, oh, yes, felt a little bit familiar.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like I was like, it had a similar, yes, you know, to the Muppets Christmas Carol, like that kind of like in close like New England or Englandy like cobblestone, you know, we'll watch you test it.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I don't think I have a favorite Christmas one.
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like old movies, like I have, I like watch a lot of like
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Mary pop.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a wonderful life.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've I've watched a wonderful it's a wonderful life.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like in the background.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: I have never seen it's a wonderful life.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, who's who's wonderful life is this huh?
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: What a brother's assistant at who's life.
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I'd be quiet.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I can't remember a bell rings and Angel gets his wings, you know, just hear a little jingle jingle and then it's
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've been a set for a full 30 seconds the second that was this was all about you did freeze John's in every time physically able to move don't freeze Bell rings and angel gets his wings You hard at the first time you don't repeat it.
• 3:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and you know what the sound of a bell makes
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't.
• 3:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Jingle, Jingle.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, make no, don't.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: Get deeper through the freezer.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's true.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm bound to stay in the freezer.
• 3:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just saying when you ring a bell, you know, a little bell, you hear.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: The full title is Jingle.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was a pretty story.
• 3:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's Christmas, Jerk.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: Jingle, Jamie.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Don't.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: We're not doing full titles here.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: What is this?
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: What is this?
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Does this win?
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_08]: This win.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a Christmas journey, because it was journey, because it was journey, but for real, that's Oh, I didn't even keep that to right now.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't see Tesla.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's right.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't even notice that's all right now.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: We'll just start the show.
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your head, your
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say that it was me, I can't jump.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know it's good to know it.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: meant the villains always have the best.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was the best.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: No, listen, that was the best one.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Turned all the lights on, I danced around the apartment.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was ready.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll put it back on, I'll put it back on.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll put it back on, I'll put it back on.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: The whiz green suit.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: My camera.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, you noticed the whiz.
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: You noticed the whiz.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: You noticed the whiz.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You noticed the whiz.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll stop.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: There are so many oads to different.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think there are so much homage to.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my eyes.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Alt to old films.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Children's family films.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: So many homages.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: Um.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: didn't he put the cape on like every one that right now for those listening for the first time.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: This incredible leading voice you're listening to is John.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: He said he said please how do you why I come on.
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's been here for a minute.
• 6:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's been doing it lately and it discussed me every time and I hate going after it okay y'all created this.
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Y'all created this.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: This voice, why are you so in that?
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, he's like, the girl's like it, so the girl's like it, and this voice is James the third, why?
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: James, James, James, James, I've got the deepest voice out of everybody.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_09]: He's just me hiding it.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: And we have a special returning.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: What is this?
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Six times though?
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, listen, this ain't even a guess.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's a new goal.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: So this is, this is.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's just an outfall on SNL.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just yeah, might as well be a cat's member.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: They don't pay me like they pay out.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Follow it.
• 7:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's true.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: Do you think they pay out a whole much?
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Of course he gets paid.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I thought they got, they got.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: They got a lot of them paid for them.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: S Ag minimum?
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's never paying him.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Definitely.
• 7:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: They paying him.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: S Ag minimum.
• 7:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Did you want to drop up here?
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's got.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: They paying, they paying.
• 7:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a month of risk.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is paying.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't know if Baldwin's renting anything.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, everyone.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's Tessa Claire Hirsch.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_08]: Woo!
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah!
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ooh, janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko janko jank
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: I was waiting to see how long it would be for test to start a sheet in this First up it.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's what it was going to change me.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not there is no shit Amazing, right?
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's like with the grin.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: What would you who then see no Christmas?
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I am your heart person my heart grew.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I have space for all the little people below now
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's amazing.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that's the look at you.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I honestly, as I talk, I'm legit trying to rewind it to like give back to Oh, she's an intro.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go on.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, oh.
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: She was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was, it was, it was, it was, it was.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was.
• 8:54
  [UNKNOWN]: It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: That was, that was going to be a level of trolling right there, like, just right at the end.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, little pee on.
• 9:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: I have time for those, we don't know.
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: We are a film review pack.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: As we review films of leading Black Actors, we talk about them in the context of race and diversity in Hollywood.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: And today we are reviewing the 2000 Christmas movie, Jingle Django.
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Django?
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: Journey.
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the music in the world right now.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's because literally draws play.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Draws playing.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: What song are you watching right now?
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Magic Man G. Magic Man G. We just talked about Magic Man G for the next two hours.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, that's not helping anymore.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: You have to pump it for sure.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, you're right.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: There is more to there is actually right.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're right.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: But that was my favorite part.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let me acknowledge that.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: that they're so much.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: So this movie, let's see, it stars Forest Whitaker, King of Michael, Key, Felicia, Rashad, and then some of the, let's see, these little girls.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just making sure I got each one.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: So Madeline Mills.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, man, you got to remember, you got to remember, you got to then Mills.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: The new star, Madeline Mills.
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Introducing Madeline Mills.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think the star.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, you have Madeline Mills.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you have Madeline Mills.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: She was trying to have sex.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Joyce.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: So good.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Her first thing ever.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, can only Rose and the younger version of her.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: She was so good.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: Diana Ricky Martin is also in this film.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, Ricky Martin.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's Don Juan Diego.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: My man killed him.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was not looking at when that little toy started moving.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, who is doing this?
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: Me too.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I looked it up immediately.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's it.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then Lisa Divina Philips.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Introducing.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then she was Mrs. Johnston.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: She was great.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, she was so.
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's great.
• 11:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean.
• 11:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, my goodness.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: needs to stop.
• 11:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: What they're doing, not even listen to this podcast and make sure you go back and watch this entire movie.
• 11:12
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• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is her moment.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is her moment.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is an introduction to her to the world.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is her moment.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: We are going to see so much more of her.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: She is.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: We witnessed a moment here.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: She was.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: She was.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: She was.
• 11:40
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• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: So wow and director the director David Talbot I'm so excited looking to look at him up.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like whoa, I'm Man been here for a minute and they get they were just like here is a budget
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: They were like, let's give David E. Talbert the but like the budget.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: They gave him all the money.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, every star signed on to this John legend Mike Jackson, who else did the music.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: There were four people.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: John legend, oh, producers.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, he'll produce.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: Came in into the music.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: They were just like, listen, first Sunday was was that was the movie.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: We all, we all.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: We all love Christmas.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's give, but you haven't had the budget that you deserve.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: They should give him all of the money.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: He honestly rocked it.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yo, I looked this, I looked them up and I was like, almost Christmas.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: They get like, no, that's no disc.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's a good move.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, but there is nothing in me that was like, oh, yeah, that will translate and watching this movie.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: I was like, brother.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: And he wrote it.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I wonder what the budget was for this.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: We don't know because it's a Netflix film.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: We also don't know how much it made.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: We do know that the Rotten Tomatoes score currently is 95% Absolutely.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: And honestly, that should be 110 should be 110.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: It should be over 100.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, this is a movie or black people get to be in like, I kept trying to, I kept trying to think about this movie about like, when do we ever see black people and kind of one of these like fantastical like beautiful like dreamscapes and I thought about the ways.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I'll try to get like, was it other time like in this movie, no one gets turned into a toad, no one's like a lion, like their black people would just sing in a dancing.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's so beautiful.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: And they got money.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm looking at Felicia Rashad with the brain.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: This movie started and every like 15 to 30 seconds, I would just be like, no, stop.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: No.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then I was like, you hate no, no, no, already.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, no, I'm moving like this has never existed before.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like this is the first time I've ever seen this
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, God, please, what do we do?
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like I'm about to just gush over this movie.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think we just don't say it.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: We must gush.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is a like life changing for generations forever, or will forever have this movie.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And everyone forever more will know jingle, jangle and the characters of jingle, jangle.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is a moment.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is huge.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: And we must gosh, I got chills, but it's so good the fact like people at home just think about it honestly like
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: And to me, the fact that like three young girls called, like my foe, and talking about a movie, that for two, like, I don't see it with almost two hours, just about how much they love this damn movie.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I also love you, you're me to love you, that they called you about this.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: I wish I had a relationship.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's so sweet.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: Did, though.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Did, though.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: But it's also, it's like, how many other
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: kids got to see this like to me the only thing and I do not have a complaint the only thing it's like I just wish theaters were open and kids got to see this like could you imagine going to a freaking theater?
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: I know a bunch of little kids especially a bunch of little black kids dancing and freaking because I'll be honest.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we can do initial thoughts, I mean, I guess it's got hard of it, but like this gave me this gave me very much the greatest showman vibes where it's like, you just are like, this is just pure joy.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's things that we didn't get to see it in the theater.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Does your audience know that Greatest Shump, the Greatest Shump is one of your favorite movies?
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do they know this?
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, all right.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Greatest Shump in the theater.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: We need it.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: It is.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Just so it is great.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: OK, yes.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: John, can not get through the first 20 minutes without crying.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: One of my top songs, Spotify, not last year, but the year before, was the greatest show.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was one of my top songs on Spotify.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because it's incredible.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had five videos of him washing dishes and singing to him.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's a police police and that's a group there and police it like that's not even to blackmail John It's just I just want to see that kind of joy It's that it is his happiest is when he's angry to show man But Tesla found out that the choreographer for this movie was also the choreographer for the greatest show man That explains it's fire
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: It is.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's Australian Ashley Wayland and he did greater showmen and he also did, I think he did the mob scene in that Justin Timberlake and Miele Kunis movie.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Remember when he did a lot of showmen?
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was a good movie.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he also did that dance movie.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Which was a good movie?
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a good movie.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was a good one.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Out of those two movies that came out.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was a good movie.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, yeah.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: This movie was awesome.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there's so many great actors in it that were being introduced or at least giving a bigger platform.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: The choreography was fire.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: The music was great.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: The singing was really good.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: The set pieces were really super fun.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I couldn't nitpick here and there a couple of things, but I couldn't.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I couldn't.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's nothing to nitpick.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: But it's actually your lack of imagination.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's your childhood spirit that makes you not able to because what you know what it is, all of the things that he would nitpick are like logic leaps that a child, a child and a free spirit, and someone who's connected to the Christmas spirit and who believes would be able to do.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: The levels to which you just dragged him for no reason.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_08]: That's so many different spheres.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_08]: I wish I'd never let us to be like a video podcast, but today, I used to just saw a ton of, looking up, it has to happen to me.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_08]: We're further in further down.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_08]: And then he jumped right off to the side.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_08]: He just saw him just kill me.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, but he has so much to do that bro.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_08]: I won't play he was like no, I'll win due to that and Here it oh Of course you did it so sorry for again.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god one way take it to drag down
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_08]: I wasn't ready for this, this made my day.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, this is great.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, all right, all right, y'all, y'all should be here.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to get some water.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's literally waiting the room.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: All right, let's have some fun.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: OK, Django Jango starts with the queen Felicia Rashad.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: Miss Hux the Bull herself.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, yes, with her grandkids, right?
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: Her two grandkids, the Asapo Christmas story, but they want a new Christmas story, and she brings out a box.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: The fire, you could hide about the fire.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the fire, you right?
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, the little girl sees some magic in the fire, and she said, tell us her brother, did you see that?
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: And she said, and he's like, no.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just fire.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: And Tessa turned to me and was like, that's me and that's you.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: But also this movie is the epitome of this movie is almost like
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, they told, you know, sort of directed.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, what do you want to write about?
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, I want to make a movie about black girl magic like straight up, like it is literally absolutely generations.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I know us, I know us about, you know, Django Django is about like, you know,
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: as well.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: We start with, you know, Journey, we hear the story about her mom that how Journey gets involved.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it's just like this beautiful lineage, you know, a thing that I also thought that was great about the representation of magic was that it was like both an understanding of like science and equations.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then the understanding of that is is how you can then see and then
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: not the first in order to be connected to the magic world.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was that was beautiful.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: Also, I just want to shout out like, I know we said it already, but to see them have this kind of budget.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: Before we even get to the puppets, it's like just Felicia or a shot in this room that the costuming was beautiful.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, just seeing like the fire dance and like you just, you could feel that they had support.
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like from the, from the, from the very geek on, then we get to the puppets and the flashback and like these graphics look beautiful.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: They are also, I also love that.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: the meaning behind that line.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's time for a new story.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they said that I was like, damn, this is good.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was done.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was done.
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was already screaming with joy at the front of the screen.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: And because it was delivered, I mean, you have someone like Felicia Rashad, who could deliver this line.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: But like,
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of times in movies, we get these things where people say something like, like, meaningful, but it's like, I don't know, it feels so forced and this, it felt, it was like completely correct.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: The advertisements for ten it and I can't find these early teasers, but the early teasers were like, it's time for, it was literally like, it's time for a new kind of hero and then you pan to John David Washington in a Chris Nolan movie and you're just like, yeah, this is Chris Nolan being like, I have a black man at the center of mine.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: move it now.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it was like so it was like cringe-worthy disgusting, but like in the context of this movie, you're like absolutely.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: So beautiful.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: And also, just Felicia Rashad, just, I just, she doesn't act, she does something different.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a different thing she's doing.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: And every time she says a word or breath, it's so filled with love, it's magical.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, it feels so good to be with her while she's on screen.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's such a gift.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, my gosh, I was going to think about it now.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's something about who we go to that flashback and seeing the young version of Django as the greatest inventor ever, right?
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: Great stuff to ever.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: This world is diverse.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it's not just like the black city is super diverse and is black dude.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: with his wife and his daughter is the youngest inventor has one of the biggest shops.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Matter of fact, it's so funny, Brock.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: Now, man, you mentioned that the set reminded you of, um,
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: But it's funny because it reminded me of the greatest showman because it reminded me of like integrated showman his shop was kind of like almost in that kind of code of sack like it just felt it felt the same but almost like brighter and a little bit more.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: This was colorful more colorful and I was like, oh man, I love that this black dude has this shop Like everybody comes into the shop everything's going to happen and I just love seeing this first dance number Because I was like, oh, we going big baby.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: I Man, because you know what it is and it's another thing after seeing certain musicals You realize the budget and scale people have and to see they have one wide shot
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: when Mrs. Janko was singing and it was a big pan out and you can see almost the whole screen filled with dancers and I'm like, man, this is dope as hell, you know?
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's kind of really good.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: For anybody who still is on like not sure if they like movie musicals and they like think like oh movie musicals are like cats like this is
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is what is possible.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is what cats should have been.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: It should have been jaw-dropping dance, like this, the skill of being able to capture dance on screen and group dance on screen.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's a style, there's a way to do it.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Everything about the cats style, like missed it.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it made a turned off a whole like generation of people to musicals, which is like devastating to me.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: And, like, this reek, no, the cats, cats, is actually a good musical.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: You are on the whole amazing.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: Isn't the whole play, does the introduction of different cats?
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is so creative.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: So exciting.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: And this is the problem.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're using your adult brain and not your creative brain, which is like, really a miss the whole point of this entire movie.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Which is about joker cats.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: I said it was so funny, I said it.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: I thought nothing but fear because I saw Tessa Pauls.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I saw her go, am I going to drag this nigga real quick?
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: It might be nice about it.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then she was like, all right, cool.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm a politely drag this nigga real quick.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was like, sure shot in me.
• 26:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I have a little bit like a little bit just a little.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 26:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: The other thing I liked about to the to the credit of this of this particular movie musical about this opening song was that like it really felt like
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: We were getting a glimpse inside his head like it wasn't like now I'm sinking a song to everyone.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was like this is when I'm thinking and feeling right now There were some weird.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how they I do not know how to put into words how they were able to do this But like it really felt like
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a window into this guy's soul instead of like in some times feel like, and now a song on top of this movie.
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: And it's set up the relationships.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: You saw where things were going to go.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?
• 27:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, which sometimes music movie music does don't do that.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's just like a big opening number to be like, look at us.
• 27:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: We're singing like, blah blah blah.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: And like, it introduces some people.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: But you don't you don't feel like fully get who they are.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you set up hit, you see Mr. Django and he's, he's the greatest inventor and he has all the stuff, but you also see that he's kind of he's ignoring his apprentice.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you, you, you see like, he's connected with his family, but his head is a little bit over here.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: So you understand,
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, when he loses his inventions, why he falls into that kind of depression.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then like, I don't know, it just, it set it up really, you kind of understood everything really well.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: I, I'm completely agree with you.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I just think,
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is, I just want people to understand, this is what musicals are supposed to do.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: The reason that a person in a story goes to music is because the emotion has gotten so big that we now have much express it.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: through song.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: And also, you should start in one place in the story.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: And by the end of the song, you should be in a different place in the story.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: You shouldn't be summarizing what has happened, and you shouldn't be talking about where you are right now in the moment.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: you should be moving the story along in song.
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what a good musical does.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's clearly what David E. David E. Teller clearly appreciates musicals and understands the structure and art of it.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: It followed a very classic musical structure.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: My slight nitpick was bad.
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, here you go.
• 29:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Good.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just thought in the big, very beginning.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't really feel this way, the rest of the movie.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: The lip syncing was just a little bit, oh, I could hear the studio track and see the acting and being like, it's not quite magic.
• 29:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: Specifically with the younger Mr. Django.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll say, Kat did know that this was a musical, I don't think.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: And the second young Django came out and the music shifted to hip hop songs.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why is it a dance party officer and I was like because they're all about to get down and then they did She didn't know like it through her off to and I don't know if I was just ready for or like excited for this For that shift to happen, but I don't know it didn't it didn't read that way to me, but it definitely did to her
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: I had no idea it wasn't musical, but it was funny because this, this, this is, this semester part about me.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: Once I realized it was a musical, I was like, oh, shit.
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: We bought the go, we bought the have a hip hop one.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to see, like, I thought the songs were going to be like, I thought every song would go be like, it's messed up.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like a black style like like a different genre of like, you know, this was going to be like the R&B track.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this was going to be the track song.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this is the right track of music.
• 30:19
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I have,
• 30:21
  [SPEAKER_08]: reason to think that I just was like, well, you should.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, it's because they used they would do stuff like that.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like how you've been oppressed in the white gays pretty long.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's true.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't see they would be right.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Broadway and plankton.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: He had a hip hop number.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: That was written by T. And I was like, Oh, this is real good.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I was expecting like if it.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what, never mind, let me.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Smell, SpongeBob musical is a good at the musical.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's so fire.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: All right, you know what it was?
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't want it to be quote-of-hole, black or five, but there was something about
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: having like this black musical and having some of the styleings that have popularized black music incorporated into it and they did do it like I remember I will play when I had the snowball fight it kind of had I felt like I was just like an afro beat and I was like oh this is fire as like this is this is really cool man.
• 31:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: and Ashley Wayland, the choreographer, totally met that and blended this amazing musical theater style that he has, that's very unique to him, that so much that we recognized it before we knew it was him.
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then he also made it like very, he gave some like Afro, like cool,
• 31:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: He got a girl.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: The girl was the girl was killing there, but they used to know the four is working.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: He'd get a one-long two-step with the, you know, he was doing it seems like he got some moves.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: Don't sleep on four is with a girl.
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: Listen, I am such a fair it.
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: But wait.
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: So, so let's go back.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: So we see you.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: So we see Janko's apprentice, you know, Janko has just made after the big musical number.
• 32:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's made this talking doll that's Ricky Martin.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, through like some weird magic drop.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he had been waiting for.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: He was waiting for his one special thing.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, to finally arrive.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: Did that ever come back, like the, the, no, right?
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, okay.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like specifically what that connection was, that never came back.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's a guy.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we never found out what exactly that ingredient was, but he was going to mass produce this guy.
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then, but the guy was very pompous, like immediately, and then he was like, wait, I'm in a million of me, you know, it's only me.
• 32:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like he was self-ish, he
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: The neglected, you know, apprentice is stealing him and the book.
• 32:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: I was wondering what this was going to go because I was like, huh, interesting.
• 32:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then we flashed to like, you know,
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Django neglecting is like the oh my god, it's so sad we flashed to like the montage of like Django going through all the all the depression Like he has this emotion animation was really beautiful like and I love like by the end of us like oh yeah, they were just like they were like we're about to make a Christmas movie We're gonna have the root off you know the heatmizer frosty to snowman vibes.
• 33:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: They were like we're gonna do everything we can
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: didn't feel yeah like sometimes people do that and you're like what like that's not it's not fitting they really like I mean Talbert did such a good job because everything fit together beautifully like it was a full package it's everything felt right it worked together like a tool like like one of jangles and benches like it was just like beautiful man jangles and benches
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, one of my favorite favorite things is, you know, when we catch up and now it's for us, Wettaker, and the guy from the bank comes in, it's like, hey, man, you either got to give the money back, clothes or like come up with like the new, something revolutionary, right?
• 34:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I love what Ms. Johnston comes in.
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: Also, love their name is Johnston.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: And not Johnston.
• 34:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know why that I kept noticing that it was Johnston.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: But when she came in,
• 34:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: It took me a second to realize she was hitting all fours with a cut.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: I was like, wait, what's happening?
• 34:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then we took him to the number.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: And when he addressed the fact that, like, they're about to do a musical number, he was uncomfortable.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's like, he's up.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: That was bad.
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was bad.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was the third song of the movie.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he calls out back.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Do honestly force Whitaker was bringing the comedy in this movie.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he was 100%.
• 34:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: So his little like mumbling like him just being like, I don't have time for this.
• 34:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you're like, did you, did you not hear what I said?
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was so close to all the in-props.
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think so too.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think it was so good.
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: He was so funny.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was so funny.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: Also, he was so good.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think every actor committed in this movie, but there's a scene between Forrest and Young Journey.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: What is it, actresses' name again?
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm so, I want to, since we're introducing her.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Madeleine.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: But there's a scene between him and her and then a scene with forest and misroes and it's like, my man is just like you just you feel sad and if you feel passionate like you feel lost I was like yes this is this is what happens when you have a Christmas movie when you hire actors to do it and like they still can like of course
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: play it up a little bit because it's a kid's movie, but there are those moments where they can really just like lean into it and just give them movie like gravitas and like grounding it and it was so excited to see that.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: It was so excited because a lot of actors would have just been like, been in a Christmas movie and like, yeah, be all big.
• 36:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of Shakespeare actors in here back the guy who played the younger Veronica's Django.
• 36:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: The guy who played the younger one, he's like a Shakespeare player.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: He like performs in Chicago and Shakespeare a ton.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's a, and I think, and I think Lisa Divina fell up, it's like, she's like a theater actor.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's like a lot of depth to the acting skills that are showing up here.
• 36:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: I love it.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then Hugh Bonneville, the guy who plays that landlord or the bank, that he's a don't nabby.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: I knew he was familiar.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's, you know, one of England's like prized actors of all time.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, there's a lot of depthful work being done here.
• 36:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, man.
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: This honestly, I thought it was so great.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then we finally meet journey.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: It was so, by the way.
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, sorry, good.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: When they, when they were like,
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: to be like journey, like the older, or like his daughter, now in a doll.
• 37:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: I really, I don't know why the way did they paned up, I was like, is it gonna be journey so smoothly?
• 37:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you see, it's like, just because the way that they like, it was like such a reveal, like what she looked like, I read, they were saying journey, and I was like, could you, it would be so fun, like, so maybe a moment in a movie theater, everyone would just clap and be like, yeah!
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I mean, this other actress was incredible too.
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: We don't see it.
• 37:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: At first, you thought it was like, she was just going to be a small part of the movie.
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then she comes and does a whole song.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she, no, I didn't because it wasn't Nick and Noni Rose.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, I was like, literally having her in for that little scene that she's in in the beginning and having her not go on the journey with journey.
• 38:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, she's coming back later.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm better to do a song in the entire house.
• 38:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: She better do a song that's.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: That is literally, I mean, that is literally that maybe my one complaint is that you have a Nicanoni rose in there and we have to wait to the end of the movie to hear her bring down the house.
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: What the song she played in like there's different names for different parts of the of songs in the musical structure.
• 38:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's like the opening there's a finale right like there's
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: that she played.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: She's saying the 11 o'clock number 11 o'clock number.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's that one where you're like, this is the, this is everybody's asleep.
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: She wakes everybody up.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, what's it?
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: 11 o'clock.
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: So, so wait.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: So sit down.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're rocking the boat.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's all.
• 38:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 38:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Guys, and that's like a classic.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: 11.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it's supposed to be the one that like like gets everybody back into it.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: That kind of basically don't know about it.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Give us shit about any other songs in the second act of a And then the songs are like pushing the story for push the story forward.
• 39:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Push the story forward.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we get to the end, you know, and then, and then you get this 11 o'clock number where everybody freaks the shit out.
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Which was the showstopper.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: And it's quite uptown and Hamilton.
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't know.
• 39:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a really good question.
• 39:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't know.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: What is it in Hamilton?
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I would say, speaking of Hamilton, I'm going to go out on a ledge here and say, I think that jingle-jangle is the Hamilton of Christmas movies.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: And let me, okay, let me, okay, okay, okay.
• 39:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because one of the things that Hamilton does is Hamilton does a lot of homage,
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: understood so much, it was such an appreciator of other musical styles and different things that.
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: And integrated it so fluently into the, into Pamleton.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: And similarly, I think David Talbert and I don't know who the musical director is.
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't should be saying something.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't mean to omit someone.
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I think that Davidy Talbert and the musical support
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: understood music and had such an appreciation for Christmas movies and family movies that he so was seamlessly intertwined all of these different visual and musical and character themes.
• 40:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, not cracker.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think Mary Poppins is referenced in here, Pinocchio for sure.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean,
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: music director or not.
• 40:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: There were four writers in terms of the songs.
• 40:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: John Legend.
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Including John Legend.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: John Legend and Philip Lawrence are the like standout names that every time they talk about producers.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Did it?
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's them.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: But then it's also Davey Nathan and Michael
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: and he had a man cool.
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, really awesome.
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and we get, so yeah, basically following the story is, you know, it's been was a 20 year or so.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: The daughter has grown up, and she has a daughter of her own now, journey.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Forced with her, sends this letter to his daughter.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: because he is trying to find, he's missing the magic, he's missing something, and he needs to create something revolutionary, or he's finally gonna lose the building that's been converted into a pawn shop, and she sends her and journey goes there, and...
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: At first, they have this funny bit where they're like, he's like, he's like, he's like, I'm your granddaughter and he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: I do, I love the, it was kind of, then I made you sad a little bit is that he was so interesting that he made her sign a contract.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I feel like, I thought that scene was so fun.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: I was, I love this.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Who was out in the school?
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: The contract is huge.
• 42:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: So this was basically, I mean, really wanted to buy it, yes, yeah, and so did the flying was a little was merit poppins.
• 42:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was also really wanted because they, you know, remember in the, with the fan, and then also, but also Peter Pan because you have to believe in order to be able to get a fan to be able to believe exactly.
• 42:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: And the rope, but that we finally get introduced to looks like Wally.
• 42:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's got the wall.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's a buddy 3000 or wait.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: What's the friend's name?
• 42:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Buddy 3000, which is the friend's name is Edison Latimer and some little boy's name.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: It is Latimer because I was, it was so funny because he, they called it Edison.
• 43:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, I was like, oh, it's cool.
• 43:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's Edison, but I wish his name was like Louis Latimer and so his last name is last name is Latimer.
• 43:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, there you go.
• 43:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: When he came out, we had already seen him in the movie, but when he comes out once journey is there at the same time in Unison Uncompted cat and I both said love interest yeah, he hilarious.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: I literally was like is we was like is that a young boy?
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: He looked straight up like her.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, what do you think?
• 43:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Where is he?
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: This kid was so good.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Good, dude.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay.
• 43:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay.
• 43:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is his first acting role.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: What?
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is his first role in INDB.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's not even done anything, not even a small thing for us.
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: He was so good.
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Every single person on here felt like, oh my gosh, look at the stars.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I do think this is gonna be a movie that we look back and go, wow, can you believe all those people were in this room?
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: When these kids are going to be really helpful.
• 44:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: So huge.
• 44:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I think it will be, I think it's gonna be.
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: It was just exciting to watch it then.
• 44:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I wonder how the comments
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's first you have to like 2020.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's like, man, they were just like, warm, hard at moments.
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: I just felt good like watching them fly.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like watching these kids fly with this robot felt so good, which was also crazy.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Because it was just like, wait, what's happening?
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so hungry.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Because the robots start flying.
• 44:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're like, that's cool.
• 44:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then they start flying.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, wait, what?
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: We never know why anybody can fly.
• 44:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: But you know what?
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's Christmas, man.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why could they why can he make them fly because they believed because they believe But the robot was only flew when the robot was there because the robot was
• 45:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: They all fit.
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
• 45:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: Now we're at my favorite scene where we hit a story about magic man G baby.
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm such a fan.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: Listen, I'm such a fan.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: And the thing is watching Keegan do this scene.
• 45:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Magic man G. It was.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: It was cool because at this moment, it felt like when I think about camp here on how much that meant to like comedy watching this scene it just shows like you know, they both are doing the thing that they love to do right now.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's like like Jordan gets to direct these horror movies and Kegan gets to do like he's he always thought about doing Broadway.
• 45:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: He always thought about musicals and like he is then a big budget lack Christmas musical like he's in it.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
• 45:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: When he's doing his musical moment and he's about to do a spin to like dive all over the stage and I'm like, oh, you see, you see just joy in this man's face.
• 46:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, oh, when he did the clapping, like, there was like, he like was so into it.
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, oh, my god.
• 46:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: This gave me whiz vibes to no end in the musical version of the whiz like the stage version there's a song called You wanted to meet the wizard so you wanted to meet the wizard and the wizard comes out and just show boats for like the whole And you know he doesn't have any Powers because he's the whiz and you're like you don't you don't you can't do shit But the whole song is like how great he is that gave me so those vibes so hard this we know he can't
• 46:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: he has no talent.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's just talking about how great he is.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was just going to say the thing that I really like rocked to me because we know that Keegan, Michael Keegan, like just like play this like cocky, flamboyance, like guy, like he just can do it in so many different ways.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: But what I loved and I don't know how much this is Keegan and how much this is David E. Talbert, but or really understanding the their well matched meeting,
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: the moments when he right before he presented buddy 3000 and he's breathing and ready to like the right before the curtains open and he really reveals the depth of character that he's owning in this like
• 47:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: that he's struggling, that he's nervous, that he really is still this like little apprentice trying to prove himself.
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: We got all of that just from him breathing and blanking before the curtain opens.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: It reveals it.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: And another moment that I loved of his, which was just like, God, you're good, was when he was in the alley and he's talking to journey and trying to come in
• 47:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just think he does very depth like that's obscene to watch over and over because his moments in that are so complex.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, you can see him like, re-adjust and try again, make up like he's so good.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then he can go so big and so, you know, and fill up the whole space as well.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's very talented.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, he's so good.
• 48:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: Also, his, man, his intro into this, I think is just one of my favorites, because, you know, they briefly say early on like,
• 48:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: The princess goes and becomes the richest toy maker in the world.
• 48:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: You kind of see that in the animation.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: But then we cut back to history to see like him, the puppets of him like sneaking out.
• 48:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it has that kind of revolving wall.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: So you see the puppet and then it revolves into him backstage before he goes out.
• 48:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: And like it just looks so good.
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then when he spins and the cape is just flowing, I'm like my man does he does a James Brown thing when he's done singing.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: There they do that just came from a little bit like to a test of saying like he's so good that while he's singing and it probably was clear that I do think there's a lot of him too while he's singing the robot those down so as he's hitting his last high note the high note goes from like singing to the scream at the same time I'm like beautiful
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: cat was waiting for that little robot to crash by the end of it and I was like
• 49:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's an inventor too.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: I wanted to whack the younger him set it up so well, because I really did feel for him, you know.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but so yeah, his invention does a work.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's used stolen all the inventions, used all of them, and he needs to get a new one, even though he's been toymek of the year, whatever, it was six times in a row or eight times or whatever.
• 50:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: and so he's kind of he starts spying on jangles place and he sees them discover buddy 3000 and sees them flying or whatever so he tries to go go steal it and meanwhile for his
• 50:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's causing the robot to not work.
• 50:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's just forcing journey to do chores.
• 50:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: And she's showing him that she has the same magic that he once did, that she can do the thing.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: She's the scientist.
• 50:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: you can see the science and kind of do it.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: They also very, you know, we're definitely borrowing from the Marvel Iron Man little like that hit in figure's moment, we're Taraji's like looking at all the numbers and seeing how much that is.
• 50:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: She did that never be for cut, they didn't see it.
• 51:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 51:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: This is what I'm going to say.
• 51:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: You shouldn't have bought that up because that movie was supposed to be real.
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: And this is a Christmas fake Christmas.
• 51:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was something.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: There was something.
• 51:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know something about making the science making the magic both sort of grounded in like an understanding of the physical plane.
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: The moment when she's able to do it, and she looks over to Forest Whitaker, and he's like, you can see that, and it's like, yeah, can't you, and he can't see it anymore?
• 51:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's something about that, that was like, yeah, like, if you understand physics or whatever it is, that's would be how you see it.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: That would be how you see it, you know, to that would be a way to sort of dramatize how you see that.
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
• 51:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was cool.
• 51:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: I thought it was, I thought it was cool for this movie.
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think it was cool for it.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I think it works in a grounded movie like that because it's like in Queen's Gambit.
• 52:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: You guys are great.
• 52:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's a good example too.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've like, yeah, she sees.
• 52:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the board on the ceiling and she can watch, you know, I don't know.
• 52:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's something cool about That was a really cool how they used a man wish I remember some of the actual terms.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: It was like the square root of Impossible and she said the square root of impossible and the circumference of spectacular So good, that is so You got a good Yeah, you got to use that circumference of yeah, to use the square root of impossible with this circumference of spectacular
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: like it's like the best to me one of the best moments of this whole movie was is this given for us?
• 52:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's not given ever.
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: But when the kids are trying to get buddy back and they have to come through the blades and for us like you can't, it's impossible, it's impossible.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: And she goes, you got to use, which one did she say that she said this group of impossible?
• 53:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: And she said this square root up.
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: Whatever it is, he's like, no, it's just in my head.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: It won't work.
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: And she's like, it will.
• 53:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: I believe.
• 53:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: And he's like, I don't, I do.
• 53:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: And obviously, he has that moment of just like, shit, yes.
• 53:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's just seeing, I don't know.
• 53:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think Ruby has like, people always say it, but like, adults lose their imagination.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: So fast.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I think, especially black people, because I think,
• 53:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: as black people, especially depending on what you are, you are forced to grow up because you can't be training in this shit.
• 53:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: But it's a world tree.
• 53:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like every time I see something happen to a little kid, that kid, you know, a black kid can't just run down a street.
• 53:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, because, you know, they're being hool against.
• 53:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like white boys can do that because they're just having fun.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like a kid can't, like still a piece of candy out of a store, like white kids can do that and be like, oh, they're just learning that just kids.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to challenge that a little bit because I actually think that there's something so spectacular and resilient about the creativity and the flavor of blackness.
• 54:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: That like in all of these different scenarios, like you give like,
• 54:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: You give black folk, you give them like a pebble in a cup and they make it into an instrument.
• 54:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like you give black folk like the scraps from the farm and you get soul food.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I just think that the constant creativity
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: and resilience intertwined into blackness itself is like unstoppable.
• 54:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that's true in a macro sense, but I also get what you're out of saying is there's a really powerful moment in the movie where
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, for Whittaker's Yelink Jank, Mr. Jankles, Yelink at them, because the, you know, 20, 2000 didn't work, and the kid is like, but you're the greatest inventor of all time, and he's like, I'm not an inventor, and neither are you.
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you know, and it was like passing on of like, well, the world beat me up, so I lost my hope, and not only did I lose my hope, but I'm gonna rob the next generation of their hope, too.
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: you know and like yeah and that happens like there's a legacy of that where when you you have people who are thinking you know it takes
• 55:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: There are resilient people who breaks through who do these incredible things.
• 55:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think as the culture as a whole, as a community, black, the black community has always done that.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: But there's so many people that get left behind because they're being just beaten down by the world.
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then some of the people who get beaten down
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: turn to the other people and they're like, hey, then we talked about this before of like, you know, even that, um, when you go into high schools or you go and they're doing like a career there or whatever.
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: And they're like, hey, you know, you should, you should kind of dream realistic, you know, like, just make sure you get a good job.
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Don't set your set their goals to high, you know, we don't want you to be disappointed.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Don't be disappointed like I was, you know, the people have that where they kind of already are putting these limitations on kids before they're even able to even attempt anything which I think this little this little girl is like breaking through she sings a whole song where she says the square root of possible is me.
• 57:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: with the black experience, the black lens, you get some of the stuff that's happening and you realize that it's a universal experience as well.
• 57:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: So you get both.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: So people who aren't black go, they're like, oh yeah, I feel that way too.
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: And oh man, you know what I'm like?
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's perfect.
• 57:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: Hi, I agree, man, like that.
• 57:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, even this scene, I know you talk about it briefly to see when they have the snowball fight, uh, there's something so fun about that because when we get to see, of course, for us, we're going to be the super smart person he is with this snowball, but, but to see, like, again, growing up for me, like my grandfather was so cool to me, like super nice
• 57:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: And to see this young girl having a snowball fight with her granddad her granddad got a squad of kids like she got a squad of kids and then the whole block just our stone to have a snowball fight she did they did equations.
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: to throw snowballs at each other.
• 58:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was great.
• 58:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, whenever I see stuff like this, I get a little choked up because when I was a kid, if I collect bugs and I looked at the stars and shit and I got clowns so hard.
• 58:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: by every body.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody.
• 58:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: But the CD's little kids.
• 58:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: She was just doing that.
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Did she went to Snowball and the ship would turn into four and they would all hate each other.
• 58:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Evenly, I was like, that type of representation.
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's not enough of that.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's smart and black as a kid.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Be smart and black.
• 58:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's okay.
• 58:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's true, man.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: And she was still cool.
• 58:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's like a one point at a one point.
• 58:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: Edison goes I stop saying something if you if you stop thinking and it's like her face.
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, her face she said she said are you thinking what I'm thinking which he knew what she was thinking?
• 58:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: So he said if I say no with just tell you stop thinking.
• 59:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, her face.
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what it was it was a perfect scene because they stayed on that shot like a hair loss It was a certain looking at them sideways like are you crazy?
• 59:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean before they moved on and I was like this is great.
• 59:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: This is great, man.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: Man, that little boy was so funny.
• 59:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, he was cracking me up the whole movie.
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: And he wasn't annoying.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like sometimes those characters get very annoying.
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: And even during a journey wasn't the character that.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like, uh, uh, you guys found me.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: I can't think of actual like film term for it at the moment.
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: But a lot of times, you get like these young, um, girl characters, they make them the best and everything.
• 59:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 59:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Um, right.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: She was good, like her, her granddad was, but she also still needed help, but that didn't take away from like,
• 59:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: her strict in any way, any of them almost like when they were trying to escape, yeah, Edison was the one steering, but that didn't take away from the fact that it was a good part of her plan as well as much as it was part of his plan as much as it was a part of for his widocers plan.
• 1:00:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it was like literally at the end, at the end, he's like, she's like, I couldn't have done it without you and he's like, I know that's not true, but thanks for saying it anyway.
• 1:00:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 1:00:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I was like, man, it was so good when, when Miss Rose, I just, when she finally gets that song number written by John Legend and she's coming home and she's coming back.
• 1:00:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I'm going to play that right now to let me skip today.
• 1:00:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: The most exciting thing is this has got to get an Oscar nomination.
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I say it now and whatever are the Oscars this year.
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we're going to see, we're going to see this performed at the Oscars.
• 1:00:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then I'm going to speak it to the museum.
• 1:00:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to speak into the future that Broadway will open again.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we were somebody who adapt this I mean a hundred percent.
• 1:00:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: It would be so dumb not to we will get this In on Broadway and you know who's gonna.
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: This would make so much money on Broadway.
• 1:01:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I think Enica's gonna be in it Oh, I'm speaking this into I'm speaking this into the future.
• 1:01:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is I'm speaking
• 1:01:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: because because I want all that stuff to happen too.
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: And for anybody who is near a drive in, they plan it after driving somewhere nearby in LA.
• 1:01:31
  [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I'm going to see this at a drive in.
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know that.
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm a saying on the top of my lungs in my car.
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: That'd be so good.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
• 1:01:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I put the link in the chat.
• 1:01:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry.
• 1:01:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: Just watching for us do his dance.
• 1:01:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: Look man, it's just out here.
• 1:01:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: Just also, I know he said it.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: Look man, the set design in this shit is fucking awesome.
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: But these costumes, these costumes, man, it just feels like it's so cool looking at for us with a car right now.
• 1:02:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: in this kind of old timey outfit that feels like something you would just see Hugh Jackman or any one of these white dudes and it's like looking at Madeline and like with the pig tails but like I don't know, man.
• 1:02:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: We need to talk about the hair.
• 1:02:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: Woo!
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: First of all, they got black hair styles in this jump.
• 1:02:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: They got so many, this was so, there was like a cool, like afro-futuristic vibe from like totally intertwined into this, like a imaginary world.
• 1:02:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: The younger, oh gosh, what's insane.
• 1:02:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: The younger, Veronica's Janko, he his best was like, have like a can-day kind of pattern to it.
• 1:02:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it was like man, you know, so like they mixed that in and they had like all of this little like afro futurism like stuff and that and the hair like journeys hair was totally like modern afro futuristic with the like metal clock clogs and like screws and it like it was so Felicia was shocked.
• 1:03:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I looked amazing.
• 1:03:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 1:03:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't realize she had Cogs in her hair until when he was when force was looking for her in the scene when she like snuck into the, um, into the, and she was like, and he was like explaining like, oh, she has, you know, if you seem to she has Cogs in her hair, I didn't realize that.
• 1:03:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that was improvised, too.
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like he had a gorgeous work.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Also, he had a better, he's just such a good actor.
• 1:03:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: He makes everything feel like he's just not scripted.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Felicia Rashad is also a person like that.
• 1:03:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Felicia Rashad does a lot of behind the scenes, gifting, bestowing, like supporting, funding.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: She has a lot to do.
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Remember, Chadwick Osman talked about how Felicia Rashad was actually the one who connected him.
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: You.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's it.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Good.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Excel.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, he was that.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, he was so cool.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: She told her, how was she?
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 1:04:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: Something, something.
• 1:04:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: Do you imagine being in an acting class and your teacher is Felicia Rashad?
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: I, when I was going to school, I was looking at that stuff.
• 1:04:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, oh, should I try to go to like Howard to see if I can have some kind of connection to to Felicia Rashad?
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've had nothing.
• 1:04:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't know, I, I, I, I know, and you were supposed to how you do.
• 1:04:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: I, when I was in college, I ended up for a summer, one of my church, one of my,
• 1:04:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: someone at my church put me in contact with a woman who taught the summer acting program at Howard.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I ended up like volunteering there for the summer.
• 1:04:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: But it's interesting because like before I went to college, like I, I didn't know how people did anything.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like nobody in DC was like, hey, these are the schools.
• 1:05:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: It met a fact talking about, you know, how, I think Brilac was saying, you know, when Jank was like, no, you're not in the midterm.
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: As a matter of fact, for a lot of people, I think here in DC, it was, you know, get a good mid job.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: So like nobody was telling you how to do any of these non-coronal, real job things.
• 1:05:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's such a testament to how much you work to draw because now you are like a multifaceted like producer director writer creator that's like worked in so many different companies and avenues and like.
• 1:05:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: were for yourself like it and like the fact that you just like figured that out and made relationships along the way to get it it's like such a testament to your love for you and also how hard work you said you have made this black man term read out here let me go here get out did that but it's real but it's real but this one of those things were like that isn't to me that is the ultimate go of like artists it's like we can get to a point where again like force
• 1:06:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: I thought I could one little thing could put somebody on.
• 1:06:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like one little nurse could be like either.
• 1:06:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 1:06:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: The encouragement because, yes, I think a chat would go to time and you know, Felicia did help get him to London to study.
• 1:06:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: But this also, I think so many times, we're like, some of these famous artists are just like generally nice to someone else, and that is all that person needs to keep going to where they say, you know, Oh, man, this movie honestly, I'm so yeah, like this movie.
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: He can do it for her.
• 1:06:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, you're right.
• 1:06:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's
• 1:07:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: She's just sitting there silently with her eyes.
• 1:07:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Tyler has clothes.
• 1:07:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: She's like, y'all.
• 1:07:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Y'all.
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Also, and for us, what occurred is like, I'm not a dude.
• 1:07:20
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yo, I thought this was so big.
• 1:07:22
  [SPEAKER_08]: Because I was at home all the way to cheer.
• 1:07:25
  [SPEAKER_08]: You go on for a prep.
• 1:07:26
  [SPEAKER_08]: You go on for the kids.
• 1:07:28
  [SPEAKER_08]: You go for the kids.
• 1:07:29
  [SPEAKER_08]: He was like, dude, how does this work?
• 1:07:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: I haven't used this in so long.
• 1:07:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then she just, she just drives away and sing.
• 1:07:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I don't know.
• 1:07:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but she also is, I think she's a she is and it's something about
• 1:07:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think maybe sometimes you can take too many meetings, but it was something about early on in the movie when we first see her.
• 1:07:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then the second time we see her and somehow, she's like, she got wrapped up with jangles.
• 1:08:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: She's like, I'm just trying to express myself.
• 1:08:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: And she just keeps trying to get him out of his shell and out of his phone.
• 1:08:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: And yes, she has a crush on him, but it's also like,
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like black women are also always known to be the backbone and always be supporters and like to see this woman throughout this entire movie, no, they're like, yeah, he just needs one bright spot, even when the granddaughter comes, she's like, I heard your granddaughter is here.
• 1:08:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's going to be fun.
• 1:08:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, she just keeps trying, it's so funny that you say that too because I, in that first song, the thing that I latched onto the most was that like it was like, yeah, he's down.
• 1:08:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's, he's not.
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: going for it, and she's trying to push him to get out of that funk that he's in, but cat was like, I'm not ready for this scene right now.
• 1:08:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm not ready for a for a for a seduction scene, you know, it's like, yes, it's a, yes, it's a seduction scene, but the point of that is her getting him out of this street, it's both of those, like it is true, that's how she feels about him.
• 1:09:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: And also this is the like that moment of like, you know,
• 1:09:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: you know, pick yourself up, you know, like, get out of that funk.
• 1:09:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry for that.
• 1:09:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: You're so here for it.
• 1:09:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just think she was miraculous.
• 1:09:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: The whole thing, every time she came on the screen, I was so happy.
• 1:09:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: She did.
• 1:09:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was just when she showed up in the movie, I was like, oh, we got a muse like this is a musical.
• 1:09:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: She is bringing every second, every breath that there's a way that
• 1:09:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, act through a song and utilize the musicality to add to what they're saying and go from phrase to phrase, like, that's what she was doing.
• 1:09:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh, she's a, it's a workshop.
• 1:09:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: She's a, you know, like she's showing you this is what you do with a song.
• 1:09:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, God, she's just, yeah.
• 1:09:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, man.
• 1:10:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just, I don't know.
• 1:10:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: Guys, this movie just made me feel happy.
• 1:10:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, I was in something to Hollywood, but I'm just kind of like hearing James say that David, so with this off a pitch, it just makes me so happy that this dude got this chance, man.
• 1:10:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, I don't even know what to say.
• 1:10:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's like,
• 1:10:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: But also, here's the thing, he doesn't need a chance.
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's already proven himself for so long, yeah.
• 1:10:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And also, any black director, I'm sorry to speak over you, but I just want to add one more thing, which is that any black director who's working with the little crap budgets that they're doing and making amazing films, like, then yeah, no kidding, they're gonna knock it out of the park when you actually give them a budget.
• 1:10:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 1:10:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and I was looking, I was looking at him too because I was like, oh, why do I like, okay, why is David Talbert doing this movie?
• 1:10:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I looked up and it's like he's just done like 30 plays.
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Wow, it's written 30 plays something crazy like that six movies, a handful of TV shows, a few novels.
• 1:11:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's like, my hands are stuck.
• 1:11:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're like three books like three novels under his belt as well.
• 1:11:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like he's been working for so It's like they finally gave him a couple dollars to make him look like wow I think he produced it too, right?
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: He was a partner.
• 1:11:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he was a producer.
• 1:11:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just thankful for this because
• 1:11:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't realize like I will say I knew I wasn't coming with a little bit of bias because I do like Christmas movies and I know my little cousins kept pitching it but I didn't realize how much I needed to see something like this because to me it was yes.
• 1:11:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well if you will say black excellence like yeah I think like I said I mean I think there's one or two things I could like say but whatever it was just so nice to see this budget
• 1:11:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: these costumes, these choreography, this dance, this intertwined mix cast, this excellent legends, reading, you know, in their acting, and then these brand new faces who are meeting these legends, absolutely hands down.
• 1:12:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's this beautiful man like it's an instant class.
• 1:12:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: It is absolutely it is that just hope like I know it's been on As we record this has been on Netflix is like top 10 list for like a week now Maybe a little bit over it and I just hope it kind of stays out.
• 1:12:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: I hope it has a resurgence back when we get closer to Christmas
• 1:12:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: I just want more people to watch this.
• 1:12:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I can't imagine it.
• 1:12:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they need to push this movie for sure.
• 1:12:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's, they can't get buried in the Netflix algorithm.
• 1:12:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, everyone needs to watch it because it's just the fun holiday movie that's.
• 1:12:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: filled with joy and it should be at the level of a of a greatest showman or whatever, you know, like, because it is that good, yeah, it's so it's so fun.
• 1:13:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, Kelly Clarkson brought Madeline on to her show because she was so amazed by my words.
• 1:13:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I can't wait to see what this little girl does.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a fast company article about this that I have not read.
• 1:13:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've only just now seen it, but he's, he's had this idea for 20 years.
• 1:13:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
• 1:13:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh, wait, can I just also say like you guys is like creators I want you to hear the lesson in the movie and also of the creation of this movie which is in the movie even though
• 1:13:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Whittaker lost his invention.
• 1:13:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's still because he's an inventor.
• 1:13:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was about his belief.
• 1:13:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was about the magic and the belief.
• 1:13:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he had more inventions outcoming out of him of flowing out of him.
• 1:13:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: So no one can steal your idea.
• 1:13:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Nobody can take and ruin.
• 1:13:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that doesn't stop you.
• 1:14:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's just loud.
• 1:14:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: One's a great inventor always.
• 1:14:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly and that's you guys in your careers because I know you guys have had some ups and downs and you guys have so much but like what you need to like remember is like the power of the three of you when you guys work together you're unstoppable and you have no like and there's just so many different ideas that can flow out of you you're it's really I think you guys are need to just take the lesson from the movie for real
• 1:14:28
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 1:14:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then also the lesson of the creation of this movie, which is that there, he, he's had this idea for 20 years and he's created all these different other things and built his way up and now the perfect year for this to come out, the perfect timing and you know that he thought the 2016 and 2008 was the perfect year for it.
• 1:14:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know that, but this was the perfect year.
• 1:14:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it is the truest gift.
• 1:15:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think.
• 1:15:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jingle Jangle is the best thing that's happened in 2020.
• 1:15:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:15:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: I feel good.
• 1:15:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: I honestly feel good.
• 1:15:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: I have it up right now on pause and I'm like Trump lost and Jingle Jangle.
• 1:15:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the best thing that happened.
• 1:15:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, listen, bring it on.
• 1:15:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: We have a few moments.
• 1:15:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: We officially know Jingle Jangle exists.
• 1:15:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: Trump may have lost, but he's still doing shady shit.
• 1:15:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: So, Jingle Jangle is the best thing that's happened.
• 1:15:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's so funny.
• 1:15:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: I gotta say this to, I have never laughed harder than when the second time those back up dancers pop up and the voice would it could go That was amazing.
• 1:15:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Those all, all three of those dancers were incredible.
• 1:15:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: I love them so much.
• 1:15:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's who John was in a pack of them.
• 1:15:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:15:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: I like, there was a part of me that was like, I was like, damn, I couldn't even get it on there.
• 1:16:00
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you could have been young, young Keegan.
• 1:16:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: Young Keegan, I know a bit.
• 1:16:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Truly, when I was looking at that, Bruce Lee and the sameman is one of the producers, and I was with Bruce Lee when I was working on a movie.
• 1:16:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I literally felt like I was like, I was like, okay, I'm saying dude, who played younger, younger Keegan, and I was like, I was like, damn,
• 1:16:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: I missed out that.
• 1:16:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:16:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: I am not where I want to be because that Absolutely Absolutely
• 1:16:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: he was so good.
• 1:16:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes I see people who are like me and I don't like them, but he was really good.
• 1:16:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, he was great.
• 1:16:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: Don't want you to talk about this and it doesn't and it's just a personal thing is like, I know COVID is sitting and everyone's being safe, but I'm like, this is a movie.
• 1:17:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't watch.
• 1:17:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like my family has nothing but I think that's all about on the podcast.
• 1:17:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: We don't have boys and my family anymore.
• 1:17:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like we just have like a bunch of girls from like,
• 1:17:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: one.
• 1:17:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, from like one to uh, my niece, uh, a little cousin, uh, called me last week.
• 1:17:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: The other one is 14 about the term 14.
• 1:17:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm like, just a bunch of little girls and like this would have been so fun to watch on Christmas Eve.
• 1:17:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 1:17:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: Because it will watch a movie.
• 1:17:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: You can next year.
• 1:17:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
• 1:17:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: You're right.
• 1:17:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's it's it's legendary.
• 1:17:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: It'll be around next year.
• 1:17:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: I can see Jake on Jacob too.
• 1:17:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, where's like we're like, we're like, we like, I don't.
• 1:17:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: I will watch.
• 1:17:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I do want them to to get ready to write.
• 1:17:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: You think to let it grow.
• 1:17:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I would love to see journey as the store.
• 1:17:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yes, come on.
• 1:17:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 1:17:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I do think that if I had grown up with this, it would have changed me.
• 1:18:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I grew up with like Rudy Huckstall as the people person that people were like, this is who you're like, you know, like if I had had like journey jangle as the like,
• 1:18:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: thing that people were like, this is who you could be like.
• 1:18:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is who you're like.
• 1:18:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I think that would really have changed me.
• 1:18:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it would have changed the way people experienced me, as well as even maybe the more.
• 1:18:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's deep.
• 1:18:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: If I would have had Edison Latimer instead of Steve Erkel.
• 1:18:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Would you have seen a book?
• 1:18:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: He was in a plane, and he was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:19:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: and fell.
• 1:19:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:19:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, she's so special.
• 1:19:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's so many special moments in this.
• 1:19:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: I just, man, I don't even have any of those to say.
• 1:19:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: I would talk to Hollywood.
• 1:19:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just happy.
• 1:19:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm like, you know what it is?
• 1:19:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm happy little kids get to see this.
• 1:19:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm happy little kids.
• 1:19:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm happy about I'm happy that but I can't get to see this but I'm happy kids of other races get to see this too because they get to see Because I don't think I don't know about you guys I don't think I haven't noticed it when I was a kid that when I was watching these movies Whether it's a Christmas movie or an action movie or one of these just kids movies that they weren't black kids in it I was just watching because they were fun kids movie and then when I got older I was like, oh all these things I grew up loving I was never a part of this so
• 1:19:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is I just wrote about this on Instagram that I think that there's a really important part about representation, which is people are saying, you know, with like Kamala they're like, oh, this is like so good for young women of color little girls of color so it's so good and it's like, of course it is, but the thing is like women of color.
• 1:20:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, we belong.
• 1:20:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: We have all the dreams in the world, Melissa's nodding her head along with me.
• 1:20:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, it's, we know we belong, we know where we can go and how far we can reach.
• 1:20:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: The problem is that people and other demographics are not used to seeing us there.
• 1:20:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: So they're not going, hey, I've got this opportunity, you would be great for, and they're not, and they're challenging and questioning and going,
• 1:20:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is she the leader that I should follow because they're not watching it so representation is so important for people of other demographics so that they can get used to seeing other folks in these roles like in life right so exciting I would happy I might watch this again
• 1:20:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Django Django.
• 1:20:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
• 1:20:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, I don't do bits anymore.
• 1:21:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I just feel like we should just probably just move on.
• 1:21:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's great.
• 1:21:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Great.
• 1:21:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 1:21:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: Cause your boy just doesn't even do this.
• 1:21:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's move on.
• 1:21:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Break.
• 1:21:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't even remember the last time I did.
• 1:21:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
• 1:21:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: You can not balance your shoulders.
• 1:21:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't even remember the last time I did the beat.
• 1:21:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: We got it.
• 1:21:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: Why?
• 1:21:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:21:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.
• 1:21:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Last day.
• 1:21:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you singing?
• 1:21:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did it.
• 1:21:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's the bad.
• 1:21:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
• 1:21:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: That one bad.
• 1:21:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
• 1:21:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
• 1:21:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was a good one.
• 1:21:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was a good one.
• 1:21:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 1:21:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 1:21:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can we move on now?
• 1:21:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's so much.
• 1:21:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 1:21:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've been saying that this whole time.
• 1:21:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Because we rate review films.
• 1:21:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, wait, I think it could be a swirl in here.
• 1:21:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because the white snow and you could swirl that up with this chop.
• 1:21:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Tessa, I'm not sure you know how to do it.
• 1:21:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure.
• 1:21:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure.
• 1:21:59
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not sure.
• 1:22:00
  [SPEAKER_09]: That's what you're seeing.
• 1:22:02
  [SPEAKER_09]: That's what you're seeing.
• 1:22:03
  [SPEAKER_08]: That's what you're seeing.
• 1:22:04
  [SPEAKER_09]: Wait, tell me.
• 1:22:05
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not sure.
• 1:22:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: They were rolling that.
• 1:22:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: Tessa knows how to swirl.
• 1:22:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is Johnston could have gotten with the, no, no, she was, no, I'm just saying she could have, she could have been like, yeah, I'm into you, Django, but you know, like I told you, you got to have some fun.
• 1:22:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then who is patriarchy?
• 1:22:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're right.
• 1:22:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, wait.
• 1:22:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: She can get whatever she wanted to get with.
• 1:22:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: Miss John.
• 1:22:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait.
• 1:22:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait a second.
• 1:22:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: I wish you a second.
• 1:22:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know.
• 1:22:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Miss John.
• 1:22:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: We just out here.
• 1:22:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not a part of it.
• 1:22:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not a part of it.
• 1:22:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not a part of it.
• 1:22:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: It is.
• 1:22:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, I'm part of it.
• 1:22:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Miss John.
• 1:22:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
• 1:22:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're making it out.
• 1:22:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just in this.
• 1:22:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: I love the nod to the post.
• 1:22:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Off it.
• 1:22:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: To the post service.
• 1:22:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: She was supposed to service.
• 1:22:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: She was like.
• 1:22:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: She was supposed to know that she was always like we always deliver our packages off time and I was like I was working today.
• 1:23:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, did they know the significance for this
• 1:23:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, man.
• 1:23:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, anyway, we rate and review films not based on how much we like them, but whether or not they help the cause of more leading black actors in Hollywood.
• 1:23:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: So if we think a film fully help the cause, we get a black fist.
• 1:23:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: If we think it's someone help the cause, we give it a white palm.
• 1:23:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: And if we think the film didn't really help the cause at all, we don't give it anything.
• 1:23:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: So on the count of three, we're going to lift up our ratings for Django, Django, a Christmas journey.
• 1:23:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, one, two, three.
• 1:23:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Come on, baby, come on.
• 1:23:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, so everybody's playing too.
• 1:23:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And how to get us to get the rules.
• 1:23:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, how was it?
• 1:23:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Eight.
• 1:23:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: OK, I'm going to give out.
• 1:23:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to give it to you, but it's just a game.
• 1:23:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: OK, that's it.
• 1:23:54
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• 1:23:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she was given it.
• 1:24:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, of course, I mean, this movie has to get all the fish.
• 1:24:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's an instant Christmas classic, incredible acting, introducing actors who have to have a career.
• 1:24:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, you don't have anything you could want.
• 1:24:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see everyone tag their children watching this.
• 1:24:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's fun.
• 1:24:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see everyone taking pictures of all their children of different colors and genders in front of this movie, watching it.
• 1:24:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I want them to hashtag black man can't jump and jingle jingle jingle.
• 1:24:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: And Netflix.
• 1:24:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see that.
• 1:24:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see a movement of that.
• 1:24:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm down for that.
• 1:24:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm down for that.
• 1:24:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: Hashtag, hashtag, hashtag.
• 1:24:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: Jank, no, that sounds weird.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: Janko, Janko, kids.
• 1:24:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Janko, Janko.
• 1:24:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: That was like so good when people had like all the kids watching her, her speech.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: We want to say bread.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: uh, I was just going to, I was going to thank Tessa for being on.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And thank you for letting me elbow.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, you always welcome Tessa.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I need to promote anything.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I like to promote another podcast that John and I do together.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They just called the Great British baking pod.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if he's mentioned it on this.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: podcast yet but it is a great joy and if you are a fan of Great British baking show like I am all we just sit around and talk about Great British baking show.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Well this current sees it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: This current sees it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We just chat like if you were sitting on the couch with us and we go on tangents and talk more about the show than the bakes and we act like we know what we're talking about when it comes to baking and we don't and it's a delight.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So please listen and also on Instagram
• 1:25:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can find me at App to Sondra, which is fine, but
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I also would love to talk to you on the Great British Baking Pod Instagram.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: That would be delightful.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And if you want to talk about cakes or cakes or who's lost and who won, I want to talk about that.
• 1:26:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Another thing is that I'm in a series called Now What on Sol Pancake.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks to the recommendation of the Great Rachel Edwards.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And Black people have helped and Black people.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: She's my first
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And it's really cool, weekly, I have a show where I interview a different activist about a different social justice issue, and we learn some stuff, we talk, we play, we laugh, it's a very cool show, it's been an honor to do it, and I'm so excited to have more eyes meeting these activists and hearing and learning from them.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So I would love for you to check that out as well.
• 1:26:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: to win the work, doing the work, amazing.
• 1:26:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can find us at blackmanpodcast on Instagram and Twitter, blackmanpodcast.com as a website where you find links to our merchandise.
• 1:27:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Where we have shirts, t-shirts,
• 1:27:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: actually I think they have masks now.
• 1:27:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Are you serious?
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Oh no.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and there's a sale going on.
• 1:27:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think everything's 35% off.
• 1:27:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, check that out.
• 1:27:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Also, if you rate review us on iTunes, give us five stars.
• 1:27:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll read your review on the air.
• 1:27:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: This, we got a really, really super short one.
• 1:27:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is just from MarNNDS.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: It says great.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, there we go.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: There we go.
• 1:27:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you can follow me out John Breloch.
• 1:27:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: You can follow me at James 3rd Comedy.
• 1:27:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: 3rd to 3RT.
• 1:27:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: You can follow me at Draw Milligan on Twitter and it's the Graham.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, thank you guys for listening and I will see you next week.