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Honoring Jeff Wright | Scott & LaRae Wright on Grief, Family, Music & Living Fully After Loss · The Observatory | Discovery of Consciousness & Awareness

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Observatory Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: With your hosts, Scott and LaRae Wright.
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  Speaker 1: Join us each week as we explore living life from
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  Speaker 1: the inside out. Welcome back to the Observatory Podcast. Today,
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  Speaker 1: Rae and I are going to sit down for a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a somber conversation because it involves me
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  Speaker 1: losing my brother, Jeff. He passed away a couple weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: coming up on a couple weeks ago, and going through
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  Speaker 1: the funeral and the connection with the family and all
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  Speaker 1: of those things are things we're going to discuss, as
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  Speaker 1: well as not getting stuck in the grief and how
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  Speaker 1: I can feel Jeff's presence still around and still here
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  Speaker 1: and influence and in the music. We're just going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit. So especially if you've
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  Speaker 1: lost a loved one or anything like that, hopefully this
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  Speaker 1: will be something that can give you some hope help
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  Speaker 1: you to not hold so tightly to maybe the grief
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  Speaker 1: that you're in and just allow yourself to feel it.
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  Speaker 1: So sit back, relax, and enjoy this podcast. Welcome back
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  Speaker 1: to the Observatory Podcast. Sitting down here with Ray again,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to have a conversation about some things that
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  Speaker 1: have been happening in our lives, especially lately around our families,
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  Speaker 1: and take a few minutes to do that. So welcome. Welcome, honey.
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  Speaker 2: It's always good to Find the time to come together
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  Speaker 2: and sit down. I always love, you know, sitting down
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  Speaker 2: and recording a podcast, especially when we kind of talk
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  Speaker 2: about what it is we want to share, what's on
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  Speaker 2: our heart, why that's meaningful, why that may be meaningful
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  Speaker 2: to others. And it's, you know, just that validation of
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  Speaker 2: sharing that we feel very connected to together, but also
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  Speaker 2: to the community that joins us here on the observatory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. you know, we all have, uh, universal experiences, uh,
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  Speaker 1: living through a life. And I got to have one
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  Speaker 1: of those experiences, uh, last week that was super hard. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: we got to go through this together. Um, my brother, Jeff, uh,
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  Speaker 1: passed away suddenly. He was in a, an ATV accident
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  Speaker 1: and was seriously injured and passed away. And it was
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  Speaker 1: totally unexpected, of course. Very shocking. Um, I have five brothers,
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  Speaker 1: so there's six of us, and he was the first
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  Speaker 1: one to go. He's third in age, but he was
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  Speaker 1: the first one to go. And there's kind of been
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  Speaker 1: this debate with my brothers and I. I'm the youngest,
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  Speaker 1: and my brother Steve is the oldest, and he's 11
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  Speaker 1: years older than me. And I'm 65, be 65 this month.
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  Speaker 1: So there's this wide range of ages between us, and
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  Speaker 1: Jeff was 71 when he passed, and we spent the
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  Speaker 1: whole of last week preparing for the funeral. My brother
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  Speaker 1: Paul and I went to Idaho where he was, where
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  Speaker 1: he passed away, in Ovid, Idaho, in the Bear Lake Valley,
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  Speaker 1: and he and I spent time with Jeff, Jeff's family,
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  Speaker 1: All of his children were there. His wife was there,
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  Speaker 1: and we got to sit with them, cry with them,
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  Speaker 1: hug them. They hugged us. They comforted us. I mean, Sandra,
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  Speaker 1: she comforted me probably as much as anyone there. She's
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  Speaker 1: been through a lot with this experience, and it was
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  Speaker 1: hard to lose my first brother.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's such a tender parting when it's unexpected.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you experienced this with your sister in 2020. So
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  Speaker 1: you had it and then I've had it now. And
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  Speaker 1: it's just....
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  Speaker 2: And we wanted to kind of share because I think it.
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  Speaker 2: One, it helps us come together in our humanity.
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  Speaker 1: And it also.
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  Speaker 2: helps us just take a pause in all that we're
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  Speaker 2: doing and remind ourselves some of the things that are
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  Speaker 2: really important. And Jeff had turned 71 in June of
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  Speaker 2: this year, so he was just barely 71. And his
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  Speaker 2: health had been a little bit up and down, but
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  Speaker 2: he was feeling great right now. We had just had
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful family reunion in July.
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  Speaker 1: He lost a bunch of weight. He'd had some real
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  Speaker 1: heart issues for like over a year. And that had
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  Speaker 1: cleared up. He was doing much, much better. He looked
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  Speaker 1: a lot, lot better. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so two older brothers and then also an older
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  Speaker 2: cousin brother.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so then Jeff, then the cousin brother.
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  Speaker 1: I have two cousins and my uncle passed away. And
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  Speaker 1: so they came to live with us when they were teenagers.
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  Speaker 1: So I.
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  Speaker 2: affectionately call them cousin brothers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah i and i just call them brothers i was
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  Speaker 1: i was six years old when they came so i
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  Speaker 1: call them brothers they feel like brothers to me.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's um you know he was also one
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  Speaker 2: that was very good at at kind of coordinating and
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  Speaker 2: organizing and you all were planning on gathering at the
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  Speaker 2: end of september.
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  Speaker 1: Yep and he had At his place.
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  Speaker 2: And he had started to kind of give you prompts
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  Speaker 2: as to some meaningful things he wanted to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: So he, you know, everyone in our families carry roles.
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  Speaker 2: And his was very pivotal in keeping you organized together
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  Speaker 2: and bringing you back together and having these brother reunions
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  Speaker 2: that you had. And so that's a tenderness that now
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  Speaker 2: is in question. Like, how will we come? When will
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  Speaker 2: it feel right to come back again? And those are
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  Speaker 2: really big realities of when someone is taken so quickly
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  Speaker 2: from your life without any warning. Not that it's easier
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  Speaker 2: in any way, but it just gives you that pause
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  Speaker 2: to say, I have to go through this grieving process.
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  Speaker 2: I have to figure how I feel out for a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, we were all just together. They all came, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: for the funeral. So we were all there. And we
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  Speaker 1: got to hug and cry and process together with all
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  Speaker 1: of our families as well. And I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to try not to get emotional.
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  Speaker 2: And it's okay that you do.
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 1: Losing Jeff was really... I think each one of us
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  Speaker 1: as brothers would say it was super impactful. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it's going to impact each one of us in
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  Speaker 1: a different way. But I told you this morning, it's
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  Speaker 1: given me a sense of urgency. For? That time could
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  Speaker 1: be short for any of us. And so... it's important
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  Speaker 1: to take advantage of that time. And what I've been
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  Speaker 1: doing over the last several years and what you've been doing,
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  Speaker 1: and we've both kind of been on this pathway, it's
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  Speaker 1: like there needs to be a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: sense of urgency about helping people find ways to heal.
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  Speaker 1: And we have found ways, we're finding ways, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: continue to find ways To heal. Because life, it's just
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  Speaker 1: a process of that. Our last podcast, we talked about preferences.
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  Speaker 1: And those preferences can sometimes create energies around our lives
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  Speaker 1: where we do need some healing from those things. Because
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  Speaker 1: we get stuck in the myriad of ways. But I
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  Speaker 1: feel a lot less stuck. And I... I feel closer
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  Speaker 1: to Jeff. I've felt closer to Jeff since he passed.
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  Speaker 1: And had an experience with my boys playing music right
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  Speaker 1: after he had passed. We were playing harmonicas together, and
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  Speaker 1: I just had this sense and this feeling that Jeff
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  Speaker 1: was there. I mean, he was a musician. He loved music. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he did. And, you know, my experience with music has
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  Speaker 1: been one of, very very spiritual journey with music not
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  Speaker 1: just playing music but being music and when I can
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  Speaker 1: get out of the way and go to that place
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  Speaker 1: I feel it feels different all I can say is
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  Speaker 1: it just feels different it was already good but it's
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  Speaker 1: better I feel like this confirmation or acceptance of what
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  Speaker 1: some of the things I had been telling Jeff about
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  Speaker 1: music that he now understands. And I don't really know
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  Speaker 1: how to explain that other than to say that getting
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  Speaker 1: present and going into music and allowing music to just
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  Speaker 1: play through you is different than playing music that already
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  Speaker 1: exists it's way less head and a lot more heart
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  Speaker 1: and in that space of playing from that in the
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  Speaker 1: heart space I've felt a connection to Jeff Um, not
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  Speaker 1: in a woo woo, he's in the room kind of way,
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  Speaker 1: but in a, the energy of Jeff was there.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I could sense his love for me. I could sense
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  Speaker 1: my love for him. Um, the, the adoration that we
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  Speaker 1: each have and have had for music while we, we
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  Speaker 1: each saw it differently. It's still the same thing. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was hard. Um, He passed away a week ago
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  Speaker 1: last Thursday. And the Monday after that, I'd taken the
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  Speaker 1: whole weekend and been processing that. And when Monday came,
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  Speaker 1: there was a video that I believe Jenny, his daughter,
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  Speaker 1: shared with us. And it was him singing at the
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  Speaker 1: Bear Lake County Fair. He'd just barely done that with
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  Speaker 1: his guitar playing and singing. And he was singing a
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  Speaker 1: John Prine song. about Monday. It's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: hard Monday, I think is the name of it. And, man.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a hard Monday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And all the preparations were being made for the funeral
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  Speaker 1: and for what was going to happen. And there was
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  Speaker 1: so much support in my family. We don't all see
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  Speaker 1: things the same. But there's no judgment going on and
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  Speaker 1: there's no shame. We're not all following the same path.
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  Speaker 1: We're not all religious or non-religious. It's a mishmash of
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  Speaker 1: all of it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it starts to give you kind of clarity
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  Speaker 2: around what family means. And certainly family means something different
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  Speaker 2: for every family. But it helps you within the boundaries
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  Speaker 2: or within the circle of your own family ask yourself,
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  Speaker 2: what does family mean to me? And do these relationships
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  Speaker 2: mean something to me? And what is it that they mean?
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  Speaker 2: Because these relationships have been witnesses to our life from
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  Speaker 2: the start. And while we may have ups and downs
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  Speaker 2: and we see the world differently and people take different
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  Speaker 2: paths and we have what I would call now learning
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  Speaker 2: experiences with each other, right? that if it weren't with
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  Speaker 2: a family member, you may not engage with them or
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  Speaker 2: you may not let it impact you. But because it's family,
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  Speaker 2: because it's inside that circle, those ups and downs are
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  Speaker 2: with you and you're weathering it. And that is what
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  Speaker 2: we all go through within the circle of our family.
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  Speaker 1: And you're weathering it together.
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  Speaker 2: And you weather it together. And when you can keep
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  Speaker 2: your arms around family, that unit, it's just beautifully designed
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  Speaker 2: that the unit of family brings to us so much
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  Speaker 2: experience that we learn through and that we can navigate
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  Speaker 2: because by its structure itself, it is supportive. Even when
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  Speaker 2: people are in the most challenging situations and I can
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  Speaker 2: only speak to the family's the family circles that I know,
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  Speaker 2: which is mine and now yours, those are the two
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  Speaker 2: family circles we have the opportunity and gift of being
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  Speaker 2: a part of. And those family circles, you know, they're
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  Speaker 2: very different, but yet they're so full of love and
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  Speaker 2: so full of support. And yes, they're also full of
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  Speaker 2: challenge at times and they're full of heartache, but it
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  Speaker 2: gives us the foundation that we then can show up
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  Speaker 2: in the world. and know that we're not alone.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to avoid that in life. No. That's
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  Speaker 1: the pattern of living.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's an agreement that we might have all
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  Speaker 2: had when we chose a life journey.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And we made that commitment of family. It's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like a commitment of soul saying, we will have this
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  Speaker 2: journey together. We will be one another's witness.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And we will understand what we each choose and what
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  Speaker 2: we struggle with and what we celebrate. And we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be, we're going to be there.
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  Speaker 1: For the ride.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, the timing of everything. My good friend,
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  Speaker 1: Carl Rabke does an event twice a year on Memorial
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  Speaker 1: Day and Labor Day weekends. And it's, it's an event
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  Speaker 1: to help process grief. And it's usually from the loss
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  Speaker 1: of a loved one. I think almost always it's involved
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  Speaker 1: in that. And so they bring in, I think there's
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  Speaker 1: probably about 30 people or so. And he's had me
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  Speaker 1: come in with him and Alex, the other guy that
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  Speaker 1: runs it with him. And we play drums. Vinny has
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  Speaker 1: joined us and played drums. Vinny Campillo has also joined
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  Speaker 1: us and done that before. But while we're doing that,
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  Speaker 1: it's really heavy drumming that's going on. And people are
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  Speaker 1: going up to, to this altar that they've created to just,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, memories, pictures of family members, uh,
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  Speaker 1: all of these different things. And they take time to
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  Speaker 1: go up there and process. And, um, it just so
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  Speaker 1: happened that that was this last Sunday at right after
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  Speaker 1: Jeff's funeral was on Friday. So I got to go
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  Speaker 1: to this event and witness all of these people that
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  Speaker 1: were there processing their grief. And, um, It's a really
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  Speaker 1: super powerful event, but this time, I mean, it was
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  Speaker 1: even more so because my heart was so tender having
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  Speaker 1: just had this experience of burying Jeff on Friday. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm witnessing people processing their grief, and Carl invited me
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  Speaker 1: to also go and participate and do that, and I
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  Speaker 1: was able to do that. And, you know, shed lots
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  Speaker 1: of tears, and I am... sad i would say uh
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  Speaker 1: i'm missing jeff i miss the fact that i can't
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  Speaker 1: pick up the phone calling right um there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things about that that i am really gonna miss
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  Speaker 1: and it seems surreal but i'm also grateful that he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't severely injured right um that he passed suddenly and
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  Speaker 1: uh He didn't, the way he left this life would
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  Speaker 1: have been the way he wanted to leave. It was
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  Speaker 1: like my dad left. My dad, he wasn't in an accident.
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  Speaker 1: He went and fed his horses and passed away from
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  Speaker 1: a heart attack.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And Jeff, same kind of thing. I mean, his wife
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  Speaker 1: was right around the corner. She didn't even know that
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  Speaker 1: it happened. The ambulances and everything had come and she
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  Speaker 1: didn't hear it or witness it. She was busy on
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  Speaker 1: a phone call. I didn't even know that it happened.
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  Speaker 1: It was an hour and a half later and it
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  Speaker 1: was 200 yards from their home that this accident happened. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the circumstances around it and all that really
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  Speaker 1: don't matter. As I went down to the crash site
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  Speaker 1: and looked at it, it was like, how could this
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  Speaker 1: have killed him? It didn't look that bad. But it
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  Speaker 1: was enough. And it just seemed like everything that was
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  Speaker 1: going on in Jeff's life and the things that he
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  Speaker 1: had been preparing and kind of had without saying it,
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  Speaker 1: had this intuition because he was, like you said, he
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  Speaker 1: was organizing the next brother's retreat. He was organizing a
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  Speaker 1: retreat with his sons. Which he had just completed. Just
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  Speaker 1: completed right before his death a week before. They all
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  Speaker 1: went to Coeur d'Alene, Idaho on an event together, he
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  Speaker 1: and his three sons, just the four of them. And...
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  Speaker 1: He went down and visited his son and his family
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  Speaker 1: in Arizona. He went down to Saratoga Springs here in
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  Speaker 1: Utah and visited his other daughter and their family. He
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  Speaker 1: had just been doing all of the stuff. The day
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  Speaker 1: he passed away, he was headed to Idaho Falls where
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  Speaker 1: his daughter's son was going to be going to the temple.
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  Speaker 1: The Mormon temple. To go on a mission. They would
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  Speaker 1: have left that day and gone and seen that, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't to be. So it's difficult to see that,
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  Speaker 1: but all of these things that he was doing in
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  Speaker 1: his life, playing so much music and sharing so much music,
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  Speaker 1: the thing that he was passionate about, it was music.
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  Speaker 1: I was passionate about music, and he was passionate about music.
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  Speaker 1: I still am. And I really feel that his influence
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  Speaker 1: is there And it isn't that I'll play music like
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  Speaker 1: him or the way he played music, but it's like
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  Speaker 1: this energy behind me saying, keep doing this. This is
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  Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. That's what I feel.
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  Speaker 2: It's a gift that has been given you to use
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  Speaker 2: as an expression while you are in this world.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one of the things. that we all, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think strive to.
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  Speaker 1: Search for.
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  Speaker 2: Right, we search for it, we strive to find it.
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  Speaker 2: We sometimes pursue different paths that take us down different avenues,
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  Speaker 2: but it is what brings the greatest joy to us
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  Speaker 2: when we align to it and can share it with others.
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  Speaker 2: and find that that is where my expression blooms. And
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  Speaker 2: that's definitely where his expression was at its best, and
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  Speaker 2: it's where yours is.
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  Speaker 1: It is. During his services, all of his children spoke,
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  Speaker 1: and his two sons also sang. Yeah, it was beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Devin and Dustin sang together, and then Dustin sang one solo.
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  Speaker 1: It was beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: His voice is angelic.
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  Speaker 1: The music was amazing. Music is a magical thing. So
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  Speaker 1: that was a deep thing that Jeff and I had
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  Speaker 1: a connection with. And we played, we jammed. He'd play
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  Speaker 1: his guitar and I'd play my flute and we would
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  Speaker 1: jam and just have fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I think as it's still very tender on your
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  Speaker 2: heart and hard, it has given you sort of a,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: not a wake-up call, but like just kind of Pay
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  Speaker 2: attention to this, Scott, to the way you spend your
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  Speaker 2: days and the time with the ones you love and
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  Speaker 2: that each day we've been given this wild, beautiful life
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  Speaker 2: and how we choose to use it each day. It matters.
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  Speaker 1: It does. And I want to be more productive in
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  Speaker 1: the things that I'm passionate about, music, mostly music, but
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  Speaker 1: other things too. And I just think it's important. I
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  Speaker 1: think I have a message that I want to get
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  Speaker 1: out there. And it doesn't have any words attached to it.
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  Speaker 1: It's about you can play music.
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  Speaker 2: It's an expression that you can express with music.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody can play music. And I think I have the
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  Speaker 1: capacity and gift to be able to teach that to
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  Speaker 1: people who don't think they can play music. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: you already have. Because that happened to me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. That's what I feel
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  Speaker 1: passionate about is opening that up for other people. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how that's going to unfold, but I
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  Speaker 1: know that it's important that it be shared.
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  Speaker 2: And it's an important aspect of the way you also
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  Speaker 2: honor Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And his love for music as well. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: way you'll keep him close to you.
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  Speaker 1: It is. And he's a driving force behind it, I
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  Speaker 1: can feel.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So it is a tenderness that we all experience. We
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  Speaker 2: don't get out of this life without experiencing it.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, you know, if you're listening
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  Speaker 1: to this and you're someone who's lost a loved one,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I remember someone, when you lost your sister, Jean, we
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  Speaker 1: had one of our good friends come over and sit
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: down on the couch and talk to you about it.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, don't get stuck in the grief.
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  Speaker 2: Right, because I didn't want to get out of bed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't really want to get up for a
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  Speaker 1: few days. And it really was, uh, difficult with your
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  Speaker 1: sister because it was, didn't have to happen. It wasn't,
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  Speaker 1: it was an accident, you know, a surgery that went
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  Speaker 1: south and, um, but so unexpected. And she was like Jeff,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: kind of this bridge.
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  Speaker 2: She was the oldest one.
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  Speaker 1: She was the oldest and the wise one and the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: peacemaker and, of that. Jeff had a lot of that too.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: He bridges, there's a lot of wide range of differences
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  Speaker 1: between all of us brothers. And he was kind of
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the bridge between the two. He was the bridge between
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  Speaker 1: the rebels and the compliers.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And it, you know, that day, because it can be,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: it can be easy or easier to get lost in
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: the grief because the grief is so heavy when you
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  Speaker 2: when that moment first happens, when you first lose them,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and that separation is so hard. And as you sit
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: with it, and as you understand that life moves forward,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: that the best way to honor them is to continue
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to live life, not get stuck in life. Because they
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: would want that. They would want you to continue living
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and to be expressing and living your full self while
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: still here and once you can get to that there
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  Speaker 2: you know it's a roller coaster there are days when
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the longing and the sorrow is so great you know
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: or you'll hear their voice you'll hear you'll hear the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: song that he's saying and it'll take you back to
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a moment and.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Roller coaster is the perfect word i've been using that
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: a lot lately.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just it is the It is something that
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the heart goes through to teach us, but it's an
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: experience that makes us stronger and makes us more committed
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  Speaker 2: to living while we're here and living with fullness for
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: all those that are still here with us and that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: we love.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's take advantage of the time you have, right?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow is promised to no one, as they say.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not afraid to leave this world. And I'm
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: not afraid to not accomplish what I want to accomplish.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: But what I do want to do is just every
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: day strive to do more and strive to help more
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and learn more and be curious as we continually talk about.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And do it together. Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I want to still do this ride with you.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I do too. A little more traveling to do probably.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: More traveling. We're not in the no-go stage yet.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Nope. Not in the no-go.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: But we're glad to be back with you. We're glad
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: to be in a season of new podcasts. And we
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  Speaker 2: welcome you here. We welcome your thoughts. Send us any
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: messages that you may have or questions. We're more than
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: happy to help. And we want to be here for
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the community. And you're a very rich part of our lives.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: So welcome.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: You are.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: We so appreciate and are grateful for these last four years.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And having this opportunity to be part of this podcast
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and share this time that you and I get to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: have together. Yeah. And having some amazing conversations. So much,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: much more to come.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: We can't wait for the next four.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: We cannot. So. Five years next year. That'll be a milestone.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: We'll have to do some kind of giveaway. Yes, of course.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, thank you for joining us and listening
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to us today. So until next time.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: You and me, sitting in the back of my memory.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Like a honeybee, buzzing around a glass of sweet chablis
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Radio's on and the windows rolled up and my mind's
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: rolled down Headlights like silver moons rolling on.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: The ground.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: We made love in every way love can be made
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: We made time seem like time could never fade.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Friday night we both made the guitars hum.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Saturday made Sunday feel like it.
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  Speaker 3: Would never come.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Gonna be a long Monday. Sitting all alone on a
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: mountain by a river that has no end. It's gonna
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: be a long Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Stuck like a tick of a clock.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: It's coming round again.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Soul to soul, heart to heart, cheek to cheek. Come
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: on baby, give me a kiss to last all week.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Thought of you.
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  Speaker 1: Leaving again brings me down.
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  Speaker 4: Promise of your sweet love turns me around Gonna be
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: a long Monday Sitting all alone on a mound by
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: a river that has no end It's gonna be a
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: long Monday Stuck like a tick of a clock that's
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: come unwound again And.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Again Thank you.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Seven deadly sins sitting at the bottom of the deep
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: blue sea.
• 29:54
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