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The Rita Panahi Show | 23 September · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: Starting right now, The Rita Panahy Show.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to The Rita Panahy Show.
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Speaker 3: I'm Danika DiGiorgio filling in tonight for Rita. Coming up
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Speaker 3: on the show, Donald Trump delivers a major blow to
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albanese's tech agenda. The panel will join me to
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Speaker 3: discuss the day's top headlines. Chinese President Xi Jinping prepares
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Speaker 3: for his first state visit to the US in 11 years.
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Speaker 2: Peter Jennings will have more on that.
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Speaker 3: Adam B Coleman will have the latest from the US,
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Speaker 3: including the President's attack on.
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Speaker 2: The International Criminal Court and UNESCO.
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Speaker 3: Earl Spencer's delivered a grovelling apology to Piers Morgan. Dede
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Speaker 3: Dunleavy will have all your royal entertainment news. And of course,
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Speaker 3: lefties losing it, Lord Farquaad is back, ladies and gentlemen,
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Speaker 3: with another new cause.
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Speaker 4: Silence is complicity and you cannot be neutral in a genocide.
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Speaker 3: But first, Donald Trump has delivered a major blow to
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albanese's tech agenda. Now, after the Prime Minister signed
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Speaker 3: a statement with more than 20 world leaders calling for
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Speaker 3: an international framework on AI safeguards, the US President used
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Speaker 3: his address at the UN General Assembly to declare that
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Speaker 3: he totally rejects any attempt to construct a globalist scheme
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Speaker 3: to control artificial intelligence.
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Speaker 5: Whoever wins, SI wins. Whoever wins, super intelligent, wins. That's
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Speaker 5: the group that wins. And we're leading now over China
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Speaker 5: by a lot, and everyone else. And we're going to
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Speaker 5: keep it that way. We're going to keep it very,
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Speaker 5: very straight and very strong. I'm not going to stifle
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Speaker 5: growth of something that will be bigger than the Industrial Revolution.
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Speaker 5: Many say bigger than the Industrial Revolution or the Internet itself.
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Speaker 5: We're going to encourage it, not rein it in.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Prue McSween from Verve Communications and
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Speaker 3: former Liberal MP Nicole Flint.
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Speaker 2: Hi to both of you. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: joining me on the show.
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Speaker 3: And, Nicole, is this a blow? Who is in the
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Speaker 3: right corner here.
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Speaker 2: Do you think?
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Speaker 6: Well, it's certainly not Anthony Albanese.
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Speaker 7: Wouldn't you consult with the world's biggest power, especially when
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Speaker 7: it comes to all things tech, which is the United
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Speaker 7: States of America? Wouldn't you get your people to talk
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Speaker 7: to President Donald Trump's people and try and get them
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Speaker 7: on board? Look, we do, of course, need to have
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Speaker 7: some regulation of AI. There are all sorts of challenges
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Speaker 7: and threats. However, we also need to make sure that
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Speaker 7: we do stay ahead of the game and that the
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Speaker 7: Western world stays ahead of the game on this technology. Look,
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Speaker 7: I honestly don't know what the Prime Minister is doing
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Speaker 7: whilst he's over there in the USA, apart from receiving
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Speaker 7: awards that he certainly doesn't deserve.
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Speaker 6: He's clearly not talking to the Trump.
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Speaker 7: Administration and I just think that's embarrassing for Australia once again.
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Speaker 6: Thanks, Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Albo. But, you know, he's a global citizen now,
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Speaker 2: of course.
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Speaker 3: He's got bigger priorities than this country. Prue, look, I mean,
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Speaker 3: I agree with Nicole.
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Speaker 2: I mean, where is the level of communications?
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Speaker 8: Well, clearly he only got what a sort of a selfie,
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Speaker 8: I think, with Trump. That was all he could win
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Speaker 8: for himself. Look, the guy is sounding like a hollow man.
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Speaker 8: You know, he's setting himself up as the global guardian
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Speaker 8: of all things digital. And he hasn't got a bloody clue.
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Speaker 8: And he's muscled up to a few of the minor
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Speaker 8: other countries around the world. But as you said, you know,
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Speaker 8: the major player is He can't even get a Guernsey in. And,
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Speaker 8: you know, we look at what, in fact, has happened
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Speaker 8: with Albanese's digital guardianship. You know, he's got an under-16
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Speaker 8: duty of care policy that isn't working. Every kid has
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Speaker 8: been able to sidetrack it. And now, of course, he's
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Speaker 8: looking at trying to censor all of the rest of us.
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Speaker 6: So.
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Speaker 8: His legitimacy is totally questionable and on the line and
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Speaker 8: I just think, you know, the guy needs to fade away.
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Speaker 1: His hubris is unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And he's swanning about the
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Speaker 3: UN thinking that, you know, he's got it all under control,
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Speaker 3: Mr Worldwide, as I like to call him. Now, look,
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Speaker 3: new polling shows that Australians have lost confidence in investing, selling,
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Speaker 3: renting and buying homes. So that's 56% of Aussies think
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Speaker 3: it is a bad time to rent. 44% believe it's
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Speaker 3: a bad time to sell a property and 45% believe
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Speaker 3: it is not the right time to purchase an investment.
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Speaker 3: That's according to a SEC Newgate Mood of the Nation survey. Nicole, interestingly,
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Speaker 3: the poll also found 68% of voters fear the country
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Speaker 3: is moving in the wrong direction.
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Speaker 2: I mean, who would have thought?
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Speaker 3: And all these months later after the budget, those taxes
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Speaker 3: are still having impacts on the housing market.
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Speaker 7: Yes, when will Labor admit that they got this so
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Speaker 7: horribly wrong?
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Speaker 6: Rents have gone through the roof.
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Speaker 7: We've got almost record low new homebuyers being able to
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Speaker 7: get into the market. We've got investors not investing.
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Speaker 6: We've got house prices crashing. This is such.
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Speaker 7: a disastrous debacle, and yet Jim Chalmers, the Treasurer, and
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Speaker 7: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese have done nothing to arrest this
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Speaker 7: absolutely shocking situation. And we're about to see probably not
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Speaker 7: one but two interest rate rises. So we've got Australians
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Speaker 7: who do own a home or who have invested to
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Speaker 7: provide for their future or their kids' future, Looking at
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Speaker 7: having to pay even more on their mortgage, we've got
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Speaker 7: people who have invested, especially first home buyers, heading into
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Speaker 7: negative equity and they're seeing interest rates about to go up.
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Speaker 7: This is an absolute disaster and they need to acknowledge
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Speaker 7: they got it horribly wrong. Whether it was the sheer
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Speaker 7: stupidity or whether they thought they could get away with it,
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Speaker 7: I don't know. Probably a little bit of both. But
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Speaker 7: this has to be fixed. Everyone is paying the price
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Speaker 7: for Labor's Oh, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: And, you know, months later, months after this Budget Pro,
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Speaker 3: we are still dealing with these housing issues. And also,
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Speaker 3: not to mention, Labor's not achieved any of its housing
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Speaker 3: goals as it is. We can't get everyday Aussies into
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Speaker 3: homes and no wonder confidence is at an all-time low.
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Speaker 8: We are facing such a crisis. There's no wonder there's anxiety.
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Speaker 8: This is the stuff of nightmares. When you think about it,
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Speaker 8: you know, everywhere you look, whether you're facing the interest
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Speaker 8: rate rises, the fact that, you know, if you're an investor,
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Speaker 8: You wouldn't want to touch it because policy is changing
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Speaker 8: all the time. And then you've got the value of
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Speaker 8: your properties decreasing. So renters can't find accommodation. Why wouldn't
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Speaker 8: you be having sleepless nights? And why would you invest
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Speaker 8: in a property as an investor when you know that
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Speaker 8: this government can't be trusted in any way?
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Speaker 1: They'll change their position again.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's just a nightmare.
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Speaker 8: And Michelle Bullock needs to really, you know, name what
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Speaker 8: the problem is, and that's the government and its spending.
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Speaker 3: Well, don't forget last week she said that there wasn't
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Speaker 3: any modelling when it comes to spending. I mean, that exchange,
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Speaker 3: I think it was with Simon Kennedy, was just absolutely breathtaking, really.
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Speaker 2: But let's talk about that.
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Speaker 3: The RBA Governor, Michelle Bullock, she's warned that the unemployment
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Speaker 3: rate will have to rise as high as 5% to
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Speaker 3: rein in inflation. And, Nicole, you know, you mentioned as
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Speaker 3: well interest rates there. There are even predictions that we
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Speaker 3: could see at least three interest rate rises between now
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Speaker 3: and May next year.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how many more warnings the.
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Speaker 3: RBA has to give Jim Chalmers before he wakes up
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Speaker 3: to his record spending, but he doesn't want to know.
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Speaker 2: About it at all.
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Speaker 6: No, he doesn't.
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Speaker 7: This is the sort of very real-life pain that the
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Speaker 7: Australian people are going through right now. So we've got
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Speaker 7: the cost-of-living crisis, we have property prices dropping, we've got
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Speaker 7: interest rates going.
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Speaker 6: Up, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 7: It is beyond belief that we have a Reserve Bank
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Speaker 7: governor saying that unemployment has to rise to get inflation
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Speaker 7: and the economy under control. This is firmly and fully
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Speaker 7: on Labor's their inability to stop spending, their inability to
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Speaker 7: stop employing more bureaucrats and wasting more taxpayers' money. What
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Speaker 7: an appalling outcome that people will be without a job
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Speaker 7: during one of the greatest cost-of-living crises we've seen in
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Speaker 7: a very long time.
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Speaker 6: I just really have no words.
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Speaker 7: But, you know, it's sort of like their renewable green
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Speaker 7: nightmare situation. You know, we've got record high power prices,
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Speaker 7: terrible supply issues. They can't build enough power to power
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Speaker 7: the country. It's not dissimilar to saying, well, actually, we
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Speaker 7: need more people to not have a job.
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Speaker 6: To get our economy working again.
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Speaker 7: It just beggars belief, it makes no sense, and this
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Speaker 7: is firmly on Labor.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: I just don't understand, Prue, how we have gotten into
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Speaker 3: a position where we have to say, yeah, we need
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Speaker 3: higher unemployment in order to rein in inflation.
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Speaker 8: Well, this is supposed to be the so-called party of
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Speaker 8: the worker.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 8: And yet now we're looking at all these workers facing
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Speaker 8: unemployment because, as Nick said, with all the energy issues,
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Speaker 8: you know... The Labor Party thinks that business is the enemy.
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Speaker 8: Who do they think employs people? But they put so
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Speaker 8: many hurdles in front of employers. And obviously now, because
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Speaker 8: of their spending, the fact that productivity is being impacted
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Speaker 8: by the industrial relations, you know, sweeteners, whether it be,
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Speaker 8: you know, the constraints that unions are placing on employers
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Speaker 8: or the high pay rises that, you know, just seem
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Speaker 8: to be written into everybody's employment contract, irrespective of what
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Speaker 8: the employer can afford. So, you know, they're happy to
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Speaker 8: let unemployment go up. You know, is this what we
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Speaker 8: want for this country? You know, it's just, this is
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Speaker 8: just so deplorable and Honestly, if any of the words decide,
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Speaker 8: the traditional voters for Labor decide that they should park
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Speaker 8: their vote with them, well, they're signing their death warrant, really.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a sad, it's a real sad state of affairs, really.
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Speaker 3: And don't forget the intergenerational report that was handed down
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Speaker 3: this week said 40 years of deficit.
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Speaker 2: So we're in an absolute mess. Now, look, I'm going
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Speaker 2: to ask a question.
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Speaker 3: Has the national energy debate firing gun finally been started?
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Speaker 3: The coalition has set out eight priorities in its Scrap
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Speaker 3: Net Zero Act that it would introduce within 30 days
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Speaker 3: of winning power.
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Speaker 2: I'll take you through some of those on the list.
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Speaker 3: So repeal the Climate Change Act 2022, which would remove
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Speaker 3: the legislated net zero emissions targets. remove safeguard mechanism, repeal
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Speaker 3: the new vehicle efficiency standard, revoke four offshore wind energy zones,
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Speaker 3: repeal all legislative prohibition on nuclear energy.
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Speaker 6: Hallelujah.
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Speaker 2: I think that's certainly one of the big ones here.
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Speaker 3: But, Nicole, look, we need to have an energy debate
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Speaker 3: in this country. Labor can't have a debate on it.
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Speaker 3: We saw last time they had the nuclear scare campaigns.
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Speaker 3: But what do you make of this plan from the Coalition?
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Speaker 7: Well, it is a blessed relief to see a really
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Speaker 7: strong policy and a very thorough policy from the Liberal
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Speaker 7: Party and the Nationals. This is exactly the sort of
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Speaker 7: debate the country needs to be having. And with everything
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Speaker 7: we've just discussed in this segment tonight, we need to
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Speaker 7: be focusing on getting every single cost down and under
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Speaker 7: control that we possibly can for the Australian people and
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Speaker 7: for businesses. And one of the most crucial things crucial
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Speaker 7: ways to do that is by getting our power costs
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Speaker 7: under control. We are one of the most blessed countries
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Speaker 7: in the world in terms of natural power resources. We
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Speaker 7: need to be using them. We need to have reliable
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Speaker 7: and affordable power, and I'm delighted to see this policy
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Speaker 7: announcement from the Coalition, and I can't wait... to see
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Speaker 7: them taking the fight to Labor.
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Speaker 2: I agree.
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Speaker 3: Look, I just hope, Prue, that they prosecute this because
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Speaker 3: we've seen during the last two elections there's been this
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Speaker 3: idea of nuclear, but it almost petered out before the election.
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Speaker 3: They didn't want to go further with it.
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Speaker 2: They were too scared. So what do they need to
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Speaker 2: do to sell this?
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Speaker 8: Well, the problem's going to be they shouldn't have to
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Speaker 8: do much because, frankly, every time we open our bills,
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Speaker 8: whatever the bills are, we see that the current policy
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Speaker 8: is toxic and hurting us all. But the problem is that,
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Speaker 8: you know, Bozo Bowen, when he comes back from gallivanting
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Speaker 8: around the world, the ill Presidente, will start spinning like
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Speaker 8: crazy and scaring people about nuclear, for example, which made,
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Speaker 8: you know, the former opposition leader, Dutton.
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Speaker 2: run.
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Speaker 6: Scared, they have to be gutsy.
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Speaker 8: They have to plead the case, plead the argument and
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Speaker 8: stop demonising, as they are proposing, coal and gas, because
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Speaker 8: we need that baseload power. And I think people are slowly,
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Speaker 8: slowly realising that the policy has to change and that
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Speaker 8: we need something like this. And good on the Liberals
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Speaker 8: and the Coalition for having a go.
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Speaker 2: Well, look what happened in Spain and Portugal.
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Speaker 3: If you want to go down the renewables-only fantasy, blackout
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Speaker 3: central over in Europe. That is where we're heading if
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Speaker 3: we don't have a debate. Almost out of time, but
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Speaker 3: I just want to get your thoughts on this. Liberal
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Speaker 3: Senator Alex Antic is predicting that the Coalition and One
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Speaker 3: Nation will need to cooperate. at the next election to
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Speaker 3: beat Labor. Nicoli says that this is his own view,
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Speaker 3: but also Barnaby Joyce earlier saying that he's spoken to
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Speaker 3: senior Liberals about providing the coalition with supply and confidence
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Speaker 3: should the opposition be successful in a minority government at
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Speaker 3: the next election.
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Speaker 2: Is he right?
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Speaker 7: Well, Danica, as one of the people that apparently Senator
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Speaker 7: Antic and his supporters want to see kicked out of
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Speaker 7: the Liberal Party, that's me, I would actually like to
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Speaker 7: see Senator Antic work more cooperatively with our Liberal Party
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Speaker 7: members rather than people from other parties.
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Speaker 6: So I think that's all I'll say on the matter
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Speaker 6: for the moment.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair point. Prue, almost out of time, but would
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Speaker 2: love more for you as well. It's the only solution.
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Speaker 8: If you want to change this government, they have to
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Speaker 8: get together and we.
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Speaker 6: Have to park our votes.
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Speaker 8: with one nation, with a preference to liberals or the
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Speaker 8: other way around. And that way we might be able
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Speaker 8: to kick this shocking government out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, that's... Get rid of the socialists.
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Speaker 3: Oh, please, that would be fantastic. Nicole Flint, Prue McSween,
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Speaker 3: great to see you both as always. Thanks very much
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Speaker 3: for joining me on the show. Well, Chinese President Xi
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Speaker 3: Jinping is preparing to head to Washington for a three-day
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Speaker 3: summit with President Donald Trump. It will be Xi's first
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Speaker 3: state visit to the US in 11 years and it
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Speaker 3: comes as the two countries are locked in a race
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Speaker 3: to dominate the AI and technology industries. Joining me now
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Speaker 3: is News24 defence analyst Peter Jennings. Peter, good to see you.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me. Look, AI will be top of
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Speaker 3: the agenda. I do want to get to that. But
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Speaker 3: what are the key issues at stake for the pair?
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Speaker 9: Well, I think there's a lot of concern that somehow
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Speaker 9: Trump and Xi might cut a deal which is going
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Speaker 9: to do damage to America's Asia-Pacific allies. My own sense
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Speaker 9: is that I think that's pretty unlikely. They would like
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Speaker 9: to be able to maybe extend the truce on tariffs,
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Speaker 9: which has been in play for a number of months
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Speaker 9: and saving something like $ 30 billion. But really, at the
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Speaker 9: end of the day, what I think both leaders are
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Speaker 9: looking for is no big mistakes. Xi Jinping does not
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Speaker 9: want to find himself caught in some sort of random
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Speaker 9: Trump engagement with the media. So everything's going to be
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Speaker 9: really pre-cooked. And I think it'll be more about the
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Speaker 9: symbolism of how it looks rather than any deep substance
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Speaker 9: that's likely to come out, because, frankly, the two countries
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Speaker 9: are just too far apart on too many issues.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. They're like chalk and cheese. I want
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Speaker 2: to talk about AI that I just mentioned.
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Speaker 3: So the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besant, said that the two
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Speaker 3: countries are aiming to establish a communications line to manage
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Speaker 3: AI incidents. He defended the importance of opening AI talks
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Speaker 3: with Beijing. But, Peter, both are obviously locked in a
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Speaker 3: race here. They want to try and be ahead of
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Speaker 3: the curve when it comes to the development of artificial intelligence,
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Speaker 3: which is largely unregulated around the world and it's causing
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Speaker 3: so many problems.
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Speaker 2: Can they ever really come to an agreement on this?
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Speaker 9: No, I don't think so. I think there is a
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Speaker 9: strong impulse on the part of both countries to want
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Speaker 9: to get to artificial general intelligence first. That phrase means
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Speaker 9: a form of artificial intelligence which is basically going to
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Speaker 9: be smarter than all of us with very broad and
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Speaker 9: wide applications, including in military areas. And I think the
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Speaker 9: spur to get there, to that technology... it's probably somewhere
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Speaker 9: between two and five years away, is going to keep
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Speaker 9: driving the United States and China. Neither of them, frankly,
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Speaker 9: want to be regulated. And they certainly won't be interested
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Speaker 9: in being controlled by Anthony Albanese and a whole bunch
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Speaker 9: of price-taker countries, which were the people that signed the
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Speaker 9: statement that Albanese was talking up earlier today. Frankly, they're
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Speaker 9: not going to let themselves be constrained by that. So
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Speaker 9: the competition will continue. I think America probably does have
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Speaker 9: the edge over China in terms of the technology and
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Speaker 9: the investment into the technology. And that suits Australia, Janneke,
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Speaker 9: I have to say. It would be a very concerning
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Speaker 9: world if China won the AI race.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, look, absolutely. I totally agree.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned Anthony Albanese, and I just want to talk
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Speaker 3: about Australia's tech ambitions because Donald Trump seems to have
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Speaker 3: really dealt a major blow in that agenda. He said
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Speaker 3: that he will oppose a push to create an international
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Speaker 3: body to oversee AI regulation. So, Peter, we're not on
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Speaker 3: the same page as our biggest ally when it comes
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Speaker 3: to artificial intelligence.
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Speaker 2: How big of a problem is that?
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Speaker 9: It should be a big problem, as a matter of fact,
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Speaker 9: because I think what's very interesting is the countries that
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Speaker 9: didn't sign that statement. The UK is not on it.
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Speaker 9: Japan wasn't on it. South Korea wasn't on it. So
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Speaker 9: a number of the United States' key allies. And, of course,
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Speaker 9: China wasn't on it because they're not going to be constrained.
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Speaker 9: We're really talking about countries that are going to be
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Speaker 9: customers for AI rather than people who are actually pushing
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Speaker 9: the limits of the technology industry. Yes, Australia has some
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Speaker 9: good designers, but we're not in the front rank of
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Speaker 9: AI technology, I have to say. So it struck me
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Speaker 9: as being a bit of a thought bubble, something that
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Speaker 9: was invented by the Finns, believe it or not, and
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Speaker 9: which Australia signed up to in the week of the
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Speaker 9: UN General Assembly meeting. But not a lot of detail
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Speaker 9: about how it would actually work. And frankly, when I
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Speaker 9: hear Albanese talk about artificial intelligence, I get the sense
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Speaker 9: that he's just not across it. I don't think he
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Speaker 9: really understands what he's talking about in this area.
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Speaker 2: No, that is certainly very clear.
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Speaker 3: Look, it's been a huge week, hasn't it, at the
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Speaker 3: United Nations. Donald Trump gave his big speech overnight to
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Speaker 3: the General Assembly. And he really used it, I mean,
19:12
Speaker 3: he spoke about a number of matters, but he also
19:15
Speaker 3: used it to issue a warning to Iran. He told
19:17
Speaker 3: world leaders he is mulling a big decision on whether
19:20
Speaker 3: to annihilate the country and drive the nation into hell
19:23
Speaker 3: with no chance of survival if it refuses to make a.
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Speaker 2: Deal to end the war.
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Speaker 3: The thing is, Peter, is we've heard so many warnings
19:30
Speaker 3: and so many threats by Donald Trump since this war
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Speaker 3: began in February. I mean, it's almost getting a little
19:37
Speaker 3: bit hard to take him seriously. I mean, how can
19:41
Speaker 3: the world be saying world leaders have to listen when
19:43
Speaker 3: he's not actually acting on any of his threats?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with you there. He's kind of devalued
19:52
Speaker 9: his own currency with these wild swings between, well, on
19:56
Speaker 9: the one hand, I could destroy the place, but on
19:58
Speaker 9: the other hand, we're just about to cut a deal.
20:01
Speaker 9: And neither of those options really seems very believable right now.
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Speaker 9: I think the most believable option is that the US
20:11
Speaker 9: and Iran are going to be stalemated for a considerable
20:14
Speaker 9: period of time into the future. The US does not
20:19
Speaker 9: actually now have the military wherewithal in the region to
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Speaker 9: be able to push Iran into hell, if that's the
20:26
Speaker 9: phrase that the president is using. They'd need to get
20:29
Speaker 9: another carrier battle group into the region. And so we're
20:34
Speaker 9: just going to see a stalemate. And what that means
20:36
Speaker 9: to Nika is... significantly constrained supplies of fuel coming out
20:41
Speaker 9: of the Strait of Hormuz. It's something less than 10%
20:44
Speaker 9: of what typically would go through the Straits every day.
20:47
Speaker 9: That's going to keep oil, petrol and diesel prices high.
20:53
Speaker 9: I think it's going to do Trump damage in the
20:55
Speaker 9: midterm elections. And then as we get into 2027, he's
20:59
Speaker 9: going to have to think hard about what's the military
21:01
Speaker 9: strategy from here on. I don't actually see anything coherent
21:06
Speaker 9: coming out of the Oval Office right now.
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Speaker 3: No, and it's interesting because the MAGA base are so
21:11
Speaker 3: split on this as well. Some say, well, he should
21:14
Speaker 3: have gone hard earlier. Others say we are heading into.
21:16
Speaker 2: A war, this is a disaster.
21:18
Speaker 3: And we've only just heard from Donald Trump in the
21:19
Speaker 3: last few weeks saying that he won't do anything until
21:22
Speaker 3: after the midterms. But, again, it's just so difficult to know,
21:25
Speaker 3: given that there has been so many threats that haven't
21:28
Speaker 3: really gone anywhere since February. Peter Jennings, I really appreciate
21:33
Speaker 3: your insights as always. Thank you so much for joining
21:36
Speaker 3: us on the show this evening.
21:38
Speaker 10: Thanks, Tanika.
21:39
Speaker 3: Still to come, lefties losing it, plus the US President's
21:42
Speaker 3: triumphant speech to the United Nations where he issued warnings
21:46
Speaker 3: to the International.
21:47
Speaker 2: Criminal Court and UNESCO.
21:49
Speaker 3: Adam B Coleman will have the latest from the US next.
22:00
Speaker 3: Time now for lefties losing it. Great news, folks. Lord
22:04
Speaker 3: Farquaad is back. Sorry, I mean Greta Thunberg. And attention,
22:08
Speaker 3: Ed Sheeran, the Scandinavian doom merchant, is coming for you.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Ed Sheeran should be held accountable for his lack
22:15
Speaker 4: of spine. But remember that we have to continuously apply
22:19
Speaker 4: the same pressure on all those complicit in all genocides.
22:24
Speaker 4: The bigger your platform and your access to resources, the
22:27
Speaker 4: bigger your responsibility. but also on ourselves and the institutions
22:32
Speaker 4: that we are part of, where we have to push
22:34
Speaker 4: for boycotts, sanctions and divestments. If we ourselves are not
22:39
Speaker 4: stepping out of our comfort zones, we are not doing enough.
22:43
Speaker 4: And remember, silence is complicity and you cannot be neutral
22:48
Speaker 4: in a genocide.
22:50
Speaker 3: Forget the Grammy Awards, it seems Ed Sheeran is getting
22:52
Speaker 3: his performance review from Greta and her haircut. Now, this
22:56
Speaker 3: one is really going to rile up the lefties. Judge Judy,
23:00
Speaker 3: fresh from her retirement announcement, just dropped this truth bomb.
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Speaker 10: I consider America my home. America has been good to me.
23:07
Speaker 10: I think that it's the greatest country in the world.
23:10
Speaker 10: If you don't like this country, go somewhere else. Don't
23:13
Speaker 10: come to the greatest country in the world, the most
23:16
Speaker 10: successful country in the world, and say, I want to
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Speaker 10: change it.
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Speaker 3: No, you can't possibly love your own country. I mean,
23:25
Speaker 3: the left are going to probably say she's racist next.
23:28
Speaker 3: Now to Kamala Harris, who is apparently burdened again by
23:31
Speaker 3: what has been. She appears to be taking the scenic
23:34
Speaker 3: route to get to the end of a sentence to
23:36
Speaker 3: defend DEI.
23:39
Speaker 1: Here's another fact.
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Speaker 11: The attack on DEI is an attack on maternal care.
23:47
Speaker 1: An attack on DEI.
23:51
Speaker 11: To recognise diversity, equity and inclusion is an attack by
23:56
Speaker 11: definition on maternal care.
23:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, Abdul El-Sayed was falling asleep.
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Speaker 3: Look, I think there was a point in there somewhere. Unfortunately,
24:04
Speaker 3: it didn't quite survive the journey. Somewhere between DEI and
24:08
Speaker 3: maternal care, I think that sentence filed its own missing
24:12
Speaker 3: persons report.
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Speaker 2: How many drinks have you had today, Kamala?
24:16
Speaker 3: Now to Prince Harry, who cannot possibly be taken seriously
24:19
Speaker 3: with his homoerotic hands.
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Speaker 12: I've never met a well-child nurse who isn't 100,000% committed
24:26
Speaker 12: to not just the child, but the entire family unit.
24:29
Speaker 12: It's the thing that makes me most proud about well-child.
24:31
Speaker 12: And I always think, wow, again, the emotional support that
24:34
Speaker 12: they need in order to be able to do their job,
24:37
Speaker 12: knowing full well that some of these children they're looking after.
24:39
Speaker 12: are not going to survive the year, that's heavy.
24:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, Harry's hands have officially left the royal family too.
24:45
Speaker 2: They're completely independent.
24:47
Speaker 3: And look, it is very clear that the past few
24:49
Speaker 3: weeks since he was scolded by King Charles as being
24:51
Speaker 3: a mere private citizen have really taken the toll. Harry
24:56
Speaker 3: is back with a microphone in hand and crying again.
24:58
Speaker 13: To all the mums and dads, most of us will
25:02
Speaker 13: never truly know the emotional ups and downs of your day.
25:06
Speaker 13: But it's happening again. But that doesn't help, it makes
25:13
Speaker 13: it worse.
25:15
Speaker 2: And it's dire.
25:16
Speaker 3: Harry has even made a frank admission that his own
25:18
Speaker 3: children are miserable.
25:20
Speaker 1: Do you talk to Archie and Lilibet about the kids
25:24
Speaker 1: that you meet here? How are you sort of passing
25:26
Speaker 1: on that empathy and compassion that you've shown over.
25:29
Speaker 2: All these years?
25:29
Speaker 12: Yeah, so breakfast this morning, they had a bit of
25:33
Speaker 12: Monday blues. It was always Sunday night blues when you're
25:37
Speaker 12: being sent away to boarding school, I think I was.
25:40
Speaker 2: Yes, someone call Oprah. Archie doesn't like Mondays.
25:43
Speaker 3: Now, remember the good old days where Fashion Week was
25:46
Speaker 3: actually about fashion? Well, pregnant Little Mix singer Leigh-Anne Pinnock
25:50
Speaker 3: has put a lactation special on this year's runway.
26:06
Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to be in the front row, would you?
26:09
Speaker 3: Now to Miss Rachel, who is having an extremely public hallucination. Yesterday,
26:13
Speaker 3: she was teaching kids their ABCs. Today, she's teaching immigration policy.
26:19
Speaker 14: Black people being lynched, Haitian people having to wear ankle monitors,
26:25
Speaker 14: getting TPS taken away, kids in detention centres where the
26:30
Speaker 14: water makes them sick, where the medical neglect is abused.
26:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, the wheels on the bus go round and round
26:36
Speaker 3: and have fallen off Miss Rachel completely.
26:39
Speaker 2: Now, look, we've got to talk.
26:40
Speaker 3: About Bernie Sanders, who seems to be having a hard
26:43
Speaker 3: time accepting immigration policy himself. He's compared Republicans deporting criminal
26:49
Speaker 3: illegal aliens to the Holocaust.
26:52
Speaker 1: Trump didn't invent this.
26:53
Speaker 15: This is what demagogues always do. You pick a powerless minority, OK,
26:58
Speaker 15: and you go after them and you blame them for
27:01
Speaker 15: all of the problems. In the 1930s in Europe, it
27:04
Speaker 15: was the Jews, it was the gypsies. Throughout American history,
27:09
Speaker 15: it has been blacks, it's been Asians. You know, we
27:11
Speaker 15: had an Asian.
27:11
Speaker 1: Expulsion act in America.
27:13
Speaker 15: You pick a minority and you say, hey, you can't
27:16
Speaker 15: afford to feed your family? It's the undocumented people who
27:21
Speaker 15: are doing that.
27:22
Speaker 3: Gee, poor old Bernie, poor old Bernie, because apparently no
27:26
Speaker 3: political argument is complete until 1930s Germany enters the chat.
27:34
Speaker 3: Joining me now is author and director of the Illegal
27:37
Speaker 3: Highways documentary, Adam B.
27:39
Speaker 2: Coleman. Adam, good to catch up.
27:40
Speaker 3: Thanks very much for joining me. Let's start with Donald
27:43
Speaker 3: Trump's speech to the United Nations. Look, I've got to
27:46
Speaker 3: say there were many triumphant moments, but this one in
27:49
Speaker 3: particular stood out to me when he called out UNESCO.
27:52
Speaker 2: Look at this.
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Speaker 5: It is deeply ironic that the United Nations has an
27:55
Speaker 5: entire institution, the UNESCO group of people and countries devoted
28:02
Speaker 5: to protecting the cultural heritage, yet with their ceaseless promotion
28:07
Speaker 5: of mass migration, these globalists are actively destroying the greatest
28:11
Speaker 5: cultures and most extraordinary heritage in all of history. There
28:16
Speaker 5: is no human right to illegal immigration, but there is
28:20
Speaker 5: a right to remain a sovereign nation, and we want
28:23
Speaker 5: to remain a sovereign nation, and so should you.
28:27
Speaker 3: Adam, look, I don't think he's wrong there. Look what's
28:29
Speaker 3: going on in Europe right now. It's an absolute mass
28:32
Speaker 3: migration crisis and the UN have been a very big
28:35
Speaker 3: part of all this. What did you make of his speech?
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Speaker 16: Well, specific to the statement, I completely agree with him.
28:45
Speaker 16: I think UNESCO sees culture within buildings and structures. They
28:49
Speaker 16: don't see culture within the people, right? There are different
28:52
Speaker 16: groups of people who have different cultural beliefs, lineage, rituals,
28:57
Speaker 16: things of that nature. And that is the starting point
29:02
Speaker 16: of why they created these buildings, why they created these structures.
29:05
Speaker 16: You go to a place like the Vatican, why does
29:08
Speaker 16: it look this particular way? All the different ways that
29:10
Speaker 16: they're showing how to celebrate Christ in a different artistic
29:14
Speaker 16: way over many and many of years. All these things
29:18
Speaker 16: started with people. And if borders don't matter, then essentially
29:24
Speaker 16: different groups of people don't matter. then people start to
29:28
Speaker 16: dissolve into this blob of no real cultural identity. And
29:33
Speaker 16: I think that's what they ultimately want. At least the
29:35
Speaker 16: globalists want these particular things. So I don't blame any person.
29:40
Speaker 16: part of any nation, including myself within the United States,
29:43
Speaker 16: for wanting to protect its borders for various reasons, but
29:46
Speaker 16: especially to make sure that we have a strong culture,
29:50
Speaker 16: an assimilated culture where we all have around about the
29:55
Speaker 16: same beliefs as far as how we should manage our nations.
29:57
Speaker 2: Look, I couldn't agree more.
29:59
Speaker 3: In the end, when you go to a certain country
30:01
Speaker 3: as a legal migrant, you are therefore required to adopt
30:04
Speaker 3: that country's values and belief system. Now, it doesn't mean
30:07
Speaker 3: you completely forget about where you came from, but it's
30:10
Speaker 3: about assimilation. And I think that Donald Trump hit the mark.
30:13
Speaker 3: He was absolutely perfect on it.
30:15
Speaker 2: And then I want to show you this.
30:16
Speaker 3: There was also this attack on the International Criminal Court.
30:20
Speaker 3: He also accused them of ignoring the persecution of Christians.
30:23
Speaker 6: We will never allow U.S.
30:25
Speaker 5: Service members or anyone else to be investigated or given
30:28
Speaker 5: show trials by an anti-American tribunal with no jurisdiction over us.
30:33
Speaker 5: You're an evil group of people. I call on all
30:36
Speaker 5: nations that are members of the ICC to officially resign
30:40
Speaker 5: from this rogue institution immediately.
30:44
Speaker 3: And you also said it's equally unacceptable that with all
30:46
Speaker 3: the genuine atrocities in the world, the UN's top human
30:49
Speaker 3: rights officials spend their time criticising the US, for example,
30:53
Speaker 3: protecting children from transgender mutilation and enforcing immigration laws, Adam.
31:00
Speaker 2: But just on the International Criminal Court, I mean, look,
31:02
Speaker 2: they are a joke.
31:04
Speaker 3: They are putting out warrants, for example, for Benjamin Netanyahu.
31:08
Speaker 3: And at the same time, there are Christians being persecuted
31:11
Speaker 3: around the world.
31:11
Speaker 2: And where's the ICC?
31:16
Speaker 16: Well, they're nowhere to be found because, you know, anytime
31:19
Speaker 16: you talk about Christians being persecuted, no one ever wants
31:22
Speaker 16: to say who's doing the persecuting and why they're doing
31:26
Speaker 16: the persecuting. And the reality is that When it comes
31:29
Speaker 16: to Islamists who feel the need to take the lives
31:33
Speaker 16: of Christians, there's a reason they're doing it. It's because
31:36
Speaker 16: they're following particular commandments. And the biggest enemy for them
31:41
Speaker 16: are the believers of Christ, people like myself. So what
31:45
Speaker 16: we're seeing in Nigeria is not some sort of accident, right?
31:50
Speaker 16: It is part of the actual routine. It's part of
31:53
Speaker 16: the plan. So when Trump is talking about this, everyone
31:57
Speaker 16: is afraid to talk about who's actually doing these things,
32:00
Speaker 16: which if you're afraid to talk about who's doing the persecuting,
32:04
Speaker 16: then the victims never get talked about.
32:07
Speaker 3: No, you're absolutely spot on, and these are things that
32:08
Speaker 3: we should be talking about. The left certainly don't want
32:12
Speaker 3: to know about it. They're happy to criticise any other religion,
32:15
Speaker 3: but for some reason they're very silent when it comes
32:18
Speaker 3: to what's going.
32:18
Speaker 2: On with Christians. It's very curious.
32:21
Speaker 3: Now, thousands of anti-Iranian regime protesters, they actually gathered outside
32:25
Speaker 3: the United Nations headquarters. demanding an end to Iran's execution
32:29
Speaker 3: of political prisoners and to establish a free democracy in
32:32
Speaker 3: the country. So this demonstration was led by the National
32:35
Speaker 3: Council of Resistance of Iran.
32:37
Speaker 2: They want world leaders at.
32:38
Speaker 3: The UN to act and force the Islamic Republic to
32:41
Speaker 3: end the latest surge in executions. There's at least 100
32:45
Speaker 3: political prisoners currently on death row. Adam, does this only
32:48
Speaker 3: just bolster what Donald Trump is doing in Iran?
32:53
Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely.
32:55
Speaker 16: And I think even just the idea that there are
32:58
Speaker 16: Iranians in America who are protesting the Iranian regime with
33:03
Speaker 16: the safety of the United States behind them, knowing that
33:06
Speaker 16: they can go home at night and not be taken
33:08
Speaker 16: in the middle of the night by the government because
33:11
Speaker 16: they stood in opposition of any particular government or because
33:15
Speaker 16: they use particular words or have these beliefs. They live
33:18
Speaker 16: in a free nation that allows for this to happen.
33:21
Speaker 16: And what they want is the same thing. within their
33:24
Speaker 16: homeland of Iran. And so when people try to make
33:28
Speaker 16: the United States this big bad wolf around the world,
33:34
Speaker 16: it is very clear when you point your sights at
33:37
Speaker 16: Iran that Iran is nowhere near the saint that the
33:43
Speaker 16: leftists are trying to make Iran appear to be.
33:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're absolutely spot on. And look, let's
33:49
Speaker 2: see what happens.
33:50
Speaker 3: Donald Trump has said that whatever happens with Iran, it
33:53
Speaker 3: won't happen now until after the midterms. I guess we'll
33:56
Speaker 3: just have to stay tuned. Now, I mentioned Benjamin Netanyahu.
34:00
Speaker 3: He has recorded a video message lashing the New York
34:03
Speaker 3: City mayor, Zoran Mamdani, again for branding him a war criminal.
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Speaker 17: Shame on you, Mr Mamdani. Shame on you for supporting
34:12
Speaker 17: the Hamas terrorist monsters who butchered our people. Shame on
34:15
Speaker 17: you for inciting riots... against New York Jews. I'm coming
34:19
Speaker 17: to the UN. I'm going to tell the truth about
34:22
Speaker 17: our heroic soldiers. And I'm going to tell the truth
34:25
Speaker 17: about you.
34:27
Speaker 2: Oh, good on him.
34:28
Speaker 3: And, of course, he's over in America to attend the
34:30
Speaker 3: UN General Assembly. Now, we know, Adam, that earlier this year,
34:33
Speaker 3: Mamdani said that he was investigating whether he had the
34:36
Speaker 3: legal authority to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu. I mean, he's got
34:39
Speaker 3: so many issues in his own backyard, but he's got
34:41
Speaker 3: this obsession with foreign matters.
34:45
Speaker 2: But what do you make of that video message?
34:50
Speaker 16: Well, I think that video message is just him responding
34:53
Speaker 16: to absurdities. This idea that a New York City mayor
34:57
Speaker 16: is trying to find ways as to why they can
34:59
Speaker 16: have a foreign leader arrested within the nation. Of course,
35:03
Speaker 16: there's no way for him to arrest him. He broke
35:06
Speaker 16: no laws in New York City. The New York mayor
35:09
Speaker 16: is not the king of the world, so he can't
35:10
Speaker 16: just make up stuff and hold people in imprisonment. So,
35:15
Speaker 16: you know, this entire thing is absolutely absurd. And I'm
35:19
Speaker 16: of the belief that much of this leftist movement is anti-Jewish. Um,
35:25
Speaker 16: much of this is using, using Palestine, using Hamas as
35:30
Speaker 16: a way to goad Israel and go to any tour,
35:34
Speaker 16: anything towards Israel, including Netanyahu. Um, so they want to
35:39
Speaker 16: pay him as this big bad war criminal. I don't think,
35:43
Speaker 16: I don't think he's a patron saint. I don't think
35:45
Speaker 16: any worldly, just some patron saint, but God forbid you
35:48
Speaker 16: actually name him some sort of, uh, some sort of
35:52
Speaker 16: enemy of the state. Um, when you have literal terrorists
35:57
Speaker 16: who are on the other side of Israel. So I'm 100%
36:01
Speaker 16: behind Israel trying to defend themselves. Do they do everything perfectly?
36:05
Speaker 16: No nation does. But the idea that he's just some
36:08
Speaker 16: war criminal, I think is absolutely absurd.
36:11
Speaker 3: I think that's very, very well put. I don't think
36:13
Speaker 3: any nation is perfect.
36:14
Speaker 2: I agree.
36:15
Speaker 3: And the fact that Zoram Mamdani, that seems to be
36:17
Speaker 3: his priority, I think speaks volumes about him.
36:20
Speaker 2: But you get for what you pay for.
36:22
Speaker 3: This is what the people of New York elected, so
36:25
Speaker 3: they're stuck now.
36:26
Speaker 2: Now, I've got to show you this, Adam.
36:28
Speaker 3: So a Democratic candidate for US Senate from Arkansas has
36:31
Speaker 3: claimed that illegal alien workers are more valuable than their
36:36
Speaker 3: American counterparts. Here was Hayley Schaffner on a podcast.
36:40
Speaker 2: It's absolutely ridiculous that these folks are being round up
36:43
Speaker 2: because they're hardworking people. They're some of the best people
36:45
Speaker 2: we know. And honestly, we trade five Americans for just
36:48
Speaker 2: one of them because of how hard they work. Adam,
36:52
Speaker 2: what a bizarre statement to make.
36:54
Speaker 16: It's absolutely bizarre. You know, I've admitted this before that
37:00
Speaker 16: I'm a former Democrat. And I couldn't imagine years ago
37:03
Speaker 16: a Democrat politician running for office would actually say that
37:08
Speaker 16: out loud. And so here we are. them saying, come
37:12
Speaker 16: and vote for me, you're not that important, and we'll
37:15
Speaker 16: replace you. When they used to say it was a
37:17
Speaker 16: conspiracy theory of the great replacement theory, now they're going
37:21
Speaker 16: on and saying, yeah, we would have four of them
37:23
Speaker 16: over you.
37:23
Speaker 1: I mean, this is how.
37:26
Speaker 16: Badly the Democratic Party has gone down. All of this
37:31
Speaker 16: is just to be in the opposition of Donald Trump.
37:34
Speaker 16: That is my strong belief. This is Donald Trump wanting
37:38
Speaker 16: to have the strong point of having stronger borders, And
37:41
Speaker 16: they were playing the opposite game, like they've been playing
37:44
Speaker 16: the opposite game ever since he came down that escalator.
37:47
Speaker 16: So this idea that, oh, they just work harder. Well,
37:51
Speaker 16: you might work harder if you're being underpaid. You might
37:54
Speaker 16: work harder if you're living in the shadows of a society.
37:58
Speaker 16: You might work harder too. And there's a reason why
38:01
Speaker 16: Americans don't want to do certain jobs. But also, I
38:04
Speaker 16: also don't believe that Americans won't do those jobs. They
38:07
Speaker 16: just won't do those jobs in terrible conditions and in
38:10
Speaker 16: unfair wages.
38:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's absolutely spot on.
38:14
Speaker 6: You're right.
38:15
Speaker 2: I don't know where the Democrats get off, to be honest.
38:18
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not sure if Hassan Paik is having us
38:20
Speaker 3: on here or not, but the far-left streamer claims that
38:23
Speaker 3: he has dialed down his commentary since facing backlash for
38:27
Speaker 3: taking part in Democratic candidates' campaigns. He said many of
38:31
Speaker 3: his comments are taken out of context or taken from
38:33
Speaker 3: a longer statement, but he has begun to think about
38:37
Speaker 3: what he says and tone down his rhetoric. Adam, I
38:40
Speaker 3: don't know about you, but I'll believe it when I
38:41
Speaker 3: see it.
38:44
Speaker 16: I mean, you know what? We are absolutely wrong. We
38:47
Speaker 16: were taking him saying that America deserved 9-11 completely out
38:51
Speaker 16: of context. I'm sure there's some deeper meaning that was well-intentioned.
38:57
Speaker 16: That doesn't sound absolutely horrendous and barbaric and anti-American. I'm
39:01
Speaker 16: sure there's some sort of way that we were just
39:03
Speaker 16: completely spinning that. You know, Hassan Piker is who Hassan
39:07
Speaker 16: Piker has been portraying himself forever. This is a guy
39:12
Speaker 16: who went to China and celebrated the Communist Party. This
39:14
Speaker 16: is a guy, every moment he gets, he says, F
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Speaker 16: you to America. While living in a lifestyle of luxury
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Speaker 16: and being one of the most wealthiest, you know, a
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Speaker 16: wealthy American citizen, he gets to complain about America, how
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Speaker 16: America sucks in his mansion. So, you know, this is
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Speaker 16: a limousine communist that, you know, once again, complained about everything,
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Speaker 16: but he's not changing anything. This is all rhetoric.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, and you're right.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we must have misunderstood all the rhetoric of
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Speaker 3: the past.
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Speaker 2: We're the problem, clearly, Adam. America is the problem.
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Speaker 3: Everyday hardworking Americans are the problem, not Hassan Paika, according
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Speaker 3: to Hassan Paika.
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Speaker 2: Adam B.
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Speaker 3: Coleman, a pleasure to catch up with you as always.
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining the show.
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Speaker 16: Thank you. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Still to come, disaster for Earl Spencer.
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Speaker 3: Princess Diana's brother forced to issue a grovelling apology to
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Speaker 3: Piers Morgan. Dee Dee Dunleavy has all your entertainment news next.
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Speaker 2: MUSIC Welcome back. Disaster for Earl Spencer.
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Speaker 3: He has issued a grovelling apology to Piers Morgan after
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Speaker 3: the British broadcaster threatened him with legal action over fabricated
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Speaker 3: inaccuracies in his.
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Speaker 2: New book, Swan Song, Diana, My Sister.
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Speaker 3: Now, Spencer claimed that Piers was the editor of the
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Speaker 3: Daily Mirror when it used hidden camera footage to publish
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Speaker 3: photographs of Princess Diana working out in a gym in 1993.
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Speaker 2: But the broadcaster.
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Speaker 3: Actually joined the Daily Mirror in October 1995, two years later. Now,
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Speaker 3: Piers Morgan is still demanding the book be pulled from
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Speaker 3: the shelves despite the apology.
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Speaker 2: How far are you willing to take this if indeed
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Speaker 2: they do say no? As far as it takes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's admitted it's wrong. It's a defamatory lie.
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Speaker 1: Any lawyer can confirm that. It's still in the book.
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Speaker 1: You're cool. You can resolve this right away.
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Speaker 2: Just withdraw the book from sale.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is broadcaster DeeDee Dunleavy. DeeDee, nice to
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Speaker 3: see you as always. I've got to say I'm loving
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Speaker 3: watching peers wipe the floor right now with Earl Spencer.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Earl Spencer has so much egg
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Speaker 1: on his face he has to eat some humble pie now.
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Speaker 1: He actually called himself an historian and he said that
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Speaker 1: he wanted to set history straight on the whole Diana story. Well,
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Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, then get your facts right.
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Speaker 1: Clearly no one at Penguin fact-checked this and they're the
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Speaker 1: same publishers of Spare, so... I'm not sure how they
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Speaker 1: play it in there, but they allowed him to publish this. Look,
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Speaker 1: I don't think realistically Piers wants them to pulp the books.
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Speaker 1: I think he's just making Earl Spencer sweat. And I
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Speaker 1: don't like the idea of books being destroyed. It's just
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Speaker 1: got a feel of censorship about it. But I think
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Speaker 1: he's absolutely justified in being as angry as he is
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Speaker 1: and being dragged into this. And Earl Spencer has just,
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Speaker 1: his credibility is destroyed. He made the claim about King
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Speaker 1: Charles that King Charles has, you know, given the recollections
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Speaker 1: may vary answer to. And now this, no one's going
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Speaker 1: to believe a single word of this book.
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Speaker 2: No, I totally agree.
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Speaker 3: And I'm with you in that I don't think that
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Speaker 3: Piers is thinking that it is going to happen, that
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Speaker 3: he's going to pull the book, but I think Piers
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Speaker 3: is absolutely milking this for all he's worth because Earl
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Speaker 3: Spencer is, quite frankly, a loser and he does remind
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Speaker 3: me a lot of Prince Harry, like nephew, like uncle.
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Speaker 2: It's extraordinary.
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Speaker 3: And, look, just sticking with the royals, I've got to
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Speaker 3: show you this very awkward interaction between Prince Harry and
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Speaker 3: some school students in Birmingham. oh gosh dd that's awkward
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Speaker 3: uh they couldn't care less no.
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Speaker 1: It's really interesting isn't it i mean those students looked
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Speaker 1: maybe 14 or 15 to me so there would have
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Speaker 1: been eight i'm not great at maths eight or nine
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Speaker 1: when prince harry left so it's They don't know who
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Speaker 1: he is. And so they don't see him as a royal.
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Speaker 1: They don't see him as an American celebrity of some sort.
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Speaker 1: And these are kids who will follow anyone with a
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Speaker 1: profile on social media. So they don't see him as anything.
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Speaker 1: He's nothing to them. And it's his own fault because
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Speaker 1: he stepped away from royal duties. If he still had
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Speaker 1: the cachet that comes with a royal visit, then he
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Speaker 1: could enjoy that. But these kids, they spoke for all
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Speaker 1: of us in just ignoring him and rolling their eyes.
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Speaker 1: I loved it. And I loved the fact that they
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Speaker 1: didn't like the media intrusion either because he brought his
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Speaker 1: cameras with him. And again, these are kids who will
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Speaker 1: film themselves and be filmed doing anything, any time. They
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Speaker 1: just didn't want any part of it. I can't blame them.
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Speaker 2: No, I can't blame them either.
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Speaker 3: He would have hated that he was being reduced to
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Speaker 3: just being a private citizen because, let's be honest, he
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Speaker 3: hates being the private citizen, or so he tells us.
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Speaker 2: So he's a nobody, an absolute nobody.
44:06
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, though, Meghan Markle, she was spotted with Ellen DeGeneres
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Speaker 3: at a pub near Burford in Oxfordshire.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, good pals in good company.
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Speaker 3: Ellen's been regarded as the queen of mean and we know,
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Speaker 3: of course, Megan's had her fair share of scandals when
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Speaker 3: it comes to her own personality.
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Speaker 2: So two peas in a pod, I'd say, Dee Dee.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I was going to say two birds of a feather, Danika,
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Speaker 1: but I think we're both singing from the same hymn book. Yeah, look,
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Speaker 1: they've both faced allegations of bullying, Megan with her staff
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Speaker 1: back in Montecito and Megan with her staff. It's vile,
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Speaker 1: isn't it? Can you imagine being the kind of person
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Speaker 1: who has staff, you know, They're just so out of touch.
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Speaker 1: And if Meghan was thinking this was some sort of
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Speaker 1: going to give her cultural relevance to be seen with
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Speaker 1: Ellen DeGeneres, it's done absolutely the opposite. And she was
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Speaker 1: so out of touch. Who needs a bodyguard at a
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Speaker 1: pub in the Cotswolds in the English countryside?
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Speaker 2: It's absurd.
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Speaker 1: And the poor bodyguard was carrying her spotty handbag.
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Speaker 15: Oh.
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Speaker 1: It's so elitist and privileged. And we're supposed to believe
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Speaker 1: that she's the queen of, you know, generosity and of
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Speaker 1: caring and compassion. It's the opposite. This is the best
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Speaker 1: that either of them can do since they've been there.
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Speaker 1: I'm so confused, Danika. Why did they go back?
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Speaker 2: Oh, look, I think we all are confused.
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Speaker 3: I think the Cotswolds are also scratching their head thinking,
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Speaker 3: why on earth are these two here? You know, she's
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Speaker 3: just making a mockery of everything. And you're right, she's
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Speaker 3: actually quite.
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Speaker 2: Petty, I would say, a very, very petty woman. Now
45:38
Speaker 2: let's talk about Ed Sheeran.
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Speaker 3: So he is still facing backlash from that decision to
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Speaker 3: drop Macklemore from his concert. TMZ is reporting that protesters
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Speaker 3: are preparing to gather outside one of his concerts at
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Speaker 3: Gillette Stadium in Foxborough this weekend. The Massachusetts Peace Group
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Speaker 3: is sponsoring the demonstration. You know, Dede, all of his
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Speaker 3: efforts the other night to sort of backpedal and say
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Speaker 3: that he supports Palestine and he desperately tried to backpedal
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Speaker 3: on what's going on, it hasn't worked because in the end,
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Speaker 3: these activists, they're never going to give up.
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Speaker 1: Correct. They cannot be pleased and they smell blood. He
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Speaker 1: cried on stage and took this sort of what he
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Speaker 1: thought was a neutral position, but they will not accept
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Speaker 1: that because they want you to think like they do.
46:26
Speaker 1: They want you to talk exactly like they do. There's
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Speaker 1: a singer called Charlotte Church who absolutely got stuck into
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Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran because even though he gave that tearful apology,
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Speaker 1: which did seem sincere even though he was reading it,
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Speaker 1: I'm hoping that he had a hand in writing it.
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Speaker 1: But because she wouldn't use the exact words that she
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Speaker 1: wanted him to use, she's not happy and the activist
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Speaker 1: cast won't be happy. I actually am now starting to
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Speaker 1: wonder whether he can recover from this. Apparently the audiences
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Speaker 1: within the concert stadiums that he's appearing at since the
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Speaker 1: incident have been receiving him warmly, but largely I think
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Speaker 1: he's just not looking good at the moment.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm with you all the way.
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Speaker 3: It seems like the entire concert, the whole tour has
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Speaker 3: been derailed by this. It's put a whole stain on
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Speaker 3: it for sure. Let's look at some interesting news closer
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Speaker 3: to home. NRL negotiations with Australian singer Tones and I
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Speaker 3: have broken down ahead of the grand final where Tones
47:22
Speaker 3: and I was set to be the headline pre-game act. Now,
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Speaker 3: talks reportedly broke down over artistic differences. it's understood that
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Speaker 3: there were no guarantees that she would play her number
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Speaker 3: one hit song, Dance Monkey. Dee Dee, I was listening
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Speaker 3: to the NRL boss, Peter Volandes. He was fobbing it off.
47:37
Speaker 3: He said, look, in the end, people are coming to
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Speaker 3: the NRL to watch a game, not for the pre-game entertainment.
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Speaker 1: Is he right, though?
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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think it's embarrassing if they don't
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Speaker 2: lock in an act?
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Speaker 1: No, I don't think it is, and I think he's
47:49
Speaker 1: absolutely right, and I think he is a PR genius
47:52
Speaker 1: because it seems to me that the AFL and the
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Speaker 1: NRL have been in this ever-increasing competition to see who
47:59
Speaker 1: can have the best entertainment. And the AFL has got
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Speaker 1: Kylie Minogue lined up to appear at the grand final
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Well, perhaps the NRL realised they couldn't trump
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Speaker 1: that without paying mega millions. And so they've said that
48:10
Speaker 1: instead of spending money on one act that will perform
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Speaker 1: for a few hours, they're going to put that money
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Speaker 1: into a grassroots sport where as many as 20,000 kids
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Speaker 1: will be supported. So in the long run, probably that
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Speaker 1: will be a better move and do more good in
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Speaker 1: the community. So it's not going to affect attendance. I
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Speaker 1: think people are still going to go along to the
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Speaker 1: game because, as you say, they're there for the game.
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Speaker 1: They're not there for the entertainment. I think he's made
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Speaker 1: a very good move. I think it was about saving face,
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Speaker 1: but he's done it very well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
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Speaker 3: He knows what he's doing. He knows how to work
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Speaker 3: it very well. Almost out of time, but I want
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Speaker 3: to show you this.
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Speaker 2: Of course, the.
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Speaker 3: AFL's biggest night of nights where the stars swap their
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Speaker 3: guernseys for suits, the brown, low red carpet. It seems
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Speaker 3: to be the talk of the town. A couple of
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Speaker 3: interesting dresses from the women I want to show you.
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Speaker 3: Marcus Bontempelli's wife, Nila, in what looks like a Japanese gown.
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Speaker 3: Sabina Wheatley wearing lots of florals. I quite like that
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Speaker 3: one by Sabina Wheatley personally. But what do you think
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Speaker 3: of what we saw on the red carpet?
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Speaker 1: Well, with the greatest of respect to Nika and I
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Speaker 1: have no problem with anyone else talking about what they
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Speaker 1: want to talk about. Having had a couple of friends
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Speaker 1: who have been the partners of AFL players, I know,
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Speaker 1: and if you're not a six-foot model, I know how
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Speaker 1: difficult the night is for them I think I'm happy
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Speaker 1: to judge Hollywood celebrities on what they wear on the
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Speaker 1: red carpet because they are constantly asking for our attention
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Speaker 1: but a lot of these wives and partners are there
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Speaker 1: just by virtue of the fact that they are the
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Speaker 1: wife or partner of the player so I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to give an opinion I just don't want to judge
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Speaker 1: them I.
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Speaker 2: Think that's a fair point. Look, I actually love watching
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Speaker 2: the red carpet arrivals.
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Speaker 1: Oh, same.
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Speaker 2: I love seeing what they wear. I love the glam.
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Speaker 2: I'm all for it. I agree with you.
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Speaker 3: TD Dunleavy, nice to see you as always. Great to
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Speaker 3: catch up. Thanks very much for joining us on the show.
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Speaker 3: And that is it for me.
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Speaker 2: Next up is the late edition. Good night.