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The Next Round: Kalen DeBoer’s Alabama Hot Seat Is a Myth + Lane Kiffin Prepares LSU for Clemson | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: Hour number two now of the next round on sport
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Speaker 1: and state today. And we're about to talk some NFL
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Speaker 1: football a little bit later on, but we just gave
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Speaker 1: you the things you see in front of us are some,
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Speaker 1: some players that'll break out this weekend. Brown went very, very,
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Speaker 1: I mean, Who's ever heard of Cam Coleman, Lance? What
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Speaker 1: a breakout guy.
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Speaker 2: I mean, along with Jeremiah Smith and Malachi Toney, he
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Speaker 2: is your first team All-American.
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Speaker 3: You don't think some people will watch this Texas State game, right?
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Speaker 3: And they'll see this Cam Coleman performance, 212 receiving yards,
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Speaker 3: three touchdowns. And they'll say, man, where did the Auburn,
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Speaker 3: what did he do at Auburn? And they'll go look
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Speaker 3: at his Auburn stats and they'll be like, where did
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Speaker 3: this guy, I mean, what happened? Breakout star, Jim. Talk
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Speaker 3: of the nation. Talk of the nation.
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Speaker 1: It's like you buzzed in really quick on Jeopardy before
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Speaker 1: I even finished the question.
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Speaker 3: Breakout star.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the guys that you're not expecting to be stars,
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Speaker 1: you're expecting Cam Coleman. We gave you Makai Hughes, who
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Speaker 1: barely got a touch last year at Oregon.
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Speaker 3: And Dick Young.
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Speaker 1: And Richard Young, who Alabama fans probably didn't know was
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Speaker 1: at Colorado.
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Speaker 3: Trying to educate people. You gave us Cam Coleman. I
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Speaker 3: bet you Dick Young doesn't have 40 rush yards in
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Speaker 3: that game against Georgia Tech. You don't think so? Uh-uh.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Hard Rock Bet wouldn't have a player
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Speaker 3: problem with somebody as low as Richard Young, would they?
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Speaker 2: They might.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Danny Scadero, your transfer wide receiver from San
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Speaker 2: Jose State, they'll definitely have a prop on him. Julian Lewis,
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Speaker 2: they'll have a prop on him. Maybe Richard Young.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the Thursday night card, guys,
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Speaker 1: I mean, Colorado-Georgia Tech is the marquee game.
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Speaker 3: It is, yes. I'll be watching.
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Speaker 2: And look, they ran for 290 yards last year on
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Speaker 2: this Colorado defense. It's going to be about stopping Justice Haynes,
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Speaker 2: Alberto Mendoza. That's right. They only lost by seven last
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Speaker 2: year when they gave up that kind of yardage on
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Speaker 2: the ground. I think this could be a dangerous game
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Speaker 2: for Brent Key.
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Speaker 3: It could be. Listen, you've got Juju, a quarterback. Right?
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Speaker 3: Richard Young. Richard Young at running back.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Brad, I feel like your tone of voice
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Speaker 1: makes it sound like you doubt my research on Richard Young.
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Speaker 3: No, I know Richard Young plays. I've learned today Richard
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Speaker 3: Young plays for Colorado. I'm now one hour old of
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Speaker 3: my knowledge of Richard Young at Colorado. I learned roughly
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Speaker 3: an hour ago he plays for Colorado.
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Speaker 2: Who will dress flashier in the pregame?
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Speaker 3: Will it be... The Redneck, what was it? The Ghetto Gangster?
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Speaker 2: No, the Redneck Gangster.
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Speaker 1: I just can't believe we're going to watch a game
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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. If you're an Alabama fan, you're going to
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Speaker 1: watch a game tomorrow night coming off a year when
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Speaker 1: you couldn't run the football. And in the marquee game
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Speaker 1: on Thursday night, you're going to have Justice Haynes on
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Speaker 3: Richard Young on another team. And say both of those
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Speaker 3: both of them may go for 100 yards.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe Bama didn't try to get Justice
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Speaker 2: Haynes back.
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Speaker 3: No, why not? Why not?
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Speaker 1: ahead and throw out our picks for the NFC South.
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Speaker 1: NFC South champion. Nope, let's go bottom up. Last place
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Speaker 1: team in the NFC. NFC South this year.
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Speaker 3: Lance, you first. Who will be dead last?
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Speaker 2: I am going to go with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I hate you. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that they're going to fall off much.
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Speaker 2: I just think it's going to be bottlenecked again. in
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Speaker 2: the NFC South.
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Speaker 3: You're talking about probably two games separates the bottom from
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Speaker 3: the top. We're probably talking about nine wins to seven wins.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if this was a Drake song, there's not
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Speaker 3: a long way from the bottom to the top.
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Speaker 2: Just to remind people, you had three 8-9s last year
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Speaker 2: by the tiebreaker. Carolina won the division, and then the
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Speaker 2: Saints were 6-11. So I just think it's going to
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Speaker 2: shift around a little bit. I think Baker's losing just
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Speaker 2: a little bit of juice, and I think Tampa's going
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Speaker 2: to be around seven wins.
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Speaker 3: Saints are going to be bottom for me again. I
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Speaker 3: don't love their quarterback situation. I am sorry to do
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Speaker 3: this to Scott.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I agree.
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Speaker 3: Scott, they've got all the weapons they need except for
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Speaker 3: a really important weapon, and that's quarterback. You cannot suck
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Speaker 3: at quarterback. Yep, and I unfortunately think you're going to
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Speaker 3: suck at quarterback.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 3: That's the unfortunate. I hate it for the Falcons. I do.
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Speaker 3: I hate it for the Falcons.
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Speaker 2: Well, you had a bad injury and the Pierce suspension.
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Speaker 3: On defense, too. That's right. Yeah, I mean, that's just.
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Speaker 3: And Stefanski, poor guy, just cannot find a quarterback to
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Speaker 3: play for him as a head coach. He can't do it.
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Speaker 3: So who's your winner? I'm going to go Falcons. Who's
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Speaker 3: your division winner? I am going to take the Panthers again.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to take the Panthers.
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Speaker 2: I think Dave Canales, the rapport he is building with
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Speaker 2: Bryce Young. I think Bryce is going to be okay.
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Speaker 2: I think Tyler Shuck's going to be okay. If Shuck
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Speaker 2: can stay healthy from Oregon to Texas Tech to Louisville,
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Speaker 2: I think he's going to have a better NFL career
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Speaker 2: than he had a college career. Just watching him in
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Speaker 2: a one-game situation against the Rams last year, he's got
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Speaker 2: a lot of poise, a lot of confidence. But I
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Speaker 2: do like Carolina to win this division again.
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Speaker 3: I forgive you all. Tampa Bay will win this division.
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Speaker 3: They'll win this division by two games. By two games.
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Speaker 3: Separation this year. They'll actually have a winning record to
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Speaker 3: win the division. I'm saying something to this division.
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Speaker 1: This is the first time since the Super Bowl year
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Speaker 1: that I believe Tampa Bay is healthy tackle to tackle
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Speaker 1: at the offensive line. And they've got a really good
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Speaker 1: offensive line.
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Speaker 2: They're back.
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Speaker 1: I know no Mike Evans, but the receiving core with
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Speaker 1: Abuka out there, still very talented. Godwin out there. And
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Speaker 1: Bucky Irving running the football. I like me some Bucky Irving.
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Speaker 1: This Tampa Bay team, they got.
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Speaker 3: They got the big guy in the middle tied down
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Speaker 3: for a year on the defense, Vita Bay. The secondary
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Speaker 3: is getting better.
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Speaker 2: And who's your head coach?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the guy is a great defensive coordinator.
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Speaker 3: That's right. It's all about defense, Lance. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Our offensive coordinators have gotten slightly worse because they're both
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Speaker 1: coaching in Carolina and Jacksonville.
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Speaker 3: We've just put OCs into the NFL. Well, I tell
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Speaker 3: you what, it is– that division is– I mean, like
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Speaker 3: Stefanski is probably the biggest name in that division, even
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Speaker 3: bigger than Todd Bowles. Yeah. But, I mean, you could
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Speaker 3: do a police lineup in that division of the head coaches.
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Speaker 2: I think Kellen Moore is big just because of football fans.
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Speaker 3: Because he was with the Cowboys?
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Speaker 2: Well, because of how good he was at Boise State, too.
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Speaker 2: I just think overall football fans know who Kellen Moore is.
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Speaker 2: Because most of these coaches, their playing careers are kind
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Speaker 2: of anonymous.
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Speaker 3: That is the NFC South.
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Speaker 1: You can go place those bets at Hard Rock Bets
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Speaker 1: on the future champions there. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are,
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Speaker 1: as two-thirds of our panel says, the Carolina Panthers here.
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Speaker 1: By the way, did you know the team that's won
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Speaker 1: more playoff games but has never won a Super Bowl?
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Speaker 1: This is a little trivia for you.
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Speaker 3: The team that has won the most playoff games without
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Speaker 3: winning a Super Bowl? That's got to be Buffalo. Buffalo's
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Speaker 3: actually second, tied with the Titans, who inherited the Oilers
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Speaker 3: as well. That's 22 for the Bills-Titans.
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Speaker 2: I'll go Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings by 10, LT. 32 playoff wins over
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Speaker 1: the year. but never a Super Bowl. They're like Buffalo, right?
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Speaker 1: Four-time Super Bowl losers?
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Speaker 2: I thought it was three.
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Speaker 3: I think it's three. No, it's four. Is it four?
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Speaker 4: They were never consecutive. They were the first franchise to
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Speaker 4: lose four Super Bowls.
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Speaker 2: I think that they are going to be sneaky good
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Speaker 2: this year. I wanted to snatch them late in our draft.
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Speaker 2: You know, their win total is eight and a half.
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Speaker 2: But I think Kyler Murray is going to be good
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Speaker 2: in Kevin O'Connell's system. You know, Brian Flores has got
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Speaker 2: that defense dialed in. Again, you said we're going to
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Speaker 2: start with the most competitive division. I agree as far
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Speaker 2: as like the the.
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Speaker 3: Space between bottom and top. That's right, yeah.
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Speaker 2: But the best is for his teams that could actually
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Speaker 2: make a deep run, maybe win a Super Bowl as
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Speaker 2: the NFC North. I do think Minnesota's going to be improved.
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Speaker 3: This happens sometimes to franchises, but I think the best
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Speaker 3: Vikings team of all time ever got to the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Scott's Falcons.
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Speaker 2: 98.
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Speaker 3: That Vikings team was incredible. That missed kick. Yeah, the
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Speaker 3: missed kick. I mean, didn't miss a kick all year
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Speaker 3: until the one that mattered the most. Hate it for them.
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Speaker 3: I know you do.
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Speaker 2: Well, then when, you know, Stephon Diggs walks it off
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Speaker 2: against the Saints, they're hosting the NFC Championship game against
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Speaker 2: Nick Foles, and you're like, they've got all the momentum.
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Speaker 2: I know Case Keenum. Think about the starting quarterbacks in
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Speaker 2: that game, Case Keenum and Nick Foles. But you just
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Speaker 2: felt like that was going to be Minnesota's year.
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Speaker 1: By the way, the Chargers, after you go Vikings, Bills, Titans,
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Speaker 1: Chargers with 17– Bengals and Browns with 16. Falcons and
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Speaker 1: Lions with 14.
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Speaker 2: When's the last time the Chargers won a playoff game, though?
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Speaker 3: It's been a minute, right? Yeah, it had to be
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Speaker 3: Phillip Rivers. It was, yeah.
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Speaker 1: So just interesting, those teams have made it to the
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Speaker 1: playoffs and have yet to come up.
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Speaker 3: With a Super Bowl. So is that the entire list?
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Speaker 3: That's everybody's double digits. Everybody's double digits. Yeah, because you've
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Speaker 3: got like Jacksonville and Carolina. that have never won a
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl.
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Speaker 4: Is that all-time, Jim?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Brooks.
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Speaker 1: I was trying to find the story. I scribbled it
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Speaker 1: down this morning when I was doing show notes.
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Speaker 2: Fair enough.
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Speaker 3: I was just curious.
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Speaker 4: That's surprising the Lions have that many playoff wins, to
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Speaker 4: be honest, unless it's all time.
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Speaker 3: I would have to say it's got to be super
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Speaker 3: bowl era so it's super bowl year it's not without
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Speaker 3: a super bowl win so yeah i mean super bowl
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Speaker 3: win so it had to start in 67 is that
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Speaker 3: when the super bowl started 67 yeah yeah that does
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Speaker 3: seem like a lot of detroit wins for a team
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Speaker 3: that rarely goes yeah yeah Anyway, that's a little NFL
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Speaker 3: talk here on the show today. Back to college football
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Speaker 3: as we get ready for this opening weekend. And one
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Speaker 3: of the things I wanted to bring up on the
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Speaker 3: show today was the honoring of past players. It is
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Speaker 3: amazing to me that at West Virginia, we're just now
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Speaker 3: getting around to retiring Pat White's jersey.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: But they're doing that this weekend. Pat White's getting his
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Speaker 1: jersey retired. For those that don't remember, Lance, remind us
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Speaker 1: just how good Pat White was at West Virginia.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he had a play away from playing for
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Speaker 2: a national championship.
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Speaker 3: Was that 2007?
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Speaker 2: One of the biggest upsets ever. Yeah, it was 2007.
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Speaker 3: 2007, yeah.
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Speaker 2: They had Steve Slayton in that backfield. I mean, that
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Speaker 2: was some really, really dominant Rich Rodriguez offenses and Pat
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Speaker 2: White in today's football, he was just a little bit
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Speaker 2: before his time.
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Speaker 3: He was.
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Speaker 2: I think he might even get as small as he
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Speaker 2: was just because of guys like Kyler Murray. Maybe he
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Speaker 2: even gets looks in the NFL.
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Speaker 3: To your point, by the way.
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Speaker 2: I think he played for your Dolphins for a minute, right?
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Speaker 2: He did.
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Speaker 3: He was on the team. A lot of guys play
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Speaker 3: quarterback for the Dolphins. But, I mean, to Jim's point,
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Speaker 3: we're approaching 20 years since that season, and it's not
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Speaker 3: like Pat White has been tied up in the NFL
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Speaker 3: and can't get back to Morgantown. That's right. He's been
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Speaker 3: out of the league a while. Like, why did it
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Speaker 3: take 20 years to do this?
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Speaker 4: He has a stat that I think will never be
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Speaker 4: touched again, especially in this NIL transfer portal era. He's
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Speaker 4: the only quarterback to start and win four bowl games.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you'll never see that again.
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Speaker 3: Wow. Wow. So he started and won four bowl games.
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Speaker 2: Because he started as a freshman.
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Speaker 3: 4-0 in bowl games. Correct.
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Speaker 4: He won his freshman year the Sugar Bowl against Georgia.
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Speaker 4: It had been relocated because of Katrina. It was in
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Speaker 4: the Georgia Dome. And he was a freshman then and
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Speaker 4: won his next three bowl games too.
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Speaker 3: Lance has Julian Sane approaching that record perhaps. Maybe he'll
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Speaker 3: be 5. He'll be the first to start. He'll go
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Speaker 3: 5 for 5.
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Speaker 2: He's never really in bowl games. I mean, like technically
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Speaker 2: it's playoffs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you got to twist the rules a
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Speaker 3: little bit.
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Speaker 2: Wait, wait, didn't they just lose to Miami?
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Speaker 3: He lost the bowl game. So he's 0-1.
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Speaker 4: He's 0-1.
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Speaker 2: But I think West Virginia, I think what happened back
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Speaker 2: to the original question was Bill Stewart takes the program over.
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Speaker 2: Help me out, Neil Brown was there. Who else is–
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Speaker 2: you've just– The guy that went to Houston that got fired.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Holgerson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dana Holgerson. You've had a lot of fluctuation there,
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Speaker 2: and I think now Rich Rod gets back. He wants
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Speaker 2: to instill– west virginia tradition yeah he's big on this.
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Speaker 3: Right he probably got back he's like we never honored
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Speaker 3: pat white after i left and went to michigan and
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Speaker 3: left the program i.
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Speaker 1: Had dry and truthfully it probably didn't happen because they
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Speaker 1: got so pissed off at rich rod for leaving that's
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Speaker 1: right he was tied to rich that they didn't honor
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Speaker 1: those great teams that rich rod had so rich rod's
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Speaker 1: back now and he's like we're gonna we're gonna make
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Speaker 1: this right.
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Speaker 3: I would just say if you say brown named the
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Speaker 3: greatest football player in west virginia history i go pat
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Speaker 3: white yeah i mean that's that's I think what most
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Speaker 3: people would say.
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Speaker 1: By the way, 11 a.m. Central, 12 Eastern on TNT. So,
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Speaker 1: I mean, football broadcasts are all over the place now.
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Speaker 1: TNT for that game, Coastal and West Virginia, 11 a.m.
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Speaker 1: TNT Central time.
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Speaker 2: Are they just going by Coastal now? I see it
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Speaker 2: on our sheet.
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Speaker 3: Coastal Carolina doesn't fit into our sheet.
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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering because I saw Miley Cyrus is dropping
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Speaker 2: her last name. She's supposed to be Miley. So I
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Speaker 2: thought maybe Coastal's doing this.
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Speaker 3: I could put Sea Carolina. No, I like Coastal.
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Speaker 1: I just know Coastal because I figured we all know
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Speaker 1: who is good. Coastal in West Virginia, 11 a.m.
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Speaker 3: On TNT.
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Speaker 1: If you do look at our sheet, some games are
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Speaker 1: not on the front, but they are on the back.
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Speaker 1: And that's where you find Coastal in West Virginia on
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Speaker 1: our sheet there. Speaking of TV windows this weekend, I mean,
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Speaker 1: week zero worked out really well. Early window, afternoon window,
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Speaker 1: prime window, late night window. The early window, we're struggling
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Speaker 1: for good contests.
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Speaker 3: It's tough. It's tough. I mean, where we are, I'll
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Speaker 3: have Bama, East Carolina on the main.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, 12 Eastern, 11 Central on ABC with East Carolina, Alabama.
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Speaker 2: There's Alabama ties all over the place because you've got, obviously,
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Speaker 2: Sig at Indiana.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's another.
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Speaker 2: Jamarcus Shepard's taking over Oregon State.
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Speaker 3: That's right, Oregon State, former Bama assistant. That's another game,
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Speaker 3: you know, I want to watch that Indiana game early
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Speaker 3: on Fox, Jim, just to see Josh Hoover. Okay, okay. No,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it's going to be a
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Speaker 3: good game. I just want to see Josh Hoover in
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Speaker 3: action and see if it looks a little bit like
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Speaker 3: Mendoza from last year. Listen, I know you killed the
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Speaker 3: CW broadcast. It was not good. Yesterday? Not good.
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Speaker 1: I've got a feeling Miami of Ohio and Pitt 1130
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Speaker 1: on CW in that first window could be interesting.
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Speaker 3: Boy, Narduzzi better hope it's not. I mean, I don't
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Speaker 3: know point spread on that game at Hard Rock Bet,
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Speaker 3: but that's an upset. Because I think Pitt fans probably think,
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Speaker 3: why not us? I mean, if Miami's going to win
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Speaker 3: the league, why can't we be the team that plays
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Speaker 3: them in the championship game? And listen, if you just
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Speaker 3: like good competitive football, if you're not just looking for
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Speaker 3: brand names, ESPNU in that early window, Liberty versus James Madison,
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Speaker 3: Billy Napier now the coach of James Madison, That will
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Speaker 3: be a competitive football game.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I agree. And I think Jamie Caldwell's got an
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Speaker 2: improved Liberty team coming back this year. And I don't
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Speaker 2: know what to expect from JMU. I mean, you've had
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Speaker 2: your last two head coaches ripped away from you and
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Speaker 2: Kirk Cignetti and Bob Chesney. JMU coming off a perfect
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Speaker 2: 12-0 last year, goes to a college football playoff. They
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Speaker 2: get blown out, but they're six-and-a-half-point favorites against the Flames.
15:45
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a really good game. By the way,
15:47
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's 16-and-a-half.
15:49
Speaker 3: 16-and-a-half. Okay, all right, Jim, maybe it is a little closer.
15:51
Speaker 3: I would have thought that's a bigger number.
15:52
Speaker 1: Afternoon window, Baylor and Auburn, of course, is the marquee
15:55
Speaker 1: game on ABC. Some interest to me on Fox with
15:59
Speaker 1: Boston College and Cincinnati. Can Boston College be a little
16:04
Speaker 1: bit better, and how bad is Cincinnati going to be
16:06
Speaker 1: in the Big 12? Some people think Cincinnati– could be
16:10
Speaker 1: only above Iowa State in the Big 12 race. I
16:12
Speaker 1: think Satt's got to be on the hot seat there
16:14
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati.
16:14
Speaker 2: I think the loser of that game. Bill O'Brien, people
16:17
Speaker 2: are already talking about how bad Boston College has been.
16:20
Speaker 3: I don't know what they want up there. I mean,
16:22
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to make that a good program.
16:24
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're probably right. Satterfield or O'Brien probably leaves
16:28
Speaker 3: this game fighting for their job the rest of the year.
16:31
Speaker 1: Afternoon window on FS1, Marshall and Penn State. It'll be
16:34
Speaker 1: interesting just to see what Penn State looks like under
16:36
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell. Yeah, they're going to be obviously a heavy
16:39
Speaker 1: favorite in this game against Marshall, but.
16:42
Speaker 3: I want to see Rocco Becht in that uniform, and
16:45
Speaker 3: I want to see if it looks like Penn State
16:47
Speaker 3: or if it looks like Iowa State playing Penn State
16:49
Speaker 3: football or Penn State uniforms.
16:51
Speaker 2: I mean, when you've got 24 transfers coming in from Ames,
16:53
Speaker 2: I mean, it might look like that. But, you know,
16:55
Speaker 2: we saw Iowa State not last year, but. Two years ago,
16:59
Speaker 2: played for a Big 12 championship and really a half
17:01
Speaker 2: away from getting into a college football playoff with a
17:03
Speaker 2: lot of those guys.
17:05
Speaker 3: I know Drew Aller is fighting for him. I can't
17:07
Speaker 3: remember where it ended up with him in Pittsburgh. I
17:08
Speaker 3: don't know if he's the backup to Aaron Rodgers. They
17:10
Speaker 3: have four teams. I don't know if he's going to
17:13
Speaker 3: be the backup is what I'm saying.
17:14
Speaker 2: He is number four.
17:15
Speaker 3: He's number four.
17:16
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph, Will Howard, then Drew Aller.
17:20
Speaker 3: I mean, that's an upgraded quarterback to me, Rocco Beck
17:23
Speaker 3: replacing Drew Aller. I would agree the way Aller played.
17:25
Speaker 3: The way Aller played at Penn State. On the college level,
17:28
Speaker 3: not with the same NFL expectations. I'm not talking about NFL. Yeah,
17:31
Speaker 3: I'm just talking about on the collegiate level, I think
17:33
Speaker 3: Penn State has upgraded a quarterback going from Aller to Beck.
17:35
Speaker 2: But no Katron Allen and Nick Singleton. And those guys,
17:38
Speaker 2: much like Notre Dame running the ball so effectively last year,
17:42
Speaker 2: is Penn State going to be able to run the
17:43
Speaker 2: ball at that level?
17:45
Speaker 1: Afternoon window, you'll peek in to see Boise State-Oregon to
17:47
Speaker 1: see if the brand Boise can make that game interesting. ESPNU,
17:51
Speaker 1: you'll sneak in to see what Mestemaker looks like for
17:55
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State in Tulsa as they play Tulsa. And then
17:59
Speaker 1: the most competitive game on paper should be Tulane and
18:02
Speaker 1: Duke afternoon window on the ACC network, though Tulane won't
18:05
Speaker 1: be as good as they were last year and Duke
18:07
Speaker 1: won't be as good as they were last year. they
18:09
Speaker 1: will be close in talent level. Yeah, I'm interested actually
18:12
Speaker 1: in that 245 ESPNU kick just to see Mastemaker at
18:15
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State because that's a team that has become a
18:17
Speaker 1: sexy pick to ruin it for somebody. Maybe not play
18:20
Speaker 1: for the Big 12, but to maybe sneak in the
18:23
Speaker 1: bottom of the top 25 at the end of the year.
18:24
Speaker 2: Well, that offense was so dominant last year. It was
18:27
Speaker 2: the number one offense. They lead the FBS in first-year transfers.
18:34
Speaker 2: So Caleb Hawkins, Drew Mestemaker, I think the offense is
18:36
Speaker 2: going to be really good. I stole them late last night.
18:39
Speaker 2: I think there's six wins.
18:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, I think you get
18:42
Speaker 3: six or seven wins out of them if you have
18:43
Speaker 3: them in some sort of fantasy pool.
18:45
Speaker 1: In that prime window, Clemson and LSU on ABC is
18:48
Speaker 1: by far the best. We'll look in on the SEC
18:51
Speaker 1: Network to see John Summerall's debut at Florida to see
18:55
Speaker 1: what that looks like. NBC, can Western Michigan pull an
18:59
Speaker 1: Appalachian State and go into the big house and beat Michigan?
19:02
Speaker 1: Sexy upset pick for some people around the country. Other
19:04
Speaker 1: than that, not a ton of good games, except maybe
19:07
Speaker 1: on ESPN +. Arkansas State and Memphis, LT thinks we
19:10
Speaker 1: could see an upset there.
19:12
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you could, yeah. And I think with Mississippi State,
19:15
Speaker 3: just see a little Camario Taylor.
19:17
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
19:18
Speaker 3: I think I'll watch some of that with ULM at
19:20
Speaker 3: 630 on ESPNU, just see him play a little bit.
19:22
Speaker 1: Yep, and then late night, that UCLA-California game on ESPN
19:26
Speaker 1: will be fun watching late.
19:28
Speaker 2: And UNLV can get death-nailed.
19:31
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, if they lose to Hawaii. I mean, they're
19:33
Speaker 3: two and a.
19:33
Speaker 2: Half point favorites right now.
19:35
Speaker 3: On the island?
19:35
Speaker 2: On the island. I think Hawaii does. I mean, look,
19:37
Speaker 2: that was devastating. The one turnover led to the scoop
19:41
Speaker 2: and score, but Hawaii played much better in the second half.
19:44
Speaker 3: I know Hawaii had to travel just as far as
19:46
Speaker 3: UNLV did to get back to the island. That feels
19:48
Speaker 3: like a bad setup, though, for you. UNLV having to
19:51
Speaker 3: play late that Saturday and the emotional loss to Memphis
19:56
Speaker 3: on a big stage for them. It was a big
19:57
Speaker 3: game for them. Yeah. and then have to travel to
19:59
Speaker 3: Hawaii to play, that's a tough spot for them. I
20:01
Speaker 3: agree with Lance.
20:02
Speaker 1: Mostly just a letdown of thinking we're about to be
20:05
Speaker 1: the group of six and now facing an uphill battle
20:08
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20:08
Speaker 3: And I was in an environment where people were doing
20:10
Speaker 3: the wave at the wrong time. Now you're going to
20:11
Speaker 3: go play in that little high school stadium at Hawaii? Yeah.
20:14
Speaker 3: That's going to be a weird game for them.
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Speaker 1: Kalen DeVore, Alabama's head coach, on how he's preparing his
21:01
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Speaker 5: How do you prepare Kalen Russell for the atmosphere as going.
21:14
Speaker 3: Into his first year?
21:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's where it's nice that he's been here
21:19
Speaker 5: for a year. Kalen having been here You know, last season,
21:23
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21:26
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21:32
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21:39
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21:43
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21:46
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21:49
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21:54
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21:57
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21:59
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22:02
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22:05
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22:09
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Speaker 1: on First Take and Get Up. Debating hot seat for
23:37
Speaker 1: Kalen DeBoer, the future of Kalen DeBoer, all of this
23:41
Speaker 1: of Kalen DeBoer. I think we've all said this all
23:44
Speaker 1: summer long. Kalen DeBoer ain't losing his job this year
23:48
Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa. It would take five and seven, four and
23:51
Speaker 1: eight for him to lose his job.
23:53
Speaker 2: Or something crazy off field, which you never worry about
23:55
Speaker 2: with Kalen DeBoer.
23:56
Speaker 1: He got a new contract, Jimmy Sexton negotiated, for $ 87 million.
24:02
Speaker 1: And there's no mitigation. It runs through 2033. No mitigation, Brownie,
24:08
Speaker 1: means what? It means Alabama owes him $ 87 million.
24:13
Speaker 3: Even if he takes another job. That's right. That's what
24:15
Speaker 3: no mitigation means is if he takes another job, the
24:18
Speaker 3: salary of that job does not work against what Alabama's
24:20
Speaker 3: buying out. So you pay the whole amount regardless. That's right.
24:23
Speaker 1: You're going to pay him $ 87 million if you get
24:26
Speaker 1: rid of him regardless. And I personally don't think Alabama
24:30
Speaker 1: has that kind of money, and I don't think it'd
24:31
Speaker 1: be smart. barring just a total disaster, to make that move.
24:36
Speaker 1: So this whole discussion on the networks in the morning
24:40
Speaker 1: about his job future is really a waste of airtime,
24:45
Speaker 1: in my opinion. But staff changes are a different thing.
24:49
Speaker 1: You touched on this yesterday. The hottest seat in Tuscaloosa
24:52
Speaker 1: is not Kalen DeBoer.
24:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Ryan Grubb, and I think he got magnified
24:56
Speaker 2: last year when you saw Mike McDonald and the Seattle
24:58
Speaker 2: Seahawks win a Super Bowl. and your Super Bowl MVP
25:02
Speaker 2: was Kenneth Walker, a running back, and they could not
25:04
Speaker 2: run the football. I think they were 31-32 in the
25:06
Speaker 2: NFL two years ago. Ryan Grubb comes into Tuscaloosa. They
25:11
Speaker 2: cannot run the football. Alabama fans hated to see that.
25:14
Speaker 2: We know head coaches. The scapegoat is typically one of
25:17
Speaker 2: the coordinators, sometimes both of the coordinators. I think what's fascinating, though,
25:21
Speaker 2: if Alabama went 9-3 back to Kalen DeBoer's first year,
25:26
Speaker 2: they missed the college football playoff. USC goes 7-5, they
25:30
Speaker 2: fire Lincoln Riley, USC offers Kayla DeBoer. Is it kind
25:33
Speaker 2: of a mutual decision at that point where Alabama fans
25:37
Speaker 2: are like, I did an okay job, but we don't
25:39
Speaker 2: have a problem with him leaving, and USC fans are
25:41
Speaker 2: kind of excited about him coming back West Coast?
25:44
Speaker 1: I think that was the scenario that was unfolding last
25:46
Speaker 1: year until Alabama ended up with Michigan until Alabama ended up.
25:51
Speaker 1: Coming back and winning the Iron Bowl, holding on that
25:53
Speaker 1: big fourth down play, Ty Simpson to the end zone.
25:55
Speaker 1: If that gets knocked down and Alabama loses the Iron Bowl,
25:58
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised at all if Kalen DeBoer
26:01
Speaker 1: was the head coach of Michigan.
26:03
Speaker 3: Certainly, Jimmy Sexton convinced Alabama that was going to be
26:05
Speaker 3: the case.
26:06
Speaker 2: But it's going to be devastating for Alabama fans if
26:08
Speaker 2: they go 9-3 and miss a college football playoff.
26:10
Speaker 3: No matter who the coach is, Kalen DeBoer.
26:12
Speaker 2: I know, but Kalen DeBoer is going to be like, damn,
26:14
Speaker 2: I've been winning a lot of games here, and it's
26:16
Speaker 2: just not good enough. So I could see a scenario
26:18
Speaker 2: like that possibly play out. I think Alabama's going to
26:21
Speaker 2: be better than 9-3. I think they're going to be 10-2. Again,
26:23
Speaker 2: I think we've all got them in the college football playoff.
26:26
Speaker 3: I know I do, yeah. I do.
26:27
Speaker 5: No, no, no.
26:28
Speaker 3: I think Alabama's going to play for the SEC championship.
26:30
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be that good. I do
26:33
Speaker 3: think it is silly to talk about him getting fired,
26:35
Speaker 3: if nothing else, for the money. That's right. I mean,
26:38
Speaker 3: if nothing else, just start with the money. First of all,
26:41
Speaker 3: Alabama paid the biggest buyout on record to hire a
26:45
Speaker 3: coach away from the school. Not to fire a coach.
26:48
Speaker 3: That's Jimbo. But the money that you pay to another
26:52
Speaker 3: school to hire their coach... Is a record. That's the record.
26:56
Speaker 3: That's the most anybody that follows this says that's the
26:59
Speaker 3: most that has ever been paid. So you're already pot
27:01
Speaker 3: committed on what you paid to get him. You're already
27:03
Speaker 3: in the hole because nobody came and hired Nick Saban away.
27:06
Speaker 3: So you didn't get a buyout from another school that
27:08
Speaker 3: you're just flipping... You paid all that out of pocket,
27:11
Speaker 3: so you're already in for $ 10 million and whatever you
27:15
Speaker 3: had to buy the coaches out for. And then you're
27:17
Speaker 3: going to double down on that with a buyout on
27:19
Speaker 3: a contract you just extended and added $ 2 million to,
27:22
Speaker 3: which adds to the 90% buyout that he gets. You
27:25
Speaker 3: just did that last year. It doesn't even make business
27:27
Speaker 3: sense to do it. Now, let me just quickly say it.
27:30
Speaker 3: I see college athletics programs all the time do stuff
27:33
Speaker 3: that doesn't make business sense. They pay big buyouts that
27:35
Speaker 3: you're like, what are you doing? The whole reason we
27:37
Speaker 3: even have these big buyouts is because colleges do things
27:39
Speaker 3: that don't make business sense.
27:40
Speaker 1: But these numbers would be equivalent, if you got rid
27:42
Speaker 1: of DeBoer after this year, to Jimbo Fisher's buyout.
27:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be right there. It's the biggest buyouts of
27:48
Speaker 3: all time, of course, Jimbo Fisher and Kayla DeBoer.
27:51
Speaker 2: I mean, Jimbo Fisher deserved to lose his job based
27:53
Speaker 2: on the expectation there. Back to what you said, there
27:56
Speaker 2: is zero chance performance-wise he loses his job.
27:59
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm with you 100% on Ryan Grubb.
28:04
Speaker 3: They're good friends.
28:05
Speaker 1: They've been together forever. It'd be a tough decision. But
28:07
Speaker 1: if that offense can't run the football again this year,
28:10
Speaker 1: I think that'd be a tough call. But DeBoer would
28:12
Speaker 1: probably change O.C.
28:15
Speaker 3: Saying what a dumb discussion this is but the discussion
28:18
Speaker 3: not not because we say it should go away i'm
28:20
Speaker 3: just saying it doesn't go away for some.
28:21
Speaker 1: Reason well i think the reason it doesn't on uh
28:25
Speaker 1: get up and first take is because much like the
28:27
Speaker 1: cowboys it's the logo is good tv the logo is
28:32
Speaker 1: good tv and the firing of the nick saban's successor
28:35
Speaker 1: is good TV.
28:36
Speaker 2: Well, I think more interesting would be Sark in Texas.
28:39
Speaker 2: I mean, there is a chance Sark could get fired
28:42
Speaker 2: performance-wise this year.
28:43
Speaker 3: That's my bold prediction. Yeah, that they buy him out.
28:45
Speaker 2: Texas, I'm not saying historically, but the brand is every
28:49
Speaker 2: bit as big as Alabama right now.
28:50
Speaker 3: It is the number one brand in college athletics. The
28:53
Speaker 3: Athletic did a poll.
28:54
Speaker 2: That's what's surprising. Why would you not have this discussion
28:57
Speaker 2: more with those guys?
28:58
Speaker 3: That's right.
28:59
Speaker 2: Over Caleb or all you got to do is have
29:01
Speaker 2: one guy that is, you know, got the facts and
29:03
Speaker 2: they know what that buyout is. And everybody knows that
29:06
Speaker 2: it's almost impossible to pay.
29:07
Speaker 3: Well, and the buyout is 90% of DeBoer's remaining contract,
29:11
Speaker 3: which that shrinks every day. Obviously Sark's buyout in season
29:15
Speaker 3: is 60 million end of season is 55 million. So
29:18
Speaker 3: it's still huge, still huge, but digestible. Yeah. As crazy
29:22
Speaker 3: as that sounds with Texas money, 55 million is digestible,
29:25
Speaker 3: but they're eight and four and nowhere close to the playoffs.
29:28
Speaker 5: Yeah.
29:30
Speaker 1: Maybe you start thinking about that because you've run through
29:33
Speaker 1: the Mannings here pretty good. I got some coaches here that,
29:38
Speaker 1: just tell me, you think they won? one day coach
29:41
Speaker 1: at a better job than they have right now or not, okay?
29:44
Speaker 3: Okay.
29:44
Speaker 1: I'll read them out to you. Better job or not
29:46
Speaker 1: one day. In the SEC, Eli Drinkwitz, do you think
29:50
Speaker 1: he ever leaves Missouri?
29:52
Speaker 3: Better job or not? I think Drink's got the best
29:54
Speaker 3: job he'll ever have.
29:59
Speaker 2: To get a better job, I think he would have
30:01
Speaker 2: to get to a college football playoff. I don't think
30:03
Speaker 2: that happens this year. And maybe, I mean, he does
30:06
Speaker 2: seem happy there. He's making a lot of money. What
30:08
Speaker 2: is he making? Seven, eight million dollars?
30:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, the problem is not, never making the playoffs is,
30:13
Speaker 3: even in Missouri, that's eventually going to be like, you know,
30:16
Speaker 3: what are we, you know, we're spinning wheels in the
30:17
Speaker 3: mud here. Let's, let's buy him out and make a change.
30:20
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to make a change, so.
30:21
Speaker 2: I mean, and most people think the greatest coach in
30:23
Speaker 2: Missouri history is Gary Pinkle. I don't think there's much
30:25
Speaker 2: of a discussion there, so.
30:27
Speaker 3: But he didn't do a lot, really. I mean, he
30:28
Speaker 3: won a lot of games, but.
30:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, playing for two SEC championships is pretty impressive.
30:33
Speaker 2: I know people will point to the Old East.
30:35
Speaker 3: And had them in a one-versus-two game with Kansas. I mean,
30:37
Speaker 3: that's pretty crazy.
30:38
Speaker 2: And had them in a two-versus-four game against Auburn.
30:41
Speaker 3: Yeah. A winner, and he probably plays for the BCS.
30:44
Speaker 2: With all that said, I think Drink, if he's wise–
30:48
Speaker 2: you know, really gets, becomes a guy that the Missouri
30:52
Speaker 2: fans love. And I think most Missouri fans really do
30:55
Speaker 2: like him.
30:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
30:56
Speaker 2: And just stay there forever.
30:57
Speaker 3: Clark Lee Vanderbilt.
30:58
Speaker 1: Is he, I mean, he's, he's a Vandy guy and
31:01
Speaker 1: he's doing great things there, but.
31:03
Speaker 3: It's interesting. We've, we've discussed now I'll tell you, here's
31:06
Speaker 3: a path to him doing this because we've discussed this
31:10
Speaker 3: before that at the time, it looked like he had
31:12
Speaker 3: the worst timing in the history of coaching decisions because
31:15
Speaker 3: he Brian Kelly takes the LSU job the year after
31:18
Speaker 3: Clark Lee takes the Vandy job. If Clark Lee is
31:20
Speaker 3: still defensive coordinator at Vandy, Marcus Freeman's not your head
31:23
Speaker 3: coach at Notre Dame. It's Clark Lee. If Marcus Freeman
31:27
Speaker 3: ever decided to go to the NFL, and there continues
31:29
Speaker 3: to be talk about that. He really says, no, I'm
31:32
Speaker 3: not interested. He does, but there continues to be talk.
31:34
Speaker 3: If he ever went to the NFL, I would think
31:36
Speaker 3: the obvious choice for Notre Dame would be to look
31:39
Speaker 3: at Clark Lee, a guy that head coached there and
31:40
Speaker 3: is going to Vandy and had success. I think Kalen
31:42
Speaker 3: DeBoer would be in the mix, too.
31:44
Speaker 2: I would.
31:46
Speaker 3: No disrespect to Kelly DeBoer, I'd hire Clark Lee before him.
31:49
Speaker 3: If I'm Notre Dame. I'm not saying any job, but
31:51
Speaker 3: if I'm Notre Dame.
31:52
Speaker 2: If you're Clark Lee, I think he's happy at Vanderbilt,
31:54
Speaker 2: but what you've got to figure out is, is Vanderbilt
31:56
Speaker 2: ever going to go back to a 3-4-5 win team?
32:00
Speaker 2: Because if they do, Clark Lee is expendable at that point.
32:04
Speaker 3: If you're wearing the USC rollback hoodie there, if it
32:08
Speaker 3: did go down with Lincoln Riley and they looked at
32:10
Speaker 3: Clark Lee, would you be excited about that?
32:14
Speaker 2: Excited, no. But the guy knows how to build a program.
32:18
Speaker 2: I mean, the culture seems really, really good.
32:19
Speaker 3: It's funny. I thought that's the way you would answer it.
32:21
Speaker 3: It's like, I know he's a good coach. He knows
32:23
Speaker 3: how to build a program. But would I be excited
32:25
Speaker 3: to get him? No.
32:26
Speaker 2: I'd be excited about Kalen DeBoer.
32:28
Speaker 3: In what world do we live in, though, that the
32:31
Speaker 3: best coach in Vanderbilt history, a guy that's actually winning
32:33
Speaker 3: games at Vanderbilt, had him on the precipice of a
32:35
Speaker 3: college football playoff, and you're not excited to get him?
32:38
Speaker 2: That's kind of crazy. I don't think people give Clark
32:40
Speaker 2: Lee the credit. They give it to Diego Pavia, right?
32:42
Speaker 2: A lot of them give it to Jerry Kill, too,
32:44
Speaker 2: which is crazy.
32:46
Speaker 3: I would say Diego Pavia, by the way, in my
32:48
Speaker 3: algorithm this morning. Welcome.
32:51
Speaker 2: He.
32:53
Speaker 2: Is he not in the 5-5, by the way?
32:55
Speaker 3: He was. Absolutely. He could be, yeah, if he wanted to.
32:58
Speaker 3: Because he's out at Baltimore.
33:00
Speaker 1: Diego Pavia is hinting that he may consider going down
33:04
Speaker 1: the WWE path.
33:06
Speaker 5: Okay.
33:07
Speaker 3: That dude's barely 5'9. What's he got to do in
33:10
Speaker 3: the WWE? Whatever. I mean, he would be pretty entertaining.
33:15
Speaker 3: I guess.
33:16
Speaker 2: I think Sporting State might have reached out to him.
33:18
Speaker 3: Okay, good.
33:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.
33:19
Speaker 3: In that case, I love Diego. Yeah. As a weekly
33:23
Speaker 3: guest or his own show? I don't know all the details.
33:27
Speaker 2: Okay. Hey, but I'll tell you, how good would he
33:29
Speaker 2: be at tailgates around the SEC?
33:30
Speaker 3: It would be really good. It would be really good.
33:34
Speaker 3: What about Red Lashley at SMU? I think he's got
33:37
Speaker 3: another stop in him. Now, SMU can make that an
33:39
Speaker 3: attractive enough job to keep him. They've got the money
33:41
Speaker 3: to do it. Dallas is a great place. He's already
33:44
Speaker 3: been to the playoff there.
33:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't figure this out because I would say this.
33:48
Speaker 2: Last year I would have said Kyle Winningham is going
33:50
Speaker 2: to be at Utah forever. I would have said Matt
33:52
Speaker 2: Campbell is going to be in Ames forever. So like
33:56
Speaker 2: these are really difficult questions because there's so much money
33:59
Speaker 2: out there now. And if you get in a comfortable
34:00
Speaker 2: situation and you have opportunities, which Matt Campbell, again, had
34:04
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get to a college football playoff, but
34:07
Speaker 2: decided to take a bigger, more prestigious job.
34:09
Speaker 3: We played a soundbite earlier from a Dabo Swinney that's
34:12
Speaker 3: tired of the way college football is. If Dabo retired,
34:16
Speaker 3: I think Tony Elliott's your obvious choice there, but that's
34:18
Speaker 3: the type of job I could see Rhett Lashley getting.
34:20
Speaker 3: But is it easier to win at SMU or Clemson?
34:21
Speaker 4: I don't know.
34:22
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say. You're in conference there,
34:24
Speaker 3: and is that an obvious– I can't believe I'm about
34:26
Speaker 3: to ask this question. Is it an obvious upgrade going
34:29
Speaker 3: from SMU to Clemson right now?
34:31
Speaker 1: In this era of college football, and I've told this
34:34
Speaker 1: to people who work in coaching before, the first thing
34:37
Speaker 1: I would look at is how easy is it to
34:39
Speaker 1: have NIL money?
34:41
Speaker 3: Forget the history.
34:42
Speaker 5: Yeah.
34:43
Speaker 1: How easy is it to have NIL money? I mean,
34:46
Speaker 1: we're never going to beat Alabama's history.
34:48
Speaker 3: But how easy is it to.
34:50
Speaker 1: Get NIL money in Alabama or is it to get
34:52
Speaker 1: NIL money in Michigan?
34:53
Speaker 3: We live in a world when Michigan fired Sharon Moore,
34:56
Speaker 3: if they had said, boy, this Curt Signetti guy, do
34:59
Speaker 3: you think he obviously takes that job? No.
35:01
Speaker 2: Well, I was going to go back to Michigan. Let's
35:03
Speaker 2: go back to what we're saying. Let's go back to
35:05
Speaker 2: the DeBoer scenario. Cignetti has roots to Alabama. He's coached
35:09
Speaker 2: here before.
35:09
Speaker 3: That's right.
35:10
Speaker 2: DeBoer takes USC. Alabama offers the Indiana coach the head job.
35:15
Speaker 3: I don't think he leaves. I don't think he would.
35:17
Speaker 3: That's the world we live in. I don't know if
35:18
Speaker 3: he would have taken the Michigan job, and I don't
35:21
Speaker 3: know in that scenario if he takes the Bama job.
35:23
Speaker 3: We're in an upside-down world in football. Kalani Satake at BYU.
35:28
Speaker 3: Do you think he'll stay there? It just feels like
35:32
Speaker 3: such a fit.
35:32
Speaker 2: That's his school, and I think they've got money hidden somewhere.
35:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
35:36
Speaker 2: And they'll spend it on a need-to-spend basis.
35:40
Speaker 3: And they're private, so what he gets reported as making,
35:43
Speaker 3: is that exactly what he makes? I'm with Lance. Money's
35:46
Speaker 3: not going to be an issue for him. He got
35:48
Speaker 3: a new contract.
35:49
Speaker 2: He loves Provo.
35:50
Speaker 3: I think he loves Provo. I think they're good enough
35:52
Speaker 3: that they can contend and win the Big 12 some
35:54
Speaker 3: and get in the playoff. Feels like Kenny Dillingham may
35:56
Speaker 3: have missed his window.
35:57
Speaker 2: I agree.
35:59
Speaker 3: I agree. I mean, I don't know what jobs he
36:01
Speaker 3: could have gotten coming off that playoff run, but he
36:03
Speaker 3: probably should have taken them if he wants to leave Tempe.
36:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, that's not a bad job.
36:07
Speaker 1: No, and if he's found that guy, apparently he's found
36:11
Speaker 1: a guy to write a big check because their NIL
36:13
Speaker 1: spending has gone up. Maybe he's where he wants to be.
36:17
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Speaker 1: we just going to call it fifth year senior? Because,
36:42
Speaker 1: you know, it's five for five from now on. So
36:46
Speaker 1: you have a freshman, a sophomore, a junior and a senior.
36:49
Speaker 1: We don't really The fifth year guys, we're going to
36:52
Speaker 1: call them fifth year seniors? Or do we need to
36:54
Speaker 1: go with another name to go with freshmen, sophomore, juniors,
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Speaker 1: and seniors?
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Speaker 3: Super senior? Super senior. Yeah.
37:01
Speaker 4: They've been listing them on rosters now as GR, graduate.
37:05
Speaker 3: Graduate. Because a super senior would be somebody who's like
37:08
Speaker 3: repeating a grade. In high school, at least, that's what
37:11
Speaker 3: we called those people.
37:12
Speaker 2: You called them that? That's what they were called.
37:15
Speaker 1: I think graduates is misleading, too, because I would believe
37:18
Speaker 1: there are some players who don't have degrees who are
37:21
Speaker 1: playing in their fifth year. I mean, obviously some, like
37:23
Speaker 1: Austin Mack at Alabama already has his degree. He's graduated
37:28
Speaker 1: before the season started, and he's got a couple of
37:30
Speaker 1: years of eligibility left.
37:31
Speaker 3: That's when they get to wear that badge. But I
37:32
Speaker 3: understand what you're saying, that.
37:35
Speaker 4: All I know is when I looked at Indiana's roster
37:37
Speaker 4: to put that graphic together last year about all the
37:39
Speaker 4: players they had that were super old, had like 20-something
37:43
Speaker 4: players with GR as their class level.
37:45
Speaker 1: Well, you know, LT makes a point about how old
37:47
Speaker 1: this Virginia team is. They've got 13 players with seven or.
37:51
Speaker 3: More years of experience.
37:53
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
37:53
Speaker 3: Six or seven? Six or seven years of experience, 13 players.
37:57
Speaker 3: I mean, that really is crazy.
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Speaker 4: I guess they got grandfathered into the five-year-old.
38:02
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38:05
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Speaker 3: I think I'm right about this.
39:40
Speaker 1: Louisville versus Ole Miss is the only ranked versus ranked
39:44
Speaker 1: game we have this opening weekend.
39:45
Speaker 3: You are right.
39:46
Speaker 2: Aaron McClain's right, though. Clemson probably should be ranked.
39:49
Speaker 1: Clemson and LSU is the marquee game. Here's Lane Kiffin
39:53
Speaker 1: on being the marquee game.
39:56
Speaker 3: Of the weekend.
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Speaker 6: It's awesome having College Game Day here. I think that
40:00
Speaker 6: speaks a lot of where LSU is as a program
40:06
Speaker 6: and how it's viewed. And that's really exciting. It's what
40:10
Speaker 6: kids want. They want to be the national game of
40:13
Speaker 6: the week and they want college game day to cover them.
40:15
Speaker 6: So I'm really excited for that part. But again, this
40:19
Speaker 6: will be about preparation, not hype. There's so much hype
40:22
Speaker 6: into this game, so much excitement from our fan base
40:27
Speaker 6: to watch us. Probably that same excitement for everybody else
40:30
Speaker 6: in the country to root the other way against us.
40:34
Speaker 6: And just a lot of work went into it. It's
40:37
Speaker 6: been whatever, seven, eight months of getting to this point.
40:41
Speaker 6: And I always look at the game really as like
40:43
Speaker 6: a performance. And the players do all this work. The
40:47
Speaker 6: coaches do all this work to make sure they put
40:49
Speaker 6: the best performance out there for our people and our fans.
40:54
Speaker 2: I think, unfortunately, for people that are pulling against Lane
40:56
Speaker 2: in this game, I think he's going to have this
41:00
Speaker 2: team really ready.
41:01
Speaker 1: So you're not expecting any kind of a letdown from
41:04
Speaker 1: LSU going into this contest?
41:05
Speaker 2: Well, the only letdown would be if Clemson is better
41:09
Speaker 2: than advertised, which they could be.
41:11
Speaker 3: Which is why I'm a little high on Clemson. I
41:13
Speaker 3: think Clemson, like we talked about with Eric, has been
41:16
Speaker 3: laying in the weeds. Everybody's focused on LSU.
41:18
Speaker 2: And I told you, and Dunaway will love this, I
41:21
Speaker 2: took Clemson in our draft last night. I got them late.
41:23
Speaker 3: I got to pull for Dabo this year.
41:26
Speaker 2: But I actually went through their schedule multiple times. I
41:30
Speaker 2: think they're 10-2 this year. I really do. And I
41:32
Speaker 2: think they lose this game, but I think they end
41:34
Speaker 2: up 10-2.
41:35
Speaker 1: Brown and Brooks have them in the upset alert this week.
41:39
Speaker 1: We showed you those yesterday. I sort of blame this
41:43
Speaker 1: a little bit on the growing Kirk Cignetti effect and
41:48
Speaker 1: the lack of college football playoff committee strength of schedule dynamic,
41:54
Speaker 1: not putting enough into the strength of schedule. This week
41:58
Speaker 1: one is not littered with great games. And that feels
42:02
Speaker 1: to be, I think more and more people are going
42:05
Speaker 1: to Cignetti plans. I mean, we've lost some games that
42:08
Speaker 1: were supposed to be big here. They've been changed out.
42:12
Speaker 1: You've got Alabama, who under Nick Saban usually had a
42:14
Speaker 1: marquee opener. I would say 75% of the time they
42:18
Speaker 1: had one of those neutral site off-campus games against a
42:21
Speaker 1: marquee brand. You have it nowhere on the schedule except
42:26
Speaker 1: a couple of games. Wisconsin-Notre Dame, when it was Book
42:31
Speaker 1: to play at Lambeau Field. That was supposed to be
42:33
Speaker 1: a big game. Yeah, I mean, you can't help the
42:35
Speaker 1: fact Notre Dame agreed to do this. You can't help
42:38
Speaker 1: the fact that Luke Fickle can't get it going in Wisconsin.
42:40
Speaker 1: That's not Notre Dame's fault. But let me put this
42:42
Speaker 1: perspective for you. Okay, let me put this perspective. If
42:45
Speaker 1: you forgot.
42:46
Speaker 3: That football is on anything other than ESPN, your ESPN
42:51
Speaker 3: lineup on week one This is your ESPN lineup. It's
42:56
Speaker 3: the state of Texas, by the way. The worldwide leader
42:58
Speaker 3: in sports, guys. It's not Longhorn Network. It's ESPN. Oregon
43:02
Speaker 3: State at Houston at 11. Texas State at Texas at 230.
43:09
Speaker 3: Missouri State at Texas A & M at 6. And
43:13
Speaker 3: the only good game in all of that, UCLA at
43:15
Speaker 3: Cal at 930. Yeah. I mean, that is a terrible ESPN.
43:19
Speaker 3: That sounds like, if I told you, that's ESPNU's lineup.
43:23
Speaker 3: On week three, you'd be like, okay, that's a pretty
43:25
Speaker 3: good ESPNU lineup. That's main ESPN.
43:27
Speaker 1: Let me give you two games that just show you
43:30
Speaker 1: where we are in college football. That my grandfather, even
43:33
Speaker 1: my dad, who both have passed away now, they wouldn't
43:36
Speaker 1: believe this if I told them. That UCLA and California
43:41
Speaker 1: would be playing each other in Berkeley in a matchup
43:44
Speaker 1: between the Big Ten and the ACC.
43:46
Speaker 3: That's right.
43:47
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Boise State would be playing in Oregon. And the
43:52
Speaker 1: team that's wearing the Pac-12 patch is Boise State, not Oregon,
43:56
Speaker 1: who's wearing a Big Ten patch.
43:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's confusing. Is that not ironic? Yeah. Dig up
44:00
Speaker 3: our grandfathers or they would not know what they're watching.
44:02
Speaker 2: I went through this, though, talking about how bad the
44:04
Speaker 2: games are.
44:05
Speaker 5: Yeah.
44:06
Speaker 2: 21-plus spreads right now. How many do you think there
44:09
Speaker 2: are on this first card? Now, again, there's a lot
44:12
Speaker 2: of FBS, FCS.
44:14
Speaker 3: How many games do we have? I would say it's
44:16
Speaker 3: over 50%. Oh, it's over 50%, yeah.
44:18
Speaker 2: I mean, the hard number I've got right now on
44:21
Speaker 2: my count is 40.
44:21
Speaker 5: 40?
44:21
Speaker 3: Three touchdown or more point spreads at Hard Rock Bat. Again,
44:30
Speaker 3: it's why.
44:30
Speaker 2: Will we see one of these 21-point underdogs win the
44:33
Speaker 2: game outright?
44:34
Speaker 3: I would love for you to tell me which one.
44:35
Speaker 3: That's why earlier in my storyline, it's a few close
44:38
Speaker 3: games in week one. And I don't want this to
44:40
Speaker 3: be right, but I just look at what Lance said,
44:42
Speaker 3: and I'm like, we have got a full slate of
44:46
Speaker 3: teams that are three touchdown favorites. You know what you
44:48
Speaker 3: get all the time when you start talking about point spreads,
44:51
Speaker 3: you're like, You get a lot of Appalachian State and
44:54
Speaker 3: Michigan back in the day, but really you get Stanford
44:56
Speaker 3: and Jim Harbaugh beating Pete Carroll's USC team. What was that, 45?
45:00
Speaker 2: They were 41-point favorites. And I still, you know, Tevita
45:03
Speaker 2: Pritchard was the quarterback in that game. I think he
45:06
Speaker 2: was down to the third-string quarterback. Harbaugh was your coach.
45:09
Speaker 3: Made no sense.
45:10
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, we were doing the show at jocks.
45:13
Speaker 2: I guess we weren't doing one together. You guys were
45:15
Speaker 2: on 690. I was doing one with Ian at that point.
45:18
Speaker 2: But I remember Harbaugh coming on the morning show before us.
45:22
Speaker 2: That week of USC.
45:23
Speaker 3: Oh, really? Yeah.
45:25
Speaker 2: I mean, imagine getting Jim Harbaugh on before he plays
45:28
Speaker 2: USC now.
45:30
Speaker 3: There probably was not a long line. In Birmingham, Alabama.
45:33
Speaker 3: Somebody wants to talk to the Stanford coach who's a
45:35
Speaker 3: 45-point dog at USC.
45:38
Speaker 2: That's still, to me, the biggest upset I've seen in
45:40
Speaker 2: football history.
45:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it made no sense whatsoever.
45:45
Speaker 2: I just remember watching that game and just thinking, okay.
45:49
Speaker 2: There's no way they're going to win. Man, this has
45:52
Speaker 2: gotten to halftime. It's gotten to the third quarter.
45:55
Speaker 3: So Stanford is easily covered, but USC is going to
45:57
Speaker 3: escape with a win.
45:58
Speaker 2: They'll find a way to win this game.
46:00
Speaker 3: I know some of these are off-the-board games because this
46:03
Speaker 3: was technically a 1-double-A team back then, but do you
46:07
Speaker 3: remember what a suggested Michigan-Appalachian State point spread was that year?
46:12
Speaker 2: I don't think it was as big as you would
46:13
Speaker 2: think because Appalachian State had a lot of.
46:16
Speaker 3: That was a good 1AA program. They called it 1AA
46:19
Speaker 3: back then before it was XCS.
46:20
Speaker 2: I want to recall it was like 27.5. I mean,
46:21
Speaker 2: that's still pretty crazy.
46:23
Speaker 3: It's still big, yeah. Especially when it's two different divisions.
46:25
Speaker 2: I think Michigan was number three.
46:27
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was the– I'll just never forget
46:30
Speaker 3: the fact it was the first game ever on the
46:32
Speaker 3: Big Ten Network, and a lot of people were not
46:34
Speaker 3: getting the Big Ten Network then. So you were wholly
46:37
Speaker 3: dependent on the cut-ins– to see how this thing was
46:40
Speaker 3: going down. Is the Big Ten Network that old? Yeah,
46:44
Speaker 3: that was the very first game of the Big Ten Network.
46:47
Speaker 3: Because I can't remember the game I was actually watching.
46:49
Speaker 3: I remember more of the game I wasn't watching. I
46:52
Speaker 3: can't remember the game I was watching, but they cut in,
46:55
Speaker 3: and it's like middle-late fourth quarter, and Appalachian State's got
46:58
Speaker 3: the lead, and you're like, holy crap. How in the
47:01
Speaker 3: world is Michigan losing to Appalachian State? And then they
47:03
Speaker 3: do another cut in, and it's a little bit later.
47:05
Speaker 3: It feels like I was watching a Sean McDonough game.
47:07
Speaker 3: Could have been. Honest to goodness, cannot remember the game
47:10
Speaker 3: I was watching. But then I remember that last cut
47:12
Speaker 3: in when they blocked that field goal. And you could
47:16
Speaker 3: not believe what you were watching.
47:17
Speaker 2: And remember the dude tried to take it to the house.
47:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did, rather than just go down.
47:20
Speaker 2: Almost got there. I know our buddy Charlie Vettel, our
47:24
Speaker 2: big Michigan fan, is loving this discussion right now.
47:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, you watch them block that field
47:28
Speaker 3: goal on that cut in, and you're like, What have
47:30
Speaker 3: I just watched here?
47:31
Speaker 1: To your point, though, Stanford and Jim Harbaugh beating Pete
47:34
Speaker 1: Carroll's USC was technically a bigger upset.
47:37
Speaker 3: Oh, by point spread, yeah.
47:39
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be Arkansas losing to North Alabama
47:42
Speaker 2: this week. Just put some of these in perspective. That's 40-and-a-half.
47:45
Speaker 2: That would be Indiana losing to North Texas. Do you
47:48
Speaker 2: think people would love that?
47:49
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, they would. It would be Missouri State beating
47:52
Speaker 3: Texas A & M. 41-and-a-half is what I saw that.
47:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, that's kind of the realm this
47:58
Speaker 2: is in, so. I mean, those kind of upsets seem impossible.
48:01
Speaker 3: But I think if most people, if you say, what
48:02
Speaker 3: is the biggest upset in college history, they're going to
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Speaker 3: say Appalachian State over Michigan. Not because of the point spread,
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Speaker 3: but because of, like you said, Michigan was number three
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Speaker 3: and Appalachian State was an FCS team.
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Speaker 2: That cost USC a national championship.
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Speaker 3: Yes. Oh, the Stanford one. I know. I'm well aware
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Speaker 3: of that. But I just think perspective-wise, a lot of
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Speaker 3: people don't look at point spreads when they say that,
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Speaker 3: but perspective-wise... Just the way that whole thing went down.
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Speaker 2: You even wonder in a 12-team playoff, like, if USC
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Speaker 2: doesn't get in because of a loss like that that late.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that was a terrible loss. But see,
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Speaker 3: when was that? What part of the year was that?
48:36
Speaker 3: Was it November? What year was that?
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Speaker 2: 2007.
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Speaker 3: So that was the year.
48:40
Speaker 1: Because I was watching Saturday Down South last night, or
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Speaker 1: Saturday in the South, whatever the documentary is on ESPN.
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Speaker 3: It's been out for years now. But there was the
48:50
Speaker 3: episode where the 2007 season was part of it.
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Speaker 1: And, you know, LSU had the big win over Florida
48:59
Speaker 1: and Tim Tebow and then the National Champions. And then
49:01
Speaker 1: they went and lost to Kentucky in triple overtime. And
49:04
Speaker 1: then they've worked their way back into position. And then
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Speaker 1: they lose to Arkansas in triple overtime.
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Speaker 3: Last week of the season, lose to Arkansas. And they
49:09
Speaker 3: thought everything had changed. And then they're in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: And we all run in for that news conference that
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Speaker 1: was there before the game. Les Miles called a news
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Speaker 1: conference because Herbst I was wrong it was October okay
49:22
Speaker 1: yeah but still it's 2007 Herb Street had said on
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Speaker 1: game day of championship Saturday that his sources were telling
49:29
Speaker 1: him that Les Miles was going to be the next
49:31
Speaker 1: coach at Michigan and so then Les Miles says hey
49:35
Speaker 1: give me a news conference before We even start warm-ups.
49:37
Speaker 1: And so everybody runs in there, sets up their cameras.
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Speaker 1: Before the SEC championship game.
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Speaker 3: It says, you know, I'm going to be the coach
49:44
Speaker 3: at LSU.
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Speaker 2: Have a great day.
49:45
Speaker 3: Have a great day. Have a great day.
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Speaker 1: And then they go out and they win and they
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Speaker 1: go on and get a chance to play for the
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Speaker 1: national championship. Because I think USC rallied. Didn't they end
49:53
Speaker 1: up losing to UCLA at the end?
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Speaker 2: No, that was 2006. 2007, they lost at Oregon. So
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Speaker 2: they lost two games.
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Speaker 3: Stanford at home and at Oregon? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: This box score, I'm just looking at it. Tevita Pritchard
50:05
Speaker 2: was 11 of 30 in the Coliseum, and they win
50:07
Speaker 2: the game. Oh, wow. 24-23. John David Booty, four picks.
50:12
Speaker 2: I knew he turned the ball over. I didn't know
50:13
Speaker 2: it was that much. I mean, Stanford averaged 2.2 yards
50:15
Speaker 2: per carry, 86 rushing yards per. Tevita Pritchard was 11
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Speaker 2: of 30, and they won the game.
50:21
Speaker 3: How'd they win the game? How'd they score enough points?
50:23
Speaker 2: It was the four turnovers.
50:24
Speaker 3: Even with four turnovers. What was the final score of
50:28
Speaker 3: that game?
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Speaker 2: 24-23.
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Speaker 3: Bring it full circle, Jim.
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Speaker 4: It was West Virginia losing to Pittsburgh that day that
50:35
Speaker 4: got LSU into the national championship.
50:37
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, full circle with a rich-rod game.
50:39
Speaker 1: Well, I just remember everybody, because I remember staying up
50:42
Speaker 1: at night because SportsCenter, there were coaches.
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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll was on.
50:48
Speaker 1: There were coaches, they were getting live on phone interviews
50:51
Speaker 1: to plea for their case, why they should be in.
50:54
Speaker 3: You know, we should be in, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
50:57
Speaker 1: Because back then, the AP poll, the coaches poll, and
51:01
Speaker 1: the computers made the BCS. And so coaches were basically calling,
51:06
Speaker 1: SIDs were calling sports centers saying, hey, Pete will come
51:10
Speaker 1: on with you guys, or Rich Rod will come on
51:11
Speaker 1: with you guys. And they just were one coach after
51:14
Speaker 1: the other where they were just jumping on pleading their
51:16
Speaker 1: case on why they deserve to be in. And LSU
51:19
Speaker 1: ended up getting there against Oklahoma, who was easily the
51:22
Speaker 1: number one team.
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Speaker 3: Ohio State. Ohio State was number one. Jim Trestle's team, right?
51:27
Speaker 3: What a wild season that was.
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Speaker 2: Back to Troy Smith, the last Buckeye to win.
51:32
Speaker 3: In the playoff era, we can't have that season again.
51:34
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the only time. we will ever have
51:36
Speaker 3: a season like that.
51:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
51:38
Speaker 3: Because in the playoff era, all those teams make the
51:40
Speaker 3: playoffs and they just play it out on the field.
51:42
Speaker 3: But it was a constant checkers game.
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Speaker 1: Even the bigger upset and the loss to Oregon, USC
51:47
Speaker 1: would still comfortably be in.
51:48
Speaker 2: Stanford 5 of 17 on third downs in that game.
51:51
Speaker 2: The ultimate equalizer turnovers, five turnovers for USC.
51:55
Speaker 1: Were any of those four interceptions returned to the house
51:58
Speaker 1: where they picked sixes?
51:58
Speaker 3: Had to be.
51:59
Speaker 2: I don't remember that, but had to be.
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