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S4 E2: Sweet Victory · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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H m hm fifteen decrease. You can see you breath out in the lake
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effect, breaking tables like guitar would you where else would you have to be?
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And to Ron Elvis in the lay panchol the members that you need to
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know? Don't you out here now? Your family? Where's would you have
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to be? Where else would you be? Welcome into the Nicol City Crew.
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I am your host, Rob Grippin. Please like us on Facebook and
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on Spreaker and Streamyard. We're so glad that you're joining us for some of
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your Buffalo bills and NFL content again today and as always, these are my
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bills. Thoughts, Set out loud, it sur vibe so ridiculous. Joy
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three was six show God conect us? Where's would you want to be?
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All right, let's get straight to it. I'm really really excited about tonight's
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episode. It's been a goal of mine and my co host since last year
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to just kind of do a little bit more of a concerted effort to spread
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the word, build the brand, make sure that we're doing a little bit
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of cross pollination, which is always good. Again, we simulcast on the
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Buffalo fan based podcast network again, that's Official Bills Mafia podcast Network. And
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I really have liked our guest tonight because of the fact that I just liked
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their their style. I like their podcast, like their setup, I like
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everything about it. They've got former players on there often and it's a really
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cool set up with what these three guys are doing. We're really happy to
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be joined tonight by one of the members of the k Gun Report, but
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joining me as always writing Shotgun my co host Adam dump Truck. Check them
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out on Instagram at Adam Rubsick. Are you c z e y k dt?
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Holla at the crew? What's good man? You look yeah clak,
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We're back Nicole City Crew, keep counting, counting down man coutown to kickoff
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as has begun and we're we're all immersed, We're all in it. It's
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we're in the off season, but I'm my day is still filled with Buffalo
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Bills and so so good to get back on the pod. Uh excited for
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our guests this evening to chop it up and you know, it's it's interesting,
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a lot of good stuff going on and can't wait to get down to
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it. Crew, Thanks for coming back, and it's a good season.
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We're pump, We're pup. Oh yeah, oh yeah, We're ready to
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do it. We're ready to do it. Our guests tonight really just appreciative
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that he gave us his time. Tonight, Scott read of the k Gun
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Report on Buffer Pandemonium. Listen, man, how at the crew Scott?
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You could check them out on Instagram and Twitter at Scott twenty four to seven
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BF. Holla at the crew. Welcome to the crew was good man,
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Holla, guys, I'm so excited to be here. When you reached out
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last week and said you want to join the show, you and I didn't
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hesitate at all. We just needed to figure out time and all that,
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and it's working out for us. At twenty four to seven buff Any Morning,
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which is the group. We run the k Gun Report in Sunday sessions
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and we love to surround ourselves with like people, and you guys are a
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group of people. Buff Fan Base is a group of people that give the
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fans a voice, let the people be heard in the comments and all that
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stuff. And that's what we appreciate about this whole group. And you're right,
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we need to cross pollin. They get to know each other a little
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more, spread our optimistic glad to be here. Rob, thank you and
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dump truck Man. This is awesome. We're gonna have some fun. Let's
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do it. Man. I'm really happy that you joined us tonight. You
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know, it's funny because you know, as you were talking about DT,
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you know it is the off season, but you know, we've got March
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Madness on right now. We've got a lot of different things going. Sweet
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sixteen starts tonight and kicks off. And it's funny because I was thinking about,
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you know, some of the things that go into sports, and you
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know, sports are just the great equalizer there, the ultimate competition. They
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bring people together. Nothing you know that personifies that like the Buffalo Bills and
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the Bills Baffy and we can all agree to that. You know, I
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was looking at it and I was wondering what you guys thought about it,
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because as I was thinking about March Madness, I was like, what does
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it take to be a champion? What does it take? And that's why
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I named the episode the way that I did because you know, obviously we
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are all looking for that elusive championship, whether it be for the Savers or
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the Bills, and obviously the Bills with us would just mean something so special.
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And I looked at it and I was like, well, you gotta
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have some talent, you know for sure, because there's no you know,
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crappy teams that they can just luck up on something like that. And then
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you've got to have some type of culture and you know, some type of
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people will sometimes people will scoff its culture and what does it mean and locker
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room chemistry and different things like that, and then you do need a dash
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of luck in there as well. You know, you look at March Madness
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in these last second buzzer beaters DT Scott and it's like, man, you
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do need a little bit of luck, and then that's how you get to
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that championship. And I was thinking about a conversation that came up last week
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on chopin the Bulldog, and I was wondering what you guys think about championship
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DNA and what you need, because I'm wondering if this Bill's team is constructed
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to go get one, and it's something that's just on my mind, and
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it's been on my mind. So I was hoping you could speak to that
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for me, Scott and kind of let the crew know what you thinks of
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what your thoughts are on it, because I am just I'm haunted by Super
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Bowl twenty five. Everybody knows here at the crew els five, six,
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seven, and eight for the Super Bowl run. So I was a baby,
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but I cried like a baby. What's gotten over? It's that kick
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and I just I just want to get back there. I want to get
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that glory in. And watching these guys, these young men and women getting
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in march, man, it's get ready to cut down the nets. It's
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like, man, when is it going to be our turn? Man?
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Man, I can't imagine what's going to happen when it is. I love
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how you threw in luck. There's a quote that I love. Luck is
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what happens when preparation meets opportunity. And you do need that. I mean,
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we always hear all the time, playoff time, when teams become hot,
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when's the perfect time. And as far as the recipe goes, thirty
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teams out of the thirty two teams in the NFL has the recipe. These
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guys are full of NFL talent, There's no doubt about it. There's teams
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that have top five defenses that make the super Bowl and win with a Trent
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Deal for quarterback. So there's a lot of luck that has to do with
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it. So hard to get to the playoffs. We know that with the
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drought guys, and then when it's hard to win. But we do have
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everything it takes. We have the right coach. I believe we do have
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the right coach. You don't want to start getting new coaches in the system
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because then it's a building from the ground up. Again. We have right.
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You guys think we have our quarterback? I think so. I think
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so. Yeah, yeah, the Madden cover says so. And no,
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no matter what we do with our defense, even with the injuries we had
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last year, we still find a way to be in games and be the
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top five defense in the league. So we have everything it takes. It's
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just the luck part. The injuries. Okay, the injuries a bad call
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sometimes with us, as Bill's fans think that the rest are against us,
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right they are, they're not, but that's what it is. All thirty
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two teams have a chance all thirty out of thirty two teams. Because there
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are a handful we can say there's no way, but that luck part is
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a big part of it. And you need to get hot when it happens,
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and you need to stay healthy. DT. Do I have the right
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equation? I said, talent plus your culture? You know, I mean
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it's important that the guys like each other. Now they're from different backgrounds and
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stuff like that, so everybody's different. So you're not looking for a whole
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bunch of choir boys and everybody to be from the same town. We know
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that that's not you know, realistic with a fifty three man roster, but
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you know it's important. I'll give that way to that. And then you
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do need a sprinkled dash of Look, I mean, do I have the
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right equation? DT? I mean, I don't know, man, I
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don't know. Well, I think definitely the first two. The luck situation
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is, you know, I don't think you're winning a championship on luck.
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Maybe there might be a play in the Super Bowl that is lucky that kind
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of bolts you to the win, but you're not getting lucky to get get
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to that championship. I think you've got to make your own luck in that
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in that regard, and we talked about the you know, the march madness,
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and that kind of puts it in perspective of there's obviously upsets every year,
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you know this, but but it also seems like the top team not
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it is all, not always winning it, but isn't the one, you
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know, getting caught up in these early round upsets. And you go back
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to last year at six and six and all the bs that surrounded this team
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and and everything in the and then the dark cloud over the over the city,
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and then it was kind of started clicking and winning these games and unorthodoxically
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but because we were the better team and we were built in those three phases.
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As you just talked about making your own luck too, like all right,
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enough messing around, We got to start rattling off some wins in a
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row and those good recipes. Those championship teams have that type of luck if
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you will, making your own and push forward. So I think we saw
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that, you know, in the highest degree. Obviously in the playoffs was
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a tough exit, but at that six and six situation to building up to
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kind of rallying off those wins to end out the year of you know,
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all right, this is our luck, like we're better than you, we're
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gonna go beat you, and and so that that's how I see in that
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portion of it. All right. Interesting, you know, I was thinking
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about it, and it's funny because it kind of dovetails. I know,
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we skipped last week Nicol City Crew for the first round of the tournament,
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and you know, everybody was kind of busy with that, and we understood
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it. So we took a week off last week. And it's funny because
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you know, everybody knows the crum, you know, have a WGR listener
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and show what the bulldog we're talking And they piqued my interests and I was
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just like, man, I had to call in. And I called them
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because they were talking about your expectations for the season coming up and what you're
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looking forward to and what you're kind of dreading, so to speak, and
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things like that. So I called up and I waited on hold them.
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My main point was that, like I, you know, DT knows this
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very well. I'm looking for just a super Bowl berth I want to get
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and the reason being is that I have had a real tough time Scott last
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year's was the first season that I had to make a concerted effort. A
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DT helped me with that, and we had Robin Munday on part of the
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fan base and helping me out with that, because what was happening was I
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was looking at the end result and the playoffs, and I was skipping over
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the entire season. Just just get me to the playoffs. Just give me
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to the playoffs. Don't give it, damn. And what happened was I
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was I was worried about the fact that I wasn't gonna enjoy the season.
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So last year I had to make a concerted effort to walk with my team,
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walk with the Bills all the way from Week one all the way to
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Week eighteen, including the bye week, because of the fact that I was
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singularly focused on just the end result, like how are we gonna get back
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to the AFC Title Game and how are we gonna represent the conference in the
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Super Bowl? And then I'll let the chips fall from it after that.
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And you know, it was just funny because I am very, very singular
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focused at this point in time. You already spoke about it, Scott.
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We've got the quarterback. We know we've got DT always calls him the Unicorn.
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He's must see TV. We know we've got a generational talent. I
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mean, it seems like we're hitting out head on that ceiling and I'm just
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like, what is going on? And I'm really really focused on trying to
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walk with the team in the journey because I understand I'm ana seize the ticket
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holder. I mean, I'm a fanatic. I know what it's like to
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go out to the tailgates and have a great time. But like, man,
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I am just I mean, I was crushed last year. DT will
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tell you I was crushed after we finally got mahomes in town and we didn't
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get it done. So, I mean, am I being too narrow minded?
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Am I just be like what is going on? Because I am?
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I am very I feel like there's no more moves on the chessboard. There's
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no more moves like this is this? Is it? Well? I mean
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there's two ends of the equation that are I hate bringing them both up because
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it puts you right back in the middle. I mean, I'm a one
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end of you know, enjoy the ride. We were in the drought.
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Now we have our franchise quarterback and Josh Allen and this team of consistent wins,
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and we're in the hunt and it's it's always a competitive situation and enjoy
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that part of it. But then on the other side, you know,
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we talked about all these dudes we just had to release and you know with
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the old and price and that's the first half of Josh Allen's career. We
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talked about the two phases, right, the seven years we want him probably
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at least fourteen with the way he plays. Seven years in that's halfway there,
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and we're kind of, you know, in that position and now so
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it's it's tough to enjoy the ride. But then on the other side,
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like all right, well, how long we got to enjoy the ride?
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Like before it's you know, before one seven's gone and we don't have a
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shot at this anymore. And you know, you look back at this team's
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kind of in the situation with you know, let's say the Patriots are the
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New Age Chiefs, right, and then those teams like the Steelers and the
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Broncos when Peyton Mannon got there, and the Colts when Peyton Manning was on
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there. You know, on that first time of those teams of like the
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Bills. Comparatively, they were right there and they couldn't get over and couldn't
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get over. Eventually they all did, which kind of gives me some hope
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that hopefully that the Bills can do the same thing. But you look both
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directions, and of course we want to enjoy it and hang out and we
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like being in the conversation, but it also puts the expectation of, well,
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then what are we happy with? You know, because nobody's happy walking
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out of that visual roun over walking back to the car rob and nobody's happy
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with that right. Well, it's a back and forth of how much time
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do we have left? But we still have to enjoy it. But in
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the past, with this talent have done it, so you hope it happens.
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And so it just brings me right back to the middle again and we're
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not getting anywhere Scott to speak to it. Man, I feel like that.
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I'm not a horror movie fan. I see those conversials for that new
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Omen movie coming out, and I'm like, man, I am worried that
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thirteen seconds could have been the best shot, and that scares the hell out
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of me. Man, It scares me, Man, it scares me.
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Yeah, I'm being honest, man, it does because a lot a lot
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of people think that that was the year that we should have won it because
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we would have played a home game in the AFC Championship game, it would
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have been versus the Rams and the super Bowl, and those are games that
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we should have won. I personally believe I may be a bias Bills fan.
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I think the last four years we could have done in the super Bowl
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and won at all. But I love that you're finally starting to slow down,
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rob and taking one game at a time. We stress that on our
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show because you know what. Unfortunately, taking one game at a time and
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follow when to play off, it's gonna feel a little more heartbroken at the
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end of the season because you feel like you invested more time. But it
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makes these shows that we do a lot more fun too, because you've taken
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the time to invest yourself in each game, and you've studied it and learned
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it and knows what's happening and you take it all in. So it makes
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these shows a lot more fun. But dump Truck, you're right. I
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mean, we'd hate to say we're on the second half of Josh All.
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We should have wanted to at least been there three times in the first seven
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years he's been here. What's going to happen next? But I think Bean's
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got the answer, and I think he's showing us exactly how to do that.
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We're going to get younger. We're going to get younger, unfortunately,
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but okay, yeah, it's needed. I mean, we talked about that
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after the start season, you know, season four. We're talking about how
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some of those moves were necessary for sure to get younger, and in some
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of those positions, you know, you just have to kind of rip the
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band aid off and just go just go get it, you know what I
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mean. So I'm in favor of that. You know, I just want
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to make sure that I'm not tripping and you know, joining us now,
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just as the fan base continues to build, you know, speak to it,
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you know, you know, because listen, it's important that we keep
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everything in focused, but Justice General always has something to add to it.
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And I want to know am I tripping because I just I just want to
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know if I'm tripping. I mean, talk to us. You can check
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them out at JA seventeen MVP. How at the just I mean, how
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have the crew come on, man, talk to me. I'm sorry.
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I really just came in to support my guys. You know, I didn't
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throw me on here, But I mean I've been listening, and you know,
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I I agree where you know, I'm kind of the same way in
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the sense of as where before I'm talking about sixteen and seventeen and O super
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Bowl or blah blah blah. You know, I kind of tempered those expectations
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just just a little bit, just because you know, it's a it's a
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process in the NFL. You know, it's a lot harder to win a
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super Bowl than people want to admit. And good is we have a team
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where it's kind of a weird spot to be in, you know, where
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we're kind of like, who has put forth a better return on investment with
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less reward than Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. You know what I mean
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return on investment in terms of awards, because Josh Allen is a should be
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three time MVP. The Buffalo Bills are should be three time Super Bowl champion.
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That's due to their own fault though, you know what I mean.
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But in terms of awards, championships, et cetera. And not only that,
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but just the perception that the Buffalo Bills have outside of Vegas. The
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Bills aren't very well liked by like most national pundits or whatever the case may
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be, Vegas really likes the Bills. Vegas is like, those guys are
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good, but outside of that, everybody kind of wants to downplay them,
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even though they're the second most the second most winning team, only second to
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a literal dynasty that is technically the best dynasty in the five year period we've
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ever seen. So if you're the second best team compared to that team,
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then I mean, you're not doing too bad. But let everybody else tell
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it. The windows closed and the Bills, you know, weren't able to
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win anything, and just all these negative things. People really look at it
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from a terrible perspective. But you know, nonetheless, I do think that
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the Bills will go undefeated and win a super See what I have to deal
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with, I don't know. You're you get invited to the Hutches or the
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chop House or the John Carlos, the nice You get invited to the dinner,
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but then you get there and they tell you can only order chicken fingers,
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right, And so that's what like, yeah, like how much more
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like how can cool can we be with getting invited to dinner before we order
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that fucking stick? You know. That's that's what we gotta That's what we
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gotta get to. Yeah, it's funny because the seasons stack on top of
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each other. And I think that that's one of the problems that I've had
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with staying focused on, you know, and going through the process and the
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journey Scott, is the fact that they stack on top. So every time
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there's a missed opportunity that I'm thinking about, man was that it? And
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Man was that it? And then the next year, man was that it?
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And you know, and that's what the four super Bowls will do to
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you, you know. And I mean I'm an I'm the product of it,
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so, you know, being the nineties baby like that was just that
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was my reality growing up, was you know, what are the bills stand
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for? And every barbershop I win in, boy, I love losing Super
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Bowls and then I got to deal with hearing shit from everybody in the barbershop,
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you know. So that's how I grew up. So I think it's
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almost innate to carry some of those those wounds and those scars and different things
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like that. So I'm not trying to be pessimistic. I'm not trying to
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have that type of thought process, but I am trying to make sure that
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I don't set myself up for to be disappointed, because boy, at the
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end of last season, I was I was drained. I mean we literally
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ended season three and the name of the episode was exhausted and exactly exactly how
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I felt. So I mean I was just I was. I was I
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was. To be honest, I was spent. And I hope that everybody
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kind of understands where I'm coming from because I'm not trying to be a Debbie
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Downer, but I definitely I'm looking for it. I crave that opportunity.
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Like you talked about, Scott, that the city, I mean the city
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might burn for days if we get you know, I'm talking about feeding the
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pit. I couldn't imagine the Bills win the Super Bowl. I mean,
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it brings chills to my to my face every time, and it's gonna feel
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like that when it does happen. M h. The Bills fans deserve it
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the most, and you hate to say that we did go through all that,
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we went. We're the only ones that made the four that made for
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its Super bowls in a row. I think we're the only one that had
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eighteen year drought without making the playoffs. We've gone through so much dramatic stuff
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that when it finally does happen, there may be even Miami fans, it's
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like, okay, they can have it, you know what I mean,
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that's how bad it is. Yes, yes, yeah, it'll be something
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special. It would be something special for sure. Now switching gears as we
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transitioned. You know, the draft is right around the corner next month,
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and everybody is excited about looking at the prospec different things like that. I
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wanted to get you guys in a mode and put your brand and bean hats
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on right now and kind of, you know, see what you can do
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and let me know what you're thinking. You know, what's the perfect scenario
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DT for next month's draft. The bills are at twenty eight. I know
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that there's a lot of talk about wide receiver. I'm on the wide receiver
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train for sure, one hundred percent, shoot you, but I do understand
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that there's a possibility that it could be a different position. And I'm starting
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to understand that, you know, there might be an opportunity where there's just
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something that Brandon Bean can't pass up in respects to his blessed player available what
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he sees on his board. We don't get a chance to see the board.
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So because of that, we always have to speculate leading up to the
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draft and then obviously in the press conference afterwards, DT Scott, they'll tell
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you that all this guy was the you know, right on our board and
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we wanted them the entire time. And that's that's the speak that you have
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to do. And obviously it's part of the game. DT put your brand
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and Bean hat on. What is your perfect scenario? Is there a position
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that you're hoping to get most? Is it wide receiver? Is there?
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You know, is there something that you're looking at like, man, I
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want this, I want this bad? Yeah, well, I mean the
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wide receiver train is real. It has to be. It's you know,
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it's it's more than just you know, filling Dave Davis. It's as we
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talked about it in the last episode, it's a crucial move for a succession
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playing for Stefan Diggs. You know, It's it's not a we just need
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a wide receiver. We need a number one, you know, we need
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the next you know, six seven year number one wide receiver. Like you
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can't just get a guy that's gonna produce, Like you need the next superstar
21:27
you know, to be to pick. So with that mentality, it's like
21:32
you get your eyes on the top half of it, right, the guys
21:34
we probably don't, we probably can't touch the you know a dude says the
21:38
Harrisons, Milik neighbors those type of guys. But then you look at the
21:41
Sammy Watkins situations. You trade up huge, you go get Sammy Watkins,
21:45
and then you miss out on Mike Evans or Odell Beckham or you know whoever
21:49
else was in that draft. And that's like then you put it back and
21:55
back to my being perspective, Okay, we need that number one, we
21:57
need that next You can't just get receiver. You need the next number one
22:00
to succeed. Step on digs, Right, But it's tough for me to
22:04
go up more than three or four spots, yeah, for anything other than
22:10
a quarterback. And we're we're not doing that. We're not doing that,
22:12
no, obviously, So you know, sit So if I've talked to myself
22:18
back and then sitting sitting still at twenty eight and relying on this stick draft
22:23
class and you know, if some things fall, then get a grunt.
22:26
You've got the picks to get aggressive and move up. But I think we'd
22:30
be patient. We wait at twenty eight, and you know, get that,
22:33
get that still pool there. All these guys aren't gonna be gone by
22:36
twenty eight, so there's gonna be one of them left. And just hope
22:37
he's the next JJ Jamar Chase or whatever the case is, and and go
22:41
get them. I mean, but that that so that's why I'm that currently
22:45
and I want the shiny things. Then Sydney Watkins says, no, don't
22:48
do the shiny things, and then the class is deep. But the importance
22:53
it's not just we want a receiver. We need a number one to succee
22:57
step under Scott. You're you're Brandon Bean. I mean, what's the what's
23:03
the perfect scenario because I don't know the I mean, DT's right, the
23:07
wide receiver training is real, and I'm on it. I mean, I'm
23:10
on it. I mean I always joke on the show. I just actually
23:12
got off the phone with Brandon Bean and kind of discuss. Here's the thing
23:17
I would dt. I would agree with you one hundred percent, but I
23:21
did not expect being to trade up last year to get a tight end in
23:23
dunt Kinkaid. Okay, so is where my mind wants a wide receiver.
23:27
If someone like a Brian Thomas falls there, or if a Donesday falls back
23:32
there, of course I want those guys on there. They got size,
23:34
they can stretch the field, they can do the perimeter stuff like dig scan,
23:38
and they would be a number one for sure. They'd be someone that
23:41
could take over for Diggs when he left. But then every time I think
23:45
okay, they might go this way, they bring someone in, obviously a
23:48
thirty plus year old, because I'd like to get in the old people for
23:49
the one year. But it's like where where, Where's the next step?
23:53
And I feel that in order for this draft to be a success, Okay,
23:57
first round has to be a starter. Yeah, oh yeah, this
24:02
whole draft develop and retain we kind of I think Osiris Torrance is the only
24:07
guy that started from being drafted for in the Bean era other than while Josh
24:12
Yellen him to have the wait. So I want them to be able to
24:15
draft someone at twenty eight, that's actually going to be an immediate starter.
24:18
Okay, if someone like Verse from Florida State University is available at twenty four
24:22
twenty five, I wouldn't doubt if he traded up for an edge rusher.
24:26
Again, I hate to say it. I think those fans are tired of
24:27
seeing defensive lineman being taken. But that's a possibility. So yeah, you
24:33
could throw everything in the air now because of what Bean did last year.
24:34
Who thought they were going to get a tight end? I thought they were
24:37
And you're right about that because I put that in my notes that you know,
24:41
being he has he's he gets antsy. He even said he's on Pat
24:42
McAfee the other day. He's like, I get antsy, you know,
24:45
so sometimes so trade up. Now. I don't necessarily think that it was
24:48
he. He did that for Kincaid to begin with. I think that the
24:51
wide receiver run spooked him. So when the wide receiver run happens, he's
24:55
like, these guys are running out, Well, what's my next best option
24:56
is? You know this versonal guy from Utah that could catch everything and the
25:00
eighteen receptions against USC that type of thing. So I think that his plans
25:03
were probably altered because of the way that the draft goes, and we've seen
25:07
runs on certain positions happen. And I'm worried about the fact that not worried,
25:12
but I think that there's a chance that he could trade up because of
25:15
the fact that he will he'll get antsy, there'll be a position that he's
25:18
looking at, you know. Now, I don't necessarily think you're just talking
25:21
about, you know, bringing him more than thirty year old somethings. You
25:22
know, they bringing another Lashawn Williams today, another defensive tackle. They just
25:26
signed Austin Johnson the other day. So I understand that they've got some defensive
25:30
line help now, and they've got some rotational guys, you know, But
25:33
like there's a chance that they could be a defensive tackle that he likes a
25:36
lot. There could be a chance. You just spoke on it, like
25:37
Jared versus drops. You know, I don't know if he's gonna just sit
25:41
there and just let somebody else grab him. He might want to grab him.
25:44
I in a perfect world for me, I definitely want somebody like an
25:48
ad Mitchell. I want ad nine Mitchell, somebody somebody that's big, that's
25:52
fast, that's got that catch radius, all those different types of monikers that
25:56
you talk about, But I feel like receiver is the best bang for your
26:00
bucket. What I mean by that is those first round picks, Scott DT,
26:03
we get that fifth year option. How important is that on a position
26:07
like wide receiver. When you see that these guys are getting the bag the
26:10
way that they are now, like they are getting paid to have that cost
26:12
control for that fifth year. I think it's just such a big deal.
26:17
And I don't know many other positions that I'm willing to do that for outside
26:19
Obviously it's not quarterback, and then defensive end is all I can think of
26:23
a of another position that's even worthy of that when it comes to not a
26:26
safety, not a defensive tackle. To me, I want that fifth year
26:30
option for a guy just in case he blows up. It just gives me
26:33
more time to work with him in his reps. And now would be a
26:36
time. Now would be a time you did it with the receiver because the
26:38
prices of number one wide receivers are going up and it won't be long until
26:41
w wide receiver number two is making twenty plus million dollars yarious. So if
26:45
you were to get a five five year deal on a rookie. I think
26:48
Digs is out at twenty seven, so that would leave year four and then
26:52
the fifth year option to go after and keep your rookie that you signed this
26:56
year. So that would be smart, That would be smart. And now
27:00
and now you have Curtis Samuel in the ear of this rookie. We're we're
27:03
always talking about these veterans that are in the ear and teaching these guys or
27:07
trades. Yeah, they have two really good ones that they're in Buffalo that
27:10
can teach this new guy for sure. And I think the chance the chances
27:15
of wide receiver not working out has been diminishing over the years. Like these
27:21
these first round round receivers are coming in and producing. You know, like
27:25
last year that out of that whole run of receivers, Quinton Johnston was the
27:29
only one that really didn't work out. Everybody else, you know, Smith
27:32
and Ajeeba, Zay Flowers, all these dudes had, Jordan Addison, even,
27:36
all these dudes had really good rookie years and came in and started and
27:38
produced right away. And we're seeing that a lot more. I think with
27:44
these receivers and coming out, you know, back to the Jamar Chase and
27:47
the and the Justin Jefferson getting these guys. Yeah, you can find value
27:51
in later rounds, you know, sir, And there's the list goes on
27:55
and off, but the value can find in later rounds. But in this
27:57
first round talent pool over the last couple of years, it seems that they're
28:02
you're not really taking a chance. You get one of these big name dudes,
28:04
They're gonna come in and produce. Yeah, I mean that the definitely
28:08
hit rate is definitely going up. You're seeing it in different rounds all throughout
28:11
the draft. I mean, who pooking the cool? How many teams passed
28:15
on him? Now, obviously he fell to a good system and it was
28:17
perfect for him, but boy, I mean no, I didn't. I
28:18
didn't even know who he was until he started catching all those touchdowns and all
28:22
those those passes out there in LA. So it's definitely worth looking at for
28:26
sure. Now the free agency wrap up, as we continue to transition.
28:30
You know, what's your favorite external signing guys? I mean, is it?
28:33
Is it? Samuel? I mean I kind of left when I did
28:36
my notes because I don't really know if there's another there's not many other options.
28:40
Like I said, the bills again today signed Seawan Williams. They've got
28:44
Austin Johnson who is our friend, Dade Dakwan Jones's friend from college and out
28:48
there in Tennessee as well. They were teammates Mac Collins. I have to
28:52
admit didn't even know who he was until the bill sign him. Had to
28:55
look him up on Google and figure out his career. I mean, is
28:57
it is it just Samuel hands down? Is that kind of the external signing
29:02
that we're most impressed with? Because it is for me for sure. I
29:03
think that he's versatile. I think he does a lot of different things.
29:07
I'm outside slot. You know, he was a running back at Ohio State,
29:10
so I think that he offers a lot of different flexibilities. Are you
29:12
are you interested in that? Scott? Are you buying that? I mean
29:17
it seemed just, you know, we r up against the cap, so
29:18
there's not much external signings going on. But I like Samuel. I am
29:22
all for Samuel. I think it's an automatic upgrade over Gabe Davis. I
29:26
like Gave Davis. Samuel has a lot more, a lot more to offer.
29:29
I think as far as being able to be a running back and a
29:32
sneaky little gadget guy. And he got him three years for eight million dollars
29:37
a year up to ten million dollars a year. That's a still one of
29:37
the wide receiver number two. As I just said, that price is going
29:41
up. But my surprise and happy they got him. Guy is a guy
29:45
by the name of two Hill Casey Toohill. And I'm gonna tell you why
29:48
my best friend. My best friend is a Redskins or a Commander's fan.
29:52
Okay, so when I don't when the Bills game, I have two TVs.
29:56
So if the Commander's game is on, I'll watch. When they got
30:00
rid of sweat and young, Yes, he got opportunities. He was able
30:04
to get the quarterback over five times on forty percent of a snap. Right,
30:08
he still did. The guy has the six five, two hundred and
30:11
sixty pounds. He's got the same exact body frame that McDermott loves at that
30:15
defensive end here in Buffalo, and he's got a motor like you would not
30:19
believe. He reminds me of a more hyped up at Panessa. So really
30:22
that is a sneaky, sneaky good pick and he'll be someone that's fighting for
30:26
reps definitely this year. And you know, we do both predictions. I'm
30:32
going five plus sax easy for him this year, and it's gonna be some.
30:34
It's gonna be one of those not quite Floyd pickups, but a surprise
30:37
pickup. I really like that one. When I saw him come off the
30:40
board, Wow, he's killed us with the two who I didn't even know
30:44
who he was either, So look at that. I agree, I had
30:48
to look into it. But then those those stats definitely did impress me with
30:51
him. Obviously Samuel was great, but you know, I'm going on the
30:53
Austin Johnson train. You know, this guy comes in who you know my
30:57
obviously my connection with with with Dade and and Jones when I used to go
31:02
down to Nashville and you know and be with them, and he was his
31:04
roommate. He came in a year later, you know, from Penn State,
31:07
and it was a big deal because you know, his boy from Penn
31:10
State was coming in and they roomed together, nice little pathhouse downtown Nashville on
31:14
Broadway, and we go in and you know, we're having a good time
31:17
and and kind of the murmurs of like it was an awkward situation because Dade
31:22
was the third round pick, the starter in the defensive line, but Austin
31:25
Johnson coming in and getting some reps of like he might be taking your job,
31:30
Jones, you know, like you know, had some early flourishing and
31:36
then kind of bounced around somewhere to Kwan Goes starts every game last year,
31:40
you know, for the Chargers in a team that was you know, in
31:44
shambles and starts every game and is kind of the one mainstay of that team,
31:48
especially with Bosa in and out of the lineup and everything between the leader
31:51
and that defensive line coming in, Hopefully it's the same thing that that Jones
31:55
has coming into a new scenery with his guy, they can relate together and
31:59
really plug that middle up. I mean, I think he's, you know,
32:01
improvement from from Tim Settle and Jordan Phillips was was great for a lot
32:07
of other reasons, but I think actually on field play, I think he's
32:08
an upgrade from Settle, uh in Jordan Phillips. So I'm I'm excited for
32:14
him, excited for the reunion back with Jones. Uh. A little fact
32:17
about this I met is it was they weren't married at the time, but
32:22
now they are. And his wife used to play in the Lingerie Football League.
32:25
Oh religious she is. I mean, it's no joke, no joke.
32:31
I like highlight tape, like highlight tape Ray Lewis type sticks, So
32:37
you know, it ain't no soft family over there. I like that.
32:40
I like that. That's funny. That's good. Now, as we wrap
32:44
up with free agency, we see we see that again. You know,
32:46
the bills riped, the band aid off, Brandon Bean does a couple of
32:49
weeks back. You know, we we go through it and you know,
32:51
we say our goodbyes to a lot of guys. But one of the things
32:53
that's very important is that it's not always the guys from outside. You know,
32:57
free agency. Everybody gets all hyped up and it's free agency. Who's
33:00
the new siny toy. Sometimes you got to clean up stuff in your own
33:02
house, you know, a little bit of spring cleaning. And I like
33:05
the fact that the Kwan Jones comes back and aj Epanessa comes back on a
33:08
nice really costs friendly deal. You know, David Edwards, I guess it
33:12
is going to be you know, more important now bringing him back. Anybody
33:15
sticks out to you guys for what Brendan Bean did for resigning his own because
33:19
to me, it's hands down to Kwan Jones. I think that he elevated
33:22
the play of Ed Oliver last season. Scott. I think that he made
33:24
life easier for Ed, and I just I love the fact that that Brandon
33:29
being was able to get him to come back. I agree one hundred percent
33:31
bringing back those defensive linemen epiness included. Like you said, I'm not going
33:35
to go too much into it because you hit the nail on the head.
33:37
De Kwon Jones was a big part. We didn't have a Tech one defensive
33:39
tackle until they re signed him, and that's a big part of our offense.
33:44
That's a big part of our defense. That's a big part of Ed
33:45
Oliver's success is when Lotoullier was in, I said quite often because I don't
33:52
think Ed Oliver was quite there yet. The only reason Oliver was good is
33:54
because the Loutoullier took up the double teams and all that stuff. I'm so
33:59
glad Oliver's coming to own comed into his own and he's a player that we
34:01
thought he could be, but day Kwon Man, he makes it so much
34:06
easier for him, and those two combined together, it's very dangerous. It
34:08
sucks that he went out with that pectoral injury last year. But if he's
34:12
healthy, and I read that thirty plus year olds for defensive tackles is not
34:16
very old anymore, and then they can play a little bit longer because because
34:21
of the rotation and all that stuff. So that was an important signing and
34:24
it was a good signing. Yeah, I liked it a lot. I
34:28
liked it. What you got d t Taylor Taylor rat Man. I think
34:30
that's that's big for us. He came in and played good when he needed
34:34
to. Now without ployer, probably not hide. This dude's got to be
34:38
the guy back there. And you know, I know we uh the name
34:42
is baking from the chiefs. Mike Edwards, Mike Edwards. Yes, Mike
34:45
Edward's gonna come in and obviously start, but Rap's going to come in and
34:49
he's gonna have to be, you know, take that next step to be
34:52
that guy. Showed some flourishing and you know, I was happy we got
34:54
him back and somebody we could rely on back there. So I'm looking for
34:57
him to play big and fill those shoes. A player high to be the
35:00
younger version, and he learned from the best. Last year he saw him
35:04
both, he saw him operate, come in and and hit it hard running
35:07
and went back to the du Kwon Jones thing. I mean back you know,
35:10
when he was in Tennessee. I felt like the kind of the murmurs
35:14
of like retiring and like just getting as much money as possible, like doing
35:17
that what you should do right in the NFL and secure yourself, secure your
35:22
family. And then it's the vibes kind of changed since he's like a buffalo.
35:25
It's like, yo, let's rejuvenate, you know, let's get a
35:28
ring, like I'm here to play, like and and so like that that
35:30
makes me excited too about you know, somebody who's talking about retiring five six
35:36
years ago now is chomping at the bit to come back and play at thirty
35:38
two years old, you know. So so that that's kind of shows the
35:40
culture of this team and everything that's changing, but the rejuvenation of it.
35:45
It's not just the money anymore. They're here to win. They're here to
35:49
win ranks. So it's funny that you said that because that that circles back
35:52
to the you know, our first topic of conversation was what do you need
35:54
and that culture is a part of that equation for sure, Scott. And
35:58
it was funny because Mike Edward words when he signed, he's you know,
36:00
one of the first things he said was like, they just have a winning
36:02
culture. I like the way that they operate. He talked about the coaching
36:06
staff and just said that they sold him on the fact of the vision and
36:09
different things like that for the team. And like that's something to be said
36:13
because we we we all went through the drought. Well, we're all parched
36:15
and we've got nothing to drink, and we're out there in the desert and
36:17
nobody wants to come to Buffalo. Nobody even wants to sniff it. And
36:21
t O is a big deal just because of the fact that he's coming to
36:23
Buffalo. He chose us and Mario Williams. If we all remember the day
36:27
Mario signed, those days are over. We're now a destination. We're now
36:30
a place that people want to go to, like like DT said, to
36:34
try to get that ring. So I think that that is important for sure,
36:37
because it seems like whatever Brandon Bean is doing down there, and I,
36:39
you know, I've got my problems with Sean McDermott, and the crew
36:43
knows that Scott and I won't We won't have to get into it tonight.
36:45
But the one thing you cannot take away from is that the players do respect
36:49
them. They do like playing for him, and that that kind of showed
36:51
up even after that piece by you know, Tdy Dunn, who's just you
36:53
know, the players rallied around him and use it as a rally and cry,
36:58
and you can't take it from him. They like they like McDermott,
37:00
and they like being you could tell now you guys, I know you mentioned
37:04
rings just now, and that's the goal. And I just wanted to throw
37:07
this out there for the fans that are upset that Poyer and Hyde are gone.
37:12
You want to know the difference between Poyer, Hide and Rap and Mike
37:15
Edwards seven years of consistency, a couple of all pros. What do you
37:20
got? Mike Edwards and Taylor Rapp both have Super Bowl rings starting on Super
37:23
Bowl defenses. Yeah they do. Yeah, Mike Edwards has been on the
37:28
last two champions Yeah. He played for Tampa and then he went to k
37:31
C last year. So that is a good point. Now they'll be just
37:34
fine, okay, all right, listen. It's it's funny that you say
37:37
that, and and it'll be interesting. But the culture point, like I
37:40
said, I think it does matter. And they definitely have a team that
37:44
that people want to play for. So I'll tip the cap to them for
37:46
that. Now, before we transition begin to wrap up, I've got a
37:51
little trivia for you, Scott, since you came on and we appreciate you
37:53
coming on the show. Now you're the co host of the k Gun Report.
37:58
Correct, correct, a little trivia for you. Who is the k
38:00
gun named after Bruce? Sorry, Keith mckellor. He hit it on the
38:08
head. Look at that DT. I didn't even have to break out the
38:12
jersey as a as a as a hint. That's many people will think that
38:15
it was for Jim Kelly, but it is not. It's for Keith mckeller.
38:17
Yes, the versatal tight end who could run and block and catch and
38:22
do all that type of stuff. So there you go. I like that
38:23
a lot. He was right on it. That's exactly why Machelar's Pete Mitch
38:29
Lars was their tight end, their big block and tight end that could do
38:30
it all. On the Bill Buffalo Bill's Broughton McKellar and butch Roll actually came
38:35
in too a touchdown. Butch Roll McKellar, yeah, because he was ahead
38:37
of his time. He's one of these guys that we could use now,
38:40
like a kincaid. He was big, can block and he could catch the
38:44
ball and yeah, the k gun came. Yeah. I like that he
38:47
knew that detail. I always, I always feel like I'm on Twitter and
38:51
I'm always educating the younger fans because they get on my nerves sometimes in the
38:53
younger mafia, and I'm always you know, going back and forth with those
38:57
guys because they don't know what it was like. But but Scott, yeah,
39:00
he he knows the shit. So I like that a lot. Now
39:01
as we begin to transition and wrap up new rules. The league's just had
39:05
their league meetings and all that other type of stuff going on down there in
39:08
Orlando, and it was funny because a couple of major changes happened and come
39:12
out of it, and I wanted to get your guys takes on it.
39:15
DT. The kickoff is gonna be radical, it's going to be different.
39:19
They've stolen it from the XFL model, you know, and again it's for
39:22
reducing collisions. It's for making sure that these guys are not running down the
39:27
field fifteen miles an hour, seventeen miles an hour and banging into each other
39:30
like a car crash. I'm all for that. I'm all for making sure
39:34
that the kickoff stayed in the game. Listen, kickoffs were going to be
39:36
eliminated if they didn't come up with something. So I am happy that they're
39:38
keeping it in the game because I do think it's electrifying. You think about
39:42
Nahim Heinz that you know that wonderful two kickoff returns and what that meant for
39:46
us, and you're coming off with tomorrow Hamlin. You think about a guy
39:49
like Devin Hester, who has just been elected to the Hall of Fame.
39:52
So go ahead and get Steve Tasker in there now. It would be a
39:53
great time. I mean, what do you think, DT, The kickoff's
39:57
gonna look crazy week one, But I I am happy that they kept it
40:00
in the game. I am yeah, all shout out UFL kicking off this
40:04
weekend. Yeah, you know, that's fix that a little bit. You
40:10
know, tune into the the UFL. But it it's tough because, like
40:15
you said, the kickoff the returns will be gone. You know, if
40:20
nothing changed on this right and this is something that you know, it turned
40:22
into basically there wasn't returns anyway. It was that it was very very rare,
40:28
just kicking in the zero catch call it, yeah, exactly, call
40:30
it today, get out of there. So so they were basically gone anyway.
40:34
This is new. You don't want to take away from the crest and
40:37
the beauty of the game, but you have to be progressive and you know,
40:42
and the reality of it is, kids aren't playing football like like they
40:45
used to write. So probably, you know, twenty thirty forty years from
40:49
now, you're going to see a huge decline just in football in general.
40:52
So we got to start taking steps to make it safer, to get to
40:54
get you know, interest back in it and everything like that for the longevity
40:58
of the game itself. So I do support it's just a little gimmicky looking.
41:01
You know, it's these guys down the field. It is going to
41:05
result in more returns because if you if it's kicking in the end zone,
41:08
it goes to the thirty correct correct So if it rolls into the end zone,
41:14
it's a it's a regular twenty or you you know, or you can
41:16
return it, you know out. What makes me a little nervous, not
41:20
nervous, but like hopefully create some hype is with these lines straight up.
41:23
I mean, granted, teams are going to learn how to defend it,
41:27
but it's just so close. If you break through that line, you know,
41:30
it's it's a lot of open grass out there. So I'm sure teams
41:34
will be working on ways to defend it and whatnot, but it just seems
41:37
a lot easier to house call one than it used to be. What do
41:40
you think, Scott, we we're gonna see more returns. I'm pretty much
41:44
almost positive we're going to see some more. But it definitely it was it
41:46
was a shock to the system when I saw, you know, the XFL
41:50
and they do it. So what do you think about what are your thoughts
41:52
on that? Well, there's gonna be a lot more film study, Like
41:54
you said, dumb Truck, You're gonna find out the two or three guys
41:58
that are getting blocked every time, that are creating the holes, and they're
42:00
going to say fine number seventy six, seventy eight, and seventy nine and
42:02
run turns then when he gets the ball. But it is decreasing the collision.
42:07
And when we thought the NFL is trying to get away from kickoffs and
42:09
the injuries, it looks like the NFL is trying to make it so there's
42:13
more returns again with the rules that you explained just a second ago. Right.
42:15
But I'm kind of excited because we have a young special teams coach in
42:19
Smiley. He's a young guy. He's not setting his way, so I
42:21
think he can adjust accordingly. It's these older guys that we're going to find
42:24
out that are having problems with adjusting and colonies kickoff returns. The only thing
42:30
I don't like about it. I'm excited to see it. I want to
42:30
see how it plays out. The only thing I don't like about it now
42:34
is now that you have to tell the refs he's going an onside kick.
42:37
Yeah, so there's no there's no surprise and the surprise is gone. Yeah.
42:42
You think about that Super Bowl with the Colts and then you know they
42:44
come out of halftime. I think was it the coult that did it?
42:45
Was the same same Okay, yeah, Sean Payton and that. Yeah,
42:50
so that's that's the element of surprises gone. Now. I think that they
42:52
said that there was like two percent or three percent of the on sides last
42:55
year. We're actually recovered, so something something really low. So but yes,
43:00
I do appreciate what you talked about. There no way to trick anybody
43:02
anymore. You got a report just like reporting eligible Detroit. Found out how
43:07
shitting that could be if you get that wrong. Now, the hip drop
43:10
tackle, Scott, you know a little bit more about this than we do.
43:14
In respect to the fact that you had a chance last week, you
43:16
had on a former Bills wide receiver on the k Gun Report who hadn't a
43:21
chance to kind of give his thoughts on it. And it was interesting because
43:23
I listened to it and I didn't think about it the way that he explained
43:27
it because I've never played professional football. So he had kind of spoke on
43:30
it being almost kind of a dirty play, and he was happy for it.
43:34
Speak about the guests that you had on last week on your show,
43:36
because I liked his perspective. I hadn't thought about it that way. Yeah,
43:39
we had on the Kgun Report last week Brad Lamback, former Buffalo Bills
43:44
wide receiver. He played there for three years and he was actually drafted the
43:46
same year Mark Maddocks. There's another guy that's on our show, but his
43:49
perspective of it was as a wide receiver and he did lude that is more
43:54
of a dirty play, grabbing someone by the hips and then swinging and dropping
43:58
on their legs and taking them down that way. It's tough to call that,
44:01
guys, because if you ask ninety nine percent of the offensive players out
44:05
there, they hate they like the rule. You ask ninety nine percent of
44:08
the defensive players out there, they hate the rule. I'm leaning towards hating
44:13
the rule because as a defender, you're trying to make a tackle and trying
44:16
for the guy not to go forward after you tackle him. Correct, you
44:20
grab a guy by the hips like you're supposed to from the side, and
44:24
he's trying to go forward, what other option do you have than to to
44:28
try on to his legs, onto his legs. It's tough to call.
44:31
But if it's a change that they're going to make in the NFL, the
44:35
only thing that I hope is that it is called fairly and they're pretty consistent
44:39
with it. It's just another rule now that these NFL refs have to try
44:44
to figure out, is it going to be reviewable. I know a lot
44:47
of penalties aren't reviewable, but this one is the big one. It's going
44:51
to be an automatic fifteen yard penalty. I mean, I would like see,
44:54
I would like DT. I would like them to just find these guys
44:59
for it and then set the check, you know, send a fine in
45:00
the mail next week, and keep the game moving, because I'm worried,
45:04
like Scott's worried that that it's gonna fuck up a game like I and I
45:07
don't want that. I don't want a situation where I'm giving out a free
45:09
fifteen for something that's interpreted the wrong way like Scott said, or it looked
45:14
like it was, but it really wasn't. It's just another subjective call like
45:17
p I or yep, or or you can't go high, you can't go
45:21
low, where a you're gonna go? Yeah, I'm worried about that DT.
45:24
I'm hoping that it will be more of a you know, a fine
45:28
system where you'll you'll hear about it on your feed, you know, coming
45:30
up that next Tuesday, that they handed out a fine to a guy as
45:34
opposed to giving fifteen yards on Sunday. I just don't I don't want it.
45:37
To muck up the game. And that's what that's the most that thing
45:38
that I'm worried about, Well, that's the thing. I mean. Making
45:42
the game safer. Yes, change a game, no, you know,
45:45
like change an outcome of a game. No, on that, right,
45:47
And I think offense defense, everyone's on board with that. But the NFL,
45:52
it's it's almost laughable at this point, right, Safety is are number
45:55
one issue. All right, let's add another week to the season than the
45:59
number one. All right, let's make these dudes, let's Christmas. Let's
46:04
look at the end of the week. Safety is an issue. Let's do
46:06
this. So, yes, safety is an issue on paper to them,
46:08
but on the field, I don't think they're gonna let it affect the game.
46:12
I think it'll be similar to like what we see in these roughing the
46:15
passer type calls. Right, we've seen an increase and with what you can
46:19
do what you can't do with these dudes over the past couple of years.
46:22
But then when the game's on the line and it's going down the wire,
46:25
you're not seeing that as much. That's gonna be exactly the same as in
46:30
this situation. You're gonna see it to set a point in in situations where
46:34
it's not gonna create a different outcome of the game, you're gonna see it.
46:37
And then other than that, it's gonna be the fine on the chair.
46:39
You know, it's gonna be the perfect example of Dakwon Jones last year
46:44
is sack against Tua Tua in Buffalo on the fourth courn of there, just
46:47
broke to the line, beautiful like beautiful sack and I guess landed on them
46:52
or whatever and no flag, nothing. Then three days later out thirty grand
46:55
you know, So that's fine, find these dudes whenever you to do.
47:00
But the NFL isn't gonna is it gonna start ruining games because of this because
47:04
they know what type of reaction it's gonna get. So I'm not too you
47:07
know, I get the instant reaction of what the hell, But now I
47:10
don't think it's gonna You're gonna see it, but it's not gonna create different
47:15
outcomes this playoff game and Mahomes gets the call and after it was fourth and
47:19
twenty five automatic fifteen game win. No, it's crazy. That's what I'm
47:23
worried about, is I don't want it to actually affect the outcome of a
47:27
game or anything like that. I saw on Twitter, even like Cornelius the
47:30
Biscuit Bennett, he was like, you know, I was taught to bring
47:32
down the ball carrier by any means necessary other than grabbing his face mask.
47:37
And then Richard Sherman was on there concurring with him, and then some offensive
47:39
guys were mad and they were kind of going back and forth. It was
47:42
funny, just like you, like you talked about Scott. The offense they
47:45
more protection for them, so they're happy, and then the defense is definitely
47:47
like, what the hell's going on? What do we have to do?
47:51
You know, And it's funny because it's always been that back and forth.
47:52
And then somebody had showed me like a little highlight film of ray Lewis.
47:57
You know he's doing those gator roles, so you know, you might have
47:59
to just bring back the gator role and and a little bit more technique on
48:01
that because uh, you know he brought he brought dudes down with that tackle
48:06
for sure. You know he's wrapping them up and then a bunch of times
48:07
he's just twisting and you're not going anywhere down to the ground. So we'll
48:12
see how the players adjust the defense. I'm sure we'll find a way to
48:15
do so. Now there's another couple of rules, and just you know,
48:17
it's some some mundane stuff they traded that uh changed, excuse me, the
48:21
trade deadlines of the after week nine, which is right around you know exactly,
48:24
smack dab in the middle of the season. And then if you get
48:28
a challenge correct, you'll get a third one, which was good because before
48:30
it was you had to get to right. I don't like that anyway,
48:34
And I see you Scott with your with your reaction. Why can't it just
48:37
be like college football and they just review the egregious ship and then and we
48:42
move on with our lives. Like I don't understand why we have to even
48:45
throw challenges out, Like if if you want to say that you're doing it
48:47
to get the calls right, then just get them all right or you know
48:51
what I mean, or throw it all out, you know all together.
48:53
Why is this whole challenge system. It's annoying because what you're actually doing is
48:58
is slowing down the game. And then I've got to what the officials already
49:00
messed up on. They're doing it now in the NBA, and I can't
49:02
stand it. Either either get it all right or or just let somebody just
49:07
officiate the entire thing a sky judge. You got someone into booth, and
49:09
you got someone in New York. Okay. The last thing I want is
49:14
my head coach as a defensive coordinator having to listen why he's trying to call
49:17
defense to say what should I throw this flag or not? I think this
49:20
this rule, this whole flag thing is ridiculous. You got all these refs
49:23
on the field, you got someone in the booth. Yes, these guys
49:28
get paid enough money to review it right away and say, okay, official
49:30
time out, call it time out. It was not intentional grounding, yep
49:35
or something like that. The coaches shouldn't have to find someone else's mistake.
49:37
The refs are paid this much money to do a certain job. They have
49:40
enough eyes on it. They should be able to figure it out without anybody
49:44
having to throw out a red flag. Oh here to like. It just
49:46
angers me because the coaches that don't have offensive or defensive responsibilities, they can
49:52
do that, right. Mcdermot's got a call defense, right, Yeah,
49:55
you see Dad Campbell, he throwing that challenge tragger every game. Yes,
50:00
they're the ones that brought up the rule. Yeah exactly, so yeah,
50:04
no, I agree. I mean there is as much money as this lead
50:07
generates, like get the Sky, Judge get you know, just make it
50:10
happen instantaneously, and like college the college game just flows so easily DT.
50:16
I mean, they just they send it down. They stopped the game real
50:19
quick, and then they let them know what's going on, and then all
50:21
of a sudden we're back to football. And I just think that that's better
50:23
because all it and they do it in basketball and I love basketball, and
50:25
it's just I'm like, man, why we have to and we're reviewing all
50:30
the time. We got to make up for the rest mistake Like that doesn't
50:31
make any sense, and it just slows everything down. So all this money,
50:35
you might as well get it right. And I'll tell you what,
50:36
more commercial time is more money for the NFL, which makes he can't go
50:38
up, which makes week Yeah, and how many times during these reviews they
50:43
show the replay on TV and you know the answer after the first after the
50:46
first take of the replay, it's like okay, okay, caught it,
50:50
and then and then it's it's yeah, it just seems you know, definitely
50:57
almost ancient time that that you're having to do stuff like this. I guess
51:00
it creates a competitive nature to it, like you have to be prepared as
51:05
a coach, and no one won't for these But it's like, yeah,
51:09
that's that's why they're there, and that's why the guy in New York and
51:12
the guy in the booster, like, that's why the James Territor coming on
51:15
and telling everything his voice. And then they wait till the calls made and
51:19
then they justify it was made that way. Is that a fumble? Yes,
51:23
it was on the field, said it was. That's so true.
51:28
Yes, they say, it doesn't matter what they say because whatever, it's
51:30
a call on the field, that's it. Oh that's funny. As we
51:35
wrap up tonight, you know again we appreciate Scott read again from the k
51:39
Gun report over rebuff In and only joining us tonight. Tell everybody where they
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can, where they could find you when you guys are doing your shows,
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different things like that, because we really appreciate you. You take a time
51:50
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51:52
show. Rob. Thank you. It's it was a lot of fun.
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52:23
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52:27
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52:30
we want to hear your all voices. That's why we see the comments coming
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in and your questions are important because we love to answer them. It keeps
52:37
the show going and we do this because of you. Absolutely, thanks for
52:39
having me again. Absolutely, man, we appreciate it. We're definitely gonna
52:43
have you back on. Shout out to Trey White. You see him right
52:46
behind me, you know, just a classic. He was hands down my
52:51
favorite Buffalo Bill for many, many years. He exemplified everything that you're supposed
52:55
to like. My favorite thing about him, DT, and you would know
52:59
the because you're at the games too. My favorite thing about uh Trey White
53:04
was his energy during the timeouts. He would dance and that ship was the
53:08
funniest I mean I would I just it never got old. It was never
53:13
something that I thought that he was doing it to show a bow or show
53:15
up anybody. He was just it was just Trey being Trey and an all
53:20
over all pro. Really really excited for him to get a chance to continue
53:23
his career again. These these injuries again, that that luck thing, it
53:28
brings it full circle. I mean, you need talent, you need a
53:30
little bit of culture, and then you need some luck. I mean last
53:31
year we were just snake bitting with injuries and none like like Trey White.
53:36
Just to see him go down again with that injury was really really hard.
53:38
He was just getting back to rounding into form from that Thanksgiving Day injury a
53:44
couple of years ago in Motown. And you know, just from the Nickel
53:47
City crew to Trey White Man, the best of wishes and hope he stays
53:51
healthy out there. And Ellie with the Rams DT, I know you like
53:53
Trey White too, but man, I would just love seeing him dance on
53:55
the sideline. That shit would always get a smile, great energy. The
54:00
two seven one I remember was when I forget who even they were playing,
54:05
but a coaches play sheet flew the wind from the other team and he like
54:08
ran over and picked it up real quick, and no, yeah, yes,
54:12
yes, I saw that. I saw that. A great guy in
54:15
the community, a family man, fitt into the Buffalo mote great academy.
54:20
Yeah no, yes, yeah, but don't know, you know what the
54:23
future holds for him, and good for him. Got a nice little bag
54:27
eight mil, could have ten going in the next year and it's just a
54:29
one year deal too. So he goes in and comes back and becomes something
54:32
again who says we can't get right and being wouldn't Brandon Bean, wouldn't close
54:37
the doorscot He said, maybe we can get to you know, get him
54:39
back, you know that, different things like that. Now he was talking
54:42
about this offseason, But I mean, Trey White, what did he mean
54:45
to the cake gun report? Because he was He's one of the most enjoyable
54:46
Buffalo Bills I've seen in recent years. For sure. He was definitely.
54:50
He was my favorite Buffalo Bill for sure. Oh yeah, I mean support
54:54
because of the exact reasons that dumb truck just said that he was a family
54:58
guy, he belonged to the culture, he was in the community. Yeah.
55:00
Of course, with injury, you always root for the next guy.
55:04
You always root for the guy coming back and having success. And we were
55:07
just almost there when that Achilles went. But bust of luck ten mil potentially,
55:10
Yes, that's awesome for him one year. I'm just glad he's out
55:15
of the he's in the NFC and out of the AFC. Yeah, yeah,
55:19
yeah, Well if we can watch him and root for him and see
55:21
him become Trey White, like, we know it's going to be better for
55:23
us because we know we don't have to play him. Yeah. Absolutely,
55:27
I shout out to Trey White. We definitely loved him here and the crew
55:30
and definitely wish him the best of success. Well, listen, everybody,
55:34
the Sweet sixteen is getting ready to get started. We appreciate everybody that joined
55:37
in tonight and had a chance to join us on all the different platforms.
55:42
Again, Scott Reid from the k Gun Report, we appreciate you joining us
55:45
tonight. Man, salute. We appreciate you. We're going to continue to
55:47
build the base. You guys stole my hashtag. I love it. Continue
55:52
to spread it around. Man. I love that we're going to continue to
55:54
build the base. I think that's it's awesome because we've got a bunch of
55:58
great content creators out there and we just want to continue to just cross pollinate
56:01
and just support each other, be on different shows and show each other the
56:06
love. Man. Because it's all for the bills, ma Fan Manue,
56:07
it's all for the bills, but we love the bills, so it's all
56:09
good man. I appreciate it. Man. Hell yeah, thanks, thanks
56:13
again guys for having me on the show. Was a lot of fun.
56:15
Absolutely out there. Enjoy the Sweet sixteen, get your bets and if that's
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what you do, if that's your fancy, and enjoy enjoy some great basketball
56:22
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