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- 0:00Speaker 1: Showtime is here. No time to fear.
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- 0:15Speaker 1: Now it's Showtime.
- 0:29Speaker 4: All right.
- 0:30Speaker 5: It is a good week to be gay in the USA.
- 0:32Speaker 5: We got a new gay senator from New Hampshire and
- 0:34Speaker 5: the fascists that were in the ruling party have been
- 0:37Speaker 5: shown the door. It's going to talk this gay week
- 0:40Speaker 5: with Scott Jacobson with Around the World. But don't go anywhere.
- 0:49Speaker 5: I was singing a whatchamacallits song there. Uh, what is
- 0:53Speaker 5: that song? I've been around the world. Oh, it's come
- 0:57Speaker 5: on from the same people that did come on Barbie.
- 0:59Speaker 5: Let's go party. I forget what, anyway. Uh, all right.
- 1:03Speaker 5: It is this gay week. I am, well, well, uh,
- 1:07Speaker 5: the Barbie, I'm a Barbie girl or yeah, it's a
- 1:09Speaker 5: wonderful song. And their next single was called Around the World.
- 1:14Speaker 5: And they also did Cartoon Heroes, where they actually got
- 1:17Speaker 5: in trouble for their video because they used a whole
- 1:20Speaker 5: bunch of cartoon people that they weren't supposed to. But anyway.
- 1:23Speaker 4: Aqua.
- 1:24Speaker 5: Aqua, that's it. The voice you hear is Scott Jacobson.
- 1:27Speaker 5: He is in Ukraine. We are going to talk about
- 1:30Speaker 5: all things gay around the world. But before we do,
- 1:33Speaker 5: you know, we had a seismic shift here in the
- 1:35Speaker 5: United States when it comes to our politics this week.
- 1:37Speaker 5: It was a red wedding of sorts with MAGA on
- 1:40Speaker 5: the run. What a great song, MAGA on the run.
- 1:44Speaker 5: MAGA on the run and Republicans now distancing themselves from
- 1:49Speaker 5: the orange turd. My friend has come up with the
- 1:52Speaker 5: term conservaturds. And so will things change for LGBTQ people
- 1:59Speaker 5: in America? Let's hope so come January. But one of
- 2:02Speaker 5: the other issues that Democrats seem more sympathetic to, as
- 2:06Speaker 5: do many American people, is the war in Ukraine. We
- 2:09Speaker 5: do not want Ukrainians wiped out. We do not want
- 2:12Speaker 5: Vladimir Putin to win. Donald Trump changes his support like
- 2:17Speaker 5: he changes his diaper, however the wind blows. And so
- 2:21Speaker 5: I just wanted to ask you, over there in Ukraine,
- 2:26Speaker 5: are you too busy trying to survive and not get
- 2:34Speaker 5: hit by ballistic missiles to really pay attention to our politics?
- 2:37Speaker 5: Or are people encouraged that the Democrats are coming back
- 2:40Speaker 5: in power so maybe they'll get, uh-oh, I lost Scott
- 2:44Speaker 5: right when I was going to ask him an important question.
- 2:47Speaker 5: We'll get him back. Because I want to know if
- 2:50Speaker 5: over in Ukraine, if they're encouraged by the fact that
- 2:54Speaker 5: Democrats have taken power and that they support Ukraine more
- 3:01Speaker 5: than not. And so hopefully Zelensky will get the backing
- 3:06Speaker 5: that he needs and Donald Trump, his mood won't be
- 3:10Speaker 5: able to change every 20 seconds. And so we can
- 3:13Speaker 5: help the Ukrainians. So we're trying to get Scott back
- 3:16Speaker 5: in Ukraine to talk this gay week. That's going to
- 3:19Speaker 5: take a second probably. So as soon as he... There
- 3:22Speaker 5: he is. He's back. Sorry about that. You don't understand.
- 3:29Speaker 5: I have a heart arrhythmia and I've been having issues
- 3:32Speaker 5: and it makes my heart skip when you bail out
- 3:36Speaker 5: because I'm afraid you've been bombed.
- 3:42Speaker 4: To help you be calm, there were several either UAVs
- 3:45Speaker 4: or missiles blowing up not too long ago.
- 3:48Speaker 5: But they're all good now. Well, so what about that?
- 3:51Speaker 5: How is our politics? Are you guys over there a
- 3:55Speaker 5: little more encouraged that maybe there'll be more support?
- 4:03Speaker 4: Europe has footed the bill since 2025, since Mr. Trump
- 4:06Speaker 4: came into office. So what the winning of the House
- 4:09Speaker 4: and the Senate does is apply Olympic rules to the
- 4:13Speaker 4: extremes of MAGA and the GOP and the Trump administration.
- 4:18Speaker 4: So that kind of, it's a rebalancing. Because being such
- 4:21Speaker 4: a free society, the good and bad of human nature
- 4:23Speaker 4: really expresses itself in the United States. And so when
- 4:26Speaker 4: you get this more balanced situation, I just apply the
- 4:29Speaker 4: Olympic rules where remove the extremes on either end, and
- 4:33Speaker 4: then the centers can basically hash it out. And that's
- 4:37Speaker 4: better for everyone, generally. And with regards to the Ukrainian case,
- 4:42Speaker 4: they have more.
- 4:43Speaker 5: Do you worry that the sentiment over here is to
- 4:47Speaker 5: stop spending money on wars so we can have united
- 4:49Speaker 5: health care and all of this, or not united, I
- 4:51Speaker 5: mean universal health care and all of that? When you
- 4:55Speaker 5: hear all this talk of let's spending money on foreign wars,
- 4:58Speaker 5: I mean, Ukraine is a foreign war. They're mostly talking
- 5:00Speaker 5: about Iran and Israel. But at the same time, it
- 5:04Speaker 5: is a war that we're spending money on. Are you
- 5:06Speaker 5: worried that Democrats might try to heed their base and
- 5:11Speaker 5: not spend as much money on the war?
- 5:16Speaker 6: No.
- 5:17Speaker 4: So since 2025, as noted, the funding situation has changed.
- 5:20Speaker 5: So the money is really coming from Europe.
- 5:22Speaker 4: Humanitarian aid and military aid. Yes. Military aid and humanitarian aid. Now,
- 5:27Speaker 4: the American military companies, maybe Raytheon and et cetera, they
- 5:33Speaker 4: allow European bills to pay... for munitions and other supplies
- 5:38Speaker 4: for Ukraine, for Ukraine to buy it that way.
- 5:41Speaker 5: All right. We're going to talk more with Scott from
- 5:43Speaker 5: Kiev when we come back. Don't go anywhere. I am Carell,
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- 6:30Speaker 1: So on with the show. All right.
- 6:39Speaker 5: It appears that it actually is going to work for
- 6:42Speaker 5: a minute. So there we go. We're happy about that.
- 6:44Speaker 5: If you were on the show yesterday, you would have
- 6:46Speaker 5: had no audio because it came and went faster than
- 6:49Speaker 5: I can even imagine. than Donald Trump probably did with
- 6:52Speaker 5: Stormy Daniels. All right. What a thought. Well, we have
- 6:57Speaker 5: some big gay news out of the United States. In
- 7:01Speaker 5: New Hampshire, two days ago on November 3rd. By the way,
- 7:05Speaker 5: my birthday is Saturday, November 7th. But out of New
- 7:09Speaker 5: Hampshire on November 3rd, we have the first openly gay,
- 7:15Speaker 5: because you never know, But the first openly gay senator
- 7:20Speaker 5: from New Hampshire, and he was elected November 3rd. He
- 7:24Speaker 5: will be seated in January, and he will be the
- 7:26Speaker 5: first gay member of the Senate. And that is a
- 7:30Speaker 5: big deal to a lot of gays here in this country. Because,
- 7:34Speaker 5: you know, anytime we can get someone in, I believe so, yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
- 7:41Speaker 5: And the thing about that is the 100 most powerful
- 7:45Speaker 5: people in the country are the Senate. So we now
- 7:49Speaker 5: have one one-hundredth of a voice in the most powerful body,
- 7:54Speaker 5: which is the Senate. So that is a big piece
- 7:57Speaker 5: of gay news coming out of the United States. Other
- 8:01Speaker 5: gay and lesbian officials also won here in the U.S.
- 8:03Speaker 5: We had several. We had a governor. We had local
- 8:08Speaker 5: state legislatures. So there's more and more gay people in
- 8:11Speaker 5: politics now than almost ever before. And that's a great thing.
- 8:15Speaker 5: And one of them is now a senator. So that's
- 8:18Speaker 5: really cool out of New Hampshire. And while he's from
- 8:21Speaker 5: a very small state, his vote is equal to any
- 8:23Speaker 5: others in the body. There's 100 votes and they all
- 8:26Speaker 5: count for the same. Doesn't matter if it's California or
- 8:29Speaker 5: New Hampshire. So we're hoping that, you know, he'll champion.
- 8:33Speaker 5: I haven't really heard his platform, but We're hoping, as
- 8:37Speaker 5: a gay community, that he will help champion either legislation
- 8:40Speaker 5: that helps LGBTQ people or at least stops any legislation
- 8:44Speaker 5: that would harm LGBTQ people. Because I would very much
- 8:48Speaker 5: like politicians to take the Hippocratic Oath and say, first,
- 8:51Speaker 5: do no harm. So we'll see how that goes.
- 8:55Speaker 4: The hypocritical sorry.
- 8:56Speaker 5: Yeah exactly they they get it they got it mixed
- 8:59Speaker 5: up uh all right let's dive into this gay week
- 9:03Speaker 5: and you tell me you want to play roulette and
- 9:05Speaker 5: tell me where you want to start at which which
- 9:07Speaker 5: uh which story you want to begin with.
- 9:10Speaker 4: Wasn't respondents And they found that uncertainty is a major
- 9:27Speaker 4: influence on LGBTQ dating vis-a-vis Hinge. And so they found
- 9:33Speaker 4: uncertainty affected 76% of LGBTQ daters and 52% of heterosexual daters.
- 9:39Speaker 4: So a big trend, uncertainty is across the dating landscape there,
- 9:45Speaker 4: but it's maybe 40 to 50% higher with regards to
- 9:50Speaker 4: LGBTQ daters. while those LGBTQ respondents said it actually clarified
- 9:55Speaker 4: relationship preferences. So they were finding.
- 9:58Speaker 5: That we're- think we should be clear. When they're saying uncertainty,
- 10:02Speaker 5: they mean uncertainty about the world. Not just about dating,
- 10:08Speaker 5: but just uncertainty about the world in general. And that's
- 10:15Speaker 5: to a much higher degree than heterosexuals. So, you know,
- 10:19Speaker 5: that tells me what I said on my show on Tuesday,
- 10:24Speaker 5: which is, you know, as I age, it's lonely. It's
- 10:28Speaker 5: very lonely because, A, I lost a generation of friends
- 10:31Speaker 5: to AIDS. They can't be 60 right now because, you know,
- 10:35Speaker 5: they're gone. And So there's just not a lot of company.
- 10:41Speaker 5: And the world is an uncertain place. Like, look what
- 10:44Speaker 5: happened in this country. So Monday, being gay was one
- 10:48Speaker 5: step closer to being outlawed, and same-sex marriage was about
- 10:51Speaker 5: to be attacked, and trans people have horrible things happening. Tuesday,
- 10:55Speaker 5: seismic shift in politics, and come January, we may have
- 11:00Speaker 5: some allies, we may be protected, and we even get
- 11:02Speaker 5: a gay senator.
- 11:03Speaker 7: So.
- 11:04Speaker 5: I think the uncertainty gays and lesbians feel about the
- 11:07Speaker 5: world is warranted. And I do think it's higher in
- 11:12Speaker 5: the gay community than not because we live in fucking
- 11:15Speaker 5: different worlds. You know, straight people live in a completely
- 11:20Speaker 5: different world. It's a different world than gay people. And
- 11:27Speaker 5: I think that really plays into this. Straight people, heteronormative, cisgendered,
- 11:33Speaker 5: Their world is not one of rights that can be
- 11:36Speaker 5: taken away at the drop of a hat. Some politician
- 11:39Speaker 5: decides something and suddenly you're in their crosshairs. Someone needs
- 11:44Speaker 5: to get reelected and they know they can get votes
- 11:47Speaker 5: from homophobes so they go after the community. So every
- 11:51Speaker 5: single day, the ground beneath gay people actually shifts and
- 11:56Speaker 5: it doesn't below straight people, at least not as much.
- 12:00Speaker 5: And I fully believe, and this is not just in
- 12:02Speaker 5: the United States, this is globally. No matter where you are,
- 12:05Speaker 5: if you are gay, every day you wake up and
- 12:08Speaker 5: wonder what footing you're going to be on on that day.
- 12:11Speaker 5: you know, based on the whims of the media, politicians,
- 12:14Speaker 5: you know, everything else. Straight people don't wonder that. They
- 12:17Speaker 5: don't wake up and say, gee, is my marriage going
- 12:20Speaker 5: to be challenged today? Gee, is my transness going to be,
- 12:25Speaker 5: you know, discriminated against today? Am I going to be
- 12:28Speaker 5: thrown out of my job, thrown out of the military?
- 12:30Speaker 5: They don't wake up with those same fears. And that's
- 12:33Speaker 5: why I really believe there's much more uncertainty about the world,
- 12:36Speaker 5: 76 to 52% respectively for gays versus straights. And that's
- 12:41Speaker 5: because we live in two different worlds, and ours is
- 12:44Speaker 5: filled with earthquakes.
- 12:49Speaker 4: I'm reminded of late Paul Mooney's commentary about some African
- 12:53Speaker 4: Americans may talk big, but in his time and prior,
- 12:58Speaker 4: there were white lawmakers. They passed laws to back their opinions.
- 13:04Speaker 4: And it's a much more substantial thing when you can
- 13:07Speaker 4: pass laws as opposed to just talk big occasionally. And
- 13:11Speaker 4: I think it's the kind of thing you're getting at
- 13:13Speaker 4: in sort of the reverse direction. So there's a lot
- 13:16Speaker 4: of ways to analyze those type of findings outside of
- 13:19Speaker 4: the dating world and sort of the larger point of making.
- 13:22Speaker 5: Well, Queen Elizabeth said it best during her life when
- 13:28Speaker 5: she was looking at a room full of people discussing
- 13:30Speaker 5: climate change. And she said to a friend, these people
- 13:34Speaker 5: are a lot about talk and not a lot about do.
- 13:38Speaker 5: And she was right. People talk a good talk, but
- 13:41Speaker 5: then they often don't get down to business. Another interesting
- 13:45Speaker 5: statistic from that that I am proof of, gay and
- 13:50Speaker 5: lesbian queer daters are 33% more likely than straight daters
- 13:54Speaker 5: to say it matters that their friends like the person
- 13:57Speaker 5: that they're dating. 37% for trans people. And they're also
- 14:02Speaker 5: 20% more likely to want to check whether a potential
- 14:05Speaker 5: partner fits in their friend circle. I have brought first
- 14:10Speaker 5: dates to friend gatherings and everything because if they don't
- 14:15Speaker 5: gel with my group, they can't be with me. It's
- 14:18Speaker 5: just that simple. And part of the reason, as it
- 14:21Speaker 5: states in here, is we.
- 14:23Speaker 5: Gays and lesbians, we create family. We create our families.
- 14:27Speaker 5: We have chosen family. And we want to make sure
- 14:30Speaker 5: that these people are going to gel into that unit.
- 14:34Speaker 5: Because if they don't, then there's going to be problems,
- 14:38Speaker 5: and we would just rather not deal with it. Now,
- 14:40Speaker 5: you know, if it's someone that looks like the guy
- 14:42Speaker 5: from The Gilded Age, then, you know, all bets are off.
- 14:47Speaker 4: But.
- 14:49Speaker 5: It is very important to gays and lesbians that their
- 14:52Speaker 5: chosen family accept their date. And there's many gays and
- 14:56Speaker 5: lesbians that go out with their friends on a first date.
- 14:59Speaker 5: And people think that's weird. Why would you complicate it?
- 15:02Speaker 5: Why would you not be alone? And that's because if
- 15:05Speaker 5: you can't get along with my friends, you can't get
- 15:07Speaker 5: along with me. And that's very prevalent in the gay community.
- 15:15Speaker 4: That's rational decision making. Absolutely.
- 15:17Speaker 5: 86% said consistent communication from someone they're starting to date
- 15:21Speaker 5: makes them feel less anxious. I couldn't agree more. Ghosting
- 15:25Speaker 5: is not good. Also, I'm a communicator. And so if
- 15:30Speaker 5: you leave me after a date, you can bet I'm
- 15:33Speaker 5: texting you on your way home. You can bet I'm
- 15:35Speaker 5: going to text you the next morning and say, hey,
- 15:36Speaker 5: good morning. How was your evening? You know, that sort
- 15:39Speaker 5: of stuff. I communicate. And if a person can't communicate back,
- 15:43Speaker 5: that's a problem for me. Because it makes me feel
- 15:46Speaker 5: more secure and less anxious if they're apt to respond.
- 15:50Speaker 5: I'm not saying 75 texts a day. I'm just, you know,
- 15:55Speaker 5: within reason. And then PDAs early in the relationship also help.
- 16:00Speaker 5: 65% of gay daters feel more secure. And they are
- 16:05Speaker 5: 50% more likely than straight daters to hesitate to show
- 16:08Speaker 5: affection on the first date. I have experienced this. You
- 16:11Speaker 5: go out on the first date, you want to hold
- 16:13Speaker 5: hands or you want to touch at the table or
- 16:16Speaker 5: you want to maybe kiss goodnight, but you're hesitant, A,
- 16:20Speaker 5: because of society. You're still not used to people not
- 16:23Speaker 5: freaking out when you're in public, you know, touching each other.
- 16:27Speaker 5: And B, you're not sure how they're going to react.
- 16:29Speaker 5: Are they someone that's into, what if they're uncomfortable in public,
- 16:32Speaker 5: you know, with PDAs? Now, with me and Andrew, that
- 16:35Speaker 5: was never an issue. We would kiss. We'd do anything
- 16:37Speaker 5: wherever we were. Hell, I'd blow him at the post office. Actually,
- 16:40Speaker 5: I did blow him at the post office once. I did.
- 16:43Speaker 5: In the parking lot. He came with me naked, wrapped
- 16:47Speaker 5: in a blanket, because he was not feeling well. And
- 16:49Speaker 5: he always got horny when he didn't feel well. I
- 16:51Speaker 5: don't know why. But I came out after sending a package,
- 16:55Speaker 5: and there he was in the passenger seat with the
- 16:57Speaker 5: blanket open and... things were out of tension and I'm like,
- 17:01Speaker 5: what are you doing? And he goes, the question is,
- 17:03Speaker 5: what are you going to do? Well, I don't have
- 17:05Speaker 5: to be told twice. So, you know, down I went
- 17:08Speaker 5: and people parked next to us and we're just, yeah.
- 17:11Speaker 5: Post office.
- 17:12Speaker 4: I thought you said standing post.
- 17:14Speaker 5: No, post office. Yeah, no, it was, I have had
- 17:17Speaker 5: sex at a post office parking lot before. And that,
- 17:20Speaker 5: is that considered a PDA? Probably, I guess. I don't,
- 17:23Speaker 5: you know, I don't know. Anyway.
- 17:27Speaker 4: It's an affectionate form, yeah.
- 17:28Speaker 5: No, I'm good with it. I don't mind it. All right.
- 17:36Speaker 5: I really hope that there's audio on this segment, but
- 17:38Speaker 5: we'll see. We'll see. I really hope the stack segment
- 17:42Speaker 5: that I'm doing. I've had such audio problems with this thing.
- 17:47Speaker 5: I can't even tell you. You know, I just I
- 17:52Speaker 5: can't tell you. It's it's really, you know. It's not
- 17:58Speaker 5: a fun... Not a fun thing. But if there's no
- 18:02Speaker 5: audio on it, there's no audio on it. But there
- 18:04Speaker 5: might be. So we'll see. We'll just see. Okay. So,
- 18:10Speaker 5: in fact... Oh, I know why they're... Never mind. I'm
- 18:14Speaker 5: an idiot. I'll, you know... I'm an idiot. That's all
- 18:17Speaker 5: there is to that. Okay. So that's a good story.
- 18:21Speaker 5: That is a good story. And it speaks to.
- 18:25Speaker 5: How do I say this? Gay people go out of
- 18:29Speaker 5: their way to let straight people know that we're just
- 18:33Speaker 5: like them, okay? We're just like straight people. We're not
- 18:37Speaker 5: just like straight people, okay? We're not. And our dating
- 18:41Speaker 5: is different than their dating because we are different people
- 18:45Speaker 5: and we bring different things into that situation. So gay
- 18:50Speaker 5: dating and straight dating are different things. And I think
- 18:54Speaker 5: this article exemplifies that. It shows that based on the statistics.
- 18:58Speaker 5: We don't have the same issues. We don't have the
- 19:02Speaker 5: same confines. I mean, come on. If you're a gay
- 19:05Speaker 5: man and you go on a first date, you're sleeping together.
- 19:08Speaker 5: I know for straights, it's like the third date. Gay people,
- 19:11Speaker 5: it's the first date. Well, we're like, let's get this
- 19:17Speaker 5: out of the way and see if we're compatible. That's
- 19:20Speaker 5: what we are. That's what we do.
- 19:21Speaker 4: Splendid. is a lot like that for heterosexuals.
- 19:26Speaker 5: Well, they have to be quick there. It's cold. I mean,
- 19:35Speaker 5: and they want to keep warm. So, you know, on
- 19:37Speaker 5: the first date, your temperature could drop.
- 19:40Speaker 4: It does help.
- 19:42Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh yeah.
- 19:42Speaker 1: No.
- 19:43Speaker 5: Are you Icelandic? And are you, are you, when it
- 19:45Speaker 5: comes to dating, are you Icelandic? uh yes and no
- 19:53Speaker 5: I'm gonna take that as a yes.
- 19:54Speaker 4: Iceland I lived in Iceland for three weeks last year
- 19:59Speaker 4: three and a half weeks yeah how many dates did
- 20:02Speaker 4: you have that was a great time and.
- 20:05Speaker 5: I'm sure how many dates did you go on Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah,
- 20:13Speaker 5: no comment. All right. Another, well, I don't say it's
- 20:19Speaker 5: a good story. It's not. But another story. We lost
- 20:25Speaker 5: a truly great actor this last week. And, you know,
- 20:32Speaker 5: Captain Picard. Patrick Stewart. And, you know, he was gay, obviously.
- 20:40Speaker 5: And he treasured LGBTQ people. And I have to say,
- 20:45Speaker 5: as I speak, you know, I've been appointed to speak
- 20:48Speaker 5: for all the gays. We treasured him too. So we're
- 20:52Speaker 5: going to talk a little about Patrick Stewart and more
- 20:54Speaker 5: stories from around the world on this gay week with
- 20:57Speaker 5: Scott Jacobson in Ukraine when we come back. But He
- 20:59Speaker 5: was an incredible actor. He was a national treasure. I
- 21:04Speaker 5: loved the stuff that he did. A lot of stuff
- 21:06Speaker 5: with Sir Ian McKellen, like just off camera as well
- 21:09Speaker 5: as on. But they were best buddies and they were
- 21:11Speaker 5: the cutest little bromance. They weren't together, but they were
- 21:15Speaker 5: just the cutest little bromance in the world. Gave me
- 21:18Speaker 5: hope that I could be a little old gay man
- 21:19Speaker 5: and have another little old gay man friend.
- 21:21Speaker 3: Sort of thing, you know.
- 21:23Speaker 5: So we lost Patrick.
- 21:25Speaker 8: Circus, who is a gay icon in a way, 86
- 21:28Speaker 8: years old, and gay. And, you know, as far as
- 21:33Speaker 8: I know, I mean, I don't think I'm still in
- 21:34Speaker 8: the beans here, but he certainly didn't have a wife.
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- 21:53Speaker 5: You have to be proud with hatred. Hey everyone, it's Karel.
- 21:59Speaker 5: You know, Pride Month was rough this year. We had
- 22:02Speaker 5: a lot of hate heaped upon us from Trump, from MAGA,
- 22:05Speaker 5: and from other governments around the world. And if you
- 22:08Speaker 5: are a trans person, you are really going through a
- 22:11Speaker 5: particular type of hell right now. That's why when I
- 22:14Speaker 5: was thinking of my next single in June, I sat
- 22:17Speaker 5: down and I wrote, you have to be proud. You
- 22:20Speaker 5: have to be proud with anger so loud. Streaming everywhere.
- 22:25Speaker 5: Keep fighting. Keep singing. Keep dancing. We're going to win.
- 22:41Speaker 8: All right.
- 22:41Speaker 5: Color me gobsmacked and shocked. Patrick Stewart was heterosexual and
- 22:46Speaker 5: married to a woman. And that, you know, I have
- 22:51Speaker 5: spent most of my life thinking that man was gay.
- 22:55Speaker 5: So that's really interesting to me. But he is straight.
- 22:59Speaker 5: and married to a woman, jazz singer Sunny Ozel, who
- 23:03Speaker 5: he married in 2013. Many people, according to Chad GPT,
- 23:08Speaker 5: mistakenly believed he was gay because of A, his close
- 23:11Speaker 5: friendship with Ian McKellen, B, he has played many, many
- 23:15Speaker 5: prominent gay characters on screen, and he has been a
- 23:19Speaker 5: staunch LGBTQ advocate his entire life. vocal and longtime ally
- 23:24Speaker 5: to the gay community and has received multiple awards in
- 23:28Speaker 5: the LGBTQ community for his advocacy. Plus, he's kind of effeminate,
- 23:34Speaker 5: so I really just thought he was gay, but he's not.
- 23:38Speaker 5: What did you think? Did you think he was gay?
- 23:42Speaker 4: No, I knew he was part of an important sci-fi
- 23:48Speaker 4: representation of humanist philosophy. And so he was sort of
- 23:52Speaker 4: an icon within humanist philosophical life stance representations on screen.
- 23:59Speaker 4: In addition, with his sort of speaking out about his
- 24:01Speaker 4: own mother's domestic violence stuff, about his advocacy for LGBT,
- 24:05Speaker 4: his friendship with Serene McKellen, et cetera, he was living
- 24:09Speaker 4: out humanist philosophy. And for many, many years, he was
- 24:13Speaker 4: representing that in sort of an optimistic, futuristic vision in
- 24:20Speaker 4: Star Trek.
- 24:22Speaker 5: Well, I know that you can't see this, but neither
- 24:28Speaker 5: can my listeners. But here's a full-blown picture of Patrick
- 24:31Speaker 5: kissing Ian McKellen on the lips. So you could see
- 24:34Speaker 5: where I would get the impression. But you bring up
- 24:37Speaker 5: a great point. First of all, Star Trek. Star Trek
- 24:40Speaker 5: is very important to gay people. I know many gay
- 24:43Speaker 5: Star Trekkies. And one of the reasons is Star Trek
- 24:48Speaker 5: embraced ultimate diversity. I mean, frickin' aliens, hello. It had
- 24:53Speaker 5: the first, one of the first, on-screen, one of the
- 24:57Speaker 5: first same-sex, not same-sex, sorry, one of the first interracial
- 25:02Speaker 5: kisses was on the television show Star Trek. And certainly
- 25:08Speaker 5: the intense relationship between Kirk and Spock You know, I'm
- 25:15Speaker 5: not going to say they were gay for each other,
- 25:17Speaker 5: but honey, you know, so I guess in real life,
- 25:21Speaker 5: Leonard Nimoy actually couldn't stand him afterwards. But a lot
- 25:24Speaker 5: of people can't. And we lost Chekhov this last week
- 25:27Speaker 5: to the guy, the guy that played Chekhov. We lost
- 25:29Speaker 5: him when George Takai dies, who is gay. I will
- 25:34Speaker 5: be devastated. But Star Trek was very inclusive. It was
- 25:37Speaker 5: very progressive. And the same with X-Men. You know, if
- 25:42Speaker 5: you think about what X-Men is really about, you know,
- 25:45Speaker 5: X-Men is.
- 25:48Speaker 5: How do I say this? It's... it's about the odd
- 25:52Speaker 5: men out. You know what I mean? They're, they're mutants. They're,
- 25:56Speaker 5: and so gays can relate to finding power in being different. Uh,
- 26:01Speaker 5: and X-Men speaks to that, that we all have our
- 26:05Speaker 5: own superpower, even if we're different. Uh, and so, uh,
- 26:10Speaker 5: I can, he played, he played in a lot of
- 26:12Speaker 5: movies and a lot of TV shows that really resonate
- 26:15Speaker 5: with the gay community. and did so as a fierce
- 26:20Speaker 5: and staunch advocate. So we will miss him. We need
- 26:23Speaker 5: every advocate that we can get. And he's only 86.
- 26:25Speaker 5: And I say only because, you know, Barbara's 84, Cher's 82,
- 26:29Speaker 5: Diana Ross, they're all out touring and having a good time.
- 26:31Speaker 5: So it's sad that we lost him at 86. He
- 26:35Speaker 5: deserved to live to 100 like Dolly Parton did and
- 26:38Speaker 5: a lot of other people and Mike Trump doesn't. But
- 26:41Speaker 5: we lost him. But he was a big ally and
- 26:43Speaker 5: he was a great friend to the gays. All right.
- 26:47Speaker 5: You pick the story next.
- 26:51Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, only final comment. Life is very short
- 26:55Speaker 4: and it's, it's too short to be a bad person.
- 26:59Speaker 4: So let's go with.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Wow.
- 27:00Speaker 5: I wish like two thirds of the world. I wish
- 27:03Speaker 5: that two thirds of the world would see that. Yes.
- 27:06Speaker 5: Life is too short to be a bad person. So stop.
- 27:09Speaker 4: You know, it's just, I mean, yeah, you know, and,
- 27:13Speaker 4: and also just apart from all of this, a tremendously
- 27:16Speaker 4: good actor.
- 27:17Speaker 5: Oh my God. My God. I mean, to go from,
- 27:22Speaker 5: you know, Picard or Xavier to full, just full Shakespeare,
- 27:29Speaker 5: you know, full, just the bard, uh, in the same breath,
- 27:34Speaker 5: he could do it. He could, you know, he consummate actor. Absolutely.
- 27:42Speaker 4: Now, uh, to local matters, uh, regionally for me.
- 27:46Speaker 5: Local to whom? Meduza.
- 27:51Speaker 4: Moi. So five cases have been documented by MediaZona in
- 27:56Speaker 4: which Russian authorities penalize people for LGBTQ related material despite
- 28:01Speaker 4: their hostile or satirical intentions. So even if they're anti-LGBT,
- 28:09Speaker 4: representing LGBT is the criminal offense. Or the offense?
- 28:14Speaker 5: Well, I would just.
- 28:15Speaker 4: Rainbow imagery?
- 28:17Speaker 5: I would just like to say in Russia's defense, if
- 28:19Speaker 5: you're going to be a bigot, be a bigot to everybody.
- 28:22Speaker 5: You know, if you're going to ban pro-gay propaganda, then
- 28:26Speaker 5: ban the anti-gay propaganda too. If you're going to be
- 28:29Speaker 5: an asshole, be an asshole to everybody. Don't just, you know.
- 28:34Speaker 5: I guess that's the lesson. I guess that's the lesson.
- 28:37Speaker 5: If you're going to be an asshole, be an asshole
- 28:39Speaker 5: to everybody.
- 28:39Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the lesson. That's the story. It's just expanded restrictions.
- 28:44Speaker 4: Next story.
- 28:44Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 28:45Speaker 5: You know, the thing about Russia and their anti-gay stance
- 28:49Speaker 5: is the same as every other government, which is Russia
- 28:53Speaker 5: acts like there are no gay people there and or
- 28:57Speaker 5: Chechnya or other countries. And of course, that's just not true.
- 29:01Speaker 5: And young people, young Russians, they're already past that. The
- 29:05Speaker 5: young Russians love gay people. They party with gay people.
- 29:09Speaker 5: They don't want to harm gay people. you know, younger Russians,
- 29:12Speaker 5: unless they're hardcore, you know, Kremlin people, but younger Russians.
- 29:18Speaker 5: And my friend Thea Austin has performed in Russia and
- 29:21Speaker 5: she's a gay icon. And she performed at a club
- 29:24Speaker 5: where a lot of people were gay. Go ahead. Yes.
- 29:29Speaker 4: You could say the older generations and the younger generations
- 29:32Speaker 4: are having.
- 29:33Speaker 5: A heated rivalry. Oh, well, yes, they are. Well, look
- 29:37Speaker 5: at that. You know, you got Connor Story and Hudson
- 29:41Speaker 5: talking about how they love to cuddle, that they're platonic,
- 29:45Speaker 5: they don't screw each other, but yet they are affectionate
- 29:49Speaker 5: and love each other because that's how young people are now.
- 29:53Speaker 5: You know, it's like if a young guy that's straight
- 29:56Speaker 5: wants to hug his best gay friend or cuddle with his...
- 29:59Speaker 5: best straight friend or whatever, they're going to do it.
- 30:02Speaker 5: And they don't put a label on it. They just do.
- 30:04Speaker 4: You know what? It's better.
- 30:07Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 30:07Speaker 5: It's better.
- 30:08Speaker 4: Yes.
- 30:09Speaker 5: And healthier. I agree. One of the things I said yesterday,
- 30:13Speaker 5: a few days ago on my show on Wednesday, the
- 30:16Speaker 5: day after, was that it's time to let young people... Well,
- 30:22Speaker 5: we'll go to break, but it's time to let young people....
- 30:27Speaker 6: It's broadcasting from a completely different point of view.
- 30:31Speaker 1: Yours.
- 30:33Speaker 7: Listen daily to the Corelcast on your favorite streaming service.
- 30:44Speaker 7: You're listening to the Corelcast.
- 30:51Speaker 6: It's broadcasting from a completely different point of view.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Yours.
- 30:57Speaker 7: Listen daily to the Corelcast on your favorite streaming service.
- 31:08Speaker 7: You're listening to the Corelcast. Driving you home or driving
- 31:13Speaker 7: you crazy.
- 31:15Speaker 5: Stream I Dance Because on all services. The song is very,
- 31:18Speaker 5: very personal to me. And the video now is very
- 31:22Speaker 5: touching to me. I cried the first time. Well, I
- 31:24Speaker 5: cry all the time. But I cried the first time
- 31:26Speaker 5: I saw it. We all have somebody, whether it's someone
- 31:29Speaker 5: that's passed from AIDS or some other thing. We all
- 31:32Speaker 5: have people that we danced with. And that's why we dance.
- 31:35Speaker 5: Stream I Dance Because on all services. All right, we
- 31:44Speaker 5: are back. I was saying, you know, young people's attitudes
- 31:48Speaker 5: about LGBTQ people, I don't want to totally overgeneralize. There
- 31:55Speaker 5: are many who are against gay people and against trans
- 31:57Speaker 5: people and all that. But I would say two-thirds of
- 32:01Speaker 5: young people, people under 30, people under 35, they've lived
- 32:05Speaker 5: their whole lives hearing all this bullshit from old people,
- 32:09Speaker 5: and they're just not having it. They're just not having it.
- 32:11Speaker 5: They're like, you know what?
- 32:12Speaker 8: No.
- 32:13Speaker 5: You know, we're going to just live and let live
- 32:15Speaker 5: sort of thing. And there's even accounts I follow on Instagram.
- 32:18Speaker 5: One is called Cult Wives because the guy is so
- 32:22Speaker 5: fucking cute. Oh, my God. He's got me written all
- 32:25Speaker 5: over him. But he has a wife. But he also does.
- 32:29Speaker 5: They do three ways with guys. And he will actually
- 32:34Speaker 5: partner up with the guy for OnlyFans and just do
- 32:36Speaker 5: him and a guy. And everyone loves. under the comments,
- 32:40Speaker 5: they're so confused. They're like, are you gay or are
- 32:43Speaker 5: you not gay? Are you bi or what are you?
- 32:45Speaker 5: And he's like, first of all, I'm making 150K a month.
- 32:48Speaker 5: That's the first thing. Oh yeah, 150K a month from
- 32:54Speaker 5: just having sex with your wife and another guy. I'd
- 32:58Speaker 5: marry a woman if it got me 150K a month.
- 33:02Speaker 5: But more importantly, he stresses the attitude is I'm not
- 33:07Speaker 5: going to label what I am I enjoy my wife.
- 33:11Speaker 5: I enjoy these guys. I enjoy both. Will I always
- 33:15Speaker 5: do it? I don't know, but I'm not going to
- 33:17Speaker 5: label it. And I think a lot of young people
- 33:20Speaker 5: are tired of labels. And that's why I think there's
- 33:23Speaker 5: a little backlash against the alphabet, against LGBTQIA, but only
- 33:27Speaker 5: because young people are just tired of labels. They just
- 33:30Speaker 5: want to be. And whatever their sexuality is, it is,
- 33:33Speaker 5: you know?
- 33:34Speaker 4: That's a very astute assessment. Yeah, I think it's, People,
- 33:38Speaker 4: they get knocked for not wanting to have a label,
- 33:41Speaker 4: but I think they're more going on actual character, which
- 33:45Speaker 4: has a qualitative assessment value to it. And so they're
- 33:48Speaker 4: just more into authenticity as a value. And probably they
- 33:52Speaker 4: could detect a little more readily than older generations that
- 33:56Speaker 4: had culture more enforced on them. Sincerity. I think it's
- 34:00Speaker 4: a very good point.
- 34:01Speaker 5: Yeah, and they don't want homophobia forced on them. They
- 34:04Speaker 5: don't want to be told they have to hate gays
- 34:07Speaker 5: because baby boomers do or because Gen X does. They
- 34:10Speaker 5: want their own set of rules, and I say I'm
- 34:12Speaker 5: fine with it. As I age, I'll be 64 Saturday.
- 34:16Speaker 5: As I age, I'm looking now going, you know what?
- 34:18Speaker 5: It is a young person's game.
- 34:20Speaker 8: It is.
- 34:20Speaker 5: It's a young person's game. Let's let them step in
- 34:23Speaker 5: and step up. because I kind of like their ideals
- 34:27Speaker 5: and their values. And I know they get slighted a
- 34:28Speaker 5: lot for not having any. But when it comes to
- 34:31Speaker 5: social mores, I'm liking what some of the younger people
- 34:36Speaker 5: are saying about LGBTQIA. I even like when they say,
- 34:39Speaker 5: I don't like the labels because to me, I'm just
- 34:42Speaker 5: judging people on who they are, not their letter. Or
- 34:45Speaker 5: I'm having sex with who I want to have sex with.
- 34:47Speaker 5: If I want to have sex with a guy, I'll
- 34:49Speaker 5: have it. If I want to have sex with a girl,
- 34:51Speaker 5: I'll have it. And I don't want to label because
- 34:53Speaker 5: of that. And I respect that. I fought for the
- 34:58Speaker 5: right for them to have a label and be proud
- 35:00Speaker 5: about it. But if they don't want a label, that's
- 35:03Speaker 5: equally a choice. And I'm all for it. I truly am.
- 35:08Speaker 5: All right. Where are we going?
- 35:09Speaker 4: Are we going to Venezuela? Yeah, I think a lot
- 35:10Speaker 4: of the economics of social life here, I think it's
- 35:12Speaker 4: just trade-offs. If you have a label... It's a shortcut
- 35:16Speaker 4: for social life. But that's their own. They're inheriting this.
- 35:20Speaker 4: These are their lives that they're going to be inheriting
- 35:23Speaker 4: and developing and building for the next iteration of culture.
- 35:27Speaker 7: Right.
- 35:27Speaker 5: And I hope that it sticks. I hope that their
- 35:31Speaker 5: culture in 30 years' time, when they're my age, I
- 35:36Speaker 5: hope culture has gotten to where letters aren't important, where
- 35:38Speaker 5: we treat everybody the same no matter. So it doesn't
- 35:40Speaker 5: matter how we identify because We don't need to segregate
- 35:44Speaker 5: ourselves out by sexuality. That is my hope. Meanwhile, in Caracas,
- 35:49Speaker 5: they are separating themselves out based on sexuality. The LGBTQIA
- 35:54Speaker 5: plus community there has marched in Caracas demanding recognition of rights.
- 35:59Speaker 5: And I think that's great because that's like a stonewall.
- 36:02Speaker 5: That's how you get things. Venezuela, of course, is not
- 36:05Speaker 5: a hotbed of LGBTQ rights, and they are trying to
- 36:09Speaker 5: change that. and get more rights because they say Venezuelans
- 36:14Speaker 5: are of a diverse sexual orientation and that it is
- 36:19Speaker 5: healthier for them to have the rights and to be
- 36:22Speaker 5: able to live openly. So Venezuela, which is undergoing a
- 36:26Speaker 5: lot of social change right now, One of the social
- 36:28Speaker 5: changes they're undergoing is trying to push for more rights,
- 36:31Speaker 5: and we'll talk about that story and others from around
- 36:33Speaker 5: the world. On this day, we've got Scott Jacobson of
- 36:36Speaker 5: the Good Man Project in Ukraine. When we come back,
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- 36:57Speaker 2: You have to be proud with hatred.
- 37:02Speaker 5: Hey everyone, it's Carell and I want to invite you
- 37:04Speaker 5: to stream my new single, You Have to Be Proud
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- 37:33Speaker 1: Showtime is here. No time to fear.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Corral is so near because Showtime is here.
- 37:40Speaker 3: So on with the show. Let's give it a go.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Corral is the one that you need to know.
- 37:49Speaker 5: And Venezuela basically is the United States in the 90s.
- 37:52Speaker 5: Gay men are not allowed to donate blood in public hospitals.
- 37:54Speaker 5: We could not in the 90s. And we still can't.
- 37:57Speaker 5: They say we can, but we can't. Because the questionnaire
- 38:00Speaker 5: they ask basically excludes you. Have you had sex, like,
- 38:04Speaker 5: in the last five years? Have you, you know, are
- 38:06Speaker 5: you on PrEP? Or all these other things that would
- 38:09Speaker 5: then exclude you. So the Red Cross says that gay
- 38:12Speaker 5: people can donate. Gay men, because there was a prohibition
- 38:15Speaker 5: on it, which was useless and stupid. because all blood
- 38:18Speaker 5: is tested for HIV. But it's not true. We can't
- 38:22Speaker 5: still donate blood. We have different hoops to jump through,
- 38:25Speaker 5: a different form to fill out. And if you answer
- 38:28Speaker 5: even like, yes, I had sex three years ago, then
- 38:31Speaker 5: you're not qualified to give blood. So that's ridiculous. But
- 38:34Speaker 5: they're not allowed to donate blood in public hospitals. Transgendered
- 38:37Speaker 5: people are legally required to identify with their birth or
- 38:41Speaker 5: their dead names, basically. and same-sex couples do not have
- 38:45Speaker 5: the right to marry. So basically, Caracas and Venezuela are
- 38:48Speaker 5: the United States in the 90s. Five police officers were
- 38:52Speaker 5: detained in Venezuela after NGOs reported an illegal raid, acts
- 38:56Speaker 5: of extortion, arrest of 33 men in gay entertainment venue
- 39:00Speaker 5: in the Lada State. The prosecutor general's office reported the
- 39:04Speaker 5: arrest at the time, and the investigation was launched. So
- 39:08Speaker 5: it's not great to be gay in Venezuela, However, they're
- 39:11Speaker 5: trying to change that because, like we said earlier, there
- 39:13Speaker 5: is a gay community and it's not going away and
- 39:17Speaker 5: they want to be more recognized. Maybe, maybe the change
- 39:22Speaker 5: in our Congress and our Senate and House, which will
- 39:24Speaker 5: be more LGBTQ friendly, maybe that will spread. I don't know. Well,
- 39:30Speaker 5: I guess we'll have to see. All right, here's something,
- 39:37Speaker 5: a story that's... The Supreme Court conservative majority seemed inclined
- 39:46Speaker 5: to rule that the four-year-old children of gay and trans
- 39:49Speaker 5: parents can be barred from state-funded pre-K programs. In 2022,
- 39:56Speaker 5: Colorado adopted a statewide program to provide all four-year-olds with
- 39:59Speaker 5: an early education. The program paid for taxpayers to the
- 40:03Speaker 5: tune of $ 6, 300 per child, was open to all, including
- 40:06Speaker 5: religious groups. The only caveat was that the preschool program
- 40:09Speaker 5: had to comply with the state law barring discrimination based
- 40:13Speaker 5: on race, religion, ethnicity, or other categories. Although the Catholic
- 40:16Speaker 5: Church initially supported the program, and the non-profit Catholic Charities
- 40:20Speaker 5: still participates in it, the Denver Archdiocese maintained that compliance
- 40:25Speaker 5: with the state's non-discrimination mandate violated the Constitution's guarantee to
- 40:31Speaker 5: free exercise of religion. The Denver Archdiocese, though not others
- 40:37Speaker 5: in the state, by the way, want an exemption from
- 40:39Speaker 5: the law so they can obtain state funding while at
- 40:43Speaker 5: the same time barring from its program children of gay
- 40:47Speaker 5: and trans parents and the Supreme Court is sort of
- 40:50Speaker 5: poised to let them. Isn't that ironic? The richest religious
- 40:56Speaker 5: entity in the world, the Catholic Church, wants the money
- 40:59Speaker 5: from the state, but they want to take it and
- 41:02Speaker 5: be able to discriminate against families who actually pay taxes
- 41:06Speaker 5: to help pay that fee. And isn't it ironic, Mr.
- 41:10Speaker 5: Scott Jacobson, that a religion is going out of its
- 41:13Speaker 5: way legally to legally discriminate against children?
- 41:19Speaker 4: Right. Legally going out of its way to take money
- 41:23Speaker 4: from public taxpayers meant for public good to discriminate against
- 41:28Speaker 4: select individuals in the population based on sexual orientation and
- 41:32Speaker 4: gender identity.
- 41:33Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 41:34Speaker 4: It's a perfect recipe of the use of religion for discrimination.
- 41:36Speaker 5: It is.
- 41:38Speaker 4: And many of those public taxpayers are... LGBTQIA +.
- 41:43Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, look, Catholic Church, if you don't want...
- 41:46Speaker 5: It's like, look, Catholic Church, if you don't want these
- 41:49Speaker 5: kids in your preschool, don't take the fucking money. It's
- 41:52Speaker 5: that simple. Don't take the money.
- 41:55Speaker 4: And this is the big thing. From their mentality, many
- 41:59Speaker 4: of them, of the more hardline, conservative orientation, they will
- 42:05Speaker 4: frame this as a restriction on their religious freedom. That's
- 42:08Speaker 4: exactly what this is saying. They're not realizing... then a
- 42:11Speaker 4: universalization of standard would require them to not do so.
- 42:17Speaker 8: Right.
- 42:17Speaker 4: But they see stopping them from discrimination as an oppression
- 42:22Speaker 4: of them, when in fact they are the ones doing it.
- 42:25Speaker 5: Yes. If I can't discriminate, you are discriminating against me.
- 42:32Speaker 4: Yes.
- 42:32Speaker 5: That's what they're saying. They're saying that I want to discriminate,
- 42:37Speaker 5: and if I can't discriminate, then it's discrimination and I
- 42:40Speaker 5: should sue. That's circular thinking.
- 42:49Speaker 4: Yes. So they will be the same individuals often, not always,
- 42:54Speaker 4: to rail against the victimhood as a culture in terms
- 42:57Speaker 4: of their framing. And then they will frame their own
- 43:03Speaker 4: victimization of others and the stoppage of it as a
- 43:06Speaker 4: victimization of them. And therefore they will play victim, even
- 43:10Speaker 4: though they are a significant minority, if not a majority
- 43:13Speaker 4: of the population in certain areas. And therefore, they're claiming
- 43:17Speaker 4: a majoritarian victimhood stance when they are stopped from discriminating
- 43:21Speaker 4: against a minority.
- 43:22Speaker 5: I should think they'd want younger children. They could groom
- 43:24Speaker 5: them to be assaulted then, you know. I mean, it
- 43:27Speaker 5: is the Catholic Church, the largest child raporing in the world.
- 43:31Speaker 4: Well, I did do a volunteer-based project, and it's a
- 43:34Speaker 4: free text I did on Orthodox clergy abuse. with experts
- 43:39Speaker 4: and victims and advocates. So I'm well aware it's in Catholic, Orthodox, everywhere.
- 43:45Speaker 4: That's a significant problem.
- 43:45Speaker 5: Yeah. Priests like to diddle little boys. Who knew? Yeah. Well,
- 43:50Speaker 5: I knew. I knew when I was an altar boy.
- 43:52Speaker 5: I mean, I knew. Although they didn't diddle me and
- 43:55Speaker 5: I sued them because, you know, that kind of rejection.
- 43:58Speaker 5: I can't have it. I'm kidding. I didn't sue them.
- 44:01Speaker 5: Colombian activists fight to bring LGBTQ left-wing history back to
- 44:05Speaker 5: the National Museum. Just so you understand the story, the
- 44:10Speaker 5: National Museum of Bogota used to have left-wing history and
- 44:15Speaker 5: LGBTQ history. And then under a president that was previous,
- 44:20Speaker 5: it was removed. And now that the newly elected president,
- 44:23Speaker 5: and I cannot pronounce his name, Ebaloado de la Espría,
- 44:29Speaker 5: and what he has launched is a cultural counter-revolution. Columbia's
- 44:34Speaker 5: government took down more than 40 items from the National Museum.
- 44:37Speaker 5: Most of those items reflect the leftist, feminist, and LGBTQ history,
- 44:41Speaker 5: and now others want it back. I find it really
- 44:45Speaker 5: interesting when people try, Donald Trump is doing this here
- 44:49Speaker 5: in America, hopefully he'll be stopped now, when they try to,
- 44:53Speaker 5: I don't want to say rewrite history, when they try
- 44:58Speaker 5: to erase the history of people they don't agree with.
- 45:02Speaker 5: They don't like gays, they don't like lesbians, they don't
- 45:04Speaker 5: like left-wing, they don't like empowered women, so let's take
- 45:08Speaker 5: away anything from a museum that might remind people those
- 45:12Speaker 5: people exist. It's like removing Frida Kahlo paintings because you
- 45:15Speaker 5: don't like strong, independent women. And that's really what they're
- 45:20Speaker 5: trying to do. They're trying to say, well, we don't
- 45:22Speaker 5: like these people, so we don't want to see their art,
- 45:24Speaker 5: we don't want to see anything that pertains to their life,
- 45:27Speaker 5: You know, as if that in some way erases them,
- 45:30Speaker 5: because that's what they're trying to do is erase them,
- 45:33Speaker 5: you know, and it's not going to work, but they're trying.
- 45:37Speaker 5: You know, here in Nevada, we have the Southern Nevada
- 45:39Speaker 5: Art Museum just opened downtown, and their whole back wall
- 45:42Speaker 5: is LGBTQ local history, and it changes out, and it's wonderful.
- 45:47Speaker 5: And this museum where you can see LaTrek and Van
- 45:49Speaker 5: Gogh and all this, you can also see a whole
- 45:51Speaker 5: wall of LGBTQ history. I think that's fabulous. You know,
- 45:56Speaker 5: I'm trying to get Grammy Museum to do the same thing,
- 45:58Speaker 5: to have a DEI sort of corner where we feature
- 46:02Speaker 5: work from women, neurodivergent, LGBTQ, people of color, and, you know,
- 46:08Speaker 5: have that as a regular exhibit there to show that
- 46:11Speaker 5: there are diverse communities making music. It's harder than I
- 46:14Speaker 5: thought to get them to do that, but I am trying.
- 46:20Speaker 5: All right. So what else have we got going on
- 46:22Speaker 5: here in our little, I don't know. Do we want
- 46:24Speaker 5: to do another Catholic? I'm so sick of Catholic stories.
- 46:27Speaker 5: I really am.
- 46:28Speaker 4: There was a lot of Catholic stories.
- 46:31Speaker 5: I grew up Catholic. Okay, I did. My mom was
- 46:33Speaker 5: Catholic and my dad too. And so I had to
- 46:36Speaker 5: go to Catholic school, which was a debacle. I got
- 46:39Speaker 5: kicked out in sixth grade for hitting a nun. Uh,
- 46:43Speaker 5: but she deserved it. Uh, and you know, when I
- 46:48Speaker 5: was part of the Catholic church and school, I saw
- 46:52Speaker 5: what a cult it truly is and it is, uh,
- 46:56Speaker 5: and how they're just weird. You know, their, their, their
- 46:59Speaker 5: whole mass is weird. The trans the transfiguration, you know,
- 47:04Speaker 5: body of Christ, blood of Christ. It's like, you're, you
- 47:08Speaker 5: turn into cannibals in the middle of a Catholic mass.
- 47:11Speaker 5: You've been doing it. Have you been to a Catholic mass?
- 47:15Speaker 4: Sure.
- 47:16Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 47:17Speaker 5: And you saw communion?
- 47:21Speaker 4: No, I did the thing.
- 47:25Speaker 5: The baptism? Is that what that was?
- 47:27Speaker 4: No, you go up to the priest, you go like this,
- 47:29Speaker 4: and then they don't do it for you.
- 47:31Speaker 5: Well, yeah.
- 47:31Speaker 4: They give you a blessing, but they don't give you
- 47:33Speaker 4: the Christ.
- 47:33Speaker 5: The whole thing of what they're doing.
- 47:36Speaker 5: Is allegedly feeding you the body of Christ. Take this,
- 47:40Speaker 5: all of you, and drink from it, for this is
- 47:42Speaker 5: my blood. You know, the blood of the everlasting.
- 47:45Speaker 4: They mean that literally and spiritually.
- 47:47Speaker 5: Yes. And so they're cannibals, basically. And they want to
- 47:54Speaker 5: tell me what's moral and just. They wear dresses and
- 47:56Speaker 5: yet denounce gay people. They turn into cannibals every time
- 47:59Speaker 5: they have a mass and yet want to act morally superior.
- 48:04Speaker 5: And back until about 15 years ago, they let nuns
- 48:07Speaker 5: beat you up at school. And then the priest would
- 48:10Speaker 5: molest you later to make it all better. So, you know,
- 48:13Speaker 5: I have real odds with the Catholic Church. And I
- 48:17Speaker 5: maintain they hide behind religion because they are, in fact,
- 48:22Speaker 5: and this is a factual statement. They are the largest
- 48:26Speaker 5: child rape ring in the world. That is what they are.
- 48:30Speaker 5: There have been more children assaults out of the Catholic
- 48:33Speaker 5: Church than any other entity that we know of. And
- 48:38Speaker 5: they're not shut down. Yes.
- 48:42Speaker 4: In 2024, in Los Angeles, approximately $ 800 to $ 900 million
- 48:50Speaker 4: USD was paid out for class action lawsuits. And then
- 48:54Speaker 4: New York recently had its own, somewhere between 800 and
- 48:58Speaker 4: 900 million dollars as well. So we're seeing a reckoning
- 49:02Speaker 4: for class action lawsuits for victims. These are the victims
- 49:05Speaker 4: that are known.
- 49:07Speaker 5: You know what would be a reckoning? Shut them down.
- 49:11Speaker 5: Remove their tax exempt. They get to fuck kids and
- 49:15Speaker 5: have a tax exempt status. They get to discriminate and sue.
- 49:20Speaker 5: in Colorado to deprive children of access to their preschool
- 49:24Speaker 5: services and still get tax exempt status. And now they
- 49:30Speaker 5: want to collect $ 6, 300 per student. And then be able
- 49:34Speaker 5: to discriminate against which students they take. And on top
- 49:37Speaker 5: of that money coming in, get tax exempt status. We
- 49:41Speaker 5: could have universal health care in this country or a
- 49:44Speaker 5: good portion of it if we taxed all the fucking churches.
- 49:48Speaker 5: Your fairy tale should not exempt you from paying taxes.
- 49:55Speaker 4: Well, another thing is it's also they get a lot
- 49:58Speaker 4: of money, have gotten a lot of money, billions for
- 50:00Speaker 4: those charter schools, too.
- 50:02Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely. And yet they threw me out in 1975
- 50:08Speaker 5: because my parents couldn't pay the tuition and I hit
- 50:11Speaker 5: a nun. So those two things combined, it was a
- 50:14Speaker 5: perfect storm and out I went. But she hit me first,
- 50:17Speaker 5: by the way. A girl threw a ball at me
- 50:20Speaker 5: and hit me. So I picked the ball up and
- 50:23Speaker 5: threw it back at the girl and hit her. The
- 50:25Speaker 5: nun saw what I did, came over and hit me
- 50:27Speaker 5: and said, you like to hit girls? And she smacked me.
- 50:30Speaker 5: So even though I was only in sixth grade, I
- 50:32Speaker 5: smacked her back and her habit came right off her head.
- 50:35Speaker 5: And everybody was like, ooh. Of course, I went straight
- 50:39Speaker 5: to the principal's office where they called my parents and
- 50:41Speaker 5: they were told to come pick me up. And I
- 50:43Speaker 5: was no longer welcome at St. Anthony's. And they made
- 50:46Speaker 5: it clear during that meeting what good graces we were
- 50:49Speaker 5: on because I was on their pro bono. They allow
- 50:55Speaker 5: certain students to come free if they can't afford it.
- 50:58Speaker 5: And I was one of those students that they gave
- 51:00Speaker 5: lunch to and let be free at the school. And
- 51:03Speaker 5: so I was a pro bono student. So they pointed
- 51:05Speaker 5: out every time they could how grateful I should be
- 51:09Speaker 5: to them for a tax-exempt billion-dollar entity providing me education.
- 51:14Speaker 4: So, yeah.
- 51:16Speaker 5: Oh, I never realized I'm so angry at the Catholic church.
- 51:18Speaker 5: I didn't, I didn't really realize that. Uh, when my
- 51:22Speaker 5: mom died.
- 51:23Speaker 4: I don't think you're angry. I think, I think you're
- 51:25Speaker 4: justified in outrage.
- 51:28Speaker 5: You know, when my mom died, the priest, I had the,
- 51:30Speaker 5: I had her service at St. Anthony's because that's where
- 51:33Speaker 5: that was her church. And the priest, I was on
- 51:36Speaker 5: radio at the time and the priest was horrified because
- 51:40Speaker 5: he had heard me on radio many times speak of
- 51:43Speaker 5: my contempt for the Catholic church. And he thought I
- 51:45Speaker 5: was going to come and have mom's funeral there and
- 51:47Speaker 5: get up on the pulpit and, you know, say something inappropriate.
- 51:51Speaker 5: And I assured him, I am here for my mother,
- 51:53Speaker 5: not for you. You know, so I'm not going to
- 51:57Speaker 5: say anything inappropriate while I am up on the podium
- 52:00Speaker 5: or whatever they call it, pulpit, altar, whatever. But they
- 52:03Speaker 5: were really scared that I was going to say horrible
- 52:05Speaker 5: things during the mass about the Catholic Church. And I thought, wow,
- 52:10Speaker 5: a little insecure much? You know, come on, a little insecure?
- 52:14Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 52:15Speaker 5: All right. Well, we've got 30 seconds left in this segment.
- 52:18Speaker 5: One more to go. And we'll come back and talk
- 52:21Speaker 5: about in Manila LGBTQIA individuals and whether or not they
- 52:25Speaker 5: should qualify for solo accounting benefits. and so much more.
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- 53:34Speaker 1: Now it's showtime.
- 53:40Speaker 5: I'm laughing because Ember is asleep over there under the
- 53:43Speaker 5: chair and she is sawing some logs, honey. She is snoring.
- 53:46Speaker 5: She is as loud as can be. She'll be 11
- 53:50Speaker 5: in two weeks. I can't believe it. It's killing me.
- 53:53Speaker 5: It's killing me. Your birthdays are close together. Yes. I'm
- 53:56Speaker 5: November 7th. She's November 15th. November 15th is when I
- 54:00Speaker 5: got ran over and Pippa died. And we found out
- 54:02Speaker 5: later that Ember was born on that very day. So
- 54:05Speaker 5: she was meant to be my doggie. And they should
- 54:07Speaker 5: live to be 30 or 40 because I will not
- 54:09Speaker 5: be ready in three or four or five years when
- 54:11Speaker 5: her time comes. I will not be ready. And that's
- 54:16Speaker 5: going to be a problem. But let's not pre-grieve. All right. So,
- 54:22Speaker 5: you know... There's a lot of controversy around gays being parents.
- 54:27Speaker 5: I don't know why. All the research shows we make
- 54:29Speaker 5: much better parents, and we do. Our kids are more well-adjusted.
- 54:34Speaker 5: They feel more loved. They feel more included. There's so
- 54:37Speaker 5: much research that gay and lesbian parents are actually better
- 54:40Speaker 5: parents than straight parents, which is based on outcomes, based
- 54:45Speaker 5: on how their kids turn out. Because we won't have it.
- 54:48Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? Oh, and they're also better dressed and,
- 54:51Speaker 5: you know, better fashion and all of that. But in Manila,
- 54:55Speaker 5: they are trying to promote parenthood and including single parenthood.
- 54:59Speaker 5: And that's important because some people, you know, there are
- 55:03Speaker 5: a lot of kids out there that need to be adopted. And,
- 55:06Speaker 5: you know, one person can raise a kid, you know,
- 55:08Speaker 5: as well as two. Yeah. And so in Manila, they
- 55:12Speaker 5: wanted to clarify that from the Department of Social Welfare
- 55:16Speaker 5: that members of the LGBTQIA community are not excluded. for
- 55:22Speaker 5: qualifying for solo parent benefits under the Republic Act number 11861,
- 55:28Speaker 5: also known as the Expanded Solo Parents Welfare Act. There
- 55:32Speaker 5: was some question as to whether or not there was
- 55:34Speaker 5: some discrimination. They were being denied these payments and such.
- 55:39Speaker 5: But they said the law is clear and there is
- 55:41Speaker 5: no room for interpretation that would suggest members of the
- 55:44Speaker 5: gay community are not covered. The law simply states if
- 55:47Speaker 5: you are a single parent, you get these benefits. It
- 55:50Speaker 5: does not say except XYZ or LGBTQIA. So their minister
- 55:57Speaker 5: has clarified that gay people will, in fact, qualify and do,
- 56:03Speaker 5: in fact, qualify to get benefits to be a single
- 56:06Speaker 5: parent in America. in manila uh and that's a good
- 56:11Speaker 5: story that's that's you know they're not being denied benefits
- 56:16Speaker 5: uh they're being they're being granted benefits uh and that's
- 56:20Speaker 5: always a good story and as i said uh you
- 56:23Speaker 5: know gays make great parents and sure there's some that
- 56:26Speaker 5: don't uh but uh others you know others do uh
- 56:31Speaker 5: and um i'd I'd like to end if we can
- 56:34Speaker 5: that there was also a rainbow wave, not just a
- 56:37Speaker 5: blue wave here in the United States. There was a
- 56:40Speaker 5: rainbow wave. Chris Pappas, the Democrat that we talked about
- 56:43Speaker 5: from the Senate in New Hampshire, the first out gay
- 56:46Speaker 5: man elected to the U.S.
- 56:47Speaker 8: Senate.
- 56:48Speaker 5: We had Sarah McBride, a Democrat. She's going to be
- 56:51Speaker 5: in the U.S. House from Delaware. She is a transgendered
- 56:57Speaker 5: female and transgendered woman. And she will be in the U.S.
- 57:02Speaker 5: Congress serving. Not the first, by the way. There has
- 57:05Speaker 5: been another. Or wait, no, the nation's first out transgendered
- 57:08Speaker 5: federal lawmaker. I thought there was another one, but I
- 57:11Speaker 5: guess not. So she is going to go into the
- 57:15Speaker 5: House from Delaware. And then J.D. Ford is a Democrat
- 57:19Speaker 5: from Indiana, and he is going to go into the U.S. House.
- 57:23Speaker 5: And Indiana is a conservative state. So his victory there
- 57:26Speaker 5: means that they're really pissed off at the Republicans, because
- 57:30Speaker 5: if they chose a gay man in Indiana over a Republican,
- 57:33Speaker 5: they're really pissed. And then we have Bentley Hudgens. a Democrat.
- 57:41Speaker 5: She will be in the Georgia Assembly. She won a
- 57:43Speaker 5: seat in the Georgia Assembly as the state's first out-transgendered
- 57:47Speaker 5: and non-binary state lawmaker. Sharice Davis, a Democrat, will be
- 57:52Speaker 5: in the U.S. House from Kansas. And she won re-election
- 57:58Speaker 5: after preserving her historic representation of the Sunflower State, Kansas.
- 58:02Speaker 5: She is a lesbian. Then we had Richie Torres. He's
- 58:06Speaker 5: a Democrat. He will be in the U.S. House in
- 58:09Speaker 5: New York. And Malcolm Kenyatta, a Democrat, will be in
- 58:13Speaker 5: the Pennsylvania House. Jeremy Moss will be in the U.S.
- 58:16Speaker 5: House from Michigan. Deshauna Neal, a Democrat, will be in
- 58:21Speaker 5: the Delaware House. Mark Pocan will be in the U.S.
- 58:24Speaker 5: House from Wisconsin. And Zoe Zephyr will be in the
- 58:28Speaker 5: Montana House. Then we have Joanne Mendoza going to the U.S.
- 58:32Speaker 5: House from the conservative state of Arizona. Maura Healey, a Democrat.
- 58:39Speaker 5: She's going to be the governor of Massachusetts. She is
- 58:41Speaker 5: a lesbian. She defeated a Republican, and she's the nation's
- 58:45Speaker 5: first out lesbian governor. And then we had Eric Sorensen, Democrat,
- 58:50Speaker 5: will be in the U.S. House from Illinois. And Claire
- 58:53Speaker 5: Snyder-Hall is a Democrat. She'll be in the Delaware House.
- 58:57Speaker 5: Emily Randall will be in the U.S. House from Washington.
- 59:02Speaker 5: Tina Kotek, governor from Oregon. And she is a lesbian.
- 59:06Speaker 5: And of course, my friend used to be the mayor
- 59:08Speaker 5: of my city of Long Beach and a friend of mine.
- 59:10Speaker 5: Robert Garcia is a Democrat in the U.S. House, and
- 59:13Speaker 5: he's on several committees. He's a very powerful Democrat. Mark Tucano, Democrat,
- 59:18Speaker 5: the U.S. House from California. Marnie Von Wilpert, Democrat, U.S.
- 59:22Speaker 5: House from California. Ann Johnson, Democrat in the Texas House
- 59:26Speaker 5: from And Becca Ballant will be the co-chair of the
- 59:30Speaker 5: Congressional Equality Caucus, as well as Alison Montgomery, Democrat in
- 59:34Speaker 5: the Alabama House. And that's the list. And that's a
- 59:38Speaker 5: whole lot of fucking LGBTQ people in both the U.S.
- 59:42Speaker 5: House and their state houses. And I, for one, could
- 59:44Speaker 5: not be happier. That's really kind of incredible if you
- 59:49Speaker 5: think about it. I mean, that's kind of incredible if
- 59:52Speaker 5: you think about it. Tres bien.
- 59:53Speaker 4: Bueno.
- 59:53Speaker 5: Yeah. Can you think of any other country that has
- 59:57Speaker 5: that many LGBTQ people in their house? I can't. The
- 1:00:04Speaker 5: House of Commons, the House of Lords. I don't think
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: there's a ton of gay people in those. Well, we
- 1:00:13Speaker 5: have to make.
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: A distinction between those that are out known and those
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: that are suspected and just there.
- 1:00:21Speaker 7: All right.
- 1:00:22Speaker 5: You're going to stay safe over in the Ukraine. We'll
- 1:00:25Speaker 5: be back with Scott next week. Thank you for joining us.
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: What a great way to end, though. All of those
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: people in their state houses or the U.S. House of Representatives.
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: This was a good ending. This was a good choice.
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: Really good ending. Stay safe over there. I wish the
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: Democrats were taking power tomorrow so they could help Ukraine more.
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: But we'll see. We'll see how it goes. But in
- 1:00:47Speaker 5: the meantime, as you said, even tonight you had ballistics
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: and you had drones and you had all that and
- 1:00:55Speaker 5: you know well.
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: The big thing is now electricity is very scarce and
- 1:00:59Speaker 4: running water can be scarce.
- 1:01:03Speaker 5: Well i am corral be who you want to be
- 1:01:04Speaker 5: if i'm hurting anybody i'm gonna go and send scott
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: some water try some solar panels that's the best i
- 1:01:13Speaker 5: can do uh but hey it'll be something i believe.
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: This is the last hello darkness my.
- 1:01:21Speaker 5: Old friend yeah well truly huh i mean you've got
- 1:01:24Speaker 5: light right now.
- 1:01:25Speaker 6: It's broadcasting from a completely different point of view yours
- 1:01:29Speaker 6: listen daily to the corral cast on your favorite streaming service.
- 1:01:38Speaker 5: I want to stop all that because I just have
- 1:01:39Speaker 5: to tell you right at that point, my friend Thea's
- 1:01:42Speaker 5: song came to mind, which is right now, you've got power, power, power.
- 1:01:48Speaker 5: But you may not later. Right now? Oh, it's amazing.
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: Oh, when the power's off all day, it's just black.
- 1:01:56Speaker 5: My HOA turned off the water yesterday to do a
- 1:01:59Speaker 5: repair for four hours and I fucking lost my mind.
- 1:02:01Speaker 5: I was like, no water? So I can't imagine going
- 1:02:05Speaker 5: a day or two without water.
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: I think yesterday we had power out for about, Yeah,
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: I think yesterday I was maybe out for maybe 16
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: or 18 hours, and then there's some running water. And
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: then it's like 9 degrees or lower outside.
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: I could send you a portable generator.
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: There's just no heating.
- 1:02:20Speaker 5: I could send you a little generator.
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: We got a battery thing here. Well, I had surgery,
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: so I lay under blankets right now while I work.
- 1:02:28Speaker 5: What did you have? Wait a minute.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: What?
- 1:02:31Speaker 5: You dropped that on me at the end of the show. Well,
- 1:02:34Speaker 5: I had surgery. For what?
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: And that is this gay week with Carell Boulay and
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: Scott Jacobson.
- 1:02:41Speaker 5: Don't tell me you were sexually reassigned. I mean, what
- 1:02:44Speaker 5: surgery did you have? Was it minor surgery?
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: It's minor to moderate surgery.
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: Where'd you have it? In Ukraine?
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: I'm in, I think.
- 1:02:56Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:02:57Speaker 5: In a Ukrainian hospital?
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: The doctor's here.
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: They had surgery in Ukraine clinic. Well, I hope it
- 1:03:05Speaker 5: wasn't anything major. Was it like skin cancer removal or something?
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: Or was it like, it was a problem. It wasn't, uh,
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: no organs. Um, well, I guess, well, technically the whole
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: human body is different organs, even skin biggest organ, but still, um,
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: it was, uh, it's an issue. It's good. It's in
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: healing and it should be good.
- 1:03:28Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:03:29Speaker 5: Do you have a scar?
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: I mean, like full recovery will be six months. Immediate
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: recovery will be within a week from now. And it
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: was a week ago.
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: Good Lord. Over there having surgeries in Ukrainian hospitals. Good Lord. Well,
- 1:03:49Speaker 5: how's their health care there? How'd you do? How much
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: did it cost?
- 1:03:54Speaker 7: It depends.
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: There's certain things that I would say they do excellently.
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: So dental care, excellent. Law, excellent. Although they might have
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: a different traditional system.
- 1:04:03Speaker 5: Did you have to pay as a foreigner there? As
- 1:04:06Speaker 5: someone who's, you're not a resident. So did you have
- 1:04:10Speaker 5: to pay? Was it expensive?
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: It was reasonable.
- 1:04:20Speaker 5: Let's say you were in Canada. How much cheaper would
- 1:04:22Speaker 5: it have been than if you were in Canada?
- 1:04:28Speaker 4: Oh, that's a really good question. I'd have to do
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: a formal comparison. I don't know, but I know it's cheaper.
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: Cheaper.
- 1:04:34Speaker 4: That wasn't the reason I came here. It was an incidental.
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: It was an incidental thing. Right.
- 1:04:38Speaker 5: You didn't go to Ukraine to have a surgery. No
- 1:04:40Speaker 5: one would accuse you of that.
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: You know, I went to Warsaw for a big business
- 1:04:46Speaker 4: thing conference. And then I went to for a few
- 1:04:50Speaker 4: days and I went to a NATO military tech summit
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: in Prague, interviewed a special operations general and some others.
- 1:04:57Speaker 4: Then they came back, and then it was still a problem,
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: but I kept having to delay because of travel. Then
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: I had to go to Western Ukraine, back from Kyiv,
- 1:05:06Speaker 4: to Lviv, to interview a chief rabbi, one of the
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: heads for Chabad, Lviv over there. Then I came back,
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: and then I got the surgery.
- 1:05:13Speaker 5: Do you still have your appendix? Is that your appendix? Oh,
- 1:05:19Speaker 5: I don't have mine. It fell out, basically. Well, I mean,
- 1:05:23Speaker 5: they had to go in.
- 1:05:24Speaker 4: I'm in excellent health. I just had a little thing.
- 1:05:29Speaker 5: Just a newsflash. Just a newsflash. People in excellent health
- 1:05:33Speaker 5: don't have surgery in Ukraine. Just so you know. Your
- 1:05:37Speaker 5: health was not excellent at that moment.
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: Okay. Touche.
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: Yes. All right.
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: All right.
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: We'll let him go now. Obviously, he's recovering. I was
- 1:05:46Speaker 5: in the hospital two weeks ago, too. We're probably laying
- 1:05:48Speaker 5: in the hospital bed at the same time. Except mine
- 1:05:51Speaker 5: cost a lot more. They came in. My heart was
- 1:05:54Speaker 5: beating 188 beats a minute. Irregular. Uncontrolled. And they come
- 1:05:59Speaker 5: into my fucking room with a credit card machine and
- 1:06:01Speaker 5: ask me for $ 195 copay. Then they admit me later.
- 1:06:05Speaker 5: And about eight hours later, having not seen a doctor,
- 1:06:08Speaker 5: only seen physician's assistants, they come in and tell me
- 1:06:10Speaker 5: my daily co-pay is going to be $ 400 and would
- 1:06:12Speaker 5: I like to use the credit card on file?
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: We should have done this gay week recline hospital edition.
- 1:06:21Speaker 4: It would have been great.
- 1:06:22Speaker 5: Amen.
- 1:06:23Speaker 7: All right.
- 1:06:23Speaker 5: I am Karel Buhi. Want to be someone to hurt anybody?
- 1:06:25Speaker 5: We'll see Scott next week. Au revoir.