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Buffalo Sabres Postgame Show: Game 5 of 84 vs Utah 4-1 LOSS - Sabres Semantics · The Armchair GM's Sports Network

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  Speaker 1: Hits FM with you, too. Yeah, recap, a tough one
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  Speaker 1: tonight for the Buffalo Sabers, falling 4-1 to the Utah
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  Speaker 1: Mammoth on home ice. We're going to get to Lindy
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  Speaker 1: Ruff's live postgame here shortly with his thoughts. And we're
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  Speaker 1: going to go over the scoring summary, the game stats.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to ask Jonathan for a player of the
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  Speaker 1: game as well. We've got some fan poll reaction to
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  Speaker 1: go over as well. And make sure you guys get
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  Speaker 1: involved in the chat as well. We want to hear
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  Speaker 1: your guys' thoughts on the game as well. Jonathan, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's Canadian Thanksgiving weekend, okay? So I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: get too upset. I don't want to ruin our turkey day.
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow or today. Happy Canadian Thanksgiving. You're listening on the Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not going to ruin my weekend. But man,
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  Speaker 1: that was a tough one to watch tonight.
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  Speaker 4: It was a little rough. It was it was a
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  Speaker 4: little rough to witness that one.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't really know where to start because I felt like
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  Speaker 4: the start of the game was actually not so bad.
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  Speaker 4: I thought, you know, things were going pretty good. And
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  Speaker 4: then you know, my wife was texting me during her
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  Speaker 4: work shift and she's like, Oh, every time I look
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  Speaker 4: up the scores changed and it's not going good. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: she's like, are they just sleepy? And I'm like, I don't,
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if you can call it that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know really what to describe that game as,
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  Speaker 4: but it was not fun to be a Sabres fan
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  Speaker 4: on this fine Saturday night ahead of Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 5: No, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and, Again, this is back-to-back tough games for Buffalo, right?
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have a postgame show for the Dallas game,
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  Speaker 1: which we wouldn't have had much to talk about anyway.
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  Speaker 1: They lost 4-0 in that game. They're playing three straight
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  Speaker 1: Western Conference opponents. Again, I can give them sort of
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  Speaker 1: a pass for the Dallas game because Dallas is one
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  Speaker 1: of the best teams in the Western Conference, even though
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to see them lose 4-0. Utah's got
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  Speaker 1: a really good top-end power play unit. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this was a game that, especially on home ice on
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  Speaker 1: a Saturday, wearing the black and reds tonight, which was
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  Speaker 1: a cool mix with the tusks of the Mammoth you know,
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  Speaker 1: and the goat heads of the Sabres, which was a
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  Speaker 1: cool Jersey combination there. But again, like they just, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like Lindy and we'll get to it, made some
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  Speaker 1: changes within the lineup, try to spark some things. He
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  Speaker 1: started Ellis in the net over UPL, but it just
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  Speaker 1: seems like, again, they finally got a power play goal.
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  Speaker 1: They were last team in the league to finally get
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  Speaker 1: a power play goal. They got one tonight, but then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they gave up multiple power play goals in
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  Speaker 1: this game. They couldn't get anything going on their other
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  Speaker 1: power plays. you know, there was some big time players
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  Speaker 1: that did not have good performances tonight, which we'll kind
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  Speaker 1: of talk about as we go into the scoring summary
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  Speaker 1: and things like that, but just a flat game. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I took notes, and I think I need to start
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  Speaker 1: sponsoring my notepad for this show, but I mean, the shot,
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo had 11 shots after two periods, and I know
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  Speaker 1: this is a little bit of contradicting myself. Last show
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  Speaker 1: I talked about, it's not about how many shots on
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  Speaker 1: goal you have, but You're on home ice.
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  Speaker 3: You're looking for a bounce back performance.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have 11 shots through two periods and expect
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  Speaker 1: to win a lot of hockey games.
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  Speaker 4: No, you're not going to win games without getting the
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  Speaker 4: puck on net. And that's the thing I think that's
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  Speaker 4: very frustrating from a fan perspective, understanding what Lindy Ruff
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  Speaker 4: is expecting of a team and the disconnect from what
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  Speaker 4: the team is failing to execute. Because Lindy Ruff's style
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  Speaker 4: is pucks on net. I feel like everybody post game
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  Speaker 4: show all season long, win, loss, draw, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: matter that he has been talking about getting pucks on net,
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  Speaker 4: getting in the dirty areas and scoring some ugly ones.
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  Speaker 4: And again, I don't even know. I think we talked
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  Speaker 4: a little bit about it during the Minnesota post game
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  Speaker 4: show where it was like, Oh, they're trying to pass
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  Speaker 4: the puck into the net. I don't even know if
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  Speaker 4: you could call what they did tonight, passing the puck
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  Speaker 4: into the net. I just, everything felt disjointed, disorganized. You know, I'm,
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  Speaker 4: Already thinking back to pregame, I think it might have been,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if this quote came out from after
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  Speaker 4: morning skate this morning or if it was yesterday after
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  Speaker 4: practice or something like that. But, you know, Josh Doan
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  Speaker 4: talked a little bit about, you know, the struggles that
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  Speaker 4: a younger team has getting going in a season, especially
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  Speaker 4: with limited training camp. The veteran guys, they know what
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  Speaker 4: they're walking into. They know what they're used to. And while, yes,
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  Speaker 4: these guys are spending all of August on the ice
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  Speaker 4: in some fashion or another, there's a little bit of,
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  Speaker 4: a learning curve, especially with the amount of newer players
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  Speaker 4: that are coming back into the fold. We saw two
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  Speaker 4: of those guys be out of the lineup tonight. You
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  Speaker 4: had a guy who I thought played pretty well in
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  Speaker 4: Justin Danforth who missed a lot of time last year,
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  Speaker 4: but he would be one of those guys that you
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  Speaker 4: would label a veteran. I think this is the first
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  Speaker 4: game that I can say that I watched because I
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  Speaker 4: didn't have a chance to see all of the Dallas
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  Speaker 4: game other than the highlights. But watching this run from
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  Speaker 4: start to finish, this was the first game where I
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  Speaker 4: kind of felt myself being like, it probably would have
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  Speaker 4: been nice to have an Alex Tuck out.
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  Speaker 3: There, you know?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're just not putting up enough goals right now, right, Jonathan?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they've got one goal in the last two games.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to win a lot of hockey games
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  Speaker 1: like that. We talked about the young players are going
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  Speaker 1: to have to step up into bigger roles for guys
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  Speaker 1: like Tuck and Byram not being on this team anymore.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the Zellweger, you know, we.
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  Speaker 1: Expected Doan, Benson, obviously with Helenus and Kulik not in
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  Speaker 1: the lineup tonight. Obviously those are two guys as well
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  Speaker 1: that they expect a lot from, but it just, they did,
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  Speaker 1: they are getting the contributions right now.
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  Speaker 3: They're taking some bad penalties as well.
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  Speaker 1: Some bad D zone coverage, even though they came into
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  Speaker 1: this game as one of the better defensive teams in
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  Speaker 1: the league. But tonight there were some sloppiness, some guys
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  Speaker 1: left out front for Utah, especially on a couple of their,
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  Speaker 1: their power play goals, but just, just not an overall
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  Speaker 1: great effort from Buffalo tonight on home ice.
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  Speaker 3: You, you wanted to see more.
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  Speaker 1: And usually this team has responded in the last, you know,
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  Speaker 1: eight eight or nine months when they've they've had a
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  Speaker 1: bad game they've responded with a good one especially on
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  Speaker 1: home ice like this and they've got one more home
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  Speaker 1: game on this homestand against Florida on a Monday afternoon
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  Speaker 1: before they go back out on the road for a
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  Speaker 1: while so again they were a better road team in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs and they're kind of showing it again to
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  Speaker 1: start the year here even though they've only played one
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  Speaker 1: road game again and there's an opener against Columbus but
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  Speaker 1: sputtering on home ice a little bit here. But let's
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  Speaker 1: move forward here, Jonathan. Let's touch on the lineup tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And we got the quote here from Lindy from the
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  Speaker 1: morning skate, which obviously caught a lot of attention because
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  Speaker 1: of Helenus and Kulik being out of the lineup. This
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  Speaker 1: is from Mike Harrington of the Buffalo News. Lindy, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to stay in the lineup here, you've got
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  Speaker 1: to play hard, and you've got to be bringing something
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  Speaker 1: to the table every night. Helenus and Kulik are going
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  Speaker 1: to be out tonight, not cutting it in the battle
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  Speaker 1: and defensive positioning department. So Lindy was pretty critical of
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  Speaker 1: two of his younger players there, and that can really
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  Speaker 1: go one of two ways. It can spark them, or
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  Speaker 1: it can disintegrate their confidence. But hopefully this is just
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  Speaker 1: a one-game thing for Kulik and Helenus, and they're both
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  Speaker 1: back in there on Monday.
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  Speaker 4: So for me, first off, I think Kulik– as much
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  Speaker 4: as it was a sit down of like, Hey, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're not loving what we're seeing out of you. I
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  Speaker 4: also feel like he did get banged up in that
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  Speaker 4: Dallas game. I obviously, I think Lindy probably would have
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  Speaker 4: liked to have just been able to say, Hey, this
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  Speaker 4: is just a maintenance thing. But I think because of
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  Speaker 4: the fact that Cooley defensively has not quite had the
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  Speaker 4: season that he needs to in terms of a start,
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  Speaker 4: which again, missing the whole year, I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: he was going to be like. I'm, I haven't seen
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  Speaker 4: glaring defensive problems from Kulik other than maybe I think
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  Speaker 4: the first game he was on the ice for a
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  Speaker 4: couple of goals. Maybe there was a couple other moments
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  Speaker 4: that I'm just not registering. Hellenist, I think he's just,
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  Speaker 4: you know, getting used to the man strength of the NHL.
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  Speaker 4: And yes, he's a young player who has played against
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  Speaker 4: men throughout his career in the Finnish league, playing in
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  Speaker 4: the AHL. But the NHL obviously is a whole other ballgame.
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  Speaker 4: And like Lindy is saying here, to stay in the lineup,
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  Speaker 4: you have to bring it every single night. And every
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  Speaker 4: single shift, there's no shifts off. I understand the messaging.
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  Speaker 4: I understand the moment. You have to think back on,
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  Speaker 4: I think it was the game against the Devils when
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  Speaker 4: they were over in Sweden a couple years ago where
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  Speaker 4: Peyton Krebs was the healthy scratch to start the year.
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  Speaker 4: He sat for one game and never sat again because
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  Speaker 4: he just proved to Lindy and the guys and the
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  Speaker 4: coaching staff that I'm not going to be the guy
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  Speaker 4: who's going to be the odd man out here. I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to work my butt off and I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: be in the lineup. And hopefully that's the same attitude
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  Speaker 4: that Consta and Yuri will bring when they get back
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  Speaker 4: in the lineup. Hopefully that's relatively soon, but a part
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  Speaker 4: of me also thought that maybe what we saw tonight
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  Speaker 4: was almost an audition or maybe a test drive of
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  Speaker 4: what Lindy could put out on the ice for Florida
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  Speaker 4: on Monday of much heavier and solid team.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the lineup right there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we saw Kozak and Danforth get in there. Kozak, I
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  Speaker 1: thought had a few good shifts in the first, obviously
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  Speaker 1: he had that meatball that he gave up for one
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  Speaker 1: of the goals, uh, that, that led to a goal
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  Speaker 1: for Utah, uh, Danforth on the third line as well. Like,
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  Speaker 1: what did you think of, I mean, you texted our, uh,
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  Speaker 1: our content team in the morning, you're like line up
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  Speaker 1: in a blender. And obviously with, when you take Helen
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  Speaker 1: news and Kulik out, it's going to change some things around,
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  Speaker 1: but what did you think of how it was deployed
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  Speaker 1: tonight by Lindy?
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  Speaker 4: I think I understand the motivation again. I wondered, and
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  Speaker 4: it's something that I put up in the, the saber
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  Speaker 4: semantics poll, which we'll touch on. But again, I wonder
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  Speaker 4: if putting a guy like Dan forth, putting Kozak in there,
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  Speaker 4: putting in Carrick, These guys who are a little bit
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  Speaker 4: stronger on the puck, who know how to battle, they're battle-tested,
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  Speaker 4: good checkers. Wondering if that is maybe a test drive
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  Speaker 4: for a team like Florida coming in on Monday and
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  Speaker 4: whether Lindy feels that based on who has been coming through,
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  Speaker 4: maybe they saw that they got pushed around a little
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  Speaker 4: too much by Dallas. I don't think Utah is far
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  Speaker 4: off from Dallas in terms of being a bigger team,
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  Speaker 4: a fast team. Florida obviously is going to be a
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  Speaker 4: heavy team. I know they just lost Brad Marchand. I
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  Speaker 4: know Barcos out. So they're not exactly the Florida Panthers
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  Speaker 4: that they could be at full steam. But still, I
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  Speaker 4: think you want to maybe test drive a couple of
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  Speaker 4: these guys and make sure that they've got their legs
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  Speaker 4: to like Kozak makes that mistake. But does he make
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  Speaker 4: that mistake if he's played all five games to start
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  Speaker 4: the year? I'd like to think no, you know, but.
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  Speaker 4: that's a part of it when they have as much
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  Speaker 4: depth as they do on forward, rotating these guys in
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  Speaker 4: is going to be a challenge at the best of times.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know. I still don't, I don't really
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  Speaker 4: like the idea of breaking up the Benson Oslin Quinn line.
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  Speaker 4: I know you want to get down going, but I
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  Speaker 4: would have rather kept down on that third line. Like
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  Speaker 4: Krebs McLeod. Don't seems like a great line to me.
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  Speaker 4: And then I don't know, maybe Kulik could have centered
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  Speaker 4: or played on the wing with Thompson or like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. Quickly, what's becoming obvious to me is that
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  Speaker 4: they're almost paralyzed by the amount of options they have
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  Speaker 4: and the amount of centers that they have. And at
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  Speaker 4: some point, they're going to have to identify who are
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  Speaker 4: the true four centers that are leading this team and
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  Speaker 4: running things up the middle of the ice. And who
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  Speaker 4: is that odd support guy that, okay, the draw is
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  Speaker 4: on your strong side, so you can take it as
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  Speaker 4: opposed to this mishmash of, all right, well, it's Norris
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  Speaker 4: who's playing center tonight, but now he's on the wing
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  Speaker 4: next game. And you got to... a young team is
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  Speaker 4: going to benefit from consistency and there has not been
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  Speaker 4: consistency since like game three of this, of the season.
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  Speaker 4: And I think we're seeing the, the, the opposite of
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  Speaker 4: the fruits of the labor on this situation.
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  Speaker 1: And Lindy came in the season saying Tage was going
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  Speaker 1: to play center, but he was also going to play
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  Speaker 1: some wing as well. Like, it just seems like, excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: he's really gone into that already in game five. Now
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  Speaker 1: Tage is back on the wing. You mentioned Norris was
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  Speaker 1: on the wing last game. He went back to center.
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  Speaker 1: Kulik out of the lineup, Helenus, those are two guys
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  Speaker 1: that have played center as well. So like, again, identifying
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  Speaker 1: who exactly are the centers on this team. I know
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  Speaker 1: that it's a good problem to have sometimes when you
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  Speaker 1: have too many centers and they can at least move
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  Speaker 1: to the wing. It's easier to move a center to
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  Speaker 1: the wing than it is a winger to a center.
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  Speaker 1: But for the Sabres, like they just keep mixing up
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  Speaker 1: the center ice position and it's just really not working
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  Speaker 1: right now. And they've been able to create one goal
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  Speaker 1: in the last two games. And as you mentioned, they
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  Speaker 1: brought in more, more defensive forwards and that may be,
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  Speaker 1: led to them only having 11 shots through 40 minutes
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  Speaker 1: of play because, you know, really the third and fourth
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  Speaker 1: lines were both essentially checking lines tonight, in my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: Well, okay, what do you guys do when Zucker gets back? Like,
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to leave Zucker barely dressing or playing
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  Speaker 4: every other night. Like, he is going to be a
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  Speaker 4: mainstay of this lineup. So already, okay, you take Kozak out.
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  Speaker 4: You're probably going to have to send him to the AHL, right?
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  Speaker 4: And then what do you do with Danforth? If Danforth
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  Speaker 4: becomes the odd man out, We've already seen Carrick be
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  Speaker 4: the odd man out a couple of times from Lindy's lineups.
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  Speaker 4: Like to me, what's really becoming obvious is that they
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  Speaker 4: just have too much forward depth, which seems like a
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  Speaker 4: crazy thing to say. But when you look at things again,
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  Speaker 4: to me, you can't figure out if Thompson is a
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  Speaker 4: state as a number one center. When you seem to
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  Speaker 4: put Norris up there, he doesn't quite elevate to that level.
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  Speaker 4: So you, to me it is becoming abundantly clear that
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  Speaker 4: this team needs a number one center more than you
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  Speaker 4: need Connor Hellebuck. Cause I thought Colton Ellis did a
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  Speaker 4: fairly decent job stuck, stopping the puck and really kept
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  Speaker 4: them in it, made some huge saves throughout the night.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's not going to look good on the
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  Speaker 4: score sheet and the stat sheet for the goals against
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  Speaker 4: and all that sort of stuff. But like, to me,
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  Speaker 4: the biggest solve of this is just one more get
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  Speaker 4: bonafide number one, top line player. And, either you got
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  Speaker 4: to hope that Yuri Kulik is going to redevelop into that.
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  Speaker 4: Like he was a couple of years ago or where
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  Speaker 4: he was trajectory to go, or you're going to have
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  Speaker 4: to go out there and spend and move off some guys.
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  Speaker 4: Cause you don't need seven guys, eight guys who can
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  Speaker 4: play center on a team. You need five, six. And
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  Speaker 4: I just think that until they kind of really can
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: firm up who is who on this lineup, and build
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: the lines that way. I think we're going to keep
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: seeing this chaos and I worry that the chaos is
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: going to lead to the lack of consistency.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to have more of that shortly here
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: as I'm trying to get Lindy's post game up here.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, it's I mean, we talked about
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Robert Thomas last year.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Was that possibly a move that Buffalo should have made?
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: We'll see, but we'll, we'll have more discussion on that after.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: So we're going to get to a head coach, Lindy
• 16:20
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• 16:31
  Speaker 1: to hear Lindy Ruff's postgame following the 4-1 defeat at
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: the hands of the Utah Mammoth.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: I just thought we.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: Had guys that were squeezing the stick. We had chances
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: to put pucks to the net. I think everybody realizes that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: We didn't put them, and I think Sometimes when things
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: aren't going well, you defer to moving the puck to
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: what you think is a better play. We actually showed
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: a couple clips after the second to try to get back.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: We haven't been connected. You know, we're trying to find.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: Who we are.
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: You know, when I use the word connected.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: When one piece gets beat, you've got to have another
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: piece there. We've been missing that piece.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: You look at the first goal. We could have got
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: outside help.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: We let a guy get inside and it ends up
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: being a backdoor goal. That's an area that we were
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: really good at. I thought Minnesota, I thought we were
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: gaining traction. We had locked in, played a real tough game.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, I watched these guys play.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Against Boston, I know they got beat.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: At one point, they were out shooting Boston by a
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: big number. They got good speed. I thought their speed
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: there a few times put us on our heels.
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: You mentioned this morning you wanted to see better battle,
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: better one-on-one compete.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Did you feel like, how'd you like the response?
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought a lot more. You know, we need
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: to get rewarded for a few of those plays around
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: the net. You know, we got inside. We had more battle.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Can we be better still? Yeah, I think so. I
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: think there's some forechecks where we lost battle and that
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: ends up losing zone time.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: And the frustration part, I'm sure, is you get a
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: power play goal, you get a lead to things that
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: haven't happened in these games, and you weren't able to
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: really carry.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Anything from that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and we weren't able to carry that momentum. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: thought the power play that did a lot of good things,
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: even in the third period, could have got a couple more.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Our entries were a lot better.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: That part of the game seemed connected, and we're using
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: some different pieces, killing.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: We've got to improve that part of the game.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: How much do you have to just keep working individually
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: with Norris, Doe, and Benson guys who are stuck at
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: zero here?
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think that is the– you've got
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: to have something good happen.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: You need a game where all of a sudden, you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: a couple of those guys get.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: On the board, whether it's a deflection, whether it's, you know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: just a lucky goal that goes off you.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: But they need something good to happen.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: You know, when I say they're squeezing six, it means,
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: you know, they're not making plays that I think they
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: can normally make.
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: One of the things Tej said a lot, we've really
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: got to get to the net, play ugly, play dirty.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: How does this team have to do that consistently? Yeah, well,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: I thought we started tonight.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: There was some net front scrums, and there was some
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: net front opportunities. We had a couple net front drives
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: that we had guys going back post, I thought that
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: part was better, and that's the part we talked about.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: We got to improve, you know, our drive away from
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: the puck.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: You know, we probably had five or six plays where
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: we get to the top of the circle and we're
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: looking east-west instead of, you know, driving, slipping to dot
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: lane and getting a look at the net.
• 20:10
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• 20:12
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• 20:15
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• 20:19
  Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Sabres. There was Sabres head coach Lindy
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Ruff on the Wild Bills out of repair post game. Jonathan, again,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Lindy there, I felt like was a little bit more
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: positive than I thought he would be tonight. Talking about,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you know, how he thought that they competed better in
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that first period. I know you had mentioned that the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: first period wasn't that bad. but the things I took
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: away from it, he said that they need to be
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: more connected. Guys need to understand like what the assignments
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: are completely. And when it comes to the top guys
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that a lot of them still have zeros on the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: score sheet, they just need something good to happen. A
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: puck bounce off of them, you know, get a deflection
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: goal just to get them out of the rut that
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: they're sort of in over the last four or five games.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, like we talked about Jack Quinn being
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: off to a hot start and that's kind of cooled off,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: but you know, looking at Zach Benson, No goals. Josh Norris,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: no goals. Josh Doan, no goals. I mean, until we
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: start to see these guys all step up and find
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the net in some way or another, how are they
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: going to win games? At first it was, oh, they're scoring,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: but now they can't keep the puck out of their net. Well,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: that's not been the case. Again, going back to the
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Dallas game, would it have been nice for Lukuden to
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Have a save or two?
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Could Colton Ellis have squeezed the pads a little bit
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: tighter on that five-hole goal that was kind of a backbreaker?
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: But that's not the reason that they are losing games.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: There is no momentum being built off. It doesn't matter
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: whether they score first or they're chasing the game the
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: whole game. You know, we saw Tage come out and
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: get the first goal, and then they immediately just cough
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: it back up, and it's like, you know... There is
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: no more positive momentum being built. And I think it's
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: the inability to roll four lines, right? Even through the
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: first couple of games, when the Benson Quinn Oslin line
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: was going, it kind of felt like that was the
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: only line that was going. Thompson's line was kind of going.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: So maybe you could roll two, but until you can
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: start rolling four lines, even the fourth line, like how
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: many times last year, late in the year was like
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Beck Malenstein's line just getting in hard on the four check,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: cycling the puck, banging bodies, being noticeable, noticeably wearing down
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: whoever was on the ice. And just even that's not
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: really happening right now. And again, you know, if Lindy's
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: going to talk about connectivity, they had four preseason games
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: and 75% of the lineup didn't play in more than
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: two of them. Where are you expecting connectivity? If we
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: don't have the ability to continuously roll these lines and
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: over and over again together. So like, to me, I
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: don't think I would have changed anything from the Minnesota
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: game to the Dallas game. And I know there was
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: a few lineup changes that night and, and between those
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: two games, then you throw the lines in a blender.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Like I say today, where are you going to, I know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: you know, chemistry can spark at any time and whatever,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: but where are you going to find the connectivity, the
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: consistency of, that's going to allow this team to roll
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: all four lines. If we're just constantly putting things in
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: a blender.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: It's hard to find line chemistry right after just a
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: morning skate practice.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: And you know, you're looking at the box score tonight
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: on the, on the YouTube version. If you're just listening
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: in audio, like Oslin had four shots tonight. He led
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the team in that department, like, or five shots, excuse me.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: But like, other than that, like Thompson had six shots. He,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: he ends up with the power play goal, which we'll
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: talk about, but like they're, they just weren't generating enough. Like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: like you mentioned Benson, nothing. Uh, one shot, uh, you've
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: got don't two shots on that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Um, you know, Norris continues to be a guy that
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of people were asking, you know, what is,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: what exactly is, is he doing on this team right now?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: He didn't have a shot on goal tonight. Minus one,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you know, it was the top line center tonight. He
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: won 10 draws and only lost five. So he was
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: good on the dot. But other than that, like their
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: top guys, aren't creating right now. They're not, they're not
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: being able to generate those chances. And it's leading to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the results you're seeing in the last two games, one
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: goal in over two contests. I know they're both Western
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Conference opponents. At the end of the day, it doesn't
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: really matter that much. You're going to be getting into
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the heart and the meat of potatoes of your schedule
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: right here, going up against a lot of Atlantic Division
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: opponents that are going to mean a lot more than
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: just a one-off game in October against Minnesota, Dallas, and Utah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: But again, it's just not a recipe for success, especially
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: when you've got such an important stretch coming up next
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: week and the week after with so many divisional games
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: coming up. You can't expect results from the way that
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: they're playing right now and then you're just going to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: put yourself behind the eight ball because you're going to
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: lose in division games and that's when you really have
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: to start panicking yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: And you know there is an argument to be made
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: that maybe going on the road could be the best
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: thing for this team getting away getting some bonding going
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: getting everybody back going out for beers going out for
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: dinners all the things that they bonded over last year
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: that really brought the team together A road trip can
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: lead to some of that. But again, if we're talking
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: about the on-ice interconnectivity of the team, they got to
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: play together. I want to see Yuri Kulik up the middle.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: As much as I dog on the fact that this
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: team can't win face-offs, Josh Norris won 10 face-offs today.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: What did it do for him? What did it do
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: for us? I don't really feel like that was a
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: big advantage. You got Justin Danforth jumping over the boards
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: to take a face-off on a penalty kill just to
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: jump right back off and get Benson out there. So, like,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: at some point here, you just need to narrow down
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: some consistency. I am the first guy to always complain
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: about American players, but, like, are you not on the
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: phone with Detroit and being like, what's it going to
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: take for Larkin? Like, Larkin, Thompson, top line, you pair
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: those two up, Put whoever on that left side. Maybe
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: it's Kulik. Maybe it's somebody else.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's Benson up there being a rat, stirring things up.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: But you got to find somebody who is going to
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: hold it down. You got to find somebody who's going
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: to take Josh Norris because one of the reports that
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: came out was a center was being offered to Winnipeg
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: for Hellebuck, who is often injured. And Winnipeg had concerns
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: about that. Well, to me, that's two guys. That was
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: either Noah Oslin or Josh Norris and the fact that
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: they extended Noah Oslin makes me think it wasn't him
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: that was being offered in that trade. So I, I
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: just think that Yarmou's got some work to do. And
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I think really what is on this right now is
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: that Yarmou has work to do. Cause even the power
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: play I thought was better tonight. So they're coming along,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: like they're making strides on that. I thought their entries
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: were better. They were getting pucks on net, maybe a
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: little bit of goaltending, a little bit of block shots,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff kind of halted them. Obviously,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Tage scores a power play goal, but it didn't really
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: feel like a power play goal when he's just carrying
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: the puck across the blue line himself and banking it
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: in off the goalie in one play. So there is
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: work to do on this roster, on this team, and
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: on these lines. And until you do that, I don't
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: really know what the answer is. And even from the defense,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I didn't think the defense was any problem tonight on anybody.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Like I'm looking at Louis Kravier as a dash too.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't even remember him being on
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: the ice for goals. Like, it's not like, Oh, he
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: did something wrong that made it stand out. Like maybe
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I'll go back and watch and see, Oh, maybe that
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: was his mistake or whatever. But like, And the only
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: other thing, the only thing I can say is that
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: maybe you want to see Darlene come alive a little bit.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I was pretty disappointed in Samuelson and Darlene tonight. I'm
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: not going to lie. I have some stuff written down.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I thought they had some bad turnovers. I thought Samuelson,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite Sabres. And I thought he
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: had some really just bad defensive zone coverages tonight that
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: led to some goals for Utah or even really good chances.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think 23 had his best game tonight. So
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I'll just say that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair. But when you say that, we're looking
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: at he's not negative, not positive on the score sheet.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: So those are all penalty kill mistakes. So I guess
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: we can address this, call it a special teams thing, right?
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: In terms of him being actually on the ice. I
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: get it that he's giving up giveaways and making weird
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: passes that are directionalist. And, you know, when Lindy says
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: everybody was squeezing the stick, you could see it. They're
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: just forcing things that are not there. Just play the
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: game a little bit simpler. Cycle the puck. wear a
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: team down, pass it between each other in short bursts,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: get back to the fundamentals. Cause right now they're fundamentals.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Even five on five are not necessarily there. It is
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of, I don't even know if you can
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: call this river hockey, the way it's going. It's not
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: like it's exciting and they're bursting with speed. And then
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: it's quick in the neutral zone and like turning over pucks.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: They're just kind of lost there. And again, I just
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: think it's a chemistry issue. Even, you know, you say
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Samuelson's making these plays and forcing things, Dolling kind of
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: right there as well. Half the time, do they even
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: know which centerman they're.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Supposed to be looking?
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: For when you have seven to eight of them taking
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: draws at any given point and everybody's switching roles and whatever? Which, again,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I believe that everybody is talented enough on this team
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: to make that work in the long run. But if
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: you don't stick with one thing for like at least
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: two weeks... especially at the start of the season with
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: no training camp, how are they ever going to figure
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: it out?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And I get, if there's injuries, you have to, but they, they,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: they haven't really had a key injury yet in the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: last few games, at least. And we're like, why are,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: why are the lines going in a blunder for that?
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I just, I saw some people today when those lines
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: got posted, you're saying this isn't going to work. And
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: clearly it didn't tonight. And we saw the result of that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And to your point on the, the trade front, I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: think the Sabres have a much bigger issue right now
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: than a number one goaltender. Cause I think Colton Ellis
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: tonight played pretty well in the net. I get, again,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: four goals on 30 shots. Isn't going to look glamorous,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: but I thought he really held his own tonight. And,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you know, people want to dog on Luke and in
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: all the time as well. But I went back and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: watched some of those Dallas highlights and Buffalo just didn't
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: play good at all. You know, in front of them
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: in that game. So I know people want to dog
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: on the goaltending, but right now I'm with you. I
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: think they need another top line forward more so than
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: they need to go get Connor Hellebuck right now.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: And, You know, I don't think Jarmo.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Should be spending those assets to go get the guy
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: from Winnipeg at the moment more so than they need
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: a top line forward that right now. I mean, we
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: talked about the Dones and the Bensons and those types
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: of guys, Kulik and and Helen who said we're going
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to replace Alex Tuck. Right now, they're missing a guy
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: like Alex Tuck, and we'll have to wait and see
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: how long it takes for somebody to fill into that role.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, here we go, it's hockey night in Buffalo. Hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Let's quickly go over the game stats tonight brought to
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  Speaker 1: project today. And yeah, you can see that their shots
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  Speaker 1: 30 to 24. But again, Buffalo got a lot of
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: garbage time shots because they only had 11 through two periods.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: So take that one with a grain of salt. The
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: hits 33-17 in favor of Utah, you mentioned Indiana. They're
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: a physical back-end type of team. I liked what I
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: saw from their defensive core tonight and the way that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: they grinded and battled and blocked shots. Faceoff wins 32-28
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: in favor of Utah. Power play opportunities, the Utah Mammoth
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: were 2-5, Buffalo 1-4. They finally got their first one
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of the season, the last team in the National Hockey
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: League that hadn't scored a power play goal. And then,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: as you can see, block shots, 23 for Utah, 19
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: for Buffalo, 19 giveaways to 15 in favor of Utah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: In that sense, Buffalo only had one takeaway tonight.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: So that's obviously something that they want to improve on.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: But to me, I mean, they got the power play goal,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: but I thought their second and third power plays were
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: atrocious tonight. And Utah obviously had a couple of power
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: play goals that put this one out of reach.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, again, I thought the power plays, at
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: least entering the zone, was a little bit better.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: The entries were better.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Penalty kills were a bit rough at times, a little
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: bit chaotic. But I think the stat that jumps out
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: to me the most here, and this is, I think,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: partially an analytics thing, and I think analytics explain this
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: kind of thing a little bit better. But did it
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: feel like the Sabres really had the puck all that much?
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Did it feel like they had a ton of possession
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day?
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: No.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: So then why the hell did you get out hit
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: by 14? if you don't, or, you know, not even
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: that it's, what is it?
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: 17.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I am trying to do quick math here. I'm like
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: looking at it, but like 16, 16. Thank you. Wire.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: If you're not carrying the puck, how are you not
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: hitting people more and making more contact? You know, like
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: a 33 to 17 hits side of things make sense
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: in the game. Like we saw on Tuesday where even
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: though Minnesota got out to a lead, I would still
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: say Buffalo was the better team. had better opportunities, carried
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: the puck more, cycled the puck more, worked the puck
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: more in the Minnesota blue line or in the Minnesota zone,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: at least from my eye test side of things. So
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: tonight when it doesn't really feel like the Sabres ever
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: really have possession. And if they do, the play is
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: like over like that. They're not generating a cycle game
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: of any kind. How are they getting out hit like that?
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: And I'm not even saying that like, oh, Buffalo's got
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: to have a heavy. You know, there's obviously that conversation
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: that goes around. Buffalo's got to get heavier. They got
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: to hit more. Sure, you can make that argument. But
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: to me, when I look at those two numbers, I
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: just feel like Buffalo's got to find a way to
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: get hit less, carry the puck more to be deserving
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: of those hits, or at the very least, start hitting
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: back they got to do something in that category because
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: that that's that's a part of this game that i
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: just i don't think is going to be acceptable long
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: term uh they've got to figure something out here like
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: you know even the face-offs okay we can i can
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: live with the face-offs penalty minutes were a little bit
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: tough you know obviously that 10 minute I never even
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: had any idea that that could be a thing where
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: a goalie could throw a stick over the glass and
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: get a 10 minute misconduct, not have to leave the game.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: And there's no penalty go up on the board. That doesn't,
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: that none of that made any sense. Like If I
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: was a goalie, I would just do that every single
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: game just to piss somebody off. Like there's one of
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: my teammates could afford to sit for 10 minutes. No problem. Like,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: so anyways, I, I just, I look at those stats, Brandon,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: I'm just, I'm beside myself on trying to make sense
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: of what we saw and how they could be out
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: hit without ever seeming to really have the puck. And
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: maybe the analytics would show that maybe they carried the
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: puck and held the puck a little bit more than
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I even realized, but it just, it didn't feel like they,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: if they were carrying the puck, it didn't feel like
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: they did much with it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: No, it's warranted in those those criticisms. I take away
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: from it that Utah had some big blocks tonight. I mean,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I know Buffalo only had 11 shots through 40 minutes,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but Utah did a really good job of clogging the middle.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: They knew what Buffalo's game plan was. They knew what
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: they were trying to do on the power play. And
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I thought they did a really good job. I was
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I was really impressed by Utah's team defense tonight.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Like again, like.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: A team like Buffalo that is supposed to be playing
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: high tempo only had 11 shots through 40 minutes. So the, again,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: like that means that you're blocking a lot of shots.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You're not giving them a lot of opportunities on the inside.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: And even like you mentioned, Tage's power play goal was he,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: he gained the zone on the right wing. He took
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: a shot and it went off the mocha's arm and
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: in short side, like that was an ugly, ugly goal.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like the Sabres had cycled the puck around,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: had a wide open one timer for Tage and that
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: in his wheelhouse there, you know, on the, on the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: left circle, like they didn't do any of that.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: It was just a kind of a lucky play.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: That caught the Melka off guard with a good, you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: seeing eye shot from, from page from a sharp angle
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: and it went in.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: So like, again, like you mentioned, the zone entries were good.
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: The zone entries were good, but then I felt like
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: once they were getting the puck around, you know, it
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: was either getting blocked or they didn't know exactly where
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: they wanted to go with it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Next.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I watched Utah's power play. It looked crisp.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: They had an identity. They knew what they were wanting
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to do. It all runs through Clayton Keller. He gets
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the puck down low and then they try to figure
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: it out. You know, cross ice passes, Dylan Gunther's a
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: unit on the power play for them. I know he
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: didn't get on the board tonight, but, This Utah power play,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I watched them move the puck around. They moved it decisively.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: They moved it quickly. And they got pucks to the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: net and obviously caught the Sabres defenders in some bad
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: positions tonight, which we'll get into in the scoring summary.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: But to me, I think the special teams battle.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Was a clear indicator of why this game went into
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Utah's favor, not just the five-on-five play.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm right there with you. It was all
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: about special teams and lack thereof on Buffalo's side. And
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: I just, I think their feet for not moving on
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: the power play the way they needed to, or on
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: the penalty kill the way they needed to. Again, on
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: the power play, like I, I still, yes, the, the cycling,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: the shot attempts, the things that were happening, at least
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: it felt like by the last two power plays, it
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: felt like they were going for the ugly plays. You know,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I saw Noah Oslin get down towards the blue paint.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: I saw Jack Quinn get down towards the blue paint
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: and try to jam something in. And it just felt like, again,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: nobody was there to help, you know, with a rebound
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: or with something that could have possibly, you know, played
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: a role in getting a puck in the net at
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: the end of the day. Like, I just think that
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: they're just a little out of position. Everybody's trying to
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: figure things out. I thought Zach Benson had a near
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: whiff that probably should have gone in on one of
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: the power plays.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Everything about this game was just incredibly frustrating because it,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: didn't seem like there was any explanation as to why
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: things were happening the way they were happening from basically
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: the morning skate on where again, the lineup changes were,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: they didn't make sense to me.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I mean, once we saw those lines, it
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, this is a, this is going to
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: be either one or two waves tonight. And it obviously
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: went in the wrong direction tonight. So we'll move on
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  Speaker 1: that there with the scoring summary, Jonathan, the Sabres actually
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  Speaker 1: scored the first goal in this game eight minutes in
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: that Tage Thompson, you know, just kind of quick zone
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: entry and, you know, just rushed down the right wing,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: shoots it off of Amelka, goes short side. Again, those
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: are the goals Buffalo needs, especially when they hadn't scored
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: a power play goal coming into the game.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: You know, you felt like a bounce like that. Okay.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: You know, Tate gets, gets.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: One there and maybe this is the one, the spark
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: that Buffalo needs to kind of get going here, but
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: it was really their only goal of the game. Obviously
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: it was, but you know, what were your takeaways from
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the first part of the first?
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: I thought the Sabres were rolling. I thought they looked
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: pretty good. Like, you know, it was even, it was
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: going to be kind of felt like we were headed
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: for another Minnesota game where it was going to be
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: tight checking, not a lot of opportunities. Everything was going
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: to be to the outside, but they were defending well.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: You get that power play goal. All of a sudden
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: you're like, okay, we got a little bit of steam.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: It's an ugly one. It's not necessarily a traditional power
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: play goal, but it's the one that you need. And
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: it's from the guy you need to be scoring goals
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: for your team. Maybe that gives them a little bit
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: of confidence. And then just you, you immediately like almost
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: two minutes later, let Utah back into the game by
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: letting Taylor Yamamoto of all players like i thought yamamoto
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: i this is just pure ignorance on my thought i
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: really thought yamamoto wasn't in the league anymore i thought
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: his edmonton time like sent him to siberia or like
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: to play in the swiss league or something i i
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: had no idea he was even in the league for
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: for utah so i have to admit that i i
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: i guess i'm just blind to what's going on in
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: the west right now but you let that guy have
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: a game he also gets a point later on on
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: the andrews legal but Like this is what I'm talking about.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: There's no momentum. There's no rolling. The Sabres at their
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: very best last year, you get a goal like that
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: from Tage, they're throwing out the fourth line and Carrick
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: and Malenstein or Malenstein and whoever are getting the puck low,
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: they're going to get some cycle going. Then you throw
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: over the Oslin line and Benson is in somebody's kitchen
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: and smashing cupboards and everybody loves what's going on. And
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden you get a greasy one
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: from Josh Norris somehow, or he gets a weird snipe
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: and now you're up to nothing. And then somebody else
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: follows that up with a three, nothing. And it just
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: snowballs down the hill. And there has been nothing at
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: any point this year that suggests that this team has
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: the snowball factor waiting to burst out. And again, I
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: come back to the consistency of the lines and obviously
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: things really get away from them in the second period.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I took away that, I mean, Tage took a penalty
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: in the first two minutes of the game.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: That obviously wasn't ideal for getting rolling, getting a good start.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Buffalo had to kill off a penalty right at the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: beginning of the game. And then Cooley gets called for
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: a hooking penalty that led to Buffalo's only power play
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: goal and only goal of the night. And then, you know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, they get the goal there. And then
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: just over two minutes later, you give up a goal
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: to Kehler Yamamoto, who in full disclosure, I had to
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: watch the Utah broadcast tonight. So that was already an
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: L on my part. And they were raving about Kaler Yamamoto,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: about coming into this game, about how he was having
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: the opportunity. I think he was one of their intermission
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: guests tonight. So the Utah broadcast was raving about this guy,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: like he was the next Leon Dreisaitl coming back into
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the lineup. But I guess you have to do that
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: when you're the broadcast of that team. But I mean, again,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: he gets the goal there. I didn't like the way
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that this goal went in. Utah gained the zone immediately
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: with the dump in from the red line.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I think it was Sergeyev. He dumped it in from
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: the red line.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: It hit off of Ellis's pad, and it went right
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: to a Utah player who found Yamamoto, which I think
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: was Logan Barrett Hayden, because I'm looking at the score
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: sheet now. Sergeyev dumped it in from the red line,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: hits Ellis. Hayden picks it up and gives it to Yamamoto.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: The Sabres were scrambling around. I don't know what they
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: were doing. I don't know if they were just caught
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: off guard by that play. But again, like to leave, yeah,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I mentioned like Kaler Yamamoto was wide open there. I
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: think that was their second power play unit. It wasn't
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: even their top unit that scored. So that also is, uh,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: is obviously, you know, not ideal when you give up
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: a goal to the second power play unit, uh, when
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: you've got Barrett Hayden and Kayla Yamamoto connecting on a
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: goal on a dump in on a play, just, it's just,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: it's unacceptable to me.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Like I'm going and looking at the, uh, the, who's
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: on for that. Cause You know, I'm obviously fixated on
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: the lines and I'm fixated on how things are going
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: here in terms of, you know, what we're seeing from
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: consistency wise and this problem with having too many guys
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: playing center and not enough, you know, actual decisions being
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: made about what role everybody has on their particular line.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Like if I go to this goal visualizer here, I'm
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: going to go and see that for Buffalo, you've got
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Mets out there, you've got Krebs, you've got Danforth, and
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: you've got Norris. So you have three different centers who
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: could be playing on that play. So Danforth's just coming on.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: You have Tage who's just getting off. You've got Krebs
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: coming off for him. It's the middle of a line change.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: And they just got exposed. They got exposed for the
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: fact that they probably, I don't even know if you'd
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: call this a sloppy line change. You know? But to me,
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: like even, you know, again, I'm looking at the visualizer.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: So it's here. I'm looking at Josh Norris. You got
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: guys changing behind you. Why are you giving the defense?
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: who's coming out of his own zone so much time
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: and space? That's the one thing I can like point
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: to on that particular goal that sets it all up
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: where it's like nobody knows their role. Nobody's sure who's
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: coming over the boards to play what position it seems like.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: And until they figure that out, until they start isolating,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: locking in who does what, I feel like you're going
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: to see sloppy goals like that happening regularly. And again,
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you want Crevier-Metsa as your pair
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: that's out there while you're having a sloppy line change
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: from a forward standpoint.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: Nope.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: And Crevier had to make a really nice play on
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: a defensive two-on-one after a bad turnover as the Sabres
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: were trying to enter the zone late in that period,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: or Utah would have scored again. So another sloppy play there,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: but Crevier, I know he had a tough play later
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: on in the game, but it was pretty much out
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: of reach at that point. But he makes a good
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: play in the first period and the Sabres are out
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: of it. One, one, you're thinking, okay, you know, this is, again,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: it wasn't great. And the way that that goal went
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: in for Utah was pretty atrocious, but it was what
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: it was. And, and, you know, they've got their tide
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: going into the second period. You're like, okay, here, here
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: you go. Ellis made a couple of big saves early
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: in that, in, in that first shift for Utah, they
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: came out flying. And then Simashev, he walked around Darlene.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Darlene was flat footed. He walked around him and I
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: was like, man, that was not a good look for,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: for the Sabres captain. And then on the next shift,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the Sabres took a hooking penalty from Josh stone. And I'm,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking like, oh man, this is the second
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: period could not have started off any worse. In my opinion,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I know Josh don't want to have a big game
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: against his old team. But again, just not, not an
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: ideal hooking penalty on that play. And then the Sabres
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: big blocks in front of Ellis on the power play. Again,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I mentioned their puck movement, you know, was really elite
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: in this game. I really liked what I saw from
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: the Utah power play. And then, you know, just, I
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: don't know. I can go right to the goals because like, again,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: like what else do we have to talk about here tonight?
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Other than that, I mean, Samuelson and Metza was the
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: issue that I had on that second goal for Utah
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: at the 15, 23 mark Schmaltz gets the goal from
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Cooley and Keller. But again, this was all a play
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: that Keller's got the puck on the right flank. He
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: gets it down low to Cooley beside the net. And
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: for some reason, Metza and Samuelson are not connected on
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: the defensive zone coverage. If you go back and watch
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: this goal, I don't know where they were on this
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: play about who was taking who on this play, but
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Cooley's able to just walk right up and then just
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: find Schmaltz cross crease for one of the easiest goals
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: you're ever going to find cross crease on a power play.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I just felt like the Sabres box got you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: disconnected there. And it led to this goal that was
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: eventually the game winning goal because Buffalo didn't score again.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: The second goal was the game winning goal. But I
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: just didn't like what I saw there from the Sabres
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: killers on that particular play.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know how many more times I can come
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: on this show and talk about Zach Metz is not
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: a penalty killer. Like that's part of the issue. Like
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: we can be hard on Samuelson. Like I'm looking at that.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Samuelson definitely lets I think it was Schmaltz get open
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: backdoor for that. But, you know, I'm watching Metza just
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: watch the puck go back and forth like he's I mean,
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: you know, he's not standing still, but I look at
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: the guy and he's just not going to be big enough.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: He's not going to have the reach. He's not going
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: to have the long enough stick to interrupt when three
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: guys are basically forming a triangle and passing it back
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: and forth to each other around him. Whereas a guy
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: like Timmons or even Crevier, they're going to be able
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: to put a stick out in the lane. They're going
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: to be able to do something that's going to make
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: at least the pass back and forth a little bit harder.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe that helps stabilize the box on the other side
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: of it. And maybe Samuelson doesn't lose a guy, you know, backdoor.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: So it's a personnel problem in terms of injury. We
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: talk about, oh, there's no injuries on the front. I still...
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: I'm hammering it. Maybe it's just that I'm partial to
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: the Thorold guy and I want to see him in
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: the lineup. But I think Connor Timmons getting back in
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: the lineup whenever that does happen for the Sabres will
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: make a huge difference on the penalty kill. And until then,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: I would be exploring any other option. Like, is Darlene killing? Like,
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: is Zellweger? You know, I know he's more of an
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: offensive mind, but like, does he have any kind of
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: size and reach advantage on Metsa? Cause you gotta get
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: Zach out of that spot. He just cannot do it.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: And they keep trying to make him a penalty killer.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: They knew he wasn't a penalty killer last year. That's
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: why we all loved him. They isolated him. They put
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: him in good spots to succeed, but he is not
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: a penalty kill guy and it needs to change. It
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: needs to stop because that is killing every single penalty
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: kill that this team has.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Two minutes and one second later, Anders Lee gets a goal,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and this one really just broke the back of the
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Sabres here because I felt like it's a 2-1 game
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: if you get it at the end of 40 minutes
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: and you've got a chance to earn a point, even
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: though you really had a bad second period, in my opinion.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: This play was weird because it felt like the Sabres
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: thought they were going to get a penalty because they
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: had tripped. I can't remember what player it was for
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Utah that was trying to come out of the zone,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: But he essentially got tripped up. And it looked like
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the Sabres and the players on the ice maybe stopped
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: playing because they thought it was going to be a
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: tripping penalty. And the puck goes back to Kozak, you know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: in the slot. And he just throws a meatball right to,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I guess it was John Marino. And he finds Anders
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Lee down low wide open. And like Crevier just was not,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I guess they just didn't see Anders Lee get in
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: behind the defense. Crevier wasn't able to get back. And
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Anders Lee is able to just shovel that one in.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: he's like right in the crease on Colton Ellis who
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: made a couple of big saves earlier in the, in the,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: in the period on Clayton Keller. So like, I'm not
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: blaming Colton Ellis on this at all, but it's just
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: like a bad turnover. You know, what should have been
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a penalty wasn't called that you get the puck, you
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: give it right back to them. You're trying to transition
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: out of the zone. You can't do it. And then
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: you leave a guy wide open behind your defense. Like
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: it was just the whole play was a disaster and
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: it led to the, obviously, you know, backbreaking goal for
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Buffalo here. Cause they gave up two goals in two
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: minutes and one second. And then that's your ball game really.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: To me, I'm watching the visualizer here, and it almost
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: looks like, you know, you mentioned the penalty aspect. That's
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: Malenstein coming across and separating the Utah player from the puck. Kozak,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: he has two choices to make because it looks like Malenstein,
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: as much as they maybe gave up on the play,
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: it also kind of looks like you get the impression
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: that Carrick and Malenstein were almost seeing that they could
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: expose the Utah player because only Uyghur was back, and
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: I think Uyghur was getting ready to make a change, actually,
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: as that goal went in. So, like, to me, it
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: looks like Malenstein and Carrick almost want to blow the zone,
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: and Kozak just makes the wrong pick. He picks it
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: to try to throw it up the middle to Carrick,
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: and instead, you had Malenstein there on the wing. Like,
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: you could have easily used him as a safety valve,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: and even if you guys do think you have some
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: kind of penalty or something going on, okay, Malenstein touches it.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: He's all alone.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: He's safe. right?
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: It's the safe play. And again, Kozak has not had
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: a lot of ice time this year has not really
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: played all that much. So is it rust on his part?
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: Is it some him forcing things? Is it him not
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: having that game shape to be able to make the
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: quick read, which was Malenstein on my right, as opposed
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: to Carrick right ahead of me and trying to chip
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: it past two guys bearing down on me.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: So I understand that you're frustrated with, with, the fact
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: that there's a player getting behind the defense on this situation.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: But to me, I just look at Kozak just needs
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: to make a better decision there, especially when you have like,
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: there is a world I'm watching this and I'm getting
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: so frustrated because there is a world where kid Sam
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Carrick's on a breakaway there, or it's a two on one.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: And like, yeah, you don't want your fourth line guys
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: to be the guys going down on a two on one.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: But when they're Beck Malenstein and Sam Carrick, both those
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: guys have the ability to finish. Like, So it was
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: just a tough thing. And again, it comes back to that,
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: you know, Lindy's going to use the word connected. I'm
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: going to use the word connectivity in the sense that
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: they don't have a unit that is connected to make
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: plays and know where everybody's going to be at any
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: given point.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, the Sabres start another third period. Well,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: they start another period in this game, taking an early
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: penalty from behind the net. They take one here. Marino
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: ends up getting the power play goal again. This was
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: their second unit again, coming through with a goal here,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: which just in my opinion, like can't happen. John Marino
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: takes a point shot. And I think it was Yamamoto,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: your favorite player in this game came through with a
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: drive by right at the last second, kind of fooled
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Colton Ellis's eyes a little bit. And it went five
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: hole on him. This is probably the only goal I'd
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: want him to have back on the night to be,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I don't think that Colton
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Ellis was an issue in this game tonight. He came
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: up with some big saves in the, in the middle
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: period when Buffalo was really struggling and, But John Marino
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: puts it out of reach here with the 4-1 goal.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I did want to mention on one of the power
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: plays that the Sabres had, Tage had a one-timer that
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: was stopped. That was a big save by Vemelka. And
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: then Sabres had a chance on an opportunity right beside
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the net. They were trying to get the puck cross-iced
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: to Jack Quinn, and they just couldn't do it. And
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: then Quinn ends up taking a hooking penalty on Kraus,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: who made the defensive play. And the Sabres took another
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: penalty 200 feet from their net on the power play.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: So just not a great third period there. And then,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: you know, it obviously led to a 2-4-1 result there.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: But two power play goals for Utah. And that was
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the difference in the game. Yeah, definitely.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: That was everything. Those two goals were truly everything in
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: this situation, unfortunately. And I mean, I look at how
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: the power play went for the Sabres. I think there
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: was opportunities, but they just didn't really give themselves a
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: lot of life and a lot of love and a
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: lot of chance to do something special. And I think
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: you needed a couple of kills that just didn't go
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: your way Um, you know, again, Cole Nullis played spectacular
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: in this game for a large majority of it. He
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: gave up one backbreaking goal, but to me, that's a
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: game that shouldn't have been three one at that point. Anyways,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: where you were in the position to be giving up
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: a backbreaking goal anyways, going into the third.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: And we're looking at the hockey stack card here from
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: hockey stack cards that obviously comes out after every game
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: here that they post. And yeah, not great statistics tonight
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: from the Sabres aspect of it. Darlene ends up with
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: actually a pretty good scorecard, even though he had a
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: couple of bad giveaways, in my opinion, in this game tonight.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Crevier actually ends up with the worst at minus 4.63,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: as you can see on the left side there. Not
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: great for him. But again, when you see this sort
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: of chart distribution here, you can see why the Sabres
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: didn't exactly have a good night and why the result
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: ended up being.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: A 4-1 loss.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, so this is where like the analytics side
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: of things, like I'm sitting here going, I don't really
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: have that much hate for Zach or for, you know,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: Louis Kravier's game tonight. I know he was on the ice.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I know he's dashed to whatever. Didn't feel like everything
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: was really his fault. He kind of felt like a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: victim of circumstance. We're both kind of hard and we're
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: unimpressed with Darlene's game. And yet he's the top performer
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: in terms of analytics. So to me, There's just a
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: weird disconnect that is going on throughout this lineup in
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: terms of who's generating what, who's playing where, who's doing what,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: who's able to make defenses. Am I panicking yet?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: But it's certainly clear that there was maybe an incomplete
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: grade to be handed out to Jarmo Kekalainen on the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: construction of this lineup in the offseason for them to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: have as much depth and almost... too many options and
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: not enough sure things up the middle, that's going to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: be a problem that needs to be rectified soon if
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: the Sabres are going to be anywhere close to what
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: they were last season. And again, I think the ultimate
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: litmus test is this week. You've got Florida, who is
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: not the same Florida they've been. They've got their own
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: injury problems. And then you've got Montreal twice at the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: Bell Center with a Leafs game sprinkled in the middle.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: If they go 0-4, we could be in for trouble.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: If they go 1-3, conversations are going to be had.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: They've got to try and get 500 through this week.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: And I don't see a way that they can do
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: that if they don't commit to who is doing what
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: on the forward group.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, now you look at the standings here
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: and they're behind the eight ball now, right?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're 2-3 now.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: You know, they're sputtering. The last two games have not
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: been good. One goal in two games is unacceptable, both
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: on home ice as well. Western Conference opponents, I don't care.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: You're not going to win games getting one goal or
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: one goal in six periods. It's just not it's not
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: a recipe for success. And Lindy can tell me all
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: he wants that he thought they generated more tonight. But again,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: when you when you have 11 shots through 40 minutes
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: on home ice coming off a loss. To me, that's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: just it's not going to lead to success so that
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: you're pretty disappointed there. You see you're looking at the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: standings right now. You know, it's way early. There's still
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: it's an 84 game season here, so we're not going
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: to get too wildly ahead of ourselves. And again, they
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: still have to play. They've played pretty much Western Conference
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: opponents here for the for the most part so far.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: But if they come away next week when they're playing Florida,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Montreal twice, Toronto, if you come away with an 0-4 week,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: then then we're going to start wondering what's going on
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: here with this team and if you know moves need
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: to start getting made because um yeah you can lose
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: a couple of games to western conference opponents and it's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: not going to kill you but once you start playing
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: in conference and in division that's when you're really going
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: to be in those four point swing games and we
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: know how difficult the atlantic is going to be this
• 1:03:26
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  Speaker 1: what are the results looking like right now?
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  Speaker 4: Well, first question, I feel like these are probably the
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  Speaker 4: no-duh polls tonight, but actually one is a little bit
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  Speaker 4: tighter than I thought, and that is, is a bona
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  Speaker 4: fide number one center more of a priority for Buffalo
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  Speaker 4: than a goalie? I would be in the yes category
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  Speaker 4: based on what I have seen through the first five games.
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  Speaker 4: Yes is up. 62.5 to 37.5%. So I didn't really
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  Speaker 4: think that it would be as close as it is.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was going to be like a slam
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  Speaker 4: dunk 80% thing, but obviously there's still some folks who
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  Speaker 4: are really fixated on the idea of Connor Hellebuck being
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  Speaker 4: the savior for Buffalo. But guess what? You're also going
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  Speaker 4: to have to go up against a team like the
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  Speaker 4: New York Rangers who suddenly need themselves a starting goalie. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, New Jersey probably could benefit from having a
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  Speaker 4: bonafide number one, although I think Jake Allen had himself
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  Speaker 4: another pretty quality start this afternoon. The other poll that
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  Speaker 4: I've got up here is what did you make of
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  Speaker 4: the lineup changes for the Sabres tonight?
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  Speaker 3: Your options.
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  Speaker 4: Test run for Florida. Let the kids play. Right players,
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  Speaker 4: wrong lines. Right players, wrong lines has a 0% vote
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  Speaker 4: through the show so far. Let the kids play 87.5%.
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  Speaker 4: Test run for Florida at 12.5%. So it seems like
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  Speaker 4: the fans are still a little bit divided on whether
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  Speaker 4: they would like to see a, a goaltending trade option made. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: it also seems like the, uh, you know, fans would
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  Speaker 4: love to see Helenius and Kulik back in for a
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  Speaker 4: chance to make something happen here. So I, I feel
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  Speaker 4: as though our polls are surprising in some ways, but
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  Speaker 4: also they're in that no duh category. So We'll see
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  Speaker 4: how it plays out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, yeah, you make the no argument for
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  Speaker 1: sure when it comes to the fan polls tonight, just
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  Speaker 1: not obviously going to have a lot of positive reaction
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  Speaker 1: to what's been going on with, you know, what that
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  Speaker 1: was result was. So before we get out of here,
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  Speaker 1: since 2013. Jonathan, not a lot to choose from tonight. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I would say Colton Ellis, but, uh, who are you
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  Speaker 1: going to go with tonight?
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  Speaker 4: I'll give you Ellis. I'll give you the low hanging fruit.
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  Speaker 4: I'll take my guy, Peyton Krebs doing something, trying to
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  Speaker 4: spark the team with a fight late there, uh, against, uh, against, uh, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: I always think of him as Craig Ruffet's cousin.
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  Speaker 6: Um, wow.
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  Speaker 4: Why can't I think of the defense, but hang on,
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  Speaker 4: I'll get, I'll get the name and it'll come back
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  Speaker 4: to Weger, Mack Weger, McKenzie Weger. Um, Yeah, he was outsized.
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  Speaker 4: He was outsized. He held his own in there. He
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  Speaker 4: did something to try and spark this team other than,
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  Speaker 4: you know, obviously the offense wasn't cooking. So you may
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  Speaker 4: as well try do something with the with a fight.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Peyton Krebs was a workhorse. He just
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  Speaker 4: was a little water bug out there doing his very
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  Speaker 4: best to be one of the Sabres best players. And
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  Speaker 4: I got to give him a tap for that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I liked Krebs. I mean, he wasn't afraid to go
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  Speaker 1: out there and fight with Uyghur. So you got to
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  Speaker 1: give him credit where credit's due on that end of it.
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  Speaker 1: But Colton Ellis, to me, kept the Sabres in this game.
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  Speaker 1: I think Utah could have scored more than two goals
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  Speaker 1: in that second period if it wasn't for Colton Ellis.
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  Speaker 3: So he's going to be my stick tap tonight.
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  Speaker 1: 26 to 30 isn't, again, going to be glamorous on
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  Speaker 1: the score sheet or the statistics or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought he came up with some really big
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  Speaker 1: saves for Buffalo to keep them close and keep them
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  Speaker 1: in it when they really, in my opinion, didn't deserve
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  Speaker 1: to be in this game past 40 minutes when they
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  Speaker 1: had 11 shots on that, which I keep harping on.
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  Speaker 1: But I felt like he came up with some big
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  Speaker 1: saves on Keller in that middle period, some big power
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  Speaker 1: play opportunities for Utah as well. Again, I think I'd
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  Speaker 1: want him to have the Marino goal back, but I
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  Speaker 1: know that Yamamoto came by with that last second screen.
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  Speaker 1: So it might've affected his vision a little bit for
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  Speaker 1: that puck to go five hole. But again, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's one that he would want to have back as well.
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  Speaker 1: But on the other three, I'm not going to sit
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  Speaker 1: here and say that Colton Ellis was the reason. And
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  Speaker 1: if they would have went out and got Connor Hellebuck,
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  Speaker 1: that those three goals wouldn't have went in. The Sabres
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  Speaker 1: aren't going to win. I don't care if you have
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  Speaker 1: prime Dominic Hasek on your team. You're not going to
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  Speaker 1: win games scoring one goal in six periods. And that's just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the nature of what they're going through right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't want to get too fired up about
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: it because it's Canadian Thanksgiving tomorrow. I want to end
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  Speaker 1: the show on a high note. but that is pretty
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  Speaker 1: much how I feel about that. And they just need
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  Speaker 1: to start getting offensive production from the top guys. And
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the lines need to start staying consistent
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  Speaker 1: because we have no idea what centers are playing, where
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  Speaker 1: we have no idea who's playing with who we got
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  Speaker 1: Helen news and Cooley scratch tonight. You bring in Danforth
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  Speaker 1: and Kozak. And again, my I'm going to start getting
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  Speaker 1: steam out of my ears tonight, but I just don't
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  Speaker 1: know what exactly you're supposed to do when the lines
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  Speaker 1: keep changing and from game to game and we don't
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  Speaker 1: have guys that are specific for centers right now you've
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  Speaker 1: got guys moving from wing to center lindy please stick
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  Speaker 1: with the lines next week big four games here you
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  Speaker 1: got florida you got toronto you've got montreal twice you
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  Speaker 1: need to come away with at least four points out
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  Speaker 1: of these next these next eight points that are available
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  Speaker 1: or else then we're really going to start, you know,
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  Speaker 1: pressing the panic button or somebody is going to be
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: on the hot seat because they can't come out with
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  Speaker 1: two more games like they just did against Dallas and
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  Speaker 1: Utah and home ice.
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  Speaker 4: No, I feel like I've put a quarter in you.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I think I really like
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  Speaker 4: teed a lot of this up to, to come out
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  Speaker 4: of you. So I'm sorry for that. I guess I'll
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  Speaker 4: try and be captain positive here and say that you
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  Speaker 4: tried taking the kids out of the lineup. And I
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  Speaker 4: think you were worse for it. I think you, regardless
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  Speaker 4: of how you felt about their game on a compete level,
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  Speaker 4: it sure seemed to me like Hellenius and Kulik were
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: losing the majority of their battles in the other zone
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: rather than their own zone. I know maybe that's just
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: the eye test. Maybe that's just me wanting to be
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: seeing them with rose-colored glasses on. But I think the
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: experiment didn't work. I think with no Barkov in the lineup,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: no Marchand in the lineup for Florida, I think you
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  Speaker 4: can take the chance of having those kids back in there.
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  Speaker 4: And at the very least you're hitting the road and
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  Speaker 4: you're going to have the opportunity for the boys to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: drink beers. Like Darlene said last year. So that's, I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: think we all could use a beverage or two after
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: that game. And after the last couple of games, the
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: Sabres fans. So maybe we just wrap it up and
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  Speaker 4: go to the fridge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's almost that time. And yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: got to get something figured out here real quick. I
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  Speaker 1: know Florida is more of a physical team. They're going
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  Speaker 1: to try to get under the skin of those guys
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  Speaker 1: with the chucks and things like that. And they want
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  Speaker 1: to have a little bit heavier of a lineup for
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: a game against Florida. We'll have to see how they
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  Speaker 1: go on Monday afternoon, but Jonathan, we're going to end
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  Speaker 1: on a positive here, gotten through all the postgame stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the hardest hitting question of the show. What is
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  Speaker 1: your favorite dish on Canadian Thanksgiving?
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  Speaker 4: Ooh, that is a hard, uh, You know, I would
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  Speaker 4: guess it kind of feels weird to say, but a
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  Speaker 4: fresh roll with some butter. Sometimes that's honestly like the
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  Speaker 4: low key sneaky good thing there. Otherwise, give me like
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  Speaker 4: a turkey leg. Although my mom's making ham tomorrow and
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually more excited for the ham than I've been
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  Speaker 4: in for turkey for the last few years. Maybe it's
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: because I have so much ground turkey through the week.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's a point of contention in my house, though,
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  Speaker 4: because my wife is a big turkey fan.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, ground Turkey and ground chickens, a staple for me too.
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  Speaker 1: So it's, but I am excited to, to get a
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  Speaker 1: piece of a big bird tomorrow, you know, maybe a
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  Speaker 1: leg or a wing or something with some gravy and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: some turnip, you know, with a brown sugar on top,
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  Speaker 1: some sweet potato.
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  Speaker 3: I'm all good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a big stuffing guy though. I know people
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: are going to come after me, but I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: stuffing guy.
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  Speaker 4: Me neither. You're not alone in that. Don't worry, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not a pumpkin pie fan either.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: So probably for the best, you know, being, you know,
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  Speaker 1: going to the gym as much as I do staying
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  Speaker 1: away from the pumpkin pie is probably a good thing, but, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to have for dessert tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else is eating pumpkin pie. But yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the Americans are listening and going, what are
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  Speaker 1: we talking about? Because their Thanksgiving's in November. But yes,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: us in Canada, our Thanksgiving is today. If you're listening
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: to this on Sunday or tomorrow. And then obviously with
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: the Monday, that's a holiday in the States as well.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: But it's also technically the Canadian Thanksgiving holiday. So hopefully
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  Speaker 1: the Sabres come up with a better. stay there and
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  Speaker 1: make everybody's Canadian Thanksgiving Monday more enjoyable. And they come
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: away with a big divisional victory against Florida on Monday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: I think that would, you know, cure a lot of the,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: I guess the saltiness that we have in these last
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: two games against Dallas and Utah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think Sabres fans are just looking for
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: something to be thankful for. And right now there is
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: not a lot to be thankful for, for us Canadian
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: Southern Ontario Sabres fans, but who knows, maybe by Monday
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: at 4 PM, we'll be feeling a little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully so.
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  Speaker 1: And hopefully we come back here and are, you know,
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  Speaker 1: well fed. We're well rested and we'll be back here
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  Speaker 1: again next week. We're going to have a show on
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Wednesday night. Austin, myself are going to record there and
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: then we'll be back there on the road for a while.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: So we're going to, our next post game show isn't
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: going to be a couple of Wednesdays from now against
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Flyers, but we've had a lot of content here.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: The first, well, I guess the first two weeks of
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: the regular season, Jonathan, it's been a lot of fun
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: so far. Again, check out our written stuff, armchairgmsports.com and
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: all of our social media stuff.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: We're putting up a bunch of stuff, you know, throughout
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: the week.
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  Speaker 1: You got your Friday five that obviously had a hiatus
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: this week, but, you know, a lot of fun content
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  Speaker 5: Of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got looking forward to getting into some alumni-based
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: stuff coming up down the line here and maybe looking
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: back on, Sabres history for some of those Friday fives. And, uh, Hey,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: you know what? Uh, we can put it out there too,
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  Speaker 4: on social media. If anybody's got a topic or something
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: that they want me to rank or come up with
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: a little five pack to celebrate, I'm absolutely open to, uh,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: discussing or writing about, uh, your topic for the Friday
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  Speaker 4: five as well. So, uh, looking forward to that, looking
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: forward to getting back at it, uh, next week and, uh,
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  Speaker 4: looking forward to ham for Thanksgiving tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody enjoy your Thanksgiving Canadian Thanksgiving's out there. have, have
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