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  Speaker 1: just pro A n T. In this episode of Disguise Coverage,
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  Speaker 1: it is Buffalo Bill's training camp eve. It is Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: July twenty second, meaning Wednesday July twenty third, nine am
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  Speaker 1: is when Buffalo Bill's training camp kicks off, and so
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  Speaker 1: on tonight's show, we are going to be diving into
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  Speaker 1: the top questions heading into Buffalo Bill's training camp. There's
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  Speaker 1: a multitude of different titles I could have given for
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  Speaker 1: this episode, but especially the crux of this episode is
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  Speaker 1: answering several pieces, you know, questions, concerns, position groups, under
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  Speaker 1: the radar, storylines, who are what you're most eager to
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  Speaker 1: see during training camp, A bunch of pieces and avenues
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  Speaker 1: like that as we get ready for training camp, which
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  Speaker 1: will then lead us into the preseason and then lead
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  Speaker 1: us into the regular season. So that's what we will
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  Speaker 1: be diving into in this episode of Disgui's Coverage, and
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  Speaker 1: I say we because I'm not alone in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined by the the same person who joined me
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  Speaker 1: for this episode last year. I was gonna say at
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  Speaker 1: this time, which is technically true but also probably not
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  Speaker 1: the exact same date, But who cares those details that
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  Speaker 1: people don't care about. Welcome to the show, mister Joe
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  Speaker 1: early to bed, early to rise kind of guy, so
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you staying up late night and joining me.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome show, AP, It's good to be with you. Thanks
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  Speaker 4: for having me on. I'm excited to talk training camp
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  Speaker 4: and you know the things that are burning up my
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  Speaker 4: mind right now. But of course, what we all know
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  Speaker 4: about The dis Guy's Coverage podcast is that it's the
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  Speaker 4: only podcast that gives you an equal amount of blueberries
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  Speaker 4: and every muffin. Yes, and I've I've heard you say
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  Speaker 4: that so many times, and I've I finally want to
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  Speaker 4: ask you a question about that. Okay, what is the
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  Speaker 4: amount of blueberries that's the ideal amount for a blueberry muffin?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's one.
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  Speaker 4: It's one thing to say that you get the same
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  Speaker 4: amount in every muffin, which who wouldn't love that consistency?
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  Speaker 2: But what's that number? What's that perfect number?
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  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I don't know what that Well,
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  Speaker 1: first let me I'll answer your question with a question.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know where that line is from?
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  Speaker 2: Not a clue.
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  Speaker 1: So it's from the movie Casino Robert Niro Joe Pesci,
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  Speaker 1: And essentially it's de Niro's running this casino and he's
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  Speaker 1: sitting talking over business and he gets a muffin and
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  Speaker 1: he opens it and it's just because that's just stupid thing.
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  Speaker 1: The muffin distribution is just like terrible in his muffin
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  Speaker 1: versus the blueberry muffin of the person he's sitting with.
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  Speaker 1: And he interrupts the conversation to be like, you see this,
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  Speaker 1: and the guy's like what, He's like, look at your
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  Speaker 1: muffin and look at mine. He's like, this is terrible.
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  Speaker 1: He gets up, takes the plates back to the kitchen,
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  Speaker 1: and he just goes to the chef and say it
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  Speaker 1: tells him this is unacceptable. He's like, there has to
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  Speaker 1: be an equal amount of blueberries and each muffin. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: So technically, I don't know the answer. If I had
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  Speaker 1: to put a rough ast, I would say r J
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  Speaker 1: says the correct answer is twenty seven. I would say
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  Speaker 1: I would say, I feel like a handful is too
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  Speaker 1: much because that could really overpower I think slightly less
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  Speaker 1: than a handful. So I'm gonna say like eleven eleven
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  Speaker 1: that's my answer, yeah, because I feel like if you've
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  Speaker 1: got a handful, depending on how big your hand is,
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  Speaker 1: that's I feel like that's twenty plus blueberries, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's going to overpower the muffin and it's just
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  Speaker 1: going to be too much blueberry. So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: kind of splitting that. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm thinking like
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  Speaker 1: eleven to thirteen, depending on the size of the blueberry.
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  Speaker 4: I'll have to do some research. I have to grind
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  Speaker 4: some tape. I'll have to eat a few blueberry muffins,
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  Speaker 4: do the counts and figure out, like what's what's that amount.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's an important thing for us to attack here.
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  Speaker 1: If anything, I'm actually significantly disappointing to myself for not
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  Speaker 1: having a better answer. No one's ever asked me that,
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  Speaker 1: nor have I ever thought of it. I feel, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, like kind of alluded to what you said.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get better, we'll improve from here. I'll go back,
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  Speaker 1: we'll study the tape, we'll self scout, and I'll figure
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  Speaker 1: it out.
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  Speaker 2: Mission accomplished.
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  Speaker 4: I was hoping that you would get twisted up when
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  Speaker 4: I asked that, and it happened.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought you were gonna ask me where's that from?
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  Speaker 1: And so I was like, oh, yeah, the movie Casino,
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  Speaker 1: And then you asked me how many blueberries in my head?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, b.
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  Speaker 1: I have an answer.
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  Speaker 2: I like that must have spoke to you.
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  Speaker 4: Casino must be like a big movie for you, one
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  Speaker 4: of your favorites.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it is a it's my it's my favorite, like
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  Speaker 1: mob related movie like over Goodfellas, over the Untouchables, like
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  Speaker 1: anything mob related, Godfather, anything like Casino is my number one,
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  Speaker 1: and it is in my top five, like favorite movies
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  Speaker 1: of all time.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I want it.
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  Speaker 4: When I heard you go through that and saying that,
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  Speaker 4: Robert de Niro said it, in my mind, I was
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  Speaker 4: imagining that Robert de Niro voice. Yeah, now I want
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  Speaker 4: to like see that scene.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's every even even Claude comes in the comment
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  Speaker 1: and the show is like do you know how long
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna take? Yeah, the chef is like upset, and
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  Speaker 1: de Niro's wearing like of course, like is DeNiro what
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  Speaker 1: he also wants? He's wearing this like really fine like
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  Speaker 1: suit and he's got the but he just brushes off
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  Speaker 1: the crumbs and he like the hands plate. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: See it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a really good it's it's a quality movie. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen it probably. Oh it's one of those movies too
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  Speaker 1: that like they would play on these random movie channels
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  Speaker 1: throughout like a lot of my twenties and that, so
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  Speaker 1: like I could be on the computer like all jokes
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  Speaker 1: as like I'd be on the computer like watching tape
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  Speaker 1: or doing some football lady and I have Casino want
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  Speaker 1: in the background. So I've watched it like front to back,
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  Speaker 1: focused on it easily over like fifteen times, but then
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  Speaker 1: having a play in the background, I probably watched it
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  Speaker 1: like thirty plus times.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's a that's more than I have because I
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  Speaker 2: have zero for me.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta get on it. I need you to watch
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  Speaker 1: it and then tell me what you think, because it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a huge thing.
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  Speaker 4: Now I feel like this is Josh Allen and Kyle
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  Speaker 4: Brandt's basement.
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  Speaker 2: You're giving me a movie assignment.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta get back to it. Yeah, ditch the stop
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  Speaker 1: watching like football tape and I need you to watch
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  Speaker 1: some casino tape.
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  Speaker 2: Stop watch to Miss Rachel is more moral. That's what's
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  Speaker 2: on to do right now. With the one year old.
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  Speaker 4: Mom, Mom, can there's a couple of bangers though, Like,
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  Speaker 4: well the best ones.
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  Speaker 2: Sticky bubble Gum is terrific.
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  Speaker 1: That's a banger.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah, mister Son's Son, mister Golden Sun.
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  Speaker 2: Oh not bad, right, classic Elephant? Uh what would you do?
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  Speaker 2: What would you say? Yes? La la la?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just we can keep talking, Miss Rachel if
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  Speaker 1: you want. I'm here, you want, I want to.
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  Speaker 2: Do that, which what we appreciow.
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  Speaker 4: We talked about a farming podcast, so I mean, who
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  Speaker 4: knows if we ever talked training camp.
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  Speaker 2: That's tomorrow, right? Is that tomorrow?
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  Speaker 3: I think?
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  Speaker 1: I guess I don't know who cares we're getting on
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  Speaker 1: the farm or we're going from there. Yeah, that's also
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  Speaker 1: kind of little peak for you know. I think we
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  Speaker 1: started at like nine o three, nine or four, and
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  Speaker 1: that's because Joe and I were talking offline about just
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of Oh this is good, Charles said, draft dads,
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  Speaker 1: that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Do it? Man? What's this? What's better than this?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: I like it?
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  Speaker 2: Who? I like this one?
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  Speaker 1: What did I just turn into?
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  Speaker 2: We don't know, good question.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know how we got here?
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  Speaker 4: Just and the dude you start off the pre show
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  Speaker 4: was like, hey man, we're gonna you know, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be kind of businesslike here. You know, I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 4: you out of here on time. I'm gonna ask you
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  Speaker 4: these questions I may or may not like, weave in
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  Speaker 4: my answers, and here I am talking about muffins and
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  Speaker 4: miss Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what we got here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got here.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I disguised the true you know, coverage that
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  Speaker 1: we were going with on this episode.
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  Speaker 2: It's entropy. What is that word? I never heard of?
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  Speaker 2: This word.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the guy that got hired by the Bills. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he did the project on is it safety and is
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  Speaker 4: it entropy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I believe so.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard the word.
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  Speaker 1: I just know, yeah, entropy, and I confuse it with
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  Speaker 1: the other one that it sounds like that. That's another
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  Speaker 1: science related term. I'm more of the soft sciences like
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  Speaker 1: sociology and psychology, not so much the hard sciences like
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  Speaker 1: biology and chemistry.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not any of it. Yeah, so yeah, fair science
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  Speaker 4: for me, just the science of football. Yeah, should we talk?
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  Speaker 2: Should we talk? Bills, save us? Save us?
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  Speaker 1: We could just do more, Miss Rachel karaoke. I'm down,
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  Speaker 1: but I know, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that'll be tomorrow all day for me.
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  Speaker 1: So it's fair.
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  Speaker 2: That is fair.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, we'll pivot and start talking Bill's training
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  Speaker 1: camp pieces. We've got five questions that we will be
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  Speaker 1: going through in this episode, and for those of you
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  Speaker 1: watching live and and playing at home with us, feel
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  Speaker 1: free to put into the comments your answers, your thoughts, comments, questions, concerns,
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  Speaker 1: anything and everything you got. As we go through, feel
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  Speaker 1: free to comment on our answers and our dialogue as
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  Speaker 1: we go back and forth with one another and discuss
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  Speaker 1: these questions and have an organic conversation about the Buffalo Bills,
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  Speaker 1: football in general, anything and everything. So, yeah, Joe, we'll start.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go in order from the list that I sent you,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll start with this, the question that you need
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  Speaker 1: answered the most coming out of training camp? What is it?
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  Speaker 2: And what?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to say the questions that you sent
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  Speaker 4: in advance are good questions, but there's so many answers
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  Speaker 4: that I could have given to the questions, which forces
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  Speaker 4: you to pick the one thing that's most important. And
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  Speaker 4: so I thought that was important for me to say
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  Speaker 4: right off the bat, because I my goodness, there's so
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  Speaker 4: many things I want question, so many questions I want answered,
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  Speaker 4: But I think the one that I want answered most
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  Speaker 4: is how ready is Maxwell Harriston?
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  Speaker 2: How ready.
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  Speaker 4: Bill's first round pick corner out of Kentucky. The alternative
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  Speaker 4: is Trey White and whatever's left in the tank there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think in one hand, Trey White, you're concerned,
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  Speaker 4: right the last few years have been injuries and kind
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  Speaker 4: of coming back from it and had a healthy year
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  Speaker 4: last year. But I mean the Rams signed him to
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  Speaker 4: be a starter. They gave him four games as I
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  Speaker 4: get out of town, gets to the Ravens and you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of plays in their dime package, and you don't
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  Speaker 4: love the trajectory, but you're also mindful of, hey, maybe
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  Speaker 4: a couple of years removed from the injury, maybe he
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  Speaker 4: can go right and he knows the defense and that
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  Speaker 4: type of stuff. But the reality is the excitement that
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  Speaker 4: I have for Maxwell Harston transcends any curiosity that I
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  Speaker 4: have about what's left of the tank for Trey White.
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  Speaker 4: And we've never really seen McDermott with this type of
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  Speaker 4: CB two, right, like, with not only the athletic profile
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  Speaker 4: that he brings to the table, but just the investment
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  Speaker 4: of a premium asset in a CB two. It's not
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  Speaker 4: Levi Wallace or Dane Jackson or Kevin Johnson, you know,
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  Speaker 4: or Josh Norman who was like.
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  Speaker 2: A fifth round pick.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is a legit first round player with
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  Speaker 4: a different skill set, right like athleticism for days. I've
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  Speaker 4: said this before, but you don't really watch players and
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  Speaker 4: think to yourself that that guy runs.
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  Speaker 2: A four to two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah you did with Harriston, like you watched the college saverers,
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  Speaker 4: Like that guy runs a four to two, Like you
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  Speaker 4: would say you would say, I bet he runs a
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  Speaker 4: four to three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I literally I wrote that in my notes.
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  Speaker 1: I was like four to three capable, like and I
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  Speaker 1: wrote that. Then he ran the four two and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh that tracks.
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  Speaker 4: Not surprised, like not even a little bit surprised. So
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  Speaker 4: that that athleticism shows up. And I think the Bills
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  Speaker 4: need to be more willing to be more tighter with
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  Speaker 4: their coverage shells, and Harriston's skill set affords them that opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I say things on podcasts all the time
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  Speaker 4: when you're playing against the guy like Tyreek Hill, I
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  Speaker 4: will say something like, well, nobody has a corner that
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  Speaker 4: can match steps with him. Hello, Hi, welcome, Welcome Maxwell Harriston.
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  Speaker 4: He can match steps with anybody in the world. And
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  Speaker 4: so the possibilities that exist with him, paired with Christian Benford,
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  Speaker 4: who I think the world of it just really excites me.
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  Speaker 4: And this team was bad at stop in the past
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  Speaker 4: last year. I mean EPA was bottom ten. Third downs
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  Speaker 4: were deplorable. This is your opportunity to change some of that,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm excited to see how it comes together. And
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  Speaker 4: I want Maxwell Harriston to start. I want him to
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  Speaker 4: be awesome. The word that kept coming to mind when
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  Speaker 4: watching him at Kentucky was he hunts. He hunts, man,
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  Speaker 4: this guy hunts the ball, and like, no, oh, he's
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  Speaker 4: not a big like lay the Wood tackler, but he
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  Speaker 4: he was pretty assertive, like in his when he was
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  Speaker 4: not dealing with the shoulder injury of like hey, taking
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  Speaker 4: on and being that run defender and taking you know,
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  Speaker 4: playing off contact. I love the way he played and
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  Speaker 4: so my number one question I need answered is how
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  Speaker 4: how ready is he to go? And how how soon
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  Speaker 4: is this excitement that I have going to be manifested
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  Speaker 4: in the way that he plays on the field across
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  Speaker 4: from Christian Bedford. I'm excited to see where it's at.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I think they drafted him to start, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: that's what you do with the first round pick. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, Brandon Bean was asked about that possibility and
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  Speaker 4: he said, look, if he's not ready to go, we
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  Speaker 4: like the the veterans that are in place, but he'll
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  Speaker 4: have to earn it. That'll that's true, right, He'll have
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  Speaker 4: to earn it. That's that's true for everyone in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 4: But I want to see I want to see how
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  Speaker 4: ready he is. That's that's the number one thing I
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  Speaker 4: want to answered. I mean obvious stuff like you know,
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  Speaker 4: the injuries and things like that, but like kind of
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  Speaker 4: really lasering it. It's it's how ready is Maxwell Harston.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a fair answer. And I you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know so many of the points you brought up,
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  Speaker 1: and I just I find him so intriguing of a
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  Speaker 1: prospect and his fit within this team because to your point,
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  Speaker 1: like they have not had a corner like him and
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  Speaker 1: so many people. I think Tye kind of conflated the
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: athleticism and speed that he has with what kyer Elam
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: was coming out of Florida. But kyer Realam was not
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the zone competent corner that Maxwell Harston is and Harrison's
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: ability to play in zone but then use that athleticism
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: to recover, to trigger, to close down the fluidity in
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and out of breaks. And I find that skill set
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: for you know a lot of the reasons you said
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: like so intriguing to add to this defense for what
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: it means for this year, but also just because they
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: really haven't had that a lot. And then you add
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: in the tackling piece, which I'm glad you mentioned as well, man,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I had so many people. Yeah, I put together a
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: compilation of tackles and mistackles from his time at Kentucky,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: his you know, previous year and then so two years
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: well two years ago, and then this past season, and
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I presented it without comment. So many people were coming
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: in being like, oh, you know, putting you know, you're
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: putting him on blasts or missing tackles, and I never
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: said any of that. And my thought always with him
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: and his tackling was his willingness. Willingness to tackle, similar
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to kind of blocking. Willingness is such an important piece,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Like if you are a willing blocker and a willing tackler,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: that helps tremendously. And then my biggest things were, you know,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the areas that he had to work on as far
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: as tackling were just little things like angles to the
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: ball and his or angles to the you know, ball carrier,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: his approach, and then some size and frame concerns. But
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he's going to play a little thicker and we know
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: this coaching staff can coach up corners on the run
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: defense piece, So I was like, those are I can't
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: teach a guy to have the kind of athleticism and
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: be able to run a four to two and have
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: that feel for coverage that he has. But I can
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: teach a guy you know what, you know, here's how
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: we want you to come up. Here is how we
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: want you to be as a forced player. This is
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: what you need to do when you're kind of finishing,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and then pairing that with let's give you an add
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: like five or eight pounds something like that. But then
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: on the other side of that, he's got some really
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: nice tackles and some really nice sticks on tape and
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: some forced fumbles and again all of you see the willingness.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: He's not shying away from contact, and I thought that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: was so important, But it is funny, like the idea
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: of him on the opposite side of Benford, like Benford
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: is Benford to me, I don't think he I think
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: he's an elite run like support player, but I don't
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: think there's anyone I don't think there's anyone coverage area
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: or like skill set piece aside from that where I
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: think he's like elite. I think he's above average at worst,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: but I think he's like very good at almost like
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: everything across the board, Like he's got some size, some frame,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: some athleticism, some physicality, you know, some fluidity, some speed.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: He can cover a variety of body types. You can
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: watch him bang with the bigger guys but then also
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: cover like Brian Thomas Junior and Tyreek Hill. And he
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: knows he has the foot speed and athleticism for it,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: but he also knows how to position his body to
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: cut him off and do different things. But the type
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: of corner and what you mentioned, like the type of
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: corner that he is. And then on the other side,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you just got this juiced up athletic rookie that you're
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: trying to bring along. I think like that pairing is
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: also something that I'm extremely excited for because we haven't
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: seen Even when it was Trey was in there, Tray
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: was an all pro corner and it was the technical
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: ability of Trey and then no disrespect, but the safeness
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: or the responsibility of the other corner whoever corner too was.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: This could if Harriston like works out how you envisioned
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: him as a first round corner, this could be a
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: very strong corner door for years to come. Considering Benford
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: is locked up from a contract perspective and Harris is
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: a rookie like this could just be really exciting.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're I think they're both locked in for four years, right.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, not including the hair synopsis. Yeah, I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: like that. I like that a lot. I No, I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: was going to comment on something I have, but I'll
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: save it for later in the essence of time. All right,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: next question that we got anything else on that first one,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: any other question that came close, any other thing you
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: want to put out here or do you want to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: move on to our Now.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I could talk about Dalton Kincaid and Kean Coleman and
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: if dude, There's so much I could say, But the
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: number one thing was Maxwell Harrison.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned the willingness component.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: And and the the player that when you were talking
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: about that that came to mind was CJ.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Henderson from Florida. Yeah.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Man, I have your reconcilable differences with his approach to
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: tackling like just made business decisions, Like I would hate
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: if I was his teammate.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I would, I would, I would hate him. I would.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: That's fair, I would hate him. Uh that's not Maxwell Harrison?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, no, no, no, no, no no, And I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: think that was the biggest misconception, Like having to like
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: work on your tackling to a degree isn't the same
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: as like, oh, he doesn't want to tackle. I think
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: those two things got conflated and that cannot be farther
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: from the truth. And again when he when when it
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: works for him, it's nice. Especially for being a smaller dude.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: He's got like some detonation capability. You're like, oh, okay,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and then you pair that with the coverage shops. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like it. I like it all right. Next question, The
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: biggest concern that you have going into Buffalo Bill's training camp.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Is man another one that there's a ton of good answers.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about calling it audible, and I'm not going
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: to do it. I'm stick with my original answer.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I do that all the time. I do my notes
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: so that I get into the show, and right at
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the last minute, I pivot to like something else, like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I'm taking up. But it's like you're doing a multiple
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: choice test. You go go with your first answer, don't.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Cross it out and go to yes.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Well, the thing that I feel the urgency to talk
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: about I kind of have queued up for another question.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: We'll stay the course. Well, stay the course fair.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: The biggest concern that I have going into camp is
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Cole Bishop's development.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, I have this for and for those playing at home,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be cognizant of Joe's time. Regular view
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: and watches and listeners of the show know that this
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: show tends to go very long, so I'm being cognitive
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Joe's time. I will keep my answers to the back
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: end of the show after we say goodbye to Joe.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So if anyone's like, oh, how come you're not giving yours,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I want to put that there. But yes, I have
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: this for a separate answer.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: So it's not that I don't like Cole Bishop or
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not optimistic about him.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I am, I really am.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I think the you know, Sean mcdermot's resume with safeties
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: is off the charts and we've really never seen him
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: have this high profile of a of a guy, you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: a second round pick that they tried to trade up for.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: It's this, this resume of safeties is like nobody's that
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: he turned into something, right, Like, now you got to
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: somebody that you need to turn into a somebody. And
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I think Cole Bishop had a really tough rookie season
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: with how it started a three way battle with you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: a veteran in Mike Edwards and Damar Hamlin and himself
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: and this three way battle and you know they're trying
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: to get sampling of each guy, and then you get
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: to camp and like everyone's hurt except for DeMar Hamlin
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: and so Cole Bishop just missed so much foundational time.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: You know, even Brandon Bean has recently said it would
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: be hard for a rookie at safety to come in
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and start for this defense. It's probably even more difficult
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: when you're not getting the most important reps during during camp.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: And so I think that's an important layer because you
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: know the next thing, you know, this guy starting in
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: week four out of necessity against the Houston Texans, and
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: that was rough.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Man, it was a rough game.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: But I highlight that because I think it does if
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: you like, if that's your starting point and you see
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: the end point. I don't think that he became an
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: impact player at all for the Bills as a rookie,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: but he went from a guy that I didn't think
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: was playable to okay, like the defense can survive with
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: him on the field. As a rookie, and I think
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: that's okay. I mean he's played right. It was a
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: four hundred and seventy something snaps yep, so he got,
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: you know, got his feet wet, he got you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: he started the AFC Championship game. This me meaningful, right,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: And now the opportunity for him to come into year
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: two and dude, I remember listening to him last year
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: during OTAs and he just kind of felt like he
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: was drinking through a fire hose with like learning the
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: right Like it just kind of felt that way. And
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: then McDermott when he was asked a few weeks ago
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: about you know, Col Bishop in year two and like
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: what's the most important thing, and he talked about like
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: mastering the system and allowing it because if he masters
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: the system, then we could see the true skill set
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: and then he can learn how to use the system
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: to kind of cheat right and position himself to make
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: more plays. And I want to see that happen. And
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I think so much about that transition of your last
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: college season into the All Star circuit in the combine
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: and team meetings and the.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Next thing you know, you're drafted and you got to play.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: That wasn't Col Bishop's offseason this year, it was the
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: only thing he cared about was being a safety for
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills. It wasn't how high he could jump
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: in a vertical or flying across the country going to
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: team meetings. It's a very defined focus it should have been,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: and so I'm excited to see where that positions him
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: this year to deliver on the promise of a second
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: round pick. And for me, I'm just looking for ceiling
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: for this defense and that's a big reason why I
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: picked Maxwell Harriston for my number one thing that we
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: talked about that what I need answered. It's like, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: think this defense has performed really well in the regular season.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of disappointment for the postseason.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I think there's been some injuries that have been very
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: unfortunate in some of those elimination games. But ultimately, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: want to see the ceiling of this defense elevated. And
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I think that the Bills have done the best that
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: they can with like cerebral know how guys on defense,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: but maybe they had some like physical limitations.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, with bishop.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Size and athleticism is there, So now can we get
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: the system down and like be an impact player? Because
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I think that's a piece of this defense that can
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: elevate compared to where it was last year. And I mean,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: obviously the transition from hide and ployer was always going
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: to be difficult.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't expect it to be perfect right away. But
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: now you're kind of you, you're kind of into this,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: and Taylor wraps one of the dudes, and I want
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: to see Cole Bishop come together and you know, be
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the player the Bills wrapped me in the second round.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying he can or can't do it, but
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: that's like the concern that I have because I think
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: that can mean so much for the ceiling of this defense,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: which I think needs to be elevated.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: So that's fair. I have this for the next question
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that will be answering the safety group. Is my answer
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: for that question for a lot of the same reasons
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you put. And you and I have talked about this
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: on Locked On. I've talked about it here on the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: show a bunch. I I like Rap, and again this
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: is going off of the idea in the notion that
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the safety the likely safety starting safety duo or I
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: think the one that the Bills want is Taylor Rap
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and Cool Bishop, especially with how much Taylor Rap matters
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: as a communicator on the back there. We've heard the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: coaching staff talk about it, you can see it on
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the tape, like he has become a significant vocal piece
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: for them in the secondary or just in the defense
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: in general, and as part of that brain trust there.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So you're most likely, in an ideal world for the Bills,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you're looking at a safety tandem of Rap and Bishop.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And I like both of those players in a vacuum
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: more than I do as a tandem, just because of
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: how their skill sets potentially play off of one another.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: And I've talked about like the how I feel like
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: they kind of not necessarily butt heads. But you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Rap doesn't have a has the smarts and the processing
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and the eyes to do what you need from a
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: coverage respective, but he doesn't necessarily have the athleticism or
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the rains that you like in single high instances. Bishop
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: has more of that athleticism in the juice, but doesn't
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: yet have the processing piece. And I still contend the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: further he gets away from the line of scrimmage, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: this doesn't mean he's bad or can't get better. The
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: further away he gets from the line of scrimmage. In
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: my evaluation, the worse he gets. I like him in
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the box apex player, like Big Nickel type. He might
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: be off ball, he's blitz in. He give me him
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: in the hook to curls and the flats as much
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: as possible, you know, or if he's playing, you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: if he's a line deeper, give me him as like
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a robber or that buzz safety. And so I think
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: there's questions about how he fits in the Bills defense
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: in general, Like I thought he would have been great
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: in like the Patriots defense from the past couple years,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: or the Ravens or even the Cardinals. Teams use more
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: three safety looks or try to confuse you in that regard.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: But again that doesn't mean he can't grow into this system.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But between that and then his pairing with Taylor Rap,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: where I also feel like Rap is better the closer
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: he gets to the line of scrimmage because of range issues,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: but also doesn't have the athleticism that Bishop has the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: man up against tight ends and some running backs, not
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: to mention. For my money, I think Taylor Rap's best
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: ability right now is his ability to tackle from depth,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: like the way he fills alleys and closes does not. Yes,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And I know so many people of the throat always
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: all the friendly fire, and he's always hitting his own guys.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I think that is unfortunately overshadowed. How many like sixty
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: five yard house calls he saved because him filling from
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: a single high or too high alignment coming up in
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: sticking dudes, And yeah, it's a gain of ten or
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: eleven or twelve. But if he doesn't make that sound
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: tackle he makes, it's a house call. It's you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: twelve yards and a cloud of dust type of deal.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: What do you think of the potential tandem or pairing
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: of Rap and Bishop? Because you and I also talked
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: on I don't remember what episode of Lockdown it was.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: We also talked about the idea of like, don't be
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: surprised if Derek Forrest makes some kind of noise with
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: him his skill set between the mental and the physical.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So where do you stand on kind of you know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: how you think that potential pairing meshes? Do you think
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: it's ideal?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And granted and you just spoke about that kind of
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: what Bishop needs to do and where he stands.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I see the two players very similarly, and I think
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: to really sum it up as they're just not very
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: interchangeable players, where where with Ployer and Hyde it's like,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: all right, what do you need him to do?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: They can do it.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: It's fine and one it doesn't matter, they can do
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: it all. And I don't feel the same way about
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: these players. And even with Bishop at Utah, like if
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: you were to read my report on him, it's all
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: best in low alignments, triggering.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Similar with the other him and Vaki, even Thoughvaki's are
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: running back now, they were both like just to heat
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: seeking missiles, get them closer to the line and let
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: them just murt guys.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: And I like this man coverage against tight ends, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: so I was like, Okay, that's what he can give.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But I so put him in the box and let
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: him do.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the deeper stuff, it's just like that's just not
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: where that's just not where he excels. And I agree
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: that Taylor rep Is also good at the things minus
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: the man coverage, but his ability to play in deeper
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: alignments is so much better, even though he's not nearly
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: the same athletes so exactly, which is why it's.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Such like it's such a like frustrating, Like you know
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get at here. I don't know
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: how to vitalize it. But it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yea.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're just not they're not very complimentary, they're
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: not super interchangeable. So and I think that's like most
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: teams don't have player and hide together like that's a
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: that's a rare situation. And so I think that's a
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: benefit that the Bill's had in the past that they
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: don't have right now. And so what is on the
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: menu for Cole Bishop this year? And do they ask
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: him to play in deeper alignments and Kenny like not,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think you want him as your one high guy.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: But can he be a deep split zone safety and yeah,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: you know, playing deep halves, Like I think that's going
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: to be important for him to be able to do.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I have a lot of the same questions
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: that you have. But also they had they had Taylor
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Rap like kind of in that third safety role. We
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: got that onboarding gear with Poyer and Hyde and then
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: they signed them to the three year extension and then
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: they drafted Cole Bishop, so like they made a choice
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: that this was like the direction they wanted to see
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: group to go. So for as much as I sit
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: here and say I don't think they're super interchangeable, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure they're super complimentary, the Bills completely disagree
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: with me.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: There be right, be right.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: That's fair. That's a very yeah. That's kind of been
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: like in the back of my mind as well, even
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: when it's kind of like, well, you know, like every
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: time I come to not come around the idea, but
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the thought of the crosses my mind of like, you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Rap doesn't have a lot of dead cap if they
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: decided to cut him, it really could be pretty easy.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, they love them, yeah, exactly, like
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: they love him and everything is kind of been forecasted
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: towards moving forward with him. So yeah, I just that's
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the excellent point, very excellent point. All right, next question
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: that we will be answering the position group for you, Joe,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: that you will be watching the most during Bill's training camp.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: You ever see these, uh these social media posts where
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: it's like, if I ever say this, then it's a
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: cry for help.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: If my answer to this is ever not aline d line,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: something wrong, something happened to me, call my wife, you know, check,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: do a wellness check on me, please. It's always gonna
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: be online D line, even if it's even if I
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: don't have questions.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: That's just where my eyes are.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I try to My objective at camp is I try
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: to watch the most competitive thing that's happening on the field,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: and that puts me a lot of times with aline
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: D line. I'm never gonna I'm never gonna watch receiver
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: corner one on ones over allline.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: D line one ones.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Just it's like the same thing at the at the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I always just gravitate towards like the one
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: on one battles and the trenches.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: I know gonna be Yeah, you tell me how that
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: route running went new covered Well, I mean, we'll see
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: the team stuff, but I'm always interested in online D line,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: and I think the online I don't. I mean, the
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: top nine guys are back and there's not a whole
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: lot of mystery there. But for the D line, I
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: mean there's a lot of new pieces there with Bosa
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: and Hoyt and Megan Joby and the three draft picks
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: trading up for two defensive tackles Dwayne Carter in year two. Yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I want to see that for sure. I want to
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: see how those guys are moving. I want to see
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: the combinations that they tinker with. You know, I think
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: we're gonna see a lot of games and like sim
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: pressures and you know what combinations do they like together?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: You know, when they're sending Terrell Bernard and Matt Molano
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: on blitzes, like who are they working with, You're gonna
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: get some really good indicators based on that. So oline
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: D line is definitely but mostly D line is where
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: my eyes will be. But maybe this year more than usual,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: I probably will want to watch the receivers and corners
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: because of I mean I talked about Maxwell Harriston. We're
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: gonna get my next two talking points are gonna be
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: rooted in some receiver stuff, and I think that's a
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: really important layer to this team's success in twenty twenty five.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: But this D line is is to me, it's been
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: the inability to get organic pressure on my homes. I mean,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: that's the biggest problem going right now. I want to
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: get a feel for where that's at.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Very fair, I you know, my my answer, as I
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: alluded to you know previously, again, I'm gonna talk about
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: this more in depth, you know, once we send Joe
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: on his way. But my answer here was the safeties.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: But that's in part because I had multiple other answers
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: here that involve the defensive line.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: So much.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: And I think for me, a lot of it, a
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: lot of my questions some can be answered in training
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: camp for the defensive line. A lot of it is.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately for me, I feel I'm going to be answered
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: in season. Like my biggest one is still how do
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: they mitigate displacement on the interior against the run? Like
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: do they keep getting knocked backwards and left and right
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: like they did last year for these big gashes? Like
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: how do we see that rotation inside? But again, we're
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: gonna see that more when the bullets are live come
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: regular season. But we'll get some medicators during training camp.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: And then you mentioned that was.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: The nicest way you could have said, what are they
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: gonna do about their d tackles getting.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Blown off the ball all the time? Man?
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how are they gonna mitigate displacement? Come on, man,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: let's call it what it is. That's fair.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got blown off the ball a lot. And
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I still maintain the phrasing I used in season last
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: year that I'm still using is the best way for
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the Bills to stop the run last year was gamescript
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to score yes and make teams be like, oh crap,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: we're down twenty one. We got to stop running the ball.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: If it was close, and teams were able to run
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the ball, they weren't in trouble because the only way
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: they could stop the run see the Rams game for instance,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: The only way they could stop the run was to
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: load the box, gap out and win with numbers, and
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: then that would put them at a coverage disadvantage in
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: terms of what they could get to and what they
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: looked like. And even the Lions game is a good example.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: The next week they got so beat up against the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: run with the Rams that the next week against the Lions,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the very first play, there's like nine guys in the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: box and Cole Bishop makes that tackle because you could
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: tell they were like, we're not gonna get run on.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: It's just not and Detroit was almost kind of like, well,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: we're gonna try and run on you. And the Bills
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: had the numbers advantage, and before you knew it, the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Bills had a ton of points on the board and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the Lions were like, well, we're only gonna be able
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: to run at fifteen times because we're down a bunch,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: let's pass the hell out of the ball. And they
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: ended up making it close at the end. But between
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: game script and gapping out, that was the way the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Bills were able to stop the run, and gapping out
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: at times would present some problems based on the type
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: of front and interior that they have and being a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: one gap penetrating type of front, so on and so forth.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I am worried about that, espcially because they
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: just they leaned into more of what they have already
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: been instead of getting more run stoppers on the inside.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: They were like, Nope, we're leaning into Larryogan Jobi, Nope,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: we're leaning into t. J. Sanders. Like they leaned more
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: into pass, rush and penetration and you know, getting through
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: your gaps and create and that can work. You can penetrate,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you can slice, you can create, have especially if you're
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: parent it with stunts and games and all this stuff.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: But all the stunts in movement does have a risk
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: reward nature to it, and at the end of the day,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: somebody other than Daikwan Jones is gonna be able to
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: have to handle a double team and not get displaced
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: on duo where team's just like we're gonna run duo
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and run it down your throat and knock you off
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the ball. And not at Oliver for as much as
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: he's undersized, he'll drop the knee and reduce the service
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: area and battle against the run. But I don't want
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: my two hundred and ninety pound defensive tackle to have
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: to battle against double teams all the time. But guess
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: what the guys behind him are also in that mold,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: just a little bigger. And then your second level is
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Matt Malan or Terrel Bernard and Tarren Johnson twenty five
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: pounds bang, And all of a sudden you get into
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: a spot where the spine can be compromise and teams
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: can be like, well what would would We're just gonna
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: keep running the ball at you because we don't think
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: you can stop. And then like, okay, well let's put
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: eight and nine in the box and it's like, all right,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: now do you hold up one on one on the outside,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: do you get gash to play action? So on and
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: so forth. I think it could be a potential chain
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: reaction of negativity. Yeah, so I and again I want
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: to see what it looks like in camp because the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Bills hole line is good and we know they can
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: people move in a variety of ways.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: But I.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to use Baltimore as a Week
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: one example because Baltimore is a unicorn and they run
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the ball and everybody.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Show up with two hundred yards rushing every game.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Correct, that's it. So I'm not gonna come out of
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: that game and be like, see there it is. Everything's
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: on fire.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I expect in Week one for the Baltimore Ravens to
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: get one hundred and seventy five plus rushing yards against
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: the Bills.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Like if I'm the Ravens, like your
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: game plan should going into that should be like Lamar
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: passes the ball, I don't know, like twenty one or
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: twenty two times, Like you should be running the hell out.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Of the ball.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: I'd like extend the most sincere thank you I can
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: to to John Harbaugh and what's the OC's named, Pod
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Monkin for in that divisional round game.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: To not do that, it was really cool, much appreciated.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Just like they Brigan did the year before against Kansas City,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: where it was like, why aren't you.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Running the ball because the football, because I think they
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: want to validate Lamar Jackson in the postseason and let
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: his arm be the story. And it's ridiculous because because
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: it's such a comp they have the ability to be
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: so complimentary with what they do.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: They just they just lose their identity in the postseason.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell they just outthink themselves like it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: And it's I don't know if it's if it's that
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: or if it's like, well, we think they're they we
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: think the defense thinks we're gonna run it, so we're
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: gonna It's like, no, just lean like Lamar is a
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: good passer, but the run game should sell your story.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And if they can't stop the run, then like it's
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: just yeah, I just feel like they can't. I've talked
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and talked about a couple of weeks ago. I feel
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: like the Ravens just can't get out of their own
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: way in the playoffs, Like they just overthink the hell
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: out of it. It's just like, just keep it simple,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: dance with the girl that brought you, and you're you
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: in a corn of a run game with your two
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: tight ends and pat Riccard and Derrick Henry and Lamar
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and even like Justice Hill when he's healthy, like all
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the things they can do. Yeah, don't deviate from that.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: So week one I make I mean, I shouldn't say expecting,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: because the Ravens are gonna do whatever the Raven's gonna do.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I expect that run game to present a
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: problem for the Bills. But they present a run they
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: present a problem for the entire league. It's more of
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: how we continue going forward, and again especially because they
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I should backtrack this a bit, because Tyler
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Williams said the Bills told him if he was there
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: at thirty he would be their pick. The Lions took him,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the Bills took care students said, So maybe they were
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: opting for more of a run defense flavor on the interior,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, they just leaned
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: harder into what they've already done.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just such a crazy pivot, you know what
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: I mean? Exactly how do you go from we're picking
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Tyler Williams at thirty two, Yeah, we'll go in TJ.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Sanders.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I like, yes, but it's a complete and so my
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: thought there on night two, because they were I heard
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the tyleek Williams thing. My thought when they traded up
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: even though this person I'm about to say doesn't really
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: offer a lot from a pass rush upside. I thought
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: they were gonna go with like Alfred Collins. I was like, Okay,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: they want the big body run guy. But even though
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: TYLERK Williams isn't a pass rushing savant, he's got significantly
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: more juice and is better in that regard in my
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: estimation than Alfred Collins. But yet exactly your point, like
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you it's Tylank Williams here, and that it's teg and
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: not that not that either one is bad, but they're
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: just very much opposites in terms of play style and
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: body type and skill set, and so how do you
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: get It was almost like they were like, you know what,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: we were gonna make an exception for Tyleek, screw it,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Let's just do what we always do and opt for that.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And again, that can work. But it was it was
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: such a bigger problem than I think people realized last
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: year because so many games the game script forced teams
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: out of that run element. And if that run element stays,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: it's a problem. Then you're keeping the ball away from
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen and that offense and so on and so forth. Yeah,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I'm there with you. Good times, good times. I appreciate
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you calling me out for being too soft on that
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: a displacement piece.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget what you said. You said, how are
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: they going to mitigate?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Mitigate? I have said blown off the ball, but I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: just that's my easiest way to kind of phrase it
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: is mitigate displacement, mainly because two I think also, I
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: think when people here blown off the ball, they think
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: north and south and you're getting driven back. And granted
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: that what happened to Bills, but it was also like
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: gap to gap horizontally, so displacement I just treated as
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: this way and that way, but fair. I appreciate you.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Next next question, we got the most under the radar
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: storyline you've got for the Buffalo Bills heading into training camp.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I don't think this should be under the radar, but
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I think it's become under the radar.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: It's Josh Palmer, Oh, good answer. Yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: So my hardest thing for answering this one was what
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I think is to under the radar based on rumblings
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and thoughts I hear and I see, Yeah, good call.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: It's like the flavor right now is Elijah Moore at receivers,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: and people are talking about Dalton can Kat and Keon Coleman.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: It's like Josh Palmer was a priority early free agency
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: signing with a very specific skill set that this team needed.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: The Bills face the highest percentage of man coverage in
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: the NFL, which if Josh Allen's your quarterback, that should
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: be very surprising to you, right and to me, that
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: is a direct statement from the NFL saying we don't
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: think your outside receivers are very good. We don't think
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: they can beat man coverage. And Josh Palmer was your
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: most significant move to become better at beating man coverage.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: And so much of what this bill, what I believe
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: this off Bills offense wants to be, is predicated on
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: having players on the perimeter, receivers on the perimeter that
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: can do enough to open up the middle of the
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: field where your best pass catchers operate in Kalosha here,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: in Dalton Kincaid, and so the development of Keon Coleman
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: and the onboarding of Josh Palmer is your ticket to
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: better separation on the perimeter. I mean, metrically, Josh Palmer
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: is one of the best separators in the league against
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: man coverage, and the tape bears that out as well,
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: and so it's it's how he onboards here and what
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: that means not only to have an individual piece for
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen to throw the football to that I think
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: has a pretty good all around skill set, but what
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: that means for the rest of the spacing of this
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: passing offense to kind of take away some congestion from
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: the middle of the field, because if you want to
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: attack the middle of field, like that's the highest epa
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: place to attack a defense, it's where the best things happen.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: When other teams are playing the highest percentage of one
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: high middle of the field close coverage, you can't attack
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: that area like you want to. You need some more
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: respect on the outside. Josh Palmer's your ticket to get
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: in there. And I think it's an underrated storyline, not
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: only for the reasons I outline, but because I feel
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: like it's such a forgotten part of this offseason narrative
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: and I don't think it should be.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I'm in lockstep with you. I think this is kind
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: of like, yeah, like I guess under the radar would
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: fit it, but like a sneaky, big one you know,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I remember talking a lot last year when they lost
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: the backback games to the Ravens and the Texans. Both
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: of those teams came out and said, hey, we've got
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: athletic and or good corners. We don't think you can
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: beat them. So we're gonna play single high and we're
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: gonna make you throw the ball, and we don't think
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: you can to those guys. And it created a significant
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: problem for the Bills. The Bills offense really it opened
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: up a bit with Amari Cooper, but they were kind
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: of capped from like if the ball's in the middle
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: of the field, they were kind of capped from like
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the numbers and then to about like fifteen yards, like
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: they could not operate in that space and throw the
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: ball and get things out. Even their instructure passing team
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: for a lot of the year struggled and a lot
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: of their best passes came from off script chunk plays
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: created by Allen and you know his connection with different guys.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I think the Palmer piece, it's such a good call
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: from you because this for his you know, and you've
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: talked about it. You and I have talked about together,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: like for as much as Josh Allen's the MVP. The
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: identity of this team is running the football on the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. But if you can't win
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: on the outside in some fashion, teams are gonna be like,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you know what, you know, which is crazy to say
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: what I'm about to say. Teams are gonna say, you
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: know what, We're just gonna load the box and not
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: let you run the ball and see if you got
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: guys in the outside who can beat us. And if
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: you don't, then you run into a scenario where now
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: the run game starts to get muddied a little bit,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: and you gout you have guys who can't win out there,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and everything just gets congested and tight in a not
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: fun way and creates a negative domino effect for the
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: rest of this offense. And then again, things breathed a
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: little bit and were alleviated a bit when they got Cooper.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: But they need somebody who can consistently win outside, especially
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: from like the man coverage perspective and the underneath and intermediate.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: It's got to be somebody that has kind of again
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like Palmer good release package, can win underneath, can win
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: in that intermediate. Like I am very confident, I think
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I know what some of the metrics say for him deep,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I think some of his verticality has gotten a bit
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: overblown by the metrics. But when he does win vertical,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and again he's not slow, But when he does win vertical,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: it's because he's a good route runner. He operates with
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: good deception and good pacing and body language. But I
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: am just very confident in him being able to separate
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: from zero to like thirteen yards and a variety of
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: routes in the route tree. And I think that's so
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: important because if teams try to stack that box and hey,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: we're playing cover one or even if it's Cover three,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: and essentially President presents like man coverage on the outside
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: against in single receivers sets with you know, guys in
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: their deep third, Palmer presents a guy that defense might
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: have to be like, uh yeah, but Palmer can kind
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: of cook our guy a little bit in this area.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: And you know, we can't really load the box against this.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: You might be able to just have that pass tag
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: and Palmer's that guy available in a variety of ways.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a good call because the
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: one way to stop this Bill's offense for me is
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: load the box stop the run, and again it's it's
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: crazy as it to sound as it sounds, forced Josh
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Allen to throw the ball forty or something times a
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: game because I don't think this offense is built to
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: live in that world with the weapons that they have,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: and how they built this offense and tied into that
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: is the pass catchers and the receivers in the room
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: they've created.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it comes down to like last year's
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: team was optimized, like they the Bills did such a
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: good job of knowing how to optimize game script for
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: what their roster.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Is and is not did a phenomenal job.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: Like it's not what the Bills roster was not as
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: good as it was the year before the or what
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: I think it can be this year. And I think
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen had to be the greatest quarterback in NFL
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: history of taking care of the football right, lowest percentage
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: of plays that resulted in a interception, fumble, or sack.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: The defense needed to lead the league in takeaways last
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: year based on the construction and kind of what was missing.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Their undermanned a bit on on on defense and so
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: they it figured out their their formula. They're winning formula.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: I think it has the potential to be a.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: More complete, more.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Variety, more options, more on the table for how they
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: can how they can win games this year, which is good.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: I think it increases your marchin for air. But I
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: think that's kind of the silver lining. The hat tip,
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: if you will, to the twenty four Bills is I
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: don't I don't know that they were or an elite team,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: but they knew how to maximize their possibilities to win.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Games, absolutely, and they saw the most man coverage last
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: year and the most single high coverage last year, and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is a testament to
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: teams not being scared of what they had on the outside,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: but also the respect for the run game and trying
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: to put numbers in there. And you're definitely going that.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: You know, it's up for debate right now how much
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: teams fear the Bills receiving core because we haven't seen
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: this core, you know, in this offense together yet with
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: live bullets, but we know teams are going to respect
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the hell out of that run and so we're going
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: to see a lot of those same coverage structures and
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: if they got a guy on the outside or multiple
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: who can win. How the hell do you stop this
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Bill's offense with their ability to run the football, have
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen and then throw the football and have viable
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: weapons on the outside, and yeah, that's a really scary piece.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I also think Josh Allen needs to be better throwing
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: the deep ball. He's been poor the last two years
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and has left a lot on the table. I think
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: that's a big piece too, not only winning on the
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: outside and having guys that can be beat man, but
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: guys think that can succeed vertically and make you pay
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: and be able to take some shots and hit more
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: of those shots that are going to be prevalent and
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: available because teams want to think, you know, want to
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: stop your run game. Last question that we got, who slash?
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: What are you most eager to see during Bill's training camp.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: I've done well to not double dip with any of
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: my answers. I'm going to break the streak right now
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: because i want to give you one thing that's it's
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: a little tongue in cheek but it's not really I
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: think it's important, And then kind of like my real answer,
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: my tongue in cheek but not really comment is going
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: to be who gets the punt return opportunities. Okay, I
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: think that is a I'm a big you know, I
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: love projecting rosters and all that. But the piece of
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: the puzzle that I struggle with the most right now
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: is who is the punt returner? And I know that
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: you would say it's mons Bradon Codrington. He was the
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: punt returner last year, and to which I would say, yeah,
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: you did a good job.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: I thought it was a great trade and I was
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: very rest of him. I just don't know that he
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: brings enough value to this roster.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Can you burn a roster spot just for a punt
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: returnal on the guy and for him, yep, great call.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Can't play corner, can't play a lick a corner, and
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: he doesn't play any other special teams. It's not like
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: he's covering kicks and punts, So very very very limited
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: overall profile. And this this secondary situation is very difficult,
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: like to if they're going to roster ten or eleven,
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: to get it down to ten or eleven, if Brandon
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: Codrington is one of those players, you're really you're gonna
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: have to like, you're probably not gonna roster Dorian Strong
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: or JaMarcus Ingram.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's the consequence there, and I wouldn't want
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: that to happen.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: No, And those are both, like I know that we're
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: talking bottom of the depth chart kind of guys. Those
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: are both quality football players. I like what Jamark grant.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen Strong in the NFL yet, but his
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: pedigree and his experience at Virginia Tech and his skill
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: set and traits I think projects well. And Ingram has
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: inside outside versatility. He showed some ability to ball a
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: little bit when used in those dining packages earlier in
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: the year with the injuries to Charon Johnson.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: And I think JaMarcus was the Bill's best special teams
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: player last year for sure, in my opinion, covering kicks
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: and punts. And so the challenge that I have here
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: is I look at this receiver corps and I think
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: most people would say they're going to roster five and
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: those players are Coleman, Shakir Palmer, Moore, and Samuel problem
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: with that compilation of five receivers is none of them
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: help you on special teams. So can Elijah Moore be
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: the punt returner? I know he's only had two punt
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: returns in the NFL, but he had seventy eight in college.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: That does include fair catches, and so he doesn't have
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: that many returns because that that many fielded punts. So
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: he did very well in terms of taking care of
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: the football. I think that's important. I think the Bills
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: need to find some special teams contributions from receivers, and
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: I think that's the way to do it. And then
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: that gets the piece of that's important, is that gets
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: Condrington off your roster, and that does make room for
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: an Ingram, Dane Jackson, Adrian Strong, who you do think
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: can't help you cover kicks and punts, which is an
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: important part of this roster puzzle. If it's not Elijah
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: Moore or Brandon Codrington, then who is it. Shakir he
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: was in the postseason last year. Yeah, you know, is
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: that part of what.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I like it? I like him, you know, anytime I
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: can get the ball in Khaluls Shakir's hands more, I'm
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: a fan of it. But also I think he's going
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: to be important to the act, no disrespect to special teams.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be important to the actual
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: function of the regular art.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: I agree, But he's not a high volume snack. He
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: doesn't play in twelve personnel. Yeah, so like, so, is
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: is that how you kind of like make up some
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: missing contributions.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get him some extra touches.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Ms taber Or, the Bill's new Special Teams coordinator. He
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: said he's never had so many.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Returns. Who are they? Yeah? Right? Who are these people?
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: But I well, I mean we're gonna find out real
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: soon here. But I'm eager. I'm eager. Right, that's the question.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: What are you eager to see him? Who are these
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: returners and who realistically can do this? And can Codrington
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: get bumped off this roster? I think that'd be That's
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: I don't not like Brandon Codrington. I just feel like
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: he doesn't bring enough value to roster him based on
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: the competition that exists across this team.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: So that was my sort of answer. It really is
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: my answer.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: But the other thing that I want to want it
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: to bring up here is like, and shout out to us,
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: we haven't talked about James Cook yet, and I'm gonna
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: kind of do that right now. But it's really not
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: so much the contract piece or if he's going to
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: hold in or whatever, but the Bills have navigated all
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: but three days of this offseason without James Cook, right,
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: He's not been around. So that's put Ray Davis and
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Ty Johnson in elevated roles, and the Bills rushing offense,
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: especially last year, was optimized for James Cook, which is
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: it should be. It should be the way that they
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: pull their tackles, the way that they set up mid
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: zone and cut back zone, and how they will attack
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: the edges. Like it's it's very much what does James
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Cook do well and how do we optimize that? And
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: that's what any good team should do. Yeah, it flies
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: in the face of what is optimized for Ray Davis,
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: very very very very different runners. How is this what
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: clues do we get during camp for how this run
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: scheme is optimized? Does it give us some indicators about
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: how much more they want Ray Davis to play and
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: maybe less James Cook or if will will we see
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: enough where it's like go ahead and trade them, you know,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Like I just I want to see what new layers
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: because I mean, I don't have any numbers on this.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe you do, but.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think they played I don't think they ran
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: as much dart last year as they did the year
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: before the tackle rap play.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean I don't have the hard numbers
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: on it, but no, last year was a was a
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: lot of mid zone, a lot like I think mid
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: zone eight into all the tackle poles stuff. Yeah, and
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: do I mean duo has been a healthy one for
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: the past couple of years. But yeah, absolutely mid zone
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: overtook the tackle pulse both in terms of dart and
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: tackle long trap. Both of those went down.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: How so, what's coming?
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Chromer has got a huge role in the run scheme?
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: What's what's what's he been thinking about for the last
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: six months? You know, I want to find out and
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: we're gonna get some. I'm eager to I'm eager to
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: find out, so run scheme optimization and what clues that
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: gives us about the direction of the backfield.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: And then who the heck are these punt returns? Man?
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, I like those. I like those ones to watch for.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And I even thow the that the kick return piece
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I think is interesting, although I mean, I don't know
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: they changed the rules, but it's still a ton of
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a ton of touchbacks still. So I feel like it
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: almost like you can put like any you can put
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Alec Anderson back.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: You heard Chris Taper said he's expecting I think the
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Bills had thirty six kick returns last year. He said
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: he was thinking like north to seventy five. It's a
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: huge pump.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Wow, I did not hear that.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: That is a he said it out loud. Yeah, he
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: said it out loud. He said that the touchback is
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: it now the thirty or whatever it is? Thirty five?
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Different, they think that they think they're gonna get more returns.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Oh I forgot that. Yeah.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's the that's kick return, which is not
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: the same as punt return.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, I'm not not at all. They're much different world.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: That's a person who returned kicks him punts. They're surprisingly different.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I good call. That's a sneaky one. That
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: could have been also under the radar too.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I'll be dialed in on that.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: And now that you're aware of that, and you're gonna
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: be probably the camp a little bit before me, I'm
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: gonna need this information from you.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say, it's just like lock now
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: would be instead of like compile on stuff. I need
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: to see like who especially too, because normally it's like Okay,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: they have like three to four five or five guys
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: at most like return panwen of like, do they have
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: a whole cavalcaded dudes back there just like for punt
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: options or who really kind of separates? Yeah, that's I
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: forgot who I was talking about this with earlier this offseason.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I said the same thing, like I don't
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: no respect to Brandon Codrington, but and I don't mean
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: this verbage to be that harsh, but I don't want
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: to burn a spot on him as a returner if
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: that means I lose DeMarcus Ingram, or I lose Dorrian
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Strong or you know, one one of the other safeties,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: or if Jordan Hancock plays well like that type of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: versatility that he has as a safety and nick or
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: even like Cam Lewis, if he's somehow like on the chot,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't want to lose any of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: those potential guys who play actual snaps on defense and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: offer some positional flex between the roles that they could
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: play defensively and then special teams. It's tough for me
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: to burn that on a silo punt return only essentially
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: guy maybe kicking turn Pece but yeah, knowing that he
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't really offer anything else, that's a good one.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Let me know who those gunners are. Who's getting those
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: first gunner reps? Too?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I show I figured, what was it last year? You
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: asked me ante, Oh, I think last year was the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: offensive line rotations? Yeah, for the second team.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: They asked me, I want to see how much great
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: I want to see how much Grable gets that guard
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: this year too.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I'm very I was, this is fuddy, you can't keep
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: them all afety. They're not Pokemon. Uh yeah, I Grabel. Oh,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I forgot this also too. I was talking about this
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: with someone else and they were like, oh, you know,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Grabile was probably an easy cut candidate. I was like, easy,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I know. I was like, he played so well in
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: the preseason.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: I thought I was watching dude.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I was saying, I was not ready for grey Able
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: to pull out that snatch the preseason and shopping dudes.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Down, and I was like, oh, look, I got real
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: excited about Pyland grab especially like when you contrast the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: player I watch it, I don't think.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, here's the dude with some athleticism
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: and length. Will see what he can be. And then
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, look at the technique throughout each preseason. He
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: he significantly improved preseason one to two to three, and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: by preseason week three, I was like, he won the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: swing tackle job.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: He did it.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: He's very real.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: I think he's very real as a possible successor to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: David Edwards that left guard. Very Yeah, the exact same, exact,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: same measurables, exact same, And.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: David Edwards is a UFA next season? Interesting? Yeah, I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: am a sneaky not sneaky concern. But with McGovern and Edwards, like,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: are we talking about both of them being in a
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Bill's uniform next year or is it a SVPG time
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: in Tyler Grable or is it Alec Anderson moving into
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: you know one of those spots, Like what does that
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: look like? That's a not unnecessarily camp. That's one of
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: like my underlying things for this season and going into next.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I'm very much a if it's not broken, don't fix it.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: And this offensive line is very much not broken, So
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want anything to change.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: But I hear you, but I mean, what, let's be realistic.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: McGovern's going to be north of fourteen million a season. Oh,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Cyrus Torrance? What who is this some guard just got
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: paid a stupid amount of money?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Who was it? Trey Smith? Oh yeah, the crazy big money.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the most ever.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: Yet, right like Osirius Torrance is potentially going to be
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: like north of fifteen million dollars a year.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even if he's I was even thinking two of
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: who the Panthers paid last offseason and Stoke, Yes, thank.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: You twenty million dollars a year guard.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: The guard market has becomeing like the tackle market year
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: or ago, and every people are just paying into your
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman left and right.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: And David Edwards is I mean he's a serviceable starting
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: guard in the league. That's like seven eight million dollars
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: a year. Yeah, this interior three, it might it's probably
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: the last year of it. Oh, I don't think. I
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: don't think you can keep all three. I don't think
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: you can do no.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you keep Edwards in McGovern, that
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: means towards Torrance is likely gone. And then I think
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: if you lose McGovern and Edwards you're likely keeping Torrance.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Just what because even if Torrance continues to improve, but
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: his size and what he can do from a people
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: moving standpoint, where the league is headed turned towards the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: type of schemes and philosophy on the offensive side of
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: the ball. A lot of teams are gonna see him
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: and just want to mash the hell out of teams.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I can see somebody paying him a good chunk.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: I think you look at four players, it's Connory Govern,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Osyrus Torrance, James Cook, who I think are all looking
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: for fifteen million dollars a year or more, and then
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: David Edwards, and I think he can only keep two.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The easiest one to say is well, I really like
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: whether it's Alec Anderson or said Van Praying Grainger or
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: Tylan Grabile, it's like, oh okay, we got an answer
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: left guard, and now you get to pick one of
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: you get to pick two of McGovern, Torrance and Cook.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know, well, I think it also
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: helps to in this if somebody said it in the
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: comments there music Blogger, I have to say Chrome Chromer
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: maybe the best offensive line coach of the NFL. So
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: much of it that gives me like that reduces my
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: trepidation here as being like, well, you know what, there's
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: so many people say now like in Chromer, we trust me,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Like with him getting guys ready and coached up, and
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: we go from there.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: Let's just hope Aaron Kromer wants to coach the Bill's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: offensive line forever.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I give me I need a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Dante Scarneki, a type of scenario where he's just there
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: for for an hour and doesn't go somewhere else.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what he's gonna do or not.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: So it's also scary. Yeah, also scary. The day's coming,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I know, uh, terrify and terrifying I am. So we
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: talked offline a little bit, and then we talked for
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes about blueberries and the movie Casino, Miss
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Rachel and some farm stuff. We got a bit off track,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: and even with all of that, we've only been show
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: running as of right now, for right now an hour
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: and four minutes. I came very close to getting you
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: out right on time like I wanted to. So I'm
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: very proud.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: It's on me, dude, you don't have to wear that.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: That's on me. I brought up. I brought up the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: blueberry thing, which that one.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I love that conversation part. That was tremendous too. I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: have no problem of keeping you forever. We could go
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: until midnight. I don't care at all. I care for you,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I don't care for myself. I would selfishly keep you
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: here for forever. But I want to be cognitive of
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: your time. So I am proud that we got you close.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: For those still watching, I'm going to keep trudging on
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the questions that Joe answered, I'm gonna give mine and
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: some details and some stat pieces that I saved. I
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: wanted to make sure we got Joe out on time,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: just in case people don't know, Joe, who you are
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: and where they can find you, what you do and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. The flow, the flow is yours. Well
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: technically the flow and the floor can be yours right now. Wow,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there you go. The mic is yours, the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: floor is yours, the flow is yours. Tell every buddy
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: and everybody who you are, what you do, where they
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: can find you, and all that stuff.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna start rapping there, dude, dropping bars,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: you know, and I.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Don't even know it, but I can show it.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Was that in your back pocket? Or did you just
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: do that?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: No? That that's a phrase from like It that I've
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: known for like fifteen years. I don't remember where it's from, but.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: That's a pop I'm a pop culture. I'm watching Miss Rachel.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: I already told you I watch football and Miss Rachel.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: That's Miss Rachel.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: If it's not on Miss Rachel or the NFL or
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: college football.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. I don't have a clue.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Not a clue.
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  Speaker 4: Joe Marino, host of Lockdown Pills, I think that's the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: most important thing for you to know. At the Joe
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: Marino on X A lot of content all the time,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: and appreciate you have me on. Appreciate uh, you know,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: cover one and everything that you guys do over here.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: It's been a good relationship and enjoying your content and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: excited to follow a long this season.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me again. It was uh, it
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: was awesome to have you on this episode again. Like
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I mentioned in the intro and I mentioned on Twitter,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I had you on for this episode last year at
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: this time. So I like this kind of mini tradition
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: we've created an addition to you know, I have you
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: on this show throughout the entirety of the year at
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: different points, and you have me on Lockdown. So I
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: appreciate the working relationship that we have and you as
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: a person and you as a football analyst and everything
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: that you do. And again, I know how precious and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: valuable your time is with all that you do both
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: on and off the field. So I appreciate you taking
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: the time to join me tonight. And yeah, you crushed it.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate the hell out of you.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Thanks, brother, appreciate you. Go Bills, Go Bills.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Have a good night, mister Joe Marino, tremendous guest. Before
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I get into my answers, I want to go back
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: and grab that super chat from Jason. Jason. Thank you. Wow,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: this is a big one. It almost covered my entire
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: the entire face. One, Jason, thank you very much for
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: being here. Two, thank you so much for the super chat.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Three let's get to this actual super chat. Jason says,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: do you think there truly is a way to attack
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: an offense besides through the defensive line. It feels like
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: McDermott wants solid, slash, smart play everywhere, but is realizing
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: he might need to be a little more quote unquote
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: wild on the defensive line. For lack of a better word,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I think I think for this question I think so
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: much of it is kind of tied to the old
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: debate that a lot of people have had, like coverage
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: or pass rush or like coverage your defensive line, Like
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: how do you build your defense? And I don't think
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: there's necessarily a right answer. You know, you can have
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: a solid D line and it affords you luxuries on
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: the back end. You can have a very solid back
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: end and that affords you different pieces on the D line.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: What I think is most important about your question here, Jason,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: and this is tied into some of the points actually
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: that I have that we're gonna speak about in a bit.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I do think my biggest issue with the Bills defense
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: over the years is Sean McDermott. And you alluded to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: it here saying like it feels like, you know, he
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: needs to be a little more wild on the defensive line.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's defense since he was in Carolina has very
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: much just been relying on the front four to win
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: as rushers and win against the run, and that allowing
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: the back seven to play coverage so that way you
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: always have the numbers advantage in coverage and you can
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: do a variety of things. The issue with that is,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: you need to have horses up front to play that
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: kind of football, and the Bills just unfortunately have not
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: had that level of horse across their defensive line. If
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: you look at the defensive lines that McDermott had in Carolina,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, they had some of the best players at
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: their positions on those defensive lines. And then even you know,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: juxtapposing it with a team like the Eagles this past year,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: and everybody's going to try and replicate that their defensive
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: line was like seven eight guys deep, like quality guys
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: on their defensive line. It's hard to just win with
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: your front four if you don't have studs you need,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: because if you don't have studs, then you need to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: have like six or seven guys that are all like
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: a B to a B plus. And that's hard in
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: and of itself, let alone not having studs or even
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: getting them. So I do think when if you know,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: kind of being more wild this year, I do think
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: they need more, you know, mixing in some more odd fronts,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: some more you know, run stunts, pass stunts, some games upfront,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: more five man pressures, more simulated, more creepers. I think
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: you need more manufactured attacks. And games upfront. Now, the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: issue with that is it is I mentioned in a
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: little earlier with Joe it it's a bit of a
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: risk reward if you call the wrong stunt at the
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: wrong time, all of a sudden, you know there's alleys
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: to run through between you know, your garden center or
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: the garden tackle or whatever. So you know there air
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: is a risk reward element to it. But I do
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: think they just have to play more games and a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: more variety's a bit more varied attack, I should say.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: And this is all part two. This is kind of
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: my own personal philosophy. Like my the defenses I really
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: gravitate towards are are more odd front type of defenses
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: that have more hybrid type of players. Like I think
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: it's fine to have a traditional four down, you know,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: defensive line and static type of front, but I like
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: having defenses where you know, it's three down, but it's
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: kind of four down, and you've got a guy in
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: the edge who can drop into coverage and who could
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: also rush a little bit, and you've got this mix
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: of body types and skill sets which allow you to
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: play a mix of fronts, which then tie into the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: kind of mystery of how you can attack where you
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: can attack, and vary it based on matchup and based
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: on opponent. But this is a really great question and
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate the super chat. That was great. Oh
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: and you got some follow up Jason. You said it
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: feels like McDermott has always wanted solid, solid, solid, and
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: that wins you a ton of games, but it hasn't
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: been enough when we needed people in positions to be
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: free enough to just make a play. I also think
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: that's true, Like they've had guys that have again been solid.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: I think they've lacked the high end talent, and that's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: part of what I alluded to with like not having
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: the horses up front. They haven't had like bucket getters
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: up front, dudes where you just want to clear everything out,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: play io ball and let somebody win one on one.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Von Miller was supposed to be that guy, and he
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: was until he got hurt. Ed Oliver is that guy
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: at times, but not always. Sometimes it happens a lot,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: sometimes it happens a little bit. Sometimes it doesn't happen
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: at all. And I think that's been their biggest thing.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Like they've built this team out of having a strong
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: front four, and they haven't had a strong enough front
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: four and so then you have to combat that schematically,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: and it's been a bit rocky. Jason, you also said,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: but it seems like his approach is to do it
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: to the D line. Absolutely. Uh. I think McDermott and
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Bean have both talked about and used various phrases in
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: terms of like build the defense through the defensive line out.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: The defensive line is the engine. When Eric and I
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: had Dean Marlow on the film room a couple of
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: years ago, he said the same thing, like McDermott believes
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: in building the defense from the defensive line out the defense.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: The defensive line is the engine. They both believe that
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: it starts up front, which again is what makes it
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: so frustrating that they don't have horses up front that
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: you can continuously rely on, because they do believe that
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: the defense starts from the defensive line and builds out
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: from there. The defensive line is the engine, whatever verbiage
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: you want to use, But it still feels like year
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: after year we're like, man, they really need help a
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle, Man, they really need help at edge. It
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: it's a larger frustration point. Yeah, it's tough. Tough, tough, tough, tough, tough.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: And this is also a good point for Connor, who says,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: but what can a defensive line do when the other
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: team is getting the ball out under two seconds and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: the secondary looks lethargy and gets cut up on crossing routes.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: That's where we get into the marriage of coverage and
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: pass rush. That's where it comes to playing more man
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: coverage on the back end, restricting passing windows, playing more
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: press and or playing more press jam to disrupt timing,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: get in the kitchen of guys and throw off again.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: That's spatial that's spatial awareness, the spatial breatheability that receivers
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: or pass catching options have. Yeah, that starts to stack
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: and it's a much larger schematic conversation that we've talked
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: about a bit on the show throughout this offseame.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: That's a very good point.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Jason, of course. Yeah, of course. Anytime,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: I mean one, anytime someone throws a super chat up,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I'm always gonna respond anytime, and especially you know you're
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: you're here all the time watching. I appreciate the hell
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: out of you being a consistent supporter of mine and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: the show, So yeah, anytime. I appreciate you very much
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: for being here and for the super chat. And that
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: was a good question, so thank you very much for that.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: So a couple of pieces again, I just want to
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: answer some of these questions. I didn't want to make
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: this show solely on Joe and I'm just asking him
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: stuff and then I'm like, all right, everyone, good night.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: So I want to give a couple of my answers here.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: You know, my answer for the question that I need
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: answer the most coming out of training camp. Again, I
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: think a lot of this answer will The biggest one
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: for me is the run defense piece that I talked
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: about a bit with Joe, but I don't think that'll
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: be answered until we're in season. So the biggest question
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: that I need the answer the most coming out of
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: training camp is, you know, can Joey Bosa be edge one?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: And I asked that from the perspective of, you know,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: the Bills needing a a guy off the edge who
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: can get them a bucket as a pass rush, who
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: can win one on one, who is a consistent threat
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: and a problem up front, because if Joey Bosa can't
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: be the edge one as a pass rusher who can
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: tied into this a bit is what kind of jump
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Greg Russo makes and what he looks like as a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: pass rusher. There is a chance that if Joey Bosa
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: is healthy, and if Greg Russo makes another jump like
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: he has every year he's been in the league, the
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Bills could have two edge ones against the past. They
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: could have Joey Bosa and Greg Russo both be a
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: terror off the edge. There's also a chance that if
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is hurt and Greg Russo doesn't make another
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: jump as a pass rusher, the Bills could have no
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: edge one from a pass rush perspective, and they would
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: have to cobble it together in the aggregate like they
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: have in previous years. That is a very worrisome thing
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: for me. That is a very scary thing for me.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: I've talked about it a bunch. I think as much
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: as I love Rousseau, I think he's more of a
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: batman than he is a Robin as a pass rusher
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: right now. And the best chance to get yourself a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: batman is for Joey Bosa to be healthy. If not,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: your best chance is Greg Russo taking a jump and
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: going from Robin to Batman. If not, I don't think
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have a Batman, and then you have to
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of Robbins and night Wings and stuff
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: like that. And that's a whole other conversation. Can a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Javanessa be that? Can Landon Jackson be that? Can Javon
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Solomon can be that? Can Kent? Or can Javon Solomon
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: be that? Can Michael Hoyt be that? Do they want
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: to keep him at edge?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: How much does he even factor into the true edge
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: grouping or do they use him in that spinner roll?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Which is another point I'm gonna bring up here. So
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: that's a big one for me, and I think that
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: is when we can get answered coming out of camp.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Like we can watch one on ones in the trench
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: work and see one if Bosa is even practicing two
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: If he is, how much is he causing problems for
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: the guys that he are blocking him, especially considering he's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: gonna have time going up against two real the good
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: tackles and Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown, and so it's
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: kind of you know, metal on metal, good on good,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna be able to see, you know, kind
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: of what we get from that. So again, the top
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: one for me here is the run defense. I think
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be answered more in season. So for the answer,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: the question I need to answer the most coming out
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: of camp is you know, essentially Ken Joey Bosa b
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: edge one and if not, can Greg Russo be that?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean edge one like all the top
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: guy in the depth tron. I mean a true edge
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: one as a pass rusher, like a guy I think
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: at Groot is an edge one against the run all
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: day every day. Is one of the best run defenders
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: in all of football, not just edges or defensive lineman.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: One of the best run defenders in all the football.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's there yet as a pass rusher,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: there's a chance he Ken be Again, He's made jumps
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: every single year and that's why if he makes that
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: jump and Bosa stays healthy, you could have two horses
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: coming off the edge. And that's extremely, extremely exciting. Kay
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Morris is our best chance of training for Trey Hendrickson.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that Paul says what nose
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: tackle targets might the Bills have? I got or zero tech?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I don't think really anybody. I
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: think they want more inside rush penetration guys. I think
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Tyler Williams was either a unicorn or a kind of
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: flash in the pan. I think they're opting for more
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: inside rush and more penetration. I don't really think they
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: have nose tackle targets. Maybe if the line falls apart
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: and they realize we got to pivot. But yeah, I
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: sadly I don't think they have any I think they
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: are again, this could work. I think they're content with
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: just one gapping, penetrating upfield type of guys that skew
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: more towards pass rush than they do you know, plugging
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: and displacement mitigation. As I said earlier, Kate Moore said,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: the question is punter r This says, my biggest question
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: is the defensive line in the wide receiver room. Both
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: have a ton of new guys and both are unproven. Yeah,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Micah says, Bosa stays hurt. We will be lucky to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: get ten games out of them. Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Claude says, if Joey Bosa's edge one from January to February,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: I'm happy. Hell Yeah, all Paul says, I gotta go go, Bills.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the show. Enjoy and night, Paul. I appreciate
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: you stopping. And James says, do you think Jackson is
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: a rookie with a high motor makes a difference. I
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: think he'll need to because Bosa is going to get
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: hurt a bunch and Michael Hoyt is out for the
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: first six games, so I think he's going to have
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: to make a difference. I'm still not sold on him
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: because he's high cut and his play style. I think
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: I think he can be a fine rotational guy. I
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: don't think he's ever going to be a high end player,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: but I think he can be a fine like Edge three,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: maybe Edge two. I think they're going to need him
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: to make a difference, and I think he'll be fine
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: again in a rotational role, run stopping kind of guy play,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: violent play through guys, and kind of set a you know,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: a physical tone and edge on the outside. We'll see
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: what we get from a pastor's perspective and just how
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: much you know him being high cut and not being
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: very flexible and mobile from his lower in his lower body,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: how much that hinders him. So we'll seem all right.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Let us see the next one. I have biggest concern
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: I have going into camp. There's a variety of answers
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: I could add for this one. I like Joe's as well.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with one that I think is being
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: kind of This also could have been my under the
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: radar piece, but I want to know how they fill
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: the maccollins run blocking role. Mac Collins was eleventh amongst
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: all wide receivers in run blocking snaps last year, and
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: he led all non offensive linemen buffalo bills and run
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: blocking snaps. So he was involved from a both a
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: volume slash quantity perspective in the run game, and he
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: was also involved in very good from a quality perspective
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: in terms of his execution and being assignment sound. He
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: was also good blocking on wide receiver screens and bubbles
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: and pass tags and all that kind of stuff. I
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: think it's possible to replace him. I'm just concerned how
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: and what that means schematically. Is he replaced by an
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: individual like Kean Coleman or Dalton Kinkaid, or is it
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: more of a personnel replacement like More thirteen or more
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Jumbo or twenty one? And we see more Reggie Gilliam,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: or do they replace him schematically with formation or alignment
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, or however they replacement. I should say
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: it brings its own set of advantages and disadvantages. And
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: again that's not necessarily bad. But as a person who
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: is very much a proponent of if it's not broken,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: don't fix it, I would rather be fixated on tweaking
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: and building upon last year's offense instead of, you know, replace,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: And I do think you're going to have to replace
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: you know that Mac Collins. Well, again, it's not doom
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: and gloom, but I do think it's significant, and then
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: you canbind that with some of the pass up side
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: that he brought. I do think it's not necessarily like
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: the easiest fix, but I do think it is one
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: that worst case scenario they can cobble together. I just
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: kind of want to see how and why they do it.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Position group. I'll be watching the most talk about this
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Earlier the safeties. Joe and I talked about this. I'm
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: just concerned how Bishop and Rap fit together. If Bishop
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: and Rap are the starters, does Derek Forrest make a
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: push Do the bills just say you know what, we're
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: not impressed with Bishop or Forrest, so it's gonna be
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: hamdling and rap again. Yeah, I think safety is one
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, most under the radar storyline heading into camp.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: For me, what they do schematically with Michael Hoyt. Do
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: they use him in that spinner role like the Rams
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: did or is he more of a traditional edge in
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: terms of just being like their traditional four down, one
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: gapping front, he's just in the edge rotation on the outside. Also,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: do they have anyone else if they do use him
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: as that kind of spinner. And when I say spinner,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: I've talked about on the show, but for those who
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: don't know that spinner role, meaning like he could be
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: on the edge, he could be over the center, he
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: could be in the A gap, he could be over
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: a guard or the B gap. He could be off ball,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: he could be dropping into coverage, like you don't know
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: what he's going to do. If they have that role
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: for Hoyt, which is what I think they brought him
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: here for, which would be nice but also interesting because
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: they haven't had a guy like that in a very
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: long time. The closest guy they had to that was
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander years ago. If that is the role for Hoyt.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Do they have anyone else in that role with him
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: being out for six games? Does that role disappear until
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: he's active, or do they try and plug someone else
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: into that role because they find value in the role
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: itself in addition to having value in hoy Do they
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: take someone else and use them in that spinner role
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: or try and cobble it together in different forms of
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: fashions or do we see nothing like it and it's
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: completely not a thing until Hoyt suits up and then
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: we see that. So I think what they do with
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: him schematically as an individual, for Hoyt himself, but also
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: does anybody else, you know, kind of fall into that
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: that role, of that type of usage. Oh, we got
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: super chat, Bailey Redword, thank you very much for being here.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the super chat. Deli Sorry, Deli.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Redwood says, just saw Codrington at Target. I just joined
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: the stream, but was thinking already about what his fate
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: might be tight roster this year, especially for a very
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: narrow skill set like his thoughts. You know, it's funny
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: and not evenna plug this. Joe Marino and I who
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: was my guest earlier on the show at about the
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: fifty minute mark, roughly, we talked about Brandon Codriton a lot.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Joe had Brandon Condriton and the partner turner situation in
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: general as one of his most eager things to see
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: during camp. So we talked about that a ton. So
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: I don't want to just be I don't want to
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: cop out and be like, oh, you know, just go
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: back and watch that. But go back and watch that piece.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: I will say, you know, you're you're pretty close to
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: spot onto what we said, you know, tight roster this year,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: especially for a very narrow skill set like his thoughts. Yeah,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if you can commit or burn
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: a roster spot for a guy who just gives you
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: kick return and punt return snaps like he doesn't do
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: anything else from a special teams perspective, doesn't do anything
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: else from a defense or like an actual corner perspective.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: So are you cutting somebody for someone who's just in
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: that one siloed role or can you cobble it together
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: with someone else and then make a roster spot for
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: someone who gives you more positional flexibility or roster flexibility
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: across multiple spots. That's a very good question. Bearded Johnson
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: is super late. But I'll watch The Green Mile over
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Casino any day. Carry on. I think there's two completely
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: different movies. That's fair, but I'm taking Casino. Yeah, that
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: says I'm still concerned with our safeties. I don't. I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: don't know that I'm there with the room yet. I agree.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: I am also not there yet. I yeah, I'm nervous.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: I like this comment. I went back from Nick. Nick
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: says is going to need Bishop to night the competition
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: and make all the right moves in camp no pun intended.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Oh I like it, James saying is that chess pieceerie
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: and Nick saying, yes, yes it is. Yeah, forget when
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I said chess piecer. I think I said it on
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: the live show at Mafia Con with Aaron on Saturday.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: I think, but I appreciate you, Jelle. Yeah, really good.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: Uh this is good from James, James says, was Codreyton
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: returning something at Target? Well done? That was very good.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: I kind of don't want to do anything. I wish
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: I want to just end the stream right now. There's
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: nowhere to go but down. That was hilarious. Well done, James,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: well done. That was super funny it was Codrick tim
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: returning something at target that was really good. Oh, well done.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, DELI a really good question, especially considering again
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: like Codrington only does returner duties. That's it. You're not
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: getting Oh yeah, he's corner four, or he's the backup nickel,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: or he plays all the you know, he plays punt
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: coverage and kick coverage. He's also a gunner or something
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: like else. You know. No, it's just returner duties, you know.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: So are you And what Joe and I talked about
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: a bunch was like, are you, you know, keeping him
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: sacrifice as someone like Adrian Strong or JaMarcus Ingram or
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: maybe Cam Lewis or Jordan Hancock someone like that who
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: may offer you more meaningful reps in another area. But
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: really good question. I appreciate you being willing to go
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: back and check that out. The call, Yeah, Hoyt was
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: my most under the radar storyline. And then, uh, who
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: or what I'm most eager to see during camp. It's
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: the coverage and the front structures.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Do you know?
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Joe and I talked about it a bit, you know,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: with Hairston and some of the other defensive line stuff.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: But do we see more man coverage? Do you know
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: what type of coverages are beginning and what capacity? How
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: creative are they being in their safety spins and their
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: coverage disguises? Are they getting more creative and their coverages
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: on the back end? Tying into this a bit, you know,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: what's the rotation at safety and the rotation at corner?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Who's you know, CB two and three and four, same
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: thing with safety two and three and four. You know,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: talking about just the front aspect. Do we see more simulateds?
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Do we see more creepers? Do we see more five
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: man rushes? For those who don't know, simulated pressures and
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: creeper pressures are four man rushes, but from a non
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: traditional sense they're called you know, they're referred to as
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: safe pressures. And all it essentially is is you're taking
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: a non traditional rusher and rushing them, and taking a
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: non traditional coverage player and or a traditional rusher and
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: dropping them. So essentially it's a four man rush. Easiest
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: way to think of it, it's a four man rush,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: but you drop Greg Russeau into coverage and you rush
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: to rel Bernard, So you're taking a non traditional rusher
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: in a linebacker sending him on the rush, then taking
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: a traditional rusher in Rousseau and dropping him in a
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: coverage You're still only rushing four, you're still dropping seven
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: into coverage.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: But it gives you the.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Opportunity to confuse protections, use their rules against them, manipulate
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: things a bit, and still have numbers in coverage albeit
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: having a non traditional coverage person in coverage. The difference
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: between a simulated pressure and a creeper pressure. Simulated pressure
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: shows pressure before the snap, a creeper pressure does not.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of just lined up off ball. You're thinking, oh, okay,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: they only have four down, that's it. And then on
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: the snap, a linebacker rushes, or you know, your slot
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: corner rushes and they drop a defensive end or a
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle or something like that. So do we see
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: more of that? Do we see more five man rushes?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Ryan Nielsen's teams the past several years, going back through
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: his time with the Saints and then the Falcons and
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: then the Jags last year, have always been a team
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: towards the top of the league in five man rush
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: rate in terms of usage. You know, do we see
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: more five man rushes from the Bills this year. Do
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: we see more stunts, do we see more games, Do
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: we see more blitzes? Or is it more of kind
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: of like what Jason asked earlier. Do we see more
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: of Hey, this is what we are, four down, one, gapping, penetrating,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: get up field. Is it more of the same or
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: do we start to see more tweaks and changes and
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: rotation pieces? Question here, how do sims compare to Rex's
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: old zone blitz?
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Good call or good question. I should say zone blitz
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: is not necessary. Zone blitzer are more from a traditional
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: blitz sense, you're bringing five or more. A simulated pressure
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: is you're only rushing four. So it's still it's similar
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: from the perspective of you're trying. You can create free runners,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: or manipulate pass protection rules, or get offenses to keep
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: in extra blockers that they don't actually need. You can
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: make them think like, hey, we're gonna send this guy
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: and that guy, and the offense will go okay, then
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: we got to keep in a tight end and running back.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: But then they actually don't need to. So you can
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: manipulate protections and rules and have the opportunity to potentially
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: create free runners or create like one on one matchups
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: that you want, So that's similar in that regard, But overall,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: the zone blitz piece was more you're actually blitzing, you're
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: bringing five or more guys, not just rushing four and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: dropping you know, a defensive lineman and bringing a non
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: traditional rusher. It's more of an actual blitz, you're bringing
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: five or more guys.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: But the potential.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Philosophy of being kind of attack minded is somewhat there.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: But with a simulated it's more, you know, a safe
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: pressure because you're still only rushing four and dropping seven
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: into coverage. There's more risk reward because that zone blitz
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: you're vacating more coverage space and you're usually bringing more
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: bodies to rush, so you have less guys in coverage.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I hope that answer your question. That was a really
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: good question.
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  Speaker 2: I really liked that.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. You know what else is a
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  Speaker 1: really good question. What is the best pizza in Buffalo,
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  Speaker 1: New York? And the answer is one Pi Pizza. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna scroll all the way back to the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: this episode because r J said that he had one
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  Speaker 1: Pie pizza a couple of days ago, and he said
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  Speaker 1: the cover one Josh Allen Goat Pizza was great. One
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  Speaker 1: Pie Pizza the best pizza in Buffalo, New York. I
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  Speaker 1: don't say that because they sponsor the show. They sponsor
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  Speaker 1: the show because I think they are the best pizza
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo, New York. And a really cool thing because
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  Speaker 1: we have this partnership with them, maybe about a year
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  Speaker 1: and a half into our partnership, they named a pizza
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  Speaker 1: after us, in conjunction with Josh Allen. It's called the
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  Speaker 1: Cover One Josh Allen Goat One because you know, play
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  Speaker 1: on words of Josh Allen being the goat, but also
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  Speaker 1: because there's goat cheese on the pizza. There's I don't
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  Speaker 1: even want to get in the specifics of what's in it.
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  Speaker 1: It is absolutely delicious. Everything they make is delicious. They're
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  Speaker 1: you know, just get getting a regular pie or their
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  Speaker 1: homemade blue cheese. Their menu is tremendously. That menu can
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  Speaker 1: be found in the episode show notes, whether here on
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  Speaker 1: YouTube orhichever podcasting Apple platform you're listening to the show on.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned the catering division in the intro. Their catering
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  Speaker 1: division is amazing. All the different kind of mac and
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  Speaker 1: cheeses and this coconut rice, chicken dish that they had,
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  Speaker 1: which was amazing. I've had them cater multiple events this
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  Speaker 1: summer and last year as well, and it was delicious.
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  Speaker 1: They also do a breakfast pizza. Everything that One Pie
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  Speaker 1: Pizza does is tremendous. So I wanted to bring up
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  Speaker 1: this comment from r JA one. I appreciate you being
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  Speaker 1: here RJ and watching the show like you always do
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  Speaker 1: and commenting, but too dropping this that you had yourself
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  Speaker 1: some one Pi Pizza. Glad you enjoyed it, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad you got the cover one Josh Allen go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's tremendous. So if you are in the Buffalo area,
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  Speaker 1: whether you live here, whether you're visiting here, anything and everything,
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  Speaker 1: get yourself some One Pie Pizza. If you need an
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  Speaker 1: event that's catered, whatever you're doing, check out Elevated Catering
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: a Buffalo on that link and online. Men, you can
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  Speaker 1: also be found in the episode showing us whether you're
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: on YouTube or whichever podcast gap or platform you were
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: listening to this show on. Yeah, they're really good people
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  Speaker 1: making really good food. I talk about all the time
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  Speaker 1: all the different initiatives and drives that they have for
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  Speaker 1: the city of Buffalo and the community at large, Toys
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  Speaker 1: for Tots, partnering with Roswell, the SPCA, the Alzheimer's Foundation.
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  Speaker 1: They just give back an a lot of ways. Aside
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  Speaker 1: from just providing us with tremendous food, they do a
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  Speaker 1: lot of good for the community at large. So get
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  Speaker 1: yourself some one by pizza, do some good for your
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  Speaker 1: taste buds in the community while you're at it, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: tell them that this guy's coverage and cover one say ooh.
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  Speaker 1: R J says, the goat cheese pizza reminds me of
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  Speaker 1: the pizza head in Sicily. It's legitimately great and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not being paid anything to say that. If you ever
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  Speaker 1: needed an endorsement, that's another tremendous one. A plus, RJ,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you very much for that. Well done
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  Speaker 1: on that, RJ King pisas do you think our receivers
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  Speaker 1: can get open and we'll we be able to stop
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  Speaker 1: the run and get off the field on third downs?
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  Speaker 1: All of those are questions. I think Palmer will be
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  Speaker 1: a help in terms of guys getting open. I I
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  Speaker 1: think we're only gonna be able to stop the run
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  Speaker 1: with numbers or with gamescript like I talked about earlier
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  Speaker 1: with Joe. I think run defense is still going to
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: be an issue with just you know, winning one on
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  Speaker 1: one or mitigating displaced. I think they're only going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to stop the run by gapping out, run blitzing,
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  Speaker 1: and having numbers in the box. I think that's gonna
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: be a problem. Getting off the field on third downs
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: big question. Talked about that last week in the film room,
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  Speaker 1: talked about it a bunch on Twitter. They were horrible
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  Speaker 1: on third downs overall, and especially on third and third
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  Speaker 1: and long, which is seven or more yards. I think
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  Speaker 1: they have to change some coverage pieces. I think they
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  Speaker 1: have to marry the coverage mary coverage with their front
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  Speaker 1: and their rush game better and be more varied in
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: their tack on the front end and on the back end.
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  Speaker 1: Play some more man play, some more press for strict
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  Speaker 1: some passing windows, and some airspace disrupt some timing, allow
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  Speaker 1: the guys to get up front and hunt a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But also those guys still need to win. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a big question. So I think do our receivers
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  Speaker 1: can Do you think our receivers can get open? I'm hopeful,
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  Speaker 1: but I think yes. I don't think it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a strength but I think they'll be able to
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  Speaker 1: get the job done. Will we be able to stop
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  Speaker 1: the run? Not unless they gap out and run, blitz
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  Speaker 1: and stack the box. I think that's gonna be problematic.
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  Speaker 1: Or use game script to make teams go away from
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  Speaker 1: the run and then get off the field on third downs.
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  Speaker 1: Big question, Mark, very fair, good question.
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  Speaker 2: Ah.
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  Speaker 1: David says, my nephew is going to u be this
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  Speaker 1: fall and I told him to go to one plat. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: good answer. David loved that. And then David says, how
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: much of third down defense issues with Babbage being a
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: first year coordinator? Will know not to cop out for
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  Speaker 1: an answer, will know more this year. If we see
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: more of the struggles that we did last year, then
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: it's you know, kind of symptomatic of the defense or
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: the philosophy and the schematics. If we see a change,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: then we know. You know, he grew, he grew a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and adjusted a bit. I do think, you know,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: him being a first year coordinator was part of it.
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  Speaker 1: But also he's got guys on that staff and in
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: that building who should have had the capacity to rain
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  Speaker 1: things in a little bit as needed considering how bad
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: they were, and they didn't. So it's a bit of
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: a mixture, but very good question. If you have not already,
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• 1:37:01
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• 1:37:03
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  Speaker 1: and structure and how guys are being used and player evaluation,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing coverage a lot of what I talked
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: about tonight, coverage structures, front structures, usage, snap rates, alignments
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  Speaker 1: and formation and how guys are being used, who's doing what,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: who looks good, who doesn't, who's performing in what capacity. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that was really fun time last year. I hope
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  Speaker 1: folks can join me for that again this year as
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  Speaker 1: I head out to camp. You know, no Jink's fingers
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  Speaker 1: crossed tomorrow and Thursday and potentially Sunday, and yeah, that'll
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  Speaker 1: do it for us, I think here adding that threw
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  Speaker 1: if I'm forgetting anything or anyone, I apologize. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much for Joe Marino for joining me on this episode.
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  Speaker 1: He was awesome as always. Thank you very much to
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: Jason and Deli Redwood for your super chats and for
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  Speaker 1: being here. Thank you to everyone who tuned in live
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  Speaker 1: this episode. I know we're starting to move forward towards Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for that, David, David saying watch out on
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  Speaker 1: the four ninety due there's construction. Thank you very much
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  Speaker 1: for that. That is actually sincerely and tremendously helpful. I'll leave
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