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- Marko: action. Hello! Big Nose! Tim: No... That was... I had to do this new introduction music I hope will work very well if I to post-production. But... I don't know, since we have about 100 people listening to our test episodes, so maybe I all the Hello... Marko: Hello everyone, is exactly the same as the minimum, 100, minimum, 1 pulse Tim: Absolutely, and you have to watch It's like, for every follower I do something. It's the same Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: here, every viewer wants to one point. But one point is higher. That's I think we'll in the same way. Yesterday we did a little test. I was always listened to. I listened to it once. It very cringe. Friends listened and said that they Most them were listened to. So I'm to the tradition and day to create a new part. Maybe start with a little intro, not with me, whom we doing this, Marko. But I'm thinking about I don't remember how we met I know it was somehow from school time. I remember it was Marko: school time. Tim: from school time and was an intro. Kaliu V. with me, whether we played poker or some a game with But just moment, I can't remember Marko: Okay, because my first memories are from the we Silvester in the town And then was someone called Tim, who work somewhere in a place. I can't remember the Well, maybe it's just info, but you there the time, were close to work. We were in Viru today, we in Käru, and you were there at the same time, we were close to work. But I remember that I didn't know who or what you were. Like, back I you, but I didn't know anything. But if you remember through Indrek Kaliu or something, maybe you remember, like, I didn't know or maybe I don't remember. Tim: Yeah, Well, we started here, the place was called McDonald's, where I Marko: Okay. Tim: for five and half years, over two countries and have even Marko: Oh-hoh! Tim: owned this thing called McPassport. Marko: Miss you, Anapr. Miss you, Deb. Tim: is, I speak quickly, actually the idea was that if it is McPassport, then you can fill your own home restaurant, what you know, what you don't know, what you know, what you don't know. And then when you go to another country, yes, yes, yes, then you Marko: Well, work then, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. Tim: go to another country and the logic was that you don't have to work. In McDonald's you had the residence to come and say If you had any work that you couldn't do then you could go somewhere else and start from And then when I looking my own misfortune in Taltec, where I half a year old, I that I wanted to to the in 2011 I made a MacDash party and I was going to with my friend and there I started McDonald's and I went to McDonald's and bought a house there. I had everything, I was in Estonia, was McDonald's OG, I knew everything. And then I bought a house overconfident, I thought, okay, this is my new job, I called the restaurant manager and then there was a guy named Peter. And then Petri looked at me and said, what do you want? I thought I to work, but I opened the I was like, aha, I a Mac Passport. then Marko: Heh. Heh. Tim: my started to laugh me, was a spoon in and this guy claims to have a Mac Passport. And then I stood Marko: Ha ha ha Tim: there and thought, okay, well, that's cool. But turns out that it doesn't work, a video. And they don't know anything about But I got a test day and... Marko: right. Tim: I went for a while, but it was that. Marko: I wonder how it is to be friend of from Eastern Europe and some... hey! Paps, have this Yeah, it's fun. Tim: I remember that we played poker at school during the sale. I don't know if you there or not, there was a quarter or a full-time one. Marko: I the malls or anything. The only place I in Sillujur was near the stop. was some kind of a quarter. Yeah. Tim: Yeah, yeah, that was his own quarter. But yeah, I was thinking, how did we get there, that we were going to together, but my memory was that we school or somewhere there, then we have seen each circumstances, different events that we see and I remember through healthy time, that the football team was not always you, then we Marko: Hmm. Tim: missed a bit when we did the E-league which was also in the 2000s, I it 15, 16 or 17, 18, whatever year was. Marko: Where about them? Tim: And then there was the next connection and then there a football team, basically everyone was there. And then the whole idea of that podcast was to find someone who could catch up with football and sports teams And then somehow you to the point where you Marko, he always standing places that he throws so that he go out. And then we got here. I don't know. Marko: One meeting in a and more precisely, was no need that. One Tim: Yeah, I am. Marko: test and finally we here Mikrit. Tim: What you Mark? Speak words about yourself. Marko: I am a one man band, a small entrepreneur and I business with of One my business, some events, what else is happening. I have a couple of business that are always in So we sell the same way, but in a different way to our customers. I'm a padel every month so, it's new thing and the most exciting thing is that I started DJ stuff of and now I have a friend who said that I don't understand how I have least a year of from DJs so I'm some gigs, playing music and it's a kind a hand cream where I do and now I'm doing this. Tim: Where the most beautiful things are, someone can come to the stage and play the game where the beautiful things are. Marko: I'm really guilty about this ad, but okay, promise. King Pong Events is my brand, where I all my stuff. If my Facebook page, you still me on Instagram, you'll find me there. And Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: let's you. Who are you? What do you Tim: I exist in the IT sector. My main job is in the fund. I was for a startup where I money. I with and get biggest amount of money back. I and it didn't go away. that's what I every day. I might mention that I have been a big sport and football fan My career started when I 20s. My mother got married to a friend in London. They were Chelsea fans. In 2000 they to Stamford Bridge. They put me the seat and said, look, there blue ones, let's them. And then I somehow got to watch it there. I was lucky that I started learn In 22-23, I Abrahmamist. Then there the best players there. Then was very important to it all. If the guy still wins, he gives everything he And then it a breakthrough And otherwise I watch it everyone. What sport is coming I can watch it. I Leimikas, the the UFC. Marko: Question! While you're you every game. I'll you that tomorrow we'll go to the bar to dressage. Will you me? Tim: If you think it's obvious what you're might be. Marko: Dressage is... no, it's the clothes. And usually with they jump from something to something, it's a of competition... I don't know name, but it's what usually with clothes, they jump, get a prize and something like that. But dressage is like a fan's work, that clothes have to be off a cold coat. Just when you a track or a field where they pick up like a or they have some known elements that they have do, pick up a basket, then they spin, do something interesting. elements, hobbies, driving, does it you Tim: I improvements, I can see the head time of every sport. Marko: Mmm, I'm alone. Tim: But yes, boxing, UFC, Alpvall, Wormell, rally are probably the main things I try to And how did Barcelona think of its birth? Marko: This thing came through, my first memory is that I boy, living in a Toonavel. Did I happen to know that or my parents were already watching some MMA, I don't know what the competition was. And first image I remember was that the Dutchman played and there a kick that you quickly, like in Dutch. And Edgar Davidz his glasses and a full on hoag against the Tim: Malatton. Marko: ball And he got the ball with a full on hoag And I was like wow, he's a good friend And I watching and I don't know if that time or later, was in Barcelona And then I of Rijkaard, would say Rijkaard was also Holland So I started watching I don't remember how the switch from Holland to Barcelona But if you're club player, for a healthy life, rather than Barcelona. And there been Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: some moments that I've of, that I be playing for and I'm very happy, but the time, the has been very difficult. It was time and I thought I could show you a co-star who was Ronald Koeman. How many of you would as a celebrity or a celebrity? You would be a fan of a small game I do. Tim: Well, can leave the I could have guessed if you or not. Marko: I'll put picture of it, but let's it anyway. Tim: It's still competition, not a friendly match. Secondly, I find very interesting is that the league or the national head coaches are also very interesting topics. We have Klopp, is the national coach. We Xavi, who is now the mid-along. know, is it just Xavi? Barcelona Xavi? Marko: Yeah? Yeah. Tim: who is a Dutch coach. We have Tuchel, he has for while, but I think very interesting to name him, English coach. And who else was there? Van Bommel. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: He won the contest. And who else there? I don't remember. Marko: I know, I'll you think about it, if you'll remember. He's behind me in the end of I think he's already there. Right. Tim: Mancini Mancini has to to Italy to train. And actually it's not a good idea to at their games, how they went, nobody has noticed. The is already as I quickly saw, the end of his second game. Marko: And I think there two games. The first one was Week, Tim: Yeah, xx. Marko: And the second game was... Cactus, 0-1 to Tim: Minus 0,1. The first one was with No. And the second I don't know. Marko: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where the Dutch are very well. Tim: I haven't seen anything. And you why I haven't seen anything? Marko: Neh. Tim: Because lot of things have happened in Namely Manchester Marko: Nee. Tim: City. Marko: Yeah I am. Tim: In the context of Manchester City, the for over a year. Where they were thrown out and they are... I lied, manipulated with financial information and showed numbers that actually are not correct for financial fair play and league. And it took a long time. And now there were 115 accusations and the last week, it was a very bad info, but it was leaked, speak, somewhere came out that someone I'm not sure if Manchester City is in their 14th 15th Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: The are... Well... There is better... ...president. There has never been The closest thing or one these things is... ...Kahjuks Chelsea, who has done a great job and we got two... two-stack transfer ban, 10 million in profit and some other which is bit than what I don't Marko: Points are not worth Tim: the points, but the Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: sum and the scale were about the same. Here we're talking about something again, it's something special, but what I saw is there's too much kick- Marko: I'm a bit... I'd say more the surface. bit of a and maybe a bit more of if you that. But yeah, I also mentioned that it's potential in terms the changes have There are some different versions in So in of this... I like to 114 people who the I don't know what will happen How many players will left, what money will they to sell. What made me laugh was a point. Do that was a FIFA streamer called DoubleA9skills who said that they know they knew that it would happen now? And what does it mean? How much did they spend on They brought Eliott Andersson, Enzo Fernandez, Buadi 60 and some other stuff. They spent 300 million on What does Maybe they are in a Now it's to the I don't know. Tim: Well, yes, but on other hand, even when they were born and brought in the players, let's they get now... One thing that I didn't mention, that titles can be given up, there are those... What Marko: Yeah. Tim: year were they? 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017, 2018, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016. All titles that were in these years are now in spotlight. But your point is already back, that... It's very logical, because if they get 50 points or they get kicked out the league, they can't pay fees. So, they do it for half a year, then they that the thing is in bag and then next year the people to And profitable sale will happen. Marko: No, absolutely not, but if they knew that they few transfers in they wouldn't be to sell If you money for them, but if you lot of then most players don't to Naguni, but the more they collect, the more they collect. will grow even bigger and they will have 90 % of then the bigger the group, the more money they will It's of a Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: loli metaphor, but I hope you get more of it. You Tim: Mhm. Marko: may have tried to your documents a bit more detailed, but in long term perspective, I'm happy you that you don't help them much. Anyway, matters what the value is. Tim: Well, as far I understand, there 14 days until both sides can appeal. Compared to the situation where they had a meeting, because this was first time that Manchester City has had on given topics, then I understand that now the is different, because Here, can't go to the other meeting and get appellated to place, to the laport, who will the decision against it. And if it goes through, then it goes through. If it doesn't go through, nothing it. If they were before, they would go to other meeting and get appellated again and and and you can take decision. Then here I the situation a lot. Marko: So the last song for Yeah, yeah. Okay. Tim: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the reaction that is currently being I can understand that the situation is still quite bad. I am ready for worst situation. Well, I'll bring it out. You said you've the here. I looked at it that release of Forrest's but 54 cases for inaccurate financial information. 14 for Miss Reporting Manager and Player Pay. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: In breach of UEFA financial fair play preaching profit and sustainability rules and 35 times for failing to cooperate with the investigation. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: These numbers are 142 different times. And then you take it on, they won these years where they won 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 titles. Marko: It's not like a fan, but was interesting meme at Mourinho has already said that his biggest achievement in Estonian was that he came second in Premier League with Manchester United. And then someone made meme at same time, saying, no, Mourinho, you came first with Manchester United. Tim: Yeah, Marko: I Tim: Nian? Marko: a nice app, I'll leave a link in Tim: But you can imagine that it's a very important thing that now that you have come the the League clubs are now also starting to meet Because they Marko: Yeah. Tim: had a atmosphere, they started to understand that it's only positive, but it has also changed their finances, because no got Champions League, no one some of amount of money, because they didn't stay the same. And the biggest one was Liverpool, who got a title without, I don't remember what year, four... Marko: I think I'd the thing about But I'll take it. Tim: Manchester United, then remained without a title, and Arsenal, who didn't title without title, they weren't there, they were close to top. But they also got to they went there and started to complain about and wanted it to something right. I don't know what's going on Manchester club at guess, but I I suggested it Not because of but I that City is waiting for a crash Because I think it's possible to Pepe, Mariska and Nima to continue on the same line. It's not Marko: Hmm. Tim: possible. It's too big a gap between what was and what is now. But now I think it's definitely going to crash. Because I think that the motivation, the confusion and the panic that the club right now, I can't say. Marko: Yeah, absolutely possible. It feels like a nontological approach. The only thing to play the devil's advocate, I don't know what it could be Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: is opponent's corner somehow. between, difficult situations bring together the players and the team. It seems that there is in that like a different noise or a different sound and noise us. We have to focus on one thing, is the footwork, and we do it. Maybe it has a bit that effect. I think the other side you made of definitely bigger part the but maybe they can make this perspective. I have to it a way, and see how... Did the statement that Mark Kehje after the English and Spanish game... that she thought too much about Manchester City themes and she went. Was it real or was it joke that was the Okay, then I guess it's a joke. Tim: I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. But... guess the version is game I'm but I can't say for But they're a lot. I think about all. Marko: I'm to to bed. Tim: Maybe... Well, after the I had a good time with studio, who was talking. In the same way, the game, the said something out of was smart, they camera and took it for And then was a really good time. And I must say that English players are little more toxic because they a point Marko: Hmm. Tim: of and something is on Okay. Marko: Maybe. I had to Czech grilish at point. But that's it. Tim: The only thing I like about Jack Reels is he's always on the of Marko: These kind of drinking festivals are quite rare to but... And it doesn't feel the brightest, brightest spinel either, way. It nicely said. Tim: Yeah, yeah. Take your last estigals, after all. Marko: Why do we try to We get back to Estonian, there's too much so we try to it into... I think one more thing Tim: No problem, Aga. Marko: is that I think bit that in Estonian you Tim: percent. Marko: can't give a very good content. One joke that a reference to the Manchester City scandal was that Everton got to be here. And I think that... So they were one-time winners and they won 10 or 12 points from the start. I'll just remember Tim: It was like Everton got 10 points and Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: then they made it on a 6 and then they probably got 2 more but that's what the meme has said, that there is because there Marko: okay. Tim: no thing and compared to the Everton, they did something so crazy, everything is bad but if you look It's not very good. It's worth it. I don't know, KFM's lawyers came here. Marko: So, is the same thing I saw, but from another angle, that someone was around. That if Manchester City had to be as Everton, and Everton got 10 or 12 Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: or and they be Manchester City, they would get 600 points. That would be interesting. Tim: Yeah, but it's a good topic, but what does mean? What does mean that 50 points being from Minarus such a situation? It's like... It's a pity, but it doesn't feel like pity. 50 points means that they can actually still the first place at that Like before the because I don't remember what it was, but there was some kind of minus 35, then they that time or something like that. Well, they are more in the music field. But it means that they are and least two are more obvious. So in long run, when they win their game, they are still more stable and more than the premium. So what is the of the that the is difficult, but all these other titles or music fields, well, it out that they have to be focused So I think it's a little bit a I think that if it's all true and everything is right they think that everything is they think right and and I know, I would put a pretty strong precedent to take either some title or somehow Automata Relegation or I would not really start Marko: No, well, I'm sorry to say... I would say that this is not quite right, we should a 9th place. If they really did these things wrong then if you take it, then take everything. Sorry, you things wrong and mistake. Where does the ion run? A silent stand is the same thing. If you are in the you are standing up. If you you are standing up. I say that taking a few shots from the or right side is not a good Some clubs win and some are left with the same role. But it is not fair. Tim: Mm-hmm. yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I didn't take the Why I say that? Just to be clear, it's that I think it's just too much chaos Who is it that we then crown Marko: yeah. Tim: these clubs Or then there were no winners Did Karikas it up? Because they were all gathered like game and financially, too, someone is going to pay back some things. I think it's like, don't know. On the hand, I if you relegate them to the next season or the next season, is a huge responsibility for Isn't that a good thing? We lot of to get them and relegate them next season. Marko: Is it The losing championship, yes, many players left. I don't believe that for there was chaos like Barcelona. Barcelona has all kinds of problems. If they Champions League I think they year, because it's not big deal If they are, I things. Tim: Well, think about it differently. If they fall there, I am happy they get back. But if you look at the financial fair play, they have to sell all their players. Because they Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: have to start a championship Because these salaries are just not enough. Okay, let's say that if with or qualify for next year And even if they can't go 100 million Ferdinandos, because they financial fair play permit, then go for years, when they work in advance so that they earn enough capital, so that they travel enough, spend enough capital. I think we're talking about if you a move, then I think it's least five years, you'll out of the four the world. Marko: Yeah, maybe not really. I forgot to this aspect. If they can survive, or they to you can't compete with players Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: Their academy wasn't bad either, in the near future. But maybe they don't compete too far. The thing. Their Tim: Yeah, until the good news. Marko: scouting system has pretty bad. Some kind of a stock and every interesting place there is a lot of money collected. I don't know, Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: it's a fun topic and it might seem like N plus one in a different way, but Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: we are here propose and break the the coffee. But the interesting thing is this. Tim: But two things I want to you, and we can on like this. Do you think that this year we will hear the end result? will happen? Is the first question. Marko: Okay. Okay, I thought you asked both. I think that City will be released next year somehow. I don't know how, but I think it's next year. It's a wonderful Tim: And the second question is what you will happen if you it Marko: I should look it. I also that Juventus didn't on any stage. In my opinion, they didn't under one division, only under two divisions. I would to Tim: Nearly. Marko: that this loss is something analogous. That it's not quite like championship, but it's like... it could even be gram bigger. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: That would my prediction. Tim: I think we will get the final score this year. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: And that race will be much softer than we think. I think it will be minus Marko: Hmm. Nah, it weep girl allay. Tim: 50 points or something like that. Marko: City is a big institution in the and it is a very important club for the Premier League and other football organizations. If they are not the it football club. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: So that in we lot of things for Maybe that's how it be. Tim: Yes, and the Premier League, I would say that there have only two cases Everton, who has lost Forrest, who lost points and the Championship, Tarbi and Luton have been in the same situation. Tarbi, 21 points and Luton, 30 points, is actually more Marko: Hmm. Tim: substantial. that was also what I thought about the same topic. If you look the poly market at the moment. then the that City will be relegated this year is more likely than Tottenham will be relegated this year. City had 23 % of the they were out, and Tottenham had 14 % of power, which Marko: Hmm. Tim: also means that this point deduction is definitely the popular potential strategy that the team needs. Marko: Yeah, it be. So, shall we start second part? Or do you want to the song a little bit? Tim: I have lot of things to understand not necessarily sports, but the first time in 2008, Cristiano Ronaldo was Marko: Name. Tim: the team game the and he didn't feel out of a minute. Marko: Wow. Wow. Unbelievable. My Tim: Missed it. Marko: wish is that this should have happened 5 years ago. But it didn't. Tim: Well, here I have to say that you are a Barcelona boy and Ronaldo hates you, so why do so? Marko: No, I have always respected Ronaldo and I respect him because he played Real Madrid. I am not a fan of school, so I my rival. I am on the side of living with and my rival is simply your rival. Ronaldo is the most... I best athlete in football and I lot respect for him. But like Jamie Carragher those famous words, leave football before football leaves you. my personal price is that Ronaldo is not the footballer used be. Some attributes have survived and some things can well, but that is no longer the Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: And my price is that it has a PR, which is in Estonian. Tim: Hmm, maybe I'll do that one time. Marko: His PR brings positive results But the and the team are better, I would say. One of the roles and half a coach role was in the when you won. I it would been even valuable to the Portuguese players on the pitch. Tim: Yeah, I'm flying on you, but I'm 100 % with I the way as my older brother, but every thing has its time and I think that time has simply passed. It's halp, it's natural. Marko: first. Tim: I think that he has last few years, as a member. Well, that's it anymore. Marko: Yeah, it's Tim: But I hope he will his 1000th goal. I think that Saudi Arabia, is that he has 34 goals left. Marko: Hmm. Tim: I hope he will make it and then he can end his career Anyway, I think Marko: Alright. Tim: it's pretty good. players are against the and the team to Marko: True, but what you think is the biggest challenge to achieve the next thing? How does he get followers to to get a song? And then he puts it Tim: I think so. I think he himself understands that he is no that. He is no longer boring person. He understands that he is no longer that, coward, a hurry, a flurry. I don't believe that he in a of I think he has the last thing left. He the thousands of wishes. He has the most important zeroes. He wanted to first millionaire to ball. I think I it, I hope I can. And then we'll it there. Anyway, I watched again this morning, always bring parallel, I watched what Messi can still do, now I'm looking for some free kick exposition, wait, wait, wait, Marko: Negative there. Hmm. Tim: wait, That's all. Marko: Sit. This Messi, if anyone hasn't seen it, he's last one to play against some Vodac, or Ulmenurg and someone else. And game reminded me of Ronaldinho's against MML Parthees, or was Leeman? And I it the where Ronaldinho's star was on the line. He Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: really far from with a banana-like backhand. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: Messi was the left and the one was on the right, but you can that a Sarnas profile, it was a nice memory for Tim: I that the longer Ronaldo goes on, the more he will ruin his victory Messi. I think Messi is a very loyal opponent, a good red wine. When he is able win, he Marko: No. Tim: is a I think that the few years Ronaldo has been best to and try. Marko: I don't know if I was to that, but if you it I think so. The longer the age is, the longer I would say that his hair has probably a few times. But the longer it takes, the smaller it gets, like Ronaldo. Stoxx and Messi stock... Well, not as much as it is, but Ronaldo stays down and but Messi manages to... Tim: Not busy with him, that's. Marko: And Messi manages to keep up. What's the this? Why and Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: how? It's still moving, not so fast, but the same time it manages to move forward like 10 years ago. Tim: But I think it's interesting that Messi has adapted his style to his age and ability. He's the typical Messi He's older, he's been so many races. He's too many races. He's been in the right place, and he's done magic. But he's adapted... Vanuus, I lay tomato to give them a little bit of service. The word is me. So I'm to stand on the wherever. I don't know. I know. I'm pro. I'm a little bit of a oligarch. I'm pretty sad. Marko: I would to that you the to Ronaldo, Ronaldo is more a hard-working type guy. He just works and and works and his main strengths are somehow physicality and balance. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: And these attributes take much longer to get The older you get, the less you can Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: But since Messi has happened so that God has given of talent, so that he just over, then these qualities are not necessarily chaos, you can't keep up less, but they as a player for still. And I think Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: that's where it in. That Messi has these skills, that it's some kind and ball-eating, but Ronaldo is a kind of a... It's how much it works, it's the physicality. And attributes take time. Tim: No. Marko: Mm-hmm. Yum. Tim: I don't care about politics in football. Football could be football. But that's is. So I think we can now end with football, what we talk Mark. Marko: I'm going F1 and a bag which is always a red car. This time it also a place to put napkin, I would to sleep But the time, the assembly took place, quite a lot of things and here may be context-wise things have changed a bit, so is something else to understand. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: So just watch how Kimi Antonelli is the title leader. Are you team Kimi? I just thought to ask you who you are. Tim: I... I... Well, let's say that I have supported Hamilton during my career. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: But recently I have supported younger people. I was the head coach when he won the and when Kimi joined, I have followed And I have followed Kimi before. Let's that out. But yeah, I like I really hope, let's that I don't want Russell to the Marko: yeah, yeah. Tim: Kimi has a great presentation, but let's I'll cut in with my compliment. Marko: No, I think it's very right that should be a back and forth and if there are any mistakes, we jump in between and we get to the topics we just talked about. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: I'm just you're right. I actually like doing with a sport. Something up and coming. Right from the beginning but the time doing great things. young men and young boys. Tim: Náguóójamál! Marko: Jamal, from Everton, There are lot I watched F2 when Paul Aran was driving there. It Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: very cool. Alec Lerk through, who is my favorite at This kind of... I don't know how to call now. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: I have two Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: hands for yeah, Kimi Antonelli is who is expected to be the man who is in top points. But is he 3rd 4th? Or maybe not Maybe 2-3rd? I would to know. Tim: Two, three and now have a chance to one stage or two stages. One Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: stage is possible. Marko: So there's much to go on and now it's 7pm I the I don't know why I'm it's 5pm and it's And now Kimi Nadalovahetus started his free training session not so much, was he one practice? Was it technical problem? Did he to cut? Then there were comments about it If you're the of it's harder to with It's a cumulative effect. You the next session differently. In the qualification, the a tie or not The first three qualifications had to be started on 16th, and made a very good result, but since Mr. made a good decision, that you the man, grand slam, Tim: Grand Slam May or Marko: yes, just, made grand slam, and now it's Kimi's what you think, is the title expected, is it bit a snitch, or is it still Kimi, absolutely all the drums still in his hand? Tim: Before everything else, to that Grand Slam has Marko: Bye bye. Tim: been the Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: and the in session Qualification Marko: Qualifications, wait, my name is Steve Wait. Tim: and overall victory, I don't know Marko: Yeah, I don't know I can say that everything you best, you Tim: Yeah. Marko: do it all Tim: I don't know, I didn't start it that Now it's somehow decided. I would say that Kimi did it himself as much as she could. Very well. That she was 16th place, 5th place. Okay, Marko: Yes. Tim: it pretty well. I think there will be a seventh place, but there are many people. We'll talk Marko: Torpedo Collapinto came and did it. Tim: But I don't know, I don't think the change has happened. There points, 66 points. So is Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: assumed that 66 points means that Kimi should not drive in two and half times. And Rassul should win all these times. I think that the is still in Kimi. And I think that this ride... Marko: It's Kimi here, okay? Tim: Yeah. And I think that this change in was somehow not enough to such a Monza-like comeback, which was, in my opinion, one exciting things I've Like, in reality, the last ping in Look, who doesn't have any highlights, it was mega-riding. But yeah, that it was to these points back. In my opinion, it was very full-fledged or a very mature ride. It didn't speed up. He didn't do anything crazy at that point, was very stable, only focused on going to the line and still managed to lot. At that point, like the 16th place, I think it was a very, very, very good race. Russell, well, he was little more energetic than ever, when he was to that he could the air. Marko: 0.196 seconds Tim: Yeah. Marko: He's so when he's Tim: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know what you Is it psychological shift or what do you think? Marko: I think it's does it really mean that Russell has some of jokers in his backpack? I wouldn't say that, but it's now Kimi's to And okay, the difference is that there Russell in the it's not that much, but I think Kimi is some point and puts it head. And Rassel has a small momentum too. He has nothing to lose. He is close to doing it, but Kimi has to ride that way As you said, he looking and he a bit of This could be of step down for He should ride all the time and moreover, if he has to think about other things. I think it could him of driving performance But I Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: that Russell, the title should be written this, that Kimi some technical problems, be some of breakdown somewhere But we'll in this sense, he's always the short side, I'm on the other side, that some kind of or that some abilities are in air, that one or two or few people can be the title. But in the last few haven't a big fan because there were some 9 or 7 years where they dominated And I, as Ferrari fan, have been there as and yeah... see you! Tim: Well, asked here in the assessment, what do you think if Kimi should the title this Will the next good season, first all, will he stay in the championship and how he stay? Do you the next good season he is capable of some competition or is he a tough guy? Marko: I don't see that Russell should go anywhere. Or what's the point? If only Russell himself sees that he wants to the team. But I think Mercedes is we have two very good drivers. They don't seem themselves at the that they should somehow solve it, as Hamilton and Rosberg had never been. If Kimi the title, then that's just... I Russell is a 4th and I don't see any where Russell should or what he should do. Tim: But don't think that you can't long-term competition if see the results and the Olympics again. Marko: I think so. Then it again, as it was done. In that sense, think we know that it is possible and as the exchange showed, is possible to win And if it manages to its balance, I think also to Kimi. Kimi has been very double and has driven but I don't see that it or a I it long. I my own personal opinion. I haven't it It's like Michael Schumacher or Senna. I don't know I have been it well. But I it with completely new engine. Where there four very long lines. It's the driving that you can do. If it wasn't for Hungary, I last. Then it wouldn't have first. Tim: Well, first of I hope that there is no end Sumacher, he was impressive person on the But he really had talent. And the thing I think is the previous Nadel exchange or Monsa standup was a big news that Kimi has won more races than Russell in his F1 Marko: Hmm? Tim: career. I was thinking, if you look at the reverse news, that it took Russell 7 years or 8 years, or 6 years to get to Kimi's and get tie and win which is pretty absurd in that case. But yeah, I just think that... Marko: Well, Kimi was right, he right, right, I that it was really already before the F1 championship that he took in He bit worried about the thought that Hamilton just there as it and there Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: was a place. could have another world, Kimi would the same position somewhere Viljems, 3-4 years ago. And actually, Russell would bit track position. I don't when. Tim: Well, I think that I feel that if was supposed to be Kimi's year, I don't know, I think that Russell can't it peacefully. Well, it's a ego-race. You usually about everything that's your it's your year and Kimi, I will look after him, and younger brother, younger brother, and then the younger brother just makes you, well, I at least with one zero things. And then you have to somehow... I know, I feel that Kass is going to very stupid or something, and Russell is the simplest person either. He's always trying get of you. Marko: I Russell. I'm trying think a scenario. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: Hamilton is always a good like Ferraris is. I've been master Even though he different stages of success, he would have been for 11 times. But that's Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: different topic. He Ferrari and Alex Vindjorvatti, and he showed 1-0 But the was that Leclerc was driving over I'll you the camera, it's bit jump. And Leclerc has shown very well that... I think that the champions can come to Ferrari, but no one can compete with him. Hamilton this year, the is still early. Let's what the season brings. If Hamilton is the lead, then I don't see why Rassala should not give up. Tim: I think that Hamilton was... Well, in a way it's a win, but think that parallel is bit... ...unwilling against Hamilton, because he still came... How do you it? I think it was 8-0 with Merse or what was it? That switch is so big that I don't even look at the clerk. I think he's one the important riders. I think Ferrari is problem, not the clerk. Marko: Mmm, Tim: And I think Marko: I'm not guilty. Tim: that Ljubljana is simply that she was too much a and I think she was too much a Ferrari shock. I think she just couldn't believe that one man can take relative, operative decisions. I think that this season, we have a little side bet last year we made a bet Marko, that the clerk would end up higher, I said that Hamilton, I was down Ferrari Särgi. We have the same bet I I win and I really understand the Marko: I say that I pretty sure and we made that bet when Clark was in Hamilton, some kind of 30-40 points down. Let's see how it goes. Tim: I'll you, promise. But 36 laps, safety car decides to help, drives along the the result is a restart and I remember what the curve was. it curve? Marko: Do you think Torpedo... Yeah, stop Torpedo, Tim: And, gentlemen, I'll you first class. Marko: first corner. There are two, how to say, but a timeline, no, storyline, which should Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: mentioned One storyline is that we have a new Daniel Kvijat Torpedo 2.0 from the point Argentina. and what should I and what did you think and how to get into the team and Nors car and Nors wants to win. That's the first The second scenario is our own, how can say, our own waste of And he hopes that the FLAV operator is thinking about more than ever and is thinking about hmmm... We have a double reserve rider here, so maybe he a chance. So, who doesn't have then our own Estonian driver Paul Oran is an alpine reserve rider. And every time I that are some close circumstances in alpine that someone something cheap, then I'm a little bit like this, team, Paul Oran, please turn on lights. Tim: Well, so. I just realized at some point that Paul Arrini's is that... I believe and support him, but I think that the F1 possibility is lost. Kolo Pintek's new leaping will stay longer, so we can hope that he will come a driver and Paul will him But don't there's than that. Marko: Well, it's more like a hope than something realistic. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: Every time I play a piece of or a piece music is something I've price, my first thought is that it's good for Well, Tim: Well, all for the fans I think. Marko: yeah, mostly. I don't believe that anything is holding me I it's a thing to do, but god knows, F1 and especially Flavia Priortore are a kind genius who never how his Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: emotions and thoughts move. I think that's the important even if Kui collabs Pinto, he does one trick like he did before, since he already a big debt And Paul Aron has this thing in so... So the money talking to him. And Aron didn't anything Alpine. But maybe Tim: Yeah. Marko: there is a scenario that could be Maybe Pinto would win the and Aron would the one-time opportunity. He would a life-race. And right now it's a bit of for them to what to KON. Beerman will definitely them, but KON is trying to support them. I saw some interviews that they have a fire going on and they are that they managed to They F3 and F3. And they are trying to get PR and stock back. I don't know. Maybe Aran has some of hope for If I his mother, then... Everything has to ten hands, like tight rope. There's way that... Tim: 100 % sure. I didn't say about I didn't mean to take but Marko: I still don't it. Tim: it's absolutely absurd. I the best. am one of the best. Marko: Mmm, but I'll raise the bar, I'll just... Tim: I think it was a little bit... Too much work. In end, I think, my perspective, whether it was a stupid thing to do, it was, but it was a mistake. Because I think it didn't do anything with us. It was restart. It was a cold meeting. It really was that you missing some points and you were missing some points at time. Marko: Yeah, it a little bit a challenge. Tim: And the that you out of I'm so fond of Käsli and how he's always in Marko: Hmm. Tim: top position. But what about this position? He was a bit aggressive but in Anyway, I'll get back It's a bit a formality. Everyone tries, everyone wants. It's systematic. The club has been doing very well The fact that Norris is... to people out such people should drive in F1. And that when a hate was in the social media, Alpine had to be spread and the media was allowed to do it. So please, I you stop because you did it on the I think it's a bit extreme in Norway too. Well, it's But you could have driven like that. Why like that? I was thinking about the first up, which was a post race interview. I don't know. It's a race to drive. Maybe one thing happens, I drove like I didn't think. We all make mistakes and today it happened. Marko: I don't know, I guess... I think that if the were the main characters and Verstappen was the one who was the there, he wouldn't say the same thing. He's very good it's not easy to say. It's story. But you know, Verstappen, how he reacts to like own team. then I think it's different if he was in the role. Now your point is that it's too much, I think it's a joke and it's a of a social media today and everyone else how fans can everywhere and they get in everywhere. Yeah, like, the driver is wrong, like... I in the episode we talked about whether the should be or put Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: You also that if you work under the that and some of collective partners or those who are always looking for finances, you will eventually fall. So it's the same situation. If you it, it's also different situation where it's not very good presentation idea or it's a bit a And this is a kind mess that is pretty bad. Just looking the team's internal performance, that no one has the biggest victory. Was it with Haasi or I don't remember the name. Tim: cost, you noticed, yeah? Marko: It pays them very hard at because the competitors get as many points and they get zero It was difficult situation. On the hand, should have helped the but the other hand... So we have to give something and then they can take it us. So we Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: are now wondering what we can do. Tim: Well, I think it's a good thing that you did something that was your team. That's a You have to get a license, that's fact. But such big blow or some kind of race that you shouldn't in F1, I think that's a win If he made Marko: Okay. Tim: a mistake, has to get back on he doesn't drive the next stage or maybe he will 5 points in the next stage. But in the end, it's a very big victory him. And from that point view, I it's the first time. It's but I think this year he has made a very good time. Last year before Marko: Yum. Tim: that. yeah. But well, that's it. Marko: I Tim: Yeah. Marko: just one more thing, what would be the question for What is from the safety car? I think that the first safety car came, would be the who put the wall under the The is under barrier, the cars have to by us. The safety car is very logical. And now... Was it the last round the last round was in spot? the Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: And I would say that look at your carefully because the area where they came and where the was, like in the in the parking lot, there were much larger speeds on that spot. But! Not at all, not at One was the other sector, the other was the other sector's end in my opinion. And me, like a question mark reminded me Abu Dhabi in the 2011. I am very... how do I say... Justice police, what is the Estonian word for Justice police. Policenik. Tim: yeah, okay. Marko: Everyone has to be new person for this Yes, when this situation happened, was a drama scene that won. Overestimates, versus the is soon the only thing you can or can't kill. I it's very interesting. But it's... The car was as the Why not put the safety car analog situation at the end? It was just because the viewer would be very interesting. That's not right either. Tim: But wasn't it logical that when they were in last lap, they didn't there to meet So there was there safety car coming. That versus Tappen and Russell, you rode faster than then you were on the They already ended their ride. So what's the alternative? That you take the golden ticket and get to the finish? Marko: Okay, we will learn test. Good point. Tim: Because if there would be one more then I have won. But I the idea that Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: there is no point doing that the corner is so-called racing with yellows and then on hand it was bit more that he would drive the winning race, this lap is over. But there more. Marko: Okay, okay, yeah, So if the double-waved, double-edged Tim: Yeah. Marko: zone is just as compared to the safe car, then yeah, okay, I won't these points back, but I'll just... yeah. So I'll think better. I I it the was like a birthmark. It didn't go too wide or too slow, it made a situation where the turbo wasn't too high. I can completely Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: deny it, but I'll try to a picture. The turbo wasn't too high, and since the turbo was low, it didn't boost And then if he a boost, he didn't speed up as fast as Verstappen did. And then next time he Verstappen. Chain of Events? Tim: Okay, mother of births. Marko: Well, whatever. Something random. The thing is, he didn't have the boost button, which is very important a lot of new stuff. And then Verstappen didn't have it, Rassal didn't have And next time he Verstappen. I'm little Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: bit disappointed about that. Tim: I'm asking in if you think that... Astonit get a CH at least one stage normally driven by Aston Marko: Who is this? I don't know. Tim: Martinit Marko: Aston Martin? What does he as country? Tim: Let's say that we it like this nobody gets lost. Marko: Hmmmm Tim: Okay, so you don't need it. so no one passes them more than once. Marko: I think this will happen, think this will happen. It's that bad. But it's pretty sad that F2 cars are obviously faster than these. And especially considering that last year Aston Martin was in of speed and thinking. fun. Tim: I'm a fan of I don't know how it wrong or how it on. Because the that the is You buy a top man and you bring him through the most expensive car Marko: I don't know what the father's role is this or what the are, but the main thing I can understand is that they already bought a new engine for Tim: Honda. Marko: They bought a Honda for and Honda can't produce their own engine as needed. The aerodynamics are pretty good and they are corners but if the are there then it's hard to in the lead. Tim: But why did you Why did you these? Marko: I don't know why it was necessary it. Maybe it some of I don't know. I haven't that far either. But what surprised me was the of the F1 president after... Was it after the Monza or something? After some race. He was commenting on the Alonso. He said want to and that he had to go it he wanted to. And what else do to make Aston Martin faster? Again, not taking it Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: seriously and I'm not talking the but that was the point. I'm asking one president how can you talk that? It's a clear, one-man show. I don't know what the is. Does the role of depend on whole orchestra? It was pretty curious. Tim: Yeah, so where the one? yeah. Yeah, I would say that they end up least one ride where they have least two times passed. Marko: I don't know, it should be... Tim: All we got past the pick again. Marko: some kind of Shanghai. Is Shanghai not too far away? I'm sure that there or a city where they don't pass Where are of red signs or where there are lot of safety cars. think some cities have this. And then have the safety car back, they back again. Tim: Now, Lord, I'm a Marko: There they are, unless they break, then it's fine. Where exactly? Random thing again. We have two or three places. Do I remember wrongly or am wrong or am wrong? Do I have any driving experience this year? I remember anything. Tim: I don't remember. Marko: I don't care, because the last time I rode... Tim: No, something is wrong, I think I don't remember. Marko: I don't so. I'm sure I So, like, Tim: What the... Marko: free practice stuff has happened, but in the it's driving with dry. Because I don't have any eyes in front of that someone would take me somewhere their spare tires. Once in I to You might get a little bit a in so that you can 5 second lag in But it's Tim: All gone. Marko: not a big deal. Tim: I can't believe the fact that I'm recording this. I'm going continue watching. I'll it Marko: Yeah, okay. No, no, no, no, Tim: I take it a mental perspective. Marko: F1 TV, yeah. And now the second important question, what commentators do watch with? Does F1 TV watch Or do watch Tim: Internationale. Marko: with... Yeah, Surban is my man. Applause, Michel, Jubaan! Great, right? Tim: I think some stages would be covered, maybe some be covered in Europe. don't the but some things would in such a way. Marko: I will come back to the package once There is one more that I would like to tell. Red Bull actually did a very strong performance. Tim: Hmm. Marko: And see if it would have won and got the second and third place. And maybe if Piastrib would have in the spot bottle, versus Tappen. And if Red Bull would have tactical decisions. So I don't know, maybe it would have won. But what you think? Is it same as before? Tim: I don't believe it. I think they have shown the same thing at some stages. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: Max wasn't a good driver, but overall he wasn't very easy driver. He the podium and it hasn't been so catastrophic. I have also been to the strategy, maybe I something differently. But in the round, Pjastri was faster, he couldn't beat him. He had all potential in the but he couldn't beat McLaren in the final round. A bit of a gap, but in the final round... ...yeah, the too. Marko: The refs were the ones that fit. Tim: But I don't believe it. think that Red Bull is in the top 3-4 I think overall, whole battle, they did a lot of things. I think that Mercedes... I cleared the Ferraris and Red Bulls. Each one could potentially win, but Mercedur is clearly in the field. Marko: Yeah. Tim: The above three are more less same. I don't believe that anything change Somehow it will win. Let's so. Marko: I started to positively surprised, but since I'm not big fan I'll it positively. I was just surprised by Red Bull. It qualifier in 8th finally ended up second day. And in the you can at night, but still, think was the powerful race, I would say, at my price. Tim: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Marko: And... and... and Red Bull, okay, these... if I correctly, what Red Bull? They started producing and it was just... It It Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: was amazing. Was it this year, last year, they were of top speed? Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: It's a completely unbelievable achievement Well, can you compare Honda, which is currently... I think they have sport for years. Tim: Yeah. Marko: So, Red Bull is absolutely a must. One thing is to be win. Tim: Well, in the I would say that the the men's team falls, the more it is to watch. Even if there Marko: Absolutely. Tim: their favorites, always adds to the excitement and the fun. I hope Marko: them. Tim: they are behind. I don't know, think most the I've doing are somehow somehow have you had anything? Marko: I think so too. One fun fact to end this. We talked about... What's the name of where you do the best Grand Slam. There's a statistic. Every time Hajar came to someone... Did he first Grand Slam? Once Hajar came the podium, he an Aster. Now was Russell and once again it a third time. Which Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: is an interesting statistic or whole combination. Tim: Let's that Kimi the pole and Hager finishes on the as Or let's say that Kimi next the pole, Hager finishes the bottom. Like that. Then we'll good time. Marko: I that Ferrari is 1-2 and all sessions are 1-2 and then I'll the card Tim: But that case, the most interesting is the first Marko: next time. Maybe once more. Tim: Okay. And after that, there big game of Portugal is playing against Denmark and we'll see if Ronaldo will it out or not. After that, Marko: See you Tim: looking forward to but the backhand is the same shit. I've the games. Marko: Yeah, Snooze Fest is that name. Tim: Yeah. I can understand why you hate it so but we'll it later. I'm thinking about the condi break. Marko: Yeah, I'd say no. Tim: But yeah, I don't know. Let's our thoughts and tell the that we're for the light. We're to here, but we're not going to We'll practice and maybe time we'll to a better quality. If someone... Listen, watch until the I don't know, then you can subscribe somewhere. Apple, Spotify and YouTube. All with the same name, Paul Kalmer, with two R's, because one R was taken, so I to put And see, listen, talk next time. Marko: That's right, and since we we are on the ground, and Tim can be it's not 100 % necessary. there is any feedback, comment, what is missing, or whatever else, Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: then you write us you email us, we will to learn from you. So, see you! Tim: See you! Marko: Thank you too, have nice day, 25th of Tim: Bye.