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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 2-20-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Leggy the big news yesterday in the NFL the cap
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  Speaker 1: raises again anywhere from twenty two to twenty seven million
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in that ballpark. And I made this analogy earlier.
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  Speaker 1: My wife calls it girl math where she gets something
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  Speaker 1: from Amazon for thirty bucks. She returns it gets something
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  Speaker 1: else for thirty bucks and says, I got it for free.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what Broncos fans are thinking of? With the
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  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson deferred money? That the cap went up, so
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  Speaker 1: that means it's less money that we It doesn't work
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  Speaker 1: that way, does.
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  Speaker 3: It, Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, well it goes up for everybody. Is the
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  Speaker 4: Bronco problem. You know, if it just went up for them,
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  Speaker 4: it would be awesome. But your dead money is your
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  Speaker 4: dead money, no matter what the cap is. And it
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  Speaker 4: just means you have less room to play with than
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  Speaker 4: some of the other teams, That's all. But it you know,
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  Speaker 4: certainly it helps you if the top number is bigger.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, as you know, you've got more in the
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  Speaker 4: bank as it were, But it is it tells you
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  Speaker 4: where you know, again we heard so much about you know,
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  Speaker 4: is there less buzz for the Super Bowl? And then
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  Speaker 4: it sets a viewership record, you know for the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: It just shows you where the NFL is right now.
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  Speaker 4: The cap will go up fifty three million dollars at
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  Speaker 4: minimum over the last two years alone, and it it
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  Speaker 4: always staggers me. I was covering the Steelers the first
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  Speaker 4: year the cap was coming in and it was thirty
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  Speaker 4: four million per team. So just think about that for
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  Speaker 4: a minute.
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  Speaker 2: So when you all it means is your old man?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. And gas was whatever again?
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  Speaker 2: Right? A buck three?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: When you have the cap jump up like that, do
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  Speaker 2: all teams follow suit? Or is there like, is there
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  Speaker 2: a ceiling and a floor to what teams spend in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL?
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  Speaker 5: Remind me, no, there is vic There is a floor
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  Speaker 5: in the CBA now that the Players Union has wanted
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  Speaker 5: to raise the floor on several occasions because a few teams,
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  Speaker 5: uh you know, take the floor to heart and kind
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  Speaker 5: of stay down there.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, there is a floor.
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  Speaker 4: You do have to spend a certain amount on your
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  Speaker 4: on your players. It isn't just a floor for expenses,
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  Speaker 4: it's a floor for for payroll. So uh, that is
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  Speaker 4: one safeguard that the players have in the CBA that
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  Speaker 4: that does help them. They don't have many in there,
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  Speaker 4: but that is one that helps them.
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  Speaker 2: More money, more money, more money. It's all coming in. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers are going to kick things off in Brazil
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  Speaker 2: either going to London more you know, the Germany all
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  Speaker 2: over the place. What I guess they're getting money out
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  Speaker 2: of that. Jeff, what's the end game here? You think
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  Speaker 2: for the National Football League in terms of this global
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  Speaker 2: expansion or this global massaging of the fan base, is
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  Speaker 2: to try to get more bread.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the search. I mean, they want a
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  Speaker 4: bigger global footprint. You know, I think there was a
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  Speaker 4: long time they were behind you know, baseball and and
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  Speaker 4: the NBA in particular, and hockey has always had a
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  Speaker 4: bigger global footprint because the rosters are a global footprint.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's the NFL is different.
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  Speaker 4: We there aren't many countries that play football as much
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  Speaker 4: as we do, so it's you know, they have to
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  Speaker 4: sort of bring it to the masses and spread it
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  Speaker 4: that way. And you know they've had there is more
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  Speaker 4: sort of flag football in other nations or more international presence,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that's what they're looking for, more fans,
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  Speaker 4: you know, to guard against if if they lose fans,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for whatever reason domestically that they have a
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  Speaker 4: they have other things going, but they they always want
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  Speaker 4: to be bigger. I mean, that's why they play on
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  Speaker 4: Wednesday this year, That's why they play on Thursdays now,
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  Speaker 4: That's why they're seventeen games now why there it will
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  Speaker 4: be a cat fight to get the eighteenth game. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they want inventory and they want fans, and they're always
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  Speaker 4: on the hunt to do it. And when Roger Goodell
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  Speaker 4: became commissioner, the two things the people who knew him
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  Speaker 4: best told.
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  Speaker 3: Me to look out for were watch how hard he pushes.
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  Speaker 4: For international games, particularly in London, and watch how much
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  Speaker 4: he dislikes the Pro Bowl. And we have seen both
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  Speaker 4: those things come to fruition.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy, Leggy, is that we looked this
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  Speaker 1: up yesterday. I was like, gosh, you're playing games in Germany. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering how many German people like the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: And there's there's eighty five million people there. And for
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  Speaker 1: a Bucks Seahawks game, they averaged three million viewers when
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  Speaker 1: they had a German announcer calling it, which is.
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  Speaker 4: Back in the day when the Old World League was
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  Speaker 4: going the German. The teams in Germany did the best.
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  Speaker 4: The Berlin Thunder, the Frankfurt Galaxy. They were always among
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  Speaker 4: the best moneymakers, the most followed. I knew somebody who
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  Speaker 4: worked for the Berlin Thunder for a season and he
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  Speaker 4: could not believe the kind of passion they had for
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  Speaker 4: for American football. No, they were digging it way back then,
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  Speaker 4: so it's not shocking. And I think you know they've
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  Speaker 4: been it's been mostly a stadium issue, trying to get
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  Speaker 4: in the schedule in this in the stadiums there, it's
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  Speaker 4: been harder for them than scheduling in London. But think
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  Speaker 4: about what how powerful the NFL is. When they built
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  Speaker 4: the stadium in Tottenham, they built it to not ac
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  Speaker 4: comedy just that the soccer team, you know, the Spurs.
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  Speaker 4: They built it to accommodate an American football field with
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  Speaker 4: the requisite sidelines.
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  Speaker 3: They spent the money to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Is that an expectation of an expansion someday? Maybe? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: is that is that why you do it? Or just
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  Speaker 2: to have just to have these games, these one off games?
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  Speaker 4: Well, just tell you how much they how well they
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  Speaker 4: do with the one off games most I mean that
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  Speaker 4: they're willing to do that, knowing full well that international
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  Speaker 4: expansion could work in some fashion, but has tons of
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  Speaker 4: things that would have to be overcome, including currency and
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  Speaker 4: what you do with the players in the offseason and
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  Speaker 4: all of that.
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  Speaker 1: But oh, what a nightmare if I'm trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out how how many pounds the quarterback is making, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Hey, thirty five years old, real quick.
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  Speaker 4: We're having OTAs you know, May twelfth to May fourteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, fun with that.
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  Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, they're voluntary. You know, there's
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  Speaker 4: a whole things you got to worry about. But now
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  Speaker 4: they've they've wanted to do this for so long, and
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, I think they're just getting started because
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  Speaker 4: if the income equals a home game, you know, more
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  Speaker 4: teams are going to be willing to do it. It's again,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's not great for the home traditional home fans
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  Speaker 4: because again, if a game's in Europe, it's not in
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  Speaker 4: somebody stadium here.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the Jags are there all the time because
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  Speaker 2: they can't draw flies anyway. But hey, at nineteen ninety,
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  Speaker 2: I had a buddy who was an exchange student in London. Right,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to school there for a year, blah blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So he and the other American dudes
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  Speaker 2: would go over to the park and they play football, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to Intel whatever they're doing, du he said,
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  Speaker 2: And the people would give us the funniest looks, like
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  Speaker 2: what the hell are you doing? What is that thing? Right?
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  Speaker 2: So that's I mean, it's a long time ago. I
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  Speaker 2: understand that, but I mean people had no idea what
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  Speaker 2: a football even it looked like. But what are you
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  Speaker 2: guys doing when you're throwing it to this guy overhand
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  Speaker 2: and all this, I guess all the Londoners were totally perplexed.
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  Speaker 2: And now you can't have a state. I mean, Tottenham
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  Speaker 2: hotspurs ERTs, they serve a lot of fans, right, Wembley
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  Speaker 2: you can put a lot of fans in that sucker,
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  Speaker 2: and now you can't get enough. You can't get enough
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  Speaker 2: seats for it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Wembley seats eighty thousands for NFL football.
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  Speaker 4: And you could tell the difference between the two Bronco
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  Speaker 4: trips twenty ten.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was kind of you know, fans.
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  Speaker 4: Were they all showed up in the different jerseys and
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of a sort of a party. And
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  Speaker 4: the last time they went you could tell people were
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  Speaker 4: there for the game, and it was it was just
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  Speaker 4: that you could just feel the difference in their level
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  Speaker 4: of expectation of what they were getting.
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  Speaker 1: Uh oh, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Soon before the Broncos signed Taysom Hill.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he would get a long look when available.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's the I think any former Saint is
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  Speaker 4: on the list. That's that's how I put it.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you make of that? By the way,
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  Speaker 1: is that something I know that guys when they're in
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  Speaker 1: positions of power, they hire people that are familiar with
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  Speaker 1: and they're comfortable with. But this feels like a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm not sure it's a great uh way to
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  Speaker 4: do things that I'm not sure it's been proven to
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  Speaker 4: have worked.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's like when the Belichick's former assistance would
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  Speaker 4: run and sign all the former Patriots. It didn't help
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  Speaker 4: them win anymore games, I don't think. But I think
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  Speaker 4: they feel like it helps them get their message across better.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's more a in the building rather than
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  Speaker 4: on the field thing.
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  Speaker 1: I want to make.
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  Speaker 3: They need a backup quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: They've got two free agents as a backup quarterback, so
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  Speaker 4: they gotta have they gotta have somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you backup quarterback, back, tight end, back up running
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  Speaker 1: back by whatever you want. Taysom Hill a special team
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  Speaker 1: for sure. I'm gonna make a comparison here because I
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  Speaker 1: saw the news yesterday that Jamar Chase is looking for
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  Speaker 1: upwards of forty million dollars a year, and Cincinnati, by
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  Speaker 1: dragging their feet on this contract, is costing themselves money
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  Speaker 1: in these negotiations. And if I said the Broncos top
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  Speaker 1: priority this offseason should be signing Nick Benito now as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to waiting, is that tru or false?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think we're gonna find out what they really
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  Speaker 4: think of Nick Bonito by how they do it. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they signed Certain a full year plus out because he's
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  Speaker 4: pats Are Tan and that's how they feel about him.
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  Speaker 4: They signed Quinn Minors a year out because that's how
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  Speaker 4: they feel about him. We'll see how they feel about
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  Speaker 4: Nick Bonito. But the longer you let it go. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you can sign a guy early, but you got to
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  Speaker 4: do what you did with Cirtan and Minors. You got
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  Speaker 4: to convince them you're signing them at the top of
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  Speaker 4: the market and that there's a benefit for them to stay.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Certan did the ultimate. He signed a true extension.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't even make him blow up a year on
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  Speaker 4: his deal. He signed a true extension that kicks in
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  Speaker 4: after his fifth year option. So, uh, you know that
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  Speaker 4: a lot went right to get that done in their
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  Speaker 4: salary cap situation.
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  Speaker 3: But I think they should be talking to Nick.
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  Speaker 4: Benito's people just to get a feel for all, right,
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  Speaker 4: what's gonna take to see if he can get it done? Uh,
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  Speaker 4: because you know, if you wait, you know that you
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  Speaker 4: end up probably competing with more people to keep them.
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  Speaker 4: But he is the biggest contract question they have, I think,
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  Speaker 4: even in this free agency as well as next.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting to late February. When do you start your list?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've been going off seasons.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my bad, Okay, my bad. So he's got a
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  Speaker 2: running list going on.
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  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I gotta go. You gotta make a
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  Speaker 4: list of about six hundred to get a hundred deal.
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  Speaker 2: That's your brain. Damn, it's not mine, Thank god.
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  Speaker 3: It's moronic. But I think he does the day before
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  Speaker 3: the hobby.
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  Speaker 2: Well maybe he just throws stuff at the dark board
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  Speaker 2: the day before. I don't know. But what I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: is I'm reading a lot about cam Ward, a lot
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  Speaker 2: about cam Ward, and the latest the latest quote from
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  Speaker 2: him is you're gonna draft me or you're not. If
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  Speaker 2: you don't draft me, that's your fault. You've got to
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  Speaker 2: remember you're the same team. That's got to play me
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of my career, and I'll remember that
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  Speaker 2: this guy's got a lot going for him. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it's your door as well. Are we talking? What
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  Speaker 2: are we talking here? Again? Quarterbacks always hold more value,
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  Speaker 2: but could they be one too?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what do you what do you think they
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't be on this board?
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  Speaker 4: But it's not a great board, so the quarterbacks are
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  Speaker 4: gonna get pushed up. Yeah, hard for me to believe
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  Speaker 4: that both of them, wait very long, it's right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's very much a two quarterback class too.
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  Speaker 4: I mean as far as who would you take in
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  Speaker 4: the first round, Uh, it's really two right now. And
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  Speaker 4: I've had some scouts tell me that these two quarterbacks
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  Speaker 4: would be somewhere between third and fifth last year on
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  Speaker 4: the list, So, uh, this is not These guys aren't
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  Speaker 4: the slam dunks, I guess I'm saying now.
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  Speaker 3: Again, hard for me.
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  Speaker 4: To believe that somebody at top of the board isn't
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  Speaker 4: taking a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Because well that Tennessee needs one to get one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee needs one and theoretically Cleveland needs one.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Well, most people think Tennessee might shop to pick
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  Speaker 4: the folks I talked to in the league that think
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  Speaker 4: they might shop the pick and hope that they can
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  Speaker 4: get the guy they like.
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  Speaker 3: But again, that's that's always risky.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you're at the one spot, you hold
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  Speaker 4: all the cards and you pretty much hope to never
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  Speaker 4: be there again. So that's that's always the the thing
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  Speaker 4: you got to balance.
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  Speaker 2: Out lay win. Are you going to band camp in Indy?
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  Speaker 4: I go to band camp Monday, so I'll be I'll
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  Speaker 4: be my thirty ninth band I'm going.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to Combine.
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask you something on that though, because I
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  Speaker 1: am curious. I know the Combine is, Hey, you can
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  Speaker 1: watch guys run forties and do the drills, but you're
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  Speaker 1: you're there like most reporters are, because it's a big
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  Speaker 1: gala that features some of the more important prominent figures
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  Speaker 1: in the sport, GM's head coaches, executive.
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  Speaker 2: It's a retreat.
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  Speaker 1: It's a retreat. What's the number one thing if I
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  Speaker 1: got you in front of George Peyton, Sean Payton, UH,
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  Speaker 1: scouts executives, whoever, what's the one question you most want
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  Speaker 1: to ask when you're there at Indy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm really always looking to see what they really think
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  Speaker 4: of players. You know, there's there's what you say publicly,
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  Speaker 4: what you can say publicly. But I I want to
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  Speaker 4: the folks I know and I get in front of
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  Speaker 4: every year. I want to know what they really think,
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  Speaker 4: uh of of you know, the real evaluations.
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  Speaker 3: And that's that's always the most helpful to me.
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  Speaker 2: What did Sean Payton say about bon Nix last year
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  Speaker 2: the company?
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  Speaker 3: You can tell he liked him. Vin Now, he wouldn't.
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  Speaker 4: He was trying very hard to hold his cards close
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  Speaker 4: to his vest, but there was no question that you
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  Speaker 4: could tell he liked him. And but the combine for
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  Speaker 4: coaches is different. They're just getting started on the draft, guys.
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  Speaker 4: In a lot of ways that the Broncos coaches have
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  Speaker 4: been doing free agency up until this week. So like
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  Speaker 4: all the assistants have been looking at the free agents
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  Speaker 4: in their position groups, you know, if their coordinator, they're
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  Speaker 4: looking at all the free agents on their side of
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  Speaker 4: the ball. So they've been doing free agency really really
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  Speaker 4: hard because it opens earlier than the draft, So coaches
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  Speaker 4: are just getting started on the draft when they when
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  Speaker 4: they start heading to the combine.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagwell at ESPN dot Com joined us every single
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  Speaker 1: Thursday always appreciate the time and the insight.
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  Speaker 2: Legging.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk next week.
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  Speaker 2: Bank called combine geez, it's one.
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  Speaker 1: He probably does the same thing when you say you're
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  Speaker 1: going the morning skate, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, I'm going to France for the eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to see the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 1: He had a boy. Legging had a boy that is
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagwell at ESPN dot com. All conversations with Leggy
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  Speaker 1: brought you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers ib
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  Speaker 1: e W Local sixty eight. Start with a job and
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  Speaker 1: with a career.
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  Speaker 2: That is funny.
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  Speaker 6: He says, you go to France and you see the
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  Speaker 6: same exact thing. I'm going to Italy this summer to
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: see the same exact thing. Family, very minimal. But why
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: are we so comfortable just seeing? Like why should I
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: should be going elsewhere? I should be seeing other parts
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: of the world. But you should be the progue or
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: I don't care, but I why, you know what I mean?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: He should be something like that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I heard a really good explanation from somebody who is
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: he's immigrated to the United States, He's from somewhere in
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Europe I can't remember, and he goes, I remember having
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: conversations with all of my buddies in Europe about like
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Americans are so on cultured and they don't know how
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world works and all this different stuff,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: and God, you need a car to go anywhere, And
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: he goes, if you come to the United States, you
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: come to find out they have basically fifty countries inside
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: of their country, pretty much like everywhere you go to,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: like Germany. Germany's this big, and it takes you a
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: couple hours to drive anywhere in Germany, and he goes,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I've been to the South, which was completely different from
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the West Coast, which is different from the Northeast, which
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: is different from the Midwest.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Languages aren't different, I mean for the most part.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know. But but Vick, you lived in Texas
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and you lived here. It's a different kind of world
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you're living in.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: So when you go back to Omaha, do you go
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: back to the same cow farm? Do you do the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: same cows? Do you alter that you what do you do?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Not all that much different from here? Actually really not.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: There's no mountains. Not all that much different.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: You're saying that Omaha and Denver the same.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I said, not all that much different. It's certainly, certainly
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: more similar. I was certainly way more similar than if
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I went to California.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you about Italy. The northern part is mountainous.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You got mountains and you got cold Italians. Oh, welcome
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to geography class, Hey, pork chop, I'm talking here. Then
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: you go sit. All the coolies move south, down to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the down to the boot, down to the toe, right
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: across from Sicily. They all want to be down there
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: in the Mediterranean. You just have to do with him.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Comparing Omaha to Denver, I'm saying Italy is very different
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: from the top to the bottom, like Minnesota. You know
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: what I watched last night? I watched Fargo. You ever
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: watched Fargo? I watched it again. Oh don't you know?
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Oh you betcha, Oh you bet cha? All that kind
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: of crap. It's a hell of all different than la
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Ain't it same thing in Italy.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. We have like our own little
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: mini cultures and all around the country.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Normandy is way different than Paris. I can I mean,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: night and day you have red rocks and Omaha.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Nope, hm hmm.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: What do you got you put together? Like? Uh?
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Get the second most famous zoos in the country.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: They put together like five shipping containers and sit around
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: on those and watch them and connect. Can get down
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: there and down tonnec there you have met labs in Omaha. Hundreds.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we do.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Hundreds of them. I'm sure.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we do.