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09 - Adam Resch, Real estate & the natural landscape · Reframe

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Have you ever wondered what truly fuels a creative mind?
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_02: What ignites their passions and drives their creativity?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm the McGuire and the triumph on our photographer.
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  SPEAKER_02: On the moment I step into the water photography, I have been captivated by the community and the stories behind the winds.
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  SPEAKER_02: Join me as we dive into humble beginnings, explore artistic visions, and discover how we as a collective reframe our minds to the power of creativity.
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  SPEAKER_02: Before we dive into this episode, I'd like to give a quick shout-out to the incredible thing at each filter.
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  SPEAKER_03: Today we're joined with Adam Resch, a professional real estate and interior photographer who has a passion for natural landscape photography.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, my dining room.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_03: It's the bonus of this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Take it on the road.
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  SPEAKER_03: We can we can record anywhere we go.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the show, Adam.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_03: Nice to have you here.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's good good to join you guys.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: How how what did you get up to this morning?
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this morning I had uh two shoots on uh for two clients, different clients.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um one was in Manley and one was in Mossman.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the one in Manley was a very nice place.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_01: It was five million dollar apartment.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: So pretty expensive.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's cheap.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: So they want tons of photos, which is great for me because you know, the more photos you do, yeah, you know, the more you can charge as well.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and that one was 13 photos, so that was a good invoice.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then the next one was just uh uh a rental property um for a client in uh Mossman.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: Now I don't have many rental clients, but this client um I've had from the beginning, so I've just I'm pretty loyal to my clients.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't really want to um get rid of them unless they're done something bad or not paid invoices.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I've kept her on from pretty much near near the beginning of uh my career as I went out of my own.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So to give a bit of a context for our listeners and the ones that don't know you, let's um take it back to where you started.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I started um in high school, actually.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um funnily enough, I had a passion for sports photography.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um pretty much I would would pretty much um go up on the sidelines at Brookval Oval.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: And um I'd jump the fence and hang out with all the other photographers on the sidelines.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: And at the time I had a 500mm F8 lens with my EOS 300 film camera.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_01: And um it was so slow.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was not getting the shots that these guys were getting with their 400mm f2.8s or 600mm f4s, whatever they had.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: But one of the guys was like, Yeah, just huddle in with us.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: Security won't see you.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: So I pretty much just followed them up and down the sideline looking like I was like a real professional photographer.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's pretty good, I think.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I'll be able to get away with that this these days because security.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_01: Security is a lot more harsher these days.
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  SPEAKER_01: But so I was into sports photography.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then in year 10, um uh in art class is when I first started to pick up a camera.
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  SPEAKER_01: And pretty much um, yeah, it's from there, I really, really just loved how to create um uh photos and the dark room.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I really loved as well.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh pretty much I just loved it, and nothing else in high school I was as good at.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I pretty much in year 11 and 12 that actually was a dedicated photography course uh at um in in high school.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: And it was only a C subject, so it didn't really count to any UAIs or anything like that, but I didn't care because I loved it.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I just went for it.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I topped the class in year 11 and 12, and after that I was like, okay, this is something I'm good at.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: I love it, I'm gonna continue this.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like it had to be, it's the passion that's been going forever.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's been going forever.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's ebbs and flows of passion, I would say.
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  SPEAKER_01: So at the start was the sort of the sports, but that sort of faded pretty quickly, and I really have a passion for for for landscape and nature.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and in 2006 I studied at Ultima um in the city uh in Sydney.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that was a one-year full-time course, and there I sort of learnt the more technical fundamentals um and working on like four by five cameras as well, which is a lot of mathematics involved.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um and really um the four by the four by five um Velvia and Provia, I was in awe by the look of it um at the time.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so yeah, that was a year and I learned so much there.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: And um it was it was good um to get all the the learnings and uh the they they tell you you don't you either have the creative vision there or you don't.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: They go, we can teach you the technical basis, but if you don't have the um the the creative, we we can't teach you that.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: There's other courses in like um uni courses out there that are more sort of creative based.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that was it was a more of a technical um based um uh course.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: But they have obviously their input with all their creative vision and and and and whatnot.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_03: So how how does the uh the education part of that play into what you do today?
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_03: Does that did that give you like a beautiful pivotal direction to go from the education system and basically put you in the right direction to build a career?
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it did.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um it obviously taught me um they took they they did teach like the um the composition and and and whatnot.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: And you launched learnt every genre at the time.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: So at the at the stage, yeah, every genre you sort of you've got you did your portraits, your product photography.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, you you did it all pretty much.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: You obviously didn't do landscape because it's more studio based um when you were doing the Prack class.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: But they would give you an insight to all genres.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um they had a whole range of um of different teachers that were pretty much um you could say like they had a background of one had a background more for sports, one had a background more for um travel, one had a little background for product.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: So all these guys would come in and give their little insight as well.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: Then you had the main teachers as well that were were there.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_02: So how long did it take after the course until you started in your real estate game?
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: So when I was um in the course um there, I had no idea that I'd be ending up as a real estate photographer for the last 15 years.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like in 2006, I could have continued on at the end of that that um that course and done a diploma, which is another two years part-time, but I decided not to.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I in 2007 I was still working at a camera shop in uh all the beaches and there I was just pretty much trying to figure out what I wanted to do.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um and um at the end of the year it sort of came up at an opportunity in a marketing company in um in Surrey Hills in Sydney and from there on I was a real estate photographer um full time for three years.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: And there I pretty much learnt e everything you need to know about real estate photography from all my um my seniors there.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um they they taught me everything and it was kind of I wasn't a great real estate photographer at first, but it took about one year of just them hammering, hammering me out with the jobs, and then I was yeah, I was I was loving it and the agents were liking my work and I was like, yeah, this is pretty good.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: I really like this.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna continue this.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I did that for three years, and I after three years, they were just hammering too much, and I was like, hold on a second, I can I can do this on my own.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna go out on my own.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: So in 2011, I yeah, decided, no, this is it.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go out on my own.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna take the gamble.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_03: Paid off by the sounds of it.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: What were the challenges of um leaving that solid um three-year job that you had and then going out on your own?
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: What were some of the biggest challenges?
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the challeng the challenges uh you face are obviously accumulating clients.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: So what I had with them at um when I was was there, I had uh when I left, I had a sort of like a freelance contract with them where they would just give me jobs when I was available while I could go out and hunt for you know new clients.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um and it took it took several months for me to to to figure out um you know how to sort of get more clients and and how to sort of yeah, how to manage the clients.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: Because I I just I rushed into it.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I've had it, I've had enough working for other people, now I want to do this myself.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it took, yeah, it took some time, but I'm so glad I I I took the gamble and and and went out.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Because now it's what do we now, 2011 I went out since 13 years coming up to and I I would never look back now.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like I could never work for someone else now.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_03: In in that 13 years, how do you think your uh professional style was developed?
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, you wouldn't be shooting the same as you were back then.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: And so what's brought that forward, which keeps you bringing in the high-end clients?
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a combination of uh high attention to detail, I would say, um, along with your creative vision of with real estate agents.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: I obviously do for property developers and architects too, so it's kind of different for them.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_01: But for real estate agents, they generally want the more wider angle type shots.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: But lately, in the last few years, I've sort of been able to bring in sort of more creative style of shooting, which is more so like straight on.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um sometimes you can do like two vertical shots and like with a white strip in the middle and stitch that together so it still works for online templates.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: So there has been a lot more availability to get more creative than than there was when I first started.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think there's a um a change in the landscape from when you first started um real estate photography to the way uh now?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like do you think it's more uh attention to quantity instead of quality in it these days?
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you've got you have to really figure out what who you want to market to.
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  SPEAKER_01: So do you want to be the low-end real estate?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you want to be that middle of the range, or do you want to be high, high end?
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: So you've got to really figure out where you fit in the market.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: And where I fit in the market is probably I would say mid-range to maybe getting into that high range.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'm affordable, but not too cheap.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, I'm getting an amazing product, I like to say, with my real estate stuff.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: So um, so that's a combination um of yeah, obviously shooting on on the job, attention to detail on the job, uh, and editing as well, like the the way how it looks in the end product.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and your attention to where your chairs are laid out too.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I have a thing.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: I have a we know because we've been out on we've been out on a couple of shoots with Adam and yeah, the you're just sitting there looking at the chairs and he's like, that's wrong.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_02: You're like, what are you looking at?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, the chairs, they've got to be even gapped in between.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: They have to be, yeah.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_03: Do you have any like crazy nightmare stories when you're like you've rocked up to a property and you had to like maybe rearrange like a whole room or something to to to actually give a good photo?
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, many a times.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: At the start, I'll be going back like maybe 10 years ago, people didn't have their places presented as nicely as they do today, because today they they care um a bit more because there's all these shows now, like the block, for instance.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like they everyone's watching these shows, so they care about so much more when they want to sell their place because they want to get top dollar.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: But it's morely the tenant of properties you've got to watch out for.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: So um I've had a f I've had a few encounters with the tenants told me to, yeah, they swear to me to get the hell out.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: But um, you know, you just you just go what the agent wants you to do, you get out or you want to keep shooting.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but there has been there has been um jobs in the in the past where you just you walk in there and you're like, what is this place?
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: What what what is the agent doing to me?
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Why why have they kicked this tenant out and got this place, you know, looking a lot nicer.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna present better for them, for their marketing and for for their client.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: I know one, I know one horror story that he had on a chute.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: We turned up to it, I I followed him around for a day and we and we went out and the the um tenant thought it was a good idea to smash a beehive to get rid of them and it just upset them.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_02: Flying around the flying around these bees and I got stung in the nose.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you got stung on the way to the car.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like a send-off for you.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: Get out of my house.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thanks out of what have you done to me.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: Is it so is it like a is it like an additional fee if you have to do cleaning, or is it like you reschedule if it's really bad?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_03: Well there.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: I've never put a cleaning fee on, but I probably should.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: Depends how much cleaning, I guess.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, I haven't put a cleaning fee on.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: I just you take it with a grain of salt, like because most properties are good these days.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: You just you just get it done.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: Most properties are good, so you just you get your hands dirty.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't mind if my hand's dirty.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: So or flipping a cot upside down and shoot from inside it.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that was the first the other week, actually.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: I got inside a cot because a cot wouldn't make it outside the door, so I had to get inside the cot and shoot from in the cot.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: But with 12 mil, you get you get away with it.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_02: What 12 mil?
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, speaking of uh 12 mil and and obviously going down the gear route, what are you using these days?
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: So I've been exclusively using Fujifilm for probably the last year now.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I was I we I started with Canon, then I went to Nikon for a bit there.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: And Nikon was morally my work camera for a while.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: Then I had um the the Fuji GFX system um in 2018.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: But now um I've just all Fujifilm.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I've got Fujifilm GFX, which I use for more of the high-end stuff.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um and the hundreds?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the GFX 100S.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um I use that for sunrise, sunset, um real estate photography and also the high-end sort of architectures type stuff uh when they need, you know, bigger files.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um otherwise I'm using uh the XH2.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Now, when I first moved to that from the D810 Nikon, I was a bit skeptical because um it's you know crop sensor.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: But so I did some big research and I did some uh testing and I found it pretty much identical to the D810 of quality.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: So that's pretty good.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: So now you pride themselves on the on those sensors um being like a crop sensor, but being as good quality as what a full frame can.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's not as much of a crop as it would be like an APSC, is it?
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: No, it is 1.5.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's 1.5.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um I read the wrong thing the other day.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: I thought it was 1.29, but it's actually not.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what the hell I was looking at.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, no, I'm using um the Fujifilm XH2 for a lot of the real estate stuff, um, with the 8 to 16, which is 12 to 24, which is perfect for your your bathrooms, the 12 mil.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's a nice looking lens, too.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: It is, it is.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's expensive lens for APSC.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh about that 27, 2700.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: But with Fuji with Fuji's um glass, it's well worth it.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean I I'm using what I'm using, but that glass comes pretty damn close, or if not, it is better.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it does an amazing job, that lens.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um must help those small bathrooms where you probably don't have to stand on top of the toilet as much.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: That or when you've got like um, for instance, the door, sometimes the doors in the bathrooms they they go into the shower screen, so you can actually close the door and get back up against the door and still be able to get uh reasonable angle in there.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's nice.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's nice.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: But the GFX gear is incredible.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's what's made me love, what's what made me get back into landscape photography because there was a period there uh from 2010 to 2017, I wasn't really um as passionate about it.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: But then I started traveling more, so I was like, I'm gonna get myself uh a nicer camera for that.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: And the GFX 50R was, you know, at a reasonable price.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I I got that camera and yeah, headed down to Tasmania for about four weeks or three with three four weeks actually it was, and just traveled around with it.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: And funnily enough, I actually met Carl in the middle of the uh I remember that pool basesta.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: In the middle of the walls of Jerusalem National Park.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, it was like just after sunset.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_03: I think I was cooking dinner, and then Adam just strolls into our stroll or was he running?
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: Because well, if for me it would be a run, but for Adam it's like a slow walk.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's a slow pace.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: Anyone doesn't know Adam's a gazelle and he he hops up mountains without even sweating.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: What was the reason from my falling out of love with landscape?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then when you bought that Fuji, what was the defining factor that made you fall back in love?
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: I started traveling a bit more.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um I travelled to Tasmania, I did a bit of traveling to other parts of Australia, uh, and I just loved that it had those colour profiles from Velvia and Fuji, from Velvia and um Probia, um, which I learnt on at the beginning.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it kind of brought back the those feelings of when I first started.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: And and looking at slide film uh in the transparencies of 35 mil.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_03: And how does that how does that contrast now to your real estate work?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: Does it give is it more like it gives you a break?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: Or is it like you like nature and you have to be it gives me, yeah, it gives me a break.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I try to go away a couple or maybe two to three times at least a year to to just solely focus on the nature stuff.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: And a few few places have called to me over the last couple of years, and one being Cosly Oscar National Park and one being uh the Western Arthur's of Tasmania.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: And both of those I'm pretty passionate about.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um I with with the Cosby Oscar National Park, particularly around that Charlotte's in the main range, it brings back to memories because when I was a kid, um I pretty much learned to ski there.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um my granddad, he um helped build a a lodge in uh in Charlottes Pass and the lodge is called Spencer's Creek.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I learned to ski uh there from the age of three till 1920.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: We went there every year for one week with the family.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: The whole family went.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: So to go back uh and and photograph it uh after that many years of of not going back was uh looking on the mountain, saying, Yeah, thinking, well, that's where I beat my granddad down the mountain, that's where he beat me down the mountain.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: So it was pretty cool.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's got a good emotional time.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, especially around that um top of the the chairlift and all the the back of that area, because you can look out to the main range there.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's pretty special part of Australia.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I I love it.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's there's so many different uh seasons there you can get and so many different types of compositions.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh yeah, it's it's amazing.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: You have to take us through what you've been focusing on in that area.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: What have you been capturing out there?
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I over the last uh three or four years, I've probably been going back several trips, some years, but more trips than others, sometimes even with you, Carl.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: And going out to the main range is pretty special, I'd have to say.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: If you've got a good weather break, it's it's pretty amazing, particularly around that Carrathas uh and the Sentinel and and those spots.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's amazing views.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: You could be somewhere in Europe looking out um over that that part of the range.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: So they are uh in 2020, I pretty much did one trip there on my own for a couple of nights.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: That was pretty special.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I I I was in awe of it.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: I got the most amazing sunset light, that golden ridge light.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I just wanted to keep coming back, keep coming back there.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: I I just loved it.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and other parts of the range, um I've pretty much like the whole loop of the main range.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I've done uh uh several spots and each spot has its own unique sort of view of the range.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: I've noticed that coming through and like it's not just the large vistas, right?
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_03: I know you you love your intimate photos out there.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: So in 2020 um I got my first macro lens um and that that's what made me get into sort of the like the closer um detail type shots yeah um out in the main range particularly well there's there's about 212 uh plant species in the park so yeah there's quite a few plant species to photograph and they all look different at different seasons and I like them when they're in the ice that's my favorite that is an awesome shot you do have I think you yeah these are you probably I think some of your most successful photos of your like recent collections too I think yeah the hibernation image that made the Ansang um shortlist for botanical um a couple of years ago so that was uh pretty special image I actually printed that 50 inch uh recently and the detail uh was uh I was blown away I was like this is this is amazing it was a 32 shot uh image focus stack yeah uh that's not enough no it's not enough it's not enough that was pretty much flat that that was flat so it was just the the the plant was kind of just coming out of the snow a little bit but I wanted to just just focus stack that max that's a GFX problem everybody and medium format you you've got to stack a bit you've particularly on those um really close intimate shots you're gonna have to stack but the the result was well worth it though oh definitely definitely um yeah I that's that's a big passion I've got to get back out and do more of those type shots particularly around the Alpine lakes um you'll find a lot more of the sort of the plants sort of in the ice I'd say when that hibernation shot was taken that was just before winter so that was the end of May so when you're getting that when it's just starting to freeze is is a really good time to get those type shots.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen you there Adam be down a creek just bent over like looking at me like for like two hours in within a 10 meter radius photographing for all these mad intimate shots this is why his back's gone my back's gone from from that's funny enough why I changed actually the XH2 as well because of the flip out screen.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm now looking more through the actual LCD screen rather than jarring my neck up um in the corner of a room.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: So I do remember when when they started putting those flip screens on cameras I'm like I will never buy a camera that has that on there it's like just get down behind the thing.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: But now that I've got one and I've started using it more that's the best thing ever.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's gotta it's improved your ergonomics especially for what you said.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_03: I think you Adam mentioned to me once um you know you used to have to see a chiropractor all the time from working and then yeah has that has that now alleviated that issue?
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't see a chiropractor as much but I still go yeah just to keep the health intact so Cairo physio and then every few months of massage just to keep the body in line.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_03: Just general health just general now it's good to hear that maybe it's like helped you out though having a flip out screen has improved your work work lifestyle.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah definitely definitely um and try not to when I'm lifting furniture on the the real estate shoots try try and be very mindful of the back yeah when I first started I'll just lift it like I can lift this tail my own now actually you know agent come over here and help me.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah yeah don't bust your back what sort of training are you doing for your hikes and your mountain um sessions like what to to get yourself prepared for those if any well leading up to a lot of my expeditions I have done no training I've been lucky enough just to be yeah as you can say naturally fit um I'm always on the go with work so I'm always naturally out fit but coming up to this hike that um myself uh Jordan Wheatley and uh Kay Burgess are about to do um in the Western Arthurs I'm gonna do some training yeah because I know how brutal it is and I've it's three years since I've done it and I know my I'm getting older so I know I have to do some training and I know the other boys they've been doing training so I've I've gonna keep up with them because I'm now the old dog of the group.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of Jordan Wheatley there's a rumor going around that on these trips you like a good cuddle well you like a good I did listen to Jordan's um Jordan's podcast you guys and um the only reason he likes a big cuddle is because he brings a big big air mattress that takes up pretty much three quarters of the tent so he's asking for a cuddle.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: He is a big teddy bear too he is a big teddy bear and then if you're gonna if you're gonna bring in like a air match map that's three quarters of the tent of course I'm gonna slobber over it again Jordan was holding the tea towels so I just had to throw that in now it's too good to learn.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: I think that did open his open his his passion for that area and he's he's pretty pumped to go back with us um in about five weeks time so yeah he was uh he was very unready last time but I just uh motivated motivated uh him quite some to get up particularly that Moraine A which is is a killer he has been training hard and I've known him for a a little bit now through work and and you know I've never seen him this determined um with training and and his love from four sorry um the mountains has just grown exponentially since he's done that trip with you.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah he's told me he's lost about seven eight kilos he's doing well man that's a lot of weight yeah yeah that's a lot of weight and he's and he's a tall fella too so that's quite that's quite a a feat so if you've um so he's gonna be well ready and then you've got Kate Burgess who's done ever a space camp so I think he's he's he's well equipped.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: He's another mountain I don't think he even has to try.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_02: Or the gazelle and he's the mountain goat yeah yeah I think I'll be I'll be I might be the slowest this time.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: They got they got youth on their side though they haven't cracked 30 yet what what's in your pack when you're going on a trip like that uh so this trip I've um denarred so much because over the last course of the last couple of years I've acquired a bit more gear and a bit more thinking with different focal lengths.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I actually really think now what I need in my pack when I'm going out to these areas and what I really want to focus on.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: And because I've been to the Western Arthur's three times now I've done it I've done the whole whole um whole traverse once and then up to Oberon um twice and back I can sort of visualize now what I actually need more in my pack.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: So this time round I will take the GFX 100S I'll take the 20 to 35 which is good for that um wider angle stuff and I will take the 100 to 200 and the 250 uh and 1.4 times because we've camped me and Jordan have camped up the top of uh Mount Sirios which is one of the high peaks above Oberon and there is ridge lines for days up there and I've had 120 mil there and it wasn't enough.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: So the 250 with the 1.4 times which is 350 in MF which is about 277 35 mil format was going to get in on those ridge lines probably get several shots out there like we're just changing from the one spot the ankle that's the bonus of telephone eh and then I'm not done then yet I'm really gonna hurt my back on this trip.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder your training so macro I actually changed my kit I obviously got the XH2 for work but then I was like XH2 um is crop sensor so more depth of field perfect for macro so I've grown uh grabbed the uh 80 mil yeah uh which is a one-to-one macro uh which is 120 mil in 35 mil format uh which I'll take as well if I can fit it all my pack.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: Take second bag how many how many days are you doing?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: We're going for 10 days this time so this is this is massive so you've really got to really think about your pack's weight and I've been thinking about it a lot more this time round more than ever more than any other trip um thinking about what I'm putting in this pack and I've changed my sleeping bag I've changed my mat sleeping mat um and I'm gonna go into lighter tent.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah um and then even the food situation I'm this time round going even lighter again so I hope they don't go hungry.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah I think that's the hardest thing right if you go for that many days trying to fit enough food and make sure you calculate it right is the hardest part.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I've got a full full list of what I need.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: We need like 19 19 meals on this trip.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah so we need nine nine breakfasts.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's nearly enough to fill your bag up just anyone who doesn't know that's that's enough to fill pretty much most of your bag up anyway with your sleeping gear and everything Yeah it's a lot.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah the nine breakfasts the nine lunches and the nine dinners um but the campus pantry do an expedition um which is only a hundred hundred um hundred grams now so that and it's very compressed and condensed so you can actually fit a lot more in your pack I think now because all the other um dehydrated meals they have a lot more they have air space within their packets where the this is really condensed down vacuum sealed.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: So that that equates for more room in your bag.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_03: Those campus pantries are actually pretty damn good too like they actually taste like real real food eh?
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah they're actually they're they're they're very good.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like we've tried well Carl has tried several as well over the years and you sort of figure out what's good and what's not good.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's the freeze dried ones is the way to go now instead of these ones that are the um full dehydrated hey because like I think when we went away last time we had the the freeze dried and had chunks of meat in them as opposed to just having like this sort of like liquid you know what I mean?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: The canvas pantry is good I really like those the Raddox uh plant paste they're okay um uh and then you've got the uh outdoor food company I don't mind as well that's the beef strong off one you get right the beef burgundy or something beef burgundy yeah that that's a good one that's a good one um so they're really good they they're two serves I've um yeah they're they're my favorite yeah yeah how much do you have any extras like that you take in your pack that's like a treat for you while you're out on the trip yeah so I take I've been taking uh the protein energy bars the cliff bars in the last couple trips um but I might mix it up this time round I've got another brand I've I can't remember the brand but I'd taken on another trip with Carl when we went to Kosiosco recently and they were quite quite tasty and yeah I might mix it up with those the cliff bars this time round um and also campus pantry have brought out a couple desserts so have they now yeah so they've got actually a whiskey ice cream which is pretty pretty yum have you tried it have you I haven't tried about it sounds yum but Jordan Jordan's um he he he he's he he's got that for dessert every day for like eating today Jordan's taking beer up there let's face it yeah he wants to uh he wants to take a few beers for the end of the trip he's he's trying to figure out how the logistics behind it leave them in the car mate no we're getting dropped off so we're gonna have to hide them somewhere yeah you'll have to do some kind of nice eco hiding and then pick it up later.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah yeah speaking of eco what sort of um conservation sort of um approach do you take for these trips because it's quite a fragile um yeah it's quite um quite fragile environments particularly around Obron is a lot of pandini and you can get very you can get a lot more compositions if you really wanted to but you'd be wrecking the environment so that's where you gotta really fit say no I'm not gonna do that.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna take it from areas where it's not gonna affect the the cushion plants and the pandini and all the other small little plants that are out there that if they get trodden on they're gonna die.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm very much for um leave no trace as well.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: So with um yeah so with the the litter and everything too it really bugs me um when I see the platforms of all the litter and just stuff chucked underneath like that.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh really?
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah over on Oberon there's a couple of um really nice um platforms they've got hidden away from the lake and um yeah every time I've been there there's this there's rubbish underneath and I just I'm just like why why why not just not not just take that with you back.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I don't get that eh that's the problem with them um doing something nice and building a platform for people and then then people just decide to to ruin that opportunity to have something there for them and then they just decide let's just trash it.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well it's kind of like not an accessible area for most people either like the only people that are going there are proper abled people.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_03: There's no there's not really a clean up that runs through there.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't get it because people that are going out in these areas are full passionate about the nature and being out outdoors so why why wreck it?
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_03: Like why just take it home I agree yeah well they'll just they'll end up turning Oberon into like what um Everest base camp looks like you know where it's just torn tents and leftover shit everywhere you know I hope not.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: They've actually got a booking system now so they're limiting only six people a day to get onto the track.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: So um which makes it hard when because it's the southwest is known for you know ferocious weather and a lot of people like to sort of time it with you know good weather but then again you know you've got to you've got to cut it back to is there any such thing as good weather you know it's hard to plan the southwest Tasmania good weather isn't it it is it is hard to plan it makes up its own weather system.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: So luckily me and Jordan last year we actually had a a good weather run.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: Not last year sorry it feels like last year 2020 geez actually a while ago yeah so it's been like a few years now like I went for a period there I went 2018 2019 2020 I was like I'm gonna go here every year and then COVID came that sort of uh sort of was gonna delay in 2020 but then we got access out there just in time and then 2021 I had birth my first child so I didn't think it was a good idea to go.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah no yeah yeah we had you had other duties go again you had other duties yeah you're never gonna leave passing and then fail then yeah in 2022 I decided to do a couple other trips instead so it's we could get back um with different vision I think I've got a different vision now of what I want to capture um with the wide stuff the telly stuff and the macro stuff.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: What is your approach to your photography your landscape photography?
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well with my um work stuff it's you could say it's heavily retouched so like as I'm taking multiple frames it's all getting blended in Photoshop.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's the nature of that beast.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah it is the nature of that beast um whereas my stuff I like to sort of simplify it and just try to get in the one shot that's my my because yeah every day I'm taking multiple exposures from my work stuff.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to like simplify uh everything when I'm out in the field with the nature stuff.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah no so it's real real natural so it's yeah it's pretty natural.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't say I edit heavily I try and keep it to how the landscape is when I'm there like how how I see it.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I wouldn't I don't go heavily overboard with the colours and whatnot.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: What would you say your um your next big trip would be the one have you got like a wish list or a like a dream?
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: There's always a wish list.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Now that my daughter's getting a bit older I'll be able to obviously hopefully take her on some of these trips.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah because I feel like she's gonna be an adventure girl.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: So um there is trips like the Western Arthur is the end of this year and then next year I want to get up do some more aerial photography because that's another sort of passion that's come in the last couple of years as well.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_01: I've been lucky enough to get up with a couple of mates um in certain areas of Australia like Carl we went to um Lake Air at the end of 2020 that was that was quite successful that was a big trip from the that was a big trip that's when we sort of learnt everything the do's and don'ts of aerial photography you could say and then I've done a few other trips like to Ninkaloo Reef.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: I did a big trip with uh Tim Rate um up to the Kimberleys last year and that's probably my most successful portfolio I reckon so far from uh the Kimberley uh but I want to get up to uh I want to get up to North Territory that's definitely um a spot definitely that all those areas up there the shops I've seen up there up there are are pretty pretty spectacular yeah and the Gulf of Carpenteria is another one um next level up there doesn't it I want to go up there the the photographs work I've seen up there is is incredible with the landscape how it changes from seasons the tides it's yeah it's it's amazing.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: All aerial up there or would you do um land-based as well?
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: It was a golf carpenter I think it's very flat so I think that's more an an aerial type um type aerial full of crocs everywhere yeah I don't want to be I don't want to be I'm not yeah I'm not Steve Irwin all right crikey we can say we can say crikey from the air yeah no but um yeah no I've been I've been in some areas where the the the croc signs have come up yeah um because in 2010 I went on a a road trip this is before I was fully into landscape photography I was into it a little bit but not yeah as much as I am now and yeah we did camp up in the Kimberleys and I did see the signs um we were gonna camp but we stayed in the car that night.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah because the crocs come out and get yeah they're they're the most scariest animal I reckon like you can create whites and like the sharks yeah they're fine because they're in the water but those things go on land too man I'm scared of those buddy things.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_03: And anything anything that'll watch your behavior and if you go the same way twice it'll remain that's a no no but yeah yeah I'd like to get more variety around Australia as well.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: So um yeah that's that's on the forecast too just to to broaden the the portfolio.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: Are you going to stick to Australia or have you got anything you want to do overseas or you uh I've got a couple of areas I'd love to go to I think everyone in Australia who's a landscape photographer wants to travel overseas at some point.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to go to Antarctica that would be a big one and Greenland.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: Or Greenland they're the two big ones um Greenland uh just to see the icebergs like in the water floating around same with Antarctica I think that would be pretty pretty amazing just to see these like building sized icebergs floating around with one sail ship right in the middle of the archway one red sail ship yeah I wonder if it's just glued there so yeah those those two areas would be amazing um there's multiple other areas like yeah like yeah Alaska's good too mountains uh Patagonia yeah yes there's no like it's been done a lot already so that's I wouldn't say no to a trip there definitely not yeah um more of Tasmania for sure um and more aerial photography yeah I wouldn't know where to go overseas with the aerial photography but um yeah there's people like Iceland area I've seen some uh awesome stuff from oh yeah Iceland Iceland coming for aerials Iceland yeah is you can't miss you know Iceland I don't think you just have to hold your button down and travel around the whole country I'd still buddy miss it I reckon oh Iceland Iceland yeah I've seen you've seen some amazing shots from there was a braided rif braided rivers or whatever yeah yeah that looks unreal yeah yeah and the stuff that you see coming out of there is unreal I don't know if suit my style but maybe one day you gotta give it a shot I reckon Iceland would probably suit your style more than any other country.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: Nah England it's like the most muted country there is nothing England England and like Scotland are those for for my sort of stuff is it's just suits it do a T because you've got that old sandstone look of buildings with water.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_02: Can't build it.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: You like a bit of architecture in your shots?
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: I do, yeah.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's um it started with jetties and it's then huts and then now it's gotten into more the architecture stuff.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: But but we're not here about that.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh what what's next for you?
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like um apart from your Arthur's trip, have you got anything that you want to let loose?
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what is next?
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: So Arthur's trip is going to be huge.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: That'll be huge.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's gonna be amazing.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so looking forward to that.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what is next?
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I've recently been doing a lot more marketing so marketing course.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: So that's you need to be good at marketing to get ahead of this game.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: So is that in both landscape and real estate?
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah it's for both um so every every month I do a um I do a a zoom with um a marketing um team and they with other business owners as well and we go through certain um strategies and whatnot.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: So that's helped I've got my Google rating up to number one for my real estate stuff around Sydney so um so that's that's been amazing.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: What what else is next?
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh trip wise yeah I'd love to do the golf cafeteria next year.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_01: So definitely that's on the forecast.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: What season is that the best season is that wet season probably May or May or June.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah okay and then just really um doing more of Cosyosco stuff as well because it's an area that's only five hours away my parents live in ginderbine now which is very handy.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic so I can go down there anytime they're happy to see me so they've got an amazing home away from home.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: They've got an amazing property overlooking overlooking the lakes every time I go there I'm like maybe I should move here but then again I've got my my my work stuff in Sydney but maybe one day maybe one day I'll move down there.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: Real estate if your wife is listening you have to do lots of real estate at Jindy oh there there is but um with the Sydney you you've got the um the high end uh more high end sort of stuff which is um you can make obviously more money on yeah and it's uh generally nicer to shoot too yeah yeah 100% yeah all right well on that note man uh thanks for coming in and drop making the drive down from uh from Manley it's been a pleasure having you here it's been yeah Ben sorry to interrupt it's been pleasure to have you have me here it's coming out um it's good also good to hear um a different side because you know we're all landscape photographers or we're you know we're all doing outside stuff so it's always good to hear other aspects of photography and avenues that people can go down um to make money if they want to do this as a um as a business and a uh profession but uh but yeah so it's been good having you here and um thanks again and it's been it's been great.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_03: Check out Adam's work it's it's epic.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_03: If you haven't if you've looked at Domain magazine before you've probably seen it so on the cover.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah or real estate com and all those so no doubt everyone's probably looked at his photos at one time or another.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: And not known it because you don't get credits for it.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah yeah yeah so check that out and check out his natural nature on his website and yeah buy some of his work there's they're all awesome and if you need a house if you need your house photographed call in yeah the website is um www.adamresh dot com dot au and I've got two Instagrams um one for property so that's Adam Resch Property Photos and Adamresh nature.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_01: And your fo your real estate photography shows up on the actual domain on your website uh yeah so I've got it uh set as um there's a icon for that area so it's property it's called and then the nature is a different section so they're both at the top so it's pretty easy to navigate.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sure everyone will be able to find that with us as soon as we jump off this show.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_02: But on that note thanks everybody thanks again Adam and we'll catch you all on our next episode