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Grief, Purpose, and the Healing That Followed · Breathe Different: The Brown's Gas Revolution

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Speaker 1: So what if the most painful chapter of your life
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Speaker 1: became the reason you discovered your life's purposed. Today's guest
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Speaker 1: didn't set out to change the world. He was simply
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Speaker 1: trying to save the woman he loved. What happened after
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Speaker 1: her passing sent him on a journey that has lasted decades,
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Speaker 1: and it all started with one decision to keep searching
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Speaker 1: for answers. Welcome back to the show. You know, every
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Speaker 1: once in a while, we have a guest whose story
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Speaker 1: reminds us that some of life's greatest missions are born
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Speaker 1: from our greatest heartbreaks. Today's guest is a very special guest.
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Speaker 1: His name is George Wiseman, and he is the founder
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Speaker 1: of Egle Research. He's an inventor, or researcher, and someone
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Speaker 1: spent nearly four decades asking questions that most people never
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Speaker 1: think to ask. But before any of that, George was
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Speaker 1: a husband, a caregiver, and a man who's spent years
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Speaker 1: trying to save the woman he loved from Lucas. Her
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Speaker 1: passing changed everything. George, first of all, thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for being here. I know this isn't always an
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Speaker 1: easy story to tell, but I really appreciate your willingness
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Speaker 1: to share it because I feel like it's going to
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Speaker 1: resonate with a lot of people, and you're going to
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Speaker 1: inspire everyone listening today. So thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: being here.
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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to be here and an honor as well.
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Speaker 2: I'm really impressed with Stacy's work, and it's good to
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Speaker 2: meet you.
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Speaker 1: I would love the audience to get to know you,
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Speaker 1: the man behind all of this and the mission. So
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Speaker 1: before we talk about your work, who is George Wiseman?
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Speaker 1: Who was George Wiseman before Eagle Research and the inventions
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Speaker 1: and the brown gas? What was life like growing up?
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Speaker 2: Okay? I was born in Montana, and my father always
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Speaker 2: wanted to be a cowboy, so he bought a ranch,
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Speaker 2: actually five ranches in British Columbia while I was quite
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Speaker 2: young in early grade school, and we spent the summers
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Speaker 2: up on these ranches. He put together to make one
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Speaker 2: big ranch. At the time you could buy a quarter section,
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Speaker 2: which is one hundred and six acres for only about
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Speaker 2: two thousand dollars in the Middle British Galubic. So he
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Speaker 2: achieved his great dream. He ended up being a cowboy
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Speaker 2: and he raised us as kids who were nine of
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Speaker 2: us living in a little trappers cabin, a twenty five
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Speaker 2: foot square and there was no electricity, no running water.
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Speaker 2: We lived like it was in the eighteen hundreds. In fact,
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Speaker 2: the trappers cabin was built in the eighteen hundreds and
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Speaker 2: that became the main ranch house. So I'd get up
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Speaker 2: at four thirty in the morning saddle a horse, and
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Speaker 2: that was pretty much how I was growing up. The
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Speaker 2: important part for here, though, is that I considered myself
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Speaker 2: to be a lazy person when I was growing up
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Speaker 2: because I didn't like to fix anything more than once.
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Speaker 2: And it turns out that I have a very high
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Speaker 2: mechanical IQ, so being an inventor was an obvious thing.
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Speaker 2: Later in my life I realized, but I'd figure out
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Speaker 2: why something broke and then fix it again in such
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Speaker 2: a way that it wouldn't break again. So that's what
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Speaker 2: I considered that to be laziness, because I didn't like
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Speaker 2: to fix anything more than once. And as I proceeded
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Speaker 2: with my life, I brought that philosophy with me. First
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Speaker 2: of all, I had the ability to fix things, to
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Speaker 2: see things that were obvious to me but not so
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Speaker 2: obvious to others, Like when I went to school, for
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Speaker 2: mechanic technician, they have to test your mechanical IQ, and
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Speaker 2: I was off the scale and they couldn't even measure
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Speaker 2: my mechanical IQ. And I was actually able to during
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Speaker 2: the course of my work for my schooling in that
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Speaker 2: particular course, I was able to convince the teacher that
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Speaker 2: six of my answers were more correct than the curriculum.
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Speaker 2: So how many students can say that they actually changed
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Speaker 2: the course that they were taking at the time. I
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Speaker 2: just spoke with that instructor a month or so ago.
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Speaker 2: He's still alive and it was a nice conversation. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: back to the point, I grew up on this cattle ranch.
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Speaker 2: It gave me the basis of my whole life. And
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Speaker 2: when I got off the ranch and got into by
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Speaker 2: the way, we didn't even have radio on the ranch.
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Speaker 2: We were so far out in the boonies that we
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Speaker 2: didn't even get radio reception. There was no any anything
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Speaker 2: like that. What I got out in the real world
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Speaker 2: where everybody else lives these days. And I've had hot
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Speaker 2: and cold, running water and electricity and all of those things.
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Speaker 2: I score never to be without it again. And so
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Speaker 2: I was a basis of my becoming an alternative energy researcher.
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Speaker 2: And note that when I got off the ranch, my
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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six forward pickup truck, which a half done
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Speaker 2: pickup truck, was getting thirty six miles to the gallon,
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Speaker 2: and I didn't know that pickup trucks weren't supposed to
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Speaker 2: get thirty six miles to the gallon. So when I
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Speaker 2: started my inventing business, the first thing I was doing
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Speaker 2: was fuel savers because I knew how to increase the
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Speaker 2: vehicle fuel mileage significantly, and I helped hundreds of thousands
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Speaker 2: of people do that. Over the years. I've written twenty
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Speaker 2: four books which are available on my website that people
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Speaker 2: can see my various projects and come up to date
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Speaker 2: on this thinking that the average person just doesn't even know.
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Speaker 2: When I went to Mechanics College for automotive technician, there
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Speaker 2: were a lot of things that weren't taught in the
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Speaker 2: college that I was able to help the other students
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Speaker 2: learn and understand, like the fourteen point seven to one
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Speaker 2: air fuel ratio isn't actually true, yet everybody is taught it.
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Speaker 2: So that's one reason why you can get a lot
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Speaker 2: higher fuel mileage because there's ways to make the fuel
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Speaker 2: more efficient In any case, it came to where I
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Speaker 2: was learning how to get fuel mileage, better fuel mileage
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Speaker 2: for fuel injected vehicles because in the eighties they were
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Speaker 2: switching from carburetors to fuel injected so my carburetor knowledge
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Speaker 2: was becoming obsolete, and Brown's gas happened to be one
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Speaker 2: of those things that could increase the efficiency of fuel
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Speaker 2: injected vehicles. So I started experimenting with Browns gas in
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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, and that led me into experimenting with
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Speaker 2: the gas as for a lot of different things, as
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Speaker 2: well as making large electoralizers that could replace the fuel
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Speaker 2: in a settling torches, so anyone who was cutting steel
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Speaker 2: or anything like that could replace it with Brown's gas
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Speaker 2: at two percent to the cost of using a settling.
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Speaker 2: And there's lots of story behind that, but the point
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Speaker 2: is then people started experimenting unbeknoast to me, and I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't even have thought of it, but they started bubbling
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Speaker 2: the Browns gas in water and feeding it to plants,
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Speaker 2: and plants started growing like three to ten times faster,
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Speaker 2: Like if you had plants in soil it would be
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Speaker 2: about three times faster, and in hydroponics it was growing
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Speaker 2: about ten times faster. So this Browns gas had a
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Speaker 2: health application that was absolutely unknown to me, even though
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Speaker 2: I was an expert in making the world's most efficient
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Speaker 2: Browns gas electrillizers again my alternative energy research. I put
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Speaker 2: it into making a new design of Browns gas electrilizer
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Speaker 2: that ended up being half the weight, half the size,
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Speaker 2: and produced the same quantity of Browns gas.
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Speaker 1: I love this. I want to go back to what
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Speaker 1: you said about I want everyone to know everything about
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Speaker 1: this because it's phenomenal. But I'm really curious to know
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Speaker 1: about your mind because we've had so many different successful
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Speaker 1: people on the show over the years, and one thing
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Speaker 1: that every single one of them have had in common
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Speaker 1: is that deep curiosity. You know, the ability to challenge people,
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Speaker 1: the confidence to say, you know what, I think there
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Speaker 1: might be a better way. Is that something that you
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Speaker 1: grew up with? Because I read that the part about
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Speaker 1: growing up in British Columbia and describing yourself as the cowboy.
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Speaker 1: What is being a cowboy mean to you? And what's
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Speaker 1: this always ingrained in you?
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Speaker 2: Well? Being a cowboy? If people have watched a Yellowstone
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Speaker 2: like the movie series there with.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally, I think everybody has that.
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Speaker 2: Gives you a pretty good idea of what it means
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Speaker 2: to be a cowboy, and a cowboy pretty much has
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Speaker 2: to be a jack of all trades. Because we lived
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Speaker 2: so far out in the woods with the ranch, there
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Speaker 2: were no veterinarians, there were no doctors, there were no
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Speaker 2: automotive mechanics, there were no anything. So if you didn't
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Speaker 2: do it yourself, it pretty much didn't get done. And
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Speaker 2: cowboys help each other, like the neighbors help neighbors. If
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Speaker 2: there's something that needs done that requires more hands, we
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Speaker 2: ride over and ask for help and organize things in
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Speaker 2: certain things, like everybody would buy a big flock of chickens,
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Speaker 2: for example, like a hundred chickens, and then there would
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Speaker 2: be the day that you would a bunch of people
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Speaker 2: would get together with the machines that would chop the
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Speaker 2: heads off and defeather them and all that kind of stuff,
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Speaker 2: and just move this apparatus around from ranch to ranch
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Speaker 2: so that everybody's chickens would get taken care of. And
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Speaker 2: so these are the kind of things that happened. I earned.
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Speaker 2: I learned honor, I learned integrity, I learned how to
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Speaker 2: help your neighbor. And it's how to care for all
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Speaker 2: living things that were under our care, all the animals
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Speaker 2: and stuff. Interesting thing, we didn't eat beef because you
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Speaker 2: could sell beef. That was our cash crop, if you
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Speaker 2: will in the end. So I grew up on wild meat.
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Speaker 2: So and we had we had guns in the in
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Speaker 2: the vehicle. There's lots of people don't like guns anymore,
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Speaker 2: but back then it was a tool that was necessary.
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Speaker 2: There were bears and cougars and wolves and coyotes and
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Speaker 2: various survival of ourselves, but also survival of our animals,
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Speaker 2: like to keep the calves from getting eaten by a wolf,
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Speaker 2: for example, you'd need to be able to protect them.
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Speaker 2: But then for food, we literally had we shot deer
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Speaker 2: and grouse and elk and various things for food. It
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Speaker 2: wasn't for trophies or anything. That's how I grew up.
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Speaker 2: I grew up that it was very down to earth
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Speaker 2: the existence. But you learn you have to trust your neighbors,
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Speaker 2: and your neighbors have to be able to trust you.
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Speaker 2: So making deals on a handshake, for example, that was
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Speaker 2: you didn't break that kind of a deal, even if
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Speaker 2: you suffered for it. You kept your word. And so
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Speaker 2: it was important. And that's the kind of integrity that
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Speaker 2: I've brought forward as well. When I say I'll do something,
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Speaker 2: I will do it. If I'm going to be someplace,
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Speaker 2: I will be there.
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Speaker 1: It just is what stands apart. That's what leaders like.
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Speaker 1: Good leaders. That sets good leaders apart from the ones
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Speaker 1: that you know don't say what they do and do
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Speaker 1: what they say. Such an important quality to have, for sure.
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Speaker 1: I love that story and I'm picturing it. It sounds like
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Speaker 1: a movie and I'm picturing Yellowstone right now and building
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Speaker 1: that community. It makes it makes it the story more
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Speaker 1: meaningful as well. And I would love for you to
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Speaker 1: tell us about your wife. Who was she, where did
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Speaker 1: you meet her, and what made you fall in love
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Speaker 1: with her?
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Speaker 2: Well, I originally was married to a woman in When
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Speaker 2: I went to agriculture college, I met this woman who
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Speaker 2: we resonated with very much, and eventually, thirteen years later,
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Speaker 2: we did get divorced because I wasn't meeting her emotional needs.
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize at the time. It's happened decades since that.
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Speaker 2: I have Asperger syndrome, a high level autism, so relationships
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Speaker 2: are very difficult for me and I learned a lot
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Speaker 2: during that first relationship, which I qualified me for my
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Speaker 2: second one. And then after I was divorced, I started
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Speaker 2: dating again and I met this woman online. This woman
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Speaker 2: her name was Tanage, and she was in Ontario, where
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Speaker 2: I happened to be living now. And we got along
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Speaker 2: really well because with my kind of autism, I could
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Speaker 2: communicate very well remotely, like with emails and such. And
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Speaker 2: we met on match dot com back when it was
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Speaker 2: just getting started in the late nineties. Yes, and by
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Speaker 2: that time I already had my business set up, so
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Speaker 2: she decided she would leave her business, and she was
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Speaker 2: the director of a Montessori school. This is important because
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Speaker 2: she understood how to manage with children and sech and
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Speaker 2: in certain ways, my relationship skills were very childish, so
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Speaker 2: she was. And it wasn't until later that we realized
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Speaker 2: that I had Asperger's but she was able to give
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Speaker 2: me tools and modifications to make it better, the relationship better.
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Speaker 2: So anyway, we essentially fell in love on Match dot
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Speaker 2: com and interestingly enough, our love e meals crossed in
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Speaker 2: the mail. Okay, we sent it on the same day.
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Speaker 2: I said I love you, at the same day she
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Speaker 2: said I love you, and they actually crossed, so we
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Speaker 2: both said it first because we hadn't seen the other
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Speaker 2: person was It was quite the experience. And she was amazing.
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Speaker 2: She was a multimedia artist and would just look at
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Speaker 2: the world fresh and she did things and organize things
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Speaker 2: that I would never have done to have fun in
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Speaker 2: my life. I'm a workaholic. So when she made sure
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Speaker 2: we had fun doing various things. And then and we
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Speaker 2: got married just before the turn of the millennium in
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. And then she helped me with my business.
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Speaker 2: And by that time, in that time we were mostly
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Speaker 2: selling fuel savers and such. But this health aspect started
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Speaker 2: to pop up with the Browns gas and as I
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Speaker 2: was explaining before, back in nineteen ninety six, for example,
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Speaker 2: a fellow had put brownscasts bubbled water in a on
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Speaker 2: a cotton ball in a plastic cap and taped it
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Speaker 2: to a melanoma on ahead and in three weeks time
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Speaker 2: that melanoma was gone. But I didn't believe him, Okay,
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Speaker 2: And this is this is actually important because all this time,
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Speaker 2: as health people were showing me these things about plants
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Speaker 2: and various things that they were doing for health. They
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Speaker 2: it took until two thousand and five before they convinced
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Speaker 2: me to drink the Browns Gas bubbled water myself, and
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Speaker 2: since then I haven't been sick. I haven't been sick
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Speaker 2: since two thousand and five, so it by two thousand
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Speaker 2: and seven I endorsed the Browns Guess bubbled water for
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Speaker 2: health and sent that out to my various people. Now,
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Speaker 2: my late wife wouldn't drink the Browns Gas bubbled water
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Speaker 2: because her sister in law advised her not to drink
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Speaker 2: anything any water greater than a pH of eight. And
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Speaker 2: when they bubbled the Browns Gas in the water, it
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Speaker 2: does raise the pH slightly.
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Speaker 1: So so was that after because she was diagnosed with
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Speaker 1: lupus correct and she was she actually diagnosed.
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Speaker 2: I know the Browns Guess how the Browns Gas lupus
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Speaker 2: was much later in the story. I didn't know at
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Speaker 2: the time, and she didn't know at the time how
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Speaker 2: healthful the Browns Gas was. So in two thousand and
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Speaker 2: seven I advised the one hundred thousands of people out
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Speaker 2: there that were that had er fifty machines, which was
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Speaker 2: an early version of Brownscast machine that I was selling,
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Speaker 2: so they could have a tabletop version instead of spending
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Speaker 2: thousands of dollars on a water torch that was billing
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Speaker 2: at the time. Yeah, So so I sent out and
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Speaker 2: told people how they could bubble the water and drink it.
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Speaker 2: And then the testimonials started to come in and people
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Speaker 2: started asking could we inhale the gas? And as you see,
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Speaker 2: I am inhaling it now, but at the time, now
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Speaker 2: this is where the expert syndrome would come in, and
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Speaker 2: I had blinders on. I was used to Browns gas
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Speaker 2: being a combustible gas, and I knew how explosive this
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Speaker 2: gas was when I worked in the mines. I got
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Speaker 2: my blasting certifications, so I say, I literally blew apart
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Speaker 2: mountains for a living. Yet the loudest explosion that I
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Speaker 2: ever heard was in my own shop when I deliberately
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Speaker 2: set off a explosion, a seventy psi explosion in a
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Speaker 2: metal container, and people came running from blocks around to
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Speaker 2: see what the explosion was because the air pressure difference
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Speaker 2: had caused the garage doors to act like great big
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Speaker 2: speakers and it had just gone boom over the entire neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: So in any case, I didn't want people inhaling a
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Speaker 2: potentially explosive mixture. I thought that that would be a
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Speaker 2: bad thing in case it did explode.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, simply a liability Waiting's happened for sure.
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Speaker 2: So in December of twenty fifteen, because one of my
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Speaker 2: customers sent me a video of a Taiwanese hydrogen bar
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Speaker 2: where they were inhaling Brown's gas, just like I am
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Speaker 2: right now, and I realized how stupid I had been,
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Speaker 2: because I'm an internal and external combustion expert with explosives
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Speaker 2: and all of these kind of things, but I had
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Speaker 2: forgotten that if you have a hydrogen in air under
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Speaker 2: four point seven percent, hydrogen in air, it's non combustible.
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Speaker 2: It's under the lower combustibility limit, so it's perfectly safe
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Speaker 2: if you're inhaling a hydrogen mixture that's under four point
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Speaker 2: seven percent. So but at that point I was already
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Speaker 2: I had already been years where my late wife her
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Speaker 2: her organs were failing, and by that time I was
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Speaker 2: her twenty four to seven caretaker.
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Speaker 1: At you became her caregiver in amongst all of this,
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Speaker 1: and so I don't think people really understand what caregiving
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Speaker 1: looks like until they lived it. Tell us more about
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Speaker 1: those years.
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Speaker 2: So it was it was gradual, but there was a
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Speaker 2: time where it came where she couldn't get to the
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Speaker 2: toilet on her own, so I'd have to carry her
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Speaker 2: to the toilet, And eventually it got to where she
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Speaker 2: couldn't even roll over in bed without assistance, as her
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Speaker 2: organs were failing. And said she'd lost her eyesight, and
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Speaker 2: she had beautiful hair, and she'd lost a lot of
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Speaker 2: her hair. So bosop an eyesight was actually a blessing
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Speaker 2: in that she couldn't see how her hair was gone,
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Speaker 2: which she loved. She loved her hair so much, and
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Speaker 2: so I couldn't be away from her for more than
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Speaker 2: twenty minutes at a time. She never had to wear
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Speaker 2: a diaper. I was always able to be there when
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Speaker 2: she needed to go to the bathroom, and so I
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Speaker 2: did all the cooking, I did the cleaning, I did
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Speaker 2: the going to get the grocery shopping. But because of
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Speaker 2: this caretaking, I couldn't work. So there were years when
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Speaker 2: I couldn't work. I couldn't make money, and so we
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Speaker 2: ended up being about three hundred thousand dollars in debt
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Speaker 2: by the time that she died in March or twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 2: So it wasn't only the emotional and physical stress. There
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Speaker 2: was a financial stress as well when you're the caretaker,
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Speaker 2: and it isn't just the person who is sick that
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Speaker 2: is suffering, the caretaking team, whatever is around suffers as
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Speaker 2: well because it takes up more and more of their
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Speaker 2: attention and time and resources and such.
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Speaker 1: I imagine you feel exhausted and overwhelmed, and you know,
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Speaker 1: a touch fit helpless, right, And I mean, I'm curious
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Speaker 1: as to what kept driving you because you spent years
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Speaker 1: searching for answers and invested everything you had and just
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Speaker 1: said that, you know you were struggling financially as well.
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Speaker 1: If you look back at that now, what was driving you?
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Speaker 2: That's a that's a really good question. And I would
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Speaker 2: have to say my work ethic, I just I couldn't.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't not care for this woman. I loved her
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Speaker 2: and and and even one time she said, because she
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Speaker 2: loved me, she said, leave me, leave me, leave me
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Speaker 2: to die, because she could see how much I was suffering.
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Speaker 2: That's the kind of woman she was. She didn't want
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Speaker 2: to see the people around her suffering. And of course
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Speaker 2: I couldn't do that, and so I continued to do
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Speaker 2: things like modify the bed so she was sitting up
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Speaker 2: and could breathe easier, and and I couldn't sleep for
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Speaker 2: more than a few minutes at a time, like thirty
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Speaker 2: minutes or so, because I had to check on her
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Speaker 2: and make sure that she was okay. It it was
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Speaker 2: very difficult, but I'd say that my growing up on
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Speaker 2: the ranch, there were no coffee breaks, there were no
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Speaker 2: lunch breaks or anything like that. There was work to
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Speaker 2: be done, and you worked from sun up to can't
19:07
Speaker 2: see and you just did what needed to be done.
19:11
Speaker 2: And I've done that all my life, so it didn't
19:14
Speaker 2: feel like that much of a hardship. I was under stress,
19:17
Speaker 2: of course, but it was just what needed to be done.
19:19
Speaker 2: So I just did what needed to be done each day,
19:22
Speaker 2: each minute, each time. But there were things that I
19:24
Speaker 2: couldn't do, like work. And she was totally into natural health,
19:28
Speaker 2: so she thought hospitals were someplace you went to die,
19:32
Speaker 2: and so she did all the health ways that we
19:35
Speaker 2: could think of, and in all of this kind of thing,
19:38
Speaker 2: she wouldn't drink the browns gas water and I didn't
19:40
Speaker 2: know to inhale. So we spent thousands of dollars on
19:45
Speaker 2: various things and treatments and stuff for her, but nothing
19:50
Speaker 2: was working. So it turned out that in early March
19:52
Speaker 2: of twenty sixteen, she couldn't breathe anymore, and the ambulance
19:57
Speaker 2: came in and took her to the hospital because she
19:59
Speaker 2: couldn't cut her breath, she couldn't get her oxygen levels up,
20:02
Speaker 2: and they put her on oxygen and they did the
20:04
Speaker 2: diagnostic at that time, and that's when we discovered that
20:07
Speaker 2: she had loopis a very severe form of lupus, which
20:10
Speaker 2: is an autoimmune disease. So that's why her organs were failing.
20:13
Speaker 2: And even though we had essentially cured her diabetes, that
20:16
Speaker 2: she had a type two diabetes happened because her pancreas
20:19
Speaker 2: was failing. We actually changed her diet and stuff and
20:22
Speaker 2: got her blood sugar levels down without met foreman or
20:26
Speaker 2: insulin injections and things. So there were various things that
20:28
Speaker 2: we were doing, but everything just kept failing. In the end,
20:33
Speaker 2: it'd be one organ and then another one and then
20:35
Speaker 2: another one kind of thing. So in this case, it
20:37
Speaker 2: was her kidneys that were bad and it built up
20:40
Speaker 2: a lot of edema in her body, so she became
20:44
Speaker 2: very heavy and then couldn't breathe because of the water
20:47
Speaker 2: around her heart was preventing her heart from functioning very well.
20:50
Speaker 2: And that's essentially what she died of then, was the
20:54
Speaker 2: heart failure due to the edema from the nephrotic kidneys.
20:58
Speaker 2: So at that point when she died, I was I
21:02
Speaker 2: was devastated in a way that I had no idea
21:04
Speaker 2: it was possible to be. I came home from the
21:08
Speaker 2: hospital and it took me five tries to even get
21:10
Speaker 2: into the apartment we were living in. In the time,
21:12
Speaker 2: I would walk in the door and I would see
21:14
Speaker 2: her things, and I would it would just crushed me,
21:17
Speaker 2: and I'd have to turn around and go out and
21:19
Speaker 2: I'd walk for a few miles and then I'd come
21:21
Speaker 2: back and do it again. The thing was we had cats,
21:25
Speaker 2: We had five cats at the time, and the and
21:28
Speaker 2: they needed to be fed. So eventually I got into
21:30
Speaker 2: the apartment and I never slept in our marriage bed again.
21:33
Speaker 2: I just slept on the couch. And interesting story about
21:36
Speaker 2: the cats was the one cat. He was her favorite.
21:39
Speaker 2: His name was Talon, and she always told him when
21:42
Speaker 2: she left, I'll be back. And this time I came
21:45
Speaker 2: into the apartment and he came up to me and
21:48
Speaker 2: I said, Talent, she's not coming back. And he wailed.
21:52
Speaker 2: He just he just stumbled away wailing. It was it
21:57
Speaker 2: was crazy. But it's important to say that because later,
22:01
Speaker 2: when I was sitting on the couch just staring out
22:03
Speaker 2: into air because my life was gone. All my hopes
22:07
Speaker 2: and dreams and everything about living life joyfully was just gone,
22:12
Speaker 2: I didn't and I was grieving and I was just
22:15
Speaker 2: staring out into space. And suddenly all five cats came
22:20
Speaker 2: and huddled around me, close to me, and that was
22:23
Speaker 2: They had never done that before. They were always if
22:25
Speaker 2: one cat came, they would be they'd fight over who
22:28
Speaker 2: was going to sit in your lap or stuff like that.
22:30
Speaker 2: But all five of them, including talent, So I'm quite
22:34
Speaker 2: certain that my late wife came and spoke with them
22:37
Speaker 2: in the spirit and told them that I needed this help.
22:42
Speaker 2: So they did that. So within a couple of days,
22:46
Speaker 2: I look over my shoulder at this Browns gas machine
22:48
Speaker 2: that I was using to bubble water into bubble gas
22:51
Speaker 2: into water, and I thought, you know what. I remember
22:53
Speaker 2: this video, this Taiwanese video that was sent to me
22:56
Speaker 2: about inhalation, and at this point I didn't care if
22:59
Speaker 2: I lived or I wasn't suicidal. You have to understand
23:03
Speaker 2: there were times when my chest would hurt really badly
23:06
Speaker 2: and I'd realized I hadn't even taken a breath. My
23:09
Speaker 2: body was just shutting down from the grief, so I'd
23:12
Speaker 2: have to remember to breathe. And I looked at this
23:16
Speaker 2: machine and I thought, you know, I'm just going to
23:17
Speaker 2: set it up so that I can inhale safely, making
23:20
Speaker 2: sure that the hydrogen I'm inhaling is less than two
23:23
Speaker 2: percent of my inhaled breath and whatever happens. So I
23:27
Speaker 2: set up a video camera for when I first inhaled,
23:30
Speaker 2: and that video is still on my YouTube channel, and
23:32
Speaker 2: people can see what I looked like then and what
23:35
Speaker 2: I look like now. Okay, ten years later, I look
23:38
Speaker 2: like I did twenty years ago. So I'm younger looking
23:40
Speaker 2: now than I did even when I did the video
23:43
Speaker 2: ten years ago. So in any case, I wanted to
23:46
Speaker 2: As an inventor, I record things. So I wanted to
23:49
Speaker 2: record if something happened, people would know my stupidity. But
23:53
Speaker 2: it turned out to be one of the best things.
23:56
Speaker 1: The tragedy made me fearless. It's tripped away the part
24:02
Speaker 1: of you that was holding on to a blockage or
24:05
Speaker 1: a fear, and then after you know, you had the
24:09
Speaker 1: situation where the cats come in, and I feel like,
24:13
Speaker 1: if I may, it may have instilled some belief in
24:15
Speaker 1: you that you know, she's still here, I need to
24:17
Speaker 1: continue on, let's make this work, and that part of
24:21
Speaker 1: you kind of lit up again. It was like an
24:22
Speaker 1: old part of you left and then something new just
24:25
Speaker 1: came in and took over and said, we're doing this.
24:27
Speaker 1: No more fear. Is that what it felt like to you?
24:30
Speaker 2: Well, I certainly didn't have any more fear. I was
24:33
Speaker 2: because I didn't care about anything at the time. I
24:36
Speaker 2: didn't come back alive until later. And that's part of
24:39
Speaker 2: the story as well. So what happened also another time,
24:43
Speaker 2: just because we're talking about her spirit, I was trying
24:46
Speaker 2: on the on her computer because she paid all the
24:48
Speaker 2: bills on her computer, and so I was trying to
24:51
Speaker 2: use her computer to find the information I needed to
24:54
Speaker 2: pay the bills, and I was being very frustrated because
24:56
Speaker 2: I couldn't find it, and so I was I was
24:59
Speaker 2: too were streaming down my face as I was so
25:01
Speaker 2: frustrated at grieving in my and suddenly I wasn't even
25:06
Speaker 2: touching the keyboard at the time. I swear to God
25:09
Speaker 2: the program I needed popped up on the screen in
25:11
Speaker 2: front of me spontaneously, and everything I needed was right there.
25:15
Speaker 2: It was she was looking off to you. So I'm
25:19
Speaker 2: quite certain and still is to an extent. So in
25:22
Speaker 2: any case, I started inhaling the Browns gas, and the
25:25
Speaker 2: first time I inhaled about fifteen minutes at night. I
25:28
Speaker 2: didn't sleep all that night. I was a wide awaken alert.
25:32
Speaker 1: Is this when you're when you set everything up and
25:35
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I'm gonna try this, I'm gonna make
25:37
Speaker 1: it safe, and I'm going to record it. Is this
25:38
Speaker 1: the YouTube video that you recorded of the first time
25:41
Speaker 1: you inhaled it.
25:42
Speaker 2: That's right, that's exactly okay, perfect. So that night I
25:45
Speaker 2: didn't sleep. I was wide awaken alert. It wasn't like
25:48
Speaker 2: a coffee buzz or anything. It just and I'm used
25:51
Speaker 2: to falling asleep against a rock, you know, So that
25:54
Speaker 2: was very disconcerting. And I started inhaling then in the
25:56
Speaker 2: mornings so that it would all be cleared out by
25:59
Speaker 2: the time I go to sleep. And then eventually, when
26:01
Speaker 2: my body got used to the hydrogen, I was able
26:03
Speaker 2: to inhale anytime and it doesn't bother my sleep at all,
26:07
Speaker 2: it's fine, but obviously I needed it. But one of
26:10
Speaker 2: the first things that happened when I started to inhale
26:13
Speaker 2: was it my psoriasis started to peel off. I had
26:16
Speaker 2: white white skin on my elbows, knees, and feet that
26:19
Speaker 2: I thought was just scar not scar tissue. What do
26:22
Speaker 2: you call it? With the uh when your skin build
26:25
Speaker 2: a callusis So I just thought it was just thick
26:27
Speaker 2: skin from working and stuff. But it wasn't. And when
26:29
Speaker 2: it peeled off, it was like a snake shedding its skin,
26:32
Speaker 2: and I thought, and that was very disconcerting. But underneath
26:35
Speaker 2: was baby's smooth skin, So I thought that was all right.
26:37
Speaker 2: And then another thing that happened after.
26:39
Speaker 1: You started inhaling, it did did that start happening?
26:42
Speaker 2: That was within in a couple of weeks. That was
26:44
Speaker 2: that was relatively quickly. And then and then about the time.
26:48
Speaker 1: When you were alert all night, you're like, okay, I've
26:50
Speaker 1: got something here.
26:52
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well I was still working on that. But but
26:55
Speaker 2: what really convinced me was that my libido came back. Okay,
26:59
Speaker 2: within three weeks, I suddenly had as a fifty something
27:02
Speaker 2: year old man, I was I had the libido of
27:05
Speaker 2: a seventeen year old. Okay, it was pretty phenomenal. And
27:10
Speaker 2: I can tell you that if you have a lead
27:12
Speaker 2: a strong libido, you care if you live or die.
27:14
Speaker 2: So that literally saved my life. I understand very intimately
27:20
Speaker 2: how spouses follow each other into the grave, because it
27:23
Speaker 2: would have happened to me, no question, and I've seen
27:25
Speaker 2: it happen to a dozen men since. But the inhaling
27:29
Speaker 2: of the Browns guest brought back my libido, which made
27:32
Speaker 2: me care that I was living and enjoying my body again,
27:35
Speaker 2: and I started dating women, and some of my friends,
27:39
Speaker 2: especially ones that were friends of my glate wife, were
27:42
Speaker 2: very upset with me because they thought I didn't care
27:46
Speaker 2: about this woman that had been the love of my
27:48
Speaker 2: life because I was now dating women again. But I
27:52
Speaker 2: couldn't not I wanted to have sex, so you need
27:56
Speaker 2: a partner to do that, at least enjoyably. So I
28:00
Speaker 2: did start dating, and over a period of a few months,
28:03
Speaker 2: I eventually met the woman and I'm now married to
28:05
Speaker 2: and I got remarried. But in the process, getting back
28:09
Speaker 2: to what happened, I after a month of inhaling and
28:14
Speaker 2: having nothing but good things happened. I went back to
28:16
Speaker 2: my customers, and I told them, like these thousands of customers,
28:20
Speaker 2: and told them how they could modify their ER fifty
28:22
Speaker 2: machine so that they could safely inhaled like I was doing.
28:26
Speaker 2: And then the testimonials really started to come in. Like
28:29
Speaker 2: I have a long list of things that happened to me,
28:31
Speaker 2: which we can get into in a minute, but this
28:34
Speaker 2: is important. About three months after I told people that
28:37
Speaker 2: they could inhale, a woman got back to me who
28:40
Speaker 2: had Lupa's symptoms and told me that her Luba's symptoms
28:43
Speaker 2: were gone in three weeks time, after she stopped or
28:47
Speaker 2: after she started inhaling at the Brown. Wow.
28:50
Speaker 1: And how did that hit you? I mean, that must
28:54
Speaker 1: have been challenging for you because your late wife had
28:57
Speaker 1: just passed away.
28:58
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I was form of lupus, that's right,
29:01
Speaker 2: and she had never inhaled the gas. And of course
29:04
Speaker 2: this hit me like a like a ton I just
29:06
Speaker 2: I literally fell to the floor. I was literally crying
29:10
Speaker 2: on the carpet, just sobbing, and I couldn't stop because
29:14
Speaker 2: I realized in that instant, in that instant that I
29:18
Speaker 2: read that email, that I had Brown's gas in my shop.
29:21
Speaker 2: Since nineteen eighty six. I'd been told that it had
29:24
Speaker 2: health applications since nineteen ninety six. I was told by
29:28
Speaker 2: hundreds of people by two thousand and six that it
29:31
Speaker 2: was it was good. We were trying, since two thousand
29:34
Speaker 2: and six everything that we could think of to try
29:36
Speaker 2: to help my late wife get better. And here it was,
29:40
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, this woman said Brown's gas. Three weeks time,
29:45
Speaker 2: all the pain and suffering, the financial, the physical, the
29:50
Speaker 2: emotional suffering that we went through would totally not have happened.
29:55
Speaker 2: She would still be alive, I'd still be having her
29:58
Speaker 2: in my life, and she'd be making a difference in
30:00
Speaker 2: the world because the things that she was doing were
30:03
Speaker 2: world changing. A whole nother story, but I realized at
30:07
Speaker 2: that instant, as I saw myself out on the floor,
30:09
Speaker 2: that that was what I call my Jonah moment. That
30:12
Speaker 2: was the moment that the whale spit me up on
30:14
Speaker 2: the beach. That was the moment where I said, God,
30:16
Speaker 2: I understand I need to dedicate my life to serving
30:20
Speaker 2: your will, which is to help as many people as
30:23
Speaker 2: possible not go through that pain and suffering and financial
30:27
Speaker 2: devastation that we went through. So that's when it changed everything.
30:32
Speaker 2: That's the point. All of my life up to that
30:35
Speaker 2: point had had made it so that it changed everything.
30:38
Speaker 2: And then ten years since, there were times most of
30:41
Speaker 2: the time I was working from three o'clock in the
30:43
Speaker 2: morning till eight pm at night, sleeping maybe five hours
30:46
Speaker 2: in a day, getting all this together so that I
30:49
Speaker 2: could help people. And I helped. I helped many, many thousands,
30:53
Speaker 2: many tens of thousands of people so far get better.
30:56
Speaker 2: And I love these testimonials. I remember. We can go
30:59
Speaker 2: over some of the other testimonials later, but the point is.
31:03
Speaker 1: Well, I want you to tell us how your health
31:05
Speaker 1: started changing. And I wanted to just say that I
31:08
Speaker 1: literally got chills as you're speaking. I could just feel
31:11
Speaker 1: the passion and the truth of this. You know, it's
31:14
Speaker 1: I talked to so many people, but I can hear
31:17
Speaker 1: the authenticity and the integrity and the truth of all
31:20
Speaker 1: of this and how this transformed, like it's literally running
31:25
Speaker 1: through my mind like a movie right now. And so
31:27
Speaker 1: I'm really curious to know what did you begin noticing
31:30
Speaker 1: in the changes in your health through the months that
31:32
Speaker 1: followed that moment when you decided to finally start inhaling it.
31:36
Speaker 2: Yes, I actually made a list. I'm looking up at
31:39
Speaker 2: a list I have above here to see. So first
31:41
Speaker 2: of all, the psoriasis on my elbows, knees, and feet
31:43
Speaker 2: disappeared in about three weeks time. The arthritis in my
31:47
Speaker 2: hands like I had very painful and weak hands, disappeared
31:51
Speaker 2: in about three months. I had very severe tonightis where
31:56
Speaker 2: and all of this, by the way, was still happening
31:58
Speaker 2: while I was drinking the Browns Guest bubble water, And
32:00
Speaker 2: so only after I started inhaling did all of these
32:04
Speaker 2: things disappear. So now I hear a slight hiss when
32:07
Speaker 2: I get really stressed. So that took about eight months.
32:09
Speaker 2: My neuropathies disappeared, like I'd lost the feeling in the
32:13
Speaker 2: palm of my left hand and from my knees to
32:15
Speaker 2: my feet. On the shins of both legs, you could
32:17
Speaker 2: stick pins in it. There was no feeling left at all.
32:19
Speaker 2: So those neuropathies resolved and I got the full feeling
32:22
Speaker 2: back in all of my skin. That was about six months.
32:25
Speaker 2: My hair was totally gray or white. You can't really
32:29
Speaker 2: see it with the video here, it washes out a lot.
32:32
Speaker 2: But when I took the video back in the day,
32:36
Speaker 2: my hair was down to here, and it was totally white.
32:38
Speaker 2: My mustache was totally white. So I got some color
32:41
Speaker 2: back in my hair and some of the hairs started
32:44
Speaker 2: to grow back on my head. So I have hairs
32:46
Speaker 2: up to here now where I had been mostly bald,
32:49
Speaker 2: and I'm still most wild, and I don't mind the look.
32:52
Speaker 2: It's it's easy to maintain, just to shave it off,
32:55
Speaker 2: and it's good. My heart murmur disappeared. That took about
32:59
Speaker 2: eight months. But what happened was the wife I'm married
33:03
Speaker 2: to now, the woman i'm married to now, he sent
33:06
Speaker 2: me into the doctor because I very seldom ever went
33:08
Speaker 2: into doctors in all of my life. But I knew
33:10
Speaker 2: I had a heart murmur from when I was a child,
33:12
Speaker 2: and that's a weak, fluttery heart valve. And my grandfather
33:15
Speaker 2: died of complications of his heart murmur, so it was
33:18
Speaker 2: a genetically predispo disposed to having that particular fault in
33:23
Speaker 2: my heart. But it was gone. The heart murmur was gone.
33:26
Speaker 2: My heart healed. And I had hadwartz that I had
33:29
Speaker 2: had from when I was a kid, and they're a virus,
33:31
Speaker 2: but my immune system hadn't been strong enough to get
33:33
Speaker 2: rid of them, and they disappeared. That took about six months.
33:37
Speaker 2: My eyesight improved. I've now passed two drivers tests without
33:42
Speaker 2: my glasses, at which i'd worn since I was about
33:45
Speaker 2: nine years old. I wore glasses, so my eyes improved.
33:48
Speaker 2: All the scars disappeared off my body, so I don't
33:51
Speaker 2: know if it can be. It's hard to see. I
33:54
Speaker 2: had a scar here on my forehead which was I
33:57
Speaker 2: don't know if you can see it anymore. My skin
34:00
Speaker 2: still bends when I wrinkle my forehead. It still bends
34:02
Speaker 2: around that area where the scar was, but now it's skin,
34:05
Speaker 2: which means that my my regeneration systems and stem cells
34:10
Speaker 2: came back online because it took that scar tissue where
34:13
Speaker 2: my body had just patched a wound and instead of
34:16
Speaker 2: healing it properly, and it got rid of the scar
34:19
Speaker 2: and regenerated the skin. And interestingly enough, all the scars
34:23
Speaker 2: disappeared from my body in reverse order to when I
34:27
Speaker 2: got them. I found that to be very interesting. So
34:29
Speaker 2: the ones that I got when I was a baby
34:31
Speaker 2: practically were the last to go. It was just as
34:35
Speaker 2: a matter of interest. So the and my libido I
34:38
Speaker 2: already told. Within four weeks I had got my liberto back,
34:41
Speaker 2: my muscles hardened. One of the things you do when
34:43
Speaker 2: you're when you're inhaling is you get an exercise like
34:47
Speaker 2: reaction out of your body, and your muscles get strong.
34:50
Speaker 2: And then and of course my biological age reversed. There's
34:55
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of reasons why that happened, so that
34:57
Speaker 2: I actually look younger now than I did, like I
35:00
Speaker 2: said twenty years ago, and just comparing pictures from then
35:03
Speaker 2: to now kind of thing so people could see wow.
35:06
Speaker 2: And then four years after I started inhaling, I actually
35:11
Speaker 2: noticed that my balance came back. I was standing in
35:15
Speaker 2: the shower washing my feet, my toes, and I realized
35:17
Speaker 2: I wasn't leaning against the shower wall anymore. I can't
35:21
Speaker 2: even remember when I had not leaned against the shower wall,
35:24
Speaker 2: so that my balance came back. So nerves, regeneration, brain, regeneration, skin,
35:31
Speaker 2: all my orders were repairing themselves and regenerating.
35:35
Speaker 1: So that's absolutely incredible. And I think it's important that
35:39
Speaker 1: we asked this question because the audience is probably thinking
35:42
Speaker 1: that it sounds incredible, but it also sounds pretty hard
35:45
Speaker 1: to believe. How do you typically respond to healthy skepticism
35:50
Speaker 1: from people and what do you encourage people to look
35:53
Speaker 1: for themselves before they make up their own minds.
35:56
Speaker 2: That's healthy skepticism. I addressed it a couple of ways.
35:58
Speaker 2: First of all, when I was going through all that
36:01
Speaker 2: pain and suffering financially and everything, when we'd buy a
36:04
Speaker 2: machine for four or five thousand dollars to put electrons
36:08
Speaker 2: in your body or whatever it is that we were
36:10
Speaker 2: doing at the time, that was a done sale. You
36:13
Speaker 2: couldn't get it back, you couldn't return it and get
36:15
Speaker 2: your money back kind of thing. What I did, what
36:17
Speaker 2: I'm doing to help the skepticism is just the opposite.
36:21
Speaker 2: I give a one year satisfaction guarantee on our machines,
36:25
Speaker 2: so people say, can it help and fill in the blank, cancer, Parkinson's, als, lupus,
36:31
Speaker 2: any of the audio immune autoimmune diseases. And that's just
36:34
Speaker 2: the serious things. We're not even talking about the less
36:36
Speaker 2: serious things that are happening, like people not just not
36:39
Speaker 2: having enough energy to deal with their day. There's actually
36:42
Speaker 2: doctors prescribing Brown's gas for depression because it's almost impossible
36:46
Speaker 2: to feel depressed when you're inhaling the Browns gas. So
36:50
Speaker 2: that's what I say to the skeptics. Is try it.
36:53
Speaker 2: You're skeptical, It's not going to cost you anything except
36:55
Speaker 2: shipping and to try the machine. And so that's how
36:59
Speaker 2: we address the skeptic part, is that first of all,
37:02
Speaker 2: I know that it isn't for everyone, and everyone has
37:05
Speaker 2: a choice and they can choose to go with the
37:07
Speaker 2: traditional doctors and which we did a lot of that
37:11
Speaker 2: stuff and it didn't do anything, or you can try this.
37:15
Speaker 2: And the nice thing about this is it helps it.
37:17
Speaker 2: It's very synergistic with other modalities as well, like people
37:21
Speaker 2: are doing hyperbaric oxygen and infrared therapies and stuff. The
37:25
Speaker 2: Browns gas works very well because it's literally nutrition and
37:29
Speaker 2: because seventy sixty two percent of our body is hydrogen
37:34
Speaker 2: by volume and twenty four percent oxygen and twelve percent
37:37
Speaker 2: carbon and two percent everything else. So our most important
37:40
Speaker 2: macro nutrient is hydrogen. And so when you get enough hydrogen,
37:45
Speaker 2: then your body can heal itself from all the various
37:47
Speaker 2: things that happen when you don't have enough hydrogen, Like
37:50
Speaker 2: if you don't have enough hydrogen, your body will who
37:53
Speaker 2: your body knows, really knows how to stay alive. Your
37:55
Speaker 2: body will start shutting down extraneous systems that are not
37:58
Speaker 2: immediately life threatening. Your regeneration system goes first with the
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Speaker 2: stem cells and all that kind of stuff, so you
38:04
Speaker 2: age faster. If you still don't have enough hydrogen, your
38:07
Speaker 2: immune systems will start to shut down because they're not
38:10
Speaker 2: immediately life threatening, but you're going to get sick easier
38:12
Speaker 2: and not get well as quickly. And then if you
38:15
Speaker 2: still don't have enough hydrogen, your organs will start to
38:17
Speaker 2: fail and then you'll die. So when you got enough hydrogen,
38:20
Speaker 2: my organs healed, my immune systems came back online, my
38:23
Speaker 2: regeneration system came back online. And these are all things
38:26
Speaker 2: that I've personally experienced and my customers have been reporting
38:29
Speaker 2: with their testimonials. So if your skeptic, that's another thing
38:32
Speaker 2: is to look at the testimonials, which unfortunately I don't have.
38:36
Speaker 2: I have hundreds of testimonials, but I only have a
38:38
Speaker 2: few up online. But they are there. Again, it's a
38:41
Speaker 2: matter of time. I'm busy, and we're selling as many
38:45
Speaker 2: machines as we can manufacture in this particular facility. So
38:49
Speaker 2: I'm just we're increasing manufacturing capability by steps, and every
38:53
Speaker 2: time I increase my manufacturing ability, the God sends a
38:56
Speaker 2: bunch more people to buy the machines, so I have
39:00
Speaker 2: had time to follow up. I'm actually hiring more people
39:02
Speaker 2: so that we can get those websites developed and get
39:05
Speaker 2: more of the testimonials up online so that people can
39:07
Speaker 2: look for a particular ailment, like if they have als
39:10
Speaker 2: for example, or COPD or something, they can look and
39:13
Speaker 2: see what happened with other people and that will help
39:16
Speaker 2: the skepticism as well.
39:17
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely so. Is this for anybody like for so
39:23
Speaker 1: you mentioned the people who struggle with energy, the people
39:26
Speaker 1: who have anxiety and depression. Who is this made for
39:31
Speaker 1: and is it for everyone?
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Speaker 2: Essentially it's it's actually for every living being because you
39:38
Speaker 2: could treat animals and plants and any water based life
39:42
Speaker 2: form all requires this hydrogen for health. But the Browns
39:46
Speaker 2: gas machine that we have, the Equacure, is specifically designed
39:49
Speaker 2: so you can adjust the gas production for anything from
39:52
Speaker 2: an infant to a five hundred pound person, so you
39:55
Speaker 2: can get the optimal two percent hydrogen. And there's a
39:59
Speaker 2: I will say quick that there are a lot of
40:01
Speaker 2: me too's and knockoffs out there that promote more is better,
40:04
Speaker 2: and that's not true. More is dangerous because if you
40:07
Speaker 2: go over that four point seven percent hydrogen in your
40:10
Speaker 2: intake breath, it's potentially explosive and and somebody's going to
40:14
Speaker 2: get hurt. If there's an explosion, then that happens. So
40:16
Speaker 2: you can dial this machine down to the optimal level
40:20
Speaker 2: for any sized person or animal and the and and
40:24
Speaker 2: they have proven scientifically since because now there's been thousands
40:27
Speaker 2: of scientific studies on hydrogen for health, they've proven that
40:30
Speaker 2: two percent in the inhaled breath is the optimal level.
40:33
Speaker 2: If you go more than two percent, like three percent,
40:35
Speaker 2: for you get no more benefit. It doesn't hurt you,
40:38
Speaker 2: there's no there's no negative side effects to the hydrogen inhalation,
40:42
Speaker 2: but there's and that's one of the nice things about
40:44
Speaker 2: it as well. You can't get too much, so I can,
40:47
Speaker 2: but longer is better. So those people who have cancer,
40:50
Speaker 2: for example, they need about eight hours of inhalation a day,
40:54
Speaker 2: and somebody that's really healthy and just wants to maintain
40:57
Speaker 2: their health maybe an hour. But it's nutrition. Think of it.
40:59
Speaker 2: When you're eating your food, you eat for about an
41:02
Speaker 2: hour a day, so you're inhaling for about an hour
41:04
Speaker 2: a day to get that same nutrition. That kind of
41:06
Speaker 2: thing that's going on you.
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Speaker 1: Use it, Like for the average person, how do you
41:10
Speaker 1: use it? When do you use it? And do you
41:12
Speaker 1: use it at different times or can you put it
41:14
Speaker 1: on in the morning, say when you're getting ready and
41:17
Speaker 1: inhale it and then go about your day.
41:19
Speaker 2: Everybody is different, so that everybody has to listen to
41:21
Speaker 2: their own body. Those people that have serious ailments and
41:24
Speaker 2: need many hours, they sleep with it generally because then
41:28
Speaker 2: your day is is yours to do with what you will.
41:31
Speaker 2: Some people break it up and do segments several times
41:35
Speaker 2: during the day a few minutes, like ten or fifteen minutes,
41:37
Speaker 2: three or four times a day. There's people that do
41:40
Speaker 2: mostly in the morning because that's when they have time
41:42
Speaker 2: to sit down while they read the newspaper or watch
41:44
Speaker 2: the news or whatever they're doing and eating their breakfast.
41:47
Speaker 2: So everybody's different, and the main thing is to get
41:50
Speaker 2: the nutrition into your body. It's like I ask a
41:53
Speaker 2: trainer one time what exercise would be best for me,
41:56
Speaker 2: and the trainer's response, I always will remember this was
42:01
Speaker 2: whatever you will do, okay. So that's kind of the
42:06
Speaker 2: way it is. It just find out when it's best
42:09
Speaker 2: for you to get it into you.
42:11
Speaker 1: Amazing. One question I want to ask you, is that.
42:14
Speaker 1: I mean, over the years, I'm sure you had people
42:18
Speaker 1: that were non understanding what you were doing or perhaps
42:21
Speaker 1: challenging challenging you on it. And after interviewing many entrepreneurs,
42:25
Speaker 1: every one of them reaches a point where they're like,
42:28
Speaker 1: I have to decide whether I'm going to follow my
42:29
Speaker 1: purpose or start listening to everyone else's opinions. How did
42:32
Speaker 1: you block out that noise?
42:34
Speaker 2: Okay, this is where my high level autism comes in.
42:37
Speaker 2: Really well. When I focus on a project, the rest
42:40
Speaker 2: of the world goes away, got it. I literally have
42:43
Speaker 2: to set Even today, I set three alarms on my
42:46
Speaker 2: phone so that I would know when alarm would go off,
42:50
Speaker 2: and i'd look at the phone. It's better than tying
42:51
Speaker 2: a string on your finger because the string doesn't tell
42:53
Speaker 2: you what it's for. But I could set my alarms
42:55
Speaker 2: on my phone. When I get up in the morning,
42:56
Speaker 2: I look at my calendar. I set my alarms so
42:59
Speaker 2: that they'll go off, just as an example of what
43:02
Speaker 2: I do to come back to the world. So for me,
43:06
Speaker 2: it actually a benefit of A side benefit of the
43:09
Speaker 2: autism was being able to block everything else out and
43:12
Speaker 2: focus on what's real. It's one of the things I
43:15
Speaker 2: learned because on the ranch, we didn't have experts telling
43:18
Speaker 2: us what to think or how to think. We had
43:23
Speaker 2: to know with what was real, what was actually the
43:25
Speaker 2: facts of life. And so that's what I got, that ability,
43:30
Speaker 2: and I concentrated on that so that I could say
43:32
Speaker 2: the four point seven to one air fuel ratio that's
43:35
Speaker 2: taught to all mechanics is incorrect, because I know what's real,
43:39
Speaker 2: and it can be as much as two hundred to
43:41
Speaker 2: one that the engine is actually running on. Just because
43:44
Speaker 2: you put a bunch of fuel into the engine doesn't
43:46
Speaker 2: necessarily mean that it's actually running on that fuel. Most
43:50
Speaker 2: of it's wasted. So if you could just redo the
43:52
Speaker 2: fuel system so you're not wasting that fuel, you go
43:54
Speaker 2: much further on a gallon of gas. It's pretty simple.
43:57
Speaker 2: But I deal with reality, and I've done so much
44:01
Speaker 2: that like in the seventies, I got severe suppression on
44:05
Speaker 2: my fuel saving technology, where there was various things happening.
44:09
Speaker 2: My phones were tapped, my packages would get lost in
44:12
Speaker 2: the mail, inexplicable things that were going on, and I
44:16
Speaker 2: had state attorneys. My business was investigated seven times by
44:20
Speaker 2: various government agencies in the United States and Canada, and
44:23
Speaker 2: there was not one complaint, not one customer that they
44:26
Speaker 2: could find that would complain against me so they could
44:29
Speaker 2: charge me with something. So I dealt with what was
44:32
Speaker 2: real and I helped my customers get results they and
44:36
Speaker 2: if they're not getting results, then they send the stuff
44:38
Speaker 2: back and I give them a refund. I'm just that's
44:41
Speaker 2: the integrity part. I don't profit from anybody unless they
44:44
Speaker 2: get a benefit from my technology.
44:46
Speaker 1: George, I love this interview. Was so amazing, just sitting
44:50
Speaker 1: and chatting with you. It feels like we're having a coffee.
44:52
Speaker 1: If your late wife could see everything that you built today,
44:56
Speaker 1: what do you think she would say to you?
44:58
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I think that she supported me
45:01
Speaker 2: in every possible way that it was, and I think
45:04
Speaker 2: that she would appreciate what I've done, what I've continued
45:07
Speaker 2: to do, and how I have honored her sacrifice, because
45:12
Speaker 2: quite frankly, if I had realized what was going on
45:15
Speaker 2: earlier and we had gotten Brown's gas into her, she'd
45:18
Speaker 2: still be alive and helping. But I think that she
45:20
Speaker 2: is helping even in wherever she is right now.
45:24
Speaker 1: And George, when people hear the name George Wiseman, years
45:28
Speaker 1: from now, what do you hope they remember?
45:30
Speaker 2: I hope they remember that I helped them.
45:33
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. That's beautiful. I know you're helping so many people,
45:37
Speaker 1: and this is only the start of it. Essentially, I
45:41
Speaker 1: would love for you to tell people more about where
45:44
Speaker 1: they can find you, where they can look up your products.
45:47
Speaker 2: On my Eagle dash research dot com website. I have
45:51
Speaker 2: all of my innovations and books and stuff, and people
45:53
Speaker 2: can see that. So Eagle like the bird, then a dashmark,
45:57
Speaker 2: and then research dot com and they can they can
46:00
Speaker 2: just it's like an encyclopedia. You can lose yourself in
46:03
Speaker 2: the hundreds of pages there. But if you look for
46:05
Speaker 2: the aquakure or Brown's gas, you can start researching there
46:09
Speaker 2: and there'll be links where you can go on out.
46:11
Speaker 2: I would not depend on Google or Chat, GPT or
46:15
Speaker 2: almost any of those ais to research Brown's gas and
46:19
Speaker 2: get the truthful answer, because you're going to get the
46:21
Speaker 2: Wolke answers out there. They really don't know what Brown's
46:25
Speaker 2: gas really is. So if once you understand what Brown's
46:28
Speaker 2: gas is, you can you can do a better job,
46:30
Speaker 2: which of course has an inventor. That's what I have
46:32
Speaker 2: to do. Is I have to understand why something really
46:35
Speaker 2: works before you can make something better, and that's eventing
46:40
Speaker 2: about ninety percent of the time. Ninety nine percent of
46:42
Speaker 2: the time you're wrong. You come up with a theory
46:45
Speaker 2: or hypothesis and you test it and you find out
46:48
Speaker 2: what really works. And then that one percent the time
46:50
Speaker 2: when you find something that works better than anything else,
46:54
Speaker 2: that's where your whole business gets built off from. And
46:56
Speaker 2: that's what's happened. So we're good.
46:58
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for digging d and sharing about
47:01
Speaker 1: your heart. I think getting to know the person behind
47:04
Speaker 1: their invention is so important, especially these days. People want
47:07
Speaker 1: to know what someone is like before they connect with
47:12
Speaker 1: their products. And I think people are going to connect
47:15
Speaker 1: so much with you and this conversation because it's so
47:17
Speaker 1: much more than science. In this conversation, there's so much
47:22
Speaker 1: about love and grief and hope and finding purpose and passion,
47:26
Speaker 1: and I can hear that in your voice. So thanks
47:29
Speaker 1: so much, and I also want to thank the audience
47:32
Speaker 1: for tuning in and for listening. If today's conversation inspired you,
47:36
Speaker 1: make sure you follow us at the Advisor because this
47:39
Speaker 1: is just the beginning of George Wiseman's story. He's going
47:43
Speaker 1: to be joining us for a series. We're going to
47:44
Speaker 1: be going deeper on who he is and the Brown Gas.
47:49
Speaker 1: So in our next episode, we're going to be shifting gears.
47:52
Speaker 1: We're going to be diving into the science. We're going
47:54
Speaker 1: to be exploring why George believes that hydrogen deserves far
47:59
Speaker 1: more attention world of health and wellness, and why he's
48:02
Speaker 1: devoted so many years to researching it. So, if you'd
48:06
Speaker 1: like to learn more about his work, please visit Eagle
48:10
Speaker 1: Dash research dot com. So that's Eagle with a Dash
48:15
Speaker 1: research dot com where you can learn more about George's work,
48:18
Speaker 1: his books, all these amazing products. And if this episode
48:22
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48:25
Speaker 1: You never know whose life may change simply because they've
48:28
Speaker 1: heard a story of someone who refused to give up.
48:31
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for tuning in, everyone, Take care, bye
48:34
Speaker 1: for now,