Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Akeem Ali Talks New Tour, 'The Texture Tape 3,' Muni Long, Fatherhood, Meeting His Father, Rap Career + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hold up. Every day I wake up.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. You all finished
- 0:05Speaker 2: or y'all done?
- 0:08Speaker 1: Morning, everybody.
- 0:09Speaker 3: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
- 0:12Speaker 1: We are The Breakfast Club.
- 0:14Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building. He is
- 0:15Speaker 3: not sitting, ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:18Speaker 2: What type of dumb shit you on?
- 0:19Speaker 1: Stop playing my man.
- 0:21Speaker 3: I came out late, ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:22Speaker 1: What's up, man? Y'all ready?
- 0:23Speaker 3: You're not going to sit?
- 0:24Speaker 1: Yes, sir. I want to start this off by telling y'all,
- 0:26Speaker 1: don't play with my fucking toe.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Don't play with your toe.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Put some respect on my fucking toe. And put some
- 0:31Speaker 1: respect on my fucking name.
- 0:33Speaker 2: What's wrong with your toe?
- 0:33Speaker 3: Remember your toe?
- 0:35Speaker 1: My toe. T-O-U-R. You know what I'm talking about.
- 0:38Speaker 4: Oh, toe.
- 0:38Speaker 2: I look down at your feet like you had on sandals.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Stop playing with my fucking toe.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Stop playing with my music. I ain't gonna say it
- 0:44Speaker 1: no more.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
- 0:45Speaker 3: I better tell the king that he didn't talk into
- 0:47Speaker 3: the mic so nobody heard that part of you.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say it no more.
- 0:50Speaker 2: There you go.
- 0:51Speaker 1: What's up with y'all, man?
- 0:52Speaker 2: What's up?
- 0:54Speaker 1: The Prince of Zamunda. What's up, brother? Jackson, Mississippi in
- 0:57Speaker 1: the building.
- 0:58Speaker 2: You have a lot of supporters.
- 1:00Speaker 1: I try my best.
- 1:00Speaker 5: Because every time you post, hey, Breakfast Club, what's up?
- 1:04Speaker 5: Not only do I get a lot of hits, like,
- 1:06Speaker 5: you know, people hitting me on Instagram. I get actual
- 1:08Speaker 5: phone calls.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to put a file to your ass, man.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Me as well.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Yo, what's up with Akeem?
- 1:13Speaker 5: I'm going to tell everybody from Wallo to Claudia Jordan, like,
- 1:16Speaker 5: my phone.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:17Speaker 2: A lot of people land it too.
- 1:18Speaker 3: DJ Mono, Louis V hit me.
- 1:20Speaker 1: I need your kids calling, your mama. Get them on.
- 1:23Speaker 2: The show, baby. Everybody.
- 1:24Speaker 4: Well, clothes moms don't get fed.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Come on, now.
- 1:26Speaker 4: Tell us about yourself.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Akeem Ali, the greatest rapper in the world, to no
- 1:29Speaker 1: fault of my own, the most handsomest man walking God's
- 1:31Speaker 1: green earth. He want this for me, so I'm just
- 1:33Speaker 1: basking in it. Shit, very talented, from Jackson, Mississippi. Again,
- 1:37Speaker 1: I state Jackson, Mississippi. You know, I do give a
- 1:40Speaker 1: lot of credit to Atlanta for helping me, you know,
- 1:42Speaker 1: get here. You're from Jackson.
- 1:44Speaker 4: Mississippi, but your music give me, like, West Coast a
- 1:46Speaker 4: little bit.
- 1:47Speaker 1: West Coast? Yeah.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 1:48Speaker 1: I like it, though, you know.
- 1:50Speaker 2: I do. Yeah.
- 1:51Speaker 4: The joint, the Casanova joint, the Kim Casanova.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Kimmy Casanova, yeah.
- 1:56Speaker 4: It gives a West Coast feel.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Oh, somebody told me they thought I was from like
- 1:59Speaker 1: the Bay or something like that.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:02Speaker 6: So that's not intentional. That's just what happened like that.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Yeah, it just kind of happened like that.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
- 2:07Speaker 1: You know, it's like a branding thing. you're not supposed
- 2:11Speaker 1: to be able to tell a lot of shit about me.
- 2:13Speaker 1: It needs to be some room for wonder and like,
- 2:16Speaker 1: what is it actually? Who is he? Where is he from?
- 2:18Speaker 1: How did he get here? Why the fuck are people
- 2:20Speaker 1: calling me about this guy? You know what I'm saying?
- 2:22Speaker 1: There needs to be some type of mystery or ambiguity
- 2:25Speaker 1: going on in there.
- 2:26Speaker 5: Somebody in the room was like, we were listening to
- 2:28Speaker 5: your music, and somebody did say you sound like David.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Banner, so you could definitely hear.
- 2:31Speaker 1: My accent or what?
- 2:32Speaker 2: I don't know. What was it that you said? Say
- 2:33Speaker 2: it again.
- 2:34Speaker 4: She said, I think it was just how would you float.
- 2:37Speaker 2: How would you float?
- 2:38Speaker 1: Float. My pitch? Oh, okay, for sure.
- 2:41Speaker 3: I want to start from the beginning, from Jackson, Mississippi.
- 2:44Speaker 3: What got you into rapping? What was the first thing
- 2:47Speaker 3: that said, I can do this? I want to talk
- 2:49Speaker 3: about what got you to that moment.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Listening to music, man. Just cutting shit on. And I
- 2:55Speaker 1: wasn't super intrigued by music up until seven or eight
- 3:01Speaker 1: years old. And I can remember sitting in front of
- 3:02Speaker 1: the radio listening to John Legend's album called.
- 3:08Speaker 2: What is it? Usher.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Shit. Like, Bone Thugs and Twista and trying to learn
- 3:12Speaker 1: the words to that. And that was, like, very, very
- 3:14Speaker 1: early on. And then, like, later on, I got into, like, Wayne, Boosie, and, like,
- 3:18Speaker 1: all of that stuff.
- 3:19Speaker 2: So I see where the melodic and the flow come from.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was just a melting pot of a
- 3:23Speaker 1: bunch of different shit. Like, I remember when, like, Mike
- 3:25Speaker 1: Jones first came out, and he was like, dude, don't
- 3:28Speaker 1: fail me now. Like, my cousin and I, I'm listening
- 3:29Speaker 1: to that. And we stayed down the street from this dude.
- 3:31Speaker 1: He used to rap Bone Thugs and twist, like, word
- 3:33Speaker 1: for fucking word. And I was like, this nigga is talented.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Whatever he's doing, I have to do it. But it
- 3:38Speaker 1: wasn't his shit, though. But, yeah, man, it just kind of, like,
- 3:41Speaker 1: got into it. It just fell on me, for real.
- 3:43Speaker 5: That song should never be said around a bunch of guys, either.
- 3:46Speaker 5: You got to say that song only in the presence
- 3:48Speaker 5: of women.
- 3:49Speaker 1: There's women in here.
- 3:50Speaker 2: I'm done. Just making sure.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Now, coming from Jackson, Mississippi.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Y'all finished it. Y'all done.
- 3:54Speaker 2: We done.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Coming from Jackson, Mississippi.
- 3:58Speaker 3: How difficult was it to get on? I was actually
- 4:00Speaker 3: in Jackson a week ago. And there's just so many
- 4:04Speaker 3: different sides of Jackson, right? Yeah. First of all, Jackson
- 4:07Speaker 3: was the downtown area is small. It was pretty as hell.
- 4:11Speaker 3: But they told me they was like, you know, A
- 4:13Speaker 3: lot of crime in Jackson. Oh, yeah. So they said
- 4:15Speaker 3: you got to be extra careful, but it's also a
- 4:17Speaker 3: college town.
- 4:18Speaker 1: And we don't like people like you.
- 4:19Speaker 3: You can see the pride.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Tell me more.
- 4:21Speaker 1: That light skin.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Akeem, tell me more.
- 4:23Speaker 1: That light skin.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Now you went.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Tell me more. They love me down there when I
- 4:26Speaker 1: was out there. They love me out when I was there.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Not me.
- 4:32Speaker 5: I cheered when Nino Brown stabbed the pretty nigga from
- 4:36Speaker 5: the bank.
- 4:36Speaker 2: In the hand on New Jackson.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. You riding between both of them, though. Shit.
- 4:43Speaker 3: He changed his face at one time.
- 4:44Speaker 2: I'm brave.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Like, this nigga's like... This nigga's like, my nigga's life's
- 4:47Speaker 1: getting depending on if the... You know what I'm saying?
- 4:49Speaker 1: If he give me the pretty privilege.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Depending on the lighter.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Depending on the lighter. You see?
- 4:53Speaker 3: It's a joke about getting out of Jackson, Mississippi and.
- 4:55Speaker 1: How difficult it is. Man, it's very fucking difficult, man.
- 4:58Speaker 1: And I, like, so, they say, if you can make
- 5:01Speaker 1: it from here, New York, you can make it anywhere. Yeah,
- 5:05Speaker 1: it's opportunities coming through here left and right. You just
- 5:07Speaker 1: gotta know how to hustle, keep your head on a
- 5:08Speaker 1: swivel and, like, have an eye for shit. And Mississippi
- 5:11Speaker 1: and Jackson, the blackest city in America, we don't have
- 5:14Speaker 1: opportunities come through. We don't get the concerts. We don't
- 5:16Speaker 1: get the artists. We don't get the people. Like, they
- 5:18Speaker 1: skip a lot of shit. The infrastructure is fucked up. Like, They're,
- 5:22Speaker 1: you know, shutting down programs for the kids and for
- 5:24Speaker 1: the youth. Like, they're taking and stripping stuff. Like, it's
- 5:26Speaker 1: a sinking ship. And nobody is paying attention to a
- 5:28Speaker 1: lot of this shit that's happening in Mississippi. Or if
- 5:30Speaker 1: you are paying attention, it's because it's like somebody died
- 5:33Speaker 1: or something tragic happened or like, you know, some shit
- 5:36Speaker 1: unfortunate is going on. And it's like, we do not
- 5:38Speaker 1: get the light shit on us that we need much,
- 5:42Speaker 1: very much so need, but also deserve like the rest
- 5:44Speaker 1: of the people. And there's other small towns that are
- 5:46Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying, in the South
- 5:47Speaker 1: and in other places, you know what I'm saying? But
- 5:48Speaker 1: it's like, shit, we used to be like, you know,
- 5:50Speaker 1: a thriving economy. We used to be booming, man. You
- 5:52Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? It's the birthplace of America's music.
- 5:55Speaker 1: And it's just like, shit, we just get, we don't
- 5:57Speaker 1: even get crumbs. Like, when motherfuckers eat the crumbs, whatever
- 6:00Speaker 1: fall off the crumbs, we just like, Lisa.
- 6:02Speaker 2: They don't even know we exist. No. I'm from a
- 6:05Speaker 2: small town in the south.
- 6:06Speaker 1: I'm from a small town. I'm like, nigga, you ain't
- 6:07Speaker 1: from Jackson. We exist.
- 6:09Speaker 2: We exist. Us.
- 6:10Speaker 1: But it was Jacktown.
- 6:11Speaker 3: They were saying Drake spends a lot of time there.
- 6:13Speaker 1: He does, and I can appreciate Drake for that.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Why? Oh, Tez.
- 6:17Speaker 3: Tez is from there.
- 6:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Well, he from New Orleans. Tez is from New Orleans,
- 6:22Speaker 1: but he went to Jackson State. One of Drake's cousins, CJ,
- 6:26Speaker 1: he's from there. And so like Tez, and I'm, you know,
- 6:29Speaker 1: believing that Tez is part of the reason why Drake
- 6:31Speaker 1: comes and spends a lot of time in Jackson and
- 6:33Speaker 1: shows love to, you know, from shout outs to like,
- 6:36Speaker 1: you know, making sure he does content or pull up,
- 6:38Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? And just like at random
- 6:40Speaker 1: times giving shout outs to Jackson State and stuff like that.
- 6:43Speaker 1: And I can appreciate that, you know what I'm saying?
- 6:44Speaker 1: Because a lot of people, even like when we heard Jackson,
- 6:46Speaker 1: Mississippi and Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars song, I'm like, shit,
- 6:48Speaker 1: they know us? You know what I'm saying? But it's like,
- 6:51Speaker 1: you know, back in the 50s and 60s, that shit
- 6:53Speaker 1: was probably booming. We wouldn't lie, but shit.
- 6:55Speaker 3: And they said Snoop was originally from there, too. That
- 6:56Speaker 3: was another thing they said when I was out there.
- 6:57Speaker 1: From Mississippi, yeah. Rick Ross, Snoop. Oh, shit, we've got Oprah,
- 7:00Speaker 1: I think. I want to say Morgan Freeman. There's a
- 7:03Speaker 1: lot of people originally born in Mississippi. Not Jackson, but
- 7:05Speaker 1: Mississippi in general.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Not too many people represent them.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Like you, Big Crit, Banner, Carlos Miller.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Deer Silas.
- 7:13Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Some other big names and
- 7:14Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah. Somebody is blowing my phone the
- 7:17Speaker 1: fuck up.
- 7:18Speaker 5: I've heard you say that Jackson loves you, but you've
- 7:21Speaker 5: also questioned whether Jackson actually supports you.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:26Speaker 1: That's with anywhere, though. I feel the love. I don't
- 7:30Speaker 1: always feel the support, man. And it ain't a bad thing.
- 7:32Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? If you don't like my
- 7:33Speaker 1: music or if you don't fuck with me, I can't
- 7:34Speaker 1: force you to do that. I can't force that on you.
- 7:37Speaker 1: But it's also like... You got somebody who's on the
- 7:41Speaker 1: forefront championing and rallying for y'all. You know what I'm saying?
- 7:44Speaker 1: And speaking up about shit that sometimes you got to
- 7:47Speaker 1: take them hits and sometimes you have to be comfortable
- 7:49Speaker 1: with people being uncomfortable. You know what I'm saying? When
- 7:52Speaker 1: people talk shit about Bonnie, don't talk shit about where
- 7:54Speaker 1: I'm from. But it's like something has to be said
- 7:56Speaker 1: for something to be done. You know what I'm saying?
- 7:58Speaker 1: And that's what people don't like. And so they talk
- 8:00Speaker 1: shit or they say stuff. I had the mayor sneak
- 8:02Speaker 1: this in me. The previous mayor sneak this in me
- 8:04Speaker 1: on fucking Facebook. What did he say? Just like I'm whining,
- 8:07Speaker 1: I'm crying about like support and like people support me
- 8:10Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I'm like, yes, I am.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Because if I don't say it, you're not going to
- 8:15Speaker 1: say shit. You didn't buy a ticket to see me
- 8:17Speaker 1: on tour or X, Y, Z ain't purchasing these tickets.
- 8:19Speaker 1: I have to say something. But we come from a
- 8:21Speaker 1: space and a place where like if something is happening
- 8:24Speaker 1: to you and you communicate that you're uncomfortable, all you're whining.
- 8:27Speaker 1: And it's like, at what point can we just start
- 8:29Speaker 1: expressing how we feel or saying things without people feeling
- 8:32Speaker 1: attacked or offended? And it's like, you know what I'm saying?
- 8:35Speaker 1: It's a very... Thin line and a great area that
- 8:37Speaker 1: you walk. Like, you just.
- 8:39Speaker 5: Are our hometowns obligated to support us just because we
- 8:42Speaker 5: from there, though?
- 8:42Speaker 2: Because I feel like we got to make something undeniable first.
- 8:46Speaker 1: No. No, no, no. More people supported me in Atlanta.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I'm going to say this as an artist. I wouldn't
- 8:51Speaker 1: be where I am without Atlanta. Atlanta helped me get here.
- 8:55Speaker 1: These two people right here, when I didn't have shit,
- 8:57Speaker 1: Letitia Marie, Kevon Price, Kevo Wise, my director and cameraman. Letitia,
- 9:03Speaker 1: she shoots all of my pictures. Great, phenomenal fucking photographer.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Brian B. Flat Cook, Roy O.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Orleans.
- 9:09Speaker 1: They helped me get where I am, and I met
- 9:11Speaker 1: these people in Atlanta. Kelton, Mr. Mac Media. put all
- 9:16Speaker 1: of this shit on 10 and on Blast for me
- 9:18Speaker 1: when I didn't have the money, when I didn't have
- 9:20Speaker 1: the resources. I couldn't get connected with people. Y'all are
- 9:23Speaker 1: only seeing me on the internet in the capacity that
- 9:26Speaker 1: y'all are because of these people. Lou Williams is another person.
- 9:29Speaker 1: My Winners United team. Like people are seeing me in
- 9:33Speaker 1: a capacity because all of these people that helped me.
- 9:34Speaker 1: And so when people from my hometown are like mad
- 9:36Speaker 1: or upset, I'm like, y'all didn't do shit to help
- 9:38Speaker 1: me get here and you don't have to support it.
- 9:41Speaker 1: I'm not looking for it. I don't, I'm going to
- 9:43Speaker 1: say what I have to say, but I'm going to
- 9:44Speaker 1: make you feel me though. I'm going to make my
- 9:47Speaker 1: presence felt.
- 9:48Speaker 2: You were signed by Lou Will, right?
- 9:49Speaker 1: Oh, we got a joint venture.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:51Speaker 1: And he's been trying to get a contract. He's looking
- 9:52Speaker 1: for you. He just told me to tell you he's
- 9:54Speaker 1: looking for you because he's trying to get his podcast
- 9:55Speaker 1: on the black effect.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Oh, okay. And Miss Spank.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, right here. He's looking for you.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Somebody's looking for you, man. He wants to get in
- 10:04Speaker 1: contact with you, brother.
- 10:06Speaker 4: Shout out to them brothers, though. I listen to their podcast.
- 10:08Speaker 2: So I didn't know y'all were still signed.
- 10:09Speaker 5: I didn't know y'all... Because somebody in here, when you
- 10:12Speaker 5: were reaching out to us, somebody said.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Lou had signed you first, but things went bad.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, no. Things ain't went bad. Like we,
- 10:19Speaker 1: we homeboys, but sometimes the business don't mix or we
- 10:22Speaker 1: just bump heads and stuff like that. And that's what
- 10:24Speaker 1: it's been like through the whole thing. Like, We ain't
- 10:26Speaker 1: agreed all the time or I don't like some of
- 10:28Speaker 1: the stuff he doing or he don't like what I'm
- 10:29Speaker 1: doing or X, Y, and Z. And it's just like, shit,
- 10:31Speaker 1: I don't like it. And right now, I just don't
- 10:33Speaker 1: fuck with you on the business tip. But you can
- 10:35Speaker 1: always call me as a friend or I should be
- 10:37Speaker 1: able to pick up the phone and call you. We
- 10:38Speaker 1: should be able to fall out, have disagreement, have big
- 10:40Speaker 1: feelings towards me. I don't care.
- 10:41Speaker 3: Cuss me out.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Say what the fuck you're going to say. But at
- 10:43Speaker 1: the end of the day, the job needs to get done.
- 10:46Speaker 1: And that's how I operate.
- 10:47Speaker 3: So you're independent. So you're not signed to a major.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Independent like diamonds on a VBS chain.
- 10:51Speaker 3: Do you want to stay independent or are you looking
- 10:54Speaker 3: to go to a major?
- 10:56Speaker 1: I want to go to a major, but I want
- 10:58Speaker 1: it to look right for my situation. I'm not trying
- 11:01Speaker 1: to just be out here struggle rapping for the rest
- 11:03Speaker 1: of my fucking life or the nigga that's always next
- 11:06Speaker 1: up or almost made it. Boy, you heard of Akeem? Yeah,
- 11:08Speaker 1: we've been hearing of the nigga for like 20 years,
- 11:09Speaker 1: but where is he going? Like, no. I need to
- 11:12Speaker 1: get where the fuck I'm trying to go. And for me,
- 11:14Speaker 1: this thing is bigger than Nino Brown. You know what
- 11:16Speaker 1: I'm saying? I'm taking a whole bunch of people with me.
- 11:18Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
- 11:19Speaker 2: But you got to get to where you're going first.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people don't understand that sometimes. Once
- 11:22Speaker 1: you get in position, then you can open the door
- 11:23Speaker 1: for everybody.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah.
- 11:24Speaker 4: You ever try comedy?
- 11:25Speaker 1: Have I ever tried comedy? Mm-hmm. Uh, sometimes.
- 11:30Speaker 2: That mean that he be going up somewhere that he
- 11:32Speaker 2: don't want nobody to know about? His voice crack. His
- 11:33Speaker 2: voice crack like crazy. He be going up somewhere.
- 11:36Speaker 1: If this don't work, I'm going to try comedy. I'm
- 11:37Speaker 1: going to try stand-up. But for right now, I do sit-down.
- 11:40Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like you would be great in that space.
- 11:43Speaker 4: I feel like you've already done it.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
- 11:46Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Back in the day, you had another name, Kimi Casanova?
- 11:52Speaker 1: Well, that's an alter ego that I do. That sounds kinky.
- 11:55Speaker 2: You don't think so?
- 11:56Speaker 1: Nigga, you sound kinky. You just made it kinky. You
- 12:00Speaker 1: sound no damn kinky. You sound creamy, Casanova. It's creamy.
- 12:07Speaker 1: That sounds kinky, brother. No damn kinky. Keemy. He was
- 12:12Speaker 1: inviting you in. He was inviting you in.
- 12:14Speaker 3: That sounds kinky.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Come on in.
- 12:16Speaker 1: He throws creamy.
- 12:17Speaker 2: I didn't say nothing about no creamy. I said keemy Casanova.
- 12:21Speaker 1: That sounds kinky.
- 12:23Speaker 6: What's the difference between Keemy Casanova and a King's?
- 12:27Speaker 1: Man, I'm almost sick of this nigga already shit. Let
- 12:29Speaker 1: me just talk to you shit. The difference is, so
- 12:36Speaker 1: back in what, 2019, I quit my job as a
- 12:39Speaker 1: barber and decided that I wanted to just rap full
- 12:42Speaker 1: time because I didn't have time to do the shit
- 12:43Speaker 1: that I wanted to do as an artist. promote myself,
- 12:46Speaker 1: work all day in the shop, and then go out and, like,
- 12:48Speaker 1: do what I needed to do. I quit my fucking job.
- 12:50Speaker 1: I didn't have a plan. I just said I was
- 12:51Speaker 1: going to, like, do music and post every day and
- 12:54Speaker 1: just make that a thing. And so I swiped my
- 12:56Speaker 1: profile clean of everything and then started posting content. And
- 12:59Speaker 1: I came up with that song, and it was, like,
- 13:03Speaker 1: the perfect mistake. I came up with this pimp persona
- 13:06Speaker 1: because this girl I was talking to one time, she
- 13:09Speaker 1: used to call me Kimi. She started to be like, Kimi, Kimi, Kimi.
- 13:11Speaker 1: And I was just like, ha, ha, ha, crazy shout out.
- 13:14Speaker 1: But it stuck. It stuck.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Okay.
- 13:17Speaker 1: And I used that. Don't worry about it with your
- 13:20Speaker 1: horny ass.
- 13:20Speaker 2: You stay on.
- 13:21Speaker 1: With that, man.
- 13:22Speaker 2: I'm just saying, because you brought it back.
- 13:25Speaker 1: You said you was a pimp. Why'd she call you Kimi?
- 13:28Speaker 4: Kimi.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Why'd she call you Kimi? What the hell?
- 13:30Speaker 2: Rub it on my nipples. Why'd she call you Kimi?
- 13:33Speaker 1: Stop. So tell us a little bit more about this.
- 13:36Speaker 1: But she used to call me that, you know what
- 13:38Speaker 1: I'm saying? And so I just took Casanova. Because, like,
- 13:40Speaker 1: if you're a man, a Casanova is a man that
- 13:42Speaker 1: has many amorous adventures with women. And so I was
- 13:46Speaker 1: just like, shit, I'm going to play, like, Kimi Casanova.
- 13:49Speaker 1: And it was just kind of catchy. And it wasn't
- 13:51Speaker 1: supposed to be my name. It was supposed to be
- 13:53Speaker 1: the name of a song. I literally named the song
- 13:57Speaker 1: Kimi Casanova. And people started calling me that. And so
- 13:59Speaker 1: I was like, all right. And so then I started
- 14:02Speaker 1: putting out regular music. And people was like... Yeah, fuck
- 14:05Speaker 1: all of that. Be the pimp nigga that you... What
- 14:08Speaker 1: the shit you was talking about? Drop dick on a
- 14:10Speaker 1: bitch and say this and say that. And I was
- 14:11Speaker 1: just like, yeah, guys, I was just playing. And they
- 14:13Speaker 1: was like, no, you wasn't.
- 14:15Speaker 4: That's what we want.
- 14:16Speaker 1: And it had to be who you is if you
- 14:17Speaker 1: rapping about it, if you talking like that. And it
- 14:19Speaker 1: was like, man, the amount of DMs I got from women,
- 14:21Speaker 1: that was like....
- 14:23Speaker 5: Them eyes.
- 14:25Speaker 2: More Kimi.
- 14:28Speaker 5: Was there ever a period where you thought that was
- 14:31Speaker 5: going to be the biggest moment of your career?
- 14:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I fought against it for a long time, and
- 14:37Speaker 1: as an artist, you want people to like what you
- 14:40Speaker 1: like or what you're putting out at the time. And
- 14:42Speaker 1: I fought against it because I was like, this is
- 14:44Speaker 1: not who I am or not the totality of who
- 14:47Speaker 1: I am as an artist. And so it was hard
- 14:49Speaker 1: to break out of that shit, and I fought against it, man.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Part of that shit sunk me into a depression. Really? Yeah,
- 14:53Speaker 1: I was depressed because it was like people wanted something
- 14:56Speaker 1: from me that I... There's other shit to talk about.
- 15:02Speaker 1: There's other subjects to touch on. And so when somebody
- 15:03Speaker 1: come in here and be like, just do this, Jess.
- 15:06Speaker 1: And you be like, well, you know, I also do boom, boom, boom, boom.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Or I'm talented in this aspect. And they be like, no,
- 15:10Speaker 1: do this. Or we kind of like wiping the flow
- 15:13Speaker 1: with you. Like, we done with you. Like, we washing
- 15:15Speaker 1: our hands. And so it was kind of like, damn,
- 15:17Speaker 1: you know, I can't make the music I want because
- 15:19Speaker 1: I'm kind of like rabbit pigeonholed into like what I
- 15:22Speaker 1: done started. And it was like, man, how the fuck
- 15:25Speaker 1: do I wiggle myself out of this?
- 15:26Speaker 4: How did you?
- 15:27Speaker 1: How? Man, I'm going to tell you a story. I
- 15:30Speaker 1: went and ate some sushi one day at this Chinese spot.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Fucking got stomach pains really bad and started throwing up.
- 15:40Speaker 1: And I don't know if I, like, threw up and
- 15:42Speaker 1: hurled so hard that I, like, ruptured some tissue or
- 15:44Speaker 1: something in there, but it was hurting really bad. And
- 15:46Speaker 1: I went to the fucking doctor.
- 15:47Speaker 2: True story.
- 15:47Speaker 1: I went to the doctor and got x-rays done. And
- 15:51Speaker 1: they came back there and said, boy, you got that
- 15:53Speaker 1: dog in you.
- 15:56Speaker 2: You got it.
- 15:58Speaker 1: You ate dog in the sushi spot? Yeah. And they said,
- 16:00Speaker 1: you got that dog in you.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Boy, you stupid.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
- 16:03Speaker 2: You hear him? Boy, stupid. You hear what I'm saying?
- 16:04Speaker 1: I'm going to tell y'all right now, don't listen to
- 16:06Speaker 1: this young man. And that's how I got out of it.
- 16:07Speaker 2: I can't. That's how I got out of it.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Yeah, I wiggled my way up out
- 16:11Speaker 1: of that shit. And, like, I was in a depressive
- 16:13Speaker 1: funk for, like, three, four months straight.
- 16:16Speaker 6: See, this is why I'm saying comedy for this man.
- 16:19Speaker 1: I mean, because all.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Those are true stories.
- 16:21Speaker 1: Like, what? That was a true story. They didn't say
- 16:23Speaker 1: I had the dog part. No, that wasn't true. They
- 16:26Speaker 1: didn't say the dog part. They didn't say the dog part.
- 16:29Speaker 1: But I actually do. He in there. Let him out
- 16:32Speaker 1: on your ass. You keep talking to him. Well, hold on.
- 16:34Speaker 1: I was answering my damn questioning.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I just kind of worked myself out of it.
- 16:39Speaker 1: I got into a slump. I got into a slump
- 16:43Speaker 1: where I was depressed for like three, four months. And
- 16:45Speaker 1: I didn't go to the studio. At the time, my
- 16:48Speaker 1: friends weren't calling me. You know what I'm saying? I
- 16:49Speaker 1: had nobody to check on me. And it was kind
- 16:51Speaker 1: of my fault for not communicating with my people about
- 16:53Speaker 1: how I was feeling. Yeah. So like knowing that now,
- 16:57Speaker 1: I know better to like call people and like let
- 16:59Speaker 1: them know like, bro, I don't feel good or something
- 17:01Speaker 1: going on or like this shit is hard on me
- 17:03Speaker 1: right now or it's rough. Or I tell the people
- 17:04Speaker 1: closest to me so they know how to deal with
- 17:06Speaker 1: me and they know to check in or call. So
- 17:08Speaker 1: I'm not pointing a finger and saying, y'all don't check
- 17:10Speaker 1: on me. Y'all don't fuck with me. Where was y'all
- 17:11Speaker 1: at when I was? And I don't want to pull
- 17:13Speaker 1: that type of shit with nobody. You know what I'm saying?
- 17:14Speaker 1: Because it looks bad when it's like, nigga, you could
- 17:17Speaker 1: have just spoke up or said something. I agree. Like,
- 17:19Speaker 1: advocate it for yourself. Like, I just don't feel good.
- 17:21Speaker 1: And we get in the mindset of, I got it.
- 17:22Speaker 1: I'm going to handle it. Sometimes I don't feel like it, shit.
- 17:25Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I don't feel like it
- 17:26Speaker 1: every fucking day, but it has to happen. I woken
- 17:29Speaker 1: myself out of that and kept making the music, kept
- 17:30Speaker 1: doing the content, and I started force feeding what I
- 17:32Speaker 1: wanted people to see. And it got me here.
- 17:35Speaker 5: The hardest thing for black men to do is to
- 17:36Speaker 5: tell people exactly how it is we feel.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:40Speaker 2: And then we get upset when people don't read our minds.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Black people.
- 17:45Speaker 2: Black people, yeah.
- 17:45Speaker 1: It ain't just men. Because I deal with some women
- 17:47Speaker 1: who be like, you should have just known. I'm like. bitch,
- 17:50Speaker 1: you think I'm Charles Xavier? Like, I'm just sitting there like,
- 17:53Speaker 1: I don't know what you're thinking.
- 17:54Speaker 3: Yo, you can't call that man Kimmy like that. Leave
- 17:58Speaker 3: him alone. You can't leave.
- 17:59Speaker 2: But everybody that knows your music told me.
- 18:01Speaker 1: You're not everybody, man. No. I am a boy. What's
- 18:07Speaker 1: wrong with you, brother?
- 18:08Speaker 2: They always say.
- 18:10Speaker 1: I thought you said you was a black Christian man.
- 18:12Speaker 1: You going to church? This the other part. I didn't
- 18:16Speaker 1: ever say I was black Christian. This the lighter part
- 18:17Speaker 1: of the umbrae speaking.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Okay.
- 18:19Speaker 1: Why did everybody call you?
- 18:20Speaker 2: Why did they call you?
- 18:21Speaker 1: Why did they call you that?
- 18:22Speaker 4: I still want to know.
- 18:22Speaker 2: And he's Jehovah's Witness.
- 18:24Speaker 1: You a Jehovah's Witness?
- 18:24Speaker 2: I think you grew up Jehovah's Witness. They grew up
- 18:26Speaker 2: Jehovah's Witness.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Damn.
- 18:28Speaker 2: What? Everybody said Jehovah's Witness.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Offend them witnesses. Go ahead.
- 18:33Speaker 1: I can't say shit bad about a Jehovah's Witness. I'm like...
- 18:36Speaker 1: I mean.
- 18:36Speaker 2: He was thinking about it between.
- 18:38Speaker 4: No, I.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Just said, damn.
- 18:39Speaker 3: They knocked on your door before, right?
- 18:42Speaker 1: Yeah, they knocked on our door before. But it was
- 18:43Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I couldn't have told you, like,
- 18:45Speaker 1: the only thing we knew not to, like, say that
- 18:47Speaker 1: nobody was there, we knew not to even, like, answer
- 18:49Speaker 1: the door. And so, like, we used to do shit, like,
- 18:52Speaker 1: if they knocked, they could see us looking out the window,
- 18:54Speaker 1: but we just see them seeing us see them.
- 18:56Speaker 2: And so it was just like, That's better than saying
- 18:59Speaker 2: nobody home.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Is anybody home? No, but that was the thing. That
- 19:03Speaker 1: was the thing. So we see them and they like, hey.
- 19:06Speaker 1: And then we just like, we not here. That's disrespectful.
- 19:09Speaker 3: We used to do that, nobody home.
- 19:10Speaker 1: But that means our parents ain't home. Yeah, our parents
- 19:13Speaker 1: ain't home.
- 19:13Speaker 3: Nobody home.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Not yet. We just finna eat. Come back tomorrow.
- 19:19Speaker 4: Talk to us about the texture tape three, right?
- 19:22Speaker 2: Hold on, before we get there, I want to go
- 19:24Speaker 2: to Mesh.
- 19:25Speaker 5: Because Mesh, when that dropped, a lot of people were
- 19:27Speaker 5: saying how socially conscious you were. Yeah. And so what
- 19:30Speaker 5: did those years between being Kimi and Mesh.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Why you say it like that? He just want to
- 19:35Speaker 1: say Kimi. That's all it is.
- 19:36Speaker 4: He's very kinky, like you said.
- 19:37Speaker 5: What did it teach you about the difference between getting
- 19:39Speaker 5: attention and actually building a career?
- 19:43Speaker 2: Well, so.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Hmm. And this age that we're in is not about
- 19:48Speaker 1: if people like it, if it's right or wrong, if
- 19:49Speaker 1: it's like, you know, whatever, whatever. It's about whether it
- 19:52Speaker 1: gets attention or not. That's all it is. Like, if
- 19:55Speaker 1: it's too far-fetched, as long as it gets attention, yes.
- 19:58Speaker 1: If it's not what people think it is, like, so
- 20:00Speaker 1: if you be like, damn, this was fucked up, or
- 20:02Speaker 1: such and such said such and such, and if something
- 20:04Speaker 1: was wrong, you still go look.
- 20:05Speaker 2: I know, man. It's a view.
- 20:06Speaker 1: It's a click. Like, it's a like. It's a reshare.
- 20:09Speaker 1: And even if you don't like some of this shit,
- 20:10Speaker 1: you be like, damn, that was fucked up. He shouldn't
- 20:11Speaker 1: have said that to such and such on the breakfast club.
- 20:14Speaker 1: You still share it to somebody to show them how
- 20:15Speaker 1: fucked up it was. Right? And so guess what I did?
- 20:18Speaker 1: I just trapped you, because if your algorithm sees you
- 20:20Speaker 1: liking it or sharing it, or even staying on it
- 20:22Speaker 1: long enough, he says, oh, they must like it. And
- 20:24Speaker 1: so I may not cycle it in every day, but
- 20:26Speaker 1: next week I'll show them another post from such and such,
- 20:28Speaker 1: such and such. And so my goal is to control
- 20:31Speaker 1: your algorithm. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man, get
- 20:33Speaker 1: off that phone. Pay attention. You asked the question down, man.
- 20:34Speaker 2: I'm listening to you. You said your job is to
- 20:35Speaker 2: control the algorithm.
- 20:36Speaker 1: All right, for sure. What did I say before that?
- 20:38Speaker 3: You don't remember.
- 20:38Speaker 1: I heard everything. Nah, I read recently that you recently
- 20:42Speaker 1: met you.
- 20:43Speaker 2: No, that's actually a producer texting about you, though.
- 20:46Speaker 1: What'd they say? Is it a woman?
- 20:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Tell her to come in here, man.
- 20:49Speaker 2: She said she wants you to take your hat off.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Take my hat off?
- 20:51Speaker 2: I don't know why.
- 20:52Speaker 1: I got a full head of hair, baby.
- 20:53Speaker 6: Hold on.
- 20:53Speaker 1: Don't try to pull no funny style shit on me.
- 20:55Speaker 6: We already know because we, you know, maybe she ain't
- 20:57Speaker 6: seen your IG.
- 20:57Speaker 4: But I know you had a full head.
- 20:59Speaker 2: That headline, crispy, crispy.
- 21:00Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
- 21:01Speaker 1: She think I'm handsome and want to know if I'm gay.
- 21:03Speaker 3: You know what? I rest assured that you just met
- 21:06Speaker 3: your dad this year.
- 21:08Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, the guy that I think is my dad.
- 21:11Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
- 21:12Speaker 2: It's because you look like Shador, bro.
- 21:13Speaker 1: People tell me that all the time. He definitely looks
- 21:15Speaker 1: like Shador, guys. If Dion's my daddy, that'd be... Nigga,
- 21:17Speaker 1: if you my daddy, come forth. I've been waiting. Damn,
- 21:21Speaker 1: this shit been hard. I need some of that nipple money, man. Damn.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Just put me on the field. I ain't got a watch.
- 21:27Speaker 1: I can just... Right next to my brother now. He's
- 21:30Speaker 1: been doing it for a long time. We in this motherfucker.
- 21:34Speaker 1: But no, I just met my dad July 2nd, man.
- 21:37Speaker 1: For the first time... Yeah, that was kind of crazy.
- 21:41Speaker 1: What was the situation like? Somebody got in contact with
- 21:44Speaker 1: me on Facebook and was like, hey, is your mama such, such, such, such?
- 21:47Speaker 1: Because I think such, such, such, such is your daddy.
- 21:49Speaker 1: And I had already known that because my mama had
- 21:51Speaker 1: kind of told me. I just had never met him.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Craziest shit ever. One time I was in the fifth
- 21:56Speaker 1: grade and one of the teachers, her husband, came by
- 21:59Speaker 1: to visit. And we walking past because we were going
- 22:01Speaker 1: to recess. And all the kids were like, hey, Mr.
- 22:03Speaker 5: Winston.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Hey, Mr.
- 22:04Speaker 4: Winston.
- 22:04Speaker 1: And I walked by and said it, too. And the
- 22:07Speaker 1: whole time that was my daddy and he walked right
- 22:09Speaker 1: past me and we never knew it. Wow. And so like,
- 22:13Speaker 1: and I asked him, I was like, man, did you
- 22:14Speaker 1: have a wife who used to teach and she worked
- 22:16Speaker 1: at a school? He was like, yeah, I did. And
- 22:17Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I spoke to you and walked
- 22:19Speaker 1: right by you. You didn't know me. You never knew
- 22:21Speaker 1: I was your son. It was like the proximity. You
- 22:23Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? And the craziest shit, him and
- 22:25Speaker 1: my mama was in cahoots the whole 30-something years. No. Yes.
- 22:29Speaker 4: So did he just not know that he had a
- 22:31Speaker 4: kid with this woman?
- 22:32Speaker 1: He knew. Because how do you talk to somebody for
- 22:34Speaker 1: 30 years or 30-something years and not know? It was
- 22:37Speaker 1: just a believing. It was complicated. No, so my mama
- 22:41Speaker 1: did crack. For 37 years. My mama smoked crack cocaine
- 22:46Speaker 1: for 37 fucking years. And so, like, she smoked it
- 22:49Speaker 1: when she was pregnant with me. You know what I'm saying?
- 22:50Speaker 1: And he told me, like, you know, your mama was fine.
- 22:54Speaker 1: And he was a pimp. He was a fucking pimp,
- 22:57Speaker 1: which is crazy. But he was like, you know, your
- 23:00Speaker 1: mama was fine. And I decided, like, I want to
- 23:01Speaker 1: deal with your mama and, like, you know what I'm saying,
- 23:03Speaker 1: be with her. And so, you know, she just couldn't
- 23:07Speaker 1: leave drugs alone. And so it was like he got
- 23:10Speaker 1: her pregnant. And he was transparent about all of the
- 23:13Speaker 1: shit that he was doing in X, Y, and Z,
- 23:14Speaker 1: you know. And he was like, he got my mama pregnant.
- 23:16Speaker 1: And he didn't even know at the time that she
- 23:19Speaker 1: was pregnant because he sold crack too. And he was
- 23:21Speaker 1: sometimes just like, you know, give it to her or like,
- 23:24Speaker 1: you know.
- 23:25Speaker 2: She didn't have no money when she was short.
- 23:27Speaker 1: So the thing is, if you don't get it from here,
- 23:28Speaker 1: you're going to get it from somewhere. And I'd rather
- 23:30Speaker 1: you get it from here and I know what you're
- 23:31Speaker 1: doing instead of like roaming and running the streets. And
- 23:33Speaker 1: she was like still, you know what I'm saying, smoking
- 23:35Speaker 1: and shit like that. Once she found out she was pregnant,
- 23:37Speaker 1: he was like, I wouldn't give it to her. I
- 23:39Speaker 1: stopped giving it to her. You know what I'm saying?
- 23:41Speaker 1: And for a fiend or anybody who's on drugs or
- 23:43Speaker 1: an addict, you going to go find it. You know
- 23:45Speaker 1: what I'm saying? That's my mentality. Ain't no such thing
- 23:48Speaker 1: as no, like, and not, as a slight to my mama,
- 23:51Speaker 1: but I keep that mentality when I'm thinking about work.
- 23:53Speaker 1: A crackhead don't take no for an answer. It's not
- 23:56Speaker 1: you don't have a rock. If I ain't got the money,
- 23:58Speaker 1: I'm going to go get you the money. If anything,
- 24:00Speaker 1: a crackhead is in debt, but they ain't never without.
- 24:02Speaker 1: It's never a lack of, you know what I'm saying?
- 24:04Speaker 2: You got to feed that disease.
- 24:05Speaker 4: A lack of crack.
- 24:07Speaker 1: It is a disease. Yeah. But, yeah, I met my daddy, man,
- 24:10Speaker 1: and I've sat and talked to him. You know, he'll
- 24:11Speaker 1: call and shit like that and chop it up with me.
- 24:14Speaker 1: I don't even like to make it awkward because you
- 24:15Speaker 1: know how, like, when you weren't raised with people? Mm-hmm.
- 24:17Speaker 1: I'm not dying to be your friend or get to
- 24:20Speaker 1: know you like I'm who I'm going to be now.
- 24:22Speaker 1: But it's like, if it's genuine and casual, you know
- 24:24Speaker 1: what I'm saying? He'll check in or we'll talk or,
- 24:26Speaker 1: you know, he called and talked to me one day
- 24:27Speaker 1: and had me on the phone fucking rolling like for
- 24:30Speaker 1: like an hour or something.
- 24:31Speaker 4: You realize you, do you see yourself in him?
- 24:35Speaker 1: Oh man. He said some slick shit. He said some
- 24:37Speaker 1: shit on the phone. Fuck me up. He was just
- 24:38Speaker 1: saying a lot of shit. And I was like, I
- 24:40Speaker 1: get it. I was like, I do get it. You
- 24:42Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
- 24:42Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 24:43Speaker 1: And so, like, yeah.
- 24:43Speaker 4: You said he was a pimp, and then you camey-casting over.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was like, he was like, when he
- 24:50Speaker 1: first started pimping, he had, like, four deaf women.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Deaf? Deaf.
- 24:54Speaker 1: And I was just like, well, yeah, I had four
- 24:55Speaker 1: deaf bitches when I first started pimping. And I was like,
- 24:57Speaker 1: how does that work? He was like, I was like,
- 24:59Speaker 1: how would you sit in their mouth? He was like, well,
- 25:01Speaker 1: they stayed in the house. And like, these are my
- 25:02Speaker 1: inside hoes. And he was like, I had outside hoes.
- 25:06Speaker 1: He was like, you know what I'm saying? But the
- 25:07Speaker 1: thing about deaf women and their community, if you know
- 25:10Speaker 1: anything about it, he was like, they don't give a
- 25:12Speaker 1: fuck if you talk to another deaf woman. He said,
- 25:14Speaker 1: but if you talk to somebody that can talk, they'll
- 25:16Speaker 1: leave you alone and he said he got caught fucking
- 25:18Speaker 1: with a motherfucker who can talk and they all cut
- 25:19Speaker 1: him off and I was like damn and no pun
- 25:24Speaker 1: intended but that was a sign.
- 25:25Speaker 6: That was a sign my god yeah.
- 25:30Speaker 2: How did that impact you as a father because I
- 25:32Speaker 2: know you got a family.
- 25:33Speaker 1: Yeah I don't think it just affected me no type
- 25:37Speaker 1: of way for real for real um It made me
- 25:40Speaker 1: more conscious about how I was going to show up
- 25:42Speaker 1: for my kids and like how I was going to
- 25:43Speaker 1: be present and active. And that's the main thing. It's
- 25:46Speaker 1: like when you're younger, you didn't care if your parents
- 25:49Speaker 1: were rich, poor, X, Y, Z. Spend quality time because
- 25:52Speaker 1: that's what you remember when you're a kid. My daddy
- 25:53Speaker 1: was always my daddy took me to do X, Y,
- 25:55Speaker 1: Z and credit to my mama. Like my mama wasn't
- 25:57Speaker 1: hardly around when I was younger. But when my mama
- 25:59Speaker 1: came around, she took us down the street to McDonald's
- 26:01Speaker 1: and let us play in a playpen. If she had
- 26:03Speaker 1: a few dollars, she would buy us a burger. And, like,
- 26:05Speaker 1: we can get some candy from the store and get
- 26:06Speaker 1: some now and later. And we was happy with that.
- 26:08Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And so I was just like, man,
- 26:10Speaker 1: you know, she wasn't there all the time. But when
- 26:12Speaker 1: she was, I'm like, man, we told that fucking play
- 26:14Speaker 1: peeing up. We was musty. How was the relationship with you?
- 26:19Speaker 1: Me and my mama talked. Like, I wasn't raised by
- 26:21Speaker 1: my mama. And so I never had, like, a, I'm
- 26:24Speaker 1: not like a mama, mama, mama, mama. And so it
- 26:26Speaker 1: was like me and my mama talked like homeboys. And so, like.
- 26:29Speaker 1: I don't even cuss in front of grown-ups or older grown-ups.
- 26:32Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So if I met your mama,
- 26:33Speaker 1: I don't cuss in front of you. We cuss, but
- 26:35Speaker 1: when you get in front of my mama, man, watch
- 26:37Speaker 1: your mouth.
- 26:37Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 26:38Speaker 1: But I can talk to my mama like a homeboy
- 26:40Speaker 1: because of how crazy she is, and she can tell
- 26:42Speaker 1: me some crazy stories too, like.
- 26:43Speaker 3: Some wild shit. And you was in the Army too, right?
- 26:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:45Speaker 3: How long were you in the Army for?
- 26:46Speaker 1: Eight years in the Army Reserve.
- 26:48Speaker 2: Shout out to 894, man.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, that was my unit.
- 26:51Speaker 5: Has fatherhood made betting on yourself harder? Because when you're single, right,
- 26:54Speaker 5: failure just belongs to you. But once you got people
- 26:57Speaker 5: depending on you.
- 26:58Speaker 2: No.
- 26:59Speaker 1: It's made it easier. It's made it a lot easier.
- 27:02Speaker 1: I learned that once I became a father, and it
- 27:05Speaker 1: taught me a lot about how God operates too. And
- 27:07Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time because if you
- 27:09Speaker 1: got kids, you get to watch your kids from a
- 27:11Speaker 1: different view. And I explain if I'm going to have
- 27:17Speaker 1: a child with somebody, nothing that I'm doing is going
- 27:21Speaker 1: to slow down or stop. You know what I'm saying?
- 27:24Speaker 1: A lot of times women operate off feeling and emotion.
- 27:26Speaker 1: I'm operating off facts and results. You feel like you
- 27:29Speaker 1: need this emotionally, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yes, I want
- 27:31Speaker 1: to give that to you in a romantic space if
- 27:33Speaker 1: I'm capable of doing that. But I've realized, and I've
- 27:37Speaker 1: even realized, women sometimes don't even want a headstrong, you
- 27:40Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, go out, get the money, provider,
- 27:43Speaker 1: do X, Y, Z type of nigga. They just want
- 27:45Speaker 1: a nigga who's going to sit up and be in
- 27:46Speaker 1: their feelings with them.
- 27:47Speaker 2: Who the fuck, bitch?
- 27:48Speaker 1: I ain't saying it. I ain't saying it. I'm just
- 27:51Speaker 1: telling you the type. I'm just telling you how some
- 27:53Speaker 1: of this shit working for me. It's like, man, it's
- 27:57Speaker 1: certain women that were in my life, if I was
- 27:58Speaker 1: still with them, I wouldn't be where I am now.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Because they don't understand some of the sacrifices I got
- 28:02Speaker 1: to make. They don't understand some of the stuff I
- 28:04Speaker 1: got to do. And like, you know what I'm saying?
- 28:06Speaker 1: Shout out to the mother of my daughter, man. It
- 28:08Speaker 1: ain't been easy, but she kind of like compensates as
- 28:12Speaker 1: much as she can with like, my schedule because I'm
- 28:15Speaker 1: gone all the time. As soon as I get back home,
- 28:17Speaker 1: people are like, what you doing? Nigga, I'm with my daughter.
- 28:18Speaker 1: I'm chilling. I don't want to be outside with y'all
- 28:20Speaker 1: niggas all the time. I'm like, you know what I'm saying,
- 28:22Speaker 1: trying to spend time with my little one.
- 28:24Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 28:25Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 28:26Speaker 4: That's amazing.
- 28:28Speaker 1: But yeah, what was I about to say? Yeah, just
- 28:31Speaker 1: choosing to not slow down and press those buttons because
- 28:34Speaker 1: I grew up, my child won't know what POE is.
- 28:36Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 28:37Speaker 1: She won't experience none of that. And she'll experience love.
- 28:39Speaker 1: I tell my baby I love her three, four, five
- 28:41Speaker 1: thousand times a day.
- 28:42Speaker 2: Give me sugar.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Give me kiss.
- 28:44Speaker 2: Love you. Love you. Love you. Love you.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Give me a hug. Best friend. Twin. What you doing?
- 28:48Speaker 1: And like we just all day fucking long. You know
- 28:50Speaker 1: what I'm saying? And that's like the bond in a relationship.
- 28:53Speaker 1: And it's just like making sure she knows she's loved.
- 28:55Speaker 1: Care for her.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Three.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Going on 30.
- 28:58Speaker 2: I want to ask you something.
- 28:59Speaker 5: How did you react when you found out your mother
- 29:02Speaker 5: was smoking crack while she had you?
- 29:05Speaker 1: It was interesting because she told me a story, man.
- 29:08Speaker 1: And I'm going to write a book about this shit.
- 29:10Speaker 1: And I'm actually writing an album about it.
- 29:12Speaker 2: What's the title?
- 29:13Speaker 1: I ain't got the title yet. But the project is
- 29:15Speaker 1: going to be nine songs long. And every song is
- 29:18Speaker 1: a month that I was in the womb. The first
- 29:19Speaker 1: song is like Inception. And I shoot out the sack.
- 29:23Speaker 1: And that's the first month. Up until month nine. And
- 29:25Speaker 1: it's about the things that I felt while I was
- 29:28Speaker 1: in the womb. And so whatever the mother feels, if
- 29:30Speaker 1: she's distressed, if she's depressed or she's agitated, I feel that. Also,
- 29:36Speaker 1: I'm addicted to drugs. I'm also a crack addict. whatever
- 29:40Speaker 1: she's doing i'm addicted to those drugs you know i'm
- 29:43Speaker 1: saying and so i'm noticing and sensing stuff in her
- 29:46Speaker 1: i hear conversations inside the womb that i'm able to
- 29:49Speaker 1: like translate and like you know i hear stuff going
- 29:51Speaker 1: on i don't know who people are though you remember
- 29:53Speaker 1: being in the womb so you know that's the actual
- 29:55Speaker 1: thing what some people do Yeah, I've heard of that.
- 29:57Speaker 1: That's the actual thing that some people do.
- 29:59Speaker 4: I've heard of that.
- 30:00Speaker 1: But no, I have to talk to my mama and
- 30:02Speaker 1: be really specific with her and about certain shit that
- 30:04Speaker 1: happened and my dad about what happened and what was
- 30:07Speaker 1: happening at that time. And so I did write a
- 30:09Speaker 1: song or a couple of songs about it. And so
- 30:11Speaker 1: it's about me just talking about all of that stuff
- 30:13Speaker 1: and how she grew up. She didn't have a mother.
- 30:15Speaker 1: She didn't have a father. You know what I'm saying?
- 30:16Speaker 1: She was getting raped at the age of 14. um
- 30:19Speaker 1: and stuff like that and mom you're gonna see this
- 30:21Speaker 1: and get on my ass but it's like a story
- 30:23Speaker 1: that just needs to be told um you know i'm
- 30:26Speaker 1: saying for people who can't relate to it and people
- 30:28Speaker 1: who see you know i'm saying me today and it's
- 30:29Speaker 1: like damn we you don't look like all of this
- 30:31Speaker 1: and she was telling me i was riding with my
- 30:33Speaker 1: mom in my car and i was like you know
- 30:35Speaker 1: i had to ask her because none of my siblings
- 30:36Speaker 1: care to ask and it's kind of like a touchy
- 30:38Speaker 1: touchy subject and we didn't all grow up together me
- 30:40Speaker 1: and my sister are the closest two of my siblings
- 30:42Speaker 1: you know i'm saying and so i was like mom
- 30:45Speaker 1: when did you start smoking drugs? How did you get
- 30:47Speaker 1: on it? Boom, boom, boom, X, Y, Z. And she
- 30:49Speaker 1: started smoking crack when she was like 17. Wow. You
- 30:51Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? And just was never able to
- 30:55Speaker 1: kick it. And she was like, when she had me,
- 30:57Speaker 1: she was like, I remember when you came out, you
- 30:59Speaker 1: was hollering so bad because you was having withdrawals and
- 31:01Speaker 1: you was shaking and, you know, it was an X, Y, Z.
- 31:03Speaker 1: And she was like, you would not shut up. And
- 31:04Speaker 1: then the doctors had to give you morphine. And then
- 31:06Speaker 1: you like calm down and like, and I'm listening to it.
- 31:08Speaker 1: And I'm like, anybody just like you like, damn, that's sad.
- 31:11Speaker 1: But for me, I'm just like, Hmm. You know, interesting.
- 31:14Speaker 1: Because I don't feel like what that sounds like. Or
- 31:17Speaker 1: I'm not what that sounds like. You know what I'm saying?
- 31:19Speaker 3: Did you ever get in drugs?
- 31:20Speaker 1: No. I am the drug. Motherfuckers take me when they
- 31:24Speaker 1: want what they want.
- 31:26Speaker 2: And how did your mother... That Kimi. That Kimi in
- 31:30Speaker 2: them streets.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Point hug. Kimi pack. Contact that morning, nigga.
- 31:37Speaker 2: My God.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Damn, man. Drink some of this peach milk and calm down.
- 31:40Speaker 1: How did your mother finally kick it, though? How did
- 31:42Speaker 1: she finally kick it?
- 31:43Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 31:44Speaker 1: I talked to her about that. Just mentally staying away
- 31:48Speaker 1: from certain stuff. You know what I'm saying? Just not
- 31:53Speaker 1: being around certain people. And she just started wanting better
- 31:55Speaker 1: for herself. My mama looks fucking amazing to have done
- 31:58Speaker 1: that shit for that long. And I tell people, my
- 32:00Speaker 1: mama got all her teeth. Like, you know what I'm saying?
- 32:03Speaker 5: For real?
- 32:04Speaker 1: Fuck yes. My mama ain't never had dentures. She ain't
- 32:07Speaker 1: skinny and fucked off or nothing like that. My mama
- 32:10Speaker 1: look good. You know what I'm saying?
- 32:12Speaker 3: And you gave your mom for all that?
- 32:13Speaker 1: I never had any type of anything towards my mama.
- 32:17Speaker 1: When I was little, I didn't understand certain shit. When
- 32:19Speaker 1: I was little, I remember I used to tell me,
- 32:20Speaker 1: my daddy did. I hate my daddy. And then it's
- 32:22Speaker 1: like when I get older, I'm like, no. I don't
- 32:24Speaker 1: use the word hate. I don't hate people. I just dislike.
- 32:27Speaker 1: I don't like something that the person did. I don't
- 32:28Speaker 1: like that character trait or that quality that they have. But, no,
- 32:31Speaker 1: I ain't never hated my mama. I ain't never resented her.
- 32:33Speaker 1: I never disrespected my mama. I never, I'm like this
- 32:35Speaker 1: because you smoke crack. Or I was in foster care
- 32:38Speaker 1: or in the system or moved from group home to
- 32:39Speaker 1: group home because of this, this, that, and that. Or
- 32:41Speaker 1: I was just instability. I never blamed her because when
- 32:44Speaker 1: I talked to my mama, she grew up the same way.
- 32:46Speaker 1: Her mama gave her away. You know what I'm saying?
- 32:48Speaker 1: And so it's like she didn't have the guidance. She
- 32:50Speaker 1: didn't know how to. teach, show, and do X, Y, Z.
- 32:52Speaker 2: You understand our trauma.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Yeah. In my older age now, my daddy was like,
- 32:56Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have his parents because his parents
- 32:58Speaker 1: died at a young age. So he just kind of
- 32:59Speaker 1: reverted to like doing what he knew to do. He's
- 33:00Speaker 1: so dope. Like, you know what I'm saying? I got
- 33:02Speaker 1: to make something happen, make something shake in one way
- 33:05Speaker 1: or another. So it's like, I don't blame these people.
- 33:07Speaker 1: You know, I understand it differently now. You know what
- 33:09Speaker 1: I'm saying?
- 33:09Speaker 6: And at some point, you do realize that your parents
- 33:12Speaker 6: We're just people trying to figure it out.
- 33:15Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 33:15Speaker 1: We're all, we're all fucking kids. We're grown up responsibilities.
- 33:19Speaker 2: That's right.
- 33:19Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? We always revert back to
- 33:21Speaker 1: our inner child. That's why we do some of the
- 33:22Speaker 1: same shit we used to do as kids. We like,
- 33:24Speaker 1: that's our safe space. The kid space is our safe space.
- 33:26Speaker 1: And now we just like, it's ruined sometimes. And we're
- 33:29Speaker 1: not able to like show that or give that or like,
- 33:32Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Live in that space comfortably
- 33:34Speaker 1: without being judged or without being ridiculed or just like,
- 33:36Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Have nice, pure, genuine fun.
- 33:39Speaker 1: You know, you just, you weird. Now, Because you can't
- 33:42Speaker 1: be who you want to be. And it takes fucking
- 33:44Speaker 1: years to learn how to be yourself.
- 33:45Speaker 2: You know what's interesting?
- 33:46Speaker 5: I don't know how old you are, but when I
- 33:48Speaker 5: talk to you, I can sense the wholeness, right? And
- 33:51Speaker 5: I think that wholeness comes from having conversations with your
- 33:54Speaker 5: parents and knowing who your parents were before they were
- 33:58Speaker 5: your parents and putting their trauma in the context. It
- 34:00Speaker 5: helps you to understand You in the whole totality of
- 34:04Speaker 5: your cycle.
- 34:05Speaker 1: Literally. Talking to them to figure out who the fuck
- 34:07Speaker 1: I am. Yeah. And, like, it was hard because, like,
- 34:09Speaker 1: when you got people who don't know how to do that,
- 34:11Speaker 1: don't know how to communicate, and they, like, I remember
- 34:13Speaker 1: talking to my mom one day and she started shutting down.
- 34:15Speaker 1: And I was finna get mad at her because I'm like,
- 34:18Speaker 1: you can't shut down on me, like, after you've not
- 34:21Speaker 1: been here or not, after you've done X, Y, and Z.
- 34:22Speaker 1: You're like, I'm the one that should be shutting down.
- 34:24Speaker 1: And I had to stop and take a step back and, like,
- 34:26Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? I had to put some
- 34:27Speaker 1: manipulation on her now. I had to. Can you please
- 34:31Speaker 1: just do this one thing for me? If nothing else, remember, withdrawals, morphine,
- 34:38Speaker 1: it was me. I'm like, I'm guilt-shaming and all that
- 34:42Speaker 1: type of shit. Talk to me.
- 34:44Speaker 4: Let me in.
- 34:46Speaker 1: No, but, no, I had to talk to her though.
- 34:49Speaker 1: And I talked to my mama and she, you know,
- 34:51Speaker 1: when people don't know how to communicate, they start shutting
- 34:53Speaker 1: down on you. And I remember I was literally sitting
- 34:56Speaker 1: in the car getting frustrated with my mama. And I
- 34:58Speaker 1: had told her, like, and I can talk about this
- 35:00Speaker 1: and I'll be real about my shit. I was like, mom,
- 35:03Speaker 1: If you don't do this to me, you ain't got
- 35:04Speaker 1: to worry about me no more. And it was me
- 35:06Speaker 1: trying to manipulate, but I wasn't going to cut off.
- 35:08Speaker 1: And then she was just like, well, you know, whatever, whatever.
- 35:11Speaker 1: And I was just like, she's like.
- 35:12Speaker 4: Yeah, because she love you.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm Kimmy.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Right.
- 35:17Speaker 4: And she probably never knew how to communicate.
- 35:20Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. With you as well. But I softened that. And,
- 35:22Speaker 1: you know, we talked and she learned how to like
- 35:24Speaker 1: open it up. Man, I remember like my mom had,
- 35:27Speaker 1: I bought my mom a Celsius one day. Man, she
- 35:29Speaker 1: told on every motherfucking thing. You know what I'm saying?
- 35:32Speaker 1: Energy drink. Yeah, I bought her a Celsius because she
- 35:33Speaker 1: liked to drink beer. I was like, mom, how about
- 35:34Speaker 1: you try a Celsius? I gave her a Celsius. I
- 35:37Speaker 1: remember the one time I had it. You know what
- 35:39Speaker 1: I'm saying? And if I'm jostling it right, if I'm
- 35:41Speaker 1: remembering it correctly, she was just telling me shit I
- 35:43Speaker 1: ain't even need to know.
- 35:44Speaker 4: But she was probably happy. That was probably a release.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Yeah, and so when we talked, it was just like,
- 35:49Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? I sat down with my
- 35:50Speaker 1: mom and had an interview with her. And I asked
- 35:53Speaker 1: my mom, I was like, what's some of the best
- 35:54Speaker 1: stuff that ever happened to you in your life? She
- 35:55Speaker 1: was like, I don't ever feel like nothing good happened
- 35:57Speaker 1: to me. And I don't feel like I've ever done
- 35:59Speaker 1: anything good. Everything I've done has always been bad. And
- 36:02Speaker 1: I said, uh, you know, and I could tell, without
- 36:06Speaker 1: her having to tell me, and she kind of told me,
- 36:08Speaker 1: my mom had never had nobody tell her, I love you, genuinely,
- 36:12Speaker 1: without anything attached to it. Especially not a family member,
- 36:15Speaker 1: a mom, a dad, you know, maybe a significant other
- 36:18Speaker 1: if y'all fucking, they trying to, you know, wham bam
- 36:20Speaker 1: on you, you know what I'm saying? But, and I
- 36:22Speaker 1: had to tell her like, hey, I love you, and
- 36:23Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for even taking a step to like,
- 36:26Speaker 1: want to communicate this with me, you know what I'm saying?
- 36:28Speaker 1: Or put this out, or like, let me know this information,
- 36:30Speaker 1: because that shit is hard. Like, you'd be shamed about it,
- 36:32Speaker 1: because like, everybody else ain't did crack or everybody else
- 36:36Speaker 1: ain't had these type of situations going on. So you
- 36:38Speaker 1: hide that stuff because you don't want people judging you
- 36:40Speaker 1: or like thinking these things about you. And I was
- 36:42Speaker 1: just like, man, you know, it's okay. And it's not
- 36:45Speaker 1: your fault. I love you.
- 36:46Speaker 2: You're beautiful.
- 36:47Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? You're taking the right steps.
- 36:49Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I care for you. And
- 36:51Speaker 1: like the way that she almost just like, yeah. Yo
- 36:57Speaker 1: She ain't do that She almost did it That was
- 36:59Speaker 1: like Am I lying bro?
- 37:00Speaker 4: No not like that Not.
- 37:02Speaker 1: Like that He was there Okay Yeah This my dog
- 37:05Speaker 1: This my dog Yeah we got it We not about
- 37:07Speaker 1: to see His mother do the She didn't do that
- 37:10Speaker 1: She didn't do that She didn't do that She didn't
- 37:12Speaker 1: do that Okay So what is Dion I was serious
- 37:16Speaker 1: What is.
- 37:18Speaker 4: What is your relationship With Money Long?
- 37:20Speaker 1: What is my relationship With Money Long? Oh we are
- 37:22Speaker 1: Great friends She's a Sweetheart Angel a wealth of fucking knowledge,
- 37:29Speaker 1: a nurturer, very, very kind. You couldn't pay me to
- 37:34Speaker 1: say nothing bad about her. Nice.
- 37:37Speaker 6: Some people were speculating if y'all had a relationship or not.
- 37:40Speaker 1: That's why I say you always leave room for shit
- 37:43Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it's just kind of like, you know,
- 37:47Speaker 1: we can be friends. And so the reason why people
- 37:50Speaker 1: are speculating, and I'll clear it up because, like, She
- 37:53Speaker 1: was shooting Roll Out for her album and wanted me
- 37:54Speaker 1: to be in her video as a love interest. You
- 37:57Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? I've had people in my videos
- 37:58Speaker 1: as love interests. But every time you do that, they be.
- 38:00Speaker 2: Like, that's his girl. Yeah.
- 38:01Speaker 1: They go together.
- 38:01Speaker 2: They fucking.
- 38:02Speaker 4: You see how it is.
- 38:03Speaker 1: And so it was just like, if y'all going to
- 38:05Speaker 1: think it, we'll let y'all run with it. Go ahead
- 38:08Speaker 1: and run with it.
- 38:08Speaker 2: Y'all walked the red carpet together too, though.
- 38:10Speaker 3: Didn't y'all?
- 38:11Speaker 2: That carpet was white. Whatever the color was, y'all walked
- 38:14Speaker 2: it together.
- 38:15Speaker 1: Yeah. But she invited me. She invited me to BET
- 38:18Speaker 1: with her.
- 38:18Speaker 5: Well, I just want you to know, I just Googled
- 38:20Speaker 5: Akeem Ali, Money Long, and it says, Money Long and
- 38:22Speaker 5: rapper Akeem Ali are romantically linked and collaborating on music.
- 38:26Speaker 2: So I don't know.
- 38:27Speaker 1: It turned you on, didn't it?
- 38:28Speaker 2: Freakhead. Akeem.
- 38:28Speaker 1: It turned him freakhead. I just Googled it. It says.
- 38:33Speaker 2: Is the couple named Money Akeem or Akeem Money or
- 38:36Speaker 2: Akeem Long? What the hell?
- 38:37Speaker 1: What the hell?
- 38:38Speaker 5: Hey, y'all need to come Freakmaster 3000 down, man.
- 38:40Speaker 1: What's up with this man?
- 38:41Speaker 2: The texture.
- 38:42Speaker 1: What is it with fabrics? The texture tape.
- 38:43Speaker 5: Oh.
- 38:43Speaker 1: I guess you call that fabrics.
- 38:45Speaker 2: Raybon, acrylic.
- 39:01Speaker 1: Fabrics. Rayon.
- 39:02Speaker 2: Rayon.
- 39:03Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fandex. Shout out to Rayon. Yeah, so
- 39:08Speaker 1: I wanted to create a project. Firstly, I was creating
- 39:13Speaker 1: this project, and then it was going to be named Suede.
- 39:14Speaker 1: But what happened was, you know, some of the songs
- 39:16Speaker 1: didn't work out. So I kept Suede, and I was like,
- 39:18Speaker 1: what else can I add to this? And so I
- 39:20Speaker 1: wanted to show how beautiful we were as black people
- 39:22Speaker 1: from every shade, light skin and bright skin and dark
- 39:25Speaker 1: brown you know what I'm saying well no dark brown
- 39:29Speaker 1: me and you not you nigga nigga two three different
- 39:32Speaker 1: colors he don't know what he is Neapolitan over here
- 39:37Speaker 1: damn okay bucket of kids ice cream but I wanted
- 39:42Speaker 1: to show how beautiful we were as people and so
- 39:44Speaker 1: it was gonna be a swatch like cream polyester and
- 39:47Speaker 1: so cream is like you know we like eggshell white
- 39:51Speaker 1: and so like cinnamon but like leather suede but brown
- 39:56Speaker 1: like muslin but khaki and so I created this texture
- 39:59Speaker 1: tape and when I did it it like got good
- 40:01Speaker 1: reception and I was like okay I'll do another one
- 40:04Speaker 1: and so it was like nylon you know what I'm
- 40:07Speaker 1: saying you know what else do I have? Shit.
- 40:10Speaker 6: I didn't realize it was that many damn materials.
- 40:13Speaker 1: That you wear on a day to day. Like I
- 40:17Speaker 1: was just telling somebody else about shit that you don't
- 40:19Speaker 1: think about. Like rubber, plastic, pony hair, latex. Yeah.
- 40:24Speaker 2: Uh, That's one of the songs for real, man.
- 40:29Speaker 1: Why is that?
- 40:30Speaker 2: Stop it. Knock it off now. That's one of his songs.
- 40:32Speaker 3: You a kinky.
- 40:32Speaker 1: You're so kinky, you're stinky, man. This nigga is funky
- 40:37Speaker 1: over here.
- 40:40Speaker 2: Jesus.
- 40:40Speaker 1: Jesus. But yeah, I wanted to do that, man. I
- 40:43Speaker 1: just kept it rolling. I just kept it rolling and
- 40:45Speaker 1: it was just something to expand on. And also it's
- 40:47Speaker 1: great to have like a theme that people want to
- 40:48Speaker 1: subscribe to. And so like, and it's also teachable too.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Like it's teaching you like, damn, I didn't know that
- 40:53Speaker 1: this was a thing and I wear this or like
- 40:55Speaker 1: I rock this all the time, but I didn't know
- 40:56Speaker 1: like this was called that. And so it's, it's showing
- 40:59Speaker 1: people like, and also I wanted the songs to sound
- 41:01Speaker 1: like what the texture felt like. And that was my
- 41:03Speaker 1: main aim for the texture tape three. Like I had
- 41:05Speaker 1: to dig deep into it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Um,
- 41:09Speaker 1: and like, I don't know. Every song you listen to
- 41:12Speaker 1: needs to feel like that texture or sound like that,
- 41:14Speaker 1: and it needs to kind of engulf you and be like, damn,
- 41:16Speaker 1: this is what Silk sounds like.
- 41:18Speaker 6: Yes, because even Sneak Skin. Why Sneak Skin instead of
- 41:23Speaker 6: Sneak Skin, unless they spelled it wrong.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Sneak Skin.
- 41:25Speaker 3: No, I know.
- 41:26Speaker 6: I know sneak skin is a texture, but they spelled
- 41:29Speaker 6: it wrong on here.
- 41:30Speaker 1: They must have spelled it wrong.
- 41:31Speaker 4: They put sneak skin.
- 41:32Speaker 1: That girl that wanted me to take my hat off?
- 41:33Speaker 1: That's probably who did it.
- 41:34Speaker 2: That is.
- 41:35Speaker 1: That's who wrote it down. Sneak skin. That's who wrote
- 41:37Speaker 1: it down? Uh-huh.
- 41:38Speaker 2: Okay.
- 41:38Speaker 1: Now, I got hair. Do you got a degree? Wow. Wow.
- 41:41Speaker 1: I don't know who she is. I don't know who
- 41:43Speaker 1: she is. She do. She do have a degree, but
- 41:45Speaker 1: I don't know why she messed this up.
- 41:46Speaker 2: But anyway.
- 41:47Speaker 3: I don't do that because she on the spectrum.
- 41:49Speaker 2: But listen- You just insulted a whole community, Akeem.
- 41:52Speaker 3: Just insulted a whole community. That's so foul.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Akeem, no shit.
- 41:54Speaker 1: Dude, she got a degree. No, you insulted a whole community.
- 41:57Speaker 1: How the hell was I supposed to know she was
- 41:59Speaker 1: on a... Man, you insulted me. You insulted me. And
- 42:02Speaker 1: I'm going.
- 42:03Speaker 3: To tell you why I feel offended.
- 42:06Speaker 1: I'm also on the spectrum.
- 42:06Speaker 3: There you go.
- 42:08Speaker 5: I want to say one more thing about the Texted 3.
- 42:10Speaker 5: Texted 3? Your sound, it's like a... Like a retro style,
- 42:16Speaker 5: electro pop funk. If I had to compare it to
- 42:19Speaker 5: a song, it would be like Snoop's Sensual Seduction.
- 42:22Speaker 1: I like that.
- 42:23Speaker 2: That's how the album sounds to me.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Me and Snoop talk about that, yeah.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
- 42:26Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk about that all the time. But yeah,
- 42:28Speaker 1: it's meant to take you back to a certain time.
- 42:30Speaker 1: And it's meant to feel retro, but right now... with
- 42:33Speaker 1: like the lyrics and like how I'm putting some of
- 42:35Speaker 1: this stuff together and how I'm formulating it. And even
- 42:38Speaker 1: with like Mesh, Mesh sounds like vintage, like Atlanta or 2001, 2003, like,
- 42:43Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? And so, and also Mesh,
- 42:48Speaker 1: like you wear the tall Mesh, Mitchell & Ness jersey,
- 42:50Speaker 1: like it needs to feel like what it sounds like
- 42:52Speaker 1: and like all of that shit needs to come together. Wool.
- 42:55Speaker 1: If you listen to Wool, it's talking about in the
- 42:57Speaker 1: thick of it.
- 42:58Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
- 43:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:02Speaker 4: Assless chaps and all that.
- 43:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:04Speaker 2: You said I offended you?
- 43:06Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
- 43:06Speaker 2: When?
- 43:08Speaker 1: Talking to me.
- 43:09Speaker 2: You just making up shit, man. I came out, I
- 43:11Speaker 2: came out.
- 43:12Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got one more thing.
- 43:13Speaker 1: I got one more thing, man. What you got?
- 43:15Speaker 2: What you got?
- 43:15Speaker 1: Y'all in such a hurry. Y'all behind and shit and
- 43:18Speaker 1: cursing me about this motherfucker. Hey, man, so while I
- 43:20Speaker 1: got my platform, I want to give a shout out
- 43:21Speaker 1: to some Jackson artists that, you know, sometimes people don't do.
- 43:25Speaker 2: We get overlooked.
- 43:25Speaker 1: So, you know. I want to shout out to some
- 43:28Speaker 1: of these artists. Antusay, Franchise, Hollywood Look, J.Sky, King Keem,
- 43:33Speaker 1: Tricky Hudson, Dollar Black, D.Horton, Tucci V, Gnarly J, Fat Dizzle,
- 43:36Speaker 1: Malik Cash, Casting Boy Dre, Jules, Area J, Kiera Archie,
- 43:40Speaker 1: Lake Forest D, Air Slim, Hershey Black, Flawless, Vitamin C, B.
- 43:43Speaker 1: King to Go, Kenny Pahina, Navia, Dev Mac, Kamikaze, Mojo Kids,
- 43:47Speaker 1: Cool Jazz, Coke Bumaye, Dear Silas, Trilluminati, Nico, Polo Baby,
- 43:52Speaker 1: King Heem, Lil C, Doe Hicks, Dirty Costello, Slim Pusher,
- 43:55Speaker 1: The Joker, Kool KM, RBA Scoob, Jody Boy, Ray Kincaid,
- 43:58Speaker 1: Don't Know Vegas, DJ Finesse, DJ Don Juan, my DJ,
- 44:02Speaker 1: DJ T. Lewis, DJ Reese, DJ PM, DJ Pretty Ricky,
- 44:05Speaker 1: DJ Scrap Dirty, DJ Twigga, Fly Walker as a producer, Markel,
- 44:10Speaker 1: Rashad Street, C. Gutter, one way to producer. Let me
- 44:12Speaker 1: get you a shout out to some platforms too and
- 44:13Speaker 1: some people. Rita Brent, my dog Cousin Tim, Jonathan over
- 44:16Speaker 1: at Tap 10 Reviews, Bars to Blow, Square World, Crystal
- 44:20Speaker 1: Sterling and C-Money TV, Fox Cave Chronicles, 601 and Park,
- 44:23Speaker 1: Michaela Phillips, Big Mooch, Portia C, Alexis Noble. Also, shout
- 44:26Speaker 1: out to Cool Will, Phil Minotti, Antonio Knott, DJ the Photographer,
- 44:29Speaker 1: Jameese Wiley. J.J. the trainer, J.C. in fitness, Chuck Fit
- 44:32Speaker 1: the motivator, G. Hemp, he do fitness. Brittany Matthews at
- 44:35Speaker 1: the Brittany Company. Shout out to Dave Banner. Shout out
- 44:37Speaker 1: to my dog, Aunt Nicole. Love you, too. Jess, Dean,
- 44:41Speaker 1: shout out to y'all. All my close friends, you know
- 44:43Speaker 1: what I'm saying? I probably named y'all already. You know,
- 44:45Speaker 1: they're going to take that all out.
- 44:47Speaker 2: Jackson, Mississippi.
- 44:48Speaker 1: Go to Johnny T's and eat when you in Jackson.
- 44:50Speaker 1: Go to M Bar. Go to Fourth Lounge. Go to
- 44:52Speaker 1: Names and Faces. Mama Hammer. Go to Boston's. Go down
- 44:56Speaker 1: Main Street. Get some coaching. You know what I'm saying?
- 44:58Speaker 1: Go downtown. X, Y, Z. You know, do y'all thing, man.
- 45:02Speaker 5: Vincent Jackson.
- 45:05Speaker 1: I'm going on tour. I'm going on tour. Let me
- 45:07Speaker 1: do say this last thing, okay?
- 45:08Speaker 2: 40 cities.
- 45:09Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going on tour. And it's been a struggle
- 45:12Speaker 1: trying to sell this tour out. But we're going to roll.
- 45:16Speaker 1: All right? And I want y'all to know, bless you,
- 45:18Speaker 1: bless you, I want to hold y'all accountable for the
- 45:20Speaker 1: cities that be asking me to come to these cities
- 45:22Speaker 1: and y'all ain't bought fucking tickets. I'm going to put
- 45:24Speaker 1: y'all on blast and tell y'all who y'all is. My
- 45:26Speaker 1: booking agent going to kill me for this, Josh. I
- 45:27Speaker 1: love you, brother. I love y'all. I'm going to tell
- 45:31Speaker 1: the truth because everybody be trying to hide it and
- 45:32Speaker 1: they don't want you to know this type of shit.
- 45:34Speaker 1: It look good. Okay, so I'm going to tell y'all
- 45:36Speaker 1: the cities that ain't doing good. Ain't no city sold
- 45:38Speaker 1: out yet but Jackson and Atlanta. So I love y'all.
- 45:41Speaker 1: The two cities I named, Orlando, you need your ass beat.
- 45:45Speaker 1: all right the uh the venue capacity is 816 only
- 45:47Speaker 1: 135 tickets are sold damn uh-huh yeah let's talk about
- 45:51Speaker 1: it uh who is this san diego you need a
- 45:54Speaker 1: belt on your ass 705 tickets need to be sold
- 45:57Speaker 1: only 91 tickets are sold okay you feel me brother
- 46:00Speaker 1: uh yeah yeah yeah let's talk about it uh portland
- 46:03Speaker 1: uh 550 tickets need to be sold only 79 are
- 46:06Speaker 1: sold when is the show man this is in october Oh, yeah.
- 46:10Speaker 1: The time is near. The time is upon us. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 46:13Speaker 1: And y'all be telling me to come to these cities,
- 46:14Speaker 1: and I do this based off how y'all say y'all
- 46:16Speaker 1: love me, how y'all care about me, and y'all want
- 46:18Speaker 1: to see me. Y'all always skip. They skip us. Nobody come.
- 46:20Speaker 1: And when I come, this is what happens, right?
- 46:23Speaker 2: I'm trying a backyard show like LaRusso.
- 46:26Speaker 1: I don't have a backyard, brother. Oh, shit.
- 46:28Speaker 2: Damn.
- 46:29Speaker 1: Keep going. I'm on your back.
- 46:31Speaker 2: New York.
- 46:32Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. 1,100 tickets need to be sold.
- 46:35Speaker 1: I've only sold 151 tickets. New York City. Who is this?
- 46:40Speaker 1: Little Rock. Y'all, you come to Little Rock. We ball
- 46:42Speaker 1: with you. 1,300 tickets need to be sold. Only 85
- 46:44Speaker 1: tickets have sold. Huntsville. Only 133 tickets sold.
- 46:46Speaker 4: Who is that?
- 46:46Speaker 1: San Francisco. Bay Area. 850 tickets need to be sold,
- 46:55Speaker 1: only 216 tickets are sold. That's close. I've been promoting
- 46:59Speaker 1: this fucking tour for five and a half months strong.
- 47:02Speaker 3: How can people get tickets right now?
- 47:03Speaker 1: The link is in my bio on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook.
- 47:06Speaker 1: You can go on Apple Music and type my name
- 47:07Speaker 1: in and they got all of the tour dates there.
- 47:09Speaker 1: If you go on Spotify, you can pull them out
- 47:11Speaker 1: your ass and just buy a ticket. I'm just something. Kimi.
- 47:15Speaker 2: Kimi.
- 47:17Speaker 1: I'm going to run about this motherfucker.
- 47:19Speaker 3: What's the name of the Jackson artist that I think
- 47:21Speaker 3: he also owns a lounge or a club in Jackson?
- 47:24Speaker 1: Oh, Boo Rossini.
- 47:26Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a record that's hard. I heard it
- 47:27Speaker 3: when I was out there on Jack's Radio.
- 47:28Speaker 2: He gets busy.
- 47:29Speaker 1: Yeah, and shout out to everybody. If you... Just scroll
- 47:32Speaker 1: down that list and pick one of those artists. You're
- 47:34Speaker 1: going to find somebody that you like, somebody that you
- 47:36Speaker 1: can relate to, X, Y, Z. And I want to
- 47:38Speaker 1: say one more thing before I got out of here.
- 47:40Speaker 1: You said that three times ago, but go ahead, keep going. Yeah, no,
- 47:42Speaker 1: I am the greatest rapper alive, so I'm going to
- 47:43Speaker 1: keep it cute and don't ever stray on it.
- 47:45Speaker 3: Kimmy!
- 47:46Speaker 1: Damn, nigga. You about as horny as he is, ain't he?
- 47:48Speaker 2: I don't know why he got so horny this night.
- 47:50Speaker 1: This is it, this is it. I'm going to keep
- 47:52Speaker 1: it cute and don't ever stray on it. Eye flash
- 47:53Speaker 1: and spray all of this shit like a bidet on him.
- 47:55Speaker 1: If you ain't got the whole amount, then pay on it.
- 47:57Speaker 1: Stand on the business. But if you ever disrespect me,
- 47:59Speaker 1: then you're going to lay on it. My top is
- 48:01Speaker 1: a broken ankle. Don't play on it. You take the
- 48:02Speaker 1: risk and hope it hit like prize picks when you
- 48:04Speaker 1: put a parlay on it so I can show you
- 48:06Speaker 1: that I hurt shit like constipation pains. They go for
- 48:08Speaker 1: boy and girl like a unisex baby name. I ain't
- 48:10Speaker 1: here to poly with no nigga. Me and two bitches
- 48:12Speaker 1: go together and they ain't never been poly with no nigga.
- 48:14Speaker 1: But I'm a different nigga. I get more perks than
- 48:16Speaker 1: a prescription. I'm so hot, I hate to get nosebleeds
- 48:18Speaker 1: like some cheap tickets. I'm cool until I'm not, then
- 48:21Speaker 1: it can be wicked. I'm gifting ass whoopings. If they
- 48:24Speaker 1: don't like it, I take it back and re-gift it. Ficky, ficky,
- 48:26Speaker 1: play that back and remix it. My foot and your
- 48:28Speaker 1: ass are friends and I look forward to the day
- 48:29Speaker 1: that we kick it. A sharpshooter, y'all. I can hit
- 48:31Speaker 1: the target a mile away. Canaan nigga beat me. I'm
- 48:33Speaker 1: a jet two holiday. The flow is buff. This bitch
- 48:36Speaker 1: a pair of Cartiers and I'm a Trill Savage like
- 48:38Speaker 1: DJ Envy.
- 48:38Speaker 2: Hold up.
- 48:39Speaker 1: Charlamagne. Fuck you niggas on. You smoking crack. You can
- 48:42Speaker 1: fuck your mama. Then have a dick skull in your sis.
- 48:44Speaker 1: Like a broken back. I'm whisking this shit up, nigga.
- 48:46Speaker 1: Coke and Jack. And coming out on top forever. Like
- 48:48Speaker 1: Kim Newton here with the open hat. The best to
- 48:50Speaker 1: ever do it. They know I'm that. Y'all see a
- 48:51Speaker 1: bunch of rappers. But me, I see food. Like some
- 48:53Speaker 1: loaded Mac. I'm carrying this shit to my shoulder crack.
- 48:56Speaker 1: It's a trust fall. Because I could have niggas on
- 48:58Speaker 1: the floor. But I've been holding back. That's ironic. And
- 49:00Speaker 1: even when I'm standing still, I run it. I conquered
- 49:02Speaker 1: all my cons. And this type of shit going to
- 49:03Speaker 1: be iconic. So tell me why the fuck would I
- 49:05Speaker 1: be shy on it when I got them waving their
- 49:06Speaker 1: hands like you do your food when there's a fly
- 49:08Speaker 1: on it. I'm rolling. Shout out to Jackson. Jackson's fire.
- 49:12Speaker 1: Akeem Ali, ladies and gentlemen.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Akeem Ali, ladies and gentlemen.
- 49:15Speaker 3: Akeem Ali.
- 49:16Speaker 1: Make sure y'all go out there. Make sure y'all support
- 49:18Speaker 1: his tour. Hit the link in the bio. I ain't
- 49:10Speaker 1: gonna say what I know I'm gonna say cause I
- 49:12Speaker 1: was like man y'all.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Follow me on all social media platforms.
- 49:14Speaker 1: A-K-E-E-M underscore underscore Ali, or A-K-E-E-M underscore Ali, A-L-I. Get
- 49:37Speaker 1: tickets to see me on tour. Support independent artists. I
- 49:39Speaker 1: do not have a label deal. I'm doing all of
- 49:41Speaker 1: this off my fucking back, okay? I'm spending all my money.
- 49:43Speaker 1: It cost me $ 3, 000- something to come out here. All right?
- 49:46Speaker 1: You think I got $ 3, 000- something? I got to pay for
- 49:48Speaker 1: a whole tour that y'all ain't buying tickets to? Fuck
- 49:51Speaker 1: with me. Don't fuck without me. And if you don't,
- 49:52Speaker 1: you don't give a fuck about me. You understand me?
- 49:55Speaker 1: We rolling. Kimi!
- 49:56Speaker 2: Kimi!
- 49:57Speaker 1: Kimi! Kimi!
- 49:58Speaker 2: I'm going to see you in the street and say that.
- 50:00Speaker 4: Kimi! Kimi!
- 50:01Speaker 1: Watch what I do.
- 50:05Speaker 3: Kimi Lee is the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
- 50:07Speaker 1: Hold up. Every day I wake up.
- 50:10Speaker 2: Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Y'all finished or
- 50:13Speaker 2: y'all done?