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Biggest takeaways heading into the bye week | Jaguars Happy Hour | Monday, November 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, November four. This is Jack Bars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now
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  Speaker 1: that Cadillac of Sports Broadcasting, Jay Peace, Chad think so
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  Speaker 1: and welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got a busy two hours ahead of course,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli and Frete Prisco coming up. The Chiefs over
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars in week ten seventeen, the final scored Arrowhead.
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  Speaker 1: We've got plenty of fanatics, fan questions going into the
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  Speaker 1: bye week. We'll go around the National Football League as always.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear from Doug Peterson after the loss yesterday. Missed
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  Speaker 1: opportunities for the Jaguars all day long. When you play
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  Speaker 1: great football teams, and and the Chiefs are one of
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  Speaker 1: those great football teams, well coached, you you've got to capitalize,
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  Speaker 1: you know, um. I know they pride themselves on taking
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  Speaker 1: care of the football, you know um. And when you
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  Speaker 1: can create those opportunities as a team, we have got
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  Speaker 1: to take advantage of that, and we didn't do it
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  Speaker 1: as a football team today. And so that's really the message,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And and it's about missed opportunities Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: in the game twenty forty passing tone through the year
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns. But some issues for this team yesterday. They
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  Speaker 1: did some stuff defensively, where offensively we didn't play our
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  Speaker 1: best ball, didn't execute well. Um, you know, we kind
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  Speaker 1: of started getting a little bit of a rhythm at
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  Speaker 1: the end of that first half going into the second half.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, too many missed opportunities too early, and
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  Speaker 1: we still had our chance at the end of the game,
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  Speaker 1: and and and didn't make the place to to get
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  Speaker 1: back in it there. But you know, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: overcome when you when you missed that many opportunities early
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  Speaker 1: in the game, and um, you know against it's a
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  Speaker 1: good team. So just a little bit, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: too many of those. And then to the defense, Andre
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  Speaker 1: Cisco had an interception, but the Chiefs handled their business otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: Make them work for it. So limit explosives. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we did enough of that. We have some big
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  Speaker 1: plays early on the game or some downs stretch as well,
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't part of the game plan. So limit explosives
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  Speaker 1: that them. You know, obviously, throw the ball, but keep
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  Speaker 1: it short. You have it the full locker room sound
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  Speaker 1: and press conferences, including Douck Peterson earlier today. Available on
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars Social media Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: That's where we're streaming right now as well. Uh, Pete
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  Speaker 1: Priscoe is with us down in South Florida. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli is in the building. He is in person
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  Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville. I can't even believe what I'm seeing
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  Speaker 1: in front of my eyes. This is incredible. I missed
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  Speaker 1: two weeks. I was on the road two weeks. More
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  Speaker 1: than that, I don't think. So, Yeah, we haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: we haven't seen you in a while. We didn't see me, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: You see you see me just like you do every week,
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  Speaker 1: you idiot. But we haven't seen you in the studio
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  Speaker 1: in a while. Pete, you have never been in the studio,
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  Speaker 1: so you never seen you never seen it in the studio,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, five years probably. Yeah, So JP can
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  Speaker 1: say I haven't seen you in the studio for a while.
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  Speaker 1: You need to shut your trap because you can say nothing. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: somebody's a little salty sensitive today. Okay, but but he
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  Speaker 1: is here for the full show, which is a novel
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  Speaker 1: idea that Okay, last week I missed the first segment
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  Speaker 1: because I was driving from Atlanta the New Orleans. Shoot me, well,
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  Speaker 1: how are we feeling after yesterday seventeen three and seven record?
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  Speaker 1: Bye week? Is here? Refreshed? Get ready for the stretch run?
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  Speaker 1: I guess the way I mean for me, it was
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  Speaker 1: everything went to Jaguars Way yesterday and they still lost
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  Speaker 1: by ten. Yes, that's like the biggest take, like as
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  Speaker 1: I left there, and I agree with Doug like they
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  Speaker 1: missed opportunities. There's no doubt about that, and that would
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  Speaker 1: have been a wildly different game. I think if they
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  Speaker 1: took advantage of those opportunities, especially early in that game,
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  Speaker 1: the onside kick you had to drop past would have
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  Speaker 1: been deep into the UM red zone. Maybe you get seven,
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  Speaker 1: get up seven, Nothing that changes the feel of everything. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you got three turnovers. You know you couldn't convert any
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  Speaker 1: real points out of that UM So that I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so everything going your way? You still lost by ten,
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  Speaker 1: and I got like in the game and afterwards and
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  Speaker 1: watching the tape, I feel more like that Chief's offense
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  Speaker 1: could have done anything they wanted to whenever they wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: Like there was guys running wide open and a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of bus. That look like you got some young guys
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  Speaker 1: struggling right now on that defense. Um, and so like
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  Speaker 1: name names, well, Devin Lloyd, I mean there's no terrible
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  Speaker 1: he's playing terrible. Yeah, I mean, but that he's been
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  Speaker 1: doing that for a while, a few weeks. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's why you see Muma get Muma, get Movema, get
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  Speaker 1: more and more reps, play better than he did yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Is playing better right now. I have more confidence in
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  Speaker 1: MoMA on the field than Devon Lloyd. I have. I
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  Speaker 1: have a theory on Devon Lloyd. Well let's before you
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  Speaker 1: get let's not just dive into that. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: we will eventually. I'll just tell you I'm gonna put
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  Speaker 1: that out there, something that I think I would do
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  Speaker 1: with him, and and we'll talk about that. I like
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  Speaker 1: that the and so that's like the concerning thing. Like defensively,
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  Speaker 1: like just the missed like wide open guys, you just
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  Speaker 1: can't do that. I mean they rushed for one fifty
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  Speaker 1: I think against they did. Uh that you know the
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  Speaker 1: defense that's troublesome. We still get no pressure, no pass rush,
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  Speaker 1: no zero zero era um. And then offensively, you know
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  Speaker 1: that's a good front. They got their top five defense
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  Speaker 1: against the run and they shut us down. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they did a good job against the run game, they
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  Speaker 1: really did, and we never got to going. And that's
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  Speaker 1: really what this team thrives on. Um. So it's disappointing
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  Speaker 1: your three and seven after being two and one with
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  Speaker 1: two really nice wins against the Chargers, who aren't quite
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  Speaker 1: as good as we thought they were gonna be, but
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  Speaker 1: still a great win on the West Coast, this team
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  Speaker 1: has not done that. So hats off two dug in
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  Speaker 1: the in the guys um and they shut out the Colts,
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  Speaker 1: which was great. Now cold testam issues offensively we've learned
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  Speaker 1: since then too, but doesn't matter. You got it done
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  Speaker 1: and that was big. But since then you're one in
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  Speaker 1: six in games and and I think I think at
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  Speaker 1: the end of it, when we get to the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season, you're gonna look back at that this
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  Speaker 1: stretch right here and be like, that's where this fell
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  Speaker 1: apart a little bit. This where we missed opportunities, where
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  Speaker 1: it leads forget about Kansas City, because I don't I
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  Speaker 1: mean that Kansas is better. They're a better football team
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  Speaker 1: than we are right now. Um, now you can you know,
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  Speaker 1: so the good news is you were competing with them
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  Speaker 1: throughout the game. It was never as it never got
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  Speaker 1: really really close, but at least you were you know,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't get blown out, you didn't get embarrassed. He fought,
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  Speaker 1: he kept on playing. But you now look at the
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  Speaker 1: stretch run and you got some tough games coming up.
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  Speaker 1: You have Baltimore, very good football team. You get Tennessee twice,
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  Speaker 1: we know the history of that. You got the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: who are gonna be fighting for their lives for a
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  Speaker 1: UM playoff spot. UM. You have the Jets, who are
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  Speaker 1: one of the better defenses in the NFL. So, and
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  Speaker 1: then you got Detroit, Houston and Detroit score points against everybody.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they've done this year. Now they're not they're
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  Speaker 1: awful on defense, so that might be that will help us.
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  Speaker 1: And then so I mean, I think, but I really
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  Speaker 1: do think at the end of this year, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: look back in this stretch that we just went through
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  Speaker 1: and boy, we missed opportunities. This could have been a
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  Speaker 1: much different season. Because one thing I know that is
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  Speaker 1: for sure is when you start with when you win
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  Speaker 1: close games of stack up and it does something to
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  Speaker 1: your locker room. It does something to your belief system
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  Speaker 1: and everything else, and and they missed those opportunities. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and and watching the tape, I'm with you all the way.
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  Speaker 1: On the defense, Tony, there were I mean, there were
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  Speaker 1: guys open like you wouldn't believe. And and for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: they were almost out of a little they were out
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  Speaker 1: of sink a little bit. Kansas City. Um. But okay,
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  Speaker 1: the touchdown to Tony, that had to be Lloyd right
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  Speaker 1: on that, Tony. So here's Doug Peterson's hard no. Doug
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  Speaker 1: Peterson explained this today. The headsets went out for two
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  Speaker 1: straight plays. One of those was that play, and they
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  Speaker 1: got multiple calls in using hand signals, and there was
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  Speaker 1: a miscommunication because of the headsets being out for too
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  Speaker 1: straight plays of all, two of all times to have
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  Speaker 1: it in the red zone it there. That's fair, unfortunate,
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  Speaker 1: and so on the one to Kelsey, why don't you
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  Speaker 1: call time out there? Then? If that's the case, it
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  Speaker 1: feels confusion. Good question, that's a good question. Why wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: you call it time out? I mean, like he I mean,
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  Speaker 1: right there at that point in the game, every possession
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  Speaker 1: matters against that Chiefs team, Why would you call time out?
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  Speaker 1: It's in the first half. You know, burning a time
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  Speaker 1: out right there is not the end of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Um now you you know, you could argue maybe you
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  Speaker 1: don't score that late touchdown because you needed your time
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  Speaker 1: outs then, But still I'm surprised. I wonder if that
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  Speaker 1: was a conversation on the sideline saying, hey, if there's
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  Speaker 1: confusion out there, because you could tell. I thought the
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  Speaker 1: defense was like Devin Lloyd struggles to get lined up.
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  Speaker 1: You can see it on the field and you can
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  Speaker 1: see a Luca on having to tell him where to go.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's Chris. I mean, Bete you saw the tape, yeah, you,
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  Speaker 1: no one else too. I noticed Tony he's kind of
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  Speaker 1: jumping their blocks and stuff. He's turning his back, he's
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  Speaker 1: not being physical, and it's almost like he doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to take on guys. Did you notice that a couple
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  Speaker 1: of times yesterday? Yes, I noticed that. I noticed he
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  Speaker 1: turned it down, turned it down. Very sloppy zone drops.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like the one Kelsey, the one Kelsey
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  Speaker 1: little long passed the Kelsey crossing. He's got to get
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  Speaker 1: depth and get over there. He just stays there where
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  Speaker 1: he's at. He was almost like you go watch the
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  Speaker 1: go watch the tape, Pete. Loukhan points to him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then on the touchdown to Kelsey either he I
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  Speaker 1: think it was on him too, if you look at it.
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  Speaker 1: He kind of gets frozen, goes inside with eighty four
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  Speaker 1: and you can see lu Khan's in there and he's
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  Speaker 1: pointing at him. That's when you're talking about that one.
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  Speaker 1: That one and in the deep over too, both of them,
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  Speaker 1: just like this one right here. I think, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not again, I gotta be careful. Next one. I
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  Speaker 1: think he has number two. I think he's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: press the number two, which is which is Kelsey? Correct?
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  Speaker 1: You can see the way you can see the way
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  Speaker 1: the Lucan is playing it. He's got that guy and
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  Speaker 1: he goes with him. He should have him. This is
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  Speaker 1: the one thing I know. Alucan and Lloyd aren't supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be in the same spot. No, the right on
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  Speaker 1: top of each other. And then and then on the
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  Speaker 1: deep the deep over, on the deep over, you can
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  Speaker 1: see him watch he points right at him and they
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  Speaker 1: were all look at each other. And then on the
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  Speaker 1: deep over he's got to get depth he's got and
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  Speaker 1: he pointed at him. But he's got to get depth.
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  Speaker 1: He kind of you know, gets caught looking to the
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  Speaker 1: left and he doesn't get depth on that. And but
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  Speaker 1: that those those are mistakes that young linebackers can make
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  Speaker 1: at times. I'm more concerned. There's a couple of times
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  Speaker 1: he turned his body on a contact and tried to
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  Speaker 1: go underneath the block and and didn't take him on.
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  Speaker 1: And when you jumped inside the hole, he left a
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  Speaker 1: huge hole for the running lane on the outside. There
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  Speaker 1: were there's concerns about him. He's not the same player,
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  Speaker 1: which and I got my theory is actually really good
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  Speaker 1: on him. This is what I would I would think
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  Speaker 1: about playing Muma and using him as a sub pass rusher.
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  Speaker 1: A sub pass rusher. Does he know a pass rush? Tony?
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  Speaker 1: Did you see him when he chased al Mahomes on
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  Speaker 1: the one play? Okay, that's great. Just because you're fast,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it mean he was a rusher and he rushed
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  Speaker 1: the passer at Utah? He did it? You use them.
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  Speaker 1: He's how big is he? What's what's his height and weight?
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  Speaker 1: His official height and weight for Devin Lloyd three to five. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you five. Not gonna like scare a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of tackles. Unless what's Michael Parsons unless and he's
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  Speaker 1: a pass rusher, that's all he's ever done. What's Michael
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  Speaker 1: Parsons way to fifty? Probably my guess. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He's stick. I don't think any ways. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he ways to fifty. But but the point is he's
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  Speaker 1: not right now, he's not ready to play out of
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  Speaker 1: the position. Mom Momo will at least take on the
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  Speaker 1: blocks and he makes MoMA actually made some really good
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  Speaker 1: plays in the run game on on Sunday. I thought
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  Speaker 1: Tony came up and he filled, took on the guard,
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  Speaker 1: made a play, a couple of plays in the run game.
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  Speaker 1: He was better. He was six quarter week Wikipedia. Let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you. That's if I need a resource. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just telling you what it says there. Um by the way,
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  Speaker 1: NFL dot com Ard and Key by the way. So
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  Speaker 1: he's bigger, Uh, Parsons is bigger than Lloyd. No, but again,
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  Speaker 1: you can use him in some subsituations where you can
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  Speaker 1: rush the quarterback. I just right now, he's not taking
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  Speaker 1: on blocks, he's not being physical, he's jumping around blocks.
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  Speaker 1: He's leaving gaps in the defense and he's bad on coverage.
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  Speaker 1: Other than that, he's been a good pick. Yeah, Impete,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not against trying him and as a pass rusher,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not saying you're wrong there. Um, who are
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  Speaker 1: you taking off the field right now? You could argue,
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  Speaker 1: take anyone you want because no one else gets pressure?
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  Speaker 1: Does matter? Smooth steaks? What does it matter? I mean
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  Speaker 1: they're not they're winning, might as well try something they're not. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And that was, by the way, that was a bad
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  Speaker 1: tackle to start the game and a backup off the
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  Speaker 1: street that was playing at right tackle to end the game. Mike,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Pete, don't even get me started. Logs and
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  Speaker 1: I talked about this every week, and then when you
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  Speaker 1: played the Broncos, you had the third team left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: backup right tackle in the backup center, and so like,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me started on that. Um. The Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I would be shocked if Mumo is not starting for
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  Speaker 1: against Baltimore because if you think Devil Lloyd is struggle
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  Speaker 1: me right now, roll him out there against Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 1: that zone ree Oh my gosh. Yeah, No, I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a spinning top he Come on, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be too critical of the guy.
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  Speaker 1: I like him. I'm wishing the best. He's young. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying anything outside of the just he might not
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  Speaker 1: be ready right now. He missed off camp, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe it's he wrapped. Aside from the mental, aside
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  Speaker 1: from the metal and the medals there, the physical is
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  Speaker 1: more worrisome to me. I don't know what's happened to him,
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  Speaker 1: because early in the season he was more physical. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't physical at all on Sunday. Nothing zero. It's been
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks p I think, yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it was really noticeable on Sunday though. That the fact,
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  Speaker 1: because he actually you saw the one play where he
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  Speaker 1: was in the hole and he kind of went like
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  Speaker 1: this when he tried it, dug Under, I'm like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? We'll dig into that a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more a little later in the program. Will come back
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  Speaker 1: and it into the offensive performance. The Jaguars quarterback Christian
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  Speaker 1: on ten ten x L. We're right there of winning
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  Speaker 1: these games. And um, you know, we've said that the
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  Speaker 1: whole season, and um, it's just every week no matter
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  Speaker 1: who you're playing, Like I said, especially when you're playing
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  Speaker 1: a great team like like Kansas City, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: overcome those and and right now with where we're at,
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  Speaker 1: we need to make those plays and keep that momentum.
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  Speaker 1: And and that's that's where we're at right now. And um,
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  Speaker 1: you know that's you look at the locker room after
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  Speaker 1: the game, and everybody believes in what we're doing. Everybody
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: believes where we're heading. We know that, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: still frustrating when you when you feel like you're in
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  Speaker 1: these games and you don't make all the plays that
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  Speaker 1: you have to make to win them. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: same story that we've talked about, and that's gonna always be.
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  Speaker 1: It's always our messages. It's about us. There's the things
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  Speaker 1: that we can control. We have to execute, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the defense, for just speaking offensive, The defense is gonna
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  Speaker 1: make some plays, but you know, as far as alignment, execution,
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  Speaker 1: hitting the easy throws, whatever it is, we gotta we
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  Speaker 1: gotta hit those, you know, And that's the and that's
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  Speaker 1: always gonna be the messages. Control what you can control.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: They're always gonna make some plays, but we gotta be
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: better executing, just you know, from our standpoint. That's the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: quarterback Trevor Lawrence, of course, and welcome back. It's Jaguars
• 18:03
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• 18:08
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• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli, the Hall of Famer and Pete Presco after
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: we as we recap this Jaguars lost to the Kansas
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: City chief. Uh, let's close out the defense, and I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: want to get Trevor Lawrence quickly. We got a lot
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: of defensive talk coming up. We'll go ahead. The defense
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: has a lot to clean up. Um. They've struggled against
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: run as of late a little bit, and they really
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: struggle in the back half. And part of that's because
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: they don't worsk the passer, and part of it's because
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: they're not super disciplined in some of their zone. And
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think that I don't think they can play man.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: They try to play man. I don't think they have
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the corners to play man. I love Trey Herndon, he
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: cannot play man. You can't run with no And so
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, Mike call Will has got to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: look at this during this bye week to kind of
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: figure out what does our personnel allow us to do
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to move forward. I think that, you know, if I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: think that's where the main focus needs to be on
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the back half. With a lack of pass rush, you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: how do we get off the field, how do we
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: put how do we improve that past defense? It's hard
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to play it's hard to play man like that. When
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: you know, any pass rush stuff. Well, and you can't.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: But they can't run. I know, it's just I mean,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: they're sent back there all day. They I know, when
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you play mahomes, those guys can get those scrambled, you know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: routes going, and it's it's a big problem for him.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I'll give an example, and I think
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: it was a short yardage play, a fourth down play.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: He threw it to Kelsey Watson. Rawson was so open
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: on the back side he could have walked. Oh my god,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: he could. He would have walked in. There was nobody
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: near him, nobody, no, and my home has never even
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: looked at him. He didn't have to. Yeah, but just
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: little things like that, there's always guys open. I don't
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: know what the answer is either, Tony, because I don't know.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: They're not fast enough to lock up and play man
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: and there, and like you said, they're very undisciplined in
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: their own coverage across the board. Yeah, So I mean
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I almost think you got to simplify stuff, and just
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a defense coordinate. Just simplify stuff. Okay,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Let's just say they went to a straight played a
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: lot of cover to cover four. That means you gotta
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: get home with your pass rush. Well again, that's why
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say too much because listen, Mike
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: call was a good good coach. He really is. And
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here from the cheap season try
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to act like I know how to defense coordinate. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: just know this that they got to clean it up
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and you gotta figure it out. You can't get home
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: with four. That is clear. This group does not get
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: home at four. Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker did not
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: win one on one. They just don't win very often. No,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I think. I think, um, they won like a couple
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of times between them yesterday. Yeah. And Walker on that
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: one rush on the left against the backup tackle when
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: he came up the field and kind of flushed them
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: in the inside a little bit. Not enough. Yeah, but
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: if no, every once in a while it doesn't work.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: And then if you don't get the side you can
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: step up. I get it. They're not. Look, they drafted
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: him with the idea he'd be a much better pass
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: rusher right now. I don't care what they say they
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: can talk about. He was the developmental prospect. He should
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: be a better pass rusher right now. And Alan and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: in weekend and week out you can sit here and say, hey,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: they're both really good football players. That's not what they
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: get paid to do. It's fine. You can be good
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: against the run, you can be hold up at the point,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you can do everything you want to do, but you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: gotta be able to knock the quarterback down period, get
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: him on the ground, beat your tackle, beat him with
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: a move, and knock him on the ground. All right,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: let's switch gears off. Okay, let's go to the offense.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: The Trevor Lawrence Trevor. Yes starts, it starts and finishes
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: with Trevor. His numbers yesterday tony forty passing, two d
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: fifty nine yards of the year, two touchdowns, one six
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: point one rating, sacked five times in the game. So
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: let me say this about Trevor. He was awful in
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: in in London, just awful and against the Broncos, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: he got a lot of heat, and rightfully, so you're
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback. I love how he's responded. Yep, the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: kid has responded. He played good against um the Raiders
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: after the first couple of drives, got things calmed down
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and let that team back to victory and he played
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: good yesterday. He played good. He had I mean, the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: deep ball to Martin Jones, great catch, great ball, the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: shot down the field, the first drive to Chris and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Kirk hit on his shoulder, hit him in the in
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the bread basket. The deep ball is a Jones took
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: a great play by McDuffie to break it up. Great play. Um.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He threw the ball. He was accurate, He was good yesterday.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: He used his feet, he was tough. He stood in
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: there with free Blitzcher's coming and delivered the ball where
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: he needed to. He was over a hundred for the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: fifth time of his of this season. The record for
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a Jaguar quarterback is seven times in one season. He's
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: playing good football. He's I mean he the last two weeks,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: he's been really good. Good question, the last two weeks,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: he's been really good. I think he was better. I
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: think he's better than yesterday than those numbers would indicate.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I thought he was outstanding yesterday. And here's the thing.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: He scrambled, he used his legs. He's I mean, he's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: making smart football plays. I'm not saying he's all the
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: way where he needs to be, But the question whether
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: he can be the guy or not like he is.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: It's absurd. That's an absurd. He's going to be the guy.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So that was very positive yesterday. Okay, he was there
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: eleven and completions. Three of them were battered down to
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, by the way, and on one
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: of them he had a guy he was going to Kirk.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: He was wide open. That happens, I know, but I'm
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: just saying I'm the one to Kirk that he dropped.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: That Kirk dropped on the opening drive. He needs to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: throw that more outside though he left the defensive back
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: at his hand in there a little bit. I actually
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: think he needs to throw a tick sooner. Maybe sooner
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: but or or more to the sideline. People are you're
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you're right, but he's gotta catch it, got catch it him. Yeah,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: he's gotta catch it. I mean he was, he was,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you're right, though they blitzed him, and he stood in
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: there and he made the throws and I was. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: was as impressed with him on Sunday that I've been
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: at any point in his care, including the games where
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: he's had better numbers. I think his his play yesterday
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: was better. Those quick outs that he was throwing the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: those things wrong on the touchdown task to Kirk the
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: one in the pylon that that's an accurate quick window.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: The only criticism, and this isn't of him. What the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: hell with the third and two quarterback sweep? Again? With that?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Or whatever? It was? Third and three?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not the Bills have made Josh Allen is like
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Earl Campbell, and I think I think that he and
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Josh Allen and he's not as
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: big as Josh Allen. But now, if I was going
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to take that call at all, I'm not sure I'm
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: running it at Chris Jones and a wide three. That's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that's my criticism. He got right up the field and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: blew that play up. Yeah, not the quarterback sweep. I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: like that play at call. Actually, I just don't like it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Going at Chris Jones is why three? That's not I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: don't like to play. I gotta fine. Let him throw
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, he's more than more of the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: cable will throwing the ball. Throw the ball. I mean,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: if Chris Jones doesn't blow that play up, it's still
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: not making it first down. I don't know about that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Oh there were guys out there and do that. But
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: if you if you if you get if you hooked
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Chris Jones and you get the corner, you get north
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and south, you get the first down. Yeah, I don't
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: think it. But but but here's the other thing. I
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: still want to see more deep shots. Well, they took
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: three pet I know, but I still want to take
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a couple more per game. I think he's got I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: think they have that in him. Still. That was more
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: than my Homes took. Yeah, well, Mahomes and they played
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: him a little differently. They played off. They played I mean,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Kansas City was putting eight in the box and they're like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you're not running, We're taking Travis et In away and
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: they blitzed with that eight in the box. That's and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: they were aggressive, and they basically said, all right, Trevor,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you know if you can you know, if you can
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: beat it with the passing game, um, so be it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Let's come back. That will lead us to our discussion
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: about the offensive line when we come back and their
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: day at the office yesterday against that Kansas City front
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: seven Jaguars fall and week ten seventeen to the Chiefs.
• 27:22
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• 27:25
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• 27:30
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• 28:04
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• 28:07
  Speaker 1: week ten loss for the Jaguars to the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: JP Shatrick with Pete Prisco and Tony Basselli. The Jaguars
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: are going into the bye week. Plenty of things to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: clean up down the stretch. Seven games to go, starting
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: in week number twelve when the Ravens come to town.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up a little bit later. Well,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars offensive line. Yesterday Tony Pete um five sacks
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: allowed of Trevor Lawrence. Let's see how many times he
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: was officially hit in the game. Uh, he was officially
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: hit six times total. Um. The six hits include the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: five sacks and one more one more hit after Yeah,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and then the running game. As you said just a
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: moment ago, Tony, that they made it a point to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: take eat In pretty much out of the game. Yeah,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and listen the Chiefs. The Chiefs were restive and spect Noel,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's no the defense quarters known for that. Um.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: They weren't all on the offensive line though, No, No,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Some of them were coverage, some
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: of them were Trevor trying to scramble to make something
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: happen because he couldn't find anybody. And then some of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: them were on the offensive line. Um, I don't. It
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: wasn't like they were getting whipped up front. Um, Chris
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Jones a really good player. He gave shaff Sheriff a
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: couple Um. Sheriff got whipped. Sheriff got whipped. Yeah, I'll
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: tell you this. Everyone was worried about Shatley against Chris Jones.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I thought Chadley played well against Chris Jones. I thought
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: he handled them better than Sheriff did. Now, he didn't
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: have as many opportunities. I mean, Sheriff was dealing with
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: him more and Chris Jones the hell of a player.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, for the most part, it
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't like he was under siege, like when you hear
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: five sacks, you're like, oh my gosh. It was like
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: every time they hit him it was a sack. It wasn't.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like the corner one time on a blitz
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that was one I think. I think that was a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: misprotection Pete. Looking at if I'm thinking about the right one,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I think again, I don't want to put it on Cam,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: but it looks like they were sliding that way and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Cam has to keep on sliding to pick up the nickel.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: He didn't. I mean, that's me guessing. I mean, who
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: knows Phil, but you can you can tell by looking
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: at this. That's what I thought. You know, Phil Ralsher's
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: offensive line coach. Who could say you're an idiot, you
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. That could be true too. Um.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: There was one where the blitz came and E t
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: N picked up one, but the other one got free.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: So there were there were It wasn't like, and I'm
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: with Tony on that I expected after watching the game
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: on TV and then seeing the numbers to see it
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: be a lot worse than it was. You know, like
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor had some moments where he wasn't very good.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: The right side was far worse than the left side.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I agree that. I'd agree that My big my big
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: critique of the offensive line that was in the run game.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Now they had the extra man and sometimes was the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: extra man making the play, and as an offensive lineman,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: you can't do any You book one guy and the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: back's gotta make a miss or you gotta you know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: hopefully cuts away from him or whatever. I don't think
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: we finished very well yesterday. I thought we were looking
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: around and not finishing blocks. And that's my biggest critique.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Not the past protection he gave him five sacks wasn't great,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: wasn't terrible though. It wasn't like a you know, he
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: was under complete pressure every snap. But in the run game,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I just don't think they finished. I don't think they
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: were as physical as they've been in the past, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: they didn't rise to the occasion and just say we're
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: going to dominate this front. You'll remember this one, Tony,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: because there was a play where they ran wide and
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor was leading kind of pain and pull. And
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: he got outside and he had his guy blocked, and
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: then he just stopped and the guy makes a tackle. Yeah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: he just stopped looking around. We look around. We we
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: were looking around too much as an offensive line. Yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: just finish the guy. What are you looking at? It's
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: way for the whistle, right, like the whistle will blow
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the way for somebody, come tell you to stop. Let's try,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: of course, And that you're Tony is exactly right. There
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: were many. I mean, that was the obvious example of
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: all of them. I mean, he just got he's actually
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: got the guy blocked, and he just stops. And in
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the running backs right behind them, I think it was
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: a jet sweep to hasty maybe or something. I don't
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: know what it was. And and and he just stopped
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and the guy makes the play right for like a
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: two yard gain or one yard gain or something. So
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: that's my biggest critique is the is the finishing the
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: run game off until sure to an attitude? Yeah, you
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: control that, And I think Fortner's gotten better at it
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: because he's realized this isn't the SEC anymore. He knows
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: you gotta hold those blocks a lot longer than you
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: do in in college football, gonna be a good player.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I do too. I do too. Have they done had
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a job of that earlier in the year, though, I mean,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: were they finishing earlier? I mean, obviously the run game isn't.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Partner wasn't early, and I was early. I think, yeah,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: But we look I mean, and Jawan is probably the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: biggest culprit. He like looks around. I'm like, just just
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: blocked the guy on you even on runs away from
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: him where he's got to get the cut off block.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: He does it for a second and then he stops
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and the guy can sometimes can come down the line
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and make the play. Yeah, So that's the biggest critique.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Offensive line. Gotta finish, Gotta finish. You know that line
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: is actually pretty solid. I'm gonna in Tony. You said
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: it before the season, But now the question becomes, what
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: do you do next year? I don't think. I don't
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: think you can sign j want Taylor Pete. I don't
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: either have I mean, j want Taylor in the open
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: market the right tackle his caliber. Let's just say he
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: finishes the season the way he's played so far this year.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Let's assume that and he went as good the last
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, let's be honest about it. But still Pete,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you see right tackles around the league. If he finishes
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the way he's played, he's gonna go get paid twelve
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: to fifteen million dollars a year. Beat you agree with that, yes,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'll give you an example. I watched
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the Browns today on tape. Conklin was terrible on Sunday,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and he makes a boatload of money. I don't think
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you can have pay cam that what is sixteen, seventeen
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: eighteen whatever he's making, and Sheriff eighteen nineteen twenty whatever
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: he's making, and then pay your right tackle twelve to fifteen.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: This team is already up against the cap going in
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: next year. Also, have other guys that you're gonna be
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: able to probably set free. Oh yeah, there's could be
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: guys that will not be here, high paid guys, no
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: doubt about that. But I don't know if you can
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: have that much wrapped up in your offensive line, especially
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: when you got you gotta go find corners. You have to. Meanwhile, meanwhile,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: back in the day when he was playing, he had
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the high salary, Leon had the high salary. Ben Gulman
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: got a nice if you look at that offensive line, Pete,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: only Leon and I got paid. Let me see, right,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Ben was on a small deal, but the second deal
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: he got was it wasn't it was. It was middle
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of the road, left over. You took it all. The
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: center was the center was on like a minimum and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: were was minimum. It was in the middle of the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: rage as well. And when Tilsky lady wasn't making a
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: lot of money, you and Leon took it all. Okay,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: blame marks. I don't really care. My point is, I
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't camp. Now. You have more leeway
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: if you're the Jaguars because you have the quarterback on
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: a rookie deal. But could this team find him a
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: better think? Yeah, well not not a better option. I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna find a better option. But
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Tony's right, you might find an option that's close to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: it for a lot cheaper. Okay, where I walk a little?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Is that the answer? Hey, Seattle starting right tackle? They
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: found them in the what the third round and he's
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: playing well? I agree, But Pete and I don't want
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to get into the draft or but it is my week.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: My point is, bet you know this I mean you
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: got a number of holes. I mean, I could argue
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you need two corners. Where's your pastor pass is gonna
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: come from? Wait? Wait, wait you need two corners? Yeah,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: you don't think Tyson Campbell can play that's one. You
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: play most of the snaps with three. So so you're
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: basically saying that the signing of Darius Williams was a
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: flow as he you tell me watching the tape. M
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: M No, there's been a couple of games where he
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: looked like he could be the guy, and then there's
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: been a lot of more games than not where he
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: hasn't been h two courts, two corners, Okay, just say
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: one corner? Okay, one one corner a safety because see
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: what do you do with Jenkins? I think Jenkins is
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: playing as good as anybody. If guy absolutely just kills people,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean, will you look back at
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: it the draft drafting two linebackers was a mistake. Let's
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: be real. Let's come back in a moment a f
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: C South take a look at the results from yesterday
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• 38:31
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• 38:35
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• 38:38
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  Speaker 1: in that building and ready for it's only three campaign
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  Speaker 1: and beyond. Let's go around the a f C South
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: and let's start with the Indianapolis Colts new head coach
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: interim head coach Jeff Saturday. The Colts get a late
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: touchdown to take the lead. It's Matt Taylor on the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: fan and hand calfm in Indianapolis. Ryan to throw crossing
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: pattern inside the tent to go to Colts Tan at
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the five story touchdown with Paris Cambell. That's a thirty
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: six yard crossing patterns all the way to the house
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: for Paris Cambell and the culture back on top. That's
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Paris fight Peter, Paraders fall. The Colts win at twenty
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: five to twenty and Pete it's it's amazing. He gotta
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: win after all that. You know what, every time I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: see that, I think about you, Tony. What we always say,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: it's just football. If you know how to lead men
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and coach your coaches and let them do their job.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: It really isn't that complicated. It really isn't. And everybody
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: was so up in arms last week about it. Oh
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: my god, how dare they? Jeff Saturday has been in
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: enough locker rooms with enough good people, with enough smart
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: people that he figured things out and he let his
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: coaches coach. Give me a break, It's not that complicated.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear it, but I did not hear it,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: but I heard about it. I guess Bill Coward just
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: like lost his mind on the whole thing on CBS. Yes,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and I don't understand it because here's my premier, here's
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: my theory. Is the last thing any of anyone, anyone
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: wants is for Jeff Saturday have have success, because then
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: the secret will be out that being a head coach
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: is about leadership. And like that, that's the last thing.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: And I've said it forever and this I and I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: have coaches who are friends and I tell them this, um,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the way we hire head coaches is all wrong. Just
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: because you're a good coordinator doesn't mean you're a good
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: head coach. Two different skill sets. Now, Doug Peterson happens
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to be a great play caller in a really good
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: head coach because he's a great leader. But him be
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: a good play caller has nothing to do with him
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: being a good head coach, two different skill sets. Like
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I could not if someone, if any NFL team, hell,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: heck a college team, said come being offensive coordinator, I
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: would raise my hand saying no, I am not qualified
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to be an offensive coordinator. I've never called plays, I've
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: never coordinated, I've never put together a game plan that
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: is that ties the run in the past together in
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: a coordinated way, and and then God call plays. I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: not qualified, not now. If you told me to come
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: lead a team or an organization, I feel very comfortable
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: with that, very comfortable. And I'm sure Jeff Saturday as well.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: And that's what he did. Jeff Saturday is a good dude.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: He's smart, he's a leader, he knows how to communicate,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: he's organized, and he will I know for a fact,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: let his coaches coach. And the worst thing, Pete, and
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you know this as well as I do. Every coach
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: in America is like, do not have success because if
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it works, it will open up Pandora's box. Now, I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: don't think and this has nothing to do Jeff Saturday.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: My guess is it's they're not gonna win a bunch
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of games down the stretch, and nothing because Jeff Saturday's
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: head coach or not a head coach. It's just because
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: they're not very talented and they played a very bad
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Raider team and they got the you know, emotional lift
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of change. I mean this happens in the NFL all
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the time. You change your coach out, you get that
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: one big emotional you know, you know, shot of adrenaline
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: type of thing, and you go out and perform. Well.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna last. I hope, I mean
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: for Jeff, I actually think it'd be fun, but I
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: don't think it will. But the ire that he received
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. How dare he? How dare
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: he take that job? First of all, I mean, I
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: had this argument this morning, like, what do you mean
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: what's Jeff will say no? Why would he say no?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: He loves football, he loves the organization. He thinks he
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: can help. He was very honest too. He goes, I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'll be good at or not. I'm
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: gonna go do I'm gonna go be me. I'm gonna
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: go leave eight games if I don't, if I don't
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: come back at very games. I mean, and if if
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: they came to me tomorrow afternoon and said, we want
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you to be the head coach of the Colts, and
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna pay you to be the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: head coach of the Colts. I have no business being
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the head coach of the Colts. But I'm not saying no.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I can tell you that right now. Yeah, I don't like.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Why did they were going after Jeff Saturday? I have
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: no idea. And now, if you want to make comments
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: about Jim, you're you're saying that this is disruptive, it's
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: a bad decision for your organization, so on and so forth. Okay,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: that's okay. I'll give you the counterpoint. Think about this.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: If you're Jim Mursay, you were awful, you have no quarterback,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: you have no juice, you're going the wrong way, you
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: can't score points, and you're sitting here and it's a long,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: uphill fight to get to be relevant, to make the playoffs,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: which all that anyone cares about. You're in the entertainment business,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: last time I checked. You're in getting people in the stands,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: getting them excited, like people excited about your brand, about
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: your team and everything else. What would be more exciting?
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: What gets you more attention? Naming Jeff Saturday as you're
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: head coach, or naming some assistant that has been in
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the league for twenty years and is a great coach.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: What do you think got the Colts fan more excited? Saturdays?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: There guy, Jeff Stadders are guy. So you can be
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: in criticized Jimmy I say all you want, but Jimmy
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Hersey sitting back, going, well, I got a lot of attention.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I don't really care what anyone thinks about me anyways,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: that's obvious. Just followed the history. Um, I got a
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: guy who I like. I got a guy who's I trust.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I got a guy who represents my brand. If it
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't work out, who cares. I'll go find another coach.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Trust me. All the coaches that are all upset right
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: now and going this is unfair, this is ridiculous. Guess
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: what if Jeff Sataray doesn't work out and they open
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: up the coaching search. Guess how many of them will
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: sign up and raise your hand and ask for that job.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: But the best thing about that, Tony is everyone where
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Brandon's Staley was a defensive coordinator at John Carroll like
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: seven years ago. You know what I mean? What makes
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: it qualified to be the head coach? Right? It's just
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: let's like I always say, and this is no slight
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: to any head coach, because I respect head coaches. I
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: respect coaches. I respect high school college coaches. I love
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: what they do. But most coaches went into the profession
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: thinking they were gonna be coaching pe uh, teaching pe
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and coach in high school football. Let's be real about it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: That's that's what they thought. And so now all of
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a sudden they hire somebody outside the box, and it's
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the end of the coaching as we know. And by
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the way, you understand that this doesn't happen in any
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: other sport. Northern professional sport. Lose your mind. NBA hires
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Steve Nash, didn't work out Steve Kerr? How many times
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: it was? How long was Steve Kerran assistant coach grinding
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: away before the Golden State Warriors named the head coach
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: about Mark Jackson. Let me just go down the list.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Baseball guys, they get named coaches all the time, managers,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: some all in the minor leagues, forever doing their thing. Either,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, it's just it's just bizarre that it's
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: it's to that point in in the NFL. It's crazy.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Let's come back. It is our number two of Jaguar's
• 47:14
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• 47:17
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• 47:21
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• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Shadrick and it's Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by Jet Home
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. You know, we've played
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: ten straight weeks now and and so um, you know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the team, the team needs a break at this time.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: It's a good time for it uh to to kind
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: of step away. And and I told him to to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: to kind of regroup and and really think about the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: first ten But more importantly, I want to think about
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the next back half of this you know, or third
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: of this season, and and really focus on that. And
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and I still think and I believe that our goals
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: are still in front of us. You know, Um, yeah,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: we made it a little bit harder today, but I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: think if we continue to improve, um, you know, anything's
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: possible moving forward. That's the head coach Doug Peterson after
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: the Laws at Arrowhead yesterday and welcome back. It's our
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: two of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday, J P. Shadrick,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Biselli. The Jaguars missed opportunities and couldn't
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: rally on the road at Arrowhood against the Chiefs yesterday seventeen.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: The final score Chiefs a winner over the Jags. The
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Jaguars had three takeaways on defense and a successful on
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: side kick, but only scored seven points on the ensuing possessions.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Off those four situations. The Chiefs built a twenty nothing
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: lead at one point, and the Jacks could never overcome it.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes through four touchdowns to four different receivers, most
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: of them running wide open on the Jags defense, no
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: pass rush, no sacks for the second time this season,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: only four quarterback hits for the Jaguars defense on Patrick Mahomes.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Lawrence efficient again, but too little, too late. No running
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: game for the Jags, who are now three and seven,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: headed to the Week eleven by and they'll come back
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: home week twelve to host the Baltimore Ravens. J P Shadrick,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. What are you doing for the bye,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Tony anyway? Uh? Nothing, watching film? No, I'm not doing that. Um.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: It's my daughter's twenty first birthday on Friday, all right,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: so I'm celebrating her birthday. Nice. Yeah, Um, Hey, I
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: don't where I'm at. Oh yeah, you gotta work all
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: all the weeks and playoffs, hey, Pte. J P. Doug
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: said something interesting there to me. All our goals are
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: in front of us? Is that is? What were the goals?
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Did not listen them? That was not ahead yesterday? Yeah?
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: My point is my guess is making a playoff. I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: mean that has to be your goal as the goal, right,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: win the division? Where is that happening? Well, I mean
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I was looking at the standings right now. Hey, let's
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: pull it up on Jaguars dot com, ja social media.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: AC South. I'm not even looking at the NCY South.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I mean the South were two back of the of
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: the Titans. Yeah, that's right, and yet two games against them,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: and um, I'm sorry, we're three games back three now
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: since they won yesterday, three back and they have a
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: game in hand. So actually it could be four if
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: they win Tennessee six and three if they win this
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: week on the bye, that's right. In the four five
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: and one, Jacksonville three and seven, Houston won seven one. Um, okay,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: so let's just so you're three back for all purposes
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: of the Titans, right, Um, could be two if they lose.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Let's just say it's three because I think they beat
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Green Bay up there. Um, that means you have to
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: beat them twice, and I mean it's a long with
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: with seven left down three if if that's where you
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: end up, it's a long shot. There's but let's just say,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: let's let's just think about getting into the wild. There's
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: seven teams now they make the playoffs. The seventh team
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: right now has a record of five and four and
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: it is the New England Patriots. In the Los Angeles
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Chargers and the Cincinnati Bengals. Those three teams aren't five
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: and four tiebreaker against the Chargers, and New England is
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: ahead of that because of the conference record um of
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: those those three teams. So at five and four, it
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: means you're two back. You might be three back, you
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: could be three back if they win correct beat um.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: The reality that well, no, I think to get that
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: seventh spot, it's gonna be taken nine and eight record,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and so you have to in the last seven you
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: have to go six and one and beat the Titans
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: twice and beat it that. Well, no, if you go
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: six and yeah, if you go six and one, you're
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: gonna be you know nine better, you'll be nine and
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: eight and you'll be right there for that go through that.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: You gotta beat Baltimore. Here's the schedule stand I'll just
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: give you. I know by heart, you gotta beat Baltimore.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: You gotta beat Detroit, you gotta beat Dallas. Tennessee's next.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you gotta my heart. I did do
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: my heart. O Baltimore, you have to beat you have
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: to beat Uh. You have to beat Detroit. Then you
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: have to beat Tennessee. Then you have to beat Dallas.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: So just the next four. Let's go to the next four,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: next quarter. If you go, look at the next four, Baltimore, Detroit,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Tennessee in Dallas. All right, Baltimore is where Jackson in Jacksonville. Yes, okay,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: they're not winning that game, but ahead, go to the
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: next one, Detroit, Detroit. They could win that one at Tennessee,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: not winning Nixon was in office last time. And then
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Cowboys at hot Home. I mean, they could
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: win that game. But then, okay, so they go three
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: and one in that quarter, just for the sake of
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: the argument, and they beat Tennessee, which is not gonna do,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: but let's just say for that. When they do go
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: to the next three and one, Now you're you're six
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: and eight, and then you have to finish off with
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: three straight. You have three straight in the last three.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know the exact order, but you have it's
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a short week at New York Jets. You have Jets, Titans,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Houston or Jets, I'm sorry, Jets, Houston Titans. Yes, and
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: they could win against the Jets. They could win against Houston.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: And they're not beating the Titans. I mean, what, what
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: in their right mind gives you the idea that they
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: were going to even get a split with the Titans.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not, by the way, I'm not saying they're gonna
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: go six and one. I'm saying that's that's assuming when
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Doug says all of the goals are in front of them,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: meaning you're going to contend for the playoffs, you gotta
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: get the nine and eight meaning they're not eliminated from
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: anything yet, so that your goals are still in front
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: of you. Go win, win out, and you might win
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: the division. I mean basically, if you beat the Titans twice,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: they stumble once you you went win the division. The
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Colts would need to stumble a time or two. Obviously, Yes,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: they haven't shown anything that they can't right. My point is,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: if you if, if you really, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: say everything's in front of you. You You gotta go six
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and one. Well, you can say everything's in front of you.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Do you do you at all believe that there's nothing
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: that this team has shown me in the first ten
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: games that makes me think they're gonna go six and one,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: No zero. This is about building for next year, because
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: that's what you're playing for. They're not playing. They're not
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: playing this year. They had an opportunity this year. If
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: they win two or three of those other g that
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: they should have won, they'd be sitting pretty It would
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: be still a good spot right now, really good spot.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: If they were, you know, six and four instead of
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: three and seven, like okay, heck, if you were five
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and five. Now you're a game. You're right there, um.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: And they had opportunities to do that. They missed those opportunities.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: And because of that, like I said earlier, you're you
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: know you are what your record says, you are going
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: to build parcels. I agree with them. You're three you're
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: three and seven team right now, and you gotta change that,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: and you gotta change that narrative, and you gotta go
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: win games and it you got the bye week, Go relax,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: get your mind right, get your body right, because Baltimore's
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: come into town and that's a good football team. We'll
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: talk more about this next week, but just an idea,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: what's a good second half for them? Look, well, I
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: was just gonna talk about that beat that I was
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: gonna ask that question too. Yeah, that's actually gonna be
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: our keeping it real. Okay, Yeah, let's talk about it
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: keeping it real. What what would be in the next
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: seven games? How many wins would you does it take
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: to say, you know what, that was a good year. Okay,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: let's come back. We're gonna keep it real when we return.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: We're gonna sell some wine too. That's that's all combined
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: into one same segment. Wait are we waiting for our
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: boxes yet? We've been waiting for a while. Christmas. It's
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Christmas coming up. Sony needs to get out his presence.
• 56:26
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• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome Back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday, j P. Shadrick,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco. The Jaguars fell yesterday in Kansas
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: City seventeen and it's time for keeping it real. Presented
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  Speaker 1: the hard tease right before the break, but here it
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: is tonight, the realistic stretch run for the Jaguars. What
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: is a good final seven games for this Jaguars team
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: may not have to be wins and losses. You could
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: go deeper than that, Tony, if you'd like. I think
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: it starts with the wins and losses, because let me
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: ask you a question. Let's say they lose this worst
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: case they lose the next seven in the three and fourteen,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: that's not good. Like what could make you feel better
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Trevor being great? Would you rather go? Would you if
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: you like six and eleven and Trevor look bad but
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: the defense played better or three in whatever, and Trevor
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: played great the rest of the way. See personally, I
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: think this is the whole second half is about Trevor
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Lawrence for me, pass rush and pass, Sir, they gotta
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: show something some life in the past, rush or else.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: After the season, they're gonna have to evaluate it. I
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: mean unless something drastically changes, Pete, I think you're gonna
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: have to evaluate it. How what what what could change
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: that you would not be concerned about the pass rush?
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I mean all of a sudden they start getting set
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: piling up sacks they get if they if they get
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: five sacks, seats down to stretch Alan and and and
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker. You are you offering Josh Allen a big deal? No,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I'll bring him back on the on the He's back
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: for a fifth year deal. Though. How many? How many
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: wins do you think they get in the last seven
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: P two? So five and twelve? Yeah, which is about
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: what I picked them to start the season. What are
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the two? How do you say, how do you think
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get three? Um? If I look at the
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I think two or three. But I mean if I
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I try to take my heart and
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: want and desire and believe you know what, They're going
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs? Right, If I just sit back and
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: say what this team has done and how they perform
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: and where the town level is right now and how
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: it's performing two or three is my guess. I mean
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: everything would have to yeah, because like my like my
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: knee jerk reactions, like well, just lose them all and
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: get a better draft, but let me finish. That's my
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: knee jerk. But this team needs to learn how to win.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: They need to change their culture here, and so I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: think this is really important. On the back half of
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: the season that they're not going to the playoffs. I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong. I hope they get on a magical
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: ninety run where they just win everything and win close
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: games and the ball bounces are away. I hope it.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I hope it happens. I really do be fun for
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: the city to be fun for the team. I don't
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: think it is. I'll be rooting hard. I'll have my
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: you know, sunshine and rainbow glasses on and all the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: things that I got accused up trust me, um. But
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I do think it's important this team, Like it would
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: be great thinking go four and three down the stretch
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: or five and two and get to that seven or
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: eight win mark where you feel like you have something
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: to build on next year. Like what I think can't
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: happen as you go one and six and end up
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: four and thirteen. Even five and twelve isn't great. So
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: they need to get this. They need to get to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: They need to get six and eleven at least in
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, at the minimum.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I think they need to get seven in tent somehow
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: because you want to change the narrative of who you
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: are and how that t locker room feels about themselves
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: and how the building like what has to stop in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: this dang building, and the fan base everything else is
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: like here we go again. Oh we're just the Jags.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: That's toxic people believe. I mean, it impacts teams and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: impacts individuals and impacts organizations. There's something about believing you're
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: going to win. It's something about creating a culture where
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you are expecting to win, and that has to be
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: something like that. What happened from I was, I I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: felt it. How did it change? People? Made you feel
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: like you could win? You guys could win games and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: nobody had any idea. You guys were three were you
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: were three and seven? At one point four and seven?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: We were three and we went three and six, four
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: and six, four and seven, and then we won five straight.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: We won some close games. Um, we were more I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: think we had probably we were probably more talented to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: this team at certain possessitions. But not No, no no, there's me.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: No one knew Jimmy Smith was I mean he was
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: a backup. He was like the fourth receiver until Andre
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Riisen got cut. Um. We had a bunch of young
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: guys who just started playing good football. And we lost
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: crazy games like you know, once possession games, much like
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: this team did, and we started winning and it changed.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: What happened is it changed? Like you how like you
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: had a belief like what we did in the playoffs
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: that you're like going into nine seven was like we're
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: a playoff team, Like we we walked into the bill
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: holding for camp and like we're going to the playoffs.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: It's not a question like we're hoping like we were
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. Do you remember that team, I
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: mean down the stretch you almost saw it happening. No,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: but I mean coming into you remember there was a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: different field around the building. Yeah, because of what happened
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: in ninety six, you thought you were good. Yeah, you
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: have to start believing in something. And that's why I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: thought last week would make them believe in something. I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: thought last week was a game that could get them going.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: And then they actually had opportunities against Kansas City. I
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: mean you got to make those field goals and and
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: there you had a touchdown call back for the legal
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: man down field. I mean they were there was opportunities
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: in that game. It wasn't like they played great or anything,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: but they had chances. Well, when have they been blown
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: out this year? They have not. Nope, and that's and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: that's a good sign. But they're not a great team
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: right now and a team ready to go to the postseason.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: But they're also not an awful team despite their record.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: They are not. Yesterday was the largest marginal defeat. Yes,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: first time it wasn't a one possession game, correct. So
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I think this team needs to find a way to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: get to seven four and three. That would be success
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: to me. Anything four and three or better success. And
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: obviously Trevor has played well and stay healthy and there's
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: like all those other things. But I'm talking this team.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: This organization needs to remember what it means to win
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: and how to win and expect to wine. Beat the
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Titans once and then you can start put you know
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Go up, go there, or or let
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: them come there. Just beat them once so you can
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: pound your chest and say we beat them, you know
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: what I mean. They that's what those guys need to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: be able to say this. The history is awful. Until
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: they start beating the Titans, there's always going to be
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: those doubts, Tony, Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: single threaded to the Titans feet. I hear what you said.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: You're saying. I think if this team can go go
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: four and three, five and two down the stretch and
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: get to seven or eight wins, they won't make the playoffs.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: But that's fine if they If they go five and
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: two down to stretch and both games are blowout losses
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: to the Titans, you still feel good about that. I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: don't think this team is geting blown out. Let's if
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: they go five and two and lose to the Titans twice, yes,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I still feel good. I think they need to start
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: learning how to win those games. I'd rather I'd rather
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: go five and two and sweep the Titans. Right, You'd
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: rather almost go four and three and sweep them then
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: go five and two and lose to them twice. Yes,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Because part of the like to me, the back half
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: of the season is not about it's about development of
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: young players. Like Devil's gotta get better. He's progress tray
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Von Walker and he's learned how to rush the pastor
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta get some of these young guys improved. Um,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: you want to see the development of Trevor Lawrence continue
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: e t n you know, continue one thing, that one
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: thing that we at least I was big on it,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: and I know you guys kind of got on it
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit too. And a lot of people doubts.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Christian Kirk has proven to be everything they thought he
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: would be. He's been great. I mean he's he's not
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: a number one wide receiver. He's their number one though,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: and he's clearly their number one. Um, and I think
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: he's been fantastic always. Yeah, he's I mean, Chris good player.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of angst from outside the building
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: of the number they paid him around the league, obviously,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: but who cares. I mean, where's the ranking that I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: gotta look and see. But I think he's up there
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: in the top of a lot of those categories. To yeah, um,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: he only bring this up because we just played and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I don't have and here's his number, and he's done
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: a good job. Yeah, he's nine in the league in targets,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: eleventh and receptions tenth and receiving yards and third and touchdown.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Pep, let me ask you a question. This
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: is and this is just it's by week, so we
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: do stupid things like this looking back, and I thought
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: of this standing on the field watching the Chiefs, and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's close to the same salary combined. Would
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you rather have you do Smith Schuster and val Scandling,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: the two of them, or just Christian Kirk. That's a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: good question, That's a really good question. I think Kirk
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: is better than both of them, but together they might
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: be a better option because you get the threat in
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: the middle of the field and Smith Schuster and then
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: you get the speed threat with Valdes Scandling. And you know,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: I was a big believer in Valdes Scandling. I thought
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars should have signed him. Um, you know, anyways,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: I would you rather have Vald's Handling or z A.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Jones be in true, I think d jones Is numbers
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: are probably better than this game. They are they are,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: but he would they missed time a little bit too,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I think. So it's I mean, I think Kirkins A
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Jones are fine together. The problem now becomes that you
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: need a third one. Yeah, I mean, I guess my
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: point is I agree with you. If you look at
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: the signing of A Jones and Christian Kirk, those guys
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: are both performing well. Are they perfect now? But who is?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: But they're good players and we are a we are
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: we are as good at the wide receiving position since
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Jimmy and Keenan were here. That's a fact. And if
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: they had a guy like you draft one of those
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: guys like that's for example, this is a like the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Bengals had te Higgins and their boyd and drafted Jamaar ja'son.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Now they have arguably the best and I think they're
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: the best receiving group in the league. So if you
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: had Za Jones and Christian Kirk and somehow you could
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: find that other guy, you might have the best receiving
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: group in the league. Calvin Ridley next year, I mean,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: he can't discount him. I mean he was a one
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: and two years ago. Calvin Ridley was a number one
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: wide receiver before all that stuff. I mean was a
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: ninety catches average over fifteen yards to catch and had
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. That's the number one receiver stuff. You have
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: to introduce you what he's like after being on football
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: for two years and Pete I was I was talking
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: to someone about this stur day. Can you name one
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: guy in the history of the league that has sat
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: out two years from playing football and came back and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: was the same player? No, most, but most of the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: guys who sat out, though Tony were either sitting out
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: for an injury a or they were older and we're
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: holding now for more money. Like what's his name? Didn
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Sean Gilbert said, out a whole year then come back.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: He was never the same, remember, so this is different.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: He's only what twenty five? Yeah, maybe I don't know,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: but you're right, though, there's no there's nothing saying he's
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: going to be the same player Gridley during December twenty
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: year old. Um, that's my biggest concern. I mean, yes,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: before Ridley left the game, he was outstanding, no doubt
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: about it. Um. But with him in the fold, you
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: can't really draft a receiver in the first two or
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: three rounds with all the other needs on this team. No,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not against the move. I'm not being critical to move.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's the risk. Right. You wouldn't make
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: that move with the idea that you would draft the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: receiver down. And I'll be honest with you, the free
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: agent class receiver stinks relative to where it's been, and
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: the class of receivers in college football isn't as good
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: as it's been over the years, So it makes sense
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: to go make a move like that. That is keeping
• 1:11:05
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• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: at Douval Underscore. Magic Pete told us at the beginning
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: of the year that this year is all about sixteen,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: getting reps and developing, and the next year we could
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: make a run. How do you guys feel so far
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: about his development sixteen? Of course, being Trevor Lawrence, I
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: feel I mean, I like it. I mean he's getting better,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: he's being coached, the understanding the system. I think he's
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: making better decisions. He had a bad day game in London,
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  Speaker 1: but he's a young guy. Um, I I feel I
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  Speaker 1: feel positive of where he is on his path to
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  Speaker 1: being a franchise quarterback. I agree one. I just think
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: earlier he had a little moments there where he's struggled
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  Speaker 1: a bit. Uh, he kind of got back out of
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  Speaker 1: it again, and I think the way he's played last
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks has been outstanding. So I'm not concerned
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  Speaker 1: about him one bit. And now, having said that I
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: did think this would be a big time breakout season
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  Speaker 1: for him and hasn't quite worked out to that degree yet.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I said I thought he'd throw over thirty
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: touchdown passes. He's not gonna sniff that. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And so from that standpoint, at least
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: my standpoint, I thought it would be better than where
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: it is. But I do think he's making progress. And
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  Speaker 1: anybody who thinks he shouldn't be the franchise quarterback and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: won't be a franchise quarterback is misguided. Next question social
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: media Twitter busy today. This is from at Reno High Tower.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: It's when he won. The old line got worked at
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: time yesterday. How do we best remedy you this for
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  Speaker 1: next season? Do you agree with that? First off, Tony
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  Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you did. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: worked as the right word. I mean, listen, this is
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: the I mean. I love our fans. I love the questions.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Please keep them coming. But why is it like, well,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: it doesn't go well. It's always like they play like
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: it's like, let's play the offensive line. They got worked?
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean they got worked? I haven't heard
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: one question about how great they've been the last five weeks.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: By the way, like like in the last five weeks,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: the number one rushing offense in the NFL um one
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: of the lowest sacks totals in the NFL. Yeah, it
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: was it their best game. No, it wasn't. Specnel blitched
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: got after them, brought more than they picked up a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times. A couple of guys got a little
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: bit leaky, no doubt about it. The right side did
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: not have their best day. But like they didn't get worked.
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  Speaker 1: I just disagree with that characterization. Yeah, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think after watching the tape Again, I said
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: it earlier. I thought they got worked, then watched the tape.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't it worked. There were moments where they didn't play
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  Speaker 1: great in certain spots. I thought the right side had
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: some bad moments. But getting worked, that's no, they didn't
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: get worked. The off at as a whole got worked
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: at times because they couldn't handle the blitz and and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: didn't slide the protection and little things. I had held
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  Speaker 1: the ball, But other than that, the line did not
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  Speaker 1: get worked. Now, as far as fixing it, I don't
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: know if you have to fix it, but We talked
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: about it earlier, Tony. They're gonna have an issue at
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: right tackle. They're gonna have to find a right tackle somewhere, somehow,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: someway they're gonna find. I mean, here's the thing. If
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: you drafted guy in the second round, you shouldn't have
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: to be looking for a right tackle. They drafted Walker
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Little last year in the second round. You're the one
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: who's questioned whether he can play right tackle. In the past.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't quite just ask. We got beat up by
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Jowan Taylor, no doubt about that. Your right tackle. Your
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: mind right now. If I asked you right now, let
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Walker walk and you would take. You would be okay
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: with Walker Little as your right tackle. You have to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: get better. I mean, everybody's gotta get everybody's gotta get
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: better all the time. But you think you I know,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: you're you're you're you're avoiding the issue. You don't think
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand pat. I'll tell you this, There's gonna
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: be competition in training camp for him where from where though,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. There'll be someone out there, some some
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: like veteran nomad of an offensive line has been like,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: I'm four teams. That's you know, scrappy and like, I
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, you've seen some of the right tackles
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: are playing in this league. No, I mean the chief
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: start guy Wiley, who has been a guard. He's there
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: starting right taggle. They have issues at right tackle and
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: he goes down. They put the other guy in. He
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: was off the scrap heap. You understand what I'm saying.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: If Walker little is not the answer, they got a
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: major problem. I agree, he's gotta be it. Next question,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: got a there the the burr of the saddle. There
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit at Devil Jaguar X eight two. Why
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: is the defensive line struggling so much? We keep hearing
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: on Josh Allen is a bad dude in a good way,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: I think, but he's invincible on Sunday's Invisible not invincible,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: thank you Invisible Sunday's tray Von also not living up
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: to the building of number one pick. Is it scheme?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Is it effort? Why are they constantly not impacting the
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Um. I don't think it's scheme.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's effort. I mean it's not efforts,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: certainly not effort. Because they both play hard it's not effort.
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  Speaker 1: Neither guy has looked like a dynamic pass rusher. Like
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: dynamic pass rushers have great inside moves, like did anyone
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: watch boast of last night? Right? He was working, I
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: feel working, I feel power move then just nails him
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  Speaker 1: with a spin to the inside. That's hard because you're
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: trying to stop everything else and he's disruptive. I thought
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: that he's working up the field and then he comes
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: inside with his hands and comes inside. That's right. I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: thought that's what Josh Allen would do this year, and
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: he just hasn't. Like there's nothing that those I mean,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: Trayvon has some power that can make you think twice,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: but he goes right down the middle, so it's not
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: effective power. A lot of times there's like there's nothing.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: You have to have something that scared as the tackle,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: and I don't think they do. For whatever reason, I
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: thought Josh Allen would. I'm a big Josh Allen fan,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: and he plays hard and I appreciated my life and
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: a Tony is a great dude. But you gotta you
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: gotta get tackles unsettled. You gotta be able to threaten
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: them inside. You have to do something. You have to
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: get on their edge. You have to get him their
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: feet out of wax so you can counter back with
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: power or a good inside move or hand slap up
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: to I mean, and I haven't seen it, like Smoots
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: the best pass rush around this team. But but again Smoot,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: take Smoot, Alan and Walker. None of them are what
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: you would call dynamic, explosive up the field edge rushers. No, no, no,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Smooths a better inside pass rusher, right, But that that's
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: just that. You you watch games and you see these
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: guys chasing people down, and you know, like von Miller
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: and then he's special, but there are other guys, but
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: you know you can see them chasing guys down. These
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: guys don't do that. They don't win with their speed
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: ever ever, did I mean even Josh Allen and his
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: finest wasn't a speed guy, Tony, Yeah, because but you
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: the way you, I don't think you just run around
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: very many guys. No, I know, but you have to
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: also have that helpen. You can create that if you
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: can you have a if you have an inside move
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: where you can set up with power and you get
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: a guy leaning well, okay, but Trayvon Walker doesn't have
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: any of that because he doesn't know how to do
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: it yet. What's Josh Allen's excuse? Well, I mean, Traymon
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Walker never didn't Georgia so in college, So I don't
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: know why all of a sudden you thought he could
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: show ing in the NFL and the developed some skill
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: set he never had it in college. It's not fair
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: to the kid. But why isn't Josh Allen done it?
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have an answer that's very good,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: at least I don't. But like the expectations that Traymon
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Walker was, I mean we said it on the show.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: If you're counting on him being a dynmatic pass rusher,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: did you watch tape? He's a good football player, disruptive,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: has just freakish capabilities and athletic ability and size, strength, length, speed.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: But they drafted they drafted Paul Spicer first over. No, wow,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: that's not I still think Draymond Walker is gonna be
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: a good is a good football player, but he's not
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: a dynamic pass rusher. He wasn't that in Georgia. Why
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden would he like tell me the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: last guys Hudginson Whereas Hutchinson and and Thibodeau. Both were
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: dynamic passes, were pass rushers like you watched Hutchinson. He
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: knows how to rush the pastor how many sacks does
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: he have on the year this year? Four? Nothing? Great? Four? Five?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: I think five? He got another one yesterday, I think Hutchinson.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: But but he's steel. But the reason you didn't take
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: it Hudson because everyone thought the ceiling was too low,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: or he's a one trick pony. Yeah, but that trick
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: pony goes up the field right now. I'll take a
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: pony that can stack the quarterback some tricks, I mean.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: But so it's like wildly and fair to me, like
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: to put this on tradmont Walker now, and and it's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: not for him. He's got to learn how to be
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher. I'm more concerned about the other guy
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: who's not rushing the pass of the way in year
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: number what is it? Three? Four? Four? Is the year four?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: He should be. He should be well ahead of where
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: he is right now, and it's just not happening. Well,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: I guess my question. Yeah, I don't know. I sund
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: like we're going down another avenue there first, So he
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: was gonna go somewhere where he doesn't want to go right. No,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'm just the expectations of Traymon
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Walker was gonna be pass rusher. I just don't understand
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: where they came from. I just don't. I mean, tell
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: me the last guy in college who came to from
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: college to the NFL, his rookie Yere who wasn't a
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: pass rusher in college, but all of a sudden became
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: a dynamic pass rusher in the NFL. I just don't
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: know that guy. No, it's hard to rush the pastor like.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: It takes skill set. It's not just big, strong, fast guys.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: It's like you have you know how you understand angles,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: you know how to get on in the edge, you
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: know how to use your hands, you know how to
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: counter work back inside. I mean, there's like a skill set.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: And so I like, like I wouldn't like I'm just
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: responding to the question, I wouldn't be freaking about Traymon Walker,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: like it doesn't Like I'm not shocked. I am surprised
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. So I thought Josh Allen would be
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: a well off the fifteen is that guy and he's not?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Our next question social media that was a good one.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: This is from at trull Will ninety two. Why were
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: there so many guys running wide open on our defense yesterday?
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Oh boy? We touched on this earlier. Yeah, poor drops,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: poor communication. We heard about you know, JP, you talked
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: about Doug saying that the UH um coach, the court coach,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: the UH player. Communication went out for two plays, one
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: being the Canaries Tony yep. We talked about what you know,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: maybe you should have called time out there they didn't,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: you know, blown coverage. That's what happens, um. But you know,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: if that would be great if that was only one
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: guys wide open. And I think communication and being on
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: the same page is critical. And I think, you know,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, I think Devin Lloyd's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: really struggling in coverage poorly. I mean, there's no you
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: can't sugarcoat he's playing bad football right now. I think
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: that what's that? I think that's just what I said.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: I think he sugarcoatd it Pete. He just said that. Well,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: he didn't say bad. I said he's really poor and
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: bad and coverage what else you like? And he's not
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: playing great in the run game, awful. We're talking about
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: pass coverage, Pete, that was the question, you idiot, I'm
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: saying he's not. Are you paying attention to the show?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Obviously obviously he's not. I mean, turn off television or
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: whatever you're doing down there. I heard the question. I'm
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: just throwing it out there. He's playing poorly in all
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: facets of the game. Okay, you think you think he
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: starts next time they take the field. I think I
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: already said that in this show. I would be surprised
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: if you said what you would do? What? What do
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: you think they do? I think Momma is going to
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: start the next game, though I do too. Wow. Uh
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: final question one more from social media today at yoga
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: climber one. We're not doing this? What our defense benefits
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: switching to a four three? After all? This crime about
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: switching they really played most of the time anyways, they
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: played Nickels four down most of the time. I'm not
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: this converse, of course. No, it's come on, stop no
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: better players, better production, better performance. I mean, I think
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: you know a question if you wanted to forget about
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: the three F three, how big Traymond Walker? What six
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: six six five six five six to seventy he's six
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: five officially two seventy two. Do you put twenty pounds
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: on Traymon Walker and make him a three for defensive end?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Like make him a Bruce Smith. I mean he, I
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: mean he doesn't have the skill set Bruce Smith Ship.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong me Bruce Smith, all time stack leader.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: My point is not put him out in coverage. Do
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: you go put him down, make him to hand in
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: the ground, or play him like Chris Jones in in
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: the On when he lines up outside, like with his
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: hand on the ground like that you're talking about, I'm
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: talking like a three or four defensive end. Oh, so
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: you put him down, so you'd have a nose tackle
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: him and then down guy, he'd be he You would
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: think he'd be doing right. Scary in that role, wouldn't you, Like, Yeah,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: he's dynamic, he's powerful. You put pounds on him, he's
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: strong as heck, and then you can bat and then right.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: I actually one of the things I want to see
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: down the stretch, let him rush inside. Didn't they do
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: that for a minute, like a few weeks ago. I
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: don't remember. Forget. Yeah, I'm with Tony. I think maybe
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: putting fifty pounds on him wouldn't be bad. Put another
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: ten to twelve on Devin Lloyd. Make him that outside
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: linebacker that can rush the passer. I mean, I'm just
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: which I definitely falling that's what we're doing. Huh. I
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: definitely want to see him rush from a three technique
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: down the stretch. I would like to see it. Why not?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: I would agree with you, well that that question you
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: didn't like led to some pretty good spitball. No, I'm
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: not giving that question credit because football we just Pete
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: and I kind of, you know, like, well, you know,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: we're like a good jazz band. You can kind of
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: play off each other. And I'm not involved in this,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: but you're not too enamored with my make uh see
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: what Lloyd can do with rushing from the outside though,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: as a rusher, situational rusher, I'm not against it, Okay,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm on with you. On Trayvon Walker, put pounds
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: on him and put him down, stand the other putift
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: on the other guy and stand him up. I'm not
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: against it. A lot of weight being gained around here,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: but I actually think tray Von could gain ten pounds
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: five and play that position. He is so long and
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: so strong and powerful. You're probably right, doesn't have to
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: be a ton of weight. No, I mean that dude's
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: like a man. He's stunt. He is a man saying
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: he's just like he's a study. And uh. And that's
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: why I like everyone freaking at about him not rushing
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: the past. I'm like, I'm like, come on, go turn
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: the tape on, let's come back. Thanks for the questions
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: today the fanatics fan questions led to some interesting discussion there.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Like a jazz band, you said, Tony, can we can
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: play off each other? You know how they riff kind
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: of like you just go riff. You just kind of spit.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I mean we call it spit balling. And and and
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Joe will tell you this in the you know, in
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: the music world, Dad, they start riffing. It's called improb riffing.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Just play off each other. And the comedian, No you're not.
• 1:28:38
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  Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs and the Pie Week. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's because I'm wearing a suit. I got a little
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  Speaker 1: more energy today that Um. I went to Judy Coughlin's
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  Speaker 1: funeral today. Pete was today, man, and Uh I was.
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  Speaker 1: I got busy and just didn't have time to change. Frankly,
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  Speaker 1: but Tom spoke. He did an amazing job. It was
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful service. And Brian Coughlin Um, their third child,
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  Speaker 1: spoke as well. And Brian was as good. And I
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  Speaker 1: had to do my dad's eulogy, so it's not easy
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  Speaker 1: to do. Um in one I did it. Brian was
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  Speaker 1: off the charts. He was so good. It was such
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  Speaker 1: a great He honored his mother and it was funny
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  Speaker 1: and it was just it was perfect. And so hats
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  Speaker 1: off to Uh, to Brian. But just sad. You know, um,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, I'll tell you what I give you credit
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  Speaker 1: for a for you did your dad's eulogy, but for
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  Speaker 1: what you said about him at at your Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame thing. And I'll tell you what when my mom died,
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  Speaker 1: there was a chance in hell, and I talked for
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  Speaker 1: a living there's not a chance in hell I could
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  Speaker 1: have got up there and done that. I couldn't. I
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  Speaker 1: would have made it. I would not have made it through.
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  Speaker 1: It was. It was. It was sad because you know,
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  Speaker 1: but it was a beautiful ceremony and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people there, a lot of Mexico, a lot of former coaches,
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  Speaker 1: current coaches made the trip out. Um and uh and
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  Speaker 1: honor Judy's memory and uh, just thoughts and prayers and
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  Speaker 1: the whole Coughlin family because you know, we all walk
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  Speaker 1: away from the funeral and we're going toward our lives.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, it will I mean, that doesn't it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't go away. And that hurting, that pain in the
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  Speaker 1: saddles and everything. It takes time to get through that
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  Speaker 1: and to grieve. And and Tom I feel for him
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  Speaker 1: because you know, he's they were married fifty five years,
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  Speaker 1: five years together, Yeah, it's you know, and and they
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  Speaker 1: were best friends and she was an amazing lady and
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  Speaker 1: and so it was nice to be there. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: I wish I could have been there. I just couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get out of work, but I wanted to come and
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  Speaker 1: and you know, she was always, like I said last week,
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  Speaker 1: always always treated me with with respect and and I
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  Speaker 1: she was so nice to me all that always, And
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: there were moments where she could not have didn't have
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  Speaker 1: to be, because he certainly wasn't, but she always was.
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  Speaker 1: She was always handled herself with grace. And I think
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  Speaker 1: grace is the best word to describe her. I agreed.
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  Speaker 1: Sure she heard about Pete Prisco a time or two
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  Speaker 1: from them. I'm sure she did. That's the way it works.
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  Speaker 1: Let's my wife heard about him too, So true, well
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  Speaker 1: said by both of you guys. By the way, Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's finish up today's show and go around the NFL
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  Speaker 1: and listen to a few calls. Um the Panthers of
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  Speaker 1: course over the Falcon Thursday Night Bucks over the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: and Munich six team. But the Vikings Bills matchup like
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  Speaker 1: be one of the games of the year, if not
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  Speaker 1: the game of the year in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: A wild ending inside a minute to play, Vikings had
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  Speaker 1: a fourth and forever a wild catch by Jefferson kept
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  Speaker 1: it going. They get down to fourth and go with
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  Speaker 1: the one cousin sneak has stopped short the Bills took
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  Speaker 1: over from their own one yard line with a four
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  Speaker 1: point lead, and then all hell broke loose with Paul
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  Speaker 1: out and Pete versus on the cafe in Minnesota Vikings
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  Speaker 1: Radio Network and Davis was behind Allen and he tried
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  Speaker 1: to push him. He didn't get out of there. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't get out. He didn't ash get out. That's a safety.
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  Speaker 1: Give it to us, give us the safety. Look at
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  Speaker 1: let's taking so long down. Yes, even my kids are
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  Speaker 1: gonna win, kid me, yes, drop that fall, Josh Owen
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  Speaker 1: ball came lose. Holy cow, Josh was trying touchdown through
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  Speaker 1: the middle of they signal touchdown. They're rulling on the film?
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  Speaker 1: Is that the quarter rock muffed the south Gonna Sola
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  Speaker 1: dived on the ball Indian zone touchdown? Ye? Yes, how
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  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Well, the problem there is that
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  Speaker 1: the game wasn't over yet. Yes, they had the lead,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a long way to go. Pete that
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  Speaker 1: they ended up winning the boy right there, the game's
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  Speaker 1: out over. But Tony, do you remember all the right
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  Speaker 1: moves the movie? Yes? Do you remember Salvucci fumble? They
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  Speaker 1: caught them the game new Salvucci. It's Josh Allen, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing? All you have to do is
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  Speaker 1: take the snap, Just get the snap and fall forward.
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  Speaker 1: The game's over because you I mean it was on
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  Speaker 1: the one inch line. He I mean he had to
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  Speaker 1: get he had not only he had to get a
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  Speaker 1: get the safety. Though they're still winning. Well, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I was wondering their pete, would you have been
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  Speaker 1: better off of your buffalo snap it out of the
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  Speaker 1: end zone, no getting in the shotgun and doing like
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback sweep where if it's not there, you can
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  Speaker 1: throw it out a bound because you're outside the pocket
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  Speaker 1: the clock again though okay, but okay, But my point is,
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  Speaker 1: but who's gonna fumbled the sneak snap? Set up a
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  Speaker 1: Bago card forget fell ye, forget forget about you got
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  Speaker 1: you can't fumble the snap. But not that they were
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  Speaker 1: they were. It was they were up because a chance
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  Speaker 1: to go up one points and he didn't go for
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  Speaker 1: a field goal, and he threw an interception on fourth down.
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  Speaker 1: Then they had a fourth and sixteen and the defensive
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  Speaker 1: back instead and fatten it down, tries to intercept it
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  Speaker 1: and Jefferson makes a one hand to gets to keep
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  Speaker 1: it going, and that game had everything and anything in it,
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  Speaker 1: and the game wasn't over because he went right down
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  Speaker 1: the field during an interception in the end. Zo. Yeah,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: it was crazy, unbelievable. Lions over the Bears, but boy,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: the quarterback in Chicago looks pretty good. Josh Fields running around.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: Dolphins over the Browns. They're right at the top of
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: the a f C East. Steelers beat the Saints, Packers
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: of the Cowboys and overtime. The Cowboys had a fourteen
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  Speaker 1: point lead. They blew that in the fourth. Charter Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: over the Rams, Niners over the Chargers. Monday Night Football,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: It's a battle in the NFC East. The Washington Commanders
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  Speaker 1: started one and four and then won three straight before
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: I lost last week. Taylor Heineke at the controls at
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  Speaker 1: quarterback again as they try to knock off Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 1: and the second best scoring offense in the NFL. The
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: last unbeaten team in the league, the eight and no
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles at home. Who you got in South Philly tonight? Tone,
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  Speaker 1: I think the Eagles win by ten. I mean there
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  Speaker 1: they better team. I think they win by ten. I
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  Speaker 1: think they win the game. But I think Washington hangs
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  Speaker 1: around The Eagles can't stop the run, and they're bad
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  Speaker 1: against the run. They're one of the worst teams in
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  Speaker 1: the league against the run. I think the Washington will
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: run the ball on him and hang around. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles will win the game. All right, The picks
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  Speaker 1: are in. We've got a couple of minutes left. So
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: bye week coming up. Pete, you gotta work, Sorry about it.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna do on your bye week? JP,
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  Speaker 1: he's working as well. You got a game to call.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Southern California and U C. L A at the Rose
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  Speaker 1: Bowl Game. What about that? That's best uniform game in
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  Speaker 1: football should be. There will be no defense in that game.
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  Speaker 1: It was gonna about fifty two. What is? What is
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  Speaker 1: with the back? Nobody? But then again, nobody in college
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: football plays defense, not anymore except for Georgia, and that
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: Georgia does pretty well. They shut down Tennessee. I wonder
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: why that. I wonder why that is? Oh, they got
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: all those recruits there. Coaching coaching. Come on, it's all
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: about I could coach those kids. Um, So you gotta
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: you gotta BUYE week. Tony's gotta BUYE week. You gotta work.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: I gotta works how it works. I'll be working. He's
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. I'll be working. Trust me,
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  Speaker 1: do you have you don't have a game this week
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: with Westwood One or something. No. I took the weekend off.
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  Speaker 1: I got my daughter's birthday, so I'll be entertaining. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, one last thing before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 1: They asked me about Jeff Saturday on the air the
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: other day, was on with Brady Quinn, and I said, look,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: no matter how bad he is, he's still not the
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: worst NFL coach of all time. Urban Meyer is. He
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: will not be worse than Urban Meyer, and Brady Quinn
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  Speaker 1: works with him. You should have seen the look there
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  Speaker 1: you go, Pete Briscoe, Show, Fortunato, Britt Reever, David Shoe,
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  Speaker 1: our entire crew. I'm JP Shadrick's Jaguars Happy Hour on
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network.