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WTF Just Happened On Daredevil: Born Again??? (Episode One & Two Review) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: It was five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't even we gotta make of a lie toll
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  Speaker 2: of them. And what's up, y'all? And welcome to Oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, what an episode of four All Nerds. It's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be. It's your boy, DJ Ben I mean aka
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  Speaker 2: Wakanda's favorite DJ to Kevin Bacon of the Internets. Keep
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  Speaker 2: that same inner John when you see me, Bobby Flag Hollywood,
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  Speaker 2: I mean here in the spaceship El Diablo, I begot
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  Speaker 2: and as always I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Joined by Tassiana King, the grand that is a tech
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  Speaker 3: also known as Bretta Scott King, Gorilla Rod Flex, Luthor,
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  Speaker 3: Gucci Maine Delorian, Tatiana King, the Conqueror, the Coldest with
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  Speaker 3: the Soldier ever and Doc Ockey who.
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  Speaker 2: All right, folks, look you've already seen it. If you're
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  Speaker 2: watching this, this is going to be a spoiler film. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: review of the first two episodes of dared Evil Born Again.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to all of the Devil's advocates out there
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  Speaker 2: watching and listening right now, all of the fan fans,
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  Speaker 2: all the base right ldblos out there in the universe.
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  Speaker 2: Very nice.
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  Speaker 1: Rihanna got the Navy, We got the Devil's Advocates.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, before we start cursing up a storm and doing
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  Speaker 2: other things. You know, I don't have no liquor to
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  Speaker 2: pour out from my man's like I said. Folks, this
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  Speaker 2: is a spoiler filed review.
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  Speaker 1: Spoiler.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's. That is your last warning. If you have
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  Speaker 2: not seen the first two episodes of Dared Of Were
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  Speaker 2: Born Again out now on Disney Plus, do not go
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  Speaker 2: any further and don't listen to anyone. And if you haven't,
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  Speaker 2: go watched them right now before you watch anyone, before
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  Speaker 2: you talk to anyone, if you have any interest in this.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we're now well past a minute.
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  Speaker 1: You got it, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just say, right off the break, rest in
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  Speaker 2: power to a real one, Foggy Nelson.
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  Speaker 1: It was five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't even asked. We got they lie to all
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  Speaker 2: of us, these niggas said, we bringing them back my
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  Speaker 2: man up. Joe Winner said, I wouldn't do this show
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  Speaker 2: without my man Foggy Nelson for five minutes maybe because
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  Speaker 2: after that, I'm putting hot ones in fogg pockets straight
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  Speaker 2: up the foggy, right off the mock wave hot pockets,
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  Speaker 2: like boy, he caught it, he caught that shit.
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  Speaker 3: Please, Oh my gosh, listen, I am going to commend
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  Speaker 3: them for just doing something left field ship, but nigga,
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  Speaker 3: you lied, Like.
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  Speaker 2: Nigga, Like maybe two days before we saw the episode,
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  Speaker 2: I was on some random form and they're talking about
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  Speaker 2: what they expected to see in season two, and somebody
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  Speaker 2: was like, Oh, they're bringing all the characters back, and
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  Speaker 2: somebody else was like, well, yeah, I hope they killed
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  Speaker 2: Foggy because I never liked them anyway, and I was
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  Speaker 2: better to fight that man, to be like bru.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: They also give me some lottery numbers, my nigga, because.
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually curious, right for real, I'm actually curious what
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  Speaker 3: people thought about Fire because I thought I thought like
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  Speaker 3: people didn't like dislike him.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought like people was like, oh, he's just
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  Speaker 1: part of the gang, like.
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  Speaker 2: Like the Darna for comics. I never liked that, nigga.
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  Speaker 2: It was just the name Foggy won't comic.
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  Speaker 1: What about the live action this version?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mind him, and I was tight when my
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  Speaker 2: man caught that hot pocket man.
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  Speaker 3: You know what was funny, Like when he was on
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  Speaker 3: screen and like, you know, the actors look a little different,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, he got a nice cut.
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  Speaker 2: He was right. I was like, oh, you've been working out.
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  Speaker 1: He gave him some money.
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  Speaker 2: He was looking like Turtle in later seasons office.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I said that. You know that he
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  Speaker 1: cleaned up real nice and then.
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  Speaker 2: And then he cleaned and then he got cleaned up.
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  Speaker 1: Man who did the body? But uh, yeah, so that
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  Speaker 1: was a big shocker.
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  Speaker 2: Have mercy, like just I can't. I can't imagine what
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  Speaker 2: the internet is going through right now because we saw
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  Speaker 2: this early, so we've been on it. We've been sitting
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  Speaker 2: on this since we dropped the spoiler phil or Free Review.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we've been like, oh my god, and they
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  Speaker 2: murdered that. Man. I fully expected the actor to being
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  Speaker 2: you know, fog give me your flashbacks probably you know at.
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  Speaker 1: Some point, but wow, yeah, because it's telegraphing.
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  Speaker 3: Again, you can't trust I n d all the way
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  Speaker 3: withographing that he will be showing up in some capacity,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, maybe it'll be a flashback, maybe it'll.
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  Speaker 1: Be a you know, this is your conscience speaking like
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't fucking know. But like I, as
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  Speaker 1: it was happening, I sat there and.
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  Speaker 3: I said, well, goddamn, Like I literally yelled that out
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  Speaker 3: loud because I was just like, well wait a minute,
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  Speaker 3: well wait, but let me say this though, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: sorry Foggy had to be you, but I was cool.
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  Speaker 3: But what I want to say to is that was
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  Speaker 3: so fucking cool how they did it, though, because that
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  Speaker 3: was one of the most Again, really it's not a
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  Speaker 3: true I could tell this some.
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  Speaker 1: There's probably some digital cuts there, but.
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  Speaker 3: That one shot ish scene that includes you, Foggy, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: but you was part.
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  Speaker 2: Of the one shot I mean laying on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: And we had mentioned this in our nopiler review how
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  Speaker 3: this shows a little bit different but really fantastic way
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  Speaker 3: of showing dar Devil's powers and or his his heightened
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  Speaker 3: senses if you will mm hm that whole fucking one
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  Speaker 3: shot quote where my man's is fighting going off on
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  Speaker 3: point dex still or whatever, and he's listening for Foggy's
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  Speaker 3: heartbeat every so often like bruh, is my nigga alive?
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  Speaker 1: Who thought of that?
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  Speaker 2: That was intense And then that that approach.
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  Speaker 3: Cat follows Matt throughout at least the first two episodes,
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  Speaker 3: that follows him about where he's supposed to be focused
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  Speaker 3: on the one thing, but then he think he doctor
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  Speaker 3: Manhattan and could be listening in on everything right and to.
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  Speaker 2: His detriment, well, I mean to some people.
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  Speaker 1: Benefit and detriment because we see it go both ways.
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  Speaker 2: But like in that situation, there was nothing he could
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  Speaker 2: really do, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But and you know how cold and again I'm sorry, Foggy,
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  Speaker 3: but that shit was fire. You know how cold that
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  Speaker 3: is to be like you bomb, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know you're getting it in. Is my nigga alive? I
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  Speaker 1: gotta check in for a nigga as you and I
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  Speaker 1: tells you like the type of person he is, Like
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  Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of all this, what is
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  Speaker 1: my nance?
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  Speaker 3: Is he gonna be okay? No, he ain't gonna be okay.
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  Speaker 3: That's the other part, nitty gritty, we're back to the
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  Speaker 3: fucking streets. No, your nigga ain't making it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that nigga caught one straight to the heart.
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, like and that's not Kate Page. When
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  Speaker 3: I said turn like going like this, I said, oh, no,
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  Speaker 3: he's cooked.
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  Speaker 2: I knew he was cooked when I realized who shot him.
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  Speaker 2: When it was when I was like, oh shit, that's bullseye, right,
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  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I'm like, oh goodness is because the
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  Speaker 2: thing with the fly right, it is that fly shot
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  Speaker 2: yo yo. I mean like like bulls Eye is one
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  Speaker 2: of them characters. If you read him in the comments,
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  Speaker 2: he is just you know that he is. He's terrifying
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  Speaker 2: with Yeah, he is terrifying. I remember he fought Captain
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  Speaker 2: America one time, and I remember being terrified for cap
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  Speaker 2: reading that issue because I was like, this dude is
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  Speaker 2: a monster and he can kill you with anything.
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  Speaker 3: And imagine you can't see him. That's the other part,
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  Speaker 3: Like you know you're doing on your sniper ship. You
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  Speaker 3: can't see what snipers are scary in general.
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  Speaker 1: Right, but imagine a nigga that don't miss.
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  Speaker 3: And then for that to be happening and Page be
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  Speaker 3: in the center and all this shit happened around her,
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  Speaker 3: but she being left to just be alive because he
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  Speaker 3: could have he could.
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  Speaker 1: Have wopped her.
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  Speaker 2: He was trying to whop her.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I mean he was purposely dodging her.
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  Speaker 2: Now he walks up to give her the bop. That
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  Speaker 2: is his point. Hello, Hello, Hello Karen, he says it
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  Speaker 2: to her, pulls up.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted to do it personally, Yeah, he.
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  Speaker 3: Wanted to make sure she saw who it was he
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  Speaker 3: was terrifizing her when he was in sniper mode. He
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  Speaker 3: was terrorizing her. And that's what I'm saying, why he
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  Speaker 3: want to do that exactly exactly? You know, someone could
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  Speaker 3: it's easy, light work.
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  Speaker 2: Light work.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, No, that was hard, so hard.
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  Speaker 3: But that and that is kind of that's how the
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  Speaker 3: season starts, like that ship is insane, like these niggas
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  Speaker 3: did they big one?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: With these first two episodes and the reintroduction to Wilson
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  Speaker 3: Fixed formally the artist formerly known as Kingpin.
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  Speaker 1: According to him, m hmm.
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  Speaker 2: The parallels to king Pin and our current president.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know what, there's some parallels.
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  Speaker 2: But also I'm ain't also to our current mayor.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I'm getting more you know, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Mayor Eric Mixy Adams, because you know, we always want
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  Speaker 3: to be up in with the people and all this
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  Speaker 3: other stuff, and you know, even just a tad bit
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  Speaker 3: smarter about it, Like I actually liked him more than
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  Speaker 3: Mayor Adams. I just and also because I love when
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  Speaker 3: Vincent and I feel as a actor, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to align him with anyone that he personally cannot
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  Speaker 3: stand anyway, Trump, he.
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  Speaker 1: Can't because he says he has been very vocal about it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's why he's playing it like this,
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  Speaker 2: because this shows, you know, and even you know, Matt
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  Speaker 2: makes a pointed it like when he's like, if this
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  Speaker 2: is who New York wants, then maybe this is what
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  Speaker 2: they deserve, and they call him cynecal And I like
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  Speaker 2: that they did that, you know, because I'm now, this is.
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  Speaker 1: Who you voted for when we're talking about dump, right,
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  Speaker 1: this is who I voted for. This is what I
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  Speaker 1: want it, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't like that approach to people because one,
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  Speaker 2: that's a very simplistic view of the voting system in America,
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  Speaker 2: and to it's a very cynical view of people and everything.
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  Speaker 2: And I hate centicism in general. So I was glad
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  Speaker 2: that people called match Park ass out for that, because
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  Speaker 2: no man like one like, no, we know about red jurisdictions,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, redlining. I mean, I can just
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  Speaker 2: go on and on. I mean, the goddamn electoral college
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  Speaker 2: only exists because of slavery, and that's the only reason
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  Speaker 2: why it exists to this day is because of slavery.
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  Speaker 2: And they knew that if they didn't have it when
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  Speaker 2: they freed the slaves. You know, niggas don't vote and
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  Speaker 2: them niggas will be out of here, so they did
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  Speaker 2: all that. So yeah, I don't like centicism anyway, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad it was called out on that.
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  Speaker 3: I understand, like not like the centiism, and like I
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  Speaker 3: understand trying to do the inverse. I also understand like
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  Speaker 3: the realism behind it. It's just like and yes, you're right,
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  Speaker 3: sure it's simplifying things, but when you have simple people
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  Speaker 3: making simple fucking decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Like that, Because when I say simple decision, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I'm calling the people simple.
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  Speaker 2: But what I really and you know what, poorly educated.
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  Speaker 1: Regardless of what adjective you want to use.
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  Speaker 3: My concern, which I understand theism is that the person
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  Speaker 3: told you, to your face, there a snake. I will
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  Speaker 3: bite you with all all force, inject as much venomin
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  Speaker 3: as possible, and kill you where you stand.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, I'm signing up for that. What the
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  Speaker 1: fuck else do you say? Is that senism of that point?
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  Speaker 1: Is that realism?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't.
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  Speaker 1: This is what you said, This is what you said,
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  Speaker 1: is what they said he was gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: This is what you voted for.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what. And again, even with.
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  Speaker 3: Wilson's fist, you knew what he was. You knew what
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  Speaker 3: he was about what he did. He's not hiding it.
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  Speaker 3: You physically and verbally all that see this stuff out
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  Speaker 3: this man, and you still go for it anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So what does that say about you?
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  Speaker 2: That you're poorly educated? The people and people and that
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  Speaker 2: and that charismatic, manipulative people can convince her, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people to do anything, and they've been trained by media
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  Speaker 2: et cetera to trust people of you know, people who
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  Speaker 2: they see on TV for the last fifty years, et cetera,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. So that's why, you know, yeah, it's I
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  Speaker 2: I've also grown up, you know, whereas like at one
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  Speaker 2: point we had Ronald Reagan as a president who is
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  Speaker 2: a former actor. You know, this shit happened before. You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's like people, Yeah, you know, that's what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And for the good or bad, you know, we've had
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  Speaker 2: good mayors and governors who are actors, etcetera, celebrities, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just one of those things like we live
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  Speaker 2: in a country that worships celebrity, et cetera. And so
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of layers to it, That's what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't Well back to the.
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  Speaker 1: Other betisod it's mirrored and Daredevil.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's very mirrored in dare level. But also while
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  Speaker 2: I love the realism in Daredevil, like you know, the
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  Speaker 2: nitty gritty, I'm also not a person I think realism
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  Speaker 2: and cynicism are way too close, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I think that like you got to dream and believe
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  Speaker 2: in shit unseen if you really want things to happen
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  Speaker 2: in life, and so realism got to go out the
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  Speaker 2: window window just with citicism.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Matt has lost his ability to dream at this
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  Speaker 1: point because.
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  Speaker 2: Got smoked.
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  Speaker 1: And I do like in the opening.
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  Speaker 3: Credits where they yo they take the little interpretation of
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  Speaker 3: his world crumbling around him and showed like that's the intro.
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  Speaker 2: But the drop of him dropping the helmet into the credits,
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  Speaker 2: that was insane. That was.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful, beautiful artistic choices and like you know, like when
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  Speaker 3: we when.
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  Speaker 1: You want to do ship on the nose, this is
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  Speaker 1: what we want.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: You're right, right, that was on the nose as but
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  Speaker 2: it was incredible on the nose. It was art on
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  Speaker 2: the notes, right, there was this is cinema. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I Yo, back to it again,
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: just just going back to Wilson fits.
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  Speaker 3: You said this before. I just wanted to make sure
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  Speaker 3: we mentioned it this time in the spoiler review.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that the incidents of Echo carried over.
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  Speaker 2: Caught one.
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  Speaker 1: Wilson got shot.
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  Speaker 3: And you see that ship, yeah you and you see
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  Speaker 3: how it affects him mentally too. It affected him emotionally.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a glass eye at some point.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: I think that eye is coming out.
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  Speaker 3: He talked about you know he's having you know, remember
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  Speaker 3: he had a conversation. He was like, you know you
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  Speaker 3: have any kids? Why I used to have a mentee
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  Speaker 3: once I tried. I tried, and then Matt Matt with
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  Speaker 3: his one line better got to where.
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  Speaker 2: Did it nigga? Like did they shoot you in the face? Yo?
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  Speaker 3: This is one thing that I love that I normalna
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  Speaker 3: love about the series and what they laid out, the
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: adversarial slash you need me, I need you type of approach,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: and also like the balance, like they are the counterbalances
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: to each other and they keep each other in check,
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  Speaker 3: but they're also like with one without the others, like
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  Speaker 3: you might go oh, you might o d and go
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  Speaker 3: off the deep side.
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  Speaker 1: It's not for the existence of the other.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's kind of not quite the kind of similar
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: to the Batman Joker relationship, but it has tones of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely tones of it, and even tones of Like
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  Speaker 2: I talked about this on the A Free Reviewed, scene
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  Speaker 2: in the diner was very reminiscent to me of the
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: famous scene from Heat when De Niro and Paccino are
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  Speaker 2: in the diner and they're distrusting, distrusting their differences, and
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  Speaker 2: they're basically talking about, how yo, you know, we can
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: sit here and have this meal, but you know, when
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: it comes down to it, I'm gonna put a capany
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like if you know, if
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: you fuck up, I'm gonna put it that line.
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  Speaker 1: To find out.
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  Speaker 2: And when it comes out to it in the movie,
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  Speaker 2: one of them puts a campan the other.
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  Speaker 3: You know. And can I just say I love the
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: way that scene even looks like The Dynasty where we
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: had the camera just positioned. It looked like a fucking
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: panel from a comic book where you have this hulking
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: figure of Wilson Fisk and he's literally dominated. They purposely
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  Speaker 3: had visit. Maybe this is Vincent's Di Nafrio's approach. He
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  Speaker 3: has this whole fucking body. Basically he's almost fucking grabbing
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  Speaker 3: the other side of the table at this point, right,
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  Speaker 3: He's so goddamn big.
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  Speaker 1: And then you see they're just sitting there like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's like this little guy even though.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's tricks, right, He's just sitting there like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: you know, like I'm on a you know, not dominating
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: at all, right, knowing this man, could you know, funck
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: shit up. And he's just looking up at Vincent and
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: and you know, just reading his ass, going in on
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: his ass, snapping on him, and you know, Kingpin just
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: you know, just talking back to him, and you just
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: see the electricity between these are at tours.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: You see that fucking I will bite your head off
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: type energy.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Right like it was just it was dead ass. It
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: was dead ass on some the devil, you know, speaking
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: to his archangel type shit like ah, I got something
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: to say.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: To you, like it was it's palpable.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: And they this is why you gots to have their
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: original cast, because they have that history. They literally have
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: that history between the real life people who are who
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: are giving life to these characters and the characters themselves.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Dave breathed they I don't say growth, They breathed life
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: into these characters all these years, and they body these characters.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: What's a nafil wilskon Fisk, Yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Wilson, he's up. It's like Charlie Conks Vincent are up
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: there with Robert Downey Jr. In terms of you know, perfection.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: John Burnhal is another Like I knew when they cast
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: him that he was going to be one of the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: greatest punishers of all time.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't replace because and again that's not
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: to say no one else can ever have a chance.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I'll see you in fifteen years when the MCU resets again,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: like the matrix.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying right now, right now, now,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: this is it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: This is it fifteen years shirt Uh. We didn't really
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: shot her out on the spoiler free, but let's do
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: it now. I let Zero, who plays Vanessa fist. There
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: is some you know, like God, you want to talk
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: some drama, you want to talk some electricity the drama
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and I.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Love and I love it again just because remember remember everything,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: this nigga king king was doing Vanessa Vanessa like like
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: you know, he like Vanessa's his Martha where it's just
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: like that's the trump card, that's the name, that's the
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: person who say and everything changes for him, right and whether.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: You know what.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Over Vanessa Vanessa el and.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: To what bet I mean saying, Like once again, when
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: we talk about palpable energy, when we talk about relationships
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: between characters, you know the way it jumps from the
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: page to the screen and this show and you it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: another thing where it's like it's kind of scary seeing
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: them interact, you know, Vanessa and Wilson, because you're just
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: like this feels very domestic right now, right and not
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: in the good way to mess, it the negative way
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: to mess. That's like they could go domestic any minute
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: on either side.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: And you want to talk about like how you know,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: dared Evil and Kingpin keep each other in check now
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that Vanessa is back, you know awoke and you know awake,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It's like, are they really keeping each other in check?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Are they doing to drive each other more, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: down their path?
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Are they like Bobby and Whitney They're given me they
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: dragging each other down a.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Little bity giving me Bobby and Whitney, they give me.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: A little bit and then by the by the look
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the twist that they did for the second episode, like
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: with them trying to quote work it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Out, I don't know, man, this might get worse.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because also like even though that there's clearly and
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: this is what we call a toxic relationship, even though
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: they love each other, they clearly have lots of ANAMACI.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: To each other. Yes, yeah, And it's one of those
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: things where he's lived a whole life where she was
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: in her coma, and then she gets out of the coma,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: he gets hurt, you know, she has to live a
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: little bit of a life and she lives it. She
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: gets she lives it and it's happy. And then he
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: comes back and it's like, well, maybe we're different, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: maybe we've grown apart, and we really have, you know,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you've grown Like while I was doing and you have
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: an idealized version of me in your head, you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: because I was sleep, you know, and you could do
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: whatever you want and you could think, you know, oh
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I do all this five and that's up. But now
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: that I'm here and you have to deal with me
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: in person, it becomes a whole different thing, and it's
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: fucking brilliant.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Shit, it is brilliant.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: And another point that I think is brilliant is since
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: his relationship with Vanessa is evolving, like we're watching it evolve,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: like in real time, and you know, away from the
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: whole like you said, crush a man.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Skull over card door. Then he crush the car door, right,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: he did.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: He may not do that any be doing that anymore.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And and according to Wilson, he may be changing as
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: a man. And we know, like the core is not
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: exactly changing, but he's he's trying to. It's like, you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: it's like you're trying to halfway go legit. Yeah, but
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: you're still at but you're.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Still My favorite sandwich is this one?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: No, I know, And that's what I'm saying. You're you're
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you're half a legitimate, You're still a thug.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: You're still using thug tactics, you're still using street justice, right.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I find it interesting at least this is the way
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I take it. That And this is one of the
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: reasons why he's just pushes so hard to be Mayor.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Besides you know, wanting the thug powers. He's his his
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: his sights are set on a different love, the love
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: of the city, the love of the power, the love
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: of like he has this.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: That's one of the major.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Flaval flaws of Wilson fist, Like, yes, it's just having
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: power and needing power over something or someone, but loving
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: someone so much that he has to have full control
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: over them. He doesn't have that anymore or is losing
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: that when it comes to Vanessa and now you see
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: the city like you when he says, you know, when
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: he's like looking up in the sky whatever, I forgot
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: what the fuck he was and he was just like,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I'm doing this because I love that city like I
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: love this city. He's not fucking lying like a lot
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: of people might see that and read that like, oh
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: he's just talking to talk. No, he's he is deeply
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: he is the city could be personified at this point.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: This is now what he loves. This is what he's
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: seeing as belonging to him. And we all know when
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Wilson believes something belongs to him, what fucking happens.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: And then, like you said, the other side of that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: is that he's losing his love with Vanessa. So he's
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: going to be like, Okay, I can get the city
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: to love me in a way that Vanessa won't. So
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: he'll do anything to get the city to love him.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: But now he's quickly realizing that's not gonna probably happen either,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: which is going to frustrate him. And you know what
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: happens when he gets frustrated, he devolves the thuff there
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: you go.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: And it's interesting and Wilson, excuse me, Vincent plays this
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: so well. You see him from the minute from febye
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: second by second, Wilson is fighting their urges. You see
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: how in his twitching when he's sitting there, especially like
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: when he's talking to Matter, he's just standing around, there's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: too many people talking to him at once, or people
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: or a bother You see his twitching.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: You know, he's doing a little bit of this. His fingers.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: He's constantly doing you know, I forgot stemming, Like he's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: constantly stemming and doing something with his fingers or doing
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: something with his body to try to dissipate that energy
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: elsewhere and that and and you got to really watch
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: when he's doing that, and especially when people say, even
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: though he's being quiet, he's doing something like it's something
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: that's bothering him, right, or he's trying his best to
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: negotiate the emotions that these people are listening from him.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: And I don't know how long is this is gonna last.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Uh maybe maybe the therapist is gonna help, but I
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Now, you know, there we go. I mean that was
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: one of the things. Okay, a little bit too convenient,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: but fuck it. I love it for the drama, you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: because the same therapist that Wilson and wife are going
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to is also fucking Matt and we know that's not
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: gonna work out anyway. You know, that's don't come up.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: You know, Wilson gonna find out.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And did Wilson's henchmen do this shit on purpose?
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: He already knew, like, because he's very conniving and you know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: you're really not supposed to like him from jump, he's
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: already connivened.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, Buck, and he seems very like he knows what's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: And I'm wondering if he did some you know, detailing
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: in the background and was like, aha, I'm.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Not sure if Buck Cashman is a character real name.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's the Rose. But there's two characters
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: who are usually associated with king Pin. One of them
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: is called the Rose who's a dude who normally wears
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a white suit and a purple mask over his face
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: and usually has a rose in hand. And he's like
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: a smooth operator, murderer type cat. And then there's the arranger.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: And the arranger is just what his name says he is.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: He arranges things, you know, so he sets everything up
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: for the team.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Pin.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets everything done, all that type of stuff.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if Buck this might be the arranger.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's or Daniel played by Michael Gandolfini.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure which of these two because I don't
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Daniel Blade's name seems more familiar. I didn't look that
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: up before we start out, you know, I'm trying to
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: approach this like, you know, let's see what happens, more
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: so than I mean, oh, you know, that's a more
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: overcoming reference. So we'll see if either revolves into those characters.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: But Buck is definitely on that arranger type ship. Now,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because I don't think one Kingpins, the
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: only one who knows Matt is there, doesn't know that ship, no.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: But he knows that he has a contentious relationship with Matt.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: So why not digging and find out who he's dating?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Damnit dating?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: And I knew that he didn't know his secret. And
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying as a Matt, you're right. And never
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: when Matt pulled up on him when he's walking outside, the.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Him wild like why are you here?
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: No? You so on point, and that makes it so
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: much like smarter than it being this wild convenient ship.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, he had this look.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Buck was on it when he was like yeah when
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: he first showed, because it was two things that he
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: had to look on his face. And when he made
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: her signed the NBA, what he was like, I got it,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I got you like, And maybe I could give him
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: too much credit, but it just seems too to your point,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: it's give me that convenient No.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Buck seems like he is the arranger. I don't think
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: the roads. I think he's doing for the you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the Royal. The arranger definitely, And that would steal the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: deal right there, because the ranger was somebody who did everything,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: didn't really get his hands dirty, just like keep big,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you know, but he made sure that everything got done.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I know you love her a lot. I think your
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: time at Page is going to be limited. At least
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: in the beginning because she is staying away from this nigga.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: They have pulled the fucking wool over everyone's eyes on
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: this ship. But I mean, I'm sure Karen is coming back,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you know. Oh yeah, she was great in the scene
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: since she was in Man that was a great actress.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, but she's a really you know, really holds
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: down the role of care page. And they've never done
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the the real dark ship that Karen goes through. I
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: don't know if there were any hints to it in.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: This, but like darken than what just fucking happened with
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: way get smoked in front of her.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, Karen turns the drugs heavy, you know heavy, yeah,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: at points, Yeah, because the various traumas in the book
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and all, I mean, Karen goes through it, you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: like I've never read this stuff, but I know through
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: her character that she really goes through a lot.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: So okay, well yeah, but she's she's understandably staying away
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: from Matt. It was just too much like both with
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: like you said, you call him what you not what
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: you say? He got a hot one, hot you got a.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Hot pocket, hot pockets. And then to see.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Matt the devil push Point Dexter. Who the fuck is
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: point Dexter, by the way, and how did that does?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Does he come out of a Lazarus?
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Where the is this?
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: That's what they call him in the show Benjamin.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Last name is point dex.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: This man is repping me and that's what that's how
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I get.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, but last name is point Dexter,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: so I point okay.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: In the comic books, bulls High at one point gets
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: his bat broken, I think because he gets dropped off
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: ruf by there devil. Okay, so that's good because he
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: does some for the ship and then gets an admintaneum
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: lace skeleton adam skeleton, okay, adamantium, admontonium adam.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I know that's how you pronounced the grown up.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I always pronounced it like that, but now nowadays adamantium, adamantium.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: It's always been that. I just said. I was a
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: kid who saw it. It was like admontonium. I don't know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: adam antium. I've always been about your name. What do
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: you think this is? I think I'm new to this.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I'm true to this. But yeah, which I don't think
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: they're doing this because that was always like that I
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: don't know if they wrecked Coon Thatt in the comics,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: but you had to have a healing factor to survive,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: that is what.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: They He got thrown off of like six story building.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Ain't the fucking way.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Well that part, you know, I mean, my man, you know, hate.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: And hate is a powerful drug.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: No.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: No, he woke up like on some w W ship,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: on the Undertaker ship, like he was like and like
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the like the breath came back to them.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is this the man was standing a year
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: later in court was also but.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Like it doesn't and it didn't look like he was up.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: How is you a supero?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: But again again that goes back to the comics. Bullseye
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: is different, you know he is different? Yeah, yeah, I
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: mean you gotta. I mean the man is different. The
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: man threw a paper clip and killed a fly, I know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: handed to the wall when that guy who has a
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: better aim Bullseye.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I bet Hawkeye would argue that one. But well, I
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: don't know. In the comics sometimes they've given Hawkeye that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: same type of ship, like he threw some fingernails at
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: somebody and murdered him. So you know, like that, you
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: know he's done Yeah, he's done some wild Yeah it
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: was it was Illusu because he was locked up, you
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. So he had to do what
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: he had to do, and that Hawkeye went buck. So yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: you know so, but then again, like I say, the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Bulls has just always been horrifically terrifying to me, but
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Hawkeye is also Yeah, that's a tough one. That's a
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: good one.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Maybe I am looking forward to the meddling that that
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: will be done by bb Yerick in this series. She
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: is going to medal I don't know for for who's sake,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: but she's going to be.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Meddling a lot.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I hope she, you know, lasts longer than her uncle RP.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when she said who she was, I said, oh,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that's baby, and then she said York.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I said, damn, that's literally I just said oh because
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: literally all the memories started rushing back.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I said that was your uncle.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Like because when she said I was named after my uncle,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: that's what she said.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I've been putting together who she
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: was before that. I was like, yeah, this is very
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: long for this ship.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: The world's not long for you.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Like, no, they can't, they can't have Lightning Stritch twice.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: You can't do that like double on the Family, like
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: we gotta we gotta.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Keep as many black girls on the show as possible,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Like like you said, we have Kirsten the new Girl.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, love her, love her. Nim James. Yeah, term Reward
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: series that I know her from. But it's popping my
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: head as soon we finished the show. But I'm always like,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: there's an actress and I like her relationship. I like
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: how she came in and you know, did the firm
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: with Matt after the death of you know, after my man,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Ye laid it down. Oh I got laid down down?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Well, well, your girl she was in severance is or
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: was in seance, but she was in separance.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. Oh my god.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I hate when that happens. And now I'm like, and
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like an idiot, but I get it. You know,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I see every scene she was in in separate, you know, like, yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: she's in separance. Oh my god, and she is separate.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: What the fund I'm saying that, Like, where do I
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: do so before? Yes? Yeah, and everyone, Yeah, she's great
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: at sufferance and great in this so hell yeah, man,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: awesome great see her getting more work. I shouted him
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: out on the other joint, but I gotta do it again, man,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Clark Johnson's baby Clark Johnson, Like I said, I don't
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: know what else he's done, but he had a legendary
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: role to me on The Wire. He played the newspaper
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: editor in the final scene, I mean the final series
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: in the final season, which focused on the media and
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: their relationship to everything else that had been happening in
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Baltimore over the last four seasons. So it's a very
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of people don't f with the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: last season as much as I do, but to me,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: it's right up there with any season of The Wire,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and Clark carries so much of it. I was overjoyed
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: when you know he's at the bar. I'm like, oh,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: like you were, you know, I was like, oh my man. Yes.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: And then he survived that you know, brutal murder, you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: death free right, yeah, Cherry, Yeah, he was. He was retiring,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: but now he's back in it because of everything happened.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: He found the fucking scene.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Who Matt really is?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, he survived Bullseye, Like, can you imagine, like
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: this nigga's over there throwing cue balls off of walls
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: and killing I.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Don't think we said enough about that.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Just again the terror that was a terrorist attack, yes,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: and the way it looked like you said that that
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: scenior weep that part of the scene you're referring to
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: where where they were in the back room where they
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: tried to close the door and they every and it
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: spilled over to the back room, like you said, a
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: cue balls getting thrown in niggas, Like that's instant death.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Is that's the part that you were talking about in
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: the spoiler free review when standing by the door and
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: they're like looking like a video game. They're like waiting
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: for the door to us down. No.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Well no, but that's funny when you say that.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Continue, I would have known what part it was for you,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: because like that was that was the only little like
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: where I was like, okay, this is slightly goofy.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you know that just goes back to like I
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: was like generally, I thought, like, because there is some
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: CG used, particularly in the first episode, but there is
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of heavy CG, which I was a
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: little surprised about because I don't recall that much CG
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: being done in the original series when he first jumps
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: down in the Daredevil suit, Matt Murdoch, when he first
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: jumps down at the fire escape, it looks, it looks
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Looks sketchy, it looks really.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: But no, watch that again, Ben.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I thought, because I wasn't like, ooh, you know, it's
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: just like what he even got to be. All he's
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: doing is jumping down the fire escape. I guess that's
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: the first time you see him back in the suit.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: But it looked like wobbly, like literally wobbly, Like I'm like, whoa,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: can y'all like fix his you know, his gyroscope there,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: he's he's, you know, rag doll in a little bit
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: like it was a little off, And I said, oh,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: And then like when he was like running across the building,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: across the roofs a little bit, it looked a little
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: bit like is this a shadow puppet play? Like again,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: perhaps because we see an early version, maybe that's gonna
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: be clean up by.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: The time we see it. Matt.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But then that, you know, like that one shot,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: you know parts of it, you know, like I say,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: were you know you can tell? Yeah? Yeah, but come on,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: fam like my man chasing him up the stairs. You
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: know them like the struggle is back, you know, I
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: love the struggle of the fight. You know that both
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: of them, Yeah.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: They are human. They gassed.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: You know, Matt by that time had like twenty twenty
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: in his body and that's the only thing. Like you
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: see him just going through his sheer adrenaline that's pushing it. Yea.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: But man's stuff like fucking porcupine.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anger and hatred by both of them.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anger hate, right, and it's just straight and it's
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: straight hate going in and then even like when at
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: the top after Foggy's heart stops and like he's like
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: my nigga gone, and he's like you know, like you
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: know when you see two boxers when they gas, and
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: like they kind of do that like with the hugging
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: on each other, and you know what I mean, Like
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: because they're just fucking gassed. Matt does for a minute
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: where he's just hanging on man. It's like he's crying
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: and he's like hold on him. And then he just
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: goes and goes in and wallops him because he's just
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: like hate mm hmm.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: And then you remember, like this is second time that
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Matt has like ruined Bullseye because he was damn near
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you know, crimpled up at the last time we saw
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: him in there that was season three, So you're right,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: like he like you know, fire Marshall, Bill or some
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: shit case. This nigga, that cheat coming back.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It was just wild how he did. That's that's why
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, when I'm like, who who is this nigga?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: This ain't no fucking way again, it goes right back
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: to the commis and Bullseye is the same thing in
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: the comics, Like this nigga just does not stop. Like
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you know, he got dropped off a building, got a
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: new Shelton, came back, and he's taken several l's and
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: you know, murdered mad people since then. But you know
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: he's still the terror as always.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: So there are you know again, just from the story perspective,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: you know, I love that they're doing the Wilson is
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: mayor shit.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I love that they're doing that approach, that storyline. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: love that you have that cat and mouse mental game.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: And that's another thing why why Dear Devil works well,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: because it's also a very smart series.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Two.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Like, yes, there's the brutality and the violence, but it's
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: very smart how they do it. It's not just blood
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: to have blood. It's not just going crazy to be crazy,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: like you know, you really like.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: We said, we only really have two major fight scenes
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: in these two episodes, and I thought the second one
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: between you know, Matt and the two cops was I mean,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: it's so.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Brutal, but it's very brutal, and it's but it's so.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Hem yeah, and so quick that it's just like yo,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: this is and then so well shot, so well edited.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot of different shots. It's like
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: not jerky can but it's like quick cuts, but if
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: well shot and well edited where you could follow all
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: the action and didn't, like, I say, the brutality of it,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: how that man dropped that man on his head and
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you hear that next snapping and then Matt streaming and
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: rage and frustration.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Knowing that you know, you gotta let the animal out.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the animals out or I seriously injured two cops.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: There's no coming back from this.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I thought he killed that second nigga because he like
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: he dropped and he threw him in the fridge for
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the fourth time.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: He flipped that man over.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that next said, you know, folding chair and it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Was done, and that man, I mean the second fridge hit,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: he was sleep already. You know, he was already sleep
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: from the first. So it's like that's a full on
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: no defense. You know that will kill you alone. And
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: then yeah said folding chair your neck like, nah, bro,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: it's a rap.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I know show successful because I'm at the screen yelling.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I said, Matt no.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said you hit him enough, Matt, you.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Hit him, and that at the first time, I said
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: you hit him enough, Matt. No, he's still going. I said, Matt,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you don't kill him. Matt, you feel kill.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: That man said, you know you don't want to do this.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: He has no choice you. And that's the other part
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: when you force someone's hand. They forced him, force him
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: to go back to, as they call him, vigilanteism. You
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: forced this on him because you wanted to be fucking twelve.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: You wanted to do twelve ship with your twelve friends.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Here we are, jay At, there's a jigger law for everything.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: You're gonna make me turn back to the old me.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Like I ain't a killer, but don't push me. I
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: mean any come on, listen. I had a question for
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: you when when Wilson and friends was in the traffic
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: and he was like, what the fuck is the problem?
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: They was like, oh, there's a hole in the in
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: the street, and he jumped out and he went to
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: go look at investigator hole.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Is that from the incident that happened in mc U
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: with Spider Man?
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: That? And I'm not to say like this hole looks familiar,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: but just the way the broken, the way it was
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: broken on that particular highway, freeway, raised elevated roadway, it
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: looked very much like an incident occurred there that we
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: had seen in either a show or a movie. And
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I wanted to connect it to something Spider Man related
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: because Spider Man is in this universe. I don't know
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: which version, but Spider Man is in this universe. I
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: think it's a time Ola version.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: But no, okay, now there I can I didn't want
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: to say this in the spoiler free review, but I
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: can't tell you exactly where where Darede Were Born Again
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: is taking place there? That were Born Again? Well, I
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and then I remind me that I have a question
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: for you. There that We're Born Again is taking place
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: sometime after the blip, because at one point. We see
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: the Broadway ad for the Captain America play for the music,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: which for the musical. Yep, so you saw that. Yeah,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: you see the yellow because I remember it being yellow
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: and black writing. And the ad is not that, Zach.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: It's not that it doesn't say Captain Musical. It says
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the musical that defines all the great moments of our times,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: and that's Captain America the musical.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: And this is this is just be this could be
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: a reach, but you know, musicals go, especially good ones,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: going forever, likeway for twenty years.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: This is either Hawkeye, which is recent or present day
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: because remember Hawkins of Place when right before or after
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: No Way Home. So it's all, you know, like very
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: up to date. This is like right now in Marvel time.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I think it's right now, you know.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I think Wilson Fish is becoming the mayor and somewhere
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Tom Hollind's like, Yo, what the fuck you know? And
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: nobody knows who I am. I can't. That's where I
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: think we're at right now.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Even so, if that's the case, I still think this
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: might be something connected to an actual incident to we
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: saw else because the way that that could be no
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: way home.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: It looked like an impact hole it did. It looked like,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: you know, it looked like damage.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like that's not the type of hole that
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: would occur in normal and tear with cars. You know what.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even a sinkhole. It was someone punched Superman punched.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: The nigga down, or you know, did a a Superhero
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: landing like it was something It looked familiar.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Some of those you know weird YouTube channels, you know,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: are gonna be like, you know, fIF the Easter.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Eggs and you know, I'm sure they're going to measure
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: the diameter of the hole and say, well, you know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: this has the angel outline of somebody.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm telling you it's related to something we seen
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: in the MCU. Something's telling me.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: All right now. My question for you is, and we
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: talked about this before, and now that Wilson is running
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: or is mayor look, I either need to hear about
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Luke Cage or I need to see Luke Cage in
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: this set.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: They did go to Harlem, yes Spanish alum, but they
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: did go to Harlem.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to hear what is Luke's reaction to
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: all this, I need to see it. I'd like to
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: see my girl chess, you know, I'd like to see
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: that too. We need to definitely need to see Luke
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: up in here, because it's like Wilson becoming you know,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: May and Luke being the godfather of Harlem right now, right,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I need to see some you know, interaction and reaction. Now,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: another thing that we talked about before, but we gotta
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: bring up up again. If a man Kamar playing the
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: white Tiger just one of, like I say, one of
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: my favorite obscure Marvel characters. I guess that's how.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: An amulet. He is dead ass about this Amulet.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Tell me, okay, let me tell you, because in the
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: comics is so ill right one, he's the white Tiger
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: in his costume back in the that they might have
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: changed it, but it was I saw what they're doing
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: here because it has like more black tiger stripes. It
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: was just white. It looked like the black panther, but white,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: you know. And I guess he had a little tiger ears.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like the panther ears, but it was fire.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: And then to compliment the costume, he had the white joint,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: but the suit only appeared when he put on the amulet.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: And the amulet and the cost in the comics was
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: a green jade tiger head and two green jade tiger paws.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: So it looks so sick, you know what I mean.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: He had this white suit with this green jade tiger
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: head and the two paws, you know, hanging.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: From the powers.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I guess, like what an ambulet do? Oh? It gave
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: him like super Strang super and Jody all that ship.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Like my man's a badass, you know, Like I think
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: in a hand in hand he is giving it to Daredevil,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: you know, wearing the amulet because he is like you know,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Steve Rogers, I think level of you know, well, I
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: don't know about that because but like when you saw
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: him whooping ass in that you know, convenience store, he
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: was putting him negs down, you know, work he was,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: But he ain't kicking people across the room like Steve Rogers.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: It's not superhuman.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: It's just it's is it?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Because man said it a thousand he said like two
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: three times about.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: This amulet, and I'm.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Saying that's really different. Like I don't know what level
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: they're going to here. I don't know if he is
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: in disbelief or in belief, but it's different when he
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: has you know that ambulet on in the comments, it
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: was like, especially when he had all three, because I
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: think like at one point one person at a paulm
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: you know, it was like, you know, three different people
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: were using it. But then when he got it and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: had all three connected and became the White Tiger, he
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: was different.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Ambulance, not cold for like crack cocaine.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Crazy cold for like delusion. Even in the trailer, I
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: think we've seen you know, ded Evil and White Tiger
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: scrabbling up so and that seems inevitable at some point
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: in absolutely yeah, so I'm open it's not you know,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: because I think my man gonna be wilding another little thing,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, we want to talk, you know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: like we're gonna do. The YouTube said you might have missed.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: When Dar Devil is putting the kabash on the two cops,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: we see a punisher tattoo on the cops left.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Arm, as he is the one that got served the worst,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the one that got the worst.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Now I do know, at least in real life, cops
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: to try to punisher, which I know, the creators, fucking I.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Can't believe that Marvel, you know, did this move because
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Marvel has been like since this happened, since this phenomenon,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: you know, became widespread knowledge and stuff, Marvel has done
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: their best in the comics at least to change the
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Punisher completely. Like they murdered him and had him became
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Franken Castle, you know, like Frank you know, the Punisher
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: and Franken Castle, and then they had him become an angel,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: like you know, gave him like ghostwriter type shit going on,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: and then he became I think he went to space
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: at some point, and then they murdered Frank Castle, I
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: think at one point, you know, after he murdered him,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: frankin sign, but like really murdered him and tried to
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: bring in another new character who's like the Punisher but
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: has powers is different. I don't know if it's working,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: but they're doing everything they can in the comments to
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: you know, make it. Oh, they made him the Leader
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: of the Hand, so he was like a ninja Punisher
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: like anything to distance himself from the street level dude
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: who goes around murdering criminals, right, because now the cops
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: are going around murdering criminal or you know, alleged criminals
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: for the most part, murdering civilian. Quote, yeah, I mean
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: crime a little bit, pretty more civilians than you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: like most Danes, I mean pretty much anyone. Yeah, let's
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: keep it real.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the fact that is like in real life,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: like to you to your point, the fact that Marvel's
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: doing this, it's like, yeah, this is happening in real.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Life, Making like this is happening in real life and
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: making it pointed, you know, a pointed like no, and
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: this has happened in real life, and we're going to
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: lean into the fact that it's happened in real life
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: and make it part of the storyline. Is wild. To me.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: It's a definitely white man running this show because they
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: letting them do all kinds of shit.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: And then what happens when John Berenthal Punishers actually does
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: show well, because he is showing up in this series,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: when he actually does show up, and then he sees
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: these corrupt you know twelve Well.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Isn't his name in vain?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Since we see this tattoos probably on other cops. Well,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: if you know this man hadn't to drop bodied, you know,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: John would do the body so yeah, you know, no, no,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Frank is not gonna show up and be like, hey,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: these are my dudes.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I know that's what I'm saying. What's
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: what's he about to say? Name in vein, Like, who
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: the fuck are you?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Why a you know, hot ones, hot pockets? Baby? You
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: know what? Top of it is like this, you know,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: this is the Punisher. You know, one of my favorite
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: scenes in that first uh Dead of A series and
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: when he came up off that chair and grabbed that
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: shotgun and shot the dude to the right without even looking.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, that's the Punisher. Like, my
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: favorite Punisher is a pretty much a psychotic man, you know,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: like he does not know right from wrong at this point.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: He just out here murdering for fun pretty much.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: It's like there's a Garthenders wrote a brilliant, I mean
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant Punisher run and in the middle of it,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: it's wild Punishers in the middle of this firefight and
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: he's narrating, you know, his thoughts in the firefight and
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: he's talking about this dreamy ad where he was just
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: killing everyone. You know, he was like, I couldn't tell
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the difference anymore. And then this is like the end
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: of the issue and he's like, and now I can't
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: tell if I'm awake or dreaming, you know. And that
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: was like the end of the issue, and it was
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: like cold, just hold as fuck, And that, you know,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: is the essence of who this man is to me, Like,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: he is not a character to be idolized any of
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: that type of shit. He is a man who went
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: through severe trauma and he is taking it out on
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: the world, you know. And that's like I think John
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: you know, is an actor who captures that rage and
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: all that so well. But no, like this is like
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the example of In the Dark Knight Rises when he's like, no,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not the one wearing hockey pads, you know, when
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: he fights the Batman impersonators in the beginning of it,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: and you know they're wearing hockey pads, cause the dude's like,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: what's the difference between me and you? I'm not wearing
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: hockey pads, you know. So it's like when Punisher sees
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: these cops seemed to be like, y'all niggas thinking all meat,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: no character, young niggas, wife and kids weren't killed, you blow,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: you know, like that's the type of ship that is
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: for him. Like you know, you dare think you're mocking me. Yeah,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: you're mocking me. You're making a joke of this. Black
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: bullets are all y'all, you know, hot pockets. Yeah. I
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: can't wait to see. But like you know, he ain't
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: got to worry about those two That was.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Two scrubs down to dream.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Matter, you know. Five.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I am really interested to see because they've already done
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: a great job of continuing what we've already seen for
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: the first last three seasons of dar Devil integrated stuff
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: from Echo, Like everything that has happened previously matters.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: You know, it's something that that.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: That Norvel other than bulls Eye, you know, you know,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: getting his ass did from here to.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: High that everything everything I seen matter.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: So I don't know how that mean. It was even
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: a wait for that first fight, you know.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: So like what other ghosts are gonna come back? What
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: other things are gonna come up? Like how what are
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: the consequences moving forward?
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm like interested in seeing how they're gonna
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: handle that because I'm all in at this point, Like
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: there's nothing you can do to like turn me away
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: from this shit at this point, like there, there's there's
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: nothing you can probably tell me either. I'd be like,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to see this through to the end
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: because the shit is insane. They are insane to where
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: they're going with this.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: They bodied foggy. I cannot believe it, bro, I can't
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: believe that. That random internet commentary was like how they
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: and you got your wish? I shout out to you, bruh,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: and tell me what numbers the fit? Because wow, man,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: that shit.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Was like, know what he's gonna do, He's gona see it.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: He'd be like, Oh, they don't have to do it.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Like that, know that, Like he's gonna be so tight.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: That person isn't about to be so tight, ah, because
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: he's like I never liked them anyway it out. I mean,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: think of like I said from the comments, I never
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: really cared. You know, I was definitely a Karen fan,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: and you know then I'm definitely a Deborah Woolf Wold fan,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: so you know there was no way. But I like
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Funky on the show, you know what I mean. I
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: can't lie.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't mind him. I thought he was fine. I
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: have no I have no death wishes for him.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: So it was just like, you know, my man, who's
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: wonder woman. Yeah, but you know what I'm talking about her,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: you know her booth. I hate the movies now and
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I hated him, but you know, like in the first film,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: he made me like him. Chris what's his name? Made
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: me like him, you know, because the.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Other Chris, the other Chris, the fourth most best Chris, Third,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Chris Pine.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Chris Pine fourth, You're gonna put Pratt above him?
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: No, there's another Chris above him.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't even know another Chris the name I'm
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: trying to think of, but there's definitely another Chris above Pratt.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Pratt is dead last.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so so something Chris Evans, Chris.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Evans probably first. Pine is probably like fourth, third, I'm
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: sorry he's third.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: There's only it's gonna be another there's a thousand Christis
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: in the World's gonna be another Chris.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Any fucking Chris. Then then Pine, then Pratt.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Is like and eighth, Like it's that I feel you,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: all right, I feel you? So yeah, he made me
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: like him and now he got bodied, so you know whatever.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Moving on, I want to give animal mentioned to Michael
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Gaston he's the actor name. He played the commissioner. He
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: plays the commissioner. And the way he fucking did Wilson,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: like the way he read him for fucking filth and
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: basically call him the street rat and that ship I
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: was fucking on the.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Floor or that sent me so bad when I was
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: just like he was and he was.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Just like the fuck you're doing here, Like it's just
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: so New York though this like he don't give a
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: fuck and just oh my god. I just when I
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: say the whole cat and Mouse came not just with
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Murdoch but with everybody. Everyone's it's like, you know, I hate.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: This nigga Wilson, you know.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: And and the way that they're just going to like
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: try to resist in their own little ways in the
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: way Wilson is gonna.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Make them pay for it. That's the other part. Like geez, geez,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: this ship is this shit isn't the same. I'm loving it.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: That's the other part. Because Bullson got played in that
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: scene and got read for Philth and then he immediately
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: told him. I was like, how do you like, what
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: are you trying to say?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Homeboy life had a love child. He's like, oh, like
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: he said that's a secret son, right, he did something
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: some Drake ship and.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: I body that little nigga too, and you know, just
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: like Foggy nigga, anyone can catch it. Yeah, I don't
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: think he had nothing to do with Bulls coming through though.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I think Bulls I was just on that, you know.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: No, No, I believe him, That's what I'm saying, because.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: That's also not Wilson.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: He is on.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: That's not Wilson's style. Wilson will come down there and
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: strangle you his damn self if he.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Feels that Aggie you walk in the room and that
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: niggas just like nigga.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: No, I believe Wilson when he said he had nothing
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: to do with that, and also if he was lying
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Murdoch with a new Matt with a new right away,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: like he can he can read people, right, he can
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: hear the heartbeat.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: You know, he's a walking not almost a teleprompter the
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: telegraph and what's that called a lot of textive.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Prophet And nigga will tell you what to save work
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of a.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Polygraph.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, he don't even tell you what to say,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: that nigga, because you don't even say much. And she
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: was like, and it is over, and the cops went
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: out quietly. Bro he was like, no, I mean my
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: man did spring when he snapped that arm. And then
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: he was like shut up. You know you didn't give
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: time to cry about it.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Man, if they bring back Blue Cage or mentioned.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: But listen, if they're gonna do that, are they gonna
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: mention Jessica Jones or are they gonna mention you have
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: to Are they gonna mention Iron Fist?
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Are they gonna mention they don't know the dragon?
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Oh my god? Really they don't have to. The Rain
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Corporation can get mentioned, you know, and then keep them
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: moving thing like like like rots On, you know what
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, like Ran and rots On and a buy
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: out something, you know, and yeah that's but like you know,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: my the new iron Fish shorty, so you know they
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: could bring her through. Look, we're gonna get more than
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: one season of this. There is no reason that you know,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: eventually we don't get all these casts back.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: And I'll even say niggas though I could do without
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Iron Fist Hallway.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Look, you know what, fuck it because that man like
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: ten years at this point.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: If he why so you could just be annoyed for
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: it for the twenty twenty five and beyond.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: No watch though, you know it would be crazy, like
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: remember was it Ozzy Osbourne's son? Remember, and that nigga
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: win and learned how to kit box and like got
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: cut up. You know what if young Iron Fist come back,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: you know it isn't ten years nigga, Like, how about.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: He come back and they fade him like they did Foggy?
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Why not out of here? I wouldn't do the second
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: season unless we had Iron Fist evolved.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Don't make me be a rider. Oh, bring it back.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: That'd be so great that the strum mulder said that, Like,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: you know what, I wasn't a greed of the second
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: season until they said I could bring back Iron Fist. Wow,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: you know That's what I'm saying. And then they body
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: him round. They said about Foggy. He really I was
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: reading that article the other day. This man said I
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: would I was going to quit if I could not
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: bring back Foggy and Karen and this nigga bodied him
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: in the first ten minutes.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Well, again, we've only seen the first two episodes. We
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: don't know in what capacity he got bodied. Well we
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: know he got bodied, but we don't know what capacity
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: they're gonna use his character.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Like you said, maybe you get a flashback. I think
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I doubt it very highly.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: But you know what I do too, there ain't much
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: time that we need to see.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: It's just like I'm.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Like, no, I don't think we get a flashback at all.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I think this, you know, moving on.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Of anything else.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Man, it s lit this fire.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Marvel at least Marble TV Marvel back.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they bat Boy, you know, like winterso I mean whatever,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: you know, Captain America for was you know, it was there,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: you know, and now we're here, you know, we eating,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: We're eating right now, we're eating head into the summer.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: You know, Fantastic four is looking up, you know what
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, things is looking up right now. So you know,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: I'm hyped for Superman too. But Marvel eating boy, Marve
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: eating mm who? When DC coming out with a show
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: a peace Maker season two, is that the next joint
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: for them? I don't know. I want to see some
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: I want to see some you know, some new ship
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: from them right now. I don't want to see what
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: they're doing. But is this, I mean, I guess this
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: ain't new ship either. So peace Maker season two bringing off.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they're double season two me, season four whatever.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Born again. Oh that is one fuck up thing I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: want to mention real quick. I heard that the original
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: show runner ain't getting no cake because they changed his
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: whose name to Debo born again?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've heard of that.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Like that's the tactic that you know, shows use or
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: publishers or whatever you want to call these used to
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: try to like.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they don't have to pay them royalties anymore
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: because it's not season four if there, it's now their
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: double board again.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is fucked up because if if all of
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: that what you say, like he doesn't get anything, is true,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: then that's fucked up because this is because of him
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: that all this even exists.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they're living, you know, working on the shoulders
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: of giants, eating off the shoulders of giants, shout out
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: to them hopefully. I mean they're still working, they're doing
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: other things. But yeah, that's fucked up. You know, like
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of practices you know with these corporate on
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: characters are definitely extremely fucked up. But you know they
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: did this. You know the people who came into this,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: and I know it's some of the original team, the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: new showrunner. I'm not sure they were the show runner,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: but they definitely worked on their double before, so you know,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: salute to them, salute to everybody involved in this. Will
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: definitely be back to release schedule or this is weird.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: It's like the first two dropped obviously together, and then
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: the nets three are one, two, three weekly. Uh, and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: then I think they dropped two more together after that,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: and then there's three more left after that, and they
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: ever set the schedule for that. That's weird.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: I mean weird, like how friendly neighbor here Spider Man
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: was weird in their drop schedule.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if they're just trying to time it
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: to something like it's time.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: What people are saying is because they want to get
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: them all out by the time and or drops in
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: mid April.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Oh for Star Wars. Yeah, you know, they're just trying
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: to save room for Star Wars.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, because and Ord's that big and I'm not
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: that big, but they want it to be.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I just didn't think like.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: They were like something Marvel, they would cannibalize anything Star
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Wars related.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Well, it's all on Disney plus true.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, they want that, they want all which is so
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: odd you want all the traffic being driven for one
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: thing at one time, like.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Because they don't have enough yet. You know, they ain't
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Netflix where they're like they want you well, because.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: They're forcing these one things at a time approach, Like true,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: why not have this have the network popping where there's
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: like ten things to watch at once?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: But whatever, because then you become Apple.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: No you don't.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe you've never not been Apple, because does Disney
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: Plus really advertise like that? Yeah, they advertise, they shows.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Apple do not advertise they do.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: See No, there's a seventh commercial.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Right now, and okay, yes this season sevens. Tell me
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: when the last time you've seen an Apple commercial?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Nigga, I don't know nothing on Apple besides Apple Plus,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Apple TV plus so I got for Severance. I didn't
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: know anything on there.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Like, No, they're about to advertise for that new seth rog,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: they go spit some money in that office.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: But I might even gonna put them in the box
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: of Apple TV because them niggas don't don't promote everything.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: This nigga got a different strategy, you know. But we're
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: gonna be here. I think we're gonna Yeah, I'm pretty
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: certain we're gonna drop a review every week for this,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: you know, because we loving it. I'm here for it,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: got a lot of talk about we'll be back for now.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Make sure you follow me at dj BET I mean
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: make sure you follow at Tatiana King. What else we
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