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At least up let's go it's time for banner with the boys
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Yo yo yo welcome back to banter with the boys fast laps back at you again obviously after the
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Dutch
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GP
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Heading it into Monza now
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But obviously we have to talk about the Dutch GP before we do that
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Great intro wow that was horrible. You nailed it. We'll just keep going Cole. You weren't here last week, so how's your week been?
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Good I've been here a couple weeks. I think it's two
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Yeah, so what you do during summer break the summer break f1 got married. Oh snap big congrats. Oh snap. Thanks. Thanks
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Yeah, I think I about
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No, no regrets there, but I think about it the same damage as Logan did this weekend, so
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I think that's done over with at this point. Yeah for sure for sure hopefully not the same outcome
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Just in flames yeah
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Joe what's going on?
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Nothing much um I'm off of a very very interesting race
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I'm excited to talk about it a lot of stuff that I wasn't expecting to happen happened well
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I mean yeah, actually yeah, yes, I know news and race alike yes
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I'm excited to get down into it for sure down into it as we get down into it
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We'll just talk about the quality right off the bat. Let's just talk about quality right away
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The way I had this the way I have this written needs to be said Logan body just out here burning money
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Logan crashing in quality. I know
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Yep start a free fp3 you saw the crash so I
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I saw I don't watch practices live, but I like watching the highlights of him, and yeah, he crashed pretty much immediately
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That was like probably one of the hardest crashes. I've seen in a while
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Also one of the you know one of the fewer crashes that ended up in a fire as well for the for the car
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Yeah, he hit that wall so hard came out seemed to be completely fine, so that's good
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You know always good to see that but he crashed it so hard
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He could not qualify after and it took the almost
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I think it took pretty much the entire practice for them to clean up the car the track and the walls
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I think each car got like
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three minutes before the
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Checkered flag came out for fp3 and so like the last like lap of free practice looked like everyone was racing
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It was just it was yeah, I was insane. Yeah, I was surprised
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I'm like nothing else happened yet, but like people were just like racing that lap so it was interesting
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It was like 1.75 mil in damage
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So something like that 7 is 0.7 some can they could they salvage anything?
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They were shocked that he was able to get it back for the race right right
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Yeah, I mean what did he finish in the race
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16 I think yeah, it's our 15 pretty decent. You know yeah, honestly not horrible finish
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Just in time for him to get the hook, but we'll talk about that
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Oh geez over over three million over three
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Well, that's probably why
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That on top of everything else. I think they're adding in this contract into that but we're gonna take that
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Even a pan the rest was countries like that's it that you you came out even
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Other quality related items albon
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Disqualified for having an illegal floor
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What just a bad weekend for Williams? I don't understand that an illegal floor. I didn't how is that even possible?
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I didn't look at exactly what was wrong with it
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But yeah
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I heard they brought upgrades and apparently one of their upgrade just was either poorly installed or they just kind of went outside the margins
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A little too much. We've seen that happen. I'm gonna call poorly installed
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Yeah, just like you know like in the first Fast and Furious movie. You know when the floor pan drops out yeah
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Well, it's the same thing
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How do they not catch this up earlier? I never got that was I mean
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I mean this is like in the practice or something
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That's a great a great great question just kind of looking a very quick search
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It was like a matter of millimeters the floor body fell outside of regular regulatory volume
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Which I think just means how maybe how low it is I don't know exactly
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They test it right like right after quality, so you can go through that whole
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I am no scientist. I also don't think everything's a car
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Can your floor bulge a little bit? I don't know well now it's the
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Like they have those skid plates on the bottom
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So if you run it low enough, and you you take enough of that skid plate off you can get disqualified for losing
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Oh, so they didn't have enough. I think I don't know if it's that exactly
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I don't think they ever had it, so okay
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Anyway, but just kind of staying on Williams just for a second just because I'm looking both Logan's crash and also the
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The album disqualification
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I'm seeing sizes name being thrown up a lot here too about like how this could hinder the development progress of Williams now having
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To pay for a new car pretty much and then also having these new
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Upgrades be hindered by these technical regulation issues, so signs may have maybe like regretting his decision a little bit
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Do you think he's thinking about that at all right now like this season the reason I don't and not to throw more shade at
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Logan, but I feel like they they know about this stuff right so like they're already planning for next year's car
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I think they've came out and said that they're already looking in the next year's trying
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Yeah, but so I feel like they have to have a budget for stuff like this sure this year
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Obviously, it's a huge crash, but I don't think it throws them off that much a budget when you know you have
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Sergeant in the car mmm maybe for the rest of the year
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You know if that's your mindset, and then you start looking at next year's car
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You're probably like I'm stacking 10 mil here just in case this guy's here the rest of the year
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You know for the damage. He's gonna mean so you're so you're telling me they had a meeting this winter whenever you decide budget be like
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Alright, let's talk about Logan. We need about 20 mil budget. I think they are playing a conservative. I don't think I
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I
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Think they're they don't care about the season that much so I think they're just focused on next season especially having science
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So I don't I don't think this hurts them down the road
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God, I'm really curious to see what Carlos is gonna do in their car
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Just I don't know they better come out the rocket ship or he's gonna be miserable to watch well no doubt no doubt
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It's it's yeah, it's just so annoying to watch that it's gonna be frustrating next year watching that
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It's watching watching signs at Williams. Yeah
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What are we doing? Yeah, like all the other racers have came out and said like all the other top drivers
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He said yeah, he's top three on the grid, and he's in a way going to William wait a minute everybody's came out and said that
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I was like science is top three on the grid Lando said he should be in the Mercedes seat
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And I think Leclerc came out and said he should be in in a top team or no one of them said
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I think it was Lando. Maybe I said he should be in the Red Bull seat mm-hmm interesting
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Hmm interesting there's a couple I saw a couple things a couple drivers like he should be in this seat
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I think I think we here at better the boys wanted that yeah
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At least I wanted that I wanted to see Carlos in the Red Bull just to see if he was actually
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Like his skill level could match the car even the Mercedes though
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Let's give him something to compete with some races thought it was to lose after check. Oh sign that multi-year deal
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I thought okay, and after Antonelli's comments about you know whatever, but we're getting off topic we're off topic
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but speaking of
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Mercedes Hamilton was also given a three praise three plays grid penalty for impeding
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Checkout did you did you see that I did see it?
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I thought it was a pretty like I remember it happening in the race and
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Like Hamilton went by him and said you know or rather than Hamilton Paris went by him and Hamilton was
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It was it was a weird part of the track
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Where like the the line kind of goes up to the edge and Hamilton was slow approaching that edge still off the line in my opinion
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But yeah, Stewart said that the way that he got there
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In the time that he did knowing that pairs is coming up behind him
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That's why he got the penalty even though he technically wasn't on the line at that point wait a minute
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This was in the race you're saying this is a quality
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Make sense make sense, but like yeah
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It was a tough a tough grid place penalty to get for an already tough qualifying session that he had I mean out in q2
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It's rough. Do you know the like an NBA certain teams are like known for like flopping?
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Sure, like they're just known for like drawing penalties sure that's part of their style right here
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I feel like that's Red Bull with like they're complaining I
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Hate it. It's like every time something happens. They're blowing it up and like you saw Hamilton completely calm
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I wasn't I wasn't in his way
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Like that's fine, and then you heard a check go and he came over the mic and he was like are you kidding me?
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Mm-hmm impeding, and he like blew it up, but I feel like every driver is just like oh my god
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Dangerous oh my god
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But consistently every week there is an instance with a Red Bull driver when things are
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You can't do it you can't do it all the other teams
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They're the whiny group of the bunch and now they're gonna get even worse as the season goes on because they're not gonna win the
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Constructors, and they're not gonna win the drivers
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That's an interesting conversation
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But I mean it starts at the top and Warner is kind of a whiny little son of a guy
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Exactly, and then it kind of trickles down to the to the drivers for sure evens max dads even whiny
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Oh, yeah, that dude should be just nowhere near the pit like just dude. Let us race. Yeah, like just you've overstayed your welcome
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You just shut up
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He's in the position now where he's lucky to be even still be in that car. I think he had a decent race
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We'll get to Red Bull. We'll get to Red Bull
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Winning the race winning the race is bad starts and then second places were staffing third place
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Leclerc
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Piazzari signs checko Russell and Hamilton which I'm interested to talk about
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Ghastly and Alonzo just outside of points Hulk and Danny Rick
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Let's talk about McLaren right away
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It's probably disrespectful of me to call a winning driver bad starts because obviously it didn't matter this race, but again
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I
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Well, they were talking about like the the last couple races that he led from the front
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He had like a 600 meter gap to the first turn and this one he had 150 and they were like if there's any
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Track to prove easily that you're not bad starting from the front or just don't have good starts
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This is a one and the soonest race started you saw Max just walk right by yeah
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It was like this one of the shortest gaps on this all the races to the first turn. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just
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Again, obviously doesn't matter this race. He ended up having ridiculous pace
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I still think worth put bringing up it because you're right. It was another poor start
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It was not as I don't think it was as bad as his other starts
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No, but it was still not good. Yeah, he got off
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He got off the line at the same time as max did but yeah, he getting up to speed
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He took a bit more time and he said a bit too much tire spin. I don't know
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So that's that's a good point too because like even in the race they're talking about this with the McLaren's
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Best like they really struggle in dirty air. Mm-hmm, and they're amazing and fresh air or clean air
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Whatever they call it, right cleaner fresh air seems weird, right?
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But so you have that and
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The point I was trying to make with that is the amount of times that he started from P1
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And then he lost that place, right?
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That could have been a lot of race wins for McLaren that were missed opportunities. We should come back with those numbers
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I'm curious how many yeah where he he started the pole
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But yeah, you know hit and getting your whole shot like you like to call it. Yeah getting into the first turn. He's just
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We're not even two sometimes like three four like he used to drop a few spots
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So I guess it's improvement, right and it's the other guy
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Piasperi like the only reason you said under the race you starting to come back up and do amazing
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But again, even the commentators are saying he's in clean air right now
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When he's in clean air they cook that McLaren's crazy. Mm-hmm. It's just getting there
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It is and that's why the end of the races all the time Lando catching back up to Verstappen all these races
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It's he's got clean air. He's got clean air
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And you know another point to bring up to is didn't Lando set the fastest lap at the end of the race last
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on 42 lap race hard tires
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That means he had to be
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He had to be saving those tires and also building a
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22.8 second gap which is the biggest gap since oh man
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Someone other than Verstappen in the last two years
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I had those notes
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But yeah, I'm like the last two years the biggest gap it's it's insane wild it's cool. I love it
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I love to see that on that side of things
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Is it do you think the struggles were sapping was having play into a part of that any factor?
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He was having some struggles with his car obviously. I don't know. I think that car Lando's car had so much pace. I
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Mean, I show my god, and maybe these maybe these are the struggles
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But I think the struggles he's facing is just that the car is just not as good as it used to be you know
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I mean he's consistently and I used to I used to dog on him for complaining all the time about his car not doing
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Well, and then he still wins the race, but he's consistently complaining now
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So maybe there he just like something went wrong or maybe they found someone found something that was like giving them an advantage
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And they had to take it out and now they're maybe struggling a little bit
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You know that's all conspiracy to a little hat stuff, but oh you didn't bring your tin foil
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I don't have any conspiracies to bring up today. I wasn't I
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Was happy you got the fastest lap
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But I thought it would be like a baller move if he pulled like a Verstappen and hit it and then did the fastest lap
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Oh
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But with his
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But with that I found the stat
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I did have it down here the last driver to win by more than 10 more than 10 seconds even
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That is not Max Verstappen was Charles the cut Charles Leclerc in Australia of 2022
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crazy
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That's why the last 22nd gap must be besides Verstappen must be Hamilton back in the yeah, that's what I'm thinking
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I don't have that buddy. Yeah, that's what I'm
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Yeah, only because the Sky Sports announcer said it yeah
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Seeing a McLaren pull a max Verstappen gap like that's what I mean is
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Crazy to me within the same season didn't
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race early
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first race
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Like yeah first race is like 15 years. I would tell you no way. There's just no way right?
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It's and you think about where they I mean we can talk about this all day long
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What do you think about where they came from last year how they started last year?
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It's just McLaren. Yeah, okay crazy. We can let this segue right into Red Bull now, but does this
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Is this what we should expect going forward now with this, you know
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Kind of the race for the constructors now and now becoming the race for the Drivers Championship it like so this is the first time
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That we're kind of hearing this side of things
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But Lando has everything in his control if he wins out the rest of the races he wins it his drivers
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He's not winning out, but if he wins out this is the first time he actually has somebody else has control of this
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Which is it which is which is a crazy, you know?
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No, that is interesting cool, I think
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They definitely don't win the constructors Red Bull. I think that's not gonna happen at all
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they must have some of the worst odds and I think I
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Would love to see it's got well if it's not Red Bull then it's got to be McLaren even though for us not that far back
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There's 70 points 60 points off and going into Monza now if they can turn it around I
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Don't know I don't know, but let's let's talk about Red Bull
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Obviously, like you said Max was having some struggles out there
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Chuckle finishing p6. I can't I
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Can't hate on charcoal for finishing p6. At least he beat the the Mercedes cars, which are a whole nother story in themselves
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But he couldn't catch that second Ferrari, but that's still a problem to me
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Like he should be he's got to close that gap to max and I think you brought it up Joe a few weeks ago
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And I think you're right the more we keep going like it's more and more important that the two drivers need to be a little bit closer together
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All right. We were talking about this literally last week. Yeah. Yeah, I
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Check who needs to get it together. I think this was better. I think this was better
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He qualified fifth and he finished
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Sixth, I mean if Hamilton doesn't get the penalty
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I think I mean, I think he's down by like eight. I don't know. I think Mercedes was so bad this week
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I mean Hamilton started in 14th Hamilton did
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I did Hamilton did he climb Russell though? Yeah Russell was a little and and Hamilton hit what they
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Hamilton was one of the few racers that pit twice and he still climbed up eight. I just
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did cool cool, but the fact that
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He was just struggling so hard with not not to hate on gasly
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But he was just struggling so hard to get past Pierre for a hot minute
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It just it didn't look like he he truly trusted the car to its full potential this week. I
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Don't think he could bring it to its full potential that's fine
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I'm not worried about the Mercedes going forward and I think check goes and it still be finding himself at the bottom there
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So you're gonna put them on the podium this week at Monza. I might put a Hamilton on the podium interesting. We'll get my yeah
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We'll get there. We'll get there
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We'll get there we'll get there back on Red Bull. Is there anything else we can really say about Red Bull?
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I mean if they're not finishing first
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I do expect max to be finishing second still unless you're Cole who's no longer taking max for his podium
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We're gonna hold him through that. I
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Mean is there anything else to be said about that? I mean max still as of right now
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He still has WDC he can get second every single race and still win it
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So something else needs to happen Oscar needs to get in there and not if Lando first ever I think so
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No, they just came out and said that really for this race going forward. I remember
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First every race going out. Mm-hmm. He'll win. I definitely remember that being a statistic before
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summer but I thought that was already broken but if that's the case then
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Because the race right before summer is what killed him because he finished like six or fourth
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So also real quick something that I found interesting
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After the race Horner also said that this is only even with Checos
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Struggles this year. This is only the fourth race this season that max is coming out with like points against him
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You know what I mean for the for the drivers championship that it's that it's gotten smaller that gaps gotten smaller
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It's only the fourth time the fourth time that he's not won the race
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No, no, this is only the fourth time that he's left with his
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Left a race with his points lead like reduced this season
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The fourth time he hasn't won a race this season no
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Is that is that to second place no, I'm sorry, I think this is for this is for constructors not drivers
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I have that up
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This is for this is for constructors championship
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Okay
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Ferrari p3 p5 great race from the player and arguably drive with the one driver today
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I agree. I agree. It was pretty close for it. Nobody's really talking about Charles's race
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or I mean even Carlos for that matter the Ferrari's race as a whole but
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What a bounce back for them coming right out of break and heading now into Monza you hope that they can kind of continue that
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I don't know if
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It's gonna be a struggle. I think for Mercedes
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Yeah, yeah, it sounds like a battle and I got I didn't look this up
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But the Stewart had text was texting us in the group earlier and said that Ferrari could be coming with some upgrades in Monza
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So this is their time, you know, like you're asking. Yeah, but he did not go Charles
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He didn't know he didn't he I don't think he believes in going to the next round
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I don't think he believes in going two in a row. I'm I mean spoiler alert for my podium predictions
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I'm going the exact same podium. We had this last weekend for my podium this upcoming
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No, I'm sorry for who actually won like who actually got on the podium this weekend. Yeah for sure for sure
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Yeah, I mean good to see them battling back I I do think we'll see what I'm curious what the upgrade is
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Do you because since you're brought up really quick here? Yeah, I'm curious what that upgrade is
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I it is like it's interesting
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We're seeing kind of Mercedes and then Ferrari kind of go back and forth a little bit
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But Mercedes is still quite a bit like behind them. I think in constructors
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So it's I think it's like the same gate gap as Ferrari
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Check really quick like 6070 but so at the end of this race at the end of the Dutch GP
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And we already touched on a little bit when you're talking about McLaren, but when Charles was
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No, it's like a hundred points from Mercedes to Ferrari
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Okay, okay, but at the end when Piazza is charging Charles was doing just enough. It seemed to stay out of that DRS
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He he was still racing hard at the end and the car was still keeping crazy pace with the McLaren
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And Oscar had pretty good pace all day. Yeah
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Let's say it'd be cool to see on their home track next week. I think we could see one. I think we could see one
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There's no way we're seeing both
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No both for ours. No no no way if you've seen anything of two
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It's orange
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That's not gonna happen either, but did you find happen to see their upgrades Joe
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Leclerc just confirmed there. They were upgrades. No one. I haven't seen anything that has stated what the upgrades are so
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Like every time they come out with something they go backwards
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Talking about a team that went backwards Mercedes
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P7 and P8 and to me like that's just disappointing like coming out of break, and you're gonna finish
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Seven and eight behind checko with how he's been performing this year again like you said Hamilton with the three-place grid penalty and climbed up
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And had to get through some traffic including gasoline yeah
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But he still had like a bad qualifying even even with the penalty Hamilton qualified incredibly incredibly badly
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Where did Russell qualify he qualified fourth? I think fourth or fifth so yeah, how do they practice did you?
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Just a replay of that crash yeah, yeah
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There was I think I want us like both all practice sessions had like like a little bit of rain in them
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So it was like weird kind of fine. I think the P3 or FP3 we finished like gasly boat
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Awesome another driver
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We never see at the top just because it was whoever got out first got like the fastest lap so but no nothing nothing in
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terms of Mercedes for for free practice
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but he just it was just simple as he could not hook up a final lap for qualifying to get out of q2 and then
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Yeah, salt to the wound for the penalty, but I think if he's in the top five going in on the starting grid
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I think he finishes on the podium
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I am a Hamilton still I think if Hamilton starts fifth. He's still on the podium
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For Dutch GP you name it going on you name it Monza to you
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He's got a lot of eyes in the future p5 or better. He's on the podium. Yeah. Oh yeah for the Dutch 100%
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I think if he's at p5. He's on podium interesting
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interesting
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With that I got nothing else to say about Mercedes. They obviously need to have a better showing this week
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I think they for Mercedes. They have to be at least check. Oh and Carlos. Yeah
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Two drivers. They should be beating right now
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With that I don't really have anything else to bring up with the Dutch GP other than I guess I kind of liked what the
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Astons were doing they were they were
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Consistent throughout the race and then right at the end they just couldn't quite I mean Alonzo got in there at 10th
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But guess they look great
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Casley did look great, and he was he was top 10 almost the whole race. He was holding his own
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He was battling it out. Did you guys see that the four-car overtake on?
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Was crazy
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Came on and he was like that is dangerous
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What just happened back there where yeah, that's right that was wild because the announcers were like oh this almost looks like Indy car
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And I was like yeah, I mean I you get those little tidbits of like the middle of the backfield just racing and they're like racing
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Kind of crazy and it's like whoa you're not getting any points right now
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It's kind of like it was kind of like you know on the freeway you got your speed limit
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Then you got the minimum speed limit and KMag was like doing the minimum
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They walked by him, but still going three deep into that first turn was kind of wild. That is wild
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It was wild. It's not a fun turn to go because like well. It's a kind of a snap
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You know right it's not far after where you're doing that NASCAR berm right I which I also love that burn
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Yeah, I love that berm is there anywhere else on the
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As a small
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No just on the F1 schedules or any other tracks I have any like any degree
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Spa kind of like the up the uphill
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I guess I also have what's that what's that track?
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There's always on Instagram where Hamilton came back from like p20 to win the race
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It starts off
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Forward than an s and it's like kind of like a berm coming down on the s
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Short starts and then an immediate s like a really hard chicane. Yeah, that's the next no no oh to the left
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Oh, downhill to the left, and it's a hard. Oh you go downhill so uh whatever
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I don't know
26:23
As you see we're we're getting back at it. You know
26:26
With that that kind of closes out the Dutch GP, and we'll head right into our news segment
26:42
And to start off our new segment
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Alpine of all of all teams
26:48
I'm going with Jack do hand
26:50
Do hand do hand do hand
26:56
Name hey at least I was right the first time, but anyway Jack do hand gasly's
27:01
New partner in crime perfect. We knew those coming. Yeah, I was gonna say who couldn't see that
27:06
I knew that was coming. It's gonna be exciting next year in general with all the new faces and all the rooks
27:11
You spoke about rookie enough on yeah. Yeah, yeah for sure with all the rookies coming in though
27:16
I'm pumped for next year. I think it's be super fun to see I wonder how many races you need under your belt before you're not
27:22
Considered rookie anymore like if you came in for like two races one season and then next season is your first
27:27
Oh, I'm saying like in the NFL your second year player wins rookie of the year
27:32
Who was it for NBA Ben Simmons was up here for like five years?
27:38
That's actually a pretty good point I
27:40
Personally consider it you get a you even if you don't do every single race you get like a season down
27:45
You're not a rookie anymore, but then like you have the case of DeVries right who came in at age 28 as a rookie
27:51
I guess of f1, but yeah, I mean technically he is
27:55
DeVries yeah, you're right
27:58
Here's here's my issue. It's got to be only one year you can be considered a rookie your first year in because of the fact like
28:05
Lando Norris his second year like I just saw a breakdown of his points since he started his first season he got like
28:11
59 and then it's just been a climb and then like two years ago fell off and now it's like now
28:17
He's he's scored more points, or he's tied for the most points
28:19
He's ever scored in an entire year already this yeah at 237 or whatever you know what this season is for Lando or 204 a
28:28
Fluke
28:30
I can't even say all right. I can't say I was trying to be funny anyway um let's go on to Williams
28:37
Obviously we already touched on Logan Sargent no longer having to ride an f1 that we also saw that coming for a long time
28:50
I could have obviously he's not getting the seat at the end of the year
28:53
I would not have guessed he would have been kicked out midseason though. I don't think
28:57
Honestly, I don't think he would have been kicked out midseason honestly
29:01
I don't like I just don't think they would have had the guts to do it really
29:05
Wreck this week it at all just that in general
29:08
I just don't think Logan would have been kicked out like it wasn't it didn't if what he didn't foresee it happening
29:12
Oh, I did not foresee no, but I like that that point
29:29
But the reason I love that they did this is I think it builds a pressure that hey this happens still yeah
29:36
Hey, check. Oh figure it out. Mm-hmm. This happens still right. This is a top-tier sports
29:41
Why are we dilly-dallying so long?
29:44
You know like when it happened in a long leash for a long time
29:48
But when it happened in Nick DeVries everybody was like yeah, right?
29:52
What are we doing get him out of here?
29:53
And it was even crazy when most of us started watching f1 four years ago when we had all the swaps with
29:59
Ghastly albon in the Red Bull. That's when it's fun now. I feel like it's been so like quote-unquote soft
30:06
Where if you're gonna see you're like, okay
30:08
I got a paycheck this year to see if I can get another paycheck next year. No, you're in the pros
30:12
Now you're in the big leagues get him out
30:15
We waited too long for sergeant Logan's going to Indycar. Yeah, and you know what?
30:20
Fine. Yeah, he'll still do better than Grosjean. He doesn't have to be in this though, you know
30:25
No, yeah, yeah, you should have got four or five races and just cut pot. I agree
30:29
What's interesting is that they approached?
30:32
Horner about and Red Bull about maybe trying to get Liam Lawson in the seat
30:36
Which I thought would have been probably a win-win right with the
30:41
Right. Yeah. Yeah with the stipulation that Red Bull could take Liam Lawson back at any time if they needed him for whatever
30:48
That would have been a win-win. Yeah. Yeah
30:52
That's interesting though, right
30:54
Because you wonder
30:57
Because William shut that down
30:59
Right William shut down. I don't know. I thought it was
31:03
I didn't realize it was that way. I wonder if that's Papa bear telling them. No, we're not developing their driver
31:11
Mercedes well and and then after the fact is and after the fact is when Toto came and brought Mick to them
31:17
Yeah, it was like whoa, here's Mick and then Mercedes was actually like well actually never mind
31:22
Yeah, say he's is one that backed out of it probably because they figured out that they're gonna put
31:27
Frank Franco Franco Franco in the seat. Well, there's arguably better drivers that have come from
31:32
Williams than the racing bulls
31:34
So if you want to start somebody off give him half a year to see and then get him into the racing
31:38
That's right. I wish Antonelli was going there. I mean you got Russell you have
31:43
Are you talking from people from Williams?
31:45
Russell, Botas
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Botas, thank you
31:51
I was looking at you like come on dude
31:53
But he had to take the easiest one
31:55
Russell
31:57
You know
31:59
And then the other point I wanted to bring up relating to that was Red Bull only has and I I just saw this
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I don't know how much truth of the there is to this and obviously I've been on the money tonight
32:10
But Red Bull has allegedly until September 15th to figure out a new deal with Liam Lawson
32:17
Really that seems rather quick. Well because
32:20
That is interesting because didn't Horner just come out and say that Liam Lawson will be in a Red Bull next year
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Did he? There's no way he said that. Did he? I don't think he would have said that
32:29
They saw the empty spot. They saw the empty spot right?
32:33
For VCarb
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Yeah, I thought he said something like I thought it was almost inklings
32:39
I thought it was almost inklings though that Lawson might be in a Red Bull next year
32:44
Not a racing bull
32:46
So Red Bull was the one that blocked Lawson to Williams
32:49
Okay, interesting
32:51
With saying we have our own plans, which I don't know that could be literally anything
32:57
That means Max Verstappen's dad has taken Chekhov's spot
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Out of retirement
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No, I thought maybe I could probably read that too, but I thought in that same article potentially wherever you're at that
33:11
They had until September 15th to decide on Liam per his current contract
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Yeah, they could easily just extend them right and then slap them in a VCarb
33:19
You're right though
33:21
Who's he reserved for?
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He's reserved for VCarb
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I think it is VCarb specifically
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I don't know who's reserved for Red Bull, but it's not him. He's VCarb
33:31
Real quick, we're on the news right now
33:33
What seats are remaining? We have the Audi
33:38
Mercedes
33:39
And Mercedes, that's it
33:40
And racing bull
33:42
And VCarb
33:43
Yeah, VCarb
33:44
Technically VCarb
33:45
I think those are the three though
33:47
Mm-hmm. Do we see Danny Rick going somewhere for another year?
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Not somewhere else. I think if he comes back it's gonna be in that VCarb
33:55
You don't think Audi takes him for a year to take two vets?
33:58
Who are they gonna develop at this point? Who's what?
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I think he's going to Mercedes
34:02
You're saying only for one year?
34:04
Until they become Audi, the Audi worksheet?
34:06
I could see that I guess
34:08
So Kimi goes to Mercedes
34:10
Right?
34:12
Allegedly
34:13
He's going to Mercedes
34:14
Lawson goes into the racing bulls
34:17
You have Ricardo and Vettel that you're looking at for the other Audi spot
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Ricardo and Vettel
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Vettel
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Bottas
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Or and Joe
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Don't forget Joe's there too
34:25
Or Vettel
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Who could be?
34:27
We talked about this last time
34:28
Joe could still absolutely be that second lie
34:30
Joe could be the second seat because he has a lot of money
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Oh really?
34:33
Yes
34:34
China
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He does
34:36
What did he just say?
34:37
China's debit card
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Kind of, I think he does
34:40
For that sport of F1 for sure
34:42
I heard he brings in a lot of money for the teams
34:44
So like in terms of sponsorships
34:46
So you got that right?
34:47
And is he that much worse than where Bottas is right now in the same car?
34:50
Yes, he's definitely not good
34:52
No I agree with you, he's not heading back
34:54
He's not heading back, he's not heading back
34:56
By average, he is the lowest average finisher in the races so far this year
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Below Sargent
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Yeah but where Sargent crashes, Joe just doesn't finish well
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He's not expensive which is good I guess
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Right?
35:10
Would it matter?
35:11
He's got China's debit card
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Yeah I guess it doesn't even matter
35:17
Yeah that's a good point
35:18
I always assumed, I never even thought about Danny Rick
35:21
I just don't think Red Bull is going to give up Danny Rick
35:23
I think he's too good for their PR
35:25
I think they're going to keep giving him money to be a reserve driver if anything
35:28
If you're Danny Rick would you take a Red Bull reserve seat over going to a full time seat in someone else?
35:33
I would like to think no F1 driver would do that
35:35
Meaning Audi or, he's not going to Mercedes
35:37
No, it's Kimi right?
35:39
Only going to Audi, I just don't see that
35:41
But again, don't him and Kimi have beef?
35:46
Or not Kimi?
35:47
Who am I thinking of?
35:49
I don't know
35:50
Oh you mean Nico?
35:51
Nico, I don't think so, they were teammates for a while
35:53
And they seemed to get along
35:55
I don't think so
35:56
No? They're okay?
35:57
I mean Nico and K-Man
35:59
They definitely are because they had the whole joke
36:01
Nico, you can be
36:03
Yeah yeah yeah
36:04
I was going to say it, they were like, I mean Danny just best buds with everyone
36:07
That's not a bad line up to get back together
36:09
They weren't horrible racing with each other in Renault
36:12
Just two season vets
36:14
I wonder if Ricardo would push back and be like, I need a two year deal
36:17
I want that first year in the Audi car too
36:19
He should, he definitely should
36:21
Interesting
36:22
I'd even think about Danny Rick
36:24
I still think there's a better chance of him in the V-Carb next year again
36:27
Even though Red Bull keeps coming out and saying V-Carb is not a spot for veterans essentially
36:33
This is our young team, this is our B-Squad, this is the grow up to come to Red Bull
36:38
Just because we're on the conversation
36:40
Let's say the Red Bull seat, the Checo seat is not taken by Checo right now
36:45
I think most of us are in agreement that it's not taken right now
36:48
I don't think Checo's coming back next year
36:50
For 2025
36:51
So who takes that seat then?
36:53
It's going to be one of the people in the V-Carb, it's going to be either Yuki or Danny
36:57
You don't think Doohan has a shot?
36:59
Doohan?
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No, Doohan's in Alpine
37:01
Not Doohan, sorry, who am I thinking?
37:03
Oh, I don't know who
37:05
Larson?
37:06
Liam Larson
37:07
Oh, Liam Larson
37:08
Probably not in the Red Bull
37:09
I think they want him in V-Carb no matter what
37:11
2025, give him a year
37:13
I think in a perfect world they'd like to give Yuki another year in V-Carb too
37:18
In a perfect world, but if you have to pull Checo, I think they'd have to go Yuki
37:23
Or if you're just getting rid of Checo's contract and be like, good luck fella, then it's Danny Rick
37:31
Off the bench
37:32
Yuki's got to be one of the most consistent guys so far this season, right?
37:38
I agree, I just have a feeling
37:40
But he's also never won a race and Danny Rick has won what, five?
37:43
I just...
37:44
Yeah, something like that
37:46
I just have a feeling
37:48
So this brings up, we had this conversation
37:50
I just don't think they like Yuki that much
37:52
I agree, I agree
37:54
I just think Red Bull doesn't like Yuki that much
37:57
I don't know why, I just, I don't know
37:59
I think I'm with you there
38:01
I think we were talking about this exact same thing last week as well
38:05
So there's an F, I think our current F2 leader, Isaac Hedger, is a Red Bull Academy driver
38:12
So they also have a rookie that they can pull if they really want to as well
38:16
So would they do that over any of those drivers?
38:19
Probably not for Red Bull, but
38:21
Would they like snuff?
38:23
I mean, they could do it for Red Bull, it would be crazy, but
38:26
That would be some of the toughest decisions in sports
38:29
There's so little spots, dude
38:31
Hey, add the other team
38:33
And as Red Bull, you can't really mess it up
38:35
You can't, there's not enough time to mess it up
38:38
Unless you put Checo in there
38:39
That's why they're probably sweating with Checo right now
38:41
But I still think, I said last week, give Checo three races
38:46
Here's week two, I think it was a good starting point
38:50
Wow, good starting point for race one out of break
38:55
There needs to be improvement though
38:57
You need to be P5 next week now
38:59
So I don't know, we'll see
39:01
Real quick, this isn't really that much news, but I thought it was kind of funny
39:06
So I'm going to say it anyway
39:07
The next three things really aren't crazy
39:09
But the Haas trucks weren't allowed to leave
39:13
How do you say, Zandvoort?
39:15
Zandvoort right away after the race
39:17
Like normal they would start driving Sunday night to get to Monza
39:20
Well, they couldn't
39:21
Because they had not paid up, is it Yurokali?
39:26
Yurokali, yeah
39:28
This was Mazda Spin, that was his dad's pretty much company I think
39:35
The Russian sponsor
39:36
The poop farmer
39:37
It was not, yeah exactly
39:39
And I heard, kind of because one of my friends had been following it really closely
39:43
He likes all the Haas drama with Gene and stuff like that
39:46
Sure, is that all that presses for us to talk about Haas more?
39:49
Yes, well no actually that's a different one
39:52
This guy is, yeah no
39:54
This guy is just paid by that guy
39:56
Yeah exactly
39:58
So it was sponsorship money that I don't think they had to give back
40:05
But they definitely were not like, they were keeping it after they were dropped
40:08
No I think they ended up having to give it back
40:10
Oh yeah they did, yeah
40:11
The 100% they did, once they got into that position the company came out and was like
40:16
Hey, we're not letting you leave until you give us our money back
40:19
Yeah, like they had people show up and start auditing all their gear and everything
40:23
So they knew exactly what was at the track
40:25
And we were like yeah you can't leave until you get us your 9 mil and we need a 2021 car
40:30
Yes, yes
40:31
Which they gave to them
40:32
What are you going to do with that?
40:34
So they're probably already in Monza now that we're recording
40:39
But they were able to leave around the road
40:42
But I thought that was way too funny to not bring up
40:46
The car thing really threw me off
40:48
What are you going to do with that?
40:49
He's rich, he's a billionaire maybe?
40:52
Oh yeah, crazy rich
40:54
Yeah that's gotta be
40:55
He's just going to go race the Russia track since it doesn't get used
40:59
True
41:00
Mazepin has a souvenir from his bloody battles
41:04
I should give him one of the crashed cars that he spun out
41:08
Here's one of your kids
41:10
The front fins all over the side pods are shattered
41:14
Okay, moving on
41:17
Renault really wants Alpine to keep running their engines
41:20
Believe it or not
41:21
I wonder why
41:22
They, Renault, believe that their 2026 engine is
41:26
Quote, loaded with potential
41:29
Heavily urging Alpine to not go to Mercedes
41:33
What have we seen recently from Renault that would make you want to be like
41:37
Oh for sure
41:38
Other than like, it's your country right?
41:41
Who's the guy that used to be the president for Renault?
41:44
The team principal, the one that was on DTS
41:47
Cyrus? It wasn't Cyrus was it?
41:50
Ciro, Ciro, Ciro
41:53
Ciro, Ciro
41:54
Ciro
41:55
So you were on it
41:56
This just seems like the Renault stuff
41:59
Like back then that you saw on Drive To Survival here saying
42:03
Where they were trying to get Danny Rick to stay and all that
42:05
And they're like, don't trust, we got the engine, we got the engine this year
42:08
That's what I mean
42:09
It's the same thing
42:10
How many empty promises have they already got?
42:12
Get them out of this sport
42:13
So it's just like Alpine wants to compete
42:15
And their power unit continuously fails them
42:19
So it's just like, I don't know, I don't think they're going to Renault
42:23
Do you think they even consider it?
42:25
No, they're better off linking up with Hyundai at this point
42:28
I definitely think
42:29
They go for it
42:30
Dang, dang, that's bogus
42:34
That's insane
42:35
Yeah, they have to start the cars with a USB stick
42:37
It's a little weird
42:38
But that's, I think the only reason you
42:41
If I were in their position knowing how unpredictable that engine can be
42:45
The only reason you consider staying with them is outside of F1 factors
42:50
They have, Alpine has a car made, I think made by, like made with a Renault engine
42:55
So they have partnerships outside of F1
42:57
And if they get rid of that engine supplier
42:59
That probably severs some of those contracts, some of those partnerships
43:02
So I think it's just a larger kind of question that they have to face
43:05
Interesting, I didn't think about that
43:07
But if we were just thinking solely F1, yeah, I mean, come on
43:11
I wonder if they even keep, I'd imagine they keep the Alpine name
43:14
But I just, you know, Renault and Alpine are so closely stacked together for me
43:17
So would they though?
43:18
We're getting BMT back or whatever
43:20
But would they though?
43:21
VWT, Racing Point
43:23
India Force
43:24
Yeah
43:25
That's interesting, would they keep the Alpine name?
43:28
You're probably right
43:29
I wonder if they would have to rebrand if they go with a Mercedes
43:32
Now we got the AMG team
43:35
Yeah, I think Alpine is like the sports car of Renault
43:39
Yeah, you're right
43:40
Just like, you know, Corvette
43:42
Never seen one here
43:44
Oh yeah, I mean they're a European car
43:46
Yeah, they're all driving the wrong side
43:49
The last little bit of news I guess that I thought was funny
43:53
Do you guys know of NASCAR obviously?
43:55
Do you know who Kyle Larson is?
43:57
Yeah, I saw this
43:58
He's one of the better NASCAR drivers out there
44:00
You know, he's won a championship
44:04
And he's a good dirt racer too actually
44:06
Real good dirt racer
44:08
He's good in the car
44:09
But he came out and said that he is a better all around driver than Max Verstappen
44:15
And when it was brought up to Max in some interview or whatever
44:20
Max was just kind of like, okay
44:24
And I love that response because it's just like, well I'm kind of at the
44:27
I love NASCAR, I'm a NASCAR fan
44:29
But Max has kind of like got the edge
44:31
He's like, well I'm kind of at the top level of racing that you can get
44:35
You know what I mean?
44:36
I think F1 has superior to NASCAR
44:38
And again, I've watched NASCAR my whole life
44:40
But if you're talking all around
44:41
Like you're talking dirt, dirt, everything, snow, everything, all the elements, right?
44:47
He might not be far off
44:48
The reason why, hear me out on this
44:50
Okay, this is not a crazy take
44:52
I just watched an interview recently
44:53
But if somebody has to say this is not a crazy take
44:55
Before they say they're crazy take
44:57
I just watched an interview recently
44:59
With Lewis Hamilton
45:01
Saying that he does not drive at all
45:03
Unless he was behind an F1 car
45:05
He's like, I don't drive
45:07
Yeah, but that dude's loaded
45:09
I wouldn't either
45:10
You don't think Max is?
45:11
I mean, I guess I drive
45:12
You think he's driving around?
45:13
I drive a little bit
45:14
You think he's taking a little Jeep Cherokee off roading?
45:16
Who, Max?
45:17
Yeah
45:18
No, dude
45:19
He could
45:20
Kyle Larson?
45:21
Kyle Larson's fighting for every dollar he can get out there
45:23
200 grand a year, that guy's out there in his Jeep Cherokee
45:25
Just tearing it up in the bay
45:27
Just ripping
45:28
Yeah, this guy's driving all over
45:30
I don't think it's a diss to Max
45:32
And it's a weird brag for Kyle Larson
45:34
It's just a weird thing to come out and say
45:36
But like
45:37
I genuinely don't think a lot of F1 drivers
45:39
I think they know what they're driving
45:41
I don't think they drive all, I don't think they care
45:43
They're like, yeah, I'm going to focus on this
45:45
Because it is the most elitist racing
45:47
And I think like, I like Max's response too
45:49
Because whatever
45:51
It's like
45:53
All they do is drive these cars
45:55
They don't care about the other stuff
45:57
Well, and it's the same thing, right?
45:59
If Kyle Larson got an F1 car, he's not beating Max Verstappen
46:01
I believe if Max Verstappen got in a
46:03
Cup car right away
46:05
And went out and raced, he's not beating Kyle Larson
46:07
He's not
46:09
Kimi Raikkonen did okay
46:11
But he also did not beat Kyle Larson
46:13
You know what I mean
46:15
All around
46:17
It'd be an interesting concept
46:19
You know what it is
46:21
It's LeBron James going to
46:23
This is going to be an aggressive take
46:25
Usain Bolt, and saying I'm a better
46:27
All around athlete than you
46:29
Yeah dude, no duh
46:31
I run straight
46:33
You're 6'9
46:35
And you dunk behind your back
46:37
What are we doing here?
46:39
That's the kind of take it is
46:41
No, I hear ya
46:43
I have no stake in this
46:45
Because I don't watch F1
46:47
I don't watch NASCAR
46:49
But it is just a weird thing
46:51
You should, it's a good way to nap
46:53
Is it? Oh, good to know
46:55
I got Monaco for that
46:57
It is a weird thing to bring up
46:59
I almost wonder if it was brought up
47:01
Because Max had that comment
47:03
About he's had 200 races
47:05
This Dutch Grand Prix was his 200th race
47:07
We didn't even bring that up
47:09
It's his 200th race
47:11
He says he is not going to be here
47:13
For the next 100 years
47:15
He says he is not going to be here
47:17
For the next 200th race
47:19
You're going to race another 200
47:21
How many is Lewis at?
47:23
I'll check really quick
47:25
He has way more obviously
47:27
He's at over 400, is he?
47:29
How many races has Lewis Hamilton
47:31
Raced in?
47:33
He's raced in 347
47:35
Is he going to be here for another 200?
47:37
No, he says he doesn't want to
47:39
He's not racing until he's
47:41
As old as Lewis though
47:43
I almost wonder
47:45
If he's going to take a step
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Into other racing
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Like motor sports
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Because he does his
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It's e-sports
47:55
I've been there, done that, I've won the WBC
47:57
Now I want to go do some rally
47:59
I could see him doing some sports car stuff
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Like IMSA or whatever
48:03
I could see him doing that
48:05
He would just be
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If he stops racing F1
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He would be sitting behind his computer all day
48:11
And he would probably succeed at that
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Yeah
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Sure
48:17
With that, let's go talk about
48:19
Monza Kills
48:21
And heading right into our Monza preview
48:23
Of course we got Joe
48:25
With what he has
48:27
And he's going to be
48:29
Racing in the WBC
48:31
And he's going to be
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Racing in the WBC
48:35
And he's going to be
48:37
Racing in the WBC
48:39
And of course we got Joe
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With what happened last year
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Take it away Joe
48:45
Yep, Monza's coming up
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The second Italian Grand Prix of the year
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Really the Italian Grand Prix
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Is what Monza is
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The other one is like the Emilia Romagna
48:55
This one is the Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Premio
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Di Italia 2024
48:59
Much easier to say than the last one
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So much easier to say
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That one had Emilia Romagna in it
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It also had Di Italia in it
49:07
Much easier to say
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So the Italian Grand Prix
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Has been featured on the F1 calendar
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Since the 1950 season
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The first season
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With Monza home to every race
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For Italy apart from 1980
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Where Emilia took host
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And then eventually they both became
49:25
Racing on the calendar
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Because they're both awesome tracks
49:29
I love both tracks so much
49:31
Monza is usually the shortest race
49:33
On the F1 calendar
49:35
Michael Schumacher crossed the finish line
49:37
On the last lap in 1 hour and 14 minutes
49:39
Whereas usually we're seeing them
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Go up to an hour and a half
49:43
It's a quick one overall
49:45
Looking at last year's race
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A lot of Ferrari representation
49:49
On the starting grid
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We had Carlos, then Max, then Charles
49:53
This was the race
49:55
Where before the lights went out
49:57
Before everyone got to the starting
49:59
Their starting positions
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Sonoda had to pull off the track
50:03
As he had an engine issue
50:05
On his way to the lights
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So he didn't even DNF
50:09
He just did not start
50:11
Once the lights went out
50:13
Both Ferraris got a decent start
50:15
In the front end second row
50:17
Keeping Max close in between both of them
50:19
As they approached that first tight chicane
50:21
Sainz was able to hold off
50:23
The lead to Verstappen while Charles
50:25
Had to defend against Russell
50:27
On lap 2 Albon was able to get ahead
50:29
Of the McLaren of Piastri
50:31
This time last year
50:33
Currently 7th and 8th at the end of that lap
50:35
Lap 5 Max was able to get a slipstream
50:37
Off of Sainz on the long straight
50:39
And turned alongside him into the chicane
50:41
But was defended off track
50:43
And kept in the second place a little bit longer
50:45
On lap 14 we saw Perez overtake Russell
50:47
As they both went wide into the first chicane
50:49
And went off track
50:51
He gave the position back immediately
50:53
Knowing that he gained the position off track
50:55
On the very next lap Max makes another
50:57
Attempt on Sainz for first place
50:59
And gives the position after the next straight
51:01
And then Perez got ahead of Russell
51:03
For 4th in the lap after that
51:05
Perez's day got better on lap 32
51:07
As he took the final podium position from Leclerc
51:09
We had a couple of fights between Piastri
51:11
And Hamilton later in the race
51:13
As they fought for 8th position
51:15
One of said fights ended in disaster
51:17
For both drivers on the curved straight
51:19
After the first chicane where Hamilton
51:21
Attempted to overtake Piastri
51:23
Until the very last minute
51:25
Hamilton looking for the best line
51:27
Bumps into him causing both of them
51:29
To lock up slightly and go off track
51:31
Piastri's front wing came out of that
51:33
Damaged, he had the pit and falls back to 14th
51:35
Place after getting the replacement wing
51:37
Perez continues to prove in this race
51:39
Why he might still have a seat as he clears
51:41
Sainz for second place on lap 46
51:43
And on the final lap of the race
51:45
Sainz in 3rd, Charles in 4th
51:47
We hear the Ferrari team radio state
51:49
Free to race, no risk
51:51
Free to race, but no risks
51:53
Immediately after that radio call
51:55
We see a huge
51:57
Lunge from Leclerc right before the
51:59
First chicane on Sainz
52:01
Trying to get into that last podium position
52:03
But he locked up, cut the chicane off track
52:05
And ended up right back behind him again
52:07
So our final was Verstappen to Perez
52:09
Sainz to Leclerc, Russell to Hamilton
52:11
Albond to Norris
52:13
And then Alonso to Botas
52:15
This made Max's 10th consecutive win
52:17
Breaking the all time record of 9
52:19
A few other driver callouts
52:21
Perez made his way from 5th to 2nd
52:23
Was able to hold in the top 10
52:25
Only shifting from 6th to 7th
52:27
Botas took the last point position
52:29
And Ocon was the only driver to DNF this race
52:31
As again, Yuki technically DNS'd
52:33
Yeah, that was Monza last year
52:39
I think we could see a repeat
52:41
From, sorry for the long
52:43
But the brain had to catch up
52:45
You know what I mean
52:47
But I think we could see a repeat
52:49
From Ferrari potentially
52:51
In the 3-4 spot
52:53
I mean, that's where they finished
52:55
Right? Last year 3-4
52:57
God, but
52:59
Where's Oscar fit into that
53:01
That's my problem
53:03
But, cause I think
53:05
I think Max will still be up there
53:07
Not if you're Cole
53:09
But I think Max will still be up there
53:11
But I mean, I look at
53:13
A guy like Lewis and I mean the dude has
53:15
Every reason
53:17
To also be up there
53:19
After last week's performance
53:21
It was just so off putting
53:23
After they went into break
53:25
Strong, and then coming out like that
53:27
Flat, and hopefully that's just
53:29
You know, they just had to get warmed up
53:31
But, I don't know
53:33
I don't know
53:35
It should be Ferrari's track to lose
53:37
It should be, it should be
53:39
It's not that way this year
53:41
But, who are you thinking?
53:43
Who feels good?
53:45
I think I said this earlier in the episode
53:47
And now I'm kind of going back on it a little bit
53:49
Hold on, do you want me to give you points updates?
53:51
Yeah, let's do it
53:53
So, Tyler
53:55
Cleaned house last week
53:57
Got all three right, Lando, Max, Charles
53:59
Ridiculous
54:01
So he leads us with 30 points
54:03
Cole only got one point
54:05
But he stays
54:07
But he stays in second place
54:09
He holds on to second place even with one at 29
54:11
I grab two
54:13
So I'm at 27
54:15
And Cole also grabbed two
54:17
Which moves him to 23
54:19
What is Tyler at? 30
54:21
That's only one above me?
54:23
That's only one above you, correct
54:25
You guys, you were one up last week
54:27
But with his three and your one
54:29
I was in first for a week?
54:31
It looks like coming into last week you were
54:33
Thanks for the shout out
54:35
Hey, Cole was in first last week
54:37
He's not anymore
54:39
So
54:41
Joe
54:43
You need the most help here
54:45
It's so true
54:47
I need so much help
54:49
Oh, our bonus points
54:51
So how we're going to do our bonus two points
54:53
Is our bonus two points? I can't remember
54:55
Our bonus is two points
54:57
Our bonus this week is where will Chaco finish?
54:59
Hold on, there are options
55:01
Please wait, there's more
55:03
One through five
55:05
Six through ten
55:07
Or is Chaco not even top ten?
55:09
Those are your three options
55:11
So you got
55:13
I'm saying there's a chance
55:15
You have a 33 point whatever
55:17
Six, six, six, whatever, seven chance
55:19
Percent chance, whatever
55:21
I don't do math
55:23
None of us do here, let's move on
55:25
Joe, what's your podium?
55:27
We started at the top
55:29
Yeah
55:31
Tyler let us know
55:33
Chato multico de sai
55:37
He says
55:39
He's going
55:41
Because he does not believe in repeats
55:43
He's going Lando
55:45
Max Oscar
55:47
For his three
55:49
Lando
55:51
Max Oscar
55:53
I'm thinking in that order but we don't do that
55:55
And the Chaco special?
55:57
And the Chaco special
55:59
Good point, he says six through ten
56:01
Six through ten for Chaco
56:03
A pretty fair place
56:05
You're going to have to go crazy on the Chaco one I think
56:07
I think everybody's going to go
56:09
Six through ten
56:11
Is it me? Sure
56:13
I'm going to do Lando
56:15
Laclaire
56:17
Hamilton
56:19
No Max
56:21
Max is gone
56:23
And then I want six through ten
56:25
For Chaco
56:27
Hold on, I screwed something up here
56:29
Lando, Laclaire and who?
56:31
Hamilton
56:33
Lewis
56:35
I want the Chaco at the six through ten
56:37
Go under six through ten, yeah this one might be too easy
56:39
Because I'm going that too
56:41
I'm also going six through ten
56:43
So Joe
56:45
It might not be a bad move to put him
56:47
Out of the top ten
56:49
I'm kind of thinking the other way around actually
56:51
Top five?
56:53
I think if he does anything this week that's the one thing that I'm like
56:55
He could go five
56:57
He didn't have a bad race last year
56:59
The Red Bull is obviously
57:01
Way worse than it was last year
57:03
But I honestly feel like
57:05
Six through ten is where he's going to be too
57:07
But I should do something different
57:09
Sadie's looks good, top ten
57:11
Yeah, Monza does it that huge
57:13
Straight
57:15
I'm going Lando
57:17
Max, Laclaire
57:19
Lando, Max, Laclaire, same as last week
57:21
Correct, I believe in two
57:23
Weeks in a row buddy
57:25
And I do believe that Ferrari will have
57:27
A Ferrari on the podium I hope
57:29
And it's Laclaire for my sake
57:31
It could very well be Carlos too
57:33
I think that Ferrari can put a car on the
57:35
With the upgrades and that's the thing
57:37
Like we've already stated today
57:39
Like the upgrades so far this year
57:41
Could be mental
57:43
No, so
57:45
I hate how good
57:47
I hate how good Sianz and Laclaire both are
57:49
Because I never know which one to pick
57:51
One of them is going to do better
57:53
You just never know which one
57:55
Where are you putting them?
57:57
Yeah, we're putting Checo
57:59
I really want to go one through five
58:01
But like if I get one through five
58:03
Wrong, I got to keep pace with them
58:05
I have to go six through ten
58:07
The problem is if I put them one through five
58:09
I have to put others outside of fifth
58:11
Which means with my podium
58:13
That would be
58:15
Mercedes pretty much
58:17
You could go six through ten and we all get bonus points
58:19
I could
58:21
It doesn't help you at all though
58:23
You're dragging
58:25
I am, so bad
58:27
My initial was the same as yours
58:29
It isn't anymore, I've changed something
58:31
My initial was going to be Lando Charles Max
58:33
The only thing I'm going to change is instead of Charles
58:35
I'm going to say Sianz because that is different
58:37
From pretty much everyone
58:39
You're right, you just never know
58:41
You just never know if it's going to be either
58:43
Charles or Sianz, they're both fairly equal
58:45
To be the person who qualifies better
58:47
Pretty much
58:49
Lando Max Sianz
58:51
I don't hate that
58:53
Do it
58:55
Pure pressure
58:57
I mean if you want another battery instead of Mercedes
58:59
This might be the one
59:01
I'm going to say one through five and he's going to get six
59:03
And I'm going to be pissed
59:05
Yeah because we're all getting
59:07
Two points on that garbage
59:09
And I'm going to fall way behind
59:11
If you really want to take a chance you put Cheko on the podium
59:13
That's
59:15
No
59:17
I'm already like a little
59:19
Iffy about Max, I just think he's
59:21
Max right, so he's probably going to do okay
59:23
That's what I mean
59:25
I can't feel cool on this
59:27
Cheko, my heart's telling me
59:29
To go six through ten
59:31
But for the
59:33
Content
59:35
I'm doing this for you
59:37
One through five, let's do it
59:39
See I thought you would have gone outside of ten
59:41
Wait, let's do outside of ten
59:43
Screw content, I'm so
59:45
Far behind
59:47
Now if he gets you on outside of ten
59:49
So you think ten to twenty, or eleven to twenty
59:51
Yeah, I guess
59:53
I like that more than one through five
59:55
If you look at the statistics
59:57
Throughout the year you have better chances
59:59
You're totally right, but he takes one bad
1:00:01
Round of the quality
1:00:03
He really didn't do badly this year
1:00:05
He's going to go flying through the chicane and hit the wall
1:00:07
And we're all going to be like
1:00:09
Now I'm going to be even more angry
1:00:11
If he gets six because he was closer to one
1:00:13
Through five
1:00:15
That's going to make me so angry
1:00:17
Oh my god
1:00:19
The reason why we decided to
1:00:21
Talk about Checo is we actually had
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1:00:35
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1:00:37
Because that was a really good idea
1:00:39
All the help he can get
1:00:41
Call now, 1-800-FAST
1:00:43
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1:00:45
1-800-FASTLAPS?
1:00:47
That's not going to work, that's too many numbers
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Fast Lap
1:00:51
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