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98 The Trickster Demon of Oklahoma: Why the Air Turned Ice Cold! · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the I Tube of the podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host Dom Franklin. This week we had on ashes Antics.
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  Speaker 1: He has multiple YouTube channels, the Boom Boom Room seven
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  Speaker 1: seven seven. He also has a gaming uh a gaming channel,
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  Speaker 1: so go there and check out all his things links.
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  Speaker 2: In the description below.
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  Speaker 1: So he came on and he told me about you
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of things that happened in his life.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he lived in a house where there I
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  Speaker 1: basically think it was a trickster type entity that was
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  Speaker 1: like looking like but mimicking other people in the family
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  Speaker 1: so that the children of the house would like go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and trust to like kind of listen to this thing.
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  Speaker 1: There were some other weird experiences. I think he's also
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  Speaker 1: had an encounter with a big foot. It screamed at him.
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  Speaker 1: He felt a chill in his side of his body
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  Speaker 1: when it happened.
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  Speaker 2: He was walking on his.
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  Speaker 1: Land one day and you know, it's hot summer in
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  Speaker 1: the late evening and all of a sudden, you can
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  Speaker 1: see his breath in the air. Just a myriad of
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  Speaker 2: So I hope you guys enjoyed this episode with Ashes antics.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Tom, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know do you even have a real name.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a real name, but I go by Ashes.
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  Speaker 3: I mean not that I'm hiding anything, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: usually tell people, but I just go by Ashes enough.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I reached out to you and you were so
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  Speaker 1: kind to say, yeah, I'd definitely like to come on
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  Speaker 1: and talk to you about some my experiences. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: do me a favor, man, introduce yourself a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about yourself and where my
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  Speaker 1: listeners can find you or well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on YouTube and my main channel I call
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  Speaker 3: my main channel, I guess because I've got the most subscribers.
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  Speaker 3: But Ashes antics. This is my shirt on on my
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  Speaker 3: shirts here. My buddy made this for me. But it's
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  Speaker 3: a gaming channel and I like the game and laugh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I do live streams and drop shorts.
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  Speaker 3: But about a year ago I started my podcast channel
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  Speaker 3: and it's called it's Stare at the Bottom and that's
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  Speaker 3: how you find it. You got to type in at
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  Speaker 3: the boom boom room seven seven seven. But I mostly,
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  Speaker 3: you know, have encounters on there. I have people with
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  Speaker 3: big footed counter supernatural encounters and also interview different content
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  Speaker 3: creators and I tell like folk for orities. Each week,
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  Speaker 3: each Sunday, I drop a premiere and I'm going through
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  Speaker 3: state by state, you know, alphabetical order. But I've been
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  Speaker 3: really really enjoying, you know, doing both channels. It keeps
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  Speaker 3: me busy. But I am retired, so.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean that's at least doing something
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  Speaker 1: that you're you know, that you enjoy. And that's always
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  Speaker 1: been like a mantra I have over here. Whatever it
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  Speaker 1: is that you're doing, if you enjoy doing it, then
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  Speaker 1: do that. So that's really cool. So you uh so
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  Speaker 1: you we were talking a little bit of backstage. You're
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  Speaker 1: a you're a mod over at Jim Powell's The Night Watch.
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  Speaker 1: You've been on the Daniel Hamilton's Crypto channel there and
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  Speaker 1: uh yeah, so uh where does this begin for you?
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  Speaker 2: Where would you like to start?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Uh, I guess I could start from one when
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  Speaker 3: I was a kid, and uh with this encounter here,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I've thought all my life. I guess we're
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  Speaker 3: free to talk about anything on here. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 3: there's certain key words that you two doesn't like.
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  Speaker 4: But other than that, oh well, yeah, I know it
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  Speaker 4: and real but uh, you know when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 4: I think I was about seven or eight, And uh,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't tell you before the start.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Romani. I'm English Romani. And what that is if
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  Speaker 3: some people don't know your listeners, that is what English.
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  Speaker 2: Gypsy right right exactly? Which is which is Tyson Fury?
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  Speaker 2: Is that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah he's uh he is Irish and uh yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: I had a cousin sell his uh his aunts in
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  Speaker 3: real estate in Florida, but uh, yeah, I don't know him,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but yeah, he's he's kind of put the
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  Speaker 3: Gypsies on the map there for a while, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of people don't know that. Uh. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of famous Gypsies too. Charlie Chaplin was one,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And uh and my niece through her dad
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  Speaker 3: is actually kid to Charlie Chaplin, she done like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, one of those DNA things and she yeah
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, Uh, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: was tough growing up in a small town in Oklahoma
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  Speaker 3: being that because there was a lot of prejudice, you know,
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  Speaker 3: believe it or not. And there still is. But I
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  Speaker 3: talk about it a little bit. But sometimes, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't I shy away. I shouldn't be. I'm proud
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  Speaker 3: of who I am because God made me that way.
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  Speaker 2: No, but growing up in.
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  Speaker 3: The you know, culture, it was a little different. But
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  Speaker 3: the reason why I'm saying all this is my grandma.
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  Speaker 3: She used to tell fortunes, now was she. I never
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  Speaker 3: really talked to depth with her. But she died when
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  Speaker 3: she's one hundred and two years old in twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 3: And she had one hundred total grandchildren you know, like
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  Speaker 3: great grandchildren.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a big family. But anyway, long story short, not
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  Speaker 3: a long story short, A long story. Long story is
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  Speaker 3: I grew up in Oklahoma and the county I grew
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  Speaker 3: up in was lafora county which is notorious for you
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  Speaker 3: know encounters, you know, bigfoot encounters and cryptic encounters, you know,
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  Speaker 3: eastern Oklahoma, and I grew up, which right now, I'm
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  Speaker 3: only like ten miles from there. I'm living in Arkansas,
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  Speaker 3: and that's right on the line of Oklahoma Arkansas. But
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  Speaker 3: Laflora County has something called the Spiral Mounds and it's
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  Speaker 3: we live three miles from it, and it's supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be I don't want to butcher anything supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: over two thousand years old Cato Native American burial grounds,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of various things happened when they dug
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  Speaker 3: it up and moved to artifacts from there to Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of mysterious you know, people died, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and stuff. But anyway, I've had a lot of family
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  Speaker 3: and friends had a lot of paranormal and cryptic things
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  Speaker 3: happened around that, you know. Just I've always heard even
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  Speaker 3: the old timers, you know, they would say this land's
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  Speaker 3: cursed and all that. I wouldn't pay attention to him
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  Speaker 3: when I was a kid, you know, or a teenager.
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  Speaker 3: But what I was going to tell you is my
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  Speaker 3: uncle he was a preacher, you know, he was like
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  Speaker 3: a Sunday school preacher, you know, real, you know, close
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  Speaker 3: to God, religious forever you want to call it. I
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  Speaker 3: grew up in a Christian home, but my grandma she
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  Speaker 3: quit telling fortunes and in the sixties because she got
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  Speaker 3: saved and she thought it was wrong, you know. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a very devout Christian woman and close to God.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: My mom was real spiritual. And my mom said she
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  Speaker 3: would see thanks here and there. She told me one
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  Speaker 3: time that she come to my brother's room and he
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  Speaker 3: was out that night partying, and she looked above his
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  Speaker 3: bed and seemed three like monkey de demons, you know,
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  Speaker 3: hovering over his bed. She told me a few things
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  Speaker 3: like that and my uncle. I don't know if this
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  Speaker 3: ties into my first thing that I can remember as
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  Speaker 3: far back, but I would. I was always scared of
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  Speaker 3: the dark until I got older, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Scared.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I slept on the floor beside my mom
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  Speaker 3: and dad's bed, and my dad he had MS multiples
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  Speaker 3: grosses and he died. Tick Down was a real young
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  Speaker 3: fifty six, but he was in the Navy, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he was a veteran. He was air traffic controlman in
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  Speaker 3: the Navy. And then you know, my mom took care
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  Speaker 3: of me, my three brothers and my sister. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: i'd sleep, you know, on the floor because I'd be scared.
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  Speaker 3: But I remember that my uncle was telling my mom this.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: He would always come down and drink coffee, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes have prayer meeting or whatever you wanted to call him,
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  Speaker 3: talk about the Lord or just talk about with everything anything,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, as kids and being in the background
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  Speaker 3: kind of listening, but would be in the same room.
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  Speaker 3: But I remember he was saying that he had this
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  Speaker 3: little creature come to him, you know, he woke him up.
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  Speaker 3: It was a real small creature. He never really described it,
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  Speaker 3: but he kept saying I would. I laughed about it,
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  Speaker 3: really and I laughed about when I got older, But
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  Speaker 3: he said it was it was calling me mama, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And you know I thought that, you know, which I
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  Speaker 3: like to laugh anyway by a lot of stuff. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I believe you gotta be funny,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and laugh things off. But sure, sure, I
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  Speaker 3: would just remember him telling me that. But anyway, I
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  Speaker 3: was getting into my deal about seven or eight years old.
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  Speaker 3: The whole point of that is my mom and my
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  Speaker 3: uncle always would have supernatural stuff, you know, happened to him.
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  Speaker 3: And when I was seven or eight years old, now
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  Speaker 3: my whole life, I always ought this was demonic. Now
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it isn't demonic. It's just in the
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  Speaker 3: last year, since I've really been going down the rabbit
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  Speaker 3: hole with cryptics and everything, I think that this might
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  Speaker 3: have been what they call a little person because they
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of encounters in eastern Oklahoma with little people.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know, but you know, something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, something small.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I would sleep with my stomach and you know, I
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  Speaker 3: thought this. I think about just every since it's happened,
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  Speaker 3: you know, forty eight years old. I've never stopped thinking
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  Speaker 3: about this, and which I'm not afraid. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: real close to the Lord, you know, and I know that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's power in Jesus Christ, you know, blood
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  Speaker 3: of Christ. So I got control over everything through him.
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  Speaker 3: But I remember that I was sleeping on my stomach
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  Speaker 3: and uh, something jumped on my back, physically jumped on
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  Speaker 3: my back. It started shaking me. No, on the floor,
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  Speaker 3: in my right, right, right right, okay, and it physically
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  Speaker 3: shook me. So I you know, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: I had paralyzation sleep paralyzation around because because I've had
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  Speaker 3: it before, you know what I mean, yes, several times.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, I try to wake my mom up, she
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  Speaker 3: won't wake up, she said, it just go back to
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  Speaker 3: sleep at a bed. Jay was not a dream, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But I do remember this because where we lived, it
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  Speaker 3: was like right off a highway, a little two lane highway,
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  Speaker 3: and uh, it was like a half circle of gravel
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  Speaker 3: road didn't went to another highway that went to into
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  Speaker 3: the Arkansas River, which was three miles away where the
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  Speaker 3: Native American burial grounds were. But uh, that half sir
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  Speaker 3: circle were lots and mobile homes on it, and every
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  Speaker 3: one of these my family owned them. So this was
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  Speaker 3: all her own land, you know. And but the point
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  Speaker 3: of this is is one that goes into my other encounter.
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  Speaker 3: As I remember waking up and I had to pee
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  Speaker 3: later that night or something, and I remember I walked
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  Speaker 3: in the bathroom and had a little small window, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in a mobile home, and I looked through there and
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  Speaker 3: my grandma, the one that was you know, died real old.
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  Speaker 3: She had a little RV there, like a thirty two
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  Speaker 3: foot RV. She'd live in and uh, there was a
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  Speaker 3: little path between that and there was a storm cellar,
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  Speaker 3: you know in Oklahoma, and he had a lot of
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  Speaker 3: storm shit.
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  Speaker 2: Right because of the tornadoes and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad made that. And I remember I seen
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  Speaker 3: this creature walking the path, you know. It was the
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  Speaker 3: same night, and all I can remember is he it
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  Speaker 3: was furry from like waist down, you know, I said,
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  Speaker 3: he yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How cohold was that?
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  Speaker 1: If you had to describe it by two two foot tall?
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  Speaker 3: Small?
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  Speaker 2: Real small? Okay? What did it looked like?
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  Speaker 3: I could not see its face? You know, I've told
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  Speaker 3: this before, and I've tried to because I know what encounters,
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  Speaker 3: you try to put them out of your mind and
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  Speaker 3: then later on, like me, if you start pulling out
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  Speaker 3: that rabbit hole, you try to you know, think, think back,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, and you don't want to make nothing up.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you know right, I got you, man.
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  Speaker 3: But because you know, I'm not out here to like
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  Speaker 3: some people, to get no fame or none of that
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  Speaker 3: b es you know, I just want to tell my story,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And uh, because for years I've not told
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people. In the last year I have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because a lot of people think you're nuts,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Even spirit field Christians or
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  Speaker 3: people that's had certain things happened, they still think you crazy.
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  Speaker 3: What y'all have got to the point in my life,
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  Speaker 3: I don't care what people think. You know, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to be me.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: But all I can remember is fur, just brown fur. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Was he was it a demonic imp? Was it a
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  Speaker 3: little person wearing something? I don't know. I mean he
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  Speaker 3: had to get in there some way. If he got
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  Speaker 3: in there, it had to be supernatural for in the
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  Speaker 3: first place.
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  Speaker 2: How old were you when this happened?
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  Speaker 3: Seven or eight?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so that's yeah, that happened. I had my
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  Speaker 1: both the guys encounter when I was eight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was over a few day period. So it's I.
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  Speaker 1: Always have a hard time putting the things in order,
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  Speaker 1: so I understand trying not to make anything up either.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's difficult.
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  Speaker 1: It's imple to remember back I was about thirty something years.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to do. Yeah, it really is.
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  Speaker 3: And you know that's about it. With that, But and
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  Speaker 3: another thing that happened to me, I'll kind of start
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  Speaker 3: an order of my you know, my pro property. When
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  Speaker 3: I was fourteen, my first cousin's grandma. She with my
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  Speaker 3: grandma because it was his mom's grandma. She passed away
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  Speaker 3: right in front of me. I was coming from you know,
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  Speaker 3: my friend's house, and she fell over and had a
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  Speaker 3: heart attack. You know, she dead instantly. That kind of
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  Speaker 3: shook me. Yeah, it was I never forgot it. It
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  Speaker 3: was blood on the cement for so long. Wow, because
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  Speaker 3: she fell down and she grabbed a fence. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean she I'm not trying to get graphic or not,
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  Speaker 3: but she was dead. I mean as soon as she
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  Speaker 3: hit the ground. You know, we had neighbors run over
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  Speaker 3: and try to put an eight tral glisten und her tongue.
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  Speaker 3: She had a massive heart attack. But anyway, uh, probably
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  Speaker 3: that had when I was fourteen, probably about thirteen, fourteen
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  Speaker 3: years ago. If anybody knows about Oklahoma or Arkansas, when
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  Speaker 3: it gets hot in August, it's freaking hot, even at
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  Speaker 3: eight or nine o'clock at night. You know, you're sweating,
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  Speaker 3: sweating like a dog. Well, we was walking from my
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  Speaker 3: mom's place to hit to his place. Now his place
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  Speaker 3: was a mobile home and probably by four mobile homes
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  Speaker 3: down from my mom's place, which you know, the little person,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you want to call a thing happened. Well, his
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  Speaker 3: place was right beside his grandma's that passed away. Now
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  Speaker 3: does this have to do anything with his grandma? I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. But anyway, we're walking. It's about, I say,
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  Speaker 3: about eight thirty nine o'clock at night, and it's burning
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  Speaker 3: up August heat. Well, we're walking and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: it gets so freaking cold. Did I start blowing smoke? Well,
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  Speaker 3: he looks over at me, and I look over at him.
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  Speaker 3: We're both blowing smoke, and he says, Jude, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I said, dude, do you feel that? I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: so cold, cold to the bone cold. You know, I've
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  Speaker 3: never been cold. And I started walking a couple more steps.
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  Speaker 3: It probably the whole thing probably had seconds, you know,
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  Speaker 3: enough to look at each other and say that right, right, right,
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  Speaker 3: and then it went away, And you know, I thought.
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  Speaker 2: That was pretty really weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't understand, like when you're in the like
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  Speaker 1: like I'm down here in the Yucatan Peninsula. Dude, so
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  Speaker 1: it's hot here now, it's I mean it's when it's
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  Speaker 1: eighty five degrees as a high, that's a cool day.
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  Speaker 1: That's like a winter day here, so like when it's
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  Speaker 1: in the evening and it's hot. I mean, the shirt
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  Speaker 1: is sticking to you can bring it out and you're
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  Speaker 1: not doing anything but thinking, and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden to be able to see your breath in the
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  Speaker 1: air that's freezy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy, It was pretty crazy, man, absolutely. But I can
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  Speaker 3: get into some paranormal stuff. But while we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: that land, like I said, it's like a half circle
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: and then you go to the highway where you go
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: on up probably a block and there's a bunch of
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: other mobile homes, okay, And what most people called it
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: because there was a bunch of families that lived there,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: was they called it the gypsy camp, you know, because
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of us lived there, you know, I
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: mean it's what everybody else called. But uh, I had
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: a he was he was uh my brother in law
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: for a while, but he had a brother. I know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: his brother would mess with a lot of black magic
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that when he was kids. You know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: we played with Luigi board and depend on no yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I already know that, but we was kids. But anyway,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: he told me this for years, but I haven't seen
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: him in a year, but when we was kids, he told
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: me that one night he was asleep, and I remember
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: his mobile home was up higher, you know. I guess
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: they do that to level it out. It was pretty high,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: because I remember I'd come up to the window and
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: my head would be you know, like about right there,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: you know. And I was probably five foot ten or
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: eleven at the time. And uh, he said that one morning,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I mean one night, I'm sorry, he smelled something drink.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: And I remember in his bedroom, even if you're sitting
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: in the bed, you can look his door, and then
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: you can see the window down the hall, you know.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: He said, he stood up and looked, and he said
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: the whole window was filled with something black, and Harry
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: had two red eyes looking through the window. Ohka. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: he swore, he swore it was bigfoot. And I wouldn't
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: laugh at him. I said, yeah, man, I wouldn't pay attention.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: You know. I thought he was just lying my whole
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: life until later, you know, until happened to me. Because
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: my whole life I always thought I already knew that
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: they're supernatural. I know that there was you know, there's
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: demons and angels. I know all about that the paranormal,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: but Bigfoot always thought it was some undiscovered ape. But
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: now I think totally different, you know, Okay, I think
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: that they can be flesh and blood when they're fleshing blood,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: and they could be supernatural when they're super natural, like they.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Can choose them so they can kind of choose in
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: which form they present themselves.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I really that's that's just my opinions. You know, people
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: have their own opinions.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: What I'm trying to do, I'm just trying to make sure.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Oh I know, I know, but I was checking my
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: sugar deal. My sugar goes a long I to eat something.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: But anyway, I'm a diabetic type two. But uh, anyway,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: what happened to me was twenty eleven and I'm trying
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: to draw a picture here from my mom's about four.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: This was on the straight line road. Like I said,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: it was a half circle. And uh, I remarried my
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: second wife and we bought a new bob home in
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: twenty eleven. And right around the elbow of the curve
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: did her dad owned some land. We put a mobile
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: home on it. Okay, but once you look and the
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: elbow the curved, it was my uncles of my dad
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: built a church years ago, but somebody burned it down,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: you know, and it was going. You know, it was
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: just a foundation and there's some woods, not a real
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: thick like white patch of woods, but it was enough
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: that when we were kids, we could walk into woods
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: and go all the way three miles two and a
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: half three miles to the river in the bottom, so
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: you know, you could stay hidden in them woods. And
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: some spots were thinner than others, you know. With wise, Well,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: it was twenty eleven and I come out on the
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: front porch. I was smoke all right, Okay, I hear you.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I still hear you.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's have a little bit of a mexicanf
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Internet difficulties. You were talking about the church being no worries,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you talking about the church being burnt down.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: There was a foundation, there was a foundation left, and
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: there was wood, you know, and it went all the
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: way to you know, the Arkansas River, which was close
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: by the Native American Burial graph. Because we were kids,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: we're stay in the woods playing, you know, and all that.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So it was twenty eleven. It was about two thirty
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: three o'clock in the morning, and I was smoking at
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: the time, you know, I don't smoke anymore of vague,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: but I went on the porch, and I smoking on
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: the porch. Well, I remember that the moon, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: was pretty bright, you know, you could pretty well see
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: a lot. And uh, I started hearing something crashing through
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the woods. And I'm sitting there smoking and I'm looking.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: So I'm thinking it's, you know, somebody on a mule
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: the side by side or a four wheeler coming through there.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: At first, but I didn't hear any I didn't hear
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: a motor. And then it started getting louder. And tell
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: you what it sounded like. It sounded like a freaking
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Volkswagon beetle coming through there without an engine, or freaking elephant.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: So I'm looking and I'm start seeing these smaller trees
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: start moving, you know, and if these things crashing and
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting here, probably the whole thing, maybe ten seconds,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: maybe the whole encounter. And I say, I'm about anywhere
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: from fifty sixty yards to the to the woods, you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: and didn't open and where that old concrete's there. So
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting there smoking, I'm saying, what is this itop
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: making a sound? You know, everything you know how your
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: mind said, what's going on?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Is this whatever? So anyway I see it, crash it,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, still thinking it's on you. I'm still thinking
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: it's a side by side. I'm still thinking it's gonna
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: come out. You know, somebody's gonna come out, you know.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: It to opening. We got close to the opening and stopped,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: and it stopped for about two seconds, and I'm saying, man,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: what's going tom it roared and when it roared, uh,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: A shell shot me. Man. Yeah, I felt my whole
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: inside my guts. I've been to nashcar races. I used
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: to go to funny car races, even any car races.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Some funny car top fuel those kind of yes. Right,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So that was give people a little bit of reference.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Like my father used to go to Redding, Pennsylvania. Yeah,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: so give these people a reference. You can go ahead
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and tag on later. This My father says, when you
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: go there and you watch the races, you don't see
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the cars are about half the three quarters the way
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: down the track because your eyes vibrates so much movement
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: on the ground. He was talking to a gentleman there
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and they say, yeah, we lived down the hollow or
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: down the bottom of the valley about a mile away,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and when they have the races, when they the races,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that the knickknacks and the woman's cabinet would rattle. So
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: to give the people a reference, if you've been there,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: so so continue. I'm sorry. That was just that was
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: really that was a great way to describe it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Man, that's excellent way to describe That's all the way
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I could describe it. But my guts, every orifices of
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: my body shook and a chill shot me. I remember,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I just couldn't move, you know, And then, you know,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I think I would have reacted different now, you know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: if it happened right now for what I know and
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: kind of knowing. But the only thing I remember is
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I walked in and I started praying, and that was it.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I don't remember nothing else. I just woke up the
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: next morning, so it's like a lost time. Yeah, oh wow,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: my memory. I cannot remember nothing else.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, did you wake up in the bed
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: or on the floor I.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Woke up into I woke up into a Yeah, it
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: seemed like I went in there and started praying. I
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: don't know if I grabbed the Bible or what, which
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: you know, I knew God, but I'm not as close
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: as I am today, you know, because I was in
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: a messed up marriage and stuff at the time, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: but I had a lot of stuff happened to me.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it I don't. It's like I lost time,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and I've tried to remember. I've tried to go back
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and remember things. I just you just don't.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you go out that You go out the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: next morning to where you heard the roar and go look.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: No, because I thought it was demonic. I just brushed
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: it off of something demonic because I had a lot
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: of demonic things happening, you.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Know to me, and stuff, you know, and with the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: riding on the floor and the coldness in the air,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and that's that's cool.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean these are yeah, these are different times though,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: all these are different times, you know, right, right, right right.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: But that happened at twenty eleven because during that time,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: when I was married to my second wife, my ex wife,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I uh saying this creature and uh uh coming through
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: my door one night, and what it was it was
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff going on in the marriage, you know.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: But I saved this Christian stick its head through my door.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: You know, it was dark one night I was in bed.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I woke up and uh, I don't know if I
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: was had a vision of this thing or if it
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: was I believe in spirit it was there or what.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: But and what's funny about this? And this thing had
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: big giant tea red eyes. Real it wasn't It wasn't
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: a Sasquatch at all. It had a big head, real
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: hairy head. It had big hands, but it was real
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: skinny through here. And it had no hair or anything
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: on its arms. I remember that about it. And it's
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: like or whatever, like gray this was a demon because
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: let me tell you, And it would kind of look
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: through the door. It's all I seen, you know, And
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: for about split second. Well anyway, uh, for people that
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: don't you know, know when you pray to God, you know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: the Lord will some you know, sometimes talk to you subconsciously.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I guess that's the only way I can put it
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: without sounding crazy. If anybody's you know that praise a
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: lot or anything. But at the time, it was like,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: the Lord told me that that was a dope demon.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: He told me that was a dope demon that was
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: trying to get in my house. And here's what's weird.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: I won't mention the preacher. There's a preacher from Tennessee.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I was watching him like two years later and he
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: was telling a story of very lot. Some people like he,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: some don't, but but he was very famous preacher. He's
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: telling the story that he goes to this guy's house
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: and this guy was an ex pastor and the guy
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: was had a drug demon in him, you know, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: he said the demon spoke to him and said I'm
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: gonna get you next, you know. So he goes home,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: he sees the demon in his house coming at him,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: and it was and he described it to a t exact,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: down to a t, what I saw.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was just total confirmation right there. Total yeah. Yeah,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: that blew my mind. But the Lords always showed me things,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: you know, like three dreams. I've had dreams of people
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and they've come true, you know, and even even tragedy,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, Lord showed me stuff. But yeah,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: that's that's kind of what happened on the land there.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what happened to me. I lived
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: in this house for about six years. This was four
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: years ago. That being Max's girlfriend. When I met her,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: she had an old house, you know, when we were
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: together six years and long story short, we ended up
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: selling it and buying some land. But you know, we
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: ended up broke up and I moved out or whatever.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: But anyway, when we were living in this old house
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: and it had to be built in nineteen twenties, just
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: an old house you know, in town, and there was
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of paranormal things happened. Well i'll tell you
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: some of them. Well, her twin nephews came living with us.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: They were fourteen, another nephew fifteen, and her niece. And
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: what happened is the stepdad was, uh when just treating
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: them right, you know what I mean? And so we
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: raised them for about six years. Yeah, I wasn't like nothing,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: have no kids, man, no way, and uh, you know
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: it was tough and tight sometimes. But anyway, one of
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: one of the twins, well let me tell you this. First,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: her niece was in the side bedroom and she ran
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: in one day, well ran you know out in the
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: living room. Was in the living room watching TV. She said,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: why did you throw that that lighter at me? Aunt?
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I went throwing no lighter and she said, she said,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: that was you. It looked just like you. You know,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: we just thought it was a joke, you know, passed
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: it off.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: About a week later, her nephew wanted the twins was
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: telling us and uh, very sane kid, you know, nothing
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: mental wrong with him at all. He's say, you tell us.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: She said, there's a woman talking in my ear telling
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: me to do bad things. WHOA, yeah, I said, yeah,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I said, what do you mean, man, And uh, well,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: she's telling me to do bad things and she, uh,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: she looks like you know my aunt here.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Whoa, that's what they Yeah, oh that is a trickster
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: bro a trickster like demon, trickster thing where they look
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: like somebody that the way the kids are not too alarmed,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: but then they get them to do something against their
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: will or the will of God.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Better said, wow, really, I've never heard that a trickster.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they like to do things like that. They like
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to do things like that where they they'll throw things,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: or they'll put like they'll take your keys and then
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: put it in another place and you'll look for them,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you can't find them, and then you'll look back later
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and they'll be there. Things like that, or they'll they'll
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: take different forms and things like that trickster entity, that's
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: what they call them.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Really.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I know that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: We were sitting in there one night and the toilet
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: led slam and you know, you could say, well they
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: slam sometimes, but it done two times, you know, I
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: done two times. Yeah, And there was a lot of
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: stuff happened, but he went working with his dad and cousins,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I felt something evil because I
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: always would praying there. I pray in my house, you know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and I pray every day, you know, the Lord. But
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: you know I was praying one day and uh, no
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: this is when he was here, or no, this was after.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I'm getting ahead of myself. I'm sorry. I felt something neat.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I felt something evil. So I was in the bedroom
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: and this was a used to be a garage of
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: this old house, but it was in a bedroom now
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: and it had a little bathroom and only thing we
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: had separating it was just like a thin curtain, you know,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: because nobody'd come down. They're just a small bathroom. And
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I was taking a leak and I felt something evil,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: you know, and I say, the corner of my eye,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I've seen it, and it looked just like her look
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: just looked like my girlfriend at the time, but more
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: like the grudge. You know.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: It was real.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Fill had her same hair, and it had its head down,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: and I said, what do you want? And I'm waiting
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: on Michael. That was her nephew, the one that you've
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: been talking to. I'm waiting on Michael. Well, I come
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: out of there, and I started praying, you know, start
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: rebuking the name of Jesus. And while I got there
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: praying and praying, and the Lord told me that I
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: can run it out, but it had come back because
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: he got to denounce it. I said, oh, okay, I
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: get it now. Well he come home, I said, he down, said,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Michael said, what have you been doing? What have you
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: been messing with? And about third minutes later he tinally
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: told me it was the wigi board. He was with
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: his little girlfriend playing the wigi board.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yep, there it is. He opened the door to something.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Man open that door. Yeah, And we had we had
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of other things happened. One night, like it
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: was a step up into the kitchen, you know, the bedroom,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: the same bedroom, And I remember I woke up one
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: night and I looked over and I was it seemed
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: like I was getting attacked too, because I was getting
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: so closer to God. You know, the Lord was showing
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: me stuff, really speaking to me. You know. He told
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: me I'm gonna take you higher spiritually, and he did.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: You know, he opened my eyes up and I really
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: studied the Bible. I'm not smart at all, you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: but you know, the smartest thing I ever done was
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: giving my life to God, you know, and to serve him.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not intelligent at all, but I'll give
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: God all the glory. But I remember I woke up
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: one night and I seen these three shadow figures and
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: he looked like basically outline of aliens, It's what they
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: looked like. And he had these bulbs on their fingers
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: and all they was doing was moving their fingers like that,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: you know, and he never did speak. It was like
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: three figures together. It was the weirdesty. I'm telling you
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: some stuff happening in the house.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I would get the heck out of there,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: bro I mean, yeah, yeah, what we.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: End up sating, we sold it, you know, And I
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: think what happened with a lot of that is a
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: lot of some of the people living in there were
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: very demonic, you know what I mean, you know, doing
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: bad things, because there was a lot of stuff. There
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: was one my nephew came and stayed for a few
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: days and uh uh he got up. My ex said
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: it was him, but it wasn't seeing a figure looked
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: just like he walking around the kitchen. It was in him.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: You know. There was a lot of demonic things that happened.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Happened to keep wanting to imitate and like appear as
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: somebody that's in the house but a little bit different.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is this is the most h kind
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: of a shocking thing. And like I said, you know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: if you edited and you might have to edit it
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: out if it gets to I won't try to get
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: to graphic.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Do your best, man, do your best.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: And I've never I've never, I've never. I've never told
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: this on any podcasts, you know, because some of them
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: you get on there and you know, they don't want
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: you to talk about certain things that I respect that
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: you know. Okay, okay, But my ex girlfriend had a
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: long time friend about her age and uh we had
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: a backyard we live in town, and it was a
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: wooden fence around it. So she needed a place to
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: live and she had a little bitty camper, you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: so we let her stay back there, and you know,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: just you know rent, you know, pay a little rent.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: And I don't know what this has got to do
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: with the place. I think it's got to do more
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: with her, you know. I think she was dealing with
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: a lot of demonic entities, a lot, because one day
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I was in there and we was talking about the lord,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: and she'd come up, you know sometimes and visit. You know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: wasn't because the house when you walk out, you know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I had a little bitty driveway, and then you know,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: it was a little side street. But when you walk out,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: you can walk to the right around the corner. It
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: was a fence, and then you go in the backyard
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: was her camper, okay, and it wasn't that far of
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: a walk, you know, to go around. But she come
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: up here one day and she goes, you know, my
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: my back's been hurting and stuff. I said, won't you
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: let me pray for you? And I want to pray
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: for And her eyes got real big and she took off,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: you know, out and uh uh, you know, because I
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: understand people, some people have mental problems and they're not
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: all demonic. You'd be a chemical in balance, you know.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: But but people that was around her, even people that
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: won't spiritual, could tell something was it was off with it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: And like I said, I won't name any names, but
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: one time she come up there, she wouldn't talk for
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: a week or eat, you know, and uh, you know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: and just voices would talk to her. But here, here's
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: what I'm getting up to. I'll take a drink and
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: get draft. Yeah. Mom, sorry if i'm talking to you.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: No, man, it's no, I don't mean it that way.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I mean it in the way you're carrying the load,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. It's the other way. Ye're welcome.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: But I was slate, I don't know what.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: It was kind of early, and her nephew come running.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Come here, come here, you know, I'll just say her
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: her name is Tina, Come here, come. Here's something wrong
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: with Tina. I said, man, what's going on? You know?
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: So I'll get up just me, come on. She's in
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: the backyard. There's blood. I said, what are you talking about?
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: So I walked to the door. The Sinner's open up
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: the door. There's droplets of blood going all the way.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about it. There's like a trail of blood
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: going all the way in the back, you know, backyard.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: So I'm walking in the back and there's the camper
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: and I'm seeing blood all the way to the camper.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: So she opens the doors. What's going on, Tina, which
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: ain't her real name, what's going on? She said, I
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: cut myself. Well, I'm, you know, thinking that she cut
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: but she's bleeding out of her mouth, you know, So
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking that she hadn't ate something and didn't cut
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: her tongue.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: What happened. I take her to the hospital. What happened
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: is voices told her if she did not take her
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: eyeball out or cut her tongue out, they was gonna
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: off her children. She had, yeah, yeah, she had voices
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: was telling her that. And she took, like I said,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: you can cut some of this out, trying you know,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I pretty well know what to say it not but
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: a parent knife, okay, and try to cut her Yeah,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And it didn't work. So she took a box cutter.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: And if we didn't get her, yeah, if we didn't
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: get her to the hospital, she would have bled out.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: And I looked in her camper and it was bad.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: There was a little sink there. It was full of
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: colulated blood all and uh, she said the reason why
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: she couldn't get her eye out of hurt too much.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: She was trying to take a spoon to take her Yeah,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: so she was demonically possessed, and I tried, you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: we we she went to hospital and we you know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: tried to get her some help, you know, and stuff.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: And it's really a sad story, yeah, because, uh, what
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: happened about three years after that, she ended up offering
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: herself in the river. Yeah, it was a sad thing. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. There's so many stories like that.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: And however, you know, you can help some just you know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: people listening or watching this, how are you going to
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: hold for someone if you if if it's taking them
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: to church, taking to see somebody mental professional. Because I've
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: dealt with things too, man, I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I've melt with anxiety and war vets.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Things have happened.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I'm still fighting the VA try to get something. So yeah,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: if you if you see something like that, do your
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: best to try to help. I know, you know, the
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: world's a crazy place and we all have jobs and families,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But it could be something like
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you're saying, if that, if she's hearing voices in her head,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: who's to know what that is.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: That could be.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Something you know, mental, or it could be something external
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: that internalized or external that she's hearing. But that is
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: so it's basically it's been around you a lot. This yeah,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and this is all in the same basic community.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, basically not far. I mean as far as you know,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: where I grew up in the house is like ten
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: twelve miles apart. But the old house, man, there's a
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff. I think that demonic and negative energy
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: you know, can attach to a property or place for people,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: for sure, because you know, you go around, say, you know,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: it's just like two opposites. Man. You know, somebody's living
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: for God, you know, and good and then you got
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: this evil. It's just clashes wherever I go, you know, Okay,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and uh, but you know, I don't know if Bigfoot,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: you know, I didn't see Bigfoot, but if I had
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: to guess, you know, and a lot of people told
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: me that that was probably a Sasquatch you count right, well, yeah, yeah,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: because something roaring like that, you know, that sounds like
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: a lion and an elephant, and it's just there's no
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: way because black bears. There's barely any black bears around
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: there and there and they rare you know where I live, right.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it seems like it's been your whole life
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: where it's been like just one thing after another that
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: has found its way in your inner circle or around you.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: And I think it's a good thing that you that
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: you have been getting closer to to gone. That's a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: good thing for you, man. And if it helps you
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and it does good for you and your life and
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: your family and the people around you, man, that's a
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: very powerful thing.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Man. Oh yeah, I was gonna tell you. I was
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: gonna tell you another story too. Uh sure, I've told
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: this one. I've got a friend and uh we're down
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: where I grew up in Oklahoma, which is not far
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: from here, and uh those Native American burial grounds and
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: uh it's close by the Arkansas River and there's, ah
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: it's kind of a you know, old country, you know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: some farms and stuff. There's a black community there. I
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: know everybody there. Grew up a lot of you know
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: people in that community. And uh, there's a lady that
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: she doesn't live far from me. She lives in town.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: She's sixty five years old. And she's a good friend.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: And I've known her for probably twenty five years. And
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: her brother's a pastor you know here in town, pretty
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: good sized church. But she doesn't like to drive. You know,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: when I go out, I'll call her. And we got
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: good relationship. Hey you want you don't want me to
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: take you somewhere and stuff and you know, get you
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: some she dips that old snuff or take her to
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: get her a big red you know. Just a friend
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: and uh right right. But one day we were talking
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: a tango, was on her birthday, about a month or
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: so ago. We never talked cryptics, you know, at all,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: and uh, you know, we'll talk about God and stuff
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: because it's it just doesn't come up, you know, it's
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: just we don't talk about it. But one day I
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: was talking about it and she grew up dow I
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: those by those Native American burial grounds. If this, you know,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: just could be nothing the first story and could tell
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: you could be nothing at all. But she set she
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: is fifty. It's very short, you know. I just wanted
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: to add it since she was fifteen. Her her cousin
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: was out when was supposed to be out. I was
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: like twelve or one in the morning, you know, snuck out.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know what. She never told me what you're doing,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: but she said she was at the end of the
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: road fixing to go home, now far from home, and
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: she heard something growling. She looked back and she told me,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: she said, I got to tell you, it was the
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: biggest dog I've ever seen, looking wolf. She said, I
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: said what, And she's just telling me just because we
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: don't even talk about cryptis. I said, what do you mean.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I said, it was like a pit bull. She said, no,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, it was like a horse. It was
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: like a small horse. And it started growling, had red
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: eyes and what she told me the red eyes. I said, well,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: what did you do? She said, we just took off running,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: you know, and when we got home, we never looked back.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: And that was it. But she had other things happened
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: to her. She's telling me she'd see ghosts in the
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: house and stuff like this, But this is one of
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: the most freakiest things I've ever heard on fixing. Tel
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: said she was nine years old, and I guess she
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: was being bad and her mom made her go outside. Now,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was cold or hot, but
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I know she said it was at night, you know, okay,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: and I'm suming it wasn't real late. But I guess
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: in the yard she had one of those big propane tanks.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not thinking. I know, you know, thet big giant. Yeah,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: when you as a kid, you get on them and
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: ride them like a horse, she said. She said she
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: got on there and she was laying back on it.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: You know, man, I don't know if she was crying
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: or what, but she heard something and she she got up.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I know, she told me. She got up and looked,
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: and I know it's gonna sound freaky, but and she's
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: thinks she's about nine, thanks you, about nine or ten.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: She seen three scarecrow creatures and she said, all I
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: can tell you it looked like the mama, the deity,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: and the kid it did. It was three of them.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: What she might have been there has just been three
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: different sizes, I don't know. And she described them look
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: like a scarecrow, just down to a tate walking towards it.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: And I said, well, what did you doy? She said,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I ran and beat that door until they opened it up,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: got in look back they were going and she described
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: them to Hey, had to hit red eyes, and that
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: is that is that is.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think i've heard that one before.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I've heard that. I've heard of them at Kentucky. You know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: I've heard a scarecrow encounters in Kentucky, but you know,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: not here.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: If you think about it, dude, that has to you know,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: the just the idea of a scarecrow has to come
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: from somewhere, you know what I mean. Someone just doesn't go, Okay,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take a you know, like an old
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: flannel shirt and stuff it with some hay and put
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: it in the field. So the crows in the corn
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: that comes from somewhere, from somewhere, there's.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: A lot of that.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of Uh, it's a good mixed bag
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: of a lot of things.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Man, You've seen a lot of things.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely have. And you know, I've had a
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: lot of friends and family, you know, tell me things
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: that happened, you know, as far as uh do you know?
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I think you know, I've got friends that are paranormal investigators,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: you know, and uh, you know me and myself, I
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: won't touch a Wigi board. You know, No, I won't
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: touch nothing to because I believe that it's wrong, you know,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: to try to contact spirits and stuff like that, because
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: we do have power over over them in the name
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: of Jesus, but we're not supposed to open ourself up
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: to that, you know what I mean, right, and uh
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: and stuff? But uh do you know, Uh, I don't
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: know why a lot of stuff is had And I
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: thank God that you know, things have not happened to
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: me in a while, you know. Ah, I mean as
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: far as like you know, praying and stuff. The Lord
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: you know, speak to you, you know, but you know
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: you need to pray for this person or something like that,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: because we all got faults. But what gets me with
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Christianity and in church, you know, they don't want to
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: talk about you know, Genesis six. You know, they don't
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: want to talk about the Nephelim and more and the
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: more spiritual side of things, you know, because I believe,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: you know, this is me personal. I might be wrong.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: I just don't believe that there's ghosts. I believe there's
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: some kind of demonic things. You know, there's just good
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: and bad angels. That's just how I believe uh, like aliens.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe there is another race out there God created. I
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: don't know, but I think a lot of these encounters
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: are demonic, you know, I mean trying to disguise yourself.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: But who knows.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was trying to tell you with
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the whole trickster thing, that they kind of like want
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: to take the form of somebody else so that you
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: feel comfortable. Yeah, but this is this has been a
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: fantastic interview. I appreciate so much as you came on
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: momre time. Ashes could you tell everybody where they can
• 52:17
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• 52:18
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• 52:21
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• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Fantastic man. Stick around for a second, Ude, I want
• 52:42
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• 52:44
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Tom, I appreciate your having Thank.
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