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- 0:00Hello and welcome back to Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06Now when we think of hydroponics, many people will think of indoor growing,
- 0:11so growing in a grow tent, a grow room, or even a warehouse.
- 0:16But hydroponics also covers polytunnels, it can cover outdoors,
- 0:20and it can also cover greenhouses or glasshouses.
- 0:23We tend to say glass houses in horticulture
- 0:27even when they are not made of glass so
- 0:30today we're going to talk about choosing the right material for your
- 0:33greenhouse the skin and the skeleton so
- 0:36the skin where we think of that as the glass but
- 0:40could be another option we'll look at optimizing
- 0:43lights longevity cost and
- 0:46also insulation which is often not thought about so the
- 0:50first option is single pane glass standard and
- 0:53low iron options excellent excellent scratch
- 0:56resistance and lifespan they do last a you
- 0:59know decades if you treat them well and they are lucky that
- 1:02they don't get smashed in a weather storm or
- 1:05from your children hitting a
- 1:08football or somebody else is somebody else smashing
- 1:11them they will last a long time they transmit high
- 1:15quality light and with good
- 1:18clarity so around 98 transmission they
- 1:23have better insulation than some of the alternatives however they're not as
- 1:28well insulated as say you're double glazing in your house they have duller hemispheric
- 1:35lights and um cannot be drilled and they're heavy i don't know what hemispheric
- 1:40light is answers on a postcard please for that one.
- 1:43But yeah they can be cleaned though and they can be cleaned with some very aggressive
- 1:47chemicals so traditionally they would use some really nasty acids to clean them
- 1:51and make sure that there was no algae or,
- 1:55dirt build up on them and the transmission could stay at around 98% so that's
- 2:00what they do commercially on big glass houses and now they're starting to use
- 2:04drones to clean them as well so spraying the chemicals on.
- 2:09You could potentially use double paint or even
- 2:12double glazing with a gas filled option for
- 2:16added insulation however that is expensive and you'd really have to be a heavy
- 2:23use of expensive heat to make that worthwhile so that's not if you really want
- 2:28good insulation then you're probably going to use polycarbonate which is the sort of thing that you,
- 2:34you'll see it's got like a looks like a ladder side on
- 2:37it's used in the uk in in conservatory
- 2:41constructions and you can get opaque versions and
- 2:44transparent versions and for a greenhouse you want a transparent
- 2:47version the thing about this one is is it's um it's
- 2:50got good insulation because it traps the
- 2:53air in that twin wall panel it's also impact resistant
- 2:56so if you in an area where you know things are going to hit your greenhouse
- 2:59then you could then you'd struggle to get anything to go through it you know
- 3:05you can walk on this if it's secured in place you're not going to snap in two
- 3:09but it might come away at the seams that's the other thing to consider there's a famous.
- 3:14Story about a executive in a high-rise in new york and he took a load of his kids from his
- 3:22kids his kids go to school and they went on a school trip brought
- 3:25all the kids into this high rise and he was showing them the the
- 3:28skyscraper and he said look this glass is so strong
- 3:31if i ran up and jumped up against it it wouldn't break and
- 3:35he took a big long run up and he jumped up against it and it didn't break and
- 3:38the problem was it came away at the seams and he fell to his death in front
- 3:41of his kids and all their friends so yeah don't jump on a polycarbonate greenhouse
- 3:45because it may give way you see people walking on single pane glass house roofs
- 3:49and that someone scale of heights that does.
- 3:53You know scare me something that i would ever do i have
- 3:57a mixture in my greenhouse of polycarbonate for the roof and
- 4:00glass for the walls and it
- 4:03can be a good option if you if you know you're going to make it opaque so sometimes
- 4:10you put whitewash on onto the glass so that to diffuse the lights if you're
- 4:15going to do that anyway then polycarbonate could be a good option you could
- 4:18just get a diffuse version of that polycarbonate.
- 4:22It comes as standard for the likes of conservatories and side buildings and things like this.
- 4:28So polycarbonate could be a good option there. Also, if you don't want people
- 4:30to see into your greenhouse, rather than putting whitewash on,
- 4:34which washes off over time, you could use an opaque polycarbonate.
- 4:38Well, not opaque, but what's the word I'm looking for?
- 4:41It transmits light, but you can't see through it, whatever that
- 4:43one is frosted frosted that's the word you could also
- 4:46use one-way film on the glass
- 4:49however that's going to absorb a lot of light so you're not going to get anywhere
- 4:53near that transmission you would if you didn't have a filter on it you can use
- 4:57acrylic plastic to uses the skin of a greenhouse however acrylic or is known
- 5:04in the u.s plexiglass and it's lightweight excellent optical clarity,
- 5:09medium insulation, weather resistant, less prone to yellowing the polycarbonate,
- 5:15but modern polycarbonates don't yellow very much.
- 5:18However, it can go on fire. So you've got lights in there, LED lights or sodium
- 5:23lamps, then, you know, you know,
- 5:25you might struggle to get insurance for that. And you might want to consider
- 5:29that your greenhouse could go up in flames.
- 5:31Tends to not be used very often, acrylic really. Cheaper greenhouses tend to
- 5:36use acrylic. So that's something to bear in mind.
- 5:39You can use film or PVC coating, PVC options. So like you would in a polytunnel.
- 5:46Very low cost, very lightweight, very quick to install, but a short lifespan, one to four years.
- 5:53Not durable and they don't filter.
- 5:56Out uv so you might get lower yields
- 5:59but higher value crop they also
- 6:02get a lot of condensation on them so that's considered that drops down
- 6:05in your onto your crop and you can get gray mold now a
- 6:08really good option is like pv
- 6:11film or pvc that's into like bubble wrap
- 6:14like that you would get in packaging now
- 6:18a very very strong version of that is used in
- 6:21the uk a firm called keder k-e-d-e-r
- 6:26keder greenhouses are really strong and because
- 6:29they use this bubble wrap type reinforced bubble wrap type material
- 6:32to make sort of a cross between a
- 6:35polytunnel and a greenhouse they're like really expensive
- 6:39polytunnels they're not cheap but they
- 6:41are very very resistant to mechanical damage
- 6:45so they're used in like the really northern
- 6:48scottish islands like the shetlands and the orkney isles for growing
- 6:52crops up there where you know they can struggle for a lot of the
- 6:54year and their light transmission is not so
- 6:57much of an issue it's more insulation increasing the growing
- 7:01season without having to use heating
- 7:04and things like this expensive heating so cader greenhouses are something you
- 7:08know something that would be on my list of things that i would like to invest
- 7:11in a nice cader greenhouse they're really good for filming things in as well
- 7:15like just like a greenhouse much closer than a polytunnel we've got vertical
- 7:19walls. It's more like a green house.
- 7:22When it comes to the structural material, aluminium is now by far the most common
- 7:27type because it's lightweight and,
- 7:29corrosive resistant, low maintenance and clean. So you don't need to,
- 7:34and you can clean it easily.
- 7:36It's cost effective compared to wood, much easier to handle and assemble.
- 7:40It's got a lower thermal mass, which can be a disadvantage, can amplify internal heating and cold.
- 7:46So any, like if you've got a plastic cladding, then that could degrade when
- 7:52it's close to the aluminium.
- 7:54You could use galvanised steel, it's another option. It's strong and stable,
- 7:57ideal for large commercial structures.
- 7:59So like the really tall greenhouses you can
- 8:03anchor heavy glazing panels without bending
- 8:06however however it is by its nature heavier and prone to rusting without protection
- 8:10you know the galvanized will wear off and more expensive to install the traditional
- 8:16amateur material or even commercial material was cedar wood or redwood in america
- 8:23that was used mainly cedar in the uk.
- 8:26Provides some sort of natural insulation to a bit the
- 8:30reason why it was used is visually appealing a red
- 8:33cedar greenhouse looks great that's what i've got it's easy
- 8:36to work with and diy friendly it's rot resistant
- 8:39red cedar especially if you
- 8:41treat it but that could potentially leak leach chemicals
- 8:45and things like that uh my greenhouse is as old as
- 8:47me it was handed down to me from my
- 8:50father so i've still got the same greenhouse so it does last
- 8:53a long time it doesn't rot however it's has had
- 8:56a few things replaced over the years getting close to the
- 8:59end of its life now you could potentially have plastic or
- 9:02fiberglass greenhouses these would be at the
- 9:05low end low cost options they're corrosion corrosion resistant but they're just
- 9:10less durable they warp and they don't have good structural strength compared
- 9:14to aluminium steel or wood so you know i would probably if i was going for if
- 9:20i'm going to replace my greenhouse i'm probably going to go for a CADA which would be,
- 9:24aluminium poles with a.
- 9:27High-end plastic sort of
- 9:31bubble wrap filter on it if I wasn't going
- 9:33to go for that I'd probably go for an aluminium glass but with
- 9:37coverings on it to prevent the glass from breaking
- 9:40because I've got young kids that's something to consider with glass
- 9:43is that you know they are going to hit footballs and golf
- 9:46balls and cricket balls in my case at the greenhouse and
- 9:49so I have to put a plastic covering over the
- 9:52walls of my greenhouse and have a polycarbonate roof because of that because
- 9:57they don't want glass flying everywhere and obviously it's going to be harmful
- 10:00to the people near and around who get exposed to that glass and also if it goes
- 10:05onto the inside the greenhouse and you you've got potential for contamination
- 10:08of the crop and things like that.
- 10:10So that's something to consider so there's different positives
- 10:14and negatives a lot of people when they start designing their
- 10:17own greenhouse they start to look at acrylic and you'll
- 10:20see people with like making greenhouses out of old
- 10:23doors or old materials and they'll start
- 10:25using acrylic and things like this but they don't last long so really i'd
- 10:29really go for polycarbonate polycarbonate is harder to shape
- 10:33and than acrylic so it's you couldn't
- 10:36it's much more difficult to produce things like triangles or curves
- 10:39than it is in acrylic or glass if you
- 10:43go if you want to cut glass you can normally take them to a hardware store
- 10:46an old an old old school hardware store just phone up and ask them if they cut
- 10:51glass they'll cut it to any shape you want rather than trying to do it at home
- 10:55if you're not an expert in cutting glass then it can be expensive and dangerous
- 11:00so that's my thoughts on glass house materials.
- 11:05You could protect this potential for using films spectral
- 11:08films to increase different light levels
- 11:11that's been used in the past however now with led lights you
- 11:14could just put a tunable light in there to increase the the
- 11:18spectrum of a certain wavelength of light so
- 11:21something there to consider for both commercial and hobby greenhouses
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- 11:37on holiday to holland so hopefully one of the next few podcasts will be about the dutch,
- 11:42flower auctions which i'm hoping to go to because they're
- 11:45right next door to where we are staying so fingers crossed i'll get into one
- 11:48of those they're not cheap to go into i think they're about 50 euros so we'll
- 11:53see you have to get up really early which i'm not looking forward to either
- 11:56so but you know the early bird gets the worm when it comes to flower auctions
- 11:59so watch this space thank you very much for listening until tomorrow goodbye.