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Billions approved for geoengineering in shocking NDAA vote · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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We've learned anything from these past couple of years, my fellow Americans is that personal medical freedom and liberty are in crisis.
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American pulse brings together the top experts in health care related fields to keep you up beaten ahead.
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
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This is Dr.
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Clayton J.
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Baker MD on the America Out Loud Pulse program on the America Out Loud Radio Network, Liberty and Justice for All.
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I have a good friend and fellow geoengineering warrior on again today, Babushka.
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And we're going to talk today about the National Defense Authorization Act, which has just gone through the House.
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It's a highly controversial bill that has not yet been signed into law, but it involves military appropriations.
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It's an absolutely gigantic funding vehicle, totaling around 900 billion dollars.
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That's billion with a capital B.
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And it's got somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to 15.4 billion dollars earmarked as best we can tell for geoengineering among many other things.
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It's highly controversial for that and for a number of other reasons.
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And I'm gonna ask my good friend Babushka to tell us what she knows about it, bring us up to date on what's going on and what we need to do to continue in this battle to stop the spraying of poisons over our heads every day by our own government.
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So welcome, Babushka, and I hope you're well.
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And tell us what you know about what's going on with the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act.
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Thank you, Dr.
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Baker, and thank you for having me on for a second time to your podcast.
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Today was a very busy day on the House floor.
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It was very confusing for a lot of us.
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But um, what did happen is the House brought HR 3838 to a full vote today, but they changed it into a it's called a procedural swap, where they take both bills.
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So it's HR 3838 and S.2296.
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They sort of put them together and made a compromised bill, and they put it under an old bill that and just gave it a new name, which is now the NDAA for 2026.
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So they voted earlier in the day on it, and it did not go through due to five um representatives, one Bershet, Anna Paulina Luna, Marjorie Taylor Green, and Thomas Massey.
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And then later in the day at 524 p.m., they did vote on it again and it was passed.
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So it's passed and it does not get voted on again because it it's been superseded by the compromised um S.1071.
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And now it goes back to the Senate.
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They have to just approve what the House amended in it, and then it goes to the president's desk.
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So that is what's happening with with both bills.
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It's a little bit shelved on the um Senate side, and it could come back if anything happens.
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Okay, so the bad news is despite some resistance by some of the people in the uh on the um Republican side that um seemed to have A, a spine and B a conscience.
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Um this was held up for a little while, but then subsequently it did pass.
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Do we know who changed their vote or if Democrats changed their vote or what happened to get it through?
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It was actually Anna Paulina Luna, Burchette and Marjorie Taylor Green.
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They also I think all of them actually changed their vote.
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Changed their vote and went ahead with it.
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Yes.
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Uh in favor.
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And do you have any idea um what if anything changed that caused them to change their vote?
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I think there was some heavy negotiations, and there could have been some negotiations with perhaps some bills that they wanted to get to the floor.
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Um, you know, saying that we will get your bill to the floor.
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Maybe a little negotiation, maybe some strong arming.
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I'm not sure.
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Okay, but uh it was negotiation not with the content of this bill, but something else.
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So they're saying we'll do you a favor somewhere else.
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Most likely.
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Most likely.
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Okay.
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Well, thank you for that update.
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I was not able to watch the proceedings, and it's all very confusing.
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So you really did a nice job of um kind of summarizing it for us.
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So right now we have a bill that is passed the House that is going to go back to the Senate.
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And if the Senate approves the, I guess, combined Senate and House bills, it goes to the president's desk.
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Is that correct?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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And do you have any idea?
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And I'm asking a lot from you, but I'll probe you for whatever information I can get.
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Do you have any information about um when that might happen in the Senate?
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I don't, but it it it from what I've been hearing, Trump is is very in favor of pushing this through to do his peace through strength, and we'll will probably sign off on it rather quickly.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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That's the consensus.
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That's the consensus that you're hearing.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Now there were a number of areas.
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Obviously, we are both very concerned about geoengineering, and the I believe it was $15.4 billion that were earmarked for that.
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Is that uh correct number or the $15.4 billion was earmarked basically for the Army budget proposal, which had their own a lot of geoengineering and um weather weaponization in it.
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Then there was for the the House bill, there was it what what has passed now is about 900 billion.
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The Senate one had about 882 billion proposed.
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But since that shell is shelved, now it's looking like 900 billion, and then probably the defense appropriations budget.
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I'm not sure what happens with that, but that's what they asked for, 15.4.
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For geoengineering.
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A lot of that is in there, yes.
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Oh, a lot of it, but not solely for that.
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Is that correct?
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Okay.
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Yeah, so so okay.
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So we we don't know exactly how much, um, but it's sounds like it's an awful lot of money.
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Yes.
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Um, so this bill as a whole is is gigantic.
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It's it's absurd.
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It's like 1500 pages long.
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Is that correct?
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The original House bill was 1300 pages.
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The Senate bill was 1454.
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So I would think combined, it's 1,000 plus.
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Yes.
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So it's absolutely gigantic.
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And it's it's it's the kind of book that that precludes reading it all the way through on its very length, which is probably completely intentional, I would guess.
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Um so really we're talking about somewhere in the neighborhood of 900 billion dollars, and that would be essentially the total military appropriations.
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Is that correct for the year?
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Yes, it's it's they do it every year, and this will go to the Department of Defense or the Department of War now, DARPA and the Department of Energy.
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So they it kind of combines it for all of them in there.
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For all of them, okay.
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Got it.
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So that's kind of the total bill.
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Now, there was that's kind of the total funding, if you will.
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I'm sure there's things elsewhere, but that's this is kind of the total funding bill for the military for this coming year.
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Is that correct?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Okay, all right.
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Now there were a number of areas that were controversial.
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Obviously, the geoengineering from our point of view was very controversial, but there are others as well.
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I know that um representative Stuby from Florida was objecting to some aspects of it.
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I know that Representative Massey was objecting to multiple aspects of it.
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Uh, and I know that Marjorie Taylor Green was as well, and Luna.
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So um any any comments on some of the other areas outside of geoengineering or in addition to geoengineering that were controversial.
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I think they were all uh talking about the funding for Ukraine and Israel.
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That's where they had their issues.
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Um, I I think it was somewhere around 400 million.
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That sounds right.
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I think you're right, 400 million to Ukraine, right?
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Right, and why we're giving another dime to Ukraine at this point um is is uh something that I don't think any um America First or frankly sensible taxpayer would uh would be behind.
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Um I I think you know, Marjorie Taylor Green is usually talking about America first, so she probably had an issue with the you know.
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More funding for them.
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Right.
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Right.
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And uh so where we stand now, and I'm just reiterating partly for my own clarity, and forgive me for being repetitive, Babushka, but I think it may be helpful for our listeners too.
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This has to go back to the Senate.
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It has to be does it have to be voted on again by the Senate or from what I was reading, it does not have another vote because it's superseded by the compromised um what they did with the comp putting it together.
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And they had some amendments today that had debates today, and they had two votes.
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And the very end one supposedly is the final passage vote.
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But uh the Senate does have to approve the compromise version.
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But I I don't think it has a vote.
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And then it can go to President Trump's desk.
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Very okay, very good.
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Thank you for that information.
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So we're basically going back through the Senate in some form or another, but as far as you know, not a full vote.
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And then it is going, I think it went got through on the Senate side initially.
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It's 60 to 60 votes, 60 to 40.
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So 77 to 20.
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77 to 20.
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It was a heavy, a heavy yay vote.
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Okay, thank you for that correction.
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So I don't see it probably getting stalled in the Senate.
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Right.
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And your best understanding is that President Trump is essentially wants to get the military funded and whether or not there are insanities included in there.
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It doesn't sound like that's a priority.
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The the Golden Dome is also in it a lot, and I know that's you know, he he favors doing things with that, getting that started.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So we have a gigantic military sausage that includes a lot of money to uh fund geoengineering and a lot of other worrisome things that um is looks like it has gotten through the house and may well get easily through the Senate and get the signature of the president.
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So that's a uh bit of a disturbing uh uh development today.
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However, we do know that um the president is, I think, pivoting quite a bit right now in light of some of the uh election results that have happened recently.
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And um this may not be the way that we get geoengineering defunded, but it may be uh something that opens people's eyes a little bit as to just that problem, this problem, which of course is foremost in yours and my mind, but also just the kind of rampant insanity that involves the defense department's spending these days.
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Um, just for the record, I don't want anyone listening to think that I don't believe we need a military or strong military, but some of the items included in this bill are uh just absolutely to my mind um incompatible with life on the planet, and uh I don't think that that's what what we want our defense department or even our department of war, so-called to be investing in.
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Um, were there a couple of other areas that stood out to you?
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You mentioned the Golden Dome, of course, the geoengineering is forefront for both of us.
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Uh, we talked about 400 million dollars for Ukraine for God knows what reason, um, more money to Israel.
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Um, any others that really stood out in your mind.
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There are some uh extremely concerning things that were in both bills.
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So I'm just gonna go through those since now it's been reconciled together.
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But there is electromagnetic warfare, also called EW.
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Um, there's directed energy laser weapons or DEW, um, also called microwave wet weapons.
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There is another one that uh I found out recently is there is it's something called operational use of zero trust, which basically you if if you want to go on the internet um, you know, anonymously, let's say under a VPN.
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Um it this basically makes it technically impossible.
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So if you wanted to go on a government website or sometimes personal Wi-Fi or private Wi-Fi or business Wi-Fi's, government portals, some private services, your identity, they will know your name, your phone number, your address.
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There's no more anonymity.
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That's what that means.
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And if that's passed, I think that's very concerning.
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What was that called again?
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Operational use of zero trust.
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Operational use of zero trust.
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Zero trust of whom of American citizens.
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I guess zero trust of whoever is trying to remain anonymous.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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And it's it's basically identity binding.
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So they will have all of your identity information.
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This is uh this is truly disturbing, and it's hard to know from the point of view of just being an American citizen how I guess almost anyone could vote for this.
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You know, it it's it's astonishing to me because regardless of what party you're in, this is something that can be easily weaponized against you if you're not in a position of power.
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So if you are Donald Trump and the or Donald Trump Jr.
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or someone in his coterie, and the Democrats are in power, well you're you this is used against you, and presumably if you're AOC or your whomever and the others are in power, that it's used against you.
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So it's interesting to me to think that this is something that anyone would vote in favor of if you really are in favor of a free society.
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Um I I don't I don't see how that is a uh is really a uh uh uh a player for anybody.
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Um did basically did the most of the um did most of the uh uh uh democrats vote against the bill.
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Is that how it came out in the house?
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I did, you know, it just happened at 524, and I could not see, but I I think I don't have the exact numbers.
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Yeah, we'd have to look into that, but I would guess that, but that would be somewhat in contrary to what happened on the Senate side because they got 77 yay votes.
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So But the Republicans are the majority.
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The Republicans are the majority in this.
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So you were talking about a Republican party that's in favor of uh zero trust in in Americans having privacy over their internet.
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Oh boy.
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And there's a there's some few more if you want to go over them too.
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I do.
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I have to go to break, so I'm gonna stop and then we're gonna come right back and we're gonna go step right in where you where you left off.
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I have my good friend and anti-geoengineering warrior Babushka, who is my source of up to the minute information on the national defense authorization act, which is which just was passed through the House today on what appears to be a close vote, is going back to the Senate and then is going to the president's desk.
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Babushka was going through some of the very disturbing um projects, if you want to call them that, that are being funded through this.
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And we were just talking about the zero trust.
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What was that again, Babushka?
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What was that called?
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Um, operational zero trust.
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Operational zero trust, which would be where essentially your V-I's operational use of zero trust.
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Operational use of zero trust.
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And that was correct me if I'm wrong, the notion that if you are trying to use a VPN or trying to use some sort of anonymity on the internet that the government could either block you so you couldn't use it, or they could overcome that and know exactly who you are.
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Yes.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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Now that we've got all kinds of uh constitutional concerns here.
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I don't know which uh which amendment to the constitution to pick first, but um there were some more uh we'll set that one aside for a moment in the interest of time, and you said there were a few other areas that were particularly concerning.
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Yes.
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Well, one of them is psychological warfare.
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That's just we'll push that off to the side for a second.
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Okay.
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But going back to geoengineering, um, they're looking into atmospheric science, aerosol science, um, aerosol transport into the atmospheric boundary layer, um, the transport and dispersion and optical properties of aerosol, and the characterization of chemical and biological aerosols.
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So they're really looking to research, which as we know, research means implementation of aerosols.
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And if we're all all of us who are keenly aware of the geoengineering that's going on around us right now that we're being aerosolized on a daily basis on an industrial scale.
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So to what extent this represents more of the same, or what to what extent this represents an increase or uh intensification or a new areas, uh new types of aerosols.
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Um do you have any insight into that, or is it all vaguely worded?
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The reason that they use research is so that it can it can be vague and it could sidestep you know a lot of things that they would normally put a rule on.
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But I think most of us know that research means they actually have to do something to research.
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So it also gives them kind of a fig leaf saying, well, we're just researching this, which is implies that it's being done on a small scale when in fact it's being done everywhere.
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Um yeah, very disturbing.
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And then you also were Kant speaking about the issue of psychological warfare as well, is that correct?
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Uh yes, that that was in the um Senate bill, psychological warfare.
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And I had talked to you before about the 2001 NASA um premonition of their paper, and that was in there a lot.
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And that was for they had you know, said that that was going to be for the year 2025.
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And here we are in 2025 with this bill that just passed that has everything in it that's the same.
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So, which were some of the things, just to be a little more specific, if you can, which were some of the things in this NASA premonition uh paper uh that you're seeing here now.
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So, what they did in 2001 was they made a future strategic issue for future warfare.
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Um to say that there was going to be a takedown of the US by 10 people for less than 10 million dollars by alphabet agencies and rogue government actors.
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And this was a whole paper that you can find on the internet today that they did.
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And what they outlined was warfare capabilities to include weaponized aerosols, electromagnetic frequencies, smart dust, chemical and biological warfare with targeted pathogens, the brain interactions with low frequency power to include 3G, which now is 5G, soon to be 6G, and water contamination.
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So that's what they foresaw for.
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So they foresaw that some small threat could take down the U.S.
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with this with these tech this these technological capabilities.
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Correct.
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So if that's the case, then why would it's confusing to me was was the um forgive me because I haven't read this paper, but they were saying with those things available, someone could take down the U.S.
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Is that correct?
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Yes.
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But their build the infrastructure for all those things is coming through the government itself.
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Correct.
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Right.
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I mean, a few people with with with 10 million dollars can't aerosolize the entire atmosphere.
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They can't build 5G towers.
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They can't, right?
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They did say rogue government actors, but I don't know if if maybe this defense, you know, these defense bills are trying to counteract what they thought was going to happen in the coming years.
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So now they're gonna do their own research on it.
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But it it's it's pretty much toe-to-toe for for what's in that paper, just a lot more expansive now.
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Wow.
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So technology.
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Right.
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And so it makes you wonder if they're, you know, because one of the things that's concerning to me, having cut my teeth in this whole realm through COVID, is that the pandemic preparedness scam, which is what it is, it's a scam, is predicated on the notion that either a naturally occurring organism is going to jump out of the wild and infect us all.
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So we need to be prepared for it, or China's going to do it to us, or some rogue actor is going to do it to us.
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But the reality of the matter is you've got labs all over the place that are enabling this to happen.
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And my concern is that this is the same kind of model.
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It's like somebody could do this if all of these things were in place, and somehow their twisted solution is to put all of these things in place.
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Um, it's it's very, very disturbing to me.
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Also, if you're saying, well, we need to build a system that is airtight because some rogue person could take things apart, that gives you a great excuse to take away personal liberties like privacy on the internet.
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Exactly.
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So it sounds to me like the same playbook that what we're what they're doing is saying, oh, well, this problem could happen, therefore we have to take away the individual liberties of the citizens because a bad person could do this.
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But of course, the the reality is that a bad person with limited resources couldn't do this unless you put all these things in place.
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So we're in a very, very concerning place here right now.
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This is not just about building a better aircraft carrier.
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This is about really turning these things inwards toward American citizens in my mind.
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Would you agree with that?
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Yes.
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There's a lot of tentacles going on here that just spread not only in the US, but out globally to the global governance.
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And that's just what I know about geoengineering.
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But you can see it also with you know these defense bills as well.
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Yes.
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Yeah, but they deal with NATO.
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What's that?
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Because NATO was a lot in the Senate bill.
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Now there has been a push from a number of people, not just Massey, but others trying to suggest that the United States get out of NATO at this point, that it's contrary to our national interests and national security.
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And I have heard from people that I know that are closer to the Trump administration, much closer than I am, that Trump is not.
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A fan of NATO, and that if he could, he would get us out.
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Um, but these appropriations don't seem to be reflect.
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Now, granted, I don't think he wrote these bills, but you know, this doesn't seem to reflect that the US military has any desire or willingness to leave NATO.
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Would that fit with what your reading of it?
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I don't know that much about that.
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Okay.
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What I do know is a lot of the geoengineering is really prevalent, pre prevalent in Europe and all over the world as well.
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And that ties in to them all doing it together and researching.
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And I I would hate to see it like tied in on paperwork to the US, because it already is tied in somewhat with the global governance.
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And um, I don't know if it was a treaty, but they signed something that we are tied in with this.
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Yes.
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Yes, absolutely.
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So all this is obviously very disturbing and and it's very um well, I find it very disturbing.
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I don't know how anyone could find it comforting.
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I don't think peace through strength is the way I would characterize this greater than a thousand page bill uh demanding funding for these very, very quite quite frankly, terrifying um activities.
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Um did you want to say anything more about the psychological warfare side of things?
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I have not read too much into that.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And um, so let's take a step back then at this point.
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Um having, and I want to thank you once again for doing such a great job of uh um really following this so closely, really in real time.
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I mean, we were having a little trouble getting each other on the phone.
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I don't know if uh there was some zero trust activities going on keeping us from calling each other, but that be that as it may, uh, you know, we you were really following this up to the minute, and it's kind of an ongoing kind of fluid um situation.
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I think that um did you do you have any other insights into what may have flipped the people who flipped in favor of this, um, who were kind of the usual suspects, you know, kind of people that I you know had hope would uh would kind of tow the line here.
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Um, do you have any thoughts about um about what may be going on behind the scenes with that, or is that kind of over?
32:54
I don't, because you were right, it was very up to the minute to try to even figure out what happened on the House floor today.
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Yes.
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I mean, almost to know exactly what I think you did a nice job of just uh uh making sense out of these really three different names or numbers for these for this one giant monstrosity.
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Um I would I guess I would also ask um what do you see?
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And again, this is right, we're talking in real time here, but um, what do you see as sort of next steps in this?
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Uh I see working with some more state action and state bills because states are supposed to have the right to protect themselves as a state.
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And we really tried very hard to do a call to action for these two defense bills, and we had about a hundred thousand um you know, impressions and views on it, and many, many people called.
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So the call to action went well, and we will have more calls to action as things come up on what we could do to try to put a speed bump in any of this.
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And um, I I know that they're like Wyoming just came out with a really great bill, and they actually had part of it that went to the federal level where they were they were gonna send it to the president, the speaker of the House and and Congress, um, and the military.
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So it was much stronger bill than I have seen, other than Senator Maestriano's bill, who's still the best out there, SB 508.
34:37
New York just came out with one too, which I haven't read up on yet.
34:40
Really?
34:41
Yes, uh, in December.
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And so they're probably getting ready to go into the new session in January, and they're putting them back in a little bit stronger.
34:51
Wow.
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That's fantastic.
34:53
I will tell you two interesting um side lights.
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Well, they're interesting to me because they were they referenced me.
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But uh, but uh I actually testified to the Wyoming um the Wyoming uh uh legislature on the geoengineering a couple of months ago.
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Uh Dane Wiggington was there as well, and a couple of other people in favor of it.
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So it's really heartening for me to hear that they've put together a bill that's so strong.
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Um that's why it was strong.
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I hope so, but I'd like to think so.
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But at any rate, uh I'm very pleased to hear that.
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And I'm also being a New Yorker, I'm very pleased to hear that there is legislation being placed for New York.
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I actually didn't know that myself.
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I've been so focused on the federal side of things for the last couple of months that I didn't was not aware of that.
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So I'm gonna have to talk to you off, it's not off camera, but whatever you'd call it here off the microphone, and um get what information we can uh regarding that.
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So this is that's those are those are hopeful things.
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Um what do you think there is left to do on this particular?
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I keep calling it a monstrosity.
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I don't know what else to call it.
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Um obviously Trump can um demand that certain things be taken out or not sign it.
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Obviously, there's some potential to make some kind of impression in the Senate potentially.
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It seems to me that if the Senate voted 77 to 20, it's probably or 22, whatever it was, that it's probably a fate accompli over there.
36:39
Um I know that Trump is trying to pivot a fair amount right now after the bad election results he's gotten recently.
36:47
I know that um Lee Zeldon and the EPA has been making a little more noise.
36:52
So any thoughts on that off the top of your head.
36:56
I think another next step for really good to put a dent in this would be to try to approach President Trump with an executive order on specific things like um SRM uh and stratospheric aerosol injection and um aerosols and the emissions that are obviously coming out of the fuel.
37:21
Correct.
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We can look up every day and see exactly the fuel that's coming out, and it's it's essentially doing the same exact thing as geoengineering.
37:32
Right.
37:32
It's just a different way to do it, right?
37:34
Yes.
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It's still being done.
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And if if this executive order could tackle emissions and geoengineering, climate modification, climate engineering.
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Um, you know, that would be a great approach.
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And, you know, it would bring him millions, I think millions of new voters and support.
37:57
I don't think there's on the fence.
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I don't think there's any question about that.
38:01
I think that, you know, he's pivoting back towards Maha right now very strongly because he got his clock cleaned in some of these elections.
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And I think that um I still have hope for President Trump.
38:14
I'm a three-time Trump voter myself.
38:16
People say, really?
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And I'm like, well, you think I was going to vote for Hillary Biden and Kamala Harris.
38:22
But, you know, but that being said, I have genuine hope for the guy, and I do know that the deep state hates him, which is a you know, which is a stamp of approval of and by itself.
38:33
But we have to realize he's surrounded by a lot of people, all not all of them are interested in the best interests of the United States or its citizens.
38:42
Um, he's got a huge military um and uh Department of Defense military industrial complex that's constantly trying to get bigger and stronger, and they are largely aligned with foreign interests.
38:56
You know, 400 million dollars to Ukraine is really 400 million dollars to Lockheed Mart Lockheed Martin Raytheon and Boeing.
39:05
And you know, that's really what people don't realize.
39:08
Um, I go back to when Mitch McConnell said, well, we're not really giving money to them, we're giving money to all the people that work for these companies.
39:16
Well, I don't want to give it to them either, because they're building weapons to kill people, and we are 38 trillion dollars in debt.
39:23
Um, so that's the that's the logic though, and I think we really need to to address that.
39:29
Um I have just two minutes left uh with you, and I'd like to first thank you so much because this was done very much on the fly, and uh your ability to kind of make sense out of this show.
39:45
I won't put the four letter word in front of the show, but the type of show that uh we're all familiar with in government, uh, that this performance on the on the hill on the in the house was today, to be able to make sense out of that was a real uh
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Real blessing for me, so thank you.
40:02
And I just want to ask, give you the final word here in the last 90 seconds what your takeaway from this is and what you would tell listeners to do and to consider moving forward.
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I would say number one, join reclaim our skies.
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It's a national group community where we have all our calls to action, all of this information laid out for everybody as it comes in.
40:29
And to not give up.
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Remain positive.
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We have wisdom.
40:35
We have respect for ourselves.
40:37
We also have respect for the United States, and even some of our good politicians.
40:43
And you know, do the calls to action.
40:46
Make your voice heard.
40:48
Even if this one failed, the next one may not.
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And we had Florida pass a bill because of a grassroots effort.
40:57
And we can do other speed bumps as well.
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So remain positive and don't give up.
41:04
I think that's great advice.
41:06
And uh I'm going to uh sign off for this segment, but thank you so much, Babushka, and um I'll be back for the final segment on my own.
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44:36
I'd like to thank our guest today, anti-geoengineering warrior Babushka for her time and her insights, really, which she provided just about real time today regarding the National Defense Authorization Act as it passed through the House of Representatives today and into back to the Senate and likely to President Trump's desk in fairly rapid order.
45:09
I have to say that I found it to be disappointing to find that this absolute monstrosity of a bill with so many unnecessary and harmful components within it passed through the house.
45:32
There was some debate.
45:36
But by at the end of the day, the bill moves back to the Senate, and then likely on to President Trump's desk.
45:46
As we reviewed billions of dollars going towards geoengineering activities, billions of dollars going towards such very questionable defense appropriations as another 400 million dollars to Ukraine, more money to Israel, more money to other foreign nations, money to NATO.
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In addition to that, electromagnetic weaponry, directed energy weapons, psychological weapons, and significant infringements on Americans' civil liberties involving privacy online, and also allegedly involving CBDC backdoor um openings within this bill.
46:52
900 billion dollars, ladies and gentlemen, 900 billion dollars.
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And it's not going to building another aircraft carrier or another submarine.
47:05
It's going to these other subjects, these other.
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And if the funding isn't there, then it stops.
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So what are we going to do as citizens if we want to stop it?
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And the question may came up, come up.
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Why would you want to stop it?
48:48
Well, as a physician, I can tell you that the health hazards of all of us, our environment, our land, our water, our air that we breathe being sprayed constantly with nanoparticulate aluminum, barium, strontium, other metals, graphene oxide, and God knows what other materials is nothing more than massive scale, deliberate air pollution.
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And those who are doing it have to know that it's toxic and apparently don't care.
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If we are going to leave any kind of a planet for our children and our grandchildren, this has to stop.
49:38
Secondly, we're talking about wholesale destruction of the environment, not just the health of humans, but the health of animals, the health of plants, the health of ecosystems.
49:51
I frequently go back to the subject of aluminum because aluminum in a particulate form like this is universally toxic.
50:00
It has no beneficial or no necessary function in the human body.
50:09
It's purely toxic.
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It's toxic to lungs.
50:13
It's toxic to the central nervous system.
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It's toxic to other organs as well.
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We are being sprayed with toxins, ladies and gentlemen.
50:22
We need to stop it.
50:29
So where do we go from here?
50:32
Um I think that we need to regroup.
50:35
We need to look at what is going to President Trump's desk, and we need to make that effort to ask the president to put some kind of controls on what's going on in this appropriations.
50:54
I think we also have to continue to make more and more people aware of what is happening here.
51:01
It appears that our government is completely out of control, that it is completely doing whatever it wants.
51:08
It appears to be on a bit of a suicide mission.
51:11
And if we don't want to go along for the ride, we have to make every citizen aware of what's happening and make them stand up along with those of us who have already awakened to stop this madness.
51:32
I think that we also have to reconsider the extent to which we can participate in this, I think rather diabolical view of existence is a real question.
51:50
Of course, there are many people who have decided to try to function outside of ordinary society.
51:55
It's not an easy thing to do.
51:58
But how do we position ourselves as individuals?
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Obviously, we need to speak up.
52:03
We need to try to change things as positively as we can.
52:07
But to what extent are we dealing with a fundamentally sick society?
52:14
Are we fundamentally fighting a spiritual battle, as many people have said?
52:26
No one who wants a healthy planet is going to be advocating to spray particulate aluminum all over the surface of the earth, all over the atmosphere of the earth.
52:41
Before the invention of the airplane, or very least the invention of the coal-fired energy plant, aluminum didn't exist in our atmosphere.
52:54
How on earth is that an improvement upon what came before?
52:59
It absolutely cannot be.
53:01
And yet, this is apparently the prevailing view of things, at least by people in power.
53:10
How can developing ever more destructive ways of dealing with each other be called peace through strength?
53:26
How can creating a world that's unfit for human beings to live in be any kind of a proach for anyone who has children or grandchildren?
53:47
I believe we are facing a world where our society is sick, perhaps sick on to death, and we need to completely not only resist that, which I think is very important that we do, but we have to acknowledge it.
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We have to know it.
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We have to realize that regardless of what happens in the near to medium-term future, nobody gets out of this alive, and we have to seek things that are greater than perhaps a comfortable life, entertainment, leisure, and so on.
54:38
I don't want to end this podcast today on too negative a note, but I think that we have to look beyond our society, our institutions, our civilization, if you will.
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We have to look to things that are eternal, we have to look to things that are lasting, we have to look to things that predated this destructive insanity that we're faced with right now.
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It doesn't mean we ignore those things, it doesn't mean we don't resist them, but we have to look past them for the sake of ourselves, for the sake of our children and grandchildren, and in a way, for the sake of the planet.
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We're coming upon Christmas soon.
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And for those of us who are Christians, this is a time of hope.
55:43
This is a time of happiness.
55:45
This is a time of spending time, valuable time with our family and friends, and I'm looking forward to that myself.
55:54
I'm going to continue to fight to stop geoengineering.
55:58
I hope you will continue to join me.
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I hope you will continue to encourage people to get involved.
56:07
And I believe that ultimately we will prevail.
56:12
It's going to be a long battle.
56:14
But I think we also at the same time have to look beyond what's going on around us because some of these things we cannot control.
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And we must look beyond that to things that are eternal, things that are eternally good, and things that are beyond the realm of the evil that men do.
56:35
On that note, I'm going to sign off today.
56:38
This is Dr.
56:38
Clayton J.
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Baker MD on the America Out Loud Pulse Program on the America Out Loud Radio Network, Liberty and Justice for all.