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7-28: Back at training camp, D'Anthony Bell, Derick Hall · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports Death Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three JJRFM Sports headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning from the fourth day of Seahawks training camp
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  Speaker 2: at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Headlines brought to you
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  Speaker 2: by Frostbrew Corsel Like Choo's Chill, Those Mariners and limped
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  Speaker 2: out of Texas, losers of three of four in the
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  Speaker 2: Big Series against the first place Ranger for the AO
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  Speaker 2: West lead. George Kirby picked a bad time to allow
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  Speaker 2: four home runs and most of his career second most
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  Speaker 2: in Mariner's history, allowed to buy a pitcher in one game.
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  Speaker 2: EMS lose three out of four, including the finale Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: Now for three games in Dodger Stadium and getting tonight
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  Speaker 2: Luis Castillo starting seven to ten first pitch against the
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  Speaker 2: World champs in LA. The Seahawks waived often injured Kenny
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  Speaker 2: McIntosh as if he was recovering from reconstructive knee surgery
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  Speaker 2: from an injury twelve months ago out on this field.
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  Speaker 2: They did the move on McIntosh, cut him a couple
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  Speaker 2: hours after. Emmanuel Wilson, the free agent running back they
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  Speaker 2: signed from Green Bay this offseason, ran with the start
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  Speaker 2: offense for the first time in training camp third practice.
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  Speaker 2: It was rookie first round draft choice Jadarian Price's best
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  Speaker 2: day yet. He made a cut oft of a wheel
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  Speaker 2: route on Erness Jones for a touchdown catch a veteran
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  Speaker 2: called a hell of a move that stories at the
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  Speaker 2: Newstribune dot com. We're gonna talk more about that and
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  Speaker 2: tons more from camp here in a minute. Other camps,
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings signed, Remember him, Jamal Adams. Vikings have signed
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  Speaker 2: Jamal Adams on the eve of the Minnesota training camp start.
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  Speaker 2: He still only thirty years old, played seventeen games, four
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  Speaker 2: starts last year for Pete Carroll's Raiders. Of course, twenty
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  Speaker 2: to twenty three very eventful seasons with the Seahawks, who
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  Speaker 2: traded two first round picks and started Bradwyck McDougal for
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  Speaker 2: the Jets to get the former All Pro safety. The
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  Speaker 2: college sports and what might be the future of college sports,
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State this morning announced a deal that Chase Bank,
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  Speaker 2: based in New York City, is going to have a
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  Speaker 2: logo on all Buckeyes team uniforms all sports. They're paying
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  Speaker 2: the Buckeyes seventeen million dollars a year for the rights
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  Speaker 2: to have Chase Bank on their informs as teams college
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  Speaker 2: programs try to find more revenue to share with players.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be a thing of the future, including
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  Speaker 2: with the Washington Huskies. See what the Husky's doing response
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  Speaker 2: to that, seventeen million dollars a year for a program
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  Speaker 2: that already prints money at Ohio State. Now on with
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  Speaker 2: the Tuesday Wednesday. What is this show? Tuesday, Greg Bell,
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  Speaker 2: Jessmon McIntyre, as we are every weekday ten am to noon.
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  Speaker 2: Jess went right next to me here at Seahawks training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Jessin's got Travis. We got Travis moger Beck.
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  Speaker 3: At the Travis no problem with that.
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  Speaker 2: Happy to be here. Fourth day of Seahawks training camp.
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  Speaker 2: News yesterday they cut Kenny McIntosh. We'll talk about why
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  Speaker 2: they did that, when they did that, and what a
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  Speaker 2: potential could mean for Kenny McIntosh down the road. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about what I saw yesterday in that third
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  Speaker 2: practice of camp, including how good defensive end Riley Mills
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  Speaker 2: looks now that he's healthy. We remember Riley Mills, right,
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  Speaker 2: He basically had a red shirt season last year. He
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  Speaker 2: had reconstructive knee surgery that ended the knee injury that
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  Speaker 2: ended his career at Notre Dame. In January of last year,
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  Speaker 2: he had the surgery. The Seahawks draft him anyway in
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  Speaker 2: the fifth round and then he didn't play until late December.
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  Speaker 2: Last time. This time last year, he was bumming. He
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  Speaker 2: was just watching training camp. Well, he's balling now, back
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  Speaker 2: from surgery. Had his first career sack in the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: which is pretty cool, not to mention very impressive. And
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  Speaker 2: now Riley Mills is full go in the defensive line
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  Speaker 2: and man as he looked quick off the ball at
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  Speaker 2: defensive end, sometimes sliding inside tackles his swim move off
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  Speaker 2: the snap. He was living in the backfield yesterday at
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  Speaker 2: ten twenty five. You're gonna hear from the Anthony Bell.
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  Speaker 2: The Anthony Bell is an interesting story. He is the
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  Speaker 2: man that is benefiting most right now from nick Emon
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  Speaker 2: Worri's ankle surgery. The Anthony Bell was starting for the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks in December. He was cut by the Seahawks. He
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  Speaker 2: was with Carolina Panthers to end last season. You'll hear
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  Speaker 2: his story, including how he got a Super Bowl ring
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  Speaker 2: from the Seahawks anyway, and it was with the Panthers
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  Speaker 2: to end last season. You'll hear from him at ten
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. We'll talk about the Mariners. Is their fall
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  Speaker 2: from first place down to third now two and a
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  Speaker 2: half back out of first place? Changing their plans for
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  Speaker 2: the trade deadline? Should it change their plans for the deadlight?
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  Speaker 2: Should be the baby sellers four nine four five one
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  Speaker 2: that's coming tode TEXTA. That's my first question after the
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  Speaker 2: text line? Should mayor just sell forget about adding a
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  Speaker 2: right handed bat and a bullpen arm. No, it's two
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  Speaker 2: and a half back third place. Just when says no, no,
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  Speaker 2: we'll pack it up. No, absolutely not. It's only that's
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  Speaker 2: my heart speaking. The trade deadline is Monday, August third.
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  Speaker 2: Jered Depoto has a challenge. Now. There are reports rumors
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  Speaker 2: that teams are interested in George Kirby, who absolutely did
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  Speaker 2: not help himself or the team yesterday with four home
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  Speaker 2: runs allowed. That's the second most runs home runs allowed
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  Speaker 2: in a game ever by a Mariner starter. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about Mark Lang extending guys like that, who
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  Speaker 2: will give up five? So George Kirby gives up five.
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  Speaker 2: There's talk of Emerson Hancock being on teams list. We
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  Speaker 2: talk about this surplus and Mariners pitchers in the fact
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  Speaker 2: they want Louis Castillo and his salary to go away
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  Speaker 2: more than anybody who did in Hancock.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the talk of the town.
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  Speaker 2: It would It's gonna have to take the poto eating
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  Speaker 2: some of Castillo's thirty one million dollars he's over over
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  Speaker 2: the next two years for it to even possibly happen.
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  Speaker 2: But instead of eating money, would you trade your young guys?
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  Speaker 2: That would be a ownership decision. To eat money ten
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  Speaker 2: million plus maybe half maybe more of Castillo's salary in
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  Speaker 2: the trade, or don't eat any money and trade away
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  Speaker 2: one of your guys under club control, like George Kirby
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  Speaker 2: or Emerson Hancock. Hmmm. Of course what you can get
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  Speaker 2: in return will be a lot higher for Kirby and
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  Speaker 2: Emerson Hancock four nine four five one In coma toadge
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  Speaker 2: text one, what you think of all that? And whether
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners should be sellers instead of buyers? At the
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  Speaker 2: trade deadline at eleven o'clock, I'll sit down and talk
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  Speaker 2: with Seahawks linebacker Derek hall Man. Is he got a
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  Speaker 2: great backstore and how he's gotten here to where he is?
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  Speaker 2: Born two pounds nine ounces at twenty three weeks, his
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  Speaker 2: mother was told he was not going to live through
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  Speaker 2: the birth, or even past a day or two past
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  Speaker 2: the birth. He had brain bleeding, he was on a ventilator,
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  Speaker 2: he was clinically dead at one point that he was
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  Speaker 2: on a life support system as a newborn, and now
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  Speaker 2: he's a forty six million dollar Super Bowl champion linebacker.
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  Speaker 4: Unbelievable, Seriously, it was. Story is unbelievable, It truly is.
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  Speaker 2: And he knows exactly what his mother has done for him,
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  Speaker 2: raising him for that single momming and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: He talks about his mother. We're going to talk to
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  Speaker 2: him about his mother at eleven o'clock. You'll hear from
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  Speaker 2: Derek Hall Alive with us on ninety three point three
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  Speaker 2: show before I fornasseill join us out here in his
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  Speaker 2: show running from twelve three before Dave Softy Maler and
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  Speaker 2: Hugh Millen at three to seven. By the way, Dave
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  Speaker 2: Softy Maller and Hugh Mellen have not other than Sam
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  Speaker 2: Donald on the show at three thirty today.
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  Speaker 3: You don't say so.
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  Speaker 2: We have a pretty good show behind up to after Donald.
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  Speaker 2: Who Ian's got, We've got Derek Hall. Ian'll have someone
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  Speaker 2: at around twelve o'clock Live and then at three thirty
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  Speaker 2: live right when practice ends. Sam Donald, super Bowl winning quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: will be with us on ninety five.
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited to hear him because I know that he
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  Speaker 4: has been on with Ian, but that was right after
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  Speaker 4: he signed, and I have not heard him on a
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  Speaker 4: live interview. I don't believe sitting down on our station
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  Speaker 4: and that's going to be magnificent. It's going to be
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  Speaker 4: so good.
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  Speaker 2: He recently, I don't know if he'll talk to him
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  Speaker 2: about it. San Clemente High School recently retired his jersey numbers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and some people in San Clemente say, well, finally, why
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  Speaker 2: did it take you so long? But let's face it,
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  Speaker 2: these are the two first two back to back successful
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  Speaker 2: years that Sam Donald's had in his NFL career, and
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  Speaker 2: he's still only twenty eight years old. He's in the
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  Speaker 2: second year of a three year deal. I asked John
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  Speaker 2: Schneider at the Combine in Indianapolis at the end of February, Well,
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  Speaker 2: he just won you a Super Bowl. He's probably more
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  Speaker 2: valuable than the middle fifteenth or so top paid quarterback
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  Speaker 2: in the league. Let's say you about his contract. He
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  Speaker 2: looked at me and said, Greg, you know he signed
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  Speaker 2: a three year deal, right, He's only one year into
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  Speaker 2: a three year deal. The implication being, we don't redo
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  Speaker 2: deals with two years left on it. We'll do it
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  Speaker 2: with one. And that's the standard time they get foundational
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  Speaker 2: players redone like Devin Witherspoon's about to be like Jackson
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  Speaker 2: Smith and Jigbo was going into his rookie contract ending
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  Speaker 2: this year. Well, Sam Donald's time for that will be
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  Speaker 2: next summer at this time. That's what we'll be talking
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  Speaker 2: about with Sam Donald. But the implication being, wit, we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to revisit this two years ahead. That's Sam
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  Speaker 2: Donald coming up three thirty with Dave Softy Maller and
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  Speaker 2: Hugh Millon. Hugh Millen was out here yesterday watching practice
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  Speaker 2: with me. You didn't get to watch practice because you
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  Speaker 2: were running around all over the place.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, of us, But that's yeah, I did not get
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  Speaker 4: to watch yesterday. But there's only so much that you
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  Speaker 4: can see in training camp. What can we delineate from
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  Speaker 4: these practices, greg the.
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  Speaker 2: Running back situation at least looking at who's going where
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  Speaker 2: in the starting lineup, and so far it's been George
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  Speaker 2: Hallani number one. Jenarian Price, the number one draft pick,
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  Speaker 2: thirty second pick in the draft, has been alternating with
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  Speaker 2: the ones with him. Price continues to improve and grow
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  Speaker 2: in the passing game. Yesterday I mentioned he had the
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  Speaker 2: wheel route move on Ernest Jones, that Jones said that
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  Speaker 2: was a hell of a move. He's good, man, is
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  Speaker 2: what Jones said. He's gonna help us, and they are
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  Speaker 2: really really focusing on pass catching and pass walking with Price.
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  Speaker 2: Thomas Hammock, the new running backs coach, does that in drills.
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  Speaker 2: I watch him do it every single day. He throws
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  Speaker 2: a medicine, a weighted medicine ball at him, that Price
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  Speaker 2: Parry's back as if he was hands shivering an on
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  Speaker 2: rushing pass rusher. It's every day they've passed game. And
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  Speaker 2: that's where Price says he has to improve the most.
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  Speaker 2: It's what he did the least at Notre Dame because,
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  Speaker 2: as we mentioned yesterday was the backup to Jeremiah I love,
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  Speaker 2: the third pick in this year's draft. But then yesterday
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  Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson emerged. He had been a clear number two
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  Speaker 2: through OTA's and mini camp in the spring, and the
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  Speaker 2: first two training camp practice is yesterday. He was starting,
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  Speaker 2: or at least getting reps, alternating in with Halani and
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  Speaker 2: Price with the starting offensive. The first time I've seen
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  Speaker 2: him do that. He was a five hundred yard rusher
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  Speaker 2: for Green Bay last year. They signed me to a
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  Speaker 2: one year, very low risk salary, just above veteran minimum,
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  Speaker 2: easy to cut. If he doesn't show, we're starting to show.
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  Speaker 2: At least they're giving him a chance to show. And
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  Speaker 2: right now, Jessman, they're in that pote pourri. Let's try
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  Speaker 2: everybody rotating through at running back. But I will be
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  Speaker 2: shocked if Jadarian Price is not the lead running back
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  Speaker 2: starting on September ninth against the Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would surprise me if he wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: And obviously, like you said, you're always gonna check out
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  Speaker 4: things and see how everything works. I mean, you go
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  Speaker 4: all the way back to Russell Wilson's right here and
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  Speaker 4: what happened there. We're going to see between him and
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  Speaker 4: Matt Flynn, what is going to happen. I think that
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  Speaker 4: he absolutely is and we'll see what Sharboney's health looks
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  Speaker 4: like as we move forward with that, But if he
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  Speaker 4: is your number one and you have Sharbonay coming back
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  Speaker 4: mid season, if he can, then.
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  Speaker 3: That looks like a pretty healthy running back room to me. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: And you have Hallane Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And Hallani has made it here and stuck as an
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  Speaker 2: undrafted rookie from Boise State a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: This is now his third year because of his past
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  Speaker 2: catching and pass blocking, so that's where he has the
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  Speaker 2: advantage on Price right now. That's why they're working so
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  Speaker 2: intensely with Price. The other development at running back yesterday
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  Speaker 2: was Kenny McIntosh. And we saw out here standing next
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  Speaker 2: to Charbonay watching the end of practices. The knee just
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  Speaker 2: wasn't healing. It was a extensive injury that he got
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  Speaker 2: twelve months ago early in last year's training camp. If
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  Speaker 2: Travis has it, Here's what McDonald the coach said about
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  Speaker 2: Kenny McIntosh's injury on Saturday before they decided to release him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Kay, he's doing a great job too. No timetable.
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  Speaker 7: You know, that was a tough injury. I know we're
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  Speaker 7: going on almost a year now, but uh, that was that.
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  Speaker 7: He was a really unfortunate injury for Kenny mack so,
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  Speaker 7: but he's right there.
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  Speaker 6: He's rehabbing, he's working hard.
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  Speaker 2: He was rehabbing, but not at the pace to get
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  Speaker 2: him back anytime soon. He was on the physical and
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  Speaker 2: able to perform lists with Charbona because he was on
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  Speaker 2: the pup list to begin training camp. There's a little
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  Speaker 2: nuanced to the reason that they waved him out right
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  Speaker 2: yesterday because he was still counting against the ninety man.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't wave him with an injury designation. If he
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  Speaker 2: was on injured reserve, they could have waived him with
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  Speaker 2: an injury designation and then those usually have a set
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  Speaker 2: time six weeks standard that after six weeks you get
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  Speaker 2: an injury settlement payment and then you become a free
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  Speaker 2: agent if you are deemed healthy enough to play and
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  Speaker 2: sign with another team. But because he was still counting
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  Speaker 2: against the roster, he was just waved and now he
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  Speaker 2: he can because he was simply way be claimed by
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  Speaker 2: another team unlikely because of his injury history, or if
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  Speaker 2: he clears waivers, would become a free agent. But then
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  Speaker 2: the issue becomes, of course, his health and when a
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  Speaker 2: team would deem him healthy enough to play that he
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  Speaker 2: could pass it physical and only then could he be
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  Speaker 2: starting to begin work on anybody's training camp. But he's
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  Speaker 2: still young enough Jessman that he could do that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's not if he's physically able to play, of course
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  Speaker 2: to knee injury willing, but I mean it's not like
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  Speaker 2: his career is about He's been twenty six years old
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  Speaker 2: and he's barely played in his three seasons. So we
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  Speaker 2: may not see the last of Kenny McIntosh in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: We probably have seen the last of them here in Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: at least for now, although there is a possibility could
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  Speaker 2: sign him back later in the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big Kenny McIntosh fan. Obviously. I covered his.
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  Speaker 4: Brother Dion during college and then got to talk to
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  Speaker 4: both of them several times just because of that connection.
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  Speaker 4: And I just like him and I think he has
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  Speaker 4: all the potential in the world.
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  Speaker 3: But that injury.
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  Speaker 4: This is where I go to Susie sunshine side of it.
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  Speaker 4: He has not been used. His body has not been
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  Speaker 4: used due to those injuries, and if that can get healthy,
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  Speaker 4: he hasn't been beat up in the rest of his
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  Speaker 4: body just because he has had to sit out, but
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  Speaker 4: he has still stayed healthy. Obviously, whatever you can do
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  Speaker 4: while you're working out and rehabbing an injury, you can
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  Speaker 4: get healthy. You can one hundred percent get back into
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  Speaker 4: playing shape. And I know there's something to be said
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  Speaker 4: for not being hit and taking that get in shape
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  Speaker 4: away from it. But he has not been used and
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  Speaker 4: abused on the field just because of the knee.
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  Speaker 2: So Macintosh out, Emmanuel Wilson moving up to some one reps.
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  Speaker 2: Halani and Price still one in one A so far
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  Speaker 2: as the starting running backs with Zach Charbonnay on the
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  Speaker 2: physically enable to performance. That's your running back situation currently
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  Speaker 2: post Kenneth Walker for your Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Up next, we're gonna talk about nick Keemon Warri's ankle
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  Speaker 2: surgery and the follow out from it. Who is benefiting most.
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  Speaker 2: That's the Anthony Bell. You're gonna hear his story. You're
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  Speaker 2: gonna hear Mike McDonald talk about Nick Emon Warri's surgery
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  Speaker 2: and where he stands as far as possibly returning and
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  Speaker 2: in the meantime. The Anthony Bell is a starter. You'll
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  Speaker 2: hear from him next on ninety three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 2: The news of the first day of training camp was
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  Speaker 2: the fact NICKI mean Worry was not on the field
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  Speaker 2: for it. He's out. He's on the physically unable to
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  Speaker 2: perform list, as you know, because of arthroscopic ankle surgery
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  Speaker 2: that he had this month before he reported a training
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  Speaker 2: camp last week. Coach Mike McDonald said Saturday that he
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  Speaker 2: had surgery to fix the lower sprain on his right
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  Speaker 2: ankle that he sprained in practice four days before the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl in February. The coach said it's not a
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  Speaker 2: long term thing, and I asked the coach he expects
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Ema worried to play in the open September ninth against
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: New England. He said, I don't know Emon worry would
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: have been ye practicing from the start for the September
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: ninth opener without this injury in surgery. He thought he
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: was practicing all of OTA's in mini camp, so he
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: thought he would be ready to okay, but it wasn't healing.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: The ankle wasn't healing to the point that he thought
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: he could go out every day and practice. And so
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: here we are. He's on the physical and able to
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: perform list and come back at any time.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I think one of the things that we have talked
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: about extensively, but to reset for the listeners is the
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: fact that he that.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Does not designate him to not be able to play.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: You need to tell the listeners once again that this
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: is not an emergency screen.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The pluplist rules for if you're to start a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: training camp at pupp you can come back at any
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: time that you pass a physical from the team. If
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: you're on the pup list throughout training camp, don't come back.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: You are eligible to be on the pupp list to
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: begin in the regular season, which means you'd have to
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: miss the minimum the first four games. That's a situation
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: that Zach Charbonnay could find himself in if he doesn't
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: come back any time during training camp. Savonny's situation much different.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: He had the reconstructive surgery on his knee in February,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: so only a relatively short time ago, five months ago,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: compared to the arthroscopic, non invasive surgery with a laser
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: and a pencil point. So that's different. And this is
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: McDonald talked about this not being a long term thing
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: with even worry on Saturday, even.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Or you expective in the opener though I don't know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: I mean you said yeah, I mean like, uh, could
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: he play in the opener?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I know he could, Sure.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: You could play in the opener? You expect I don't know.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: So McDonald's saying I don't know is really a nod
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: toward not wanting to put pressure on the kid. He's
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: still only twenty two years old, he's only in his
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: second year. The star is Loune. So without em and worry,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: who are Mike? Who's Mike McDonald turning to for that
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: dual role of being a linebacker when they bring extra
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: defensive backs on the field and a safety moving up
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: to be basically a SAM four three linebacker. It's d
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Anthony Bell. He's a bigger safety six one two eleven.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: He's about two inches shorter and nine pounds lighter than
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: is even ware Let's face it, he's not Nick even worried.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: They didn't. I don't know if anyone in the league
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: has the skills already that Nick even Worey has the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: way McDonald utilizes him. But it is something of a
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: familiar role. D' anthony Bell was telling me about this
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: safety coming down in the box as a big nickel
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and being a tackler against the run. That's what he's doing.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: He's basically doing Emon Worri's job in a hybrid role
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: of safety to linebacker in a big nickel. He was
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: played fourteen games, mostly on special teams last year for
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. How much did he want to play for
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks? The Cleveland Browns where he played the first
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: three years, and he started a handful of games over
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: those three seasons at safety. The Browns offered him more
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: money before last season than Seattle did, yet he chose
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: less money to come to the Seahawks. Because he thought
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: he had a better chance to win. He was proven
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: right there. He played fourteen games only eleven percent of
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the defensive snaps, though so mainly a special teams player.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: John Schneider did what he did with a lot of
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: players last year to make a seventy man team beyond
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the fifty three to include the seventeen man practice squad.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: He passed a lot of players on and off waivers,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: because when you activated a player to play for a
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: regular season game off the practice squad, you didn't have
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to pass him back through waivers to sign him back
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: onto the practice squad. He did that nine times with
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the Anthony Bell last year. Well on the ninth time
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: at the end of December, the Carolina Panthers claimed him
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: right after the Seahawks played the Panthers in Charlotte. A
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: few days later. The Seahawks waived them trying to get
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: him on the practice squad, and for the first time
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: in nine of those type of transactions, the Panthers claimed him.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: He actually played the NFL NFC Wildcard game for the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Panthers against the Rams while the Seahawks were preparing to
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: play San Francisco the following week. In the Divisional playoffs.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: So by the time the Panthers were eliminated from the playoffs,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the Anthony Bell came back to his home that he
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: had found during the season here in Seattle and watched
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and watched the Seahawks buddies play the
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl from his Seattle home while they were down
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: in Santa Clara winning the Super Bowl without him. He's
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: texting them. It was a very odd situation. This was
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the Anthony Bell. You'll hear from him about that and
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: more right here.
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: Bitter sweet, you know, Uh, the bitter part about it
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: being that, you know, leaving a Super Bowl contending team,
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: and then the sweet part is knowing that you know
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: somebody else does see or telling enough to pick you up.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: So there was a bittersweet moment. And you know, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: wasn't changing for nothing, and I wish those guys the
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: best the whole time. So I was still room for
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: them because I've been here all year.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: So you did the practice squad think a few times
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: last year when they released you in the December, they
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: probably told you we're trying to get from the practice squad. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: I was actually here at the facility when Carolina. So
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: I was coming back in to sign back on the
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: practice squad. So but then they called and told me
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: that I got picked up by Carolina.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: When when Carolina signed you, did the see say anything
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to you or they didn't?
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I you know, I talked to a couple
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: of coaches and it was like, dang, you know, we
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: hate that happened because we wanted to sign you back.
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: You know, it was just a couple of roster moves
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: that had to happen. So you know, it's just one
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: of those situations where business is business.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: So and they and the Carolina cut you January.
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: Right right, Yeah, yeah, right after the season. We actually
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: we have.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: To be least you did over there.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, that was a situation.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Did you actually be released in the hope to get
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: back here? Was that the goal or did you at
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: the time?
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that was the goal for sure, to try to
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: get back here on the team.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Always you wanted to come back here, of course.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Of course, if you ever talked to your agent last year,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I think he told me correct, I'm wrong that you
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: actually took less money to come The Browns.
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: Gave you a richer offer this Yeah, yeah, the Browns
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: gave me a higher offer to come here my first
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: year coming here, they gave me a higher offer. But
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: I felt like, you know, iurady new coach Jeff from
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: being with him with the Browns and the opportunity of
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: building a family, a foundation of a good team, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: I just chose to come here and say.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And now, yesterday I looked like you were playing the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: hybrid sam linebacker. Yeah, yeah, is that new for you?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: How much have you done there?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: It's not new?
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: So I played That's why all last year I did that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: I did the same position. You know, I was doing
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: a little bit of all of safety dime, you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: big nickels. So it's not new.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: What kind of opportunity is this with FEMA are down now?
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: For I would say it's about the same as last year,
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: you know, just get better at the position, get better
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: and get more trust you know as far as teammates
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: to getting everybody to trust me more and uh more
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: opportunities to do my job.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: The right way and learn How much further ahead ago?
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: Oh definitely way for then you know, the second year
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: in the defense, I'm way further ahead than I it
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: was before. But you know that that's what comes to
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: being in the defense the second year.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: So so where did where did you watch the Super
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Bowl from?
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: Oh?
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: I watched it.
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: I was here actually, yeah, yeah, because I still had
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: my place here, so I was here. I was watching
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: the super Bowl. And then I had talked to them
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: boys after the super Bowl, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: was reaching out.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: To them and you gotta and you gotta ring it everything.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah I did get a ring.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah what did that mean you?
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: Oh, I meant a lot. You know, growing up playing football,
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: that's all you dream of is winning the Super Bowl.
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: That's like the biggest accomplishment when it comes to football.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: So that was a big accomplishment for me.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: But they didn't have to do that, right, you know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: they didn't have to.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: They didn't have to what they chose to.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: So was that a player as you understood it, that's
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a player vote, right? Yeah?
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not I'm not sure if it's a player
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: vote or not. But you know, they reached out to
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: my agent and said I'll be getting the ring. So
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: I was super excited about that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you said you asked to be released by Carolina, Like, okay,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: did they know that or what was the reaction Carolina's reaction.
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I mean, and I think it was pretty
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: obvious that it's like, I mean, I came here for
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: I was on there for a week, you know what
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: I'm saying. So right after I was like, yeah, if
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: you guys can release me, you know, I had my
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: age to reach out.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: It's nothing to disrespect them or the organization. I love
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: what they're doing there, and it's it's good for them,
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: but it was just what's best for me.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: They released If I remember they released you the week
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that The Sea played in Carolina, they.
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, they really didn't ask me nothing about so,
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not sure why they hit me up,
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: but you know, it's just one of those things that happened.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: So this defense, I talked to you last year about
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the physicality, especially how much does that fit exactly how
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: you want to play?
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: How much it fit a lot? You know, I love
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: being physical, and then especially being in the big Nickels spot,
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: and I'll get more reps at that spot. There's a
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: lot of opportunity to put hands on fullbacks, tight ends,
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: you know, old linemen. So it's it's a lot of
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: opportunities to be physical. You know, and I love the
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: stuff that we do here. We do a lot of
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: different things and just knowing different positions and this position
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: defense just makes you more valuable. So it's it's helpful
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: for me.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: And how much did you spe teams work with Jay
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Harve out here help you there's an overall player and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: how he raided?
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, helped me a lot. You know, Jay taught
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: me a lot of stuff because he's a super smart coach,
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. So he'll he'll tell you
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: things that you wouldn't think about seeing during the game time.
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: So we'll we'll meet and he'll tell me something. I'm like,
• 25:15
  Speaker 9: you know what, I wouldn't thought about that by myself.
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: So having him in my corner the whole year I
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: was here to helped me a lot.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: What were some things he taught you that maybe.
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: For example, one when we had the thing with the Saints,
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: you know, he had went back and watched film when
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: I blocked the point we wouldn't. He went back and
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: watched film probably years ago when they did the same
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: formation and somebody was close to getting the block, and
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: he was like, you know, if you line up in
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: this spot, just take a B line right to the
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: punter and nobody will touch you. And I'm like, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: somebody got to touch me. It ain't no way I'm
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: gonna come that free. But it happened. I did come
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: that free, and I blocked the point. So I told him.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, you're right.
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: You know, I trusted you, and he was right, and
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: I made the play.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: That's that's de Anthony Bell. He's now in the Nickymun
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: worry spot while even worried recovers from his arthroscopic ankle
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: surgery's playing the hybrid big nickel role that Mike McDonald
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: uses in extra defensive backs. As you heard him, he said,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: he likes to play in the box as a safety.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: That's six one and two eleven. It was interesting to me, Jesson.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It spoke to the culture of the Seahawks that Mike
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: McDonald's built over two short years here. That they voted.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: They I did check. It was a player's vote. I
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: talked to Julian Love and others about it. They voted
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: for him, the Anthony Bell to get a Super Bowl
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: ring even though he played fourteen games and finished the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: season with the Carolina Panthers, and as he said, he didn't.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I loved that so much. I love that so much.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: That's culture it is, and that the guy's texting him
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: during the super Bowl week and after the super Bowl
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: and they said they love said that they were really
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: broken up. And even Mike McDonald said he was bombed
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: to use his word when the Panthers claimed him because
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: they liked Bell so much enough that they gave him
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl ring even though he wasn't on the
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: team and the loan behold. They sign him back in
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: March to get.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: A second writing was apparently on the wall.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And he asked for the release from the Panthers to
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: get back to the Seahawks. And again, remember he signed
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: with Seattle. A lot of NFL players in the mid
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: twenties don't do this. He signed with Seattle for less
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: money than the Browns were offering, and he wanted to
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: go to Seattle instead of staying in Cleveland, where he'd
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: been his first three years, because he thought it was
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: a better chance to win. And he was sure right
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: about that. But yes, the culture that Mike McDonald has
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: put in this locker room permeates all kinds of things,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: including d' anthony Bell, including him getting a Super Bowl
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: ring when he didn't have to. That ring, by the way,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: is pretty impressed.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I got to see it and I
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: was blown away. I'm like, can you not blind me today?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Thank you? And you might ret nose.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: No, It's gorgeous and I feel like the designing also
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: the presentation was amazing as well. It also speaks to
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: how well Jody Allen had really taken over this team.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: It seems like something that Paul Allen would do as well,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: but she just stayed right in stride with that. It
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: was it was awesome and it was you guys earned it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: That was her last act as a Seahawks effectively, it
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: was before she ended up selling the team to the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Cosal family again. August twenty sixth is the NFL owner's
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: vote on the Seahawks sale to the Coasal family for
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: nine point six billion dollars. That'll be the second highest
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: sale in North American sports history behind the Lakers for
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: ten billion. And did Anthony get Bell got one of
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Jody Allen's designed commissioned at Super Bowl rings even though
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: he didn't finish the last season with the Seahawks four nine,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: four to five to one. Your My question for you is,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and I mentioned it a little bit yesterday as well,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: of all the players and things and issues you're going
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: to hear about during this training camp for the next
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: five plus weeks, what's the one you're more most interested?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: What's the player? What's the issue is that the lead
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: running back situation is that Sam Darnold. Can he return
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the way he was last year? Cutting down on turnovers,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: for instance, would be job one for Donald. Think about it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: As good as they were becoming a super Bowl team
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and going what sixteen and four sixteen, what did they
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: end up being seventeen and three over twenty.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Years touching the whole game?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, playoffs? If Sam Donald doesn't turn them all over
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: an NFL hid twenty times, how much better can they
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: be on offense? If he cuts down even to fifteen turnovers,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: that's five fewer times the defense is put in a
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: disadvantageous position and the offense is not in a position
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: to score because your quarterback gave the way the ball. Again.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: They lost twenty one nineteen to the Rams, the only
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: one of the three games they played against the Rams,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: and they lost when their quarterback threw four interceptions. They
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: lost twenty one nineteen on a field in the last minute, right,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: last second, right, they just went a few yards wide
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and short from sixty one yards and Jason Myers, that
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: was the game, Jessman that the Seahawks players tell us,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: that's when they knew Sam Donald was a dog, that
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that guy can lead us to a super Bowl. When
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: they went toe to toe with of Rams and lost
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: by a fraction a couple of yards of a field
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: goal at sixty one yards of the buzzer after their
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: quarterback through four interceptions that day.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I still remember Ernest Jones, Yeah, exactly, And
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: it is one of my favorite things ever too, because
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: you know, you got a guy on the defensive side
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: of the ball, but that is a team that is
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: just going to back up everyone, you know, some some
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: defensive players and I'm not inside that locker room, might
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: get a little peeved in that situation having to go
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: back out there even though they're gonna have their guy, right,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: And it was nope.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: When when Jones so the way that happened in Inglewood
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: after the game, it was twenty one nineteen four interceptions
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: by Donald, I'm standing.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: There receptions and they lost by two points.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: After Donald let them off their own goal line into
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: position for the winning points at the final minute without
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: any timeouts. After the game, Donald spoke for excuse me,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Ernest Jones spoke first before Sam Donald and when Jone.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: That's when Jones famously uttered, anyone that has a problem
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: with my quarterback, f you, yeah, except he didn't say
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: f His hammer's rolling on everything. Became a folk hero
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: for it, he says. Now he gets noticed all over
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the Seattle arey.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Can't go out even, he said at the Super Bowl parade, Well,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: he must be weird as just a person going around
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: getting groceries and people yelling bleep you.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's saying, like a good way, he said. People
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: want to pose for selfies and pictures with him holding
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: up the middle finger. Y's now his signature in Seattle
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: because of that uttering. Well, when he was done saying that,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: we all chuckled. We all led with it in our story.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: He comes off of the podium and then Sam Donald's
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: coming on to talk and they passed each other about
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: three feet to the left of me where I was standing,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: and Jones. Donald did not hear what he had said.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask that he just had and
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Jones turned to him and said, I got you, Doug.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: That's all he said. And then we came up Donald.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: You could tell you he didn't quite know what Jones had
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: just said to us. And then the report all this said, well,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you're middle linebacker just said this value, Well, how does
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that make you feel? And the rest was history on
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: legend of Ernest Jones was born so much, I would submit,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I told the guys on King five this morning on
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: their Ultimate Sports podcast show that just is airing right
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: now in Kong. I told him this morning, I think
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Ernest Jones is right there with Devin Witherspoon as maybe
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the most important players on the team, and that includes
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald, That includes anybody Jackson Smith and Jigmin Cooper
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Cup because of things like that, what he did for
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald with the locker room responded to that, where
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: that Donald and the offense took that from there beating
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the Rams to the next two times they played. Ernest
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Jones is the ultimate middle linebacker for Mike McDonald's defense. Remember,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: they traded, they cut Dotson, they traded Baker in the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: middle of the season. They traded their two inside linebackers
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: at midway through McDonald's first season of twenty twenty four
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and traded for Ernest Jones specifically for that kind of leadership,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the fact that he when he hits guys that go
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: straight to the ground and not get drag five or
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: six yards like Dotsam was getting. He's a prickall he is.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: And the ability to on a fly change defenses. Mike
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: McDonald's defense, they utter one word commands right before the
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: snap to confuse the offense. They might say blue, or
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: they might say Daytona, or they might say they might
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: say anything, and that one word jumps them into a
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: new formation, a blitz attack, a new coverage, everyone moving
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: at the snap. Well, Ernest Jones has to orchestrate all
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: that and play at position with a lead guard and
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a fullback coming at him or a tight end crossing
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: across the middle, and he does all of it. He
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: is the key to that defensive front and all the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: changes that they do with the snap because of Mike McDonald.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Up next, we're gonna shift gears to talk about the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Mariners because they need it. What do they need? Though?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: The trade deadline is Monday? Do you sell now that
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: you're two and a half back in third place? Do
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you go get that right handed bat. Do you go
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: get the reliever they so sorely need? Is it Mason
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Miller from San Diego at Mike Costume, George Kirby or
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Emerson Hancock one of your young starters? Can they get
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: rid of Luis Castillo in that contract that's up next?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: At eleven o'clock, you're gonna hear from Derek Hall. We're
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: gonna sit down and talk to the Seahawks starting linebacker.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: On ninety three point three KJRFM, Welcome back, Greg Bell,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Jessin McIntyre, Travis Muger Beck in the studio. Jessamin and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Gregor are here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center for
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the fourth day of Seattle Seahawks training camp as Super
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Bowl champions. I want to say before we get to
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: the Mariners, because there's a lot to get to there
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: in a short amount of time before At eleven o'clock,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Derek Hall joins us the starting outside linebacker. Congratulations to
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Elise Woodward. Yeah, our friend, the Husky sideline reporter for
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: so many years has become a play by play announcer
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: for so many sports, including WNBA, including women's college basketball. Well,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: this morning, the University of Washington announced that she will
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: be the new Huskies football play by play announcer right
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: here on ninety three point three KJRFM and the Husky
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Radio Network. Congrats to Elie Woodward.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: She talked about earning it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: My apple cup rider die, even though we're on opposing
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: sidelines for the last fourteen years, and someone that I've
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: always respected so much. Having come out here in two
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: thousand and nine, obviously she was already a name out here.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: But you know, people think that we might compete against
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: each other.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Nope, she has been a true.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Friend, an awesome colleague, even though we might be on
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: opposite sides of the field, and I could not think
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: of someone better to be in that booth man.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: That's really awesome. So happy for her.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I've twenty three years, twenty three years she's been on
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: that sideline.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I used to travel on team planes and buses with
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: her when I worked at the University of Washington, travel
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: with the football teams. And yeah, well, hats off to her.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Great and very talented broadcast.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna hear her. She is now the heir
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the replacement for Tony Castercrone, who left the Huskies radio
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: broadcast to be the play by play announcer for the
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That happened about a month or so ago.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: And now at least Woodward is going to be the
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: new Washington Huskies football play by play announcer in the
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: tradition of Bob Rondo and now Tony Cascon. And now
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: at least Whatward you'll hear her broadcast all fall here
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: on ninety three point three KJFM, your home for the Huskies.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: The Mariners three out of four. They lost in Texas
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: in a series they had been earmarking as their chance
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to get back into first place. Instead, they're in third,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: two and a half games back of first place in Texas.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: The trash Cans are ahead of them right now by
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a half game.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I love that you keep calling them.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Now they gotta go in appropriate. Now they got to
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: go to Dodgers Stadium to play the world champion Los
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers for three games beginning tonight. It's seven tien
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: of Luis Ca Steal on the Mountain. The trade deadline
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: is on Monday, August third, four nine four five one
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: on the Komadadge text line and on the talkback line
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: that Travis says, We've already got three calls about two
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: of them Mariners. What does this Texas series and in fact
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the Mariners are in third place? Change in your mind
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: about how the Mariners should approach this trade deadline. We
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: know the market is slow. We know there are not
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of right handed bats available that they've been
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: trying to get, not a lot of high leverage arms
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: that are trying to get well. Should they pivot and sell?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Should they sell? Should they trade George Kirby? Should they
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: trade Emerson Hancock was still club control a young pitcher.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: With their surplus of starting pitchers that have been rumored
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: to be on the trading block, is that what it
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: would take to get a Mason Miller from the San
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Diego Padres, who still has two years of club control
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: on his contract, throwing one hundred and five miles an
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: hour as a closer, the most dominant closer in the game.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Bringing in him would move Andres Munos into a varied
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: role as a primary setup guy. Or you have Mason
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Miller and Andres Munos's co closers, But that's gonna cost
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you one of your frontline starters at least plus some
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: of your top prospects is that the mode Jerry Depoto
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: should be in right now, four nine, four or five one, jessmin.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I know no one wants to hear this after losing
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: three or four in Texas, but it's only July twenty eighth,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: their quote, only two and a half games back in
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: an absolutely putrid division.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: I think that's where the Salt hits the wound on
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: that one, because of how bad the division is. And
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: they have everything that they need to beat four or
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: five games up right now, and so we know that
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: it's there. It's just we haven't seen it actually come
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: to fruition.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I say they buy. I say they go get it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: It's right handed bat if. Whatever it takes to get it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I say they get more bullpen help, and I say
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: they go for it. While they have this pitching staff, young,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: relatively healthy, under club control. This is their window, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: it's especially their window because the division stinks and because
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: the American League only has one or two or three
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: good teams right now. I mean the go we remember
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: we talked to Steve Phillips about in in both Jim
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Bone then they both said go yes both.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: I think I have like the most exclamative comments on
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: that he is this is it, let's go exactly.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Everyone around baseball cannot believe that the Mariners are in
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: third place two games under five hundred end of July.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: With the talent and the pitching that they have. That's
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: how bad their offense has been. That's how bad their
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: bullpen has been, and frankly, that's how bad they've been constructed.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I know everyone in this town wants to get on
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, but he's only got so many buttons to push.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: When you've got seven relievers and three of them are
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: triple A guys, when you've got six starters, none of
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: them happy about the situation, and you have to have
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: guys one you have one fewer bullpen are I mean
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Rob Refschneider as your primary option against left handed pitching,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: he was until he got her. Come on that. That
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: is not Dan Wilson's fault. It's maybe Dan Wilson's fault
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: when he inserts guys into games. But when he has
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: options off the bench and he looks at Rob Refschneider
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: and he looks at Michael Rucker in the bullpen, he
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: didn't put those guys there. Dan Wilson didn't put those
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: guys in the dugout in the bullpen. Jerry Poland did that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Justin Hollander did that. Frankly, That's where this buck starts
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: and stops is with the roster construction on the team
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: that is this talented in pitching, that is this poor
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: everywhere else. I mean, there's only so many things a hitting,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: pitching coach and a manager can do with that four
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: nine four five one. What would you do at the
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: trade deadline? I say bye, I say go for it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: You're not out of it. You're two and a half
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: back in a terrible division. I know they've been playing
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: subterranean lately, uninspired and looking bad, but it's only I
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: know you want to hear this either, but it's only
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: July twenty eighth.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I really feel like we're in a Wolf of Wall
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Street moment right now.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Worth.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going anywhere.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Because they shouldn't. I'm with you one hundred percent. I
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: am all in buying and would Hugh. I can't imagine
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: what this fan base would do if they started selling
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: off at this trade deadline right now. I don't think
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: they will, but I'm not in that office, so uh,
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm all in for buying, and it just
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: has to be a significant buye.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: It has to be a significant buye.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: And that's what's tough, is that that costs. There aren't
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: many of those, and those are, they're gonna cost a lot.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Up next, Derek Hall. What a story he has, What
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: an appreciation he has for his mother, who he's bought
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: a house for. He calls it his dream that he's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: been able to fulfill. He's now a forty six million
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: dollars starting linebacker, Super Bowl champion for the Seahawks. You'll
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: hear from Derek Hall next eleven thirty. We'll read back
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: your text and talkbacks on the Tacomadadge text line in
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: our talkback app Ian Froness will joined us at eleven
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: forty five from Seahawks training camp live on ninety three
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: point three KJRFM No from.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: The Star Rentals Sports Tests Your ninety three point three
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: KJRFM Sports.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Good Morning, Happy Tuesday. Derek Hall from the Seahawks training
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: camp joins us next after headlines brought to you by
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Frostbury Corselight Chows, Chill Manners lept out of Texas losers
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: in three of four in their Big series for first
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: place in the Al West. George Kirby picked a bad
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: time to allow four home runs, the most of his career,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the second most home runs allowed by a pitcher in
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Mariner's history in one game on to LA for three
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: games in Dodger Stadium, beginning tonight against the World champs,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Last Castillo starts seven to ten first pitch in Los Angeles.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks waved often injured Kenny McIntosh here from training
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: camp as he was recovering from reconstructive knee surgery. They
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: did that a couple hours after Emmanuel Wilson, the free
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: agent running back they had signed from Green Bay this offseason,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: ran with the starting offense for the first time in
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: training camp. It was rookie first round draft choices Jedarians
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Price best day yet Yesterday he made a cut on
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: a wheel roud on Ernest Jones for a touchdown catch
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: deep down the field that the veteran linebacker called a
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: hell of a move. He said, that guy's good man.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: He's gonna help us. Ernest Jones about first round pick
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Jedari and Price, I still say he's going to be
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the starter Week one in the backfield against New England.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: September ninth, the Vikings signed Jamal Adams remember him on
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: the eve of Minnesota's training camp, starting still only thirty
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: years old. Played seventeen games, four starts last year for
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll's Raiders. Of course, you remember the Seahawks trader
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: away two first round picks and a starter Bradley McDougal
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: to get him. In twenty twenty, and in college sports,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Ohio State of the Big Ten of the Washington Huskies
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Big Ten, Ohio State signed a deal to have Chase
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Bank from New York have their logos on all Buckeye
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: team uniforms of all sports at a cool seventeen million
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: dollars per year. This is probably the precursor to the Huskies,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the Ducks, and everybody else doing the same thing, if
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: they haven't already. Back here at the Virginia Mason Athletics
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: in aer Seahawks training camp were joined by outside linebacker
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Derek Hall, one of the foundation players of the top
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: ranking defense in the NFL, Derek Asker. Right off the top,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: this training campus is unlike any you've had before, because
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: one you're a Super Bowl champion, Two you have a
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: new contract that solidifies your place with this team, and
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: three you have cameras and boom microphones following you. Ever,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: what's that whole experience been Like, It's.
• 44:14
  Speaker 12: Different, you know, especially coming off of Super Bowl win
• 44:17
  Speaker 12: and you know, guys trying to reconnect, you know, get
• 44:19
  Speaker 12: back to the basics. You know, obviously we know what
• 44:22
  Speaker 12: it takes to get there, but trying to redefine that right,
• 44:24
  Speaker 12: you know, not trying to chase it, but doing everything,
• 44:26
  Speaker 12: put into work every day, you know, knowing that it's
• 44:28
  Speaker 12: not giving and getting back to the ground. I think
• 44:29
  Speaker 12: it's huge. And then uh, you know, money's neither here
• 44:33
  Speaker 12: nor there. Obviously blessing to have, but at the end
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: of the day, I got to go out and produce
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: and play football. So continue to grow my craft, continue
• 44:38
  Speaker 12: to do the things I need you to go out
• 44:40
  Speaker 12: and help my team be successful. And then thirdly, with
• 44:42
  Speaker 12: the hard knock stuff, I think it's it's different. I
• 44:45
  Speaker 12: thought it was gonna be a lot more in your face,
• 44:48
  Speaker 12: but it's not as bad as I thought it was
• 44:49
  Speaker 12: gonna be. So I feel like those guys are doing
• 44:51
  Speaker 12: a great job, and I think it's a it's a
• 44:52
  Speaker 12: great opportunity to get an insight on you know kind
• 44:55
  Speaker 12: of what you know, what we're doing, what you see
• 44:57
  Speaker 12: and you know kind of also using it. You know,
• 44:59
  Speaker 12: that helped bread a bread yourself and you know, the team.
• 45:01
  Speaker 12: So I think it's a good opportunity.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Your coach Mike McDonald has mentioned perfecting the process that
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that's the challenge now to do what you guys did
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: last year even better. What signs have you seen that
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: the processes changed or what changes have come in that regard.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: I think just trying to run it forward, you know.
• 45:18
  Speaker 12: I think that's his new motto, you know, not trying
• 45:20
  Speaker 12: to reinvent the wheel, obviously keeping the things that we have,
• 45:23
  Speaker 12: but trying to find the uniqueness and things just to
• 45:26
  Speaker 12: get that much better, like you said, And I think, oh,
• 45:28
  Speaker 12: you know, that's the places that we're growing, that's the
• 45:30
  Speaker 12: things that we're doing, you know, Like I said, basically
• 45:32
  Speaker 12: just trying to connect with every single guy, you know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 12: not leaving all guy, trying to show a guy what
• 45:37
  Speaker 12: it feels to be loved, you know, as men, I
• 45:38
  Speaker 12: feel like it's a hard thing to love each other,
• 45:41
  Speaker 12: you know, and I feel like just that's that that's
• 45:43
  Speaker 12: what we have here, the love to come rider, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 12: that's honestly what makes us a pretty dang good football team.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, the secrets out here in Southeast Alaska, everyone knows
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks now they they've studied you. That's how this
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: NFL works, right, It's the of copycat league. And everyone
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: will have studied your defense and studied what you've done.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: What's your to that counter? Now what you know? The
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: whole league study and you what are you guys going
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: to do differently? How can you evolve as a defense? Yeah?
• 46:06
  Speaker 12: I think again, continued honding in on the details, the
• 46:09
  Speaker 12: small things, right, you know we missed attacker here, they're
• 46:12
  Speaker 12: hondeing on those mistackles, honding on our technique, honding on
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: hand placement, food work, all the things that that very
• 46:18
  Speaker 12: monotonous that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: You think just you do every day.
• 46:21
  Speaker 12: Continue to get better at those things in the scheme,
• 46:23
  Speaker 12: mic and all those guys that handle out of those
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: stairs continue to put us in great position go out
• 46:26
  Speaker 12: to be successful. But I feel like us as a
• 46:28
  Speaker 12: player continued to try to grow our game every single day,
• 46:30
  Speaker 12: you know, just that much better than we feel like
• 46:33
  Speaker 12: we need to be.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: You personally, they're gonna have studied you, and now you've
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: got a new contract, You've got a Super Bowl ring.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: What are you expecting from offenses? You expected more attention.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe some double teams are tight ends blocking you that
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: maybe didn't block your tackles coming out to reach to
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: either didn't. What are you expecting to be different this
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: year that way?
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, I don't. I don't think anything different.
• 46:52
  Speaker 12: I mean I was one of the more the highest
• 46:54
  Speaker 12: rated guys when it came to double teams last year
• 46:56
  Speaker 12: in the league, So you know, I'm expecting more of
• 46:58
  Speaker 12: the same, but also trying to find ways again going
• 47:00
  Speaker 12: back to myself and my game to help defeat those
• 47:03
  Speaker 12: and continue to help a way to you know, grow
• 47:05
  Speaker 12: my pass rush tree, continue to do things to help
• 47:07
  Speaker 12: the team, you know, get better every single day. So
• 47:09
  Speaker 12: I don't expect anything different personally. Just continue to go
• 47:11
  Speaker 12: out and try to be dominant man. And I think
• 47:14
  Speaker 12: that's my goal is yould be dominant every single play,
• 47:16
  Speaker 12: you know, just doing what I can to help this
• 47:18
  Speaker 12: team be that much better.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: You've told and retold your story many times of your
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: birth and two point nine ounces or two pounds nine
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: ounces and born at twenty three and a half weeks
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and your mother and what she went through and what
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: you went through with it, brain bleed and all of that,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: and you retotaled again at the super Bowl. But having
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: done that in the start of your life, from there
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: to what you are now and an NFL player on
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: a second contract, a contract that everyone plays for and
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: dreams about, and now a super Bowl champion. Have you
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: thought about stepping back and taking a stock of all
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: you've could become, what you've come from to where you
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: are today.
• 47:55
  Speaker 12: I think I've done that. You know, the contract process
• 48:00
  Speaker 12: very stressful deal. You know, you go through all those negotiations,
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: all those talks, and then you know when you know,
• 48:05
  Speaker 12: Nell finally hit the himmer I mean hamm and finally
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: his to Neil and you drive that thing in and
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: you know, everybody come to agreement on the deal. I
• 48:11
  Speaker 12: think that's that's pretty huge. That's pretty scessful, And that's
• 48:13
  Speaker 12: not something you take for granted. You know, a lot
• 48:15
  Speaker 12: of guys in good opportunity, like you said, to get
• 48:17
  Speaker 12: to that second contract. So being able to go home
• 48:19
  Speaker 12: and celebrate that with my family, take a step back
• 48:21
  Speaker 12: and just look at how blessed I am. You know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 12: from from day one, I've been a miracle it's nobody
• 48:24
  Speaker 12: but God. You know who's ordained my life to be
• 48:27
  Speaker 12: in this position, to be in this moment, and you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 12: just on the football piece. Man, just continue to grow, man,
• 48:31
  Speaker 12: just continue to grow, continue to strive. You know, if
• 48:33
  Speaker 12: the job isn't done, it'll never be done until we
• 48:36
  Speaker 12: hang the clease up as an individual player. So just
• 48:38
  Speaker 12: trying to go out and get that much better perfect
• 48:40
  Speaker 12: my craft.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 48:41
  Speaker 12: I think that's that's what this game is done for me,
• 48:43
  Speaker 12: and that's what it's continue to do.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 48:45
  Speaker 12: Just just give me a form of normalcy as a
• 48:47
  Speaker 12: young kid and now being able to go out and
• 48:49
  Speaker 12: make ways of generational wealth and continue to grow my
• 48:51
  Speaker 12: game and try to be one of the best to
• 48:52
  Speaker 12: ever do this.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: When this thing is all.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Done, you're still a young man. Did you have a
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: splash purchase with your new contract? Something you've always wanted
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: to get?
• 48:59
  Speaker 12: I've been in the trucks obviously, So I bought another truck,
• 49:05
  Speaker 12: six gen Dodge. Everybody no more park. God, I love coming.
• 49:08
  Speaker 12: So bought a six gen Dodge. But man, just color
• 49:13
  Speaker 12: the new colors like a ceramic gray or something like that.
• 49:17
  Speaker 12: It's kind of a little bit darker than the gray.
• 49:19
  Speaker 12: Probably about the gray on your shirt. I think it's
• 49:21
  Speaker 12: pretty cool, but uh yeah, about that. And then it's
• 49:24
  Speaker 12: just real estate, you know, trying to trying to try
• 49:26
  Speaker 12: trying to make it, make money back home, back home,
• 49:30
  Speaker 12: so I had mama place obviously, and then now trying
• 49:32
  Speaker 12: to just get residual income and do different things like that.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: So it's trying to grow.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: You bought your portfolio, excuse me, you bought your mother
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: at home.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: Right correct? A couple of years ago.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: What was that like a young man still in his
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: twenties to be able to provide for the mother who
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: provided so much for you.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to put in the words. I mean
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: that lady gave everything for me.
• 49:52
  Speaker 12: My mom's a warrior, she's MC queen, she's everything, So
• 49:55
  Speaker 12: it's hard to put in the words. She always says
• 49:57
  Speaker 12: she didn't be able to pay me, but I don't
• 49:59
  Speaker 12: care how long I live, I able to pay for
• 50:01
  Speaker 12: what she's done for me and just giving me that
• 50:03
  Speaker 12: fighting chance, you know, as as a as a young infant.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: So uh, I mean, that's that's a second or none.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 50:08
  Speaker 12: That's that's huge and something that I never thought i'd
• 50:12
  Speaker 12: be able to do. So now I don't know what's
• 50:15
  Speaker 12: next for mama, but she she she got away to
• 50:16
  Speaker 12: that third one. This this is all about making sure
• 50:19
  Speaker 12: I grow my portfolio and you know, getting myself and
• 50:23
  Speaker 12: UH set up for the.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Future residential real estate, commercial, residential, residential yep. On football wise,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: what's next for you now? As I said, you're still
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: a young man to grow and you said you take
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: your gaming that What is the next level for you?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: What do you want to do?
• 50:38
  Speaker 12: Just being a dombinant force man? I think being able
• 50:40
  Speaker 12: to finish on the quarterback. You know the numbers were
• 50:42
  Speaker 12: high last year, getting there, getting there and getting there
• 50:44
  Speaker 12: and pressure and it hits, but not being able to finish.
• 50:46
  Speaker 12: So it's continuing to no false steps, you know, that's
• 50:48
  Speaker 12: Plaits second difference, make a difference in the pressure in
• 50:50
  Speaker 12: the sack, you know, being able to win more cleanly
• 50:52
  Speaker 12: with my hands, you know, taking that tick of a second,
• 50:54
  Speaker 12: Being able to get around and ben the edge better,
• 50:56
  Speaker 12: being able to you know, steal my feet sometimes instead
• 50:58
  Speaker 12: of falling.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: Man, my game and my game can grow so.
• 51:01
  Speaker 12: Much, and just being able to watch the evolvement from
• 51:05
  Speaker 12: even last year through the spring and where I'm at
• 51:07
  Speaker 12: now and just watching tape then and watching tape now,
• 51:09
  Speaker 12: just how much more decisive I am and then tune
• 51:11
  Speaker 12: with my game and where I want to grow I
• 51:13
  Speaker 12: think is pretty good.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: How much pressure is there for the sack number at
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: your position? You know that's where the money is. That
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: stat alone doesn't often tell what a guy's effectiveness is.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: But how much does that stat hang around off outside
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: like edge guys like you?
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's what you are.
• 51:29
  Speaker 12: You know, you get paid to get sacked, so obviously
• 51:31
  Speaker 12: that the weight of that statistic number is very high.
• 51:35
  Speaker 12: But I think again, the way we see the value here,
• 51:38
  Speaker 12: obviously you know what they've done for me is a
• 51:41
  Speaker 12: little bit different.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say they rewarded you for everything, but
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: that they wanted your game not to find by sacks.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: How much do you appreciate that?
• 51:49
  Speaker 12: I mean, it's amazing. I love again like I love
• 51:51
  Speaker 12: it here. I love this place. I love what we're building.
• 51:54
  Speaker 12: I love our coaching staff. Obviously John and who he
• 51:57
  Speaker 12: is and hisself, he's amazing. But just being able to
• 52:01
  Speaker 12: be able to come to work and be myself every day,
• 52:02
  Speaker 12: be able to come in do what I need to do,
• 52:05
  Speaker 12: talk crab.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: They know what they know.
• 52:06
  Speaker 12: What Again, when I'll come to work every day vice
• 52:09
  Speaker 12: versa with them, I know they're gonna put their best
• 52:11
  Speaker 12: effort in.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: I love it here. I love the community, I love
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: the twelve.
• 52:13
  Speaker 12: So again I'll say a thousand times over what everyone
• 52:16
  Speaker 12: thought I'll be able to get a free agency, I
• 52:17
  Speaker 12: don't care.
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: I love it here. I want to be here and
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: this is home.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: You did say that you didn't even want it. I
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: think remember asking you in the spring about did you
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: look at your market? You said you didn't care. And
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: that's because of the culture here, correct, Yes, sir, and
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: that's the validation of that. Derek Call, I know you're
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: a busy man. You have to go. I appreciate you.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I appreciate your appreciation for where you've been, for your
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: mother and all that.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: Congratulations to you, Yes, sir, thank you, appreciate you taking
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: the time.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Yess. I've done this for twenty five years, and this
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: is why I love doing it. When you learn stories
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: and hear appreciation of that. Yes, they're rich, Yes they're accomplished.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Yes they're held out a pedestal, but they're people and.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: They how hard they've worked, the work.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: They put in and the appreciation for those who got
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: him here, especially when they talk about their parents, especially
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: when they have an appreciation, as Derek Hall does, for
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: how he came back from death when he was newborn.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: He was born under three pounds.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: From day one. I was a.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl winning linebacker exactly.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, and he's a good one. He the reason they
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: chose him over Boy Mafey. I saw it again yesterday
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: in practice. I know they did have pads on, but
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: the way he takes on double teams he met you
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: heard him mention in that interview. Statistically, people that track
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: that stuff say he was one of the most double
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: teamed edge outside linebackers in the league, and a lot
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: of that is because he played every down. He was
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: a pass rusher and a run stopper, and when teams
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: wanted to attack the edge, they sent tackles, tight ends,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: fullbacks at Derek Hall. Frankly, he handled that better than
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Boy Mafey did. Mafay, by the end of his time here,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: became more of a pass rush specialist because he was
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: something of a liability against the run. Not with Derek Hall.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: All stayed on the field for all downs. Didn't get
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: the sack numbers, but he had pressure rates and high
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: pressure numbers, but he didn't get the sack numbers. You
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: heard him talk about that and his appreciation for the Seahawks,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: not just saying, well, your value to us is how
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: many sacks and how many times you put the quarterback
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: on the ground. It's everything else he does, and that
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: is also the ethos of this defense. The top ranked
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: defense allowed the fewest points in the league last year.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: They talk a lot about don't worry about getting your
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: sacks or getting your numbers, or everyone will get theirs
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: if everyone does their job, and everyone does some selflessness
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: and switching of positions and maybe you're out of position
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: for a sack. Joan love Lenter Williams talk about no
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: one's clamoring for give me all the run one on
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: one reps. And Marcus Lawrence talks about this. He's been
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: in the league twelve years and he talks about how players,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: especially at the outside edge position, they say, get me
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: on an island against the tackle and let me go
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: to work so I can get paid. That's not what
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks do here. They do loops, they do stunts,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: they change positions. The letter Williams is a defensive in
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: one position, he's in a three technique or five technique
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: defensive tackle. The next Derek Hall takes on double team
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: so that somebody else can get the pressure of the
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: sack so they can blitz nick emun Worry or Devin
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Witherspoon off the edge that Derek Hall is getting double
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: teamed on. And the Seahawks rewarded that with Hall and
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: gave him forty two million dollars, and they let mafe
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: go because they valued more of an every down presence
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that Derek Hall gives in run against the double teams.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Mafay ends up getting twenty million dollars a year from
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals because of his past rush in the
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: fact that he was a past ERUs specialist on a
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion team. But I'm here to tell you
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks value the incomplete game and the character that
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Derek Hall has.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something that I mean, even before Mike McDonald,
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: we've seen with this team time and time again, is
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: you know, you draft on skill and talent, but you
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: also draft on character, and that is something it's not
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: traditional Pete Carroll, but it is still a very consistent
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: theme that we seen with this organization is that they
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: do also take that into account when they're taking guys
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: on to this organization.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: On the takomadadts TEXTIM we're going to read and get
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: into a lot more. Eleven thirty, the two six had
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: an interesting point about the trucks. You heard him mention
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Dodge trucksy the mopark guy. He said, of course he's
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: going to go that route. I don't even know the
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: trucks that he's talking about that he just bought again.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: But the two oh six said that d Hall downplayed
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: how much he's into trucks. I was his ups driver
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: his rookie year, delivering parts. He and his dad in
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: the driveway, wrenching walk through the players parking lot. It's
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: pretty obvious which truck is his.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: I have a feeling he's made some modifications on his own.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: That would just be my guess. Yeah, Oh, that's funny.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: That is funny, Yeah, he said. He said his rookie
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: contract was for he got his mom, and he had
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: dreamed of doing that and always wanted to do that.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: His second contract was for the trucks.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: But that's priorities.
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: He's got them in the right order. I think that's great. Yeah,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: I always remember him talking about getting his mom, you know,
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: that house, that that was his dream, And imagine that
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: being your dream and finally having the way to do it.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: And it's through what you love to do too. It's
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: not like, oh, you know, I toiled and did a
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: job I don't want to do. His dream was also
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: to play in the NFL.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Stacy Gooden Crandall is his mother who had him at
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: two pounds and nine ounces. And one of the great
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: side five products of the Super Bowl was the fact
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: that he got to tell that story about his mother,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: and his mother got some notoriety for what she had
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: done to raise him, and.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: You're pointing out him.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I believe she was a single mom at the time.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: If I read the story at the time and you're
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: cradling your hands and trying to mimic how small two
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: pounds nine.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: I was trying to like, it's amazing, you know what
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Our twins. Our twins are born at three pounds three ounces,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: and they were premature, not nearly as premature nine weeks
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: after he was twenty three weeks is seventeen weeks early
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: to normal gestation. Our twins are born at thirty two
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: weeks and we're in a nicke you for I think
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: it was three weeks. It was a nightmare. It seemed
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: like forever. Well, he was in the nick you the
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Neon NATO intensive care unit for months. For those of
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: you who've never had a Neo NATO intensive care unit experience, don't.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I never would wish it on anyone as a parent.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: It's the scariest thing on earth. The beeping and the
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: constant critical monitoring, the heartbeats and the billy ruben lights.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Because your child's skin is yellow and they think they're jaundiced,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: and you have to take them out. And when you
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: take them out, there's all these wires. Take them out
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: of their isolets. They're in these pink and blue plastic containers.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Basically they look like they're in gerbils in a hut. Yeah,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: and you get to take him out, but do you
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: have all the wires on you? I remember one of
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: the first times that I got to hold my children
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: and he wanted us to be kangaroo swaddling with bare
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: chest skin to skin, and how valuable that was. And
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: there's still a thousand wires hanging and monitors beeping and
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: nurses coming in because the monitors are coming on constant
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: care and Nick you constant critical care. And he was
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: in there for months. His mom had to deal with
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: that for months before he became well enough to live
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: on his own. And as you said, now he'said for
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: forty two million dollars Super Bowl linebacker. It's one of
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: the more remarkable stories of many one of my things
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: here of being a journalist for twenty five years and
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: doing this, And I remember I told you the Ankillean story.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: What's sports writing about? It's not about sports, about the people. Yeah,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: everyone has a story, Everyone has a where did they
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: come from? How did they get here? And Derek Halls
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: is one of the more remarkable ones I've ever come
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: across in twenty five years of doing this, especially at
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: the position in the sport he plays. It's not like
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: he's golfing. I mean he is out there getting bashed
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: and bashing for a guy was totally he was. His
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: mom was told he wasn't gonna live as a newborn
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: at two pounds and nine housand. He actually lost weight
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: and was under two pounds right after birth. Those parents
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: know that right after birth, babies often lose weight, right
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: because they're not again. Yeah. Yeah, And so he was
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: at for a time under two pounds at twenty three weeks,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: which is almost impossible to live in and here he
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: is thriving. It's it, yeah, It's why we do what
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: we It's why I do what I do. Frankly, I
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: mean the x's and o's and the sports center hot yeah,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: we see those. But it's the stories like that that
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: that really motivate me to find out more about And
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Derek Hall is one of my favorites for it. I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: appreciate him. Yesterday I was told he wasn't exactly enamored
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  Speaker 2: with coming on the radio esterday and they but I'll
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: come on with Greg adjustment, okay. He of course turned
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  Speaker 2: out to be great. Four nine four five one by
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  Speaker 2: the Tacoma Dodge text line will be back here, Tex
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  Speaker 2: thanks to the ups driver. That's pretty cool. That's a
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  Speaker 2: good story.
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  Speaker 3: That is a great story.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to ask him, Derek, all about that and
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: his dad and the redoing trucks in the driveway. We'll
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: read back your text at eleven thirty. We also have
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: some talkbacks a lot on the Mariners. As soon as
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: you mentioned Mariners. It's on the text lide.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we've got some feisty ones out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yes and right and so man, fifty years, I'm only
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: laughing instead of crying. It's been fifty years this town
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  Speaker 2: hasn't had a World Series baseball team. So I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I totally get it. Your text done it to coming
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  Speaker 2: Out's text line. Next Live from the Virginia Mason Athletic
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  Speaker 2: Center in Seahawks training camp on ninety three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 13: Hey show, Hey Jess, Hey Greg, Jess. I love you,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 13: but we've got to sell, sell, sell on everything. It's
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 13: not working. Nothing's working. Everyone's progressing, Col's progressing, Julio's progressing,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 13: Josh Naylor's regressing. Everyone is going in the tank. We
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 13: gotta sell on Dan, we gotta sell on Egor. We
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  Speaker 13: need a whole new coaching staff next year. That's no
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  Speaker 13: history to the past, no Mariners, nothing, nothing, nothing.
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  Speaker 14: Absolutely not the season to sell cal Julio and Naylor
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 14: need to pick it up. There's no reason those three
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  Speaker 14: should have a combined negative war. They're too good for that.
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  Speaker 14: And as a team, we have to start seeing more pitches.
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  Speaker 14: I think there was three innings, yesterday where Rocker threw
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 14: less than double digit pitches. You gotta get to bullpens.
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  Speaker 14: That's where you're gonna get on base. That's where you're
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 14: gonna score runs.
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  Speaker 11: I am tired of the DWE which stands for Dan
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  Speaker 11: Wilson experience. Time to move on. I bet you the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 11: Marriams wish they still had Christophering or Drawn as a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 11: possible manager candidate instead of Wilson. Also trade Kirby, trade Gilbert,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 11: get rid of some of those guys. Get some young bats.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 11: You have some young rooms coming up. Make the transition.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 15: This reconstructive knee surgery that Zach Charbonet's hat. That is
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 15: very concerning. When you have that type of surgery, injuries
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 15: are bound to happen again. It is just natural.
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  Speaker 5: It just happens. It sucks.
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  Speaker 15: I had a friend that had the same surgery. His
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 15: sports stays were done.
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  Speaker 2: That's the talkback line. Go the iHeartRadio app nine through
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: three KJAR. You'll find a red microphone button there, or
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: the nine through three KJR website. It's now at the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: top of that too. You hit that button, you give
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: a thirty second or less voice message will play it
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: back at eleven thirty dak Starbine, the injury, the surgery
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: he's talking about. The injury happened of course in mid
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: January and the divisional playoffs against the forty nine ers.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: He didn't have the surgery until February because of the swelling,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: so he's only what five five and a half months
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: out of that surgery, which is why a lot of
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: estimates are that he's not going to be back until
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: October at the earliest. Eight to twelve months is the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: usual recovery time from a knee the ACL repair. But
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Takoma dots text line fort nine four five one. A
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: lot of texts about the Derek Hall interview we just aired.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: If you missed it, go to the iHeartRadio app or
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: nine through three kids r comm podcast page the Great
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Bell Show. You can hear it this afternoon. And also
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: about the Mariners. What to do? A lot of you saying,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: don't sell the wrong year to sell like you heard
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: there on the talkback, A lot of you saying the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: same thing. Four to five Great Derek Hall interview. Always
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: loved the humanitarian take with interviews. My daughter was born
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: one month early at four pounds and spent two weeks
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: in the nick you with mom, all the lights, everything
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  Speaker 2: you described. We felt lucky then and lucky now. It
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: was only two weeks. Yes, I absolutely relate to that.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Congratulations to you and your family and your daughter. And yes,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Nick you is hell on earth experience, terrifying for especially
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: a brand new parent. It's just crazy. Thank you for
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: that terrific discussion with Derek call another four two five says,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: every day each of us faces what we feel our challenges.
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  Speaker 2: It's nothing compared to what he has overcome. What an
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  Speaker 2: inspirational young man. Two o six, great man, great interview.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome Marcus our friend on the two o six I
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  Speaker 2: hate off season training camp, et cetera talk. Thanks for
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: doing it in an interesting way. Thank you, Marcus. Appreciate
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: that you mentioned the UPS driver, said Derek Halls down
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: playing how much these trucks. That's a good one. He said.
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  Speaker 2: He was a UPS driver during calls rookie year to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: his house delivering partsy and his dad in the driveway, wrenching.
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  Speaker 16: By the way, your delivery driver knows a lot more
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 16: about you than you think, so you know head's out there.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. Drivers, they see you at all times, day
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: and night, weekends, when you don't expect him, when you're
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: not putting on errors.
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  Speaker 16: And they know where your packages are coming from and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 16: what you're getting.
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  Speaker 2: That too, I didn't think of that, friend, Michael from
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: the two five to three. The m's have to buy,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: no freaking way they sell, because if we sell, they
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: will lose us. Not that they give a rats rear
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: end about that, but they have to go for it.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe not all the way, but if not, now when
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: this is our moment, we are and we are somehow,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: some way letting it slip away. No way hashtag refused
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  Speaker 2: to lose four two five. I'm gonna push back about
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: roster construction. Injuries are the issue. Every team deals with
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: unproven pieces to cover for injuries. That's true. Every team
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: gets injuries. And I do remember John Stanton on this
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: radio station to Dave Softy Maler on opening day back
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: in late March saying he said it. I wrote it
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  Speaker 2: for the News Tribune that day when I covered the opener.
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  Speaker 2: If we health willing, if we don't have injuries, we
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  Speaker 2: should compete for a World Series this year. John Stanton
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: said that on this air I wrote a story about
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: it the News Tribune. I went into the Park and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: talked to the players about it. Man Travis, it seemed
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: like haunting words.
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  Speaker 6: Now, well a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what are you gonna do? I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: are you going to do? I mean, this is their winter.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: They came with an eight hour last year of making
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: the World Series and brought almost everybody back, including the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: pitching staff. So of course your owner would say that,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: your chairman would say that. And it has not happened
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: at least yet. It is still till about twenty eighth.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: But Fortune five doesn't want to hear that, is it? Quote?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Still early question mark? I'm done with Jerry's fifty four
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: percent series. Crap. Yeah, that quote olit of an infamy
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: in the Pacific Northwest forever seven, eight to six, Back
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: to the same old Mariners. I guess we'll wait another
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: twenty plus years to see a competitive team that breaks
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: our hearts in the playoffs for one or two seasons,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: then repeat the cycle again two five three. The problem
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: is we have basically the same roster as last year
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: except for a few guys, and they're drastically underachieving from
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: the previous year. I should grab chuck power right now
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: over and say we can talk about the Mariners. We
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: could get chuck and just walked by and talk about this.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I get the cynicism. Man, fifty years without a World Series,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: you deserve to be a little cynicle. Jaden pissed off.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I've been here since ninety five, ninety
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: four as the first year I lived in Seattle. I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: get it. I mean, I get it. I understand completely,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: and I think as a Meredith fan, you're absolutely justified
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: to be upset and frustrated by.
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  Speaker 16: This, especially after what they showed last season, and they
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 16: set the bar so high and it's just been such
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 16: a disappointing you know, first half plus this year.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Right, But again, the only saving grades is it's only
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: two and a half games. It said that terrible division.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: It's only July twenty eighth. I keep telling to myself back,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: I know that people don't want to hear it anymore.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: We mentioned earlier if you missed the news earlier, the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: University of Washington announced this morning that at least Woodward,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: their longtime sideline reporter, was also broadcast Husky women's basketball
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: games and women's basketballs games nationally for Pectrol Networks and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Fox Sports. At least Woodward is going to be replacing
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: the departed Tony Castercone is the new voice of Husky's
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Football right here on your home with the Husky's ninety
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: three point three KHRFM, beginning out about a month or
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: so with the opener at the Apple Cup Washington State
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: in Washington at Husky STAIU. At least Woodward will be
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: on the play by play call the University of Washington
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: announcing that this morning, and man, hats off to her too.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: That's really cool. Four two five gonna be nice to see.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: At least first game we'll be a blowout win over
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: the Koops of a Will. That's a dig on j justsement.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure. But even Jessman was even Jument,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Jessman and at least have been friends for years. Even
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Jessman was saying how great it was that at least Woodard.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Congratulations to her, good friend of mine. It's great, It's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: just great. It's great for her to six ms. Don't
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: need another closer exclamation point. I got it, I got it.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: The Mason Miller's that's been floated out there, Andres Munos
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: is on track. I think it's what eighteen now scoreless innings.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Struck out the side in Texas the other day to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: get to save. Yeah, he seems to be back. It
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: seems to be fixed.
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  Speaker 16: But if you get start, then you probably move Munos
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 16: into the eighth.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: I would think probably He's.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 16: That makes the most sense in my mind.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I would think that would what you did.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: But I agree that they would. They don't need Mason Miller.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: They need bats. They also could use it set up
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: a reliever or three, but man, they needed about three
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: bats that can actually produce, especially against left handed pitching.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: As we know two O six, hold no trades till
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: the off season. That'd be interesting. Do nothing. How do
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: you think that would go over? Because the Poto he's
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: so active, right, he's he's always done something, a rose Arena,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: a Castillo.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 17: I mean he he always does something. And to do
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 17: nothing this year when your team has got such high
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 17: expectations so underperforming, Man, I would say no one would
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 17: show up at the park, but we know that's not true.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: They'll come out for bubble Ed's fireworks and the I'm
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: not game one other seven. They had thirty nine thousand
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: in the park when I went on that Wednesday against
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: the Reds and the homestown It was ninety five degrees
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: on a Wednesday afternoon at twelve thirty thirty eight thousand
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: people there almost thirty nine. So as a business model,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: we've mentioned this a few timestrips. As a business model,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: it's working. You keep your payroll in the middle of
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: the pack. You get the luxury tax revenue from the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: high spending Dodgers and Mets and Yankees, and get that revenue,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: you make your own revenue, or your top half of
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: the league in Major League Baseball, in own locally generated revenue,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: park and broadcasting, what all. And you're not spending as
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: much as other teams. You're competing ear least staying in
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: contention for playoffs, and and your crowds are thirty five
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: thousand plus. They're averaging more this year than they did
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: last year for the attendance, and of course saw a
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: lot of that is the residual of going to the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: America League Championship Series Game seven last year. And your
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: season ticket base goes higher, so your attendant's gonna get
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: higher if your season ticket base is higher. But still
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: as a business model, this is working.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 16: Mariners are top ten in attendance this season right in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 16: the league.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: That it's working as a business model now and on
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: the field as a competitive model, it's not working obviously
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: because they've never made the World Series in fifty years.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: But if you're the guys at the top, the twenty
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: some owners, the consortium that John Stanton is the chair of,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: as a business proposition, the Mariners are working, and that's
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: what drives fans crazy. I mean, I probably should even
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: remind people of that. Dustin says, couldn't be agree more
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: that the Mariners gotta be buyers, gotta still be buyers
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: with the roster and pitching staff we have, just need
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: to find a way to get in. I assume Dustin
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: means get in the playoffs. We've talked about this in
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Baseball first round playoffs. Five game series. With the pitching
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: staff the Mariners have, they should be favored to win
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: almost every five game series, almost maybe not. The Yankees
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: might be fair, even though Yankees have been down recently,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: but with their pitching staff they can win any series.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Trot four starters out there. Of course, they got a hit.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: You gotta hit home runs in the clutch in the
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: playoffs to get where they get and Hanny with Suarez
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: proved that in the the Trade Series and the Toronto
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Series last year in the playoffs. But to hold no
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: trades till offseason, that's an interesting I'm not sure how
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: this actually, I'm pretty sure traps how this region would
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: react to that.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: Not well, no, you gotta commit one way or the other.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: I think if they do nothing in stam Pat we're
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: only what six days from the trade deadline? Uh? Yeah,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: you hear the music in the background. Season ticket Holder
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Day here at Seahawks Trading Camp. What's the mascot is out? Fans?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Season ticket holders are starting to show up. The DJ's here,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: so they're starting to get rolling. Ian for Ness is here.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: He's gonna join me next talk about what he has
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: up on the show. If you missed the Derek holl interview,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: go to nine three three KGr dot com for the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: podcast at Greg Bell Show, or go to the heart
• 1:14:00
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• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: I'll catch up with Ian what he's got cooking next
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: on ninety three point three KJRFM. Welcome back, Welcome at
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell now joined by and for Nest, the Mayor
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: of Maple Valley.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: Check check check Hello Hey, you're turning into hell of
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  Speaker 6: a radio engineer.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Well done. Out here at Seahawks training camp in Virginia
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Mason Athletics Center, it's season ticket day. We just heard
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: the update on the break that the Eagles are signing
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: two time Pro Bowl defensive tackle Jalen Carter to a
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: four year, one hundred and fifty two million dollar extension.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of money. That's the richest contract ever
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: for an inter defensive lineman. Yep, Fire Murphy. I bet
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: he and his agent noticed that, even though he's only
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: in his thirds, coming into his thirds.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: And he ain't been as good as Carter yet.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: No, he hasn't.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 6: But it's at all you want, buddy, But.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: But but the point is is that tide drives all boats,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: and if that is the new market for an interior
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: defensive tackle, then his agent is going to notice that
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: it's one hundred and six million guaranteed for Jalon Carter
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: with the Eagles. Of course, the Seahawks had a chance
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: to draft Jaren Carter. They chose Devin Witherspoon. Again, I
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: don't think they regret that move.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, I listen.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 10: There were people member Carter's first year, though. There are
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 10: a lot of people critical of Schneider and his staff
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 10: for that pick because Witherspoon versus Carter and you know,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 10: I get it, understand it, but uh, that's almost like
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 10: picking your favorite child, like they're both really good. Then
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 10: you can decide who's more important. Devin Witherspoon plays one
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 10: hundred percent of the plays on defense. D Liman don't
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 10: I would. I'll take Witherspoon.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say McDonald would rather have Witherspoon for
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: the how he plays defensive.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 10: You know, somebody asked me this yesterday, Gregg and I
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 10: I thank you. I've talked about this with Devin Witherspoon.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: It was Andrews.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 10: Actually, actually we were talking about this yesterday a little bit,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 10: Gonzales versus Witherspoon, like who should be higher paid? And
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 10: I made the argument. I don't if you agree, but
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 10: I made the argument in Witherspoon's case, Gonzalez is a
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 10: boundary outside corner. He's think of Richard Sherman. Witherspoon is
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 10: a Swiss army knife. You can play four or five
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  Speaker 10: different spots and play them all at an all pro level.
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  Speaker 10: I would argue Witherspoon is a little bit more valuable
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  Speaker 10: than a McDuffie or Gonzalez type guy, just because of
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: his versatility, especially with this particular head coach and his
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 10: weird science mind of defense where he's got stuff going
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  Speaker 10: on all the time. I think Witherspoon's a little bit
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 10: more important.
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  Speaker 2: He's been an inside nickel during this training camp, and
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: they brought Neamiah Pritchett has now been the third outside corner.
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  Speaker 2: When they move to nickel and they put Witherspoon inside,
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  Speaker 2: people say, well, Witherspoon doesn't have the interception. Well, teams
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: don't throw it Witherspoon, by and large, his numbers of
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: targets have gone way down since his first couple of years,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: and his three time Pro Bowl pedigree precedes him. His
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: reputation precedes him in offensive game plans, and he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get a lot of passes thrown at him, which is
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: why he doesn't have the interception numbers, and he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get tested.
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  Speaker 6: And those are those are kind of interesting numbers, aren't they?
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  Speaker 6: Because that was a Sherman thing for a while.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, it was right, Like you take part of your values,
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  Speaker 10: you're taking away a third of the field.
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  Speaker 2: Is that And that's what he does, or the middle
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: or the middle of the field nickel right and not
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  Speaker 2: blitzing right right now he has he has blitz lest
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  Speaker 2: under McDonald the last two years, and he did his
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: rookie year under Carol And that's I think maybe an
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: evolution of McDonald with Witherspoon, maybe a higher blitz rate
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  Speaker 2: for him, especially as teams get used to Nicky even
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: warrior when he returns in his blitz packaging, then maybe
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: you start offsetting them and blitzing Witherspoon more. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think he's more valuable to how
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  Speaker 2: McDonald plays defense.
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  Speaker 6: What are you hearing on contract?
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  Speaker 2: It's close. That Also what could be delaying it is
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: the fact that Christen Gonzales and Devil Wetherspoon have the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: same agent and they could be playing leveraging off of
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: each other, the Seahawks and the Patriots.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 10: It's got to be complicated, right, because what we just
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 10: talked about, like, if you're the agent, you're again, who
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 10: are you favoring? Who's getting more money? And then if
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 10: that guy signs and the guy next other guy signs
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 10: the next day, then the other guy gets more money.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Right, But if you're the agency. The commission's the same.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get the commissioner either. You're making a lot
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: of money. So they're playing off each other, is what
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: I've told maybe happening here and to see who's going
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: to get the first, because whoever sets the bar first
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: is the next guy is going to win to eclips that.
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  Speaker 10: The indication though, is that they're closed. If no other reason,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 10: we're watching Devin Witherspoon participate fully and Gonzalez is doing
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 10: the same thing in New England, that's right, which is
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 10: a far cry from sitting in the same spot, what
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 10: about eight nine, ten years ago and looking out there
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 10: and seeing number twenty nine year old Thomas in a uniform,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 10: well in a jersey, but with a bucket hat on
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 10: and his arms folded yep, and holding in as they
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 10: say in the business, the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry to bring it out.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 10: Think you're a hundred you're accurate? How crazy is that
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 10: to think?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Now? Yes it is? Yes? Crazy? Is that? Yes it is?
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  Speaker 6: That might have been the beginning of the demise of
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: one Pete Carroll.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 10: By the way, uh that that situation, So who are
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: getting to right off the top. Well, because I'm following
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 10: the Beat Writer, Group Think Mentality, the Anthony Belt. Okay,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 10: I know you guys had a chance to talk about
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 10: the podium yesterday, and I've heard nothing but great things
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 10: about talking to him. His story you've written about, everyone's
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 10: talked about. It's it's a great one.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 10: And he's got an important role depending on even Worri's
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 10: health or lack thereof, and until then. But I think
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 10: he's would you say, even when even where it comes back,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 10: he's on this roster. Yes, That's why I thought, like,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: there's no messing around there.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: There's probably none of that taxing to the practice squad back.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: No, I don't think so either. I think it was
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: damn cool.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: They gave him a ring.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and the fact that he felt like he was
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 10: still a part of it. Such a cruel business, the NFL.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: What we didn't get into talking about in the show.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: He's a former Division two player at West Florida who
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: played for two junior colleges and then nobody wanted them.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: He couldn't play for anyone, no one would sign him,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: so for twenty seventeen, in the middle of his college career,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: he took a year off from school and didn't play
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: for anybody no football, and he was with a construction
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: company his dad owns in Georgia and was a volunteer
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: for his community church in rural Georgia. That's what the
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: starting nickel big nickel back for the Seahawks was doing
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 10: We'll we'll talk about that as well. So it's I'm
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 10: fascinated by talking about talking to him. I'm excited for that.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 10: We're gonna do that coming up top of the show today.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 10: We're gonna mally Wap at twelve twenty today.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, that'll be entertaining and uplifting experience.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 10: Why do you think the team struggling? I had people
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 10: texting it yesterday.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Where are those guys?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 10: And as the funny thing is, well, we're not gonna
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 10: do it. We're going a head to head with the
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 10: baseball game being on another station exactly. The funny thing
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 10: is a orrble time at one o'clock. We could have
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 10: done it because by then they were down seven to
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 10: two already. Anyway, they're coming on at twelve twenty, Joshian
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 10: one twenty and then John Lone at two o'clock talking
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 10: about Kyle Shanahan situation down there in the area.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: So, among other things.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: That's the in for Neest. Next from twelve until three
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: here from Seahawks training camp. Tomorrow, we're gonna have Riley
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Mills on the air. You'll hear from him in an
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: impressive training camp that he has had now that he's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: fully healthy and back from his reconstructive me Sir, you
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: got his first career sack in the Super Bowl. Thanks
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: for listening, Jess and I will be back with you tomorrow.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Have a great day. Ends up Next from Seahawks training
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: camp on ninety three point three kJ RFM