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#520 - Pak Joko · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: That's right, let's get it. Did the interview bootleg cap
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  Speaker 1: podcast special guests in here. I've been listening to this
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  Speaker 1: guy ship NonStop for like two weeks. Pat Joko, by Joco,
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  Speaker 1: Pa Joko, Thank you, Nail, And then we got Jay's
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  Speaker 1: here too, friend of the show, great producer. Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: what up? keV Ozampic Kalid is here. Uh so listen
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  Speaker 1: your fucking I love your style, bro, And this EU
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  Speaker 1: record is so gas it's amazing. It's viral as fuck.
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  Speaker 1: Uh where in the EU you're from? Hills right now?
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  Speaker 1: Chino Hills, the Land of the Balls, Land of the Balls. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: in more than one way, Yes, yeah, yep. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if what they do with LeVar Ball's foot once
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  Speaker 1: it gets cut off. Do they like probably buried it?
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  Speaker 1: Do they bury it in Gino Hills or do they
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  Speaker 1: like take it to a taxi derby spot and like
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  Speaker 1: put it up in the high school. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like a fucking like a moosehead. You
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  Speaker 1: know it's crazy anyway, man, Yeah, welcome to the show man.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Yeah. So, for people who
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  Speaker 1: don't know, you're going Viralin in Cali, right now. You
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  Speaker 1: got this record, I E. I E as sick as fuck.
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  Speaker 1: How long you've been making music.
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  Speaker 2: I've been taking music seriously for since twenty twenty two. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but I've been making music since I was fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm twenty three now, so you've been kind of fucking
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  Speaker 1: around with it, but it kind of started to take
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  Speaker 1: off for you recently. Yes, exactly. What was the first song?
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  Speaker 1: The first song I ever made? You're the one that made.
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  Speaker 2: You take it serious? It was my first EP that
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  Speaker 2: I dropped. It's still on my Spotify if you can
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  Speaker 2: scroll down. It's called New Stories EP. And then that
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  Speaker 2: was the EP that everybody fucked with. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 2: I just and then people started fucking me after that,
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  Speaker 2: and then I just kept going for sure.
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  Speaker 1: What would you say like? Because I feel like when
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  Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear like I hear a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Obviously there's a little Bay influence, some La influence.
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  Speaker 1: What would you grow up listening to?
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  Speaker 2: So actually it's not even what I grew up listening to?
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  Speaker 1: Is the way.
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  Speaker 2: When I first started taking rap seriously, I was roommates
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  Speaker 2: with the dude from Oakland.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that's my homie shot hip Max.
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  Speaker 2: But he was the one that because when I took
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  Speaker 2: music seriously when I moved to college and then up
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  Speaker 2: north in Money Money Bay. But originally I went to
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  Speaker 2: school thinking I wasn't going to do music anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna go to school just get it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like when you go to school and you move,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you're kind of just like putting it up
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  Speaker 1: on the mantle and like, Okay, I gotta go get
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  Speaker 1: serious about exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But then my roommate had a mic and then he
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  Speaker 2: was like, if you want to make music, just use
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  Speaker 2: my mic. And then he was from Oakland, so he
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  Speaker 2: showed me a lot of bay Arias ship and then
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  Speaker 2: we were just making songs together for fun.
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  Speaker 1: And then he was like the way he wrapped is
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  Speaker 1: very like Barria.
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  Speaker 2: So it influenced me to kind of match that energy
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  Speaker 2: in that cadence and then I just stuck with it.
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  Speaker 1: That's dope, man, Yeah yeah, And I was I was
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  Speaker 1: going through your ship that you even got like something
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  Speaker 1: like that bounce roll rock is like some old school
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  Speaker 1: like some function. Yeah, you got like a different lot
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  Speaker 1: of different bags you could get in. Yeah, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: I think. So how did this record go viral. Initially
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  Speaker 1: the I E record was it TikTok? It was yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Instagram reels. So I posted it. I hit up the
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  Speaker 1: homie that does videos. We make a little video for
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  Speaker 1: it of me hanging out the window. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you've seen that.
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  Speaker 2: You've seen it, yes, yeah, just me hanging out the window.
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  Speaker 2: And then I remember I was I was with the
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  Speaker 2: homie and then my girl, and I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: should just take my shirt off.
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  Speaker 1: And then that's what I feel like made it go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean obviously hanging out the window with no shirt on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like the the you know, the cream on top
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  Speaker 1: of the ca Yeah, exactly, So recipe for success. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there you go.
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  Speaker 2: And then because I already feel like the shot itself
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  Speaker 2: was already very dynamic, and then just went crazy and
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  Speaker 2: just to have no shirt on just made it crazier.
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  Speaker 1: So it's crazy because it's like that There's been obviously
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  Speaker 1: artists from the ie that have been like successful, but
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  Speaker 1: like this has got to be the anthem forever. Now.
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  Speaker 1: It's like up in the fucking rafters. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's up there for sure. It's
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  Speaker 1: among among the top. What else is up there? Blessed
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  Speaker 1: the Bottle, Blessed the Bottle. That's a fact. That's a party.
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  Speaker 1: That's party, classic, party classic right there. That's it's so
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  Speaker 1: funny because Blessed the Bottle is like a record that
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  Speaker 1: like if you probably like Live Past Arizona, you've never heard.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it's a Cali thing, for sure, it's a Cali theme,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of people think it's from like the
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  Speaker 2: Bay though for sure, like La, people don't really think.
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  Speaker 1: It's from the Ie.
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  Speaker 2: So you grew up in Chino Hills, So actually I
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  Speaker 2: was born in La lived in Chino Hills until I
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  Speaker 2: was four basically, and then I grew up in Portland
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  Speaker 2: in Portland Organ.
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  Speaker 1: Oh where the Fetanyel's at?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, where the tweakers? Yes, crazy out there, it's.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to Portland a lot. I'm on the radio
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  Speaker 1: out there. Oh, yeah, I've been to Portland. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: fucked up. When did you leave Portland? When I was fourteen?
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  Speaker 1: I was fourteen?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, So when I first when I moved back,
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  Speaker 2: I live with my grandma now in China Hills. So
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  Speaker 2: when I first moved my grandma, that's when I kind
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  Speaker 2: of like started to experiment with music, right, like writing
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  Speaker 2: songs and stuff, and then it's still on my SoundCloud.
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  Speaker 2: If you go up on my SoundCloud, you can go
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  Speaker 2: scroll down and see all the old stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of artists like to deleat that ship,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but honestly, I think it's good because people can
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  Speaker 2: see how far.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you ever have a Grammy in your
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  Speaker 1: hand one day, like you could go listen to the old.
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  Speaker 2: Ship listening to my very first and it's like sounds terrible,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Like also kind of like bay Ish, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Seattle and darn Yeah, you're right, like all the Bay
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  Speaker 1: Area artists be cracking up. There.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people in Portland like like Sacramento rap, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like Sacramento rap, Bay Area rap. A lot of people
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  Speaker 2: in Portland and like that area like that that that
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  Speaker 2: kind of music for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I feel like that resonates with them
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  Speaker 1: more than like La rap for you. Uh, when people
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  Speaker 1: listen to your music, do they think you're Mexican? Like
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  Speaker 1: the chingod it's like very much like a fuck immigration anthem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah in today's climate, yeah, but you're fucking from Indonesia, right,
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  Speaker 1: But if you listen to the song you're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: you want you don't want them to deport your girl? Right,
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  Speaker 1: who's here? Yes, she's she's still here. Good legal, she's legal.
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  Speaker 1: But but sho, it's all the illegals. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: all illegal. But but did you like because you made
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  Speaker 1: it with zay Sace made the bet? We did? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we made the whole song. Was that like a just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like inspired exactly with what's happening right now
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  Speaker 1: in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, So the way that song came about, I originally
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  Speaker 2: I came to Zays's studio with an idea for a beat.
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  Speaker 1: He executed the beat, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then I was with my two homies, uh, my Mexican homies,
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  Speaker 2: and then I just heard one of them say ching amga.
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  Speaker 2: They were just talking about they were just like on
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  Speaker 2: their phones talking about something and they're just like chiing alagra.
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  Speaker 2: And then I just heard it and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I got to put that in the song.
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  Speaker 2: And then so if you go into my old music,
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  Speaker 2: I have a song called I Love Asians. So I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna just make another song called I
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  Speaker 2: Love Latina's. But then I started with Chicka Lamigra. Then
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  Speaker 2: after I showed it to other people, people just started
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  Speaker 2: calling it chick a lamia, so I just called it that.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a great fucking it's an anthem, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you guys haven't in the video, have you. It's it's shot.
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  Speaker 1: It's shot. It's shot.
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  Speaker 2: We're just gonna we're gonna drop it next week, next week,
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  Speaker 2: next probably end of the next week or beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the week after next week.
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  Speaker 1: Have you had any labels knocking, labels like trying to
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  Speaker 1: get at you labels?
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  Speaker 2: No, but managers, yes, yes, yeah, Like I haven't gotten
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  Speaker 2: a direct DM from.
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  Speaker 1: A label yet. That's what's up. But you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing. We had a rapper here
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  Speaker 1: the other day and he was like, yo, I might
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  Speaker 1: try to sign that kid. Oh yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, interesting, it's crazy. So, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, would there be I I
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  Speaker 1: E remix being worked on with some other I E artists,
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  Speaker 1: So I have uh an I E remix.
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  Speaker 2: However, the timing is kind of difficult right now with
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  Speaker 2: everything going on.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like you already have the remix. I
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  Speaker 1: do have the remix oh yes, but a remix. I
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  Speaker 1: have a remix, but I feel like, oh yeah, can
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  Speaker 1: we get you on the mic a little bit? Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can lower it too.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, exactly, Okay, I got you right right here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what you said, White remix. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, because I just thought about it, this
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  Speaker 2: is like it's going crazy. You know, the ie song
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  Speaker 2: is going crazy. If this is gonna be my song,
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  Speaker 2: then I just wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: Be my song. Well also like it's going crazy for
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  Speaker 1: you and for the people who know. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it hasn't like eclipsed, like the fucking where it's
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  Speaker 1: like a thing thing, and I think it's on its way.
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  Speaker 1: So when it becomes that, then you could be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like when Soak City came out, like Silk
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  Speaker 1: City was like, you know, if you were going to
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  Speaker 1: fucking eighteen and up clubs, you heard it. If you're
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  Speaker 1: on TikTok, you heard it. But when it became like
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  Speaker 1: a fucking thing for reals, when he could drop that
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  Speaker 1: remix remix, only I E artists could be on this though, right.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, it could be it just like become
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  Speaker 2: my West West coast.
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  Speaker 1: I told somebody, I said, we need somebody in Arizona
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  Speaker 1: to do it, asyzzy. Yeah, that's a good idea. Be cool. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to just go drop.
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  Speaker 2: We're planning on dropping a third single soon, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: just trying to drop three singles and then that's when
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  Speaker 2: I would I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I see you doing the shows and they're going crazy
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  Speaker 1: singing sh Yeah. Is it mostly like kids? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Like college students right, yeah, but I feel like that's
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  Speaker 2: my demographic for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Which college campus are you the most little in what
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  Speaker 1: you say?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Locally cap poly Pomona?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, because because I do a lot of
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  Speaker 2: shows on Pomona and I know a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: People at that school. I still got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: friends there. So have you been to Indonesia ever in
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  Speaker 1: your life? Yes? Last time I went to Indonesia is
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. I wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: I was good.
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  Speaker 1: I heard it's beautiful, it is beautiful. You can't bring
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  Speaker 1: no weed over there. No, Yeah, you get locked up
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  Speaker 1: because the fuck? Yeah yeah, you get locked up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like if you.
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  Speaker 2: Were you're getting put in jail if you get caught
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  Speaker 2: with coke, like it's over no, like literally, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: like they there's like banners.
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  Speaker 1: It's like if you get caught with like cope and
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  Speaker 1: it has a school, so like yeah, you fuck, you're
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  Speaker 1: like you're actually they're in the Philippines. They don't funk
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  Speaker 1: around right like Yeah, it's like imagine like having the
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  Speaker 1: balls to be a drug dealer in those countries. That's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: like because they're there, Yeah, just just playing with their
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  Speaker 1: life every day. Yeah, but it's cool. It's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's I heard, it's beautiful, it's clean.
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  Speaker 2: It is clean, it depends, yeah, it's it's at their
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  Speaker 2: world country.
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  Speaker 1: You know, maybe malays I'm thinking of Malaysia. One of
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  Speaker 1: them countries is supposed to Singapore, Singapore maybe, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: Singapore is where there's like no trash, like no littering Singapore. Yeah, Singapore,
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  Speaker 1: Indonesia there's littering. God. Yeah, that's where Bali's at though. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: One of my homies is an mm A fighter. He's
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  Speaker 1: got a he lives in Bali's ship.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Balle's cool. It's Bali's very tourists already.
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  Speaker 1: Have you been the Bomb? Yeah, I've been a couple
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  Speaker 1: of times. Yeah. Oh yeah, I mean that's your country.
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  Speaker 1: So you're outside. It's the homeland, right, Yeah, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta do a show out there is a scene.
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  Speaker 2: They're Indonesians will will come out for sure. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: matter if they're inter rap but if they have a
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  Speaker 2: they like someone to pop out. Yeah, where we gotta
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: get you booked on Rolling Out Thailand, Rolling Loud Thailand.
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  Speaker 1: My homies run that ship. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know there was a rolling Loud out there,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna ask you, I was loud talking amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but they have a bunch of like theyn't have
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  Speaker 1: like don't have like their American like headliners, you know, right,
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  Speaker 1: like like rappers from here. Yeah. Yeah, like last this
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  Speaker 1: last year was like Playboy Cardi with Khalifa a Kon.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like obviously the lineup's not as crazy as
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  Speaker 1: it would be in the States. Yeah, but then there's
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  Speaker 1: like all these like Thai artists that you would never
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  Speaker 1: never even know are fucking like cracking and like like
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  Speaker 1: fucking thirty thousand people singing all these songs and they're like,
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  Speaker 1: who the fuck are these people? You know? Yeah, that's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but they're doing their thing. Like there's a dope scene
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  Speaker 1: out there, Stupid Young's cracking out. He was on on
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  Speaker 1: the Thailand lineup. Yeah, him and Shorty Shorty, they had
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  Speaker 1: a wave going out there. But just Stupid Young is
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  Speaker 1: like a thing in Thailand for sure, which and he's
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  Speaker 1: from Cambodia. I think he's uh yeah, that's what's up.
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  Speaker 1: Dude's who's been like the coolest person you've seen kind
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  Speaker 1: of just like fuck with the music. I saw Big
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  Speaker 1: Boy shouting you out, like, yeah, probably it had to
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  Speaker 1: be a big Boy. Yeah, that ship was dope. That
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  Speaker 1: was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I remember when I when I saw that video, I
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  Speaker 2: was I was, I was just in my car and
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  Speaker 2: I was just like yelling.
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  Speaker 1: Like this is crazy, this is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would have thought Big Boys, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have like a DJ pack for this song
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  Speaker 1: where you're like servicing it for like like a clean
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  Speaker 1: version and shit, we got a DJ peg just gonna
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  Speaker 1: make sure. Man. Yeah, Zace, you're kind of working with
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  Speaker 1: everybody who's on the come up in l A right now.
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  Speaker 1: Who's everybody you've worked with besides this young man and
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  Speaker 1: uh Alexis via.
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  Speaker 3: Alexis via huh oh man, I'm working with the drummer boy. Yeah, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm working with Big Swift. I'm working with Self Provoked.
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  Speaker 1: Self Provoked is an eight legend. Yes he is. I
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  Speaker 1: just shouted him out yesterday. I couldn't think of his name.
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  Speaker 1: I was like self because he was coming up when
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  Speaker 1: it was like Devour, Drummer Boy and all them guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we we're back in the studio working, uh
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  Speaker 3: man a little bit of everybody?
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  Speaker 1: Bro is it hard? Like like these days being a
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  Speaker 1: producer with so many beats, Just like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: artists they just go to YouTube like we obviously you know,
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  Speaker 1: I have a studio here. So many rappers that we
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: have the book sessions, They're like, yo, just pull up
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: this beat on YouTube and download it that I found.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: It's like, how the fun does that work?
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: But a lot of these guys that's how they find
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: their beats, and they're like recording and releasing songs that
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: they don't even have a lease.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: On right with the tags all through the beats.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: No, it's crazy, but you've kind of figured out a
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: way to kind of like make sure you're you know,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you have a thing. You have a buzz. When I
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: talk to people, you come up a lot. So that's good.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: To hear.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I like to just get in a
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: studio artists. Yeah, that's really hard from scratch, work from scratch,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: and it eliminates like me sending out beats and maybe
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: accidentally sending out the same beat twice, Like it's just
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: easier that way. And then also to catch the vibe
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: and you know what I mean, go in the direction
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: just I don't know, I like cooking like that real producer,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: who do.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: You want to work with? That is kind of maybe
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: obviously in the realm of possibilities out here in LA,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: it would be dope to work with. I think, like,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: oh gz, I haven't worked with O. G. Hard?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Kaylin for real, he's hard.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Man, I've just been working my way there. I'm sure
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: it happened sooner for sure.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's dope man. So for you, you got
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: another single you're working on. You said that you got
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: three singles, so you just dropped the second of the three. Uh, yes,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: so there's a third one coming here, we got third
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: one coming. Uh. What's it called stink? Stink? It's called stink. Yeah,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: So just some some different do you really like when
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: a girl gets you head and the mochos come out
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: because that's called nah. Yeah, it's like it's like that's
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: love right there. No, it's love, but it's also just
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: kind of gross, right, Like if you see the boogers,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: like like the slobbers good, the tears are good, but
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: if you see boogers, it's almost like a boner killer, right, boogers.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: That's real though, it's real, But it's like you got
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: a cold.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, you know what I was just I was just
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: speaking of emotion when.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I wrote that. You know, you got some wild ass
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: lions dog that you.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I try to keep it wild though, you know, it's
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: it's exciting to keep it wild. It's like it's it's
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: all about just I like writing some crazy ship, going
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: in the studio, recording in and just laughing after. You know, like, no,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: it's you got a lot of character to your fun,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you know, No, it's it's character.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Character it comes to the music. Yeah. Yeah, you're a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: lot more calm than I expected. I expected. Like I
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: was about a wild ass fool about to come in here,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, right, I figure he's gonna
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: come with a two liters amountain do dog? You know
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying some firecrackers. Who knows. Yeah, I'm pretty called.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Who do you want to work with? Man? Is there
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: anybody out there that you want to like fucking tap
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: in with? It's kind of on your on your list.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like you and Pilo would be hard, not
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: because you're both Asian, but also because you're both Asian
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: for sure? For sure, Pilo.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: For sure, Pilo. I. I want to work with Leo,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: but what I really want to do with them?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Pause? Fine, It's fine. You hadn't got to the pause
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: part yet.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I want to do a show like me x Nee
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Leo X, just like an Asian artist show.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I think that'd be dope. Now, that'd
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: be hard, That'd be dope. Is there like for you?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Do you like? Because I feel like your music is
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: is like like I said, if you listen to it,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: you don't necessarily know you're Asian? For you, do you
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: feel like the you know, like you gotta like carry
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: that flag because it's not a lot of Asian artists,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: but it's it's starting to change, like tweets going crazy.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Obviously Pelo has been going fucking stupid, but there's a
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: lot more dope art like stupid young's got plaques, you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, I think it's important to
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: tell people for sure.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I think just being able to
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: embrace it in your music, you know, and just like
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: being into being able to embrace.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Like how you grew up and kind of just relating
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: that in your music. I love it. Uh when a
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: girl speaks time on these to you, do you do
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you understand? Do you have to pull out the duelingo?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: So, so, I don't know if you know that I
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: said checks my checks straight Taiwanese. Oh I think you
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: said chicks, right. I think that it is checks. I
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: need to upload the lyrics to Spotify.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: So it's checked. It's checks.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: It's because the place I work at is a Taiwanese restaurant.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Oh you're working at a Taiwanese restaurant. Yeah? Nice? So
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you know, So is it like do people come in
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and they're like, oh shit? Sometimes? Yeah, what do you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: do there, waiter? I'm a cashier out in front of
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the house, front of the house. Easy, Hey to go
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: order here? Yeah exactly. Yeah. Once you get into the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: inside of the restaurant, it's fucking it's too much. Yeah,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: it's not my job. You can enjoy podcast in front
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: of the house. Yeah, yeah, I'm always like listening to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: music writing. I worked at a Chinese restaurant when I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: was a kid. Yeah, I was a fucking bus boy.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: That shit sucked. Nah. Yet these motherfuckers would be in
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the back smoking cigarettes while cooking. I'm talking about ashes
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: falling in the food and they would just keep cooking.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And I remember being back there washing the dishes, like
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: just these old ass Chinese dudes. I'm talking about like
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: seventy year old dudes smoking cigarettes in the kitchen. I'm fourteen,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm just watching like cigarette ashes following the food,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, I just had lunch here.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I hate the food here the fuck that's the flavor
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: it did? It was good. Hey, and the place was
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you know, good reviews, still open stuff. But I wouldn't snitch.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say the name. It's a place
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: in Mesa, Arizona, but I'm not gonna say the name. Hans.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: You know it's a good place though. That's good. So
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: you're Taiwanese food, is it? Like? How different is that
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: than fucking Chinese food? Is similar? It's similar. Yeah, so
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: it's really an Asian fusion place. So we have like everything.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: We got a bachi run in, but we also have
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: like a Taiwanese stuff. You gotta do a show outside
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: of the restaurant. Yeah, right the day you quit. Yeah,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: tell people pull up, just pull up, do a show
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: on top of the car. They probably wouldn't appreciate. It
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: makesure you get your final check. Yeah, I'll be like, uh,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: pull up to the show. But you have to support
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the business. You got to support the business. Everybody you
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: go in spend order something, order something. That's the rule.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Exactly how long you.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Worked there, I've been working there on and off. That
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: was my seasonal job when I was in college. So
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I went to school up north, but every time I
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: went back home, Yeah, for summer break, winter break, I
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: just be.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Working with Would you go to school for work? Do
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you have communications? Yeah? I feel like communications is one
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: of those like generic majors. Yeah, like business when people
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: say I got a big business mak, what does that mean?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Communications you just learn about You learn about the next
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: step of a conversation, for sure, like and you learn
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: how to talk to all different kinds of people, understand
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: like the dynamics and how you can change a conversation
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: based on tell you how you come.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like if you hang out with a pimp
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, you get all that. Yeah,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: not for sure, you don't need to go to school
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: for it, for sure. For community, I mean you should
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: go to school. I always say, unless you have some
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: shit figured out, yeah, and you kind of know what
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you want to do that doesn't involve school, just go
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to school to get the experience, right, I agree. And
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: then if like whatever you want to chase comes to you,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: or you figure out, hey, what I want to do
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't have nothing to do with this year, but at
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: least go get the experience, get the life experience.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: If you go to school, it gives you a lot
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: of time a lot of the times. If you have
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a major like communications, you have a lot of free
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: time in college, and usually you're loan, so it's it's good.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: That's when I really figured out in college that I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: wanted to do music. You know, did you be chilling
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: in the room Homei's got the mic.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, and none. But I mean, like I was
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: living like student life, music life. But at the end
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: of the day, I knew I wanted to do music.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: So I was like, I also just get this communication major.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: For my music too. Might help in the future. But
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you make beats it all. Nah, he'll beats one day,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: he'll teach you, mate.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Jace, what are you making shit on foot loops?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: No? Able To Ableton gang? The Ableton gang. Isn't that
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: what TK uses? Yes, such a ship. I always heard Ableton.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: It's just so difficult compared to all the other ship.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: It looks difficult, but once you learn it, it's like
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: the quickest.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Well because you can set at bpm right, like of
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: a beat in able To. Because DJs use it. I've
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: seen DJs like make transitions.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: It's good for life because you can record your set
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: right and you could like all the parameters.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: But I've seen dudes like like have a beat or
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: something in their session and then they'll set a bpm
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and it'll speed it up or slow it down or.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they got the warp the warp the warp function.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what c IRUs hates Ableton? This was a hater
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: lang shots. Are you on fruity loops? I feel like
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: fruity loops is like the opposite end of the spectrum,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Like anybody can learn that ship, you know, but it
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter as long as the beats are dope. Who
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: gives a fuck. People used to make beats on the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: PlayStation true back in the day, the funk Master Flex
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: video game. They had a whole it was like Fruity
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Loops MTV generator. Yeah, that shit was a vibe all right, man.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: So look the new songs out and you have another
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: song on the way called stink. Is this about private parts?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: About weed? It is about private parts.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: It's it's kind of like a we're trying to make
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: like a little club banger, you know.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Is it an ode to women's do sting? Not necessarily,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: but is it you know, like when you're in the club,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: it starts thinking for sure. Yeah yeah, if you if
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you walk down to that dance floor, sometimes it's stinks.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Stinks, and then you'll ya talk about that stink.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful stench, but it's a stench. That's why
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: it's like, if you're gonna pick up a girl at
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the club, you gotta make a shower first. She been
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: fucking for she been drinking, dancing, sweating all night. Pipe
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: took a ship at the club. Yeah, it's funky what
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: clubs you go to a lot of college parties. The
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: college party. I really don't. I really, I'm not a
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: clubbing person. I don't like are you wait, how would
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you say you were twenty three? You're old enough to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: get into a club. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: But I'm not a clubbing person. I don't like going
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to clubs spending hell of money for no reason.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: No, you got to go get booked. There you go. See,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: that's which is gonna start happening.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this weekend, I got I got to Oh
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: really go to two clubs this weekend. Yeah, the Basement
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and Pomona Fire and Arena OC Dope.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, you're gonna start getting all them bags.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Ontario's got a spy, you know, the whole
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you know. And then it's just gonna keep spreading. So yeah,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and then are you like how often are you like like?
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Because I see you post like posting and promoting the
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: fuck out of your music, which a lot of artists
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: don't do, right, which is crazy because why why wouldn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you want to promote your own ship? Yeah? How often
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: do you post? Like to make sure people kind of
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: like you throw a shot into the algorithm. Uh for this.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: For the past month, I've been posting three times a day.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: That's important, but that's just because there's a lot of engagement.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: So I was actually getting good numbers. But now I'm
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: posting like twice a day.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: But that's what you gotta do. And you got two
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: hot records.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Exactly, so I can just bounce back, you know, so
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: it's always something new.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, man, there it is. Brother. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: appreciate you pulling up what's your Instagram? For people who don't.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Instagram at p A K J Zero Okyo by Joko
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and by Jo going all platforms.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Going crazy, shout out the i E best song out
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: right now, shut up, keV my guy, Thank you man.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: What's your Instagram?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Zay sondo z A y C E h U N
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: d O.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: If you're a rapper, buy some fucking beats from this guy.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Tap in studio time, studio time, all that custard beats.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Where's your studio at.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Think Lindoras far Yeah, drum boys, people come. Yeah, we're
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: all teams.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: So okay. Yeah, the Zeace appreciate you.