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AMC Theaters. We Make Movies Better. · The Bechdel Cast

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Speaker 1: going to be an intersectional feminist discussion of drumroll please?
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Speaker 1: The Nicole Kitman AMC commercial that shows right before the
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Speaker 1: movie starts only at AMC theaters, and I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 1: only in America. There are a few countries in Europe
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Speaker 1: that I believe they've got it, have been exposed to this,
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Speaker 1: but yes, it is mostly a thing from the US,
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Speaker 1: so uh here, if you live in a country where
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Speaker 1: you haven't had the pleasure. I would hope that they
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Speaker 1: show it in Australia, where Nicole Kitman from, but I
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Speaker 1: don't really know. I don't know where AMC movie theaters
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Speaker 1: are and I don't care to know, but I will
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Speaker 1: say that I this has come up in conversations with
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Speaker 1: two of my Canadian friends this week. Okay, we've got
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Speaker 1: international friends. I've got a couple Canadian and you know what.
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Speaker 1: And while we're at it, it's recently International Women's Day
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Speaker 1: and yeah, my friend Sarah is from Canada, so yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: but but the thing is, um, most people who live
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Speaker 1: in Canada are like, what are you talking about. They're like,
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Speaker 1: I've seen the meme, I haven't experienced it, and you
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Speaker 1: really do need to experience that. We're gonna try to
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Speaker 1: take you there today because I mean, obviously there's a
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Speaker 1: lot to unpack, but for for those who haven't heard
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Speaker 1: it before, we're just going to play the full audio
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Speaker 1: here so you can experience it for yourself. So the
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Speaker 1: commercial does also include video. Here's the audio. It's also
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Speaker 1: readily available on YouTube, so we'll also provide the YouTube
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Speaker 1: link if you can actually pause the episode and rent
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Speaker 1: out a movie theater if there's not an AMC in
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Speaker 1: your area, just rent out a movie theater and play
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Speaker 1: this YouTube clip because you do have to kind of
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Speaker 1: see it in a theater. Yes, if that's not possible.
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Speaker 1: Here's the audio from the commercial that we will be
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Speaker 1: talking about today. We come to this place for magic.
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Speaker 1: We come to AMC Theaters to love, to cry, to care,
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Speaker 1: because we need that, all of us. An indescribable feeling
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Speaker 1: we get when the lights begin to dip and we
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Speaker 1: go somewhere we've never been before, not just entertained it
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Speaker 1: somehow informed together dazzling images on a huge silver screen,
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Speaker 1: sound that I can feel somehow. Heartbreak feels good in
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Speaker 1: a place like this. Our heroes feel like the best
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Speaker 1: part of us, and stories feel perfect and powerful because
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Speaker 1: here they are. AMC Theats make movies. Okay, myself so
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Speaker 1: much to unpack. You've heard it, you've experienced it from
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Speaker 1: an audio standpoint. Sound. I could feel sound, You can
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Speaker 1: feel sound. I could feel. So let's get I mean, Caitlin,
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Speaker 1: what's your history with the Nicole Kevin AMC commercial. Well,
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Speaker 1: I saw it for the first time at the end
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Speaker 1: of I believe it first premiered in September. Yes, I
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Speaker 1: think I saw it. It played in theaters right before
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Speaker 1: shan Chi. I believe that's when I first saw it. Exciting.
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Speaker 1: I have seen it dozens of times since then, and
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Speaker 1: I would say, you love the movie. I love going
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Speaker 1: to the movies, and specifically AMC theaters. Because I do
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Speaker 1: not to brag or anything, have an AMC A List
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Speaker 1: stubs membership where you can see up to three movie
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Speaker 1: fees a week, all the fees waved, etcetera, etcetera. You're
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Speaker 1: not going to believe this. I have that as well, Jamie. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I saw I saw Syra No this week. Oh yeah, No,
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Speaker 1: I didn't see any together that were good. I went
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Speaker 1: with a friend of the show, Melissa Lozada Aliva. We
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Speaker 1: saw Syra Now and then we went to the cheesecake factory. Well,
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Speaker 1: thanks for inviting me. Gee whiz, I'm I'm sorry. It's
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Speaker 1: a date. Honestly, can you see every You see most movies,
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Speaker 1: but you always see all the good movies. And my
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Speaker 1: AMC history is so embarrassing it's horrible. Okay, So you
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Speaker 1: saw you saw Nicole kivin AMC commercial before Hunch. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and I've seen it dozens of times since, and I
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Speaker 1: would say it is my favorite ad for AMC Theaters
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Speaker 1: starring Nicole Kidman, favorite of all time. Yes, to quote,
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Speaker 1: my favorite eat from this year when Nicole Kidman was
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Speaker 1: nominated for being the Ricardos and not the AMC commercial
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Speaker 1: that was not fighting for gay rights. And I can't
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Speaker 1: help but agree. I think it's, you know, it's extremely
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Speaker 1: obvious where the performance really was because Nicole Kidman. And
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Speaker 1: I think this has been kind of pointed out. And
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Speaker 1: I say this with love because she's obviously we know
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Speaker 1: she's she's a great actress. She's been in so many classics.
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Speaker 1: She's in kind of a flop era right now. One
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Speaker 1: could say, I would make the argument, and I'm not
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Speaker 1: the only person saying this. Being the Ricardos couldn't get
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Speaker 1: through it. Don't really know anyone that could. That thing
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Speaker 1: on Hulu not good. I don't even know what you're
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Speaker 1: talking about. That thing on HBO that wasn't Big Little
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Speaker 1: Lies with Hugh Grant. I did watch every episode, but
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Speaker 1: she was constantly a staged by her jackets in that show,
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Speaker 1: and they were fabulous jackets. But that's not you know,
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Speaker 1: she's just in kind of a bizarre phase of her career.
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Speaker 1: And then and then a performance like this and you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I mean she never left the Comeback of the Century.
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Speaker 1: Just quick side note, I will say that I am compelled.
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Speaker 1: I have not seen the show on HBO. I am
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Speaker 1: compelled by it though, because it starts the two Villains
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Speaker 1: of the Two Paddington movies, so you really would think
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Speaker 1: that it was going to be better. I kind of
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Speaker 1: want to rewatch it because that show I don't even
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Speaker 1: remember what it was called, but it was like a
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Speaker 1: Sunday night HBO show. I usually watch those, whether I
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Speaker 1: like them or not, because I don't know. I like Caitlin,
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Speaker 1: You're a Movie, Galt. I watched TV in real time
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Speaker 1: a lot of the time. It's called the Undoing. I wonder.
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Speaker 1: I feel like it aired like very much during Lockdown,
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Speaker 1: and it was like but it was like deep into Lockdown.
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Speaker 1: It was all so airing during the election, so I
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Speaker 1: was just like, I know that everyone was like that
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Speaker 1: show was weird. It wasn't very good, but it happened
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Speaker 1: at such a chaotic time that I think is either
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Speaker 1: a little bit better than we were giving a credit for,
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Speaker 1: or my suspicion, much worse. So we'll never We'll never know.
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Speaker 1: I don't care to watch it again. All that to say,
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Speaker 1: She's back, She's back. This is the greatest commercial I've
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Speaker 1: ever seen, So yeah, tell me about your history and
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Speaker 1: your relationship with AMC Theaters period we make movies better
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Speaker 1: period starring Nicole Kidman, So I am looking through my
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Speaker 1: AMC history. I believe the first time I would have
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Speaker 1: seen this would have been when I was seeing an
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Speaker 1: eleven ten in the morning screening of Spencer, the Christen
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Speaker 1: Stewart Princess Diana movie, which I liked, and I had
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Speaker 1: heard about the commercial. I had not experienced the commercial,
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Speaker 1: and I was immediately hooked. I feel like it completely.
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Speaker 1: I feel it's a good movie to see it right
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Speaker 1: before too, because Spencer is all about like just kind
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Speaker 1: of you're like, you're never quite sure what's going on.
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Speaker 1: You never you don't know who to trust, who to believe.
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Speaker 1: You're like, what is happening here? And that's the exact
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Speaker 1: feeling I get when I watched Nicole Kidman AMC commercial,
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Speaker 1: except I don't think it's supposed to feel that way,
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Speaker 1: but that's why it's beautiful. Where the first time I
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Speaker 1: saw the Nicole Kidman commercial bring the House Down, because
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the history of the commercial. I saw
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Speaker 1: it first Bring the House Down at a screening of
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Speaker 1: House of Gucci because Peanut butter and jelly of dissonant content. Um.
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Speaker 1: People were flipping for for the Nicole Kidman commercial because
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Speaker 1: there is kind of even though it's you know, not
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Speaker 1: been around for very long. People didn't like it at first,
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Speaker 1: They're like, what is this? I hate it? I'm confused.
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Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman hasn't even been in a movie we that
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Speaker 1: has like premiered in theaters in like three years, so
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Speaker 1: why her of all people? She's been doing streaming stuff.
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Speaker 1: But then you know, there was this shift sometime in
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Speaker 1: the late fall and it and it does coincide, and
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Speaker 1: this commercial was partially made to encourage people to go
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Speaker 1: back to the movies when it was safe and by
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Speaker 1: winter time, by like the holiday season movies. People were
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Speaker 1: in love with this commercial. They loved it to the
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Speaker 1: point where when they shortened the commercial, there was a
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Speaker 1: petition with thousands of signatures to make it a minute
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Speaker 1: long again. And I have not experienced this myself yet,
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Speaker 1: but I've heard tell of when this commercial comes on
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Speaker 1: in theaters, many audience members will recite the monologue along
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Speaker 1: with I can confirm that. Okay, I have yet to
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Speaker 1: experience this. I did see The Batman last night. You
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Speaker 1: said long but good, long, but good correct and reaction
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Speaker 1: that the audience had when Nicole Kinman's AMC commercial came
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Speaker 1: on at an AMC. They don't really need to be
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Speaker 1: advertising AMC when you're already at an AMC. But you're
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Speaker 1: already there, and there's always such a like love hate
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Speaker 1: relationship with AMC because most people are there because they
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Speaker 1: have the most affordable membership. It's not because it's the
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Speaker 1: best movie theater. But you know, so people are kind
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Speaker 1: of at AMC under duress, but that's kind of part
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Speaker 1: of the fun exactly. So the commercial starts to play,
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Speaker 1: you only need to see it for like a few
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Speaker 1: frames before you know exactly what you're seeing. And the
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Speaker 1: moment we see that puddle, oh my gosh, is it
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Speaker 1: rating in the commersional but I mean, just an explosion
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Speaker 1: of applause and cheers the moment it comes on screen,
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Speaker 1: and I get why, Like it's it's an incredible piece
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Speaker 1: of cinema. It has everything that I love about and
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Speaker 1: it's truly does that commercial not make movies better? Because
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Speaker 1: I would say it does. It now makes me want
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Speaker 1: to go to we're recording this on Friday evening. It
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Speaker 1: kind of makes me want to go see The Batman
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Speaker 1: tonight because I just I've never seen this commercial in
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Speaker 1: like a packed theater calling out House of Gucci for
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Speaker 1: maybe not packing the theaters as they thought they might.
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Speaker 1: I've seen it in half full theaters a couple of times,
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Speaker 1: but I have not seen, you know, like the way
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Speaker 1: that we used to see movies. This commercial is so special,
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Speaker 1: and I think we should I mean, should we get
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Speaker 1: into the recap. Yeah, yeah, let me recap it and
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Speaker 1: then we will go from there. Okay. So setting the scene,
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Speaker 1: it is a cold, foggy night. It's not actively raining,
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Speaker 1: but it has just rained because there's a puddle. One
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Speaker 1: of the most iconic opening shots of all time, I
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Speaker 1: would say, is Nicole Kevin's heel landing directly in a puddle,
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Speaker 1: as if Nicole Kidman in her five thousand dollar shoes
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Speaker 1: would be stepping in up avoid a puddle. It seems
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Speaker 1: so intentional that you're like, surely this is going to
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Speaker 1: come back later in the film. It does not. It
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Speaker 1: does not. So the whole purpose of this puddle is
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Speaker 1: so that we see the reflection of an AMC theater sign.
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Speaker 1: A foot comes into frame and steps into the puddle.
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Speaker 1: This foot is wearing a stiletto. We see the pant
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Speaker 1: leg of a pinstriped suit. But these aren't just any
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Speaker 1: old pin stripes. They're shiny pin stripes. There. It's I
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Speaker 1: would say, it's like you would wear this like a
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Speaker 1: business casual New Year's Eve party? Yeah, would you wear
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Speaker 1: this to a movie theater alone? You know, that's that's
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Speaker 1: out of my pay grade. I don't know you could.
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Speaker 1: I've seen it happen. I mean, I've seen it happen
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Speaker 1: with exactly one person, and it's Nicole Kidman in this commercial.
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Speaker 1: M hm, so yeah, so it has happened. It's been
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Speaker 1: famously done. So she so she walks into and it's,
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Speaker 1: of course it's an AMC movie theater. Yes, he's wearing
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Speaker 1: a jacket. At first, jacket goes away. Okay, yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: So we cut two assuming they take it at the door,
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Speaker 1: which is not what happens at them. There is no
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Speaker 1: co check, so right, so then we cut to the
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Speaker 1: so we're still outside. We cut to the face of
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Speaker 1: the person in the pinstripe suit. It is Nicole Kidman
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Speaker 1: as herself. I think she's not playing a role. She's
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Speaker 1: not playing you know. The Explorer's daughter in Paddington One.
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Speaker 1: She's not playing uh um whatever that her name is
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Speaker 1: from Mulan Rouge, certainly not. And other Nicole Kidman movies
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Speaker 1: that I can't think of off the top of my head.
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Speaker 1: She's not in um in Oh no, that one that's
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Speaker 1: about sex parties, eyes wide shot, it's not. That's how
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Speaker 1: I just described. Thank you forgetting that, and I'm canceled again.
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Speaker 1: Great um yeah. And then you know other movies that
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Speaker 1: she's in that I don't remember, but it's Nicole Kidman
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Speaker 1: playing herself as far as we can tell. She pulls
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Speaker 1: down the hood of a beige coat that she's wearing.
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Speaker 1: She smiles at the AMC sign. She loves it there,
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Speaker 1: and it's not a super enthusiastic smile, but it's a
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Speaker 1: smile of recognition, like I've been to this we come
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Speaker 1: to this place, which I think is what is being
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Speaker 1: said during this shot, correct, So she smiles, she steps
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Speaker 1: towards the theater, and then we're also getting voice over
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Speaker 1: from Nicole Kidman which says, we come to this place
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Speaker 1: for magic. We come to AMC theaters to laugh, to cry,
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Speaker 1: to care. Then we see Nicole walking down a hallway
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Speaker 1: of this AMC. People have figured out this is like
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Speaker 1: a Los Angeles am C. I'm pretty sure I know
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Speaker 1: exactly where it is. Where is which one is it?
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Speaker 1: So it is one of the newest AMC's, at least
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Speaker 1: in the region. Because this was filmed on location. It
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Speaker 1: is the AMC. You like to think they built a replica. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it is the AMC Porter Ranch nine, which is just
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Speaker 1: north of l A. We should definitely go. We should
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Speaker 1: definitely go. I also, how certain did you feel, even
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Speaker 1: though obviously she's an amazing actress, you feel like she's
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Speaker 1: been there before. I would guess this is the first
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Speaker 1: time Nicole Kimn's been too an AMC. Absolutely yeah. I
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Speaker 1: don't think she's ever set foot inside of one before
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Speaker 1: they offered her, let's say, a million billion dollars to
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Speaker 1: step foot inside of a completely empty AMC theater one time.
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Speaker 1: I concur okay, but it's great. It's it's fluorescent lighting,
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Speaker 1: which you would think wouldn't be flattering, but it's Nicole
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Speaker 1: Kidman and it kind of compliments the shiny nous of
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Speaker 1: of the pinstripe suit. I thought it brought out the
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Speaker 1: stripes absolutely us. So she's walking down the hall Her
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Speaker 1: coat is gone, so she apparently maybe she opened the
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Speaker 1: doors and just tossed it at the first working class
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Speaker 1: person she saw. Who knows she could have just dropped it.
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Speaker 1: I mean the movie there's empty, true, right, no one
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Speaker 1: else is there. Okay, So she's walking down the hallway alone.
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Speaker 1: Cut to her in a screening room, walking up the
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Speaker 1: steps towards a seat. The screening room is completely empty.
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Speaker 1: But at this point we have now gotten a full
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Speaker 1: visual of the suit head to toe. We see the
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Speaker 1: whole thing and it looks good. It's good, it's a
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Speaker 1: good fit. It was tailored nicely, yes, and it's very shiny. Now,
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Speaker 1: can can you clarify something for me? She doesn't have
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Speaker 1: the soda when she is walking down the hallway, or
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Speaker 1: does she? I do not believe she has the soda
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Speaker 1: At this point, the soda appears, soda magically appears, yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: I just checking. The coat magically disappears, the soda magically appears.
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Speaker 1: She's summoning and disappearing things like she's a wizard, like
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Speaker 1: she's in practical magic or something. Yes, wow, that's another
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Speaker 1: movie she's in. She's really in a lot of movies. Caitlin.
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Speaker 1: I know she's had a hell of a career, tell
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Speaker 1: you what, She's in several movies, and now it's peaked.
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Speaker 1: It's peaked, and there's nowhere to go but downward. After
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Speaker 1: this AMC commercial exactly exactly, Okay, while we see these
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Speaker 1: visuals of her walking to her seat and things like that,
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Speaker 1: we get more voice over, which says, because we need that,
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Speaker 1: all of us, that indescribable feeling we get when the
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Speaker 1: lights begin to dim and we go somewhere we've never
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Speaker 1: been before. Okay, Now things get kind of interesting because
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Speaker 1: now she's so she's in the theater, the theater, there's
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Speaker 1: no one there, She's there alone. Right, Now, here's something interesting.
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Speaker 1: We don't know canonically what year this commercial takes place in.
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Speaker 1: It could take place as late as or as early
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Speaker 1: as seventeen eighteen. Does she watch a movie that comes
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Speaker 1: out after she watches Wonder Woman? She watches Jurassic World.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't check the dates on these. So the
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Speaker 1: four movies that we see her watching clips of, presumably
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Speaker 1: trailers maybe who knows our Jurassic World, which I believe
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Speaker 1: came out in if you could fact check me, that
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Speaker 1: is correct. Okay, don't we see her watch a clip
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Speaker 1: of Wonder Woman which came seen I believe, Okay. The
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Speaker 1: third one is La La Land. Okay, that might be
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Speaker 1: a wild card. That's twenty. I believe that's sixteen. Let
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Speaker 1: me check. I forgot she watches La La Land. That's sixteen, okay,
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Speaker 1: So so it could be as late as twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 1: And then the final one is Creed. Okay, Creed came out,
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Speaker 1: Creed came out in So this commercial, I would say,
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Speaker 1: for some reason, takes place in in the winter of
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Speaker 1: or like the late fall or early winter of because
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Speaker 1: otherwise you would think and I don't know the vision.
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Speaker 1: And also I would say that one thing I found
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Speaker 1: very troubling about this is there's no credited writer on
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Speaker 1: this well commercial, well, not in the credits of the commercial,
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Speaker 1: because commercials generally don't have credits. But there is a
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Speaker 1: famous Hollywood Oscar nominated screenwriter wrote the monologue for this,
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Speaker 1: Billy Ray. Really yes, okay, And I feel like you
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Speaker 1: can tell when a man is putting words in a
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Speaker 1: woman's mouth. That said, I think that you know I can.
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Speaker 1: Is he not the screenwriter of what? Is he the
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Speaker 1: screenwriter of Hunger? Games. He wrote Terminator Dark Fate. He
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Speaker 1: wrote Captain Phillips, among others, that horrible movie Richard Jewel. Wow,
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Speaker 1: he had a rough year in You wrote Gemini Man, Terminator,
22:00
Speaker 1: Dark Fate, and Richard Jewel yikes, hasn't written That's why
22:04
Speaker 1: he has to write Nicole Kidman's AMC monologues now. He
22:07
Speaker 1: wrote Three Stinkies in a Row yikes. Oh, and he
22:10
Speaker 1: wrote that show The Comy Rule That. No. I don't
22:12
Speaker 1: know why I'm calling him out because this is the
22:14
Speaker 1: greatest movie I've ever seen. Um So he actually we
22:19
Speaker 1: thought that Billy Ray, a person I just learned existed.
22:23
Speaker 1: We thought he was in his flop era. Due to
22:26
Speaker 1: Gemini Man, Terminator, Dark Fate and Richard Jewell back to
22:29
Speaker 1: back to back. We thought Nicole Kidman was in her
22:31
Speaker 1: flop era. I don't know why. I think the emphasis
22:35
Speaker 1: went wrong. We thought she was in her flop era. Yes,
22:40
Speaker 1: now I get it. Now, I understand. You know why
22:42
Speaker 1: I hit the flop flop era flop Ira. But it
22:49
Speaker 1: turns out they just needed I do feel like there
22:52
Speaker 1: is something beautiful. I mean, it's like, you know how
22:54
Speaker 1: some people are really amazing in like the TikTok format.
22:59
Speaker 1: You know, the TikTok formatt have you heard of that? Oh,
23:02
Speaker 1: I'm I'm familiar. You know, like the the idea of
23:04
Speaker 1: constraint often brings out you know, and the the economy
23:08
Speaker 1: of words, the economy of time, you know, it really
23:11
Speaker 1: forces out greatness. Yeah, wow, Billy Ray, why did he
23:15
Speaker 1: do that? Do you have more information? Well, sorry, let's
23:18
Speaker 1: get there. I have some so I have some context.
23:20
Speaker 1: And then yeah, we'll thank you so much. So we
23:24
Speaker 1: we get this a little bit more of her voice over.
23:26
Speaker 1: Then we see a movie projector fire up. She is
23:30
Speaker 1: now standing in front of a seat, but she has
23:34
Speaker 1: yet to sit down. The projector screens a clip of
23:38
Speaker 1: Jurassic World. It's screens a clip of Wonder Woman. The
23:41
Speaker 1: voiceover kicks back in. She says, not just entertained, but
23:45
Speaker 1: somehow reborn together dazzling images on a huge silver screen,
23:51
Speaker 1: sound that I can feel. Then we cut back to
23:54
Speaker 1: her face. She has been watching these clips with awe.
23:58
Speaker 1: I would say, Oh, I mean I think and there
24:00
Speaker 1: is you know that Twitter account one perfect shot. There
24:04
Speaker 1: is one perfect shot, and it's it's the one you're
24:07
Speaker 1: thinking of where there's that just a halo of light
24:10
Speaker 1: coming from behind Nicole Kidman's beautiful head from the movie
24:14
Speaker 1: Projector as she's watching I'm pretty sure the trailer for
24:17
Speaker 1: wonder Woman. Yes, it's electric, And I think a lot
24:22
Speaker 1: of us felt like that about the trailer for wonder
24:25
Speaker 1: Woman in late where this commercial is set, and then
24:29
Speaker 1: we watched it again about a year later, and we're like, no,
24:32
Speaker 1: it was actually just okay, right, but we can't falter
24:35
Speaker 1: for that. This commercial takes place, you know, almost five
24:38
Speaker 1: years ago. That's true, that's true. So she she's been
24:41
Speaker 1: watching these clips with awe. She finally takes a seat.
24:45
Speaker 1: Then we see the clip of La La Land and
24:47
Speaker 1: then Creed voice overgoes and this is I believe, the
24:52
Speaker 1: most iconic line. She says, somehow heartbreak feels good in
24:58
Speaker 1: a place like this, And can you clarify for me
25:01
Speaker 1: what movie is playing? When she says that, Um, I
25:04
Speaker 1: believe it's Creed? I think so. So I have a
25:07
Speaker 1: fall up question. Have you seen Creed? I haven't seen Creed? Yes,
25:11
Speaker 1: I have seen Creed? Does he lose? Is there heartbreak
25:14
Speaker 1: in a movie like that? Honestly, I do not remember,
25:18
Speaker 1: because I saw it when it first came out and
25:20
Speaker 1: I don't. My memory doesn't work. Okay, well you continue.
25:23
Speaker 1: I'm just going to make sure because I the movies
25:26
Speaker 1: that she's Oh, it's I'm just getting results for Creed
25:29
Speaker 1: the band. Okay, I need to be more specific in
25:31
Speaker 1: my search. I just was cure because for for such
25:35
Speaker 1: an iconic line the movies selected, I don't think you're
25:39
Speaker 1: particularly known for being heartbreaking. Right. And then, like a
25:44
Speaker 1: lot of what she's saying in her voiceover monologue does
25:48
Speaker 1: not exactly match up with the images we're seeing on screen.
25:51
Speaker 1: I would argue the most congruent match would be when
25:56
Speaker 1: she says sound that I can feel and that I
26:01
Speaker 1: believe it's playing over the clip of La La Land
26:03
Speaker 1: and that's a musical, so maybe it's like so that
26:06
Speaker 1: makes sense they found it in the edit. Right. Also,
26:10
Speaker 1: speaking of sound, let's talk about the score for a moment.
26:15
Speaker 1: The musical score that has been playing throughout this entire
26:18
Speaker 1: commercial is, I would say, a a very epic piece.
26:23
Speaker 1: It's swelling, lots of swelling strings, piano. It's yeah, it's
26:27
Speaker 1: very It starts rather sparse, starts a little sparse, you know,
26:32
Speaker 1: when for that we come to this place, you know,
26:35
Speaker 1: it's just a few it's it's very quiet. But then yeah,
26:38
Speaker 1: it rapidly crescendos once she's in that theater alone, Oh
26:41
Speaker 1: my god. And I would say that, really the crescendo
26:43
Speaker 1: comes with the arrival of the Soda who should have been,
26:48
Speaker 1: you know, the Best Supporting Actor nominee this year for sure,
26:53
Speaker 1: because what is a good supporting actor do? But you know,
26:57
Speaker 1: uplift the protagonist performance. Yeah, I haven't heard, I haven't
27:02
Speaker 1: heard the Zoda cup say a peep martial came up,
27:05
Speaker 1: and yet they're stealing scenes but also a generous scene partner.
27:08
Speaker 1: I would say, does it pass the Bechdel test? When
27:11
Speaker 1: the cup of Soda appears magically beside Nicole Kidman and
27:17
Speaker 1: admires her, admiring the movies she's watching on screen, thank
27:23
Speaker 1: you for asking? Yes, okay, just just double checking. Okay,
27:29
Speaker 1: so we're almost done. So her voice over, she says,
27:33
Speaker 1: somehow heartbreak feels good in a place like this. Our
27:36
Speaker 1: heroes feel like the best part of us, and stories
27:40
Speaker 1: feel perfect and powerful. Then we transition from Nicole's voiceover
27:46
Speaker 1: to her directly addressing the camera. It's like Judy Dent
27:51
Speaker 1: at the end of Cats is how I always think
27:54
Speaker 1: of that moment where you're like, wait, they know we're here.
27:58
Speaker 1: There the cats know, And I was in the theater
28:01
Speaker 1: the whole time, And that's how you feel when Nicole
28:04
Speaker 1: stares down the barrel of Jeff cronin Worth's camera exactly,
28:12
Speaker 1: and she says, because here they are. So she says,
28:16
Speaker 1: because here dot dot dot long pregnant pause, or I
28:21
Speaker 1: might even call it ant pause. Oh yeah, heavy with
28:24
Speaker 1: greg this pause because here dot dot dot gregnant pause
28:30
Speaker 1: they are. And then we get text on the screen
28:33
Speaker 1: that says and more voiceover that says, AMC theaters, we
28:38
Speaker 1: make movies better. Yes, fatal black. End of commercial. End
28:41
Speaker 1: of movie. So let's take a quick break for an
28:47
Speaker 1: ad that I really hope is AMC. I really hope
28:52
Speaker 1: they start playing a drink podcast for some reason, but
28:56
Speaker 1: I somehow doubt that it's going to be this exact
28:59
Speaker 1: AMC ad starring Nicole Kidman. Let's cross our fingers, but
29:03
Speaker 1: it's probably not. But we'll come right back after to
29:07
Speaker 1: this place at see you back in this place in
29:10
Speaker 1: just a minute. Yes, and we're back. So I wasn't
29:19
Speaker 1: aware who wrote the script. That is fascinating. I didn't
29:23
Speaker 1: know who directed that. They really so this this advertising
29:28
Speaker 1: campaign cost and and listeners get ready for this million
29:34
Speaker 1: American dollars is how much they spent on this ad campaign.
29:38
Speaker 1: I cannot conceive. Most of it had to have gone
29:41
Speaker 1: to Nicole Kidman, right, Like, where did this is a
29:44
Speaker 1: minute long commercial? Well? Okay, here's my guests, and I
29:49
Speaker 1: am not sure, but an educated guess is that the
29:55
Speaker 1: budget for the actual production of this commercial would not
29:58
Speaker 1: have been that high. And as with most budgets for ads,
30:04
Speaker 1: a lot of the money goes to buying ad space
30:08
Speaker 1: as far as the actual production goes. You know, for
30:11
Speaker 1: this it was only one location. They probably only needed
30:14
Speaker 1: one day for the shoot. And yeah, the biggest expense
30:18
Speaker 1: for the production was probably Nicole Kidman's rate. Right, And
30:23
Speaker 1: they have you know, jeff Crownaworth and Tim Cronaworth. You know,
30:26
Speaker 1: very famous Hollywood folks, are they? They are like in
30:30
Speaker 1: terms of I'm sure they make a lot of money
30:32
Speaker 1: because Jeffrey Cronaworth is like David Fincher's go to cinematographer.
30:35
Speaker 1: He done, he did Fight Club, Social Network, Girl with
30:38
Speaker 1: the dragon tattoo, Gone Girl. He's also like cinematographer nepotism.
30:43
Speaker 1: His dad did Blade Runner. He's kind of an interesting guy,
30:46
Speaker 1: I see. And then also I think it's a brother
30:49
Speaker 1: doo right. Jeff and Tim have collaborated on this, yes,
30:53
Speaker 1: Like I think that they're just like a cinematographer team.
30:56
Speaker 1: They also just worked together with Nicole Kidman on Being
31:00
Speaker 1: the Ricardos was his last film, so he knows how
31:04
Speaker 1: to frame this head he he knows all about it.
31:08
Speaker 1: And this is how this commercial came to be. So
31:10
Speaker 1: I'm going to read an excerpt from an interview conducted
31:15
Speaker 1: with Nicole Kidman by the Playlist about this about this
31:21
Speaker 1: so it was mostly about Being the Ricardos and a
31:24
Speaker 1: few of her other projects, The Flops, The Flops. But
31:29
Speaker 1: the final line of questioning in this interview goes as follows,
31:33
Speaker 1: and I quote the interviewer says, and then my last
31:37
Speaker 1: question for you is I know that you're not on
31:40
Speaker 1: the internet, but do you know how beloved your AMC
31:44
Speaker 1: theaters ad is? Nicole responds, Oh, the only reason I
31:50
Speaker 1: know is because Adam Aaron, the head of a MC,
31:53
Speaker 1: sends me these tidbits saying, oh thank you, because Jeff
31:57
Speaker 1: cronin WI shot it. He and his brother and he
32:01
Speaker 1: shot Being the Ricardos and the reason he shot it
32:04
Speaker 1: was because I was doing Lucy. And then I said, listen,
32:07
Speaker 1: I've been asked to support a m C. Would you
32:10
Speaker 1: be willing? And he was like yeah. And then Billy Ray,
32:14
Speaker 1: a friend of mine. I was like, Billy, would you
32:16
Speaker 1: be able to do something? Write something for us? Should
32:19
Speaker 1: we do this to support AMC? And Billy's like hell yes.
32:24
Speaker 1: So that was how that all came about basically. And
32:27
Speaker 1: then I was like, gosh, I mean, but I've never
32:30
Speaker 1: seen it in the theater or anything, because she's never
32:32
Speaker 1: been to an AMC. Right, I showed up to a show,
32:37
Speaker 1: a screening of Lucy of Being the Ricardos, and Adam
32:40
Speaker 1: was there. But Adams kind of a rock star. He's
32:43
Speaker 1: very popular. The interviewer says, he's very popular with the
32:47
Speaker 1: blockchain investors, and then Nicole respond right, not my forte.
32:57
Speaker 1: I just wanted to support a m C. But he's
32:59
Speaker 1: a great guy, thinking out of the box and defying
33:03
Speaker 1: the odds. Go Adam. The interviewer says, well, I don't
33:08
Speaker 1: know if you know this, but people love the line. Somehow,
33:11
Speaker 1: heartbreak feels good in a place like this so much
33:15
Speaker 1: that they have printed it on T shirts. Nicole Kidman,
33:19
Speaker 1: are you kidding? Interviewer, Oh, no, it's real. Ask your publicist,
33:23
Speaker 1: she can send you stuff. It's a thing. The publicist says,
33:27
Speaker 1: people have printed it out and handed it out in
33:31
Speaker 1: a theater so they could read it with you before
33:33
Speaker 1: a movie. That is true. I've I've I've seen I've
33:37
Speaker 1: seen the tweets. Yes, Nicole Kidman says, what. Interviewer says, yes,
33:43
Speaker 1: it's a thing. Nicole Kidman says no. Interviewers says yes.
33:50
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman says what, And then the interviewer says, and
33:56
Speaker 1: in fact, people were very upset because it was originally
33:59
Speaker 1: a minute long, and then they shortened it down to
34:01
Speaker 1: thirty seconds and they cut that line out. Fans were
34:04
Speaker 1: going to see Spider Man No Way Home, and they
34:06
Speaker 1: wanted to see it beforehand, and they were upset that
34:09
Speaker 1: line was missing. And Nicole Kinman says, but it's a
34:12
Speaker 1: great line, right. Interviewer says yes. Nicole says, it's so true.
34:17
Speaker 1: How true is it too? In? The interviewer says it is,
34:21
Speaker 1: and then Nicole says, I mean talk about not feeling
34:24
Speaker 1: alone sitting in a cinema with a broken heart and
34:27
Speaker 1: then watching something that breaks your heart again and you go,
34:30
Speaker 1: I'm not alone. Please, this must not go away. We
34:34
Speaker 1: have to have cinema. Nicole has no idea what's going
34:39
Speaker 1: on here, and that is a part of the r
34:42
Speaker 1: I think she's going method. I think she's doing whatever
34:45
Speaker 1: Joaquin Phoenix thought he was doing fifteen years ago. Nicole
34:48
Speaker 1: Kibben's doing right now. Uh, this is her I'm not there.
34:53
Speaker 1: She's pretending to that. That's so funny because Nicole Kibbin,
34:57
Speaker 1: I feel like, correct me if I'm wrong, listeners, but
34:59
Speaker 1: I fee it is kind of inherently camped to not
35:02
Speaker 1: understand when you're doing something camp be the like that.
35:07
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, because we love the movies and because
35:09
Speaker 1: and heartbreak does feel good in a place like this.
35:12
Speaker 1: It's like, well, Nicole, that's not necessarily why we're cheering,
35:16
Speaker 1: but heartbreak does feel good in a place like that.
35:20
Speaker 1: She's not wrong. So that brings up a few things
35:22
Speaker 1: for me. I'm curious how you feel about that because
35:25
Speaker 1: this episode is coming out I think maybe right after
35:28
Speaker 1: Women's History Month, and I just think it's interesting. You know,
35:33
Speaker 1: it's it's we love a strong female protagonist, and Nicole
35:36
Speaker 1: Kibben in this In this piece in particular, I think
35:39
Speaker 1: one of her strongest performances in a leading role. Absolutely. However,
35:45
Speaker 1: behind the camera, you know, I think that it's it's interesting,
35:49
Speaker 1: it's and I would say that this isn't a good
35:50
Speaker 1: example of women's supporting women because she she she called
35:55
Speaker 1: three white guys one one white guy and his brother.
35:58
Speaker 1: I think it's very funny that they keep referring to
36:00
Speaker 1: this guy, Tim, who doesn't have a Wikipedia page, Bless
36:03
Speaker 1: his soul. He's just called Jeff's brother, and I'm sure
36:07
Speaker 1: that bothers him. And then she calls, how does she
36:11
Speaker 1: know Billy Wright? Did he write a movie that she
36:14
Speaker 1: was in. I'm trying to figure out what the Billy
36:17
Speaker 1: Ray Nicole Kidman connection is. Let me see if I
36:19
Speaker 1: can figure this out. I would have looked, Nicole, you
36:22
Speaker 1: had an opportunity here and you handed it to a
36:26
Speaker 1: bunch of men. And I just think that's interesting. Was
36:30
Speaker 1: she in the Hunger Games? Who's in? I know? So? Okay,
36:35
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Banks is the blonde adults in that movie. Never Mind,
36:39
Speaker 1: I don't quite know how they know each other. Maybe
36:42
Speaker 1: they're just friends, that's Hollywood, Baby, I want to know
36:46
Speaker 1: who the costume designer was on this commercial, because again,
36:50
Speaker 1: this suit deserves a lot of our attention, and like
36:54
Speaker 1: how many how many different? Like what was the process there?
36:58
Speaker 1: I also really liked that that interview you just shared.
37:01
Speaker 1: You can tell it's the best day of that interviewer's
37:04
Speaker 1: life talking to her about this. But if there were
37:07
Speaker 1: questions that I feel like I didn't have answered, you know,
37:11
Speaker 1: and like how long is she going to be willing
37:12
Speaker 1: to It almost makes me want her to win for
37:16
Speaker 1: being the Ricardos so she can give us more information
37:18
Speaker 1: on stage in her Oscar acceptance speech. Yeah. Yeah, I
37:22
Speaker 1: mean she she if there's any justice in the world,
37:25
Speaker 1: she won't win because that movie is so bad that
37:28
Speaker 1: it's kind of shocking. But I just wonder, yeah, because
37:31
Speaker 1: it's like I wonder how many outfits she tried on
37:35
Speaker 1: did she bring? I feel like sometimes when people are
37:37
Speaker 1: super famous, they're like, I'm just gonna bring my own clothes.
37:40
Speaker 1: I could see it being that it seemed like it
37:41
Speaker 1: was an intimate production. Yeah, is this something she already owns?
37:45
Speaker 1: We don't know. I mean, it certainly fits. I mean
37:48
Speaker 1: when the pinstripe suit fits. That's the famous quote. Right
37:53
Speaker 1: then you have to shoot an AMC commercial and there
37:56
Speaker 1: can't be other people. I wonder, and I also wonder,
37:59
Speaker 1: you know, like why are there no other people? Well,
38:03
Speaker 1: this brings up this is an excellent question, Jamie, because
38:07
Speaker 1: it might be that she has, you know, anxiety about
38:11
Speaker 1: being around people. People could be that, but it could
38:15
Speaker 1: just be people in general. Because we're still in a
38:17
Speaker 1: pandemic as as we discuss this commercial, and certainly as
38:21
Speaker 1: this commercial premiered, and I think a lot of the
38:25
Speaker 1: backlash that this commercial first received, in addition to everyone
38:29
Speaker 1: just being like, what the fuck is this totally weird
38:34
Speaker 1: and bizarrely written, which we later realized was that's wrong.
38:39
Speaker 1: It's wrong because it's actually perfect, perfect, and it's the
38:42
Speaker 1: tone we've been for years. The production design is unbeatable,
38:49
Speaker 1: the cinematography is perfect, Everything about it is amazing. The
38:54
Speaker 1: writing is good. There's a lot of symbolism. Then the
38:59
Speaker 1: symbolism is so that you don't really know, like what
39:01
Speaker 1: they're trying to say, and in that way, it's lynch
39:04
Speaker 1: in the the sudden disappearance of the beige coat symbolizes
39:11
Speaker 1: the ending of the pandemic and the sudden emergence of
39:16
Speaker 1: this cup of soda symbolizes us returning to the life
39:20
Speaker 1: we once knew pre COVID nineteen pandemic. That's my interpretation, right,
39:25
Speaker 1: and that is why people getting to your point, why
39:27
Speaker 1: people were kind of upset because the commercial came out
39:30
Speaker 1: when we were not quite in that place, and because
39:34
Speaker 1: obviously the pandemic is ongoing, but in particular, you know,
39:38
Speaker 1: in September that was still a very precarious time and
39:43
Speaker 1: we did not know it then, but like the delta
39:45
Speaker 1: variant unfortunately surged shortly after this commercial, uh first premiere,
39:53
Speaker 1: and so the timing was not great. It seems like
39:56
Speaker 1: the kind of commercial that's claiming that the pandemic is
40:00
Speaker 1: over in a way that I don't think would have
40:01
Speaker 1: made quite as many waves had it premiered in early
40:06
Speaker 1: two when cases went down significantly again after the sorry
40:12
Speaker 1: I'm at the omicron variant, I didn't mean the delta variant.
40:16
Speaker 1: Getting my variants mixed up horrible. It's okay, we forgive you.
40:21
Speaker 1: But yes, the commercial premiered at a time where the
40:26
Speaker 1: situation was precarious. Not to quote Titanic or anything. Ruth
40:31
Speaker 1: talking about her precarious situation with Rose, of course, but
40:35
Speaker 1: the situation the world is Rose with the Corsidan, and
40:41
Speaker 1: the commercial failed to address how the theater because obviously
40:45
Speaker 1: the commercial is like urging people to return to the
40:47
Speaker 1: cinema after you know, a year and a half of
40:51
Speaker 1: watching movies at home. But it's like, hey, look, you
40:54
Speaker 1: can go back to the movie theater, specifically AMC because
40:57
Speaker 1: we make movies better. But the commercial will failed to
41:01
Speaker 1: acknowledge how the theaters might be doing anything about safety
41:06
Speaker 1: precautions relating to the pandemic and all that stuff, so
41:11
Speaker 1: that it seems to imply that the only way to
41:13
Speaker 1: be safe is to be completely alone to buy out
41:16
Speaker 1: the entire theater, which you can do at an AMC,
41:19
Speaker 1: which is another cause for criticism of like, oh well
41:22
Speaker 1: then that's a class issue. Oh you're not. You're not
41:24
Speaker 1: going to keep it safe, which is what brings me
41:26
Speaker 1: to my honestly assumption that Nicole Kidman is uncomfortable around
41:32
Speaker 1: poor people. I mean, I would tend to assume that
41:38
Speaker 1: is also correct that said we don't want her. Uh,
41:44
Speaker 1: she's she's an icon. Okay, let's get back on track. Um, yes, okay,
41:50
Speaker 1: So is that do you have more context for this.
41:52
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the lead on context for this.
41:55
Speaker 1: I'm learning so much, you know what, I'm happy to
41:57
Speaker 1: do it. I think that was That was all I
42:00
Speaker 1: could find in my extremely deep and thorough dive of
42:05
Speaker 1: the production surrounding this commercial. And um, I don't have
42:11
Speaker 1: much else to say aside from this being my favorite
42:14
Speaker 1: movie of all time except that. Did you notice how
42:18
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman's Australian accent is sometimes there but sometimes not? Well,
42:24
Speaker 1: that's how else would you know Nicole Kidman's performing if
42:28
Speaker 1: she couldn't quite decide whether she was going to use
42:32
Speaker 1: her natural accent or not. It's like we've taught and okay,
42:37
Speaker 1: icon we're not punching at Nicole Kidman. This is an
42:41
Speaker 1: iconic performance that there's like every Nicole Kidman performance you're like,
42:45
Speaker 1: oh there. It is like there's always like two scenes
42:49
Speaker 1: where she she just she slips quote Titanic, and I
42:54
Speaker 1: slipped and I would have gotten overboarding Mr m he
42:58
Speaker 1: hadn't saved me, almost gone over himself. So the boy's
43:03
Speaker 1: a hero. Then okay, oh guys, it's April. You gotta
43:09
Speaker 1: get over to the Matrion because it's that time again.
43:12
Speaker 1: Did you see that listener and future guests in the
43:15
Speaker 1: cast aomi Um tagged us in something called a Titanic
43:19
Speaker 1: porn parody called by Tanic Did you see that? I
43:22
Speaker 1: certainly did. I think maybe we should cover it. I
43:25
Speaker 1: think we should cover it. There's another I think horror
43:29
Speaker 1: movie coming out good Titanic six six six is maybe
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Speaker 1: the movie perfect with. The newest Amityville horror movie is
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Speaker 1: called Amityville Horror in Space and they still claim it's
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Speaker 1: based on a true story. Can you believe that? Okay?
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Speaker 1: So okay. I'm reading an article from Deadline about Titanic.
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Speaker 1: The official log line of the film is this, one
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Speaker 1: hundred and ten years after its namesakes Fateful Journey, the
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Speaker 1: Titanic Threes made in voyage will land at the original
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Speaker 1: site of the wreck. Although a faithful replica of the original,
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Speaker 1: this mammoth cruise ship. This is also way longer than
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Speaker 1: a logline btw, But what do I know? Although a
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Speaker 1: faithful replica of the original, this mammoth cruise ship is
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Speaker 1: built with the most advanced technology, ensuring that it has
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Speaker 1: no chance of sinking. But when the Titanic three arrives
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Speaker 1: at the tragic site, strange events begin to occur as
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Speaker 1: dark forces from the deep rise to the surface, terrorizing
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Speaker 1: all aboard and threatening to repeat one of history's greatest disasters. Wow,
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Speaker 1: I love it. I'll see it. Of course we'll see it.
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Speaker 1: Of course we'll see it. I'm looking. I'm currently looking
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Speaker 1: at somehow heartbreak feels good in a place like this
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Speaker 1: crop tops. Okay, So obviously we need to get matching
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Speaker 1: ones and wear them during every recording. And if if
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Speaker 1: things go as you're planning, Caitlin and I may be
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Speaker 1: dropping a special little, uh, you know, a little little
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Speaker 1: picture to go along with this episode if things go
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Speaker 1: to plan. If not, we'll cut it out of the episode.
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Speaker 1: But I think that you might be pretty thrilled by
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Speaker 1: the make sure we drop with this. So with that said,
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Speaker 1: I think that there's you know, I wish we had
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Speaker 1: more time to discuss this, but we have shockingly been
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Speaker 1: talking about this for almost an hour. So does this
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Speaker 1: AMC commercial spot pass the Bechtel test? Well, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to answer your question with another question, amazing, which is this? Okay,
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Speaker 1: does it pass the Bechtel test? When Nicole Kidman's diagetic
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Speaker 1: breaking the fourth Wall monologue responds to Nicole Kidman's non
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Speaker 1: diagetic voice over, Ah, that's a yes question because it's
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Speaker 1: obviously yes a so so the answer is yes, this
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Speaker 1: definitely passes. I would argue there's another way in which
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Speaker 1: it passes, because is it the soda cup clause it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a different one. So there's a wow. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So Nicole Kidman says, somehow heartbreak feels good in a
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Speaker 1: place like this. Stories feel perfect and powerful because here
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Speaker 1: they are. And then we the audience, which is comprised
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Speaker 1: of all genders, we respond and we say who Yes,
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Speaker 1: Nicole's exactly yes, and that truly is how people respond. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sold. I think that at this point
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Speaker 1: handily passes the backdul test. I had no doubt in
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Speaker 1: my mind. But I feel much I feel much much better. Yes.
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Speaker 1: So with that in mind, let's get to our nipple scale. Yes,
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Speaker 1: rating the movie based on how it fares from an
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Speaker 1: intersectional feminist lens on a scale of zero to five nipples.
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Speaker 1: What are you giving this commercial spot? No question about it,
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Speaker 1: five nipples, thank you across the board for everything. I
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Speaker 1: would say five nipples as well. Even though this star
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Speaker 1: is a a single white woman, talking to the world.
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Speaker 1: Who had the opportunity to hire anyone and did hire
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Speaker 1: three white guys. I think that there's no way around
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Speaker 1: it that this has five nipples. I would also say
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Speaker 1: there's not much diversity in the movies that she watches.
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of um entirely straight white people. But
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Speaker 1: we don't even see as far as who's represented from
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Speaker 1: Jurassic World. It's just the gate. It's just the gate
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Speaker 1: to Jurassic World. So yeah, I think that they certainly
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Speaker 1: could have chosen a more diverse selection of movies. They
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Speaker 1: also could have chosen movies that came out in the
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Speaker 1: last five years, but for some reason they didn't. And
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Speaker 1: even so five nipples though, even so five and maybe
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Speaker 1: even six, and I'm giving them to this sounds like
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Speaker 1: it's a MCS. I'm giving them all to the soda cup. Okay, cool,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give one to the beige coat that disappears.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give one to the puddle. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: give one to the soda cuddle icon, the puddle feminist.
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Speaker 1: Where's the T shirt feminist icon? The puddle? Okay, See,
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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I have a lot of work
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Speaker 1: to do. If I committed to making feminist icon the
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Speaker 1: Puddle March, we would be millionaires and that's just a fact.
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Speaker 1: And then we could buy out the whole theater. So
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Speaker 1: my fourth nipple goes to the empty theater and my
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Speaker 1: fifth nipple goes to Nicole Kidman's shiny pin stripes. Yes,
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Speaker 1: this is a perfect piece of cinema. This is why
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Speaker 1: we go to the movies, so that we can see
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Speaker 1: this before we see a movie. And when Melissa and
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Speaker 1: I love the theater, did we say the best part
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Speaker 1: of Sarano was Nicole Kibbin? Yeah, and Syo was okay? Actually,
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Speaker 1: although when we left, I'm curious what you think about
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Speaker 1: about it because Melissa was like Caitlin would hate that
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Speaker 1: so much. That was her first thought. You're talking about
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Speaker 1: Sera No, yes, not the commercial. I know you love
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Speaker 1: it well, I would know if we had seen the
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Speaker 1: movie together as we were supposed to do, which we
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Speaker 1: did mention going together on a Matreon episode. See it again? Okay,
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Speaker 1: it again? Peter Dinkledge. I will see any movie with
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Speaker 1: Peter Dinkledge as many times as I saw the House
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Speaker 1: of Gucci three times. So yes, I will see Serran
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Speaker 1: no twice. Good Okay, awesome, amazing, somehow heartbreak on a
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Speaker 1: podcast like this. Yes, we'll be April. I'm assuing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't actually, I don't know when this is coming out.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what day it is. It's just a day.
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Speaker 1: It's a day. No big deal to day, no big deal.
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Speaker 1: We'll have a great week everyone. Now, I feel like
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Speaker 1: we really have um tackled our godfather basically, and um,
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Speaker 1: you know we're gonna we we are going to bravely
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Speaker 1: continue the show. But know that we just peaked. We
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Speaker 1: could be done, and I would feel perfectly good about
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Speaker 1: the work we've done here. I agree, So thank you
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Speaker 1: for listening. You can you know, follow us, do all
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Speaker 1: the stuff. Rate this episode five nipples on your listening platform, etcetera. Please,
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Speaker 1: and um, you know, just be sure to go to
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Speaker 1: a MC theaters because they make movies better. And honestly,
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Speaker 1: if AMC doesn't give us advertising sponsorship after this, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna stomp around in a puddle of I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna stomp around in a boddle. I'm gonna disappear some
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Speaker 1: beige coats because that's bullshit. Absolutely Yeah, all right, Well,
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Speaker 1: thanks for listening and uh. And now just imagine us
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Speaker 1: turning to the microphone and saying, because here they are,
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Speaker 1: bye bye bye