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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - The World Fitness Project Season is complete, what are Our Thoughts · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  it is christmas week merry christmas
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  everyone and we are going to talk about
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  the world fitness project next
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  what is going on everybody welcome to
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  sunday sunday sunday night crossfit talk i
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  think i timed it up right that time
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  on a tuesday on a tuesday that's off
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  but yeah everything else so wow what a
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  crazy week man yeah i told the lunch
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  show like it was just crazy with my
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  mom's procedure it just took way longer
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  than anticipated and
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  Where I grew up,
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  it is like you go to nowhere and
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  then you go about fifteen miles further.
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  And that's where I grew up.
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  You will look out my bedroom window.
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  It's nothing but trees and woods and.
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  And it was like a fifteen minute drive
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  into town to get groceries.
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  So there's no self-service,
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  there's no I mean, Internet's weird and.
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  And then we had to drive an hour
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  and a half to take her to a
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  hospital that could perform the surgery or
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  the procedure.
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  Not really a surgery,
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  but she just got shocked back into rhythm,
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  right?
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  Yeah.
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  Did everything go well?
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  did she perked up like it was almost
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  instant she was talking when they wheeled
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  her back into the room um and then
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  in the car ride to columbus she was
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  chatty the whole way like all of a
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  sudden she had all this energy again it
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  like life-altering change that's awesome
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  And then my nephew came and got her
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  last night so she could spend today and
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  tomorrow with her great-granddaughter.
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  And then we get her Christmas Eve and
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  Christmas Day.
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  And then we'll figure out the rest for
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  the rest of the week.
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  But it's great that she's here in Columbus
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  and we can spend some time with her.
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  How's your guys' weekend?
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  Good.
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  I didn't do much.
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  I traveled to California on Saturday.
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  I had a five and a half hour
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  delay.
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  Um,
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  it was supposed to be a direct right
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  to San Francisco.
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  And then, uh, there was fueling issues.
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  So we had this stop in Denver for
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  like a quick fuel and then continued on
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  a long trip, but glad I made it.
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  Yeah.
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  Weather good in California.
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  Rainy so far,
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  a little bit the last couple days,
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  but it's warmer than in Toronto,
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  regardless.
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  Is it warmer by you, Scott?
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  It's fifty eight today.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah,
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  but last night we were going along the
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  lake.
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  We went to Erie to get the procedure
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  done,
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  drove over to Cleveland and then down to
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  Columbus, and that's not our normal route,
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  but the lake effect started to hit last
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  night as we were driving, and I'm like,
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  got to get south, got to get south.
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  Just get south, away from these lakes.
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  Do you ever get the lake effect in
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  Toronto, Carolyn,
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  or is it because you're above the lake?
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  It's more towards Niagara Falls,
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  like the Buffalo area.
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  different type of weather but i find in
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  the city i'm not like in the city
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  of toronto but like just outside it's not
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  that bad yeah eerie cleveland get not as
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  bad as buffalo but really bad compared to
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  the rest of like ohio pennsylvania so yeah
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  i just wanted to get away from that
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  as quickly as i possibly could
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  Um, so yeah, well,
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  sorry to everybody that we're doing this
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  on a Tuesday night.
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  We, you know,
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  we normally do this on a Sunday,
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  but life gets in the way sometimes.
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  And, um,
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  but we didn't want to just cancel the
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  show because it was a big week with
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  the WFP and we want to talk about
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  everything we saw there.
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  But before we do that,
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  huge shout out to our sponsor, Thirdsy.
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  Thank you for supporting the show and
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  allowing us to do this.
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  I told people on my lunch show today
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  I forgot to take it home with me
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  this weekend.
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  And I was bummed.
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  Because I, you know,
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  sleeping in a different bed,
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  you want everything right so you can get
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  a good night's sleep.
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  And I didn't get that this weekend.
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  And so I was jonesing for it when
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  I got home.
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  And I slept great last night.
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  Good.
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  I brought their travel package for like a
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  little...
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  They're like the seven day ones.
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  So I brought two of the seven day
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  ones with me.
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  So I'm going versus bringing like the
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  whole thing.
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  Yeah.
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  Ken Walter says,
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  I also wanted to brag about the Bears.
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  What a weekend.
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  Like, as a Bears fan,
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  I cannot even express the joy in my
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  heart for the first time to clinch a
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  playoff berth.
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  And to beat your rival.
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  Especially against your rival.
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  It's sad that Jamie's team had to lose
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  for them to clinch the spot in a
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  wild game that they played in.
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  It's awful.
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  Um, but man,
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  I was so pumped Saturday night.
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  I could not even thirds.
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  He probably couldn't have cut through the
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  adrenaline.
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  I had gone through my body on Saturday
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  night.
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  Um, I watched every podcast,
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  everything that was coming in.
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  Kayla Williams doing a lap around the
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  stadium, high-fiving the fans was so cool.
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  Um,
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  it just like everything about this team.
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  I just love,
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  I love the guys on the team.
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  I love the way they play.
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  I love the coach.
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  I just, yeah.
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  everything.
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  It is so awesome.
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  And I, and I'll be honest,
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  it really had made it hard to watch
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  the WFP because I just wanted all the
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  merit content I could possibly get because
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  I'm so pumped about that.
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  And it really made it hard to get
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  all the WFP in for me this weekend.
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  But I was,
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  I did my best to get through everything
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  I could before we had this show.
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  Um,
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  And I said today on the lunch show,
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  and this is not on our agenda, but,
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  you know,
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  the officiating in the NFL has been wild
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  this weekend.
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  And we complain about the judges who are
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  volunteers in our sport.
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  But those guys get paid when we're
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  complaining about them every Monday
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  morning.
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  It gives you some kind of perspective
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  about these people that we put out there
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  as volunteers do a pretty damn good job
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  for the most part.
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  And these guys go out there and we
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  pay them every week and, and we're up.
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  Like I know you were texting me after
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  the lions game, things like that's BS.
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  That's trash.
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  And I know you weren't talking about the
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  teams.
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  You were talking about the officiating.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I was talking about the officiating.
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  I mean, it was back and forth.
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  There was, I, the,
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  the offensive pass interference call.
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  I mean, I think there was one on.
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  on them the other like the other way
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  so it's it is what it is like
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  i mean we shot ourselves in the foot
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  there was other opportunities so it is
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  what it is but you just you get
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  frustrated when it's that close or like
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  two opportunities just you feel like
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  they're ripped from you yeah yeah but i'm
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  sure that the officiating was great in
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  hockey right carolyn nobody can get it
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  right
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  You always, like, no matter the sport,
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  the referees will miss some stuff.
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  Like, it's just part of live games.
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  And that's why a lot of sports have
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  gone towards, like, video review.
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  Tennis and soccer goals now,
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  even baseball plays, right?
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  Like,
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  we're starting to see video come into play
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  much more now.
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  But we don't use it in our sport.
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  Like,
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  we can't even show a video for the
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  most part.
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  Carolyn,
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  are you on a phone or a laptop?
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  I'm on a laptop.
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  Your mic sounds muffled and I just didn't
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  know if something was on it or...
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  Is it better if I hold my laptop?
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  Nope.
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  It's better with you not holding the
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  laptop.
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  Okay, we'll just move forward.
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  We'll get through it.
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  It's Christmas week.
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  If I mute between, is that better?
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  No, you're good right now.
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  You're fine.
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  It's when you talk, you're muffled.
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  It's not about any ambient noise or
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  anything like that.
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  so before we get into tonight I know
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  we said we would do the second half
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  of the sports movie bracket with
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  everything going on it just didn't fit and
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  with WFP it's gonna WFP is gonna take
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  up a big chunk of tonight's show I
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  didn't want to try to squeeze it in
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  at the end so we are gonna do
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  Christmas movies just top five discussion
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  no brackets and then we'll go back to
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  and we'll finish off the sports movies for
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  New Year's Eve ish New Year's week
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  Ken Walters,
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  hockey players complain the most in twenty
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  four years of hockey.
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  Not one of my son's penalties were a
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  penalty, according to him.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  All right.
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  So World Fitness Project had their finals
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  this last weekend.
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  It was a four day, nine event final.
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  Final.
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  And I have the leaderboards up.
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  We can look at who won the season
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  finale of that.
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  And so here it is.
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  So here is the men's side.
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  Your season champion of the WFP is James
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  Sprague.
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  Second is Dallin Pepper.
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  Third is Ricky Garrard.
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  Fourth is Justin Medeiros.
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  Fifth, Roman Krennikoff.
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  And I'd say a big surprise, Guima Heros.
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  I don't think people predicted him to
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  finish this high in the season.
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  Your pro card winners, in addition,
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  are Tudor Magda, Chandler Smith,
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  Yonikoski, Enola Kai, Jack Farlow,
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  Colton Mertens, Yella Hosta,
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  Patrick Vellner, Travis Mayer, Jeff Adler,
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  Ty Jenkins, BKG, Chris Ibarra,
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  and Nate Ackerman.
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  So those are your twenty pro card winners
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  after the finals on the women's side.
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  We had Laura Horvat,
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  Amy Kringle and Emma Lawson as the podium
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  for the finals for women season finals.
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  Sorry,
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  Amy Kringle and Laura Horvat actually tied
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  on the season point structure.
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  Lucy Campbell and Ariel Lohan round out
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  the top five.
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  Emma Tall's in sixth.
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  And then also getting pro cards,
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  Brooke Wells, Olivia Kerstetter,
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  Sydney Wells, Annika Greer,
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  and Andrea Solberg, Lydia Fish,
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  Sydney McElishan, Emily Rolfe,
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  Danny Spiegel, Hannah Black,
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  Mano Anganese, Jennifer Muir, Oda Lund...
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  Lundgumfum?
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  Lundgumfum.
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  Lundgumfum.
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  Okay.
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  And Ella Wilkinson.
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  So congratulations to everybody who earned
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  their pro card for next year.
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  Let's get into the weekend.
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  I want to start with the positives.
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  What did you guys find as the positives
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  on watching the event over the weekend?
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  Seth?
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  I love that it's on YouTube.
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  Yeah, YouTube was good.
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  Yeah, it made it much easier to...
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  go back and watch like for the last
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  two.
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  Did they even have it on the website
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  this time around?
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  Yes.
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  I wonder how many people watched it from
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  the website versus YouTube.
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  I only know that because I went to
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  look for the leaderboard and I stumbled
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  across the main page and it was airing
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  on the website.
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  No,
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  I actually really enjoyed it for the most
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  part this weekend.
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  The fans, especially the Saturday,
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  Sunday were very, very loud.
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  It looked packed in there.
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  um the athletes did did well there's a
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  couple events that had some good races to
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  finish i like the the scoring in the
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  background like the big scoring that you
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  could see behind the rig the rep counting
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  yep
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  I mean, I just like watching CrossFit,
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  so it's another opportunity to watch
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  high-end athletes in our sport compete
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  against each other once again,
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  and that's always going to catch my eye,
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  no matter the competition.
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  Jamie, you have positives?
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  Seth is my positive for the weekend.
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  I mean, I totally agree.
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  I think the rep counter is on the
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  rig.
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  The crowd looked good.
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  The problem for me with that is like,
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  that doesn't transfer to at home
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  viewership.
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  You can't like,
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  you could tell that that was on the
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  rig and I,
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  it looked like it was probably cool,
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  like awesome in person.
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  That was probably such a help for
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  in-person doesn't really help for the live
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  viewers viewership from home.
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  Yeah.
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  But it's such an innovation because you
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  and I have been to a ton of
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  live events.
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  And if you had that in a live
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  event, it's game changer, right?
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  I totally agree.
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  I think, yes,
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  it's a total step in the right direction.
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  I think it's awesome.
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  I just don't know how well that translates
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  to growing the viewership worldwide.
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  It's totally great.
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  It's great in person.
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  So I will counter you with,
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  I like their F one style rep counter
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  on the side of the screen at home
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  for the,
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  so the viewers don't get something that's
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  better than that top thing across.
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  We're going to get a couple of names.
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  Yep.
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  Yeah.
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  I like the fours going down where you
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  know how many reps are left versus going
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  up and you don't know to how many
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  you have to go to.
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  So I do like the fact that you're
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  like, okay, ten reps left, fourteen here,
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  okay, this person's in front.
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  Like that's very clear as a viewer who's
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  in the lead.
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  Yeah.
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  And I felt my frustration with that is
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  I felt like I had to rely on
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  that.
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  Cause this was some of the worst videoing
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  that I've ever seen.
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  I was yelling.
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  Well, it's the problem.
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  Like it, it's great.
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  I like it.
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  The remaining, the problem was it wasn't,
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  I would rely on that.
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  And then that person,
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  like someone else came.
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  So it wasn't always right.
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  That's my issue with it.
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  So they need, like, they need,
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  it's a great idea.
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  I love the remaining reps.
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  needs to be perfected i mean i'm sure
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  it's hard counting those and someone gets
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  off um but that's what i noticed i
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  all of a sudden someone like that they
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  didn't have four left what the heck how
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  are they finishing uh hillar says dan
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  jamie is so negative i know i know
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  yeah that's most of my comments after
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  these shows that you were negative that
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  you are negative oh yeah i'm just kidding
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  um it's not surprising
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  so I do want to say a couple
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  of things that I did appreciate.
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  I know that people dog the lighting.
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  I think the lighting is improved from tour
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  stop one to this one immensely.
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  The sides were not dark.
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  I,
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  they had brightened the light so that when
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  it is white light, you could see.
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  And I,
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  and I really do love when it goes
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  yellow with ten seconds to go.
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  I do too.
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  I like that too.
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  That tells me like, hurry up,
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  get your shit done.
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  The end is coming.
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  And I really do like that.
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  And it tells the story.
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  Katrin and Seth, I thought,
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  were highlights.
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  I thought some of Katrin's insight was
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  better than color commentary I've had from
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  other people in the past.
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  talking about how passing someone on a run
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  is zaps your energy so much that you,
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  and you can only do it so many
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  times.
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  And so you have to wait for your
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  moments like that.
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  I never knew.
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  And I,
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  I found that informative and I thought
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  she, she spoke well, there were no gaps.
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  Other people that were on the mic,
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  sometimes there was a lot of dead air.
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  I thought she was as professional as it
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  gets.
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  And Seth is so knowledgeable.
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  He just...
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  His history of the sport is amazing.
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  The crowds on Saturday and Sunday you guys
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  mentioned were awesome.
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  And the rep counters you guys mentioned,
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  so...
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  I think Seth did a really good job
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  asking insightful questions to Katrin.
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  And I don't know if that stuff was
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  worked out before they had like scripts,
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  but yeah,
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  I wasn't talking about the studio show.
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  I was talking more about when they got
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  their chance in the booth.
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  Oh, so would you have,
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  that was my other question.
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  Would you have rather Katrin been in
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  Gabby's position?
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  Well, in a long weekend like that,
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  I like that it switched between Katrin,
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  Seth.
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  Yeah, I would.
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  And I don't want Gabby in the booth.
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  I would.
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  I don't know.
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  She'll be competing next year.
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  We don't have to worry about this.
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  Right.
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  It's hard going from someone like we had
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  Lucy do it and she was so good.
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  I think some athletes struggle to
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  compliment also competitors.
• 18:46
  Like I think Lucy was very good at
• 18:49
  understanding what the athletes are
• 18:51
  feeling,
• 18:52
  chiming in on like what people's strengths
• 18:53
  are that are in the field and like
• 18:55
  not being afraid to talk about their
• 18:57
  strengths and weaknesses.
• 18:58
  And this athlete is going to be good
• 18:59
  here.
• 19:00
  Like just really giving their out,
• 19:02
  like the athletes,
• 19:03
  their flowers and something as a
• 19:05
  competitor, I think,
• 19:06
  Gabby struggles a little bit in that way
• 19:09
  maybe being like this person will do well
• 19:11
  here this is how they're going to this
• 19:13
  is the pace that I expect them to
• 19:15
  be at like I want more insight like
• 19:16
  that and you had that from Lucy like
• 19:19
  when she normally does it when she did
• 19:22
  it a few times and I thought Catherine
• 19:25
  gave that to you in the booth too
• 19:26
  yeah I like Catherine in the booth I
• 19:29
  thought that she gives like very good
• 19:31
  pointers very knowledgeable in the sport
• 19:35
  and
• 19:37
  Yeah.
• 19:38
  And if we're good,
• 19:42
  Katrin has a perspective that someone like
• 19:44
  Tommy Marquez doesn't have either.
• 19:47
  Tommy never played the sport for him to
• 19:50
  try to give insight into what's going on
• 19:52
  on the floor is very,
• 19:54
  he just never did it.
• 19:56
  Someone like,
• 19:56
  like that's why we have Carolyn on the
• 19:58
  show and you on the show,
• 19:59
  because you guys play the sport.
• 20:01
  You guys have a perspective that nobody
• 20:04
  else has.
• 20:06
  And Tommy could be the best person in
• 20:08
  the world.
• 20:09
  He doesn't have the right perspective for
• 20:10
  that job.
• 20:12
  Katrin does.
• 20:17
  So that being said,
• 20:18
  I would have rather had Tommy and...
• 20:21
  I can never remember his name.
• 20:22
  The Australian...
• 20:25
  Jeremy, Jeremy Austin,
• 20:27
  Austin switch out and change the voice
• 20:30
  throughout the day.
• 20:31
  Yeah.
• 20:32
  And then have like Catherine and Seth in
• 20:33
  the booth that,
• 20:35
  that I think would have worked much
• 20:36
  better.
• 20:39
  Yeah.
• 20:41
  All right.
• 20:41
  So now to the negative part,
• 20:44
  what do you, what are your,
• 20:45
  what do you,
• 20:45
  where do you think they can improve?
• 20:49
  Less desk show.
• 20:50
  I think it's a lot of airtime of
• 20:52
  just that on the pulse desk show.
• 20:56
  I like that.
• 20:59
  I know, but I mean,
• 21:00
  you don't have to watch it,
• 21:01
  but for people that like sports,
• 21:03
  that people enjoy,
• 21:04
  I like seeing the preview.
• 21:05
  I like seeing how then after that,
• 21:08
  analyzing what happened.
• 21:09
  That's what happens in sports.
• 21:10
  Any sport,
• 21:11
  they're talking about the game before,
• 21:12
  they talk about the game after.
• 21:15
  I don't mind.
• 21:17
  I like the preview show.
• 21:18
  I think that that's something that we miss
• 21:19
  from the CrossFit Games.
• 21:20
  We used to have the update show in
• 21:21
  the open and all that.
• 21:23
  Years ago, that was
• 21:25
  little bit better than what we've been
• 21:27
  seeing as of late but as a fan
• 21:28
  of the sport i think that i don't
• 21:32
  know that i like one thing i don't
• 21:35
  like and i just noticed this is the
• 21:37
  subtle dig that the forty-niners banner is
• 21:39
  above carolyn's head for this show and the
• 21:41
  bears play the forty-niners this weekend i
• 21:45
  just noticed that subtle dig but we can
• 21:47
  get back to wfp now you should see
• 21:48
  the downstairs it's all four to nine and
• 21:50
  yeah just
• 21:58
  Anything else, Jamie?
• 22:03
  I mean,
• 22:04
  we've talked and I think others have
• 22:05
  talked about some of the movements.
• 22:08
  We talked about the GHDs.
• 22:10
  I just don't know the intention of even
• 22:12
  putting it in a competition at this point
• 22:13
  because I don't know that it's even
• 22:15
  testing what you want to test if you're
• 22:16
  just allowing.
• 22:18
  Seriously,
• 22:18
  what is the point of the movement?
• 22:20
  Like that's why we need some standards.
• 22:23
  Right.
• 22:23
  Yeah.
• 22:26
  It's a big cumbersome machine out there.
• 22:32
  Yeah, I agree.
• 22:34
  I would, yeah, I just, I don't know.
• 22:36
  I just get rid of it.
• 22:37
  Cause it's like such a annoying thing to
• 22:39
  watch somebody just bastardize it.
• 22:45
  You're negative Hiller.
• 22:46
  Yeah.
• 22:49
  I think,
• 22:50
  and like the dumbbell over at squat,
• 22:52
  literally everyone you can point out that
• 22:55
  they're high.
• 22:56
  So it's like, if we're just going to,
• 22:58
  again, Hiller picked on Laura,
• 23:00
  you look down the line and I think
• 23:03
  at a field of thirty,
• 23:05
  ten people hit depth.
• 23:07
  Yeah, I would agree.
• 23:09
  Twenty of them,
• 23:10
  especially at seventy and a hundred.
• 23:12
  That movement is so challenging to get
• 23:15
  into that position,
• 23:16
  because even if they get depth on one
• 23:17
  side,
• 23:18
  sometimes it's not on the other side.
• 23:19
  And it depends what side the camera's on
• 23:21
  or the judge is on to look at
• 23:22
  the hip.
• 23:23
  It's such a challenging movement.
• 23:26
  I don't know that you needed to test
• 23:27
  fitness necessarily,
• 23:29
  but there's a lot of them that looked
• 23:31
  exactly like that parallel or just
• 23:33
  slightly above,
• 23:35
  way beyond Laura to say that it was
• 23:38
  just her or whatever.
• 23:40
  While we're talking about this,
• 23:41
  one thing I don't like about what the
• 23:43
  WFP is doing is they're trying to make
• 23:45
  it so simplified so that the athletes can
• 23:48
  meet whatever the lack of standard they
• 23:50
  put out there.
• 23:51
  The GHD is ridiculous.
• 23:53
  It has been proven that all you have
• 23:55
  to do is put a piece of white
• 23:56
  tape at the top and
• 23:57
  of the ghd like they did at syndicate
• 24:00
  crown like they did at the games and
• 24:02
  it changes everybody back into doing it
• 24:04
  properly because it's easy to judge at
• 24:06
  that point having it the wild wild west
• 24:09
  where hey we'll just let you do whatever
• 24:10
  you want and we're going to accept it
• 24:14
  that that ghd movement that i can't
• 24:20
  remember his name now
• 24:22
  Yeah.
• 24:23
  I said to you guys,
• 24:24
  I think he's a frog grip athlete and
• 24:26
  he's just advertising for them.
• 24:28
  And that's the conspiracy is he's doing an
• 24:32
  ad for frog grip while he's doing a
• 24:33
  GHD.
• 24:35
  That's just ridiculous.
• 24:36
  And it, and it, it's a bad,
• 24:37
  bad look.
• 24:39
  It's a bad look.
• 24:41
  If you,
• 24:42
  if people would just walk in and say,
• 24:43
  Hey,
• 24:44
  I want to try CrossFit and see that
• 24:45
  on the screen.
• 24:55
  yeah anyway i just wanted to say that
• 24:59
  having no standard is not correcting the
• 25:01
  judging issue agree but for me the lifting
• 25:07
  event i thought that like i didn't like
• 25:10
  the the lighting of the lifting like the
• 25:14
  squares from the standpoint of like
• 25:17
  watching it online um
• 25:20
  I felt like they missed a lot of
• 25:21
  the lifts, which I mean,
• 25:24
  you'll miss a lot when it's an eight
• 25:26
  minute time cap or whatever to,
• 25:29
  and you can get as many lifts as
• 25:30
  possible.
• 25:31
  But I just,
• 25:32
  I didn't like the lighting there
• 25:34
  personally.
• 25:35
  Can I say this about that?
• 25:36
  I think that they also,
• 25:37
  the camera work was terrible.
• 25:39
  They thought that Olivia was going to hit
• 25:42
  the big lift.
• 25:43
  So they watched her missed five attempts
• 25:46
  rather than get anything on Ariel who
• 25:49
  passed her.
• 25:52
  you can't be so stuck on your in
• 25:55
  your mind storyline that you will not move
• 25:59
  to the floor where it's happening that
• 26:06
  really was frustrating to me the swimming
• 26:11
  event the double swim no surprise there
• 26:15
  yeah
• 26:19
  I didn't love that.
• 26:20
  Just make them both nifty.
• 26:23
  If you're a good swimmer,
• 26:24
  you got to recover more for the next
• 26:26
  swim.
• 26:28
  And then if you're close to someone on
• 26:30
  the swim,
• 26:30
  but you're better on the machine,
• 26:32
  then you were getting a little bit more
• 26:34
  extra points there.
• 26:35
  But for the most part,
• 26:37
  it was two hundred points to the top
• 26:39
  swimmers that may be a little bit better
• 26:41
  on the machine.
• 26:44
  It's because they know where to go.
• 26:46
  Because if you were an efficient swimmer,
• 26:50
  you didn't have to put forth the effort
• 26:52
  in that five hundred like Jonah Koski was
• 26:54
  going at seventy five percent.
• 26:58
  And still crush the field.
• 26:59
  Yeah.
• 27:00
  I mean,
• 27:04
  that's sort of the case with almost
• 27:06
  everything, right?
• 27:07
  The more efficient,
• 27:08
  the more efficient you are.
• 27:10
  Double it up.
• 27:11
  Well, yes.
• 27:12
  Double a double swim workout is not a
• 27:15
  good idea.
• 27:15
  Yeah.
• 27:19
  It's not a smear campaign.
• 27:20
  It's constructive criticism.
• 27:21
  We're hoping they take this and improve.
• 27:24
  Well, I forgot a good...
• 27:26
  My favorite part was, I don't know,
• 27:28
  the snatch of Guy versus Tudor was really
• 27:32
  exciting to watch.
• 27:33
  And then you missed Chandler,
• 27:36
  but I think he hit a PR as
• 27:38
  well in the
• 27:41
  But just the back and forth there was
• 27:43
  because you don't you never get to see
• 27:44
  them really try to go for appear because
• 27:47
  we're always limited by two or three
• 27:48
  attempts at most,
• 27:50
  so this time i'm going back.
• 27:54
  And just crazy numbers on both sides of
• 27:56
  the field.
• 27:58
  Yeah.
• 27:59
  I,
• 27:59
  I feel like every time there's a lift,
• 28:01
  I've said that, like,
• 28:02
  I can't stand when there's just three
• 28:03
  attempts to lift.
• 28:04
  Like if you want to see if your
• 28:08
  goal is see who can lift the most,
• 28:09
  then just give them a window to lift.
• 28:11
  And then we'll actually get like some true
• 28:13
  one reps, not just like gaming the system.
• 28:16
  So like,
• 28:17
  I think this is a smart way to
• 28:18
  do it.
• 28:18
  If you're going to put a lift in
• 28:19
  there.
• 28:20
  It's just harder to watch.
• 28:22
  It is harder to watch and really hard.
• 28:27
  Eight.
• 28:28
  What?
• 28:28
  eight minutes a lot of time yeah there
• 28:31
  was a lot of misses six no more
• 28:34
  than six yeah and you've had plenty of
• 28:36
  opportunity to get to your to your number
• 28:40
  yeah i
• 28:43
  I agree, Scott, but like I said,
• 28:45
  I had said earlier,
• 28:46
  like the camera work was some of the
• 28:48
  worst I've seen.
• 28:49
  I,
• 28:49
  I was frustrated so many times yelling at,
• 28:52
  like,
• 28:53
  it would go in on somebody doing double
• 28:55
  unders showing like their feet,
• 28:57
  but then they just stop and they'd leave
• 28:58
  the camera on them.
• 28:59
  And you're like, there's,
• 29:01
  I want to actually see people move down
• 29:02
  the floor.
• 29:03
  Can't you just like pan it out?
• 29:04
  Just...
• 29:05
  to that corner side shot.
• 29:07
  So I can actually see who is moving
• 29:09
  up from double unders to GHD.
• 29:11
  They use side by side in the swim.
• 29:13
  Why didn't they use side by side in
• 29:14
  the lift?
• 29:15
  Yeah.
• 29:16
  Yes.
• 29:18
  How many nut shots did we get on
• 29:19
  the GHD?
• 29:20
  I don't know.
• 29:21
  I don't know.
• 29:22
  Hey, that's my complaint and it's coming.
• 29:24
  Okay.
• 29:25
  I got, I got proof.
• 29:27
  Yeah.
• 29:31
  So Jenny put this up too.
• 29:33
  So I'm, you know, this is,
• 29:35
  this is a picture from the video I
• 29:37
  screenshotted.
• 29:43
  This is a camera man right here.
• 29:46
  Look how close to the GHD he is.
• 29:49
  Are you telling me that there's not camera
• 29:51
  technology that can get that same shot
• 29:55
  back five feet?
• 29:59
  Look at that.
• 30:01
  He is right on top of the athlete.
• 30:03
  Yep.
• 30:05
  And then in the way when they go
• 30:07
  to move.
• 30:08
  If you did this in hockey,
• 30:10
  you would get high-sticked.
• 30:14
  Like that is ridiculous.
• 30:15
  They put a little hole in the glass
• 30:18
  and then they put a camera there and
• 30:20
  then they have cameras from above.
• 30:22
  Right.
• 30:23
  But they're not on the ice with you.
• 30:26
  So then what shots do we get from
• 30:29
  this?
• 30:31
  Let's see.
• 30:33
  Whoa.
• 30:33
  No, no, no.
• 30:33
  Gotta give the people what they want.
• 30:36
  This is what we get.
• 30:41
  We get this.
• 30:45
  I remember watching this live.
• 30:47
  Who wants this shot?
• 30:49
  What is happening?
• 30:50
  The people, Scott.
• 30:51
  The people.
• 30:54
  This is the shot you want?
• 30:57
  Clearly that cameraman did.
• 30:59
  He did not move.
• 31:04
  Pillar wants that shot.
• 31:09
  They have seventy to two hundred.
• 31:10
  Right.
• 31:11
  They don't need to be an inch away
• 31:13
  from the athlete.
• 31:14
  Agreed.
• 31:17
  Holy shit.
• 31:20
  That is ridiculous.
• 31:25
  You know,
• 31:26
  I've bitched about this for years.
• 31:27
  I hate when you're at one of these
• 31:30
  events live and the cameraman gets in your
• 31:32
  way and you can't even see what's going
• 31:34
  on because they're so close to the
• 31:35
  athlete.
• 31:36
  They don't need to be there.
• 31:40
  Why do we permit this when we don't
• 31:42
  permit it in any other sport?
• 31:43
  Right.
• 31:46
  I agree.
• 31:46
  I, like I said,
• 31:47
  I think it's providing us with poor live
• 31:50
  footage.
• 31:51
  So get them off the floor so that
• 31:53
  we can see the movement down the floor
• 31:55
  out of multiple athletes at a time.
• 31:57
  I don't care if you zoom in occasionally,
• 32:00
  but I, yes, get off the floor.
• 32:01
  You're in athletes way when they try to
• 32:03
  step forward.
• 32:05
  Yeah.
• 32:06
  And
• 32:08
  And it seems like all we get are
• 32:10
  either the super wide or the super narrow.
• 32:13
  Right.
• 32:14
  There are shots that get like two or
• 32:15
  three lanes at a time that you could
• 32:18
  check a couple athletes out at the same
• 32:20
  time.
• 32:21
  It doesn't have to be one or all.
• 32:26
  That is like, it is so infuriating.
• 32:30
  And it's not just WFP that, I mean,
• 32:32
  I've been bitching about this with,
• 32:36
  With the games, with semifinals,
• 32:38
  with a lot of things.
• 32:40
  Yeah.
• 32:43
  It's just, it's ridiculous.
• 32:44
  We're praying that someone listens and at
• 32:46
  some point gets this right.
• 32:49
  That's, I mean... Um...
• 32:53
  A couple that I have also is we've
• 32:55
  got to figure out this beat-up athlete
• 32:56
  thing.
• 32:57
  It was not fun to watch these taped-up
• 33:00
  athletes going out,
• 33:01
  not even able to do events,
• 33:03
  and then being then allowed to continue on
• 33:08
  the ones they could it just yeah it
• 33:10
  takes away from i think the integrity of
• 33:13
  the overall competition yeah because
• 33:15
  they're affecting the leaderboard if it's
• 33:18
  if it's something that doesn't affect that
• 33:19
  body part yet they don't even participate
• 33:22
  in some of the events they just rest
• 33:24
  for that time and i know like the
• 33:27
  alex caron situation where he was didn't
• 33:30
  meet the minimum quote whatever
• 33:33
  CrossFit booted them and it made a big
• 33:35
  stink.
• 33:35
  It's more fair to the rest of the
• 33:37
  competition than having them sit out an
• 33:39
  entire event and then come back in.
• 33:42
  I get why someone like Fi continues
• 33:44
  because she's one of the only athletes,
• 33:47
  I think maybe the only athlete,
• 33:48
  I don't know how to look at the
• 33:49
  board,
• 33:50
  that competed at all three events and is
• 33:52
  not inside the top twenty.
• 33:54
  Someone would have to maybe look.
• 33:56
  If you participated in all three events
• 33:58
  and you finished every workout,
• 34:00
  I believe you're inside the top twenty.
• 34:03
  Just by being a body there and doing
• 34:07
  all of the events.
• 34:09
  I'd have to go back and look at
• 34:10
  tour stop one.
• 34:12
  Who didn't make it?
• 34:13
  Who didn't show up?
• 34:15
  Yeah.
• 34:16
  Or who didn't finish an event because they
• 34:19
  didn't.
• 34:20
  If you showed up to all three as
• 34:22
  a pro or a challenger,
• 34:23
  you made it through.
• 34:26
  Didn't Nick Matthew show up at all three
• 34:27
  and not make it?
• 34:29
  Yes.
• 34:29
  Nick Matthew was at all three.
• 34:31
  I think that's the only one I can
• 34:32
  think of.
• 34:33
  Um, on the bubble.
• 34:34
  Right.
• 34:35
  So, so like him,
• 34:37
  if he just even took off a couple
• 34:39
  of events,
• 34:39
  I still think he'd be right around where
• 34:41
  he is.
• 34:41
  It's like, I can't continue.
• 34:44
  That's she's playing by the rules and
• 34:46
  she's right outside.
• 34:47
  She's.
• 34:47
  Twenty second, I think overall.
• 34:49
  So I'm not, I'm not dogging fee.
• 34:51
  She played the rules the way they were
• 34:53
  written.
• 34:53
  That's fine.
• 34:54
  I just think it's the rules need to
• 34:56
  be tighter.
• 34:57
  It's it's another one of those things that
• 34:59
  just isn't a good look.
• 35:01
  Yeah, I'm actually surprised.
• 35:04
  I mean,
• 35:05
  maybe she honestly physically couldn't.
• 35:08
  I'm surprised she didn't go out there and
• 35:10
  just do a few handstand pushups because
• 35:12
  she would have gotten some points in that
• 35:13
  event.
• 35:14
  Like if she would have done one a
• 35:16
  minute.
• 35:16
  I don't think she could.
• 35:20
  She moved to other things pretty darn
• 35:21
  well.
• 35:22
  She overhead squatted.
• 35:24
  Well,
• 35:24
  I guess she dumbbell snatched with that
• 35:25
  arm.
• 35:26
  But to dumbbell snatch that much weight,
• 35:28
  I think she probably could have kipped out
• 35:30
  a few.
• 35:31
  And she would have gotten points.
• 35:34
  And then,
• 35:34
  and then maybe she could have done a
• 35:36
  ring muscle up at the end.
• 35:37
  I don't like, I don't know.
• 35:38
  I mean,
• 35:39
  you would have made that choice at the
• 35:40
  end, but like,
• 35:40
  had she just done a few handstand pushups,
• 35:43
  she would have gotten points and she may
• 35:44
  have been closer to making that cut.
• 35:47
  And you wouldn't even be saying this
• 35:48
  because at the last event,
• 35:49
  if she was had no shot and just
• 35:51
  didn't compete, you wouldn't,
• 35:52
  you wouldn't even be saying this,
• 35:53
  but had she done some work in that
• 35:55
  handstand pushup event and been on the cut
• 35:57
  line,
• 35:59
  I don't think we'd be having this
• 36:00
  conversation.
• 36:03
  yeah i don't know i don't even yeah
• 36:07
  i don't know um the other thing i
• 36:09
  think that not telling the story of the
• 36:13
  full season as being the test instead of
• 36:16
  three individual competitions
• 36:20
  I've watched other people in the space
• 36:22
  there.
• 36:22
  Everybody's confused.
• 36:24
  They're confused.
• 36:24
  Why that the finals didn't have its own
• 36:26
  separate leaderboard with,
• 36:28
  there was no prize money for that.
• 36:29
  There was no like significance to that.
• 36:32
  And they really probably shouldn't have
• 36:34
  done that first tours one and two.
• 36:36
  It should have been.
• 36:37
  For winning the season.
• 36:43
  Oh, okay.
• 36:43
  Yeah.
• 36:49
  And then the eight thousand, whatever,
• 36:50
  all the way to ten is their contract
• 36:56
  for next year.
• 36:56
  Yep.
• 36:56
  So I think they should have de-emphasized
• 36:59
  the podium at the first two stops to
• 37:02
  help people understand it's like one big
• 37:04
  long competition with a pause button after
• 37:07
  each tour stop.
• 37:10
  And that goes to my next thing.
• 37:11
  I hated the double points because it made
• 37:15
  this finals everything.
• 37:19
  And people that showed up for the finals
• 37:21
  got their pro card because they showed up.
• 37:24
  Jamie and I were talking before we went
• 37:27
  on air, and she had a great idea.
• 37:28
  And I think it actually fits better to
• 37:31
  explain the season structure.
• 37:34
  So go ahead, Jamie.
• 37:35
  OK,
• 37:36
  so I was getting a little confused because
• 37:38
  I feel like I do understand the point
• 37:40
  structure.
• 37:40
  Although at the beginning,
• 37:41
  when this first came out,
• 37:42
  I had said to you then I didn't
• 37:44
  like the way it was like whatever up
• 37:46
  to like two hundred fifty through
• 37:48
  twentieth.
• 37:48
  And then like Challengers got whatever.
• 37:50
  And I didn't like any of that.
• 37:51
  And that I feel like needs to be.
• 37:53
  But yes, the double points.
• 37:56
  What was confusing me on the live stream,
• 37:58
  they would be like, well.
• 38:01
  you know at event five they're like well
• 38:03
  Lucy can't get any more points like if
• 38:06
  you know or Jeff or James or whoever
• 38:08
  like it doesn't like whoever was winning
• 38:10
  the winning the event at that point like
• 38:14
  they're gonna get the thousand points
• 38:16
  right I don't I don't even like being
• 38:19
  told that like then I'm not following what
• 38:22
  the points actually mean to me I feel
• 38:23
  like
• 38:25
  Your points out of tour stop one,
• 38:27
  if you finished first on leaderboard,
• 38:29
  whatever you got,
• 38:30
  four hundred and seventy,
• 38:31
  four hundred ninety, four hundred.
• 38:34
  That's your points.
• 38:36
  Next one,
• 38:37
  which is which was good because there was
• 38:38
  fewer events.
• 38:39
  Right.
• 38:39
  So like the max, I think you could.
• 38:41
  So the points you earned during the
• 38:43
  competition,
• 38:45
  pause at the end of tour stop one,
• 38:47
  instead of then recalculating it to the
• 38:51
  winner gets this many points,
• 38:53
  second gets this.
• 38:54
  Keep the points you've earned,
• 38:56
  carry them over to tour stop two.
• 39:00
  yeah and then like let's say laura starts
• 39:02
  in nine and tour stop two based off
• 39:05
  her points of tour one and then yeah
• 39:07
  yeah yep and then the finals was had
• 39:10
  nine events right so i mean potentially
• 39:12
  someone could have got nine hundred that's
• 39:14
  not happening um james got seven hundred
• 39:17
  and seventy two so instead of it being
• 39:19
  double a thousand
• 39:21
  It was like a one and a half,
• 39:22
  which I think makes sense.
• 39:24
  So like if you would have added James's
• 39:26
  points from one, which was four,
• 39:28
  he got four hundred seventy seven points
• 39:30
  in tour stop one.
• 39:31
  James did.
• 39:32
  James got five hundred and eight points in
• 39:34
  tour stop two and seven hundred seventy
• 39:37
  two and two in the finals.
• 39:39
  and so you add those together he still
• 39:41
  would have won um you wouldn't have had
• 39:44
  the three-way tie with the women i'm not
• 39:45
  done i'm gonna put this all together i
• 39:47
  have the men's spreadsheet started and
• 39:49
  it's almost done um but i gotta get
• 39:51
  the women's because i'm actually very
• 39:53
  curious where like amy and laura would
• 39:55
  have fallen and but you wouldn't have had
• 39:57
  these three-way ties and the where you
• 39:59
  finish and not being told on library
• 40:01
  because well it doesn't matter where she
• 40:02
  finishes or doesn't matter where she's
• 40:04
  finished because she's
• 40:07
  I mean, you need to perform.
• 40:08
  You need to get points, right?
• 40:09
  Like, I just,
• 40:11
  I feel like that would solve.
• 40:12
  And if your points for that event are
• 40:14
  added to your total,
• 40:16
  then you're more motivated to keep going
• 40:18
  because you can earn more points.
• 40:20
  Merit based.
• 40:21
  Exactly where you are within the event.
• 40:24
  Yeah.
• 40:24
  I mean, then, yeah.
• 40:29
  And at the end of each,
• 40:30
  at the end of each tour, the top,
• 40:33
  three get their prize money of where you
• 40:36
  are so if you've you're still in first
• 40:38
  place after the second tour even though
• 40:39
  you may have been fourth overall you get
• 40:41
  the bonus because people haven't caught up
• 40:43
  to you so you can still allocate money
• 40:46
  at each but i think that makes the
• 40:48
  most sense and you know and seth doesn't
• 40:53
  need to explain on the update show ten
• 40:55
  thousand times yes like the scoring and
• 40:57
  it's like well it looks closer than it
• 40:59
  is but it's actually not and
• 41:01
  he kept i mean he did a really
• 41:03
  really good job um you know continuing to
• 41:06
  explain to people that while things can
• 41:09
  maybe change in person it may not actually
• 41:11
  have a bigger impact on the overall
• 41:13
  leaderboard but if you had the leaderboard
• 41:14
  that you're talking about where it's just
• 41:16
  an accumulation of points over all of the
• 41:19
  tours very clearly you can see and that
• 41:22
  goes into hold on one second that's the
• 41:24
  train um that goes into
• 41:29
  What I didn't like is how long it
• 41:31
  took after the event to figure out who
• 41:34
  wins the event.
• 41:36
  I don't want to see the podium of
• 41:38
  the XIII, XIV, XV, XVII,
• 41:40
  XVIII Masters individual teams.
• 41:45
  Who won?
• 41:46
  Just tell us right there who won.
• 41:50
  At the CrossFit Games,
• 41:51
  they announce it right there.
• 41:52
  Sometimes they don't announce the second
• 41:53
  and the third right away,
• 41:54
  which I wish they would at the CrossFit
• 41:55
  Games.
• 41:56
  But there's been a few events,
• 41:58
  even in the CrossFit side,
• 41:59
  where they wait until all this leaderboard
• 42:01
  stuff.
• 42:01
  It's like, once you know,
• 42:03
  just announce it on the floor.
• 42:05
  Well, even back in the regionals days,
• 42:07
  which we all love,
• 42:08
  they didn't announce the winners.
• 42:11
  Yeah,
• 42:11
  and what sport do you wait like a
• 42:13
  half hour for all the podium,
• 42:15
  like from all the divisions?
• 42:17
  Like you don't,
• 42:18
  like it should be pretty clear who's
• 42:23
  When you watch the downhill skiing at the
• 42:25
  Olympics, you know who won.
• 42:26
  Right away.
• 42:27
  Right away.
• 42:28
  We've got second, third, fourth.
• 42:30
  We shouldn't have to wait for the podium
• 42:32
  of all of these other divisions.
• 42:35
  I get you want us to watch the
• 42:36
  podium ceremony, but just tell us.
• 42:41
  It took a tough hour at least.
• 42:43
  At least, I think.
• 42:46
  yeah well then they but they announced the
• 42:48
  podium and then they went and did the
• 42:51
  twentieth so you could know who was the
• 42:53
  top yeah but they could get all that
• 42:56
  done way earlier
• 42:59
  And again, if you had your leaderboard,
• 43:01
  we'd know right away.
• 43:02
  Well, yeah, you would have been,
• 43:03
  somebody would have been sitting at six
• 43:04
  hundred and forty points.
• 43:06
  And if they would have, and you know,
• 43:08
  if you get first,
• 43:08
  you get a hundred points,
• 43:09
  you're going to be at seventeen forty.
• 43:10
  Bam.
• 43:10
  You already know.
• 43:11
  And if so-and-so finishes four places
• 43:13
  behind, they're going to finish here.
• 43:15
  Would have been great.
• 43:15
  We were just slow at putting like the
• 43:17
  results of the last event.
• 43:19
  So we didn't know,
• 43:19
  let's say like Laura finished thirteenth
• 43:21
  in that event.
• 43:21
  Like we're waiting for those results to
• 43:24
  even calculate.
• 43:25
  Yeah.
• 43:25
  So I just...
• 43:26
  I guess they want to be the ones
• 43:27
  to announce it.
• 43:27
  So I don't know,
• 43:28
  get ahead of it and do it faster.
• 43:33
  That feeds right into my last,
• 43:34
  my last issue.
• 43:36
  And that is the storytelling they tell is
• 43:39
  just about the winners, you know,
• 43:43
  but yet they tout when they're advertising
• 43:45
  the WFP that like,
• 43:46
  this is an opportunity for the up and
• 43:48
  comers.
• 43:49
  This is opportunities for people in the
• 43:50
  space.
• 43:51
  They never tell those stories.
• 43:53
  They're only telling the people at the top
• 43:55
  of the leaderboard.
• 43:57
  You can't name an athlete profile that
• 44:00
  didn't finish top ten.
• 44:07
  And that happens on the floor.
• 44:09
  They have in their mind who's going to
• 44:11
  win these events.
• 44:13
  The cameras go to those people,
• 44:15
  and they do not stray.
• 44:18
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 44:18
  Absolutely.
• 44:21
  And I don't know who's directing that or
• 44:24
  what, but it needs... That's hard.
• 44:30
  It's hard.
• 44:32
  I think that's the one place that I
• 44:34
  want the WFP to improve the most in
• 44:37
  their offseason.
• 44:39
  Storytelling.
• 44:43
  Storytelling.
• 44:43
  That's it.
• 44:45
  Focus on storytelling.
• 44:47
  The athletes are going to do their thing.
• 44:50
  You just tell their stories.
• 44:58
  For a first-year league or whatever,
• 45:02
  I still think that there's a lot of
• 45:03
  positives to take away,
• 45:04
  and clearly there's a lot to work on.
• 45:09
  But I enjoyed watching all three events
• 45:13
  and the elites go at it.
• 45:16
  looking forward to seeing them build off
• 45:19
  of this and continue to improve because i
• 45:21
  have felt like this one was definitely the
• 45:24
  best one out of all of them by
• 45:25
  far um and hoping that they've listened
• 45:29
  enough and they're on the right track for
• 45:32
  the following year but they need to figure
• 45:33
  out their season because if they're
• 45:37
  looking to add two additional events i
• 45:40
  don't think that's the way to go
• 45:44
  I think if they add two more events,
• 45:46
  it's going to create a bigger divide.
• 45:48
  A hundred percent.
• 45:50
  Well,
• 45:50
  there's going to be some exclusivity.
• 45:54
  Well,
• 45:54
  they don't even have to say exclusivity.
• 45:56
  People are going to pick.
• 45:57
  Yeah.
• 45:59
  People are going to.
• 46:00
  And then, I mean,
• 46:01
  I think Hiller made a good point on
• 46:03
  his video.
• 46:04
  You have Tia over here.
• 46:05
  You have Laura over here.
• 46:07
  They're considered the two best women in
• 46:09
  the sport.
• 46:09
  And we don't get to see them compete
• 46:11
  against each other.
• 46:12
  And that hurts all of us as spectators.
• 46:17
  I agree.
• 46:17
  Yeah.
• 46:17
  On the men's side,
• 46:18
  we saw them all go at it.
• 46:22
  Like this year,
• 46:23
  we don't know what happens next year.
• 46:25
  Exactly.
• 46:25
  Yeah.
• 46:28
  I mean,
• 46:28
  just picture a world where Jason Hopper
• 46:31
  and Dallin pepper pick the CrossFit game
• 46:34
  season and James Sprague and Ricky Gerard
• 46:38
  pick the WFP.
• 46:40
  And then we're cheated.
• 46:42
  We're cheated as fans.
• 46:43
  Yeah.
• 46:47
  Peter Benoit, WCW versus WWE.
• 46:49
  Yes.
• 46:50
  The nineties wrestling wars.
• 46:58
  Ken Walters.
• 46:59
  There's a lot I don't care for,
• 47:00
  but to put something like this together in
• 47:02
  twelve to eighteen months,
• 47:03
  it's pretty impressive.
• 47:03
  So many details.
• 47:06
  I do think they have the beginnings of
• 47:08
  something.
• 47:10
  What it becomes, I don't know.
• 47:15
  I mean, let's do our first pencil pen.
• 47:18
  It's easy to put stuff on a pencil
• 47:22
  pen or Sharpie.
• 47:22
  Let's do our first one.
• 47:23
  Okay.
• 47:25
  The WFP should become a European tour with
• 47:28
  one stop in the U S until it
• 47:31
  gets its footing as an event.
• 47:33
  So instead of having two events in the
• 47:35
  U S and one in Europe,
• 47:38
  and maybe they add more,
• 47:39
  so they have more options like Australia,
• 47:41
  whatever, but flip it.
• 47:44
  Two events in Europe, one in the U.S.,
• 47:46
  and then maybe add an Australian.
• 47:49
  Because it is evident that Europe
• 47:52
  definitely supported this more than the
• 47:55
  U.S.
• 47:55
  fans.
• 47:55
  I think Penn would really make it a
• 48:00
  world tour.
• 48:03
  John George goes Penn.
• 48:05
  Yeah, I can see Penn.
• 48:07
  I mean, I think that's true.
• 48:10
  Like, even Torium Pro, like,
• 48:14
  we see just fans show up better than
• 48:20
  they do here.
• 48:21
  But that's tough to say.
• 48:22
  Like,
• 48:23
  just because we don't necessarily have,
• 48:25
  like, the biggest turnout at maybe, like,
• 48:28
  Syndicate.
• 48:29
  We have big turnout for the games.
• 48:31
  This was their games.
• 48:33
  That comp's games.
• 48:37
  Yeah,
• 48:37
  I'm not debating anything you're saying,
• 48:39
  but the fact of the matter is semifinals
• 48:42
  draw better in Europe because they don't
• 48:45
  have as many options as we do.
• 48:46
  Right.
• 48:48
  And so I think if you want to
• 48:51
  get a picture of what it could be,
• 48:54
  you have to go where the fans are
• 48:55
  going to support it.
• 48:58
  But I also feel Europeans and, like,
• 49:00
  Nazis will travel more than Americans will
• 49:02
  travel to the other way.
• 49:05
  Correct.
• 49:05
  I think in our sport,
• 49:06
  Europeans and the Australians and some of
• 49:10
  the past few years that qualify,
• 49:14
  but they're more likely to travel anywhere
• 49:19
  to compete.
• 49:21
  A lot of North America athletes are less
• 49:23
  willing to make that trip to Europe or
• 49:27
  wherever it would be worldwide.
• 49:30
  Well, it would be more expensive passport,
• 49:32
  right?
• 49:32
  Like, is that not a thing?
• 49:34
  Because you guys
• 49:35
  Like maybe like in our sport people would,
• 49:39
  but just like fan wise,
• 49:41
  I feel like more people will travel to
• 49:45
  the States than the other way.
• 49:49
  Well, the WFP pays for your trip, right,
• 49:51
  if you're a pro card.
• 49:54
  But that would be more expensive for them
• 49:56
  because there are more in the top twenty
• 49:58
  that are U.S.
• 50:00
  athletes or North American athletes than
• 50:01
  are European.
• 50:02
  But I just think that when you're looking
• 50:05
  and you're selling to sponsors,
• 50:10
  if you go down through,
• 50:11
  I bet you there is more.
• 50:16
  I mean,
• 50:16
  just out of the top five men,
• 50:19
  I think there are four of all,
• 50:21
  but Ricky are American North America.
• 50:25
  If you count Roman in North America now,
• 50:27
  which she is.
• 50:29
  So women, we have one, two, three, four,
• 50:33
  five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
• 50:39
  eleven.
• 50:43
  Eleven women are North American.
• 50:46
  out of the top over half men are
• 50:49
  one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
• 50:58
  eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
• 51:03
  thirteen, fourteen.
• 51:05
  Fourteen men out of the twenty.
• 51:09
  Yeah.
• 51:10
  Are North American.
• 51:15
  So.
• 51:17
  Yeah, I mean, I guess, I don't know.
• 51:21
  You're going to end up with mostly,
• 51:24
  I feel like you're going to end up
• 51:25
  with mostly European challengers.
• 51:29
  Because if travel's not paid for,
• 51:31
  and whatever,
• 51:32
  maybe this is where this WFP is trending,
• 51:35
  and I guess that's the way you want
• 51:37
  to go.
• 51:37
  Because I don't think North American
• 51:41
  athletes that are fighting for the spot
• 51:43
  are going to be able to
• 51:45
  some there will be some who are sponsored
• 51:47
  who can get there but that's a big
• 51:49
  ask for no guarantee and i think if
• 51:51
  they don't fix this point point system i
• 51:54
  know we talked about this when this was
• 51:55
  announced and scott you said like there
• 51:57
  will be like several i think without these
• 52:00
  like five women withdrawing and like
• 52:03
  There would have been one change on the
• 52:05
  leaderboard.
• 52:05
  And I think that will be the case
• 52:07
  next year when they like kind of solidify
• 52:08
  this leaderboard.
• 52:09
  I don't,
• 52:09
  I don't think there's going to be much
• 52:11
  movement.
• 52:11
  So it does,
• 52:12
  it's not going to make sense for a
• 52:14
  challenger to pay to travel.
• 52:17
  I don't think they're going to,
• 52:18
  especially if those challengers are in a
• 52:20
  different workout, different points,
• 52:22
  you can't get, you can't get into there.
• 52:24
  Well, they said they're eliminating that.
• 52:26
  They're eliminating the challenger part.
• 52:27
  It's just they're not going to have a
• 52:29
  challenger division.
• 52:30
  There's going to be ten challengers that
• 52:31
  compete with the pros.
• 52:32
  Perfect.
• 52:33
  That will improve that significantly.
• 52:37
  Yeah,
• 52:37
  because I don't think challengers will pay
• 52:40
  because really they had no shot.
• 52:42
  Right.
• 52:43
  To pay for half the shot is not.
• 52:45
  I mean,
• 52:46
  if you showed up to all three,
• 52:48
  you had a pretty damn good shot.
• 52:50
  This year.
• 52:50
  Yeah, as I'm saying.
• 52:52
  Yeah.
• 52:53
  And it's going to be the same next
• 52:54
  year because the pros,
• 52:57
  if the pros show up to all three
• 52:59
  and compete to all three or four,
• 53:01
  whatever it is,
• 53:02
  it is very hard to take their spot.
• 53:04
  The reason why there were so many
• 53:06
  turnarounds this year is because there
• 53:07
  were a lot of dropouts.
• 53:08
  Right.
• 53:10
  But if those.
• 53:11
  And there were some bad picks for the
• 53:13
  top twenty.
• 53:15
  Yeah.
• 53:16
  Yep.
• 53:17
  A couple.
• 53:19
  And some of them didn't even make it
• 53:20
  to a tour.
• 53:21
  Exactly.
• 53:21
  All right.
• 53:26
  Second pen, pencil, or Sharpie.
• 53:29
  More than twenty percent of the tour card
• 53:31
  earners will decline participating next
• 53:34
  season.
• 53:35
  So at least three is what you're saying.
• 53:39
  I think that's a Sharpie.
• 53:40
  So like.
• 53:45
  And the reason I even thought about this
• 53:46
  is someone like Brooke Wells who kind of
• 53:48
  announced her retirement.
• 53:51
  Like she earned a pro card.
• 53:54
  Will she come back for another season?
• 53:56
  And I don't think she's going to,
• 53:59
  I think there,
• 53:59
  there is something going on with her and
• 54:01
  HWPO where she's moving into a different
• 54:03
  role and she's done competing.
• 54:06
  And that's just speculation on my part
• 54:08
  from things I've seen posted.
• 54:12
  She said in that interview,
• 54:13
  she was going to focus on the while
• 54:14
  on earth, which is business side of stuff.
• 54:16
  Yeah.
• 54:17
  I mean, I think that's partly Matt.
• 54:19
  So I think there's some, yeah,
• 54:21
  I think she's doing business side.
• 54:23
  So because of that,
• 54:24
  that's why I came up with this question.
• 54:27
  Eight athletes out of six, more than well,
• 54:35
  So it's, yeah,
• 54:36
  eight athletes out of forty.
• 54:46
  We'll decline or we'll start the season
• 54:48
  and then get injured or whatever.
• 54:51
  I said, I think it's,
• 54:52
  my question is decline.
• 54:56
  John George says Penn.
• 54:59
  think a lot of people are waiting also
• 55:02
  to see what's going to happen with
• 55:03
  crossfit and the sale and stuff like that
• 55:05
  and they want to keep that pro card
• 55:07
  option for next year to find out what
• 55:12
  direction they're going to go wfp what
• 55:14
  before they make any decision like if they
• 55:17
  if they don't make the right call in
• 55:19
  terms of the timing of their competitions
• 55:21
  and stuff you're going to see a lot
• 55:23
  of withdrawals um if it's if it forces
• 55:26
  people's hand i think you'll see a lot
• 55:27
  of withdrawals
• 55:28
  Not necessarily from, um,
• 55:31
  the bottom half of the field,
• 55:33
  but I think from the top half,
• 55:35
  I think the bottom half,
• 55:36
  like you have a lot of athletes in
• 55:38
  there that are bubble athletes for the
• 55:41
  games and to get guaranteed money is hard
• 55:46
  to,
• 55:47
  it's hard to say no for the top
• 55:49
  end when they have contract or have a
• 55:51
  good chance of winning money at the games,
• 55:54
  then it's less worth it for those athletes
• 55:56
  to continue.
• 55:57
  But those other athletes that don't have
• 56:00
  the same opportunity,
• 56:01
  this is a big deal for them to
• 56:03
  have that income guaranteed.
• 56:05
  Because, I mean, I went to the games,
• 56:06
  I made zero.
• 56:08
  Like at the games, right?
• 56:09
  Like I'm in the,
• 56:09
  like past the twentieth place.
• 56:11
  There's a lot of athletes in that position
• 56:13
  where they don't make anything really.
• 56:15
  I mean,
• 56:15
  you might make a little bit prior to
• 56:16
  the games at your semifinal.
• 56:18
  Maybe two, two grand, three grand,
• 56:20
  depending where you go.
• 56:23
  So that ten grand minimum is plus the
• 56:26
  hotels and
• 56:27
  played for is huge.
• 56:31
  I'm going to go pencil because I think
• 56:34
  on the women's side,
• 56:36
  it's still pretty illustrious.
• 56:38
  You don't have any of the top dogs
• 56:39
  that have really withdrawn at this point.
• 56:43
  On the men's side,
• 56:43
  it's a little shakier because it's lost a
• 56:46
  little bit of its luster with Hopper out,
• 56:49
  Jay Crouch out, those people.
• 56:51
  So I think you have a better chance
• 56:53
  on the men's side getting the withdrawals
• 56:55
  than you do on the women's side at
• 56:57
  this point.
• 56:58
  Because that field looks a lot more like
• 57:00
  the games field than the women's side.
• 57:01
  Yeah.
• 57:03
  And if you have that competition,
• 57:06
  the exposure can still be good.
• 57:11
  If...
• 57:12
  If WFP does any exclusivity next year,
• 57:17
  I think those top five men,
• 57:19
  zero shot that they sign up.
• 57:21
  Sprague would be the only one I would
• 57:22
  even maybe consider because he's stated he
• 57:25
  likes to compete and do this.
• 57:26
  He wants to do it as much as
• 57:28
  he can.
• 57:30
  he'd be the only one.
• 57:30
  And I still think even he would like
• 57:34
  consider that.
• 57:34
  Cause I, I mean,
• 57:35
  they all said it was a lot,
• 57:37
  but I would say at least four of
• 57:40
  the top five are for sure out.
• 57:43
  If there's any exclusively,
• 57:44
  or they know that there's going to be
• 57:45
  five stops,
• 57:46
  maybe there's going to be five stops and
• 57:47
  you only need to be in attendance of
• 57:48
  three.
• 57:49
  Maybe they think they can handle that.
• 57:52
  But I think.
• 57:53
  Is that they get automatic invites.
• 57:57
  people like Danielle Alex sir Jay Crouch
• 58:01
  all those people that lost their spots do
• 58:03
  they want to do all these qualifiers along
• 58:06
  with the game season no I think what
• 58:09
  what Hill are saying is just like just
• 58:12
  like Hopper Crouch dropping out Danielle
• 58:18
  and Alex are just as good of well
• 58:20
  I think that they made their decision yeah
• 58:23
  I think that was their decision was that
• 58:24
  they're
• 58:26
  i made the statement that i thought it
• 58:28
  was more likely for women to not decline
• 58:30
  because it's still a pretty illustrious
• 58:32
  thing he's just pointing out that some of
• 58:34
  the big women also withdrew yeah but i
• 58:38
  think their withdrawal was a decision to
• 58:41
  not pursue next year knowing that they're
• 58:44
  losing their spot and they're not going to
• 58:45
  go through those qualifying stages yeah
• 58:49
  not that they wouldn't qualify each one
• 58:50
  but i don't think
• 58:52
  I don't think they're going to put their
• 58:53
  effort into those qualifiers to regain
• 58:56
  their spot.
• 58:57
  When Danielle was so high in the point,
• 58:59
  she really only needed to show up.
• 59:02
  Show up.
• 59:03
  Exactly.
• 59:04
  Show up.
• 59:06
  Yeah.
• 59:07
  She would have finished it.
• 59:09
  All right,
• 59:09
  kind of veering away from the WFP a
• 59:11
  little bit.
• 59:12
  Tia put out a video today.
• 59:13
  I don't know if you guys had a
• 59:14
  chance to see it.
• 59:15
  Kind of an update on where she is.
• 59:19
  Really revealing her pregnancy, I think,
• 59:21
  for the first time and not with code,
• 59:23
  but actually like showing the belly,
• 59:26
  talking about being pregnant,
• 59:27
  what that means for her future.
• 59:30
  So I ask this question.
• 59:32
  Tia will transition to a supporter and a
• 59:34
  voice of CrossFit and away from competing.
• 59:38
  Pencil, pen, or Sharpie.
• 59:45
  I mean, I'll say for justice next year.
• 59:49
  I'm saying overall,
• 59:51
  like at this point in her career,
• 59:52
  she's going to move more into like a
• 59:54
  supporter role and a,
• 59:57
  a voice in the space than be a
• 1:00:00
  competitor.
• 1:00:01
  Okay.
• 1:00:07
  clock says pen john george says pencil i
• 1:00:11
  feel like she'll find ways to compete and
• 1:00:14
  stay active regardless i don't i i i
• 1:00:17
  think she's built different she's she's a
• 1:00:21
  she's a com like the most competitive
• 1:00:23
  person she'll find any outlet to to find
• 1:00:27
  a challenge i don't i don't see her
• 1:00:31
  stepping away from being a competitor in
• 1:00:35
  multiple
• 1:00:37
  still see her coming back.
• 1:00:39
  I think that's what drives her.
• 1:00:42
  So the reason I bring this up,
• 1:00:42
  and you guys haven't seen the video yet,
• 1:00:44
  but she actually talks about wanting to
• 1:00:47
  find her voice,
• 1:00:48
  wanting to be like that person that talks
• 1:00:51
  about CrossFit, that helps grow it,
• 1:00:53
  that helps jump in and do these things.
• 1:00:57
  But all the while, she also...
• 1:00:59
  leaks in these things about well last time
• 1:01:02
  i was pregnant i really focused on coming
• 1:01:03
  back to competing and i didn't have any
• 1:01:05
  regrets but i really want to do this
• 1:01:09
  and i wanted to coach athletes but we
• 1:01:12
  got feedback that the athletes don't
• 1:01:13
  really want me as a coach right now
• 1:01:15
  um that they would prefer shane it was
• 1:01:18
  really one of the most real videos i've
• 1:01:20
  seen her put out on her own channel
• 1:01:22
  And was actually pretty enjoyable.
• 1:01:25
  But she teeters in that where she says,
• 1:01:28
  I want to be a mentor.
• 1:01:29
  I want to be someone that people look
• 1:01:30
  up to.
• 1:01:31
  I want to be someone that shares what
• 1:01:34
  a great thing this is.
• 1:01:37
  But then it teeters back into that.
• 1:01:40
  Well,
• 1:01:40
  I did watch the High Rocks finals and
• 1:01:43
  I was like, man,
• 1:01:44
  wouldn't it be cool to be out there?
• 1:01:46
  And
• 1:01:49
  So you'll have to go watch the video,
• 1:01:52
  but that's,
• 1:01:53
  it was really just to get us to
• 1:01:54
  that talking point.
• 1:01:55
  But I don't,
• 1:01:56
  I don't think any way in hell is
• 1:01:57
  she giving up competing.
• 1:01:59
  I don't either.
• 1:02:00
  Whether it's CrossFit or not.
• 1:02:02
  Right.
• 1:02:02
  She's going to find something to compete
• 1:02:04
  in.
• 1:02:05
  Yeah.
• 1:02:06
  And.
• 1:02:07
  she is inspiring.
• 1:02:08
  Like just her competing,
• 1:02:11
  especially after being pregnant and
• 1:02:12
  pregnant now a second time,
• 1:02:13
  like that is inspiring to people.
• 1:02:16
  Like you are a mentor,
• 1:02:18
  like keep it up, keep talking about it,
• 1:02:20
  keep talking about how to come back and
• 1:02:22
  do things right.
• 1:02:24
  Um,
• 1:02:25
  So I wouldn't say that it's not a,
• 1:02:27
  that it's just pencil because I think
• 1:02:29
  she's going to compete.
• 1:02:30
  Like I can see the pen part because
• 1:02:31
  I do think she will be a,
• 1:02:33
  like a supporter.
• 1:02:35
  She is a good,
• 1:02:35
  she's a good advocate for CrossFit.
• 1:02:37
  Um,
• 1:02:40
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:02:42
  But I think she'll still...
• 1:02:43
  She can do both, exactly.
• 1:02:44
  I think she has stepped into that role.
• 1:02:46
  Yes.
• 1:02:46
  Her relationship with Dave has grown.
• 1:02:49
  He's using her to be the voice of
• 1:02:52
  the athlete.
• 1:02:53
  And I think that's a good step for
• 1:02:55
  CrossFit, too.
• 1:02:55
  I think leaning into your legends is a
• 1:02:58
  good thing.
• 1:02:59
  Not competing with your legends like him
• 1:03:02
  and Rich did for ten years before they
• 1:03:04
  reconciled or...
• 1:03:06
  the Matt Frazier, Dave thing,
• 1:03:07
  like that's not good for the, the,
• 1:03:10
  the sport or the game or whatever.
• 1:03:13
  Leaning into your legends and letting them
• 1:03:15
  be a spokesperson is a good thing.
• 1:03:16
  I agree.
• 1:03:18
  And,
• 1:03:18
  and I do like what they've done there.
• 1:03:22
  So our last thing for tonight is going
• 1:03:24
  to be holiday movies.
• 1:03:25
  And I have one last pencil pen or
• 1:03:28
  Sharpie, because if you,
• 1:03:32
  If you watch holiday movies,
• 1:03:34
  I ask this question.
• 1:03:35
  Pencil, pen, or sharpie.
• 1:03:36
  Holiday movies make us ignore the elements
• 1:03:38
  of a good movie because of the sentimental
• 1:03:40
  value they bring.
• 1:03:46
  That's a lot to think about.
• 1:03:47
  I don't know.
• 1:03:48
  I mean, yeah.
• 1:03:51
  Probably.
• 1:03:52
  Yeah, probably.
• 1:03:53
  but it's hard to associate a good movie
• 1:03:56
  without having a sentimental value to it.
• 1:03:58
  Like I feel like any good,
• 1:03:59
  any movie that you like,
• 1:04:01
  you have some sort of either you connect
• 1:04:04
  to it in a certain way,
• 1:04:05
  or you have memories of certain stuff like
• 1:04:08
  that.
• 1:04:09
  That's what makes it your favorite movie.
• 1:04:11
  So I think it's hard to separate both
• 1:04:13
  of them.
• 1:04:14
  Like there's not really a movie that I'll
• 1:04:15
  think is good without having some sort of.
• 1:04:20
  Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  I mean, I feel like,
• 1:04:21
  I would,
• 1:04:22
  I would like to think the like holiday
• 1:04:24
  movies that I like have good acting.
• 1:04:27
  Maybe they're not like the, like,
• 1:04:29
  I think we can all,
• 1:04:30
  like most people can say like the holiday,
• 1:04:32
  the Hallmark movies are pretty trashy.
• 1:04:36
  Like they're just, they're just not.
• 1:04:37
  But we all watch them.
• 1:04:37
  We do.
• 1:04:38
  We don't admit it,
• 1:04:39
  but we all watch them.
• 1:04:40
  That's where I, I want the question.
• 1:04:42
  Yeah.
• 1:04:43
  But I know they're freaking cheesy and I
• 1:04:45
  know there's some like poor acting.
• 1:04:48
  So yeah, in that aspect,
• 1:04:50
  I would say yes,
• 1:04:51
  just because there's some that holiday
• 1:04:53
  cheer or something like, yeah,
• 1:04:55
  we'll watch them.
• 1:04:56
  But I think the good holiday movies,
• 1:04:58
  like they're going to be our list.
• 1:04:59
  I think they're good movies.
• 1:05:02
  All right.
• 1:05:04
  List.
• 1:05:04
  This is Jamie's category.
• 1:05:05
  She's wanted to do this.
• 1:05:07
  So what are your five favorite Christmas
• 1:05:10
  movies?
• 1:05:11
  Holiday movies.
• 1:05:12
  I think there only needs to be one.
• 1:05:13
  I said, period.
• 1:05:16
  But I did make,
• 1:05:17
  I put all five on there.
• 1:05:19
  You want my,
• 1:05:20
  you want all five of mine?
• 1:05:21
  Yeah.
• 1:05:22
  Okay.
• 1:05:23
  One, The Family Man.
• 1:05:26
  And then Santa Claus, Elf, Polar Express,
• 1:05:29
  and Home Alone.
• 1:05:32
  the family man is a great movie.
• 1:05:34
  It would be really close to my top
• 1:05:36
  five.
• 1:05:36
  I, I was in love with Taylor Leone.
• 1:05:41
  So anything she's in,
• 1:05:42
  I am like all four.
• 1:05:44
  Um,
• 1:05:47
  I'm not a big Elf fan.
• 1:05:48
  I'm one of the few people.
• 1:05:49
  My family loves it.
• 1:05:50
  I'm not a big Elf fan.
• 1:05:53
  And I love Home Alone.
• 1:05:54
  And I actually saw a really cool thing
• 1:05:56
  with Macaulay Culkin talking about his
• 1:05:58
  kids have not made the connection that
• 1:06:00
  he's Kevin.
• 1:06:00
  No way.
• 1:06:01
  They watch the movie and they look at
• 1:06:03
  Kevin and they don't know it's dad.
• 1:06:05
  Oh my God.
• 1:06:05
  He looks the same.
• 1:06:08
  I know.
• 1:06:09
  And he said,
• 1:06:10
  but it's allowed him to enjoy his own
• 1:06:12
  work.
• 1:06:13
  because it's detached him from being the
• 1:06:17
  character because he gets to watch his
• 1:06:19
  kids enjoy it.
• 1:06:22
  What's funny is he's married to Brenda
• 1:06:24
  Song,
• 1:06:25
  who played London Tipton on The Suite Life
• 1:06:27
  of Zack and Cody,
• 1:06:28
  but they've made that connection.
• 1:06:29
  They know that that's mom when they watch
• 1:06:32
  Suite Life of Zack and Cody,
• 1:06:33
  but they have not made the connection with
• 1:06:35
  him, which is crazy.
• 1:06:41
  Clock One with Die Hard.
• 1:06:43
  uh meredith said why you were sleeping is
• 1:06:45
  one of my favorite movies the plot line
• 1:06:47
  is ridiculous absolutely a muppet
• 1:06:49
  christmas carol classic a polar express
• 1:06:52
  makes you want to believe number one for
• 1:06:54
  john george uh you have to love you
• 1:06:59
  have to have one of the classics i
• 1:07:00
  go with frosty i didn't count the specials
• 1:07:04
  as a movie so i didn't i didn't
• 1:07:06
  put any of those in my list carolyn
• 1:07:08
  do you have a list
• 1:07:11
  more but santa claus i think is like
• 1:07:14
  my favorite one i just that's like a
• 1:07:16
  classic to me um home alone elf and
• 1:07:19
  the bridge i mean really all home loans
• 1:07:22
  but i even i even don't mind the
• 1:07:27
  third one with the other with the other
• 1:07:30
  little guy that had like the little
• 1:07:31
  mushroom yeah i i love the home alones
• 1:07:37
  um
• 1:07:40
  They make, they crack me up,
• 1:07:42
  but they have a heart.
• 1:07:44
  Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:07:47
  No, I said Santa Claus is my favorite.
• 1:07:51
  It is a good movie.
• 1:07:51
  I watched it last night.
• 1:07:52
  Oh, all right.
• 1:07:55
  So mine are number five is love hard.
• 1:07:57
  Okay.
• 1:07:59
  Number four is the holiday.
• 1:08:02
  Number three is the Santa Claus too.
• 1:08:05
  Good one.
• 1:08:07
  And it's just because of the scene where
• 1:08:08
  he hands out the secret Santas at the
• 1:08:12
  school and the teachers all got their
• 1:08:14
  favorite toy from being a kid.
• 1:08:16
  That scene alone just makes that movie for
• 1:08:18
  me.
• 1:08:19
  And then number two is Love Actually.
• 1:08:20
  My family watches it every Christmas Eve.
• 1:08:23
  And number one is A Christmas Carol,
• 1:08:27
  the George C.
• 1:08:28
  Scott version from like the eighties.
• 1:08:31
  And the reason I love that one is
• 1:08:33
  I actually read the book when I was
• 1:08:35
  in junior high school, the Dickens book.
• 1:08:38
  And, um,
• 1:08:41
  And I love the story.
• 1:08:42
  And it's scary.
• 1:08:44
  It's not like your typical Christmas movie
• 1:08:45
  with the ghosts and everything.
• 1:08:47
  And the George C.
• 1:08:48
  Scott version picks up that the most.
• 1:08:51
  Like the true essence of what Dickens
• 1:08:53
  wrote.
• 1:08:54
  And so the George C.
• 1:08:57
  Scott version is my favorite by far.
• 1:09:01
  Ken Walters, Santa Claus,
• 1:09:03
  Home Alone are on the channel every night.
• 1:09:07
  Hiller said the holiday is the sporty best
• 1:09:08
  favorite Christmas movie.
• 1:09:09
  Good company, Scott.
• 1:09:12
  But we stayed in the same hotel at
• 1:09:13
  the games in twenty four twenty three.
• 1:09:16
  So, yeah, we could have watched it again.
• 1:09:20
  It's a wonderful life.
• 1:09:21
  I've I've never seen it.
• 1:09:25
  I think I've seen it,
• 1:09:26
  but I don't know.
• 1:09:29
  Put it in the show comments after so
• 1:09:31
  you can vote.
• 1:09:33
  Yes, the George C.
• 1:09:34
  Scott version is excellent.
• 1:09:36
  It is.
• 1:09:38
  The one with the rock I could watch
• 1:09:39
  again.
• 1:09:40
  Oh, that's awful.
• 1:09:41
  Red.
• 1:09:43
  Red.
• 1:09:44
  Red Santa?
• 1:09:45
  It's red, I think.
• 1:09:49
  The red one.
• 1:09:50
  I didn't think that was that bad.
• 1:09:56
  Have you seen Candy Cane Lane?
• 1:10:00
  The Eddie Murphy one?
• 1:10:02
  Yeah, it was okay.
• 1:10:03
  I thought it was cute.
• 1:10:07
  Krampus was the best.
• 1:10:09
  Red One had elements that could have made
• 1:10:11
  it great.
• 1:10:12
  It just fell short for me.
• 1:10:14
  It's like they hurried up and finished it
• 1:10:18
  instead of letting it play out like it
• 1:10:19
  should have.
• 1:10:21
  There was something missing in it for me.
• 1:10:24
  And I'm all for action movies and I'm
• 1:10:26
  all for the rock being jacked and all
• 1:10:29
  that kind of stuff.
• 1:10:31
  There was something that fell short at the
• 1:10:33
  end.
• 1:10:37
  But it's something different.
• 1:10:38
  It is.
• 1:10:42
  It was a good one-time watch.
• 1:10:44
  It wouldn't be something I would watch
• 1:10:45
  each year.
• 1:10:52
  Ken Walters' classic scene,
• 1:10:53
  Tongue on the Lamp, post-Christmas story.
• 1:10:56
  We put the Christmas story on every
• 1:10:57
  Christmas day because it runs on TBS all
• 1:10:59
  day.
• 1:10:59
  I have one more.
• 1:10:59
  Just Friends.
• 1:11:02
  I don't know if it's Christmas.
• 1:11:05
  It's Christmas.
• 1:11:05
  Around Christmas time.
• 1:11:07
  Okay,
• 1:11:11
  then I'm putting Just Friends out there
• 1:11:13
  because I love, love, love,
• 1:11:14
  love that movie.
• 1:11:15
  Just thought about it.
• 1:11:20
  I will say that I liked Red One
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  better than Deck the Halls.
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  Deck the Halls is my least favorite
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  Christmas movie of all time.
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  It's just mean spirited and it's not funny
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  to me.
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  And of course my wife and daughter love
• 1:11:33
  it.
• 1:11:34
  So I get, I have to watch it.
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  I'm forced to watch it.
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  I'll air young when he gets the bully
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  and he, yeah.
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  And that where he just calls him like
• 1:11:52
  string of curse words and
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  And then he ends up with the soap
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  in his mouth and Christmas story where he
• 1:11:58
  beats up the bully.
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  I don't know.
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  Hopper and James do the lamppost
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  challenge.
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  Do they really?
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  I don't know.
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  I wouldn't do it.
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  Uh-uh.
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  no thank you my cousin did it on
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  an ice tray just to see if it
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  really happens and it did and we had
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  it was not pretty all right guys well
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  that was fun good way to kind of
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  finish it up tonight um
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  Hope everybody has a Merry Christmas this
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  week or whatever holiday you may
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  celebrate.
• 1:12:51
  Hope it's festive and you get to spend
• 1:12:53
  time with family and loved ones.
• 1:12:56
  It's going to be a fun week for
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  me.
• 1:12:57
  I get to hang out with my mom.
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  We are not eating any traditional
• 1:13:01
  Christmas food.
• 1:13:02
  We're having pot roast.
• 1:13:04
  Oh,
• 1:13:04
  we're having pot roast on Christmas day.
• 1:13:07
  Also,
• 1:13:07
  we're have tacos on the day after with
• 1:13:09
  my family.
• 1:13:10
  So
• 1:13:12
  yeah bourbon pot roast carrots and uh
• 1:13:15
  roasted potatoes and uh can't wait because
• 1:13:21
  i hate turkey yeah shay wishes us all
• 1:13:24
  a merry christmas merry christmas to you
• 1:13:26
  shay with that guys don't forget to like
• 1:13:30
  and subscribe it really does help i'd love
• 1:13:32
  to get to three thousand subscribers
• 1:13:35
  We're just kind of hanging in that twenty
• 1:13:37
  nine sixty range.
• 1:13:39
  I would love, love, love,
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  love to hit three thousand if we could.
• 1:13:46
  With that, John George says,
• 1:13:47
  happy holidays.
• 1:13:48
  Go to the gym.
• 1:13:50
  Terry says, Merry Christmas.
• 1:13:52
  One last question since I got you guys.
• 1:13:54
  Do you guys do the twelve days of
• 1:13:55
  Christmas workout or do you boycott it?
• 1:13:59
  You did it today.
• 1:14:02
  Yeah.
• 1:14:03
  We, so it was for us,
• 1:14:05
  we were either going to do it tomorrow
• 1:14:06
  or Saturday.
• 1:14:07
  We're going to end up doing it Saturday.
• 1:14:09
  Some people might do it tomorrow that
• 1:14:10
  can't make Saturday, but yeah,
• 1:14:12
  we do it every year.
• 1:14:13
  I like it.
• 1:14:14
  I know we do it around the twenty-third.
• 1:14:15
  I don't know why that's the date that
• 1:14:18
  I was programming on.
• 1:14:20
  I think we usually do it Christmas Eve.
• 1:14:24
  It's,
• 1:14:26
  I know that it's not like great CrossFit
• 1:14:29
  programming,
• 1:14:29
  but it's my favorite workout of the year.
• 1:14:33
  I think for me,
• 1:14:34
  it's like around Christmas,
• 1:14:36
  like we don't get into the gym as
• 1:14:38
  much.
• 1:14:38
  So sometimes just doing a bunch of
• 1:14:40
  movements, doing it with people.
• 1:14:43
  It's a longer workout.
• 1:14:46
  Like I don't necessarily look at like
• 1:14:47
  trying to do it four times,
• 1:14:48
  just move through a bunch of things,
• 1:14:50
  sweat and take a couple of days,
• 1:14:53
  maybe off with family or whatever,
• 1:14:54
  if you need to.
• 1:14:55
  What percentage of your gym does it wrong?
• 1:15:00
  The count wrong.
• 1:15:03
  I mean,
• 1:15:03
  I would say twenty five percent of our
• 1:15:04
  gym always.
• 1:15:06
  Yeah.
• 1:15:06
  Yeah.
• 1:15:11
  I have to like, yeah,
• 1:15:12
  I have to lead people through it till
• 1:15:13
  like day four.
• 1:15:14
  And then they and then they've kind of
• 1:15:17
  got it.
• 1:15:17
  It's the beginning that's very confusing.
• 1:15:19
  And then once you're like into like round
• 1:15:22
  five or six,
• 1:15:23
  you start you're in your rhythm.
• 1:15:25
  But the first it's like one, two, one,
• 1:15:27
  three,
• 1:15:28
  like that beginning until you can kind of
• 1:15:31
  figure it out.
• 1:15:32
  Even I get mixed up.
• 1:15:34
  I love the person that just goes one,
• 1:15:35
  two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
• 1:15:37
  nine, ten, eleven,
• 1:15:37
  twelve and they're done in like ten
• 1:15:39
  minutes.
• 1:15:39
  I'm done in ten minutes.
• 1:15:42
  What?
• 1:15:42
  Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  I wrote my own four years ago and
• 1:15:51
  it's
• 1:15:53
  I've done several different twelve days.
• 1:15:54
  This one that I wrote four years ago,
• 1:15:56
  we've done it three times.
• 1:16:00
  It's a good freaking workout.
• 1:16:01
  If anyone wants a really good twelve days.
• 1:16:04
  I hate when people change it.
• 1:16:05
  I want it to be the same every
• 1:16:07
  year.
• 1:16:07
  I know.
• 1:16:08
  I program for CrossFit Coliseum in
• 1:16:11
  Toronto.
• 1:16:13
  I changed it this year because during
• 1:16:15
  COVID,
• 1:16:16
  the classes were a little bit smaller.
• 1:16:17
  We've grown so much as a gym that
• 1:16:20
  I
• 1:16:21
  spacing wise and we have a huge gym
• 1:16:24
  but i don't want to have a box
• 1:16:26
  a barbell a machine in there so i've
• 1:16:29
  just tweaked it to make it just easier
• 1:16:31
  for bigger classes to be able to do
• 1:16:34
  the workout without it needing as much
• 1:16:36
  equipment um as we've grown like in
• 1:16:39
  numbers to do the classes so i've tweaked
• 1:16:42
  it this year just a little bit from
• 1:16:44
  what we've had in the previous years which
• 1:16:46
  actually prefer the ones from previous
• 1:16:47
  year but it was it was still a
• 1:16:49
  good workout
• 1:16:51
  Um, Terry loved the twelve days, uh,
• 1:16:53
  workout.
• 1:16:54
  Uh, John George, I'm with you.
• 1:16:56
  I love it.
• 1:16:56
  One of my favorites.
• 1:16:58
  Um, Ken Walters,
• 1:17:00
  that's a cluster of the whole workout.
• 1:17:01
  It can be, yeah.
• 1:17:03
  Larry Young,
• 1:17:04
  our tonight's was something Christmas,
• 1:17:06
  but there wasn't anything merry about it.
• 1:17:08
  It really thought this was,
• 1:17:10
  I might throw up and laying on the
• 1:17:11
  floor after.
• 1:17:14
  And then Peter Benoit says,
• 1:17:15
  I did Hunter McIntyre's twelve days last
• 1:17:17
  year.
• 1:17:17
  It was decent.
• 1:17:17
  I'll have to look at that one.
• 1:17:21
  All right, guys,
• 1:17:22
  if you're doing a twelve days,
• 1:17:23
  good luck with that this weekend.
• 1:17:24
  If you've already got it done,
• 1:17:26
  congratulations to you all.
• 1:17:27
  Merry Christmas to everyone.
• 1:17:29
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• 1:17:30
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• 1:17:33
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• 1:17:34
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• 1:17:37
  Happy holidays.
• 1:17:38
  I will be back tomorrow with a lunch
• 1:17:39
  show and then taking Christmas off.
• 1:17:41
  But after that,
• 1:17:42
  we will see you all tomorrow.
• 1:17:45
  Bye, guys.