Nudge Nudge Wink Wink
Matt Chorley speaks to Nobel Prize winning behavioural economist Richard Thaler about this new book Nudge: The Final Edition and how governments can change people's behaviour in a pandemic.
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Times columnists Rachel Sylvester and Libby Purves discuss the day's news.
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