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Mica Sinclair and the spider woman · Mooney's Mythic Podcast

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SPEAKER_03: Welcome to Mooney's Mythic Podcast.
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SPEAKER_03: Welcome.
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SPEAKER_03: Welcome one and all.
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SPEAKER_03: Welcome to you all.
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SPEAKER_03: This podcast is sponsored by The Thread.
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SPEAKER_03: The thread that runs through the story.
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SPEAKER_03: The thread that we lost long ago.
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SPEAKER_03: The thread that came together to weave all the story, all the myth.
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SPEAKER_03: The thread that rolls around the spinning wheel of Sleeping Beauty.
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SPEAKER_03: The thread that Theseus followed all the way out of the maze.
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The thread that stitched onto the garments that the Emperor was
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never wearing.
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SPEAKER_03: All of the threads.
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SPEAKER_03: The thread that comes from the centre of the being of the spider.
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SPEAKER_03: The thread that the Spider Woman uses to create the world.
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SPEAKER_03: I know a woman who weaves the night sky.
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SPEAKER_03: See how she moves, see how her fingers fly.
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SPEAKER_03: She knows the future from beginning to end.
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SPEAKER_03: She is our mother, our lover, our friend.
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SPEAKER_03: Hey, last episode, guys.
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SPEAKER_03: What can possibly go wrong?
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SPEAKER_03: Here we are.
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SPEAKER_03: And I've got a friend with me, a really exciting friend with me.
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SPEAKER_03: Can we just have the trumpets ablaze?
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SPEAKER_02: For Misha Sinclair.
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SPEAKER_03: So great to have you here.
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SPEAKER_01: Really good to be here.
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SPEAKER_03: Misha's an amazing storyteller.
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SPEAKER_03: She just bristles and thrums with sound and story.
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SPEAKER_03: So it's a real thrill to have her here on this pod,
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SPEAKER_03: on the final pod,
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as a kind of example of all the amazing guests that have been
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on this pod.
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SPEAKER_03: So thank you to everyone that's been on here so far.
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SPEAKER_03: But, oh, that's me getting comfortable.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Misha, can you sing us a song?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Sing a song, go on.
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SPEAKER_03: A welcome song.
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SPEAKER_03: A welcome song, and then we'll find out all about you.
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SPEAKER_00: This is our welcome song.
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SPEAKER_00: You can sing with me.
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SPEAKER_00: This is our welcome song.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody can sing.
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SPEAKER_01: This is our welcome song.
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SPEAKER_01: This is our welcome song.
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SPEAKER_00: Come on now.
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SPEAKER_00: Who do you think you are?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm alive, I'm alive.
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SPEAKER_01: In Sarah's living room, come on baby.
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SPEAKER_01: Who do you think you are?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm alive, I'm alive.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm alive, I'm alive.
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SPEAKER_01: This is a welcome song.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, everybody sing along.
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SPEAKER_01: This is a welcome song.
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SPEAKER_01: Sweet, sweet, this love, it was made for us.
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SPEAKER_01: Can't beat this love that we made for us.
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SPEAKER_01: Sweet, sweet, oh, sweet, sweet, this love, oh.
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SPEAKER_01: Sweet, sweet, this love, we made it just for us.
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SPEAKER_01: Who did we make it for?
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SPEAKER_01: We made it for you guys.
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SPEAKER_01: We made it for you guys.
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SPEAKER_01: We made it just for us.
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SPEAKER_01: We made it just for us.
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SPEAKER_01: Sweet, sweet, this love, this is your welcome.
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Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome you here with us now.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome me here with you.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome you here with me.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to sweet home Alabama.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Misha.
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SPEAKER_00: That's all right.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's time to take the scarf off.
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SPEAKER_03: It's hot.
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SPEAKER_03: You see what she did there, guys?
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SPEAKER_03: You see what she did?
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She just sang with her heart and her soul and her life and her
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music and everything.
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SPEAKER_03: And yeah, really, you're a dude, Misha.
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SPEAKER_03: You are a dude.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: So I want to know how you got into storytelling.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, how did I get into storytelling?
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SPEAKER_00: I think I got into storytelling.
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't really know anything about storytelling.
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SPEAKER_00: And then it was lockdown and my friend Leah Lazell,
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SPEAKER_00: big shout out to Leah Lazell if you're out there.
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SPEAKER_00: To all my layers.
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SPEAKER_00: Um...
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she was like Misha you have to meet this woman she's amazing
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this storyteller woman
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that I've met in Totnes and she showed me her Facebook and it
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was somebody called
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Samantha Rose and she was like dressed really beautifully with
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this hat and she was
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like taking on a story on her Facebook into the woods and I was
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like wow that woman
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SPEAKER_00: is fucking cool um
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SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
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SPEAKER_00: It's all right.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't really swear very often, but there we go.
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SPEAKER_00: It's because you're excited.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I'm excited.
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SPEAKER_00: She is fucking cool.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was like, wow, I was so impressed with her.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: I was so impressed.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it was reflecting who I wanted to be.
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And then she was putting on like a container called something
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like something about the heart.
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So when we kind of travelled together for three months and she
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would tell us a
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SPEAKER_00: story and we'd do like art and it like re-woke something in me,
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SPEAKER_00: really enlivened me.
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SPEAKER_00: I was feeling a bit depressed,
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SPEAKER_00: not depressed,
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SPEAKER_00: but it was like,
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SPEAKER_00: I think I used the metaphor,
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SPEAKER_00: it was like suddenly all of these like animals,
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I was like the rainforest had been sleeping and it had been
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snowing in the rainforest.
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SPEAKER_00: Suddenly they were all coming back alive.
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SPEAKER_00: And so it really awoken something.
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SPEAKER_00: And then she led me to Emerson College.
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SPEAKER_00: And I heard about their storytelling course with Roy Yee.
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And so I did like a weekend course there for four months about
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our own personal stories.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I did the three month course.
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storytelling school where i lived there and it was just at the
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end of lockdown and
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so everything was still kind of closed and we were like every
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day like oh we're
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gonna make it there was 14 of us when normally there's about 24
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people it was in
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autumn instead of spring it was completely different but
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because it's called
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SPEAKER_00: storytelling beyond words
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SPEAKER_00: I really loved the beyond words more than the storytelling.
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SPEAKER_00: I still didn't really feel like really got the storytelling as much.
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I liked it,
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but it was really last November,
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not the one gone,
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the one before.
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SPEAKER_00: So a year and a bit.
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SPEAKER_00: when I started to put on these story circles.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think that was really when I really began.
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And so I kind of feel like I'm at the beginning of storytelling somehow,
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in a way.
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SPEAKER_00: And that feels, but also tight.
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SPEAKER_00: It's also been with me.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like a part of you that you're kind of bringing out.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: And what was the first story that you told?
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SPEAKER_03: Can you remember?
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SPEAKER_03: No.
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I remember we told Alalaira...
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No,
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the first story was about...
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I told Alalaira.
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SPEAKER_00: The first story was...
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can't remember yeah i was just thinking i don't think i would
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be able to remember
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the first one that popped into my head that i really remember
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is the taliesin story
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that i told this was on the course but the first story was my
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story that i told in
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the storytelling one about personal stories and it was about
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that beautiful
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portuguese woman that i met and fell in love with and then
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nothing happened but it
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SPEAKER_00: was about that and then i told that story uh-huh um
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SPEAKER_03: It's a great place to start, I think, to start to mind your own...
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stories and to have that as a an anchor point when you're
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telling stories i feel
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like it's important to know what are stories about for you i
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think because i tell
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i've told in the past like you know stories about disappointing
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boyfriends or
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whatever wrapped up in some stories about princes or or
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whatever and that feels a
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bit unfair you know kind of need to process my content
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somewhere else not in a
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SPEAKER_00: primary school in peckham right yeah
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There is something about what I learned or saw was sometimes a
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story can be,
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SPEAKER_00: if it's not finished in you and you share it,
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SPEAKER_00: it's really hard to receive,
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SPEAKER_00: I think.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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SPEAKER_00: when you can kind of feel it's really,
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SPEAKER_00: it's kind of like this is your,
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's okay if it's your processing,
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but it's like you've got to come to some conclusion so that we
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feel safe that
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SPEAKER_00: you've got us.
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And I have watched or heard of when I haven't really,
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I'm like,
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oh,
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that feels a bit.
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SPEAKER_00: So something in that.
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i'm feeling that about i'm telling tatterhood this weekend okay
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and um i've told it
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before and i think wow i don't know that's it's not in me and i
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when i told it
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before it was like a birthing of that story but i was so
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exhausted when i finished
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SPEAKER_03: telling that night i remember and i think um
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SPEAKER_03: Maybe I...
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_03: I just...
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SPEAKER_03: I'm really going deeper,
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SPEAKER_03: deeper,
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deeper into the story now and I'm looking forward to seeing
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what difference it makes,
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SPEAKER_03: you know.
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SPEAKER_03: You mean when you told it you weren't completely in it?
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I don't feel I was completely in it and there's something about
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it birthing in the
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SPEAKER_03: moment that's exciting,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: and it's fresh and it's a story.
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SPEAKER_03: You know,
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sometimes it takes years of storytelling for me for a story to
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really kind of feel
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SPEAKER_03: whole and often...
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SPEAKER_03: When I feel I'm complete with a story, then I can stop telling it.
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SPEAKER_03: It's a deep journey.
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But there was something about feeling like I missed it or
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something that made me
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SPEAKER_03: utterly drained at the end.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's really interesting.
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I've noticed sometimes it feels like stories are ahead of me
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and I'm trying to
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catch up with it and actually I come away from that performance
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and I'm like,
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SPEAKER_00: oh,
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SPEAKER_00: I really...
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you know i think it was all right but i wasn't really enjoying
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it because i felt
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like it was always in front of me and sometimes i feel like ah
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it just feels i love
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it so much it's like invigorating and i'm so it's so with me
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and also i wrote a
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SPEAKER_00: story for kids part of this arts council funding and
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i was exhausted after it and it made me think well something
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wasn't right here
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because i was so tired after it and i was like i used to
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perform years ago and i'd
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be so tired afterwards and i think i don't know what it was i
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think i think i'm
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learning not if i'm exhausted after it something wasn't quite
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right you know
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SPEAKER_00: because often i can feel so energized and it's just like
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beautiful but brilliant so it makes me think about Sally Pond
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Clayton was saying
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she's just written a book of goddess stories and she's saying
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some of the stories
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she's told for 40 years and that as a young storyteller she
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didn't feel a match for
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them and that as she's grown she's got bigger and bigger and
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more experienced and
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SPEAKER_03: can meet the stories in different ways and that reminded me of kind of
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as a young storyteller I didn't know what I didn't know I just
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kind of I just had
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this burning desire to tell stories and then I kind of had a
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feeling of sort of
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shame of like oh my god what am I doing this you know who am I
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little me to tell
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these massive stories and that's the constant kind of journey
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of feeling good
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SPEAKER_03: enough and big enough and la la la whatever
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And that's one of the things I'm looking forward to with this
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being the last pod
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episode of being able to take more care over stories and spend
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some time really
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coming back to being the storyteller that's not producing a
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podcast every week and
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SPEAKER_03: doing something new every week.
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SPEAKER_00: Is there some stories that you've really travelled with that you still...
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yeah like getting bored of them or yeah there's loads that I've
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kind of used to
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tell that I don't tell anymore because I just told them forever
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um the ballad of
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Tamlin I did a whole storytelling tour um it with the
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whispering wood folk with
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that and I loved that story but it's like I told it for kind of
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two years in
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SPEAKER_03: different woodlands and yeah I don't think I'd
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it'll be another 10 years before i tell that again and um
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donkey skin um there's a
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story called donkey skin which i told a lot there's a there's a
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story about the um
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uh woman who's the milky way that i told forever and this story
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that's the one that
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you wrote yeah that i wrote down and i learned that and i told
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that oh the estonian
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SPEAKER_00: one did
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SPEAKER_00: I did, yeah, it really inspired me.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I did.
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SPEAKER_00: I think the little book that you gave me.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I did a festival or two.
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SPEAKER_00: I credited you, don't worry.
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SPEAKER_00: Just a delight.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I loved, I really loved it.
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SPEAKER_00: I liked it when you said, and then she saw him.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I find now that I'm saying that.
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SPEAKER_00: And then she saw him.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that's what you... And then she saw... No, then he saw her.
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And she was...
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I can't really remember it fully,
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but...
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I can't really read it.
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SPEAKER_03: And that's the thing.
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SPEAKER_03: As soon as I write it down, for me, it lost its fluidity.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Because I've never written any stories down.
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I've never...
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I've always created them in the moment and told them in the moment.
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SPEAKER_03: And, yeah, today I was looking on the Society for Storytelling...
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chat and someone offered somebody else a script of a story that
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they told and I
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thought wow people do things really differently you know lots
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of people do write
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their stories down and learn them and then lift them off the
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page but that's really
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hard for me to kind of get something off the page I think we
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might be similar yeah
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because I've been writing this story and it's not I'm not
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writing it do you know
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SPEAKER_00: what I mean it's like comes in visions and imagery it's exhausting
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SPEAKER_00: I found it quite exhausting to birth a story.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's hard work and it looks like nothing as well.
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I do lots of washing up and kind of menial jobs because the
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story's just kind of
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SPEAKER_03: moving slowly and I need to be moving my body and doing kind of mundane,
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SPEAKER_03: rhythmical movements whilst the story's kind of moving around.
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SPEAKER_03: And I remember working with this actor,
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SPEAKER_03: Tony,
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SPEAKER_03: bless him,
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SPEAKER_03: he's dead now,
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SPEAKER_03: but when I was a young actress...
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I was with this company called Northern Stage Ensemble and and
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he would be kind of
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muttering around in the corner and if anyone trying to talk to
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him he'd say it's my
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process leave me alone it's my process and I didn't understand
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that for you know 20
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years later it's like he just needed that time of just like
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letting it all macerate.
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what do you want to do i find it walking walking yeah
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absolutely walking is so
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important yeah yeah well then it can uh ground yeah that's what
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grounds the story
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isn't it yeah what do you want to do on the pod today that's
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what i didn't ask you
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before we started i don't know but do you want to do you want
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to tell a story or a
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SPEAKER_03: part of a story or do you want to chat it's up to you
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SPEAKER_00: I like the chat.
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SPEAKER_00: That's great.
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And maybe I can tell a little bit of the beginning of my story
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that I've been making.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what I was going to ask.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe we can talk about that a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: But not too much because, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a little taster.
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SPEAKER_00: Got to keep it under wraps.
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SPEAKER_00: Great.
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SPEAKER_03: I think.
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SPEAKER_03: So, you are doing a story performance next Sunday.
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SPEAKER_00: Next Sunday, the 9th of March, 7 till 9, at the Wardrobe Theatre.
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SPEAKER_00: In Bristol.
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SPEAKER_00: In Bristol.
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SPEAKER_00: In Bristol.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to have Emmy the harp on harp.
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SPEAKER_00: Somebody called Katie on cello and she's got a bass, not a double bass.
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And somebody called Sophie on the clarinet and they're going to
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play with me.
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SPEAKER_00: We've not played together yet or before.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's all going to be quite spontaneous, off the cuff in the moment.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm quoting my blurb.
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SPEAKER_00: And,
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SPEAKER_00: yeah,
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SPEAKER_00: I've been at Sandy Hill Arts Residency the last few days,
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SPEAKER_00: last week,
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SPEAKER_00: for four days,
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SPEAKER_00: which is a place near,
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SPEAKER_00: in Corfe,
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SPEAKER_00: near Corfe Castle.
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SPEAKER_00: And I kind of,
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SPEAKER_00: well,
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SPEAKER_00: I've been writing,
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SPEAKER_00: thinking about this story since I went on your retreat,
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SPEAKER_00: which was in September,
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SPEAKER_00: and I had,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: the beginnings of it.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's been a while now.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's still, I'm still kind of figuring it out or, like,
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working on the scenes and trying to like make them more
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descriptive and like,
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SPEAKER_00: yeah,
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SPEAKER_00: because it's all fair and well saying this happens,
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SPEAKER_00: but how do I,
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SPEAKER_00: how do I become a little bit more descriptive?
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SPEAKER_00: That's my, I think that's my edge, my learning edge.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I learn it all and then I forget it, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: And then I can,
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SPEAKER_00: so I've just actually been with Emmy today,
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SPEAKER_00: performing the story with her for the first time.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it went really well.
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SPEAKER_00: Great.
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SPEAKER_00: It takes a lot to, you know,
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It feels like it takes a lot of me to...
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It feels like it's coming out of me.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I really feel it.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I've been through Spider Woman's journey already today.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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SPEAKER_03: So I've got something to ask you.
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SPEAKER_03: Great.
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SPEAKER_03: Because on the 9th of March,
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SPEAKER_03: I'm running a course that day,
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SPEAKER_03: so I don't think I'm going to be able to get to Bristol anymore.
18:18
for your gig and I was thinking about finishing the course
18:21
early and jumping in the car.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: I really wanted to see the show and then I thought,
18:25
SPEAKER_03: Misha,
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SPEAKER_03: will you come and do it in Glastonbury?
18:28
SPEAKER_03: I'd love to do it in Glastonbury.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: The only thing is it might just be me.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: It's hard, isn't it?
18:33
SPEAKER_00: I'd have to get,
18:34
SPEAKER_00: because I've paid,
18:35
SPEAKER_00: this show's costing me like £1,200 for the wardrobe theatre,
18:39
for the musicians £300 and actually that's all been funded by
18:43
the Arts Council.
18:44
So I would love to come and maybe it'll be me and the guitar
18:47
and the loop pedal.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: Brilliant.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: But that would be good.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: Brilliant.
18:51
SPEAKER_03: And we can invite everyone else if they want to come.
18:53
SPEAKER_03: We can invite everybody else if they want to come.
18:54
SPEAKER_03: But I thought we could have,
18:56
SPEAKER_03: if we've got time,
18:57
we could have a little look at Pendragon at the room up there
18:59
and I'll show you.
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SPEAKER_03: Great.
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SPEAKER_03: We could do it here, very small.
19:01
SPEAKER_03: We could do it there.
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SPEAKER_03: But anyway.
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SPEAKER_00: I'd love to do that.
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SPEAKER_00: Misha Sinclair's going to come to Gastonbury.
19:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm coming to Gastonbury.
19:06
SPEAKER_03: Yes, great.
19:07
SPEAKER_03: That's brilliant because I feel I'm missing out there a little bit.
19:10
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be filmed.
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SPEAKER_00: And photographised.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: Photographised.
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SPEAKER_03: Excellent.
19:16
SPEAKER_03: I love a bit of photographising.
19:21
SPEAKER_03: I look forward to those photographations.
19:23
SPEAKER_03: Right.
19:24
SPEAKER_03: Me too.
19:26
And is it going to be filmed like as a live feed or what are
19:29
you going to do with it?
19:32
SPEAKER_00: The guy's going to come to my sound check.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: get some little footages,
19:36
SPEAKER_00: some pictures on the stage,
19:38
SPEAKER_00: and then he's going to film it from two cameras.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: And then it's not going to be live streamed.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: And then I don't know really what I'm going to do with it.
19:47
I guess it just feels good to have and good for my website to
19:51
have little videos and shots.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Looks cool.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Me in the wardrobe theatre with...
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SPEAKER_03: three lady musicians as it should be you need a band you're absolutely a
20:01
storyteller that needs to have a band not that you're not
20:05
enough you know as you
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are but I hope to see in the future you with many many gigs
20:13
with your band thank
20:14
you great yeah do you want to do a bit of a little taster of
20:18
the story okay all
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SPEAKER_03: right little bit whatever you like do as much as you as you feel yeah
20:27
SPEAKER_00: If I sing the first song, it gives it away.
20:29
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
20:31
How many people do you think that listen to this podcast are
20:33
coming to the show?
20:34
SPEAKER_00: Five.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: Hi everybody, Misha.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: But there's only five tickets left.
20:41
SPEAKER_03: There's five tickets left, guys.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: Grab them.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: It's free, and that's why there's five tickets left.
20:47
SPEAKER_03: And it's free, so if you've got a ticket, make sure you turn up.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: Make sure you come.
20:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's what we want to say.
20:54
SPEAKER_03: If you sing the first song, give it away.
20:56
SPEAKER_03: Okay,
20:56
SPEAKER_03: so you can just say song,
20:57
SPEAKER_03: song,
20:58
SPEAKER_03: song,
20:58
SPEAKER_03: and then...
20:59
SPEAKER_00: No,
20:59
SPEAKER_00: but it's nice to,
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SPEAKER_03: like,
21:01
SPEAKER_03: go in with the song.
21:03
I think it's lovely if you hear a little bit of the song on a
21:08
pod and then you come
21:09
and see it I think it's lovely it's not my song you'll know it
21:15
you already know it
21:15
SPEAKER_00: because I've already sung this once with you alright
21:33
SPEAKER_01: We get it almost every night Do you know it yet?
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Yeah,
21:41
I know it When the moon is big and bright It's a supernatural
21:53
delight Everybody's dancing
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We like our fun and we never fight We will dance and stay off
22:09
tight I'll keep my cool,
22:12
SPEAKER_01: oh,
22:13
SPEAKER_01: I'll keep it tight Everybody's dancing
22:19
SPEAKER_01: Moonlight,
22:22
dancing in the moonlight Everybody's feeling warm and bright
22:29
It's switching to me,
22:31
SPEAKER_01: finding natural sights Everybody's dancing in the moonlight,
22:40
SPEAKER_01: dancing in the moonlight
22:44
Everybody's feeling warm and bright It's such a fine and
22:51
natural sight Everybody's
22:55
SPEAKER_01: dancing Everybody here wanna know
23:13
how to be how to let go how do we change and find our way i
23:22
wanna be i wanna be so brave
23:31
Everybody's dancing in the moonlight Everybody's feeling warm
23:37
and bright It's a
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SPEAKER_01: fine natural sight Everybody's dancing in the moonlight
23:50
SPEAKER_00: She loves to weave.
23:53
SPEAKER_00: She is a weaver, weavering weavestress.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: She is a seamstress of wonder.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: She wove the world into existence.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: She is sweet existence.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: It forms from her hands, from her palms.
24:08
SPEAKER_00: She wove the world,
24:10
SPEAKER_00: she wove the moon,
24:12
SPEAKER_00: she wove the stars,
24:13
SPEAKER_00: each and every single one,
24:16
SPEAKER_00: she wove Jupiter and Mars,
24:19
SPEAKER_00: she wove,
24:21
SPEAKER_00: wove,
24:22
SPEAKER_00: wove the rivers,
24:23
SPEAKER_00: she wove the oceans and as she is weaving,
24:28
she is dreaming of depth and beauty is pouring out of her heart
24:34
in every moment
24:36
there is a possibility for something new to arise she weaves
24:42
the sky she weaves and
24:45
SPEAKER_00: as she weaves what she doesn't see that inside of her there is a seed
24:54
SPEAKER_00: This seed is deep and she doesn't want to see.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: So she pushes that seed deep down,
25:03
SPEAKER_00: deep,
25:04
SPEAKER_00: deep down into the deepest depths of her being and her weaving.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: Her weaving gets heavy in her hands.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: What she was holding becomes heavier.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: The seeds, the stars get heavier.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: And her weaving, her threads start to knot and to tangle.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: And she weaves heartbreak and heartache.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: And she weaves shame into the world and blame into the world.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: And she begins to weave a cocoon around of her...
25:39
stopping her keeping every thing out and as she weaves this
25:44
cocoon around her heart she
25:47
feels further and further away from all of the stars from all
25:51
of the beauty that
25:53
she wove and inside she feels rage and it falls out into empty
25:59
space she weaves war
26:01
in her heart she weaves forest fires and she weaves a storm
26:07
dark clouds and thunder
26:09
SPEAKER_00: crackles across the skies she weaves her way
26:15
SPEAKER_00: She is weaving,
26:17
SPEAKER_00: weaving,
26:18
SPEAKER_00: weaving,
26:18
SPEAKER_00: wondrous wonder and we will leave her weaving as she begins her journey.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: I hope you will come to hear the rest of the story.
26:32
in Glastonbury the wardrobe theatre and watch out for Misha in
26:38
Glastonbury and
26:39
catch her because I tell you what she is gonna fly and then
26:44
it'll be like tickets
26:45
like gold dust we'll be able to get there we'll be trading them
26:49
there'll be people
26:50
will be waking up setting their alarms to get up early so that
26:53
they can get in the
26:54
front of the queue before you know it so catch her now whilst
26:59
she's still modest
27:01
and
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SPEAKER_03: And small.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: May I always stay humble?
27:06
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
27:07
SPEAKER_03: You're welcome.
27:08
Wow,
27:08
and to watch you gathering the words and creating in the moment
27:15
is really precious.
27:16
SPEAKER_03: And for me,
27:16
SPEAKER_03: it's what storytelling is about,
27:19
SPEAKER_03: is that kind of like opening up,
27:23
SPEAKER_03: tuning in,
27:23
SPEAKER_03: knowing something so well...
27:26
SPEAKER_03: that you can riff in the moment is the magic for me of storytelling.
27:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
27:34
SPEAKER_03: Cool.
27:34
SPEAKER_03: So what, is it one whole story?
27:37
SPEAKER_03: Is it like a whole weaving of different stories?
27:40
SPEAKER_00: No, it's all just one.
27:41
So Spider Woman weaves the world and then she's pushed down
27:45
this seed and obviously
27:47
SPEAKER_00: her weaving becomes really...
27:50
yeah it's really you know full of anger and she weaves all of
27:55
this negativity into
27:56
the world that once she was so connected to and then um she
28:01
weaves her way with the
28:02
storm and it breaks the cocoon of safety and she goes down to
28:05
the ocean and it's
28:06
SPEAKER_00: like the ocean's wild and crashing and then that the sea parts
28:10
SPEAKER_00: As it does.
28:11
And she walks into the middle of the ocean and there's a door
28:15
and she goes through the door.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: Then she ends up on this journey.
28:18
SPEAKER_00: Don't tell us anymore.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: Don't tell us anymore.
28:20
SPEAKER_03: That is amazing.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm so with you.
28:25
SPEAKER_03: We're all with you, Misha.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: We're totally with you.
28:28
SPEAKER_03: So maybe...
28:30
SPEAKER_03: I think that you should record it as well as an audio.
28:34
I've got a guy to come and do professional recording of it
28:38
because there'll be live
28:39
SPEAKER_00: music and stuff.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be cool.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be amazing.
28:43
SPEAKER_00: I'm excited for you.
28:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm really excited.
28:47
so um you got a developing your creative practice grant i did
28:51
in order to create
28:53
this that's what's funding it isn't it yeah and um you could
28:56
apply for a project
28:57
grant couldn't you to um to tour it potentially yeah cool yeah
29:02
and as a part of
29:02
this develop your creative practice i also i had mentoring and
29:06
i also had um i
29:08
SPEAKER_00: basically put on a course called how to live a life we love
29:11
six weeks exploration not saying that I know how to live a life
29:15
we love made that
29:16
very clear and we're like halfway through the course we're just
29:19
about to go on a
29:19
hedge planting weekend weekend to plant a hedgerow on a halal
29:24
farm really random
29:26
SPEAKER_00: and that has been yeah really well yeah that's
29:32
very yeah it's kind of all very new and it doesn't sound great
29:36
to plant a hedge you
29:37
know it's like we've lived um via hedgerows in our ancestral
29:42
times on this land
29:43
certainly you know it's like the hedgerows contain the history
29:47
of our folk um kind
29:49
of pilgrimages and wanderings you know the hawthorn and the
29:52
blackberry and you know
29:54
all that's in the hedges i was out picking you can probably
29:57
smell it wild garlic
29:59
SPEAKER_03: this morning because it's just
30:00
shooting up and just yeah thinking about the times when we
30:04
walked at a slower place
30:05
and told stories and sung and yeah so you're halfway through
30:13
that course apart from
30:15
this thing on the night is there any other way that we can
30:17
connect with you or get
30:19
involved with what you're doing well I've been so focused on
30:24
this at the start of
30:25
SPEAKER_00: the year I was like I'm not doing anything else on my Instagram Instagram
30:30
misha m-i-c-a sinclair s-i-n-c-l-a-i-r and instagram is weird
30:37
right because
30:37
sometimes lots of people seem to see it and other times it just
30:41
nobody sees it and
30:42
SPEAKER_00: um but i i do post on there and then i will be
30:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't know about summer anymore.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling like, I feel like there's big changes coming, I feel.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know exactly what they look like.
30:57
SPEAKER_03: And you need to do the,
30:58
that's what I find really hard about advertising when you're an
31:02
artist because it's
31:03
like when you're performing and something's actually really big
31:07
and it does feel
31:08
like it's going to change everything and that planning
31:11
something in three months
31:12
SPEAKER_03: time or six months time just feels ridiculous because you've got no idea.
31:16
SPEAKER_03: It's like you're going to be,
31:17
broken into a thousand pieces and put back together and the
31:20
world's going to look
31:21
different and how can you agree to do a a gig um you know
31:25
because you don't know
31:26
what i don't know what stories i'm going to tell or whatever um
31:31
i was thinking
31:32
about that today but i want to do um a retreat in september
31:37
like the retreat that
31:37
SPEAKER_03: you came to um
31:39
and I was thinking oh and it's all about birth and then I was
31:42
thinking yeah but you
31:42
just think that because it's spring and it's not it's going to
31:45
be autumn and it's
31:47
going to be all about coming in and holding and I'm getting a
31:50
bit better at that
31:53
I've got some gigs coming up guys we are coming to the end of
31:57
the pod the end of
31:59
the last pod of season one of Mooney's Mythic Podcast and if
32:03
you're just like that
32:04
SPEAKER_03: woman's voice I've got to hear it live what's she doing
32:08
SPEAKER_03: Then this weekend's retreat is fully booked out,
32:11
SPEAKER_03: but you can come and see me on the 20th of March at St.
32:15
SPEAKER_03: Ben's in Glastonbury.
32:16
SPEAKER_03: That's a load of Glastonbury guys.
32:18
SPEAKER_03: That'll be a great night.
32:20
SPEAKER_03: I'm at the Magic Teapot Gathering at Mel's Fate at the Scythe Fair.
32:24
SPEAKER_03: I'll be in the teepee field at Glastonbury Festival.
32:27
SPEAKER_03: Come and see me.
32:28
SPEAKER_03: I've got the witch's hat.
32:31
SPEAKER_03: It's like a white witch's hat tent with a golden mushroom on top.
32:34
SPEAKER_03: Come and see me.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: then I'm doing Pretty Folk Festival,
32:37
SPEAKER_03: Toll Puddle Festival,
32:39
SPEAKER_03: Dance Camp Wales,
32:41
and then I'm going to spend some time really taking care of my
32:47
amazing patrons that
32:49
SPEAKER_03: are supporting me on Patreon,
32:51
SPEAKER_03: and if you're there and you're like,
32:52
SPEAKER_03: yeah,
32:53
SPEAKER_03: we signed up and she's just ignored us,
32:55
SPEAKER_03: I know,
32:56
SPEAKER_03: but I'm going to do some intimate storytelling with you,
33:00
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to invite you to some things,
33:02
SPEAKER_03: so I'm right there with you,
33:04
SPEAKER_03: so
33:04
you want to um uh support me on that you can it's mooney's
33:09
mythic podcast but
33:11
really thanks for hanging in there thanks for listening thank
33:16
you thank you it's
33:17
been such a massive journey it's been a year every week for a
33:20
year i've done this
33:21
podcast whether i've been high whether i've been low whether
33:25
i've been busy whether
33:26
SPEAKER_03: i've been quiet and
33:28
SPEAKER_03: some have been really deep dives and some have been really funny.
33:32
SPEAKER_03: Some have been terrible, I know.
33:34
SPEAKER_03: And some have been great.
33:36
SPEAKER_03: So I just really appreciate you tuning in to listen to what's going on.
33:41
SPEAKER_03: And if you've got any ideas about season two,
33:44
SPEAKER_03: what you want to be included,
33:45
SPEAKER_03: people you think I should get along,
33:47
SPEAKER_03: how you want it to be,
33:49
SPEAKER_03: Just keep on giving me your ideas.
33:51
SPEAKER_03: And I know like some people have got in touch and they're like,
33:54
SPEAKER_03: I just like it when it's just me and you,
33:56
SPEAKER_03: Sarah.
33:57
SPEAKER_03: And I'll be doing plenty of those as well.
33:59
SPEAKER_03: Plenty of those are just kind of sticking my microphone on,
34:02
SPEAKER_03: sitting by the fire and telling stories.
34:06
SPEAKER_03: But for now,
34:07
SPEAKER_03: yeah,
34:09
I'm just quietening down for a moment because this is the end
34:12
of the end of season one.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: And I want to thank the unseen and the mystery.
34:24
I want to thank the grandmothers that told stories when they
34:29
knitted and kneaded.
34:32
I want to thank the grandfathers who told stories in between
34:37
puffs on their pipe.
34:40
SPEAKER_03: I want to thank the priestesses and the priests who
34:45
SPEAKER_03: wrapped inside stories the secrets of initiation and soul rites that were
34:51
threatened to being taken away all the secrets that have been
34:55
wrapped up and held
34:56
in stories secrets of the land of the herbs of the earth wind
35:01
and stars i want to
35:03
thank you mother earth i want to really thank you for that we
35:05
get this this life on
35:07
earth where we can express ourselves and and be creative in all
35:11
the ways that we
35:12
SPEAKER_03: can
35:13
May you ever show me deeper ways of thanking you and being in
35:18
harmony and gratitude with you.
35:20
SPEAKER_03: May all my stories serve you.
35:22
SPEAKER_03: May all my stories serve the mystery.
35:25
SPEAKER_03: I'm so grateful for this gift.
35:27
SPEAKER_03: I'm so grateful to be alive.
35:30
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
35:31
SPEAKER_03: Blessings and peace, podders.
35:33
SPEAKER_03: Thank you, Misha.
35:34
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
35:34
SPEAKER_03: Thanks for coming on.
35:35
SPEAKER_03: Love you.
35:36
SPEAKER_03: Me too.