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3 Guys Before The Game - Oklahoma Preview (Episode 503) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Welcome in, everybody. It's time for the last time, time, for
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  the last time, last time, West Virginia plays Oklahoma in the sport of
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  football. For many of us in our livelihoods, I know you don't know
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  that, Okay, in a bowl game. Sometimes the whole thing could blow
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  up in sixteen months and you've got a whole new conference and you're back in
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  with them. Last game ever between West Virginia and Oklahoma. Welcome in.
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  It's episode number five hundred three. Three guys. Before the game, I
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  can just see Jokistiglio the ad over there at Oklahoma immediately jumping on the phone.
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  Hey, West Virginia, you guys want to do a home and home
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  with us. Yeah, here's the thing. You're probably right. It will
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  never happen again. Just I mean absolutely could have seen you in Arizona State
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  in the same conference coming in you and Utah coming insanely. So you're you're
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  right, oh, speaking absolutes when it comes to college athletics, because that'll
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  probably be the case a couple of years in the SEC. They might be
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  doing his his coffee clatch. I think we get him in here a little
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  bit earlier and then we come down. Sure, they come in looking forward
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  to that, come in and kiss his ring and do the whole thing.
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  I haven't done anything wrong there. He is right, that's Hoppy there,
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  that's him right there. Can we go near him? Don't get too close,
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  I get missed. I have miscast represents. Now, what you came
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  in with before we started recording today just absolutely validates everything that we think made
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  some accusations they were founded to be untrue. I'm not gonna I don't want
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  to get into that now. That's fine we don't need you to. We
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  don't need you to. So last time through West Virginia Oklahoma. Stop saying
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  that West Virginia Oklahoma. Hopey, I want you to do something for you,
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  Yes, sir, Since you've had the opportunity to be around for a
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  bit, what was your recollection of returning from Norman in nineteen and eighty two
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  when West Virginia beat the Sooners. I'll tell exactly what it was was.
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  West Virginia went into that game. Jeff Hosteller's quarterback, I think it was
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  his first start. It was it was coming out. Yeah, there were
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  no expectations that West Virginia could win that game. And West Virginia had that
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  was good. That was a good team with hass and went in and beat
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  Oklahoma, beat him, lined up, beat him, lined up, beat
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  him. On a hot day in Norman, Hostelller went crazy. I forgot
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  his numbers are through. Bob was through the ball over the field, and
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  I think it was a stunning victory. It was a program win for don
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  Nealon still in the early year for don Nelon and we planned a welcome home
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  and fans came out to the Facilities building and we broadcast live and the team
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  got back like at midnight, and it was a chaotic scene and don neland
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  got off the bus, you know how, Nil's like, what are these
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  people doing here? We got to get ready and he got off the bus.
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  I'll never forget this, and so whatever. We had a reporter out
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  there and we were going live and said coach, what about the Oklahoma win?
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  And Neiland goes, Maryland's the key game, Maryland because next week was
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  the Maryland. He was already thinking about the next game. He didn't want
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  people like preoccupy with Oklahoma. Maryland is the key game. But it was
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  one of the great wins in Mountaineer football history, and it was. It
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  was an arrival. It was a seminal moment for don Neelan. Were you
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  landing in Morgantown back then? I wasn't with the team, Okay, I
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  was back at the station. Was the team landing in Morgantown back then?
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  You know? I don't remember. They were on buses, so they might
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  have come down from Pittsburgh. I don't remember. They arrived at buses at
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  the facilities building it was, and there were fans there and they'd been there.
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  We love you, don We love you Oh yeah, it was great
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  area. Well, think about it. At that point, West Virginia had
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  come off of four consecutive losing seasons seventy seven, seventy eight to seventy nine.
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  Kneeling comes in eighty wins six, eighty one, he wins nine.
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  That was eighty one, No, eighty one, he won nine, and
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  this was eighty two. He'd won the Bowl game at the end of the
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  eighty one season Florida. Yeah, exactly right. And they come out of
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  that after that Bowl game victory. The first game of the next season,
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  they beat Oklahoma and Ever lost his first game. Yes, it was yeah,
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  yeah, that was his debut. Pretty good thing about that. So
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  you have that one, you have Carlin beck on a draw play. Yeah,
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  win, I've seen that play. And then the Fiesta Bowl victory,
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  and then last season here, those are the three wins West Virginia has against
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  Oklahoma. They're three and eleven all time in the series. This is the
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  fifteenth meeting coming up on Saturday night. Now, they did obviously get them
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  last year here before that last trip to Norman makes you still it gives you
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  that pit in your stomach. You had the procedure inside the goal on first
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  and goal, you had the snap and then they hit you with a walk
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  off field goal and they walked off. So the way I'm looking at this
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  thing, this is a good as good of a chance to take your swing.
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  As ever. You won two games in a row. You finally got
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  the offensive line back together, running backs, two of them are playing well,
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  defense solid, last couple of games. Let's go ball Tony. This
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  is an opportunity game, That's what it is. And you don't get many
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  of those. And that's what this is. Because Brad, if West Virginia
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  goes out and you lose, you know, it's bad. It's not a
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  not a good thing. It's not the end of the world. You're really
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  not in the national discussion. Maybe the national stories. Oh Khoma finally got
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  back on the winning track. If you go win there there'll be two narratives
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  on this nationally because it will be discussed even though there's a preoccupation with who
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  the top four teams are. It will be like, wow, what's wrong
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  with Oklahoma they've lost three in a row. But also you can't just only
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  talk about that. There will be others on the national media who will say,
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  how about West Virginia going in Oklahoma and winning, And how about this,
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  Garrett Green had a big game, and you know Neil Brown's on the
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  hot seat and he's turned it around. So you have an opportunity here to
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  push yourself into some of the national discussion with a win. Yeah, and
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  you're still hanging around taking a swing at the conference championship game, right,
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  I mean, I know that's unlikely probably for both teams in this game,
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  but it's still alive. I'm interested to watch this Mountaineer team that now has
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  it back on track a little bit over the last two go in there and
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  what is the most difficult place to play in this league at this moment.
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  So you go in there and you take your swings at these guys. I'm
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  anxious to watch Garrett Green perform against this defense. I'm anxious to watch this
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  defense. How do you stack up against what will be what the best quarterback
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  you face this year in Dylan Gabriel. I mean, he's fantastic. And
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  then the second part of that is where is Oklahoma's collective year? Right?
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  They've lost a couple games, and you know, when it's Oklahoma, the
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  losses for them are like dog gears. Calculate them in dog gears, right,
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  so that they're out of the BCS mix, they're probably out of the
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  Big twelve championship game mix. How do they respond to that? Is that
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  a they come out swinging because their backs are against the wall, or do
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  they just say, ah, well two goals are out, We're out right
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  to go school there? Well BCS, did I say BCS? Yeah?
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  And look at the losses. I mean, Kansas is not the Kansas of
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  Wold, but still you lost to Kansas and then you lost Bed one.
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  I mean those are either those aren't just losses. Those are losses. Yeah,
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  And it's you know, it's interesting in talking to their folks and looking
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  into them these last couple weeks. Their two game losing streak is exactly like
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  West Virginia's two game losing streak. It's fueled by injuries and turnovers. Right,
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  They've gone through both of those things and both were uncharacteristic for them in
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  their start. So they they hit that rough patch that West Virginia did a
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  couple of years ago. So this should be fun. I'm actually, you
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  go in there and take your swing and yeah, if it's the last time
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  you play them for a long time. Okay, so be it. Go
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  take your swings. Some are saying last time ever, still be a little
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  much. They're saying that, yeah, conference game in twenty thirty when we're
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  in the When twenty thirty, when everyone's in the national conference. Yeah,
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  when you're in the super League, the super League, when it's twenty thirty.
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  And whoever the idea is then says, oh, your non conference opponents
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  are pitt Penn State in Oklahoma. Yeah, and by them playing in Wrekovic
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  Iceland as a neutral Saska Fairbanks road game, playing in London. Then I
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  had over to Shamanad for a Tuesday game. Well, you know, you
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  know the thing that's not funny about that, I mean this, this Gonzaga
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  thing in the Big twelve continues to percolate. I mean it's not it's not
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  over. I mean still working it. They're still working it, they're still
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  trying to push it. Okay, Now they're in Spokane. I don't know
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  if you know that or no. It's way out there. I flew out
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  there. I flew out there once. Now that's trip. Now you can
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  say everything you want about going to Lubbock, go to Spokane. Yeah,
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  it seems like a whole nother. Anyway, gonna line up talk to Nate
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  Adrian's team over in Italy if they can. But that's that's besides, you
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  could probably get there more quickly now that international TV money there. Look at
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  that untapped market there, we'll get into a spreads in a Rome, We'll
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  get in a spread. Switzerland, Indonesia. That's harder to go to.
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  God, I'm done. You see the South Carolina women played in Paris?
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  Did you see it? They opened their seats? Right, I'm right right,
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  I read that right, right, I didn't see that. Yeah,
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  they played in Paris. Uh, they boat raced Notre Dame, but the
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  game women's game was in Paris to open up their season. I mean,
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  it's happened, right, it's happening since the last time we got together,
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  which was Sunday when we recorded. The Mountaineer men's basketball team opened up.
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  And that was interesting for a bunch of different reasons history. Interesting. Got
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  the result that you were looking for, but perhaps not in the way that
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  you thought you would get there. It was instead of a straight line to
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  the conclusion, it was a bit of a maze that you had to get
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  through. Yeah, when you when you missed twenty one field goal attempts and
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  go over fourteen minutes without a field goal? Were you counting? No,
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  Well, I have a monitor in front of me, so i'd like look
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  down on fourteen oh seven final fourteen oh seven of the half. Yeah,
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  without a field goal. Ouch. That's a rough first half. I talked
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  to was coming out of that firsts was you were only down six because you
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  made fifteen file shots. You made fifteen file shots. Yeah, and then
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  they they made free throws. Well, I mean they only took a few
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  in the second half, but then at the end of the game shooting well
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  from the free throw line, which is key, and then they came out.
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  I talked to Seth Wilson yesterday and what was that like in the locker
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  room there at halftime? What's going on? He goes, Well, to
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  be quite honest with you, we kind of laughed about it, like it
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  can't get worse. He goes, I'm missing layups, he said, I'm
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  It was just totally out of character. So I'll be really interested tomorrow when
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  the Hawks of Monmouth come in and to see how how much West Virginia can
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  clean up in the half court offense. Get the spacing, run better,
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  you know, cut better, run better, screens, do that kind of
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  stuff, understand each other better. I thought that was pretty obvious in the
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  first half. It wasn't just guys missing shots, which they were and then
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  ultimately hitting the second half shot fifty eight percent, so it bounce back.
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  I just thought it was clear there was there was guys and combinations they're looking
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  for, just that fluidity that comes from playing together and getting reps. You
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  just this group doesn't have. It doesn't have players that have played together enough.
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  So I thought that was clear in the first half that will that will
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  continue to get worked out here as the as the game's go on. That's
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  the beauty of basketball. You play so many darn games you can rep those
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  and get that back pretty quickly. Yeah, And like you said, Oklahoma
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  right now with its two game football losing street, it seems like for them,
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  since they don't lose often, it seems like two years. But and
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  so when you lose in football, everyone knows it's seven days. You sit
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  here and you just do and you pick it apart, and every offensive coordinator
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  out, Quarterbacks no good, get them out, receivers no good. Tight
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  Ends can't play lines terrible, get everybody outfire everybody. Yeah, and yet
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  not it's normally like Wednesday afternoon. If you have a bad loss, it's
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  like Wednesday afternoon from a fans perspective that they're finally able to let it go
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  and say, okay, all right, what do we have this week now?
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  But in basketball, like it's a shoulder shrug, like, okay,
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  we lost one, now, let's get going here. And especially when you
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  get to these tournaments and Thanksgiving week, like you go, you play like
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  you could go back to back days. A lot of these tournaments are play
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  off day and then play again, so you all of a sudden you start
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  putting a lot of games in your bag really quick. We have it happens
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  every year we do. There's there's multiple times when we do a sports line
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  that has that it comes after two games have been played. That's that's how
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  fast they come. However, oh yeah. However, the other side of
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  that is if you're struggling and you get on a little bit of a schneide
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  there in mid February, Oh he lost four games in row, and you
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  gotta go on the road and you got to play I mean, they keep
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  coming at you. Yeah, it's exactly. It's hard to stand up off
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  the mat because someone's standing over your rate of punch it. Yeah, yeah,
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  that's true. Yeah. Last night Jimmy Bell, former Mountaineer center now
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  playing at Mississippi State, matched up with Jose Perez Mississippi State against Arizona State,
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  and Jimmy Bell almost double doubled. He went thirteen and nine and Mississippi
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  State ran all over Arizona State. And Jose Perez, who never played at
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  DOUBLEEDVU but lived here, it started but was over four from the field and
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  I think he had two points at the file line and that was it.
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  So it just kind of like, man, you just everything basketball. To
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  me, there's no sport like college basketball. It's always been chaotic. It's
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  always been a wink wink sport. How you get your players, the whole
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  thing. Now it's entered in to an entirely different level of that. You
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  throw the portal in, you throw ni l in, you throw everything else.
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  It's absolute chaos. It's entertaining chaos. It's so crazy. Would you
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  agree with that, Senator, Yeah, yes, And it's it's even more
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  unpredictable now because of what we just talked about with West Virginia. You're just
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  throwing lineups out for most of these teams that have not been there before,
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  have not played together, so there's there's tons of chaos that that unpredictability creates.
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  Good boy, you don't you don't get a chance to. I mean,
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  you enjoy like last year and you enjoyed the coach, right, and
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  you just you don't get a chance to have more time with them. That's
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  yeah, and you'll do that. You'll do that like a Jesse Edwards will
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  be that way this year because I've seen him now in an exhibition in one
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  game live and I'm already going, dang it, right, got twenty eight
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  games left, and you're already saying, wish you could watch that guy for
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  three years? Five times more stability in the pros, you know, I
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  mean really now college now, college players are like James Harden. I mean,
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  which team is he on now? Yeah, he's with the Clippers now,
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  I mean, but he's it's like that. Yeah, you're right,
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  How do I know that? That was? That was a rare NBA nugget
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  for you don't know how I know that? Not sure, I'm not sure.
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  Gonna break down how you like him? In the two man game with
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  Kawhi Leonard there for him. Very well done. You know he was speaking
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  speaking of that coach Stevenson. Hobby you allude, you alluded to coach Stevenson.
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  Yes he has. He has begun his his apprenticeship in the G League
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  with the Austin Spurs. And I was just gonna look here, like really
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  super quick, what's he done so far? See we miss him? Right?
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  Yeah, he was great. That was a great one year. Yeah
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  it was. It's a great one year. Oh, what's going it's over?
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  What's he done so far? Coach Evenson? Uh? You jew not
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  that I want to do this before. They haven't played yet. Well it
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  probably doesn't either either either they haven't or he hasn't. But yeah, nothing
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  yet. Coming soon he'll be wearing number two. Eric Stevenson, all right,
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  ready to do this thing? How these numbers, these like these are
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  mature numbers. Now we only have three regular season games left, right,
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  so these are mature. Yeah, you always say when the season starts like
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  mature as the year goes right bad. Jump into the analytics worship of the
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  make you go whoa, Okay, here we go. Yeah. You know
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  you mentioned those numbers and they become more stable as you get throughout the year
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  and you have more of this year's numbers into those and so hopefully you can
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  get a little more predictive. But here's one and I talk about it every
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  week pre and postgame. We've gone to this and the biggest it's the biggest
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  key for West Virginia's defense, and that's the ability to get other teams,
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  your opponents into passing downs. And there's a pretty simple line of demarcation here.
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  You keep teams in passing downs thirty percent of the time or more,
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  west Virginia wins. The only exception to that was UCF. Say that again,
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  keep teams in passing downs right, thirty percent of the time or more
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  in West Virginia has won the game. The only exception was UCF. So
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  teams are in passing downs less than thirty percent of the time, it's been
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  a lost. Penn State, Houston, Oklahoma State all below thirty percent.
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  But do you want to do that? Does that mean as much when you're
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  playing a team as the best quarterback in the league. It's a good question.
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  So let's keep going here, hop Thank you, thank you for asking
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  that. So each of those teams and UCF, which is why that number
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  was the outlier, you still found a way to win. What did all
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  of those teams do against West Virginia they were able to the football right,
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  they had success running it against West Virginia, So that becomes the question here.
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  The first question before you get to the quarterback part of Oklahoma is can
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  West Virginia limit Oklahoma's rushing attack? And this is interesting. It's not been
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  the same rushing offense we've seen before from the Sooners. I mean, we've
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  seen some unbelievable performances when they've come in here. Remember samaj p Ryan coming
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  in here. He might still be remember them, he might still to eighty
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  four, whatever the heck he went for. This doesn't seem to be the
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  same Oklahoma rush offense that we've seen. Some of that has to do with
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  injuries they've sustained to each of the running backs they've tried to put in their
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  lineup at different times. But they have a negative EPA per rush on the
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  season. So EPA's expected points added. It's a way to measure the success
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  of each of those plays, in this case the run, but a negative
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  EPA per rush rush attempt for Oklahoma. The reason hop that you that you
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  want to get teams in passing downs is because when they're one dimensional as it
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  easier, right if you don't know what you're guarding. You've got a lot
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  of problems and that's been the success to West Virginia's offense for the wins.
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  Right, you don't know what they're going to do. Who's running it?
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  Are you throwing it? Are you throwing it deep? Are you going underneath?
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  So if you can make somebody one dimensional, even if it's a Dylan
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  Gabriel who's outstanding and has the ability to scramble, you take your shot.
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  And if they beat you being one dimensional, then so be it. But
• 22:21
  can West Virginia limit the attack? That's the first part. So if they
• 22:25
  can, then I think you're going to get some pressure on Dylan Gabriel.
• 22:29
  Now this stat's no surprise. This just backs up what you know about most
• 22:32
  quarterbacks. Dylan Gabriel different quarterback when under pressure. His PFF passer rating grade
• 22:37
  win clean ninety point two. That's pretty best in the Big twelve. That's
• 22:41
  pretty good. His passer rating when he's under pressure sixty one point nine.
• 22:45
  Again, that's pretty standard for most quarterbacks. I don't know anybody who's numbers
• 22:48
  better when they're under pressure. So get after Gabriel. Make it a little
• 22:52
  bit difficult. But here's the other part of the equation. Here's the other
• 22:56
  part. If you can limit the run game where this helps you in this
• 22:59
  matchup, in particular, if OU can run it successfully, it really opens
• 23:03
  up their ability to play action you, which they love to do. Guys,
• 23:07
  Gabriel leads the league in dropbacks with play action and has a seventy percent
• 23:12
  completion percentage on those passes. They're one of the most successful teams in college
• 23:18
  football with play action. They check in top five nationally in that category in
• 23:22
  success rate when using play action. So this one has an added layer of
• 23:26
  importance to stop the run game. If they're running on you and then they
• 23:30
  can play action, you look out, it's going to be a long day.
• 23:33
  And they've been very good at the play action game. Mm hmm.
• 23:36
  Interesting, that's good stuff. Okay, so there's one flip over to the
• 23:38
  other side. Let's do West Virginia's rush offense against OU's rush defense. Story
• 23:45
  of the game numbers. Oklahoma leads the Big Twelve in stuffs that's the number
• 23:51
  of runs that are stopped at or behind the line of scrimmage. West Virginia's
• 23:56
  offense is the best in the Big Twelve in stuff rate. Teams have not
• 24:00
  been able to stuff them very often. That'll be se That'll be a good
• 24:04
  one. Oklahoma leads the Big Twelve in tackles for loss. Oklahoma is second
• 24:08
  in the Big Twelve in EPA per attempt. Their defense is going against teams
• 24:14
  running the football. A huge part of their defense overall on their run defense,
• 24:18
  in particular, as linebacker Danny Stutzman, he's a flat out, he's
• 24:22
  not hurt. He has a getting to that thank you. Fourth in the
• 24:25
  Big Twelve in stops, so that's a PFF stat that's defined as a play
• 24:29
  that's a failure for the offense. So he by himself is fourth. Sports
• 24:33
  Info Solutions has a stat that's called points saved. It's based off EPA,
• 24:40
  your expected points added. He leads the Big Twelve in that category. Let's
• 24:44
  talk about how valuable he is to that defense for he needs to be out
• 24:47
  there. He's second in the Big Twelve and tackles for loss. So he
• 24:48
  didn't play last week due to injury. Toby Roll, on the Oklahoma play
• 24:52
  by play voice, was on Sports Line with Us last night. He said
• 24:55
  he'd be surprised if Stutsman didn't try and play, but the question remained one
• 25:00
  hundred percent. What do you get out of him? So keep an eye
• 25:03
  on Stutsman when he's on the field, assuming he tries to play. That's
• 25:06
  a major factor. Now flip over to the other side of that matchup WVU.
• 25:10
  I mentioned they're the best in the league. The Mountaineers are in stuff
• 25:12
  rate offensively, not allowing it very often. West Virginia's third and the big
• 25:17
  twelve in EPA per attempt when running it. And here's an important part of
• 25:22
  that. They're one of only three teams in the league with a positive total
• 25:26
  expected points added on the season when running it. So you know they like
• 25:30
  to run it. You know they've been successful. They're one of three that
• 25:33
  has a positive EPA. That's pretty impressive in this league. Fair to say
• 25:37
  this is where the whole thing is going to be h Yeah, because it's
• 25:40
  against the whole key to West Virginia's offense. If they can run it,
• 25:44
  you've got big problems because now the passing game comes along with it. And
• 25:47
  so I think it's the same thing for Oklahoma. If they can run it,
• 25:49
  then they start play action. You then it's really hard to figure out
• 25:52
  what Gabriel is doing back there, so who can run the ball. I
• 25:55
  think that's that's important. I'm sorry, you got no I got one more,
• 25:59
  but go ahead, gonna go back to go Higgs. I wanna go
• 26:00
  back to your third down. Okay. You know I like to give you
• 26:03
  matchups for sure. I'd like to dive into a matchup for a brand finale.
• 26:07
  Yeah, well, then you have Beanie Bishop first down interceptions last week
• 26:11
  did and we were right there. Beanie had his hands on a first down
• 26:15
  interception and then Aubrey Burks almost got it on the rebound. We were that
• 26:18
  close, Kerchival. So here's one. Let's try this this week. Ready,
• 26:22
  let's try Cole Taylor versus the Oklahoma pass defense. Ye with an assist
• 26:27
  maybe from Stedman Fox, Preston Fox, What do you mean? What do
• 26:30
  you mean by I'll give you this? Teams are averaging twenty four point six
• 26:36
  yards per attempt on the seam route versus the Oklahoma defense. It's the third
• 26:41
  most in the league. That it's a small sample size, but I continue.
• 26:45
  West Virginia is third in the Big twelve in yards per attempt on their
• 26:51
  own seam routes offensively, so West Virginia likes it. Oklahoma's had trouble stopping
• 26:56
  it. There we go. West Virginia has the fifth most air yard on
• 27:00
  seam routes in the Big Twelve. They have the second best passer rating in
• 27:03
  the Big Twelve on the seam route and one Cole Taylor's run the third most
• 27:08
  seam routes in the Big Twelve. And I think he may remember he caught
• 27:12
  a touchdown pass on that route last week. He broke tacklers he did on
• 27:17
  his way in. Preston Fox also has a couple of catches down the seam,
• 27:19
  So keep an eye on that if you want to really niche down watch
• 27:23
  West Virginia hitting down the seam to a tailor a Preston Fox. But you've
• 27:27
  seen Trailing Ray down there, You've seen Carter down there. That might be
• 27:30
  an area where you can exploit, exploit. That would be good. I
• 27:33
  mean, he had a great touchdown catch last week. But also there was
• 27:36
  some misses last week, remember either whatever whatever reason, I think he was
• 27:38
  targeted like six times had so there was some CJ. Donaldson had two.
• 27:45
  Yeah, little just little just a little fluffy, little little beach balls out
• 27:51
  to the flat he got to You gotta make those plays and I'm not blaming
• 27:53
  him. I'm Garrett didn't put it in a really super comfortable position to catch
• 27:57
  it. They got to get those they gotta make they get those locked in
• 28:00
  there finally and get that ball in you. It makes a world of difference.
• 28:03
  Yeah, and you didn't need it last week, right, I mean
• 28:06
  those were okay, you could overcome those. This week's gonna be a different
• 28:08
  deal. I mean, this is and that's the thing, this is,
• 28:11
  these have been close games they've lost. This is a really good Oklahoma team.
• 28:14
  They've totally bounced back from where they were last year. And I know
• 28:18
  some of their fan bases on fire about certain areas. This is a really
• 28:21
  good team and you're facing the best quarterback you've played this year. So you're
• 28:23
  gonna have to go in and play. You're not going to be able to
• 28:26
  miss those opportunities. You get Cole Taylor down the seam, you've got to
• 28:30
  hit him. You get Pressing Fox down that seam, you've got to hit
• 28:32
  him and take advantage of those things that on paper at least you have the
• 28:34
  advantage with. Let me go back to your your third down, and maybe
• 28:40
  you have maybe you can micro down on the stats even more because Oklahoma,
• 28:42
  I think is like forty seven percent on third down. I mean they have
• 28:45
  an incredible third down percentage, which is something like twenty to twenty first in
• 28:48
  the country. So man, is that I'd like to know if it was
• 28:52
  like third and what, like their average was third and what because that makes
• 28:55
  a big difference. You know, third and four, third and three,
• 29:00
  third and eight. You know what is the most common third down yardage to
• 29:04
  get? You're talking about them on offense? Yes, yeah, I can,
• 29:07
  I can. I don't have that right in front of me, but
• 29:08
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  I was going to give you one third down stat here would this surprised me
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  a little bit on their pass plays on third down. Again, thanks to
• 29:44
  my friends over at Sports Info Solutions, they have Oklahoma's only this only seventh
• 29:48
  in the Big twelve on positive percentage on third down pass plays. So that's
• 29:53
  the percentage of pass plays that result in a positive EPA. So they've been
• 29:59
  good on third but they've passing the ball there isn't as high in overall plays
• 30:03
  as some of the other teams in the league. Yeah, but Dylan,
• 30:07
  I mean, this is going to be the best quarterback you play all year.
• 30:11
  And Dylan Gabriel, he's completing seventy one percent of his passes twenty touchdown
• 30:14
  passes. But something I don't know what it is. The last couple of
• 30:17
  games, I think Tony they have six turnovers the last three games. Corrective
• 30:21
  had some issues with their center. Yeah, and that's caused a lot of
• 30:25
  and the motive dustinoce penalties and some stuff just not quite right. Yeah,
• 30:29
  that's that's the thing though. Those that was West Virginia for two games and
• 30:33
  it didn't become what do we always say, you can't necessarily pick those trends
• 30:37
  up and move them forward. West Virginia cleaned all that up. I can't
• 30:40
  imagine those things continue for Oklahoma. I mean that the center with bad snaps,
• 30:44
  that's going to be something that they get figured out there. I would
• 30:45
  think they got a quarterback that's going to be their guy next year, because
• 30:49
  Dylan Gabriel's won and Donner after this year he's done. And his name is
• 30:55
  Jackson Arnold, true freshman Denton, Texas. You know anything about Denton,
• 30:59
  Texas hobby home of University of North Texas. A lot of football players outside
• 31:03
  of Dallas, a lot of players there. So he wasn't just the Gatorade
• 31:07
  player in the state of Texas last year. He was a Gatorade player in
• 31:11
  the nation. So he's their future. He has had limited playing time this
• 31:15
  season. In high school, he threw for seven thousand yards sixty seven touchdowns,
• 31:21
  ran it for fifteen hundred and eighty yards, scored thirty six touchdowns.
• 31:26
  And he just might get on the field on set. Oh really might just
• 31:32
  get on the field. Might give him a couple of those apprenticeship series where
• 31:36
  they put him out there. So far this year, he's thirteen of fifteen,
• 31:40
  one hundred and sixty nine yards. He's thrown the ball fifteen times,
• 31:42
  he's thrown two touchdowns and he's run it a dozen times for fifty four yards
• 31:48
  in a score. So the Oklahoma fans are kind of going, like,
• 31:52
  so we're not going to be in the CFP. He's going to be the
• 31:57
  guy'. We let him go around here a little bit. Pretty good,
• 32:04
  pretty good, So don't be surprised. Jackson Arnold number ten. Coachha brought
• 32:08
  up an interesting point last time sports on last time we were there, we
• 32:12
  referenced that game last time West Virginia was there. They remember the Oklahoma fans
• 32:15
  were calling for Caleb Williams in that game. They were out of their mind
• 32:17
  about Spencer Radler calling for they booze. They were calling for Caleb Williams did
• 32:22
  not get in that game against West Virginia, but then turned around played against
• 32:25
  Texas and he was off and running as their quarterbacks. Interesting there in a
• 32:29
  position now and going back a couple times there. You remember when Baker Mayfield
• 32:31
  got in trouble and they suspended him and they started Kyler Murray and he played
• 32:36
  two snaps and on his second one he ran to Tulsa, Yes, right
• 32:39
  out of the stadium. The guy the security was nice enough. They they
• 32:43
  put the big, huge door open. He ran through the goal post all
• 32:46
  the way to Tulsa, and West Virginia is still chasing him. That was
• 32:49
  one of those moments. As we were watching that game, I remember thinking
• 32:52
  this, He said, are you kidding me? You got a guy that's
• 32:53
  gonna win the Heisman? He's out and you bring that guy in he does
• 32:55
  that. It was very reminiscent of I've told this story before we were over
• 33:00
  at Maryland. I've still worked in the athletic department. And I had a
• 33:02
  friend of mine at Maryland that had us in a box and we were staying
• 33:07
  there watching the game, and it was second half. West Virginia's rolling.
• 33:09
  They'd pulled Slayton out of the game because he'd already run for four thousand yards
• 33:13
  in the game, and they put Noel Divine in. West Virginia did and
• 33:16
  he takes off down the field, and that was that one where he's running
• 33:19
  straight ahead and it looked like somebody hit the button on the video game and
• 33:22
  he just went last. He just went latterally by the defender and then took
• 33:24
  off. And I remember the guy looking at me and saying, are you
• 33:27
  freaking kidding me, that's your backup? I said. It was one of
• 33:30
  those about that. Sorry embarrassing here. Yeah, that's what I felt like.
• 33:32
  When Kyler Murray took off on that run, You're like, are you
• 33:35
  kidding me? That guy's the backup? Yeah, that was a bad I
• 33:37
  remember that too. That was I don't remember anything else about that game except
• 33:39
  oh, that's a bad sign for things to come. Well, think about
• 33:43
  that, dude. Think about their quarterbacks. Oh my gosh, Baker Mayfield,
• 33:47
  Jalen Hurts, Caleb Williams, this cat here. Yeah, I mean,
• 33:52
  are you a kidding man? Well, look, you're blue. You
• 33:54
  get five stars all the time. I mean, you're just gonna get quarterbacks.
• 33:58
  You're Oklahoma. Right. Yeah. Here's the other part of this I'm
• 34:02
  anxious to watch is again we think this West Virginia offenses has figured it out
• 34:06
  and it's rolling. You mentioned if Nestro returns to this lineup, You've got
• 34:08
  that offensive line intact and it adds you super sub. Nick Malone can come
• 34:14
  in as an on balance, right. It gives you some real depth there
• 34:15
  to run it. The OU defense is interesting here. The last four games
• 34:20
  they've had sixty four missed tackles, So they're missing a bunch of tackles too.
• 34:24
  In addition, can West Virginia. This probably isn't the team you want
• 34:28
  to see running downhill at you if you're struggling to make tackles. But I
• 34:31
  go back to and this was one game and one half their game against UCF.
• 34:36
  Guys, I watched that multiple times. That first half. That was
• 34:39
  as aggressive and fast of a defense as I've seen in a while. And
• 34:44
  I don't know if that was an aberration for the defense. They're clearly better
• 34:46
  than they've been. There were striking. You get Brent Mennerbles as your head
• 34:50
  coach, your defense is going to get better. It has that. It
• 34:52
  was unbelievable the pressure and the speed at which they were and the effort they
• 34:57
  were giving attacking UCF and that So if you get a really pod Oklahoma defense,
• 35:01
  which I can't imagine you won't see, West Virginia is gonna have to
• 35:06
  be ready because they're gonna come out and hit me right in the mouth.
• 35:07
  Yeah. So that's the thing. The the intangible to this game is this,
• 35:10
  They've brought a bunch of transfers in like everybody else, right, So
• 35:15
  like now that their goal of winning the league and going to the CFP is
• 35:19
  over. Like, how do they do? Do they do? They?
• 35:22
  Okay, we're good, let's let's just get this thing. Let's let's get
• 35:25
  back or does it become plus adding I don't know. Chances how are they
• 35:30
  play? Really hard? Are to the lights? I think? But you'll
• 35:35
  know early based upon how frenetic their defense plays. Like if West Virginia's starting
• 35:39
  to run at stuff and it's just explosively physical and guys are just getting mulled
• 35:45
  to the ground, you'll know they're there to play. But if you see
• 35:51
  West Virginia break a tackle or two and get a little something something, then
• 35:53
  maybe they're not totally locked in. That'll be an interesting part. West Virginia
• 35:57
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  over at Morgantown High We had a couple of minutes before and we went over
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  Great, Searon is going to go to Akron, And they had a bunch
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  going to Auburn, so she'll have two at Auburn. At Niagara Softball represented
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  Emily Peterson. Yeah, we had uh, we had there, Clarion.
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  We had Clarion swimming in West Virginia swimming. Yeah, yeah, in West
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  Virginia swimming. My buddy Kyle Lynscheid's daughter signed. So, yeah, it
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  Virginia thing, but they'll give you a big hey, be careful. So
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  I think maybe we give them that. When teams are leaving Morgantown, hey
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  man, good to see you be careful. What do you think, Well,
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  it depends on what I mean. Are you trying to legitimately give them
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  a well wish? Or do you want to look edge to? It depends
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  on who it is I mean, but no, I want an edge to
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  it. Didn't be careful, is not it? I mean, you gotta
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  have something a little edgier. Okay, I mean the whole equivalent of thanks
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  for having us, and I don't know. Yeah, we're gonna try to
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  find what that is. Hey, guys, Charles Wesley Godwin's episode was phenomenal.
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  Thanks for having them. I'm already excited for Friday, January the nineteenth,
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  Charles opens for Jackson isbel and The Turnpike Troubadours at the Paycom Center in
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  Oklahoma City. It'll be my first time seeing him in concert. It promises
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  to be a phenomenal week. And I tried to see him here in Tulsa
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  when he opened for Zach Bryan a couple months ago. Those tickets in the
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  nosebleed section would have cost me more than what I've paid to attend six WVU
• 42:13
  football games so far this year. So when you say Charles is hot,
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  right now, you are totally on point. Also, nothing would make me
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  happier than Yellen. Thanks for having us to those sec snobs in Norman this
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  week. The bragging rights I would have with my business partners for the rest
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  of time will be priceless. Because he also thinks this will be the last
• 42:31
  one. More thing Hoppy Hoppy said, West Virginia's got one hundred percent chance
• 42:36
  of winning when they rush for three thirty six. Well, as Lee Corso
• 42:39
  says, not so fast, my friend. Remember when Tevon was yeah,
• 42:43
  pretty good and West Virginia rushed for four point fifty eight and we still lost
• 42:46
  to as he writes, Oklahoma, or between that fifty to forty nine heartbreak,
• 42:52
  the excess of blocking in twenty eighteen, the bad snap in twenty one.
• 42:55
  I have a little PTSDA wins Saturday, and I'll trust the climb until
• 42:59
  I die. Signed by matt In Tulser. That was just a good point.
• 43:04
  Tavon almost had, didn't he have three thirty six by himself? That
• 43:07
  was right around that number. One of the great moments, even in West
• 43:09
  Virginia lost that game. With the great moments in mountaineer history, when you
• 43:13
  come out and Tavon's in the backfield, but they had no They still don't
• 43:15
  know tis. I had no idea. Yeah, that's true though, talk
• 43:21
  about that that one and then he's right that excessive blocking. I still haven't
• 43:24
  seen that. Called still haven't seen that. But you know what I have
• 43:30
  seen. I've seen multiple videos people put out there on social this is how
• 43:34
  you should block. This is that guy's driving people into the sideline and burying
• 43:37
  him horse ridiculous call. I told you why they did that. I told
• 43:40
  you why they did that. Well, he got that called against him because
• 43:45
  he was he was acting goofy earlier in the game, and they'd warned him
• 43:52
  about doing stuff. They had his number in their head, and then when
• 43:54
  they saw him did that said okay, here you go, got one for
• 43:57
  you. That's what it was. I absolutely that was why that happened.
• 44:00
  No question. Texter is the signal for excessive blocking. I probably just call
• 44:05
  them sportsman like or something. That Texter here in Morgantown for football and basketball
• 44:09
  games and joined some kerchieveil. There they are Robert and lou Anne Waterson.
• 44:15
  Do we have that picture Luke, husband and wife having a kerchaveil. They
• 44:21
  are there. They are wonderful isn't that nice? Wonderful people, kind of
• 44:25
  neat, Crispin, refreshing brew, Robert and lou Anne. Good to see
• 44:30
  them. Well done. It's a it's a hot logger that's actually a Pilsner
• 44:35
  Texter just got done listening to the BYU blowout cast. You all are silly
• 44:39
  with how much favorable bias you show towards Neil Brown. I'm not saying he's
• 44:45
  not turning things around. He might be. You all are already ready to
• 44:49
  open up the check book and talk extension. I hope you all realize that
• 44:53
  he's just now five hundred after his sixth win this season, and you all
• 44:58
  act like everything is all good. Now. This is how we got in
• 45:01
  trouble with his contract last time. Go on with your excuses why Neil needed
• 45:06
  more time than all the other coaches that have started when he did and succeed.
• 45:12
  Can I weigh in on that? Well, sure, you're one of
• 45:14
  the three guys. Is that he is. He is clearly on path to
• 45:22
  remain and continue as the head coach. Clearly, Brad, you want a
• 45:25
  couple more wins here just to solidify things. I mean, if you lose,
• 45:30
  if you would lose, which I don't think will happen if you somehow
• 45:32
  lose the next three games. I think again people would get it would get
• 45:37
  it would get a little bit hotter, certainly for Neil Brown. But he's
• 45:40
  certainly on course to be retained. Here's the question about an extension, because
• 45:45
  I think he has three years left and probably I don't know who his agent
• 45:50
  is. But let's say he finishes and they finished with seven or eight wins,
• 45:52
  and the the agent comes in and goes, now, we want an
• 45:55
  extension, because they always ask for extensions, a good recruiting, et cetera.
• 46:00
  C here's the comeback on that doesn't matter anymore. That matters less and
• 46:06
  less bread because you don't have as much of the high school recruiting as you
• 46:08
  do just going out and get players. So a coach doesn't necessarily need They
• 46:13
  may want to have four or five years, but you don't necessarily have to
• 46:15
  give four or five years anymore to a coach. And I would say,
• 46:21
  if he finishes this season, you know, seven to five or something,
• 46:23
  you're really right around five hundred. I don't know whether this athletic department is
• 46:29
  going to be ready to go, oh yeah, you have an extension.
• 46:30
  Don't worry about it. It's all good. I think it'd just be like,
• 46:32
  Okay, Great West Virginia's on the way back, Go get some more
• 46:36
  players, and let's see what happens a couple of things. Of all the
• 46:40
  times to complain about the coach, I probably wouldn't have done it after a
• 46:45
  thirty seven to seven wire to wire win. Would have maybe saved that text
• 46:49
  for something else. Also, Man, I don't know what to tell you,
• 46:52
  But I don't know if you're watching it all, if you want to
• 46:54
  complain about the job he's done this year, not only the overall results.
• 46:58
  The specific play calling is what I talked a lot about in that BYU episode.
• 47:01
  And if you don't see that, if you don't see that that's been
• 47:04
  elite, then I can't help you. Then you just simply don't know what
• 47:07
  you're looking at. He has done a fantastic job with that part of it.
• 47:09
  So I don't know what to tell you there other than I probably would
• 47:13
  have saved that text for after a loss on the extension buyout. Part of
• 47:16
  that is that's really all that matters. The extension doesn't matter. I mean,
• 47:21
  the years don't matter. It's only what buyout is given. If I'm
• 47:24
  Neil Brown, I want that buyout as large as possible. If I'm Rent,
• 47:29
  I've got to think that through. Where where is the buyout? And
• 47:31
  this is this is for any coach, this is Neil. This is when
• 47:35
  when a new coach comes in whenever, that is that the buyout's the one
• 47:38
  thing that matters. That's what gives the department the flexibility to make changes when
• 47:43
  they need to. So that's where the butting of heads will be. If
• 47:45
  I'm Neil, I'm not giving a dollar back, I'd want a bigger buyout.
• 47:49
  And if I'm Ren, I'm saying, well, I gotta have some
• 47:51
  flexibility. If I were Neil, I would also go in and if the
• 47:53
  buyout's not going to move and again how this is easy for me to say
• 47:58
  because I'm not internal doing it, trying to go around some rules. I
• 48:00
  would say that you need to go get some nil money, whether that's Rent
• 48:05
  and the MAC figure it out, whether that's the trust, figure it out.
• 48:07
  That's what I would ask for if I were Neil. Figuring the buyouts
• 48:10
  not going to get added to right, and figuring the years on the contract
• 48:15
  don't necessarily matter it's only them. I mean, give another year, but
• 48:19
  it doesn't meanything. I would say, you guys have to figure out how
• 48:21
  to make sure there's enough money in an ear that I can go get players.
• 48:23
  If you want this thing to keep winning moving forward, there's got to
• 48:28
  be some money in the payroll to build get players. So how do you
• 48:30
  do that? How does Neil bring that to the athletic department and how do
• 48:35
  they enact on that or act on that, because to me, that's the
• 48:38
  biggest part that can help the football program moving forward. Yeah, the best
• 48:42
  deal for everybody going forward, and nobody would be completely happy, is that
• 48:45
  Brown finishes. You know, with seven or eight wins. He's going to
• 48:50
  stay. West Virginia wants him to stay. You don't need to extend the
• 48:53
  contract anymore. Is okay, you got three years? Okaybody's fine there.
• 48:59
  Three years is a lifetime now with players, years don't matter. I mean,
• 49:02
  you can extend it to four or five. It's only the buyout that
• 49:05
  matters. It's only how you structure the buy right, You see what I'm
• 49:08
  saying. Yeah, you could put another year in there and leave it as
• 49:12
  a Okay, you had a good season. Here's another year on the contract.
• 49:14
  It's it's the buyout that matters, whether there's two, three, five
• 49:17
  or ten years. And the additional point would be, as you said,
• 49:22
  the nil money, what are you gonna do about the nil money to fill
• 49:24
  the coffers and you probably get some additional money for assistant coaches. I'd asked
• 49:29
  for that too, Yeah right, yeah. But the player pool, the
• 49:34
  player dollar pool, is the cruxete. It is what it is. It's
• 49:37
  hard to even talk about that because we have no idea. You have no
• 49:40
  idea. You have no idea how much people are getting paid, You have
• 49:44
  no idea how much money is coming in. You just you well, I
• 49:46
  mean they know they know, but don't. But I think the harder part
• 49:50
  is Neil can ask Ren for that, but it's not it's not under Wren's
• 49:53
  purview right now. That that's where it gets great. Who's Rent asking for
• 49:58
  that or who's Neil? Does he? I have to go to the country
• 50:00
  Roads Trust offices and ask them to put more. I mean, who's the
• 50:04
  negotiating with their you know what I mean? That's why this whole outside entity
• 50:07
  controlling your payroll is such a weird setup. It's because it'll work. Neil's
• 50:13
  talking to Ren about what the future is of the football program, but Rent
• 50:16
  technically can't go raise all the money. Now there's some of those lines are
• 50:20
  getting blurred across college athletics, I realize, and I think that's you know,
• 50:23
  my stance on that. I mean, your professional fundraisers are going to
• 50:28
  have to be the ones to go get the dollars for scores. It can't
• 50:30
  be others. It's got to be the people that do that day to day
• 50:34
  for a living and know how to do that. Before I go to the
• 50:37
  next text, as the original text on this thing was, the last line
• 50:42
  was go on with your excuses why Neil needed more time than the other coaches
• 50:46
  that have started when he did and succeed. So I find that comical that
• 50:53
  you call it excuses when I give you fact. And the fact is that
• 50:59
  every coach from Don Nilan through Rich Stu Dana in HEROD did seven or more.
• 51:07
  There were seven, eight and nine and fl future players on their rosters.
• 51:12
  Neil in Heroded one. I don't know how that's an excuse. That's
• 51:15
  a fact. And if you look at this roster right now, there is
• 51:20
  more than a half a dozen guys that will play in the National Football League.
• 51:22
  You got three on the offensive line, you got Sean Martin, that's
• 51:27
  four among others. Then there's babies in this program as well. So those
• 51:30
  aren't excuses. Those are facts. If you refuse to accept a fact,
• 51:35
  that's cool, but they're not excuses facts fact. Here's the other thing is
• 51:39
  that when when Dana Holgerson was here, he thought he was going to get
• 51:44
  fired, and there was not. Nobody was clamoring to keep Dana Holgerson.
• 51:50
  Okay, I don't think that. Gordon Gee or the ad we're going like,
• 51:53
  well, we got to find a way to keep Dana. Gotta guid
• 51:55
  They want to keep Neil Brown, Okay, Baker likes Neil Brown, wants
• 52:00
  to keep him. Gordon Gee likes Neil Brown, wants to keep them.
• 52:04
  They're looking for they're looking for ways to keep him, not reasons to fire
• 52:08
  him. Texter Hey, three guys, Andy Richardson and Charleston Harkening back to
• 52:15
  the UCF game, when the officials reviewed a call that had favored UCF,
• 52:20
  the loudspeaker began to play Let it Be by the Beatles, supporting the call
• 52:25
  as is for the home team. My friends and I loved it immediately.
• 52:29
  We thought we need to do this at dou WV home games. I certainly
• 52:31
  like let it be. It was pure genius. But what might West Virginia
• 52:35
  use when a play call is upheld? A few ideas? Don't think twice,
• 52:38
  it's all right by Bob Delon, by Bob Dylan, Or how about
• 52:43
  just the lyrics, don't go change in from Billy Joels, just the way
• 52:46
  you are? Or how about Rick Astley's lyrics never going to give that you
• 52:50
  up? Or you know the rules and so do I a full commitment of
• 52:53
  what I'm thinking of. Or we could do a song where the calls overturned.
• 52:58
  Maybe David Bowie's changes. Just some ideas to spice up the weight during
• 53:02
  these long reviews. That's those are pretty good ideas, right, Yeah,
• 53:07
  this next one gets real. Hey, guys, Brian from Williamstown here,
• 53:14
  just wanted to share a few general thoughts. Lots of ups and downs with
• 53:16
  the football and basketball programs lately, but I'm only trying to be positive moving
• 53:20
  forward. If life had taught me anything over the last week or so,
• 53:23
  it's to be grateful for the highs and lows of sport. If you don't
• 53:27
  remember. I work as a school psychologist. I work from home for a
• 53:30
  school district in southern Maine, a mere twenty minutes from Lewiston, where the
• 53:34
  devastating mass shooting and shelter in place just occurred. My schools were directly impacted,
• 53:38
  and so I was flown to Maine to spend the week with my district,
• 53:42
  helping them to try and recover. We had parents killed, staff members
• 53:46
  who live in Lewiston or have worked for Lewiston schools, and many many more
• 53:51
  with connections and impacts. I help students by answering their questions and fears,
• 53:54
  providing crisis support for those deeply hurt and scarred, and made the sad realization
• 54:00
  that this entire community and area of the state has been deeply gutted and disheartened.
• 54:06
  That being said, I'd be remiss to not mention their strength, courage,
• 54:08
  and resilience to get back up and keep moving forward despite the losses and
• 54:13
  deep impacts. It taught me to be happy with the blessings many of us
• 54:16
  have despite these trying times. So that being said, I came home Friday
• 54:21
  night, geted by my wife and daughter with hugs and tears it was great
• 54:23
  to be back home with my family, and I gladly watched our mountaineer's play
• 54:29
  win or lose with the realization that I am grateful to be here healthy with
• 54:31
  my family. Truly is a great day to be a mountaineer, wherever you
• 54:36
  may be. Like I said, getting real and I was just obviously horrific.
• 54:45
  Well, it's about counting your blessings and what do you have to be
• 54:46
  thankful for? And we get busy and forget to do that. Yeah,
• 54:51
  Texter Paul from Tampa. I wish I was text savvy enough to make this
• 54:54
  a video, but a meme will have to do. Let's go Mountaineers.
• 54:59
  So what does the Fox say? Touchdown? Texter, longtime listener, first
• 55:05
  time Texter, Charleston native, third generation Mountaineer. He played tennis, His
• 55:09
  dad played basketball freshman team who is also on the tennis team now begrudgingly a
• 55:13
  resident of New Jersey. When my dad passed recently, my three kids future
• 55:17
  mountaineers, ages sixteen, fifteen, and ten, and I took over the
• 55:21
  season tickets get to as many games as season as possible. They're driving to
• 55:23
  Morgantown five and a half hours long, but at least one hour of that
• 55:28
  is all of us faithfully listening to three guys this week on the way to
• 55:32
  the BYU game. We loved listening to your interview with Charles Wesley Godwin.
• 55:37
  As we're walking out of the stadium, Victoria's, my son spotted Charles and
• 55:39
  said, Dad, we have to get a picture because you gave that advice
• 55:45
  to a texter earlier on the show. He could not have been kinder there
• 55:47
  he is, there's Charles in the audience there, but the gang. He
• 55:52
  could not have been kinder to my kids and his wife. Samantha even offered
• 55:55
  to take the picture so my girlfriend could hop in as well. A couple
• 56:00
  of picks. Thanks for keeping us all entertained on those long drives. So
• 56:04
  there you go. So Samantha took the picture there in the lot. And
• 56:08
  then those are the kiddos as well. It's tremendous second. Got their picture
• 56:13
  made, got their picture made? Yeah, yeah, that text a three
• 56:16
  guys that film development quickly, Yeah, three guys, please allow me.
• 56:22
  What the heck is this? What are you doing? I'm just turning this
• 56:27
  stupid thing off. Hang on, I normally don't get these many calls.
• 56:30
  I'm just shutting it off. Three guys, allow me to express my pride
• 56:37
  in my son. First, he was selected to march with the Macy's Great
• 56:40
  American Marching Band for the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in NYC. They released the
• 56:45
  music last week. The tune they're going to be marching to is Sweet Caroline.
• 56:50
  Just imagine my pride when he said they better be ready for the West
• 56:52
  Virginia version because I will represent Terris filled my eyes as I imagine him teaching
• 56:57
  thousands along the parade are out the correct way to sing that song. Texter,
• 57:01
  Hey, longtime listener, first time Texter. I'm watching the game the
• 57:06
  other night, I told my daughter after Preston Fox's touchdown, there goes Sherman
• 57:09
  Fox again. She looked at me funny and thought I was crazy. I
• 57:13
  just smiled and didn't even try to explain. I also had a thought and
• 57:15
  was wondering if you could help me out with something in light of the new
• 57:19
  nicknaming technology that you have developed. I was trying to decide between Amos White
• 57:23
  or Jaheema zero Way. Let me know what you think is better. Signed
• 57:27
  by Paul G. From Columbus via Clarksburg. He mean Stedman Fox right,
• 57:31
  not Sherman. Yeah, instead, did you three guys? Thanks for doing
• 57:36
  your show. I'm a Morgantown native. I graduated from Morgantown High in eighty
• 57:40
  seven. Really appreciate how the show keeps me close to home. Since I've
• 57:44
  now lived in Atlanta longer than I've lived in Morgantown. I listened to five
• 57:46
  oh one Charles Wesley Godwin, struck by what a fantastic embastard he is for
• 57:52
  mhs WV and Morgantown in general. In less than two weeks, I'm taking
• 57:57
  my oldest to see Charles's show in Atlanta, and we are both beyond excited.
• 58:01
  We'll be trying to whip up the crowd with some Let's Go Mountaineers chance
• 58:05
  probably cause nightmares for the locals based on their last visit to the old Golden
• 58:09
  Blue. He's talking about the Sugar Bowler Q Country Roads. Thanks Rob.
• 58:13
  In the atlant of PS. Does the Man's basketball team have more or less
• 58:17
  wins than twice the number of football wins? I hope Eilern and the Boys
• 58:22
  get one under the belt signed by Matt originally from Charleston, Right, that
• 58:27
  might be a good number. Fourteen. Actually that wasn't Matt and Charleston.
• 58:31
  Matt Charleston's next anyway, I don't know what that number is going to be.
• 58:35
  Someone wanted to know when was the first time West Virginia started singing country
• 58:38
  roads after victory? So that wasn't Rich right, And it was in response
• 58:43
  to all the field storming and all the chaos that ensued around that to looking
• 58:47
  for a way to keep people in the stands and celebrate that way. So
• 58:51
  it fell. I don't remember the exact year, though, somewhere, somebody's
• 58:53
  to pull that out. That needs to be an historic date, maybe a
• 58:57
  holiday or something like that. Hey, three guys, well, hasn't it?
• 59:01
  It works some of the best traditions in sports. Yes, you think
• 59:05
  Clemson rush the field to beat Notre Dame and rush the field? Could they
• 59:07
  rush the field when they won? Yeah? Did they really? Yeah?
• 59:10
  That's weird. Yeah, I got two natties and yeah, seriously, why
• 59:15
  do they do that? That's weird? Yeah, Hey, three guys,
• 59:19
  I recently retired moved to beautiful Lake Gaston on the North Carolina Virginia border.
• 59:23
  I wanted to assure you that pontooning in the fall is indeed wonderful. As
• 59:29
  a loyal fan of the world champion Mountaineers and on behalf of so many other
• 59:31
  remote fans, I just wanted to say thanks. The show keeps us connected
• 59:36
  to the state and our favorite team. I'm originally from McDowell County, Big
• 59:38
  Creek High School. Think Bob Gresham, Oscar Patrick and coach father George Needi.
• 59:45
  I did not know George County. I never knew. Always thought he
• 59:49
  was a Wood County. Get out of the best. Lots of mountaineer faithful
• 59:52
  in southern West Virginia. Continue the efforting through the last three games are winnable.
• 59:57
  Oh you is not invincible. Think of nineteen eighty two. Hope to
• 1:00:00
  make a home game next year. I'll stop by the three guys food court.
• 1:00:02
  Signed by Joe from Valentines, Virginia, p One, Jason and Dallas
• 1:00:09
  Low. Gentlemen. Some thoughts on what phase should be used or what phrase
• 1:00:14
  should be used for the home version of thanks for having us. I think
• 1:00:16
  it depends on the scenario. If your favor to win the game, you
• 1:00:20
  should say hey, great, sing you. If we've beaten them in consecutive
• 1:00:22
  games, we should say hey, always a pleasure and if we're a home
• 1:00:25
  dog, we should say hey, text me when you get home. My
• 1:00:29
  preseason thoughts about being able to win eight games don't look so outlandish, now
• 1:00:32
  do they. Sometimes things just come together, like my fantasy golf team this
• 1:00:37
  past weekend, fifth place out of fourteen, one hundred and seventeen entries.
• 1:00:44
  Good cash. Thought I'd share for the pleasure of golf lovers out there.
• 1:00:46
  And not my biggest cash, not my smallest either. Love the show.
• 1:00:50
  So how much did he win? Won? Five grand? Good day?
• 1:00:52
  How much of a bet? So how much does he bet? I can't
• 1:00:58
  say it any less than five? Well done? Go ahead? Those thanks
• 1:01:05
  for having his shirts are catching catching fire. Here. You're in the store,
• 1:01:08
  right, Yeah, they're in the store. You can get one.
• 1:01:09
  Actually ran into a gentleman wearing his at the home game the other day.
• 1:01:15
  You have that picture the basketball game. Someone out in the wild there was.
• 1:01:19
  Look, got a quick picture postgame. Thanks for having us in gold
• 1:01:22
  So thank you. So you went to the basketball game, did you sure?
• 1:01:27
  I mean there you are. That's not photoshopp or anything. Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  I was actually right in the concourse tunnel there. Awesome, So thanks,
• 1:01:32
  let's just it. Look I got that shirt. Looks kirchull, it looks
• 1:01:36
  great. How about just a good luck with the rest of the season.
• 1:01:39
  Yeah. No, I mean because that's like you expected to win. You
• 1:01:43
  he doesn't have enough time in it. It'll develop, It'll come someone's gonna
• 1:01:47
  get it. It's gonna be like a yeah, thanks for having us.
• 1:01:51
  Was organic. We didn't. We didn't plan on that. It just developed.
• 1:01:53
  It'll come up. Textors said, Hey, I went to Mario's fish
• 1:01:57
  Bowl. I had one of the best cheese steaks I've ever had. Thanks
• 1:01:59
  for the suggestion. I mean, I'm glad I get He asked, and
• 1:02:02
  I said, yeah, go there. If you want to get the feel,
• 1:02:06
  I'll tell you what a good moist cheese steak. Yeah, hard to
• 1:02:08
  beating poo greeding. Gotta be moist. None better when they went are dry.
• 1:02:15
  That's yeah, little mail on the Texter. I've been thinking the past
• 1:02:20
  few weeks. I'm sorry, you're fine. I've been thinking of the past.
• 1:02:23
  Yeah, I've been thinking the past few weeks how journalism and media has
• 1:02:28
  changed over the years. Early nineties. I'm a student at WV. I
• 1:02:31
  couldn't wait to get my hands on the Sunday Dominion post after a game as
• 1:02:35
  early as possible to get the box score, stories, opinions. In fact,
• 1:02:37
  I remember a few nights picking up the Sunday edition at Derry mart Sorry
• 1:02:42
  Gomart, on my way back from an evening on High Street. Now with
• 1:02:45
  stats, scores, social media happenings simultaneously, I found myself looking forward to
• 1:02:50
  Sunday afternoons when your podcast drops. Thanks for making Sunday afternoons a little more
• 1:02:54
  enjoyable as we move toward episode one thousand, not Craig and Craigville. To
• 1:03:00
  his point, Man, the Sunday newspaper used to be cherished, like you
• 1:03:07
  would get into that thing, and it was. It was awesome. You
• 1:03:13
  think Mickey Faferi wrote a few stories in a Sunday Oh my gosh, oh
• 1:03:16
  my, he would just bang them out there. It's awesome. Texter has
• 1:03:22
  a new basketball coach for the WVU men and women's teams. Ever happened in
• 1:03:27
  the same season. Oh, that's a good no, right, that's a
• 1:03:31
  good question. If we had a research er, we could find that out,
• 1:03:36
  have the staff work on that. Yeah. Recently, you had a
• 1:03:40
  text from someone who shared their son got a glove from my neer player.
• 1:03:45
  I'm curious if it was Ben Cutter. You see, after the UCF game,
• 1:03:50
  Ben gave a glove to my boy and we both couldn't have been more
• 1:03:52
  excited. My son loved it so much you worth the whole night breakfast the
• 1:03:55
  next day. Ben seems like a great kid off the field as he is
• 1:04:00
  on it. Hopefully we can keep him around. I know he's created a
• 1:04:02
  fan for life at our house. Yeah, it's happy with it. Love.
• 1:04:04
  Oh that's great. Also. I know it's hard to believe, but
• 1:04:08
  I was out on the water recently imagine snapped this picture of Daniel Kred filming
• 1:04:14
  a new Bond movie. You're not going to believe this, but the crew
• 1:04:16
  was using a lou Wendell marine a pontoon. It was a miracle. I
• 1:04:19
  even managed to get the picture at all, with daylight only lasting three and
• 1:04:23
  a half hours. Now, can't believe Tony hasn't mentioned this yet. Truthfully,
• 1:04:27
  my picture is as authentic as some of those poems you've been getting lately.
• 1:04:30
  But fun. Nonetheless, Lastly, my son is two and oh attending
• 1:04:34
  Mountaineer games. Because of this, I'm currently receiving nil on behalf of my
• 1:04:40
  son in the form of two tickets to all future games, including Bowls to
• 1:04:43
  ensure victories. Please spread the word. You know, still waiting on a
• 1:04:45
  hoppy hanky. Si'm Philip and Tampa. You know Cutter is a guy.
• 1:04:49
  I mean, you really hurt losing Lathan and Cutter. It took a while
• 1:04:54
  to figure it out, but he's come on the last couple of games.
• 1:04:56
  I mean, there's a guy. Can he be? I'm amost thinking like
• 1:04:59
  a Grant WHI could make that kind of difference over the next several years.
• 1:05:02
  He's had two excellent games for he has a chance to be an extremely good
• 1:05:06
  player, really good. However, remember Grant Wiley. He can census all
• 1:05:13
  American, the whole thing. It's that's horrid. Okay, that's rarefied there.
• 1:05:15
  He could be a great player, being like a full all conference player.
• 1:05:18
  Okay, yeah, he could do that, all right, Texter,
• 1:05:23
  expect to Grant I mean yeah, I mean, I mean there was one.
• 1:05:28
  There was one Grant Wiley all time. There's one Grand Wild. I
• 1:05:30
  understand. Preston Fox and Drake Stoops both walk on similar type of clutch.
• 1:05:34
  Players should be good. Ps let's add some wishbone in this week for our
• 1:05:39
  backs for all time sake. This next text is pretty interesting. Charlie from
• 1:05:43
  Midlothian the guy that overloads his car with Kroger gas out. He uses the
• 1:05:47
  gas points right, yes, yeah, fills everybody up. Yeah, hasn't
• 1:05:51
  been busted yet, not yet. TC. After you established the over under
• 1:05:56
  of seven and a half, I thought I'd observe Brad on Sunday's podcast and
• 1:06:00
  track how many times he takes his glasses on and off during the spreads on
• 1:06:03
  Stats segment. Choosing the under would have been a winner. It was seven.
• 1:06:08
  However, later on he can be seen looking at his phone with his
• 1:06:11
  glasses on. At one nineteen fifty three, he set a new league record
• 1:06:15
  of nine complete sheds. Will he go for ten today? That's funny,
• 1:06:21
  Texter Leroy and Logan. As a former old Navy employee, I can't tell
• 1:06:28
  you how much it really upsets me that Lou Wendell only sells to marines.
• 1:06:31
  What's up with that? No, no, sir, No, sorry about
• 1:06:34
  that. Lee, You're confused there, it's Lou Wendell marine sales. They
• 1:06:39
  don't sell just to former marines. They sell to anybody and everybody. Marine
• 1:06:44
  is a nautical term. There they'll send, they'll sell to anybody. A
• 1:06:49
  little bit of confusion there. Yeah, even people that worked at Old Navy.
• 1:06:57
  This one kind of heater towards you. Oh oh oh okay, pie
• 1:07:01
  in the face, Brad, Tony, you delivered, sliced, serve the
• 1:07:04
  pie the whole time. Brad's ripping you a new one. He talked about
• 1:07:08
  his pie, never shared it with you. Go to the tape review it
• 1:07:11
  loved the show, Tony, Jeff from Sandyville. That was kind of sure.
• 1:07:15
  Review of the tape. You what happened me? Remember Sunday when I
• 1:07:17
  was cutting the pie and being nice to you guys and serving it, and
• 1:07:20
  he was just crushing me for like not bringing it. Oh, I don't
• 1:07:23
  know what his his deal was, Yeah, as usual. And Jeff,
• 1:07:26
  it's not your fault. You didn't have all the information, So I understand
• 1:07:28
  that where you might take Tony side, you didn't. You just don't know.
• 1:07:31
  Not the first time he's held something. The only reason that coconut cream
• 1:07:35
  pie made it in here is because I went on the offensive early. As
• 1:07:39
  soon as he tried to say I'm getting one at the stadium, you guys
• 1:07:42
  aren't getting it. I immediately attacked and said, all handle our own pie.
• 1:07:45
  All take care of Hoppy and I and get our own pie, because
• 1:07:48
  I'm sure Mike will take care of us and bring us our own. So
• 1:07:51
  thank you, Jeff. I understand you're right. I did not show it
• 1:07:55
  what Tony did not think about saving any for Tony. Would not have saved
• 1:07:58
  any of our pie for Tony because he tried to cut the two of us
• 1:08:00
  out, and Mike came through for us as he wouldn't, so he was
• 1:08:03
  shamed into holding the one for us. I was, yeah, if the
• 1:08:09
  guy brought the pie to the stadium, which he did, I was going
• 1:08:11
  to bring it in here Sunday morning. I got a refrigerator in our in
• 1:08:14
  our booth. I was going to bring it in. Do you do with
• 1:08:15
  those donuts that are delivered for all of us? When you get those,
• 1:08:17
  you bring those in for us? No? I passed them out to the
• 1:08:20
  team. Yeah, they don't make it a nuss. I walked down the
• 1:08:23
  plane. I give everybody on the team and get cooked. The same guy.
• 1:08:26
  It's Joe Mock. That's the guy that's that's gotta befriended coach Stevenson.
• 1:08:29
  I know who Joe is. I met Joe, talked to Joe. He
• 1:08:31
  text us all the time, wants to know what we think of the cookies
• 1:08:32
  and the donuts, and I always have tell him, I don't know.
• 1:08:35
  They never make it to us. So thank you, Jeff. But here's
• 1:08:40
  why I do that. I just handled it for us. Here's why I
• 1:08:43
  do that, Hoppy. The boxes that he brings them in are like this,
• 1:08:46
  So I literally go like, I'm not carrying this thing. I'm not
• 1:08:49
  schlepping this thing in the middle of the night all over the place. So
• 1:08:53
  I just pass them out to the kids. He slept a pie in the
• 1:08:56
  middle of the night, just so you think, Hey, speaking of things,
• 1:08:59
  what do you got? Well, this is interesting. This was dropped
• 1:09:00
  in my work mailbox over at Daniels. That's where this was dropped off.
• 1:09:08
  What do you got in there? You have a mail you have a body,
• 1:09:13
  Yeah, don't you have a mailbox? That stuff? This is the
• 1:09:20
  one with THEO chips potato chips sprinkled in there. But that's not the that's
• 1:09:26
  not the main thing. Here's the note. Got a handwritten note. Listener
• 1:09:29
  to the show MJ from Savannah. MJ from Savannah, Georgia. I was
• 1:09:32
  in and dropped this off. So thank you for the peanut butter cups.
• 1:09:35
  But here's here's the real thing again. I'm like Tony unopened hoppy, I've
• 1:09:40
  not opened it. Brought it in some Savannah Crunch, high level specialty popcorn.
• 1:09:45
  Oh that looks good. It's awesome. So thank you, MJ.
• 1:09:49
  We appreciate that very much. I think, right, yeah, open that
• 1:09:56
  up here in just a minute. That's really good. Thank you, MJ.
• 1:10:00
  I've been holding this for a long time. This came a long time.
• 1:10:02
  Oh my gosh, you talk about a long time ago. This came.
• 1:10:05
  This was April twenty eighth of this year, what attacks or what it's
• 1:10:12
  called twenty eighth. Yeah, but I've been holding it for basketball season.
• 1:10:15
  Oh okay, wow, gentlemen. Enclosed as a memento that hung in my
• 1:10:19
  father's house for over fifty years. My father, Charles V. Critchfield,
• 1:10:25
  was an avid WV fan and supporter of all Mountaineer athletics, and his den
• 1:10:30
  hung many framed pictures and newspaper clippings. Hiding among the large framed clippings about
• 1:10:34
  Jerry West and his teams was this small reminder of the national champion and IT
• 1:10:42
  team After my father passed in twenty nineteen, myself my sisters have tried to
• 1:10:46
  find a home for many of his momentos, and to date I've found no
• 1:10:49
  taker or suitable location for the enclosed. After visiting your studios during the live
• 1:10:57
  event, I thought the Hall of Fame room, whether it's wonderful wall mural
• 1:11:01
  of that team, might be a place where it would be welcomed. My
• 1:11:05
  father often talked about that team and the fact that it was a true national
• 1:11:09
  champion. I'm not sure where the original box scorer is located. Perhaps it
• 1:11:13
  became too frayed and discarded, but please accept this copy as any box score
• 1:11:17
  does. It tells a story, a story of foul shooting. West Virginia
• 1:11:20
  was eleven of fifteen Western Kentucky five or twelve. Here you go, Mountaineers
• 1:11:27
  won the world championship. So that's the actual that's the box. That's Oh,
• 1:11:30
  it's cool. He passed it around. I want to see that and
• 1:11:35
  c ill. We'll find a home for it, my man. Oh boy,
• 1:11:39
  you know, I you know where that should go because I think it
• 1:11:43
  might get I mean, there's so big downstairs and it is small. This
• 1:11:45
  is neat Is that we should give this to John. That's exactly what I
• 1:11:48
  saw it, Yep, to Dike Racy's coach was Dike Racy, and give
• 1:11:51
  it to his son John. That is outstanding. Yeah, I grew with
• 1:11:55
  you West Virginia. Wow, West Virginia was down eight and a half.
• 1:12:00
  Didn't let us stop him? Made shots. Hey, three guys, last
• 1:12:03
  time I wrote it was to back up Hoppy on the live to tape issue.
• 1:12:08
  Now, as an attorney, it's hard to resist the urge to negotiate
• 1:12:11
  between the two camps regarding Faustian bargains. Can I propose that Jerry Faust himself
• 1:12:15
  made a Faustian bargain to end up the head coach of Notre Dame. Oh
• 1:12:19
  yeah, his baffling lack of experience leads to a deal with the devil,
• 1:12:23
  which blows up in his face by his lack of success. The devil gets
• 1:12:27
  his due justin offered and hostilities between the academic and athletic camps of the podcast
• 1:12:32
  sound by Ryan s Now in Cincinnati instead of Morgantown. It would accept that.
• 1:12:38
  Yeah, that's a good compromise, Thank you. Yeah, three guys.
• 1:12:43
  Hoppies coaching hire Dan Stratford leads WV men to the Sun Belt Championship game
• 1:12:48
  on Sunday against Marshall with probable number one NCAA seed on the line, Doctor
• 1:12:54
  Jeff and Charleston congratulating you yo, coming up rematch rematch. I had Marshall
• 1:13:00
  coach A Grassy on my program today and made a big mistake. I kept
• 1:13:03
  calling it the Southern Conference instead of the Sunbelt Conference. Oh yeah, a
• 1:13:06
  world of difference. Screw that up. They used to be in the Southern.
• 1:13:11
  They don't look favorably upon that. Yeah, but coach Grassy was gracious
• 1:13:15
  about it. But there you go. Man. Yeah, here's another one.
• 1:13:17
  Hopefully this text makes Tony's deadline. Let's go out. Here's congrats to
• 1:13:23
  coach Stratford, who athletic director Hoppy hired, and the men's soccer team for
• 1:13:28
  advancing to play them boys from Huntington Sunday. Walk in, beat the herd,
• 1:13:31
  walk out, say thanks for having us, and after the victory,
• 1:13:34
  the team can stop by at the Elkview Gomart for a celebration. Fly Rod
• 1:13:39
  slim gym Recye Cup. Question for you, Brad, do you think Reces
• 1:13:44
  should come out with a Turkey shape for Thanksgiving? Thank you Matthew not Morgan
• 1:13:47
  from Morgantown. I think they're okay because you can transition nicely from the pumpkins
• 1:13:51
  of Halloween right into the Christmas trees that come out. So I think we're
• 1:13:56
  okay. It's to be tough with chocolate. I think to get a get
• 1:13:59
  a turkey definitive shape. Yeah, I mean, I'm not in the candy
• 1:14:02
  business. But we're gonna go to the Hersey's plant. Been there. I've
• 1:14:11
  always heard been there either, ID which is just a crime that I have
• 1:14:14
  is Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. By the way, gree samples,
• 1:14:18
  Oh yeah, sure, if you go to uh chocolate fountain, just stick
• 1:14:24
  my face right underneath it. Go Mart Tuesdays and Thursdays. Now they're open
• 1:14:28
  all the time, but if you go Tuesdays and Thursdays, you get triple
• 1:14:30
  rewards points at go Mart. Get that Gomart card, save on food,
• 1:14:35
  save on fuel gomart dot com. So this next one kind of complicated,
• 1:14:42
  but anyway, this is the point of all of this is this two thousand
• 1:14:45
  and five, six and seven peak years for the mountaineers. I've found some
• 1:14:48
  interesting things. During that time span five through seven, West Virginia did not
• 1:14:54
  have any total offensive top twenty performances history and no top twenty all time passing
• 1:15:02
  performances, and in that span they did have seven top twenty all time rushing
• 1:15:10
  performances. He says, that kind of surprises me, especially the zero pat
• 1:15:15
  White teams currently have a top thirty offensive performance in WU history, but this
• 1:15:19
  Mountaineer team does, and it's been close to sliding into the top twenty all
• 1:15:26
  time and rushing performances. This seems to prove the time of possession, running
• 1:15:30
  the ball defensively truly win and defense truly wins games. And Neil has been
• 1:15:34
  pretty effective against that against Oklahoma. Hey, so Brad, what is the
• 1:15:41
  I mean, West Virginia has been running like it's been running wild here for
• 1:15:45
  the last couple of games. As you would say, opponent adjusted, What
• 1:15:50
  does the matchup look like for you Saturday night? How well can West Virginia
• 1:15:55
  run against this Oklahoma? Yeah? That was in that. So that was
• 1:15:57
  the second part of that spreads on stats part of that. It's it's strength
• 1:16:00
  on strength. I mean they've been pretty good at times in stopping that.
• 1:16:02
  Now, what what Oklahoma defense comes forward? That one that gave tremendous effort
• 1:16:06
  against UCF the one that was tackling, or does the one that had injuries
• 1:16:11
  over the last couple of games that missed a bunch of tackles. It's that's
• 1:16:13
  all up for grabs. And I think that Danny Stutsman being back is critical
• 1:16:17
  because I think play that out. Not only is he their their best linebacker
• 1:16:20
  and one of the best in the in the country. If he's not out
• 1:16:24
  or limited and you have younger linebackers in that's where all that motion and stuff
• 1:16:29
  that thrown in there, that's where it really fouls up young linebackers where they're
• 1:16:32
  susceptible to that play action and RPOs and motion, where their eyes get caught.
• 1:16:38
  So I would think Stutsman will be less likely to fall for that because
• 1:16:41
  he's so experienced. So some of that matters as well. Can you get
• 1:16:44
  to two hundred, I think you need to. You need to. West
• 1:16:47
  Virginia has I mean they're number one in the league in time of possession.
• 1:16:50
  We used to say, oh it doesn't matter time of possession. Boy,
• 1:16:54
  has that changed? I mean time of possession really now counts for West Virginia.
• 1:16:57
  I think, no question, no question. So after they beat Texas
• 1:17:02
  on October seventh, thirty four to thirty in the Red River rivalry deal.
• 1:17:06
  They did come home to that UCF game and they just hung on thirty one
• 1:17:11
  to twenty nine, two point conversion away from Yeah, and since then,
• 1:17:15
  loss at Kansas thirty eight, thirty three, loss at Oklahoma State twenty seven
• 1:17:20
  to twenty four, they've only given up thirty twice. Right, those games
• 1:17:25
  right there, UCF and a win and Kansas and a loss. The only
• 1:17:28
  time the opponent scored more than thirty correct that, yes, yeah, because
• 1:17:33
  they were they were now they didn't they were shutting people. Well, no
• 1:17:40
  I'm not, no, never mind, I'm thinking of another team. And
• 1:17:43
  that's been West Virginia's deal here lately. That offense is really going and you're
• 1:17:46
  gonna have to score some points here. How about last week in that game
• 1:17:49
  against BYU, West Virginia takes the wins, the toss takes, the ball,
• 1:17:54
  goes down and scores. You saw why? Yeah? Right, let
• 1:17:58
  me just take the lead right away here again, Uh texter scope spreads bell
• 1:18:02
  hop. If we're often scarred by our past experiences, here's one positive for
• 1:18:09
  Oklahoma. The setup is eerily similar to Virginia Tech in twenty oh two top
• 1:18:14
  ten undefeated team loses to in a row in November before facing an improving Mountaineer
• 1:18:17
  team at home. Maybe lightning will strike twice Signed by not Charlie and Charleston
• 1:18:24
  Texter. Ever since I attended the Fiesta Bowl in eight I've rooted against Oklahoma,
• 1:18:30
  not the team, but their band. Learn a new song. Sheesh,
• 1:18:34
  I don't even know why they have a conductor or a drum major.
• 1:18:38
  We all know what stupid song you're going to play. Freshman band tryouts,
• 1:18:41
  Welcome to OU band practice. Here's the music you have to learn. Freshman
• 1:18:45
  looks at one sheet, flips it over and nothing is on the back.
• 1:18:47
  Just one song. Imagine failing band class there. How do you not learn
• 1:18:53
  that song? It's the only one we play anyway, go Mountain ears beat
• 1:18:56
  the Sooner so not a fan of Boomer Sooner apparently one negatively. Remember when
• 1:19:01
  wasn't it West Virginia was playing? Then when the schooner turned over it,
• 1:19:05
  Oh that was scary, how it was? It was lucky nobody was.
• 1:19:08
  Seriously, it was really a while. That was bad. John from Oklahoma
• 1:19:14
  City Scope spreads and Dean do we need to worry about any rules? If
• 1:19:17
  the Big Ten does nothing to Michigan for their second consecutive or for their second
• 1:19:21
  yes, second blatant rules violation dealt with this season, on top of Kansas
• 1:19:27
  saying nothing to see here, move on on their obviously offense offense. So
• 1:19:32
  here's what I think has changed. I read that earlier. This thing.
• 1:19:36
  You know what's changed? Do you know why this thing has just turned into
• 1:19:40
  an absolute crap fest? Because schools now presidents and universities they're not like operating
• 1:19:53
  like they used to where they threw up their hands and go like, whoa,
• 1:19:56
  we will fix this immediately. It's completely flipped. Now they go opposing
• 1:20:01
  the NCAA. Do you remember when schools would like go like whoa, whoa,
• 1:20:05
  what do we have? Okay, immediately we'll issue the punishment. This
• 1:20:09
  will never happen. Well, this will never happen again. We're on top
• 1:20:12
  of it now. It's like, let's lawyer up. That's what's changed.
• 1:20:15
  That's why it's a different world. What are you laughing at me for?
• 1:20:18
  I've been saying that for years on here. Yeah, well I don't stop
• 1:20:24
  on it. That is right, that's exactly what's changed. Yeah, that's
• 1:20:27
  the difference. You fall on your face. In the old days like oh
• 1:20:30
  my gosh, we're sorry, we're going to fix this, we'll take care
• 1:20:31
  of it. We're going to fire that coach, We're going to suspend this
• 1:20:33
  coach. And now it's just like everyone just yeah, I've been saying that
• 1:20:38
  for years on this show. That's exactly what has changed. And the one
• 1:20:43
  time you've seen a d stand up like at LSU, the ad gets run
• 1:20:45
  out of there. Right. That's that's the difference in how athletics has managed.
• 1:20:50
  The first line of compliance was always internal, and you were as as
• 1:20:55
  a longtime employee, you were afraid to cross that line or do something that
• 1:21:00
  may get you snagged and bread. I don't know that's the case. Not
• 1:21:02
  that many years ago, when you were an athletic administration, it was a
• 1:21:05
  big deal. If you got in trouble with UNCAA, A big deal,
• 1:21:10
  right, I mean, there's a national story of this is this then you're
• 1:21:12
  gonna have you can't go to a bowl game. This is gonna happen,
• 1:21:14
  somebody's gonna fight. Now it's like, uh, it didn't happen, and
• 1:21:16
  we're appealing and we'll have warriors. And by the way, it didn't happen.
• 1:21:21
  Yeah, yep, but wait a minute, we have this, we
• 1:21:25
  have you on tape. Yeah, it didn't happen. I didn't happen.
• 1:21:28
  Yeah, don't know anything about it. Yeah. Hey, guys, I'm
• 1:21:31
  glad you enjoyed Mike Kelly oubre comment earlier this week. I'm also the guy
• 1:21:36
  that offered you to bring a Thanksgiving pizza from Homegrown in last November, heading
• 1:21:41
  you up a little earlier this year. Do you know, guy? You
• 1:21:43
  guys know when you'll be doing your Cincinnati wrap up show. That would likely
• 1:21:46
  be a good time for me to bring you over a Thanksgiving pizza if you'd
• 1:21:49
  like, thank you say wave ten thirty. Well, yeah, will Well
• 1:21:53
  we never have turned out a pizza that we know of. I don't know
• 1:21:56
  if you're gonna be able to make one at ten thirty on a Sunday morning,
• 1:21:59
  but that's when we do last one. Hey, three guys. Hello,
• 1:22:03
  this is the dad of the bartender at the Apothecary who has mentioned to
• 1:22:09
  you that I'm a fan of the show. I've been listening from the start
• 1:22:12
  and would like to send tweets now posts back when you read them. Question,
• 1:22:17
  do you think Jalen Anderson gets on the field again this year. Hated
• 1:22:20
  for the kid, big reason for the Oklahoma state win last year. Signed
• 1:22:25
  by p One Dad from the Apothecary. I met his daughter. I was
• 1:22:29
  over there with my wife and had a here and was it one of you?
• 1:22:35
  They didn't have it on draft, so I got a halick. But
• 1:22:42
  anyway, but I met his daughter, a very nice young lady and terrific.
• 1:22:45
  I had a nice But I tell you, Brad, they've been They
• 1:22:50
  keep trying to give Anderson opportunities. It's not like he's not getting opportunities.
• 1:22:56
  Jaim Lit's taking some carries. You gotta find some carries for jam Light.
• 1:23:00
  Yeah, you got it. I mean, it's it's productivity. It's all
• 1:23:03
  it is. This is productivity. You produce, you get to play.
• 1:23:05
  You don't produce, you don't get to play. This Savannah crunch popcorn.
• 1:23:12
  So it's chocolate and pecans and the popcorn. And I'm thinking, like three
• 1:23:19
  guys needs to have its own popcorn. And we need to call it Mountaineer
• 1:23:24
  munch. This is called Savannah crunch, we call it Mountaineer munch. We
• 1:23:28
  get someone to make this for us in West Virginia. It'll be West Virginia
• 1:23:30
  Center. But that'd be a great item we could put in the holiday shopping
• 1:23:34
  cart that we're gonna have on episode eight Hunter dot Com. Right, did
• 1:23:38
  you open that yet? No? I haven't opened it yet. I mean
• 1:23:41
  I thought, but that would be nice. I'd like to do an Elite
• 1:23:45
  level popcorn for Christmas. You think we could do that? Sure? They
• 1:23:47
  even take care of that for us. Sure, Okay, what what about
• 1:23:54
  over there? Nothing? Just everything's just like dump it on Dave. They
• 1:24:00
  helps. He's a marketer. That's what he does. Market You do talk
• 1:24:02
  shows, he does marketing. You go to Dave and say, hey,
• 1:24:04
  Dave, we want to do Mountaineer munch for the Christmas shopping season. When
• 1:24:08
  we get it in our thing, he'd probably go like, I'll tell you
• 1:24:10
  what it'll be done. I have met few people in my life who makes
• 1:24:13
  things happen. Thank you. Yes, yeah, Elite and Elite have a
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  five star, five star guy. That's what he does. He gets stuff
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  like yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, goes and
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  all this end right right. Elite teamwork makes the dream work. All right.
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  We're back on Sunday after West Virginia and Oklahoma will also be after West
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  what do you want to do on this dude with the pizza for Thanksgi who
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  I don't know if we can do it. Like you said, Sunday at
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