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Ezekiel 38 and Revelations 13 Prophecy Update · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast today.
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Speaker 1: Mono Gonzalez sitting in here with Gary Steerman, and we're
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Speaker 1: all that out. Well, here we are Gary. It's not
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Speaker 1: a boring week, is it.
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Speaker 3: It is not. In fact, I think the headline and
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Speaker 3: it may be the headline for the next few months
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Speaker 3: Israel in the news. Four years. A lot of us
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Speaker 3: have been watching Israel because of what the Bible says
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Speaker 3: about Israel in the latter days and all the incredible
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Speaker 3: things that have befallen Israel over the years recently, but
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Speaker 3: now something brand new has happened, and there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of vitriol, a lot of hatred, a lot of violence
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Speaker 3: coinciding with an election year, a war between Russia and Ukraine,
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Speaker 3: and a Middle East that is coming apart at the seams,
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Speaker 3: and so Mondo, We're gonna have a lot to talk
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Speaker 3: about in the next year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
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Speaker 1: Everybody can watch the news, Gary, and we see protests
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Speaker 1: in Columbia and all these other you know, Ivy League
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Speaker 1: schools and different things, and what's coming out is very
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Speaker 1: obvious that a lot of these protests are driven by outsiders,
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Speaker 1: not necessarily students that are attending the schools. Of course,
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Speaker 1: you know the students get sucked, sucked into it. But
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Speaker 1: it is well known, truly that that George Soros is
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Speaker 1: behind a lot of these He's and and actually they
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Speaker 1: have numbers now of people are getting paid thousands of
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Speaker 1: dollars to organize these events and at these different places.
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Speaker 1: And we're seeing now Congress get involved, you know, the representatives,
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Speaker 1: House representatives are going to seek to hold these colleges
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Speaker 1: accountable because they're not even enforcing their own rules of conduct,
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Speaker 1: especially at Columbia University. I mean, you know, we've been
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Speaker 1: talking here Gary a lot about the rise of anti Semitism,
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Speaker 1: and yet it's not going away, is it.
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Speaker 3: It's not going away. And as we are speaking at
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Speaker 3: this moment, a brand new the situation has arisen in
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Speaker 3: which there is a push to bring the refugees from Gaza,
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Speaker 3: that is, the Islamic refugees from Gaza to the United
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Speaker 3: States and provide housing and income for them. Yeah, free meals,
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Speaker 3: free everything. And again this comes the same time that
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Speaker 3: there are numerous demonstrations against Israel. You talk about anti semitism,
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Speaker 3: it's there for everybody to see. And this is just
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Speaker 3: a little bit more salt in the wound bringing over
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Speaker 3: those people that are called refugees, and who knows how
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Speaker 3: many HAMAS members or factions will be in that group
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Speaker 3: of people coming to the United States. So we are
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Speaker 3: really looking at a complex situation.
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Speaker 1: It's really true, and you know, it's I find it
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Speaker 1: fascinating that oftentimes the average person doesn't really understand the
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Speaker 1: nature of things. And what I mean by that is, Look,
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Speaker 1: we're not racist, we're not anti Palestinian by any means,
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Speaker 1: but what we do recognize is that the Arab countries,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, lots of Arab countries. Why would
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Speaker 1: we be willing, foolishly, I think, to bring in you know,
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Speaker 1: Palestine refugees when not a single Arab country will that
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Speaker 1: alone should speak volumes. Why is it that no Arab
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Speaker 1: country is offering any willingness, including Egypt, which is right
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Speaker 1: next door to the you know, the Rafa crossing the
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Speaker 1: country of Jordan, you know, Syria, Lebanon, none of them
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Speaker 1: are willing to take any of these Palestinian people. Because
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Speaker 1: there's so much we know that Hamas is certainly entrenched
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Speaker 1: throughout the Palestinian people, and the Palestinian a lot of them,
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Speaker 1: not all of them we speak generally here, but they
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Speaker 1: voted for Hamas. They even in current polls they support Hamas.
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Speaker 1: They approve of what Hamas did to Israel. And so
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of troublemakers here and that's why the
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Speaker 1: Arab countries won't take them. But yet we want to bring,
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Speaker 1: so to speak, these troublemakers that the Arabs won't into
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Speaker 1: the United States.
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Speaker 2: That seems very foolish.
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Speaker 3: See, it's that old phrase that we all know, and
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Speaker 3: that is adding insult to injury. And when you insult somebody,
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Speaker 3: and this is an insult to Israel first of all,
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Speaker 3: pulling Israel back and saying wait a minute, Israel, you
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Speaker 3: can't do that. You can't expand this war or else
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Speaker 3: we will not support you. And on the other hand,
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Speaker 3: we're going to do favors for Hamas and for the
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Speaker 3: Palestinian refuge by giving them money and food and housing
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Speaker 3: and anything else they want. Really, that's insult because Hamas
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Speaker 3: still openly professes that Israel should die, Every last man, woman,
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Speaker 3: and child of Israel should die. That's right in their charter.
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Speaker 3: And so who and why are the questions that are
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Speaker 3: running through my mind? What's going on here?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think the other challenge that we have is.
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Speaker 1: You know, people think naively whether it goes back to
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Speaker 1: Clinton or Jimmy Carter even to that sense. You know,
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Speaker 1: there were some peace agreements with Egypt, no doubt, and
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Speaker 1: with Jordan in the seventies and nineties. But the idea
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Speaker 1: that one of these guys is going to have the
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Speaker 1: success to bring peace now blessed other peacemakers. We should try,
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Speaker 1: but you can't. You know, if I'm coming to you
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Speaker 1: Gary and we're going to have a peace agreement and
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Speaker 1: I say, okay, you know we can have peace, Gary,
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Speaker 1: you just have to change your belief that I need
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Speaker 1: to be dead, And you go, well, I'm sorry, Model,
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Speaker 1: I can't change that. Well, okay, if you can't change
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Speaker 1: the fact that you want me dead, and that's in
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Speaker 1: the Hamas Charter, then I'm actually the dumbest person in
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Speaker 1: the world to think that. Well, I'll just compromise and
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Speaker 1: I'll give up all of whatever you're asking. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you want me dead, that's number one. But if you
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Speaker 1: want ten other things, I say, well, okay, i'll tell
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Speaker 1: you what. I'll give you nine of them in the
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Speaker 1: hopes that one day you'll not want me dead or
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Speaker 1: to cease exists I'm the fool now. And that's what
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Speaker 1: blinkn and these other people are finding that even at
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Speaker 1: the current moment, they have come out and Blinkoln and
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Speaker 1: Biden are no friends of Israel, and that they'll backstab
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Speaker 1: them in a heartbeat, and they're already trying to do that.
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Speaker 1: But they've come out and said, well, these stubborn Hamas people,
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Speaker 1: We'll give them every deal under the sun, and they
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Speaker 1: keep rejecting it because they are unwilling to give up
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Speaker 1: the hostages, and they're unwilling to not commit violence and
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Speaker 1: murder and rape and.
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Speaker 2: All these things that we saw.
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Speaker 1: So this is I mean, biblically speaking, we know this
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Speaker 1: isn't going to go away right now.
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Speaker 3: When you say biblically speaking, I've had my Bible open
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Speaker 3: to Genesis chapter thirty two, and this is a fascinating chapter.
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Speaker 3: You're a preacher, and I'm sure you'd love to get
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Speaker 3: up and tell the story of Jacob and Esau and
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Speaker 3: how they had that famous fight and who knows what
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Speaker 3: they were fighting for. They didn't know. I mean, they
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Speaker 3: were fighting for territory.
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Speaker 1: They're fighting in the womb, weren't they fighting?
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Speaker 3: And the story of Jacob and Esau comes down to
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Speaker 3: that famous night when Jacob wandered off in what it
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Speaker 3: would become later the land of Israel by himself at night,
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Speaker 3: and he encountered the Angel of the Lord. And what
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Speaker 3: happened in that encounter a wrestling match in which Jacob
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Speaker 3: wrestled with the Angel and until dawn, and his hip
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Speaker 3: was famously disjointed. We could talk about that for quite
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Speaker 3: a while. And the offshoots of that injury walked with
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Speaker 3: a limp, but he still had attitude. And uh, the
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Speaker 3: Angel very famously changed Jacob's name to Israel. Now you've
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Speaker 3: studied Hebrew, the word Israel is very interesting how in
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Speaker 3: some cases it can be translated for whom God fights
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Speaker 3: that is a or who fights God is the other translation.
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Speaker 3: It takes you right back to that wrestling match between
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Speaker 3: Jacob and the Angel. But and this, I think is
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Speaker 3: where we need to rest. The Angel changed his name
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Speaker 3: and said, from now on, you're not going to be
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Speaker 3: Jacob anymore. You're going to be Israel. That's the beginning
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Speaker 3: of the nation of Israel. Israel, I think, is the
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Speaker 3: only nation in the entire world that was named by
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Speaker 3: the Angel of the Lord. And to me, that means something.
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Speaker 3: It means that that Israel has a very special destiny
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Speaker 3: and there are people, there are powers, there are entities
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Speaker 3: who do not want Israel to realize that destiny. And
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Speaker 3: I think that's sort of the beginning of everything we're
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Speaker 3: talking about.
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Speaker 1: It really is, and we're reminded later that, you know,
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Speaker 1: the history of Israel in their relationship with God was
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Speaker 1: has I would say it's it would be very fair
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Speaker 1: to say that it's characterized by rebellion. And you know,
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Speaker 1: there are God's people, there are God's covenant people, and
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Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why he holds him to
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Speaker 1: a higher level of accountability.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: Paul says that in Roman chapter one, the Gospel goes
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Speaker 1: to the Jew first and then the Greek, but also
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Speaker 1: the judgment and the wrath. In Roman chapter two goes
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Speaker 1: to the jew first and also the Greek, because to
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Speaker 1: whom much is given, much is required. And we see
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Speaker 1: later Moses, you know, calls them. God calls them stiff
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Speaker 1: necked people through Moses, and so there is this history
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Speaker 1: between Israel and the Lord.
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Speaker 2: But the Lord is the Lord loves.
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Speaker 1: Him, He's put his love on them, but that doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean he approves of everything they do, especially today when
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Speaker 1: we look at modern Israel. We stand with Israel in
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Speaker 1: the sense of the covenant promises that God made to them,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean we agree with everything they do
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Speaker 1: by any means, because God certainly doesn't.
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Speaker 3: That's true. And out of this ancient struggle is going
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Speaker 3: to come something very very great, indeed, a renewal of
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Speaker 3: the land of Israel, a rebuilding of the Holy Temple.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I think Israel's enemies are aware of
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Speaker 3: that fact, and they don't want it to come to pass,
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Speaker 3: and they simply don't want to see Israel rise to
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Speaker 3: the destiny that God has declared and decreed. And it
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Speaker 3: really comes down to something that simple. And yet it's
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Speaker 3: much more complicated than that, because Israel is imperfect. The
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Speaker 3: people of Israel are not perfect people. They are people
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Speaker 3: who have made numerous mistakes, and they are people who
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Speaker 3: in a way are still sort of searching for the leading,
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Speaker 3: the divine leading that they need. And that's what a drama,
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Speaker 3: what an amazing drama it really is. To me.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that I think is to Israel's
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Speaker 1: demise is if we go back to the Book of
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Speaker 1: Her Samuel. And you know, after a period of the judges,
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Speaker 1: one of the things that Israel clamored for is they
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Speaker 1: wanted a king. And why do they want a king? Well,
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Speaker 1: they said, we want to be like all the other
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Speaker 1: nations of the world. And so God was offended by that.
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Speaker 1: He said, well, you know, Samuel goes to God and
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Speaker 1: God says, you know, Samuel, they haven't rejected you. They've
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Speaker 1: rejected me as being their king, you know, but give
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Speaker 1: them a king. And so they ended up choosing, as
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Speaker 1: we know, Saul didn't work out well, and then God
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Speaker 1: chose a man after his own heart named David. But
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Speaker 1: this is what I see as a characteristic of the
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Speaker 1: nation of Israel. And certainly if you go back in
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Speaker 1: old testing history you see that. But then if you
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Speaker 1: look at the history of Israel over the last two
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Speaker 1: thousand years, they've been exiled until nineteen forty eight, and
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Speaker 1: there's something in their psyche about wanting the affirmation of
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Speaker 1: the world. They want to be one of the nations
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Speaker 1: of the world versus having that special relationship, that covenental
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Speaker 1: relationship with God. And so right now the temptation that
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Speaker 1: we see is what do they want? They want normalization. Well,
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Speaker 1: they got normalization with Egypt in nineteen seventy nine, they
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Speaker 1: got normalization from Jordan. They and again that's not necessarily
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Speaker 1: wrong to be at peace with your neighbors. But what's
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Speaker 1: happening right now is the Biden administration is in these
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Speaker 1: talks with Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia, as we know, is
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Speaker 1: the largest Sunni population. You know, it houses Mecca and
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Speaker 1: Medina and really the heart of where Islam was founded.
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Speaker 1: But if Saudi Arabia would become an issue normalization with Israel,
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Speaker 1: that would be a huge deal, just I guess, in
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Speaker 1: a good way, in a peaceful way. But also it
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Speaker 1: doesn't come without.
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Speaker 3: Strings, and those strings are highly political, and they are
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Speaker 3: connected to things like nuclear weapons research in Iran and
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Speaker 3: some very dangerous avenues that could easily be opened up.
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Speaker 3: And so I in a way, I feel I feel
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Speaker 3: very very sorry for the Saudis these days, wealthy beyond belief,
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Speaker 3: they have riches coming from every quadrant, and yet they're
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Speaker 3: sitting on the threshold of World War literally. And as
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Speaker 3: you go to the north, of course, you have Russia
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Speaker 3: and Ukraine, and as you come toward the Middle East
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Speaker 3: you pass through a number of countries, Turkey and others
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Speaker 3: that are all bent for war. They're all ready, they're
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Speaker 3: just waiting for the excuse to start some kind of
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Speaker 3: a war. And that is where we're sitting right now.
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Speaker 3: And actually I think Bible prophecy speaks of an era
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Speaker 3: such as that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that as we watch the developments, Israel
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Speaker 1: still surrounded. I was actually kind of surprised. It's certainly
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Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised in the way that with all of the
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Speaker 1: rockets that Iran had, you know, over three hundred drones
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Speaker 1: and rockets a couple of weeks ago, again amazing miracle
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Speaker 1: of collaboration to remove all these rockets in ninety nine
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Speaker 1: percent of them. But then also to see that Israel
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Speaker 1: responded in a very limited way in an attack near
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Speaker 1: Iran's nuclear facilities. They actually went in and they bombed
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Speaker 1: the Isfahan defense systems and they just bombed those and
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Speaker 1: then they came back and ultimately to say to give
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Speaker 1: a message to Iran, hey, look, we could have gone
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Speaker 1: another one hundred miles if we wanted and took taken
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Speaker 1: out an attack specifically your nuclear actors, but we took
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Speaker 1: out the defense systems, just to show you that we can.
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Speaker 2: Then, but in agreement when they did that, it was
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Speaker 2: an agreement with the United States. Okay, if we give
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Speaker 2: a limited strike.
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Speaker 1: Then the United States would approve their mission or their
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Speaker 1: operation into Rafa down in the southern part of the
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Speaker 1: Gaza Strip.
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Speaker 2: And yet so here we are.
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Speaker 1: You know, you have these back deal agreements, and so
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that it didn't expand.
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Speaker 2: Into a broader war with Iran. That's good.
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Speaker 1: But we also know that Israel has to finish this
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Speaker 1: job in Gaza, that they have to remove Hamas completely
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Speaker 1: one percent. Now a single one of them can be
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Speaker 1: allowed to remain, so to speak, because as we mentioned earlier,
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Speaker 1: Hamas says, look, if you live me alive, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to just kill you when you're not looking, or I'm
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Speaker 1: going to go take your children. I'm gonna put think
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Speaker 1: about it. I'm gonna go take your children. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: put them in ovens. I'm going to rape your your
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Speaker 1: women if you if you leave me alive, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to do this. And so you Israel has no choice
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Speaker 1: but to finish. And this is the this is the
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Speaker 1: sad nature of humanity that we live in because as Christians,
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Speaker 1: blessed are the peacemakers. It's it's it's our it's our
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Speaker 1: responsibility to to promote peace. But yet, and when you
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Speaker 1: when you're dealing with something like this, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: you pray about it, but I don't blame Israel for
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Speaker 1: defending itself by it.
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Speaker 3: You're bringing up now, or we're skirting around the edges
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Speaker 3: of that Middle East war that the prophecy the students
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Speaker 3: have been talking about for a long time. Ever since
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Speaker 3: nineteen forty eight, people have been saying, Okay, the Bible
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Speaker 3: talks about a latter day war in several books of
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Speaker 3: the Old Testament, in the New Testament, there are references
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Speaker 3: to that war, that Middle East war. And we think,
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Speaker 3: of course of Ezekiel thirty eight. We think of various
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Speaker 3: references in the Psalms and in the profits, and we're
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Speaker 3: all looking for that. So where do you think this
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Speaker 3: all plays out? And there are people out there predicting
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Speaker 3: right now, saying okay, here comes the war that the
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Speaker 3: prophets talked about.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I look at Ezekiel thirty eight, I still
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Speaker 1: see it as a little bit a little ways off.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying twenty years off, but at least I
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Speaker 1: would say six months to a year off or you know,
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Speaker 1: or more. But because there has to be a finalization
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Speaker 1: or a completion of these local operations. Again we know
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Speaker 1: very clearly, because hez Malah has not gone away that
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Speaker 1: once you know, and then what the next few months,
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Speaker 1: once they complete their operation and and and to make
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Speaker 1: Gaza safe again, that's going to take some time. They
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Speaker 1: have to turn their their mind to Lebanon.
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Speaker 2: Now. They just made a lizer just made a.
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Speaker 1: Comment yesterday that look Lebanon, and this is a warning
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Speaker 1: to all of the regional players that when they're done
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Speaker 1: in Rafa and Gaza and they are able to look around.
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Speaker 2: They said, we we will create a buffer zone in
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Speaker 2: in Lebanon.
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Speaker 1: So they'll go in however twenty thirty miles and they
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Speaker 1: will just create that. So that's not going to be
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Speaker 1: done without major investment of time and energy. So these
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Speaker 1: these local these local operations, they could be one to
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Speaker 1: two years themselves. And so I don't think that. I
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Speaker 1: think Iran is going to continue to work through its proxies.
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Speaker 1: This latest thing when sending the missiles was very unusual.
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Speaker 1: It's going to continue to work through the probus says
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Speaker 1: of Lebanon and Syria and even what's left of Hamas
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Speaker 1: and the Islamic Jihad in what we call or what
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Speaker 1: people call the West Bank and in the land of
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Speaker 1: sam Area.
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Speaker 2: So there's still a lot there.
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Speaker 1: And so if Israel turns and goes to finish what
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Speaker 1: it needs to do in Lebanon, Lebanon is far more
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Speaker 1: equipped than Hamas was, and that that that exchange is
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Speaker 1: going to be far more serious.
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Speaker 3: And Lebanon is also mentioned as the recipient of some
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Speaker 3: some pretty dark uh invasions in the latter days. We
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Speaker 3: know that some some really tough things are going to
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Speaker 3: be happening there. I think from the Christian perspective, we
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Speaker 3: need to bless Israel in every way possible. And we're
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Speaker 3: in a political year now in the United States. The
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Speaker 3: United States has always been Israel's advocate. Some believe we're
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Speaker 3: turning away, and I think that is a really big
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Speaker 3: prayer concern for Christians to make certain that we do
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Speaker 3: not abandon our friends in Israel, because if they've ever
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Speaker 3: needed they need it now absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if we think about it, just even in
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Speaker 1: non religious terms, Israel is a very sophisticated technologically advanced country.
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Speaker 1: It's the only democratic country in the Middle East. And
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Speaker 1: so when you truly democratic, and so when you think
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Speaker 1: about some of these things, it's amazing to me why
21:33
Speaker 1: we wouldn't support the state of Israel. It's not an
21:37
Speaker 1: apartheid state. People can say what they want, they don't
21:40
Speaker 1: understand the definition of apartheid because you can have Arabs
21:45
Speaker 1: who are Israeli citizens. I mean, that's not apartheid. But
21:48
Speaker 1: yet when you look at the double standard there, how
21:52
Speaker 1: many Jews are allowed to have any sort of rights
21:56
Speaker 1: or citizenship in Gaza or even in some of the
22:00
Speaker 1: again the land of Samaria.
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Speaker 2: Zero.
22:04
Speaker 1: How many Jews are allowed in Syria. I mean, so
22:07
Speaker 1: within the state of Israel, clearly many of these Arabs
22:11
Speaker 1: are part of the government. So that's the opposite of apartheid.
22:15
Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of ignorance out there. But
22:17
Speaker 1: it just it goes to show that this isn't going
22:19
Speaker 1: to end anytime soon.
22:21
Speaker 2: That there is wars, there's wars.
22:24
Speaker 1: In conflict that is going to happen until truly the
22:28
Speaker 1: Lord comes back.
22:30
Speaker 3: Indeed, and in fact, as students of Bible prophecy, we
22:33
Speaker 3: look ahead into the Book of Revelation, we see the
22:37
Speaker 3: twelve tribes, the anguish that's involved during the tribulation period,
22:42
Speaker 3: the anguish in bringing Israel to the point where all
22:46
Speaker 3: those prophetic promises can be made, the Temple rebuilt, Israel
22:50
Speaker 3: established as a nation, and the amazing landmarks, the place
22:56
Speaker 3: where Jacob wrestled with the angels, you know, the amount
22:59
Speaker 3: of olives. All of those places I think are emblematic.
23:04
Speaker 3: I think they are important, and they will become more
23:08
Speaker 3: and more important as time goes by, because they're all
23:10
Speaker 3: mentioned at the end of the Bible as places that
23:13
Speaker 3: will blossom and have come to have special meaning. It's
23:19
Speaker 3: just amazing the era in which we're living.
23:21
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Gary, you mentioned the Book of Revelation.
23:23
Speaker 1: I think that's a good segue into talking about our
23:28
Speaker 1: second topic today. And when we think about one of
23:31
Speaker 1: the most important chapters in the entire Book of Revelation
23:34
Speaker 1: is chapter thirteen and talking about the coming Antichrist, the
23:39
Speaker 1: coming best System, the false prophet, and we see these
23:43
Speaker 1: scriptures and in chapter thirteen of Revelation, you have a
23:47
Speaker 1: political situation, you have a religious situation, and you also
23:51
Speaker 1: have an economic situation. And it's so crystal clear for
23:54
Speaker 1: you know, it's been there for two thousand years. This
23:57
Speaker 1: idea of a mark of the beast, it's not just
24:00
Speaker 1: a mark of the beast. It specifically is referenced to
24:04
Speaker 1: buying and selling. So there's an economic connection here. And
24:08
Speaker 1: I want to read an article. I read parts of
24:10
Speaker 1: an article that just came out. Where as we know
24:14
Speaker 1: the World Economic Forum people, I mean, I just hope
24:19
Speaker 1: that our listeners do not underestimate the influence and the
24:22
Speaker 1: power of the World Economic Forum that have been around,
24:25
Speaker 1: and many of them, you know, just came to be
24:28
Speaker 1: aware of them in the last couple of years. But
24:32
Speaker 1: if you go to their website, they have they put
24:35
Speaker 1: out these white papers, I mean, very very detailed. I
24:39
Speaker 1: mean it is a this is the World Economic Forum
24:44
Speaker 1: is a is a conglomeration of people, but it's a
24:48
Speaker 1: group that is that when it says, when it speaks something,
24:53
Speaker 1: governments listen. And so they recently they made a comment
24:57
Speaker 1: in one of their white papers. The white paper is
25:01
Speaker 1: called modernizing Financial Markets with Wholesale Central Bank Digital Currency,
25:08
Speaker 1: and one of the things that they brag about there
25:11
Speaker 1: is that ninety eight percent of central banks are in
25:15
Speaker 1: the process of adopting digital currency. So this idea of
25:21
Speaker 1: going back to how lindsay we were talking about this
25:23
Speaker 1: earlier gery, that the whole dispensational or futuristic idea. Some
25:28
Speaker 1: people are even our brothers and sisters again whom we love,
25:31
Speaker 1: who have a different perspective. They consider us as being fools,
25:35
Speaker 1: naive fairy tales because we think of the book Revelation
25:38
Speaker 1: as being future. Yes, and talking about again going back
25:42
Speaker 1: to the seventies, thinking reading Revelation thirteen as hey, the
25:46
Speaker 1: only way that you really could have this is having
25:48
Speaker 1: a non barter system, a non physical system like cash.
25:53
Speaker 1: So that's why the phrase cashless society came to be,
25:58
Speaker 1: and all that was mocked, and yet.
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Speaker 2: Here we are.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, the keyword there is control. A
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Speaker 3: cashless society or a digital currency allows control at the
26:11
Speaker 3: highest levels. And that is what Revelation thirteen is all about.
26:16
Speaker 3: It's all about control, ultimately by one madman who thinks
26:20
Speaker 3: he's God, and he's called the Antichrist. I want you
26:24
Speaker 3: to comment on something. Revelation thirteen mentions a beast, mentions
26:30
Speaker 3: the leopard, the bear, It mentions the lion, and it
26:34
Speaker 3: mentions the dragon, and then it goes on to flesh out,
26:38
Speaker 3: if you will, the Antichrist system. And you've got those
26:41
Speaker 3: four beasts that come to us from the Old Testament
26:44
Speaker 3: into the New Testament. In other words, they represent the
26:47
Speaker 3: world powers, and they're coming together in Revelation chapter thirteen.
26:52
Speaker 3: They result in that really nasty guy I called the Antichrist.
26:57
Speaker 3: Comment on that, and where are can we see these
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Speaker 3: things beginning to happen?
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's interesting that as Americans we think
27:05
Speaker 1: that the world revolves around us, and yet in God's world,
27:10
Speaker 1: God cares about us, of course he does. But in
27:12
Speaker 1: God's world, or in the biblical world, it revolves around Israel.
27:15
Speaker 1: And so when you see in Daniel chapter two, as
27:19
Speaker 1: well as chapter seven, you see God giving to Nebu
27:24
Speaker 1: Canezer and specific and more importantly to Daniel the scope
27:28
Speaker 1: of all of human history from the time of Daniel
27:31
Speaker 1: six hundred BC all the way until the Second Coming.
27:35
Speaker 1: And you know, it's not given all the details, but
27:37
Speaker 1: it's saying the big scope is that you're going to
27:39
Speaker 1: have these gentile powers, and that there's going to come
27:43
Speaker 1: a day when the mountain the stone cut without hands
27:47
Speaker 1: in Daniel chapter two, will come down and destroy all
27:51
Speaker 1: these gentile kingdoms. And that stone then becomes a mountain
27:55
Speaker 1: and fills the whole earth. Well, that's the kingdom of God,
27:58
Speaker 1: and that's specifically the kingdom of Jesus. And so we're
28:01
Speaker 1: not done yet that the gentile worlds, the gentile kingdoms,
28:05
Speaker 1: are not done controlling this world and specifically having domination
28:12
Speaker 1: over the nation Israel. We see that right now with
28:14
Speaker 1: the world nations are the United Nations. But there's coming
28:18
Speaker 1: a day when Jesus will come and will put an
28:20
Speaker 1: end to gentile domination of Jerusalem and then the Holy
28:23
Speaker 1: City as well as the people of Israel. But that's
28:27
Speaker 1: what you see there in Daniel two and seven, which
28:29
Speaker 1: again reappears the final the final culmination of those empires
28:35
Speaker 1: appears in Revelation thirteen and.
28:37
Speaker 3: Revelation thirteen when when people talk about it, they don't
28:40
Speaker 3: talk about the beasts. They talk about one man, and
28:44
Speaker 3: they talk about him having super control over everything, the
28:49
Speaker 3: mark of the beast. People have speculated about what that is,
28:53
Speaker 3: and people have talked about, you know, having a mark
28:57
Speaker 3: on the hand of the forehead and so forth, and
28:59
Speaker 3: so for the longest time, for the longest time, it
29:02
Speaker 3: was a tattoo of course, or.
29:06
Speaker 1: The digital code. You know, it's the six sixty six,
29:12
Speaker 1: you know, barcodes. There's been a variety of speculation.
29:15
Speaker 3: Now we are at the point of very sophisticated electronics
29:22
Speaker 3: and AI, which has the ability to extend control globally.
29:27
Speaker 3: And that's in all the conversation these days, in other words,
29:32
Speaker 3: and it fits so perfectly with Revelation thirteen. Everything is
29:36
Speaker 3: happening today.
29:38
Speaker 2: It really does.
29:38
Speaker 1: And I mean that's really we think about artificial intelligence
29:42
Speaker 1: and we kind of have made it a boogeyman in
29:45
Speaker 1: some ways. But yet the power of artificial intelligence is
29:48
Speaker 1: the ability to manage all of this. You know, the
29:51
Speaker 1: typical programs that we have or would struggle with managing
29:56
Speaker 1: all the data, because that's what artificial intelligence does. It's
29:58
Speaker 1: got parameters, it's got data, it's got computing power, and
30:02
Speaker 1: so when you bring all this together, it's able to
30:06
Speaker 1: look at the terabytes and terabytes and even more of
30:10
Speaker 1: data and to manage it in such a way to
30:13
Speaker 1: bring out an end.
30:15
Speaker 2: So when you think about.
30:16
Speaker 1: Digital currency in the World Economic Forum talking about they
30:21
Speaker 1: have a little bit of glee. Hey, ninety eight percent
30:24
Speaker 1: of central banks are adopting digital currencies, and so they
30:28
Speaker 1: make a comment here, I'll just read. This is from
30:30
Speaker 1: a great article which came out recently. It says, as
30:34
Speaker 1: with the Bank of England their modernization program, the intention
30:37
Speaker 1: is to introduce a fully digitized security system that is
30:42
Speaker 1: future proofed for incremental adoption of a distributed ledger technology.
30:48
Speaker 1: The tokenization of assets involves creating digital tokens representing underlying
30:53
Speaker 1: assets like real estate, equity, digital art, intellectual property, and
30:57
Speaker 1: even cash. Tokenization is a key use case for the blockchain,
31:02
Speaker 1: with some estimates pointing towards four to five trillion and
31:05
Speaker 1: token ied securities by twenty thirty. Well, twenty thirty is
31:09
Speaker 1: kind of this magic, and I think that's overstated or
31:11
Speaker 1: understated that they have far quicker plans to bring these
31:16
Speaker 1: into place. And when people talk about tokenization, you think, well,
31:20
Speaker 1: what do you mean tokenization? Well, that means your house,
31:22
Speaker 1: you know, my house if we own it, let's say
31:24
Speaker 1: we own it outright, or you know my cup here,
31:28
Speaker 1: I own this.
31:28
Speaker 2: Well, there's going to be a token for this.
31:30
Speaker 1: Everything physical is going to be tokenized to where the
31:34
Speaker 1: ownership is put on this blockchain.
31:37
Speaker 3: Yes, And it occurs to me as you're speaking that
31:42
Speaker 3: a good way to usher in this system as quickly
31:45
Speaker 3: as possible is to crash the present system. And pardon me,
31:50
Speaker 3: but as I look at the world today, it looks
31:52
Speaker 3: like the present system is being crashed.
31:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it makes me wonder that you know, this
31:58
Speaker 1: story is very un reported because I guess I'll say
32:04
Speaker 1: this one Gary, that how much of our life as Christians?
32:09
Speaker 1: You know, we believe that we're going to be taken
32:11
Speaker 1: out in the rapture prior to the time of the
32:14
Speaker 1: seven year Tribulation, But that doesn't mean that we're promised
32:17
Speaker 1: life to be easy until then. In this world, you're
32:20
Speaker 1: gonna have tribulation, right John sixteen thirty three. So we're
32:22
Speaker 1: definitely not a scapist of all tribulation. But I wonder
32:26
Speaker 1: how much of this are we going to have to
32:28
Speaker 1: experience before the rapture happens. And so we're going to
32:32
Speaker 1: be in this system and have decisions to make and
32:34
Speaker 1: about castle it's going to be forced upon us. And
32:37
Speaker 1: then you know, you see programmable you know, programmable currency.
32:43
Speaker 1: It's already happening, and people say, what do you mean. Well,
32:45
Speaker 1: people who are on food stamps, they get their little
32:48
Speaker 1: card in the mail. It's filled with a certain amount
32:50
Speaker 1: of money on it, they go to the store, they
32:52
Speaker 1: buy their peanut butter.
32:53
Speaker 2: And then they want to go buy alcohol. Hey, look,
32:57
Speaker 2: you can't buy that.
32:59
Speaker 1: The money that programmed on that card, you are not
33:02
Speaker 1: allowed to buy this. So there's already programmable money in
33:05
Speaker 1: certain areas of society. And so that's a very easy
33:08
Speaker 1: segue into hey, Gary, I don't like where you're giving
33:12
Speaker 1: your money. You're giving it to this this hate organization,
33:16
Speaker 1: or we don't like like even we see with Mercola
33:18
Speaker 1: and others they have been debanked. That's the new and
33:21
Speaker 1: we come up with all these new words. Now you
33:24
Speaker 1: get debanked, we don't want your business. So then all
33:26
Speaker 1: of a sudden they close your bank accounts down because
33:30
Speaker 1: you're not towing the party line or the social credit
33:34
Speaker 1: score line.
33:36
Speaker 3: Well you know. Rab Lation thirteen again has the beasts,
33:41
Speaker 3: the four beasts that we mentioned. It has the beast
33:43
Speaker 3: out of the sea. It has then a final beast
33:48
Speaker 3: who has a number sixty six or six and everybody
33:52
Speaker 3: knows that number. I love that number. In Greek hexacosioi
33:56
Speaker 3: hexaconta hex it has three hecs uhh, And I think
34:01
Speaker 3: can that be a coincidence? I think not but that's
34:06
Speaker 3: where we're headed now. I feel just a little bit
34:08
Speaker 3: of something in my stomach here as we talk about this,
34:11
Speaker 3: because wait a minute, that's coming down the road and
34:14
Speaker 3: it could happen to me, and it looks close. And
34:19
Speaker 3: from what you're saying, the plans are already being made.
34:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, the plans are in motion.
34:24
Speaker 1: And I think we as we recognize that, it's just
34:29
Speaker 1: a reminder that again I try to my heart is
34:32
Speaker 1: for especially brothers and sisters in Christ who again think
34:37
Speaker 1: whether they're partial preadtist or full preadtist. They look at
34:40
Speaker 1: the Bible and they go Revelation thirteen. Gary, come on,
34:43
Speaker 1: haven't you ever read that that was fulfilled? That was
34:45
Speaker 1: fulfilled in the first century? And so for them, they
34:48
Speaker 1: are sitting ducks, so to speak, not looking at the
34:52
Speaker 1: book Revelation as being future. And we know doctor Mark
34:56
Speaker 1: Hitchcock as an example, his PhD dissertation Dallas Theological Seminary
35:01
Speaker 1: was on the dating of the book Revelation, and so
35:03
Speaker 1: you can get it online, you can find it. And
35:05
Speaker 1: he had a debate, you know, probably out of ten
35:08
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago with Hank Hannigraph and it was I
35:12
Speaker 1: felt bad for Hank because Hank was completely outclassed in
35:15
Speaker 1: the sense it's pretty unwise to go a debate a
35:17
Speaker 1: guy that did a dissertation on it. But the fact
35:19
Speaker 1: of the matter is the book Revelation was written in
35:23
Speaker 1: ninety five eighty roughly, not prior to the eight seventy
35:28
Speaker 1: the destruction, and so people saying that everything happened at
35:30
Speaker 1: the destruction of the Temple, the Second Temple, it's just
35:35
Speaker 1: it's not reality. So what that tells is is when
35:37
Speaker 1: John wrote it, he was speaking of a future event.
35:40
Speaker 1: And so in that way, as we look at these
35:43
Speaker 1: things are future, we can look around. I mean, I
35:46
Speaker 1: think about unfortunately, somebody that doesn't believe in the future event,
35:51
Speaker 1: how do they how do they interpret the world going
35:57
Speaker 1: on its way to cashless society?
35:59
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the.
36:00
Speaker 1: Dispensational futures have talked about that, and we're being vindicated,
36:03
Speaker 1: not that we're out for vindication, but that framework is true.
36:07
Speaker 2: I don't know what they do with this.
36:08
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. And you know I'm looking at it
36:10
Speaker 3: as you're talking. I'm just glancing here at Revelation thirteen,
36:14
Speaker 3: and I'm talking, I'm looking at someone receiving a mark
36:18
Speaker 3: in their right hand or their forehead. And you know,
36:22
Speaker 3: we used to say, well, mane tattoo, oh maybe something
36:25
Speaker 3: injected there, blah blah blah. But now we have the
36:29
Speaker 3: technology that into your right hand or your forehead, electronic
36:34
Speaker 3: devices can be inserted. That they're tiny, and yet they
36:39
Speaker 3: are powerful, and they carry tons of information about you,
36:45
Speaker 3: and they can disqualify you from the main system if
36:48
Speaker 3: you do anything wrong.
36:50
Speaker 2: I love that.
36:51
Speaker 1: You know, going back thirty years, you know, people talking
36:55
Speaker 1: about this and it was like all those crazy Christians,
36:57
Speaker 1: bunch of conspiracy people. But yet it seems like all
37:00
Speaker 1: the conspiracies have come true. You go to Sweden and
37:03
Speaker 1: they put it in their their forehand. It's a little
37:05
Speaker 1: size of the grain rice. And you go online you
37:08
Speaker 1: can see this. The guy has his information, he's got
37:10
Speaker 1: his driver license, he's got his ID, he's got his
37:12
Speaker 1: medical stuff, he's got his bank account. He goes up
37:14
Speaker 1: and for his house, he just scans his hand. He
37:17
Speaker 1: goes to the store, he scans his hand, payment systems.
37:21
Speaker 1: All of it's I mean, Sweden is actually very far
37:23
Speaker 1: advanced in a cashlow society. Many of them are really
37:27
Speaker 1: already almost there completely. And so all these conspiracy series
37:31
Speaker 1: here they are, I mean, and yet so what we're
37:34
Speaker 1: saying is that when we look at these and we
37:37
Speaker 1: looked even more to the future, we know where it's going.
37:41
Speaker 1: And it just reminds us that, you know, we're not
37:44
Speaker 1: a thousand years away from Jesus coming back.
37:46
Speaker 2: I don't even think we're a century away from Jesus
37:48
Speaker 2: coming back.
37:49
Speaker 1: We're recognizing that, Hey, there's it's getting more and more intense.
37:54
Speaker 2: You have these these groups of.
37:56
Speaker 1: People like again like the World Economic Forum and this
37:59
Speaker 1: this this is a good segue, Gary, because one of
38:01
Speaker 1: the other thing that's coming up is here actually this month,
38:06
Speaker 1: in the month of May, that the World Health Organization
38:09
Speaker 1: again another group, they're trying their best to pass this
38:13
Speaker 1: pandemic treaty and they're trying to get it signed on
38:16
Speaker 1: by different nations of the world, which absolutely would usurp
38:20
Speaker 1: us sovereignty. And I find it fascinating that they want
38:23
Speaker 1: complete control of nations and how nations would ever interact
38:28
Speaker 1: or handle a coming pandemic that they are guaranteeing is
38:33
Speaker 1: going to be twenty times worse.
38:34
Speaker 3: Well, how do they know that that?
38:37
Speaker 2: How do they know that?
38:38
Speaker 1: And so they're say no, no, no, you know all
38:40
Speaker 1: these conspiracy, this dis information. It's not about control, they
38:44
Speaker 1: say that, but they're lying right to your face because
38:46
Speaker 1: if you read the documents, it is about control. It's
38:49
Speaker 1: about dominating governments, how they would handle information, how they
38:54
Speaker 1: would handle the implementation of medical procedures as we know
38:58
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty.
38:59
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll leave it to medicine of all sorts, hospitalization, pharmaceuticals, everything.
39:04
Speaker 3: By the way, the pharmaceuticals, the international pharmaceuticals industry is
39:08
Speaker 3: going it to this coded system.
39:12
Speaker 2: Yep.
39:13
Speaker 1: It's it's this is coming up and again on another
39:17
Speaker 1: layer of control, which is what revelation thirteen it caused
39:22
Speaker 1: the beast causes all small and great, rich and poor,
39:25
Speaker 1: that they receive something a mark that will they will
39:29
Speaker 1: not be allowed to buy or self.
39:30
Speaker 3: Well.
39:31
Speaker 1: One of the ways that you can do that is
39:33
Speaker 1: through identification. And it's interesting also what you see there
39:38
Speaker 1: is is for them to be led by fear because
39:43
Speaker 1: if millions and millions are going to die, then it's
39:46
Speaker 1: it's about control and isolation. Therefore, Gary, if you you know,
39:51
Speaker 1: this is where they talk outsides of their both mouths.
39:53
Speaker 1: It's your body, it's your choice, right, That's the typical
39:56
Speaker 1: mantra for abortion. But yet in this regard, if you
39:58
Speaker 1: want to say it's my body, my choice, I don't
40:00
Speaker 1: want to take that medical procedure, but they're going to
40:03
Speaker 1: force you to do it or else you'll be ostracized
40:05
Speaker 1: and you won't be able to buy or sell. We
40:07
Speaker 1: saw this even with in twenty twenty where many stores
40:12
Speaker 1: if you didn't have proof of your medical procedure, then
40:15
Speaker 1: you were not allowed to go into.
40:16
Speaker 2: The store, and you weren't able to buy food.
40:18
Speaker 1: And I even saw many people said, well, if you're
40:21
Speaker 1: too stupid not to get the medical procedure, then you
40:24
Speaker 1: need to die and be scraped off the earth. So
40:26
Speaker 1: this is fascinating to me that again another conspiracy theory
40:31
Speaker 1: is coming exactly true.
40:33
Speaker 2: And so there's a lot of resistance.
40:34
Speaker 1: Right now against the WHO for this pandemic treaty.
40:39
Speaker 3: So you have medical care, pharmaceuticals, buying and selling and
40:44
Speaker 3: qualifying for various functional needs in society. You've got four
40:53
Speaker 3: kind of areas of control. The Bible for two thousand
40:59
Speaker 3: years has been talking about this, and everybody's been guessing
41:02
Speaker 3: about what it is. Now we don't have to guess anymore.
41:06
Speaker 3: I think we're very very close, and of course as
41:09
Speaker 3: prophecy teachers, people who are inspiring believers out there with
41:15
Speaker 3: the nearness, the soonness of Christ's return. Of course, we
41:18
Speaker 3: don't know the date, but it's going to be soon.
41:22
Speaker 3: And what you're saying, I think emphasizes that.
41:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're as we look around and again all these
41:29
Speaker 1: things that I know you've been discussing, you know, for
41:31
Speaker 1: at least fifty years, and that's that's older than me.
41:36
Speaker 2: Gary.
41:37
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I can't believe it goes that
41:39
Speaker 3: far back, but it does.
41:41
Speaker 2: It does.
41:42
Speaker 1: And these are things that again have been written down
41:46
Speaker 1: for a long time with a certain level of predictive
41:50
Speaker 1: power because the Bible predicts it, so we know it's true.
41:53
Speaker 1: But how it all comes to be, you know, we
41:54
Speaker 1: were watching, we're watching carefully. These go well, we no
41:57
Speaker 1: one knows exactly how the scripture is going to be
41:59
Speaker 1: fulfilled will be fulfilled. But as we look again at
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Speaker 1: these organizations, the wf WHO, a lot of these other groups,
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Speaker 1: they are one hundred percent determined to bring about this.
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Speaker 1: The infrastructure of what we know by Revelation thirteen is
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Speaker 1: the infrastructure of the beast system. And so this is
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Speaker 1: where we come to say, hey, look, we're not saying
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Speaker 1: Jesus is coming back next week. The rapture could happen today.
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Speaker 1: But what it tells us is that the scripture's true
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Speaker 1: and that it is hending. We are at the end
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Speaker 1: of the age. We're heading towards the endgame right now.
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Speaker 1: And of course, as we know the WHO and others,
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Speaker 1: they have this twenty thirty deadline. Now it doesn't really
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Speaker 1: matter what they say. God's deadline is what matters. But
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Speaker 1: it still shows that they are working towards it seriously
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Speaker 1: with everything they have.
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Speaker 2: They're all in twenty thirty.
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Speaker 3: Hey, we're looking now at five years plus twenty thirty.
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Speaker 3: Let's see to do that, you have to, I think,
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Speaker 3: make some revolutionary changes in global society so that we
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Speaker 3: should be able to see those changes taking place now.
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Speaker 3: And I remember the global emphasis on wearing medical masks.
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Speaker 3: We all remember that, and everybody said, well, it's a
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Speaker 3: really inconvenience, but we should do it. We're just gonna
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Speaker 3: knuckle under and do it. And then later on we
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Speaker 3: look back and we saw that as a ploy and
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Speaker 3: in a way, a way of controlling what society was doing.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, the application of the mask was
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Speaker 3: just a marvelous illustration of how society can be controlled.
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Speaker 3: We all look back at that we think lesson learned,
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Speaker 3: except I don't think the lesson was to learn.
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Speaker 2: And I think as well that.
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Speaker 1: The challenge that we see is the comfortability of people
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Speaker 1: with mandates. And that's really what I was shocked. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we're not living in seventeen seventy six America. And what
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Speaker 1: I mean by that is the Americans I mean in
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Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six coming out of the tyranny of the.
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Speaker 2: King of England.
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Speaker 1: I mean Gary Patrick, Henry right, give me liberty or
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Speaker 1: give me what death? Today that phrase, give me liberty
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Speaker 1: or give me death. Oh no, they're like, take away
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Speaker 1: all my liberties if you can keep me alive. It's
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Speaker 1: not the same culture. People do not value liberty over death.
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Speaker 1: Where that's what created America. That's what created freedoms and liberties.
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Speaker 1: And we know that people do not value liberty over
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Speaker 1: death today they do not.
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Speaker 3: And you know, the value of life is something that
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Speaker 3: Americans have been known for life liberty and pursuit of happiness,
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Speaker 3: and the value of life stems directly from a Judeo
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Speaker 3: Christian background. Worshiping God produces a love of life and
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Speaker 3: an altruism and a benevolent society. And I think all
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Speaker 3: of this that we're looking at and that we've been
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Speaker 3: talking about stems from a decline in the spiritual life
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Speaker 3: of America. And it grieves me to say that, but
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Speaker 3: it's happening.
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Speaker 1: Comment on that, Yeah, I think that what I imagine in
45:48
Speaker 1: if we think about America's history, you know, from seventeen
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Speaker 1: seventy six on, you know, we're coming up to you know,
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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty years here.
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Speaker 2: You wonder, is it the night teenth century?
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Speaker 1: You know that it was at the eighteen hundreds that
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Speaker 1: America was America's greatness, was at the nineteen hundreds will
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Speaker 1: be considered America's greatness because there's no doubt Gary, over
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Speaker 1: the last twenty four years, watching the moral, spiritual, and
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Speaker 1: you know, all the other adjectives you can put on there,
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Speaker 1: the decline of America from the year two thousand on,
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Speaker 1: at least it could be even more than that. We
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Speaker 1: are declining fast, super fast, and we're losing our ability
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Speaker 1: of common sense in our country. Just when you look
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Speaker 1: at the gender confusion that's going on that's been amazing.
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Speaker 1: So the values that we've enjoyed, the biblical values, the
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Speaker 1: traditional biblical conservative values that we've enjoyed, are getting thrown
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Speaker 1: out the window.
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Speaker 2: People don't go to church anymore.
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Speaker 1: God's not welcomed, you know, from the sixties on in schools,
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Speaker 1: and we see now the fruit of it on our society.
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Speaker 3: We do in the last days, perilous times shall come.
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Speaker 3: I think we're there, and I think it makes us
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Speaker 3: ever more aware of the veracity of God's word, the Bible.
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Speaker 3: What what an unbelievable asset we have right here in
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Speaker 3: our hands, the Word.
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Speaker 1: Of God, you know, it just the I want to
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Speaker 1: end on this one last story that we have because
47:19
Speaker 1: all of us, you know, when you get your you
47:21
Speaker 1: get your your backgrounds to the Bible, right, you know,
47:25
Speaker 1: you might have a book where it shows you what
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Speaker 1: it was like living in the first century or maybe
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Speaker 1: in the time of Israel, and you go there and
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Speaker 1: you open it up and you see the temple, and
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Speaker 1: you see Jesus at the temple, and you see them
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Speaker 1: blowing trumpets at the temple, and you see them in
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Speaker 1: all their robes, all the priestly garments. Well, you take
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Speaker 1: all that from ancient history. And yet this last week,
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Speaker 1: if you go to the country of Israel and you're there,
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Speaker 1: you would look up and you'd go, where am I?
47:54
Speaker 1: You have these levitical priests from the tribe of Levi,
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Speaker 1: dressed up in their robes, blowing silver trumpets in anticipation
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Speaker 1: of one day soon in their minds, hopefully yes, serving
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Speaker 1: in a brand new temple. And you're like, have I
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Speaker 1: stepped out of ancient Israel into the modern world? And
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Speaker 1: so at the same time, when you have the whole
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Speaker 1: modern world going, you have this connection with ancient Israel.
48:21
Speaker 1: And what we do know is that there is going
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Speaker 1: to be a coming third temple where sacrifices are being
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Speaker 1: an offered again. It would be like reading a book,
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Speaker 1: a children's book. I mean, there's my grandson. This is
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Speaker 1: what they used to do in the Old Testament. And
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Speaker 1: yet again last week he had all these priests being
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Speaker 1: all in their garb doing these things. It's like a
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Speaker 1: portrait out of ancient history. But we know the Bible
48:41
Speaker 1: said it's coming, and here we're watching. It's amazing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look at the reactions of that. The reaction
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Speaker 3: can be seen day by day in the Middle East.
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Speaker 3: Right now, the I guess the old dragon got stirred
48:53
Speaker 3: up just a little bit. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And you know, when you look at Revelation.
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Speaker 1: We talked about Revelation thirteen, But in Revelation twelve, the
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Speaker 1: dragon hates the woman, and the woman is Israel, and
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Speaker 1: he goes to he seeks to commit genocide on her,
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Speaker 1: and yet God protects her, you know, brings the earth,
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Speaker 1: he sends out a flood to destroy her.
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Speaker 2: And yet here we are, as we're.
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Speaker 1: Watching the end of the age, we're watching the increasing
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Speaker 1: anti Semitism, not only around the world but in our
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Speaker 1: own country.
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Speaker 2: It's totally satanic.
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Speaker 1: And yet we know Revelation twelve is prophetic itself that
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Speaker 1: coming at the end of the age, the dragon and
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Speaker 1: Israel squared off. And yet if all of that was
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Speaker 1: fulfilled in the first century. Again, if Book Revelation no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: you don't understand gary was fulfilled in the first century,
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Speaker 1: what are we looking at here? It doesn't It just
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Speaker 1: doesn't fit reality. And I think as we continue to
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Speaker 1: watch the idea that the book Revelation is going to
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Speaker 1: be fully accomplished in the in our end of the
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Speaker 1: age scenario right now again and be vindicated, it just
49:58
Speaker 1: shows that these other views they just don't match reality
50:01
Speaker 1: because we're watching it now the Squaring Office. Begune, it's
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Speaker 1: not going away.
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Speaker 3: It's not going away for sure. And you know, we
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Speaker 3: are so blessed to be to have a, if you will,
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Speaker 3: a pattern to observe. God said, Okay, it's going to
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Speaker 3: be like this. I don't want you to be totally
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Speaker 3: ignorant about what's happening on planet Earth. I'm giving I'm
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Speaker 3: laying out the entire pattern and it's really easy for
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Speaker 3: you to see. And by the way, we see it,
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Speaker 3: as you just pointed out. So well, yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Well it's been great.
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Speaker 1: I hope everybody you enjoyed hearing the topics that we
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Speaker 1: discussed today. The week in Bible, prophecy, here we are
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Speaker 1: and Lord willing, we'll be back next week and again,
50:47
Speaker 1: so much going on, but it just at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, what's the goal here.
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Speaker 2: The goal is to see.
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Speaker 1: That what scripture said is true and what also is true,
50:54
Speaker 1: not only just prophecy, but that Jesus is Lord, he's
50:57
Speaker 1: the Messiah, he's the Son of God, he's the Savior.
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Speaker 1: And when we look at these things, scripture shows quite
51:03
Speaker 1: clearly that there is no way for salvation under any
51:08
Speaker 1: other name than the name of Jesus Christ. And that's
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Speaker 1: why we're here, Gary, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: And as we always say, hey we're watching you keep
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Speaker 3: watching too.
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Speaker 2: Amen.
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