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Press Play - Tomb Raider · Fandomonium! A Fandom Comedy Game Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to press play, where we're going through the less
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  Speaker 1: than stellar history of video game movies. I'm Drew Shulman.
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  Speaker 1: With me is my beefcheek bro Jason Wynn. Now, whether
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  Speaker 1: you're watching or playing along, it's time to press play.
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  Speaker 1: This is again one of those weird ones, like I
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  Speaker 1: know the movies more than the games. What about you?
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  Speaker 2: That's fair?
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  Speaker 3: I ooh, maybe this maybe the same amount. I think
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  Speaker 3: we all know Laura Croft, we all know tomb Raider,
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  Speaker 3: we all know she is. I know there was the
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  Speaker 3: reboot series that came out that was like in the
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  Speaker 3: heyday of my video game career. It was like roughly
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  Speaker 3: the twenty tens was when that reboot came out. I
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  Speaker 3: never got to it. I was I think I had
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  Speaker 3: played it once, like the classic games once, and I
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  Speaker 3: hate it.
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  Speaker 1: The controls were awful. It was yeah, that was it.
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  Speaker 1: That was like that that PlayStation era where like no
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  Speaker 1: one really knew how to do controls right yet, so
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  Speaker 1: everything felt really clunky, like I think we look back
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  Speaker 1: at I did give an example Resident Evils, very tanky
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  Speaker 1: ass controls and kind of go like oh, like that
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  Speaker 1: was like a thing that was special. They were just bad.
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  Speaker 1: Controls that we'd like look back on fondly. I think
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  Speaker 1: Two Meter was in that same boat roughly, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: And I've I've watched these movies before on TV. Did
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  Speaker 3: I remember anything about them? No?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say I definitely saw this movie.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I saw it in theaters. I would
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  Speaker 1: have been like maybe ten or eleven, but I definitely
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  Speaker 1: saw it, like around the time it came out, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe when it first hit like Blockbuster rentals, just to
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  Speaker 1: show some of our age a little bit. But I
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  Speaker 1: think the thing with the games that always kind of
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  Speaker 1: got me was like a friend had it, so I'd
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  Speaker 1: played like the first level or like as far as
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  Speaker 1: I can get before it became too difficult for ten
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  Speaker 1: year old me or whatever old I was at the time, right,
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  Speaker 1: and only like recently in watching some like I think
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  Speaker 1: I was like at the history of speed running or
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  Speaker 1: like glitches or something, and they did a segment of
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  Speaker 1: Larercraft in two Meter, and I was like, wait, if
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  Speaker 1: this gets to aliens, what the fuck? I didn't know that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: apparently the games have aliens and bullshit. I mean, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: these movies get pretty weird and whimsical at least the
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  Speaker 1: first one does.
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  Speaker 3: That does make sense though, because it's very evident that
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  Speaker 3: Tone Raider was in the vein of Indiana Jones and
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  Speaker 3: in this similar era was like the Mummy. Like there
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  Speaker 3: there are these things that got inspired by Indian Indiana Jones,
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  Speaker 3: which in itself was inspired by I believe fifty cerials
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  Speaker 3: were what they were called, right, And so the fact
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  Speaker 3: that one of these things naturally proguests to aliens like
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  Speaker 3: Indiana Jones did, it makes a lot of sense, right,
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  Speaker 3: Flash Gordon that kind of shtick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of funny, it Iver, Really, it's funny,
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  Speaker 1: like I always sort of draw that line, like I
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  Speaker 1: always like, for some reason in my brain, there's like
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  Speaker 1: when you think of sci fi, that's like I really
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  Speaker 1: draw the line of like science fiction versus fantasy. And
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  Speaker 1: to me, like by a Croft, while it was set
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  Speaker 1: in a world that was more realistic, it was more
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  Speaker 1: of like, oh, we'll go with like the fantasy element
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  Speaker 1: of like Greek gods or in you know, Norse mythology
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  Speaker 1: to go the other way, and I think Indiana Jones
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  Speaker 1: was the same boats are going the other way was
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  Speaker 1: always so jarring, and like I mean Indiana Jones tried it.
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  Speaker 1: Was it successful. No, but we don't know the answer
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  Speaker 1: to that. It wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: It's not the worst Indiana Jones, So maybe give a
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  Speaker 3: little creed, maybe give it a little slack. I will
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  Speaker 3: say the one thing that is maybe the most notable
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  Speaker 3: about this franchise is Angelina Jolie was the perfect pick
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  Speaker 3: for Lara Croft. There is no other person that could
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  Speaker 3: play this character. She was born to play no one else.
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  Speaker 3: But as well, like it's a cyclical thing where I
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  Speaker 3: can only imagine Laara Croft in live action as her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know you hear Like there was apparently
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  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be a third movie, but she opted
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  Speaker 1: out and it just never happened. And like what I
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  Speaker 1: think years later, think twenty eighteen, maybe they tried rebooting
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  Speaker 1: the franchise. I don't know, we're not covering those today,
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  Speaker 1: but I know they Yes. I feel like even before
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  Speaker 1: it was like a twinkle in anyone's eye they were
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  Speaker 1: gonna do a movie. If you ask someone like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: who's your dream cast for letter Craft, it was just like, oh, Angela,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Lee, there's no question even ask that question.
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  Speaker 2: No, I do love you.
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  Speaker 3: Set before I was a twinkle on anyone else's eye
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  Speaker 3: because it's like because in my mind, it's like when
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  Speaker 3: they first uh, when they did the first film ever,
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  Speaker 3: and it was that it's the it's the train, that
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  Speaker 3: it's just the twenty second video of a train, and
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  Speaker 3: everyone left the audience.
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  Speaker 2: There was some schmuck who was like, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what, I could see someone named Angelina Jo't leafing
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  Speaker 3: law across the tomb.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's why this is going. That's the future of
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  Speaker 1: this medium. My god, your fucking action for that is
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  Speaker 1: so good. I am so packed. It's so good. Well
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  Speaker 1: for anyone who has not watched these films with us,
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  Speaker 1: And for once, I'm gonna I'm gonna cheat it in
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  Speaker 1: and say, like, for half of this, you missed out
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  Speaker 1: on a good movie. Oh we'll guess. Well, we'll discuss
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  Speaker 1: all of the movie, but to recap the film at
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  Speaker 1: least the first film and kind of cover the second
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  Speaker 1: film at the same time. This is the adventurer of
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  Speaker 1: Lara Croft, exploring lost empires and discovering valuable treasure in
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  Speaker 1: her daily life, but a secret from the past of
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  Speaker 1: her father, a missing archaeologist, will lead her to a
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  Speaker 1: more lost empires and even more valuable treasures. Lara Croft
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  Speaker 1: faces off against the Illuminati to recover a magic triangle
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  Speaker 1: her father warns is too powerful to fall into the
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  Speaker 1: wrong hands. And I like to point out it's literally
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  Speaker 1: called the triangle. It's not like just oh, it's a
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  Speaker 1: triangular shape thing and it's called the something of something
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  Speaker 1: or something. It's no, yeah, this is a magic triangle
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  Speaker 1: that lets you travel through time.
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  Speaker 3: Similarly, the mcguffin defined that said triangle was the clock,
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  Speaker 3: and it's only known as the clock, I believe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, it's just straight to the point efficient.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that's I think the biggest difference
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  Speaker 1: in these movies is the first movie gets like right
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  Speaker 1: to the point real fast. It's like, here's the key,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's gonna try to steal it from you. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go find the two half of this triangle.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome final combat with bad guy like everything video it's good,
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  Speaker 1: very video gaming, very like linear video game progression levels.
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  Speaker 1: And then the second movie said, why should we do
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  Speaker 1: any of the stuff that worked?
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  Speaker 3: Dude, it's god, should I say this now? Spoiler alert?
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  Speaker 3: I think the second movie is the worst of all
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  Speaker 3: the movies we've seen. Maybe maybe not objectively as a film,
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  Speaker 3: but it's at the bottom for me right now.
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  Speaker 1: I think I need to really do some serious pondering.
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  Speaker 1: But like I am not opposed to that position for
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  Speaker 1: this movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, It's sequels do not do well in our
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  Speaker 3: impressed point.
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  Speaker 1: It really feels like they they try really hard with
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  Speaker 1: the first one when they do and they end up
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  Speaker 1: with something like surprisingly decent that's like a nice amash
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  Speaker 1: of the game. It feels right that fans enjoy and
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  Speaker 1: then they go, Okay, let's just do all the trophy
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  Speaker 1: bullshit that movies do and make a second one as
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  Speaker 1: fast as physically possible, and even if it bombs, will
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  Speaker 1: still make money because people came to see it. Right.
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  Speaker 3: It's a tax fuckat we wrote off a Texas who
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  Speaker 3: gives a shit about anything, just put.
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  Speaker 1: It out exactly like I mean it. It's like I
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  Speaker 1: really got to say, like I know, it's really far
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  Speaker 1: down the road for us, but like I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: excited because I haven't seen it yet, but I've only
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  Speaker 1: heard like positive things. Is the Five Nights at Freddy movie,
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  Speaker 1: Oh I've yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Again. People
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  Speaker 1: have told me, like, oh, like, if you're a fan
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  Speaker 1: of the franchise, like they really do it justice, and
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  Speaker 1: like if you're not a fan, you might be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit lost for a bit, but like that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: A movie doesn't need to be made for every single person.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay if a movie's made for a specific audience. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you might not get as wide acceptance as other movies might,
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  Speaker 1: but like the audience you want will enjoy it and
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  Speaker 1: come back for more. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, there was something I won't say special, but
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  Speaker 3: there was something competent about the first film that just
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  Speaker 3: became something something off. That being said, if you're more
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  Speaker 3: familiar with the movies, maybe not so much the video games.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit about those here debating in nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 3: Tone Raider is an action adventure game focusing on gunplay,
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  Speaker 3: puzzle solving, and platforming the best parts of nineties gaming,
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  Speaker 3: and it features the British archaeologist Laura Croft. Her groundbreaking
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  Speaker 3: polygons had made her one of the most iconic video
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  Speaker 3: game characters of all time. We love early PlayStation graphics.
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  Speaker 3: Now that being said, well, technically it's still going on.
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  Speaker 3: The most recent release being the remastered collection that crazy
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  Speaker 3: switch title that was mused recently. It's been shopped around
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  Speaker 3: by four different studios the franchise, which I did not realize.
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  Speaker 3: People might be more familiar with the reboots that we
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  Speaker 3: mentioned earlier as well, but there was there was a
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  Speaker 3: passing of the torch four different times here. So the
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  Speaker 3: future of Tom Rader is up for debate. We'll see,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: You know what. Like I have dabbled in the newer games,
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  Speaker 1: I will say like they definitely caught my interest. They
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  Speaker 1: looked good, The trailers had me peaked. I think I
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  Speaker 1: eventually got a bunch of them for free through insert
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  Speaker 1: any number of programs that give out free games every
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  Speaker 1: few months. Yeah, yeah, but like genuinely they like they
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  Speaker 1: feel like I've only played the first level of one
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  Speaker 1: or two of them, but they were really fun feeling games,
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  Speaker 1: Like they really, you know what, Like it says something
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  Speaker 1: to modernize a game to meet today's standards without losing
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  Speaker 1: the spirit of the original. And while I haven't played
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  Speaker 1: either game fully enough to really like compare them the
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  Speaker 1: right way as someone coming in very fresh to both
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  Speaker 1: having just tried them as a child, the originals and
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  Speaker 1: playing the new ones briefly now it's like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like this still feels like what I expected to feel
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  Speaker 1: in a two Rader game. For sure.
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  Speaker 3: From what I understood of the Rebit series, it didn't
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  Speaker 3: do anything ground by any means, but it was another
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  Speaker 3: flavor of a video game that most of us were
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  Speaker 3: familiar with and was competent enough to have I think
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  Speaker 3: three games total, which is a good mark generally speaking.
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  Speaker 3: It seemed like if you liked Uncharted, or if you
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  Speaker 3: liked I don't know, Far Cry or insert any other
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  Speaker 3: like action adventure game of that era, you would have
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  Speaker 3: liked those games.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean like people alwaysly choked that Nathan Drake
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  Speaker 1: was basically there was basically dude raider. It was basically
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  Speaker 1: what if Larra Kroff was a boy?
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  Speaker 3: And we find out in these movies. These movies are
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  Speaker 3: basically what if James Bond was a girl? That's what
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  Speaker 3: my impression is, you know what the no I will
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  Speaker 3: actually push back slightly on that. I think I ultimately
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right, But I think the first movie
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  Speaker 3: specifically in the fact they don't they don't give her
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  Speaker 3: a like necessary obvious love interest, and they don't sort
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  Speaker 3: of follow that angle per se. I always to me,
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  Speaker 3: James Bond is always so like the sleeping around, the
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  Speaker 3: being suave of the flirting is always so important. While
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  Speaker 3: she definitely does some flirting, yeah, it's never like it
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  Speaker 3: never it never crossed the line where it felt like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you're just the fact that she's a woman, You're using
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  Speaker 3: this to make the movie more like titillating, right right,
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  Speaker 3: And there was, I mean, let's get straight into it.
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  Speaker 3: There are moments in the very beginning of this movie.
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  Speaker 1: Ian.
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  Speaker 3: The beginning of this movie sets the tone incredibly quickly.
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  Speaker 3: I think we get a very two thousand. It's opening
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  Speaker 3: scene where Lara's like practicing on a robot. It's a
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  Speaker 3: CGI robot, there's gun fu, there's techno playing in the background.
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  Speaker 3: It's very of the era, and there's lots of establishing
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  Speaker 3: scenes and shots that that says Lara's a sexy woman
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  Speaker 3: who's also a rich, fucking tough Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Very much so. I also have to just give like
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  Speaker 1: a kudos to this movie for a moment of like
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  Speaker 1: for how poor the CG is on those robots when
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  Speaker 1: we later see them not in CG like the practical bills, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they look so good, like I wish they had the
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  Speaker 1: tech to make those work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think that the production value
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  Speaker 3: on this film it's it's it's the most recent movie
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  Speaker 3: we've reviewed obviously up to this point. But it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: it looks how it should, if that makes any sense.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes you'll see a movie and you go, Wow, that
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  Speaker 3: cg's really bad. Stuart Little in two thousand and one
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  Speaker 3: had better CG than this twenty twenty five. The FUX
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  Speaker 3: going on here, you know what I mean? Like sometimes
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  Speaker 3: that happens. This movie looks very good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like despite how bad the CG is, Like it
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  Speaker 1: feels like it feels out of place, even in the
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  Speaker 1: moment because it almost feels gamy. Yeah right, But the
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  Speaker 1: entire opening scene like that again, just like like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it does such a good job of painting who she
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  Speaker 1: is because we've literally got this, like the interaction she
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  Speaker 1: has with her her techie dude, Yeah Bryce.
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  Speaker 3: Is his name, I don't remember. It's so two thousands. Her,
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  Speaker 3: her surrounding cast, and her villains are so two thousands.
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  Speaker 1: Please, Oh yeah, they're like they're all such cliches. Like
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  Speaker 1: even even the butler with like a woman's name Hillary,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, is that that's that's his name. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like it's one of those things where it's
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  Speaker 1: like really because it just the men in her life
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  Speaker 1: are feminized. Is probably what they were going for there too,
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  Speaker 1: because the nerdy guy iman Like you've watched the movie
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  Speaker 1: from the early two thousands, if this guy could have
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  Speaker 1: been played by Seth Green, he would have been yes,
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  Speaker 1: very much. So, oh, I will give kudos to the butler.
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  Speaker 1: I do love the butler fully, like, just oh, here
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  Speaker 1: are ruck is downstairs, Put it on my bulletproof vest,
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  Speaker 1: cock my shotgun and go shoot some bad guys, like
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  Speaker 1: just like I like that. He's not in that that
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  Speaker 1: he's not just like a butler. He's actually like as
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  Speaker 1: much as like Lara doesn't need to be saved, he's
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  Speaker 1: still like, well, I gotta pract the house and my
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  Speaker 1: boss for sure.
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  Speaker 3: And he's he does what a cartoonish butler should. He
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  Speaker 3: always has a quip in a and a snip, doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: He Oh he does? Yeah, hell he is. He is
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  Speaker 1: so cartoon like image of a butler. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And she is supposed to be a posh British person.
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  Speaker 3: That accent is rough and it never.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's you know what, Like, I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: it's right, but it's it's not. It's not winning any awards. No, no, no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 3: There's some moments where it's passable. It's passable, like one
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  Speaker 3: of the more subtler moments, but there's there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of Quippi one liners in here, and it's it's not good.
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  Speaker 3: That's the one mark against Angelina Joe Lee.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: She has these moments too where I'm not gonna mark
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  Speaker 3: it against her. This definitely was like a director's thing
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  Speaker 3: or a producer thing. Is it just me or did
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  Speaker 3: they try to make her like the video game character?
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  Speaker 3: She has a walk early on where her arm's at
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  Speaker 3: forty five degrees. It's a very exaggerated walk.
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  Speaker 1: I admit it. I'm as straight male.
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  Speaker 2: Is it mere?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Is the costuming department trying to make her boobs pointier?
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  Speaker 1: So they actually did? Okay, I'm not crazy. Uh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So in the video game, Larakrof's character is a thirty
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  Speaker 1: six double D. Why do I have these facts? Don't
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  Speaker 1: ask questions? And we didn't research my next line. Angelina
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  Speaker 1: Dooley is naturally a thirty six C and was padded
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  Speaker 1: to a thirty six D for the movie. They felt
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  Speaker 1: that the padding anything beyond that to get to the
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  Speaker 1: double d's was too unrealistic.
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  Speaker 2: This was directed by a man.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very much so, same thing. Apparently the shower
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  Speaker 1: scene was supposed to be like full nudity like, so
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  Speaker 1: allegedly a lot of it was cut to kind of
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  Speaker 1: keep a PG thirteen rating, which obviously it did get to, right,
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  Speaker 1: But I think the fact they don't sexualize her, like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: she's an attractive woman, the character, the actress, Like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not arguing any of that, but they don't actively go
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  Speaker 1: out of their way to put her in skimpier than
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  Speaker 1: necessary outfits, like yes, kind of iconic to the character, right,
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  Speaker 1: but like we never like it's literally we don't get
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  Speaker 1: her in a bikini until the second movie, and even
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  Speaker 1: then it feels like we just put her in a
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  Speaker 1: bikini because we wanted to make her sexier.
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  Speaker 3: Right Yeah, No, I and I think I want to believe,
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  Speaker 3: is what I'll say that Angelina Jolie probably had some
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: thoughts about that, if I'm being honest, because she feels
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: like there are moments in this movie where she Lara
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Croft specific. The character is very respectful and knowledgeable about
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: the different regions that she's in. She does the classic
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Indiana Jones thing of like knowing every single fact. Ah,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: the Illuminati in sixteen ninety two sailed the Ocean blue,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: and that's what that triangle means.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Is ocean blue? See for Catwoman? Whatever? Right? That that
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: whole that whole shick? What is this puzzle you're unsolving?
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: It's a classic line from Adam West's Batman, where because
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: he's the world's greatest detective, he goes see in the
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: sea See for Catwoman. It's a It's a famous line
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: from the movie. Don't I remember the line? Yeah, yeah,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: that's amazing.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: It's just a meme.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty fishy.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: What happened to me on that ladder?
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: You mean, but there's a fish that could be a
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: But wait, it happened at sea see See for Catwoman.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Anyways, she does a little bit of that. But I
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: feel that aspect of Larakraft being respectful and knowing the
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: languages and so and so forth, I want to believe
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: that is something that Angelina Jolie chose to impartance to
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: the character because she is a background I believe she
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: was part of the Peace Corps, and we know that
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: she loves to pick up children in different countries, so
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I imagine she's spent time in those countries.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Well, so fun time. The first child she adopted from
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Cambodia was because she fell in love with Cambodia while
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: filming this movie. This was the start of her journey. Yes,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the East, the Eastern World.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Like Adam West's Batman, I am also the world's greatest
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: detective see is for Catman.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty make a shark repelling joke here, and
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I can't. Some days you just can't get rid of
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: a bomb. There you go. But yeah, so but you
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: actually know what you do. Make a good point. Something
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I did learn in the second film while looking for
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: fun facts was that she actually pushed back against the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: padding a second time, being like it seems so unnecessary,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and they were like, Okay, she looks better.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: She looks healthier San's padding, But just in general, she
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: looks much more alive and vibrant and healthy in that
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: second film. Everything else about that second film aside, Yeah,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: she looks great.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, the amount of training she did for
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: this movie is like, I have some facts. Later on
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that'll just like that. Even though I was like blown
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: away by I'm like, I understand method acting, but this
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: is nuts. Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I did enjoy that as well.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: About this movie, it seemed to she's rich, tough, but
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: it also seems to establish little world building things where
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: like at the end of the movie we find out
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: she has this picture of her with a bunch of
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: like seemingly sas dudes, So she isn't quote unquote Mary Sue.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I hate that term.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: But the reason Lara Croft is able to survive the
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: things that we see in this movie is because she
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: has assumed military training of some sort on top of
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: being an archaeologist. So it's like Indiana Jones got through
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the things he did through sheer luck and will she
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: has military training.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: If that makes any sense. That's necessary. Yeah, they didn't have.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: But I think that's one of the biggest points for
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: this movie, like one of my number one like gold
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: stars for this film. Yeah, she is genuinely a talented
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: archaeologist and talented in combat and talented marksman. I think
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: it's in the second movie we get the scene where
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: she's doing the like, uh target range on horseback. Yeah,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: which again is like what a bizarre scene, but like again,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: it paints a picture of like, this is someone who
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: is trained and knows what they're doing. It isn't just
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: getting lucky like Indiana Jones kind of is like he
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: is just an archaeologist who happens to stumble into the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: right answer sometimes.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah right right right yeah. Now that all being said,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: her opposite number of this movie less Indiana Jones, more
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: so James Bond. Here we get this introduction to a
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: young Jorra mormont Ian Glenn so thin, so so dark
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: and brooding.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: My god, he's looking great in this movie. Oh he
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: really does. Genuinely, I couldn't figure out why I recognized him,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and I think I did pop up and I am
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: to be in like scroll that I just must have
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: not gotten far enough to catch Game of Thrones. As
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: soon as your notes came up, I was like, right,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that's why I know this asshole. Yep, yep.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I think he played a live action Batman at one point,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: and I think that casting director's inspiration was this movie,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: because he's he's hamming it up, he's he's a dick,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: he's rich, he's got a sniveling henchman, which I love yes,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: the background every now and then going yeah or Mormon.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a there's a recurring joke I always see,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: which is like, how do you make sure that the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: audience knows how evil your bad guy is?
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And they did such a good job here, I think
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the entire time we see him, especially when they're trying
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to tear down that like door to the temple m hm,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: where he's just like sitting on this like lovely plush
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: red velvet stelf with like an assortment of fruit, not
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: even watching the work happen, like his back turned to
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: them as they're like heaving, and even Daniel Craig joins
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: in on the heaving and trying to pulp pull the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: dance ring at a time, right right, The timing in
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: this movie, I swear to God, is my biggest gripe.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: But also you mentioned Daniel Craig a young yeah thin
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: dam not yet James Bond. It's oh my note here
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: was Laura Croft and James Bond were ex lovers?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: How amazing? How amazing? This again one of those like
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I can't remember a single Daniel Craig roll before Casino Royale.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And again I'd seen this movie way younger, so none
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: of it really stuck. But lerra Croft, so to see
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: him in this I was like, there was a moment
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that looks just like is it Craig?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Am I just equating random hot British man.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: First we had a a tight Door Marmott, Now a
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: tight James Bond.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And there was a moment in this movie
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: where I almost like wanted to kind of go like, ugh,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: like way to ruin something was after all this badass
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: like Lara Croft stuff to just have like random shower
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: scene which we learned was supposed to be more revealing
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and like sexual, right, but obviously cut And then we
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: equal opportunity we get Daniel Craig's much more revealing shower
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: scene tight like literally the Austin Powers just covering the
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: junk with setting.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a phrase we used often in this show is tight. Also,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: it was it was in this scene where I began
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: to question, we need an American man to balance the
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: obviously British Laura Cross. Who are we gonna get Daniel
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: fucking Greg James goddamn Bond? Uh famously Welsh?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I believe it?
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: No, that's that's Pierce Brasen Yeah, he's he's really hamming
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: up the American too.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: He's really got the nasal down.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: It's it's really crazy for them to swap accents.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, I love the What was I gonna call it
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: was the foreign exchange accents.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Foreign exchange accents is great.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I just think this is where he started working on
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: his his American accent. And look where we've gotten today
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: with knives out. That's true, that's true.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Thinking back on the movie, actually there is a moment.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: It's it's that thing that you're talking about where he
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: joins in on the laborers and Ian Glenn doesn't to
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: show like the characters.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh he there's a.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Phrase that said he's like, all right, so we got
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: to get faster, and then Daniel Craig like pulls up
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: in the scene and starts moving it. I didn't realize
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: that was him saying that, which is I thought someone
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: in the background had said that, and then like Daniel
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Craig rolled up.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he's he's he's great.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: He plays the double triple crossing ex lover trope and
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: he's very good in that role.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. They do the love
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: interest where it's like we have some history, there could
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: be a future, but it doesn't need to be a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: defining part of her character or like a major plot point.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It can just be they're humans who live in this world.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be relevant to the plot kind
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of thing, like, yes, she wants to save an old
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: friend of hers, that's fine for sure.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: One up this movie has over James Bond is treating
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the quote unquote villainous romantic interest with some dimension and
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: allowing that relationship to have some dimension as well. But
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: also I call this movie James Bond because I've never
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: watched any of the Pierce Brosnan and James Bond movies.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: This is how I imagine.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: It would go.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Because when Lara, the first time we see Lara Croft
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: get up and go towards the adventure, that aspect of
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: the hero's journey right to Leave. She passes by her
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: mansion and she chooses a motorcycle and there's a shot.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: It happens in five seconds. She gets off on a
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: motorcycle which zooms past her Assen Martin casually parked in
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: her mansion, and then she zooms past the Tower Bridge
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: in London. Yeah, and it was like, hey, we're British.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was just like, let's just let's remind you
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: how British we are real quick.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I felt Matt's voice in my ear go Jesus fucking Christ,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Before we leave her mansion, we do need to touch
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: on probably the most bizarre scene in this movie in
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: my opinion, and that is before bedtime, in her like pajamas, oh,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: doing an aerialist workout session. Yesh yeah yeah yeah. Then
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: pivots into the home invasion attack, which is just, yeah,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: another cliche. I did love your note about that, where
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you were like, this is casual for her. I actually
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: have the same thought.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I just didn't write it down that she sets herself
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: up for like Ariel Acrobat. Before bedtime, her butler passes
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: by her and he's like, have a good night, miss Croft,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: don't try to hurt yourself or whatever. And I love
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: the nonchalant attitude he has about it, because I think
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: he's like, fuck these rich tops. I think his attitude
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: about it like it's so weird.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I mean yes, I think that's definitely the attitude he
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: has of just like it's kind of like the like
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: if you're so rich and you have so much time,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: like the idea that you just sort of pick up
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: new hobbies that get more and more eclectic and bizarre
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and niche because you have the time and money. Yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and for her, it's also this level of athleticism and like,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you know, aerobics to it that is still like it's
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: not just like for her, we see it translates into
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: her fighting style and actually becomes part of the fight,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: which I think is an amazing Like again, it's super
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like a very obvious setup for a scene in a movie.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: But the idea that, like, as someone who adventures and
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: his encountered fights like this before, clearly why not have
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: this set of skills case you will find yourself swinging
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: around fighting things, which we actually do kind of see
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: her do in the first tune, now that I say it.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Out loud, Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I think you're absolutely right.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I think you've gotten to the head of the director
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: and everyone who's trying.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: To build up this world.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: And I'm still stuck in the butler's head because in
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: his brain, he's like, this fucking rich girl she went
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: to she went to Cambodia once, and now she's come back.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Like this, Oh my god.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thinks she can speak the language.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: He thinks she could just pick up kids anytime she
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: wants an aero acrobatics God.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: In my mind, I think like, as we're watching the movie,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it's like Angelina Jolian Lara Croft are becoming one person.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Well, one specific aspect of that is in the film
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: she has a distant father as her Obi Wan Kenobi
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: as her as her old mentor. He comes in her
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: envisions as a ghost right and her father has played
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: none other by John Voight, who is Angelina Joe's real father, who.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: She hates infamously, like infamously hates. What the hell happened there?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I I will be honest. I didn't
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: go two into it, so I figured that could be
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a whole other thing we don't need to get into
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: on our show, sure, right, but like I could even
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: find like a reference of like when their animosity began.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was before the filming
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of this movie, but based on something in your notes,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: what if you mentioned the one time they have a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: scene together, it feels like they're clearly not in the room.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's photoshopped.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Is that the so this he comes to her in
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: flashbacks or like secret messages. He's like narrating a letter
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: or something like that. And so they at the very
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: end of the movie they finally have like a scene together,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: and it's so evident that they're not in the same
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: room at all. Like it's not behind the shoulder shots,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: it's just basse shots. And then there is a moment
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: where they like touch or interact, but it's split down
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the middle of the of the fucking screen. So it's
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: a very evident that they've green screened each other in
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: or comped it in. And it's like whatever the animosity
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: started it, it had to have been around this movie, right,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I do need.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: To share with you that was not green screen That's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the only scene they did together.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: That's wild because like I watched it, assuming they were
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: in the same room, and like knowing you obviously don't
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: like each other, and I'm like, like, it's clear how
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: little they want to be doing this together kind of
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: thing like that, Yeah, they even.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Both agreed to do this movie, Like what was that
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I need the story? I need to give me that
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: like that deep dive into the history of this one,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: But like, no, that's just how little they wanted to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: be near each other.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: That's wild.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: That's wild.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I think you.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I think if you were to go back to two
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: thousand and one and you and me were alive, you
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: could have picked either of us to be Angelina and
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Jolie's father, and we would have had better chemistry. I
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: would have sat there and I've been like, come on, man,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I'm worried about you. He went to Cambodia once.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I understand, but.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I need you to get a job, be fatherly.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I can see it. I can see
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to you. But we we do. We do leave the mansion,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: as you said, We get our nice little uh showing
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: off a British we are moment, and we dive right
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: into tube rating. Fuck.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's it's almost instantaneous, and it's
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: and it's light, right, I guess it's light in a sense.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: It's I think the situation from memory the first two
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: is it's a bunch of goons.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Laura's like, she's cheeky.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: She's like, you're about to do the thing wrong, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: they're like, what are you talking about? And she's she
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't come into it. Guns blazing and murders fifty dudes.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: She gets out of it through wit and her superior
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: intellect on the subject matter at hands. And I only
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: am notating that right now because I specifically want to
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: say that that does not happen in the second movie
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so fun, another little fun fact that I just
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: thought of it I remembered right now. In this film,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: she does not shoot anyone. Wow, there is not a
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: single death by gun. The closest we get I think
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: she knocks out a goon with the butt of her
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: gun during the home invasion, right, the robot shoots, the
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: robots shoots the statues, seven magazines and a statue's fucking fake? Gotcha?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, that is a fun fact. That's a good one.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: That's a good one.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: And I like that though, because I think, like again,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna sit here and say like, oh, like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: let's compare it in The Jones again, who clearly does
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: use a gun and does kill somebody, Like, oh, he's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: not as good? Like whatever, Right, every movie, every character
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: has their own motives, their own acts, their own what
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: rules work in their universe? Punches Bonds, how many guys
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: is James Bond kill? And we're all just like cool,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: yeah right women, But yeah, yeah, exactly, like you know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: everyone's metrics are different. But the fact they took the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: time to like not have her and again, maybe it
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: was for the age rating. Maybe it was a deliberate decision.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, points for that one. It's not a necessary
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: at all. Tree Again, I don't think that's necessary. But
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: the fact that they made that decision is a really
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: cool decision. And the fact that they don't make it
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: like pedantic. It's not like, it's not like John voids.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: It's not like John Voyd's like Laura, with great responsibility
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: comes great power.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: No guns, I am batchmen. Yeah, but after giving this
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: movie and it's another little gold Star, I do need
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to rip it to shreds a tiny bit, may I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: please do? Okay, So the fucking Illuminati has been around
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: for seemingly forever. Let's just say specifically, this artifact and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: planned thing has been known about since Lara's dad was killed.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: We find out later that it was the villain of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the movie who killed him and stole the locket, which
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: means he has been dead or missing since nineteen sixty five. So,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: assuming this movie takes place in the year two thousand
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: when it was released two thousand and one. That's at
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: least thirty five years. So they've had thirty five years
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to find this key and are only seriously looking into
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it now. A week before this whole convergence bullshit following this,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: her father is fully aware the clock is going to
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: start ticking about a week before because he times the
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: letter to show up a day later. He couldn't have
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: sent to the letter a few weeks earlier, a month earlier,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: like clearly she knows, but all this shit and isn't
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: like it wasn't like one of those things where it's
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: like I need you to see it first to realize
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that it isn't mumbo jumbo before you believe my letter. No, no,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it's just she believes that it phades out because she
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: trusts her father, So the letter normally shows up late,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: so she doesn't know what it is and by this
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: point it has had it stolen or lost or whatever
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the bullshit could have could have happened, but did right.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But also she now has fifteen freaking hours to get
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to this first temple, get back the key, and solve
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: this thing, and then to which she does. She does,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: because of course movie. Yeah, But also they keep saying
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: how like there's a time limit to get this first
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: piece of the triangle because of the alignment, But like
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: that's not how alignments work. The alignments is all the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: planets line up at a specific point. So is there
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: just an arbitrary point X number of hours or days
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: before the alignment. That's also like a pseudo mini alignment
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: that they just don't talk about, but is at.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Ye, it's part of the it's part of the puzzles
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: and all this other stuff. And they say it often
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: in this movie. I mean to to to further your point,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: they say in the movie very often, you want to
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: wait another five thousand years before this happens.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: That's a shit.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Ton of fucking time to prep some stuff. Gang, you
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: have so much time to get rolling on this beforehand.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: But also the first temple that we talked about, it's
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: very imperative that they get to do what they need
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: to do on the exact millisecond apparently, Yeah, but even seconds.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I just want to say, like, so they're like stressing,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: and they're like they're not like, oh, we should try
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: one method and then if your method doesn't work, we
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: should try another method. Uh, but no, we have to
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: do this one method on the fucking millisecond of planets aligning,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: which take.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you probably got a good hour. Yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and the alignment is what happens to the second temple
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: when they get the second half of the triangle. So
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: it was this alignment, right, You're right. It's like that's
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: what I can't figure out. It's like, what, like, Okay,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: we have this thing, this spatial thing that we can
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: physically time that we know is gonna happen in an
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: exact time, but then there's this other thing that is
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: never really mentioned but happens at an exact time also
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a week early, that we need to do. Also. It's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: just it's very like it's very written off in a
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: video gaming way that's kind of just like here's your mission,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: get it done in time, right. Yeah. Like so again,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna I complain about more the planning
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and logistics of the Illuminati having minimum thirty five years
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: to do this and never thinking, well, we killed the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: guy who had the key, and his daughter is now
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a rich explorer in this giant mansion he built for her,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: should we maybe break in and try to see if
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: he has the key in there somewhere. No, no, wait,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: wait till she finds the key with like an hour
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: or two despair, then reveal it to us hopefully, and
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: then break in and steal it. That's the point.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this movie is bad, but it's not like
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: objectively in all the grand scheme of movies, like, if
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: you have to compare this to like, I don't know,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Schindler's List, it's it's not a good movie all the.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: What do you want me to compare this to the
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Muppet Movie?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: No, nothing compares to the umpt movie.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: My top three movies for anyone who wants to know
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: is Schindler's List, the Muppet Movie, and Stuart Little in
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: that order. Oh my god, I can't I can't think.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: I can't say the next thing.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: It was just so.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, this movie is good compared to what we've it's
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: it's maybe objectively the best movie we've seen of these movies. No, no, no
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Pokemon the first movie. Okay, minus Pokemon, the first movie,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: it's the best movie we've seen. Like looks wise, it
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: it Yes, it has plots or it has holes in
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: its plot, but.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: It holds a lot that like at the end of
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the day. Yes, Like the plot still holds together if
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you ignored these weird little discrepancies that aren't really discussed
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: for the sake of like getting to the major plot. Yeah.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: And I also think it's one of those things where
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: not having the BS extra explanations that we don't really
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: need to cover these things in order to get to
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: more tomb rating and action that is actually worth watching. Yeah,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: it does kind of work in its favor.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: The interesting thing about this episode is that that is
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: the first movie more or less in a nutshell, there's
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: not much else say about the second movie. Yeah, to
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: the point where when we did we've done a double
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: movie feature before with more Combat, more Combat Annihilation, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: we kind of used the segment of more Combination Annihilation
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: to kind of rip into it. I don't even want
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: to rip into this. It's so nothing. It's so boring.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: If you had three notes total, I.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Believe, Yeah, like genuinely going from a movie that had
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: good action set pieces, a good character who like is
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: actually well developed, Like, I actually genuinely feel like I
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: understand Larakoff as a character watching this movie, from her
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: her upbringing to her belief system to you even said
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: it well, earlier. I really wanted to like just go
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of go back and shine a light on that for
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a second. Was the way that she has a respect
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and connection to the culture she visits, like in a
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: way that other explorer types like. I hate to keep
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: going back to Adian and Jones, but I think he's
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the most atypical and obvious example. Like you know, like
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the scene where he's eating something a little bit weird
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and like not from this northern Western culture. It's like
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: baffling and crazy. Whereas her she's like rolling into these
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: towns and she's taking part of their ceremonies and like
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: she's speaking to speaking their language. She knows people there,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: She's made connection, she's ben roots there.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like yeah, she is not.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Just going in raiding a tomb and leaving. She is
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: becoming a part of their culture. And like actually seems
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: like if she were to find something would not say
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: this belongs to the museum. She would say, this belongs
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: to the culture with which you were trying to steal.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: It from right right one hundred percent. And I think
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: that continues with the second film.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: One of the things I forgot to highlight about the
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: first film that continues in the second film is we
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: see principal photography in a different location and they really
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: highlight it. It's not the first time we've seen that.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like Street Fighter definitely did it, and I
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: think Mortal Kombat definitely did it where it was like
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: evident that this was shot in a different country. But
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: there's this reverence and there's this focus on some really
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: beautiful shots of each of these locations that continues in
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: the second movie. That being said, the thing that really
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: changes for the second movie as well is we took
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: this techno gun Fu Matrix two thousand's vibe and it's
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: all clean cut washed in this second film, isn't it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: One of the things that I highlighted that said this
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: movie is not really worth spending one hundred percent of
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: my focus on was, Yeah, Angelina Jolie has this like
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: fight scene. There's this goon with a sword and they
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: do the classic I've got a wooden weapon, You've got
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: a sword. The sword beats a wooden weapon. Angelina Joli
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: picks up in and one grand I believe is the
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: weapon and she kind of does like jogc like drill things.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: She twirls it and sets it and the entire time.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: She's able to fend him off with this.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: So we go from Angelina Joel.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Lee can like run or talk her way out of
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: a situation or escape her way out of a situation
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: with aero acrobatics too. She's now so invincible that she
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: can do amateur JROTC drill practice moves and beat someone up.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: She's invincible now, it's not there's no stakes in a
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: combat situation.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it almost feels like she's reached a level of
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: like superhuman in this one, where it's like she can
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: just sort of do anything she wants.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's very that's very James Bond from one understand,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: especially like some of the more cheesy maybe the Bras.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: And maybe some of the Roger Mills. That's not a
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: guy Roger Moore, thank you.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe that was like that era of like chey conversation
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: That was very much Roger's thing.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, gotcha, gotcha. And that's fine, but it's
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: not interesting.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: No, you know what it is? You know what, there's
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: a I think you're you're hitting on something really good.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I couldn't put my finger on. I think that just
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: sort of led me the way to go. It was
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the fact that in the first film what she did
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: seemed believable given the skills we'd seen her learn and employ,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Like she never did something where I was like whoa,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Like even and this is gonna sound crazy. The realism
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: in the fight with the weird statue creatures seemed like
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: it seemed believable. It seemed like, yeah, like if you
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: put her in that scenario, the skills we saw her
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: employ and how she like fought them and figured it out, like, Okay,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: they're made of stone, they break easily, like they're not
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: like super difficult. They just need to be like dodged
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and parried. And even the one with the giant one
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: like just shooting becuse it's still it's just stone has
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: a face. If you destroy the stone, it's gone. So like, yes,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: emtying the mag makes sense given what tools you have
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: at your disposal. Despite being a fantastical scenario, it was
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: believable versus the.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: First cheeky moments like that she ends the first movie
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: ice skating on her boots with dogs.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, but even that like that, I believe I believe
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: she has like water skied before or skied before, and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: has had a dog sled team before and complinding those
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: two skills isn't ridiculous, It's it's ridiculous in vision, but
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: like not out of the realm of possibility for her. Right,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: But then we get the first freaking major scene in
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: this movie second movie, where she purposely cuts herself so
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: she's bleeding in the water to arouse a shark that
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: she saw earlier, a Chekhov shark, then punches it in
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the nose and rides it to the surface. Yes, like,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: let's forget the fact that they've already disapproved the whole
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: blood with shark things like that. There's been experiments. That
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: isn't a real thing. It's a myth. The punching in
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the nose thing. I still think that might be a
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: real thing, although punching underwater is really difficult, but sure,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: let's say she's skilled enough to do that, right, But
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: that it then just runs away and lets you hold
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: onto it, and it decides to go up towards the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: surface for a reason. It's just that moment that was like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: literally the moment I was like, oh, this is not
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: going to be anywhere near as good as the first movie.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Isn't. No, absolutely, and it's repeated again.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: One of the few times I did tune in, there
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: was a huge, huge gun battle. You know, we were
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: talking like multitudes of henchmen with automatic rifles and she's
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: shooting back, and she got.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Out of it by.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Strategically sliding off of a one of those neon signs
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: that fell perfectly so she could slide down to her
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: destination get away vehicle. It's that level of ridiculous is
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: what we're taught about. And then on top of taking
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: away the stakes of action sequences, we almost I don't
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: want to use this term, it's kind of gross, but
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: it's the it's the only term I can think of.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: We almost neuter her, her the bad astery of this
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: character by setting up with a obvious romantic partner into
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: our butler ten minutes into the movie, ten to fifteen
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: minutes into the movie. It took the will they won't
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: the scoundrel serious knit like, yeah, he's an excell lover,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: but I got shited to do seriousness that she had
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: in the first movie, and it goes, well, this one's
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Scottish and pretty, you know, like she like like she
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: has this uneasy relationship with him, but it's like you
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: don't need him. I don't think you're pretty capable on
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: your own.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like I feel like if their relationship was
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: painted the same way the woman Daniel Craig in the
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: first movie was, where it's like, we have a history together,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: but it's not going to get in the way of
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: this mission. You are simply here because I need your
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: expertise for and yes you'll betray me, and there'll be
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a moment whatever, big wooho. But like the fact that
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: they like there is a moment where they do almost
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: sleep together, and it's only her having a realization that
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: stops them. Like again, it just feels like, I don't
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: want to make it seem like a female protagonist can
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: have a love interest and be like sexually attracted to somebody, right,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: it doesn't take away from them. But in this instance,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: it's literally undoing what we know of her from the
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: first movie in the way she treats.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: This Perton because it's so early on, it's such a
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, it's because it's it's there like seventy
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: five to eighty percent of the movie. Yeah, whereas in
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: the last movie it was like tacked on and he
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: showed up every now and then I would say his
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: screen time was probably total thirteen fifteen minutes.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe the previous guy.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah this is sidekick, Yeah yeah, he was in there
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: a lot man and early on.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, so with Flowercroft and the situation,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: handsome Scottish man.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's it's we lose out on her
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: other sidekicks as well, which we liked, the nerd and
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: the butler. They were turned but very much in the background.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: And I really like, honestly, so I'm with you. I
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: kind of like half paid attention by the end of
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: this because I was just like waiting for shit to
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: happen and nothing was happening.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, And like I remember a point where like
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: there's a joke at the end where it's like, oh,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: they're both being set up for like a marriage ritual
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: by this like local like indigenous culture. I'm like, when
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: did they get here? Why are they here? What's going on?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: The tone of their relationship is very Fool's Gold, which
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I know came later and is a good movie. I
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: remember watching the movie and thinking it was a good
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: rom com. That premise doesn't work in this movie. Having
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: fools Gold in the middle of a of this movie,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: whatever it is, doesn't work because we're also talking about
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Pandora's Box. We're talking about the origin of man and
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: a secret disease. Like Fool's Gold doesn't work in that context.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind the Fools Gold with guns. I think
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Fools Gold did have guns. I'm talking too much about
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Fool's Gold right now.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't even know the movie. I have to
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: look it up now.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's Matthew McConaughey and uh I forgot our name,
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: but they're a classic rom com duo and they're looking
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: for treasure.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: So it's it's this movie essentially. It's just there you go.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I wonder how it compared too bad. I didn't watch it.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Could have used this another comparison portance times. Yeah, I'm sorry,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: it's gonna bother me. It's no. It's Matthew mcconaughe and
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Kate Hudson. Is where you go? This movie just sort
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: of like it trailed off. Like really there's like the
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: one tomb esque rating scene in the very beginning, which
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: like I kind of like the idea that like this
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: other team shows up and like catches her off guard
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and actually like puts up a fight and makes you
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: go like, oh, this is gonna be a challenge for her,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: and then none of them were ever a challenge for her.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned that because I did have a
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: note where I was like, hey, where's the tombs and.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I forgot the Beard office building, science lab under mall.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Lots of cities. We we feature a lot of cities.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: So there is a tomb in the very beginning. Thank
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: you for letting me know that. And that's one very
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: very end. Oh that's barely a tune. That's a cave,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's it's like when I
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: think of twomb on top of that, I want booby traps,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I want statues coming. There's a terra Cotta warrior scene
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: in that first tone. I am remembering it now, But
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: the Terracotta warriors don't wake up. This is a trope.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like again, like they set up like they're like
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: there are these crazy thieves, Like I'd love to see
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: their hideout. That's like this crazy cave full of treasures
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: from other stolen cultures would have been so cool. Yeah,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the Final Temple being an actual like Greek pantheon esque
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: temple that would you know, be fitting to Pandora's Box
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: being laiden with some traps and some actual like getting there.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Instead we just get these weird like the gargoyle esque things.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I think they were also statue esque, but they're like
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: great dive into statues or something. I was like, I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: don't know what these things are.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great note and a great change, because
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: that is something else that is missing from the second movie.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: The first movie fell like a proto and I say
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: this because I don't know movies very well, but it
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: felt like a proto National Treasure, a proto Angels and
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Demons or did da Vinci code right? These mystery they
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: are thrillers that are like, hey, by knowing this and this,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: uh and picking up the statue of liberty, torture or
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: some shit, we find a secret key. Like it did
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: that in the first movie, which I think I expect
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: out of something called Tune Raider and looking at the
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: mysteries of ancient civilizations and so on and so forth.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: This one.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Had some of that because they were figuring out, like this,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: the mystery of Pandora's Box, but it I didn't catch
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: much of it.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: It didn't have the progression.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: It didn't have the progression of going from point A
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: to point B for this reason, to get to point
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: C to point D.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: As much as the first movie kind of was just
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: like Temple one, Temple two, Temple three were done, there
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: was a through line of like but there was a
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: through line of like, Okay, we have the key, the
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: key requires to be used a certain the way to
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: solve this puzzle. And then there's like a combat scenario
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: like it felt video gaming, but the way you want
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: to be rewarding, whereas this one was just we found
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: ORB that is a map, we figured out how to
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: decipher ORB or what brings us to place. There's the
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: thing we want there exactly, and then there's conversation. There's
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: like philosophical conversations from memory on what is in Pandora's box,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: But that's not what I want. Is we opened up
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Pandora's box and inside is nothing because the secret all along,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you know, like this was what I was was the
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: friends we made along the way, as she actually kills
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: her one friend she made along the way, which also
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: was just such a cheat, like again like you know
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: what I will choose killing Gerard Butler over just like
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: you know, taking him home. Uh in this in the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: context of this film, but it just felt very like,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: this is what you were setting up the whole time,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: is you were gonna have to betray he was going
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: to betray you. Eventually you have to kill him and
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you do the end big woop. Like there was no
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: attachment to him. There was no like, oh I'm surprised. Yeah, yeah,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: so we are the end of these two films. We
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: need to rate them. How rating the first film, the
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: first Tom.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Rader film, I think, uh, not knowing too much about
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: the video game series, I have to believe that it
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: is a good adaptation. She's British, she's Angelina Jolie, she
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: raids tombs. We got that bar. I think that's worthy
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: of two triangle boobies, right, Yes, yeah, I say that
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, can I say that?
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that's yes. I think at this point
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: it's it's reads like meme culture. We're not like sexualizing it.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: We're making fun of the fact that it was sexualized
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: at some point.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: You're not sexualizing it, I am.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: But I will side with you on this one. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: definitely think this movie checks all the boxes I wanted
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: from a letracraft two major film. It has action, it
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: has a good heroin, it has tombs being rated, it
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: has treasures, it has some level of misses them. It
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: has cool set pieces. I definitely want to give this
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I can't. I think a good system here the two
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: polygon moves is too powerful and can't beat it. We
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: just do it again, which is I'm gonna give it
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: two more polygon moobs like that a psp ad. They
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: had four boobs in.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: It, four boobs. So so pretty good film.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, if we really had to talk about it,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: the film is as good as any James Bond film
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: you've ever seen. But pretty good film, pretty good adaptation
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: for the first movie. Hey, that's a win in our
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: book for sure.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: One hundred. That is that is a thumbs up. That
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: is a goal star. That is a sound effective approval.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: This was this was a good video game adaptation movie.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like at some point we also have to
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: start putting like a little note, like a little asterisk
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: on our list of like good rating, but also it's
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: a good video game movie, like not just a good movie.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, now the second the second on that you
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: take the rains on.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: That, oh the second movie is if it wasn't made
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: clear up until now, it's a shit show. It's bad.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: It really does feel like just a cash grab of
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: a film, Like I understand why Angelina Joe turned down
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: a second a third film in the franchise after this one, right,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: and it very much. It feels formulaic in the way
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: where it really just was like, here's the puzzle pieces
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: to make a generic action movie with all the things
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: that generic people like, unless just slap this existing character,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: enfranchise onto it and do nothing with it. Yeah, no,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: this this is getting a should have stayed in the tube. Yeah.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one. That's a good one.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that. It's very close to two rater
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: movies outside of generically having Laura Croft pick up a
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: thing as a film.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: It's the most boring. We ripped a part.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Wing Commander, we hate, We really did not like Moral
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Combat Annihilation, maybe because it's more so just a nothing
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: film that I could not have any comments on. I
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: think it's at the bottom tier for me of all
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: the movies we've seen.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I will go back and say like Wing
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Commander as much as we ripped into it. That is
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: a movie I would put on for my friends while
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: getting drunk because it's funny.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: How bad it is? Yeah right, this is nothing. This
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: would lose you friends, people would not come back.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a nothing burger of This is the
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: plain white, untoasted bread of a film.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: And for that reason, I'm rating this film a John
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Voight out of Angelina Jolie. It's a John Voight. Take
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: that way.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: You will welcome back everyone to the mini game segment
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: of press play. Of course, Jason and I can't play
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: games on our own, although we no, wait, we do.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: We do a lot of gaming on our own. What
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: am I talking about? Yeah, but it's not nearly as fun.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Although you can check out a ocasional random live streams.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: We're gonna start trying to do once in a while
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: for these things for fun. Sometimes when we have time
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: and we figure out how streaming works properly. There's a
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: there is a there is like an hour long Pokemon
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: one somewhere on the Gatelyapers YouTube channel from our testing
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: that records.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that recorded that recorded and.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Uploaded and showed my feed the next day, and I
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, Anyways, enough about us, We're bored
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: you hear us all the damn time. I want to
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: introduce some guests. So from this very feed, a woman
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: of stem comedy and podcasting to extend an acronym to STEMP.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: It's Audre Stevenson.
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: Hello, I love this new acronym. I will be making
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: T shirts which is just STEMP. Yes, it's just just
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: the old T shirts. There aren't old T shirts. And
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: I'll just write on the additional letters, just them on.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Like literally the scotch tape and sharpie type thing.
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: Yes, DIY culture is alive and.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Well, we're very aware of it. That was a great
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: episode of Pandemonium. Speaking of Pandemonium, all of y'all should
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: hopefully have just heard the amazing Live Star Wars episode,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: which means you already know and love and if you
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: don't love him, apparently all is gonna come chase you down.
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Our second guest an improv comic by the name of
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Julia boise I.
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: I'm Julia.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Julia, Thank.
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: You, Drew. I'm excited to be here.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: I am already loving this little podcasting family that you
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: all have.
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: It's really fun.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: Too, and that warms my heart.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Oh they they they sucked me into this family so quick,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: and I am never leaving that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: We did that, we did. We won't let you. We
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: would if you wanted to, we would let you.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: We would let you, but we would really guilt you
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit like.
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: We would we would feel sad.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Me and Drew are in a Google doc together and
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: he's passive, aggressively prompting me.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I was just reminding you, letting you know where I
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: was in the feed, so you didn't know where it
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: was wondering.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: I just want you guys to know that I'm stone
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: cold sober. It's just really fucking early for me, and
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: I haven't had coffee.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: Oh here, you're so sorry.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I think you get my fucking life together. Hold on, boys, are.
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: You also a little hungover?
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: I've never really been hung over my life. But I
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: did stay up later, like I stayed up till like
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: two last night, just off of the energy from yesterday.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I suppose I don't.
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: Know sugar metabolizes.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. And I
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: need to go to the gym and all this other stuff.
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: You know, who does go to the gym Laura Craft.
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: Laura, she's always at the freaking.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Gym mask to keep all that through life for that
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: to makes sense.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: And that's no, that is peak podcasting.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: Me.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. But now we're gonna keep
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: it because of one little joke.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Hold on, we're taking it from the top. I cannot
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: Okay, we can start from the top. I'll just make
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: the same joke later.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Audre Julian, thank you so much for coming on in.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're super stoked to do some games with you guys.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: I'm also very appreciative that you guys are doing this
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: episode because in the Fandoms cast, we have a bunch
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: of volunteers who want to be part of certain video games.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: It's only ever dudes whoever chat and no dude wanted
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: to be part of this episode. So I'm so appreciative
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: that you guys are here.
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: And I got opinions.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels really right that you guys are here.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Can I ask though, because it's a big ass like,
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: are you guys familiar with Flahercraft obviously like one of
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: the most iconic female video game characters ever, movie wise
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: or video game wise, are you guys familiar.
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: I am a bit familiar, just tangentially. I watched the
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: movies The Angelina Jolie once. I watched those when they
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: came out, and then later after they came out, I
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: watched them again because I was like, hell, yes, they
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: were something my family did not want me watching. I
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: thought it was because of the supernatural elements. I think
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: they secretly just knew I was bisexual and wanted he
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: did not watch the movies. But here we are today,
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: can't stop you can't stop me.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: They were worried they would worry the triangular boobs would
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: get to you, Audre, and.
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: Clearly, yeah, it clearly did. I got a pack of
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: like white tank tops. Obviously the styles iconic.
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: Oh you have enough hair.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: That you could have done the really intense like uh
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: huh the braid.
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: Okay, now I know my Halloween costume.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think as playing Laircroft totally
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: would work.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Audri cossplaying Laircraft, Matt cosplaying Nathan Drake. Very cute, honestly.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Very couples costume, honestly cute, but you'd.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: Have to do British accent. Does that feel comfortable for you?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: It will feel comfortable for me. It won't feel comfortable
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: for anyone who.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Has I would have to do not a British accent,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: just like in the movies when they randomly saw everyone's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: accents for no reason.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: Yes, it's all, it's all coming together.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: It's only June, Julie. Are you familiar with Tom Raider?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: So?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: I think I even mentioned it in the Star Wars thing.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: I only know. I didn't even know it was based
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: on a video game when I saw the movies, which
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: I saw and I was like, oh, action movie. And
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: then after I realized I was bisexual, I saw them
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, young Angelina Julie. So I've
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: seen them, but not from the standpoint of like this
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: is based off video game.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: Uh so so you're familiar with the movie?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Though I think it's something I can think that we've
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: touched on in this podcast before, is the importance of
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: how like how these are such video game ass movies,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: but like sometimes they do break that mold and can
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: still just be good movies that people enjoy regardless of
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: whether or not they know of or play the games.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Good movie is a bit of a stretch.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: True good movies. Other movies.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: Oh certainly. Oh yeah, the other other video game movies. Yeah, No,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: in the realm of within the genre. Yeah, it's a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: standout in the genre.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it is a standout in the genre. That's true.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: So I have invited you here under some false pretenses.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: This isn't just a fun chat about the movie. I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: am going to force you to play a little bit
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: of a game. Sort of. No, and the game is
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Jason and I will be taking the role of video
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: game tycoons. And after a scrooge esque visit from Three
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Pac Ghosts last night, we've both now seen the error
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: of our ways. Making video games just for boys is bad.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: So we've elected to solve this by asking a pair
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: of nulgeable women, too, woman, explain to us how to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: fix video games.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: M M.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: I don't think I ever got to tell you my
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: experience with video games as someone whose mom plays that
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: it led to violence in real life. Or I don't know,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: maybe she just didn't want me to be less feminine.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: It could be either.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: So I had a GameCube later than most and the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: two games I had were, uh, some Mario Kart, yeah
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: that's normal, and Shrek too.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: The video game tie ins the movie video game tians
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: are so good.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And I feel like the Shrek ones weirdly have like
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: a good following like of the video game ti in
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: movies are the ones people keep telling me like, oh no,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: they're actually like decent games for the most part.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: Well as someone with like no other nothing else all
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: from it felt good.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I liked it.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I almost want a series now of like getting Julia
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: through the history of video games to see if we
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: can ever top Shrek two is a game? And how
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: long it?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: Is it the memory of Shrek two? Or like would
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: you have me play Shrek two now?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Is like the actual like that would be the finale
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: of the series. We'll make a mini series out of
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: this and that'll be a finale. We'll do that. We'll
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: put them on the back order for one day.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Real, Yeah, I have.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: I mean I've played video games as an adult, like
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: indie games and stuff. My boyfriend got me into them,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: so I've been a little bit tainted.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: But you know, I was so pure, And I will
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: say we had a parallel situation because I grew up
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: we had a Sega genesis, and so I grew up
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: the big three in my household was Bubbsy, which was.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: A sonic ripoff.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: The other one was road Rash Too, which was like
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: a pixely little like racing game on motorcycles and you
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: could have different weapons and like attack people on the road.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: And then the third one, I think was just called
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: Exodus and it was just your Moses and it was
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: like the story of Exodus and you had to you
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: had to get the people out of Egypt.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: Is that parents let you have it? Yeah, the Exodus.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: Because there was a religious game and the loading screens
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: were Bible versus and so that was that was the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: extent of gaming in my youth. So we have a
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: parallel we have a parallel situation.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's I think that's unfortunately echoed
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: with a lot of people. And so my question for
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: you guys, and I think you guys are experts in
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: this field, is in today's modern world, how would we
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: make gaming more inclusive or more inviting.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: To two other folks.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: I think my opinion on this is I do really
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: enjoy gaming now, and I just try to be as
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: open and boisterous about it as possible because I think
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: like as a community, gaming has not learned how to
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: interact with anyone who is female presenting or who like
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: would be taken in that regard, and it makes it
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 6: less of a place that people want to be because
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: they haven't been forced to know how to deal with
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: someone who presents as a woman. So my advice is
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: for people in gaming to.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: I don't know, meet women. Step one. Interesting.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: I let that you took it because I was thinking
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: like game development, and I was going to say, more
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: realistic titties, Oh, but yours makes way more sense in
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: terms of like the actual like probably, no.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: No, no, let's go with this thought process. Tell me this.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: I will say this is a comedy podcast, and I
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: went into a very non comedy space, and so I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: just thank you.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't think it's not funny to say,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: meet real women.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: I think that's very funny.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I but like, weirdly, like I was, I was also
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: going to go the joke out there and response to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Julian and be like, have you seen modern video games
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: like they have? But you're right, they're not realistic. They're
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: like bombastically cartoony tits.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: But the physics is, honestly where it is pushing more
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: women in stem That's what we need to perfect that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: physics as well.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: Enough polygons for tits so so more realistic tits and
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: meet some women.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I think the two go together quite well in a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: lot of worlds. Yes, but hey, if that's what's gonna
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: get women into gaming, and yet gaming spaces more friendly
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: to women, I'm on board with that. I'm not gonna
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: argue that one.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's my opinion.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: I just think that, like, cause there are women involved
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: in gaming, so many, so so many. Like there were
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: some things in Last of Us where they're like, this
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: is horrific, like this, this part of this game is
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: so intense, like you're gonna get rid of women in
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: this space. And it was like a woman wrote that part.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: That was her idea, and she wrote it, and then
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: like another woman did the mo cap and did the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: voice acting like it.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Like this this was this was entirely crafted by women.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: Like yeah, the whole part that you think is going
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: to be too intense and you're not gonna have women
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: in the space.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: That's what they want in the space.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: They want all the same range of gaming, all the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: same range of experiences, almost as though they have equal humanity.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: I think CEO should have heard a long time ago. Yep.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: I think that speaks to something as because to Julia's point,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: as a man, I've never demanded better dick physics out
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: of my game, you know, Like that's not something that
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: I'm climbing at the bit for. And that's probably because
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: I've been catered to in some way, shape or form.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, someone that I was friends with in my youth,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: they had like the memory cards for their PlayStation, and
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: they used to have characters on them, and one of
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: them was just like the top half of tomb Raider
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: and like the sculpted head and tits and like down
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: to the waist. And I think a good idea, let's
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: bring back memory cards and just have it be upside down.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 7: Just have a man, it's just.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: Just a memory Drake, Nathan Drake upside down.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's not gonna fix anything, guys, it's.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Not gonna do. People to deal with USBs now where
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: it's like the back end of a dog type thing
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: in the USB. Yeah, like that for the next generation
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: of memory cards. Just like Nathan Drake's like acid legs
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: hanging down from the front of the console, like articulated legs,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: so they dangle properly.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: The legs where gateleapers have we gone where we're like,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: oh dude, bring back the Atari, but have just a
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: deal though for the joystick.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Let me suck on my joystick while playing. That's inclusive.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 7: That's you education.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: That is someone's fetish out there. I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: Yep, it already exists. We didn't invent that.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Oh I think after that game res included a literally
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: a little black square you plugged into the second controller
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: port that just vibrated in tune with the music and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: was just called the res vibrator.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: What.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's a real thing.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: Not how you get women into gaming.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: No, no it is not. Although I have her choice,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: good for them.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like people have to already be gaming
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: to know about that.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, a little on the niche side.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah I did not know.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of already gaming, my turn to ask a question.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Is there a game from your childhood that either you
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: played or knew about that you would like to see
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: like Redone today in a way that wouldn't be so
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: boys clubby If I could use.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: The term your tech ceo tech CEOs.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: That we are, Yes, that's the role we were playing today.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: I have a pitch for you today. I would like
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 7: to pitch road Rash three.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait the one you played with road Rash two. Yes,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: oh there was a one way.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: There was there was a one Come on, are you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: even into video gaming if you don't know road Rash one,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: two and now three? In road Rash two there was
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: one girl's bike and it was the pink bike obviously,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: And now I I want to make this any color
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: bicycle can be for anyone.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 7: That's what I want.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: But I do want the weapons to be even more
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: violent than before.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: So gender neutral bikes, but more aggressive weaponry.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: Yes, And that's how I think we're gonna fix video gaming.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: I want to keep the types of things where you
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: could like use a chain to like pull someone off
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: of their bicycle, but I also want you to be
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: able to throw their mother's words at them.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: That's what I see, and I think that's gonna if.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: I think that's gonna make everybody feel more like equally attacked.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Physical attack and mental.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: Attacks, emotional psychological warfare.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: That's what I think is going to make. I think
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: this is going to help level the playing field. Is
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: if we start using both physical and psychological damage because
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: I think that that's something that everyone across the spectrum
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: can relate to that, and so I think that if
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: that removed people from their bikes in this racing game,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 6: I think that's I don't remember what the is that
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to get more women into gaming.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: I forgot.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you're making the game more inclusive. You're
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: making even the combat more inclusive.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: I mean the prompt is whatever you want at this yes,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: and so I think that that's gonna make gaming less
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 6: of a boys club.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: M I just I need to paint the mental image
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: I got in my mind when you describe this, I'm assuming,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: for some reason my head, every game's like Mario Karts.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: You're going through item boxes and the little roulette is
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: going and it's like Spiked Club Missile Launcher. Mom's guilty
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: by not coming to Christmas that one year, three years ago.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm, and you just spin. It is still pixel art.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: The it is the retro cute art style like it
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: was at the time of Road Rash too. It was
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: just the art style. But now it's gonna be retro,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: but it's going to be in that same style. It's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: gonna look like Stardu Valley, the Racing the violent racing game.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like throwing Starduo Valley on anything. It's just
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: like every company's attempt to bring women to gaming at
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: this point. Yes, yes, oh I love this her. Road
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Rash three. Unfortunately road Rash three exists, so does road
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Rash three D. Road Rash sixty four. Road Rash jail
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Break apparently was the last one. Yeah, that one was
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: from the year two thousand, in twenty five years, because
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: we've had a road Rash game, so bring it back.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: So assuming we can't use road Rash three, do you
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: have a subtitle? You give this one.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: Instead road Rash four?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: You know what that works? That works so well.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they don't have that.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: They didn't have that.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 7: Trying to come up with a pun. It wasn't coming
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: to me.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I like that. I think even the video
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: game meenis of just like putting a four on a game.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: It hasn't been out in like thirty years. We were like, yes, one.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: It's like when I found out that the Witcher game
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: that I had been playing was the third one.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: I was like, oh, this is the third one, gotcha.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And look at that, we're getting a fourth one with
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: a female protagonist that the Internet for some reason can't
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: stand because she's not perfectly hot. Fuck them, it's idiots.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: Fuck em. I'm gonna play a day one.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: That trailer made me cry, Fuck them, Fuck the haters.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Julia, I'm curious, where are we going with
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: year round of this one?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, you played a strip in the strip, and I'm
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: thinking one if there's like a fun mode where you
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: could play Dragon and just like stomp over everything, and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: then that's the fun part of being Dragon.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 7: Oh okay, I genuinely love this.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: I don't know if if we're supposed to be competing
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: against each other, we're not, because.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Your competition is the male species.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 7: Unfortunately, as it always is. It's good to be in
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: familiar territory.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: I love this because I think that the root one
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: thing that a lot of video games do is they'll
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: just be like, Okay, we'll do the like the secondary
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: character that's a woman. We'll make it the love interest
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: of the story to be like the main character. No,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: we're doing Dragon. Dragon. Big Dragon is the main character
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: of this story. There's nothing about it that's gonna be
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: like the We're not gonna question the strength of Dragon
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: in any regard.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: I love this because I get I was very like
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: I was ready for you to just say, like you
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: plays Fiota like that seems like that would be the easy,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: stupid CEO answer. But no, no, no, you one uped us.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: I like this.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: I want Dragon.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: I mean I feel like that was the first movie
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: slash Space where I felt like, oh, those short kings
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: are hot, Like as a very tall adolescent, that was
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: good for me to know.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Now I just need to ask them clarification. We're ready
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: to shrek Terrytyer when you say short kings are hot
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Donkey Okay, So I was gonna say the movie has
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: a short king in the movie. Oh I was being literal.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: No, I was talking about the relationship between Donkey and Dragon,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: and I love yeah. So yeah, just like you know
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: that that kind of dynamic can work.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: And the Fiona story is very much so I'm going
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: to it has other elements, but there is the like
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: rescued princess element of it. Dragon had her own full
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: life and she continues to have her own full life
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: where she has goals and aims as well, and so
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: it's a better it's also a better character arc.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: So we get the untold story of this badass bitch
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: queen boss girl, the Dragon and her real life that
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: happens while we're busy following Trek on his adventures.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: Yes, turns out there was a more interesting story going
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: on time. Yeah.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I also I almost want to be like pedantic and say,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: like all the Shrek parts of the game were like
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: super complicated and unfund and then you're rewarded with a
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: really fun just like have a great time level with
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: the Dragon.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Also, it's sexy armor proof.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: It's like a character where you can't do over sexualized armor.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: And honestly, I'm not opposed to sexy armor. I was
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: gonna say, I do think it's great, but I think
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: that there's some people who like will prioritize it.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 7: And this is really about the narrative of Dragon.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: I'll make some fan ar I'll put some sexy armor
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: on that dragon that doesn't need armor to begin with.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 7: I'll do it, Okay.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: That is always one of those things in like the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: fandom spaces where it's like, let me take this character
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: that traditionally doesn't wear clothing and put close sexy clothing
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: on them to make them more sexy. It's like they're naked.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they're already sexy.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: That's the sexiest thing you can wear it self.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: It makes it would I feel armor on Dragon would
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: make her like less suitable in combat because it's like,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: I'm not used to wearing clothes. I'm already armored, and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: so this isn't adding more armor to me, it's just
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: reducing my physical capability in the space.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: Dragon was evolved to be warrior. Huh, So like she's good,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: she's good.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: It's honestly, if she wore armor, it would only be
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: for somebody else so that they felt a certain way,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: and so if she wears armor, it would have to
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: be for her.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I understand this. I made the r already and I apologize.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 7: They see we need.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: That's something else that we need in the gaming space
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: is people would be more comfortable saying when they've changed
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: their mind or just I'm sorry, yeah, sorry, like and
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: that's fine, that's good.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Are going back to your your your road rash for
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: that's how you like avoid getting hit by certain weapons
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: you have an i'm sorry equipment, yes, just.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 7: And it's just always a good thing.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: It's like, hey, I'm sorry I did hurt you, and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: It stops them dead in their tracks and you just
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 7: keep going.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Wow, I feel so free now now my corporate
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: evil ceo mind is the crossover potential if you can
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: race as dragon.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Oh road was always in the Trek universe. It turns
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: out and nobody knew.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh, where's Moses in this?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: I think Donkey is helping get people through.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the rede Yeah, through the wilderness, and it's through
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: the wilderness.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Yea, the Red Sea. Yes, yes, oh my god, Well
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: the two of you, thank you for helping enlighten gaming.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like going forward, any tech ceo here's this
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: is gonna know. They need to change their ways hopefully
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: and you will be the guiding light that sends them
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: into a new writer.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: Future meet women do jokes.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Wait, look at the art that I drew.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: Wait is that a bikini?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Stop?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Hold on, yeah, this is only for the patrons.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: As long as there's equal opportunity sexy armor, go for it.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: But like, uh huh, yeah, yeah, that's one of those jokes.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: I'd love to see.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: You have to draw Donkey in a speedo cod piece.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Give me nine seconds, good banana hammock on that Donkey
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I also love the idea now of like I want
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: to see a game do that one day where they
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: have like a DLC sexy armor, but when you equip it,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: one character at autocips to all of your characters. So like, yes,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: if you if you want to see the chicken the
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: nice bikini, you've also got to see the guy in
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: the nice bikini.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: Deal with it, and maybe maybe not I'll shed a
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: little bit of light on what you're doing.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or there's probably some people out there. I can't
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: think of any specifically. He'd be totally fine with that
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: on all their characters.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: I can't imagine. Yeah, I can't be.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: I feel less good about this art.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 7: Cody.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't draw his that's crazy. I just
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: drew a piece of clothing over the penis.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 7: Uh huh see.
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  Speaker 6: And this is why it's important, because if it feels weird.
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  Speaker 7: That way, it's weird the other way.
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  Speaker 1: I think that is the lesson we end on. I
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  Speaker 1: love it. Oh my god, thank you both so much
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  Speaker 1: for joining us today for this game and this enlightening conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Audre some plugs, where can people find you?
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  Speaker 5: What do you?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Days?
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  Speaker 6: You can check out the rest of the feed here.
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  Speaker 6: You can check out the Pandemonium episodes for more games.
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  Speaker 6: You can see Drew Jason and Julia Bosi on those episodes,
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  Speaker 6: including the one that just came out. You can also
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  Speaker 6: check out Bonus Round, which has some additional things based
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  Speaker 6: on the shows, some things we didn't get to during
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  Speaker 6: those episodes, and a mail bag. If you want to
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  Speaker 6: email me in any muses, I will read them out.
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  Speaker 6: If you give me directions of the style that you
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  Speaker 6: want me to read the muses in, I will do it.
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  Speaker 6: I am in the process of killing shame, so if
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  Speaker 6: you send me impressions that I can't do, that's fine.
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  Speaker 7: I'll still I'll still fucking go for it.
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  Speaker 6: So you can email in those muses to Gateleapers at
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  Speaker 6: gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 7: This is a long plug.
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  Speaker 6: You can also find us on Patreon, Patreon dot com,
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  Speaker 7: That's what I've got going on.
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  Speaker 1: Before I throw it to Julia, I'm just gonna say
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  Speaker 1: I watched Julia's face as you were discussing these ending
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  Speaker 1: in muses, and I think there's some ideas staking there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's fun.
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  Speaker 1: And Julia, where can our listeners now that they've heard
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  Speaker 1: you twice? On this feed, and there can be like,
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  Speaker 1: I need more of this in my life. Where can
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  Speaker 1: they find you?
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  Speaker 4: They can find me on the Peak Improv Theater podcast feed,
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  Speaker 4: which has Tuned Titans, a musical improv show that Audra
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: and Matt help record and produce for us, as well
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  Speaker 4: as quite a bit of episodes of Laughter and Legends
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  Speaker 4: are improvised D and D podcast, where I am a
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: guest on.
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  Speaker 7: It's very fun.
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  Speaker 4: Instead of combat normal, we do improv games against the audience.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so fun because a lot of those I love.
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  Speaker 6: I watch so much actual play, but the combat can
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  Speaker 6: get a little crunchy. Yeah, And so being able to
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  Speaker 6: be in that space and do competitive improv games at
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: an improv theater, it's so much fun.
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  Speaker 7: It's so good. Oh yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then also just if you're in Colorado, Springs, Colorado,
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  Speaker 4: come on by Peak Improv Theater. You can find any
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: information on shows that are playing, classes, that are going
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: on workshops.
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  Speaker 7: Even at Peak Improv dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: I hear they have some of the best new up
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  Speaker 1: and coming comics and improv comedians coming out and doing
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  Speaker 1: some early shows share their talents.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, best, I love it. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 6: were by. Now that's my new house.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's right next to your to your current house.
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  Speaker 4: Two houses for the price incredible, only in Colorado Springs.
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  Speaker 7: Heck yeah, this has.
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  Speaker 1: Been an advertisement for the tourist port of Colorado.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Garden of the Gods is one of our primary sponsors,
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  Speaker 6: the Pioneer Museums, Olympics Olympics.
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  Speaker 7: We're Olympic City US.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a Chapehos mall. You might get shot, that's like.
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  Speaker 7: Or you can go to school there. They have schools.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have charter schools there, America.
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  Speaker 7: That does not surprise me.
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  Speaker 1: America. Oh you crazy Americans. You well, thank you everyone
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  Speaker 1: for coming in and I hope you all enjoyed a
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  Speaker 1: fun little time and hopefully we'll see the two of
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: you back on for some future episodes.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: Yes, please lovely time.
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  Speaker 3: And with that concludes another chapter in our journey through
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  Speaker 3: the history of video game movies. Thanks for joining us
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  Speaker 3: on the couch here at press play, whether your thumbs
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• 1:25:43
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• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: social media like that, but Drew, where can people find you?
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  Speaker 1: You can find me at box list on Blue Sky
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  Speaker 1: and remember a blow on your cartridge.