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Why Do Black People Hold On To The Pain Of Racism So Tightly??? · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: Truth to you, and I'm willing to know because I
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  Speaker 1: think it's again, this is why it goes. It's spiritual
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  Speaker 1: because I like to look at history. When you look
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  Speaker 1: at Hitler, bro Hitler, if you look at mind komp
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  Speaker 1: he thought he was bringing back the Roman Empire who
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  Speaker 1: was brutalizing everybody that didn't look like them. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: and so we see this over the time of history,
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  Speaker 1: so white supremacist that he ain't doing nothing new, just
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  Speaker 1: doing what they did.
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  Speaker 2: But they've always done that. It's spiritual. Yes, that's not spiritual,
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  Speaker 2: that's fucking evil. But yes, because there's evil spirits. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: there's evil spirits.
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  Speaker 1: I get that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know this is kind of circles back to how we started.
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  Speaker 4: Like the difference between white and black people. I think
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  Speaker 4: there is an inherent different not just in the case,
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  Speaker 4: and like I can't really explain it, but like books
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  Speaker 4: like the Celestine Prophecy kind of touches on it with
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  Speaker 4: their lack of melanin and so because of that, it's
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  Speaker 4: like they try to extract energy from us. So it's
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  Speaker 4: it's almost like and this is obviously a generalization, general realization.
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  Speaker 4: There are some white folks that are allies and people
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  Speaker 4: that I consider true friends, but on a whole, as
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  Speaker 4: a community and as the destruction that white folks have
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  Speaker 4: done to the world. The way that they move is
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  Speaker 4: different than the way melanated people move, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. It's just history, and the reason behind it
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  Speaker 4: is probably somewhat tied to some of these theories. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know that for sure, but you know, I think
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  Speaker 4: there's something there.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's way. It's way easier than this, bro.
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  Speaker 5: If we could talk about four hundred years of slavery
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  Speaker 5: and the Black American experience here, if we can talk
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  Speaker 5: about the experience of people that have gone through slavery
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  Speaker 5: in your country, right, imagine being on top since the
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  Speaker 5: beginning of all of this, since the Caucaus Mountains. Imagine
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  Speaker 5: leaving the Caucasus Mountains. Y'all, the niggas got trees down there?
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  Speaker 5: Why were you up paying the fucking mountains?
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  Speaker 2: Fuck them niggas go down there and you take the
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  Speaker 2: shit and then you build some shit over there. But Jay,
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  Speaker 2: they got buffalo running in the oh. But who the
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  Speaker 2: fuck is them Irish niggas over there?
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  Speaker 6: The fuck them niggas, Get them them shits over there
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  Speaker 6: and you that's who you have been your entire life.
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  Speaker 2: Your entire existence is the top of the food chain.
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  Speaker 2: There's just a different knowledge of self. It's just a
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  Speaker 2: different existence.
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  Speaker 1: Like you know.
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  Speaker 3: In the Caucasians.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, they were absolutely not at the top of
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  Speaker 4: the food chains until maybe fourteen hundreds APE. It was
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  Speaker 4: always people of color. It was it was like Asians
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  Speaker 4: and blacks, like around those from christ from zero BC
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  Speaker 4: to like the fourteen hundreds, it was a mixture of
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  Speaker 4: Chinese and Asian empires that rule like right.
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  Speaker 5: For so, then why don't the Asians do that thing?
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  Speaker 5: Do they do they move like white people?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: But if they was at the begin at the top
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  Speaker 3: all the time, then what's the difference.
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  Speaker 5: But I also think that how I think the movement
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  Speaker 5: also comes from the closeness that's tied to the religion
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  Speaker 5: that each race is kind of closely tied to.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the religion part of it.
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  Speaker 5: I think that also brought a lot of violence too,
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  Speaker 5: because you know, they not only killed black people, they
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  Speaker 5: kill white people as well too. It was like a thing, right,
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  Speaker 5: and it was like you know, all of those those
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  Speaker 5: scientific people when I forgot his name, but the guy
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  Speaker 5: that discovered that the universe didn't revolve around Earth, it
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  Speaker 5: revolved around the Sun, like when that first got presented,
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  Speaker 5: or they killed a boatload of those people just because
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  Speaker 5: it didn't a line up with what they had already had,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So if we already have
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  Speaker 5: something that we're trying to sell and you are coming
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  Speaker 5: talking about some science, respectfully, we're about to get you
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  Speaker 5: out of gain because you're not lining up with what
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  Speaker 5: we already had set up. But you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 5: because of other people was able to verify the information,
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  Speaker 5: they had to change course, and they they kind of
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  Speaker 5: just had to be like, I mean, yeah, we killed
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  Speaker 5: mad people, but my bad, they was right type shit.
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  Speaker 5: So they've always that's always been a part of the
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  Speaker 5: deck for them, I would say.
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  Speaker 4: And I want to add like Europeans have rewrote history.
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  Speaker 4: They literally came in the twelve hundreds and thirteen hundreds,
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  Speaker 4: burned spiritual cities in Middle East and Northern Africa, burned
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  Speaker 4: all the books and literally rewrote history and acted like
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  Speaker 4: the Greeks and the Romans were responsible for all of
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  Speaker 4: the mathematics and science and law and order, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean? And they and you know, as you
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  Speaker 4: can see in Egypt, they tried to destroy the noses.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean. Yeah, it's a thing.
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  Speaker 5: It's like whoever wins the war gets to control history exactly,
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  Speaker 5: whoever wins the battle.
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  Speaker 1: Think it goes to kind of what I think. It's
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  Speaker 1: the cure to me is love. And when I say love,
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  Speaker 1: I agree, I'm going to ask you what does love
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  Speaker 1: look like to someone that isn't black?
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  Speaker 3: And in what way?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Because yeah, honestly a love for okay, better said, I
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  Speaker 1: believe love. God is love. He does not have love.
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  Speaker 1: God is love, Love is who he is. And so
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  Speaker 1: if love is a love without bounds, a love without condition,
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  Speaker 1: and so there's nothing that you can do to earn
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  Speaker 1: what I do for you. Love acts because of the
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  Speaker 1: love that one is. And so I say that to say,
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  Speaker 1: how do you have an unconditional love? Or just a question,
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  Speaker 1: how do you wrestle with that to somebody whose lineage
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  Speaker 1: have brutalized your people?
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  Speaker 5: I can't have unconditional love, not with them.
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  Speaker 3: I can't. I can't.
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  Speaker 2: You asking me if I can love them unconditionally, No,
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  Speaker 2: I cannot. I will not that's a choice, and the feeling,
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  Speaker 2: it's an emotion. There's no way I can trust white
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  Speaker 2: people enough to love them unconditionally. You have to prove
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  Speaker 2: your love for me. You have to prove your alignment
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  Speaker 2: with me. You have to prove your alignment with my.
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  Speaker 5: People for me to even think about loving you or
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  Speaker 5: liking you or tolerating you.
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  Speaker 1: That's a fact. I'm with whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with whatever, right but I'm not just gonna like
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  Speaker 2: And when I say whatever, that means love or hate,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm willing to meet you in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: Of the field.
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  Speaker 2: You don't see what's going on in this country right now.
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  Speaker 2: They at war with us, monigger. They dead ass they
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  Speaker 2: and were not even bothering that. We're just trying to
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  Speaker 2: get through college. Were literally just trying to get healthcare.
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  Speaker 6: There's regular people out here that's just trying to make
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  Speaker 6: it to okay.
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  Speaker 3: And you got these people looking like they want to
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  Speaker 3: be okay.
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  Speaker 5: Get them what. I ain't got time for love. I
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  Speaker 5: don't even know how. And this is what I was
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  Speaker 5: talking about with black men. Why did we got time
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  Speaker 5: to be worried about loving them?
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  Speaker 3: We ain't even take it with.
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  Speaker 1: All due expect We got to spend more time on
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  Speaker 1: loving each other, especially black men, especially black men. We
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  Speaker 1: got to spend more time on celebrating our skin, our people,
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  Speaker 1: our ourselves in order to be able to love our
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  Speaker 1: women and our children and build our communities. Fuck them,
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  Speaker 1: they the last thing on the list, especially when I
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  Speaker 1: said they attacking us, Bro, everything about us and you,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's I don't want to say surprising, but as
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  Speaker 1: a dark dark you't the darkest man in this room
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  Speaker 1: to be saying why can't we love or how do
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  Speaker 1: we love them? It's at something I just can't identify
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  Speaker 1: because I look at it, like how do you? I
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  Speaker 1: believe the way to love yourself is learning to love
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  Speaker 1: somebody that does not deserve your love. That is true
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  Speaker 1: love for yourself, because I don't deserve the love of God.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, Bro. I've done some crazy stuff in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I've done some things that I wish I would take back, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: But I've been able to receive a love that don't
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  Speaker 1: make sense. And so from that place of surrender and humility, BRO,
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  Speaker 1: like I like. It's a choice to love. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to like you, like, Bro, I don't again self
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  Speaker 1: love is like if you talk to me crazy, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna handle it. That's self love to myself. But when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to training or training myself too, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to act in line with this person based on their
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  Speaker 1: They're made in the image of God. That's all I need.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I need to love them. That does not
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  Speaker 1: mean to yippy, but it means to see them with
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  Speaker 1: a person with dignity and give them a chance.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that, and so that that's more godly. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's more like of Jesus and what he's speaking. Absolutely, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I agree, No, I agree with that. I think for me,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with some of what you said.
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  Speaker 5: I think that for me, I think as a black person,
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  Speaker 5: I think it's very important to not turn into the
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  Speaker 5: things that we hate, right, And I think we fall
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  Speaker 5: into that sometimes. And I think to your point, right,
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  Speaker 5: those people that we were talking, that we were speaking
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  Speaker 5: about that are on the other side, it's like, damn, like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't want my dislike for them or how they
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  Speaker 5: move to turn for that to turn in sorry for
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  Speaker 5: that to turn me into them. So now I'm doing
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  Speaker 5: and moving like the people that I said I didn't like.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying so I try to separate it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have to. I don't have to go out
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  Speaker 5: my way, but I don't have to become you, right,
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  Speaker 5: I don't have to be hateful. I don't have to
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  Speaker 5: go out my way to you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 5: do other shit, and I can just be okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, question for you, because again it's a huge problem
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  Speaker 1: again white supremacy. For supremacy is one thing, but my
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  Speaker 1: thing is not becoming the thing that we hate. If
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  Speaker 1: that thing has been a through line throughout history. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about the Romans and if you stayed Roman Empire,
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  Speaker 1: they used to brute a lot. It's not in American
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  Speaker 1: white people. That thing is a spirit on how you
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  Speaker 1: you try to brutalize the whole people group. Get them
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  Speaker 1: out because they're like if you are there's stories in
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  Speaker 1: the Bible about Pharaoh. If you have an Egyptian, they
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  Speaker 1: come up, Hey, kill them all, kill them all, get
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  Speaker 1: them out Like that is a that's something that stands
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  Speaker 1: the test of time. And so if you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be like you hate, when I hear that, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like good, that's evil. You don't want to be an
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  Speaker 1: evil person. But I don't want to attach a label
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  Speaker 1: to somebody's skin to it. That's that's kind of my.
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  Speaker 5: Position, and I get that, and I think for me,
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  Speaker 5: for me, everything goes back to being human, like the
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  Speaker 5: color and where we're from. That is like second and third,
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  Speaker 5: it's all about being human beings at the end of
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  Speaker 5: the day, because that's what we all are. You know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. It's not like you're we're other entities.
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  Speaker 5: We're human first. That's the first thing that we are
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  Speaker 5: as human, and then all the other stuff follows. So
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  Speaker 5: I think if you if you look at love from
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  Speaker 5: that perspective, it's easy to look at people that are
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  Speaker 5: not like you and you know, be able to have
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  Speaker 5: some type of grace and dignity because you're looking from
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  Speaker 5: a human level. And we start talking about major events
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  Speaker 5: and different things that pull us together, like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: when this shit is all over, we're not going to
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  Speaker 5: be arguing about who's black, who's white, who got money?
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  Speaker 5: Now where the world is over, she goes out the window.
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  Speaker 5: Now it's gonna be like, yo, are you us?
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  Speaker 2: No, me, let me put a pause in this right,
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  Speaker 2: because I got an idea of whore I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 2: this right hold on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't like my comment about liking who likes me?
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  Speaker 1: And that's cool. I mean, people have their own circle
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  Speaker 1: back to that. It's not it's not on somebody to
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  Speaker 1: tell you what you think.
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  Speaker 4: For sure, but sometimes you say things and without expanding
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  Speaker 4: on it or explaining it.
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  Speaker 1: My thing is not even saying that.
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  Speaker 4: They was like, oh, you're just settling there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing my dad told me about this, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's just interesting. It gives your freedom to
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  Speaker 1: be yourself, bro, not even saying this about you, but
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  Speaker 1: you can be loud and wrong. You can say your opinion. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this idea that you got to shut up into you like,
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  Speaker 1: it's not realistic, it's not real conversation. And so a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people come to me like, my friends, how
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  Speaker 1: do I post? Bro, post your opinions? And then over time,
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  Speaker 1: when you realize the value and the responsibility you are
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  Speaker 1: to be accountable to the audience that you have, then
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  Speaker 1: it'll it will train you as somebody of value, somebody
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  Speaker 1: that values you know, growing and poort into people that
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  Speaker 1: I got to change the way I communicate, bro like,
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  Speaker 1: and people always will always will have something to say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And so even for the people that's listening,
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  Speaker 1: that's them too, like they want to be able to
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  Speaker 1: express themselves freely and be wrong. All right, So don't
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  Speaker 1: you dad call open your mouth and say something that
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  Speaker 1: put you can engage in conversation and have a different opinion.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have to agree, but we have to give
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  Speaker 1: ourselves a chance to have a platform to share our
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  Speaker 1: different ideas.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, you know, I was listening to y'all, to
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  Speaker 5: you all, I was listening to you guys, and obviously
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  Speaker 5: before the show, I always come up with all of
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  Speaker 5: these different topics for us to talk about. I knew
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  Speaker 5: there was a bunch of men in the room, and
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to cater this conversation to the fact that
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  Speaker 5: all of us are different, different places in our lives
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  Speaker 5: from culture, you know, different cultures, trauma and I are different,
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  Speaker 5: we both I would say, I'm Black American, he's Jamaican American,
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  Speaker 5: he's North Carolina American. I no, I hate him, uh,
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  Speaker 5: but we all have different and we're at different places
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  Speaker 5: in our lives.
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  Speaker 1: Right. A young man was.
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  Speaker 5: Did this thing where he was let me see if
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  Speaker 5: I can find these things in the street, and he's
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  Speaker 5: asking these questions and I think it leads to humanity.
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  Speaker 2: I just I just find it funny that we was
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  Speaker 2: talking about this. Let me find it and see here
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  Speaker 2: it goes.
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  Speaker 7: Rather your girl be stuck in the woods with a
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  Speaker 7: random bear or a random man?
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  Speaker 1: Why is that? Could it bearing go?
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  Speaker 7: Would you rather your girl be stuck in the woods
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  Speaker 7: or a random bear or a random man? You said
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  Speaker 7: you don't know what the what the man's gonna do?
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  Speaker 7: Rather your girl be stuck in the woods or a
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  Speaker 7: random bear or a random man?
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  Speaker 3: Random bear? They do like you don't know what the
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  Speaker 3: they could do?
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  Speaker 7: Rather your girl be stuck in the woods with a
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  Speaker 7: random barrel or random man?
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  Speaker 1: I just gonna have to die by that bear.
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  Speaker 7: Gain say that I'm up by bears. Would you rather
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  Speaker 7: your girl be stuck in the woods or the random
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  Speaker 7: bear of random man?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I think I take the man was a I don't know, Mary,
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  Speaker 7: you stand up chance at least man you can like
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  Speaker 7: refer back to humanity. Would y'all rather your girl be
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  Speaker 7: stuck in the woods or a random bear or random man?
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  Speaker 1: A random man? Why he said that? I mean a bear.
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  Speaker 1: She's gonna die, bro. I can only pray that a
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  Speaker 1: man get her there sation he get back to dude,
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  Speaker 1: I care about you.
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  Speaker 7: Go God, But y'all rather your girl be stuck in
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  Speaker 7: the woods or a random bear or random man?
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  Speaker 3: Random bear, y'all pick beard?
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  Speaker 1: You do? Man?
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  Speaker 2: We saw where that was going. It was a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: There's a bunch more ninety of the men that they
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  Speaker 2: want my girl to get killed by beer would rather
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  Speaker 2: than women in the in the woods with the bear.
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  Speaker 3: What is that?
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  Speaker 5: I think that says more about what they think about
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  Speaker 5: men than anything. But he's talking about spirituality. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 5: talking about how love and when we don't even believe
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  Speaker 5: that generally about each other.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there was a white dude in there
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  Speaker 2: right for some reason, didn't the white dude was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh no, yeah with the man.
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  Speaker 3: Man because he's like, why he's gonna get here?
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  Speaker 1: Had no chance?
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  Speaker 2: Because let's think about our existence and why it is
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  Speaker 2: that the black men, especially the youth, because it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like it was a bunch of young guys right in
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  Speaker 2: the twenties at Lisa right, would rather trust they girl
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  Speaker 2: around fucking bear than another dude.
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  Speaker 1: What is that? It's a it's a consequence of a
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  Speaker 1: falling humanity. I believe again, I love. I'm not religious
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  Speaker 1: to have a relationship with Christ. So my my standpoint
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  Speaker 1: will always come from that foundation. And so if you
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  Speaker 1: look at Genesis one twenty six, it says, let us
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  Speaker 1: make man in our own image and our own likeness,
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  Speaker 1: and let them have dominion or the fisher to see
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  Speaker 1: the birds of the air and the creeps that crawl
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  Speaker 1: on the ground. And so the mandate for man is
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  Speaker 1: the name of the species, not a gender. So one man,
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  Speaker 1: man was to have dominion, domination, authority over the earth.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: And so in Genesis two, God says he looks at everything.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: He declared it good, good, good, good good, and he
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: literally paused. And if I may say it like this,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: he had a problem. He didn't have a man to dominate.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: And till the land. You have a man in the
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: God in the earthly, in the heavenly realms is love.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: So love has to share itself for love to be loved.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: So he creates man in the earthly realms. Man is
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: the name of the spirit of the species, not the gender.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: But man is a spirit. And he says, hey, I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: have everything that I've made, and I declare it good,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to cause rain to come down
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: because I don't have a man to till and work
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: the land. Guess what, I'm gonna pick up some dirt
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna breathe my life into dirt. Man became
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: a living soul. The Bible says, so you have spirit
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: made in Genesis one, then you have the dirt the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: body part. Then you have his breath made the soul.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Man is spirit, soul and body. I am a spirit.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I have a soul. What does that mind? Will, emotions, motivations, intentions.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I live in the casing of a body. And so
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: God placed the man Adam into his presence and says, hey, bro,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: go to work. And then he said everything he says, Okay,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: let me put you down out of your rib. I'm
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: gonna make Eve and y'all gonna go to work together.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: But one rule. You see that tree right there, don't
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: eat from it because the day you eat from it,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you're dead. And so it's interesting for me. I always
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, how come he said Adam is dead?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: But the biblical narrative says that Adam lived to nine
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty years, like he did not die physically.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: How come question? Because when God says he's dead. When
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: he eats it, it means his spirit. Why, because God
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: knows himself. God says, I'm holy. And so the day
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that you declare independence from me by way of eating
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: that apple, you're dead. You lose the breath that I've
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: breathed into you. That's why if we look at the Bible,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: you see the whole Old Testament, the Holy Spirit will
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: come upon Like Samson, he'd do mighty work and then
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: he'd leave. Why because you got a dirt suit. I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: don't do dirt suit, only for what I have to do.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Then I'm dipping. He went on. David. David would do
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: mighty works and then he'd leave. Interesting because after man
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: fell in Genesis, he says, Okay, you're dead, but I'm
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: coming in a seed, and the seed's going to crush
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the head. What is that the authority of the snake,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: which was invested by Satan himself, I'm coming to crush
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: that head. I'm coming in the seed. Translate. Years later,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: you have the body. You have the man Jesus who
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: came in a seed born of woman, and he died,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: he rose to live to then when he rose, I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: loved the Bible bro. When he rot, I can tell,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: but you missed him. No, no, I'm still going. When he rose,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: he went to the upper room because they was hiding
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: from them, the people that just killed Christ. He breathed
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: on them. He said, what receive ye the Holy Spirit?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: So the man that lost it to begin, Okay, the
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: next man, God himself came in flesh to breathe his
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: life into his own again, so we can live again.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: What am I saying? This whole world is under a
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: fallen state. That's why there's bad. That's why people have
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: more faith in a freaking bear than a man, even
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: knowing the man's flesh or flesh we want to do wrong.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: But thankfully, by way of his breath, his life, we
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: have power. The Bible says, we have power against those things.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And so the work of a believer is to be
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: able to surrender and to allow the work of Christ
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to do his work in our lives and outside of
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: our lives.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, I think you forgot you miss something and
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: everything that you said Genesis one twenty six. Yeah, God
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: me man, and he said he had dominion over the
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: fish and the birds in the air. Right there, you
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: taught tyranny because we would take that dominion and then
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: turn it on each other.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: It's hue.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It becomes human nature right then and there. When you
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: said I am over.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: You, I would say tyrany. I actually agree. I would
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: say tyranny happened when the fall happened, because everything that
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: he called good, everything that we're supposed to Again, we're
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: not supposed to dominate people, he said over efficiency, which
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think that's tyranny to say, Hey, bro,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: like the earth, the animals and stuff, there's dominion.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Now we're gonna we're gonna teach. We're gonna learn from that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Evolution says that we learned from not necessarily until the fall.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Until I can't say that good then, But you know
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: that's where we are though, Yes, regardless of anything. Yes
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: know that these men we question women that choose the bear,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: but when we in a room with each other, we
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: want them with the bear too.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And you tell me why. I again, it's depravity, it's
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: falling man, and it's our own. We all fend for ourselves.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: We were not made for like we were made to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: connect with each other. We were made from love to love,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: literally love himself. Had he didn't have to make this earth.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: But because he loves he decided to make this earth,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: He decided to make us. And so because he decided
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to make us, we were supposed to be in connection,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and we had a privilege. The Bible says, it's a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: sacred privilege to be able to dominate and be a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: good steward of everything. He's given me, my talents, this place,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to have a conversation with people. That's your service to God,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: because that's what he's given you. But what happens is
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: what man says is good. And when sin comes in
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: a building, it turns it upside down. How come we're
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: supposed to dominate the earth, but the things that we're
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: supposed to dominate is dominating us. Oh, drugs dominating us.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: We can't get off the drug, can't get off the alcohol,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: can't get off the pills. What we're supposed to have
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: dominion over that he called good is dominating us. That's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: called a false reality of false society by way of sin.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: And that that's why you need the power of God
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: himself to be able to outwork that, to be able
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to turn that. And that's why God came. That's why
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: God gave a son to die, and I have these
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: conversations because it's not a religious thing, because again I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: rejected the whole religious No, let's git religious. Religious is
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: a okay. Religion in general is a practices that bind
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: us to worship whoever we worship. So in that realm, no,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: like I, everybody does religious practices. If you want to
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: break it down, it's just practices that bind you together.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: So every time you pray, every time you worship, that's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a religious practice. But in terms of the cultural society
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: termed religious, no, I'm not religious. Ill I say Christian
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: need don't. Don't, nigga. I grew up in locker rooms
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: where I grew up like that, So I don't like
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and so that's why I had myself asking questions, asking questions,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: grow up in the church asking questions. But when I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: found the answers, and it's in the God Man himself.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: They came to die to live, to place his spirit
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on the inside of me, so I can live with
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: a clearity. Like from instance, this is totally unrelated. But
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: four years abstinate, not because I can. Oh, I'm just strong, nigga,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I'm handsome, I'm strong. Every time I get a pump yeah,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I feel that, but there's a there's a design that
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: God called me for their calling all my life that
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I know, Like bro, I choose because of my love,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: not because of these rules, because of my love for Christ.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do something that he hate. And so
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that's the motivation. I always look at the lens of love.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: And love isn't just oh what feels good to me,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: because it is at but love is a surrender. It's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: like I decide. I decide because of who you are
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and because of who you've been in my life, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: because of what this means. If the whole world looked
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: at the lens of love, like the ultimate example, again,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: how come every religion respects Christ but they have one disagreement?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Is he God or not? At his deity? That begs
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the question we should be a having these conversations about Okay,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: let me look at this, let me look at his life,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: let me look at how he lives. What's the historical evidence,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: what's the archaeological evidence, what is the proof's secular proof
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: that said, oh, well, he did die under earth, they
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: did crucify him under Roman crucifixion. If all these questions
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: are have answers, why are we talking about other things,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: because again, there is a reality we live and there
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: is okay the reality, and go ahead, Yeah, we could
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: say all of those things. But at the end of
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the day is my grandmother served the church for eighty
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: five years yep. Where she died.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: They charged her the burier when she died, they charged
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: her to rent the damn the hall where she died.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: The priests wouldn't show up without three fifty. So you
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: could say all of that, but we still got to
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: deal with today. We still got to deal without hair
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: and humans is fucking all that shit up. So I
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: could believe in all the paint and the color and
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: the spears and the spires of the church and all
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: that other shit. It looks nice stained glass and all that,
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: but it's humans in there. It's humans in there, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: they ain't safe. And that's what we got to deal
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: with every day.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I respect that because Bro, I feel I don't resonate
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: with your exact experience. But my sister that last year
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: thirty three died of a cute leukemia, served in the church.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: We did her service in her church, and Bro I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: was so pissed because Bro that she went to a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: white church. They had a they were just using her talent,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: not paying her. Like, so I resonate with the church
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: hurt aspect of it. What my angle is exactly, Bro,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: that's people. That's not God.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: But we can believe in God, but we still got
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: to deal with people.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. My thing is there's a there's a negative spiritual
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: side behind people as well. And so Bro, when you
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: when you when we have these conversations, we have to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: look at it from a side of there is an
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: attack on all of our lives, regardless on what we
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: look like, and that is by way of sin, that
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: is by way of Satan himself. He comes to still kill,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: destroy and he uses these beautiful conversations we will have
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: with other people. Then you'll have a thought like he
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: don't really, you'll have these suggestions that are outside of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: our own reality based on what people and culture. Again,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the Bible says the prince of the power of the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: world of the earth is Satan. So the world system
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: culture likes to take a beautiful conversation you might have
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: with a white per and be like, well they only
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: did that a nigs start thinking, am I niga? Like no,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: it was a good conversation with somebody like and so
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I'm so big on knowledge of bro. Yes, history happens,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: but what happened before even that history happens. It is
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: called sin that likes to take all this stuff and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: twist it to make us hate each other.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I don't bro. What are y'all wanna say?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Nah, I just I know that passion. I don't fuck
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: with that with all due respect. Yeah, I don't fuck
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: with that white people.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: It's cool.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: I don't have if we've gone back to the white
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: people think, which I think that We've got so much
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: more to talk about. But if it's just if we're
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: going back to I don't fuck with yo, yo, white.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Person, how you doing?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You're good? Cool, no problem.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: It's when you're white supremacist or you are in pouring
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: into racist institutions, racist systems that affect me and minds
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: where me as a black man or father, a leader,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: the patriarch of this community, all do respect to the matriarch.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I got to step up and buck up, and I'm
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: accepting that charge. So I'm just aware. I'm not hating them.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I'm aware.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: That's it being aware, like I said before, to me,
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: like I said it goes back to the human aspect
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: of it, and there's just bad humans. There's good humans,
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: and it's bad humans. I think that's the easiest way
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: to simplify it, because once you start putting the other
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: stuff on it, that's when it gets tricky. But like
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I said, it's white, black, don't matter.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I'm annoying. What makes a bad again?
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: So what makes a bad human?
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it could be a plethorad thing and
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: bad to what again? I think I think obviously bad
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: is subjective, but I think as I think as humans,
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: there's certain things that we have to be able to
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: agree on universally, right. We have to be able to say, Okay,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: these set of things are just bad across the board.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter age, raised gender, it's just these things
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: are bad. So I think we're you just talking about
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Like I said, obviously.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. That's why I believe it comes
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: back to who is God? Because how can one say
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: this is good and without their foundational knowledge on who
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: is God? And so that's kind of why I lead
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: with that. It is not to be like all spooky,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: but it's like, okay, these common words, these phrases that
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: this ideal society that we see. Where do we get
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that from? Who's our foundation? Does that check out the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: questions that we have? Does it align with our experience?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And so as we question ourselves on those it informs
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: us to how we see people.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I got a question, but change this whole shit up, right,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: because I think we've been going in circles for forty minutes,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and I think there's a lot of value in this conversation.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: For one, me and this man differed on this podcast
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: three four years, five years ago. We had a big
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: thing on this podcast five years ago, and it was
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: about COVID.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: He didn't want to take the jab?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Am I right? Yeah?
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I called you irresponsible? Right? It was basically us versus you,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: me and Dodge. Am I right?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: That happened?
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: You stood tall on that. Did you take the jab?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: You had to? Did you choose to?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I had to play?
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I had to.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Did you want to?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean I did? No, Honestly I didn't.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Did you believe in it?
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Because Bro, I'm weird. I'm like him almost like bro, like,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: how do you? I had to letten? And so maybe
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't have an informed opinion like you, But I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: didn't really want to, but I had to.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I was. How could you be informed?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: You did?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: You're being processed, You're being you're being programmed, right, We're
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: being programmed through the information they send in us.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: He's like, I'm not dealing with the program. You're not
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: gonna make me. Yeah, but it doesn't history doesn't support
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: that this is healthy. Yes, yes, that's the same thing.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And I agreeed you take the jab.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I had to.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: No, I was never doing that. I had a conversation
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: with mom. I remember my mom, my mom, uncle. They
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: both took it in there. You know what I'm saying.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: They had to, and I was. I think it's one
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: of those things that you had to just decide for yourself, right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I think it was one of those things because again,
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: everybody was going to do it. We've seen Kyrie Irvin, right,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: We've seen different people just take a stand and be
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: like no. And me personally, I didn't take it because
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: I just didn't. I just didn't believe in just the
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: system because to me, what it showed me was we
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: this shit just came out and you have a cure
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: for it in nine months. But we've had certain things
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: for years and years and you've never gotten a cure
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: for it. So is this a money thing?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Like, I'm just looking at the whole shit just weird
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: now because you're telling me that you can do this,
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: you have the ability to do something, but you're choosing
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: not to.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: So I'm just like, I'm.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Good, like, oh we know that though, Big Farmer, well, yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: we know figure out, we know it. But that I
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: think that was the first time that we got to
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: see it. We got to see it from inception of
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: virus to distribution of vaccine, right, and you got to say, hmmm,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: I'd have been sending money to Saint Jews for thirty
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: years respectfully, Respectfully, I haven't seen you know what I'm saying.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: So I'm just not understanding this. I'm just understanding what's
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: going on right now. So I'm going to opt out
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: of this. That was just my personal opinion.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Trump.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, have you been paying attention to the whole committee
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: that's going on with doctor Facci being deposed?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: So I did watch some of it. I know he
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: played the fifth on everything, so I don't know what
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: that means. I didn't watch it in real time and
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't get all the recaps, so I don't I don't.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Know, im I seen it a little biteah, kick me,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: bring me up to speak.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: I'm not exactly sure why the COVID chronicles are happening
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: right now, right I don't know if it's just do
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: you know, Yeah, Basically it goes back to the Trump
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: basically really get really gating the twenty twenty thing basically,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: so everything all of that, because you know, he felt
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: like COVID was part of the reason that he lost election.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: So basically for him proving that COVID was uh, it
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: was uh what do you call it? A deep state operation?
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Fauci and China and all of the all of the
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: people that he's been saying that been against him, they're
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: responsible for it. So it wasn't me, it was default
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: what happened, you know what I'm saying. So that's that's
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: why that's why it's a thing right now, because you're asking,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: you sol, why am.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I saying foul it? Why am I seeing right now?
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Because it's like, Yo, all of the people that had
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: something to do with that, we need, you know what
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, We need to make it look bad. We're
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: trying to drop throne in jail, whatever whatever we can
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: do to make it seem like, yo, y'all stolen election
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: and the COVID shit was your fault. It wasn't on me.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I didn't mean that's that's why you're saying this. That's
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: why you're seeing all of the people get attacked getting Do.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Y'all feel vindicated for not taking the job?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Do you?
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I did take the job you did? Eventually I was.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: I was against it, and I ended up getting the
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: the least invasive jab the Johnson Johnson went black, right.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: So you know, out of ad so crazy Johnson and Johnson.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you why. For one, and I said
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: this on the podcast years ago, I took the Jazz
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: reluctantly because my oldest daughter wanted me to take it
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: and at the time I wasn't seeing her often and
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: that was one of her stipulations stipulations, So you know,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I did it for her, you know, right, the irony
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: the then As far as why I took the Johnson
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: and Johnson because I you know, at the time, my
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: doctor was like, he's a real natural healing doctor. He
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: actually had some healing tea that that helped ease the
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: symptoms of COVID. He did a lot of studying in
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: China dealing with natural herbs and medicines and stuff. Real
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: dope dude, real knowledgeable dude, and on some doctor Sebby
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: type shit. So I consulted with him about it. He
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: was anti VAXX. I spoke to him about my dilemma, like, listen,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do it, but if I was
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: going to do it with your advice, and he was like, well,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: the Johnson Johnson vax is more of the same type
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: of nature of the vaccines that we've been taking all
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: of our lives. It's the similar so it's not something
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: that just came about in nine months. It's a similar
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: type of where the other ship is like some new
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: studies that they're experimenting with DNA and genetic modification, like
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It was a whole different
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: type of things. So that's why I did the Johnson Johnson.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know all of them was different.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I just thought different companies was making this formula that
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: they all agreed on.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It was all different ship.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: They were there and a little bit of I know
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: that it was different when you started looking at like
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: the stocks of them and how their stocks move.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: You could tell.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: You can tell, like, Okay, what's what's going to be mainstream,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: what's being left, what has the you know what I'm saying.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: You can tell it when you're looking at it from
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: that perspective. So, I you know, I get it. Misinformation
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: is crazy. Go on Facebook. I'm on Facebook now, Well,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: got me on Facebook. I can't do it. It's it's
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: difficult because that's a weird group of people over there.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: You know, your FBA people is over there. Shout out
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: to the FBA idiots. Shout out to them. Stupid motherfucker
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: who were there? The Foundational Black Americans. They're a black maga.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of them. Yeah, they want more. They
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: want they believe that they are not. They have more
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: rights to reparations than rights to reparations. But they also
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: are like kind of hateful towards the rest of the diaspora.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I don't care. I've got rights to reparations. I want
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: you to have it.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I don't see reason why we beefing over there if
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: you're because I don't even see that coming, Like I
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: don't even see that talk happening. But if you're using
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: that to discriminate against other black people around you.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: You turn into the shit that you're turning into. You hate,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: You're hating on people.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: You're literally talking about like where they're from, like calling
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: You're back to calling people monkeys and all this other shit.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Like literally, no, they bugging the SBA Foundation of Black Americans.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: They literally that's crazy. So, and I'm generalizing because if
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: there's some good ones out there, I ain't seen y'all.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Y'all all idiots.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: They Oh the whole bunch of y'all, that screaming FBA y'all,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: a bunch of fucking idiots.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: That's how I feel, Jesus Christ. So, and you could
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: just clip that. It could be fourteen seconds. I don't
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: give a fuck.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I really don't give a fuck fuck them, But I
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: just believe, like we black people, Black, Nigerian, Ghana, uh,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: fucking Trinidad, fucking you know what I mean, shit, Dominican Dominicans,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: like all of us black brown you know, we need
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: to stop this ship amongst each other. We got the
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: same ass real enemy to me. He don't believe, don't listen.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: And we can disagree, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we disagree
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And you want to know why I'm not even fully
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: sold on my because in the rever, did you know
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: that there was such a thing as a White Black
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Panther Party.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Nah, there's a white Panther Party. Did y'all know that?
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Let me see, let me see like the Proud Boys
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: or No, they was on outside. Oh okay, that's nuts.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: But I know there was there was a lot of
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: white people that was going outside. I know, I know
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: you don't like to hear that, but I no, no,
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: I mean every like, just speaking in general, like when
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: you were talking about the black struggle, when you say
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: that there were white people that were instrumental people, they
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: just get like weird.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: It's like.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: The White Panther Party was a radical, anti racist, and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: anti capital political collective founded in November nineteen sixty eight
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: in ann Arbor, Michigan, by JOHNS.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Clear Linski.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Formed in response to Black Panther co found though hub P.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Newton's call for white activists to organize anti racist support groups,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: the counter culture organization combined revolutionary politics with rock music,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: psychedelic drug use, and cultural rebellion. They really had a
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: group of white people that was trying to infiltrate to
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: help us.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: You know when you said about when you said about
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: the people having approved themselves Trump. Do you remember that
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: movie I think the name of it is Mississippi Burning
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: where the white people went down to Alabama to help
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the black people. It was like, I think it was
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: like a voting thing that they were doing, but they
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: went down there to help them vote against it, and
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: you know, staying in protests with them and talk about
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: proving yourself. There's a famous story basically of three guys going.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: It was I think two white guys and a black guy.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: They were basically driving trying to get the black guy
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: of town that got caught by the klan and they
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: all got killed, the white people included, because you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: they told them, they said, if y'all come down here
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: with them, y'are getting it too. And they said, Yo,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: we know that, and we're coming anyway. And I think
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: that's the that's what you're talking about with that, that's
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: the ship that you're going to die with me.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And they was on it. They was like yo.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: They'd be like, Yo, we're coming, and droves, we're gonna
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: stand in front of you. They got to kill us
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: to get to you.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I love you you like.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Come on, Richard, I'm with him,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I'm with Dick. Sorry. How does how does a white
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: person prove their love in that way today?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, they got stressed out.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not going back into there's a question.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Because I like, I love honestly, I do love your passion.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Just the other side of that, how how does a
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: white person prove their love today to be like oh.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: This to black people? Yeah, that's I think. I think
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: you gotta. You have to. You have to stand up
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: and show up when you when you have something to risks,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Like when you're standing up when you don't have anything
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: to risks. It's like it's cool, you know, it's like
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: all right, salute. But like the Town's point, it only
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: really matters if we if we can feel like yo,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: you rich something.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: To be here, mm hmmm, something to risk like that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: what you got?
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Noah, I agree with that, Like when it's inconvenient for you,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: what what stance are you gonna take?
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: And nor I understand your perspective about loving all humans.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I do love all humans, but there's levels to the
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: ship man, you know what I mean. I hate most
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I love us a little bit more.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I hate most humans because the earth is mad beautiful
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: without us.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: That's not true.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: We fucked this ship up, bro, Yo.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: You know we messed the earth up in the last
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: sixty years more than we did in the millions that
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: it's been here.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I would agree.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Look at you up in the morning and listen to
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the birds and they just flying around you. You you
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: look in the ocean and they just jumping.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Is dumping oil. Yo.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: You know how bad we have to be as a species.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: Like I said, you're what I said, the last sixty
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: seventeen years, we've done more damage to the Earth than
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: the whole time has been in existence.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: That says more about us as humans than it say
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: about any other thing that was here before us.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: After you know what I'm saying, we.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Got more toys to mess with it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: That's the titles point. It's like, like he said, this
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: ship was so beautiful. But like I said, when you
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: talk about all the pollution and dumping, the fires, all
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: the stuff that we do to contribute as humans to
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: the destruction of this.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Bro, other animals yo, most well, I don't know there
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: are animals out there that just killed to kill though Derek,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: there are animals out there that just be like, nah,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: fuck that nigga killing nigga and just keep it pushing.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Most animals killed for food, but you got your random
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: animals that be like but.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I don't think we have any animal that actually kills
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: the earth.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: But I think where the why is? Hey, we want
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that money, so we're willing to do whatever it takes
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: to get the money. But it has to do with
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the human condition. Again, I know we don't like to
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: talk about this.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: It's also men. It's also men. Women ain't just out
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: here just killing for fun. Broy doing in different ways
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: in what ways?
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: M oh what? Oh? What is this?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Say honey on your tongue, That's what happened.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: They kill you through some push. And I'm curious to
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think because this is a conversation
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I have with some of my friends. The power dynamics
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: in the world. I think it's women, bro, it's women.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: What power? Like Okay, let's say I used to coin
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: it like this. Men have positional power. Women have influence,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: influential power. So that's the power that rules everything. Influence.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: And so when you have a conversation about like why
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: we do the things that we do. I'm curious to
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But no speak on it, say it, no, no, no, don't
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: be this is so shameless. You come over here to
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: make crazy as things. No, I'm saying and again that
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: women influence men to do evil. Shit, that's what you're saying.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Not to do evil. But I think a lot of
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: our motivation it tends to be from sex, tends to
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: be from women. Fact. But then like you said, it
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: comes like, oh, I do some of this stuff to
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: be so my boys can see, which is weird. It's
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: just just a there's a combination of factors that it's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: it comes from a heart posture of I want greed,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I want to take, I want, I want, and so
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: whatever that is, whether it's sex, whether it's in what
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: we see again, I take it to the Bible. The
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the pride of life, it kills every man. What I
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: need with my eyes. Oh I want money, I want
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the flesh, man, I gotta get with that. Or the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: pride of having a name and notoriety. That's these are
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the that's what falls, that's what men fall to. And
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: so there's a lot of factors in there, even as
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I talk about women. Again, that's one of the easier
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: things that we can point to, but it goes to
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: what's in our nature.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Because you just not realize that you you started with women,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I thought, and the women's if you said's so sameless.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: You touch it through, but you ended in our own inadequacy,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: is our own ego and pride and the things that
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: we do for power and dominance. So you know, you
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: just knocked the women's influence off the board because it
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: became about us, our domination over women and our need
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: to please women or to please our homeboys, or to
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: gain power.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: That's men talking it through. It's one of Again, women
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: are a factor, but like you said, it is other
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: facts men.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: It's power, it's greed, it's all of those things. It's ego,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: it's all those things. Women have those things too, It's
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying I do. But do they fucking destroy
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: whole continents over it?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: In a different way from the influence I to hear it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: How influence, bro? Why do people I just turn h
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go into that. But one of
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: my best friends died. Why does that happen, not saying
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: it to women, but like a woman was behind that.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: That's just one of my anecdotal experiences. But there's a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: plenty more to where man like, everything's going well, y'all boys,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and then you get with this girl who got with
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: him and twisted. Now one of them is dead. That
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: don't make sense. And so it's like, I don't even
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: want to say the men and the woman thing again.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I go to falling flesh. And so when falling flesh says, okay,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I want that. I want control in some type of way.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: If women, by way of their own experience, they say
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I can have control based on what I put out,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that's how they're going to do it. If a man
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: say I can have control by my hand, my brute
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: fish and what I make, and I'm going to do it,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and so there's different avenues to where they manifest themselves.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: But it comes back to fall in flesh. I understand, y'all,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: anybody got.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Anything, Well, just to expand on that, like I understand
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: what you're saying kind of like indirectly the woman is
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: responsible there, but I just feel like inherently women aren't
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: as violent, They're not going to be the ones pulling
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: the trigger.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: And I don't think women are responsible, is what I'm saying.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: But they're whisperers, is what he's saying. They influence men
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: in certain ways. And I do believe power is a thing,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: but women have to figure out how to get it,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: because again, you can't make peace with somebody that wants
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: war with you.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Men have been.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: At war with women for years, keeping them under heel,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: keeping them without power. And so if they have now
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: learned through whatever experience, is through the genetics that come
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: from their mothers, their grandmothers, whatever, that you are not
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: with them and use your pussy the right way, or
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: don't allow yourself to be used a certain way, and
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: they find ways to now manipulate to get to where
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: they got to get so that they don't need you
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: or so they cannot.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Be harmed by you.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Is that an evil thing?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: And is that not self preservation?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: It's an evil thing. And I'll say that from my experience, bro.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: When I was six to eight, I was sexually assaulted
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again, to women,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: to women that I knew, women in my family. And
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: one can look at that and be like, Okay, they
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: were young, they didn't know it happened to them, probably
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: at the hands of man. And we can blame the man,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and we can blame the women, and I can blame
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: both of them, or one can look at fallen flesh
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: and be like, Bro, it's unfortunate that that happened to me.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: But I'm not going to allow either way, because we
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: can go like I personally, there was a point in
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: my life where I got so mad every time sexually
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: assault like was talked only from one lens of a
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: man doing this to a woman like Bro. It happened
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to me the hands of women like before I could
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: even know what that was, and it changed the way
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I looked at things, and it changed the way I
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: acted like And so I'm saying all this to say,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: we all have our own unique things that make us
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: see the way that we see. But if we're allowed
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: to see past our casing, there is a real problem
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that makes us do these things. And so it's not
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: in a man or a woman. I believe it's on
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the falling nature of flesh, and then the influences outside ourselves,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: which is again spiritual.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: You keep saying falling flesh. Yeah, I want to understand
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: this more, what is it? Why do you keep saying that, I.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Keep saying falling flesh, Because by way of what I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: kind of said earlier, is when Adam chose to declare
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: independence from God, he was supposed to rule in perfect
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: unity with every all creation. And so what he did
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: was he literally gave Satan the authority over the earth.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And so the serpent, the Bible says, to whomsoever you obey,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: you are servant to what you obey. And so Adam says, hey,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: by way of again, Eve said hey, we can eat
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: from this, and Adam knew, like bro I was told
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: by God himself not to do this by way of saying, okay,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I declare independence from you God, I'm going to listen
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: to this woman by way of the serpent. That's why
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the head the serpent's authority reigns and still rains on
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: this earth's system. And God so is a perfect gentleman.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: He's not going to say, Okay, I'm gonna change everything else. No,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: he's going to abide by the rules that he even said.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: So he has to come in a seed. He has
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: to be flesh to be able to live a perfect life,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: surrender to die, to rise. Why the Bible says the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: life of the flesh is in the blood, So all
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: flesh is all the life of the flesh is in
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the blood. So okay, where is life located blood? So
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: what happens when you have flesh, Well, you have blood
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: that is contaminated. What happens when you have blood that
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: is in the loins of Adam and Eve, which is
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: dead flesh? To God? Again, death is separation from God?
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: What happens when you come through that line? I got
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: to have blood with no contamination. The Bible says the
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: wages of sin is death. And so why did God,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: the god Man himself come through a virgin? Why is
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: that a miraculous thing because there's no blood contamination. He
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: came through a virgin and lived and died and rose
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: so that we can have the opportunity to live free again.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: And so I always say that because bro, like right now,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the influences in the world, Like we're talking about depravity
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: from a different lens. It's true. Everything we're saying is
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: very true. And my thing is we're highlighting different parts
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: of humanity. Why don't we look at like behind that, bro,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: And I'll say this in Nigeria and the Western world.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: That's different, Like the spirit in Nigeria. You'll see like
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: spiritual things that don't make sense here, and people look, oh,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: that's kind of crazy. No, you will see it with
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: your own eyes. And so there's a different level of
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: there's a different way that the spiritual world dominates in
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: this Western society. And so I like seeing life for
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: what it is. Oh, we are in a spiritual warfare, bro.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: And if we don't have the right tools, if we're
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: not having the right conversation, we already lost. And we think,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: oh the money, the power. That we look at our
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: own experiences, how come I want more when I have everything?
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: If I look back, this is everything I ever wanted,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: But I want more. I want more, I want more,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I want more, there's no peace. There's always stress. That's
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: not fulfillment, that freedom that piece like for me, I'm
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: talking about my own experience, everything I ever wanted, money,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that I talked about, three story house, the girl, I
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: just I felt nothing. Come how come we we look
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: at billionaires, they have all the money and they take
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: their lives. Come, how come there's a spirit behind influencing
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: those actions. And so when we have these conversations. The
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: antidote I believe to the world's problems is Christ. You
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: need that breath of life that man was literally designed
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: to have to be able to have dominion. The Bible
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: says we were made for dominion. But you can't have
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: dominion without His life in you. And so that's the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: that's the charge I have. Again, I tackle taboo topics
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: because oh oh, we will talk religion. Why not we
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: don't talk Christ? Why not? We can talk about everything
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: else in society, but that's off limits. I respect your belief.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Respecting my belief is actually understanding where I come from
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and actually engaging in that conversation, engaging in the hard
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: things because everybody doesn't want to talk about it. That's real.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: That's being a man, that's being a leader. What actually
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: matters in life? What has you have you seen in life?
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And like, how do we attack this together? No matter
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: what you look like.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Damn nigga, you just stopped.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I knew you was going to stop there.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: No, I have one question, and this is not exactly
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: related to what you said, but you said earlier. Yes,
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: you've been abstinent for four years. How has that helped
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: you on your journey? Over these last four years.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Bro It's it's there's a depth of spiritual growth that
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I have with Christ I've never had before. Very clear
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: on how I'm moving, not saying I have everything figured out,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: but I'm very clear on who I'm living life with
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: and to bro I've been able to touch a lot of
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: lives and help a lot of people, and I do
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: believe is because of the focus and the surrender God
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: uses yielded vessels. He is no respector of persons. He
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: didn't make one man better than the next man. If
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you see a gift somebody else have, you have that
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: as well in a different way. And so for me,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: what I've been able to do is be clear and
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: love what he loves and hate what he hates, and
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: be able to wrestle with the things that he wants
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: me to clear up. I always say, make I'm vulnerable
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: and humble before you Lord, purify my desires. And as
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I've done that, Bro's, it's a clarity and it's a
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: peace about Okay, what I want my future future spouse
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: to look like, but what legacy I want to leave Again,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not here for myself. I've been through a lot
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: of stuff it'd be useless to be allowed to go
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: through all of this, Like having a family member come
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: from from New York City about to play for a
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Big twelve championship twenty nineteen and tell him, hey, bro,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I'm about to pick up your cousin from the airport
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: and have a cousin that goes to Texas Tech. I
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: take them out to a bar. I leave because I
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: have a workout in the morning, and they lose their life.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there like, Bro, why am I here?
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Why am I alive? It should have been three for
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: three or none of us leave. I felt guilty. I
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: felt those things I've gone through all this. Why am
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I allowed to go through all this? If I can't
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: share it, if I can't share who got me through?
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: If I can't share that. Oh, we can laugh and
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: talk about everything else that men talk about. But when
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: you're behind closed doors in your room on the way home,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you're thinking about everything you have to do for your family,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: everything your mom, call your friends. That it's a lot
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: of pressure, bro, And I'm telling you that there's freedom
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: and being able to let go and breathe, and that
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: breath is in Christ. And so when we have these conversations.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I have friends that are Muslim. I have different friends
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: from different perspectives, but I always challenge them. Okay, that
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Jesus in your book, how come it done line with
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: this book? How come in your book it says, hey,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: go back to those in the scripture if you have
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: any questions, how come we don't have these conversations? If
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: you find yourself getting frustrated or there's a vitriol after
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I say Jesus, why is that? We can talk about
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: everything else? But when I say Jesus, guy, why do
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: you have such a It's a.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Question and my last thing, my fault.
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: I know you do think lastly so and you feel
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: like you any future partner, you would want somebody to
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: have the same reverence for the spirituality as you.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I want them to love Jesus Christ. I think there's
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: a there's a temptation to be like, oh, I want
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: you to be on my wait, bro, Like you come
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: to God dirty and he makes you clean. I don't
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: matter what past you had, if you love the Lord
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, what's happening? And that was a struggle for me.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, I want I don't want her to
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: be you have the questions of, oh how many Mary.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: That's as childish and as immature as what it is,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: so I have to grow up. It's like, oh, so
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: you think the people that you've been with that makes
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: you better than next? No. And so it's like for me,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: if she loved the Lord Jesus Christ, what was happening? King?
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: No underscore what's adding six? Non beautiful man that loved
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the Lord Jesus Christ was haden. But on an honest perspective,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I think the residue of having sex before marriage. I
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: really do believe this personally. It protects my protects my memories.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Now I'm so almost picky in this Oh she gotta
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: have this yat But it's like bro, like I wouldn't
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: have even been aware to that realm if I didn't
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: do bro everything else.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: So get it, Guessine, you gotta go. I actually, yeah,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I do. I had so much more.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Do you like women? Yeah? I love?
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: And actually if you loved him? I actually If you
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: like women, yes.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: I know that's a loaded question because they irritate me,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: but yes I do like them.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: You're not I'm not evenna ask you more than men. No,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ask you, because I don't even know.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: If you can't, you're not a real person. When when
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: women come up, you just you will say, you will
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: say what sounds good. That's not true. But so you
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: like women? Yes, I like women more than men.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean duh, I would think so, oh, okay,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: I see what you're saying.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: Right, right, right, I'm not a human talking about like
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: rather like I'd rather hang out with the women than
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: a guy with women.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, with women, but that's a personal relationship. I'm talking
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: about like socially, we just talking about what we hear,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: what they stand for.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: You like women more than you like men?
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I like women, love women.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: I think you like white people more you like women.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I love bringing the contrarian because I don't hear that
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: talked about, because again I have a lot of.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: I have yet to hear you say one bad thing
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: about white people and their experience with white people, but
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: you have have.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: I said, women, I can tell that there's a thing.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: And like I said, our values come from trauma. You
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: you already said you were traumatized by women. You've had
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: negative experiences with women. I can imagine having a sister,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: two sisters, I believe right, as a man that's a jock,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: you're hanging out with white women.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: You got two black women that are asking you what
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: the fuck is up with you?
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I can imagine that because I don't have sisters, so
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: I only have friends, right, So I haven't had that
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: in the house relationship. Because when you know you can't
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: go nowhere, they can talk to you however they want.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: They could be on your ass. You go nowhere, you
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: might fight your sisters. You might really have a physical fight.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: You have physical fights with your sisters that can influence
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: how your experience with like you know, mommy wounds, right,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: were talking about mommy woms Men will grow up not
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: liking women because of their experience with their mother. So
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: if this man, who I'm hearing things in this conversation,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: whether it's the trauma from young having those sisters who
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: said they didn't like we got to think about what
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: he was saying this whole episode.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Yo, you're dealing with white women when you're dealing well,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: you got another white woman.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Black women who I said are more connected to the
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: culture than black men. I could see him probably having
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: an issue like why.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Y'all so, And again I think I mentioned the women thing,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: but I also mentioned the guys like it being able
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: to see it from both perspectives, like, Okay, it happened
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: to the hand at the hands of women, but it
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: happened to them at the hands of men, and so
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: it's like using both as an example of it's not either,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: it's it's there's a nature behind it, and so I
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: look at it like that again. So I of course
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I love black people. I love white people like I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: love all people. Bro love not do you like I like? Yeah, okay,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I love women. I don't necessarily like women. Why And
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: I think that it's it's I think that when when
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: when when women come up with these statements, we immediately
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: say no, no, no, right, like, homo what do you
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: call it? Socio erotic? What's it called? Homo erotic relationships
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: with your friends? Okay, women said about that. When women
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: say that about men, that you have a homo erotic
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: relationship with your friends.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what that means.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I like my friends, I love my friends, I love
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: my male friends.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: But they're using it in a negative sense. They're generously
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: saying that you you love and care more for your
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: male friends and will do more for your male friends
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: than you will do for them. That's that's why women
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: are saying it.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: It's safer. It's safer.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: That sounds funny, but I think when women hear that,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: they feel like, like, y'all niggas is gay or something
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: like that. Save for we have more real bonds with
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: our male friends than what we can do for them.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: Part were just there with our male friends existing that
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: hole in the bottom of my shoe.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: He don't give a fuck, he laughed.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: He give me one of his shoes beautifully. Yes, it's
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: safer for me to exist with them. I don't feel
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: as judged. I don't feel like I have to perform.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: I could just be.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: And also to the safe port, the safe portion of it.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: When you're dealing with somebody, women have the options to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: just walk away from me your friends, like your homeboys.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: You could be on your the worst thing that you've
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: ever did, and you could think of going.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: To be shot at some shit, and I'm supposed to go.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: I gotta go, yes, And I did not even mean to.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: It's so truly. I did not mean to.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Bring this up just because of what we were talking
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: about God and white people and women. I noticed that
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: there was a thing. I thought there was a thing
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: unless you say this is not But the women thing
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: came up right and I screened out of this. From
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: a woman that posted this on the internet the other day,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: she said, after living with a man, I realized I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: was not built for a real committed relationship right now.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Niggas like to be catered to to and to be honest.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: At my age, I rather do make up and take
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: pictures from my IG.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: That's real. That's a real that's a real conclusion. But
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: they we can't.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: We can't know. So that's what I don't like. I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: don't like that we are so demonized for being us. Like,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: it's just a lot of energy women are putting out there,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: you think women for us to learn them. Men love
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: more honestly than women. I saw an article that said that,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: and I kind of got up in there.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I think it's in there.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's subjected, but I kind of agree because quickly
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: in my situation, I dated this girl. Long story short,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I find this, Okay, you're tall, you're attractive, you love God,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I love the idea of you. There's no girl I've
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: ever been with. It didn't say I love me, But
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: like for me, did I think that she loved me?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Did she see me? No, she didn't see me. She
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: loved the idea of me. And I believe like love
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: and society, women and you chase the idea of love, love, love,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: love love, So it's almost baked in. And so I
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: agree from the premise of like bro love when a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: guy said he loves you, he loves you, he really
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: loves you, and so that's something that's interesting I agree with.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: So this is just yeah, I got a dip. Man.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: This is where I kind of I'm glad that we started,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: but damn I wish we could have finished these these
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: thoughts that I'm having troum.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: What do you think about what I said?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Real quick?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: You know, back to my answer to that when I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: said that women irritate me, I think the better word
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: is frustrate. And I think that we frustrate each other
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: because men and women are just so different and some
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: things are just hard to explain, and it's like, yo,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: we just are different. And to your point, how we
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: just feel safer amongst men, we get it. We get
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: each other with simpler creatures, we don't over complicate things,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: and with women, it could be frustrating, and I'm sure
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: they feel the same with us, But I also feel
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: like that's the beauty of it, Like that's the contrast,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: Like we're tractor to the opposite, but that opposite is
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  Speaker 4: still the opposite. So we don't think the same, we
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  Speaker 4: don't process information the same, so we're gonna have frustrating moments.
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  Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, I do like women,
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  Speaker 4: but they you know, it can be a frustrating balance
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  Speaker 4: and relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like women, And this ain't about not loving women. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I love my lady, I love most of my female
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  Speaker 2: Most of my friends are ladies or women. Right, most
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  Speaker 2: of my long last relationships are women. But the what
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  Speaker 2: was I What was I going to say? There was
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: a clip that I wound up posting again on Facebook, right,
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  Speaker 2: and it was about my fiance.
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  Speaker 3: Crashing her car, and.
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  Speaker 2: I gave her a mechanic that I knew would take
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  Speaker 2: care of her, that I knew wouldn't boost up the prices,
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  Speaker 2: that I knew wouldn't be like, oh, well, you got
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  Speaker 2: to do this too or whatever. I have a real
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  Speaker 2: relationship with him. Yeah, And she went and listened to
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  Speaker 2: the insurance company and some other shit and wind up
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  Speaker 2: getting hit for like fifteen thousand dollars of which we
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  Speaker 2: were responsible for five The insurance company suggested this other place,
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  Speaker 2: and still when they overcharged, the insurance company complained to us,
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  Speaker 2: and I begged her why are.
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  Speaker 3: You going there? Why are you going there?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: And she wanted up getting mad at me, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: at this whole situation because I didn't press the dudes.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, we got a family. What I'm supposed
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  Speaker 5: to do? You went to the people I told you,
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  Speaker 5: go to this other place. It's a legal thing. Now
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: we can shoot them or whatever, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: So we had to come out of our pockets. We
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  Speaker 5: lost five bits off of that, right.
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  Speaker 2: And the women in the room were like, well, you
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: want to lead how you want to lead, not how
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: we need you to lead.
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  Speaker 3: I can't have about to his face.
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  Speaker 1: I was stupified. And in the comments the women like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they ate you up, and.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, salute, I got a dip.
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  Speaker 3: Let's finish this conversation next week.
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  Speaker 1: I love y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all my brother, please tell him again where to find you?
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  Speaker 1: King? No underscore on all platforms, go to his platform.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing but inspirational video like yo, literally, you could just
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  Speaker 2: scroll from one to the next, and this niggas going
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  Speaker 2: in he's yelling at us and he not no white
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: people on his page.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, mind belief podcasts on all platforms. I
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: love all people even though whatever, I don't mind. But honestly, again,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: my message is to give you permission to be yourself
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  Speaker 1: and to have the real conversations in the conversation if
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  Speaker 1: one is rustling, struggling in a tough time. I know
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: we're smiling, but there's some sinking in private. It's to
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  Speaker 1: have those conversations to know that the Lord Jesus Christ
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  Speaker 1: loves you.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you, and sitting here, I know I'm
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: an antagonist now.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: It's hilarious but really good at what you do.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, my brother, Thank you, and I hope you
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  Speaker 2: know what's love for real, Love for real, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 2: so shameless podcast yesterday, because you locked this ship up,
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  Speaker 2: I will.
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  Speaker 3: I love you all so shameless. I'll be in there
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: later to holla and till next week.
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  Speaker 1: Peace.
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  Speaker 3: I'm them fucking, really fucking l A is texting me
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  Speaker 3: the whole time.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: He's like, yo, you, I don't want no money.
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  Speaker 1: Shameless, yo, so shameless, pod bro Fellas, what's hap appreciate it?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: So shameless, so shame with the God. Just had a
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: good conversation about three two hours. There you go, love love,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: what's love? Much love? Much love? They got the lives
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: check going. I was love appreciated Bro. How do y'all
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  Speaker 1: rotate you y