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#250: Cult of Chucky (2017) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  This is the end fucker. Welcome to What's Your Least
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  Favorite Scary Movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly, and the absurd in all of our
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  favorite. And least favorite scary movies?
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  Because we believe every horror movie rifely has its fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jesse. And welcome everybody back to
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  our Chucky movie coverage. We have Cult of Chucky up for
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  everybody this week. Yes.
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  And just as a reminder for those of you who like leave before our
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  cleaning up of stuff at the end of episodes, we did a schedule
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  swap for Terrifier 3 and Cult of Chucky.
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  Because while we had initially scheduled Terrifier 3 to release
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  shortly after the DV DS released, we didn't factor in
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  the time it would take to watch record, edit, draw, yeah,
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  etcetera, etcetera. So we will still be covering
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  Terrifier 3, it will just be coming out next week.
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  Yeah, next Thursday. Yeah, flip flop, that's all.
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  Yeah, so that's coming. So instead, we're gonna wrap up
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  not the franchise of Chucky, but the story, the movie continuity.
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  Chucky proper, Yeah. This is the last one of the
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  actual movie progression until we get to the show.
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  The next month, we'll be ending the Chucky coverage with the
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  remake. Yes, we will be covering the
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  remake. We do still think it's important
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  to discuss it, even though it's not Canon to the story we've
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  been following so far. It's.
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  Part of the franchise. That it is part of the franchise
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  and it is our duty to cover it. I'm afraid that I said next week
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  and I don't want to confuse people about her schedule
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  anymore. And that'll be next month.
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  OK, yes, next month we will be finishing up.
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  Yeah, the child's play, the totality of the coverage.
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  Yep. We'll be moving on to a new
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  franchise in February, yes. We won't be covering the Chucky
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  TV series on the podcast for a variety of reasons, most of
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  which being it would be hard to give it the proper like, love
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  and care that it needs with our format.
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  So we definitely encourage people to watch it, but that
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  just it's not going to be part of our show.
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  We'll never say never, you know, maybe things will change and
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  we'll be able to do it somehow. But as of right now, yeah, we
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  can't. So yeah.
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  But that's all I have by the way of announcement, so we can go
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  ahead and do poems on. Yeah.
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  All right. So last week we talked about
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  It's a wonderful knife and we wanted to ask everybody, which
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  Justin Long movie character would you prefer to have as your
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  mayor? All right, so the options you
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  have the I can't even remember his name in the movie.
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  Henry, Henry from It's a Wonderful night.
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  Henry Waters. You have his character from
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  Barbarian, Yes. His character from Waiting, yes.
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  We recognize that that's not a horror movie.
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  I guess it depends on who you ask.
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  It could be. I definitely gave me some some
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  scares, yeah. And finally, the Justin along
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  from Tusk. Wally.
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  Yeah. All right, so the results.
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  Nobody wants the wonderful knife one.
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  Well, we saw how that turned out.
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  Yeah, not good. The old mind control.
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  Yeah, it's stupid. Barbarian got 11% waiting at 58%
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  and Tusk 32. OK, so I I understand why people
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  got chose waiting because that's the most responsible, the most
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  likable, Justin Long out of all he.
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  Was offered a promotion to Assistant Manager.
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  He's management material. Yeah, Yeah.
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  I mean, that's kind of like the the track record.
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  It's gone Packer management material.
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  Yeah, and you know, I got some people explaining why they would
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  say Tusk, and usually it's the one that I like the most.
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  Is he? He just needed to win in that
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  movie. I mean, he kind of sucked.
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  I mean, that's kind of the thing with all Justin Long characters
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  is they usually kind of suck. But you know what?
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  I'm I'm actually going to agree. Like he needed that fucking win.
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  Tusk, the ending. The Tusk bums me the fuck out.
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  And you know what? But also maybe if his entire job
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  wasn't exploiting people that he thinks has funny tragedies
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  happening to them. I think there's a better way to
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  to learn this lesson and then turn into a walrus and then go
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  to agreeing. That he deserved to be turned
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  into a walrus. I'm just saying it makes him
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  less sympathetic. Then that's.
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  True. Not completely unsympathetic,
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  just less sympathetic. OK, which one are you wanting?
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  Obviously waiting Justin long. Waiting he.
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  Was management material and also he told off that one couple
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  which every server has wanted to do.
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  You know what makes this so tough is I don't care how much
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  of A douchebag he plays, he's such a fun douchebag to watch.
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  Like his his barbarian character is so fucking terrible but I
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  fucking love it. And we've covered all of these
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  movies except for waiting. That's true.
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  That's true. We have you can.
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  Listen to all of these Justin Long opinions.
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  Should be cover waiting. You let us know.
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  Patrons or patrons? Patrons, Bubbies, if you if you
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  want to make this happen for a bonus episode, just let us know.
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  Yeah, so OK, I'll choose him too.
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  The waiting Justin Long is the clearly the most qualified to be
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  mayor. Wow.
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  Yep. Yep, he sets a low bar, that's
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  for sure. OK, so I think we can go on into
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  Cult of Chucky now. Indeed.
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  All right, Colt of Chucky premiered August 24th, 2017 at
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  Frightfest. It had its at wide release
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  October 3rd, 2017 on streaming and Blu-ray.
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  We watched it on Blu-ray because we actually own that one on
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  Blu-ray. Yeah.
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  I think at this point, the only one we don't, the only ones we
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  don't own on Blu-ray, are Seed and Curse, right?
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  Nope. You bought seed, remember?
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  Oh yeah, it did. We don't.
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  We don't have Curse and we don't have the remake.
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  You keep forgetting that the remake exists.
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  I do keep forgetting. The remake.
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  And that's so strange because you're like a champion for it.
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  You're you're one of the few supporters out there for that
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  remake, and then you're not even acknowledging it.
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  Good I'm I think cuz I'm just thinking of the Canon storyline.
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  Yeah, that makes sense. So if you want to watch this
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  thing, it's not going to be streaming anywhere
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  unfortunately, so you'll have to rinse it, or you'll also have to
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  buy a Blu-ray or whatever. It is worth 3 multiple dollars.
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  Three and some change on Amazon, Apple, YouTube, Fandango at
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  home, all those places right there.
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  So it's not super expensive, it's a good.
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  Yes, yeah, it's it's worth, it's worth the price of entry for
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  sure. Written and directed by Don
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  Mancini, music by Joseph Laduccia, and special effects
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  makeup by, you guessed it, Tony Gardner.
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  Yeah. Starring Fiona Dourif as Nika,
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  Brad Dourif as Chucky, Alex Vincent returning as Andy,
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  Jennifer Tilley as Tiffany, Michael Farrell as Doctor Foley,
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  Allison, Don Dorian as Rachel, Adam Herding as Michael,
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  Elizabeth Rosen as Madeline, Grace Lynn Kong as Claire, and
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  Christine Elise returning as Kyle.
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  Briefly. Very, very briefly.
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  All right, which one is Rachel? Rachel, you know, I don't know,
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  she, she was the top listed person on the IMDb and I'm like,
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  well, she's got a she had to have been somebody, but I don't
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  remember her at all. Madeline.
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  She's not in the group therapy sessions.
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  Those are the ones. Those are the other patient.
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  And Malcolm, was she with that orderly?
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  Maybe. No, that was right.
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  That was Ashley. Who is This is a mystery, Who is
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  Rachel? Oh, that was Andy's date at the
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  beginning. Whoa, why did she get such high
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  billing? Maybe.
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  Maybe she like. Were you looking at order of
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  appearance? I don't think so.
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  Well, yeah, 'cause you wouldn't have gotten Christine Elise so
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  early. Well, I did dig for that one.
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  OK, you might have been looking at order of appearance then.
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  Could have been OK. No, but you got Nika right away
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  and Nika doesn't appear. OK, I.
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  I don't have a lot of rhyme or reason to this right here, OK?
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  Like, I just go in there and I'm picking up names left and right.
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  But I saw the name come up. I was like, I got it.
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  Throw it in there, I guess, because, like, she was right
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  there. So I was like, OK, you know,
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  this is Rachel. I will do like the information
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  on a movie ahead of time, like just to kind of prep myself, but
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  sometimes I'm like I can't remember who the main characters
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  are and IMDb is both loosey and goosey and how it likes to list
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  its cast sometimes. We've seen how I go.
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  It made me a fool today. Didn't even remember the fucking
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  characters. Yeah, 2 minutes of screen time,
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  if that. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't even
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  know her name. I would just say gun girl.
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  Girl that likes to talk about guns during dates.
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  Second Amendment woman. Yeah.
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  Yeah. OK, time for her favorite game.
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  Budget or bug? Ted bug.
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  Ted. Correct.
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  This is yet again another $5,000,000 going towards this.
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  It shared the same budget as Curse.
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  Yep. So I don't have opening box
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  office numbers because it was straight to streaming, but I do
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  have the first month of sales on physical media and that was 2.3
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  million. All right.
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  So pretty sad. Yeah.
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  IMDb 5.3 out of 10. Hurts my feelings.
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  Yeah, that's that's not terrible.
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  It's not terrible, but I think this is a good movie.
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  This is a good movie, so that's why I chose the following theme
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  for the three movies to compare it to dumb movies from 2017.
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  Okay, these are just movies. I'm like, that was dumb, you
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  know? And we've seen all of them, so I
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  can definitively say that they are dumb.
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  Not bad necessarily, but they're dumb.
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  OK? And you wanna know how we're
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  gonna kick this off? We're kicking it off with Death
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  House. Oh my God, that's dumb and bad.
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  That's that is dumb and bad. We have seen that one time.
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  For anybody not familiar, it is a movie.
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  That is, it labeled itself as The Expendables of the horror
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  genre. So they got every horror icon
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  they could possibly get and shove them into the same movie.
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  And it's a fucking mess. We own it on DVD and we're gonna
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  watch it one day again. Travis asks.
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  I'd say about weekly. He's like, I think we should
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  watch Death House again. What do you?
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  Think the only thing is we got to get plastered for it.
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  Yeah. I can't watch that thing so bro
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  we. Watched it on a wedding
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  anniversary too. You guys, it's this, this has
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  like legend status in our household.
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  It does it's and I still don't even know what it's about.
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  No. Like honestly, it's the most
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  confusing movie ever. Yeah, so that Released September
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  2nd, 2017. Don't have the budget?
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  Worldwide gross $28,000. IMDb Score 3 out of 10.
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  Generous. Yeah, that is generous.
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  Yeah. Holy shit.
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  Second movie Wish upon. So do you remember that one?
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  Yeah, that's one of Jesse's genre specials.
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  Oh, yes, it is. I remember we watched this movie
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  in theaters. Yeah.
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  And I remember thinking the entire time, this is dumb.
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  I think you know what? I submitted this as a dumb movie
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  for me is when that. Elevator.
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  Scene. That's the scene whenever her
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  dad is like playing saxophone. I'm like, that's what the fuck
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  is happening here. Oh saxophone dad.
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  OK, this is dumb. That's exactly what was going
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  through my brain then. All right, that released July
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  14th, 2017, $12 million budget, $23 million gross and a 5.1 on
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  IMDb and the final movie The Baba Man.
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  That was my birthday, maybe that year we saw it in theaters.
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  We saw so many dumb movies in 2017.
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  Don't think it, don't say it. Don't.
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  Say it, don't say it, don't say it, don't.
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  Think so that released January 13th, 2017.
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  Budget of 7.4 million. Worldwide gross 29 million.
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  That much? That much Hey we who are we to
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  we saw this in theaters. We started watching it on Pluto
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  the other day and honestly got kind of sucked in again.
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  I was like, it's, it could be worse, you know?
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  Like it's not bad. I like the concept of the
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  character. It's a stupid name.
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  Yeah, but I like it because sometimes scary things have dumb
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  names. The boogeyman.
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  That's true. Like, I mean, now you know that
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  it's scary, but like back in the day, you hear boogeyman like
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  what? What is that supposed to be?
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  Either way? So the IMDBI think it's where I
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  left it 4.3. OK, I'll take it.
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  Yeah. I mean, I think that's perfectly
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  in line with that movie, right? There.
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  That's the correct score, yeah. OK, let's do some tag lines.
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  I got two OK, there wasn't one on the posters, so I'm just like
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  doing them in order that they appeared.
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  I. Hate direct to stream posters
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  not having tag lines. I don't understand.
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  Like, you're still selling the movie.
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  Yeah, like you actually. I feel like it's more difficult
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  to sell a movie on streaming than it is like out in like on
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  physical stuff. Like you go into a movie theater
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  or like go into like a video rental store 'cause you just
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  browse. You have like what's what's the
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  term where you have too many options and it makes it
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  difficult to make a decision just because of the sheer amount
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  of options you. Have like choice paralysis,
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  something like it's something like that.
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  Yeah, I mean, that's basically so you need something to sell.
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  So the first one, friends, Cilian, remember.
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  That's OK. Yeah, I mean, and honestly, like
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  that kind of ties up Andy's storyline in the movies pretty
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  well. Yeah, it really, Yeah.
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  I mean, I feel like that was made because of him.
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  And the second one you may feel a little prick.
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  I bet it is a little prick. I was thinking like, is that is
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  that targeted at Chucky or is it because they like did the little
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  thing at the? Beginning.
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  It's because of the needles, yeah, that I was referring to
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  Foley. I thought you're OK.
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  Yeah, this guy, a lot of waiters.
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  Then you could either be Foley, Chucky or people just stabbing
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  Nico. Like, damn, you see this shit?
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  Yeah. OK.
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  Fun facts. OK all.
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  Right, so Diamond C began writing this back in 2015.
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  He wanted to not do the same type of movie that they did with
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  Curse. So Curse was really in attempt
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  at going back to basics and trying to make it a pure horror
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  film. This time he just didn't want to
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  do that again. So he wanted to try and
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  reintroduce some of the camp elements back into the movie,
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  but he thought that going full camp right away would not be a
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  good idea. So he needed to tone it down a
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  little bit. And the scene that he references
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  the most is like a way that he did.
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  That is the scene where Tiffany comes in and speaks with Nika
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  and Dr. Foley. He said, like you, you look at
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  her and she's dressed like a not normal person.
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  You could tell there's something over the top about her, but you
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  needed to ground it just a little bit to make it still not
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  super campy. It's like, to the point to where
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  I guess, like Seed at Chucky levels, where that kind of
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  scared away a lot of the fan base.
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  Yeah. So that makes sense.
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  Yeah. They walked like a tight little
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  balance with that right there. He felt like kept keeping the
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  characters and actors is a good way of adding a bit of like
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  emotional depth to the storyline.
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  Well, cuz we want to know what happens with Nika and it was
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  also nice to find out what happens with Andy.
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  Yeah, it's nice that they're introducing new characters, but
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  keeping the characters from the original.
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  And I was reading an interview and he was talking about how a
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  lot of franchises don't really do that.
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  They just kind of bounce on to the next thing over and over
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  again. But this one right here is one
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  of the few franchises that has like a consistent continuity.
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  It's I'd say it's either it's this and saw they're both really
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  good about it. And I guess Scream.
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  Yeah, but yeah, it's not something you see too often.
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  But this one right here, they have a thing where they are
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  keeping actors from the original movies, too.
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  So like, even child Andy, like little Alex Vincent, is now
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  playing grown Andy. Yeah, same with Christine Elise.
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  Yeah, and he kind of, I think one of the reasons that that's
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  going on is he was talking about how like back when he would
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  watch Bewitched, he was always frustrated that they like
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  recasted Darren in that show. So he didn't want that to be a
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  thing that you get attached to the people playing the
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  characters too. So when you see them, you kind
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  of have that nostalgia and you know, you tie it all into the
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  person and the character all together.
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  Slightly different era here, but I always think of the different
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  Ant vivs in the Cosby Show or the different Becky's and
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  Roseanne. Yeah, I didn't watch any of
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  those shows, but and I didn't watch B watch TV.
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  But you know what, I'll take everybody's word for it here.
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  It's kind of nice seeing these characters come back at least.
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  So no surprise they had to reduce budget compared to back
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  in the day. So before they were using full
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  blown animatronics back on like Seed of Chucky and Bride.
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  So it was pretty advanced technology.
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  But now they're not really able to do that so much.
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  Yeah. They're not doing the things
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  where they have the elevated force where they can do the
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  puppetry underneath. So for this movie, Tony Gardner
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  in this scene basically did full on full puppetry like above.
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  Oh. Like marionettes?
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  Not always, but I think some of it's like having a rigged to,
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  they are able to do that more now than they were back then
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  because they were able to use modern technology to like remove
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  the wires and stuff. So even though we took a hit
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  with the special effects, with the animatronics no longer
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  really being a thing, we at least have, you know, puppetry
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  and modern technology being able to make that a thing that they
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  could do. Don Mancini always wanted to
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  have multiple chuckies in the series as far back as Child's
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  Play 3, but budget constraints back then we're also thing
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  prohibiting that. So they were able to get it
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  going this time around. And it was actually a studio
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  exec that suggested that they have subtle differences to be
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  able to differentiate, differentiate, differentiate
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  them. Thank you.
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  Oh my God, so they actually came up with nicknames with all of
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  the different chuckies. I wonder what their nicknames
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  are cuz I was giving them nicknames in my notes.
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  So, OK, and I don't know which one's which.
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  So let's figure out if we can figure out which one's which.
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  This one's obvious first one buzz cut.
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  OK I called him mullet cuz it was like.
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  Yeah, Mullet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was the
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  same thing. Mullet.
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  Chucky in my notes. Second one Ragamuffin.
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  I think that's the one that gets buried because I didn't
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  differentiate them because for a while he was with Madeline, so I
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  didn't really have to differentiate in my notes.
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  But it was after he like came out of the grave that I referred
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  to him as what did I? I might have just referred to
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  him as Burial Chucky. What does ragamuffin mean?
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  Usually I've always heard it in context of like a child outside
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  playing messy, carefree. They're kind of dirty.
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  Yeah. It's totally think of like our
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  nieces and nephews after they've been running around.
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  Or Italian when she goes out in like a rainy day.
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  Yeah, little ragamuffins. Little ragamuffin puppy.
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  All right. Well, I guess that leaves this
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  one pretty obvious. So Edwardian is the other one.
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  I guess that is probably the one that Andy kept alive.
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  No, I think that's cuz there were three chuckies running
• 20:47
  around at the end. Hold on, the one Andy kept.
• 20:49
  You got four names here. I got another name after this,
• 20:52
  and I know which one this one is.
• 20:53
  OK, Chucky. It can be Nikka.
• 20:56
  It's gotta be that Chucky. I feel like that's referring to.
• 21:02
  Well, listen, it's something more historical that I just
• 21:05
  don't know. I've heard the term, but I
• 21:07
  couldn't explain it to you, so I sure.
• 21:10
  OK, well, we'd have to look it up.
• 21:11
  I feel stupid right now and I don't like feeling stupid.
• 21:14
  Hold on, I'm editing so I'll be able to.
• 21:16
  I don't mind what Edwardian means.
• 21:18
  OK. Yeah.
• 21:19
  OK. These definitions are not really
• 21:23
  helpful relating to or a characteristic of the reign of
• 21:28
  King Edward the 7th or a person who lived during the Edwardian
• 21:34
  period is the definition I. Got very tautological.
• 21:37
  Let's look up King Edward the 7th.
• 21:40
  Here, here, this is something else here of relating to or
• 21:44
  characteristic of Edward the 7th of England or his age,
• 21:47
  especially of clothing marked by the hourglass silhouette of for
• 21:50
  women and long narrow fitted suits and high collars for men.
• 21:55
  I still feel like they're still doesn't really help.
• 21:58
  Yeah, I don't really know why would they call them this.
• 22:02
  I'm looking at pictures of Edwardian shit and it's just
• 22:05
  like old pictures. Hold on, Edwardian Chucky.
• 22:09
  I'm gonna Google search that. OK.
• 22:12
  You got something? Edwardian area, which covered
• 22:15
  Edward's reign. It was named after him,
• 22:17
  coincided with the start of a new century, inherited
• 22:19
  significant changes in technology and society.
• 22:22
  You think that could be the new Chucky doll that they did?
• 22:25
  I think yes, cuz I think it's the one that like went and
• 22:28
  discovered the new. Yeah, the one that very simple.
• 22:31
  Trades, Yeah, yeah, I think because, yeah, like he's
• 22:34
  introducing the new like era of the Chucky franchise.
• 22:39
  That makes sense. That's deep.
• 22:40
  Maybe, I don't know, we might be overthinking this.
• 22:43
  Maybe we just missed a costume changers.
• 22:45
  All right, let's bring it down to something dumb and easy that
• 22:48
  we'll. Get OK.
• 22:49
  The final Chucky was Evil Dead Chucky, and it's because he had
• 22:52
  the drill attached to his arm. Yeah.
• 22:55
  So, yeah. All right.
• 22:57
  And finally, there were, if you were thinking about it,
• 23:01
  references to Glenn and Glenda in the original movie.
• 23:05
  However, it got cut despite Don Nancy wanting them to be a part
• 23:09
  of the movie. It must have been a studio
• 23:11
  decision. So I get the impression that
• 23:16
  they were really, really pushing to just get away from that
• 23:19
  because it it sounded like it kind of almost killed the
• 23:22
  franchise. But also like it did feel like
• 23:26
  weird to not have Glenn and Glenda mentioned.
• 23:29
  Especially whenever, like, Tiffany was talking about Alice,
• 23:33
  like, you know, it was kind of nice having a kid around.
• 23:36
  Yeah, you guys have kids. Yeah, and she even makes
• 23:40
  reference to the fact that she is still canonically in Jennifer
• 23:45
  Tilley's body. Yeah, exactly.
• 23:46
  So it, it felt really weird to just straight up admit that,
• 23:51
  even though you're referencing everything else surrounding that
• 23:54
  whole thing. So yeah, I don't know.
• 23:56
  They just, you know, I'm glad that Glenn and Glenda do.
• 24:00
  They do return in the show if anybody's curious, but yeah,
• 24:04
  it's just really weird to have it left out of this right here.
• 24:07
  OK, so OK, that's it for my fun facts.
• 24:10
  All right, all right. All right, so let's kick it off
• 24:13
  with their good, bad, ugly, and absurd.
• 24:16
  So Jesse, what did you think was good about this movie?
• 24:19
  I love the concept of multiple chuckies because fuck I never
• 24:23
  looked up voodoo facts. Sorry y'all.
• 24:26
  Man, I forgot that that was when you OK whatever.
• 24:29
  I, I, it's, we've been really busy all weekend, and I fell
• 24:33
  asleep and just woke up a few minutes ago, and now we're
• 24:35
  recording. Sorry.
• 24:37
  That's OK. So this felt like the natural
• 24:40
  course for how this should go. Because what do you do?
• 24:42
  Like, we've done everything we can with Chucky to make him a
• 24:45
  threat. You know, we've shown what he
• 24:46
  can survive. We've shown how he sneaks
• 24:51
  around. We've shown him in different
• 24:53
  settings. Like, what else are you gonna do
• 24:54
  to keep upping the ante? Because that's what you have to
• 24:56
  do in storytelling. Like, how do you keep making him
• 24:59
  more of a threat? Oh, let's make a bunch of them.
• 25:02
  And let's introduce this idea of, like, OK, God, which one is
• 25:07
  the bad guy? Oh, just kidding.
• 25:09
  They're all the bad guy. Yeah.
• 25:10
  Yeah. And I think that was a really
• 25:12
  clever way to do it, especially in the beginning.
• 25:14
  Like, we've got these two Chucky dolls.
• 25:16
  Nick is trying to figure out which one's the evil 1, and I
• 25:19
  just love the twist being that they're all the evil 1 and even
• 25:23
  if they come in and they're neutral, they can become evil.
• 25:26
  I like that, too. Yeah.
• 25:27
  And you kind of think for a second whenever Andy sends the
• 25:30
  one in, like, oh, is there something?
• 25:31
  Did he do something? Did he learn voodoo?
• 25:34
  I mean, because canonically, it's easy to learn in this
• 25:36
  franchise. They have a Voodoo For Dummies
• 25:37
  website at. This point, yeah, you don't even
• 25:39
  have to buy the big thick telephone book looking thing.
• 25:43
  You can become a voodoo expert just like that.
• 25:45
  So I thought, you know, maybe, oh, is Andy, did he put himself
• 25:49
  in a Chucky doll? Like, I don't know.
• 25:50
  It would have been interesting. That could be interesting maybe.
• 25:55
  I I don't know if I'd like that corruption of Andy's character.
• 25:59
  No, no. So you'd rather him be a gun
• 26:03
  tone Second Amendment 11 mofo? He's not a set.
• 26:06
  He's very moderate about the Second Amendment.
• 26:08
  He still believes in waiting periods and background checks.
• 26:11
  I just love that's how we open this movie.
• 26:13
  I say, Oh, so you like the Second Amendment?
• 26:15
  Don't you Like Jesus? I'm just here having a a date
• 26:19
  and some wine with you. OK.
• 26:20
  You got anything else? I just, you know, I that's,
• 26:25
  that's what I think really works about this movie for me.
• 26:27
  Like, you know, we already talked about having the
• 26:29
  returning cast and returning characters helps a lot with it,
• 26:36
  you know, and you've got sinister plot lines on the side
• 26:39
  as well with Doctor Foley. He's a fucking creep and that
• 26:42
  guy just gets typecast. If you're wondering where he
• 26:45
  looks familiar, he's the creepy professor slash lawyer who hits
• 26:50
  on Elle Woods in Legally Blonde. So.
• 26:52
  Yeah, Jesse is just. Apparently his fucking bag.
• 26:57
  He's re cast in the show too, but as a good guy.
• 27:00
  Yeah. Not a good guy, but you know, a
• 27:02
  good person. So I just, I don't know, I think
• 27:06
  it's A and it's very stylistic too, because part of me wants to
• 27:11
  be like, there's no way that there's only like 5 patients in
• 27:14
  this whole place. I didn't even think about that.
• 27:17
  But we have these like beautiful, creepy, just bright
• 27:20
  white walls, and it's a whole aesthetic.
• 27:23
  And there's one scene, even like, as upsetting as the scene
• 27:25
  is when Foley is hypnotizing Nika, that the way the flashes
• 27:29
  of light are happening and the music is happening and his
• 27:32
  monologuing over top of it, it is so chilling just in and of
• 27:38
  itself. And I think it was really well
• 27:40
  done. I think it was very good
• 27:41
  directing on Don Mancini's part. Yeah, I feel like you can see
• 27:46
  his progression as a director as far like, he started with Seed
• 27:50
  of Chucky and you know, then he didn't do a bad job, but I feel
• 27:53
  like he's really like, by this one, he's kind of gotten to
• 27:56
  where he's feeling more comfortable, I feel.
• 27:58
  And I do think that he definitely struck a good balance
• 28:01
  between horror and camp in this one.
• 28:03
  The camp is there. It's very much alive and well,
• 28:05
  which I feel like I generally like in the franchise.
• 28:09
  I I mean, it's about a killer doll.
• 28:12
  Let's let's just lean into that. You know what I mean?
• 28:15
  But I like we do have some of those genuine and scary moments.
• 28:18
  So I think that that's all really, really well done.
• 28:24
  OK, yeah, one of the things that I had too was how they handled
• 28:28
  the multiple chuckies. The idea itself is cool, but I
• 28:32
  love the way that it was executed.
• 28:34
  I do like having them all be like a little bit different
• 28:38
  because it is nice, you know, visually, personality wise, I
• 28:40
  think that they're all pretty consistent though.
• 28:42
  Like it was really funny. Like I like seeing him having
• 28:45
  like more of him to play off on. My favorite scene in the movie
• 28:49
  is whenever all three of them are together.
• 28:51
  Yes. And they like, I love the moment
• 28:54
  of them arguing over who gets to kill Andy.
• 28:56
  And they're talking about who had the worst day.
• 28:58
  And he goes hello. And they're like, yes,
• 29:00
  absolutely. You're correct.
• 29:02
  You've been through enough. My favorite part from that, I
• 29:04
  was like, Oh my God, this is the most fun I've had in my entire
• 29:06
  life. And then the other ones like
• 29:08
  you've only been alive for 2 1/2 minutes and they all laugh at
• 29:11
  him and then he's like laughing at himself too.
• 29:14
  Like it's just so cool. I love it so much.
• 29:17
  I I really do feel like they had some interesting and creative
• 29:20
  kills this time too. Kind of like what you said
• 29:22
  before with how you could tell that Chucky still learned how to
• 29:25
  be more creative with this kills.
• 29:27
  That's still the case with this one right here, that death with
• 29:30
  Claire where the compressed air shoots up into the sky mirror
• 29:35
  and it just or skylight and it just shatters on top of her.
• 29:38
  That was really, really creative.
• 29:40
  I liked that one. I was just.
• 29:41
  Saying skylight. I've been struggling since we
• 29:43
  watched it to remember the term I wrote Ceiling window.
• 29:46
  I knew there was an actual word for it.
• 29:48
  Yeah, skylight. That's it.
• 29:50
  Yep. And I I like the the setting of
• 29:54
  this too. I think it's cool having it in a
• 29:56
  snowy place. It's it's fitting for the time
• 29:58
  of year that we're watching and talking about this.
• 30:01
  And I always like it when you take these movies and you mess
• 30:06
  around with the seasons with them when you can.
• 30:08
  You know what I mean? Like.
• 30:09
  Again, we've got that like aesthetic essence that's
• 30:12
  happening in this. So like that snow constantly
• 30:14
  falling. It's a motif throughout the
• 30:16
  movie and it looks really pretty.
• 30:19
  It's just like it. It has a visual impact.
• 30:22
  Yeah, it really does. It like really has an influence
• 30:25
  on how you feel like the response you have to everything
• 30:28
  happening and the like the last movie, I feel like the puppetry
• 30:33
  and animatronics or the designs were a little bit weak, but I
• 30:37
  feel like they corrected that this time around.
• 30:40
  The first Chucky that we get still a little off compared to
• 30:45
  the original Chucky, but they made steps in the right
• 30:48
  direction. I think it's mostly whenever
• 30:51
  he's active, whenever it's a normal good guy doll, it goes
• 30:55
  back to being the classic good guy doll look.
• 30:57
  But as soon as he starts moving his eyes, like the facial
• 31:00
  structure is way different than what it used to be, but they did
• 31:04
  a good job with it. The puppetry was really good.
• 31:07
  Everything came out looking really good in this.
• 31:09
  So I'm I'm impressed. It was it was a step in the
• 31:11
  right direction. All right, so bad stuff.
• 31:15
  What'd you not like? I think most of the things that
• 31:18
  I would peg is bad are really more bad because they kind of
• 31:20
  like hit my ugly sensor. You know, I do think that there
• 31:25
  are some like things that like are just general inaccuracies,
• 31:29
  like again, how empty the hospital is.
• 31:32
  And I'm sure that's a budget thing and it's an aesthetic
• 31:34
  thing. The fact that there's not enough
• 31:36
  staff, you wouldn't just have two staff.
• 31:40
  Two orderlies in Carlos. Yeah, like you wouldn't just
• 31:43
  have two people that rotate plus Carlos.
• 31:46
  Like, that doesn't make any sense.
• 31:47
  And especially like things where somebody is on suicide watch,
• 31:51
  generally, that's like you've got different levels with that.
• 31:55
  So there would be different levels of like, supervision
• 31:59
  happening, which you can't do if you've only got one person
• 32:02
  there. And also the fucking Sharp store
• 32:06
  not being locked. Yeah, like not only not locked,
• 32:09
  but very clearly labeled and unlocked.
• 32:11
  That's bananas. So just like little things like
• 32:16
  that that, you know, pick up to me where I'm like, this is very
• 32:19
  much a movie made by somebody who didn't like really research
• 32:23
  the setting, which I whatever the setting was only it it it
• 32:27
  wasn't critical to the overall story of the movie, these things
• 32:33
  that I was seeing, you know, like, is it just more like kind
• 32:37
  of nitpick to me? Yeah, these are the type of
• 32:40
  problems that you always run into with movies and settings
• 32:43
  like this. Anytime you take it to a
• 32:44
  hospital of any kind, like Halloween to, that's what a lot
• 32:48
  of people say Scream for. Jill's just going on a fucking
• 32:51
  like rampage through the hospital at the end of the
• 32:53
  movie, going towards Sydney and all that.
• 32:57
  So yeah, that's a legitimate criticism.
• 32:59
  My bad stuff for this. I hate to say it because I like
• 33:03
  it at the same time, but bringing Alex Vinson back for
• 33:07
  Andy, I mean, I'm sorry, but he he worked as a child actor, but
• 33:11
  as an adult actor, I don't think he quite has the chops anymore
• 33:15
  to do it. His acting was a little bit
• 33:17
  subpar. I kind of felt him trying to get
• 33:22
  back into the play, like he jumped from being seven years
• 33:26
  old in Child's Play to to now he's playing a full grown adult.
• 33:31
  So he kind of had to channel all of that and I could feel him
• 33:35
  trying to get his bearings with it.
• 33:38
  Yeah, and I, I haven't looked at his stuff enough to really know
• 33:43
  if he kept up acting between those movies and now.
• 33:48
  But yeah, I'm, I just, you know, it is what it is.
• 33:53
  But it's cool to see Alex Vinson actually be able to reprise that
• 33:57
  role. It's not the most important
• 33:59
  thing for it to be able to like, knock it out.
• 34:01
  But any time that he was on screen acting, I could tell that
• 34:06
  there was a noticeable drop in quality compared to the rest of
• 34:10
  the cast. Like when you have people like
• 34:11
  Fiona who are out there acting the way they are.
• 34:15
  Yeah, and again, I don't know if it's an acting thing with him so
• 34:18
  much as like this specific character, like trying to find
• 34:20
  him as an adult, you know? It could be, but it's a
• 34:23
  consistent thing, OK, even into the TV series for me.
• 34:28
  I disagree, but I respect where you're coming from with that.
• 34:31
  And the other thing I have is his whole thing in this movie.
• 34:37
  Andy's that is. What does it add to the story?
• 34:41
  It's basically a Side Story that ultimately amounts to nothing
• 34:46
  because even at the point at the end of the movie when he makes
• 34:48
  it to the hospital, to the like a asylum, all it amounts to is
• 34:54
  him getting locked up in there at the end of it.
• 34:57
  And he really has no encounter with the main characters.
• 35:00
  Like he encounters a Chucky but it's a brief encounter.
• 35:04
  No, I am definitely going to disagree with you on this
• 35:06
  because it raises the stakes because you think he's going to
• 35:08
  get there in time to save Nikka and it doesn't happen.
• 35:11
  I mean, you can argue that with most things in in a mood, like
• 35:14
  what is the point? Like ultimately when you do
• 35:16
  that, you get down to what is the point of a movie in the
• 35:18
  first place? I guess, but he was just kind of
• 35:21
  sidelined the entire time and he didn't really do much.
• 35:23
  I guess he introduced the third Chucky.
• 35:26
  He introduced the third Chucky or I guess technically 4th
• 35:30
  Chucky, but also he, like I said, he created that element of
• 35:35
  like, oh, is this somebody that's going to be able to save
• 35:38
  Nika? Like, and I also think that if
• 35:41
  he wasn't here, we'd be saying, well, didn't we talk about how
• 35:45
  Andy, you know, proclaimed all these years that his doll
• 35:49
  committed these murders? We saw him at the end of Curse
• 35:52
  of Chucky. Why wouldn't he be saying
• 35:55
  something? I feel like if he wasn't here,
• 35:56
  we'd be asking these questions. I guess but he was barely like.
• 36:00
  I mean, if you didn't stick around till after the credits of
• 36:03
  the last movie, you wouldn't even know that he was still
• 36:06
  present. Plus, I also think when you
• 36:08
  think of this in terms of the entire series, not just a
• 36:11
  continuation from the last movie, it it brings back up, you
• 36:14
  know, his storyline, like where would he be nowadays?
• 36:18
  So I think in terms of like overall ARC, it works.
• 36:23
  OK, well that's fine I guess if it works for you.
• 36:29
  I just was thinking the entire time like what's the point?
• 36:32
  OK. OK, let's move on to ugly.
• 36:35
  OK, well, obviously Doctor Foley, that fucking creep.
• 36:38
  Yeah, everything about him. ECT doesn't really work like
• 36:42
  that anymore. The orderliest that we're
• 36:44
  performing the ECT on her, just calling her a pincushion.
• 36:47
  That's fucking rude. She's conscious and can hear
• 36:50
  you. I feel like we should specify
• 36:52
  ECT is electrotherapy. Yeah.
• 36:54
  Yeah, for anybody not aware. It like the way they just like
• 37:00
  call Malcolm multiple Malcolm. That's that's just it's a harsh
• 37:05
  nickname and reducing him to his diagnosis.
• 37:08
  I don't like stuff like that. And I, I think also like we
• 37:13
  could probably go into the analysis of the diagnosis that
• 37:17
  they've been given and how it's portrayed on screen.
• 37:20
  But we'll, we'll save that. Yeah, I was gonna say it like.
• 37:23
  I feel like that would be a whole other podcast.
• 37:25
  I feel like a lot of the things on here were like super
• 37:28
  stereotypical portrayals of these diseases, much depth.
• 37:36
  It's just like, oh, here's the thing that defines that thing.
• 37:39
  So let's make them, let's Max them out on those traits and
• 37:42
  nothing else. Yeah.
• 37:45
  DID is very rare and it isn't just going to be like assuming
• 37:50
  you're a famous person in different states like it.
• 37:55
  The same thing with the schizophrenic.
• 37:56
  Patient. Yeah, like, I mean, I don't who
• 38:00
  what do I know, but I wouldn't imagine under the care of
• 38:03
  professionals that she would be having episodes that severe.
• 38:06
  Well, and especially if she's. It's not just that they're in a
• 38:09
  hospital, they're in like a psychiatric inmate facility.
• 38:13
  So they probably would be on court ordered medications.
• 38:18
  Exactly, that's what I'm saying. And medication.
• 38:19
  Like is, I mean, it helps with schizophrenia.
• 38:22
  You're not gonna be it. Does wonders for schizophrenia
• 38:25
  to the point that people with schizophrenia will be like,
• 38:28
  cool, don't need to take my meds anymore.
• 38:31
  That's why it's such a cyclical disease and that's why they come
• 38:33
  out with these long lasting shots.
• 38:35
  Yeah. So that's probably.
• 38:37
  The the ugly thing that I would say for this, I guess you could
• 38:39
  even throw it in with the bad. But yeah, the portrayal of these
• 38:43
  these diseases were kind of exaggerated.
• 38:46
  Yes, very, very. Hollywood effect, Yeah.
• 38:51
  OK then. Absurd.
• 38:53
  Oh, definitely. The the multiple chuckies at the
• 38:56
  end, their little conversations, and I mean absurd in the yes
• 39:01
  with. It like.
• 39:02
  I genuinely laughed. Out and they were all just
• 39:06
  laughing at each other and and even.
• 39:09
  More absurd than that is the fact that the Chuckies are so
• 39:13
  precious about their hair. Hello.
• 39:16
  Have you seen what you're sporting up top?
• 39:19
  It's not like you're taking the best care of your hair.
• 39:23
  It's like those people. That you can tell which decade
• 39:27
  they thrived in. And then you see like, oh, that
• 39:31
  person had a great time in the 70s because they are still
• 39:34
  rocking that style well and like also.
• 39:37
  People that take a lot of pride in how long their hair is.
• 39:41
  And this is not taking into like a cultural or religious stuff.
• 39:45
  This is purely aesthetic. But like the people that are
• 39:47
  like, my hair is super long and I'm super proud of it.
• 39:50
  But it's like, girl, boy, they, them, whatever you prefer, Yeah.
• 39:55
  You. Have all kinds of split ends.
• 39:57
  You need to take care of that shit so you have long.
• 40:01
  And healthy hair. And that's like Chucky is one of
• 40:04
  those. I was like, look how long my
• 40:06
  hair is and it's like, OK, but can we maybe get some
• 40:09
  conditioner up here and up in here?
• 40:11
  I like the buzz cut mullet. Chucky.
• 40:13
  I thought it did. Wonders for his facial
• 40:16
  structures. He did Tyra Banks, Mia Farah in
• 40:21
  Rosemary's Baby. I'm just a.
• 40:24
  Supporter of mullets, you know I'm here for you.
• 40:27
  Give me a like a true party, like a Joe Dirt Chucky mullet
• 40:31
  right there. You know, I would like to see
• 40:33
  that and I like that they do. Have fun with the hair in the
• 40:37
  series too. Yeah, they do, yeah.
• 40:40
  My absurd for this is that they fucking sell these chuckies at
• 40:46
  Hot topic in this universe and you know that also can be thrown
• 40:51
  into the ugly because these are dolls that are like have a whole
• 40:55
  history of them being related to like horrific murders.
• 40:58
  I don't think that they should be like mass produced and sold
• 41:01
  in fucking hot topic of all places.
• 41:04
  Can I also add the? Statistics on how rare different
• 41:06
  good guy dolls are like for Yeah. 2% of them were named
• 41:11
  Chucky. That's like, that's insane.
• 41:14
  Yeah, a nerd. I.
• 41:16
  Wish I wish they could have thrown out a NECA collectibles
• 41:21
  and then we could have like a whole like Avid and Costello
• 41:24
  type bit of like NECA Nico Nico Yeah, that would be.
• 41:28
  Funny, Nico. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:30
  See, I just confused myself. So they could have had fun with
• 41:33
  that. I mean, right now I.
• 41:34
  Mean they couldn't. Is it?
• 41:36
  Is it NECA? Or Nico.
• 41:37
  It's Neca. Nika in the C.
• 41:40
  CAI. Believe that?
• 41:42
  See. Yeah.
• 41:43
  I just it and this is what fucks with me like as a human person
• 41:47
  is because of Nika, the character fans of.
• 41:51
  Fans of these figures are probably screaming at us.
• 41:54
  I know. Probably.
• 41:55
  Both. Oh, I know some of them are our
• 41:57
  friends too. That listen to this.
• 41:59
  I'm sorry. Please don't come for us.
• 42:01
  I read a lot of words, but I don't say a lot of words out
• 42:04
  loud. Yeah.
• 42:06
  The other one that I had is Chucky's conflicted feelings
• 42:12
  towards Doctor Foley, because. Like every time he like kill.
• 42:17
  This guy like take. Notes.
• 42:18
  Yeah, he's just like keep and it happens the same way each time.
• 42:21
  Like it's always in his office and he always bashes him in the
• 42:24
  head with a glass. He's like, I don't really feel
• 42:26
  like killing him yet because like I'm just, I don't know what
• 42:29
  to do right now. This is and again this.
• 42:31
  Is one of those things that I really love in horror movies,
• 42:34
  one of those tropes, the honor among thieves type things where
• 42:37
  even bad guys are like, hey, man, you're crossing a line.
• 42:40
  Yeah. Like I I love that trope.
• 42:43
  So I'm glad that they're playing with it.
• 42:46
  Yeah. The way that is really funny
• 42:48
  because Chucky does mostly reprehensible things.
• 42:50
  So yeah, like this person that's like.
• 42:52
  So comically like I am a. Canonical child murderer.
• 42:57
  Yeah, even this. Is too much.
• 42:59
  What the fuck, dude? Yeah, but maybe.
• 43:03
  Yeah, I mean. Like that it just gives them
• 43:06
  something to actually think about.
• 43:08
  OK, what are you rating this? Oh, I'd say this is an 8.
• 43:11
  And a half OK, this is a very solid movie and like I said, a
• 43:14
  lot of these are just nitpicks on my end.
• 43:18
  Just the the psychology degrees in me can't let some of that
• 43:23
  stuff go. Yeah, I agree.
• 43:24
  I think that. This one, I like this one better
• 43:26
  than curse. I do.
• 43:28
  Yeah, it's. It's really good.
• 43:30
  This is actually I think our second time watching it.
• 43:33
  Or third maybe, I can't remember.
• 43:36
  We haven't watched it very much. We haven't watched it very much.
• 43:39
  Because we tend to stick to the like original, yeah, but it made
• 43:43
  me. Forget like, yeah, these are
• 43:44
  actually really solid. So yeah, I'm gonna give it an 8.
• 43:47
  All right, so 8.2. Five starting average and I feel
• 43:51
  really good about that. Cool.
• 43:53
  All right, so are we. Ready to discuss?
• 43:55
  I believe we are all. Right.
• 43:58
  OK, so this fee starts off very politically charged because it
• 44:04
  starts off like we just hear off screen voice saying like how the
• 44:09
  Second Amendment needs to be repealed and Andy is arguing
• 44:13
  again. I'm just going to say it's a
• 44:14
  very moderate point, you know, saying like I I think it makes
• 44:18
  sense to have guns for self protection if that's the thing
• 44:21
  that you want. But I'm still in support of
• 44:23
  waiting periods, background checks, and a limitation to the
• 44:26
  type of guns you can have. I personally think it would be.
• 44:29
  Hilarious if Andy turned out to be like this gun loving, like
• 44:34
  super like, like terrible person.
• 44:37
  I just like all that trauma from Chuck.
• 44:39
  He's like, oh fuck yeah, like he he's almost like a Bert Gomer
• 44:42
  type person. But as it stands.
• 44:44
  Like I think this version of Chucky, it's definitely has like
• 44:48
  a locked gun safe. That means yes.
• 44:52
  This. Version of Andy has unlocked gun
• 44:55
  safe you know what I mean Like he he stands by which what are
• 44:58
  you saying yeah absolutely yeah he's.
• 44:59
  Making very rational points. And then his date starts asking
• 45:04
  about just like, more personal. She's like prying a little bit
• 45:08
  about him. And then he's like, you Googled
• 45:10
  me. You Googled.
• 45:11
  And she's like, yeah. So why didn't you tell me about
• 45:13
  all this shit? I mean, honestly, how do you
• 45:15
  tell people? I mean, everybody probably
• 45:17
  already knows by the time you tell them who you are.
• 45:20
  I mean, it was a long. Time before I dumped my
• 45:22
  childhood trauma on you. That's true it.
• 45:26
  Seems like there may be. On a second or third date, yeah,
• 45:30
  I guess that's true. It's a nice.
• 45:31
  Restaurant too. Yeah, it's just over there, you
• 45:34
  know, It keeps uncomfortably just sipping his wine.
• 45:37
  Yeah, I love. It I I.
• 45:39
  Like that, like he's like. I don't know what else to say,
• 45:41
  so I'm just going to drink my wine.
• 45:43
  Roll myself busy Hard yes? Like that's one.
• 45:47
  That's my favorite. Trick anytime you're at like a
• 45:49
  social event, keep a drink on him and the bonus for.
• 45:52
  That is that it makes me very loose with my lips.
• 45:54
  So I started talking to people very quickly.
• 45:57
  Yeah. So pro tip, you don't even need
• 45:59
  to be. Alcoholic for me, like I just
• 46:01
  like being able to take breaks. Like I can't talk right now
• 46:03
  because I've got water in my SO, yeah.
• 46:07
  It's so easy. Yeah, it's such.
• 46:08
  An easy out cuz you're Travis. Pro tip everybody he goes back
• 46:13
  to. A cabin that has to have been
• 46:15
  furnished from the grandpa and the lost boys.
• 46:18
  My God, all the taxidermy man, it's just.
• 46:21
  A running thing in all of these horror movies?
• 46:24
  Yeah, it's like horror. Directors were like, you know
• 46:26
  what's fucking scary? Taking the carcass of an animal,
• 46:29
  stuffing it, and mounting it on your wall.
• 46:31
  That's serial killer behavior. Sorry people in our area of the
• 46:37
  world it could be like the same. Like art director or like set
• 46:41
  department or whatever that like doing all the jobs like you know
• 46:44
  what this needs? It needs more taxidermy.
• 46:46
  Like let me go get some. So.
• 46:50
  He has, I love this is a nice little call back to Child's
• 46:54
  Play. Three, he has his secret vault
• 46:56
  behind his Kent Academy sweater. That was cool.
• 47:00
  Yeah. And then behind that, he opens
• 47:02
  it up and he's got Chucky from the Curse of Chucky ending where
• 47:06
  he got blown to bits. It's just his head kind of
• 47:09
  stitched together. Yeah.
• 47:11
  And he's kind of mounted. And he's taking a lot of damage.
• 47:13
  Apparently this is what Andy does when he's having a bad day.
• 47:16
  I wrote that this is his own version of Hide the Soul.
• 47:19
  Yeah. Cracks of ear lights a.
• 47:22
  Joint let's Chucky take a hit, and as soon as Chucky says
• 47:25
  something that pisses him off, he's like, all right, blowtorch
• 47:27
  it is. I love.
• 47:30
  I love that. I love the scene.
• 47:31
  Like he just like sparks up a joint and Chucky's like can I
• 47:34
  take a hit and he lets him. That's so cool.
• 47:36
  My mom was watching this. With us and she's like, but he
• 47:39
  does. And I know she was gonna say
• 47:40
  doesn't have lungs and I was like butter off.
• 47:42
  She was like you. Have to ignore the metaphysics
• 47:45
  of. This movie like but and you're.
• 47:47
  Like just don't. Just just roll with it.
• 47:49
  This. Is her very first child's.
• 47:51
  Play movie that she watched, she's listened to all of the.
• 47:53
  Episodes cuz she's a good mom but she was like I've never
• 47:57
  actually watched these honestly yeah in this Chucky this.
• 48:01
  Is probably the most amazing bit of puppetry that they did the
• 48:07
  entire movie The way that this thing moves, it's really, really
• 48:10
  well done but yeah and I like him saying that we're.
• 48:14
  Friends to the end, right? And it kind of feels like he's
• 48:16
  very much resigned to his fate of, like, trying to track down
• 48:21
  Chucky and make sure he can't be evil anymore.
• 48:24
  Yeah, He's like, I'll just keep Chucky here.
• 48:25
  And just, like, fuck with him now.
• 48:26
  Yeah. So yeah, he's just torturing
• 48:28
  him. It's really fucked up.
• 48:30
  All right, so we cut. Tanika having ECT done and the
• 48:35
  text being very gross. Yeah.
• 48:37
  They're just like, yeah. They're like, I thought you said
• 48:39
  she was paralyzed and yeah, she is.
• 48:40
  So they go over and take a pin and, like, prick her feet and
• 48:43
  like, see, she's just a pincushion down below.
• 48:45
  Fucking rude. Yeah.
• 48:48
  Then we cut to her talking with Doctor Foley about the
• 48:50
  nightmares she has and he's like, but it wasn't Chucky that
• 48:55
  did those murders. She's like no it was me.
• 48:57
  Chucky was a mask I wore to be able to live with myself.
• 49:02
  We found out it's been 4 years and she's done a lot of work
• 49:06
  with him, so she's being transferred to Harrogate, which
• 49:10
  is a medium security facility, so she'll have a little bit more
• 49:14
  freedom while she's there. Yeah, and they've also
• 49:17
  diagnosed. Her schizophrenic as well.
• 49:20
  They just, they love that diagnosis.
• 49:22
  And I know that we're specifically in a setting where
• 49:26
  it's like a psychiatric prison. Yeah, like I get that, but I
• 49:32
  also hate like mental illness being the like and I'll be all
• 49:37
  of why people commit murder. Like it just not that it can't
• 49:42
  be a component, but it's not like both necessary and
• 49:47
  sufficient. I feel like these things we have
• 49:49
  to. Also put ourselves like, take
• 49:51
  ourselves out of this for a moment and recognize like, oh,
• 49:54
  these people don't know all this shit.
• 49:57
  Most people, if you are like, Oh, yeah, the doll got up and
• 50:00
  started just stabbing everybody, you would be like, OK, so this
• 50:03
  person is definitely mentally ill like that.
• 50:06
  I mean, that seems like a very fair conclusion to come to.
• 50:10
  Yeah. And I mean she she did.
• 50:11
  Get an insanity plea, which those aren't as easy to get as a
• 50:15
  lot of people would think because that is something that a
• 50:18
  lot of people attempt. I like how they portray that.
• 50:21
  Accurately in this like it's not a good out jail free card
• 50:25
  because you're still kind of going to jail.
• 50:26
  Yeah, it's not a good out of jail free.
• 50:28
  Card and also he says like you guys have all benefited from an
• 50:30
  insanity plea, correct like so this is this is just like this
• 50:34
  is a complex situation because I do think that a lot of times
• 50:38
  this is how people like like lay people tend to talk about like
• 50:42
  mental and it's like, oh, they're schizophrenic, they're
• 50:44
  dangerous like and that's not even close to reality.
• 50:49
  But it doesn't help when we have like media that portrays this
• 50:53
  kind of stuff. And while there is definite
• 50:55
  overlap, like you can't have somebody who is dealing with a
• 50:59
  very severe psychiatric emergency and does end up
• 51:03
  causing harm to themselves and or others, but it it's not like
• 51:08
  a this equals this, it's not going to contributed to.
• 51:11
  This or. Yeah.
• 51:13
  Like it's just it's complex. It's not as simple as it
• 51:18
  sometimes comes across, Right? OK.
• 51:21
  So she has completed her transfer.
• 51:22
  She's now at the new facility. She has Carlos, who is like,
• 51:28
  hey, I'm friendly Carlos, I'm gonna be here.
• 51:30
  Like, where are you in for? And she's like, this right here
• 51:33
  is like, don't you're moving too fast.
• 51:36
  I'm not gonna be friends with you here.
• 51:37
  I'm just doing my job. By the way, my husband has.
• 51:40
  Ms. Yeah, Like, which one is it? Carlos, Are you nice?
• 51:44
  Are you cool? Like, are you just gonna be an
• 51:45
  asshole? Like he's like, so confusing in
• 51:47
  this moment here. And he leaves some gum for.
• 51:50
  Her even more confusing like I'm not gonna.
• 51:52
  Be a friend. Here's some gum.
• 51:55
  OK, he says. Like, his husband's in a
• 51:57
  wheelchair and he doesn't let that, like, stop him from living
• 52:00
  his life. And I'm like, I don't think it's
• 52:01
  the wheelchair that's stopping Nico from living her life at
• 52:03
  this point. I think it's the fact that she's
• 52:05
  in jail. Read the fucking room, Carlos.
• 52:08
  This guy kind of a dummy. He's trying.
• 52:12
  His This can't be an easy job. It's like he's like fighting
• 52:15
  with. Himself, he's like, here's a new
• 52:16
  person. Oh, man.
• 52:18
  Hi, it's nice to meet you. I'm not going to be a friend.
• 52:20
  Like he has to remind us. I was like, we can't be friends.
• 52:22
  We can't be friends. But here's some gum.
• 52:23
  Here's some gum. Here's some gum.
• 52:24
  My husband. My husband.
• 52:25
  Nope. But I can't.
• 52:26
  No. You gotta live your life.
• 52:28
  I'm sorry. Bye, bye.
• 52:31
  It's so confusing. So she is.
• 52:33
  Looking around the facility, she runs into a woman.
• 52:36
  Her name is Angela. And she said you can see me.
• 52:39
  And she's like, yeah. And she's like, all right, Don't
• 52:42
  be alarmed. I died here many years ago.
• 52:45
  I'm a ghost. No one else can see me.
• 52:47
  And that's when Michael pops up and he's like, we can all see
• 52:49
  you, Angela. And she kind of wanders off.
• 52:52
  And he says that she is an in house person, has been there for
• 52:56
  many, many years. 30 years. Yeah.
• 52:59
  So he starts striking up a conversation with Nika and he
• 53:03
  starts off strong. He's like, so are you still in
• 53:06
  the redheads? Yeah, I wrote.
• 53:08
  Michael flirts poorly and then my next line says but not too
• 53:12
  poorly. No, because they as Jesse.
• 53:15
  Promised we get straight to clowning.
• 53:17
  Yeah, holy shit, they're just clowning in the hallway.
• 53:20
  Getting down to clown. It turns.
• 53:22
  Is just like a Cliff dive. Like, yeah, it didn't.
• 53:26
  It didn't take much, like, oh, you're in the redheads.
• 53:29
  And then she gave him Juicy Fruit and I was like, all right,
• 53:31
  we're fucking yeah. Like that's exactly what
• 53:33
  happened. Well, Juicy Fruit lasts.
• 53:35
  All of five seconds. So he needed something to do
• 53:38
  after that. Maybe he does, too.
• 53:43
  OK, so they have like, a group therapy.
• 53:46
  And Claire is immediately hostile.
• 53:48
  She's like, so why'd you do it? And Doctor Phil is like, hey,
• 53:51
  let's like or no. Michael says Chucky did it and
• 53:56
  Nick is like, no, I did it. I had pathological, pathological
• 54:00
  jealousy of my sister and I was overprotective of my niece who I
• 54:03
  will never see again and all I can do is hope that she's OK.
• 54:07
  Did they ever say what queer's? Diagnosis is no, but they did.
• 54:12
  Reference that she burned down her house.
• 54:14
  Yeah, with maybe with family in it.
• 54:17
  Well, she said that. Nobody died with hers.
• 54:21
  Yeah, that was her distinction. Because he's like, yeah, well,
• 54:23
  you burned down the house. She's like, well, nobody died in
• 54:26
  my incident. That sounds like me.
• 54:29
  Somebody got. Really.
• 54:29
  Hurt, though, yeah. Technically nobody died.
• 54:33
  Technically nobody died. Got off on a.
• 54:35
  Technicality there. Queer.
• 54:36
  Well done. Yeah, so Angela's like, Oh no,
• 54:41
  Chucky called me and Alice's not ho gay.
• 54:43
  And it kind of throws the group into a tizzy.
• 54:47
  And then Dr. Foley says, I know what will calm the tensions in
• 54:51
  this group. I will bring out a Chucky doll.
• 54:53
  Yeah. And then people freak out
• 54:54
  because it says Chucky. And this is where we get the
• 54:56
  nerd statistics that 2% of all good guy dolls are chuckies and
• 55:00
  asked where did you? Get that he says Hot topic.
• 55:04
  This is stupid and also especially.
• 55:07
  Because I think it's Spencer's that that's where this one came
• 55:10
  from. I buy yours off of Spencer's,
• 55:12
  Yeah, So yeah. He said that this is going to be
• 55:17
  like a good tool for group therapy because I guess group
• 55:20
  therapy is all about Nika right now.
• 55:22
  Except for Madeline. He says this is my baby.
• 55:25
  Oh yeah. Talia, anytime we bring.
• 55:27
  Any kind of a stuffed animal in the house, she goes, this is my
• 55:30
  baby, that's my baby. That's why Jigglypuff.
• 55:32
  Lives in this. Room where she can't get to her.
• 55:34
  Can't be No, that's your baby. Where are we at?
• 55:40
  We learn is trying to feed the baby in.
• 55:42
  The cafeteria and Claire comes over and she's like, this is not
• 55:46
  healthy. And she tries to take the doll
• 55:49
  away. And there's like a whole
• 55:51
  kerfuffle and they, you know, kind of fight a little bit.
• 55:55
  And then we discovered that Michael, his last name and his
• 56:01
  reality is Phelps. And Nika's.
• 56:05
  Like what? And that's where she finds out
• 56:07
  his name is actually Malcolm. And Michael Phelps is one of the
• 56:10
  personalities he has sometimes. I'm going to be honest.
• 56:14
  This whole thing made it difficult for me to write down
• 56:16
  his name accurately this entire time because I switched between
• 56:20
  Michael and Malcolm so many times, I just wrote down
• 56:23
  whatever he. Was going by at that time,
• 56:25
  unless he hadn't explicitly said and then he was Malcolm.
• 56:29
  That's a good way to do that. Nika has a visitor.
• 56:32
  So she goes, that's one of the perks to medium securities.
• 56:35
  She can have visitors. So she goes and it is Tiffany
• 56:38
  Valentine and she's like the name sounds familiar, but you
• 56:41
  look really familiar. As anybody said, you look just
• 56:43
  like Jennifer Dillian. She goes, I've heard that a time
• 56:45
  I do that away and she's like, I am Allison's or I'm Alice's
• 56:50
  guardian. And she's like, really?
• 56:54
  Yeah. Cuz if you remember, Alice was
• 56:57
  supposed to be staying with her grandma who was killed by
• 57:00
  Chucky. The end of Cursive Chucky One of
• 57:03
  the five endings to cursive Chucky ended with her having.
• 57:07
  The voodoo champ being done to her.
• 57:09
  So is she really dead? Because that's what Tiffany
• 57:13
  tells her here. She's like, yeah, she's no at
• 57:15
  the end of this movie. Like, they kind of allude to the
• 57:18
  fact that while she was possessed by Chucky, one of the
• 57:21
  victims, like, fought back and that's what happened to her.
• 57:25
  Yeah, you're right. You're.
• 57:26
  Right. OK, so, yeah, so.
• 57:28
  Nikki is finally like OK whatever you look weird as a
• 57:31
  guardian but how is Alice doing? And she just goes she's dead
• 57:35
  theory and which that's a camp line in and of itself, like the
• 57:40
  delivery of this that and the reason she's like.
• 57:42
  I don't know, but they say it was a broken heart.
• 57:45
  Yeah. She's like, I'm no doctor, but
• 57:46
  I. Believe it was a broken heart
• 57:48
  and even Doctor Foley, monster that he is, is like, dude, you
• 57:53
  should have told me this. Yeah.
• 57:56
  I like how he looks so red, Nikka.
• 57:57
  He's just like, how's she gonna react?
• 57:59
  He's like he's. Like, is she going to murder?
• 58:04
  Yeah, maybe. I think he would be one of those
• 58:06
  guys if like if I broke out, he would get out his cell phone and
• 58:08
  start recording. If he wouldn't intervene like
• 58:11
  he's definitely. The type of person that if his
• 58:14
  on Reddit gets doxxed his entire career is yeah, yeah.
• 58:20
  So yeah. But she did bring a Chucky doll.
• 58:23
  It was a gift very similar to what Doctor Foley had in Group
• 58:27
  therapy. This was used in Alice's
• 58:30
  therapy, supposedly. Yeah.
• 58:31
  And they just wanted her to have it because.
• 58:33
  She thought they would help her with her therapy.
• 58:35
  And then instead of saying, oh, we already have one, Doctor
• 58:38
  Foley is like, oh, perfect. Two, we need more trauma 1st.
• 58:43
  One Nika didn't even get to therapize on it.
• 58:46
  Well, it's gonna be present in the group.
• 58:47
  Therapy sessions because it's her baby.
• 58:49
  So I don't know they were gonna touch on that subject next time.
• 58:53
  This is like how we have. Multiple cat beds because our
• 58:56
  cats won't share. That's true.
• 58:58
  That's true. All right.
• 59:01
  So. Carlos is at the nurse's.
• 59:03
  Station with his earbuds in. None of this is safe.
• 59:05
  Probably breaking all kinds of policy.
• 59:07
  Whatever it does allow Chucky to go into that unlocked sharps
• 59:12
  drawer and take a scalpel. And as he is walking down the
• 59:17
  hall, he stops. He sees Angela and he asks for
• 59:21
  directions to Nika's room. And then she's like doing her
• 59:26
  whole ghost bit and he's like, what is what is happening?
• 59:29
  Why are you doing this? And she goes, oh, you're just,
• 59:32
  you're not real. I'm just seeing you because I
• 59:34
  see things sometimes. And he was like, no, I'm a
• 59:37
  talking vintage toy from the 80s holding a scalpel.
• 59:41
  He's like, wait, didn't I talk to you on the phone last?
• 59:43
  I love that because you. Thought this entire time I was
• 59:45
  like, oh, she was just like, you know, thinking that she'd talked
• 59:48
  to somebody. But no, she actually did talk to
• 59:50
  Chucky. How did Chucky get on the phone
• 59:52
  with her of all people? I assume he's just like.
• 59:55
  Called the hospital and you can't have these patients just.
• 59:59
  Picking up random phone calls? That's not how that should work.
• 1:00:02
  I wonder if they have like a payphone?
• 1:00:03
  Station type situation, but that still seems bad.
• 1:00:07
  Those have to generally be transferred.
• 1:00:09
  I don't know. It's gotta be monitored, yeah.
• 1:00:11
  You can't let it happen. I liked.
• 1:00:13
  Before this though. When they're taking the dulcet
• 1:00:16
  hallway, Doctor Foley was walking through the hallway with
• 1:00:21
  one Chucky, and then Madeline's walking through the hallway with
• 1:00:23
  the other Chucky. And then he's like clock's like,
• 1:00:25
  oh, shit, there's another one in me.
• 1:00:27
  So he's like, oh, this is perfect.
• 1:00:28
  I'm going to be able to do this cool thing I learned.
• 1:00:30
  Yeah. So.
• 1:00:32
  He's like, listen, I'm going to go to Nika's room, but I'm
• 1:00:35
  coming for you next. Like I'm yeah, yeah, I like how.
• 1:00:38
  He's doing this just because he's annoyed.
• 1:00:40
  Talking to her, yeah. And we see Nika has torn a piece
• 1:00:45
  of her wheels. Spoke.
• 1:00:47
  Yeah. And.
• 1:00:49
  Has cut her wrist. It's a bottle of blood sitting
• 1:00:52
  there. She's been bleeding out for a
• 1:00:54
  little bit already and the next morning.
• 1:00:56
  Carlos walks into her room and wakes her up and she wakes up
• 1:01:00
  and she appears very confused and she looks down.
• 1:01:04
  The blood has a note that says not so fast and her arm has been
• 1:01:07
  very crudely stitched very similar to Chucky's facial
• 1:01:11
  stitches and she is trying to figure out how to avoid Carlos
• 1:01:18
  seeing that puddle of blood when a code blue is called and it
• 1:01:20
  turns out Angela is dead and she also had a cut to her wrist from
• 1:01:26
  that wheel spoke and the note in the blood says Chucky did it.
• 1:01:32
  We see a YouTube video that was recorded and posted by Andy.
• 1:01:37
  Was it YouTube? Why would he put that on
• 1:01:39
  YouTube? How did he get the video?
• 1:01:41
  Yeah. What is this?
• 1:01:42
  This is. This is not.
• 1:01:43
  This doesn't make any sense. Yeah, this is bad.
• 1:01:45
  But. Andy is visiting.
• 1:01:47
  Doctor Foley with his Chucky on a platter and he's like gun
• 1:01:50
  loving Andy over here. He's.
• 1:01:52
  Got his fucking gun. He's like, hey, how's this?
• 1:01:54
  Just walk into this. Federal building with a gun.
• 1:01:59
  You want to know how he? Has enough money to take these
• 1:02:02
  women on nice dates. It's because he has a YouTube
• 1:02:04
  channel. It's like, here's my gun.
• 1:02:05
  This is me shooting this doll. You want to see me like he he
• 1:02:10
  just loves the Second Amendment. He loves guns.
• 1:02:12
  He's like, here's this is a new gun I'm shooting Chucky with and
• 1:02:14
  like, here's me showing a doctor how I shoot a gun at Chucky.
• 1:02:17
  You say he loves the second. Amendment.
• 1:02:18
  I say he's a patriot. He's a patriot.
• 1:02:23
  Yeah. So he, like Doctor Foley just
• 1:02:25
  thinks that this is all special effects work and.
• 1:02:31
  And he's like trying to post proof that Chucky is alive and
• 1:02:34
  really did commit the murders. He's trying to exonerate me.
• 1:02:38
  Claire was friends with Angie and in Group therapy, she's
• 1:02:42
  saying if she was thinking of killing herself, I would know
• 1:02:44
  it. And Doctor Foley correctly says,
• 1:02:47
  like, that's not always, you know, And they start talking
• 1:02:54
  about, you know, she kind of accuses Nika.
• 1:02:56
  She was like, all of this stuff happened when you started here.
• 1:02:59
  That was your calling card in the blood.
• 1:03:02
  And then as they're talking, Nika realizes, Miss Valentine.
• 1:03:05
  Oh, Tiffany Valentine. You mean Charles Lee Ray's
• 1:03:08
  girlfriend, Tiffany Valentine. And he pulls out the like,
• 1:03:14
  they've got both the Chucky dolls here.
• 1:03:16
  And she was like, that is definitely Chucky, like evil
• 1:03:19
  Chucky. He's going to start murdering
• 1:03:20
  people. And he's like, it is just just a
• 1:03:23
  doll. And he almost, I feel like he's
• 1:03:27
  almost a worn out parent about to be like, all right, if we
• 1:03:30
  can't start fighting over the dolls, I'm taking them both.
• 1:03:32
  We're putting them both away. But instead, he's the more
• 1:03:35
  psychotic version of that where he just melts one of them.
• 1:03:38
  Yeah. And she's like, OK.
• 1:03:39
  Like, if it's not a doll, then prove it.
• 1:03:41
  Prove it to everybody here. So he's like, OK, like, and
• 1:03:43
  she's like, all right, take a fire and pull it.
• 1:03:46
  Like put it over his a fire, a fire.
• 1:03:49
  A whole fire. Take a fire.
• 1:03:50
  Hold the fire. In your hand, take up that fire
• 1:03:53
  and put it on. His hand, and that's what he
• 1:03:55
  does. He puts the he like, holds it to
• 1:03:57
  him. And I like the scene.
• 1:03:59
  I like how it's drawn out because it's like, oh, like
• 1:04:02
  flame on the finger. And he's gonna break the droopy
• 1:04:04
  hand, too. Is so gross.
• 1:04:06
  And then she was like, OK, now do Madeline's doll.
• 1:04:09
  And she's like, no. And they leave.
• 1:04:14
  Oh, also now. So Malcolm tells Nikka he's
• 1:04:20
  like, I agree with you. Better safe than sorry.
• 1:04:22
  I think Chucky did it. Let's just get rid of it, you
• 1:04:25
  know, once and for all. And she's like, OK, well, you
• 1:04:28
  have Madeline just walked outside.
• 1:04:29
  You have to follow her. I can't follow her in the snow.
• 1:04:32
  And also Ashley is saying I need to stay away from her.
• 1:04:35
  And he's like, my outdoor privileges have been revoked
• 1:04:37
  ever since I broke into Doctor Foley's computer.
• 1:04:41
  And she was like, well, we have to think of something.
• 1:04:43
  He was, well, I've done harder things as the CEO of a
• 1:04:47
  multibillion dollar corporation. I'm Mark, by the way, and you.
• 1:04:53
  Know who he is. Mark Zuckerberg.
• 1:04:57
  I like that she's. Like, wait, you're Mark
• 1:05:00
  Zuckerberg now? He's like, this is, yeah.
• 1:05:03
  Yeah, I'm like, I mean, come on. So he actually does like Nika
• 1:05:08
  does a distraction to get Carlos and the other order at least
• 1:05:12
  distracted while he goes out to go follow Madeline.
• 1:05:16
  Yeah. Meanwhile, Claire.
• 1:05:17
  Has taken the doll with the melty hand and is trying to dump
• 1:05:22
  him down the trash chute. But as she's about to dump him
• 1:05:25
  down the chute, he bites her. She goes, Oh my God, you are
• 1:05:31
  alive. At that moment, Doctor Foley and
• 1:05:34
  Carlos turn the corner. They see her freaking out and he
• 1:05:38
  was like OK, cool, you're getting intramuscular
• 1:05:41
  injections, we're taking you with us.
• 1:05:44
  It's just a doll. So they strap her to a table and
• 1:05:48
  give her the shots. And it's just supposed to kind
• 1:05:50
  of sedate her. Like she's still conscious, but
• 1:05:53
  she's not going to be moving around.
• 1:05:54
  She's not going to be because they think that she bit herself.
• 1:05:56
  So they think that she is like self harming.
• 1:05:59
  And again, if a patient has that kind of drug in their system,
• 1:06:06
  they can't also be in physical restraints without supervision.
• 1:06:08
  It's like a major safety issue. They're short staffed at this
• 1:06:11
  hospital. Yeah, they don't have enough.
• 1:06:13
  Staff for proper safety protocols.
• 1:06:16
  While all of this is. Happening Nika is watching from
• 1:06:19
  the window as Mark is approaching Madeline at the
• 1:06:23
  grave where Angela was buried was gonna is are gonna be
• 1:06:27
  buried. Yeah, and.
• 1:06:28
  She he goes over there and then like peeks into first she throws
• 1:06:33
  Chucky into the grave in the grave, and then he.
• 1:06:36
  Is like peeking. Over into the grave and she
• 1:06:38
  pushes him into the grave and that's when Ashley.
• 1:06:41
  Comes and gets Carlos and Doctor Foley saying something happened
• 1:06:45
  with Malcolm. So they go out there and we see
• 1:06:49
  the doll handed back to Madeline.
• 1:06:51
  It's meant to be like, oh. Did he walk down there in the
• 1:06:54
  grave, switch bodies with Mark? So yeah, we don't know what's
• 1:06:59
  going on at this point. And yeah, now.
• 1:07:02
  Malcolm seems kind of different. Claire sees Chucky walk and talk
• 1:07:06
  in the room she's in, and she can't, obviously, she can't
• 1:07:09
  really do anything about it. And he picks up a can of
• 1:07:11
  compressed air and like, this is one of those moments where she's
• 1:07:14
  just, like, staring in horror because what else is she
• 1:07:16
  supposed to do? And he throws it to the ground.
• 1:07:19
  It bursts up into the ceiling, breaks the skylight glass comes
• 1:07:24
  raining down and beheads her. It's such a cool kill.
• 1:07:28
  Yeah, it's super creative. Yeah, so.
• 1:07:31
  Andy. Is reading news of the events at
• 1:07:34
  the asylum. He's seen that there are now
• 1:07:37
  multiple deaths that have occurred there, so he knows
• 1:07:39
  shit's going down. So he pulls out old buzz cut
• 1:07:42
  Chucky and we don't know what's going to happen as of yet.
• 1:07:46
  Nika tells Doctor Foley that both dolls are alive and he
• 1:07:51
  wants to now hypnotize her to hear the truth because he thinks
• 1:07:54
  that she's full of shit. Here's the thing.
• 1:07:57
  Too. Is that Nika like this is such a
• 1:08:00
  like a ray of hope for her that she didn't commit these murders
• 1:08:04
  cuz she has convinced herself over the past four years that
• 1:08:07
  she actually did this. She hasn't been able to
• 1:08:10
  reconcile this in herself. And the fact that she has seen
• 1:08:16
  the Chucky's, like, alive, like, gives her the hope that she
• 1:08:19
  didn't actually do these things. It's not even necessarily about
• 1:08:22
  wanting to exonerate herself, although I'm sure she wants to
• 1:08:24
  exonerate herself, but it's more about, like, knowing that she
• 1:08:26
  didn't do this. And I think that Fiona plays
• 1:08:29
  this really well. Yeah, you can like.
• 1:08:31
  Yeah. She.
• 1:08:32
  Really does a good job with this.
• 1:08:34
  And then she also does a good job whenever she's hypnotized
• 1:08:36
  here because he pulls out this little flashing light thing and
• 1:08:40
  he pulls out a glass of bourbon or whiskey or something.
• 1:08:43
  Like, I'm like, at first I forgot that he did the whole,
• 1:08:46
  like, sexually inappropriate shit that's about to follow up.
• 1:08:49
  But my first problem was like, you shouldn't be drinking.
• 1:08:53
  Yeah, this isn't cool. This is unprofessional.
• 1:08:55
  Yeah, you can't drink all the. And he's like, oh, don't.
• 1:08:58
  Worry about that. This is going to be the least of
• 1:08:59
  your concerns because he hypnotizes Nika, gets her to
• 1:09:03
  confess again that she's been killing these people, even
• 1:09:06
  though it's very much him, just like guiding her into, like,
• 1:09:09
  answering these questions, like. All right, you did this right.
• 1:09:13
  He's not. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:14
  He's. Asking very leading questions.
• 1:09:16
  And that's the thing about hypnotism is that the science on
• 1:09:18
  this shows that really all it is is the state of suggestibility.
• 1:09:21
  Nothing that you're saying you're not like uncovering
• 1:09:24
  hidden thoughts. Yeah.
• 1:09:26
  I mean memories. Like this he wasn't.
• 1:09:28
  Really leaving it up into. Like a, was it this or this?
• 1:09:30
  Like, you did that right? And it's just like, Yep, yeah.
• 1:09:33
  And then he says. I've missed these little
• 1:09:36
  sessions of ours, haven't you? And she says Nope.
• 1:09:39
  He's like, Yep. Kind of expected that.
• 1:09:42
  And then he wins in for a kiss. Yeah, and it's very.
• 1:09:45
  Clear that he's done this before.
• 1:09:47
  And then Chucky hits him over the head with the bottle and he
• 1:09:50
  is like this guy, he's so sick. And then he hands her, he hands
• 1:09:55
  Nika a piece of glass. We got to a dream.
• 1:09:59
  She is crawling along the floor and she sees Alice, a little 12
• 1:10:04
  year old Alice now and then a giant Chucky comes up behind
• 1:10:09
  her. Oh, that giant Chucky is so.
• 1:10:10
  Terrible. And then it cuts to where it
• 1:10:12
  looks. Like she's in ECT again, and
• 1:10:15
  then it cuts to group therapy. Foley is late, and I like
• 1:10:19
  Madeline saying that. Like late people are rude
• 1:10:21
  people. He always says that.
• 1:10:22
  So where is he? And then Malcolm said, Malcolm's
• 1:10:25
  now Charles, by the way, that's his new name.
• 1:10:28
  And he says the late Doctor Foley.
• 1:10:32
  It's got a nice ring to it, don't you think?
• 1:10:34
  Nika? And Madeline goes to her room
• 1:10:39
  with Chucky. And Nika is, like, really trying
• 1:10:42
  to get her to leave the Chucky doll behind, but she won't.
• 1:10:46
  And the nurses are very protective over Madeline.
• 1:10:49
  Yeah. So.
• 1:10:50
  We cut to Andy. He's now just driving and he
• 1:10:53
  gets a call from Tiffany and Tiffany basically is like, hey,
• 1:10:59
  I got a message to you from Chucky, He says.
• 1:11:00
  You'll know what it means. It's.
• 1:11:02
  Just one word disembath. There's the camp.
• 1:11:08
  Yeah. God, I love Jennifer Tilly.
• 1:11:10
  Yeah, Jennifer Tilly, I like that she.
• 1:11:13
  We all know that she's capable of being a serious actor, but
• 1:11:16
  like in this series, she's just nothing but pure camp and I love
• 1:11:20
  how fully. She owns the Tiffany world too,
• 1:11:22
  and she keeps the Tiffany doll with it.
• 1:11:24
  Travels with her. Yeah, all the time.
• 1:11:26
  I love. It.
• 1:11:27
  That's so cool. So.
• 1:11:28
  Madeline is. Breastfeeding the doll and we
• 1:11:31
  see as she's like going to lay it down but he bit that nipple
• 1:11:34
  yeah bleeding and. She tucks him in.
• 1:11:38
  And she's like a boy's best friend is his mother.
• 1:11:41
  And then she smothers him. Oh my God.
• 1:11:43
  And this is dark. Because it's very much like
• 1:11:45
  alluding to what happened in her past and also watching like
• 1:11:49
  this. This feels, I feel bad after
• 1:11:53
  watching this. And it's because, like, the doll
• 1:11:55
  is fighting and then quiets down and because it is a, it is child
• 1:12:01
  size and stops moving and it's very dark and it's very bleak.
• 1:12:06
  And then we see that Foley, Malcolm and Nika witnessed the
• 1:12:11
  whole thing and he's like, meddling.
• 1:12:14
  Yeah. What have you done?
• 1:12:15
  Yeah, he's like, what did you do?
• 1:12:17
  And she's like, oh, I didn't do anything.
• 1:12:19
  It's a doll. And she's like, no, what did you
• 1:12:21
  do to your child? Like your actual child?
• 1:12:24
  And she's basically like, I'm sorry.
• 1:12:27
  She basically admits like, yeah, I like, I killed my kid and he
• 1:12:31
  makes her. Apologize to the doll, but
• 1:12:34
  actually Joshua and then he they have a symbolic funeral and they
• 1:12:43
  bury Chucky. She just has like the single
• 1:12:46
  shoe from him. Nika doesn't buy that he's
• 1:12:50
  really dead and she's like, he'll come back.
• 1:12:53
  He always does. That night, Andy arrives and he
• 1:12:58
  asked to see Doctor Foley or Nika.
• 1:13:00
  And the security guards like you have to either come during
• 1:13:02
  visiting hours for Nika. We're making an appointment with
• 1:13:05
  Doctor Foley. You can't just come in.
• 1:13:06
  He goes, well, then I would like to commit myself.
• 1:13:08
  And again, this isn't just like a standard psychiatric hospital.
• 1:13:11
  This is like an inmate facility. So what does?
• 1:13:15
  He do to get in well, he punches him in the face and again, I
• 1:13:20
  don't think this is. How this would work?
• 1:13:21
  No, he. Would go to jail, yeah, Gel gel.
• 1:13:24
  He wouldn't go to like a like a mental facility, but but we it
• 1:13:28
  doesn't matter. We still see him in in, Yeah, we
• 1:13:32
  see Buzz cut. Chucky is delivered to full and
• 1:13:36
  he's like, who is sending me all of these dolls?
• 1:13:39
  What the fuck, Nurse Ashley? I don't know if she's a nurse or
• 1:13:44
  I thought she was a nurse orderly, I think.
• 1:13:47
  I thought, I thought Carlos. Was the orderly?
• 1:13:49
  I don't know, I don't know. I checked the credits and they
• 1:13:51
  just had. People like credited as orderly
• 1:13:54
  one and two also so. Well, I don't know.
• 1:13:57
  Anyway, Ashley takes the shoe from Madeline because it's got
• 1:14:01
  laces in it, and she says you're on suicide watch.
• 1:14:04
  I'm going to be checking on you every 15 minutes.
• 1:14:07
  And she as she leaves, the door closes and we see Ragamuffin
• 1:14:12
  Chucky and he was like behind the door.
• 1:14:14
  And she was like you came back for me.
• 1:14:17
  And basically he like. Convinces her to let him kill
• 1:14:21
  her yeah yeah and at first I. Thought that he was going to
• 1:14:24
  make her swallow her tongue so that way it would look like it
• 1:14:27
  was a suicide. But instead he rips out her
• 1:14:32
  esophagus, which is? Yeah, it's.
• 1:14:36
  It's weird at first because it's just like sticking his hand in
• 1:14:38
  her mouth, but then it just gets like further down in there and
• 1:14:41
  he actually Yanks it out. It's really nasty.
• 1:14:44
  And Ashley? Finds her in 15 minutes with
• 1:14:48
  Chucky's arm just sticking out of her mouth.
• 1:14:51
  And when Doctor Foley and Carlos come in, she quits.
• 1:14:54
  She's like, I can't, I can't not do this anymore.
• 1:14:57
  Can you blame her? No.
• 1:14:58
  No, this is fucked. Up.
• 1:15:00
  And Carlos? Dumps the doll in the trash
• 1:15:03
  chute. We get to Nika and Foley's
• 1:15:05
  office. She is in a straight jacket and
• 1:15:08
  he's like, what are you doing here and how did you get here?
• 1:15:10
  And she's like, how do you think?
• 1:15:12
  Yeah, she's in there with a short.
• 1:15:13
  Haired Chucky, too. And he and he tells her that
• 1:15:17
  Madeline's dead and he basically he's planning to write a book
• 1:15:21
  about all of this. He's like, I don't care if you
• 1:15:23
  actually did it or not. The book is going to sell really
• 1:15:25
  well either way. Fuck this guy.
• 1:15:27
  Oh my God. So he busts out all this stuff.
• 1:15:32
  He wasn't planning for it, but it's like, whoa, while you're
• 1:15:34
  here. So he starts getting all the
• 1:15:35
  hypnosis shit out and these shoes.
• 1:15:38
  The slippers and yeah, and. Then he gets them out and he
• 1:15:40
  just starts kissing her feet. Oh my God.
• 1:15:42
  And the look on Nika's face, like it's just like the feet.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah, it's so bad. And then?
• 1:15:51
  Chucky hits him again. He's like, I just can't with
• 1:15:53
  this guy. I don't know whether to kill him
• 1:15:55
  or take notes. I just love how it's like the.
• 1:15:57
  Same way every single time, yeah?
• 1:16:00
  This is where we get the undead Chucky, as I wrote in my notes,
• 1:16:04
  but really it's Ragamuffin Chucky, he says.
• 1:16:06
  Andy is there, so they're all good to go.
• 1:16:09
  And this is where they wake up. Mullet Chucky or buzz Cut
• 1:16:11
  Chucky? Yeah.
• 1:16:13
  We got one. Let's just go ahead and get
• 1:16:15
  another one. So they do the chant real quick
• 1:16:16
  and he wakes up. Yeah, so he says.
• 1:16:19
  That he found a spell on voodoofordummies.com that can
• 1:16:22
  make him like, can help him possessed anyone.
• 1:16:26
  So he had possessed Alice and a lot of people trust cute little
• 1:16:29
  kids. And so, you know, kind of went
• 1:16:32
  on a little little murder spree as he's want to do, but one of
• 1:16:37
  the victims fought back and that's how Alice ended up dying.
• 1:16:42
  So as all of. This is going down they, Carlos
• 1:16:47
  appears. Yeah, and.
• 1:16:48
  They all attack and they stab his leg, he falls down to the
• 1:16:51
  ground and then they just start. This goes on for SO.
• 1:16:54
  Long all three chuckies have their own.
• 1:16:57
  Stabbing device and they just go to town on him.
• 1:17:02
  I love it so much 'cause when they're done, they're just
• 1:17:04
  laughing and having a good time. And the new ones like Oh my God
• 1:17:06
  this is the most fun I've had my entire life.
• 1:17:10
  They all just laugh at him like it's so fucking funny.
• 1:17:13
  But now they start arguing about.
• 1:17:14
  Who's gonna go take care of Andy?
• 1:17:16
  And they're talking about who's had the worst day.
• 1:17:18
  And then buzz cuts like hello. And they're like, oh, God, yeah,
• 1:17:22
  absolutely. You need you need the win.
• 1:17:25
  Yeah, yeah. Please buy be.
• 1:17:26
  My guest, but I had the other one and it's like, yeah, like no
• 1:17:29
  fair. You got to suck titty earlier
• 1:17:33
  we. See the security guard go
• 1:17:35
  outside and there is an open gate and a car in front of it,
• 1:17:38
  so he's going to go check it out.
• 1:17:40
  He sees the Tiffany doll in the back seat and of course, Tiffany
• 1:17:44
  in Jennifer Tilley's body comes up behind him and slits his
• 1:17:47
  throat with her handy dandy nail file knife.
• 1:17:51
  Chucky performs the spell on Nika and apparently spell allows
• 1:17:57
  her to walk. Yeah, just curious.
• 1:17:59
  Paralysis again. I can't think of the metaphysics
• 1:18:03
  too much in this. No, in this series.
• 1:18:05
  So that'll be in the show, it continues.
• 1:18:09
  Yeah. It explores.
• 1:18:10
  This a little bit more yeah as well so if you haven't seen the
• 1:18:14
  show you can get a little bit more of Nika's story yeah with
• 1:18:16
  the way this is there's no. Way you can't acknowledge this
• 1:18:19
  at this point. Yeah, so.
• 1:18:22
  She Doctor Foley's starting to come to and Chucky and her body
• 1:18:27
  goes this is for Nika and just like caves his head and just.
• 1:18:31
  Stomps it in hard and then we cut over to buzz cut Chucky.
• 1:18:36
  Well, first we cut. Her walking out and she's
• 1:18:40
  wearing the iconic Charles Lee Ray like long black jacket and
• 1:18:44
  bright red scarf. Yeah, I thought that was a nice.
• 1:18:47
  Little touch on. The the wardrobe department's
• 1:18:50
  part. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:18:51
  That's really cool. So now Chucky is over in Wait
• 1:18:56
  wait, no Malcolm gets. Strolled through the.
• 1:18:58
  Eye by Evil Dead Chucky, Yes, So Malcolm's.
• 1:19:01
  There when one of the when the evil dead Chucky comes in and
• 1:19:04
  he's like, no, the other Chucky, the it's got to be evil dead.
• 1:19:09
  Chucky because he's got the thing attached to his arm?
• 1:19:10
  No, because there's two chuckies at this.
• 1:19:12
  Time because one of them comes in and he's like, I did it, I
• 1:19:15
  killed Ashlyn. He goes, hey, you didn't.
• 1:19:16
  And he's like, I did, I'm Charles.
• 1:19:18
  I'm a murderer. And he goes, I'm Charles Lee
• 1:19:20
  Ray. But my friends call me Chucky.
• 1:19:23
  No, that was Nika. I was saying that.
• 1:19:25
  OK. That's yeah.
• 1:19:26
  Thank you. I forgot that she's Chucky.
• 1:19:27
  Yeah, cuz like it breaks his. Brains like, wait, Nika.
• 1:19:30
  He's like, Nope, not Nika anymore.
• 1:19:33
  And like he's just starts like verbally tearing Malcolm down
• 1:19:37
  and then like, it causes Malcolm to just like, fall to his knees
• 1:19:39
  in disbelief. Yeah.
• 1:19:41
  And then he goes. And then he goes, Oh my God,
• 1:19:42
  I'm. Malcolm I just wanted to be
• 1:19:44
  someone special. And then Evil Dead Chucky chills
• 1:19:47
  him through the head. We cut to Andy.
• 1:19:51
  Buzz cut. Chucky attacks him and hurts his
• 1:19:54
  leg, but he fights back. He was ready for this.
• 1:19:57
  And as he's holding Chucky up against the wall, he reaches
• 1:20:00
  into his stomach. This is very Videodrome.
• 1:20:04
  Yeah, he just. Pulls a gun.
• 1:20:06
  Out and he goes. This is the end.
• 1:20:08
  Oh shit, that is that is so. You're right, Videodrome.
• 1:20:11
  I didn't even think of that. But yeah, I was just thinking
• 1:20:14
  like, oh, he's going in for a tickle.
• 1:20:15
  Like, there we go. That's how you win the fight.
• 1:20:20
  Yeah. He just.
• 1:20:20
  Oh, my God. And then he caves his head in.
• 1:20:22
  Yeah. Because like.
• 1:20:24
  The bullet to the head. Wasn't enough to get him so fuck
• 1:20:26
  it I'll just stomp his head but as he's.
• 1:20:29
  About to leave, he sees Nika, realizes what's happened
• 1:20:33
  immediately, and Chucky says it's your turn and locks the
• 1:20:39
  door as the alarms are going off.
• 1:20:41
  And Chucky, Nika walks out, kisses Tiffany, Jennifer, and
• 1:20:49
  they're like, some things never change.
• 1:20:51
  And then they get in the car and I love this final shot of them
• 1:20:54
  all laughing. And they look in the rear view
• 1:20:56
  and the Tiffany, yeah, she's tackling.
• 1:20:58
  But you saw. Her before.
• 1:21:00
  But she didn't do anything. So did she just have the doll in
• 1:21:03
  there? But seeing it actually be alive
• 1:21:05
  is cool. And if you were wondering if we.
• 1:21:08
  Have a post credits scene. We do, We do.
• 1:21:10
  And it's Kyle coming back for the head of Chucky in Andy's
• 1:21:15
  cabin saying Andy sent me and she immediately has like weapons
• 1:21:19
  and stuff ready to go. Yeah, got to.
• 1:21:21
  Keep the torture going. Yep.
• 1:21:24
  All right, so that's how it ends.
• 1:21:26
  I think it's still an 8.5. I think it's a really solid,
• 1:21:29
  really good movie. I agree.
• 1:21:30
  I'm I'm going to keep mine on. Nate still.
• 1:21:32
  But I like this entryway. It's really good.
• 1:21:36
  Talia, she was pretty sleepy during it.
• 1:21:39
  It was a big day for her. She had a lot of excitement.
• 1:21:42
  Going on beforehand, yeah, but. We all know how she feels about
• 1:21:45
  these movies. It scares her the fact that
• 1:21:48
  there's multiple chuckies now. Not that he trust any Chucky.
• 1:21:51
  Yeah. She this is probably the movie
• 1:21:53
  that made her not trust our doll cuz he's in here with us right
• 1:21:56
  now. Like, could he be possessing us
• 1:21:58
  right now? She doesn't know.
• 1:21:59
  She doesn't know she's gonna. Look at us strange for a little
• 1:22:02
  bit. Yeah.
• 1:22:03
  So I think Talia, I think this really scares her.
• 1:22:06
  So I think maybe she's going to give this a six.
• 1:22:08
  OK, that's good. Because she could recognize that
• 1:22:11
  it's scary. So it's doing its job as a
• 1:22:12
  horror movie. Yeah.
• 1:22:15
  Zoe's Ultimate warrior. OK.
• 1:22:18
  I think it's Andy. Why?
• 1:22:20
  Because he. Keeps the one that he tortures.
• 1:22:24
  He sends one ahead of time. He's got like a weapon planted
• 1:22:27
  inside of it. He's ready to go.
• 1:22:29
  He did the sneak attack. You're right.
• 1:22:32
  So he loves the sneak. Attack.
• 1:22:34
  Andy, yeah, you're. Right.
• 1:22:35
  It's got to be Andy. Andy was prepared this time
• 1:22:37
  around. Andy likes to eat toys with his
• 1:22:40
  victims. Yeah.
• 1:22:42
  OK, so. Those are all of our ratings.
• 1:22:44
  What would you change? What's one thing you would
• 1:22:46
  change? That's a good question.
• 1:22:49
  I feel like I would have had Andy a little bit more involved
• 1:22:52
  with the finale, OK, Because like I wanted him to have
• 1:22:56
  because you're teasing it, but at the same time, like, we never
• 1:23:00
  get that interaction. They have a brief encounter at
• 1:23:03
  the very end of the movie, but that's it.
• 1:23:05
  I kind of like this whole. Idea of he's coming in to try
• 1:23:08
  and save the day and it just doesn't work out.
• 1:23:11
  That's cool, and it can still. Be that, but have them interact.
• 1:23:15
  OK, You're trying to blend the two worlds together.
• 1:23:18
  Nika's still doesn't even really know who Andy is.
• 1:23:21
  OK. By the time he gets to see Nika
• 1:23:24
  in person, it's Chucky. So I feel like it would be
• 1:23:26
  important if Nika knew. Like, hey, I'm not crazy.
• 1:23:30
  There is this person that dealt with the same thing as me and
• 1:23:33
  can confirm my suspicions that this doll is actually killing
• 1:23:36
  people and I'm not like, having schizophrenic episodes.
• 1:23:41
  Yeah, that could have been an interesting.
• 1:23:42
  Twist to have to it where she does speak to him.
• 1:23:45
  That's a good point. So yeah, that'd.
• 1:23:47
  Be pretty much what I would do. OK, OK, Now who did you relate
• 1:23:51
  to? I think I.
• 1:23:56
  Probably. Related to.
• 1:24:01
  Madeline because I also think that late people are rude people
• 1:24:05
  and. You're also like that with Tayo,
• 1:24:09
  with the way she is with Chucky and Scout and Zoe.
• 1:24:12
  Yeah, babies. They're my babies.
• 1:24:14
  They're my babies. They're my babies.
• 1:24:16
  You may not. Burn their hands.
• 1:24:19
  I'm not smothering them though. Maybe with affection, but
• 1:24:23
  definitely smothering them with. Affection.
• 1:24:25
  Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes it's not enough.
• 1:24:27
  For them, I could go out there and give Talia all the love in
• 1:24:30
  the world and she's gonna be like, this is not enough.
• 1:24:33
  I maybe I need more. Is this all you got?
• 1:24:36
  She's like. I'm the light.
• 1:24:37
  Of your life. Excuse you please.
• 1:24:39
  Please show me the proper love and affection.
• 1:24:41
  I thought you loved me. Yeah, true.
• 1:24:45
  I related to Andy at the beginning because I'm just like,
• 1:24:48
  awkward situations. Give me that drink.
• 1:24:51
  Give me that. Give me that glass.
• 1:24:52
  Like I'm going to get drunk or I'm just going to be like
• 1:24:54
  drinking something the entire time to try and make this as
• 1:24:58
  comfortable as possible for me until I get into a good flow
• 1:25:00
  with the conversation. I need that drink in my hand.
• 1:25:03
  OK. All right, What's next?
• 1:25:08
  We don't do a dream sequel. With this, because it's our
• 1:25:10
  franchise, so. Tagline New tagline.
• 1:25:18
  Two's a blessing. Three's a curse, dude.
• 1:25:23
  That's good. Thank you.
• 1:25:24
  That's way better than what I was about to say.
• 1:25:26
  What were you gonna say? I.
• 1:25:27
  Don't even remember now. You just wiped it out with that.
• 1:25:30
  Yeah, that was good. All right, cool.
• 1:25:33
  I'm gonna take this. One and I'm gonna ride this high
• 1:25:35
  for the rest of the year. It's two weeks, but OK.
• 1:25:39
  That's exactly, yeah. Not gonna last so long, but it's
• 1:25:42
  gonna be a good time. OK, now it's time for reviews.
• 1:25:48
  Yeah, yeah, All right, cool. So I knew that we liked it, so I
• 1:25:52
  got us a negative review off of IMDb.
• 1:25:54
  Oh boy. I'm.
• 1:25:55
  Scared of the IMDb shows on movies I like all right,
• 1:25:59
  especially. Like very like.
• 1:26:01
  LGBT heavy movies I like. Yeah, I tried to avoid.
• 1:26:05
  The just like this movie's bad because I think it's bad type of
• 1:26:09
  reviews. So I got 1 here that I feel like
• 1:26:11
  I didn't fully read it. Just beware.
• 1:26:14
  But what I did see seem thought out enough.
• 1:26:16
  The key is to not go for the one out of 10s, go for like a three
• 1:26:20
  or something. Yeah, that shows that they're
• 1:26:21
  putting. Thought into it.
• 1:26:22
  They're not just being like bad. One of them I saw was like it
• 1:26:26
  was. Rated one out 10.
• 1:26:27
  They were like I'd give this a 5 out of 10.
• 1:26:29
  Like then give it a 5 out of 10/5.
• 1:26:31
  There's an option on this website in which you are
• 1:26:34
  reviewing. All right, so this one is 3 out
• 1:26:38
  of 10. The bad Chucky is back.
• 1:26:42
  The first two Child's Play movies were good, and then it
• 1:26:44
  only received bad films until 2013 when The Curse of Chucky
• 1:26:48
  gave some life to the franchise. I was with high expectations
• 1:26:51
  because I like the previous film.
• 1:26:53
  However, the cult of Chucky is really bad, like The Seed of
• 1:26:56
  Chucky or even worse. The story is a mess, stupid and
• 1:26:59
  boring, and the kills are bad and the characters are just
• 1:27:02
  uninteresting. However, this installment has
• 1:27:04
  some good jokes and tries to give some life to this
• 1:27:06
  franchise. And the characters of Fiona
• 1:27:08
  Doroff and Alex Vincent are fine.
• 1:27:11
  In my opinion, this movie should start with what we've seen
• 1:27:13
  during the ending. That would open an opportunity
• 1:27:16
  for a good and interesting story.
• 1:27:19
  If there will be a sequel, I hope will be different, more
• 1:27:22
  violent, funny without being ridiculous, and with good
• 1:27:25
  characters. Chucky is back, but we have seen
• 1:27:27
  him in better days. Rating 3 1/2 out of sin.
• 1:27:31
  I think this is a. Person that just doesn't like
• 1:27:33
  campy elements. That's I think.
• 1:27:35
  That's yeah, like they because the.
• 1:27:37
  Ones they listed 1-2 and curse those are like the most.
• 1:27:41
  I don't want to say grounded, but those are the most like pure
• 1:27:44
  horror over. Yeah, you know, an interesting
• 1:27:47
  thing that I was. Reading in one of the interviews
• 1:27:51
  for this was somebody talking to Don Mancini about the first one.
• 1:27:54
  Even then, they said it kind of is like an action movie because
• 1:28:00
  it has, like, these, like, chase scenes and explosions and all
• 1:28:03
  kinds of things going on. And he agreed.
• 1:28:06
  He's like, that wasn't anything that I did, though.
• 1:28:08
  Everything I did was pure horror.
• 1:28:09
  But Tom Holland threw in a lot of the action sequences.
• 1:28:12
  Yeah, actually I could. Definitely see an argument for
• 1:28:15
  that being an action horror. I could too, yeah.
• 1:28:18
  But yeah, all the other ones like 2 and 3 and 4, you get the
• 1:28:23
  campiness. But I think people still, I
• 1:28:25
  don't know why 4 worked better for people than Seed did.
• 1:28:31
  I mean, 4 is objectively a much better movie than Seed if you
• 1:28:33
  ask me, but they were both like the same levels of campiness
• 1:28:38
  Bride. Why are you saying 4 instead of
• 1:28:41
  bride? Bride of Chucky?
• 1:28:42
  Yeah, it's confusing. Yeah, Bride.
• 1:28:44
  Of Chucky is. What I'm talking about, so I
• 1:28:46
  don't get it. But yeah, like I'm I hate to
• 1:28:50
  burst your bubble, but the camp does not go away after No fall
• 1:28:54
  here. Once you go into the TV series,
• 1:28:56
  they embrace the camp still. It's still horror.
• 1:28:59
  They still have good horror moments, but the camp still
• 1:29:02
  there at like in my head I'm. Just hearing Bug grebble in that
• 1:29:05
  episode of King of the Hill where he's like, it's camp, it's
• 1:29:09
  smalls, darling. Yeah.
• 1:29:13
  You know, I mean, I guess it's just a preference thing.
• 1:29:17
  I get it if people don't like camp like.
• 1:29:21
  I camp is. One of those things that I can
• 1:29:22
  easily understand if you're not for it, because if you are
• 1:29:28
  liking objectively good stuff like an objectively good
• 1:29:32
  performance or an objectively good like film like it usually
• 1:29:35
  camp isn't a factor. Like it's usually the same thing
• 1:29:38
  though is that I think camp can. Be it like trying to call
• 1:29:42
  anything objectively good is just.
• 1:29:45
  I think that's such a tightrope to walk because then how do we
• 1:29:48
  define something that's objectively good?
• 1:29:50
  Because you could also say that camp can be done in a way that
• 1:29:53
  it's objectively good too. OK, I think a lot of this
• 1:29:55
  becomes subjective and I think it's perfectly valid if camp is
• 1:29:59
  not your thing, if you don't love it, that's fine.
• 1:30:01
  To me, it's at such a point where, like, I miss when there
• 1:30:04
  aren't hints of it in a franchise like Chucky, where it
• 1:30:07
  is so much embedded in its DNA. Yeah, you're you know what?
• 1:30:10
  You're right. Objectively good was a poor
• 1:30:13
  choice of words for me. I think I'm saying like the
• 1:30:16
  serious stuff. I take like a movie that will
• 1:30:19
  like take the premise itself seriously and doesn't ham
• 1:30:22
  anything up. And here's the thing.
• 1:30:24
  With this franchise, like I said, I do think it's very much
• 1:30:27
  embedded in its day and night, and I think it kind of has to be
• 1:30:29
  because after you do one or two of these movies, you kind of
• 1:30:33
  have to acknowledge that you were talking about a doll
• 1:30:36
  running around killing people. I think leaning into that is the
• 1:30:40
  right choice. That way the series doesn't
• 1:30:41
  start to feel stale. And I get how that could be off
• 1:30:44
  putting to some people. But part of me wonders if those
• 1:30:47
  same people, if it kept it straight laced, serious, pure
• 1:30:51
  horror, would they start to complain that it's just the same
• 1:30:54
  thing over and over again? Yeah, you know what?
• 1:30:57
  You're right. Because like it does add a
• 1:30:58
  little bit of freshness to the series here, because once you
• 1:31:02
  can start. Playing around and we talk about
• 1:31:03
  this all the time too. The the line between like horror
• 1:31:06
  and comedy are just two sides of the same coin.
• 1:31:09
  A lot of it is just about peaks and valleys setting like getting
• 1:31:13
  the right setup and then having the perfect release like and I
• 1:31:17
  think that's why so much of the horror that I like especially
• 1:31:21
  does inject quite a bit of camp to it.
• 1:31:24
  So I just, you know, it's very much A to each their own kind of
• 1:31:28
  thing, but yeah, if you're not a camp person, you're not gonna
• 1:31:32
  like a majority of the Child's Play series, and that's fine.
• 1:31:35
  Stick to the ones you like. They're there.
• 1:31:37
  Yeah, that's true. Keep watching them.
• 1:31:39
  Yeah. They they, that's.
• 1:31:40
  The good thing about the series is they do have the serious
• 1:31:43
  ones. If that's your bag.
• 1:31:44
  Yeah, the cast and. Crew, they're residuals.
• 1:31:48
  OK, so I guess that sums it up pretty easily.
• 1:31:51
  So let's go on to listener reviews.
• 1:31:54
  OK, we have one. It's from Michael E Howard who
• 1:31:58
  says is the perfect ending cliffhanger to a great
• 1:32:01
  franchise. I love the institution setting.
• 1:32:04
  This Chucky is dark and the twist of multiple Chucky dolls
• 1:32:07
  makes it all the more fun. The kills were literally to die
• 1:32:09
  for 9 out of 10. OK.
• 1:32:12
  I like that. I do.
• 1:32:14
  And you know what, hearing that, I'm thinking maybe part of the
• 1:32:17
  reason I love this so much is because it is so single
• 1:32:19
  location, but in a way that involves other people
• 1:32:22
  organically. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:32:25
  They. I will agree that this is a
• 1:32:27
  single location movie, even though we go a couple places.
• 1:32:30
  Yeah, but it is a single location setting.
• 1:32:33
  All right, Fickle Travis. Has deemed that you were like
• 1:32:36
  the Magic 8 ball of Is this a single location and we just
• 1:32:39
  shake you in whatever answer floats to the surface?
• 1:32:41
  I feel like I've got to. I gotta be the definitive call.
• 1:32:45
  Like if it's ever in question it says it's single.
• 1:32:48
  Location. Therefore it's single location.
• 1:32:51
  Here's the thing. I'm.
• 1:32:52
  Such a stickler about that shit. If I say yes, then it's gotta be
• 1:32:55
  yeah, you know, but yeah, I agree with all that stuff too.
• 1:33:01
  I think that the kills were amazing.
• 1:33:03
  This one, everything was really interesting.
• 1:33:05
  It's it's still keeping the series fresh with the multiple
• 1:33:08
  chuckies especially. That was a good way to like
• 1:33:10
  shake things up a tad bit to give a little bit more juice.
• 1:33:14
  And it and it definitely it. Pays off in the television show
• 1:33:17
  big time. Oh yeah, for sure, big time.
• 1:33:19
  Oh my God, the different chuckies you get in ATV show.
• 1:33:22
  Holy shit it's so fun. I don't even want.
• 1:33:25
  I want to talk about them but I don't want to spoil them for
• 1:33:27
  anybody out there who hasn't seen the show.
• 1:33:29
  Yes. Definitely people that have
• 1:33:32
  talked to us about the show in real life have heard our
• 1:33:34
  thoughts on the usage of some of those.
• 1:33:36
  Yeah, I can't not gush about one of them in particular.
• 1:33:40
  My favorite? I'll cut this, but that's
• 1:33:42
  Chucky. Oh no, my favorite.
• 1:33:44
  Is the one that I know. I know that's your favorite I.
• 1:33:47
  Love that one too. Yeah, it broke my heart when he.
• 1:33:52
  Yeah. So all that's being cut.
• 1:33:53
  I'm going to beep him. Just so I.
• 1:33:56
  Want you all to know that I'm. Talking about this, that we're
• 1:33:58
  having this conversation. Go check it out.
• 1:34:01
  The show got cancelled, unfortunately.
• 1:34:02
  So there's only three seasons. Yeah, and it's all on Peacock.
• 1:34:05
  Yeah, it's actually on shutter too, and it.
• 1:34:07
  Yeah, it's on. Shutter, it's on, I think.
• 1:34:10
  Sci-fi. Yeah, whatever you.
• 1:34:11
  Need to be able. To access the sci-fi streaming,
• 1:34:15
  I haven't I think that's one of those that you have to have like
• 1:34:18
  a cable login, which it's 2024 it's almost 2025.
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  Please get over yourselves and be a legitimate streaming
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  service or not. Okay so.
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  We're now done with the Chucky story progression on this show.
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  We'll come to the remake next month.
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  Get ready for. Some pipe and hot takes on that.
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  That's right. I know I'm in the minority on
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  this and I am OK with it. I will defend it.
• 1:34:44
  Yep, it's going down. In January you believe it all
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  right, but next week we have another thing coming up.
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  Terrifier 3. Which we already discussed at
• 1:34:55
  the beginning, but it's supposed to be streaming now, yes,
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  correct. No, I mean it's.
• 1:35:02
  Like for rental, but it's not on any streaming services.
• 1:35:05
  OK, so. You can rent it from Fandinko at
• 1:35:08
  home or Prime. We will be purchasing it
• 1:35:12
  obviously, so the release is on Tuesday.
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  The 17th if anybody's curious, but you can rent it and you can
• 1:35:19
  watch it now if you want to go ahead and do that Yep so we.
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  Will be covering that then and we're very, very excited about
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  it We hope everybody is being safe around the holidays.
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  Whatever your holiday plans are, Merry Christmas because this is
• 1:35:32
  the. Last episode before Christmas.
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  Yeah, Yeah. So.
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  I'm bad at names. So this is.
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  I like that. I'm starting to struggle to.
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  We got them all right. Did it?
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  Yes. Did we?
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  Yeah. OK.
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  If we didn't. I'm sorry, but I think we got,
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  we definitely haven't. OK, Yeah.
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